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Furness Show 8-19: Hugh Millen, Chris Crawford, Corbin Smith · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: haven't have said anything, but the Seahawks have signed Tromon Digs,
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  Speaker 2: He's got twenty interceptions and sixty three pass defence in
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  Speaker 2: is going to join us, by the way, coming up
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  Speaker 2: at twelve twenty today. Last night, the Brewers beat the
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  Speaker 2: Marriers twenty two to nothing, worst loss in team history.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. It's a Wednesday. Hello, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Travis Moger in the studio, helping me out today as
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  Speaker 2: we grind our way through this midweek hump day away
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  Speaker 2: we go. We're going to check in. We'll do some
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  Speaker 2: Seayawk conversation coming up here twelve twenty with Hugh Millon.
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  Speaker 2: A lot to get to it kind of. I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to talk to him on Monday's Front of Teas that
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  Speaker 2: talked to him last week, and I said, Hey, on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: we'll do a little preseason hardcore football. This is a
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  Speaker 2: preseason friendly zone. I'm like Softy and others who hate
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  Speaker 2: the preseason. Now, I don't love it. I'll be honest
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  Speaker 2: with you, but I know people want to talk about it,
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  Speaker 2: and I think no better guy to talk about it
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  Speaker 2: with than Humillen, And so I said, hey, Monday, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about We'll do a little hardcore preseason version.
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  Speaker 2: They said great, and then I forgot that I was
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  Speaker 2: off on Monday. So I said, hey, let's come on
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  Speaker 2: on Wednesday. We'll do that and kind of look ahead
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  Speaker 2: to the game coming up against tennessee what he wants
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  Speaker 2: to see. And then the problem is is that all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden tromon dig signs. So we've got that
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  Speaker 2: to talk about. We've got a lot to get to
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  Speaker 2: with Milan.
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  Speaker 3: We'll do that.
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  Speaker 2: In twelve twenty. Chris Crawford's going to join us in
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  Speaker 2: the one o'clock hour discuss what I'm gonna hit on
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  Speaker 2: in just a couple seconds, that's last night's absolute debacle
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  Speaker 2: at in Milwaukee with the Mariners. And then two o'clock
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  Speaker 2: Corbyn Smith will join us with the latest news from Seahawks,
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  Speaker 2: including Trevon Diggs. So all that's coming up today here
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  Speaker 2: on the radio show four nine, four or five one
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  Speaker 2: is to come a Dodge text line. You can also
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  Speaker 2: downloaded it free and speak into it thirty seconds or
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  Speaker 2: less your thoughts, comments, questions, and concerns. So last night,
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  Speaker 2: What's something else? Hard Knocks was great? The Mariner game
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  Speaker 2: was not. The good thing about the Mariner game is
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  Speaker 2: if you have HBO on demand, you can watch the stream.
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  Speaker 2: It drops at six o'clock. And about the time that
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  Speaker 2: the new version of Hard Knocks dropped, it was six
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  Speaker 2: nothing in favor of the brew crew, and soon thereafter
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  Speaker 2: it got a lot worse. I mean worse in a
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  Speaker 2: sense that it's laughable in so many ways. It's also,
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  Speaker 2: I think, and this is the part that is a
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  Speaker 2: little bit worrisome. I think we could look at it
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  Speaker 2: and see that there are some things with that game
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  Speaker 2: that should be red flags. And we'll get to that
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  Speaker 2: in a second. But what happened last night in Milwaukee historic,
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  Speaker 2: I mean just an absolutely historic game for all the
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  Speaker 2: wrong reasons. Twenty two runs by four Mariner pitchers. Now
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  Speaker 2: one of those was a position player, obviously, Luis Rivas.
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  Speaker 2: That tide a franchise record twenty two runs by Milwaukee
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  Speaker 2: that tiede a franchise record for them in a positive way. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't the largest shutout win by a team at
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  Speaker 2: home in baseball history. That appened to night in eighteen
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  Speaker 2: eighty five with the New York Giants baseball team, who
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  Speaker 2: beat the Buffalo Bison's baseball team twenty four to nothing.
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  Speaker 2: If we want to go to the modern era, twenty
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  Speaker 2: zero four Cleveland Indians and seventy five Pittsburgh Pirates, they
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  Speaker 2: beat the Yankees and Cubs respectively twenty two nothing, so
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  Speaker 2: it ties the modern era one. Twelve Brewers reached the
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  Speaker 2: play to total of fifty times. Only one player, their
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  Speaker 2: leadoff hitter Bryce Terrang didn't have a hit, but everyone
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  Speaker 2: got on base, twenty two hits, twenty two runs scored,
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  Speaker 2: Four players hit a home run. Luis Laura had his
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  Speaker 2: first home run of his career in that game. The
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  Speaker 2: wild thing about this five runs, so it's a one
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  Speaker 2: nothing game until the bottom of the fifth. The Brewer
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  Speaker 2: get five. And that's what we're gonna talk to Chris
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  Speaker 2: Crawford about coming up in the one o'clock hour. We'll
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  Speaker 2: get past the high jinks of twenty two runs, the
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  Speaker 2: pivotal fifth inning, the pivotal fifth inning, and Bryce Miller
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  Speaker 2: left in there to start to wear it with some
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  Speaker 2: left handers available, and I know Simpson was awful. It
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  Speaker 2: looked like they got the bullpen ready too late, which
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  Speaker 2: is mismanagement again by Dan Wilson, and they put a
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  Speaker 2: five spot up there. So it goes from on one
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  Speaker 2: nothing game with six to nothing game, you still had
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  Speaker 2: four innings to go. It felt like it's out of reach,
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  Speaker 2: and then it really became out of reach. Five more
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  Speaker 2: in the sixth, two more in the seventh, and then
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  Speaker 2: a nine, yes, a nine run eighth inning to turn
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  Speaker 2: a thirteen to one game or thirteen to nothing game
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  Speaker 2: into a blowout. That was laughable at best. There's two
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  Speaker 2: things from this game that to me, well, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: go three things that matter. One leadoff double, can't get
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  Speaker 2: him around to score in the first inning. When Brendan
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  Speaker 2: Donovan had that lead off double. There was the fact
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  Speaker 2: that you're Seattle. You mustard five total hits. Let's not
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  Speaker 2: forget that part of it. Take the twenty two aside.
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  Speaker 2: You mustard five hits. You got you ended an inning
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  Speaker 2: on a double steal, with the rookie getting thrown out
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  Speaker 2: at second base, but you had five hits. The part
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  Speaker 2: with Wilson, and again, I'll talk to Chris about this
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  Speaker 2: coming up in the one o'clock hour. Did Wilson have
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  Speaker 2: I mean he kind of wore it afterwards, but I mean, Wilson,
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  Speaker 2: if you're a Dan Wilson critic, last night was last night?
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  Speaker 2: Was your poster child for that? The Julio part, I've
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  Speaker 2: got mixed feelings on it. Part of me says, well whatever,
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  Speaker 2: he's just like, this thing's over. It was nineteen zero, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and he's like whatever, But that's you're a major league player.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I got the Little League World Series up
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  Speaker 2: here right now. You won't see that playing the Little
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  Speaker 2: League World Series. I guarantee you will not see that
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  Speaker 2: game in the Little League World Series. That kind of
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  Speaker 2: absolute brain dead lack of focus. I don't give a
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  Speaker 2: blank For those who are the Julio Rodriguez critics, and
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  Speaker 2: there are many, there's another no't put that on a
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  Speaker 2: poster because yes, the manager can't sit there and tell,
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  Speaker 2: you know, on every play, tell guys how many are outs.
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  Speaker 2: That's on the players, But that's also culture that you
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  Speaker 2: build that's inherent in your clubhouse, how you operate. Good
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  Speaker 2: teams don't have plays like that. It kind of summarizes
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  Speaker 2: exactly who and what you are this year. Now, with
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  Speaker 2: all of that said, I want to ask a very
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  Speaker 2: simple question, does it really matter? They could still win
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  Speaker 2: this damn series? Still four games back, and they could
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  Speaker 2: they there are four games back. They could win this series.
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  Speaker 2: They're within shouting distance. Yes, there's a lot of traffic
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  Speaker 2: between them and the wildcard spot wild Card three. They're
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  Speaker 2: not out of it. Sure feels like it, but they're not.
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  Speaker 2: That's the craziest part. I know people were saying that,
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  Speaker 2: some people online were saying that last night, and everyone's
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  Speaker 2: like losing their mind. That is a good thing about baseball.
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  Speaker 2: There's one hundred and sixty two. I can't be the
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  Speaker 2: guy that tells you that the games in April and
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  Speaker 2: may matter when others are saying, oh, it's early, it's early.
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  Speaker 2: Those games in April and may matter the same as
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  Speaker 2: games in August and September matter. And in baseball, this
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  Speaker 2: is not college football. This is not college basketball. There's
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  Speaker 2: no subjective nature. There's no committee that's going to decide
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  Speaker 2: if you're a playoff team or not. So whether you
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  Speaker 2: get beat one to nothing, two to one, five to one,
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  Speaker 2: five four, or twenty two to nothing, it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: outside of you should be embarrassed. Would it surprise you
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  Speaker 2: at all if you're a Mariner fan? Would it surprise
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  Speaker 2: you in the least bit as a Mariner fan if
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  Speaker 2: they came back and won the next two games? No,
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  Speaker 2: not at all. They had the most devastating loss of
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  Speaker 2: the season last Friday in Houston and they came back
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  Speaker 2: and won the next two. So would it surprise not
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  Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me, not in the least bit. But
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  Speaker 2: if you're one that thinks that it's time to make
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  Speaker 2: a managerial change, it's not the twenty two to nothing,
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  Speaker 2: it's how that happened. And Julio, honestly would be the
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  Speaker 2: final nail on the Dan Wilson coffin, because that comes
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  Speaker 2: from inside. That's internal, It's absolutely internal. Did you hear
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  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson postgame? Well, I heard him say it's on
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  Speaker 2: me and I only saw it in cuts because I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to do this. I really don't want to
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  Speaker 2: do this, Mowger, I really don't. I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: I was really weak that the Mariners TV broadcast did
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  Speaker 2: not carry Dan Wilson's postgame comments interesting, instead showing a
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  Speaker 2: Julio montage of him being a DJ. I thought that
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  Speaker 2: was really weak, really weak. And I'll tell you right
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  Speaker 2: now because I mentioned somebody last night he oh you
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  Speaker 2: you guys do the same thing with the krack and no, no,
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  Speaker 2: no no. And I'm telling you right now, if we did,
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  Speaker 2: Alison me, our producer Scott. The only time we don't
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  Speaker 2: run Lane or the coach is because he takes forever
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  Speaker 2: to get the hell out there. That's a whole different
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  Speaker 2: pone of contention, have it. It's like, Laye, you proved
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  Speaker 2: the show, you know? Yeah, Lane, can you come out
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  Speaker 2: in a timely fashion? We got thirty minutes. We gotta
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  Speaker 2: get you, We gotta get your content. Dan Wilson comes
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  Speaker 2: out in the timely fashion every game. There was no
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  Speaker 2: excuse not to play them. So right out here, we'll
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  Speaker 2: get more to this at one o'clock hour. Let's take
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  Speaker 2: a break, talk little humiling next.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well step away from the debacle of twenty
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  Speaker 2: two to nothing last night. Your thoughts four nine, four
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  Speaker 2: or five one are accepted, though, we'll do that at
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  Speaker 2: two thirty today. My friend Humilan joined us. I was
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  Speaker 2: mentioned Hugh earlier. I said last week when we had
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  Speaker 2: John previewing the preseason game, I said, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait. We'll do hardcore football on Monday, preseason style,
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  Speaker 2: because this is a preseason friendly show on like Softy,
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  Speaker 2: And then I forgot that I was off Monday, so
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to kind of get John recap a little
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  Speaker 2: bit last Friday or last Saturday, and then also look
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  Speaker 2: ahead to Tennessee. But all that, maybe we're going to
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  Speaker 2: take a step back for a second, because there has
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  Speaker 2: been news in the last forty five minutes or so.
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  Speaker 2: As is the Seahawks right now, actually as we speak
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  Speaker 2: or holding a press conference with Trevon Diggs. He is
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  Speaker 2: being introduced at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center after a
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  Speaker 2: short walk through today before the team heads to Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: So Diggs, Trevon Diggs does sign with Seattle Q they
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  Speaker 2: played sixth defensive six cornerbacks, I should say last Saturday
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  Speaker 2: against the Dallas Cowboys. In that preseason game. The only
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  Speaker 2: two that did not play were Witherspoon and Josh Job.
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  Speaker 2: Jamar John Charles is out for the season. He's on
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  Speaker 2: IR so he's one of those guys gone. My quick thought,
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  Speaker 2: this seems to be common sense, but I want yours
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  Speaker 2: and you go keeper on this. The dig signing, does
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  Speaker 2: that tell us that, hey, they're just not happy with
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  Speaker 2: what they've seen at that cornerback position.
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  Speaker 4: I would think so.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's certainly room for an interpretation that that
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  Speaker 5: they're happy with their corners, but they can't have enough.
