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INTERVIEW: Chris Patrick On Therapy Through Music, Hunger, Honesty, Mafiathon Freestyle + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Every day a waiting click your ass up the breakfast
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  Speaker 2: club finish for y'all dumb.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's the world most dangerous morning to show to
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  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Charalamaine, the God, Lauren Lroossa, Jess Hilarius, DJ Envy,
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  Speaker 1: but just An Beyond here today. And I'm mad because
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  Speaker 1: you know there's a guy that we have here right now. Man,
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  Speaker 1: he goes by the name of Chris Patrick. Sleuth to
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  Speaker 1: Chris Patrick, how are you? I'm mad because niholosimone put
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  Speaker 1: me onto your music and she not even God damn it.
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  Speaker 3: I know I just saw yesterday, Dad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, day, she souldn't be here this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: You got a new EP, Pray for Me, coming out
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  Speaker 1: on a twelve twelve, and you've been described like I
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  Speaker 1: I've heard you describe yourself as coming from a place
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  Speaker 1: of hunger and self belief. What was the exact moment
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  Speaker 1: you realized music wasn't just something you love or something
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  Speaker 1: you you had to do?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: If I'm be honest, I think back when I was
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  Speaker 4: in college, I had entered like a competition, ended up
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  Speaker 4: winning it, chanced to open for like Travis. So like,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like after that moment, that was the moment
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  Speaker 4: where I decided, like, Yo, this is what I'm gonna do.
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  Speaker 4: I know how I was gonna do it, but I
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  Speaker 4: just was kind of like, this is what it is.
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  Speaker 5: Travis Scott, Traviscott, Travis, Yeah, Scott.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck?
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  Speaker 5: What was that?
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  Speaker 6: So leading up to that moment when you're about to
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  Speaker 6: open up for him, what's the self talk that you're
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  Speaker 6: going through, because you do a lot of self talk
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  Speaker 6: on this project.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, self talk.
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  Speaker 6: You're going through new artists opening up for Travis Scott,
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  Speaker 6: global artists.
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  Speaker 4: I mean back then, because I was in college when
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  Speaker 4: that happened, I was just telling myself like, br this
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  Speaker 4: is crazy, but I just gotta lock in and do it.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't about to just like go up there and
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  Speaker 4: look crazy. That's that's usually by telling myself, I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to go anywhere and look crazy. So I just
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  Speaker 4: got to go to the hardest I could go. And the
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  Speaker 4: titles pray for me, Yeah, what happened? Which sins did
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  Speaker 4: you commit?
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  Speaker 6: Nah?
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  Speaker 3: No, sense I ain't. Did We all committed from me
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  Speaker 3: one hundred percent? But it got nothing to do.
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  Speaker 4: And in regards to that, honestly, the title comes from uh,
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  Speaker 4: back when I was in college with my grandma. She
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  Speaker 4: used to send me scriptures like every day, and she
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  Speaker 4: used to pray for me. She ended up passing back
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  Speaker 4: in like twenty twenty two, and yeah, absolutely appreciate that,
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  Speaker 4: and uh, you know that definitely rocked me. But I
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  Speaker 4: feel like when I went and did that cost in
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  Speaker 4: not mafia Tha, that was the first time in a
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  Speaker 4: very long time I started to see, like so many
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  Speaker 4: people all over the world I ain't we spoke to
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  Speaker 4: just hit me like, brou I'm praying for your success,
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  Speaker 4: like I hope you win, I hope you get this.
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  Speaker 4: And that just felt like a very humbling moment. Kind
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  Speaker 4: of reminded me a lot of like, you know, my grandma.
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  Speaker 4: So that's where I kind of like dedicated that probably name.
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  Speaker 5: To that first song is talking directly about her prayers.
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  Speaker 4: So the song Sary's Prayer, that's actually my man's from Chicago.
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  Speaker 4: He actually prayed for me at the crib when I
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  Speaker 4: lived in La. Well I still live in a La
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  Speaker 4: but I was living at this one spot and he
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  Speaker 4: prayed pray for me before.
