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The Late Debate | 20 October · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Lake Debate. Good evening and welcome to
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Speaker 1: the program. I'm Caleb Bond with Frei Leitch and Joe Hildebrand.
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Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up tonight. Victorian premieres Center Allen says
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Speaker 1: the Melbourne CBD is safe, but I'm sure you saw
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Speaker 1: what happened there yesterday. The cops didn't miss the left
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Speaker 1: wing protesters. And despite the fact that the place is
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Speaker 1: definitely safe, Miss Allen is bringing in new rules. More
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Speaker 1: on that soon. Anthony Albinizi has hit the United States
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Speaker 1: to meet with Donald Trump, and meanwhile China is firing
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Speaker 1: flares extremely close to our DOAAF jets. More on that
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Speaker 1: in the papers. And the man who ate so many
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Speaker 1: lollies that, in his own words, he was bunged up
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Speaker 1: and had to spend six days in hospital. That's later.
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Speaker 1: May I suggest that you don't eat three kilograms of
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Speaker 1: lollies while you're watching the late Debate tonight, but you
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Speaker 1: may well need something to steal you and get you
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Speaker 1: through the program. After we talk about this topic, which
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Speaker 1: is the donations that climate two hundred candidates, and of
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Speaker 1: course they are mostly till candidates received during the federal
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Speaker 1: election now in total, it was nine point four million
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Speaker 1: dollars worth of donations that was given to Climate two hundred,
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Speaker 1: including significant personal donations that were given to a number
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Speaker 1: of these TILL candidates. Sow, there's a thread called Fred,
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Speaker 1: a guy I should say, called Fred Woollard. And he
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Speaker 1: gave Nicolette Buller in Sydney seventy five thousand dollars. He
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Speaker 1: gave Zalie Stegel, a leg Respender, Sophie Scots, Manique Ryan,
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Speaker 1: they all got fifty k h over in Western Australia.
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Speaker 1: Kate Cheney got seventy five thousand dollars from this one guy.
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Speaker 1: He even donated six hundred and sixty six thousand dollars
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Speaker 1: the number of the bench total I was going to say,
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Speaker 1: six six six six.
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Speaker 2: He wore.
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Speaker 1: Tells you a lot, doesn't it. Because it turns out
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Speaker 1: the man who gave six six six thousand dollars to
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Speaker 1: these TILL candidates is in fact an investor in oil
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Speaker 1: and fossil fuel projects. See, he's got a number of
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Speaker 1: different companies. One is called Keep Them Honest Proprietary Limited,
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Speaker 1: which is what we're doing to him tonight. And also
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Speaker 1: he's the managing director of Samuel Terry Asset Management, which
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Speaker 1: has investments in oil and offshore drilling companies. He's got
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Speaker 1: investments in Karun and Horizon, which are oil produces, and
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Speaker 1: there's an offshore drilling company called Noble Corp that he
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Speaker 1: has investments in. So I suppose the question really must
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Speaker 1: be to nicolete Buller and Zalie Stegel and Monique Rahan
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Speaker 1: and a Legraspender and Sophie Scomps and Cape Cheney if
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Speaker 1: you are there as climate candidates, as of course they are.
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Speaker 1: They're they're supported by Climate two hundred, it's basically their
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Speaker 1: modus operandi. Should they be giving these sizeable donations back
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Speaker 1: because you would not want to be receiving the dirty
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Speaker 1: money of oil and drilling investors, would you.
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Speaker 3: Well, of course they should, and if they had a
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Speaker 3: shred of integrity they would, But of course they won't
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Speaker 3: because it's not really about integrity for them. But I
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Speaker 3: really do question. I mean, we talk about the teals
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Speaker 3: should be giving this money back, but how dare this
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Speaker 3: man profit off oil and gas, profit of Australia's natural
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Speaker 3: resources and then pull the ladder up from under him
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Speaker 3: by supporting candidates that want to shut down the very
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Speaker 3: things that made him wealthy. So he's going to make
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Speaker 3: money off our collective natural resources. But say now the
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Speaker 3: rest of you, the rest of the country, good luck.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that is just so unfair. And the other
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Speaker 3: point here is I think it does speak to how
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Speaker 3: out of touch the liberal elites are in some of
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Speaker 3: our capital cities. I mean, the Teal donors come from
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Speaker 3: among the richest people in Australia, the Lassian founders, the
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Speaker 3: Canva founders, I mean, so many of these ultra wealthy people.
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Speaker 3: Yet everyone attacks the Liberal Party saying, oh, you're for
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Speaker 3: big business. Why aren't you putting that same level of
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Speaker 3: scrutiny on the Teals who are being bankrolled by the
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Speaker 3: inner city elite.
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Speaker 2: That's absolutely right.
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Speaker 4: And also, I mean you've raised an interesting question, but
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Speaker 4: is he really pulling the ladder up from behind him?
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Speaker 4: Because from my reading of the stories, these are still
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Speaker 4: ongoing interests that his company is investing in. So what
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Speaker 4: has he to gain from donating to the Teals? Why
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Speaker 4: is he doing it? Who benefits?
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Speaker 1: Well, give me to guilt.
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Speaker 2: A sage you're.
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Speaker 4: Guild or maybe as we've seen happen, you know, does
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Speaker 4: he have access to them. Does he get to talk
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Speaker 4: to them at fundraisers? Does he get to say, look,
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Speaker 4: if you're.
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Speaker 2: Gonna we know.
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Speaker 4: For example, I think Kate Cheney you mentioned who holds
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Speaker 4: the seat of curtain in wa I think it is
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Speaker 4: and I'm going off the top of my head, so
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Speaker 4: i forget details wrong. But she I don't know where
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Speaker 4: she landed. But she's under a huge amount of pressure
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Speaker 4: not to block the approval for the Northwest Shelf.
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Speaker 2: Project or not.
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Speaker 4: So she can't block it in the Lower House because
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Speaker 4: Anthony Alberaneze has seven eighty six seeds. But but you know,
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Speaker 4: whether she was supported or not, and she's kind of
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Speaker 4: been sort of flip flopping a bit on it. Now, if,
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Speaker 4: for example, a company like you know, the ones that
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Speaker 4: Fred Willard has interest in having to have an interest
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Speaker 4: in that particular you know, a particular I'm not saying
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Speaker 4: he does, but a particular you know, offshore oil or
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Speaker 4: gas site, but not another one.
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Speaker 2: Do you say, oh, well, yeah, no, that one's.
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Speaker 4: Terrible, but ours is really environmentally friendly, so let our
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Speaker 4: one go through. I mean you don't make I mean
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Speaker 4: you don't make donations out of the goodness of your hand.
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Speaker 1: Normally you make a political donation, and big companies do it,
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Speaker 1: the corporate world does that. Individuals do it out of
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Speaker 1: some level of self interest. Now that might be normally
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Speaker 1: at an individual level as well. I believe in this
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Speaker 1: sided politics, so I'll give you a couple of bucks
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Speaker 1: to help them out. But when you've got companies doing
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Speaker 1: it in particular, usually it's because they want access, or
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Speaker 1: they want a Curry favor, or they're building a relationship.
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Speaker 1: And when you look at the teals, a lot of
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Speaker 1: the largest donors to Climate two hundred and the Teals
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Speaker 1: are people and companies that are involved in the energy sector.
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Speaker 1: And this is always and Simon Holmes of Court, who
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Speaker 1: set up Climate two hundred to bankroll these teal candidates,
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Speaker 1: is himself a large investor in the renewable energy sector.