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  Speaker 5: But my sense would be just kind of analyzing the team.
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  Speaker 5: I thought that going into the Super Bowl that that
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  Speaker 5: maybe the guy on the defense that would be most
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  Speaker 5: targeted would be Josh Job. And that's when they had
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  Speaker 5: Rek Wollan. So that now Reke Wollan departs, you don't
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  Speaker 5: replace him other than Julian Neil, excuse me, the third
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  Speaker 5: round cornerback, and you know he he wasn't playing. So
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  Speaker 5: so I think that there was a maybe a feeling
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  Speaker 5: that there's always some chance greater in zero that Julian
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  Speaker 5: Neil would have impressed as a third rounder, right, Like,
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  Speaker 5: wasn't helped me out the third rounder that made the
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  Speaker 5: Pro Bowl for us? He had he had the the
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  Speaker 5: brother with.
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  Speaker 2: The maxcp arm Oh yeah yeah Griffin, Shaquille Griffin, Yeah
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  Speaker 2: yeah yeah Griffin.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So and he was a third rounder and started as
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  Speaker 5: a rookie, so that that was on the table certainly
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  Speaker 5: that Julian Neil could come in and impress that way.
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  Speaker 5: But but I think that it also speaks to Neamiah Pritchett,
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  Speaker 5: and there was a feeling that he would step up
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  Speaker 5: after having been a fifth round pick in twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 5: and uh, you know, you know, I'm my gut tells
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  Speaker 5: me that hasn't emerged, maybe the degree to the degree
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  Speaker 5: they were hoping. So I don't know, Uh, it just
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  Speaker 5: everything that's happening with these corners, it's not a good
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  Speaker 5: sign in my opinion, right because you know, I mean
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  Speaker 5: what Trayvon Diggs was. Couldn't have you assigned him, wasn't
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  Speaker 5: he on the street?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I think the only thing I was talking a great
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  Speaker 2: bill about that because I thought the same thing. The
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  Speaker 2: only thing I guess I would say that maybe with Diggs,
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  Speaker 2: a guy that's been around, he's got a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a resume. He might have been one of those
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  Speaker 2: veterans that was waiting for the exact spots that he
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  Speaker 2: wanted to go. Maybe he had two or three teams,
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  Speaker 2: maybe hoping one of them would call. And I don't know, Hugh,
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  Speaker 2: it's a training camp. I mean, like Aaron Aaron Donald's
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  Speaker 2: gonna sign. Now, he's not the same player as Aaron Donald.
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  Speaker 2: I get that, But Aaron Donald's gonna probably sign with
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  Speaker 2: the Rams. He ain't gonna He's not doing it during
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  Speaker 2: the heat of training camp, right, Like you just kind
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  Speaker 2: of wait until the time is right. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that's the only thing because I thought the same
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  Speaker 2: thing I asked Greg that I was talking to him
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  Speaker 2: about a minute ago, like why wouldn't the guys signed,
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  Speaker 2: Like every team needs cornerbacks, right, it's, you know, arguably
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  Speaker 2: one of the most important positions on the field. So
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  Speaker 2: it is odd in that regard. But maybe he was
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  Speaker 2: just waiting for the right situation.
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  Speaker 5: Well maybe, I mean, if he felt he had that leverage.
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  Speaker 5: We'll know when when the contract details come out. Yeah, Well,
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  Speaker 5: you know it's is it more likely to be that
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  Speaker 5: that he he didn't you know, that that he didn't
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  Speaker 5: have great options, or is it more likely to be
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  Speaker 5: that he had a ton of great options and he
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  Speaker 5: just was gonna leverage and sit out.
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  Speaker 7: You know what, most football players are in a training
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  Speaker 7: camp right now, and Aaron Donald.
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  Speaker 5: Is a first ballot Hall of Fimmer arguably, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you can make a case the greatest defensive tackle of
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  Speaker 5: all time. There'd be other guys in that discussion. But
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  Speaker 5: but you know him at thirty five or thirty Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: thirty five years old and having sat out a couple
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  Speaker 5: of years. Very unique situation there. I don't I don't
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  Speaker 5: know that that applies much. I think I think it's
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  Speaker 5: more likely that Diggs, I don't know, he's just a
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  Speaker 5: what's his agency? He's twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's young man, and it's that's odd. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm ignorant, you know what. I had heard
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  Speaker 5: somebody say he hadn't played in a few years, so
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't gonna look at any tape because I thought, well,
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  Speaker 5: what if he hasn't started in a few years. He
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  Speaker 5: played for Green Bay last year at the end of Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but you know what he did start, Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 5: he started for the Cowboy has started six games for
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  Speaker 5: the Cowboys and in a game for the Packers. So
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  Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta get on the tape. But look
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  Speaker 5: back to the corners of the stuff that we can
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  Speaker 5: speak on more of a solid ground from. I think
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  Speaker 5: it's a concern.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let me ask you about let me ask
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  Speaker 2: you about the Mike McDonald defense. Because we do hardcore here,
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  Speaker 2: so let me let me ask you this that position.
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  Speaker 2: Because one of the things that we've seen with with football,
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  Speaker 2: the evolution over the years. I thought it was an
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  Speaker 2: interesting thing last night, for example, people watching Hard Knocks
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  Speaker 2: and they show the defensive line room and in that
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  Speaker 2: defensive line are all the edge rushers too, right, but
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: they're all called outside linebackers. Terminology is a different thing, right,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Like in terms of who is what when we talk
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: about cornerbacks in the Seahawks Mike McDonald's system. Now you've
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: got Emon Warri who's listed as a safety, but you
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: and I have talked about he's more of what a
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: sam linebacker, right How they play him and they play
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: so much Nick, maybe play some dime. Let's talk about
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: just how important the true cornerback CB is in the
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Mike mcdonald' system, how he's utilized and frankly, Hugh, I'll
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: ask you this. This may sound goofy. How many do
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: they need? Because we know Witherspoon and Job, but what
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: else do they need in terms of what they want
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: to do with all the safeties they have Bud Clark,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: they want to get him on the field. They're talking
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: about geting Tyree night and field more. What do they
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: want to do?
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Do you think, well, we don't have to make this
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: complicated that a cornerback in a Mike McDonald's system has
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: the same responsibilities at its root. Now there's details, there's
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: a lot of adjustments, but as most coverages, when the
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: corner lines up, I'll just say, from a quarterback perspective,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: we say who if our widest guy, if our number
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: one and number one is the widest guy close to
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: the sideline, our number one receiver, if he runs a
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: go route, who's responsible? Just ask yourself that, because every
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: coverage will break down based on that answer. If the
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: corner is the answer, then there's a burden on that
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: corner because he has to stop the go route first,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: and then any I'll just throw him into a category
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: of stop routes. Could be a hitch, could be a hook,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: could be a comeback, even a speed out depending on
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: the split. Anything where you don't go a go route
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: and the cornerback is expected to drive on the football.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: There's a burden there. That's like, you know, it'd be
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: like taking away the pitcher, you know, a changeup or
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: an off speed pitch from a fastball. If there's only
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: the fastball, then then you know it wouldn't be hard
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: to hit. Well, if if everybody only ran a go route,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: then you could cover a go route, just turn and run.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: But the problem if you don't have safety help is
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: you've got to say, well, I got to defend the
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: go route first, but I got this whole you know,
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: library of routes that stop in front of me.
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: I still I can't.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: I can't be inept on those. I have to cover
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: those as well. So so then you say the other
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: category of coverages is where the where you say this, no,
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: if if the widest receiver, if the number one receiver
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: runs a go route, the safety hasn't. Now that's an
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: entirely different I don't even say burden. It's just an
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: assignment for the corner. He's got to redirect make sure
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: that that the wide receivers and does not have free
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: access into the secondary just running like a track guy
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: out out of a track block. You want to redirect
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: him and then now you hand him over to the safety. Well,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: that's that's a form of of of zone double covers.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: That that in fact, that is the most common way
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: the wide receivers are double covered. Exactly what I just said.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: And so, uh so where are the Seahawks and so
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: the only the only defense that you'd say, the corners,
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: uh you know, get get to take the night off
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: is when you play cover two. Cover two is the
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: corner rolls up on both sides. Hear me out on
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: that both sides, the corner jams, he's in the flat.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: He's what the term is, since we're in hardcourt's called
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: cloud coverage. Cloud just corner begins the cloud begins with
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: a sea. That's why it's called cloud. That's back in
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: the days with a sky coverage, the safety begins with
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: an S. So he had sky and cloud. So but
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: cloud is ubiquitous a football term. You could say that
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: in any high school coach, convention, college Coaching Convention Pro
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: football coaching, cloud is a ubiquitous term just means corners
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: in the flat and a safety's over the top. Cover
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: two is the defense that does that to both sides.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: The Seahawks are twenty third out in the league in
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: terms of their propensity to run cover two. Now, the
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Seahawks are number one in what's called cover six, and
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: cover six is cover two to one half. So what
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: did I I was just described and the easy way
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: on for a corner is if you play cover two,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: well guess what you play Cover six. One of those
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: corners is getting the benefit of the safety over the top,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: and Seattle's number one in the NFL in cover six.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: In fact, there's only one other coverage where the Sea
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Arcs are in the top half and and and that
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: is where did that burger go? I take it back,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: There isn't any there. If I'm filtering all other coverages,
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: they are in the bottom half of the league.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, at quarters they're seventeenth, and cover three they're twenty fourth,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: so yeah, everything, but they're number one in cover six.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: So they play an array of coverages. But but the
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: one cover let me just condense this, Cover six is
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: one corner gets the help over the top.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: Easy to play. You and I could play it. Just
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: jam the guy, redirect him.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Now, now that's obviously a big exaggeration, but not as
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: much as an exaggeration as you think. You and I
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: could actually go play one play and we and the
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Seahawks would not give up a touchdown because all we
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: do is do our best to try and jam the receiver.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: We wouldn't do a very good job. But but then
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: there would be the safety's responsibility.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: Now, if they ran a screen to our side and
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: here comes the lineman, Uh, that's a whole nother discussion.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: So like, neither of us want that big offensive tackle
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: coming out to kick us out. But but but I digress. So,
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: but on the opposite side of Cover six, the corner
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: does have the go route to the back of the
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: end zone. He has help to the inside on on
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: on dagger routes. Now there's I'm sitting here in live
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: radio trying to say how much do I I want
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: to explain that the safety on the other side, opposite
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: side of the cloud, he reads the vertical release of
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: number two, who's number two counting outside end? If number
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: two the slot receiver or the tight end goes vertical
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: beyond five yards. Now the safety takes him. Now the
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: corner on the other side is it away from the cloud?
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: He has man and man so he is right to
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: get beat by a post so. So, So passing game construction,
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: you want to do what to decide to cover six?
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: You want to run the slot receiver at the safety,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: which eats him up. That doesn't allow him to rob
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: any en routes because now he's got to cover the safety.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: And then the corner has the post so and the
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: go route and out routes and what have you. So
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: there's more of a burden on the corner opposite.
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: Of the cloud.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: A lot of football terms going out there.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: But but hopefully I got your attention when I said
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks are number one in the NFL in the
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: use of that coverage.
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: Correct.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: So so okay, how does this pertain that what Mike
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: McDonald can do if he says, hey, I don't trust
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: one of my corn owners, he can't. He doesn't want
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: to do this. What I'm about to say is that
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: doesn't put him in any comfortable zone at all. But
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: in a in a pinch, uh yeah, uh, he can
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: he can say, hey, we're just we're gonna we can
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: we can, Uh, we can roll cover six to two
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: a week cornerback. Now there there's time. There's some teams,
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: including the Seahawks, you want to roll to the boundary receiver,
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: the X receiver, the single side receiver to help and
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: then and then you play off coverage to the field.
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Sometimes the Seahawks will roll to the trips, roll to
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: the field and leave the the corner on the X
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: on an island.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: You know what's called meg coverage in their terminology. Man
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: everywhere he goes, you know, just solo the backside, you know, roll,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: roll on the trips, roll to the field, get a
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: lot of bodies over there, and then you know, you know,
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: pray to hell that that on the backside you can.
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: You can.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: You can play solo coverage with the running back on
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: the weak side and the X receiver. So so so
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: there there there's this is all the things that Mike
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: McDonald would be uh thinking through, like, Okay, if do
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: I have a cornerback deficiency, how am I going to
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: play this?
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: So?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: And the deficiency is it feels like you almost everybody's
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: not named Devin Witherspoon to be honest with you, Yeah right.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yeah, and Witherspoon, you know he played less
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: snaps in the slot than he had at any year,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: so that they were trying to keep him more outside, uh,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: in the dime packages. That that's where uh, Emon Worry
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: who who is as you said that the nickel Sam
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: in there in there what they would call their base,
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: which which the league would call nickel.
