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Luke Thomas Political Live Chat, ep. 4 · Luke Thomas Gets Political (LTGP)

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  We're live. Hello everyone. Hello.
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  Hello. Hello. On this uh 25th day of
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  September, 2026, Luke Thomas live chat
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  episode, well I should say political
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  live chat episode 4. I appreciate
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  everyone being here. We're going to let
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  the room fill up a little bit and then
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  we'll start taking a look at your
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  questions. Thank you so much for joining
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  me. Again, we still have to do these
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  somewhat informally due to some of the
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  limitations. Google uh YouTube is
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  YouTube is a problem where the there's
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  an issue with the back end that is
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  limiting us from what we can do in terms
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  of integration with other services. Uh
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  YouTube has promised us that there is a
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  fix that is available but until they
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  deploy it we are a little bit stuck. I
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  can do these obviously but I can't it's
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  not like my live chat where I can put
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  everything on the screen uh for using
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  Streamyard or other tools. So I have to
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  kind of wait I have to kind of wait but
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  I appreciate you guys being here just
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  the same. Look at some of these
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  questions.
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  Favorite pizza place near you. Favorite
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  pizza place near me. Um,
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  I don't know about near me, but I like
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  Red Light Pizza is really good. Um,
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  Slice and Pie is really good. Uh, what's
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  the one that serves Oxtail out in
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  Northeast? Um,
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  near Michigan Avenue. I forget the name
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  of that joint, but they they serve.
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  Check just Google like Michigan Avenue
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  Northeast Oxtail Pizza Washington DC.
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  It's a dynamite joint out there. It's
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  amazing. So yeah, Stelina's pretty good.
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  Wise guys is pretty good. You know that
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  kind of thing. Someone writes Comet
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  Pizza. Comet ping pong. I haven't been
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  there in years. Um it's still out there
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  plugging away on Northwest now that all
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  the [ __ ] [ __ ] crazies are leaving it
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  alone. Um but welcome, welcome, welcome,
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  welcome on this day. We'll go for about
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  an hour. Uh, you know, listen, nobody
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  has to do this, but if you want to help
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  support the channel, you want to help
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  support me, I did a live broadcast
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  almost every single day this week. Uh, a
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  a super chat donation goes a real long
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  way. Folks often ask, "What's the best
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  way to support the channel?" And there's
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  then if you support it with um
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  if you support it with super chats, it
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  goes a long way. All right. Very good. I
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  hope everyone had a great week. Uh
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  again, as the room fills up here a
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  little bit, I'll just tell you about the
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  week. We did uh we did Monday's MK, we
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  did MK Today, we had Jimmy Smith. That
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  was great. Did the live chat yesterday.
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  I had to do also yesterday the I did a
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  live breakdown of the Gable Stevenson
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  fight. uh against Shan Sharough. I'm not
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  going to get into MMA here. I'm trying
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  to keep these things distinct, but I'm
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  just sort of pointing out on my
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  substack. I got that done. So, that was
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  up there as well. Did a bunch of
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  interviews. Interviewed Nate Wilcox of
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  MMA Draw, interviewed John Nash about
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  the Ali Act. There was just a lot going
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  on. And I've got politics interviews
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  coming up, by the way. I don't want to
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  kind of spoil it, but I've booked some
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  for the middle of October, which I'm
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  looking forward to. There's two two of
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  them I've got locked in already. Uh I'm
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  looking forward to those. One of which I
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  I'll tell you one of them. One of them
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  is going to be Zeke Hernandez. You guys
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  might recall Zeke Hernandez is the
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  author of The Truth About Immigration.
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  He's an immigration scholar at the
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  University of Pennsylvania. His work was
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  extremely influential on my thinking. I
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  talked to him about I talked to him in
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  August of 2025 about what effects mass
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  deportation was having on the country
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  and what what was underpinning it and
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  then what the future might look like.
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  And I thought a year later, more than a
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  year later at this point, let's check in
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  with him to see how he thinks now that a
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  year plus has passed about what this
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  deportation campaign
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  has done to the country and will what it
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  will continue to do in terms of I think
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  both trauma to the communities, but I
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  think generationally uh negatively
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  impacting it economically. As we know,
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  immigrants are far more likely to be
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  entrepreneurs, relatively speaking. Um
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  they are far more likely in in any kind
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  of firm that has immigrants there.
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  they're far more likely to have
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  inventions, patents, and other forms of
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  innovation. Um, and so when you lose a
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  bunch of that talent, not just that, but
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  academia as well. What does that do long
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  term to a society? So, I'm going to talk
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  to him about that. That'll be in the
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  middle of October, I believe. I'm not
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  sure what the exact date is. So, that's
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  coming up. That'll be fun is not quite
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  the right word, I suppose, but uh I I
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  look forward to the conversation just
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  the same.
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  But uh we had Benjamin Netanyahu
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  yesterday at the UN dropping Hassan
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  [ __ ] by name. You know, let me open up
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  with a little bit of a statement on that
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  if I may on this, which is um
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  I actually think in some kind of way
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  he might have done Hassan a favor.
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  I mean, it's very weird that, you know,
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  I mean, first of all, the fact that he's
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  going after Hassan [ __ ] and then
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  everyone else is going after Hassan
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  [ __ ] It's like,
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  are these efforts,
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  talking points, campaigns,
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  are these organized by some of the same
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  people? It's a question I'm I'm now
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  beginning to ask. But the reason why I
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  say he actually might have done [ __ ] a
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  bit of a favor is that um dude, when
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  Benjamin Netanyahu is your enemy, you're
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  doing all right.
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  And for him to drop him by name, it's
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  like, oh, really? You want to sound like
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  Benjamin Netanyah Netanyahu? You know,
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  Nerra Tanden, you want to sound like
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  him. Liz Smith, you want to sound like
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  him or whoever? You know, um I I I
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  actually don't hate the ball work. I
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  like a lot of what the Bullwork does. In
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  fact, the Bullwork is going to
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  Springfield, Ohio. It's a sort of like
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  de facto rally for the Haitian community
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  there, which I actually really
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  appreciate from them. But, you know,
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  Sarah Longwell has been all over Hassan
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  [ __ ] Like, you want to sound like
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  Benjamin Netanyahu? Really? Is that what
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  you want to do? Okay, that's up to you,
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  I suppose. Um,
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  all right. Let's see what you guys got
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  here.
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  What is this?
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  Uh,
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  I don't know what some of this stuff is.
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  Um, okay. again from the super chats. By
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  the way, there's a there's a couple
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  gifts that have been handed out. I'm not
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  sure what some of this stuff is. The
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  gold coins and the I don't know what
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  that is, but I appreciate it just the
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  same. Um, someone asked, "What happens
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  if Trump declares martial law?" Yeah,
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  then we're [ __ ] dude. I mean, you
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  know, I don't know if we if we get to a
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  point like that, I don't know what to
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  say. And honestly, like I don't I I've
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  made this point before, like on a couple
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  of different levels. One is simply that
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  Trump is capable of just so much
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  destruction. Like if they do like a for
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  example like if they withhold if they if
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  they do a diesel export ban I mean this
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  would just be calamitous.
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  I don't know if they'll do it and I
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  don't know if there'll be enough. Um I
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  don't even know if the White House
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  really even wants it fully. My
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  understanding is like even right-wing
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  economists are in the White House are
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  like nah it's a bad idea. So I I don't
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  know I don't know what will happen with
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  that. But like the fact that that's even
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  sort of coming up and like there there
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  apparently was a report today. I haven't
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  had a chance to read it. There was a
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  report today that they might invade Cuba
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  and they're trying to call on army
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  reserveists to see if they can
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  facilitate an invasion of Cuba. It's
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  like, holy [ __ ] [ __ ] dude. The
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  capacity of this whole thing to fall
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  apart is insane. But I bring us all up
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  to say if there is something left to
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  salvage, that's kind of one part of it.
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  But the other one, too, is like, do we
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  like the dude did January 6 on his way
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  out the door the first time? Like why
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  are we expecting the way out this time
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  to be like, "Oh, he'll just happily give
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  the keys back to the teenagers."
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  I mean, I really I I hope that I am just
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  speaking out of paranoia. Truly, I mean
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  that. I hope I am merely speaking out of
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  I don't know, cynicism.
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  But I I just think it's part of me is
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  foolish
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  that you oh we're he's this is all just
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  going to end relatively normally. I hope
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  I'm not expecting that's not me that's
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  not me saying I think it ends in martial
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  law. That's not what I'm saying. But
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  dude, like acrimony follows this guy.
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  Devastation follows this guy. you know,
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  there's just no way to get this done
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  simply. Um, I don't think I guess we'll
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  see if you can keep those super chats
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  coming. Um, Foiki writes, "Maybe doing a
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  speech and could use some help." Oh,
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  you're maybe you you are maybe doing a
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  speech and could use some help. how to
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  communicate to an audience
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  what is different about this election
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  and why is this one so urgent. So you're
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  giving a speech about what is different
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  about this election and why this one is
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  so urgent. Um, I mean the problem is we
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  end up getting to a place where we have
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  this well this is the election the
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  election that matters most and then I
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  think a lot of people feel like um that
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  as a rallying cry doesn't necessarily
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  work.
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  But I think on some level what you have
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  to impart to the audience is that for
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  all of the problems of the postworld war
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  II established political order that the
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  United States had been living under,
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  there was still something of an
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  appreciation for
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  the technocratic parts of government.
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  There was, you know, over
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  overcredentialism, but it still did
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  matter that you had the appropriate
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  kinds of experiences in education.
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  Um and there was a belief in creating a
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  broken and you know hypocritical and I
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  understand it I understand that there's
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  enormous criticisms to make in a variety
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  of different capacities but still
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  believed in a world of international
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  alliances to help produce and maintain
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  world stability. In other words, not
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  just merely competent government at home
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  and you know to what extent you want to
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  call it honest I think is a much more
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  interesting debate but certainly
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  competent governance and then extending
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  that in a more um to to international
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  systems that we had hoped to hold bad
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  actors to account prevent some of that
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  and more
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  and what you have to understand with
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  Trump and I think this is obviously
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  quite visible you know he has tried to
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  utterly destroy the department of
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  education. They have um you know uh the
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  the abuse of the American military, the
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  taking over national landmarks. Um you
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  saw what Doge doing just you know
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  cutting out parts of the administrative
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  state, gutting the administrative state
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  more generally, whether this is clean
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  water protections, clean air
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  protections, pollution protections,
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  wildlife protections, national parks
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  protections, giving away some of the
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  stuff to billionaires. What you have to
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  understand about the Trump order and the
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  movement that he represents is that it
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  is not part of that postworld war II
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  um
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  order of that political order. They're
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  not from that. This is not merely
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  distinct from that. What the the
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  political movement that Trump represents
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  and is now the head of it's not merely
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  distinct from that. It is much worse
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  than that. It is hostile to it. It is
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  trying to undo it.
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  And the question you have to ask
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  yourself is is like for all the problems
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  that we have with our institutions of
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  which there were many in our practices
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  of which Jesus Christ there was an
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  enormous amount. Sure. And all of that
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  partly explains the rise of Trumpism.
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  But just from a from an from a material
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  operational way in which you live, can
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  you recall this many uh and in fact I
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  know for a fact that you can't this many
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  food born illnesses being uh visible in
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  our food supply. No, of course you
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  can't. But of course it it it and in
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  fact, I've looked this up. Like even the
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  cycllospora outbreak is the worst
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  cycllospora outbreak we've ever had in
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  the United States by a million miles.
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  And then more to the point, the amount
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  of food you're seeing having to get
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  recalled is no accident because we have
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  attacked the system of food safety in
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  this country such that it simply does
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  not work anymore. It's hard to make an
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  argument that this is a superior way in
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  which to function. You could say the
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  same about um the assault on academic
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  institutions. As I mentioned, part of
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  that part of that class that I think
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  Trump and his political movement, what
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  they're hostile to, in that order that
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  they're hostile to, that means they're
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  also naturally going to be hostile to to
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  the institutions that make it possible,
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  including but not limited to um academic
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  institutions. Like, who can look around
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  and say from within the
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  the the attacks made on this a have
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  yielded any real positive result? I
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  don't know what that would even be. And
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  then more to the point that that more of
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  this what will this do to our way of
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  life? I mean there's an enormous amount
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  of research that shows like one of the
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  benefits of economic prosperity is not
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  just material gain. People have more
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  money, they save more money, they can
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  spend more money, they can have more
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  things. And of course having a bunch of
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  things isn't necessarily a marker of
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  happiness, but you know, we all know
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  that abundance tends to be preferable to
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  austerity in many ways. But it's more
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  than that. It's that people's attitudes
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  towards others actually improve. The
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  kinds of things that they focus on or
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  get agitated by are totally different
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  and much much more um manageable. And
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  that in a times of stagnation or
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  austerity that is when not merely the
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  fingerpointing begins but then the
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  racial hostility goes up or any kind of
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  hostility between groups within society.