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Speaker 1: And I've always found it so funny that they're builders
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Speaker 1: though they're the climate change candidates. And I've always felt
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Speaker 1: they're actually just propped up by people who want to
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Speaker 1: make money out of renewable energy. Who really cares about
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Speaker 1: the environmental outcomes. It's always been about supporting the money
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Speaker 1: making ventures of certain companies and individuals.
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Speaker 4: Why we need more oil drillers like friends will come
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Speaker 4: back the tills and set them on the straight.
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Speaker 3: Well, maybe he's just a realist and he knows that
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Speaker 3: the climate two hundred policies will never work, So why
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Speaker 3: not continue to keep investing no oil and gas because
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Speaker 3: we're gonna need it, and don't we all know that.
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Speaker 2: The ten But I'll keep the old Ford exactly right.
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Speaker 3: Well, in Victoria over the weekend there was the March
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Speaker 3: for Australia protests, which saw thousands of Australian patriots come
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Speaker 3: out with their Aussie flags and they were met by
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Speaker 3: some horrendously violent counter protests who brand themselves as antifa
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Speaker 3: anti fascist. But in reality what actually happened was two
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Speaker 3: officers were injured. A female police officer had her hand broken,
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Speaker 3: a male officer had a deep gash. Police were pelted
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Speaker 3: with objects, some so hard that they actually shattered their
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Speaker 3: riot shields. So here was the Victorian police commander calling
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Speaker 3: out finally these left wing protesters, the.
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Speaker 5: People that came to pick the foot were police, were
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Speaker 5: the issue motivated groups on the left. I can tell
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Speaker 5: you that the March for Australia group, they were peaceful,
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Speaker 5: they were engaging, they listened to air instructions, they did
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Speaker 5: what they were told and they protested. By example, these
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Speaker 5: were being thrown at police. Bottles filled with shards of
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Speaker 5: glass were being thrown at the police. Bins were put
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Speaker 5: on fire, flags were on fire, and I think, you know, really,
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Speaker 5: enough's enough now.
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Speaker 3: In response, Victoria Victoria's announced some new laws prohibiting face
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Speaker 3: masks protests, also people forming human chains and gluing themselves
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Speaker 3: to infrastructure in an attempt to minimize damage. But what's
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Speaker 3: interesting is the way some of the media has covered
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Speaker 3: that particular press conference. A lot of them have actually
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Speaker 3: emitted the part where he said it was the left,
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Speaker 3: and as they've put that press conference up, they've run
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Speaker 3: olay like images of the March for Australia crowd. I
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Speaker 3: create the idea that it was them that actually came
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Speaker 3: with the violent intention, which is so wrong. You heard
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Speaker 3: it there clear as day. It was only one side
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Speaker 3: that rocked up with the intention of causing chaos and
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Speaker 3: harm to a group, by the way the police, but
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Speaker 3: also the March for Australia crab which had children, it
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Speaker 3: had families, people just there to be proud of their country.
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Speaker 3: So Caleb, I think this is just a sign of
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Speaker 3: how horribly anarchical, anarchic Victoria's become.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, as they say, don't let the truth
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Speaker 1: get in the way of a good story. And this
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Speaker 1: was always going to be the end result of what
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Speaker 1: has happened in Victoria for a long time. And think
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Speaker 1: back to oh, geez, what is it four years ago?
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Speaker 1: Four or five years ago now, in the height of COVID.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't believe I have to think back
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Speaker 1: to those days. And that's why I'm having to do
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Speaker 1: the numbers, because I really don't want to remember it.
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Speaker 1: But I was in Melbourne in that last that the
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Speaker 1: the last dying breaths of COVID lockdowns, and we had
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Speaker 1: those freedom rallies and people coming out protesting against lockdown,
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Speaker 1: and you saw how the cops, under the direction of
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Speaker 1: Premier Daniel Andrews, came down on that stuff, and they
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Speaker 1: had no qualms about coming out and talking about the
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Speaker 1: politics of those protesters and how evil they were, and
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Speaker 1: rallying people against them and saying how awful it was
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Speaker 1: that these people, most of whom were thoroughly peaceful. I
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Speaker 1: was at one of those rallies, mostly thoroughly peaceful people
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Speaker 1: were demonized as though they were killers and granny killers
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Speaker 1: and all this sort of business. Right then, is so
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Speaker 1: all that sort of political and social unrest which has
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Speaker 1: continued through Victoria for the last four or five years.
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Speaker 1: The social fabric of that place is just in tatters.
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Speaker 1: So is of course, and it's all linked together. You
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Speaker 1: have societal decay and it leads to high crime, and
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Speaker 1: on and on it goes, and you end up at
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Speaker 1: the point where people peacefully protest from the right side
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Speaker 1: of politics and the left are now getting involved, schlock,
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Speaker 1: you know what a shock, are getting involved in the
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Speaker 1: violent side of it, and the police call that out.
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Speaker 1: And now you have all these people on the left saying, oh,
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Speaker 1: it's the fascist right wing police in Victoria that are
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Speaker 1: coming down so hard on the left. No, he's Wayne Cheeseman.
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Speaker 1: What a guy has just called out what is in
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Speaker 1: front of him. And this is what the Andrews, the
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Speaker 1: Allen government has allowed to happen in Victoria saying oh, well, Ben,
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Speaker 1: you're wearing a face mask in public. That's not going
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Speaker 1: to change a thing. It's gone way beyond that point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Look, it chows just what an absolute failed state Victoria is.
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Speaker 4: When you basically have the police force, effectively contradicting the
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Speaker 4: civilian government, which is saying that everything is fine, because obviously,
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Speaker 4: you know you don't want we don't want Victoria to
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Speaker 4: be a police state, but you don't want to be
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Speaker 4: a state run by criminals either, and effectively that's what
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Speaker 4: the government has allowed. And then is trying to gaslight
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Speaker 4: and we'll see some more of this, is trying to
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Speaker 4: gaslight the community as they did with COVID, saying that
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Speaker 4: everything's actually fine. Everything hotel quarantine's fine. Oh yes, we've
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Speaker 4: done all the scientific research. We know these measures work.
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Speaker 4: Oh no, schools are terribly unsafe. We have to shut
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Speaker 4: them down. All these outrageous lies that they said during COVID,
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Speaker 4: and they're now saying, I mean again, the ridiculousness of
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Speaker 4: will come to the Premier's comments. So the ridiculous is
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Speaker 4: of having to tell everyone that a city is safe.
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Speaker 2: You know, spoiler alert.
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Speaker 4: If you have to go around telling everyone your city safe,
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Speaker 4: your city's not safe.
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Speaker 1: Well here it is.
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Speaker 3: Here is justinto Allen gaslighting Victorians and all of Australia
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Speaker 3: to the absolute max.
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Speaker 6: Melbourne's CBD is safe. And I think it would be
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Speaker 6: wrong and misleading to conflate the behavior of a very
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Speaker 6: small number of people yesterday who came to the city
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Speaker 6: to bring violence, and they would was swiftly by Victoria police.
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Speaker 6: With the incredible number and growing number of people who
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Speaker 6: come in and out of the city every day and
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Speaker 6: on weekends and do so safely.
