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Reel vs. Real Nursing: Reacting to Healthcare TikToks, ICU Humor & What Crosses the Line · Banter At The Bedside

0:11
SPEAKER_01: Hey everybody, it's Kaylee.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to Banter at the Bedside.
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SPEAKER_01: We're really excited to have everybody here today.
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SPEAKER_01: As always, this podcast is for entertainment purposes only.
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SPEAKER_01: We're not providing any medical advice.
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SPEAKER_01: If you need medical care, please seek the advice of your medical provider.
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SPEAKER_01: These are our opinions.
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SPEAKER_01: We don't represent any organization or entity.
0:30
SPEAKER_01: For those of you returning, welcome back.
0:32
SPEAKER_01: For those of you first-time listeners, I'm Kaylee.
0:35
SPEAKER_01: I am a cardiac ICU nurse of almost 18 years now.
0:40
SPEAKER_01: We have Abby, our other main co-host.
0:43
SPEAKER_01: She's a nurse practitioner of almost eight years.
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SPEAKER_01: And we have Amanda, aka Mama, back again.
0:50
SPEAKER_01: She is also a cardiac ICU nurse of almost 20 years.
0:53
SPEAKER_01: So we've got a lot of um years in the bank here for experience today.
0:58
SPEAKER_01: And we are going to be reacting to some reels, some medical reels.
1:04
SPEAKER_01: Now, Abby and I, you know, we dabble.
1:07
SPEAKER_01: We we do some stuff on TikTok for fun.
1:10
SPEAKER_01: And we probably consume a lot more than Amanda does.
1:13
SPEAKER_01: So we may have seen these.
1:15
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what Abby has pulled.
1:16
SPEAKER_01: So it will be my first time seeing what she's pulled.
1:19
SPEAKER_01: Maybe I've seen it before, but I'm gonna go on a limb and say Amanda probably hasn't seen a lot of these.
1:23
SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna be getting a real really good reaction.
1:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
1:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm a grandma when it comes to social media.
1:30
SPEAKER_01: I don't ever see these things that you guys talk about.
1:32
SPEAKER_01: Then you have to show me at work and then I'm flabbergasted.
1:35
SPEAKER_01: And then anyway.
1:36
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
1:37
SPEAKER_02: Jeez, so this will be good, I think.
1:40
SPEAKER_02: This will be funny.
1:41
SPEAKER_02: And some of these, this is Abby.
1:44
SPEAKER_02: Some of these uh I like collect and put, I'm like, this would be great for us to react to.
1:49
SPEAKER_02: So some of them I kind of forget.
1:51
SPEAKER_02: It will be interesting to see.
1:53
SPEAKER_02: I guess before we like dive in, Amanda, you have known Kaylee for a long time.
2:00
SPEAKER_02: You've known me now for a long time.
2:03
SPEAKER_02: Seeing us like do this TikTok journey, podcast journey, what's that been like?
2:09
SPEAKER_02: Like, do you feel like we've you've seen a difference in us?
2:13
SPEAKER_02: Like okay.
2:14
SPEAKER_01: I could speak a lot about that.
2:16
SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm a lengthy answer person.
2:18
SPEAKER_01: However, it kind of makes me proud.
2:20
SPEAKER_01: It kind of like makes like my little mama heart proud because I've seen, specifically with Kaylee, I've seen you blossomed into this funny, not that you weren't funny before.
2:33
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
2:34
SPEAKER_01: But it's like you've really it's really brought out the side of you that is so fun and so light for me, especially, you know, when worlds can kind of feel heavy.
2:44
SPEAKER_01: Um it it's just been a really cool side of you to see that much more.
2:50
SPEAKER_01: And I get to see it because we're very close.
2:52
SPEAKER_01: But you know, when we're at work and we're professional, you know, you can't be about so silly and certain and oh wait, Amanda, do you think I'm professional at work?
3:00
SPEAKER_01: Oh, for sure.
3:01
SPEAKER_01: Am I am I respectful to the patients and their families?
3:05
SPEAKER_01: Yes, ma'am, you are.
3:06
SPEAKER_01: Well, you can take care of me or my family any day.
3:11
SPEAKER_01: So you don't think that us recording TikToks has taken away from patient care or something?
3:16
SPEAKER_01: Oh no.
3:16
SPEAKER_01: If you were doing something trifling, I would call you out.
3:18
SPEAKER_01: And I've never known that.
3:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:21
SPEAKER_01: It's like, well, we don't really, we we never did a ton.
3:24
SPEAKER_01: We don't have time, but it is funny like every once in a while to get some people to work together.
3:29
SPEAKER_01: For sure.
3:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:31
SPEAKER_01: So it just, I've been very proud of you to see this side of you.
3:35
SPEAKER_01: And um, I think it's really fun how both of you have integrated this like comedy side of nursing because it is um a very, like I said, heavy type um job.
3:47
SPEAKER_01: And it's nice to kind of, you know, not making fun, but making light of some of the scenarios.
3:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, I appreciate I appreciate it.
3:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think like Kaylee's bio said, like, let's left laugh together so we don't cry.
4:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
4:03
SPEAKER_01: Cause sometimes that's what you have to do.
4:04
SPEAKER_01: You just have to cry.
4:05
SPEAKER_01: But if we can laugh it out instead of having to cry so much, um I'll sign up.
4:09
SPEAKER_01: I'll sign up on that.
4:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:10
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think we've talked about this a lot.
4:12
SPEAKER_01: We cope with humor, we cope with dark humor sometimes.
4:16
SPEAKER_01: And it's not always dark, but it it truly is like I have we have got to laugh.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: Because it's bad or frustrating or whatever, you know.
4:26
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
4:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
4:27
SPEAKER_02: I think the it's such a nice outlet to just put see something or even make like a simple meme and be like, and then have like even 30 people.
4:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm not as big as Kaylee, but even have just like 30 people on my page, like that I don't know that aren't my friends liking it or commenting.
4:48
SPEAKER_02: Like, yes, yes.
4:50
SPEAKER_02: And it just makes me feel like so true.
4:52
SPEAKER_01: They're like not alone.
4:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:54
SPEAKER_01: Like I did one.
4:55
SPEAKER_02: I just did one and it was like top five horror movies, which is a trend.
5:00
SPEAKER_02: And on it, one of them was, and it's like things that you don't like to do or scary things.
5:04
SPEAKER_02: And I did epic downtime, and I had like four strangers, yes, that yes, I hate epic downtime.
5:11
SPEAKER_02: And it's like, I know people do, but it's so nice to know that there's so many other people out there throughout the whole country, throughout the whole world of medicine that experience what we experience and feel the same way, and you're just not alone.
5:28
SPEAKER_02: So I think even though we're all on a team, sometimes you can feel very alone in those feelings.
5:34
SPEAKER_02: And I think for me, that's the beautiful thing that social media can do for healthcare.
5:40
SPEAKER_02: And you know, I'm the I'm the business one here.
5:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm the I'm the pragmatic one on this show.
5:49
SPEAKER_02: But I was actually, I was actually a part of a research.
5:53
SPEAKER_02: We looked at research, this god, this was like 2014.
5:57
SPEAKER_02: No, it was a little later than 2016, and we looked at meme accounts for nurses because they were like starting to be on the rise.
6:04
SPEAKER_02: And I was and it was in my master's, and we looked, we had the hypothesis that it would contribute to burnout, it would make burnout worse, these meme accounts, because you're off work and you're looking at these and it's reminding of your we were wrong.
6:20
SPEAKER_02: Our hypothesis was wrong.
6:23
SPEAKER_02: It actually, those who participated in meme accounts, even just interacting, they had less burnout.
6:30
SPEAKER_02: They were more likely to stay at their facilities and they had less burnout.
6:35
SPEAKER_02: Because as we continued the study, we found that it's because it was the sense of community.
6:40
SPEAKER_02: They didn't feel isolated, they didn't feel alone.