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  All of it makes it a much more toxic
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  stew. Like dude, just look around. This
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  is an assault on our way of life.
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  It's an assault on our communities. It's
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  an assault on the rule of law. It's an
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  assault on our academic institutions.
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  It's an assault on the international
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  order. And we can make plenty of
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  arguments about how our academic
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  institutions were in need of change or
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  international order. That some of the
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  stuff perhaps did need to go away. It's
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  not to say that these were things that
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  were above reproach. Far from it. Again,
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  their failures made all of this possible
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  to begin with. But now we are getting to
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  a point where look at what it is doing
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  to the way in which we are living and to
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  how society is governed and the things
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  that have actually made for American
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  prosperity. Those things are under
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  direct attack.
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  You just can't point to another
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  election. Even I live through 2004 when
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  Bush ran against John Kerry. You know I
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  remember that race vividly. We are not
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  living under anything even approximating
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  that. And that was at, you know, 3 years
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  after 9/11 and and a year after the
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  invasion of Iraq, like like all this
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  insanity and the country went right back
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  to Bush. That was that was really bad.
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  But it's not like this. This is utterly
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  utterly utterly different. I mean, dude,
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  George Bush, you can say whatever you
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  want. He was the mastermind or, you
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  know, pushed No Child Left Behind, which
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  has gained something of an improved
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  uh reputation over time. Again, that's
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  not a fullthroated endorsement except to
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  say that
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  the
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  upperbound criticisms of what it could
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  end up being did not prove to be true.
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  And again, you can have merits about
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  whether that was good or bad. Contrast
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  that with just trying to shut down the
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  Department of Education.
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  Like, what are we I mean, you know what
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  I mean? Like, this is not even remotely
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  the same. This is an assault on the
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  order that has enormous fault, but also
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  is the order that produced and
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  maintained for quite a long while
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  American greatness. And you have to ask
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  yourself how much of that you're willing
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  to tolerate. Not merely that, but as the
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  point I started this qu answer,
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  by an enormously incompetent
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  group of people.
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  I mean, like look around at the most
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  thriving countries in the world right
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  now, right? Think about this and think
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  about all the different political
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  systems that that might involve and none
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  of these countries are going to be free
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  from issue. All of them will have their
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  issue, right? All of them. But and they
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  have very different systems. Some might
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  have, you know, uh much more controlled
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  market economies, some less. Some all
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  have high rates of immigration, some a
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  lot less, right? They're all going to
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  have some set of unique circumstances.
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  But if there is one thing that underpins
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  it is that they take government
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  competency seriously. They want people
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  who have math PhDs uh in charge of their
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  labor statistics. They want people who
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  have, you know, uh advanced degrees in
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  um engineering or astrophysics or
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  whatever uh in charge of any kind of to
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  the extent that they have one a a space
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  program or you know the people who are
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  in charge of the water supply. They need
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  to know both from experience and from a
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  training perspective. They need to know
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  how municipal water supplies need to be
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  handled, right? There's a competency
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  that is put through the government.
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  Trump is hostile to that, dude.
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  [ __ ] Pete Hexth is the
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  Secretary of Defense. Like, under no
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  argument could you ever make that this
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  was a guy who was in any way qualified
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  for this position. Cash [ __ ] Patel is
• 17:11
  running the FBI. It's not a model of of
• 17:14
  of governance that treats competency
• 17:18
  seriously. And any other one out there
• 17:20
  that you're going to look at is
• 17:22
  different models, different
• 17:23
  circumstances, different populations,
• 17:25
  different stories. The ones that perform
• 17:27
  at a high level, they have high level
• 17:29
  competency in their bureaucratic and
• 17:32
  technocratic practices.
• 17:39
  You see that the White House didn't let
• 17:41
  in a reporter from MS Now after a court
• 17:44
  ordered them to. They went back on it. I
• 17:45
  believe blowing off court orders is just
• 17:47
  the norm for them. So my understanding
• 17:49
  was that happened that morning and then
• 17:51
  they let him back in by the afternoon.
• 17:53
  However, I did see that they also didn't
• 17:55
  let him in for I think uh Xihinping's um
• 18:00
  state dinner. I don't know where we are
• 18:02
  from that point. So they were in they
• 18:04
  were they were excuse me they were out.
• 18:06
  They were in. They were out again. I'm
• 18:08
  not entirely sure, but it's not going
• 18:10
  great.
• 18:13
  Being a China hawk was key to MAGA red
• 18:16
  carpet now.
• 18:20
  Oh, cuz they rolled out the red carpet
• 18:21
  for Xiinping. I don't care about that
• 18:23
  stuff. Like, oh, that they they were on
• 18:26
  their hands and knees. I'm like,
• 18:29
  of all the things this is this is to me
• 18:31
  reminiscent of when the right was like,
• 18:33
  did you I don't know if you guys
• 18:34
  remember this. People always talk about
• 18:37
  the uh
• 18:41
  the tan suit that Obama wore and we all
• 18:44
  can agree that that was like one of the
• 18:45
  dumbest [ __ ] media freakouts of all
• 18:48
  time. But there was another one. You'll
• 18:50
  recall after Bush destroyed our
• 18:52
  reputation internationally. Obama went
• 18:55
  on something of an international tour.
• 18:57
  The right called it an apology tour. And
• 18:59
  I I don't know that that was the wrong
• 19:01
  way to describe it. I mean, obviously he
• 19:03
  didn't go through and be like, "Yo, I'm
• 19:04
  real sorry." But, you know, kind of we
• 19:06
  needed to, to be honest with you, we
• 19:08
  kind of needed to. We had [ __ ] up the
• 19:09
  world at that point. I think it was
• 19:11
  pretty important that we went and mended
• 19:12
  some fences, whatever you want to call
• 19:14
  it. And when he met I don't know who was
• 19:16
  it in Japan, I forget the name, but he
• 19:18
  bowed and he bowed so low that they were
• 19:23
  like, "Oh, he's being subservient to,
• 19:26
  you know, the Japanese and he is, you
• 19:28
  know, he's making a mockery of American
• 19:29
  power." And um that was just one of the
• 19:32
  dumbest things I'd ever seen in my life.
• 19:33
  This is what I mean, dude. Every single
• 19:35
  right-wing freakout, every single one,
• 19:38
  everyone is low IQ. Not for not
• 19:42
  necessarily the entire part of it, but
• 19:43
  at least some part of it is going to be
• 19:44
  low IQ. And then the other part of it
• 19:47
  that's going to be like that is the
• 19:49
  information will just be like factually
• 19:51
  incorrect. Um I forget what the example
• 19:54
  was that they used to defend Obama. I
• 19:55
  think it was that you know he was just
• 19:57
  just showing like you know normal
• 19:58
  deference and I think there's like how
• 20:00
  high you have to bow versus how low. I
• 20:02
  think he was trying to get that right. I
• 20:03
  mean, who gives a [ __ ] right? This is
• 20:05
  to me that, oh, Obama was bowing too
• 20:07
  low, you know, for the Japanese and it's
• 20:10
  like,
• 20:12
  I don't care. I don't care. I mean, I
• 20:14
  realize your point like like that being
• 20:17
  a China hawk in in MAGA was important
• 20:19
  and now they're just rolling out the red
• 20:21
  carpet for him. But, do they need like
• 20:22
  we need to have a positive relationship
• 20:24
  with China? Like, I guess is the thing
• 20:25
  like all the things to get mad about, I
• 20:28
  just can't, you know? It's like, oh,
• 20:29
  Trump wants to have a positive
• 20:30
  relationship with China. That's probably
• 20:32
  good. I mean, I don't think he'll manage
• 20:34
  it well, but I'd rather him have a
• 20:36
  positive one than a negative one, all
• 20:38
  things being what they are, right? I
• 20:40
  mean, do you trust him to have a
• 20:42
  negative one? Because I don't. He'll
• 20:44
  [ __ ] that up instantly.
• 20:49
  Hi, Luke. I was always on the fence with
• 20:51
  Scott G. Oh, Scott Galloway. His
• 20:53
  business takes usually good, but then I
• 20:55
  heard him say Bill Mars is hero and he
• 20:57
  lost all credibility with me. Love your
• 20:59
  LTGP content, by the way. Yeah, I just
• 21:01
  have a video I put up yesterday about
• 21:03
  this. If you guys didn't see Scott
• 21:05
  Galloway, who I don't understand quite
• 21:08
  why people like him so much. I wasn't
• 21:10
  even aware of who he was. And then he
• 21:12
  gave a series of takes on what ails
• 21:14
  young men and part of it made a lot of
• 21:16
  sense because what he argues is like
• 21:17
  when I grew up, you know, the UC
• 21:20
  university system was accessible. You
• 21:21
  could have bad grades and get in and
• 21:23
  look what all I gave to you. And fair
• 21:24
  play. I think that's important to note
• 21:26
  some of these contextual differences.
• 21:28
  But then you know on the other side um
• 21:33
  he basically makes the argument like the
• 21:35
  problem that young men face in society
• 21:36
  is that they have to be um they have to
• 21:39
  achieve status and I was waiting to hear
• 21:41
  like okay so what's your antidote for a
• 21:43
  world where if men don't achieve status
• 21:45
  then they don't hold value and his
• 21:47
  answer was yeah men should just achieve
• 21:48
  status and I was like okay well you're
• 21:51
  not really helping here are you? Um, and
• 21:54
  then he gave a series of takes. He did
• 21:56
  an interview with Jessica Tarla. People
• 21:57
  were beating up Jessica and I didn't
• 21:59
  like her questions either, but I
• 22:01
  genuinely
• 22:02
  think that she has one of the more
• 22:04
  difficult jobs in lefty media and it's
• 22:06
  lucrative, but it's tough. And so I I do
• 22:08
  appreciate her. But for Scott Galloway
• 22:10
  to be like, you know, do you understand
• 22:11
  uh I think he even said as a Jewish
• 22:13
  person, um, you know, why this offends
• 22:16
  me for you to call this a genocide.
• 22:18
  speaking to Abdul Al sayed and it's like
• 22:20
  dude what the [ __ ] does that even mean?
• 22:22
  Like your religious affiliation gives
• 22:24
  you greater insight into what does or
• 22:26
  doesn't constitute genocide. If
• 22:28
  anything, it just bakes in your bias
• 22:30
  about what you're willing to see and not
• 22:32
  see. And he doesn't want to see like
• 22:35
  dude, this is I've said this before,
• 22:36
  man. There is a fissure in the
• 22:37
  Democratic party. There is a fissure at
• 22:39
  least in terms of between the base and
• 22:41
  the leadership. That's part of it. And
• 22:44
  then the other part of it is and it
• 22:46
  falls in along similar uh uh camps, but
• 22:50
  this idea of like we want to hold Israel
• 22:52
  to account. We believe the Palestinian
• 22:54
  story versus, you know, the sort of
• 22:57
  mushmouth, well, Palestinians deserve
• 22:59
  rights to freedom and happiness, but we
• 23:01
  just have to go kill them because
• 23:02
  ultimately they just want to take
• 23:03
  Israel's side. There is a clear there's
• 23:06
  a clear contrast uh between these these
• 23:09
  various entities. And my belief is,
• 23:12
  listen, if we need these people for 2026
• 23:16
  and for some measure of subsequent
• 23:18
  elections, I could probably hold my nose
• 23:20
  and tolerate it to defeat MAGA because I
• 23:23
  do think defeating MAGA is the most
• 23:24
  important thing. But I will just be
• 23:26
  honest with you, I don't think you can
• 23:28
  make common cause intellectually and
• 23:30
  morally long-term with people who cannot
• 23:33
  reconcile with Israel's crimes. I don't
• 23:35
  think you can do that. And I don't think
• 23:37
  you should do that. I don't think you
• 23:39
  should do that. I really don't I I made
• 23:42
  up the po I made the point in my video
• 23:44
  that if you look you know following the
• 23:46
  New Deal the New Deal had this enormous
• 23:48
  influence obviously on society and and
• 23:50
  the and the working class and more and
• 23:52
  it had uh obviously enormously
• 23:55
  pronounced effects in a number of
• 23:57
  different ways. But the thing I want you
• 23:59
  to focus on is one of the tragedies of
• 24:01
  the New Deal was that a lot of what made
• 24:03
  the various democratic alliances as a
• 24:06
  voting block across the states possible
• 24:09
  to to you know create these large
• 24:10
  majorities obviously to make legislation
• 24:12
  like this even possible. But then you
• 24:14
  know the interests of some southern
• 24:16
  Democrat might not be the same as a
• 24:18
  northern Democrat or however you want to
• 24:20
  slice it. But they would kind of get
• 24:21
  along under the presumption that yes,
• 24:23
  sometimes there would be benefits for
• 24:26
  black people and other racial minorities
• 24:28
  or other kind of groups within New Deal
• 24:30
  expansion, but none of that was really
• 24:32
  guaranteed. And in fact, a lot of New
• 24:34
  Deal growth happened at the expense of
• 24:36
  civil rights. But what eventually
• 24:38
  happened with the Democratic party is as
• 24:40
  voting patterns changed as as I think
• 24:43
  demographics changed um the party
• 24:46
  decided to be a multi-racial coalition
• 24:49
  that was maximum on expanding the right
• 24:52
  to vote and expanding civil rights
• 24:54
  protections and this caused them a break
• 24:57
  with the Southern Democrats circa 1965.