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Speaker 3: Is she in the same Melbourne as the rest of us? Firstly,
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Speaker 3: it was about two thousand counterprotesters, hardly a small amount,
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Speaker 3: and they're not They weren't just there on the weekend,
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Speaker 3: They're there every single weekend at a new rally like
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Speaker 3: this is an issue of epandemic proportions in Victoria.
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Speaker 4: Not only that, but she's gas lighting upon gas lightings.
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Speaker 4: Is gas lighting squared because talking about conflating these issues,
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Speaker 4: what just In Allen said and saying that Melbourne was
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Speaker 4: safe comes after she was criticized for not being able
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Speaker 4: to say that Melbourne was safe and sort of ducking
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Speaker 4: the issue in the wake of that horrendous stabbing incident.
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Speaker 4: So another violent attack on the streets of Melbourne. So
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Speaker 4: she is compensating for that by conflating another violent attack,
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Speaker 4: a random violence, civilian attack on the Melbour streets with
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Speaker 4: this violent protest, which again as you say, was happening
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Speaker 4: every single weekend in the CBD, and businesses were saying
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Speaker 4: we don't feel safe. Jewish people were saying we don't
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Speaker 4: feel safe, and of course it was crippling the CBD,
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Speaker 4: which you know the other six days of the week
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Speaker 4: is crippled by normal crime. But the really interesting thing
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Speaker 4: is that these protesters came out.
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Speaker 2: What were they protesting? Are they protesting?
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Speaker 4: This is one thing that very few of the news reports,
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Speaker 4: if any, seem to actually have a handle on. They say, oh,
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Speaker 4: we're protesting against you know, fascism and racism, right, okay, whatever.
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Speaker 4: But again it just shows that these guys, who were
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Speaker 4: the same crowd as the pro Palestinian protesters, nothing to
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Speaker 4: do with Palestine. The Palestine peace process is underway. We
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Speaker 4: don't know how it's going, but could be going worse.
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Speaker 4: We've got nothing, you know, they've got no grievance, so
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Speaker 4: they now just make stuff up.
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Speaker 2: What are we going to do? We'll go and attack
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Speaker 2: the cops.
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Speaker 4: These guys are just extremists in search of any cause
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Speaker 4: to be extremist.
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Speaker 1: You say gas lighting upon gas lighting, I thought the
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Speaker 1: Victorian government had an aversion to gas But apart from
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Speaker 1: when it comes out of their mouths, it seems. And
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Speaker 1: of course we've used to talk about Dictator Dan Daniel Andrews,
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Speaker 1: Dictator Dan and days about as close as this country
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Speaker 1: has ever been to it. But over in the United
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Speaker 1: States there's all these people carrying on as they have
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Speaker 1: ever since Donald Trump was democratically elected. Yes, these are
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Speaker 1: the same people who try to claim that he incited
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Speaker 1: an insurrection and wouldn't accept the results of the twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty presidential election. Over there, they now say that this
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Speaker 1: is totally undemocratic. What is going on in the United
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Speaker 1: States under Donald Trump, the democratically elected leader. They say
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Speaker 1: he is a king, and so they've been out having
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Speaker 1: these no king protests. I mean they were doing this, oh,
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Speaker 1: three or four months ago, back in June or something,
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Speaker 1: and they're doing it again. I never really understood what
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Speaker 1: they meant by him being a king. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: a republic, you do understand, like you could go around
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Speaker 1: saying no dictators. Where does the king come from? He's
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Speaker 1: not about to join the royal family, as much as
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Speaker 1: he might admire maybe Charles Charles.
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Speaker 4: He's going to join the plotting for the British Commonwealth
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Speaker 4: to take over then, and they.
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Speaker 1: Should as they should the should it be, it'll be
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Speaker 1: a much better place. And actually, all these people who
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Speaker 1: think that Donald Trump wants to be the king would
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Speaker 1: should be really happy if that ever happened, because it
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Speaker 1: would at least mean there is someone other than the
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Speaker 1: president who has regal ability to do things about those
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Speaker 1: kinds of people. But anyway, coming back to the point,
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Speaker 1: they come and say, oh, Donald Trump, what an evil,
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Speaker 1: fascist kind of guy he is. Hmm, Okay, let's take
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Speaker 1: a look at some of the people at these New
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Speaker 1: Kings protesters, including this one in Chicago. You gotta grab
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Speaker 1: a cub We gotta turn around the coves on this
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Speaker 1: fascist system.
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Speaker 4: These Ice Asians gonna get shut and wipe them.
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Speaker 1: Okay, he sounds like a thoroughly decent chap.
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Speaker 4: It's not like anyone would really actually grab a gun
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Speaker 4: and no America just because they.
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Speaker 2: Didn't like that.
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Speaker 3: Well, in this current political climate, when left wing violence
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Speaker 3: and assassination culture is on the rise, most obviously recently
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Speaker 3: with Charlie Kirk, that kind of incitement to violence is
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Speaker 3: just disgusting. And there are also other incidences like here
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Speaker 3: you can see a child who is stabbing a Donald
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Speaker 3: Trump pinata. Firstly, why are you taking a child to
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Speaker 3: that kind of a protest? Why are you trying to
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Speaker 3: indoctrinate them with that kind of messaging but to encourage
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Speaker 3: them to stab the president. And there you can see
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Speaker 3: a woman mocking Charlie Kirk's assassination. We could show you
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Speaker 3: videos like that from around the country for hours. And
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Speaker 3: that's what I find repulsive. These people are not peaceful,
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Speaker 3: they are not pro democracy.
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Speaker 2: They're not going.
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Speaker 3: Isn't it lovely our shared values of American democracy. No,
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Speaker 3: they are inciting violence against Donald Trump, against Ice, and
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Speaker 3: it's disgusting.
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Speaker 4: It's just so terri and but again they're the same
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Speaker 4: kinds of people who are picking fights with the cops
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Speaker 4: in Victoria. These are just extremists who are extreme for
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Speaker 4: the sake of being extreme, and they get You can
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Speaker 4: see them sort of work themselves up so they can
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Speaker 4: get really really angry and actually, you know, deliver the
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Speaker 4: great Brava performance. I mean, these people are clearly unhinged,
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Speaker 4: and of course they do a terrible, terrible damage to
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Speaker 4: the normal people in the center left and the center
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Speaker 4: right for that matter. So there are a bunch of
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Speaker 4: douchebags anyway over to the UK. They're having a grand
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Speaker 4: old time and you don't have to worry about all
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Speaker 4: the mess in America, because don't worry, guys, England is fine.
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Speaker 4: England has got you fixed. England is on your side,
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Speaker 4: unless you're Jewish. Because apparently authorities in Birmingham have actually said,
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Speaker 4: and we know this was bubbling around for a while,
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Speaker 4: they have banned fans of an Israeli soccer team. So
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Speaker 4: even Gentiles who are big fans of Israeli sport, they
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Speaker 4: can't even come in from attending a next month in
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Speaker 4: the UK in England's second largest city because of the
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Speaker 4: threats to cause harm to them if they actually turn up.
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Speaker 4: This is, of course mccabi Tel Aviv versus Birmingham's Aston
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Speaker 4: Villa team and the Safety Advisory Group, which is an
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Speaker 4: allwellianly named organization of fever I've heard one, has barred
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Speaker 4: Tel Aviv fans from attending, saying the event is high risk.
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Speaker 4: Why is it high risk, you might ask, because apparently
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Speaker 4: there's a ramp and straam of violent anti Semitism running
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Speaker 4: through the UK community that the UK authorities have no
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Speaker 4: authority to do anything about.