6:44
SPEAKER_02: And so it is there are inappropriate ones out there.
6:47
SPEAKER_02: We're we don't punch down to patients, we don't say icks about patience, but there is some of what we do that is just you need to not feel alone to feel okay.
7:00
SPEAKER_02: And I think that's that's what it has.
7:03
SPEAKER_02: And being now someone that makes some of them, it's it's more fun than I thought it was.
7:08
SPEAKER_02: And I don't doubt it.
7:09
SPEAKER_01: I can't imagine that it would not even be the external validation that you receive, but just knowing that you're allowing someone to feel seen, like that would be everything to me.
7:19
SPEAKER_01: Just with those likes or those, like, yeah, I hate the epic downtime.
7:23
SPEAKER_01: You know, I would just think that just like, oh, I've helped you feel seen, but I feel like that would be pretty cool.
7:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's you.
7:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
7:32
SPEAKER_02: Because you want you want everyone to feel seen.
7:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm gonna stay bad.
7:38
SPEAKER_02: And that's why we love you.
7:40
SPEAKER_02: All right.
7:41
SPEAKER_02: So I have a bunch.
7:43
SPEAKER_02: I'd been labeling them.
7:45
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
7:46
SPEAKER_02: Do you want us?
7:47
SPEAKER_02: Should we start funny?
7:49
SPEAKER_02: Duh.
7:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
7:49
SPEAKER_01: I'll start off with something funny.
7:51
SPEAKER_02: All right.
7:52
SPEAKER_02: I actually think I know the perfect one to start Amanda with.
7:56
SPEAKER_01: Just don't make me cry.
7:58
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
7:59
SPEAKER_02: No, none of these will make you cry.
8:01
SPEAKER_02: They'll either make you laugh or they'll make you worse.
8:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
8:05
SPEAKER_02: All right.
8:06
SPEAKER_02: For those listening before we start playing, it says point of view, you're an ICU doctor who tries making assignments as charge nurse with ad libs.
8:17
SPEAKER_02: So it is a a doctor.
8:19
SPEAKER_02: I think he's a training doctor, and he is about to try to do what the nurse the charge nurses do.
8:26
SPEAKER_02: And for our non-medical listeners out there, a charge assignment is the process of assigning the next shifts patients to the oncoming nurses.
8:38
SPEAKER_02: So the charge nurse on one shift will assign them to the next shift, and we'll get into what that kind of looks like.
8:47
SPEAKER_02: And this doctor is trying to do it himself without training.
8:52
SPEAKER_04: I'm ready.
8:54
SPEAKER_04: How am I gonna do this?
8:56
SPEAKER_04: So we have 13.
8:57
SPEAKER_04: We have 13.
8:58
SPEAKER_04: Are you sure we have 13?
9:02
unknown: Okay.
9:04
SPEAKER_04: Right.
9:05
SPEAKER_04: They're gonna be mad.
9:05
SPEAKER_04: They're gonna be mad.
9:07
SPEAKER_04: And then people you're telling me you guys do this in 15 minutes?
9:10
SPEAKER_04: What is this?
9:11
SPEAKER_04: Like when we go, wait, can I get a separate?
9:16
SPEAKER_04: We need to give your assignments then.
9:19
SPEAKER_04: Okay, okay, okay.
9:21
SPEAKER_04: This is the time.
9:22
SPEAKER_04: You know what?
9:23
SPEAKER_04: This is our census.
9:24
SPEAKER_04: They've had some good put that person there twice.
9:33
SPEAKER_04: I'm so close.
9:34
SPEAKER_04: I'm so close.
9:35
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
9:38
SPEAKER_04: Oh 13.
9:39
SPEAKER_04: Okay, we're good.
9:40
SPEAKER_04: All right, I don't see the 13.
9:42
SPEAKER_04: I'm trying.
9:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh moment of truth.
9:47
SPEAKER_01: Like a B on that.
9:48
SPEAKER_02: You give me a B?
9:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
9:50
SPEAKER_01: Oh I didn't like the B.
9:52
SPEAKER_01: Imagine.
9:53
SPEAKER_01: So cute.
9:53
SPEAKER_01: It's like what a Sudoku puzzle.
9:55
SPEAKER_01: It's like, huh?
9:56
SPEAKER_01: I already have that.
9:57
SPEAKER_01: Oh no.
9:58
SPEAKER_01: I know.
9:58
SPEAKER_01: And if you need a separate sheet of paper, that's fine.
10:01
SPEAKER_01: And it is, I saw the little comment.
10:02
SPEAKER_01: It's like chest, not checkers.
10:04
SPEAKER_01: It really is.
10:04
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of thought that goes into where you put people.
10:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
10:09
SPEAKER_01: And you think differently than another charge nurse and another charge nurse.
10:13
SPEAKER_01: And then you do the whole assignments, and then the charge nurse at night is like, you put her or him here.
10:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
10:19
SPEAKER_01: Somebody always wants to.
10:20
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, should we do, should we start grading each other's charge nurse assignments?
10:23
SPEAKER_01: So it's hard for us.
10:25
SPEAKER_01: I can only imagine the position.
10:27
SPEAKER_02: He was good.
10:28
SPEAKER_02: He didn't do it.
10:29
SPEAKER_02: That was good.
10:30
SPEAKER_02: But I did like when they're like, you put him on there twice.
10:33
SPEAKER_02: And it's like, that's always the worst.
10:36
SPEAKER_01: When I used to make the charge assignments, I was like, and then you're like, oh, correct.
10:40
SPEAKER_01: We're like, what have I done wrong?
10:42
SPEAKER_01: Because these numbers don't add up.
10:43
SPEAKER_01: And then somebody's like, yeah, you did, you wrote it twice.
10:45
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, like, somebody come behind me, whether you do charge or not, come behind me and just make sure that this makes sense.
10:52
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
10:53
SPEAKER_02: As a I will say as a step-down nurse, and I I've I've helped, I've made some assignments, I've helped make some assignments as for you guys on the unit.
11:03
SPEAKER_02: So I'm not fully out of the realm.
11:06
SPEAKER_02: But as a step-down nurse, another thing that I had to take into consideration that you guys don't is how many people the nurse had to hand off to.
11:16
SPEAKER_02: Because if you have five patients and the way my unit was set up as a bed when I was a bedside nurse, like nearly 10 years ago, but the patients could be scattered throughout the unit.
11:30
SPEAKER_02: Like we didn't have like you have these four and these four and these clumps that other facilities have in like newer buildings have now.
11:37
SPEAKER_02: Like they were just throughout.
11:40
SPEAKER_02: So you could split up an assignment, and an offgoing nurse could potentially be giving report to five different nurses, which was like insane.
11:51
SPEAKER_02: And they'd be there till 7:45 because they had to miserable wait.
11:56
SPEAKER_02: You'd have to wait for the next nurse for the nurse you're trying to give report to to come back.
12:02
SPEAKER_01: That's true, because like at night sometimes I might would have like five or six patients, but then the day shift would only get four.
12:09
SPEAKER_01: Four.
12:09
SPEAKER_01: And they would have extra nurses.
12:10
SPEAKER_01: So it's like your assignment might be the one that got sprinkled out to like starting.
12:15
SPEAKER_02: Or someone decompensates, so you they go from floor to step-down status, so then they can't be in that bunch anymore.
12:22
SPEAKER_02: And oh, making the charge assignment was so stressful, and every no one's ever happy with it.
12:28
SPEAKER_01: Like no one's if you make everyone happy, you're doing something wrong.
12:33
SPEAKER_01: Right off.
12:34
SPEAKER_02: There's just no way.
12:35
SPEAKER_01: I just I'm glad you brought that up, Abby, because I didn't even think about that because we always just have our two, sometimes one if they're bad off on a rare occasion.
12:45
SPEAKER_01: But that sounds pretty miserable.