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  Speaker 2: I left the crib.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, and then you mentioned the kay Sat moment
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  Speaker 6: in that song as well, where you were like, were.
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  Speaker 5: A little nervous. It was a lot of pressure, like
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  Speaker 5: you didn't even want to go do it at one point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 4: I was definitely nervous because I was in a space
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  Speaker 4: where I just I didn't know what was next to me.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I was just sitting in a waiting space,
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  Speaker 4: not really knowing what was going to be next. And
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  Speaker 4: when my man's gave call me, I was just like, hey, bro,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonnahow itp for you. To the best of my ability.
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  Speaker 4: That's my man. So I said, look, I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 4: in here get kill this for you. Yeah, it's Luthor
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  Speaker 4: gave forre. What was going on though, Like, what was
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  Speaker 4: going through your mind?
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  Speaker 1: Whenever I hear your music, I do hear this passion,
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  Speaker 1: I do hear you expressing your feelings. What was going
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  Speaker 1: on in that particular day though, like leading up to
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  Speaker 1: Mike Mafia, because that was pure emotion, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I just I've been making music for
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  Speaker 4: a long time and I kind of was in this
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  Speaker 4: in between space and not knowing whether I was gonna
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  Speaker 4: continue or not. End up picking a little part time job,
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  Speaker 4: and shit, I'm just getting like into the groove of that,
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  Speaker 4: still working on music and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: But I just more so was thinking to myself, like.
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  Speaker 1: If this was the plan all along, God telling me
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  Speaker 1: I gotta just do this, I'm gonna do that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna, like not trust the timing.
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  Speaker 4: So I kind of went into that whole mafia down
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  Speaker 4: with the idea that if this is my last attempt
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  Speaker 4: to show the world like I'm here, I'm gonna just
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  Speaker 4: do that.
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  Speaker 3: So it really didn't mean a lot to me to
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  Speaker 3: go up there and get crazy like that.
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  Speaker 1: They're expressing your feelings through music coming to you naturally
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  Speaker 1: or was that like a learned behavior naturally naturally.
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  Speaker 3: I was never good at therapy.
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  Speaker 4: I just felt like it was way easy to write
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  Speaker 4: and make music about stuff like that, and I never
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  Speaker 4: really did it for anybody else but myself. But as
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  Speaker 4: I see more people resonate with it, I realize how
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  Speaker 4: important my story is to just people I don't even know.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a big proponent of therapy, so I wanted, like,
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  Speaker 1: why didn't therapy resonate with you?
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm too self aware sometimes gotta be
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  Speaker 4: in there talking and I'm like, yeah, this is something
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  Speaker 4: I already realize my myself.
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  Speaker 3: I need to go work on it.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel like if I'm gonna be real with you,
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  Speaker 4: if I'm diving a little bit deeper, I think there
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  Speaker 4: is sometimes a barrier for me to actually speak about
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  Speaker 4: my issues. It's way easy to write about them and
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  Speaker 4: make them making this song versus actually just sitting there
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  Speaker 4: with a person one on one talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Everything, piece pot piece.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the beauty of therapy, right because you
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  Speaker 1: I always say, like, for whatever questions you have, the
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  Speaker 1: answers are there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, is the sometimes we don't want to hear the
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  Speaker 2: actual answer.
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  Speaker 1: And I think sometimes you sit in there settled and
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  Speaker 1: you just talking and you like.
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  Speaker 2: Damn what I know what? You know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: but you don't for whatever either, it don't. It just
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  Speaker 2: works in that setting. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna say it just works in that setting,
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  Speaker 1: but it comes out in that setting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's definitely.
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  Speaker 4: And I actually have considered like probably trying to start
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  Speaker 4: up again like next year, Like I really want to
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  Speaker 4: try to challenge myself. That's what's something I'm too big
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  Speaker 4: on just trying to challenge myself to be better every day.
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  Speaker 6: What would you do differently than when you go back
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  Speaker 6: to therapy where you're like, because you're always gonna feel
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  Speaker 6: like you're self aware?