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Speaker 2: So sorry about that, lost tribes. What do we think
19:49
Speaker 2: I mean, Look, I'm.
19:51
Speaker 1: Actually I shouldn't say it on it because I'll have
19:53
Speaker 1: the bloody soccer people writing to me about I'm not
19:56
Speaker 1: a great fan of the sport. I think it's full
19:58
Speaker 1: of lots of hulig.
20:00
Speaker 2: What sort of football doesn't let you use it?
20:02
Speaker 1: I know, I know exactly where it is a sport
20:06
Speaker 1: full of hooligans. And I should note that the Maccabee
20:10
Speaker 1: or Maccaba whatever they called Tel Aviv team has been
20:15
Speaker 1: in trouble before. There was a previous match in Amsterdam
20:19
Speaker 1: where they got in some trouble, and then there was
20:21
Speaker 1: another game just the other day which was actually meant
20:24
Speaker 1: to be between two teams from Tel Aviv, where they
20:29
Speaker 1: were getting so violent with each other and the police
20:32
Speaker 1: that they had to call the game off. So there
20:35
Speaker 1: may be reason to believe that fans of this particular
20:38
Speaker 1: team can get violent, though you could probably say that
20:41
Speaker 1: about all soccer teams. But when you're saying that, it
20:45
Speaker 1: is because other people in Birmingham are threatening to do
20:51
Speaker 1: stuff to fans of an opposing team, and you go, okay,
20:55
Speaker 1: so we won't ban the aston Villa fans from coming
20:58
Speaker 1: in here, No will bear the opposing team from coming
21:02
Speaker 1: to our city. Your priorities are a little bit out
21:05
Speaker 1: of whack, I might suggest. And look, when even the
21:08
Speaker 1: Stammer government can see that this staff is ridiculous, then
21:12
Speaker 1: they're the authorities in Birmingham or to see that something
21:15
Speaker 1: is wrong. The Energy Secretary Ed Miliband of course once
21:18
Speaker 1: upon a time wanted to be prime in a state.
21:20
Speaker 1: Is what he had to say.
21:22
Speaker 2: Is Aston now a no go area for Jews? No?
21:25
Speaker 7: And it can't be. And I'm very very clear about that.
21:28
Speaker 7: And look, I believe we as a country pride ourselves
21:34
Speaker 7: on our diversity but also our tolerance. The best outcome
21:39
Speaker 7: we want to see is that this match goes ahead
21:43
Speaker 7: as normal with all of the fans there.
21:46
Speaker 1: You can't come to the football because someone else might
21:50
Speaker 1: attack you. It's a bit skew if, isn't it.
21:52
Speaker 3: It's disgusting, It's absolutely deplorable. And to think that that
21:55
Speaker 3: is the state of the UK in twenty twenty five,
21:58
Speaker 3: where the police are so afraid of confronting radicals that
22:03
Speaker 3: they're going to say no Israeli soccer fans are even
22:05
Speaker 3: allowed to attend the game. If I was in the UK,
22:09
Speaker 3: I would feel enraged that essentially our streets have been
22:12
Speaker 3: taken over by crazy people who can't be controlled by police.
22:16
Speaker 3: That's the message that it actually sends. And I would
22:19
Speaker 3: note that Amsterdam game, where it wasn't there were allegations
22:24
Speaker 3: that the Israeli soccer fans had provoked, had burned a
22:28
Speaker 3: Palestine flag, had chanted anti Palestinian slogans. But it's also
22:33
Speaker 3: very clear there was a premeditated and coordinated plan a
22:37
Speaker 3: jew hunt.
22:38
Speaker 1: That is the word that.
22:40
Speaker 3: These people used in WhatsApp and on telegram, a jew
22:43
Speaker 3: hunt to search for Israeli fans in the streets of Amsterdam.
22:47
Speaker 3: This led to seven people being hospitalized, fans being beat unconscious.
22:52
Speaker 3: When you saw those videos, it was like watching a
22:56
Speaker 3: twentieth century pogram play out in today in Amsterdam, and
23:01
Speaker 3: it was horrific. And so I understand why the authorities
23:05
Speaker 3: are desperately afraid of a repeat situation like that. But
23:09
Speaker 3: at the same time, the answer is not to just
23:11
Speaker 3: cower in the corner and let those guys win. The
23:14
Speaker 3: answer is to say no, we stand for tolerance, we
23:18
Speaker 3: stand with the Jewish community, and we're not going to
23:21
Speaker 3: let you block Israeli fans from attending because you're.
23:26
Speaker 4: So violent, telling Jewish people that they shouldn't come out
23:29
Speaker 4: because it's not safe for them on the street. It
23:31
Speaker 4: has just the darkest possible historical over times and the
23:37
Speaker 4: UK should know that better than anybody.
23:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like I said, I mean, if it's aston
23:42
Speaker 1: Villa fans that are threatening to do stuff to the
23:46
Speaker 1: Tel Aviv teams fans and the aston Villa fans, the
23:50
Speaker 1: only people will let in the Maccabi tel Aviv.
23:54
Speaker 2: It sounds quite a bit.
23:57
Speaker 3: Right, But you have to take a zero tolerance approach
24:00
Speaker 3: to this stuff you do, otherwise it will just grow
24:03
Speaker 3: and grow. But something else in the UK that was
24:06
Speaker 3: extremely dark and tolerated for way too long was the
24:11
Speaker 3: grooming gangs. There there was evidence that's come out that
24:16
Speaker 3: previously there were massive cover ups all the way up
24:19
Speaker 3: to the highest levels of police, refusing to confront the
24:23
Speaker 3: reality that thousands of girls in the UK had been
24:26
Speaker 3: abused by grooming gangs all along. However, London's man Sadik
24:31
Speaker 3: Khan denied any involvement. He denied that there were grooming
24:35
Speaker 3: gangs operating in London at all. But now an exclusive
24:41
Speaker 3: investigation by The Express has found that on numerous occasions.
24:48
Speaker 3: Sadik Khan reviewed reports from the Police Department that showed
24:53
Speaker 3: there were six potential victims of grooming gangs between twenty
24:57
Speaker 3: sixteen and twenty twenty five. His instances all had the
25:01
Speaker 3: same characteristics of a girl often applied with drugs or alcohol,
25:06
Speaker 3: taken to a hotel room or a house, and abused
25:09
Speaker 3: by multiple men. So six potential victims in four separate
25:14
Speaker 3: police reports that Sadik Khan personally responded to, so we
25:19
Speaker 3: know he's seen it and now this is just heaping
25:22
Speaker 3: more pressure on him to come clean about what he
25:26
Speaker 3: truly knew about the grooming gangs. Chris Philip, the UK
25:31
Speaker 3: Shadow Home Secretary, has said it's shameful that the Mayor
25:35
Speaker 3: of London is claiming to have no indication the grooming
25:38
Speaker 3: gangs are operating in London despite personally responding to reports
25:43
Speaker 3: containing evidence of victims abused by grooming gangs in the city.
25:47
Speaker 3: It is clear Cidik Khan is facilitating a cover up
25:51
Speaker 3: and that's the question, Sadig, are you facilitating.
25:54
Speaker 1: A cover up?