12:47
SPEAKER_01: That was miserable.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: Having to also take that into consideration in your chest game.
12:52
SPEAKER_02: And then if you saw that you had to give report to five different people, you would have to like strategically plan.
12:58
SPEAKER_02: Like oh, sure.
13:00
SPEAKER_02: Like we had one nurse, she would take 10 to 15 minute reports on each patient and that she got.
13:08
SPEAKER_02: And so if you were the last one, like I there were times I was there till like eight o'clock waiting to give report on one patient because I ended at the end.
13:17
SPEAKER_01: She just would ask a bunch of questions?
13:20
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, and um bunch of questions, just you know, what about this?
13:28
SPEAKER_02: What about that?
13:29
SPEAKER_02: Did they do this?
13:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh and it was like, of course, she always ended up getting like the patient that had been there like 30 days, and she's like, So what happened day one?
13:37
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I don't, I don't give a fuck.
13:40
SPEAKER_02: Like that was in the ICU, we're in the step down, who cares?
13:44
SPEAKER_02: We're done.
13:44
SPEAKER_01: They got admitted to the hospital.
13:45
SPEAKER_01: That's what happened.
13:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
13:47
SPEAKER_01: So there comes a point where you just need to generalize that for first 30 days, needs to be a synopsis.
13:55
SPEAKER_02: I do think there are some medical schools that send doctors to shadow a nurse for a day or two.
14:01
SPEAKER_02: And I think this exercise of a doctor trying to do the charge assignment is so good.
14:07
SPEAKER_02: Like he clearly was starting to understand, and he was like, You do this in 15 minutes.
14:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
14:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:14
SPEAKER_01: Just having a different perspective is always good.
14:17
SPEAKER_01: I could appreciate that.
14:19
SPEAKER_02: I wish we couldn't have some of our doctors do it.
14:22
SPEAKER_01: I think then.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: I think I'll make it a team assignment next time I'm in charge, whoever the attending is.
14:28
SPEAKER_01: I feel like it'd be extra hard for the doctors if they don't know the nurses.
14:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:33
SPEAKER_01: No, you're right.
14:34
SPEAKER_01: Even sometimes I'm like, I don't know what they can handle.
14:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm like, there's so many new people, and I'm just like, okay.
14:42
SPEAKER_01: I did like how they said um put them with them because if they're struggling, they can help.
14:48
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I hate having to sometimes always be the one that's like put in the pod to help.
14:54
SPEAKER_01: It's like, great, now I get to do my work and your work all day.
15:00
SPEAKER_01: Like that is not always the case.
15:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm happy to help if I have a chill assignment.
15:03
SPEAKER_01: But like specifically, like they do tell us, like, okay, this is a new grad.
15:07
SPEAKER_01: They just got off orientation, put them in the pod with an experienced nurse.
15:10
SPEAKER_01: That makes sense, right?
15:11
SPEAKER_01: That's like having somebody to ask questions.
15:14
SPEAKER_01: But when it's just a nurse that, like, you know, maybe struggles or doesn't do as good, and then you are their pod partner, you're like, I'm gonna be missing here.
15:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:24
SPEAKER_02: We always the nice part for us when I was a bedside nurse, we always had a backup charge.
15:29
SPEAKER_02: Like the rule was you had to have two charge nurses on each shift.
15:33
SPEAKER_02: The other one didn't act in the charge role, but they were there to help.
15:36
SPEAKER_02: So you at least did have this like back and forth on the assignment.
15:40
SPEAKER_02: Like, what do you think of this and this and this?
15:43
SPEAKER_02: So all right.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: You ready for the next one?
15:46
SPEAKER_01: We ready, we ready.
15:48
SPEAKER_01: He was cute though, he was a good sport.
15:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
15:55
SPEAKER_03: Abigail.
15:57
SPEAKER_03: Abigail.
16:02
SPEAKER_02: So on it, it says, it is me, because Amanda doesn't see our TikToks.
16:08
SPEAKER_02: Um, I need to get a TikTok account now.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: Um broken me.
16:13
SPEAKER_02: It says, POV, the family tries to remind the dementia patient of their values.
16:30
SPEAKER_02: Do it again, do it again, do it again.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: And then in the second part, there is uh, I'm in a wig.
16:39
SPEAKER_01: Oh she is down parting up on you.
16:42
SPEAKER_02: For those listening, I'm in a wig.
16:45
SPEAKER_02: And the second part is the dementia patient saying, I still don't like her.
16:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't like her in again.
16:51
SPEAKER_02: I don't like her.
16:58
SPEAKER_01: That's so good.
16:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't like her.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
17:05
SPEAKER_01: That's good.
17:08
SPEAKER_01: That's real good.
17:09
SPEAKER_01: I get so tickled every time I watch it.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: The wig.
17:13
SPEAKER_01: The wig does it all.
17:14
SPEAKER_01: You can even push play, and I'm tickled.
17:18
SPEAKER_01: I thought she would like that one, Amanda.
17:21
SPEAKER_01: She was like, we gotta show.
17:23
SPEAKER_01: Amanda's that one.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: I was like the wig ones.
17:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
17:27
SPEAKER_01: That's so true, though.
17:29
SPEAKER_01: It's like these poor old people with Alzheimer's are sometimes the meanest, the meanest people you've ever met.
17:37
SPEAKER_01: And their family's so appalled, they're like, I promise, like they're not racist.
17:42
SPEAKER_01: They're not, they've never said that word before in their life.
17:44
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I I get it.
17:45
SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
17:46
SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, I know it's not them.
17:48
SPEAKER_01: Right.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: So, but I mean no.
17:51
SPEAKER_02: And sometimes to me, when I came up with it, I was like, they're always trying to convince their family member with dementia that, like, no, like you that's not that's not you.
18:02
SPEAKER_02: And sometimes I'm just like, it's okay.
18:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm not offended.
18:06
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I think it's a little funny, like you don't like me.
18:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:10
SPEAKER_01: Right.
18:11
SPEAKER_01: They're so applauded.
18:13
SPEAKER_01: That's a good one.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: I remember, I remember, gosh, this was way back in the day.
18:16
SPEAKER_01: And it was this, I think this guy had a stroke, and so a little bit of a different diagnosis, but the wife was so upset because he the way he was acting was completely different, and it was so upsetting to her, which is pitiful.
18:31
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, you can't take offense to I mean any of that stuff.
18:35
SPEAKER_02: It is more distressing to the family than it is to me or to the patient.
18:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:42
SPEAKER_01: I think a lot of times we can tell, is it this disease process or is this person just an asshole?
18:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:49
SPEAKER_01: Well, most of the times it's the first part, and sometimes it's the second part.
18:52
SPEAKER_01: And I'll be like, you don't know your dad.
18:55
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
18:56
SPEAKER_03: Right.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: And then sometimes you get confirmation, like, there was a family member that was like, no, he's just a jerk.
19:01
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Okay.
19:03
SPEAKER_01: Uh thank you for telling me.
19:04
SPEAKER_01: I appreciate that information.
19:06
SPEAKER_01: We can and we'll and that's okay.
19:08
SPEAKER_01: I mean, and we can handle that too.
19:10
SPEAKER_01: It's fine.
19:10
SPEAKER_01: I'm still gonna take care of him.
19:11
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: All right.
19:15
SPEAKER_02: All right.
19:16
SPEAKER_02: Do you want to stay on the fun train?
19:18
SPEAKER_02: Do you want a discussion?
19:19
SPEAKER_02: You want a bad one?
19:20
SPEAKER_02: Let's mix it up.
19:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:22
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so it those listening right now on the screen, it is uh it's going to be a nurse sitting at the station and on the screen, and she's on her phone.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: When my patient keeps bothering me because they in pain, but I'm arguing with my man, and that's how it that's that's what it says.
19:42
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm just reading it verbatim.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: So that when your friends are trying to tell you to be quiet.