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  Speaker 2: For sure. I think I just got better at listening,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: I think sometimes I like to talking, needed to hear
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  Speaker 4: feel like I'm good with X, Y and Z, But
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  Speaker 4: I feel like for a very long time I struggled
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  Speaker 4: with like listening. So I feel like when I go
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  Speaker 4: back this time around, obvious, I'm gonna talk about what
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  Speaker 4: I got going on, but I'm more so receptive to
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  Speaker 4: what whoever is talking to me got to say.
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  Speaker 6: Is that a career thing? Like in your career as
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  Speaker 6: you're growing, have you had to learn? Okay, if I
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  Speaker 6: listened whatever, Like how did you arrive at that? I'm
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  Speaker 6: a just listen point.
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  Speaker 4: It really started with my dad for real, in the
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  Speaker 4: process of like me getting a part time job leading
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  Speaker 4: up to the Mafia Tha thing. I'm talking to him
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  Speaker 4: every day and we just really speaking on the whole
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  Speaker 4: career up to this point, and he was just kind
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  Speaker 4: oftilling in me like, obviously you don't know what the
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  Speaker 4: future is, but you got to be patient, and I
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  Speaker 4: feel like what patients comes listening because a lot of
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  Speaker 4: times when you in the waiting period, you really got
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  Speaker 4: to just listen to everything, Listen to the world, listen
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  Speaker 4: to what God talking about, listening to everything around you,
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  Speaker 4: Like you got to just be receptive to all of that.
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  Speaker 4: So I feel like by developing a you know, a better,
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  Speaker 4: better means of being patient, I was able to listen
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  Speaker 4: better for real, and I definitely think it helping my career.
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  Speaker 6: How do you cause I keep mentioning, keep hearing you
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  Speaker 6: mentioned the part time job, right, but then you're headed
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  Speaker 6: to mafia thigh like the craziness of that.
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  Speaker 2: I respect it.
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  Speaker 3: I do too.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I've been there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I gotta change your
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  Speaker 2: dreams and deal with your reality. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: My question was going to be, how do you keep
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  Speaker 6: your faith or talk about what you went through with
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  Speaker 6: your faith while dealing with your real life but still
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  Speaker 6: chasing your dream because that is everybody can't get through that.
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  Speaker 5: That's like the major key if you can figure that out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna be honest, I really
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  Speaker 4: don't have a real answer. I just feel like there
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  Speaker 4: was something in me, especially when that call came because
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  Speaker 4: at the time, right I'm already in the job for
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  Speaker 4: about two months, I'm getting my feet wet. I'm cooling,
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  Speaker 4: like I'm having a good time at the job, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. When Gabe called me something, me
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  Speaker 4: was just like, bro, just just do this. Do this
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  Speaker 4: all the way I'm talking about I'm going to the job.
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  Speaker 4: I'm rehearsing writing on my free time. I had a
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  Speaker 4: two hour drive like down and back, so like I'm
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  Speaker 4: thinking of stuff if as I'm driving back, I'm rehearsing,
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  Speaker 4: reciting every single day. I just told myself, like, if
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  Speaker 4: this is my last chance, I'm gonna do this. I
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  Speaker 4: just got to do it the best to my ability.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't expect none of this stuff to happen after,
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  Speaker 4: but I was just like, hey, I know, I'm really
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  Speaker 4: good when it comes to just performing in these freestyles.
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  Speaker 4: The best I could do is just go out there
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  Speaker 4: and put on the best show, because I can't be
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  Speaker 4: mad at that if I do my best and nothing
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  Speaker 4: comes from it, I can't be mad because at least
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  Speaker 4: I killed it.
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  Speaker 2: So school me.
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  Speaker 1: When you signed the Depth Jam before Madia line, Uh yeah, Okay, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: because I just saw you was signing dev Jam. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know you was Dev Jam's golden child. I
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  Speaker 1: thought it might Okay, Yeah, why why you feel like that?