25:55
Speaker 3: Naturally he's denied it's his office has said the Mayor
26:00
Speaker 3: there has always been clear that the safety of Londoners
26:02
Speaker 3: is his top priority and nowhere is this truer than
26:05
Speaker 3: in safeguarding children. Sadik is committed to doing all he
26:08
Speaker 3: can to protect children in London from organized criminal and
26:10
Speaker 3: sexual exploitation and bring perpetrators to justice. We remain vigilant
26:14
Speaker 3: to emerging and changing threats and will continue to do
26:17
Speaker 3: everything we can to protect children in the Capitol from abuse,
26:21
Speaker 3: violence and exploitation in all its forms. Now, those are
26:24
Speaker 3: very nice platitudes, but it doesn't change the reality that
26:28
Speaker 3: he had received these reports, there was strong indications that
26:32
Speaker 3: this was occurring, and he did not.
26:35
Speaker 1: Act well and has gone so far he and the
26:38
Speaker 1: Metropolitan Police gone about to say that there are no reports,
26:42
Speaker 1: so they've received no reports of this kind of behavior
26:45
Speaker 1: going on in London. And what The Express has uncovered
26:49
Speaker 1: is that he had personally responded to documents that had
26:54
Speaker 1: reports suggesting that might be going on within them. So
26:58
Speaker 1: how can you claim that there are no reports that
27:01
Speaker 1: this is going on when you have read and you
27:04
Speaker 1: have responded to, according to what The Express is uncovered,
27:08
Speaker 1: things that suggest that may have happened. And unless you
27:12
Speaker 1: just want to think it's not there or ignore it
27:15
Speaker 1: or just pretend this is not my problem.
27:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, it might be a matter of sort of
27:18
Speaker 4: turning a blind eye or not wanting to actually, you know,
27:22
Speaker 4: acknowledge what's going on. But also to be fair, this
27:25
Speaker 4: is four reports over a decade. These you know, these
27:31
Speaker 4: are you know, he's been had people obviously saying, you know,
27:34
Speaker 4: is there an epidemic of these grooming gangs running rampant
27:37
Speaker 4: in London? And he might sort of think to himself, well, no,
27:40
Speaker 4: there's been six victims over a ten year or alledged
27:43
Speaker 4: victims even over a ten year period, and that's not that.
27:46
Speaker 2: It might be something that is just not familiar.
27:48
Speaker 4: So I guess there's there's a difference between downplaying something
27:52
Speaker 4: or not making something public and actually covering up.
27:56
Speaker 2: And to say that he's actually covered it up as.
27:58
Speaker 4: Pretty like, I don't think anyone would do that, really,
28:01
Speaker 4: not consciously, not deliberately, not knowingly, because as we always know,
28:04
Speaker 4: it's never the crime, it's the cover up that all.
28:06
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's true, and I'm not talking
28:08
Speaker 1: about Sadik Khan here, but when you look at what
28:10
Speaker 1: went on in Roster, it is very key that it
28:14
Speaker 1: was covered up in a very long time because the
28:17
Speaker 1: authorities and politicians did not want to deal with the
28:21
Speaker 1: problem that was in front of them, because that would
28:23
Speaker 1: be to admit that it was largely done by Pakistani gangs.
28:27
Speaker 1: They didn't want to do that. Racial Polz.
28:29
Speaker 4: That's what a cover up looks like, and that is
28:30
Speaker 4: now clear as the light of day. I think that's
28:32
Speaker 4: a very different both scale and type of thing that
28:36
Speaker 4: we're looking at here.
28:37
Speaker 1: But you would think that in light of what has
28:40
Speaker 1: happened in other parts of the UK, that if you
28:42
Speaker 1: were the mayor of London or any other town, you
28:45
Speaker 1: would be like, I need to be on top of
28:48
Speaker 1: even the smallest chance of a grooming gang existing in
28:52
Speaker 1: my town because this story is going to become far
28:54
Speaker 1: larger than Rottera.
28:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you would think so. I mean again,
28:57
Speaker 2: in Roderam, you know, this is something that went.
28:59
Speaker 4: Down to the police level, and so you know, is
29:02
Speaker 4: it the role of the mayor to actually make public
29:06
Speaker 4: you know the nature of crimes Like in Australia, normally
29:08
Speaker 4: it would be the police that would do that. And
29:10
Speaker 4: so I don't want to defend the defensible, but I
29:12
Speaker 4: think it is.
29:13
Speaker 2: A bit different to that. Truly horrific ring that was
29:16
Speaker 2: uncovered just few years ago.
29:18
Speaker 1: Well, if you want to know what the police are
29:20
Speaker 1: up to over in the United Kingdom, if they're not
29:22
Speaker 1: dealing with things such as grooming gangs or going around
29:25
Speaker 1: telling people who've put signs in their shop windows saying
29:28
Speaker 1: the choplifters and scumbags they must take those signs out. Yes,
29:31
Speaker 1: remember we did that one a month or two ago.
29:34
Speaker 1: They're also putting out fact sheets about immigration, which you know,
29:39
Speaker 1: they go through it and they say that they're dispelling
29:42
Speaker 1: common myths about migration. They said that the Office of
29:47
Speaker 1: the Budget Responsibility estimates that the average margret estimates should
29:51
Speaker 1: say that the average margaret who moves to this country
29:53
Speaker 1: at the age of twenty five larsitulity will contribute three
29:55
Speaker 1: hundred and forty one thousand pounds to public finances over
29:58
Speaker 1: the course of their lives. It's more than a British
30:00
Speaker 1: citizen contributes.
30:01
Speaker 2: On every even better than the local.
30:04
Speaker 1: Isn't that great to know migrants are much better than locals. Fantastic,
30:08
Speaker 1: thank you, But why are the police putting this out?
30:11
Speaker 1: I understand if it was a some sort of pro
30:15
Speaker 1: migrant group or I don't know, even the immigration minister
30:18
Speaker 1: is putting out these sorts of things, but surely, like
30:21
Speaker 1: you have real crime going on in the United Kingdom,
30:24
Speaker 1: But the police over there seemed to be more interested
30:27
Speaker 1: in victimizing people who have their shops burgled, knocking on
30:31
Speaker 1: people's doors and charting them away for posting fruity memes
30:34
Speaker 1: on social media. And now they're putting out fact cheats
30:37
Speaker 1: about migration. Don't they know what their job is.
30:40
Speaker 3: It's really bizarre and it's a very strange use of
30:43
Speaker 3: police resources in a country that is extremely strained. And
30:48
Speaker 3: also the facts that they do include a selective at best.
30:53
Speaker 3: They claim that migrants contribute more than British citizens do,
30:57
Speaker 3: but if you look at low wage migrants, which is
31:00
Speaker 3: most migrants, they actually cost the British government about one
31:04
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand pounds over the course of their lifetime.
31:08
Speaker 3: And that's from the same Office of Budget Responsibility. See
31:11
Speaker 3: that's the great thing about statistics. They can kind of
31:13
Speaker 3: tell you anything you want them to tell you, as
31:16
Speaker 3: long as you select the right parameters. The other claim
31:18
Speaker 3: that they make in this fat sheep is that migrants
31:21
Speaker 3: don't actually bring any crime. In fact, sometimes crime goes
31:25
Speaker 3: down when you have more migrants. Again, they're conflating genuine
31:30
Speaker 3: legal migrants with illegal migrants. When you actually look at
31:34
Speaker 3: illegal migrants who've crossed the English Channel, they are twenty
31:38
Speaker 3: four times more likely to end up in jail than
31:41
Speaker 3: a British born person. So every single one of these claims,
31:45
Speaker 3: if you just narrow it to what people are genuinely
31:48
Speaker 3: concerned about, which is illegal migration, they absolutely fall apart.
31:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's absolutely right. And again I was
31:55
Speaker 4: about to make the same observation. It's not migration per se.
31:59
Speaker 4: I'm a huge fan and of mother culturalism, as you know,
32:01
Speaker 4: and I'm an argument for, you know, why we need
32:04
Speaker 4: a big migration program in Australia. But the idea that
32:08
Speaker 4: you would conflate you know, skilled legal skilled migration where
32:12
Speaker 4: you're bringing in workers to boost economic productivity with people
32:16
Speaker 4: just being able to you know, row a boat across
32:18
Speaker 4: the English Channel. And that's what people are concerned about
32:21
Speaker 4: even before. I know we're having a debate about mass
32:23
Speaker 4: migration at the moment, but you know, even before when
32:25
Speaker 4: the Tampa rocked up in two thousand and one, it
32:28
Speaker 4: wasn't the migration that people were worried about. It was
32:31
Speaker 4: the lack of control, the fact that you know, a
32:33
Speaker 4: nation had lost control of this borders. It's exactly the
32:36
Speaker 4: same as what got Joe Biden booted out of office
32:39
Speaker 4: in the UK and the US. I just count for
32:42
Speaker 4: the life of me, understand. I mean, they're finally sort
32:44
Speaker 4: of getting their heads around it because they realized that
32:46
Speaker 4: could make Nigel Farage the next prime minister. But you know,
32:50
Speaker 4: the idea and again this it is like god knows
32:54
Speaker 4: who are advising they need to get Peter Mendelssohn and
32:56
Speaker 4: Alistair Campbell back because the idea that you can just
33:01
Speaker 4: do it, just into Alan and explain a way to
33:03
Speaker 4: people say oh no, there.
33:04
Speaker 2: Is no problem. Look, I've got these statistics. You're just crazy.
33:08
Speaker 2: You're just imagining it.
33:09
Speaker 4: You're wrong, There is no problem, and I can prove
33:11
Speaker 4: it because I'm smarter than you, because I've got these
33:13
Speaker 4: statistics which are in fact, as you beautifully exposed bollocks
33:17
Speaker 4: and deliberately cherry picked. And actually the truth is the opposite.
33:21
Speaker 4: People are just going to go right. So now you're
33:24
Speaker 4: effing up my country and you're calling me a liar.
33:27
Speaker 4: You're done, you're out. And so that's why the starma
33:31
Speaker 4: Labor government, which should be the great antidote to the
33:34
Speaker 4: idiocy of the Corbyn years.
33:36
Speaker 2: Is now just in chronic trouble.
33:37
Speaker 4: And it's exactly what happened with Kevin Rudd and Julia
33:40
Speaker 4: Gillard in Australia. It's exactly what happened with Joe Biden.
33:44
Speaker 4: How many more examples do you need of what not
33:47
Speaker 4: to do and what is the best way to get
33:50
Speaker 4: a massive populist right wing leader elected, Like, because you're
33:54
Speaker 4: doing it, mate, you're doing it.
33:55
Speaker 1: You'd think they hadn't looked at the polling, wouldn't you
33:57
Speaker 1: mentioned losing control? Joe. On the topic of losing control,
34:01
Speaker 1: we've clearly lost control of the illicit tobacco market in
34:04
Speaker 1: this country. I bang on about it all the time.
34:07
Speaker 1: I mean that the latest numbers are that sixty one
34:09
Speaker 1: percent of the cigarette market in this country this year
34:13
Speaker 1: is illicit tobacco. Well done under the federal government for
34:16
Speaker 1: raising the tax so high. And of course the cost
34:19
Speaker 1: is not just to the federal government in the tax
34:21
Speaker 1: that they're now losing because all of these illicit cigarettes,
34:24
Speaker 1: of course you don't pay any tax on them whatsoever,
34:26
Speaker 1: But the poor business owners who have businesses nearby tobacconists
34:32
Speaker 1: are now paying huge insurance premiums and there was a
34:35
Speaker 1: report today in The Australian that it can be fifty
34:40
Speaker 1: percent more you have to pay on your insurance premiums
34:45
Speaker 1: if you run a small business that is near one
34:48
Speaker 1: of these dodgy tobacconists. He's Martin Sterling from the Master
34:51
Speaker 1: Grosses Association.
34:53
Speaker 8: We have had a failure in the attempt to control
34:57
Speaker 8: the illicit tobacco market. The elicit tobacco market now dominate
35:02
Speaker 8: tobacco's sales and that is being priced into the risk
35:06
Speaker 8: equation that insurers consider.
35:09
Speaker 1: And see that. The federal government has always said, well,
35:11
Speaker 1: you know, we can't do anything about the excise because
35:14
Speaker 1: that would be to give in to the criminals, and
35:15
Speaker 1: we're allowing them to price the market. But when you've
35:18
Speaker 1: got hard working small business owners trying to do legitimate
35:22
Speaker 1: business and someone opens a tobacconist five doors up and
35:26
Speaker 1: the insurance company says, now you have to pay fifty
35:28
Speaker 1: percent more in premiums because that joint might get fire bombed.
35:31
Speaker 1: How does it fear on them, Well.
35:33
Speaker 3: It's daylight robbery. And this is government policy failure on
35:37
Speaker 3: two levels, failure to set the excise at appropriate levels,
35:41
Speaker 3: but then also failure to actually crack down on alict
35:43
Speaker 3: of tobacco in the first place. Until a couple of
35:46
Speaker 3: months ago it was health bureaucrats in the New South
35:49
Speaker 3: Wales Department of Health that were in charge of policing
35:53
Speaker 3: crime gangs operating in tobacconists. I mean, that is just ludicrous.
35:57
Speaker 3: They're not police, they're not equipped to they.
36:00
Speaker 2: Are allowed to carry guns in their cardigans.
36:03
Speaker 3: It's just mind blowing. So the government is totally to
36:06
Speaker 3: blame for this on both levels. It's just a catastrophe.
36:09
Speaker 1: We will see how this all develops, because I don't
36:11
Speaker 1: think it's going to change anytime. Soon after the break,
36:14
Speaker 1: we'll get into the papers. On the front of the
36:16
Speaker 1: Os albow is in the United States and China's getting
36:20
Speaker 1: shirty at the same time, and on the front of
36:21
Speaker 1: the Telly a novel idea to build more housing in
36:25
Speaker 1: Sydney corn And so let's go through tomorrow's news tonight,
36:35
Speaker 1: shall We will start with the Australian where tomorrow it
36:38
Speaker 1: is PM reaches for Trump card as China flee as
36:41
Speaker 1: up Anthony ALBANIZI will use his personal tires with Donald
36:45
Speaker 1: Trump to boost Australia's security in the Indo Pacific region
36:48
Speaker 1: after Chinese fartage its launched flares dangerously close to an
36:52
Speaker 1: rua AF plane ahead of the Prime Minister has long
36:54
Speaker 1: awaited Washington sit down with the US President. The government
36:58
Speaker 1: on Monday Lodge to protest with Bay after a Chinese
37:01
Speaker 1: farighter jet acted in a quote unsafe and unprofessional manner
37:05
Speaker 1: towards an Australian posadon saviileance aircraft over the South China
37:08
Speaker 1: Sea the day before it came Abo growing signs the
37:12
Speaker 1: Orchest Nuclear Submarine Pact will survive a Pentagon review with
37:16
Speaker 1: the Trump administration hailing the great relationship between mister Trump
37:20
Speaker 1: and mister Albanizi. And you'll be able to watch. I'm
37:24
Speaker 1: not sure if for the meeting, which you'll be at
37:26
Speaker 1: roughly two am Australian daylight time Eastern day light time.