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: Right, just think of this.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: We talked all damn year that hey, Nick Am and
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Worry had it was either seven or eight deep half
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: snaps like in the back half. Right, and so he's
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: not playing safety, he's playing freaking linebacker, right and uh.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: And then finally before the forty nine er playoff game,
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: Mike McDonald went on record, he says, you know, really,
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: all we have is just a really crazy athletics Sam linebacker.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Because because it because it would love it. Okada would
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: be on the field in playing in the deeper in
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: the secondary as safeties Sam Cotta Okada when they weren't healthy, Ian,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: you're right, and Nakada played a ton. But but when
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: they were healthy, uh, finally didn't Yeah, you had you
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: had Kobean and Julian and the as the back half guys.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: You had Josh Jobinrique Woolen as the outside corners. And
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: then your slot you're what what's called your apex defenders,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: your overhang defenders, uh, your nickeled and dime Uh. They
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: call it the star. There's a lot of terminology for
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the for those positions. But but Emon Worry is normally
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: the nickel Sam also called the star. And and and
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: he he would be to the field side as a
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: general rule in nickel when they went dime. Then Witherspoon
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: he came in and he would have the field side.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Even Worry goes into the boundaries. Less space to cover.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: You give, you give as a general rule in these
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: zone coverages, you give Witherspoon more ground to cover. And
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, as a quarterback, you're looking like,
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: wait a minute, look at those freaks as the overhang
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: They're they're playing a two high safety structure. That's a
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: lot of burden on those outside the linebacker slash nickel
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: slash dime guys over the slot, they got to cover
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: a lot of ground. Hey, we can work the flats
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: and what have you. And then all of a sudden,
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: You see the turbo button that each of those athletes have,
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: and you go, wait a minute. All the space I
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: thought I had I don't have because they reduce space
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: so quickly because of the turbo buttons that they have.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: They're beautiful athletes, they're great competitors, they're smart, they're well coached,
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: and they're freaking problem.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: For a quarterback. Well Diggs comes in, We'll see what
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: happens with Arnold. That's still up in the air. But
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: when we come back, I got one more say with you.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Here's what I want to do again. This is a
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: preseason friendly zone here. I want Hugh Millen to tell
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: us what he's laying eyes on, specifically Sunday night, five
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: o'clock national broadcast on Fox TV for preseason game number two.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you maybe to even give me
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: a little Jalen Milroll conversation with that if we could.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: We'll do that next with Hugh mill in Hardcore Football
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: preseason edition coming up next.
• 29:35
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• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Hardcore Football, Humillon all right, Hugh Sunday, five o'clock, Fox TV,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: National TV, Tennessee, Seattle preseason Game number two. What's Hugh
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Millon watching.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Well, there's a very cool stat about Mike McDonald that
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go back to a year ago. Between the
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: Raider game, which was preseason game, in preseason game number two,
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: and in the Raider game again last summer, the Raider
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks were pretty much carving up the Seahawks backup defenders
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: and they on completions, Raider quarterbacks had air yards a
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: total of two hundred and thirty two, which we discussed
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: at the time, like, hey, that's a lot. In fact,
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks on that night only at one hundred and sixteen.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Since that the beginning of the preseason in twenty twenty
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: five and including the forty nine games thus far of
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: this year, there's been one hundred and thirty two games
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: in preseason, counting both summers. That two hundred and thirty
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: two yards was the most air yards of all. Sorry,
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: I said one hundred and thirty offense. There's been sixty
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: six games. Sorry, I'm gonna go sixty six games, which
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: means there's one hundred and thirty two offense offenses to
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: evaluate right, and defenses. That makes sense, I'm sorry, Yeah,
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: it sounds confusing, But of the one hundred and thirty two,
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: the worst defense and the best offense was the Raiders
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: two hundred and thirty two air yards on completed passes.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: The very next week against the Chiefs with the Andy
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Reid the genius and Gardner Minshew, a pretty damn highly
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: regarded backup. They the Chiefs had for the entire game
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: on completions fifteen yards. They went from thirty two thirty
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: two to fifteen. So if you take those again, I'm sorry,
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: sixty six games, which means one hundred and thirty two
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: offenses and defenses were evaluating. The very worst was the
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Seahawks against the Raiders, and the very best of them
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: was the Seahawks.
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: Against the Chiefs.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: That happened in one week, the same guys, and so
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: that's his ability, not just with the starters. That's his
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: ability to identify problems with his defense and fix them.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: And so there's not much to fix on the defense.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Slant routes that if you play the two high structures,
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: you're going to see a lot of what's called what
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Mike Homeworan would call lion, which is two slants. I've
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: been on teams what we call it diesel, which is
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: is a word conjunction with double slant. Get it the
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: diesel double slant yep. And and so they were giving
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: up a lot of diesels the other night, not a lot,
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: but one for nine yards, one for ten yards, one
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: for eleven yards, another one they got a defensive holding,
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: got an automatic first down. So I think that you're
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: gonna see a better job on against those slant routes.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: I'm more looking at the offense, Ian, and I you know,
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: to me, I'm just kind of withholding judgment because I
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: think it's the sensible position to be. Regarding Brian Florey.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: The number one thing that I do want to say
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: we the number one thing I like about Brian Florey
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: is Mike McDonald chosen. That is the thing that makes
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: me feel the best. But I'm still gonna look at
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: the tape and and I can't say enough. I want
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: you to tell me the rules right now, Ian, forness,
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: you tell me what's the rules for evaluating preseason game
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: number one? Because if you tell me the rules are
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: it doesn't matter, then I'll withhold my comments. If you're saying, hey,
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: that's that's let's let's let's try and evaluate it the
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: way a team would, I'll give you a different answer.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: So you tell me, because I don't want to be
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: accused of Oh, Millen, are you forgetting that was preseason
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: game number one?
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: No, I'm very well aware of it was.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: But do you want do you want my thoughts on
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: it from a team perspective or just a fan saying
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: it's only preseason game number No?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: No, I think the rule is this. I think I
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: want your opinion because I'll just do this. In Game
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: one against Dallas is year they played all the offense
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: where the twos effectively the two offensive line, number two
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: quarterback with Drew Locke, and I'll use this. You want
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: to bring up the Chiefs game, I'll do this last
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: year in the Chiefs game Game two, in the preseason
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: game one for Clint Kubiak as the new Seahawks offensive coordinator,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: he was one and done after Ryan Grubb. Right, they
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: came out and they had their ones play an offensive series.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold went four for four, So I think The
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: rule is that whether it's the ones or the twos,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I think you can evaluate in a preseason game at
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: least what you see in terms of play calling, tempo
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: and all those things.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Well, let me let me let me tell you about
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: what they did against the Chiefs on offense. There's a
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: stat it's not my stat. What it's called play success.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: When you go into the NFL stat portal, there's play
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: success for the needed yards on first down, so you
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: got to get you know, four yards on the yards,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: sixty of the needed yards on second down, and all
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: of the needed yards on third or fourth down.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: The NFL average for success this I did this calculation
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: for the prior year, which was twenty twenty four, because
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: I was I was calculating this for the chief preseason game,
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: preseason game number two, the NFL average for success was
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: forty seven point four percent.
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: The Seahawks in the first quarter against the Chiefs. Of
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: their plays, they went seventeen for seventeen on successful plays,
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: one hundred percent success rate. Okay, And now it turns
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: out the first play of the second quarter was unsuccessful.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: But let me go back to the first quarter. They
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: were seventeen of seventeen. If you, if you take now,
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: forty seven point four percent is a successful play. I said,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: It's basically like flipping a coin. But if you if
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: you just run it out mathematically using the forty seven
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: point four percent, assuming that the percentage the odds of
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: seventeen straight successful play is one in three hundred and
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: thirty three hundred nineteen thousand and seventy three. Given the
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: average number plays for UH for the season for each
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: team is one thousand and fifty seven. Given that average
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: and SUE, and assuming the average success rate of forty
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: seven point four percent, a team would expect to see
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: seventeen straight successful plays exactly once out of three hundred
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: and seven years.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: Okay, that's the That is the efficiency and and and
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: the math nerds out there are understanding this. You know
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: that that you know, getting a coin coin to flip
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: seventeen times, you know, uh, the same and then when
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: the coin is weighted against you like less than fifty percent.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: So at any event, uh what so what does all
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: that mean? Let's set the math geek stuff aside. What
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: they did in the first quarter UH against the Chiefs
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: was literally you could say historic, not that anybody cares
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: was the preseason. But let's go to Brian Floory. There's
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: some things because I asked you to tell me the rules,
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: and I'm just looking at I say, what does the
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: offensive tape look like? I can I'm gonna make a
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: defensible statement.
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: The offensive.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: Tape from Saturday Night against the Cowboys look very poor,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: very sloppy, no precision, no details, things that would affect
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: with regarding Brian Floory. What I see the quarterback mill
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: Roll coming out on a boot. He's got an over
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: route coming from the backside. That's how you structure it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: You got a down flat. That's usually, but he's usually
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: the guy that's trailing the play. You need a guy
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: in the flat. There's no there's nobody in the flat.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know if a player busted, but looking at
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: the formation, it doesn't seem that way. So that that's
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: a poorly constructed play on what's called a handkrout Mike Homegrin,
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: you get just got two hooks on the outside, a
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: guy sitting over the middle. There's more detail, but I'm
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: not going to get into it. Hey, there's a window
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: in there. We didn't come and wrap around that against
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: that coverage. Uh, we got to get that window. The
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Uh the Bobo on a deep hook, big miscommunication. Well,
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: you got Cody White, He's coming on his zone on
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: a shallow cross. He should be at about six yards.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: He's at nine yards. He's jogging so he doesn't influence
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: the defender.
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Then Uh, Drew Locke looks like he you know, he
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: and and Bobo are not on the same page. Well,
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: we're not getting the proper spacing and stretch on the
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: defense on the three route.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: On oki route actually Milro's best play, we got, uh
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: outside foot forward. Well, that makes a sixth step route
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: a seventh step route, which is fine. But I went
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: and I looked at the uh all the plays last
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: year to you know, say like, hey, this has always
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: been a inside leg forward, a six step you know,
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: third inside step. We're doing speed out. That's the way
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: that times out with the quarterbacks footwork and h and
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Milroe took a hitch. We shouldn't do that on the
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: on the on the three route. Why is the outside
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: leg Ford? Well, I went back and looked at a
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: basically ninety five percent. I'm not gonna list you the
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: teams like I can name you fifteen teams watching Joe
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Burrow throw those three cuts, watching uh, Justin Herbert throw
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: those three cuts, watching Pat Mahomes. I could go on
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: and on down the list.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: And and these are beautiful six step timings inside leg ford.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: It times up with the feet and and it just
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: looks like a clinic. And then I'm like, why are
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: we putting the outside leg ford?
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: So so?
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: And then the final thing, final thing that I'll mention
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: fourth down, Uh, fourth down down by the goal line. Yep,
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: you've got your plays and you know they had hardened
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: this This what TJ Harden aj Harden who just got
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: cut a couple of days A. Yeah, you know, so
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: they they called him on an option route and I'm
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: just thinking, he knows, he had to know, he had
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: to know that that that that's not how who you
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: want to feature in there, because the route was as
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: bad as you could be.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: So so at an event all that let me let
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: me let me wrap up, because I think I'm tell
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: me if I'm right here when we talk on Monday,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: hardcore football offense, Oh at the offense, oh, play construction
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: and execution. You used the word sloppy. I'm at the
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: top of the hour. This is Luckily no one's here
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: today so it doesn't matter. But anyway, I gotta go,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: I gotta go. Let me just say this on Monday, sloppy,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Let's see if they clean that up. And I really
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: want to get into it hardcore ways on Monday about
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: just the play the play structure. You just said that's
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: a that's an alarming thing to me. So let's talk
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: about that Monday. You're on with You're on with Softy
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: later today. At that point, you'll have watched I'm sure
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: some Trroan Diggs video and and probably want to have
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: something to say about the twenty two to nothing game.
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: All right, indeed, and we've already blow the clock.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: Let me just say this, yeah that you know, I
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: was on a Cowboy team that had just won the
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl a few months before, and we lost the
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: opening preseason game and Jimmy Johnson's neck was as red
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: as a freaking apple and he was so pissed and
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: the and the the the training, the intensity ramp so far.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: So so I'm just going by, like, hey, it matters,
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: you want to be a suit and by the way,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: we repeated a super Bowl champs, like you want to
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: be a Super Bowl champ. The first preseason game has
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: got a matter and because you scored seven points and
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: look sloppy doing it. I want to see Mike McDonald
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: that that that marvelous that that that historic turnaround.
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: That that he had.
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: Uh, you know we need to see that from the offense.
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: I love it.
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, you'll be on today later on with with Dave Softy,
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  Speaker 2: Headlines headlines by to My Frostbury Corsine Chu Hill MS
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  Speaker 2: losing twenty two to nothing last night. More on that
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: in a second DIGS reportly signing a deal with the Seahawks.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Twenty seven year old worked out for them earlier this
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: week a cornerback, so see what happens there. Alvin Kamara
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: is going to be out for a while with the
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: spring MCL Sounders back at it tonight against Austin FC
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: and MLS play Little League World Series. No score Tacoma. Well,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: the Washington representative, the Northwest representative of the League World Series,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: but they're from Tacoma, the Tacoma team taking out a
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: team from Phoenix City, Alabama. No score through four innings.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Let's get to our number two, all right, Chris Crover's
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: gonna judge about ten minutes time. We'll talk about last
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: night stebacle, speaking of which, this is good stuff. This
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: is why you have sports.