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  Speaker 2: Well with Jam?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, def Jam has been a cultural hub,
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  Speaker 4: but just hip hop in general, Like I grew up
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  Speaker 4: on that, and I feel like what I bring to
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  Speaker 4: the table when it comes to Death Jam.
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  Speaker 2: Is that new life.
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  Speaker 4: Like it just feel like reinvigoration just for hip hop.
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  Speaker 4: You know, turning my dog, he's basically like family, and
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  Speaker 4: for him to even just want to do this with
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  Speaker 4: me means the world, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Like again, I grew up on this. My uncle literally
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  Speaker 2: put me on him your every.
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  Speaker 4: Dev Jam artist, So to be a part of a
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  Speaker 4: label like that now it just feels like a full
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  Speaker 4: circle moment, all.
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  Speaker 2: Of us and you from Jersey, Yeah, East the Orange,
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  Speaker 2: to be exact.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why Jersey don't come up in more
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  Speaker 1: hip hop conversations, but honestly, how did East Darns, New
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  Speaker 1: Jersey shape the way you rap and think and.
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  Speaker 2: Just move through the world? Alight?
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  Speaker 4: So again, like my uncle, he put me onto a
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  Speaker 4: lot of rap, but my dad and my mom. They
• 8:14
  Speaker 4: was big on like R and B, so a lot
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  Speaker 4: of Mary J. Blige was getting played in the crib.
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  Speaker 4: That was like every damn day love Mary, let me
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  Speaker 4: see earth Wind the Fire. Huge heavy h influence in
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  Speaker 4: terms of just like the musicality and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel like Jersey has always been a melting pot.
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  Speaker 4: There's never been like a specific sound that comes out
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  Speaker 4: of the place. It's just like a melting pot of
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  Speaker 4: so many different things. And the beauty of that is
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  Speaker 4: that it allows I feel like, for me, there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of versutility that lives in my music. But it
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  Speaker 4: also allows us, over the next decade, or at least
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  Speaker 4: the second half of this decade, to start finding that
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  Speaker 4: identity because I feel like there are so many amazing
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  Speaker 4: people that's coming up right now, Like you got the
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  Speaker 4: plat boy Max's you know, I'll be out back out
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  Speaker 4: you know to surf on.
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  Speaker 2: That Waersey Yeah, West Orange, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, He's amazing. Crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy because you never think the screams from the internet,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying, sciss you feel me a lot
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  Speaker 4: of themes out there, Kyrie Irving, Like there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people from Jersey, and I just hope that within
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  Speaker 4: this second half of the decade we can start seeing
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  Speaker 4: like a lot more these people get together in unite
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  Speaker 4: because for a very long time we've really never had
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  Speaker 4: a strong identity in terms of that space.
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  Speaker 2: The last rapper that came from Jersey that I can
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  Speaker 2: remember is yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm sure there's been other people, but I feel
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  Speaker 4: like we go under the radar so damn much. Even
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  Speaker 4: getting on Mafia thought and like screaming from the rooftop
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  Speaker 4: like Jersey Like that should mean a lot to me
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  Speaker 4: because like.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Jersey had icons. You got you know, Naughty
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  Speaker 1: by Nature for you know, musical red Man, like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: legends legends in Jersey.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, people don't about Jersey either.
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  Speaker 6: Gives you a whole rundown what you need to go
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  Speaker 6: do talking about the guy what you said, we were
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  Speaker 6: talking about you and te.
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  Speaker 2: No no no no no no no.
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  Speaker 3: I me and my moms. But absolutely I love that
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  Speaker 3: you do that than any of them.
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  Speaker 2: Is fire you growing up?
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, I would.
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  Speaker 4: Feel like it really happened a little bit more towards
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  Speaker 4: the high school because when I was growing up, I
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  Speaker 4: was kind of just like a sports guy. I didn't
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  Speaker 4: really get into music crazy until like middle school, high school,
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  Speaker 4: and that's when I started getting onto everything. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: say anything specifically, but as I get older now I'm
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  Speaker 4: always trying to draw from anything.
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  Speaker 3: I'm listening to Jersey just to pay homage for when you.