19:51
SPEAKER_02: So, and then the audio is just like people yelling at her to listen.
19:55
SPEAKER_02: Do you want to watch it again, Amanda?
19:57
SPEAKER_02: Are you good?
19:58
SPEAKER_02: You can.
19:59
SPEAKER_01: It's just gonna make me more mad, but you can you need to listen.
20:04
SPEAKER_01: Bruh, bruh.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: Bruh I mean, I know I hear that all the time from my children, but it's like, all right now.
20:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:13
SPEAKER_01: Like, don't don't do that.
20:16
SPEAKER_01: I think I don't you can't, I don't think you can say stuff like that about when people are in pain.
20:23
SPEAKER_01: Like that's not no, you can't.
20:24
SPEAKER_01: Because I mean, and uh you're you're a whole adult, obviously, sitting there.
20:28
SPEAKER_01: You know how it feels to be in pain.
20:30
SPEAKER_01: Maybe you've not felt 10 out of 10 pain, but I have endured pain before.
20:36
SPEAKER_01: And if somebody felt as though I was an inconvenience to them when they're getting paid to actually take care of me and distracted by whatever it is that's going on in the outside world.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: That's negligence.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: I mean and because I'm arguing with my man.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: Right.
20:51
SPEAKER_01: That goes together, that's a mess on do not disturb and take care of your patients.
20:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it it's we do have lives outside of here, and it is absolutely like when you come on the unit though, it does have to be like shut down.
21:05
SPEAKER_02: And sometimes the like sometimes your partners don't understand it.
21:08
SPEAKER_02: Like you cannot be arguing with me.
21:10
SPEAKER_02: You can't start this argument while I'm here.
21:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to engage in it.
21:15
SPEAKER_02: But I to me it's the like to me in making a TikTok about it and um that specific like attempt at a joke is what I'm gonna call it.
21:27
SPEAKER_02: That's not the joke.
21:29
SPEAKER_02: The attempt at the joke.
21:31
SPEAKER_02: It's what it's what gives people like us that make some of these funny TikToks bad names.
21:36
SPEAKER_02: Um and it's what makes facilities creating these crazy policies um because of these ones.
21:46
SPEAKER_02: Cause yeah, as a patient, like that is a that is offensive and not, you know, uh your patient's in pain.
21:54
SPEAKER_02: Well, pain's the fifth vital sign last digest.
21:58
SPEAKER_02: You should be addressing.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: Then why are they in pain?
22:01
SPEAKER_02: Like for us, that's right.
22:02
SPEAKER_02: What if they're in truth, what if it's chest pain?
22:05
SPEAKER_02: Then they're having a heart attack.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: Right.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: It's a big deal.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: It just seems very jovial.
22:10
SPEAKER_01: Like everyone knows don't try to start something with me when I'm at work because I'm just not gonna text back, which doesn't happen.
22:19
SPEAKER_01: But um no, but I mean if something's going on and you need to step away, you just get somebody to cover your face and so it's absolutely I've got to go.
22:26
SPEAKER_01: There's something with if it's there are things that you have to just step away and take care of if it's my kids or something.
22:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: So, but I'm gonna pass along, like you're saying.
22:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna pass along.
22:35
SPEAKER_01: Hey, someone needs to make sure they're watching these patients if I need to step away for five minutes.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like get the charge.
22:42
SPEAKER_01: Somebody's in pain.
22:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I guess like you could have said, you know, something like the patient who's on the call all the time, who just needs ice or like they want their blankets, love that you know, everybody can feel pain of I would even say not the patient.
22:56
SPEAKER_02: Like I I thought about it, like I would probably do like when the family member wants a cup of ice, but I'm arguing with my man.
23:04
SPEAKER_02: Like your the family member is necessarily my highest priority, right?
23:08
SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
23:09
SPEAKER_02: Arguing with my man is But the arguing with my man is just like I don't know, maybe it's because I it's a little lowbrow, maybe.
23:17
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
23:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like my time to eat my lunch or like my I gotta go to my bathroom or something.
23:22
SPEAKER_01: Like, I I don't know because I gotta argue with my meme.
23:25
SPEAKER_02: My man.
23:25
SPEAKER_02: And I it the comment, if I remember, in the it was like my man comes first or something like, but it was like kind of like my man, my man, my man.
23:34
SPEAKER_01: Um honey, you need a therapist because you're codependent as hell, honey.
23:38
SPEAKER_01: You need to go ahead and put that mess away.
23:42
SPEAKER_02: We might we might not be the three to relate to this.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely not.
23:51
SPEAKER_02: As a I can say as a provider, it is harder for me to step away too, though.
23:56
SPEAKER_02: Like I there's very few that can cover me.
23:59
SPEAKER_02: And so it's like I've really had to like educate my family of you bother me when it's important.
24:06
SPEAKER_02: I will always answer the call, but the first thing I say, I don't even say hi.
24:10
SPEAKER_02: Like if my sister calls, I'm like, is everything okay?
24:12
SPEAKER_02: Is there an emergency?
24:14
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
24:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
24:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm at work by.
24:16
SPEAKER_02: I'll call you.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: And they're always respectful, but sometimes they forget, you know, when you're working.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: But I do the same thing when my sister calls.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: Are you okay?
24:26
SPEAKER_01: She's like, Yeah.
24:27
SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
24:28
SPEAKER_02: Definitely never my man.
24:31
SPEAKER_02: When I was in my twenties even, I would be like, I'm at work by.
24:36
SPEAKER_01: I mean, okay, when my kids were like younger, if their dad was to fizz if I saw like a physical call on my phone, I would pick it up.
24:44
SPEAKER_01: And sometimes if he couldn't get up with me, he would call the charge phone if he knew I was in charge or whatever, if it was something like important.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, which rarely ever happened.
24:55
SPEAKER_01: And that's how it should be.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: But like there's been times when I had to like text and just be like, Look, it's busy.
25:00
SPEAKER_01: I don't, you just have to take care of this and let me know what happens.
25:03
SPEAKER_01: Like I can't.
25:05
SPEAKER_01: So you need to take care of that.
25:09
SPEAKER_01: But just like having an argue, I don't know.
25:12
SPEAKER_01: No.
25:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm just not gonna do that anyway.
25:15
SPEAKER_01: And if you even if you want to have like a serious kumbaya conversation, wait twelve hours.
25:21
SPEAKER_01: Because I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna be present for you because I'm yeah.
25:25
SPEAKER_01: I mean, if it's not busy, then I'm gonna probably be talking with my friends uh first.
25:30
SPEAKER_02: But you know, yeah, that's the other thing.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: If you're texting your man at work fighting with him, like, no, I can't hang out with you.
25:38
SPEAKER_02: I can't hang out with you, but use your work time to talk to the council about how we're going to address this in real time.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm gonna be texting if I'm not busy.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: I like to be texting, but like not arguing.
25:52
SPEAKER_02: No.
25:52
SPEAKER_02: Uh uh be like, this this motherfucker right here wants to start this argument.
25:58
SPEAKER_02: What are we going to say when I get home?
26:00
SPEAKER_02: Let's talk, let's figure it out, let's strategize this, hype me up.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: Like, that's what I would do.
26:07
SPEAKER_02: Don't waste your time.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: Did um didn't have anything, did anybody comment on that saying, like, hey, this is kind of Oh, all the comments were take this down, bad look.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: What are you doing?
26:19
SPEAKER_02: Did that man anime?
26:20
SPEAKER_01: Did that person take it down?
26:21
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
26:22
SPEAKER_02: This is like from a m a month ago.
26:25
SPEAKER_02: Oh you're right though, Abby.
26:28
SPEAKER_01: That's the kind of stuff that gives other people like that other people get crap for because of things like that.
26:33
SPEAKER_01: Where people who take it so far, it's like cle I mean, I I can't speak for her, but it doesn't seem like it seemed like it was to make a point about my patients or not my priority.
26:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: It it was, I think meant to be humorous.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, obviously.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: But it's just not it's just not point blank period.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: No.
26:56
SPEAKER_02: All right.
26:57
SPEAKER_02: Do you want another bad one?
26:59
SPEAKER_02: Discussion.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: You want to be lightened again?
27:02
SPEAKER_02: Lighten me up, honey.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
27:04
SPEAKER_03: Lighten me up.
27:05
SPEAKER_02: Light me up.
27:07
SPEAKER_02: Light it up, baby.
27:08
SPEAKER_01: Light it up, light it up.
27:09
SPEAKER_01: Isn't that a Gwen Stefani song?
27:11
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but if any boat girls want to go, I was like me and me, me and Kaylee are talking about a book.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: Light it up.
27:20
SPEAKER_02: That's okay.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: I haven't seen the line there.
27:25
SPEAKER_02: So on the screen, it's Kaylee, and she got together with one of our nurse friends, and with a green screen, they made this TikTok, and it says, When everything from Huddle starts to sound like your patience from last week.
27:43
SPEAKER_05: Is this fucking play about us?
27:47
SPEAKER_01: Am I the one in trouble?
27:49
SPEAKER_01: And they're making an example out of me.
27:54
SPEAKER_01: Is this play about us?
27:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: Is this play about us?
27:58
SPEAKER_01: Are they talking about us?
28:00
SPEAKER_01: Oh.
28:01
SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Nicole.
28:02
SPEAKER_01: Because she's great.
28:05
SPEAKER_01: I went against sport.
28:06
SPEAKER_01: She did a good job.
28:08
SPEAKER_01: She did.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: So has anybody ever had that where you're at Huddle or maybe you're at a staff meeting or you get a briefing?
28:15
SPEAKER_01: And it's like, hey, reminder, don't do A B C D E.
28:19
SPEAKER_01: And you're like, wait.
28:20
SPEAKER_01: Wait.
28:23
SPEAKER_01: Is that me?
28:23
SPEAKER_01: And you realize it's about you, but they're not like saying your name, but you know it's about you.
28:28
SPEAKER_01: It's it's such a bad feeling.
28:30
SPEAKER_01: You're like, oh my God.
28:32
SPEAKER_01: You're like, ooh, oops.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: I will I have a whole education course for echmocannulations from uh just the perfect storm of nights of oh god.
28:52
SPEAKER_02: Like this there were no supply.
28:55
SPEAKER_01: Like it was it was the bad it was the bad night where y'all had to recannulate that.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: We had to fully recannulate both cannulas, both of these like big tubes going in, train um moving blood in and out of the patient went down.
29:10
SPEAKER_02: They both clotted off like really bad, like in a way that no one's ever seen.
29:15
SPEAKER_02: The supply cart that housed the the supplies broke, like no one could get in.
29:20
SPEAKER_02: Like we were trying to like physically break it open, like the drawers were stuck because it's one of those carts where only one drawer can be open at a time, and it got stuck like just the tiniest bit open, so we couldn't open anything at all.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: Like we had one nurse um found a screwdriver and was literally trying to like unscrew the side panel so we could get into the supplies.
29:44
SPEAKER_01: What a nightmare.
29:46
SPEAKER_02: The other cart was locked in the OR, so we had someone trying to get into the OR.
29:52
SPEAKER_02: Like, we're I mean, we were trying everything, then we had to like piece things together.
29:58
SPEAKER_02: Um and then a whole lot.
30:01
SPEAKER_01: They made it work, is what happened.
30:03
SPEAKER_02: They got the patient recutulated and saved the patient's life, and they were fine, like they were nothing that became of it.
30:10
SPEAKER_02: They were they were saved, they were fine, there were no bad outcomes from this.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: Do want to highlight that zero bad outcomes, and we did what we had to to save their life in that moment.
30:20
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, there's a whole I call it the Abbey section.
30:24
SPEAKER_02: Like, this is this is from our night.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: And they're like, this is it, was like all of this like information about recannulating a patient.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: Recantulating.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: I think there were some extra wet drills involved, possibly.
30:40
SPEAKER_01: Lots of new stuff rolled out.
30:42
SPEAKER_01: But you know what?
30:43
SPEAKER_01: The best thing about that was because the patient was fine, that was a best case scenario because that was obviously all stuff that needed to be addressed, and it just all happened to happen in one night.
30:53
SPEAKER_01: But it actually was for the it was for the good because everything, a lot of that stuff got addressed, got you know, drilled down, and I don't think there's been a night like that since then.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: So no, we got a different supply card where you don't have to have one drawer open.
31:09
SPEAKER_01: Do you remember Amanda some years ago when there was a mention in like our weekly staff meeting briefing thing about um rumors going around or people were complaining that certain people were eating like breakfast together?
31:23
SPEAKER_01: I remember I'm sure you're I'm sure you're right, but not there was something and it was like there's been um a thing going around about a certain group of people who are getting breakfast when they work together and people don't like it or something.
31:38
SPEAKER_01: So people should stop doing that.
31:39
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Well, you had a 15-minute break in the morning?
31:42
SPEAKER_01: You didn't say with whom you remember this?
31:45
SPEAKER_01: That's the only time I can think of specifically where I thought, like, is this about me?
31:50
SPEAKER_01: And it was, I think it was about us.
31:52
SPEAKER_01: Never confirmed, but I'm pretty sure.
31:54
SPEAKER_01: Oh, we had the we had to like all either not take our 15-minute break or like do it separately because it was making people mad.
32:02
SPEAKER_01: You don't remember what?
32:03
SPEAKER_01: I really don't.
32:04
SPEAKER_01: Hold on.
32:05
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna wrap my brain.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: I really don't.
32:08
SPEAKER_01: I even remember.
32:10
SPEAKER_01: Before COVID.
32:11
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
32:13
SPEAKER_02: I I do think like with this though, like this is how things in healthcare get figured out.
32:19
SPEAKER_02: Like, there are not that like mistakes are made, but you find these gaps because like you cannot plan for what actually happens in the real world.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: Like even writers of TV shows and say will like will say you cannot truly write real life because real life is just so crazy that it's yeah, like this is how policies get made in healthcare.
32:42
SPEAKER_02: This is how new education is found, this is how like, and that's why like people systems want you to report things.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: Um I do okay, I've never that I that I know of had like an SI put in about me of something that I wasn't aware of that had like happened.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
33:01
SPEAKER_01: Like maybe I had to put in an SI on my own patient because of something that happened, like a safety event, whatever you guys call your reporting.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: But for the most part, I feel like I I know if something has gone down, if if I was working.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: But even with all of that, like I every time there's um a report of like an SI or like a new safety event or something, my first thought's always like, was that me?
33:22
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I don't know why I'm so irrationally scared of getting in trouble.
33:25
SPEAKER_01: Because it's I mean, like, I feel like I would know, but also people won't tell you to your face if they find something, they just write the SI and they will always ask us if it's something cut and dry.
33:35
SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, I still I'm like, was that me?
33:37
SPEAKER_01: Was I doing something wrong?
33:39
SPEAKER_01: Is this in there because of me?
33:40
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm a firm advocator of if there's something that I've done wrong, just come tell me.
33:45
SPEAKER_01: What a what a thought.
33:47
SPEAKER_01: But also if the need an SI needs to get placed, also please.
33:51
SPEAKER_01: But I think I appreciate your accountability and introspection, but it's like to a fall sometimes.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: No, it's irrational.
33:58
SPEAKER_01: But it is funny though, because when we used to have big staff meetings and we all had to come in person, they'll talk about stuff and it's quote unquote anonymous, but you can see everybody like everybody's kind of looking like I know what that is, or someone's like, Yeah, it was me.
34:14
SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, that's me.
34:15
SPEAKER_01: I would have probably been like, Yeah, that was me.