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: You never know.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Joe Shean, who kept telling us all along road Brian
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Wu was not a thing. Yesterday we had Joe on road.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Brian Wu was not a thing. Last two stars Road,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Brian Wu has been good, right, been really good. Yeah,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: here's Joe yesterday talking and pre viewing yesterday's first matchup
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: between the Brewers and the Mariners.
• 43:04
  Speaker 10: Christian Yellich hasn't hit. William Contreras hasn't hit. They have
• 43:07
  Speaker 10: real problems scoring runs. And if you remember last year
• 43:09
  Speaker 10: that that's what knocked them out in the postseason. They
• 43:11
  Speaker 10: got good pitching against the Dodgers and just could not score.
• 43:15
  Speaker 10: I think you're going to get some low scoring games
• 43:17
  Speaker 10: this week. They're going to keep the runs off the board.
• 43:19
  Speaker 10: They're a very strong defensive team, but they're just some
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: of the score. Like if you told me that there
• 43:24
  Speaker 10: were seventeen runs total in these three games, I might
• 43:26
  Speaker 10: take the under.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Oops, that's funny. I would have agreed.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Like last night's game, I would have if I would
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: have been at Stokeclalma Casino, SnO Casino dot Com, I
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent would have gone for the ender and
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I would have felt pretty good about it. Through four
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: and a half innings. Yeah, right, won nothing game, and
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: then what happened? Twenty one more runs were scored. I
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: asked the question earlier, four nine four or five to one,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: that is to come a dodge Tex line. Four nine
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: four or five one. You can chime in. I think
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: these would have surprize you at all? No, the answer
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: is no, But it would have surprised you at all
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: if this team reels off two wins the next two days,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: not at all. No, wouldn't surprise me. Maybe, would you you, Trav? No,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: not really, I'm not sure that that's gonna happen. I
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: just don't think there's anything such momentum in baseball. Seems
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: to be a very from a team standpoint, just seems
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: to be a nothing burger. Like that game on Friday
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: last week. They should have come out and just been
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: awful the next two days and they came up with
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: two big wins, including a big bounce back on Saturday,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: and then eked one out on Sunday against the Astros
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: last night. Are you able to flush it? Are you
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: able just to flush it and move on? You've got
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert on the mountain. You probably couldn't ask for
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: anything better than that right to have them to have
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert on the mountain. So you got Logan on
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the mound, and away you go. We'll see, but I
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: kind of have a good feeling that they're gonna crank
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: it up a little bit tonight against the Dustin May
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: and the Brewers. The thing that's the perception is this
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: The perception for this team though across the country is
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: not good. And you know, I was listening earlier today
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: to Greg and a Jess. I didn't get a chance
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: to hear the Morning show, but I was listened to
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Greg and Jests earlier, and I do feel as if
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: people have flat out just given up. And I'm not
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: saying everybody, but I think a lot of people have
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: just kind of given up totally. And I understand the
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: frustration for sure. I completely I get that. I totally
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: get that. But when you look and you see what
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: the standings look like and then understand what their schedule
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: looks like in September, I don't know how you can
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: lose all hope. Now at fifty nine and sixty seven
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: in eight games under five hundred, it looks daunting. But
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: they're three out of the wildcard, they're four out of
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: first place. They're not that far away. Now, there's a
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: lot of traffic in the wildcard. Now you can make
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: the argument that what makes you believe in any way,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: shape or form, they're gonna get on a heater and
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: get going nothing. But at the same time, I just
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think writing them off right now
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: is a little bit is a little bit premature. Four nine,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: four to five one on the coming Dog text and
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I'll also get your talkbacks as well. We'll do that
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: coming up at two point thirty today. Corbyn Smith's going
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: to join us. By the way at two. I got
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: a little audio to play for him. Julian Love taking
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: a shot at him. He's gonna love that. Yeah, he
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: took a shot at him yesterday, which is fun stuff.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: But we'll talk about Trevon Diggs also what he's looking
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: for in preseason game number two against the Tennessee Titans.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: We'll do that it coming up at two o'clock today
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: when we come back, our man Chris Kraft will go
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: one half, one half of the Molly Whoppers. Well at
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Crawford rail on it as well. How bad was twenty
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: two to nothing in terms of the bigger picture. That's
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: one of the things I want to ask Chris. We'll
• 46:49
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• 46:53
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• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Chris Strawford joined us right now, one half of the
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Molly Whoppers. I just I after yesterday we were texting.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: We have a thread with all the Duke, all our
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: guys on it and Chris, Nate, Me, Andrews. For some reason,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Benton's on it. I don't know why. We gotta to
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: revisit that at some point, but anyway, so we're going
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: through that whole process. We're laughing. I was like, hey, man,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: like certain games deserve a little bit more attention and
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't need more attention. Maybe it does. Maybe
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: there's some bigger issues that we can kind of dive
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: into right now. But I didn't want to wait till
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Monday to get one of one of the two guys
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: on Chris's is kind enough to jump on. First of all,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: thanks for filling in on Monday. Appreciate that. Great job,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: as always is what I hear. So I do appreciate that.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: But let's let's just get to last night and and
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: I'll just blanket open book. Here we go. Your thoughts
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: on twenty two nothing?
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: Huh m hmm. It is uh boy, oh boy. And
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: you know it's funny because, uh, you know, Travis calls
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: me and asks how I'm doing, and I said, I'm
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: good man, how are you? And he's like, oh are you?
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: And you know what, now that I think about it,
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: maybe I'm not. Maybe I'm not okay, because you know,
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: it's so funny. I recorded my OI when it was
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: eleven nothing because it was like, what's the point, what's
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: the point of waiting for this thing?
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I saw that that's unbelievable, by the way, like that's
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: that's crazy.
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: It's so nuts that that was just half as crappy
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: as it was going to be. And you know it's
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: funny because the last time I hosted before Monday and
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: Thank you again, it was it's always an honor to
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: host your show. I won't even make any lazy jokes
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: because it's just, uh, we don't have time for it,
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: but it's we. We spent a whole segment talking about
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: why I don't understand why people care so much about
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: what other people think about my favorite teams, like the Seahawks.
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: I don't get it why everyone gets so upset about
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: why that everyone cares about what they think about the Rams.
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: I just want to see how my Seahawks do, and
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: come what may, the Seahawks will do what they're going
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: to do. Yesterday was different, and I felt embarrassed. I
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: felt actual embarrassment being a Seattle Mariner fan, and I
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: just stayed away from everything sports because I didn't want
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: to hear about how embarrassing the Seattle Mariners were. I
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: did not want to watch the replay of Julio throwing
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: the ball further than any Mariner hit a baseball. I
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: did not want to watch a replay of Leo Rivas
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: throw in twenty seven miles per hour. Did not want
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: to watch a replay, reminding me that this game would
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: have been somewhat close at some point if Dan Wilson
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: just makes a right decision pulled Bryce Miller for one
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: of two left handed hitchers that are ready to go
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: when you're only down three to nothing. I didn't want
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: to hear it because I was embarrassed to be a
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: Seattle Mariner fan. And it's it's a really sad feeling
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: to be embarrassed about the team that you love.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I want and there's a lot to impact there, and
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: that's why I wanted to do this today. So let's
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: let's just kind of go through it, and we'll just
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: go in chronological order. We'll go in chronological order, because
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: you know, I was talking when I was mentioned this
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: to Travis in the first segment today. You know, I'm
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: watching the game. It's it's a one nothing game, and
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: which was again even the one nothing was sketchy right
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: with Jake Bowers, like like that's the fact baseball needs
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: to change something Like stuff that's not reviewable makes no sense, right,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Like for people who miss that and I in the
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: grand scheme, it seems people will say it didn't matter.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: That the one nothing, it didn't matter. Maybe I'm I'm
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: always hesitanting Chris in sports to say a play early
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter because of what the finality of a final
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: score looks like. Because Seattle also had traffic later on
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: in the third inning, right, I believe it was trailing
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: won nothing. They tried that or maybe the fourth thing,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: and they tried the double steel thinking that, you know, hey,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: like we're gonna we need a run or two here,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: they tried double maybe if a zero zero they don't
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: try double steal and Roden doesn't get thrown out at second, right,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: So I don't I don't want to put that like
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: it meant nothing in there just because of the final score.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Baseball's got to figure some stuff out. You want to
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: you want to challenge microscopic strike calls. I think at
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: play like that, that is I mean, he knocked the
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: ball out of his glove. You're not allowed to do that,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: as simple as that, right and no, right.
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, one thousand percent. And that is what pisces me
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: off too. Is not just the microscopic balls and strikes
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: I'm more okay with. Then the microscopic did his hand
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: over slide second base for one second while his tiny
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: ass pinky fell off off the bag. You can challenge that,
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: you can't challenge a guy literally knocking the baseball out
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: of big Dumper's glove. By the way, him getting charged
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: in air because of that is just so insane. And
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: also shame on Mariners TV for not giving us better
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: replays of that play, showing the play that was not
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: the important part of the guy diving back to home play.
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: We saw that that was clearly safe. I got like
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: one or two replays at most of him. Actually, it
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: reminded me of do you remember when Alex Rodriguez did
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: that in the playoffs and knocked the ball out in
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: the guy's hands. It was the exact same fricking play. Yes,
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: different different level of competition postseason compared to but it's
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: the same play that the guy literally just knocked the
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: ball out of big Dumper's glove. And you know, who
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: knows what happened. Who knows what happens with a few
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: of these things, And ultimately it doesn't hide the embarrassment.
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: But it's also a embarrassing that baseball doesn't have rules.
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: And anybody who's listening right now is gonna be like,
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: how are you just talking about this one play? But
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: all of it matters. It adds to the embarrassment of
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: this and it's just silly that you can challenge some
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: things and can't challenge other things. And Rodman, for what
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: are you doing, buddy?
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Well, it's all those things are true, all right. So
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: let's get to let's get to the fifth inning. It's
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: a one nothing game, Brewers with the lead, and all
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: of a sudden they start getting they get a little traffic,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: and you've got Bryce Miller, right hander who hasn't been
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: sharp lately with all the traffic, and you've got left
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: handers coming up. And I thought, maybe I'm wrong here,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: it felt, and I thought Rich Waltz, and God, who's
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: doing color last night? Was it royan wald Smith?
• 53:48
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: I think I can't remember?
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And they mentioned how when Pete Woodward came out,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: they like they were almost late getting the bullpen up right,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and so that was that's mistake one. But
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: number two, whether it's Simpson or for real, like, don't
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: you have to go to a left hander?
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: So it's so funny too, because I was just apopleptic
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: about that decision, and it's you know, to me at
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: the time, it seemed like the biggest decision in the game. Ultimately,
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: you know, again, it's so funny to say, because they
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: ended up scoring two touchdowns to field goals and a
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: two point con version afterwards. But I was just furious
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: about it, and a bunch of Milwaukee fans follow me
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: on Blue Sky for summer. I guess it's just because
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: I haven't insulted their airport enough or something like that.
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: But apparently the Brewers broadcast was like, what are they doing?
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: Why is a left hander not ready for this situation?
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: And that's just not acceptable. And the reason I understand that,
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: you know, you've got six games in a row, you
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: need your pull pen to be fresh. But it was fresh.
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: You had a day off, you didn't have to use
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: very many of the bullpen guys on Sunday, and Bryce
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: Miller was getting away with being down one nothing. It
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: wasn't like he was just really good after that after
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: giving up that one run, and he shouldn't have given
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: up that run, to be clear, but he was getting away.
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: Everything was middle middle. There were a ton of line
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: drive out. You have to have somebody ready to go.
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: And then when Yellich is up after you're down three nothing,
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: that game is over. As soon as Christian Yell shits
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: that home run, it's over. You have to have somebody
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: ready to go in that situation. And it's another case.
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: And it's so funny to blame the manager for a
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: ninth to twenty two to nothing loss, But it's another
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: situation where Dan Wilson flips the coin and gets it wrong.
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: And that shouldn't have been a coin flip. That shouldn't
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: have come down to a coin flip. It was the
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: most obvious pull of obvious pulls. And you know, you
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: can call it recency bias or whatever. I don't think
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: I'm crazy to say that ninety nine times out of
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: one hundred, it seems like Dan Wilson makes the wrong
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: call in those situations. And that's not a gut reaction.
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: That's not a I can go this way, I can
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: go that way. It's a blatantly obvious diss situation to
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: go bring it a reliever for that situation. Screwed the
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: pooch and everything else went bad after that. But baseball
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: is just such a different game. Down three nothing compared
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: down six nothing compared one nothing. It just that's the
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: reality of the situation. It's just so frustrating to watch
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: and make the wrong decision over and over that that one.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, because now all of a sudden, it's
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: a six nothing game after five.