• 25:00
  Now you can say that they made that
• 25:02
  choice for the because they had enough
• 25:04
  votes where that was that that new block
• 25:06
  that they were trying to um that new
• 25:09
  electorate that they were trying to put
• 25:11
  together.
• 25:12
  It was to their advantage to do so to
• 25:14
  make that switch. There was there were
• 25:15
  certain arguments to be made in that
• 25:17
  regard, but they nevertheless had to
• 25:19
  give up on Southern Democrats to do
• 25:21
  that. and they just didn't want to be in
• 25:22
  bit. You can't be a party that's a
• 25:24
  multi-racial multi- you know uh kind of
• 25:28
  coalition in that in the 1960s and then
• 25:30
  still be in business with you know the
• 25:32
  strong Thurmans of the world or
• 25:33
  whatever. So they made a break and I see
• 25:37
  a similar break with the the the parts
• 25:41
  of the leadership and then the parts of
• 25:42
  the donor class and then everyone else
• 25:45
  that cannot reconcile with the crimes of
• 25:47
  Israel. I I see a similar break coming
• 25:50
  with them. At least I I I think that a
• 25:52
  similar break should be coming with
• 25:53
  them. I don't know how you produce that.
• 25:54
  I don't know when that would be
• 25:55
  produced, but I don't understand how you
• 25:59
  can have a party that takes its own
• 26:01
  ethics in any way seriously and you just
• 26:04
  allow people within leadership to guide
• 26:07
  policy in a way that doesn't recognize
• 26:11
  extermination campaigns.
• 26:13
  How do you How do you do that? I don't
• 26:15
  know how you do that.
• 26:20
  Anyway, so Scott Galloway
• 26:23
  um you know there's many points I make
• 26:27
  in the video. He always talks about like
• 26:28
  genocide is like wiping out huge
• 26:31
  portions of the population and of course
• 26:33
  you know any death is bad and there's no
• 26:35
  small amount of death but like he's like
• 26:36
  well you know there was like these huge
• 26:38
  chunks of the population that were taken
• 26:40
  out in various other genocides and like
• 26:42
  that's true that's a thing that did
• 26:44
  happen. Um, but I I made the point which
• 26:46
  he he neglected to make which was like
• 26:48
  you look at Shrebanita where 8,000 men
• 26:50
  and boys were killed. That ended up
• 26:52
  being about 2.4% of the population.
• 26:54
  That's less than the population total
• 26:56
  that was killed in Gaza. Again, all of
• 26:58
  these discussions are macob and gross.
• 27:00
  And I don't even like having them. But
• 27:01
  such that mathematical numbers are the
• 27:04
  thing that would be a demarcating line,
• 27:05
  which they're not, but they were for
• 27:07
  Scott Galloway. He doesn't mention that
• 27:09
  one. And that one, the Shrebanita
• 27:11
  genocide, is the first uh continental
• 27:13
  European genocide since the Holocaust.
• 27:16
  And no one debates that. And and and
• 27:19
  that number at 2.4% is less than the
• 27:21
  aggregate total for Gaza. And then he's
• 27:23
  also like, "Oh, they let in vaccines,
• 27:25
  [ __ ] They weren't vaccinating
• 27:27
  the Palestinians. They were letting in
• 27:29
  aid groups who were begging to do it and
• 27:31
  had and were fought with friction the
• 27:34
  entire way. Like what?" And he's like,
• 27:35
  "Oh, and they're giving him 2500
• 27:37
  calories, you know, per meal per day."
• 27:39
  [ __ ] we know they did a starvation
• 27:41
  campaign. What the [ __ ] are you talking
• 27:43
  about?
• 27:45
  It's This is what I mean. It's like It's
• 27:47
  like imagine it rained yesterday and
• 27:50
  they want to tell you it didn't rain.
• 27:52
  Like, this is not rain. This is another
• 27:54
  thing, but it's not rain. And you're
• 27:56
  like,
• 27:58
  "It rained, dude. No, no, no. That's not
• 28:01
  rain. That's that's that's uh that's
• 28:02
  something else. So, it looks like rain,
• 28:04
  but it's not rain. And it really offends
• 28:06
  me when you call it rain. I don't care.
• 28:08
  You It's like, what? I don't care. I
• 28:11
  don't care that it offends you. This
• 28:12
  means nothing to me. You know, it's just
• 28:14
  absurd. I don't I don't quite get it.
• 28:19
  Uh, thoughts on Netanyahu's UN speech?
• 28:22
  Is he more despised globally than Trump?
• 28:24
  Could a new Israeli PM bring peace to
• 28:26
  the Middle East? I don't think so, dude.
• 28:27
  I mean, I think maybe Netanyahu is
• 28:30
  uniquely bad. I I I don't I'm not saying
• 28:32
  that everyone that could take his job is
• 28:34
  as bad as him. That's not quite my
• 28:36
  point. But I think Israeli society I
• 28:39
  mean speaking of people unwilling to
• 28:41
  account for their own crimes. Israeli
• 28:42
  society seems very much unwilling to
• 28:45
  take account of that.
• 28:48
  Um what did I think of the speech? From
• 28:50
  what I saw it was hostile. He was
• 28:52
  threatening to that he could blow up the
• 28:54
  place if he wanted to in a manner of
• 28:58
  speaking. As I mentioned, he he shouts
• 28:59
  out uh in in a reverse kind of way
• 29:02
  Hassan [ __ ] which was weird. You know,
• 29:05
  he made a the Hezbollah pedager joke,
• 29:07
  you know, and almost kind of intimated
• 29:09
  like we could not that we could do that
• 29:11
  again, but like we've got more tricks up
• 29:13
  our sleeve. I mean, dude, the guy the
• 29:16
  guy is one of the great butchers of our
• 29:19
  time, right? That's who he is. He's one
• 29:21
  of the great butchers of our time. And
• 29:24
  in any kind of just or sane world, he'd
• 29:27
  be behind bars or much worse than that.
• 29:30
  Um,
• 29:32
  we do not live in that kind of a world.
• 29:33
  Not right now anyway. Not not at the
• 29:35
  present moment and perhaps not ever, but
• 29:37
  certainly not now. Um,
• 29:40
  he is filled with impunity as so many
• 29:42
  Israelis are and is merely leadership
• 29:46
  is. He feels entitled to threaten, to
• 29:52
  attack, to intimidate. They were going
• 29:56
  through, did you see this? There was
• 29:57
  video of like um staff from Netanyahu's
• 30:01
  delegation that was going through and
• 30:03
  seeing which one which states had walked
• 30:05
  out and making a list because virtually,
• 30:08
  you know, the vast majority of the UN
• 30:09
  walked out and so they were trying to
• 30:11
  make a list to see who it was, you know.
• 30:16
  Um they're they're it's a it's they
• 30:18
  cannot convince you, dude. The Israelis
• 30:20
  have come to a place where they can
• 30:22
  they're not even trying to convince you.
• 30:24
  They just they just want to strongarm.
• 30:27
  It's just force. They just believe in
• 30:30
  force. Force of attack, force of death,
• 30:34
  force of um coercion of some kind. But
• 30:39
  it they they've given up on
• 30:42
  and I think in large part hearts and
• 30:43
  minds. I mean, there's some effort of
• 30:45
  them trying to claw that back, but I I
• 30:47
  think they're going to realize there's
• 30:47
  not much that can be done in that
• 30:49
  regard. And so now what they're doing is
• 30:50
  just just trying to coersse the world
• 30:52
  through various different ways in which
• 30:54
  that can be exercised. It's a broken
• 30:57
  it's a broken uh
• 31:01
  that I think that country is in deep
• 31:03
  need of um
• 31:08
  repair.
• 31:12
  thoughts on the state of Kanye West at
• 31:14
  this point. I mean, I've not kept in
• 31:15
  close observation of like what he's
• 31:18
  doing.
• 31:20
  Um, except to say that he's I I I I
• 31:23
  realize that he has apologized for his
• 31:25
  past mania
• 31:26
  and you know, you could take that for
• 31:28
  what it's worth. I suspect that there is
• 31:30
  something to be said for that that like
• 31:32
  he his drug use and God only knows what
• 31:33
  his habits were. Remember the dentist
• 31:35
  that was supposedly giving him nitrous?
• 31:36
  I mean, God only knows, right? you know,
• 31:39
  so I think some measure of grace is
• 31:41
  afforded to him, but not much. And
• 31:44
  certainly, I don't think he's made
• 31:46
  atonement for his insane insane racism,
• 31:49
  insane anti-semitism,
• 31:51
  you know, and then being allowed to go
• 31:54
  and tour. And people were like, well,
• 31:55
  he's the headliner of the tour. It's not
• 31:56
  like he can get pulled off. And sure, I
• 31:59
  mean, if people want to go see that
• 32:00
  thing, they can. But I think for me,
• 32:03
  having seen an era of artists that were
• 32:05
  at least under some kind of pre some
• 32:08
  kind of pressure to not do that kind of
• 32:10
  a thing,
• 32:12
  we live in an age of
• 32:16
  um moral decline
• 32:20
  where
• 32:23
  it's not like morality has utterly
• 32:25
  evaporated. In fact, there is great
• 32:27
  consternation about it. But the
• 32:33
  degree to which it could be a
• 32:35
  influencing factor in decisionmaking,
• 32:38
  the degree to which people felt a social
• 32:40
  responsibility to honor it, the degree
• 32:42
  to which it featured in our in
• 32:45
  conversations and then daily
• 32:46
  calculations, that has all just kind of
• 32:48
  declined. It's not evaporated. It's not
• 32:50
  gone, but it's declined. And I think you
• 32:55
  can see that kind of a thing. Like I
• 32:57
  don't understand. I I can respect that
• 32:59
  Kanye West is very very talented. I'm
• 33:00
  not here to make some kind of argument
• 33:02
  that he never made good music. That
• 33:03
  would be very very silly. But I would
• 33:06
  say that like, you know, people have
• 33:08
  like gotten into ways of life and then
• 33:12
  not thought about how the sausage is
• 33:14
  made or considered what would it mean
• 33:16
  for the circumstances that made me like
• 33:18
  this to change and then to like adjust
• 33:21
  their relationship to it. I've had to do
• 33:22
  that with MMA for a lot. you know, I
• 33:25
  don't have the same relationship to MMA
• 33:26
  that I had 10 years ago. I don't know
• 33:28
  how I could. I don't know how I could.
• 33:30
  And I see some people trying to do that
• 33:32
  and it's very very weird to me. It it
• 33:34
  makes you make moral accommodations or
• 33:37
  other kinds of accommodations that you
• 33:38
  otherwise would not make. And like when
• 33:41
  it's a choice between like uphold I mean
• 33:43
  and all of us are flawed. All of us make
• 33:44
  bad decisions. All of us have done bad
• 33:47
  things. I've done bad things. I'm sure
• 33:48
  in the future I'll do bad things. Like
• 33:50
  bad things like I can't get away from
• 33:51
  that. But at least trying to find a
• 33:53
  north star of personal and then social
• 33:56
  accountability. This has we are in an
• 33:58
  era of decline, a moral decline. And uh
• 34:04
  I don't think it's an accident that the
• 34:05
  leader of the free world is one of the
• 34:08
  chief purveyors of
• 34:11
  uh not decline himself but you know I
• 34:16
  mean this is the kind of environment
• 34:18
  that the leader of the free world
• 34:19
  fosters. He fosters a world where
• 34:22
  vandals are free to roam and looters are
• 34:25
  free to take.
• 34:29
  Look, a bit of a hypothetical here. If
• 34:31
  things go well and MAGA loses the
• 34:33
  midterms and election, what do you
• 34:35
  believe happens to everyone that
• 34:37
  supported this nonsense from the celebs
• 34:38
  to the politicians? It's a great
• 34:40
  question.
• 34:44
  I don't know.
• 34:50
  Um,
• 34:55
  I think it really depends on
• 34:59
  how bad things get between now and the
• 35:02
  midterms.
• 35:03
  I think it depends a lot on how bad
• 35:05
  things get between now and 2028
• 35:08
  and to what extent it becomes
• 35:11
  politically toxic to have been MAGA.