34:18
SPEAKER_01: How come no one told me?
34:19
SPEAKER_01: Hello.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: And let me tell you why.
34:21
SPEAKER_01: No, but I just feel like that's probably something that a lot of people could relate to.
34:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
34:27
SPEAKER_02: The provider level though, it's it's blatantly obvious.
34:31
SPEAKER_02: Like you can't even bet so obvious, you can't even cover it.
34:35
SPEAKER_02: And like most of us in any sort of like this or that, like big meeting, small meeting, whatever, it like the the provider, doctor, nurse practitioner, PA, whoever, usually will be like, that was me, and let me add more context to what happened.
34:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was like, that's not even what happened.
34:57
SPEAKER_02: That's not all of what happened.
34:59
SPEAKER_02: Let me explain this.
35:02
SPEAKER_02: Let me tell you the rest.
35:05
SPEAKER_02: Actually, let me tell you what happened.
35:06
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
35:07
SPEAKER_02: I think it's so interesting because it's like on the nursing side, yeah, everyone's like, hush, hush.
35:12
SPEAKER_02: Like, is this about me?
35:13
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, is this about me?
35:15
SPEAKER_02: Don't say anything, don't draw attention to it.
35:17
SPEAKER_02: But then when I started entering like the provider realm and having to be part of it, it's let me tell you this, and I'm like, dang, like they just own it.
35:26
SPEAKER_02: They're just like, own it.
35:29
SPEAKER_02: Let me provide context.
35:31
SPEAKER_02: So, all right.
35:32
SPEAKER_02: This one is because we're filming this around Nurses Week, so I feel like this will be a good one for you guys.
35:40
SPEAKER_02: Uh uh.
35:40
SPEAKER_02: This ought to be good.
35:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love them.
35:44
SPEAKER_02: So, just on the screen for those listening, it says interviewing nurses from different specialty for nurse week.
35:49
SPEAKER_02: And this is Nurse John, a very, very famous TikToker.
35:52
SPEAKER_05: Hi guys, my name is Nurse Ari, and I have been a PQ nurse for five years now.
35:56
SPEAKER_05: And for this nursing week, we received this from management.
36:00
SPEAKER_05: It's a piece of clothing.
36:01
SPEAKER_05: Apparently, during the hard days, just use this to wipe our tears down.
36:07
SPEAKER_05: Nurse Joy, and I've been a psych nurse now for seven years, and for this year of nursing week, we received um a raffle ticket, and whoever wins will be able to be nominated for the day so.
36:20
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
36:22
SPEAKER_05: Hi everyone, my name is Nurse.
36:24
SPEAKER_05: I've been a cardiac nurse now for 10 years, and for this year's nursing week, we got scolded for noting the whiteboard before we started.
36:44
SPEAKER_01: Uh he cracks me up.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: The circles and the wigs that are just like so brighty.
36:51
SPEAKER_01: I know.
36:51
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: And like the longer you've been there, sometimes the darker the circle.
36:56
SPEAKER_01: Or after night shift when he's in the car.
36:59
SPEAKER_01: Oh, he's so good.
37:01
SPEAKER_01: But oh the the cloth got me too.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
37:05
SPEAKER_01: To to wipe our tears.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: To wipe our tears.
37:10
SPEAKER_01: The the nursing week gifts have been interesting over the years.
37:14
SPEAKER_02: I like seeing it on social media.
37:16
SPEAKER_02: Like I really like seeing every nurses week.
37:19
SPEAKER_02: I get a kick out of seeing what people um do.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: So it's always it's like nurses week right up to Mother's Day, and it's like just you hear me while I'm talking down.
37:39
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like just maybe.
37:42
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you're here that day.
37:44
SPEAKER_01: Well you can go to breakfast if you have time to get away from your patients, but not with that other nurse because y'all already eat together.
37:49
SPEAKER_01: And if you're not here, you know, thanks for working here, I guess.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: It is I don't know.
37:53
SPEAKER_01: I never really feel like Nurses Week is that great for us, but maybe other people have different experiences.
37:59
SPEAKER_01: I think uh there are different hospitals, different floors that do their own thing for Nurses Week.
38:09
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's really special.
38:11
SPEAKER_01: And it's unfortunate because like the managers sh are also nurses, they should also be loved on.
38:17
SPEAKER_01: But there are stories that I've heard where managers have come in to do like the baths for the day.
38:26
SPEAKER_01: Or um putting your name and a hat for the schedule of your choice and you know, things like that, like things that actually impact the nurses.
38:40
SPEAKER_01: Like if you come in and take something off my plate for the day, oh that's nice, you know, versus a little gift that I probably wouldn't use and you've wasted your money, you know.
38:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:56
SPEAKER_02: The spectrum on social media of some of the gifts is just funny.
39:02
SPEAKER_02: Like the facilities that give a rock and then say, because you're a rock is always yeah.
39:08
SPEAKER_01: Like why why would why would you do that?
39:10
SPEAKER_01: It's a slap in the face.
39:12
SPEAKER_01: Like you're gonna give people rocks?
39:15
SPEAKER_01: That seems dangerous.
39:19
SPEAKER_02: Ooh.
39:22
SPEAKER_02: But have you seen those?
39:23
SPEAKER_02: I mean, ours hasn't.
39:25
SPEAKER_02: I just didn't think that was real.
39:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, it's is real.
39:28
SPEAKER_01: There is no way.
39:29
SPEAKER_01: I think they there's no way to ask us or something, and it's like everybody would say something about parking, and they're like, we're not fucking asking them anymore.
39:36
SPEAKER_01: All they ever care about is getting a better parking spot.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: We're not gonna do it.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: So whatever, get a teabag and not even coffee.
39:43
SPEAKER_02: Like triggered, triggered, triggering moment.
39:48
SPEAKER_01: And the thing is, there are multiple people that sign off.
39:52
SPEAKER_01: It ain't just one person making a decision.
39:54
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how many people there are, but there is not just one person making this decision.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: It is signed off amongst many people.
40:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they all think it's I don't even know.
40:03
SPEAKER_01: I I don't even want to criticize for like a gift or something, but it I think it's hard too when it's like, you know, we work weird schedules, so everybody's not gonna be there.
40:12
SPEAKER_01: Like you what you need to do is you need to pick something that can be a little nice, a little special, and you have to do it every day, every shift.
40:19
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
40:19
SPEAKER_01: So that everybody gets to experience it.
40:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:21
SPEAKER_01: If you want to have a lunch provided, I think that's great.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: But if it's only on Wednesday, well, there's only 26 people that are gonna benefit.
40:29
SPEAKER_01: Because they send an email out.
40:30
SPEAKER_01: It's like if you want to join, I'm like, well, I'm not coming up there on my day off.
40:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:34
SPEAKER_02: I also think that providers need to do a better job.
40:39
SPEAKER_02: Like the doctors and the nurse practitioners and the PAs, like, we do need to do a better job doing our own thing and coming together and doing our own thing.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's not just on admin to thank the nurses.
40:53
SPEAKER_02: You help us.
40:54
SPEAKER_02: You are on our team.
40:55
SPEAKER_02: We should be thanking you.
40:56
SPEAKER_02: And in my opinion, as a provider, whether you're a doctor or a APP, we're the leader at the bedside, so we should be doing something.
41:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you remember the year I made the homemade marshmallows for everyone.
41:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: So sweet.
41:16
SPEAKER_01: That was really nice.
41:17
SPEAKER_02: But like very nice.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: Um also, I don't know if this is just for our state or what, but our nurses week is also the same week as teacher's week here.
41:25
SPEAKER_01: Um which is interesting.
41:29
SPEAKER_01: Because it's like, okay, it's my it's it's nurses week, but then like with me and my kids, I'm like, well, it's teacher appreciation week.
41:35
SPEAKER_01: So like I need to do something for them.
41:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, and they need it and they deserve it too, but it's like you don't even get your own week.