• 56:49
  Speaker 11: I I.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: We've seen weird things happen. Yeah, it was probably over.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: It was probably over at six nothing at that point
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: with the Mariners offense. And I'll I'll go there next,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: we'll just go chronological. You have five hits in the game.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: You have five hits. You you're sole home run dependent again,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: you don't hit home runs, you don't hit balls over
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: the fence, you don't win games. So maybe it was
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: over six nothing. And yes, Dan is going to get
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: the blame. The you know, Bryce Miller move is really
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: was what probably lost the game. And then the bullpen,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: you know, basically a guy that frankly, if you're really
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: truly a World Series contender, is is Simpson or even
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Davilion on your roster? Probably not right, but I mean
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: so you've got roster construction issues as well. But at
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: that point you got a chance. Maybe you put a
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: couple on the board in the sixth inning, right, Maybe
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden you put a couple up there
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: and it's six to three. You're back in it. You're
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: back in it, right, I guess, I guess that's the
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: thing that's just odd. But they're playing this long game, Chris,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: and it's and you just said it gonna We're gonna
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: save the bullpen. Well, the bullpen's rested. It's rested yet
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: a day off. I guess that's the part with Wilson.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: I can't understand.
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: It's so frustrating. And again, this is not just us,
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: you know, local yuts complaining about it. I hear stuff
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: all the time from the national folks. I mean, Joshi
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: talks about it. Joshian was talking about it up to me.
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: I'm Blue Sky yesterday, talking about like, you're blaming the
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: center fielder who threw a ball over the fence when
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: they were down by three touchdowns more than the guy
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: who chose to bring in a freaking middle infielder to
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: pitch and made the decisions that he did. Like, it's
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: just crazy, But look, this offense stunk last night. There
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: were some of the worst at bats that I have
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: seen all year, in particular from Julio who took a
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: pitch right down the middle of the flip and plate
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: and it burst at bat with a runner on third
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: base and then swung at a ball that was at
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: Yao Ming's eyes back like. It was a terrible offensive
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: game outside of that double the lead off the game, which,
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: by the way, that was the first extra base hit
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: off a left hander that Brendan Donovan has this frickin year.
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: That was the first one he's had against the left hander.
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: Now it's only forty played appearances, but that's still pathetic,
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: just esthetic and shows you how bad they are at
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: same side stuff and why the fact that platoon stuff
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: hasn't worked out. But the bats yesterday were atrocious. Big
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: Dumper drew a couple of walks, will be flipping, do
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: I mean? Just this offense was never good enough. So
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: if you want to go for that, it doesn't matter
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: if they lose one nothing, It doesn't matter if they
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: lose twenty two nothing. Sure would be nice something in
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: between there. But this offense was not going to score yesterday,
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: and that's just pathetic.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Big Dumper is six for his last forty eight. That's
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: a one twenty five average. If we were looking for
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: them momentum after the home run on Sunday, it did
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: not come. Yes he was only zero for one because
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: what did he do? He walked a couple times. How
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: lost is he?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, I just think he's hurt. I truly believe
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: that he's not healthy and just can't drive the baseball,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: in particular from the left side. By the way that
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: home run that he hit the three hundred and fifteen
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: foot and one inch, I'm not complaining about it to before.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: To be clear, he did hit the ball over the fence.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: Another one from the right side. I believe that's the
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: last four have come as a right handed hitter, and
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: there's just been no damage done from the left side
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: at all. Now, he was hitting from the right side
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: all game yesterday and walks are good, wats are really good.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: But you need him to drop into baseball. You need
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: a guy who has been not just a sixty over
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: hitter last year, but a guy who hit thirty the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: last couple of years. You can't have him slugging in
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: this high two hundreds or the low three hundreds. It
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: just doesn't work. You can't have anybody. It's really hard
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: to justify having someone in the lineup like that. It's
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: just such a lost season. And if you want to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: point back to the Randy cow non handshake thing. If
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: that's what got it through. If you want to say
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: he's just been too wasn't upfront enough about his injuries
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: to begin the year, you can do that too. But
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: either way, it's an absolute s show of a season.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: And you know, I feel kind of crazy with people
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: just blaming Calraly. If you're blaming just cal Ralely, what
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: you're saying is cal Rawley was worth about thirty three
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: wins last year. That's literally what you're saying. And that's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: not true. That's absolutely not true. There's lots of reasons
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: why the Mariners suck eggs, but it's okay to be
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: upset about the season cal Rawly is having because just
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: flat out it isn't good enough.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Well, if he's I mean, here's the thing. If it
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: turns out he has heard again, then it's malpractice. I mean,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: it's it's if that's the case, I mean, it's because
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: he's awful, and he's and it's just and there, he's awful.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Let me ask that this is the bigger one. And
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Joe's right, you're not blaming the center fielder for the
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: throw into the outfield seats after he thought there after
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: he lost track of the outs. But that's this is
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: kind of it. Well, this is why I wanted to
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: talk today. I thought, I thought, if if you're just
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: looking for the illustration of who and what this team is.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: And I've been really hesitant about criticizing Dan Wilson. I've
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: I've you know this, you probably you guys probably talked
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: behind my back. And one, why is he in not
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: hammerd him? Because he hammers everybody the very I thought
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: that was it. I thought, I thought that I don't
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: care the runs didn't matter. What mattered was the the visual,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: the optics of it all, just that that good teams
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: don't do things like that. I think it's as simple
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: as that, Chris, I really do. I think it's as
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: simple as that good teams don't do that.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 6: No, And I think that's fair. I just I go,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: I don't want to go too crazy about this because
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: it is something I've seen lots of players mistake. I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: have seen it. I've seen players throw it in try
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: to get the ball back into the to the outfield. Now,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: Julio couldn't have done actu of how far he threw it.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: And again because further than anyone hit a baseball yesterday.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: It's just a bad look. It's a bad look. And
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: there were lots of bad looks yesterday. There were a
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: ton of them bringing in the middle relie. But like that,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 6: to me is still the worst look. The fact that
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: I don't care how much they were down by. You
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: have a fresh bullpen, a fresh bullpen, and what you
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: said was this game no longer matters. I'm sorry you
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: were not in the position to tell me that. You
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: were not in the position to anymore tell me that
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: these games don't matter. You can say whatever you want.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: Covi Dodd's text line four nine, four or five one.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: Tell me I'm crazy. I hate giving up.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 8: I hate it.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: I hate it. I think it's loser behavior. So yeah,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: I'm pissed that Leo didn't know how many outs there
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: were in a six hour rating, and I'm pissed that
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: big Dumper can't hit. I'm more pissed that the Mariners
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: put up a white freaking flag in the part time
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: where white freaking flags just aren't good enough to be.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: So you're right, the optics of it look terrible. I'm
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: sure sports media is just going eight just making fun
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: of the dude and that's fine because it's a silly mistake.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: It's an unacceptable mistake. It's I think there are bigger
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: issues at play here too. I hope that makes sense.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: What are the bigger issues in your mind?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: The fact that this team needed to quit, the fact
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: that this team was you know, and people talk about
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: momentum so so much in sports, and it is absolute nonsense.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: And if you needed any proof that momentum is a
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: nonsense thing in sports, look at how they played against Houston.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: Everyone contributed, and look at the absolute giant goose turd
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: on a golf course that they laid in that game.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 6: There's no such thing. And if there is, and if
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: there's this big thing about clubhouse camaraderie and all that crap,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: it can't be that great under Dan Wilson right now,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: it's just not very good.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Well, if there was momentum then, or even you know,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: lack thereof, then after Friday, when you have the most
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: devastating loss probably of the year, how do you come
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: back and have two big wins against Houston?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: You don't, right, great question, And then you know a
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: bunch of people brought that up on the text line,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: and then you know they said Hey, why aren't you
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: giving credit for keeping the team together. Well, I'll ask
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 6: you again, text line, what do you say about yesterday then,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: because not all losses are equal, not all losses are
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: you know, they say the win sixty, lose sixty. It's
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: what they do in the other forty two. This is
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: the other forty two. This is one of those, and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: it's just an embarrassing loss that highlights that there is
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: such a long way to go for this team to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: be a true World Series contender, and that it just
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: kind of breaks my heart.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Well, let's let's just wrap it up with that, because
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: if like, just in terms of the standings, if we don't,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: if we're just looking at at just the standings, not
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: looking at how they've played, how the manager manages a game,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: and you know, in the really really thin bullpen, I
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: guess is the best way to put it. That they
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: have they've got maybe you know, I mean, our guys
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: been good, right, Munnos has been better outside of the
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: last Friday, and even last Friday, I mean to excuse me,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: singles and bad luck. Right, So here's the reality is this.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 8: You have what is it?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: You have fourteen combined games against the Angels, and the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Athletics in the month of September, right, like, so you've
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: got that, You've got you know, once you get through
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: you've got once you get through Boston. On the September
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: tewod you go four against the Athletics, three against the Rangers,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: three more against the A's, three against the Angels, three
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: against Colorado, two against Houston, and four against LA. They're
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: right there, like they're fine in terms of that, just
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: in terms of where they're at, Like they're fine. That's
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: the thing that's mind boggling. Now, they got to win
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: those games and people would say, well, what tells you
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: you're going to beat those Well, those other teams are awful,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: I mean as bad as Seattle was last night and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: everything else. I think Joshian said it really well to
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: us yesterday. Just look at the roster, look at the rotation.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Just they're better.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Now we'll have a conversation on September twenty eighth if
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: they're not in but they're still in it are they not.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: A thousand percent? And it's that's more indictment. I talked
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: about this with Softy on crosstalk on Monday. That is
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: not really a compliment to the Mariners. It's an indictment
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: to the American League. It's an embarrassing that the Seattle
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: Mariners and a few of these teams are still in play.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: But they are in play, and I do appreciate that.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: As frustrated as I am about yesterday's game and how
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: embarrassing it is when today and I won't really care
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: all that much. I'll always remember it because you know,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: when you break a record that has been held for
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: like one hundred and sixty years, then yeah, that is
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: something you're going to think about here and there. But
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: if you win, it evens it out and you still
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: have a chance to win the series. If you win
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: today's game. Who knows if they will or not. But
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 6: that's the reality of the situation. But they are still
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: in it, and I appreciate that they're still in it,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: and I've refused to give up. I just, you know,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: just like I think it's embarrassing that they brought in
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: a reliever to pitch that final inning. The one of
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: the reasons is because I just, I hate to say,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: refuse to lose, but gosh damn it, I'm going to
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  Speaker 6: I refuse to accept it. I demanded this team get
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  Speaker 6: to the World Series, and it's just no fun to
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 6: be a loser dork who gives up on things and
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 6: looks at their freaking draft lottery odds. I refuse to
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: give up, and thank god everyone in the American League
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: stucks balls because you still have a chance to do something.
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  Speaker 2: It's very true. It is very true. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: the thing. When it's all said, I guess and I'm
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  Speaker 2: as I sit here and tell oh, they're still in it.
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  Speaker 2: There's still and they are they very much try.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I do believe.
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  Speaker 2: I'm starting to more and more think and tell me
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: if I'm right or wrong here. I'm starting to think
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: more and more that this is probably if I'm not
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: miss it might be division or bust, because I think
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: that the traffic in front of you and the wild card,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: you need a lot of teams to not play well,
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  Speaker 2: right like, and some of those teams are playing each other,
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  Speaker 2: they'll be each other up. But I think just the
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  Speaker 2: amount of traffic, the fact that you've got Minnesota, Texas, Toronto, Cleveland, Baltimore,
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  Speaker 2: Detroit all ahead of you, I think you have a
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: better chance to leap frog Houston than you do those
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  Speaker 2: other teams all of those other teams.
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  Speaker 6: So I think you're right because of the math, and
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: you're right in the head and that's because you know,
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  Speaker 6: you went to one of the elite institutions in all
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  Speaker 2: It's the Harvard of the Northwest, sir, It's the Harvard
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  Speaker 6: It's definitely the Harvard of something. So you're right in
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: that regard. But those teams that you just mentioned in
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: and I'm gonna name them again, Minnesota, Texas, Toronto, Cleveland, Baltimore,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: and Detroit, what they all have in common is is
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 6: they suck. They're bad baseball teams, but they're really bad
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 6: baseball teams, like they should not be in wild card contention.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 6: So that's the other reason for optimism is that, yeah,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: it's a lot of teams to leap frog, but it's
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: a lot of crappy teams to leap frog like, and
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  Speaker 6: it just takes. The thing is they only play I
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  Speaker 6: think they only have two series against those teams. They
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: play the Rangers and then they play the Blue Jays
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  Speaker 6: at the end of this month. So it's a little
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: harder because you're not getting to gain ground on him.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: But those teams are going to lose ground just playing
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: baseball because they suck, So I would say the division
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: is the more likely one. But I can see them
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: still winning a wildcard spot just because that schedule in
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: September is so friendly, and if I didn't mention it before,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: those teams ahead of them are freaking awful baseball teams.
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  Speaker 6: So division or bust is more likely in the head.
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  Speaker 6: But boy, it's it's really hard for me to say
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  Speaker 6: that they can't win the wildcard just because of how
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  Speaker 6: crappy those baseball teams are.