• 35:14
  Um, I also don't know what comes next
• 35:17
  after Trump dies to MAGA. I think it
• 35:20
  comes apart. I don't think those forces
• 35:22
  don't like I don't think they cease to
• 35:24
  exist, but they cease to exist as some
• 35:26
  kind of coalition. And I don't know
• 35:28
  really what happens to them. I don't
• 35:30
  think we're in a place yet where we can
• 35:33
  definitively say that um you know a big
• 35:37
  loss at the midterms turns being
• 35:40
  formerly MAGA into
• 35:43
  you know a place where all those people
• 35:45
  are going to earn approprium and
• 35:48
  ostracism. I don't think we're there
• 35:49
  yet. I will also say it's not I I cannot
• 35:52
  overemphasize this enough dude. All what
• 35:55
  the Democrats can talk about is just
• 35:57
  winning elections. But to me, like one
• 35:59
  of the reasons why the DSA candidates
• 36:00
  are at least more interesting is they
• 36:02
  also have a vision. Like there might be
• 36:04
  some uh I'm sure there are there are
• 36:06
  some centrist candidates who are doing
• 36:08
  better than progressive challengers in
• 36:10
  certain states. And maybe it's important
• 36:12
  that they win rather than the the
• 36:14
  alternative. And I can live with a world
• 36:15
  like that at least for right now. But
• 36:17
  the point I'm trying to make is dude
• 36:19
  none of this is going to count unless
• 36:21
  you can govern. Consider Zoron Mandani,
• 36:24
  right? Did you guys see some of the uh
• 36:26
  stuff he did this week and then some of
• 36:27
  the speeches that he made this week? And
• 36:29
  one of the speeches that he made, I
• 36:30
  forget where this was, it was some kind
• 36:32
  of panel he was sitting on. The point he
• 36:34
  was trying to make was if you want
• 36:35
  people to buy into government in terms
• 36:38
  of big picture stuff, big challenges,
• 36:40
  really tough ones that require some form
• 36:42
  of of electorate or social buyin. You
• 36:45
  know, you can't just go to them when
• 36:47
  it's time to sell them that. you have to
• 36:49
  do the other parts of governing,
• 36:51
  including the very micro parts of
• 36:52
  governing that make it possible. Namely,
• 36:55
  filling potholes, you know, um having
• 36:58
  the parks cleaned up and the water
• 37:00
  fountain works at the at the city tennis
• 37:02
  court or something along those lines,
• 37:04
  right? People can trust that the world
• 37:07
  around them and the small things and the
• 37:09
  government showing that a they can fix
• 37:11
  them and that they can do it in a
• 37:12
  responsive, you know, pretty quick way.
• 37:15
  This tells them that like that is what
• 37:18
  creates the runway for liftoff to the
• 37:21
  bigger kinds of political projects that
• 37:23
  you want to build attention and frankly
• 37:25
  a coalition around. Right? You have to
• 37:28
  do the the all the parts of governing,
• 37:30
  even the small parts. And then more than
• 37:32
  that, look at what he did yesterday
• 37:33
  where he announced there was going to be
• 37:34
  I think 70,000 tickets to go to the
• 37:36
  arts. Understand what mom Donnie has
• 37:39
  done. They put in child care to help
• 37:40
  families in that regard. They did uh
• 37:42
  during the summer they did they opened
• 37:44
  up like parks late and rec centers late
• 37:46
  so parents could go have like a date
• 37:49
  night or just you know just an evening
• 37:50
  off and that there would be all these
• 37:52
  resources to have kids would have a
• 37:53
  place to go and parents would have you
• 37:55
  know some degree of uh uh um relief but
• 37:59
  then also cleaning up all of these uh
• 38:03
  playgrounds and making the the water
• 38:04
  fountains usable and like making these
• 38:06
  facilities nice to create a more social
• 38:08
  environment and now promoting the arts
• 38:11
  on top of it, right? And then making all
• 38:13
  of this accessible. It's the most
• 38:14
  pro-social
• 38:18
  governing in a world of fraying
• 38:20
  socialization
• 38:22
  I've seen in quite some time. It's not
• 38:25
  just about we got to fix small things.
• 38:27
  We have to fix the kind of fraying
• 38:30
  social fabric that we can. And we don't
• 38:33
  want overreach from the government in
• 38:34
  that regard. But I don't think promotion
• 38:36
  of the arts really qualifies as such.
• 38:38
  The point I'm trying to make is I don't
• 38:40
  expect everyone to be mom Donnie. New
• 38:41
  York City is New York City. He is one
• 38:43
  man. But do you see the difference? Look
• 38:45
  at his popularity. If you actually look
• 38:47
  at his numbers a lot of times after an
• 38:49
  election there'll be a bump and then
• 38:50
  they kind of level off. His are still
• 38:52
  going up.
• 38:54
  His are still there. What is this 6
• 38:56
  months later? No, no, no more than that.
• 38:57
  Nine months later, whatever it's been
• 38:59
  like his are still going up. That is
• 39:02
  very unusual, but it's not surprising
• 39:04
  because he is governing in a way big and
• 39:07
  small. aggressive and unimportant
• 39:11
  promotion of the city culture, promotion
• 39:13
  of the arts, making the arts accessible
• 39:16
  no matter your background, working class
• 39:17
  or whatever it may be. And creating a
• 39:20
  generally pro- family, pro-social
• 39:22
  environment with the way in which you
• 39:24
  are pursuing legislation. Dude, that's
• 39:27
  why that's how Democrats win. That's how
• 39:30
  the left wins. That's how that is how so
• 39:33
  just getting back to power because Trump
• 39:35
  is such a [ __ ] I mean, honestly, like
• 39:38
  he's doing the work for the Dems. That
• 39:40
  I'm not saying it doesn't mean anything.
• 39:41
  It it can mean quite a bit, obviously,
• 39:42
  but
• 39:45
  I don't know what happens to MAGA until
• 39:47
  I see what happens to the Dems.
• 39:49
  There has to be a major contrast.
• 39:53
  Do they have that in them?
• 39:57
  I think your take on Cali and the Warner
• 40:00
  Brothers merger is wrong. Okay. Cali has
• 40:02
  no leverage, zero drop job growth except
• 40:06
  the laughable inhome care assistance and
• 40:09
  health care. Uh I I appreciate you
• 40:11
  pushing back, but I just simply don't
• 40:13
  agree. They had a strong hand. I've seen
• 40:16
  now uh Alvaro Badoya, who was the former
• 40:18
  FTC commissioner, also an attorney,
• 40:20
  speak to this fact. But the fact that
• 40:21
  they won on many arguments and got the
• 40:24
  TTRO passed showed you that they had it.
• 40:26
  They they freaked out at the idea of
• 40:29
  Paramount leaving, but it was never a
• 40:31
  real bluff. Sorry, it was a bluff to
• 40:33
  begin with. It was never real. Just the
• 40:35
  mechanics of what it would take to get
• 40:37
  them out of there um would have taken
• 40:40
  years, years, and years to do, which
• 40:42
  they can now just do anyway on the sly.
• 40:45
  So, you're not really protecting
• 40:46
  anything if that's a thing that they
• 40:48
  really want to do. More to the point, I
• 40:50
  just want you to wrap your head around
• 40:51
  the idea about two things. one, if you
• 40:54
  are cool with a a company threatening
• 40:58
  the government such that that makes them
• 40:59
  entitled to antitrust exemptions, we
• 41:02
  don't believe in governing the same way.
• 41:04
  And I think the second point that I
• 41:06
  would make is, dude, this is just dem
• 41:08
  logic on steroids, guys. We're going to
• 41:12
  talk a big game. When it comes time to
• 41:14
  deliver, we're going to do almost, not
• 41:16
  quite, but almost nothing. And then
• 41:18
  we're going to try and tell you there
• 41:19
  was just nothing we really could have
• 41:21
  done. [ __ ] that [ __ ] I'm not tolerating
• 41:24
  this anymore. I'm not tolerating it. I'm
• 41:26
  not tolerating it from a party that
• 41:29
  thinks that has made the art of
• 41:31
  surrendering part of its culture. Nope.
• 41:34
  Nope. Nope. Don't buy it. Not going to
• 41:37
  be bullied by it. Not going to be
• 41:39
  intimidated by it. No sir. If they had
• 41:42
  lost on the TTRO, we'd have a different
• 41:44
  conversation. But they won on it. They
• 41:46
  won on that whole thing. And very and on
• 41:47
  multiple different levels, they won
• 41:49
  that. They had a hot hand to play. And
• 41:51
  at a bare minimum, even if you wanted to
• 41:53
  make a deal, make a better deal, right?
• 41:56
  Make a better deal. Even if you had to
• 41:58
  say, "Listen, we are not going to pursue
• 42:00
  this, but you got to come to the table
• 42:01
  correctly." They didn't do any of that.
• 42:03
  They didn't do any of that. And there
• 42:05
  was public pressure from from Governor
• 42:07
  Gavin Newsome, from Basera, from Bass,
• 42:10
  and then Bonsa obviously just punted in
• 42:12
  the end himself. Dude, this is a party
• 42:14
  that is incapable of going to the mat
• 42:18
  for important challenges. It has no
• 42:20
  theory of governance. It doesn't know
• 42:22
  what it wants to do, right? It doesn't
• 42:24
  have clear for mo for the most part
• 42:25
  doesn't have a clear sense about what it
• 42:27
  wants to do. And more importantly, has
• 42:29
  no appetite for battle.
• 42:32
  Nope. [ __ ] all that. Nope. Not buying
• 42:35
  it. Mm-
• 42:38
  Are you God damn it? Are you open Are
• 42:41
  you open to doing more adversarialish
• 42:43
  convos? Yes. With the right kind of
• 42:45
  person who's interesting enough? Sure.
• 42:47
  Yeah. right now I'm kind of just like
• 42:49
  having to seek out what is interesting
• 42:52
  to me. Um,
• 42:55
  and you know guys, I mean I mean I'm
• 42:57
  also trying to cover MMA full-time
• 43:01
  while doing this. Like it's hard. It's
• 43:04
  hard to again I've been asked to do
• 43:06
  debates a few times and I'm not opposed
• 43:08
  to it but until I can cut some things
• 43:10
  out of my life I don't I just don't have
• 43:12
  the time to I don't have the time to
• 43:14
  prep for that [ __ ] Dude, yesterday I
• 43:16
  had to, you know, obviously get the kid
• 43:18
  up, take him to school, blah blah blah.
• 43:19
  I mean, wife's here, but I still have to
• 43:20
  do most of She does the afternoon, I do
• 43:22
  the morning. And uh and then I had,
• 43:26
  let's see, I had to do the rundown for
• 43:28
  MK. I had to do the presentation and
• 43:30
  then re-upload the gable breakdown. I
• 43:34
  had to do the live chat and then I had
• 43:36
  to do the video on Scott Galloway. Like
• 43:38
  just all these different things in all
• 43:40
  these different directions. I have to
• 43:41
  shoot it, edit it, the whole nine yards.
• 43:43
  like it's just it's too much. It's too
• 43:45
  much. So like having a conversation with
• 43:47
  someone adversarialish. These are one of
• 43:49
  these things where it's like um
• 43:51
  once I get further into the reading, I
• 43:53
  tend to find people like that and then
• 43:55
  also, you know, having the time to prep
• 43:57
  for things like that. It's just tough.
• 43:58
  It's tough. But yes, I'm very open to
• 43:59
  it. Those tend to be the better
• 44:01
  conversations anyway, you know.
• 44:04
  Uh frustrated with both parties. Do you
• 44:06
  maybe maybe in the same way do you think
• 44:08
  we'll see an independent president in
• 44:10
  our lifetime who changes things for the
• 44:11
  better? I have no idea.
• 44:16
  Um
• 44:18
  I don't know.
• 44:20
  I don't I don't know what our future
• 44:22
  governance looks like.
• 44:25
  I wish I could tell you that. Oh, I
• 44:26
  think that this is absolutely a thing. I
• 44:28
  don't know that I believe that it is. Um
• 44:32
  this is what I mean. Like, oh, it's
• 44:33
  going to be great to see MAGA defeated
• 44:35
  at the ballot box. Yeah, but if you
• 44:36
  don't govern in a way that seals the
• 44:39
  vict that to me is just knocking them
• 44:41
  down.
• 44:43
  B. Hit him with a shot. But what's the
• 44:45
  coffin nail? The coffin nail is
• 44:46
  governance.
• 44:51
  Oh Jesus. Oops. Hold on. Mixing
• 44:53
  channels. Don't you think there's a wide
• 44:56
  open space for an obnoxious Kins
• 44:58
  Kolinsky like lefty on the mic in MMA?
• 45:00
  Yes. Being MAGA is just unoriginal now.
