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- 0:00Speaker 1: Section forty of Discourses of Epictetus by Epictetus, translated by
- 0:06Speaker 1: George Long. This LibriVox recording is in the public domain.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Read by Christine Rucker, December twenty first, twenty twenty one, Westford, Massachusetts,
- 0:18Speaker 1: Book two, Chapter ten, How we may discover the duties
- 0:22Speaker 1: of life from names? Consider who you are in the
- 0:27Speaker 1: first place. You are a man, and this is one
- 0:30Speaker 1: who has nothing superior to the faculty of the will,
- 0:35Speaker 1: but all other things subjected to it, and the faculty
- 0:38Speaker 1: itself he possesses, unenslaved and free from subjection. Consider then,
- 0:45Speaker 1: from what things you have been separated by reason? You
- 0:48Speaker 1: have been separated from wild beasts, you have been separated
- 0:52Speaker 1: from domestic animals provaton. Further, you are a citizen of
- 0:58Speaker 1: the world, and a part of it, not one of
- 1:01Speaker 1: the subservient serving, but one of the principal ruling parts.
- 1:07Speaker 1: For you are capable of comprehending the divine administration and
- 1:11Speaker 1: of considering the connection of things. What, then, does the
- 1:15Speaker 1: character of a citizen promise profess to hold nothing as
- 1:20Speaker 1: profitable to himself, to deliberate about nothing as if he
- 1:26Speaker 1: were detached from the community, but to act as the
- 1:29Speaker 1: hand or foot would do if they had reason and
- 1:32Speaker 1: understood the constitution of nature, for they would never put
- 1:36Speaker 1: themselves in motion, nor desire anything otherwise than with reference
- 1:41Speaker 1: to the whole. Therefore, the philosophers say well that if
- 1:45Speaker 1: the good man had foreknowledge of what would happen, he
- 1:49Speaker 1: would cooperate towards his own sickness and death and mutilation,
- 1:54Speaker 1: since he knows that these things are assigned to him
- 1:57Speaker 1: according to the universal arrangement, that the whole is superior
- 2:01Speaker 1: to the part, and the state to the citizen. But now,
- 2:05Speaker 1: because we do not know the future, it is our
- 2:08Speaker 1: duty to stick to the things which are in their
- 2:10Speaker 1: nature more suitable for our choice, For we were made,
- 2:15Speaker 1: among other things, for this. After this, remember that you
- 2:20Speaker 1: are a son. What does this character promise? To consider
- 2:24Speaker 1: that everything which is the son's belongs to the father,
- 2:28Speaker 1: To obey him in all things, never to blame him
- 2:31Speaker 1: to another, nor to say or do anything which does
- 2:35Speaker 1: him injury. To yield to him in all things, and
- 2:38Speaker 1: give way cooperating with him as far as you can.
- 2:43Speaker 1: After this, know that you are a brother also, and
- 2:46Speaker 1: that to this character it is due to make concessions,
- 2:49Speaker 1: to be easily persuaded to speak good of your brother,
- 2:53Speaker 1: never to claim in opposition to him, any of the
- 2:56Speaker 1: things which are independent of the will, but readily to
- 3:00Speaker 1: give them up, that you may have the larger share
- 3:03Speaker 1: in what is dependent on the will. Foresee what a
- 3:07Speaker 1: thing it is in place of a lettuce, if it
- 3:11Speaker 1: should so happen, or a seat to gain for yourself
- 3:14Speaker 1: goodness of disposition? How great is the advantage next to this?
- 3:20Speaker 1: If you are a senator of any state, remember that
- 3:24Speaker 1: you are a senator. If a youth, that you are
- 3:27Speaker 1: a youth. If an old man, that you are an
- 3:30Speaker 1: old man. For each of such names, if it comes
- 3:34Speaker 1: to be examined, marks out the proper duties. But if
- 3:39Speaker 1: you go and blame your brother, I say to you,
- 3:42Speaker 1: you have forgotten who you are and what is your name.