37:30
Speaker 1: I'm not sure whether that will be live here, but
37:32
Speaker 1: you'll certainly be able to watch a replay at five
37:35
Speaker 1: thirty am if you won't be awake at two am,
37:38
Speaker 1: as I will. But two very interesting stories, of course,
37:41
Speaker 1: because we'll see how the meeting turns out. Between Trump
37:44
Speaker 1: and elbow. But the intervention again of China. After all
37:49
Speaker 1: the stuff we've had, what was it the sonar that
37:53
Speaker 1: they were using, Now they're firing flares near our as well,
37:58
Speaker 1: they have and meanwhile, well, you know, we're sort of
38:00
Speaker 1: getting cozy with China, rat with.
38:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just this balancing act with China.
38:05
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously they're a huge economic I mean, our
38:07
Speaker 4: economy collapses if the Chinese export market collapses, and so
38:12
Speaker 4: you know, they're kind of like the fatted calf.
38:14
Speaker 2: We sort of need them.
38:16
Speaker 4: But at the same time, they've shown time and time
38:18
Speaker 4: again they simply do not give a rats about a
38:22
Speaker 4: rules based order, and they're actually going out of their
38:25
Speaker 4: way to show that they just don't care. You've got
38:28
Speaker 4: the circumnavigation of this Jarian waters, We've got the live
38:31
Speaker 4: fire exercise that was reported by the Virgin pilot. Still
38:36
Speaker 4: haven't upgraded me to gold by the way I've got it. Anyway,
38:39
Speaker 4: that's a nice story. And then you've had two flair
38:42
Speaker 4: attacks on a fcraft. So you know, the statement Defense
38:48
Speaker 4: put out that someone was actually a defense expert in
38:52
Speaker 4: exactly this marine strategy in the Asia Pacific who texted
38:58
Speaker 4: me and said, holy moly, this you know, this is
39:01
Speaker 4: a big, big deal, and text me the defense statement
39:04
Speaker 4: and it was extremely might not look like it's a
39:07
Speaker 4: sort of untrained eye, but it's extremely strongly.
39:10
Speaker 3: Worded, and you do have to wonder. I mean, I
39:13
Speaker 3: don't think the timing of these two events is a coincidence.
39:17
Speaker 3: The fact that you've got the flare going off on
39:19
Speaker 3: the Sunday, we've got Albin Easy meeting with Trump on
39:21
Speaker 3: the Tuesday. And this does seem to be a little
39:24
Speaker 3: bit of a pattern with China. They sent the p
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Speaker 3: and a flotilla around Australia in the middle of the
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Speaker 3: election campaign, and I think they, I don't know, maybe
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Speaker 3: they're testing us, They're seeing what the reaction will be,
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Speaker 3: how hard do we push back against them. But I
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Speaker 3: think the only answer here is zero tolerance. We should
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Speaker 3: not accept this kind of treatment in.
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Speaker 2: International waters also more America in the region. That's the thing.
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Speaker 4: This is why I don't understand the Chinese logic, which
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Speaker 4: is often sort of come from a completely different tradition
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Speaker 4: to ours. But it's just going to mean, like Albo
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Speaker 4: will say, right, we need a stronger American presence in
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Speaker 4: the age of to Ward off China.
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Speaker 3: So good, that's exactly what he should be saying. In
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Speaker 3: the Herald Sun Tomorrow, Premier doubles down. Jacinta Allen has
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Speaker 3: repeated her claim that Melbourne CBD is safe, as furious
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Speaker 3: labor MPs take aim at her deputy for branking ranks
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Speaker 3: to call out at lawlessness. Speaking after violent protests on
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Speaker 3: Sunday that left police injured, the Premier yesterday insisted Melbourne
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Speaker 3: was a safe place to be and we showed you
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Speaker 3: that grab earlier in the show. But it's just insane.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is government gas lighting, it's citizens.
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Speaker 1: Even if you set the.
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Speaker 3: Issue of the protests aside, which we know are a
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Speaker 3: big issue, the crime that is going on in Melbourne
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Speaker 3: is ridiculous. How can she claim this.
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Speaker 7: A safe city?
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Speaker 2: But it's not even about that anymore.
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Speaker 4: Because the Great White Hope, the Hope of the side,
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Speaker 4: Ben Carroll, the Deputy Premier, who is from the right
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Speaker 4: of the party, he actually came out a day or
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Speaker 4: two ago and said, and this is what this article
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Speaker 4: is alluding to. He came outdo go says, no, we
41:07
Speaker 4: have to have zero tolerance on crime. We have to
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Speaker 4: make sure that we crack down on this lawlessness. We
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Speaker 4: cannot excuse it, we cannot explain it away, certainly cannot
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Speaker 4: pretend that it doesn't exist.
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Speaker 2: We've got to go hard on it. And that is
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Speaker 2: what she's doing.
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Speaker 4: So again, instead of saying, actually, yes, that's what we
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Speaker 4: should have done all along, and maybe we wouldn't be
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Speaker 4: in this mess, you then get the usual unnamed furious
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Speaker 4: other labor in peace. Oh, the deputy Premier shouldn't have
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Speaker 4: said all that stuff about the premier because now she
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Speaker 4: looks bad.
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Speaker 2: Well, she looks bad because the state's a basket case.
41:36
Speaker 4: And when you have and this is very typical of
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Speaker 4: Andrew's style sort of you know, I stand with Dan
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Speaker 4: kind of bots who exist in the Parliament as well.
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Speaker 4: When a guy actually comes out and says what's really
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Speaker 4: going on and what people want to hear, they don't say, yes,
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Speaker 4: this is what we should be doing. Finally someone's doing it,
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Speaker 4: they say, let's attack him and tear him down for
41:57
Speaker 4: telling the truth.
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Speaker 1: The scary thing is because it's victorious, actually get away
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Speaker 1: with it.
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Speaker 4: Well. The way the Libs are going, you know, I
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Speaker 4: think a can of Apricots could win that elected over
42:05
Speaker 4: to the Mighty Daily Telegraph Now and their splash header
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Speaker 4: Airs air Supply get it you will a one hundred
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Speaker 4: and fifty billion dollar rooftop revolution to end the housing disaster.
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Speaker 4: This is an idea of being put forward by a
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Speaker 4: modular housing company if you can believe it is the
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Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty billion opportunity sitting dormant on the
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Speaker 4: rooftops of apartment blocks and homes across across Sydney. With
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Speaker 4: construction experts declaring modular housing and airspace development potential silver
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Speaker 4: bullet solutions to the housing crisis. Australian bureaus disease started
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Speaker 4: this month reveal the news so those government fallen behind
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Speaker 4: it's National Housing Accord targets, which is forty two thousand
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Speaker 4: homes delivered instead of the seventy five thousand goal, and
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Speaker 4: Chris Minz openly said that they weren't going to get
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Speaker 4: there because councils are largely holding it up. Now, airspace
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Speaker 4: development expert and modular housing advocate.
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Speaker 2: Lives and E Lives Lives E Lives.