• 45:03
  Yes. I don't know if you mean as a
• 45:04
  fighter or a media personality. problem
• 45:06
  with doing this kind of thing. I don't
• 45:07
  know if you guys have noticed, I'm much
• 45:09
  more active on my politics channel now
• 45:11
  than I am my my uh by my politics um
• 45:15
  Twitter account than I am my my my
• 45:17
  normal Twitter account. And it's because
• 45:19
  dude, like
• 45:21
  the fan base in MMA has gotten into a
• 45:24
  point where I can't I don't know what to
• 45:26
  do about it. Like let me give you an
• 45:27
  example. I'll take someone who comes up
• 45:31
  on my feed on my MMA channel and I cover
• 45:33
  I mean I I subscribe to or I'm you know
• 45:36
  I follow a bunch of different kinds of
• 45:37
  interest news you know tech reviews you
• 45:40
  know all kinds of stuff and I'll just
• 45:42
  retweet someone who makes an interesting
• 45:43
  point of someone I like and this has
• 45:45
  happened numerous times somebody in my
• 45:48
  in the mentions will will will [ __ ]
• 45:50
  tweet at them some version of like well
• 45:53
  don't you think all lives matter and
• 45:56
  it's like oh my god bro and I'll be
• 45:58
  tagged in it and then the person I like
• 46:00
  will respond to that person and I get
• 46:01
  tagged and it's so [ __ ] embarrassing
• 46:04
  and to the point where like I just can't
• 46:05
  share [ __ ] because with people I I like
• 46:08
  whose work I like because it just gets
• 46:10
  picked up by the [ __ ] dumbest bottom
• 46:13
  feeders. Like it just is the the the
• 46:17
  I don't know how to say it, dude. Like
• 46:18
  the tax on stupidity you have to pay now
• 46:21
  to engage in some of these platforms
• 46:22
  with some of these audiences. It's a
• 46:24
  little too much for me. I can't even
• 46:26
  like retweet an author I like because
• 46:29
  there's like the response is just in and
• 46:31
  it's like half of it's misspelled. I'm
• 46:33
  like, "Oh my god, it's it's
• 46:36
  embarrassing. It's embarrassing to be
• 46:37
  around that [ __ ] Not MMA fandom per se,
• 46:40
  but like that particular kind of it, you
• 46:42
  know, because I know there's a lot of
• 46:43
  great MMA fans and I I I've met them
• 46:45
  all. I've been one. Like, yeah, they
• 46:47
  exist, but on some of these online
• 46:49
  spaces, it is [ __ ] awful." And also
• 46:52
  just all the rage that was sent my way,
• 46:55
  you know, for trying to tell the truth
• 46:57
  about MMA, about how right-wing had
• 46:58
  become and just how much it soured me on
• 47:02
  how, you know, unreceptive the entire
• 47:05
  community was to it. It changed my
• 47:07
  perspective. I'm not trying to convince
• 47:09
  anyone in MMA about anything anymore. I
• 47:11
  don't care. You know what I mean? Like,
• 47:14
  I told everyone what the truth was and
• 47:16
  they hated it. And
• 47:19
  uh, okay, don't worry. message received.
• 47:21
  I'd rather take this to an audience
• 47:24
  that, you know, um not merely is more
• 47:27
  receptive to it, but that I can
• 47:28
  intellectually engage with. You know,
• 47:31
  that's just that's not even possible uh
• 47:33
  for the most part in some of these
• 47:34
  combat sports spaces. So, like, you
• 47:37
  know, if someone wants to deal with all
• 47:40
  of that [ __ ] trying to convince an
• 47:42
  audience that's largely not convincible,
• 47:45
  be my be my guest. But I don't know how
• 47:47
  much interest I have. I'm going to do my
• 47:49
  thing politically in political
• 47:51
  directions. And there might be some MMA
• 47:52
  overlap with that, but I'm not in any
• 47:55
  like I could not be clear about this. I
• 47:57
  am not in any way interested in trying
• 48:00
  to convince anybody in MMA anymore. Let
• 48:02
  them think what they want to think. It's
• 48:04
  I don't care. I don't care. It's not
• 48:08
  my ability to affect opinion is limited
• 48:12
  to to to to nothing. And I don't think
• 48:16
  it's a productive use of my time trying
• 48:18
  to convince people like that.
• 48:22
  How did Western media framing change
• 48:24
  after October 7th? And did all that and
• 48:26
  did that shift obscure or amplify the
• 48:29
  deeper historical context
• 48:31
  behind Israel and Gaza? Say it again.
• 48:33
  How did Western media framing change
• 48:34
  after October 7th? I mean, dude, I'll be
• 48:36
  honest with you. Like, it didn't there
• 48:38
  was, you know, the Is it Where is that
• 48:40
  book? Is it here?
• 48:43
  I had it here before.
• 48:47
  I forget where I put it, but um uh Adam
• 48:49
  Johnson's book, How to Sell a Genocide.
• 48:52
  And initially, one one of the less
• 48:54
  there's many lessons of that book. The
• 48:56
  the main one being that
• 48:59
  anti-Palestinian bias is not merely some
• 49:01
  kind of vague editorial accusation. It's
• 49:04
  an empirical reality that you can
• 49:06
  measure. That's sort of one of the
• 49:08
  conclusions. But the other conclusion
• 49:09
  that um you see happened there is that a
• 49:13
  lot of the cover that was run for Israel
• 49:15
  within western media were not practices
• 49:18
  that they had invented on the fly.
• 49:22
  There might have been editorial
• 49:23
  directives that were you know sent down
• 49:25
  from on high. That is true that fact
• 49:27
  that's well documented. But a lot of
• 49:30
  those practices were longstanding. They
• 49:32
  just got turned up a little bit. In
• 49:34
  other words, there was already a bit of
• 49:35
  a playbook for this kind of a thing. And
• 49:39
  that is what enabled them to do that.
• 49:40
  Now you're asking
• 49:43
  how did western media framing change
• 49:44
  after October 7th? I honestly believe
• 49:47
  that access to social media in this
• 49:50
  regard I think it was helpful as well as
• 49:52
  the media coverage from entities outside
• 49:56
  of western media and in fact the assault
• 49:58
  that some of those entities faced to.
• 50:00
  So, you know, for example, Al Jazzer uh
• 50:03
  cameramen and you know, reporters being
• 50:06
  ritually slaughtered, you know, that
• 50:07
  kind of a thing. Uh Gaza was the biggest
• 50:10
  graveyard for journalists of any
• 50:12
  conflict uh any military conflict, I
• 50:15
  think, dating back like 200 years. It's
• 50:17
  more than any all of them who died, I
• 50:18
  think, in in the entire 20th century.
• 50:20
  Like some insane Brown University did a
• 50:23
  study on this. An insane insane amount
• 50:25
  of of death was seen there. I think the
• 50:28
  most since the Civil War for
• 50:29
  journalists. So like I think it's all of
• 50:32
  that. It was that the the there you know
• 50:34
  eventually some of the larger media
• 50:36
  organs had to make concessions a bit
• 50:38
  over time. Some were better than others.
• 50:40
  The Washington Post was better than the
• 50:41
  New York Times in this regard. But it
• 50:43
  was really I'm not going to say
• 50:44
  alternative media as such. Although I do
• 50:46
  think they played a pretty substantive
• 50:47
  role, but I wouldn't say that the
• 50:49
  framing has changed. Not even changed
• 50:51
  within leadership. I mean, Biden helped
• 50:54
  make the genocide possible and then
• 50:55
  Trump is, you know, presiding over a
• 50:58
  ceasefire that's not really real, but
• 51:00
  the policy from the government has not
• 51:02
  changed. Um, there's the ground swell of
• 51:05
  change that you can see everywhere that
• 51:08
  is real. Ask those people how they came
• 51:10
  about it. My journey is a little bit
• 51:11
  different because my mom is Lebanese.
• 51:13
  Things about Israel that are now
• 51:15
  commonplace. my mom was telling me from
• 51:17
  my earliest days. This is not, you know,
• 51:19
  this was it's it's weird for me to
• 51:21
  finally see that the rest of the world
• 51:22
  come around, but it wasn't new to me per
• 51:23
  se. Um,
• 51:26
  does that obscure amplify the deeper
• 51:29
  historical context? Well, see, it it it
• 51:31
  doesn't obscure it. It actually
• 51:32
  amplifies it. And this is the point I
• 51:34
  made about Scott Galloway. The reason he
• 51:37
  can't reconcile with Israel's crimes is
• 51:41
  because if you pull on that string about
• 51:44
  why they're doing that, why why are you
• 51:46
  having this ferocious military response?
• 51:49
  Well, it's in response to October 7th.
• 51:51
  And if you begin to pull on that string,
• 51:53
  like, well, why was Sinoir and Hamas
• 51:55
  doing that such a, you know, in its own
• 51:59
  way, much smaller than what Israel did
• 52:01
  to it, but in its own way, this
• 52:02
  destructive, violent act on October 7th.
• 52:05
  And then you begin to pull on this
• 52:06
  string and then you're like,"Well, why
• 52:07
  is there a Palestinian resistance? And
• 52:10
  what what when did Hamas get started and
• 52:12
  why did the government of Israel support
• 52:14
  it? And how long has this occupation
• 52:16
  been going on and what happened to the
• 52:18
  two states?" Like you you end it ends up
• 52:20
  taking you to a place where you have to
• 52:22
  then ask questions about the entire
• 52:25
  project of that nation and how it came
• 52:28
  to be and and the Nagba that happened as
• 52:31
  a result of it. It forces you to
• 52:33
  confront, if you really pull enough on
• 52:35
  it, it forces you to confront the real
• 52:38
  underlying cause of of of much of this
• 52:41
  strife. Um, and I they're not ready to
• 52:45
  do that.
• 52:50
  I bring this up because you're now
• 52:52
  seeing a shift in celebrities
• 52:53
  acknowledging what is happening in
• 52:54
  Israel and Gaza. Oh, and speaking out.
• 52:56
  Yes. And distancing themselves from it.
• 52:58
  There's a pendulum swing taking place.
• 53:00
  Yes, it's a fair point.
• 53:02
  When I was a kid, there was some of
• 53:03
  this. I bring this up all the time. I'm
• 53:05
  not saying he's some hero, but I'll I'll
• 53:07
  never forget this. When John McEnroe
• 53:09
  refused to play in a parttheid South
• 53:11
  Africa, uh, and he could have. And so
• 53:15
  there is some precedent for this. You
• 53:16
  used to see a little bit more of Beasty
• 53:18
  Boys. I don't know if you guys remember
• 53:19
  this. Um, shouts to the Beasty Boys.
• 53:21
  Rest in peace to um they're not all
• 53:23
  here, but they were big on um
• 53:27
  um
• 53:30
  they were big on what the they were was
• 53:32
  it Mongolian rights? What was the
• 53:34
  festival they used to do?
• 53:37
  Let me look that up. You know what? I
• 53:38
  see Hassan sometimes look stuff up when
• 53:40
  he's on the air and I never want to do
• 53:42
  it because it derails me. beast boys
• 53:51
  Tibet that's what it was uh Adam Ya who
• 53:54
  was MCA co-unded the Miller rapa fund in
• 53:57
  '94 after converting to Buddhism and
• 53:59
  studying Tibetan culture the nonprofit
• 54:02
  organization raised awareness and funds
• 54:04
  concerning human rights and Chinese
• 54:05
  occupation of Tibet so that was a big
• 54:07
  thing in the '9s um was that so there is
• 54:10
  some precedent for that but I just think
• 54:11
  that like yeah you're starting to more
• 54:14
  celebrities speak out about it. I do
• 54:15
  think that some of them, of course, many
• 54:17
  of them have no interest one way or the
• 54:18
  other and they're doing it just for some
• 54:20
  kind of, you know, image sake, uh, to be
• 54:24
  on the right side of history. You know,
• 54:25
  they don't really care. But I I would
• 54:27
  just say the more social forces that we
• 54:30
  can employ to push back the again, they
• 54:33
  will abridge our civil liberties if we
• 54:36
  let them, the Israeli uh lobby in this
• 54:40
  country. Um, it's important to get as
• 54:41
  many voices, powerful or otherwise, to
• 54:43
  make that possible.
• 54:46
  Someone says, "Remember in an interview
• 54:47
  Gatei said if he wasn't a fighter, he'd
• 54:49
  be a social worker because he likes
• 54:50
  helping people. Now he's shilling for
• 54:52
  MAGA as they tear families apart. No
• 54:55
  frontal lobe development." This person
• 54:57
  writes, "Um,
• 55:00
  yeah. Yeah, but again, like with MMA,
• 55:06
  I don't care anymore. I'm I'm I'm being
• 55:08
  dead. I don't I could not imagine,
• 55:11
  you know, I'll tell the rest of the
• 55:13
  world what's happening within MMA if
• 55:15
  they care again, you know, because they
• 55:17
  care during the White House card. I
• 55:19
  don't know if they will again, but if
• 55:20
  they will, um, and then maybe things
• 55:22
  improve, right? There's there's a new
• 55:23
  story to tell. Uh, I'm happy to do that.
• 55:27
  But I am not I don't like and sometimes
• 55:29
  I'll get people within MMA who tweet me
• 55:32
  on my political account. I'm not
• 55:34
  responding to them. I don't have any
• 55:36
  desire to engage with that at all. Like,
• 55:40
  y'all want to believe dumbass [ __ ]
• 55:42
  despite people spending [ __ ] years of
• 55:45
  their life trying to talk you out of it
• 55:47
  and then spending now all this time
• 55:49
  watching that watching that worldview
• 55:52
  which got a chance to do whatever it
• 55:54
  wanted unfettered utterly collapse under
• 55:56
  the weight of its own comic absurdity
• 55:58
  and failure. And
• 56:02
  let him I don't care. I I I honestly Oh,
• 56:05
  fighter X says so and so and believes so
• 56:07
  and so. I don't care. I don't care.