- 3:46Speaker 1: In the next place, if you are a smith and
- 3:49Speaker 1: made a wrong use of the hammer, you would have
- 3:51Speaker 1: forgotten the smith. And if you have forgotten the brother,
- 3:55Speaker 1: and instead of a brother, have become an enemy, would
- 3:58Speaker 1: you appear not to have changed one thing for another
- 4:02Speaker 1: in that case? And if instead a man who is
- 4:06Speaker 1: a tame animal and social, you are become a mischievous
- 4:09Speaker 1: wild beast treacherous and biting. Have you lost nothing? But
- 4:15Speaker 1: I suppose you must lose a bit of money, that
- 4:19Speaker 1: you may suffer damage. And does the loss of nothing
- 4:22Speaker 1: else do a man damage? If you had lost the
- 4:26Speaker 1: art of grammar or music, would you think the loss
- 4:29Speaker 1: of it damage? And if you shall lose modesty, moderation, catastolin,
- 4:36Speaker 1: and gentleness, do you think the loss nothing? And yet
- 4:40Speaker 1: the things first mentioned are lost by some cause external
- 4:45Speaker 1: and independent of the will, and the second by our
- 4:49Speaker 1: own fault. And as to the first, neither to have
- 4:53Speaker 1: them nor to lose them is shameful. But as to
- 4:57Speaker 1: the second, not to have them and to lose them
- 5:00Speaker 1: is shameful and matter of reproach and misfortune. What does
- 5:05Speaker 1: the pathic lose? He loses the character of man? What
- 5:10Speaker 1: does he lose who makes the pathic what he is?
- 5:14Speaker 1: Many other things? And he also loses the man no
- 5:18Speaker 1: less than the other? What does he lose who commits adultery?
- 5:23Speaker 1: He loses the character of the modest, the temperate, the decent,
- 5:29Speaker 1: the citizen, the neighbor. What does he lose? Who is angry?
- 5:34Speaker 1: Something else? What does the coward lose? Something else? No
- 5:39Speaker 1: man is bad without suffering some loss and damage. If
- 5:43Speaker 1: then you look for the damage in the loss of money,
- 5:46Speaker 1: only all these men receive no harm or damage. It
- 5:51Speaker 1: may be they have even profit and gain when they
- 5:54Speaker 1: acquire a bit of money of any of these bad deeds.
- 5:58Speaker 1: But consider that if you refer everything to a small coin,
- 6:02Speaker 1: not even he who loses his nose is in your opinion, damaged. Yes,
- 6:07Speaker 1: you say, for he is mutilated in his body. Well,
- 6:11Speaker 1: but does he who has lost his smell only lose nothing?
- 6:16Speaker 1: Is there then no energy of the soul, which is
- 6:19Speaker 1: an advantage to him who possesses it, and a damage
- 6:22Speaker 1: to him who has lost it? Tell me what sort
- 6:26Speaker 1: of energy you mean? Have we not a natural modesty
- 6:31Speaker 1: we have? Does he who loses this sustain no damage?
- 6:35Speaker 1: Is he deprived of nothing? Does he part with nothing
- 6:39Speaker 1: of the things which belong to him? Have we not
- 6:43Speaker 1: naturally fidelity, natural affection, a natural disposition to help others,
- 6:50Speaker 1: a natural disposition to forbearance. The man, then, who allows
- 6:55Speaker 1: himself to be damaged in these matters, can he be
- 6:58Speaker 1: free from harm and uninjured? What then, shall I not
- 7:02Speaker 1: hurt him who has hurt me in the first place?
- 7:06Speaker 1: Consider what hurt lavi is, and remember that you have
- 7:10Speaker 1: heard from the philosophers. For if the good consists in
- 7:14Speaker 1: the will purpose intention for anssi, and the evil also
- 7:20Speaker 1: in the will, see if what you say is not this,
- 7:24Speaker 1: what then, since that man has hurt himself by doing
- 7:27Speaker 1: an unjust act to me, shall I not hurt myself
- 7:31Speaker 1: by doing some unjust act to him? Why do we
- 7:35Speaker 1: not imagine ourselves mentally think of something of this kind?
- 7:41Speaker 1: But where there is any detriment to the body or
- 7:43Speaker 1: to our possessions, there is harm there. And where the
- 7:46Speaker 1: same thing happens to the faculty of the will, there
- 7:50Speaker 1: is you suppose, no harm. For he who has been deceived,
- 7:54Speaker 1: or he who has done an unjust act, neither suffers
- 7:58Speaker 1: in the head, nor in the eye, nor in the hip,
- 8:01Speaker 1: nor does he lose his estate. And we wish for
- 8:04Speaker 1: nothing else than security to these things. But whether we
- 8:09Speaker 1: shall have it the will modest and faithful or shameless
- 8:14Speaker 1: and faithless, we care not the least except only in
- 8:18Speaker 1: the school, so far as a few words are concerned.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Therefore our proficiency is limited to these few words. But
- 8:27Speaker 1: beyond them it does not exist even in the slightest degree.
- 8:32Speaker 1: End of Book two, Chapter ten,