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  Speaker 2: just a moment ago the.
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  Speaker 12: History, saying what these young guys with the team has
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  Speaker 12: been doing. Seeing a lot of young guys just coming
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  Speaker 12: together and just being a great football team. I know
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  Speaker 12: a lot of familiar faces here, Josh, Joe d Law,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 12: just those guys talking to those guys. They're saying it's
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  Speaker 12: a great fit, you know, just everything that they have
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  Speaker 12: going here, and you know, I would love to be a.
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  Speaker 3: Part of it.
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  Speaker 2: What did the coaches tell you about what they want
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  Speaker 2: you to show or what they.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just come here to compete, you know.
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  Speaker 12: I just want to come here and compete, you know,
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  Speaker 12: earn my keep, you know, just do everything I can
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 12: just to you know, earn a spot here.
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  Speaker 3: And you know how this team win? Really yesterday?
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  Speaker 11: Is that the first time they sort of interesting?
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  Speaker 6: Uh?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, they been talking to my agent for a little
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 12: bit and then they s he told me they were
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 12: gonna come down here, get me down.
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  Speaker 3: For a workout.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: I came down here, I worked out, you know, and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: then the rest is history.
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  Speaker 4: You you you had a visit with Detroit as well.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, or yeah, Uh I had a visit with Detroit.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 12: I was supposed to see a a couple of other teams.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 12: But yeah, you know it's I like to hear a
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 12: lot like this feels like home, you know, I'm I
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 12: got a lot of familiar faces. Coach Scott uh Ad,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 12: you know, so just being a part of those guys,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 12: those guys knowing me knowing you know, where my heart is,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 12: knowing how how I wanna compete.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: So you know it it felt right.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Guys here, particularly in the secondary.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, most definitely. You know, you gotta haveslee that you
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  Speaker 12: know you can relate to and talk to. You know,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 12: guys gonna help you out and you know, push you
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  Speaker 12: to to be your best, you know, And that's what
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  Speaker 12: I want for myself, and that's what I wanna do.
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  Speaker 11: A sars So was your.
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  Speaker 6: Plan and you Picky Tea, wait till the.
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  Speaker 4: Summer, find a situation really right or what you're playing Jim.
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  Speaker 12: Just finding somewhere that you know felt like home, you know,
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  Speaker 12: finding somewhere you know that I'll have opportunity to compete,
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  Speaker 12: have a opportunity you know, to play and just you know,
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  Speaker 12: if it felt right, you know, that's what I wanna
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  Speaker 12: do more to make the right decision for me.
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  Speaker 13: What do you feel like your strengths are as a
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 13: corner and where it's places here you wanted to treat.
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  Speaker 12: My strengths is a corner. I got great ball skills,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 12: you know, I I a great knack for the ball.
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  Speaker 12: Just understanding you know, c offenses, understanding routes, understanding you
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 12: know what receivers wanna do you know, I think that's
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 12: my abilities.
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  Speaker 13: Do you feel like the defense that they play here?
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 13: And you know, familiarity with Yeah Carl and Josh from Yeah,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 13: I'm gonna hear, how'd it translate for for what you're year?
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  Speaker 12: Uh, it's a lot of uh similarities. Just talking to Josh,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 12: you know, earlier today he was telling us a lot
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 12: of similarities.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 12: He he say, gonna help me out, you know, get
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 12: the playbook down. You know, i'm'a be in my playbook
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 12: every day just to get the whole defense down. And
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 12: you know, just being being able to, uh give myself
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 12: a chance, give myself aur to me to come out
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 12: here and compete and.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: You know, help within.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: And do you feel like you're fully healthy?
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Most definitely, most definitely.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 12: Oh it's my first off season that I've been able
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 12: to uh just not rehab and actually do off season trainings.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 12: So you know a lot of trainers put the work in,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 12: help me put the work in to get to where
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 12: I'm at today. You know, I'm truly thankful for that,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 12: and you know, uh it's a blessing for God and
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 12: from God, honestly, just to be able to you know,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 12: come out here again.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: What are you look at the show? Obviously you had
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: a tough for ourn.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: Injuries or now yeah, are healthy?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Like you said, what are you looking at the show?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 12: Uh, I wan, I'm looking to show that I I'm
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 12: still the best, you know, I'm looking to show that.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 12: I just wanna win, you know, be there for my teammates,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 12: be a great teammate, you know, uh, and be a
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 12: great player.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: No one's joke with you. What do you mean having
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: those teammates.
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  Speaker 12: Uh, it's really good, you know, Like I said, just
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 12: having someone that you're familiar with or that you can
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 12: talk to, you know, ask questions with it helps out
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 12: a lot.
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  Speaker 2: It's less you're tough for you with the injuries there
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: after you ever dealt with anything like that, you cut
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: your what it is?
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  Speaker 12: Uh No, that was my first concussion ever. Uh it
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 12: was different, you know, but just overcoming uh jury, you know,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 12: just adversity. Overcoming adversity period is always tough. But you know,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 12: if if you did it before, you know you can
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  Speaker 12: do it again.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 12: Just I just wanna be able to play healthy, you
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 12: know this year, full season and help rom.
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  Speaker 3: What was it like trying to deal with those injuries
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: coming to one or another.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: And just kind of feeling like her in the same.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: Spot and trying to work back.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: Bro, How how was that to your momentally and all that,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: and what was the process of getting to the back.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: When you feel like, yeah, yeah, it was tough. It
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: was tough.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 12: But just keeping good people around you, you know, my
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 12: family was a a great support system for me, keeping
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 12: my mental straight. Uh, just keep going, you know, you know,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 12: I love football, you know, Uh, I I just love football.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: I love to play.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 12: So this being a part of football, you know, it's
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 12: kind of like it's part of my job. It's a
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 12: part of your job. You gonna get hurt, you gonna
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 12: have things that happen, you gonna get traded, you gonna
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 12: get cut. Things happen, but you just gotta keep going.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: Marcus Lawrence came here from Dallas one Super Bowl Las.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're Valor here. Yeah you here at Dirty here.
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  Speaker 13: It's like Dallas, a lot of guys coming here from
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 13: that organization. Yeah, what are your thoughts on on the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 13: kind of that transition and obviously.
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  Speaker 12: A different places you played, just being with those guys,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 12: you know, the things that we were doing the family
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  Speaker 12: aspect of it. You know, I see a lot of similarities.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 12: Just how close the guys are, you know, how tight
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 12: the group is. You know that that's very important with
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 12: a football team, just you know, being together, you know,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 12: being one, making sure your locker room is straight, and
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 12: you know, I see a lot of similarities there.
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
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  Speaker 14: he's played with in the past, either at Alabama or with.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys. So there's a lot of building connections there.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 14: And Carl Scott also coached him at Alabama, and so
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 14: Carl Scott's got a voice and this as well.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: Knowing that Terry on Arnold, if they were going.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 14: To sign him, is not likely to be playing anytime soon,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 14: became a really good trade off option there to get
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 14: another veteran with proven experience who has shown that he's
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 14: got a very high ceiling. If they can get him
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 14: back to playing at that level, who knows if we'll
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 14: see that eleven interception caliber player ever again. But I
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 14: think the Seahawks would settle for a guy that can
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 14: be the number three corner and can give him a
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 14: handful of picks during this upcoming season.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: I think it's safe to say we can assume this
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: right that that Mike mca mean, they're always trying to
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: get better and all those things, but without Rik Wollen
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: and you got Witherspoon, and then you go down that
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: depth chart, it's job and then the drop off what
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: maybe Pritchett hasn't taken that step. Maybe, you know, certainly
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: Julian Neil not being healthy. Their their draft pick is
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: probably not like Dan's. We had a strong start to camp,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: their seventh round pick has kind of fallen off a
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: little bit. Is is maybe safe to say they felt
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: like they needed to upgrade that cornerback position.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I think that this, you know, I don't think
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 14: it's a desperation signing by any means. I think that
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 14: they're always looking to add quality veterans like this, and
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 14: when they have their opportunities, they'll take their shots. And
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 14: I think that there is some intrigue with the young players.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 14: I still think Dansby's had a really solid August here
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 14: but it's not a guy that they're going to be
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 14: ready to vault into the lineup.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: And then pritch it.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 14: You know, Pritchett's made some plays, but this makes you
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 14: wonder these last two moves are the one that could
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 14: still happen with Terry on Arnold.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: They're looking from a short and long term play with.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 14: A few of these things, can we get higher upside
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 14: talent that we can bring in into our locker room
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 14: and into our culture and develop these guys and have
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 14: them become key contributors in our defensive backfield.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: And if it doesn't work out, they're not paying much
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: money for either one of these guys, so they're.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 14: Cheap, low risk, high reward type signings that allow you
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 14: to continue developing some of those young guys that are
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 14: on your roster.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: And I think the one that we have to make
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: sure we mention here. I thought Noah igman Agni played
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: really well on Saturday Night. In a little bit of time.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 14: He played and he's had a good camp, So you know,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 14: where does he fit in? That's certainly something to watch.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 14: But oh, by the way, he's also played previously with
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 14: tray Von Diggs in Dallas, so.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: There's another guy that's got a connection to go there.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: There's an amazing Dallas connection here, isn't there? Like it
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: really is crazy. Really, it really has become Dallas West.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: It really has.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: And it's good. I mean I think that's you know,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: you trust certain guys and all that, and that's that's
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: a good thing. It is at Corbus Smith joining us
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: here all right. First preseason games in the book, second
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: one is coming up. You know, I was looking back
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: I was talking to he early and I was looking
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: back to last year. Last year's first preseason game for
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks, they lot or they tied the Raiders twenty
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: three twenty three. That was Quint Kubiak's first game as
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator. They were okay offensively, they were not
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: good defensively. They had three hundred and sixty eight yards
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: of offense, which is about double what they had last week.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: But the second preseason game year was much better and
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: they had the first team offense out there, and we
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: saw a lot more from this team at that point
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: in time. What would you expect to see coming up
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: on Saturday or Sunday, I should.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 14: Say, well, one thing I would not expect to see
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 14: is any first teamers playing of this game because they
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 14: have the joint practices this week with Tennessee. They're going
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 14: to get their meaningful game like reps in a more
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 14: controlled environment at joint practice, so that you're not going
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 14: to be seeing Sam.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: Darnold or any of those guys. But I'm expecting that the.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 14: Players that played this past weekend, you had this week
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 14: to really look back at what didn't go right in
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 14: this game, and in particular trying to mix up your
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 14: offensive line combinations.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: A little bit.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 14: I thought that was the biggest issue that they had
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 14: on Saturday. The first two drives, the starting offensive line
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 14: was pretty good. Then when they started stubbing in their
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 14: third and fourth stringers, everything just kind of fell apart.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: There also was a major dearth of talent at the
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: running back position that was evident.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 8: TJ.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 14: Harden and Justin Jones got cut literally the day after
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 14: the game, so Seattle clearly did not like what they
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 14: saw on that front. They got healthy JAKARTI right back.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 14: I'm hoping we get to see number thirty one out
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 14: there this weekend. Maybe we'll see a little Janarian Price
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 14: as well, but they're gonna be healthier and much more
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 14: explosive in the backfield than what they were last week.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: So really that's what I'm gonna be looking at more
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: than the play calling.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 14: I thought Brian Fleury had a great first drive there,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 14: and I thought there were some other encouraging things, but
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 14: the offensive line really struggled for most of the game
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 14: and they didn't really have much of an impact in
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 14: terms of running the football.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: Just didn't have much juice. Of the guys that were
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: playing most of that game. Well, I was just gonna
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: ask you at the running back position. So Jaccarti right
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: is back. We think right he should be ready to go.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 14: He was good to go yesterday, he was in full pad,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 14: so I would suspect he's gonna be ready to go
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 14: this weekend.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: He's got a golden opportunity, does he not?
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 8: For this team?