• 56:10
  They're It's not worth my time.
• 56:15
  LK all day. I don't know what that
• 56:16
  means, but thank you for the donation.
• 56:20
  What would you say to a 30-year-old male
• 56:21
  who knows politics is important to keep
• 56:24
  up with, but doesn't know where to start
• 56:26
  and doesn't know who to trust? Great
• 56:28
  question. Great question.
• 56:31
  Um,
• 56:37
  they say all politics is local.
• 56:40
  If you don't know who to trust, you can
• 56:42
  start by seeing who's making a
• 56:44
  difference in your local community. I
• 56:46
  mean this sincerely. You can literally
• 56:48
  get a front row seat to it. 100% you can
• 56:52
  get it. Um, now in places like where I
• 56:55
  live, it's just one party that tends to
• 56:57
  control everything. But depending on
• 56:58
  where you live, that may not be the
• 57:00
  case. Or there may be various different
• 57:02
  neighborhood or other kinds of school or
• 57:04
  other advisory boards that have a real
• 57:06
  mixed kind of put together situation.
• 57:08
  You could then begin to see um what
• 57:10
  issues do they care about? What did they
• 57:12
  deliver on? What did they [ __ ] up? Who
• 57:14
  was responsible for that? And you could
• 57:16
  begin to build out a worldview or at
• 57:18
  least some kind of understanding of the
• 57:20
  world around you. Let's say maybe that's
• 57:21
  a better way to put it from there. All
• 57:23
  politics is local. It doesn't have to be
• 57:25
  just your town. It can be your state. It
• 57:26
  can be, you know, some area of
• 57:29
  geographic proximity that's of concern
• 57:30
  to you. And I think you can start from
• 57:32
  there. And you can begin to say like,
• 57:34
  you know, I want to understand the
• 57:37
  decision-making that happens around me
• 57:39
  that affects my life. The best place to
• 57:42
  start is the one right in front of you.
• 57:44
  Truly, I mean that. And if you don't
• 57:45
  know who's right, do your best to make
• 57:47
  an ascert uh, you know, to ascertain the
• 57:49
  situation and then go from there. I
• 57:52
  think also what I would say is the same
• 57:54
  kind of rule is going to apply to media.
• 57:56
  Now this is different these days because
• 57:59
  local media has been so decimated. But
• 58:01
  to the extent you can find local media
• 58:03
  that will be by far your best bet.
• 58:06
  They're going to know people better.
• 58:08
  They're going to know the community
• 58:09
  better. They're going to know the
• 58:10
  situation better. And again, there's
• 58:11
  this whole problem with local media. I
• 58:13
  fully grant. But I honestly believe if I
• 58:15
  didn't know where to start and I didn't
• 58:17
  know who to trust and I didn't know what
• 58:18
  to do, I would start like that. Pol all
• 58:21
  politics is local. Start with the world
• 58:24
  in front of you and then build from
• 58:25
  there on out. And that's both in terms
• 58:28
  of who's running for office, what
• 58:30
  changes that they're implementing, um
• 58:32
  who's covering that, you know, and then
• 58:34
  begin to see who is talking about these
• 58:37
  issues honestly, who gets predictions
• 58:40
  are harder to make, but you know, whose
• 58:41
  general view about what makes things
• 58:44
  work or doesn't is proving to be true
• 58:46
  over time. And then you can begin to
• 58:47
  sort of like put all of this together.
• 58:50
  Excuse me.
• 58:54
  Did you see Prime Minister Carney
• 58:55
  admitting to the New York Times that the
• 58:57
  Canadian government has modeled in
• 58:58
  response to a potential US invasion just
• 59:00
  in case? Yes. Why wouldn't they? Why
• 59:03
  wouldn't they? You know how foolish
• 59:05
  you'd have to be to be a Canadian
• 59:06
  military general and not think about
• 59:08
  what like, okay, if they invade us, what
• 59:11
  does that look like? How do they do it?
• 59:13
  How do they take over? How do they
• 59:15
  capture territory? And did you see what
• 59:17
  they came to? The answer is that uh the
• 59:22
  Canadian military realizes of course
• 59:24
  they have no ability to resist us if we
• 59:26
  wanted to take it. Canada doesn't really
• 59:27
  have an army in the same way or a
• 59:29
  military I should say in the same way
• 59:30
  that we do. Um they would easily be
• 59:32
  defeated and and everybody knows that.
• 59:34
  That's sort of what Trump does all his
• 59:35
  chest. Trump loves to be a [ __ ] bully
• 59:37
  to easy targets, right? That's what he
• 59:39
  does, especially within his own
• 59:40
  hemisphere. He's such a [ __ ] [ __ ]
• 59:43
  But um so what they surmised was that
• 59:46
  what would be much more difficult for
• 59:47
  them is that the you would have pockets
• 59:49
  of resistance, armed Canadians
• 59:51
  particularly in more remote areas acting
• 59:54
  in ways like the Mujahaden or you know
• 59:57
  even uh you know just more decentralized
• 1:00:00
  militias that have that kind of uh you
• 1:00:03
  know drone attacks that kind of a thing
• 1:00:04
  and they thought that would be the most
• 1:00:06
  important threat that Canadians could
• 1:00:07
  offer. Yeah dude we live in a [ __ ] up
• 1:00:09
  world. This is what I mean about the
• 1:00:11
  previous question. How do I tell them
• 1:00:12
  this election is the most important? I
• 1:00:14
  think if you just tell them this
• 1:00:15
  election is the most important, it'll
• 1:00:17
  just be in one ear, out the other. Tell
• 1:00:19
  them that the people we have elected are
• 1:00:21
  trying to destroy it from the inside out
• 1:00:22
  in ways that has never happened before,
• 1:00:25
  probably in American history. Yeah. Tell
• 1:00:27
  them that.
• 1:00:32
  Oops.
• 1:00:34
  on
• 1:00:39
  thoughts on Max Blumenthal having his
• 1:00:41
  phones confiscated when he returned to
• 1:00:42
  the US after covering the Ayatollah's
• 1:00:44
  funeral in I in Iran. Yeah, deeply
• 1:00:47
  concerning. Uh not again one of these
• 1:00:49
  things where I just feel like if you're
• 1:00:50
  going to travel and you're a political
• 1:00:52
  reporter, you should have a burner phone
• 1:00:56
  uh or a burner computer or all of them.
• 1:00:58
  If there's anything else that you're not
• 1:01:01
  like you don't don't travel with a main
• 1:01:03
  one if you can avoid at all avoid it is
• 1:01:04
  what I would say is partly that. But of
• 1:01:07
  course dude this is a guy who reports on
• 1:01:09
  the evils of US hegemony US empire. He
• 1:01:14
  reports on the you know uh and and and
• 1:01:19
  all of that which that entails and the
• 1:01:23
  US government is obviously especially
• 1:01:24
  under Trump is going to be
• 1:01:26
  extraordinarily hostile to it. Does it
• 1:01:28
  portend the confus, you know, does it
• 1:01:30
  portend an abridgement of speech and
• 1:01:32
  then media freedoms? I don't know if
• 1:01:34
  we're in that part yet, but clearly
• 1:01:36
  they're trying to send a signal too,
• 1:01:37
  right? Like what they want to do,
• 1:01:40
  clearly what they what the Trump
• 1:01:41
  administration wants to do is
• 1:01:42
  prosecuting media is, unless they can
• 1:01:44
  just get the rules changed, is a little
• 1:01:45
  harder. but prosecuting any kind of
• 1:01:48
  activism or anything that they see as in
• 1:01:51
  any way aiding
• 1:01:53
  any kind of actual movement or political
• 1:01:57
  organizing. They're going after that.
• 1:01:59
  They got the guy from Spain. What was
• 1:02:00
  his name? The Palestinian um
• 1:02:04
  well both journalist and to an extent a
• 1:02:06
  benefactor as well. What's his name? I
• 1:02:08
  forget his name. And the Spanish
• 1:02:09
  extradited him to the US. This is a
• 1:02:12
  clear-cut case of that. or look at NSPM7
• 1:02:14
  where what they're trying to do is, you
• 1:02:16
  know, getting speech is a little harder,
• 1:02:18
  right? It's a lot tougher of a thing,
• 1:02:20
  but getting political organizing,
• 1:02:22
  getting activism, getting they want to
• 1:02:24
  arrest protesters. That was a new uh
• 1:02:26
  wrinkle that came out this week. that is
• 1:02:28
  a little bit more under current law
• 1:02:29
  anyway a little bit more doable
• 1:02:31
  especially you know oh there's these uh
• 1:02:33
  there was the shooting at the outside of
• 1:02:34
  the ICE facility and people are getting
• 1:02:36
  50 20 30 years for various forms of
• 1:02:39
  extra conspiracy related to this NSPM7
• 1:02:42
  um um edict
• 1:02:46
  this is making prosecution of those
• 1:02:49
  kinds of political activities much more
• 1:02:51
  possible so what they're trying to find
• 1:02:53
  probably is evidence of that within his
• 1:02:55
  phone to what extent is there any kind
• 1:02:56
  of political organizing
• 1:02:58
  more than just I'm writing unflattering
• 1:02:59
  things about US empire. And I suspect
• 1:03:02
  that's a huge part of it.
• 1:03:04
  Thoughts on Sha trashing Mackmore,
• 1:03:07
  calling him a grifter, and saying he
• 1:03:08
  ain't [ __ ]
• 1:03:10
  and then promptly fumbles eyes in the
• 1:03:13
  beauty of the beholder. I don't know
• 1:03:15
  what that last part is. I mean, yeah,
• 1:03:17
  dude. Like,
• 1:03:19
  guys, there I don't understand. Are
• 1:03:22
  there an insufficient number of places
• 1:03:24
  by which to get Brendan shop criticism
• 1:03:26
  on the internet? Do you have to come to
• 1:03:28
  me for that?
• 1:03:31
  Obviously, I don't agree. You know,
• 1:03:34
  that's true, but Cali is declining and
• 1:03:36
  is antagonizing the one thing keeping
• 1:03:38
  them afloat already. San Francisco Tech,
• 1:03:40
  you will reach critical mass eventually.
• 1:03:42
  I recognize talking about the situation
• 1:03:44
  in California um with Paramount.
• 1:03:46
  recognize these are delicate situations.
• 1:03:48
  And the reality is the one thing I will
• 1:03:50
  say in the AG's defense is that the real
• 1:03:53
  job there was supposed to be done by
• 1:03:56
  um the federal government and they just
• 1:03:58
  abandoned it and and it left the states
• 1:04:00
  in a in a in an unenviable position. I I
• 1:04:03
  recognize that. Um but we cannot live in
• 1:04:06
  a world where large corporations can
• 1:04:09
  extort the state out of punishment. I
• 1:04:13
  just think that's a line in the sand we
• 1:04:14
  just should never be crossing.
• 1:04:20
  You think Warner Brothers will still
• 1:04:22
  produce diverse films like Sinners and
• 1:04:24
  Barbie or will we see less of those
• 1:04:27
  under this merger and thought on
• 1:04:29
  thoughts on Elon being an investor?
• 1:04:31
  First of all, remember who's funding for
• 1:04:34
  first of all Elon might be a funder guy.
• 1:04:36
  Remember he was hostile. Okay. So, one
• 1:04:38
  of the funny things that happened with
• 1:04:39
  Mom Donnie when he gives away 70,000
• 1:04:41
  tickets to the opera for average New
• 1:04:43
  Yorkers, people were noticing. It's
• 1:04:46
  like, "Wow, you mean to tell me the
• 1:04:48
  immigrant here is the one who is
• 1:04:50
  promoting Western culture?" I've been
• 1:04:52
  trying to tell you guys some of the very
• 1:04:54
  best Americans are immigrants because
• 1:04:56
  they are strivvers to be the best uh
• 1:04:59
  Americans. That's what they do. That's
• 1:05:02
  what they're here to do. Oh, they're
• 1:05:03
  here to take. Yeah, if you're a [ __ ]
• 1:05:04
  idiot, that's what you think, right?
• 1:05:06
  They are many of them, many many many of
• 1:05:08
  them especially the professional class
• 1:05:10
  they are strivvers for American
• 1:05:12
  identity. They are the ones that do the
• 1:05:14
  best about representing what we do well.
• 1:05:16
  So to me it is no accident that you have
• 1:05:18
  an immigrant doing that. But the point I
• 1:05:19
  want to make was you saw people being
• 1:05:21
  like wow you know here is the left
• 1:05:22
  really and a socialist promoting the
• 1:05:24
  arts. You know they beat the
• 1:05:25
  conservatives to it. They didn't beat
• 1:05:27
  the conservatives to it. The
• 1:05:28
  conservatives are hostile to art.