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  Speaker 6: Did the stream, there was a lot of people that
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  Speaker 6: like came out and like co signed you right after that.
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  Speaker 6: It was like crazy viral. Yeah, what was most surprising
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  Speaker 6: for you? I saw NAS?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, NAS was nuts. Shoutout dread the Rose for that.
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  Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson was crazy. I woke up to
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: six in the morning and seeing Russell Wilson talking about
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  Speaker 4: some a brit It's hard.
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  Speaker 2: You're a sports guy. I can tell you brush past
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  Speaker 2: knobs bro.
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  Speaker 3: Russell Wilson like, like I was crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Like a lot of people see the NAS thinking like
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna try to play like NAS is like legend,
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  Speaker 4: that's one of my heroes. But like rus Wilson, that's
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  Speaker 4: kind of nuts too, you know what I'm saying. Obviously
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: there are two different realms in terms of like what
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  Speaker 4: you was really basing on. But like the NAS and
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  Speaker 4: Russell Wilson Wills was definitely the craziest ever can you.
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  Speaker 5: Talk about like just from so you do.
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  Speaker 6: The stream is viral and people connected with it because
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  Speaker 6: it was so emotional about your Grandmadat. Right after that,
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  Speaker 6: like what opportunities open up for you?
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  Speaker 5: I know you got the tour with.
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  Speaker 1: Jid Yeah, wow, wow, that question always be like so
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: many things have happened in the period of time since then,
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  Speaker 1: it's like kind of hard to always remember.
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  Speaker 4: But the Jed tour was definitely one of the biggest ones.
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  Speaker 4: Super appreciative to obviously Jid burying Zeep to my dogs,
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  Speaker 4: taking me through the Midwest. I never been I never
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  Speaker 4: actually tore through the states like that before, so that
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  Speaker 4: was really like super super cool.
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  Speaker 3: I met a lot of amazing people. I got so
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  Speaker 3: many producer packs.
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  Speaker 5: Wait, so the Jig tour happened.
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  Speaker 6: I thought that you already had that in the works,
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  Speaker 6: and then he shouted you out and then after announced
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  Speaker 6: it hit you because.
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  Speaker 2: Of the YO.
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  Speaker 4: I got the call eight days before. I'm not even joking,
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  Speaker 4: and I've just suited up and just did what it did.
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  Speaker 4: I told my job, I said, look, I ain't gonna
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  Speaker 4: lot of y'all this as crazy as hell, but like
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  Speaker 4: I gotta.
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  Speaker 3: Go, and it was like, yeah, for sure, I still
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  Speaker 3: have my job.
• 11:53
  Speaker 4: When I was on tour and I was coming back
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: and I was actually gonna go back to that the job,
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: but then other craziness happened, I just told him like, hey,
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's fair to y'all that I do this,
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: so I'm just take a step back.
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: What kind of job.
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: It was a music installation company. Yeah, like we used
• 12:07
  Speaker 4: to go in and stall like radio systems. Now we
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: used to install sound systems like churches and stuff like that. Yeah,
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: So I was out of la doing that.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: Dope.
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fine.
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: Is that a trade you gotta learn or nah?
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: I feel like just over the time of everything I've
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: been doing in this, I just was learning everything.
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: Like everywhere I go, I try to learn as much
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: as I can.
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: We tore with Russ like back in twenty twenty four,
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: so like I was with his team a lot. I'm
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: just learning everything as I'm going. So from now I'm
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: picking up tips and I actually use that in my interview.
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: Not even a lot of what got me the job
• 12:33
  Speaker 4: for being an artist and having had a lot of
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: this experience on the road and stuff like that.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: What personal battles do you think your listeners here the
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: most clearly in your music?
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: Uh? I feel like for me, it's just confidence, you
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I feel like it's like all
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: of us, you know what I'm saying. We wake up
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: every day trying to just be the best version of ourselves,
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: and it's very hard to do that sometimes when there's
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: so much noise, Like I could imagine what y'all go through,
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: assholests being on this everything's literally under a space like assholes.