41:42
SPEAKER_01: The teachers don't even get their own week.
41:44
SPEAKER_02: So it doesn't always fall exactly the same because nurses week doesn't fall on a Monday.
41:51
SPEAKER_02: Like teacher teacher appreciation week, I think is like the first full week of May.
41:57
SPEAKER_02: I'd have to go and look it up.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: Nurses Week is the seven days up to May 12th because May 12th is Florence Nightingale's birthday.
42:08
SPEAKER_02: Um the mother of nursing.
42:11
SPEAKER_02: So Nurses Week does not Nurses Week starts on May 6th, no matter what day of the week it is.
42:17
SPEAKER_02: That is the seven days.
42:18
SPEAKER_02: Some facilities will choose like the Monday closest to the 12th and call those seven days it, but it is the seven days leading up to May 12th.
42:28
SPEAKER_02: If you were curious about the history of the world, I was, but they do overlap.
42:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:33
SPEAKER_02: They do.
42:33
SPEAKER_02: There is always going to be some overlap.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: There are some times when it like May first falls on a Monday, and then teachers will get like that whole first week up until like Saturday, and then there's just the two days.
42:48
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, that's why I don't know why we're a teacher appreciation week game, other than it's like the last month of the school year, and they were probably like, we gotta do something to keep these teachers going this last month.
43:01
SPEAKER_02: That's poor.
43:03
SPEAKER_01: I know they deserve it all, those teachers.
43:06
SPEAKER_01: Hats off to every teacher out there.
43:08
SPEAKER_01: They have such a big job.
43:11
SPEAKER_01: You know, there's been years when I didn't even know that nurses week had happened until I got like a card in the mail from like a family member.
43:17
SPEAKER_01: And I had gone to work and I never knew that it was nurses week, either because I was so busy or I was just like unaware, or it obviously was not made like into a big thing.
43:26
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I didn't even know that it was nurses week.
43:30
SPEAKER_01: Oh well, you know, it's like whatever, what are you gonna do?
43:32
SPEAKER_02: I keep that on my calendar and I remind my husband.
43:36
SPEAKER_02: He did, I will I will give him a shout out.
43:38
SPEAKER_02: He did uh when I was a bedside nurse, he would send pizza up when I was working and he would he would have the pizza hut right happy nurses week on the inside of the box for us.
43:52
SPEAKER_02: See, that's sweet.
43:53
SPEAKER_01: That's so sweet.
43:54
SPEAKER_01: So sweet.
43:55
SPEAKER_02: Good job.
43:56
SPEAKER_02: How nice.
43:57
SPEAKER_02: How nice.
43:58
SPEAKER_02: I love that for you.
44:01
SPEAKER_02: I think this is a good one to end with you, ICU nurses.
44:06
SPEAKER_02: All right.
44:06
SPEAKER_02: And this is Lindsay.
44:09
SPEAKER_02: She is another really big TikToker.
44:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:13
SPEAKER_02: And it says, the only thing that truly scares me as an ICU nurse on the screen.
44:19
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: Sasha Miller.
44:21
SPEAKER_00: She's a 31-year-old female.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: She's young.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: I know, right?
44:25
SPEAKER_00: So she was brought in by ambulance to the ER for feeling fatigue and was diagnosed with sepsis, essentially.
44:31
SPEAKER_00: You can read the notes, but she's pregnant.
44:34
SPEAKER_00: And no, she's pregnant.
44:36
SPEAKER_00: It's not a big deal, though.
44:37
SPEAKER_00: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: Why isn't she on the L and D floor?
44:40
SPEAKER_00: Because she's really close to being due.
44:42
SPEAKER_00: She's pregnant.
44:43
SPEAKER_00: Don't worry.
44:44
SPEAKER_00: She's here?
44:45
SPEAKER_00: She's my patient?
44:46
SPEAKER_00: I I don't have kids.
44:47
SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't know how that works.
44:48
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't do rubber funness.
44:52
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
44:54
SPEAKER_00: Like her bubbly never looked it up.
44:56
unknown: But I don't know.
44:58
SPEAKER_01: Aww.
45:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's definitely not um a warm and fuzzy feeling to take care of patients that are pregnant, but I feel like that's where I get put.
45:08
SPEAKER_01: Like that's where Yeah, because you're woo-woo.
45:12
SPEAKER_01: What do you mean?
45:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:13
SPEAKER_02: Cause your mama.
45:14
SPEAKER_02: Well because your mama I just don't think no duh.
45:19
SPEAKER_02: You probably should have been an L and D nurse.
45:21
SPEAKER_02: I did consider it.
45:23
SPEAKER_01: Because I do have a huge passion for breastfeeding, as those close to me know.
45:28
SPEAKER_01: Um but you know, I don't know.
45:31
SPEAKER_01: It it's not a comfortable feeling, but I I would imagine there would be scarier things personally for me.
45:37
SPEAKER_01: Um but it's pitiful.
45:39
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's pitiful to have someone who's having who's pregnant, but there's usually an L and D nurse up there, especially if they're X amount of weeks along and further, you know, there's somebody there monitoring, so that's nice.
45:49
SPEAKER_01: She's like, I can't deliver a baby.
45:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, do you think there aren't gonna be people bowling you over to have a chance to deliver this baby if it starts to come?
45:56
SPEAKER_01: Right.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: She has spiral.
45:58
SPEAKER_01: This has spiraled.
45:59
SPEAKER_01: This has be some somebody who's like, oh yeah, I've done that, or I I'm gonna do that.
46:03
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I'm gonna get all the way out of the room.
46:05
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
46:05
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, let me get out of your way.
46:07
SPEAKER_01: No, no, I will not.
46:08
SPEAKER_01: I will stand with my patient with my back to the action and I'll hold her hand and that is what I will contribute.
46:14
SPEAKER_01: Honey, I'll hold a leg.
46:15
SPEAKER_01: It's fine.
46:15
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, we wouldn't be holding legs in that moment.
46:18
SPEAKER_01: They'd be cutting, but um, you know, yeah, it's fine.
46:21
SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
46:21
SPEAKER_01: That's funny.
46:22
SPEAKER_01: Everybody does have like those things that are like the thing that scares them.
46:26
SPEAKER_02: It it is very real in the like, oh, I I don't do that.
46:30
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't do that.
46:32
SPEAKER_02: Like, I think another one that we've that I've seen is when we have um a little person.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: Like we've had a couple, and I just remember we had to put in a central line, but it's obviously size-wise, it's not the same.
46:50
SPEAKER_02: So we had to get a pediatric one, and we were freaking out.
46:56
SPEAKER_02: We're like, this isn't we we can't do the central line, we cannot put this in.
47:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm not qualified.
47:02
SPEAKER_02: You've given me like the kit is uh smaller than my IV start kit in the ICU, and you want me to put this as a central line?
47:11
SPEAKER_02: Like, what do you mean?
47:12
SPEAKER_02: And then we pulled it out and it looked like an IV, like it was so little.
47:16
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, how do I do this?
47:20
SPEAKER_02: And they're like, just like you would a central line.
47:23
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, no, no, yeah, it's just so different.
47:30
SPEAKER_01: Um, and the flip side of that is sometimes we get rarely, but sometimes we will get patients who are maybe you know, 16, 17, who are children size-wise, they are more like close to an adult size, and so sometimes they'll like weigh the options of things, and if everybody agrees, they'll put them in the adult ICU and then then that's it.
47:49
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
47:50
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
47:51
SPEAKER_01: Hold the fucking phone.
47:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't do peeds.
47:53
SPEAKER_01: They're like, no, no, no, it's fine.
47:54
SPEAKER_01: Wait, their weights.
47:55
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I'm okay.
47:57
SPEAKER_01: No, that's that's a child.
47:59
SPEAKER_01: That's a child.
48:00
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely not.
48:00
SPEAKER_01: I don't do peds, I don't do bones, I don't do traumas.