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Speaker 4: Livery has called on New South Welsh Premier Chris Ben's
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Speaker 4: Planning Minister Paul Scully, Housing Minister Rose Jackson all very
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Speaker 4: good friends might, of course, no doubt about it, as
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Speaker 4: is Jake McCallum, great reporter, to literally create one hundred
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Speaker 4: and fifty thousand homes out of thin air. So the
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Speaker 4: idea is you to have these little kind of pretty
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Speaker 4: fab kid homes, modular homes, whatever you want to call them,
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Speaker 4: and you just stick them on top of existing buildings.
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Speaker 1: I mean in Supply one saying about making love out
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Speaker 1: of nothing at all, and now they're going to try
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Speaker 1: and make housing out of nothing at all. How fugly
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Speaker 1: are these things going to be? I don't want someone
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Speaker 1: putting some pretty fab modular home on top of my flats.
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Speaker 2: You imagine at a strata meeting.
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Speaker 3: Oh you know what this is reminding me of. It's
43:49
Speaker 3: reminding me of the favelas in Brazil where they just
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Speaker 3: build houses one on top of another and they just
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Speaker 3: stack up over generations. Welcome to the new reality in Australia,
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Speaker 3: literally building slums for ourselves.
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Speaker 1: Even the nuts are bed that was another ear Supply song.
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Speaker 1: But they won't be when you've got modular homes on
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Speaker 1: top of you.
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Speaker 2: Now that might be kind of cool.
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Speaker 1: Oh bugger rubbish that we got cook. Oh, I think
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Speaker 1: it's a garbage. I d see. This is the world
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Speaker 1: is apparently just meant to look ugly. All the cities
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Speaker 1: is just meant to look ugly because we keep importing
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Speaker 1: far too many people. We can't We've got to grow up.
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Speaker 1: We can't grow out. We're a vast country.
44:28
Speaker 2: You know obviously didn't really last UK police report on immigrant.
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Speaker 1: Now we don't have to keep shoehorning people into particularly
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Speaker 1: Sydney and Melbourne. Use the other land for Christ's sake.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the front of the Australian tomorrow Maley's
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Speaker 1: five hundred million dollar hydro bomb and they should drop
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Speaker 1: that on some of those modular houses. I reckon taxpayers
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Speaker 1: are on the hook for app to five hundred million
44:51
Speaker 1: dollars for Premier Peter Melanawskis has failed by our hydrogen
44:54
Speaker 1: plant green dream figures from the Auditor General show. Jeez,
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Speaker 1: this this green hydrogen thing has gone really well in
45:02
Speaker 1: this country, isn't it. Yeah, I mean, just.
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Speaker 3: One success after another, no roadblocks whatsoever, just the whole
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Speaker 3: renewables transition, and very quickly.
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Speaker 1: Also on the front of the NT News tomorrow, it's
45:14
Speaker 1: mentions the defamation trail that just Center Price is currently
45:17
Speaker 1: in coup pilot court claim Northern Territory Senator Juster Price
45:22
Speaker 1: allegedly plotted with an Alice Spring School principal to overthrow
45:25
Speaker 1: the Central Land Council Chief executive Leslie Turner. Her high
45:29
Speaker 1: profile defamation case has heard and Matt Cunningham is covering
45:32
Speaker 1: that very well here on Sky News. You'll get all
45:35
Speaker 1: the details throughout the day after the break. Our dope
45:38
Speaker 1: of the day, the guy who ate bags and bags
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Speaker 1: and bags of lollies and then ended up in hospital
45:44
Speaker 1: for six days. What could possibly go wrong? That's coming
45:47
Speaker 1: up radio. You know what time it is, John the
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Speaker 1: day and today's entry is a fellow from the UK
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Speaker 1: called Nathan Rimington, and for some reason or another thought
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Speaker 1: it would be a great idea to order himself three
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Speaker 1: kilograms of Cola bottle lollies. I quite love a Cola
46:14
Speaker 1: bottle lollie, I have to say, but I've never been
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Speaker 1: compelled to eat three kilos of them over three days.
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Speaker 1: But he thought, hell, I'll give this thing a go.
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Speaker 1: Why not eleven thousand calories worth thirty eight And he
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Speaker 1: turned out, in his own words, to be so bunged
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Speaker 1: up that he couldn't walk or get out of bed.
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Speaker 1: So he took himself off to hospital and they said,
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Speaker 1: make your problem here is that your body is literally
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Speaker 1: clogged with gelatine now, so he can't go to the toilet,
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Speaker 1: like everything is just shutting down. They couldn't believe that
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Speaker 1: he hadn't died from the amount of gelatine that he
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Speaker 1: had consumed in those three days, and he was in
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Speaker 1: hospital for six days to get over it. I mean,
46:57
Speaker 1: you know, I suppose you could say, wow, who would
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Speaker 1: thought that had happened after eating lollies? But hecause thought,
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Speaker 1: we three kilos of lollies in three days.
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Speaker 3: Discussing and he goes, it's not the cleverest thing I've
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Speaker 3: ever done in my life. I can't even look at
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Speaker 3: a cola bottle now, you poor thing mate. This is
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Speaker 3: why the NHS is in absolute crisis.
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Speaker 1: In food poisoning.
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Speaker 4: In the first part, right, so he says, you know
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Speaker 4: they tested for food poison and CT scan that it
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Speaker 4: was awfully, it didn't even occur to him link between
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Speaker 4: eating the three kilogram at post bottels and the fact
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Speaker 4: that he was feeling a bit unwell like they actually
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Speaker 4: they said they asked if I like sweets, so it
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Speaker 4: didn't even occur to him that maybe this might be
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Speaker 4: useful information.
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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, it's just absolutely disgusting. Something else that is
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Speaker 3: disgusting is an Adelaide hotel, The Hotel Metropolitan, has been
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Speaker 3: caught with rats on one of their stoves. It's pretty discussing.
47:58
Speaker 3: Footage obtained by Set shows actual rodents there, but the
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Speaker 3: owner says it's not just their pub. Apparently there is
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Speaker 3: a rodent infestation in this part of Adelaide. Is that
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Speaker 3: legit or is it just a cover up? I'm not sure,
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Speaker 3: but I can tell you the band ub forty predicted
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Speaker 3: this decades ago, and there is certainly a rat in
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Speaker 3: their kitchen.
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Speaker 1: Look justice for the Metro, I reckon. I've spent many
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Speaker 1: a night in there. It's a good watering hole. I've
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Speaker 1: never suspected any of that would be going on in there,
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Speaker 1: so it must be selling's going wrong.
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Speaker 2: Well, I assume they don't advertise it.
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Speaker 4: I assume they don't have this sandwich sport out at
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Speaker 4: the front saying hey, Calebran and just quickly. This is
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Speaker 4: the sort of stuff that proves we are not alone
48:49
Speaker 4: in the universe.
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Speaker 2: People.
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Speaker 4: We have got some junk in our trunk. Some space
48:54
Speaker 4: junk to be precise. Australian Space Agency spoken out after
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Speaker 4: arange discovery burning in the middle of a dirt road
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Speaker 4: in the desert, prompting a multi agency investigations. A strange
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Speaker 4: burning object near a remote access road near.
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Speaker 2: Newman over to you.
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Speaker 1: Is it the Chinese?
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Speaker 2: Who is it?
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Speaker 1: That's right, we'll find out soon what we thank you
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Speaker 1: very much for joining us to night up next to
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Speaker 1: read of panic showed you up.