• 13:00
  Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no, no no no.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Whut you ass hosts?
• 13:09
  Speaker 5: Of course yep, but you know, ass hosts.
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: Like y'all are under a spotlight. I can only imagine
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: scrutiny that y'all go through, And I feel like y'all
• 13:16
  Speaker 4: got it harder than the regular average person, but the
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: average person still goes through that too. So I feel
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: like every day is a challenge of like putting your
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: pants on and telling yourself that nigga, like I gotta
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: get up and do this for me, it's not about
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: proving it to the world, but more so affirming in
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: yourself that you are the person you think.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: You of, especially nowadays when you we live in an
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: era where every single day of your life you can
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: go on your phone and it's somebody trying to tell
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: you that you ain't shit. Hell yeah, I don't even
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: know you, bro, there's no there's no picture on your thing.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: I can't even say your name on this Twitter or
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: this Instagram app. And you're telling me we've never met before,
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: that that what I'm doing and ship and it's like, Bro,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't ask for that, and a lot of it too.
• 13:49
  Speaker 6: I always think about this is like if people were
• 13:51
  Speaker 6: if people had the opportunity to do what you were doing,
• 13:54
  Speaker 6: they probably couldn't. They couldn't push it to the finish
• 13:56
  Speaker 6: line the way that you do every day.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: There's like probably one percent of people if they put
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: your right now, they would literally forward at the starting line.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, every single time. Like it's cool.
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: That's what I like most about your project.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: Though.
• 14:05
  Speaker 6: It felt like I was on a journey with you.
• 14:07
  Speaker 6: That would feels very familiar to you know, just where
• 14:09
  Speaker 6: I am in life right now. Of like you're talking
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: yourself through like a very vulnerable moment of like I
• 14:14
  Speaker 6: feel pressure, of like you're building. It's built, it's there,
• 14:18
  Speaker 6: people see it. But the pressures in the you get
• 14:20
  Speaker 6: to these levels where you're dealing with things that you
• 14:22
  Speaker 6: didn't even know you're gonna deal with, and then it's
• 14:24
  Speaker 6: like your new kid at school all over again. You
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: gotta talk yourself through it all over again, and it's
• 14:29
  Speaker 6: it felt very familiar.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: You sum that up amazingly literally first day at school.
• 14:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's like you do the first day at
• 14:34
  Speaker 6: school so many times and you're like.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: No, I just was here, Like but that's the beauty
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: of life.
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: I feel like if we are going through a year
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: and we don't feel like the first day is something wrong,
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: you should be feeling like we have to restart and
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: move our way up that you know, that's tower genuinely.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: Other artist reminds me that j Cole. I get not
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: first day of school all the time from him, but
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: like he does a lot of like reflective like wrap
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: up it, like every.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: Time col pop out, always feel like a new version
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: of cold, which I do I really appreciate a lot
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: from because I feel like we don't see that much
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: in especially like Black artists, Like it's already. I have
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: this theory in my mind that we really don't see
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: what happens to black people like after thirties. I feel
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: like what's perpetuated as the twenties, but like what happens
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: as you get older? What does it look like? What
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: does it look like raising a family? And I feel
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: like when I listen to call a lot of times
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: it's cool to see what that inside looks like, especially as.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: I get older as a black man, trying to figure
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: it out too fee me.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: What you're speaking to is you know, and you're absolutely right.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: For a long time, hip hop had a glass ceiling,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: mean that you look up and you think you can
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: go higher, but you eventually hit your head. And it's
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: because a lot of people, artists, media personality, they were
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: afraid to grow and evolve because they experienced a lot
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: of success.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Being one way.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: And then you know, the cultural cachet was in the
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: street for a long time. People were really afraid to
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: be themselves. So now you've got a whole generation that's
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: got a lot more emotional intelligence. They're doing the work
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: on themselves, so they going to therapy and stuff like that.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: They're loving on they wives and their girlfriends are being
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: committed to one shoming and you know, having these beautiful families,
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, you're right. Like to me, I think
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: that in the future, mister Morale and the Big Stuff
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: and jay Z four four four are gonna go down.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: It's two of the most important hip hop albums ever.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nah, I no, Like I feel like you really
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: summed it up to there.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: It's like you see these Disney movies, it's always like
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Happily ever after, but like the what come after? You right,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: that missed them around at four four four? It really
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: is the part that come after that happen. We have
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: a part that's the after genuinely.