• 1:05:30
  Fascism is hostile to art. This is
• 1:05:34
  wellestablished.
• 1:05:36
  consider all of this anger over the
• 1:05:38
  Odyssey. And I saw the movie. I didn't
• 1:05:39
  think the movie was that great to be
• 1:05:40
  honest with you. I mean, I realize it's
• 1:05:41
  an epic feat of of movie making, but I
• 1:05:44
  didn't it didn't strike me as like
• 1:05:45
  particularly all that interesting. Uh,
• 1:05:47
  and the things he was caring about like,
• 1:05:49
  oh, there was a trans person playing
• 1:05:50
  Achilles or whatever. And it's like or
• 1:05:53
  whoever the [ __ ] played it, I can't
• 1:05:54
  remember anymore, but you know, there
• 1:05:55
  was a the Elliot Page was in it like and
• 1:05:57
  but but Elliot Page was in this movie
• 1:05:58
  for like I'm not even kidding like like
• 1:06:00
  40 seconds. Like not at all. like the
• 1:06:03
  the kind of thing that like of all the
• 1:06:05
  problems that the movie had that was
• 1:06:07
  such that you could even identify that
• 1:06:08
  as one which you couldn't but let's say
• 1:06:10
  you did it's a pretty minor one relative
• 1:06:12
  to everything else in the movie they are
• 1:06:15
  hostile to the arts they want to cut
• 1:06:16
  funding to the arts they have been doing
• 1:06:19
  that they are very very
• 1:06:21
  the celebration of western culture
• 1:06:23
  through the arts that's a thing that
• 1:06:25
  they might pay lip service to at times
• 1:06:27
  but from a
• 1:06:30
  you know this is not a movement that
• 1:06:32
  really revels in shares in that kind of
• 1:06:34
  a thing. And now you're going to put
• 1:06:35
  investors like that in charge of movie
• 1:06:38
  making. And then remember who owns 49.5%
• 1:06:41
  of this? The Saudis, the Qataris, the
• 1:06:44
  Emirates.
• 1:06:47
  You mean to tell me that's going to have
• 1:06:48
  no role on the kinds of movies that get
• 1:06:51
  made?
• 1:06:53
  Like there was a lot of consternation
• 1:06:55
  about China making a bunch of movies and
• 1:06:57
  then spitting out, you know, not merely
• 1:06:59
  pro-China propaganda on the movies that
• 1:07:02
  come out and then sneaking that into
• 1:07:03
  American cinemas and like all this sort
• 1:07:05
  of like this way to to to to
• 1:07:08
  surreptitiously get in pro-Chinese
• 1:07:10
  talking points. They were doing all of
• 1:07:12
  that. They were doing all of that and I
• 1:07:14
  heard so many conservatives complain
• 1:07:16
  about it and then they're just
• 1:07:17
  cheerleading this [ __ ] deal. Like I
• 1:07:20
  don't know precisely what influence this
• 1:07:23
  will ultimately have. This is all
• 1:07:24
  speculative. But given what we've seen
• 1:07:26
  in other scenarios given what this one
• 1:07:29
  provides and just sort of given the
• 1:07:31
  general hostility to the arts that so
• 1:07:33
  many on the right have yeah I'd be a
• 1:07:35
  little worried about it. But as I
• 1:07:36
  mentioned before just in terms of the
• 1:07:37
  numbers they put out 17 movies uh no
• 1:07:41
  sorry 18 movies collective. No
• 1:07:44
  17 17 movies um together the two studios
• 1:07:48
  separately this last year. Okay, they
• 1:07:51
  only pledged to make 15 for the next for
• 1:07:55
  the next uh for the next two. They're
• 1:07:58
  pledging to do even less than they're
• 1:08:00
  already doing and they put it in
• 1:08:02
  writing.
• 1:08:08
  Are there any independent news
• 1:08:10
  organizations you recommend? Yes, I
• 1:08:12
  become a big fan of Breaking Points and
• 1:08:13
  independent journalists like Kyle
• 1:08:14
  Kolinsky. Sure. I read uh Drop Site.
• 1:08:17
  Drop site news is one of my favorite
• 1:08:19
  places that I read. Guys, I'm reading a
• 1:08:21
  lot of news about Latin America. The
• 1:08:23
  Economist is unreliable, dude. The
• 1:08:26
  Economist, The Economist is so bad. Um,
• 1:08:29
  if you guys want good I I suspect that
• 1:08:32
  many of you do not wish to say this, but
• 1:08:33
  I just want to say it out loud. If you
• 1:08:35
  want good coverage of Colombia, because
• 1:08:38
  dude, the Colombian media is so [ __ ]
• 1:08:40
  right-wing, it's crazy. Um, Colombia
• 1:08:43
  Reports is pretty good. Comio is pretty
• 1:08:46
  good. Uh, El Pais Colombia is really
• 1:08:48
  good. Ela El Pais Colombia is maybe one
• 1:08:51
  of my favorite ones. They do phenomenal
• 1:08:54
  work. Really, really good. But I'm
• 1:08:55
  trying to think. Okay. Um, other
• 1:08:57
  independent I read John G. I love his
• 1:09:00
  Substack. Um, Chris Hedges. Chris Hedges
• 1:09:04
  is phenomenal. Um, I do read Reuters
• 1:09:07
  time to time. I do read AP News time to
• 1:09:09
  time. Um, but you know, there's always
• 1:09:11
  there can be issues with that. But as a
• 1:09:13
  general thing, it tends to work. Okay.
• 1:09:16
  Um,
• 1:09:18
  what else do I do? I read the locally. I
• 1:09:20
  read the Washington Sun. Um,
• 1:09:23
  I read Empire or I anything that Empire
• 1:09:26
  files, which is Abby Martin. Uh, I I
• 1:09:28
  take a look at that. Um, I read
• 1:09:32
  um,
• 1:09:34
  you know, I read some of the lefty
• 1:09:35
  stuff. Um, American Prospect
• 1:09:38
  on occasion, Mother Jones, you know,
• 1:09:40
  that kind of a thing. Um, trying to
• 1:09:43
  think of like news outlets I go to.
• 1:09:44
  Yeah, I mean that'll get you started.
• 1:09:51
  New donk to politics. It seems like this
• 1:09:53
  administration is very chaotic. You're
• 1:09:55
  you're very right. There's a new scandal
• 1:09:57
  or attack on democracy daily. Yep. It's
• 1:10:00
  exhausting. Yes. Were some past
• 1:10:03
  administrations like this and I just
• 1:10:04
  didn't notice? No. No.
• 1:10:07
  No. I've never seen anything like this.
• 1:10:09
  The one thing that's different is this
• 1:10:11
  term relative to the first term and
• 1:10:13
  frankly relative to many terms I've seen
• 1:10:16
  there is less uh turnover this time, you
• 1:10:20
  know, but like Pete, do you guys
• 1:10:21
  remember Signalgate with Pete Hexath
• 1:10:24
  when he was like texting war plans to
• 1:10:26
  Jeffrey Goldberg from the Atlantic? We
• 1:10:28
  all just memory hold it. Like the guy's
• 1:10:29
  been incompetent for a very long time.
• 1:10:31
  That would have ended a political career
• 1:10:32
  previously. Um
• 1:10:35
  but
• 1:10:37
  no th this is the insanity of this
• 1:10:42
  administration is beyond description. I
• 1:10:44
  mean Obama set kind because Obama faced
• 1:10:48
  for example because Obama faced so much
• 1:10:51
  friction trying to work with the
• 1:10:53
  Republican Senate for most of his term.
• 1:10:56
  He ended up doing a lot of executive
• 1:10:57
  orders uh to get around that. And many
• 1:11:00
  of that worked but many of that much of
• 1:11:02
  that didn't. it, you know, it was hit or
• 1:11:03
  miss. Uh, but the practice of using an
• 1:11:06
  enormous amount of executive orders, it
• 1:11:08
  really ballooned under him. So, like I
• 1:11:11
  can't say that Trump doing all the
• 1:11:13
  executive orders is part of that or is
• 1:11:16
  some some kind of new thing, but like
• 1:11:18
  like all Trump things, he saw one thing
• 1:11:19
  and then [ __ ] ratcheted it up to the
• 1:11:22
  nth degree. So like just coming out, you
• 1:11:24
  know, the first part of 2025 and there's
• 1:11:26
  a new executive order every day or we're
• 1:11:30
  trying to take and and also like you
• 1:11:32
  know most people most administrations
• 1:11:33
  even if the Bush administration they
• 1:11:36
  didn't feel this way. Conservatives
• 1:11:37
  historically have been somewhat
• 1:11:38
  pro-immigration
• 1:11:40
  but let's say he didn't and they didn't
• 1:11:42
  like you know Roie Wade and they didn't
• 1:11:44
  like um you know birthright citizenship.
• 1:11:47
  They still were not trying to do
• 1:11:48
  executive orders to just undo things and
• 1:11:51
  thinking like, oh, a president can write
• 1:11:53
  a memo and all of a sudden that like,
• 1:11:54
  you know, birthright citizenship,
• 1:11:56
  birthright citizenship doesn't exist
• 1:11:57
  anymore. They wouldn't. They didn't have
• 1:11:59
  the same kinds of attacks in that
• 1:12:01
  particular way. Now again, this is not
• 1:12:03
  me trying to whitewash the Bush
• 1:12:04
  administration, which was enormously
• 1:12:07
  destructive, but internally they were
• 1:12:10
  not quite as committed to, this is what
• 1:12:14
  I mean, they were not committed to
• 1:12:16
  undoing the order of things and the
• 1:12:18
  institutions that made it possible in
• 1:12:20
  the way that that the Trump
• 1:12:22
  administration and the movement it
• 1:12:23
  represents are. This is an assault on
• 1:12:26
  what we have built.
• 1:12:29
  With the straight of horses largely
• 1:12:30
  closed, the Houthis is controlling Babel
• 1:12:32
  Mandeb. Do you think there's a real risk
• 1:12:34
  Trump eventually resorts to using
• 1:12:35
  nuclear weapons against Iran? It's a
• 1:12:39
  I would have to imagine he would not,
• 1:12:41
  but
• 1:12:44
  you know, is there a tactical nuke he
• 1:12:46
  might agree to?
• 1:12:49
  Might he try something else that's not
• 1:12:51
  that and it produces a response from the
• 1:12:53
  Iranians and it sets off, you know, an
• 1:12:56
  an escalation that can't be contained? I
• 1:12:59
  don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:13:02
  I really hope not. I I would not say
• 1:13:05
  that's top of mind, my my concern.
• 1:13:09
  But, you know, if we were to leave the
• 1:13:10
  Middle East with some kind of negotiated
• 1:13:13
  settlement with Iran, does Israel drop
• 1:13:16
  one?
• 1:13:18
  Have you thought about that? You know,
• 1:13:19
  does Israel drop one onto Iran? I don't
• 1:13:22
  know the answer to that.
• 1:13:25
  This is an observation from a
• 1:13:26
  non-American. It doesn't affect me
• 1:13:28
  really. So, not bait. I've been curious
• 1:13:30
  how it is there. There are almost no
• 1:13:33
  non-white voices in MMA media except
• 1:13:35
  former fighters except before the MAGA
• 1:13:38
  pivot. Yeah, dude. It's a great
• 1:13:39
  question. It's This is one that's more
• 1:13:41
  for the MMA chat, so I'd like to keep it
• 1:13:42
  that way in general. Um, but the MMA
• 1:13:45
  media class is mostly white dudes. I
• 1:13:47
  mean, the the sport is mostly white
• 1:13:49
  dudes. the the the participants in the
• 1:13:51
  gyms are different, but from a fan
• 1:13:53
  audience, I mean, honestly, dude, if you
• 1:13:55
  think about, just to back up a little
• 1:13:56
  step, one of the things that
• 1:14:00
  UFC did really well was a lot of like
• 1:14:03
  young white males had kind of distanced
• 1:14:05
  themselves from boxing a little bit in
• 1:14:06
  the 90s, at least that process had
• 1:14:08
  begun. And into the 2000s, there was be
• 1:14:12
  you could see a departure that had
• 1:14:14
  happened. they, you know, they
• 1:14:16
  reintroduced that demo to being fight
• 1:14:19
  fans again. Uh, not into boxing, but
• 1:14:22
  into a different kind. And that's, you
• 1:14:24
  know, that's that's an actual thing that
• 1:14:26
  took place that I did not imagine it
• 1:14:27
  ever would. But it has come to define,
• 1:14:30
  you know, ultimately who gets a say in
• 1:14:31
  the sport. I mean, there are some non
• 1:14:33
  there are some voices that are, but like
• 1:14:35
  here's one like, you know, aside from
• 1:14:37
  Karen Bryant, have you ever seen uh a
• 1:14:40
  black woman, for example, doing fight
• 1:14:42
  breakdowns? The answer is probably not.