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 14: He really does, especially because of Daniel Wilson is still
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 14: out with the hamstring injury. So however long Wilson's out,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 14: this is a chance for Jakarti right to seize that
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 14: opportunity because he is a bigger bodied back that has
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 14: some explosiveness and has a.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: Chance to maybe be the Troy Maine Pope of this preseason.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: With two games left to go. But does he have
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: a chance to make the fifty three man with as
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: many injuries and guys banged up on the in the
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: running back position as they have right now. I think
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: the best chance he.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 14: Has if Emmanuel Wilson's got a longer term injury than
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 14: what the Seahawks have been hinting at, and you know,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 14: maybe he starts the season on the injury reserve, then.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: You absolutely would have Jacarti right on the roster.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 14: But I still think Veilis Jones would probably be ahead
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 14: of him in that pecking order as an extra back
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 14: just because of his special teams and receiving value. So
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 14: I don't know that he has a chance to make
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 14: the team unless Wilson's health is the reason. Why Wow,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 14: I mean yeah, I just I it's still to me
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 14: a big concern running back. I mean, just because of
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 14: the health. I mean, you've you're talking about training camp
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 14: and guys like Price with sore leg, Manuel Wilson with
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 14: whatever's going on with him.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: I mean it's it's Hailani. I thought, Halani. I'll be
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: honest with you. I didn't like seeing Halani in there
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: playing as much as he did last Saturday. I mean
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: he didn't getting twelve carries.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 14: I think that it was by necessity more than anything.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 14: I don't think they wanted. I mean I would have understood.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 14: I thought he was gonna play one dry or maybe
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 14: two at most. But I mean I think he got
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 14: eleven or twelve twelve.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: He had twelve carries. Twelve carries in the game.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 14: Yeah, that's that's way more than I would have liked
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 14: to give him. But I think, you know, again, they
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 14: you basically had. I think they had two NFL caliber
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 14: bats that were in that game suited up. I mean
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 14: the two guys that played after that, like said, they
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 14: got cut afterwards, they didn't.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: They didn't look like NFL backs. Dallas Jones is a guy,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: that's uh. He's an interesting dude. He screams practice squad.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: He can give you a little something a lot of
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: different places. And you know, I didn't I didn't mind
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: him at times.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: Either.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: Numbers final numbers didn't look great. But that's okay. Alright,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: it's Cormus Smith joining us here. Let's talk about the
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: receiver position. It's we kind of know the five and
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: the thought is are we going to have another one?
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: We know five are we going to have six. I
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: think we're gonna have six. The five, of course would
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: be for the five didn't play on Saturday, and then
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: number five would be Jake Bobo just and that's we
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: like Jake Bobo. We like his b walking And if
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: nothing else, there is a contract that tells you that
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: they signed him with the intent that he's not going anywhere.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: Monty Foster, how how far ahead is he from the
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: rest of the pack for that final receiver position? Yeah,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm just now finishing up.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 14: I didn't get a chance yesterday to uh to get
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 14: out an article on some of my thoughts from yesterday's practice.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 14: I'm just getting it up here this afternoon because I
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 14: had a really in depth interview that happened yesterday.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: We're going to get to that. We're going to get
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: to that. We'll get to that. Don't worry.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, so I yeah, mon Tory Foster to me,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 14: I know there were some mistakes, and you watch hard
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 14: and clearly they pointed those out.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: But like he had the only points he had a touchdown.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 14: He also should have had a second one if Drew
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 14: Lock would have put that on his hands. It's a
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 14: sixty five yard touchdown. He had Darien Kendrick, the former Seahawks,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 14: burned on a piece of toast on that plate, and
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 14: I will say this the drop that he had, Like
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 14: I always look for players that, you know, guys that
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 14: are bubble guys. I want to see and I'm sure
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 14: Mike McDonald treats this the same way. I want to
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 14: see how you respond when you mess up.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: Literally two plays later.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 14: Jalen Milroe goes right back to him and he gets
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 14: the first down catch. I that to me jumped out, like, Okay,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 14: this guy has the goods, He's got the mental makeup
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 14: that the Seahawks are looking for. If I have to
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 14: pick the fifty three right now, I think Montory Foster
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 14: makes this football team. I don't think this is a
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 14: case in Williams type situation. And I'll give you two words.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 14: Why special teams.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 14: Cason didn't play any special teams and jas Ferguson didn't
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 14: play special teams.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: Montry Foster is a very good special teams player. Well,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's I got. It's funny that's you
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: bring back taking his way back in time with Cason Williams.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: But I remember that with Caseon. I remember having that
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: conversation about Cason Williams. I mean, you know all all
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: the accolades in college and everything, but yeah, never never
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: saw the special team. And that's the problem. If you're
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: a high end guy in college oftentimes you don't see
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: special teams. Can you make that transition? Can you do it?
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 12: Uh?
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: And and Foster certainly can. What are you watching for
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: on defense on Saturday or Sunday? I want to see
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: if an edge guy shows up like that.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 14: That is the biggest concern that I have from a
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 14: depth perspective on this roster. It is not cornerback the
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 14: first four and this is assuming that Derek Hall's injuries
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 14: not one that's going to be long term. But there
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 14: is a massive drop off from those first four guys
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 14: to what else is on this roster. I thought Jalen
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 14: Gaines had some splashy pass rushes in Saturday's game, but
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 14: his run defense was hit and miss. I haven't seen
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 14: much of anything from Aiden Hubbard. He was a guy
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 14: was excited about, but I just haven't seen anything on
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 14: the film in practice, it just hasn't popped. We haven't
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 14: seen much from Marvin Jones Junior Jamie Sheriff's been banged up.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 14: He's now healthy, so maybe we get seen Himber fifty
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 14: get after it a little bit. But like Conor O'Toole
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 14: has been quiet. I mean, I just want to see
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 14: somebody emerge and say, hey, look at me. I'm here,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 14: like there's just to me. Tyree's Knight is the fifth
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 14: Edge's that's who I would be playing, is the fifth
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 14: edge in situational stuff. So I can get him on
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 14: the field, But they've got to find somebody there that
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 14: can emerge or else that might be a position that
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 14: they're looking to pounce in the waiver wire to get
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 14: some extra talent and depth.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you brought that up because I thought
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: the same thing I just watching and calling the game
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: is like Tyree Knight popped, he had ten tackles, of
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: course he did. I think what jumped out too is
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: a fact you didn't have a sack in the game,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: and you only had two quarterback hits. They both came
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: from guys on the interior and Gain and Mike Morris,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: So you didn't you just didn't have You just didn't
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: have what you needed to do on the edge from
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: any of those guys, and I'm with you the drop off.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: Now they've got a good, solid rotation. The problem is
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: after that rotation it drops off significantly, right, And you're
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: right with Tyler to worry about if somebody gets hurt, Like,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? And I know some people
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: are saying, well, Tyre's Knight's not big enough. I'm like,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: Tyro's Knight's two hundred and forty pounds, like, and he's physical.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: He played off the edge at UTAP like you wouldn't
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: be playing him there every down. He's not gonna be
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: playing there in rundowns and whatever.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 14: But like you know, I tried to ask Mike McDonald
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 14: about this two days ago, and there's a reason he
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 14: wasn't willing to give me much of an answer because
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 14: they're looking to do it, like they're looking to get
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 14: Tyree Knight involved.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: In that capacity, and they should. With what we saw
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: from the rest of the Edge group that played on Saturday,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: it was just to me, it was an underwhelming performance
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: from that group. Yeah, I would say, also kind of
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: underwhelming for the two quarterbacks. Locke was nine of thirteen
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: for forty yards, but probably a one that he definitely
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: wants back down the sideline that should have been a
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: touchdown pass. Milroe middling results as well, five of eight
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: for thirty six. He did have five runs for thirty
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: six yards along the way, but he air mailed a
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: couple throws as well. I mean, I think it's a
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: big weekend. I think it's a bigger weekend. They know
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: what Drew Lock is, they know who Drew Lock is,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: and everyone's going to miss a pass. I think it's
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: a big weekend for Jalen Milroe.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 14: I would agree. He has got to show what we
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 14: have seen most of training camp. It's got to translate
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 14: to game action, and we just aside from one or
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 14: two throws here and there, we just haven't seen that happen.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: And I thought Drew Locke, going back and watching the tape,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: I thought Drew played.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 14: I thought Drew was significantly better than Jalen in the
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 14: sense that it's still the big thing that's separating.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: These two is the pocket favvy and the pocket awareness.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 14: Drew Lock makes his offensive line better with his ability
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 14: to manipulate the pocket, stay in there and let things happen.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 14: Jalen gets happy feed and then I know they wanted
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 14: to run, but like there were times in that game
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 14: centre and then it's like you created the pressure by
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 14: escaping the pocket.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: He that is still an area that he has a
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: long way to go. What else are you watching? Give
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: me one more thing that you're gonna be watching on Sunday.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm really excited to watch the young corners. I
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 14: know that they just brought in Trayvon Diggs, but like,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 14: he's funny. I thought Michael Dansby, you know, watching the
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 14: game live, there were a couple of plays that I
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 14: thought he He and schamar Jine Charles lot of like
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 14: the same body type, and I thought that Dansby was
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 14: the one that missed tackles. And then I went back
• 1:36:38
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• 1:36:41
  Speaker 14: he tackled really well. And then the touchdown he gave
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 14: up was just a ridiculous catch by Camden Brown and
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• 1:36:54
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  Speaker 2: reaction to last night's debacle in the Mariners game and
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  Speaker 2: much more.
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  Speaker 9: Next Actually, it would surprise me a lot if they
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 9: were to win the next two games, considering that they
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 9: just won a road series for the first time since
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 9: what late May when they did it against the Astros
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 9: over the weekend. So yeah, it would surprise me.
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  Speaker 15: And it looks like one of us is gonna need
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 15: your buddy, Jim Smith. Tim Smith, I'm having a brain
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  Speaker 15: flog right now. But looks like one of us is
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 15: gonna need a new house because I've put my house
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 15: all the money on Milwaukee winning again tonight. What in
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 15: your right mind thinks the Mariners are gonna win tonight?
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 15: After that game, I put money on being swept.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 11: This is the ancient Mariner. Hey, and I'll bet you
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 11: after last night's game, the ownerships of Jeff Smully and
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 11: George Argoris and Danny k don't look so bad now?
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• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: Mariners tonight and and you lose, what would make me think?
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: Somebody asked, there's no momentum in baseball, man, They they
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: should have been swept by Houston. If there was negative momentum.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: If such a thing exists, they suffer through that game
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: on Friday, come back and blow them out the next day,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: and then equal out to win on Sunday. I don't
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: think what happened the day before in baseball translates to
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: the next day. And you didn't say you'd think it
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: was gonna happen. You said you wouldn't be surprised, wouldn't
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: be sprised if two things happened. One they win this series,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: win the next two games.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: Two.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 8: I'm still.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: Trying to think. I'm not sure if confidence for I
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: still have some. I'm still optimistic they're going to make
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. Just the September schedule is massively easy and
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: they're still within striking distance. So I haven't given up.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: I have not given up whole yet. Keep hope alive.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: Good for you, Ian. Last night was an embarrassment. I mean, God,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: that was an embarrassment. I mean, here's the thing with
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: last night, and we'll get to the text here in
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: a second four nine, four or five one. Last night
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: was an embarrassment for a lot of different reasons, but
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: as also a game that was kind of a microcosm
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: of what this team is and on a lot of levels.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson's inability to manage in game, which I mean
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: probably nothing more criticized in this market than his managing
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: over the last little while. It just God, we got
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of text my fault, just how that operated
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: with the pitching in the fifth inning and staying with
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: Bryce Miller. Just I think it's unacceptable. Oh, by the way,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: real quick shout out ta Cooma little League.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 8: Just one.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: They beat team from Alabama, the Southeast Representative one nothing
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: in the opening round of Little League World Series. Two
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: nothing was the final. And here's what's cool. They've got
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: the trident. Oh, nobody hit a home run, but they
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: got that. They're putting their like you know they do
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: like in basketball, like in the tournament when you put
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: your your your name, the team name up there and
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: the bracket and stuff.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: After the game.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: They just did that and they got the They had
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: the trident going, which is really cool, really really cool. Anyway,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: let's see what we got. What would Lou have done
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: with Julio a teaching moment ass chewing one hundred percent?