48:03
SPEAKER_01: There are people that thrive off of a trauma.
48:06
SPEAKER_01: And also, my hat's off to you.
48:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm so glad that God made you the way you are.
48:10
SPEAKER_01: It ain't me.
48:11
SPEAKER_01: It ain't my story, it ain't my journey, it's nothing that I can't imagine working in the ED and a trauma day, and there's an actual bone popping out of somebody.
48:22
SPEAKER_01: And it's a child.
48:23
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm clocked out.
48:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm giving rapport, I'm clocking out.
48:27
SPEAKER_01: And I'm calling my therapist because I have just experienced my own.
48:31
SPEAKER_01: Oh no.
48:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm with you, cats off of them because I I feel like that would be hard.
48:36
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
48:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it turns my stomach.
48:40
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
48:41
SPEAKER_01: I love Lindsay's TikToks and stuff.
48:42
SPEAKER_01: They're so funny.
48:43
SPEAKER_01: They are.
48:44
SPEAKER_01: I'd say good.
48:45
SPEAKER_01: She's good.
48:46
SPEAKER_01: She was a good actress.
48:47
SPEAKER_01: She is like in it.
48:48
SPEAKER_01: She's like totally taken on the role of being freaked out.
48:51
SPEAKER_01: She did a good job.
48:52
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes she busts out her wigs too.
48:54
SPEAKER_01: It makes me laugh.
48:55
SPEAKER_02: I love a wig.
48:57
SPEAKER_02: When I'm gonna start doing more wig videos just for you and shock you with them.
49:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh gosh.
49:02
SPEAKER_01: It was like the wigs that I had.
49:04
SPEAKER_01: I only have one left from Halloween, and it's a Snape wig.
49:08
SPEAKER_01: That would be funny though.
49:11
SPEAKER_01: Doing like a Snape impersonation.
49:14
SPEAKER_01: Just Snape as the doctor, Snape as the nurse, as the nurse, snipe as the patient.
49:18
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
49:20
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
49:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because he's like all dark, and then you can he gets a little squishy there always.
49:27
SPEAKER_01: What did she go get?
49:30
SPEAKER_01: I don't even know why I'm gonna go.
49:31
SPEAKER_01: Curly Sue.
49:32
SPEAKER_02: Curly Sue.
49:33
SPEAKER_02: My hair.
49:36
SPEAKER_02: Like all I would mean to do would be.
49:38
SPEAKER_01: It is curly Sue.
49:39
SPEAKER_01: Have you are y'all old enough to know that?
49:41
SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
49:41
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
49:42
SPEAKER_01: It's actually uh not a bad look.
49:45
SPEAKER_01: I know it's not bad.
49:46
SPEAKER_01: It's like 70s.
49:48
SPEAKER_01: It's like 90s country.
49:52
SPEAKER_01: Maybe just because I remember I I so associated the country music and all with your last wig, but yeah.
49:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
50:01
SPEAKER_01: Like a like a cheers.
50:02
SPEAKER_01: Well, who is the character on cheers?
50:04
SPEAKER_01: You know, it is it is a person.
50:07
SPEAKER_02: I think it is an 80s wig, so it should be like 80s perm.
50:11
SPEAKER_01: It looks like yeah, like late 70s, early 80s situation.
50:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you need to do something with that right there.
50:16
SPEAKER_01: Because that's that's good.
50:17
SPEAKER_01: I like that one too.
50:18
SPEAKER_01: God, it just makes it so good.
50:20
SPEAKER_01: The wig.
50:21
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
50:23
SPEAKER_02: So now you've seen some TikToks though, Amanda.
50:26
SPEAKER_02: Like, what are your thoughts?
50:28
SPEAKER_02: You've seen us, you've seen other people.
50:31
SPEAKER_02: What do you think?
50:32
SPEAKER_02: Do you think you're missing out?
50:34
SPEAKER_02: You're going to join us, or you're gonna stay peaceful.
50:38
SPEAKER_01: You know, there's pros and cons.
50:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna be honest.
50:41
SPEAKER_01: There's pros and cons to all kinds of things, social media.
50:43
SPEAKER_01: Um, I definitely think these are all pros.
50:46
SPEAKER_01: I do, I do find there to be a lot of humor in this.
50:49
SPEAKER_01: And I could see how people, I mean, I don't have an addictive personality, but I could see how people get lost in it.
50:55
SPEAKER_01: You know, I hear people say, like, I'll be on it, and you hours go by and I just realize I've been on it the whole time.
51:01
SPEAKER_01: You know, you have to have a a line somewhere in the sense of like viewing it.
51:08
SPEAKER_01: But making it, I bet is so fun.
51:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
51:11
SPEAKER_02: I have fun making them.
51:14
SPEAKER_02: No, it's so stupid.
51:16
SPEAKER_01: It's I but I love it.
51:18
SPEAKER_01: But I love it.
51:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
51:19
SPEAKER_01: No, I mean like it's just like you can't care about looking stupid.
51:24
SPEAKER_01: No.
51:25
SPEAKER_01: I I like I've given up on that.
51:26
SPEAKER_01: I was like, it's whatever, it's funny.
51:28
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't even care.
51:29
SPEAKER_01: But I I'm an embarrassing person, so I just think you get to a point too where you just don't care.
51:35
SPEAKER_01: Like you get to an age where it's like, I mean, okay.
51:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
51:40
SPEAKER_02: I just think they're so it's so funny, and then it's like, oh, I haven't died.
51:45
SPEAKER_02: Like I've put out this wig one and I have not died, so it's okay.
51:50
SPEAKER_02: Like no one came, no one killed me.
51:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nothing happened.
51:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, you can get recorded, uh, you know, and you're not gonna die.
52:01
SPEAKER_02: No.
52:01
SPEAKER_02: It's fine.
52:02
SPEAKER_02: There's more important things in life than that.
52:07
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
52:08
SPEAKER_02: I do think like it is fun, it is a good outlet, it's a good creative outlet, it's a good community-building outlet, but again, just like making sure that you're not punching down to the patients that you're sure giving us a bad look of like the one like arguing with my man, like yeah, that one is a no, a hard no, yeah.
52:31
SPEAKER_02: Also, I mean, who wants to put out there that you're just like prioritizing your man over your job?
52:40
SPEAKER_02: Over your job, over your financial security.
52:42
SPEAKER_02: Mm-mm, not me.
52:45
SPEAKER_01: No, especially when you look like a little baby.
52:47
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if she looked real young.
52:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know.
52:50
SPEAKER_01: She did look really young.
52:51
SPEAKER_01: Well, this has been fun.
52:54
SPEAKER_01: I love these.
52:55
SPEAKER_01: I love these.
52:56
SPEAKER_01: These are my favorite.
52:58
SPEAKER_01: And if anybody out there is listening or watching and you have like a funny reel that maybe you say do you think you that we would like or that we could put on our next one, you can always um send it to us um on your page.
53:08
SPEAKER_02: On our website, you can send us you can contact us on our website, banter at the bedside.com, and you can send us an email, questions, comments.
53:17
SPEAKER_02: Do you agree with our reactions and send us some to react to?
53:21
SPEAKER_02: You want to hear we got woo-woo, we got pragmatic, and we got funny on here.
53:26
SPEAKER_01: We're yeah, and I will more than likely, I don't want to say definitely, but more than likely we'll have never seen anything that you send in.
53:35
SPEAKER_01: So it will truly be blind.
53:37
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: But we want to continue to react and talk about what's real and what's not real about these.
53:45
SPEAKER_02: I think that's the important part is the breaking down of it too, and giving our honest thoughts on it.
53:51
SPEAKER_02: But from all of us shift talkers here at banter at the bedside, until next time.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: Bye.
53:58
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53:58
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54:05
SPEAKER_02: Bye.
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SPEAKER_03: Step into the light where the stories come.