• 1:14:45
  Is it because they can't do them? Of
• 1:14:46
  course not. So then they're either not
• 1:14:48
  getting the opportunities or they're not
• 1:14:50
  trying or they're not there at all. And
• 1:14:52
  then you have to ask yourself, why is
• 1:14:53
  that? You know,
• 1:14:56
  do you think you could find a BC-ike
• 1:14:58
  partner for your political channel?
• 1:14:59
  Maybe someone who could play the dozens
• 1:15:01
  with you in politics or do you want to
• 1:15:03
  just fly solo and do interviews here and
• 1:15:04
  there? No, I don't mind. I to be honest,
• 1:15:07
  both is the answer. Both. What I have
• 1:15:10
  found is that I'm happiest when I have
• 1:15:13
  my own space to do a little bit of what
• 1:15:14
  I like, you know, but I also feel like
• 1:15:18
  being a part of a team is something that
• 1:15:21
  I really benefit from as well. Not just
• 1:15:23
  a partner, but the team that comes
• 1:15:25
  around that the partner, of course. I
• 1:15:26
  mean, of course, it's really, really
• 1:15:27
  important. I mean, I don't mean to
• 1:15:28
  undermine VC in any way whatsoever.
• 1:15:30
  Like, he's you know, like MK is not the
• 1:15:33
  same without him, obviously, right? Um,
• 1:15:35
  how could it be? But I think also the
• 1:15:38
  thing is like, you know, when BC and I
• 1:15:40
  were really killing it on Showtime, we
• 1:15:41
  had a huge team around us and they
• 1:15:43
  enabled us to do so many things. Um I I
• 1:15:46
  do, you know, I'm happy for the people
• 1:15:48
  that still remain like Long Island Luke
• 1:15:49
  and there's some producers behind the
• 1:15:50
  scenes you guys don't know, but like um
• 1:15:54
  you know, I'm grateful for them, please.
• 1:15:55
  I mean, it's amazing that I've got them
• 1:15:56
  still in my life, but at the same time,
• 1:15:58
  you know, like I just know I I I I have
• 1:16:03
  had enough experience to know under
• 1:16:05
  which conditions I feel like I can
• 1:16:06
  thrive.
• 1:16:09
  Um, any resources or videos you'd
• 1:16:11
  recommend in the current political
• 1:16:12
  situation in Colombia? Yes, I just
• 1:16:13
  mentioned a bunch. My girlfriend and her
• 1:16:15
  family are Colombian and are really and
• 1:16:16
  really support the government. Oh, [ __ ]
• 1:16:19
  Sorry, bro. Comio is big, dude. Reista
• 1:16:23
  Seana is awful. Awful. Uh, Blue Radio,
• 1:16:29
  Blue Rario is not that good. Um, Kakol
• 1:16:32
  is hit or miss. Eris is hit or miss.
• 1:16:36
  Newestle is hit or miss, but Comio is
• 1:16:40
  good. And dude, I'm telling you, El
• 1:16:41
  Pais, El Pais, Colombia. El Pais
• 1:16:44
  Colombia. That's the one that I go to
• 1:16:46
  more than just about anyone. And then
• 1:16:48
  Colombia reports to, which is in
• 1:16:49
  English.
• 1:16:53
  Bro, did y'all see what the president of
• 1:16:55
  Colombia did? First of all, he's
• 1:16:57
  walking. Oh, hold on. Ah, how did that
• 1:17:01
  happen? There it is. Sorry.
• 1:17:05
  His name is uh Abel Lardardo de la
• 1:17:08
  Espriela. His name is Abel Lardo de la
• 1:17:10
  Espria. Okay. Um, we call him Adl. Adl.
• 1:17:14
  So Adl, first of all, they he is trying
• 1:17:17
  Oh my god, dude. How did we not talk
• 1:17:19
  about this?
• 1:17:22
  Did y'all see what happened in Colombia
• 1:17:24
  this week? The United States government
• 1:17:26
  sent out a travel warning to people to
• 1:17:29
  be either not go or leave if they could.
• 1:17:33
  Uh Santa Marta. Santa Marta. Okay, we
• 1:17:36
  can just call it Santa Marta. All right.
• 1:17:38
  Why is that relevant? Well, number one,
• 1:17:40
  it's one of their major coastal cities.
• 1:17:42
  Uh Cartahena is the main one, but it's
• 1:17:45
  Santa Marta is up there. Plus, Santa
• 1:17:47
  Mart is very close to what they call um
• 1:17:49
  um the I'll say in English, Tyrrona
• 1:17:51
  Park, and it's like this almost like a
• 1:17:53
  wildlife preserve and it's got insane
• 1:17:56
  beaches and mountains and you know, it's
• 1:17:58
  it's incredible. The the biodiversity in
• 1:18:00
  Colombia is second to none. Why is this
• 1:18:02
  relevant? Because Das Brijo comes in and
• 1:18:05
  says, "I'm just going to do maximum
• 1:18:06
  warfare on, you know, narot traffickers
• 1:18:08
  and whatnot." Which a lot of Colombians
• 1:18:10
  really wanted to hear.
• 1:18:12
  But what ended up happening is they
• 1:18:14
  killed some uh of the uh this group
• 1:18:17
  called the ACSN. And
• 1:18:20
  you know, there's a million different
• 1:18:21
  militias and guerilla groups in parts of
• 1:18:24
  Colombia. And I'm not saying that that
• 1:18:27
  was the wrong answer, but it looked to
• 1:18:28
  me like the government was unprepared
• 1:18:31
  for the response because the response
• 1:18:32
  was they killed the government kills a
• 1:18:34
  few of the leaders. Then that group
• 1:18:37
  makes the city itself, including the
• 1:18:39
  tourist areas, shut down and businesses
• 1:18:41
  that didn't. These guys were riding
• 1:18:43
  around on mopeds. You ever see two guys
• 1:18:44
  on a motorcycle or a moped in Colombia?
• 1:18:47
  Be a little careful about that because
• 1:18:49
  one's driving and the other one is
• 1:18:50
  [ __ ] got pistolas at the side, bro.
• 1:18:53
  Anyway, so so they kill this guy. The
• 1:18:57
  these the the ACSN wants to shut it's
• 1:19:00
  the uh concistadores
• 1:19:02
  Sierra Nevada, something like that. I
• 1:19:04
  forget their name. ACSN. and they were
• 1:19:06
  taking themselves with videos going to
• 1:19:08
  businesses that were still open and then
• 1:19:09
  shooting up the place and then taking
• 1:19:11
  kids hostage and [ __ ] like super [ __ ]
• 1:19:13
  up. So the whole city was shut down.
• 1:19:14
  Eventually they have to send the
• 1:19:16
  military back in to bring the streets
• 1:19:18
  back. Dude, I did my vacation in Santa
• 1:19:20
  Marta in August.
• 1:19:23
  I was just I was literally just there.
• 1:19:26
  It's a wonderful place. Amazing place. I
• 1:19:29
  did all those shows there. You guys have
• 1:19:31
  seen me do those shows where I was in
• 1:19:32
  various different places um during the
• 1:19:35
  summer. That was in Santa Marta.
• 1:19:38
  Uh and interestingly, the president goes
• 1:19:42
  through and like to try to show a force,
• 1:19:45
  the [ __ ] president had a
• 1:19:47
  walkie-talkie on his belt and a pistol.
• 1:19:53
  Can you imagine that? Like Trump walking
• 1:19:55
  around with just a pistol on his side,
• 1:19:57
  like going door todo and [ __ ] like he's
• 1:19:59
  part of [ __ ] Seal Team Six,
• 1:20:02
  dude.
• 1:20:04
  Like Colombia made such a bad mistake
• 1:20:07
  with him. Such a bad mistake. It's crazy
• 1:20:10
  to me, dude. Latin America is weird,
• 1:20:12
  man. Because
• 1:20:14
  during the time of Urbe, they had what
• 1:20:16
  they were called they called them in
• 1:20:18
  English false positives, where they
• 1:20:20
  would say, "Hey, we killed 20 gorillas."
• 1:20:23
  And um you know and they would they
• 1:20:26
  would have body bags or they would have
• 1:20:28
  you know identities and then what they
• 1:20:31
  ended up finding out were then people
• 1:20:32
  from the countryside were just going
• 1:20:33
  missing and the government was just
• 1:20:35
  killing a bunch of people and then
• 1:20:37
  saying it they were all gorillas in the
• 1:20:39
  end when they weren't. They were false
• 1:20:41
  positives. This happened under um um
• 1:20:43
  Urribe who's still able to have a life
• 1:20:45
  somehow in Colombia. But you get the
• 1:20:47
  idea, right? And they just said like,
• 1:20:50
  "Dude, Latin America's weird because
• 1:20:53
  their situation is
• 1:20:55
  they don't really want to confront their
• 1:20:58
  inequality. They don't really have the
• 1:21:00
  social support for it and they don't
• 1:21:02
  have the like the the upper class and
• 1:21:05
  it's a very stratified stratified
• 1:21:07
  society. They don't really have the
• 1:21:09
  appetite to combat poverty. They don't
• 1:21:13
  really have the appetite for it. They
• 1:21:14
  would really rather just suppress it and
• 1:21:16
  then the social forces that come from
• 1:21:18
  that. And that just leads to maximum
• 1:21:21
  [ __ ] warfare. And so they put in this
• 1:21:23
  guy back in power because the last one
• 1:21:25
  and I get Gustavo Petro was like not
• 1:21:29
  there's a lot of criticisms you can make
• 1:21:30
  of Petro, but one thing he he was a
• 1:21:32
  former gorilla himself and a and a math
• 1:21:34
  professor and all this. He he he wanted
• 1:21:36
  he he wanted to continue a lot of what
• 1:21:39
  his predecessor had done, Juan Manuel,
• 1:21:42
  one of the one of the predecessors, Juan
• 1:21:43
  Manuel Santos, um to make peace with,
• 1:21:46
  you know, FARC and various other groups.
• 1:21:48
  And I'm not saying he was an effective
• 1:21:50
  steward of that. I think there's a
• 1:21:51
  criticism to make there for sure, but
• 1:21:53
  you know,
• 1:21:55
  it's like
• 1:21:59
  you can't just beat poverty with guns
• 1:22:03
  unless you just kill everybody.
• 1:22:06
  And so the the path to trying to beat
• 1:22:10
  that through weaponry seems misguided to
• 1:22:14
  me.
• 1:22:16
  They love that [ __ ]
• 1:22:19
  Good input, Recali and Warner Brothers.
• 1:22:20
  Appreciate it. I appreciate you. All
• 1:22:22
  right. Is that it for today? Yeah, we
• 1:22:24
  went for about what? Oh, an hour and a
• 1:22:26
  half almost. Not bad. All right. Uh,
• 1:22:28
  boys and girls, thank you so much for
• 1:22:30
  being here. I greatly Oh, we got one
• 1:22:31
  more. Not that nukes are the solution,
• 1:22:32
  but if Iran already for sure had their
• 1:22:34
  own nukes, would we have attacked? No.
• 1:22:37
  Would it change Israeli posture? Yes.
• 1:22:41
  The most vindicated man in the world, it
• 1:22:43
  brings me no joy to say, but it is true,
• 1:22:45
  is Kim Kim Jong-un.
• 1:22:52
  Trump has outwardly said, "We're not
• 1:22:55
  [ __ ] with them because it would be
• 1:22:57
  bad." And he even said, "If Iran had
• 1:22:58
  them, we wouldn't be able to do
• 1:23:00
  anything." He literally makes the
• 1:23:01
  argument that US empire wouldn't be able
• 1:23:03
  to bully Iran if they had nukes. Again,
• 1:23:07
  the most destabilizing force in the
• 1:23:09
  world right now is us.
• 1:23:12
  It is what we are doing. Look at what we
• 1:23:14
  are doing to the energy supply of the
• 1:23:16
  world. Right? For what gain, I couldn't
• 1:23:18
  possibly tell you. um
• 1:23:23
  if you could put a meaningful constraint
• 1:23:25
  on that again I don't there's there's a
• 1:23:28
  question about like you know what what
• 1:23:31
  kind of nuclear deterrence is the most
• 1:23:34
  um not really effective but the most
• 1:23:36
  available to us and I think some of
• 1:23:38
  those paradigms are no longer around but
• 1:23:41
  in a world where the dominant superpower
• 1:23:44
  is attempting to aggressively use both
• 1:23:47
  bullying tactics for adversaries um as
• 1:23:50
  well as allies and to threaten basically
• 1:23:53
  anything that moves. It is hard to see
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  how the rest of the world being able to
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  steal itself against it creates for more
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  instability.
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  Um and Kim Jong-un has avoided all of
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  this because he can just send nuclear
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  weapons down range.
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  This is what Hassan [ __ ] was talking
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  about and people were killing him for
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  it. It was stupid. All right. Uh thumbs
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  up on the video. Thanks to all who hung
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  appreciate you all. Have a great
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