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: I God, I'll ask Softy knew Lou a lot. I
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: dealt with Lou like twice before I left the market
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: and before I came back and he was gone. I'll
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: ask Softy that I can't imagine. I mean there's a
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: lot of people. God, that's a very popular thing on
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: the text, like, can you imagine if.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 8: Lou was.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Lou would have lost his mind? Uh two O six.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: The Julio bal toss with two outs is indicative of
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: the lack unfocused, uncompetitive nature of Dan Wilson squads. Its
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: microcosm of how they lack mentality. It talks takes to
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: compete everyday. Yeah, I've been saying I think it's just
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: a I think last night in a lot of ways
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: a micro cosm of the game. The mismanagement of the
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: pitch of the bullpen in the fifth inning, and just
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: the team not only quip but just kind of tuned out.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: It's one thing like you know the game's over, but
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: just finish. That's a hard thing with baseball, is you
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: gotta finish. You gotta get the twenty seven outs, right,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: or I guess, in the case of a visiting team,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: twenty four outs right. I mean, you just got to
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: get that done, your damn right. I'd be surprised if
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: they won the next two. That's all Caps. Milwaukee's a
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: great baseball team. Dan Wilson needs to be fired. Man,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: if I had a dollar for every one of these texts,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: it says, Dan Wilson needs to be fired. I would
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: be a rich man today. I would be a rich
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: man today, says twenty twenty three, when MLB's teams started
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: playing all teams, and Amarrioras are two and eight against
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: the Brewers while being outscored seventy seven twenty three in
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: those ten games. Pathetic quad A franchise.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: As a matter of player, says the two five to
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: three I would be so embarrassed and want to prove
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: a point.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 8: I hope.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: That's kind of mentality the Mirrors will play with today.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: Juio Rodriguez is a four to two five thinks people's
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: criticism of him is dumb. That's what everybody thinks about him, dumb.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: The Milwaukee fans and players were laughing at him. There's
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of Julio criticism on the text line today,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: A lot of criticism today. Let's see four two five Ian.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: I think there's a big difference between lost hope and
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: just uninterested because of how impossible it is to watch
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: this team play. Most people are still checking in, just
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: not watching because of how hard it is to watch.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to find a positive one here. Hey, this
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: here it is two five three. Hey, I'm just just in.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: Brewer scored enough a touchdown, Jez.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: Boy.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: Chris concerned about Cal not driving the baseball. He's hardly
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: even making contact. Cal's the problem, guys. I've been saying that.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: I'll say that every day until it changes. And Chris
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: mentioned today the lack of drive, especially from the left
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: side baseball players. Here's like every sport's different in terms
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: of playing through pain, right, Like. I think that's because
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: baseball players don't always have the reputation be the toughest
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: guys out there, like say a hockey player or a
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: football player. But it's different. That finite mechanism of swinging
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: a bat and connecting on a ball going one hundred
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: miles an hour is like, you've got to be physically right.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: It's not like in hockey you get smashed in the face,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: you get stitched up. I make it sound like it's nothing.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: Smash in the face, stitched up, come back the period later,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: and you know, people celebrate your toughness and rightfully so.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: Like in the NBA, you'd be done for like four weeks.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 8: That'd be it.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: You'd be out.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: They are tough guys, play with all kinds of things
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: that are injured. Tape it up, shoot it up. Whatever
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: they do. Football is the same way these Ball's a
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: little different. You got a rib injury, a little bleak
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: or something like that, like cal has I've said this before.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: I think for me, if he really is hurt again,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: if there's a physical problem with him and he's trying
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: to fight through it. Remember Jerry to Poto criticized cold
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: Emerson for that. But if he's trying to fight through it,
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: you're not doing yourself any favors, and you're not doing
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: the team any favors. That's the problem. Now, there might
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: be more in play here.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: I'd have to look and see. I don't know what
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: the actual number is for a qualifying player. At the
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: end of the year. He missed some time, so maybe
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: he could get away, Like maybe they could shut him down.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: He wouldn't have to worry about having that lowest batting
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: average in the history of baseball. Yeah, that might be
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: in play too. I don't know. I don't know the
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: potal state at the end of the year, says the
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: two O six, and I quote, this is the best
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: roster I've ever assembled. So obvious Dan has lost the
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: team after last night's seam, but the roster he was
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: given is just absurd. If I had a buck every
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: time Dan said you don't or tell fun tonight, I'd
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: be in early retirement. That's Eric in kitzep County. Well,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: I mentioned this last night or the earlier of the
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: show today, and I don't like to do this. I
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: don't like to criticize other teams broadcasts. I thought it
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: was pretty weak that they didn't have the postgame Dan
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: comments last night. Yeah, I thought that was weak. I
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: think you needed to hear from him, and frankly, the
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: two players Miller and cow Boll talked as well. There
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: were quotes in the paper from Booth discovering at this
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: series and that was about it. I think I think,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: I think you should have done that. Somebody did point
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: out three to six, so te town for the win.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: Alabama should have left the girl in the pitch. Alabama
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: had a girl pitch, a girl pitching today. She was
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: phenomenal there's a problem in literally though, there's a pitch
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: count all the way through, and they actually kept her
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: in probably longer than they wanted. If you go over
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: sixty five pitches, I think it is you have to
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: go four days rest. And I think in this type
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: of tournament, I don't think. I think she probably can't
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: pitch again. But good shout out to she was really good.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: He's crazy good.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: The but the Tacoma team with ghost runner and then
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: they got a couple more. They got two runs in
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: the in the seventh inning and got the win. So
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: shout out to t Town the two five to three
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: getting to win the first game of the League World Series.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: Let's go Tacma. Dave Southi Maler, Johnes.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 4: Next, already then already?
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 6: Then?
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, you asked a question. You asked a question
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: I did on Twitter or x whatever it is.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 8: I don't even know what I'm doing here?
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 6: Man?
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 8: Who am I again?
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: Your Dave?
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: Dave Maller?
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: Your question was what the hell has gone on with
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: Bryce Miller's last time starts?
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 8: Oh win seven and his last seven starts go back
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 8: to about eleven months ago, ten months ago when he
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 8: was shoving it up Toronto's ass in game one of
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 8: the Alcs. Yes, in Toronto.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 8: And if I told you here we are ten months
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 8: later and the Mariners are going to be on a
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 8: seven game losing streak with Bryce Miller on the mound. Yeah,
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 8: six and a half era, fifty nine runners and thirty
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 8: seven innings, you would have said the exact same thing.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 8: I said, what happened?
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: I went back because I was trying to figure out
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: I was trying to defend Bryce Miller somehow, right. So
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: I spent some time in the last couple of breaks
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: trying to do that kind of indefensible. But two of
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: the games in the last seven the Mariners were shut
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: out in they averaged two point seven to one runs
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: per game in his starts in the last seven. But
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: when you look at his numbers since Stive, no, and
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: that's so, And then that's the thing I said, I
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: want to do it, thinkan maybe we can defend him
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit. And I came out of it thinking
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: he hasn't been good. The offense in his starts hasn't
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: been good. Dan Wilson did him no favors last night.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: I thought the you know, the thing was underrated about
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: last night a little bit was they mentioned on the
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: broadcast rich And and Hyphen kind of mentioned it. They
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: were really late in that fifth inning of getting the
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: bullpen up right with who was coming up on the
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: left hand side and everything like that his pitch counts
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: getting up there, and when when Woodward went out there
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: and then Cal tried to buy some time, they were
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: just getting those two lefties up. But that's just that's
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: just that's just bad game manage.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 8: Those guys mentioned that on TV yep ye they mentioned
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 8: it was bad management or just pointed out the bame.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: Well, they just got the guys up in the bullpen
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: right now, so Cal's going to go back out there
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  Speaker 2: like like you could tell they're just and Cal understood
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  Speaker 2: and they're trying to buy time when we're trying to
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  Speaker 2: buy times, Like, guys, what do we I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I would just everything about last night was a microcosma
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  Speaker 2: this season.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely. Let me just put it this way, And this
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 8: is probably unfair to a lot of people. And I
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 8: know that everything involving this franchise is making me sick,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 8: everything from the marketing to the broadcast, to the play,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 8: to the ownership, to the manager to the GM to
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 8: the trades they've made, the signings they've made, and again,
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  Speaker 8: I'm in that mood right now, right where everything's just foul,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 8: just absolutely foul. Like I don't know, for those that
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 8: have dogs, right, I don't we throw away our dog
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 8: poop once a week. Get to a point where the
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 8: garbage comes on Friday. By Thursday night, that thing is stank,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 8: big time, horrible, awful, And I'm ready to move on.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 8: I am just ready to move on from everything right now.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 8: I am in such a bad mood about this baseball team,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 8: such a foul mood. I'm angry, I'm embarrassed about what
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 8: happened last night. I'm banging my head against the wall.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 8: I'm yelling at clouds, I'm barking up trees about the
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 8: way this team is being run, the lack of leadership,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 8: the lack of accountability. I said this on X Today,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 8: that I would have yanked to Leo's as out of
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 8: the game, yes last night. Yeah, I know a lot
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 8: of people disagree, but I'm telling you, man, this team
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 8: has no accountability. They have no leadership. There's no recourse whatsoever.
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  Speaker 8: No players work in fear. I mean, you got a
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 8: guy in rob Repschneider, who was able to pop a
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 8: squad on the roster doing nothing for four months. I've
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 8: told you before, if you were a Seahawk linebacker, he
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 8: would have been cut in April. It's unbelievable, just the
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 8: contrast between these two organizations. Randy A. Rose Arena is
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 8: allowed to goof around and look like a moron and
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 8: left field all year long with no repercussion. What's so ever?
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 8: None managers goes out and just says nothing but gibberish,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 8: reads from the same chapter of his cliche book every night,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 8: no recourse there, players don't talk. And then last night,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 8: after the worst loss in franchise history, the damn TV
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 8: network doesn't even show the manager's postgame press conference on television,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 8: leading people to believe that he didn't talk, which he did,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 8: by the way, and there's always and there's always finger pointing.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 8: It's always somebody else's fault. Well, they didn't show the
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 8: press conference, Blame major League Baseball. Well the players didn't talk. Well,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 8: you know they're pissed off, they're angry. Well, Julio, do
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 8: you wasn't yanked, he wasn't bench Well, you know, what
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 8: are you gonna do? The game. I mean it's I'm
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 8: just so tired of it, man, A freaking excuse the
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 8: lack of leadership from the top in this organization. There's
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 8: gross it's grossy.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: And let me address the Wilson stuff because I had
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: a and I heard people I think dimmish, it's that's
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: that's MLB's fault. No no, no, no time out. Let
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: me stop right there, let me up right there. That's
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: your own channel, your own network, right because I got
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: I had this conversation with Tim Booth's covering the games
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: back there, and he says, he said to me, he goes, well,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: you guys in the crack and wouldn't care no, no,
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: no if first of all, we're beholding for different rules.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: We're on King and Kong, okay, so like we have
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: to be off at a certain time. It's a point
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: of contention for us on the broadcast. Get Lane's ass
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: out there because we have to put them on. And
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: you know what the running joke is, we don't want
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: to be the Mariners.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 8: Well you can't. We can't.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: We can't hide from stuff, and you can't.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 8: You can't have the perception out there that your manager
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 8: duct the media, after which he did not do that's
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 8: one hundred percent on that network. And look and we
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 8: can and I agree with you, and we can correct
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 8: the record. You're only so many times on the air, right,
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 8: we did on on on social media, go on the air.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 8: But people don't often hear that, right, Like the first
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 8: impression that you make is often the only chance you
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 8: have to make one. And there are thousands of people
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 8: running around Seattle today that the think Dan Wilson ducked
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 8: the medium.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 3: They did.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 8: Him and they have to be to be better in
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 8: that regard. Well, I just look, I mean, you know me, man,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 8: I'm a big leadership guy. I'm a big trickle down,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 8: a fat guy. I think organizations are a reflection of
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 8: their leadership at the top, right, And this is another
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 8: example of what the hell is going on at the
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 8: top of this organization that the owner's a wall, right,
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 8: Like where is this guy? You know, I know a
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 8: lot of people like you know, they used to get
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 8: pissed off at Steinbrenner back in the day. Arty Moreno,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 8: the Angels, the Phillies, guys come out. But this has
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 8: gotten so bad, and there's so many people being thrown
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 8: under the bus and so much finger pointing going on
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 8: right now with this baseball team. What better time than
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 8: now for the leader of this organization to step up
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 8: and speak and take accountability for what's going on with
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 8: his own team. And yet the guy's hiding. It's it's embarrassing.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 8: And I like John Stanton, there's a person, I really do.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 8: He's a swell guy. But where is he? I mean,
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 8: are we just talking about Hey? Look, this is and
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 8: I get this line of thinking to it and I
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 8: have to break here. This is bad that he's not talking.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 8: This is the way that I might feel if I
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 8: were in the Mariner front office, I would say it's
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 8: bad that he's not talking. But guess what it might
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 8: be worse if he does talk.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: It might be I you want it? You wanted another one?
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: This is even more fun. Just you mentioned Julio at
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: the start row do how are you rewarded for or
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: punished for for last night?
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 8: He's probably back in the lineup tonight.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: Cleanup.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there you go. There's just nothing there.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: There's no account by.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 8: And I'm not blaming Julio for all of this. This is,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 8: as you said, this is a microcosm of the season.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 8: Everything last If you want to argue, you know, when
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 8: it's too late. The Titanic has already sinking. Great, fine,
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 8: whatever we give up, then the hell with it. But
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 8: if it's not important for Julio to act like a pro,
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 8: then why is he out there? If it's if it's
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 8: if it's so lost that Leo Reevos is pitching thirty
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 8: eight mile an hour Ethis pitches last night, then get
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 8: him off the field and get him back in the
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 8: dugout let somebody else stand back there in shag fly balls.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 8: So I mean, they are just way past the accoun
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 8: ability phase with this baseball team. You want to argue
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 8: with me that it's too late, I can see that.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 8: I'm totally fine with that. Whatever, But to me, better
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 8: late than never. It's never too late to start obviously
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 8: creating the the right culture of winning, and this team's
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 8: culture right now is in the toilet, absolute toilet compared
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 8: to the Seahawks. Man, night and freaking day, dude.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: The best thing about this is you're just getting warmed up.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: What's coming up today?
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: God?
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 8: All that and more. Mike Floria will join us, Petros
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 8: will join us in a great day to have Larry Stone,
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 8: by the way, on.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: Stony was Stony was going off on the old social
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: media platforms last night of all things. Mister positive, huh,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: if he if he's, if he's popping, then you got
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: a problem. And if you've lost Larry Stone, this is
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: like when Joe Biden lost CNN. If you've lost CNN,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: you're done. You're done disc breaking news in though help,
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: help is on the way. Jonathan Diaz is up.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 8: I saw that. Yeah, yay, yay.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: All right for the mild mannered and marginally objectionably in
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  Speaker 1: for now, this is paddle day saying so long everyone,