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: You also talk about on the project Screaming at the Sky.
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: You mentioned you hate church, but you tune in on
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: Sundays because you want to feel close to your grandmother.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, what Why would church? What talk us through your.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: I feel like the journey for a very long time
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: and we see it now the way, like religion in
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: itself is sometimes manipulated for the wrong reasons. I feel
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: like everybody should have their own relationship, whatever that is.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Whatever it is you believe
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: in your relationship is unique to you, and whatever that
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: is is what it is.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: What I believe in what you believing, what she believing.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: It should never clash. It's e mortal.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Be a conversation to just understand how we maneuver those relationships.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: But it's to each his own.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: And I feel like when I was growing up, especially
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: as a you know, black kid, you going to some
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: of these churches.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: I went to some church white churches with my mama.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: I'm like, look, it's cool, but I don't know.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: This really hit for me, and for a very long time,
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: I kind of didn't really want to be a part
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: of it. But again, with everything that's been happening in
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: my life, I've just been tapping in form of my own.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Relationship and that's real though.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: I really did a tune in to like just fear
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: that connection because the only person who was doing that
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: at the time my life was my grandma. Funny enough,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: my job worked in churches at the same time too,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: So for like Smooth two and a half months, I'm
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: just locked there, like going through it, and they were
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: the company it was ran. It was Korean based, so
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: I'm getting to see all this stuff from way different angles.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Like I'm just opening to the world, just trying to
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: see everything. But everybody's relationship is there, is your grandmother
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: visit you? I do believe that. I feel like I'm
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: not even joking too, Like even in that open line,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: I was like, I stopped smoking because I feel like,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: for a very long time.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I used to have dreams.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: And I really appreciate you asking that first for some
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: most because nobody ever asked me that before.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: But I used to have dreams for a while.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: I didn't have them dreams with my grandma on them,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: and I wouldn't say I had one recently. But I
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: feel like that cost not Mafia moment just felt too divine,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: but it didn't feel real, like my mama is my
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: mam Mama. So my mama called me and was like, YO,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: don't take this the wrong way. But I definitely feel
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: like my mama heard that and that was all I needed.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: I feel like everything that's been happening, like even its
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: mama we in right now, this don't even feel real,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: like happy to be here, obviously grateful that y'all haven't be.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: But again, I'm not like I'm too self aware, like
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: this is this shit is like the bond time now.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I asked because that my mother's mother, my big mama.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: She visited me twice.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Wow in a dream.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: That's why I always ask that, Yeah, because it's one
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: of those things. It's like, damn, I wish that would
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: happen again.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I feel like the last time I really really remember it,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: so my grandmama passed in twenty twenty two. It was
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: when I was living in Nashville twenty twenty three. I
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: just one night had a random dream and that was
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: it and it never happened again. But the closer I
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: got to that was like, mafia, do janmuinely?
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Or yeah?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: You know your your songs are like journal in trees?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: What's the line between vulnerability and over sharing for you?
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: And how do you know what to keep to yourself?
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I'm big, I'm protecting my peace. I feel like I
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: do a good job expressing myself. But like niggas don't
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: know my mama name, you feel me like that's important
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: to me, Like I want to keep certain things to me.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: I feel like as I'm barking on this journey, I
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: realize that it's not just me stepping in as a rapper,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: but like this the entertainment business and everything is entertainment.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: There are some things and some people that I would
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: rather keep out of the light. I'm cool with living
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: in that, but these people ain't ask for that either,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: and I got to be responsible and kindnizant of that
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: as an artist, you know what I'm saying. Like, even
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: as me and my mama figuring out this voicemail that
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: we're putting on there, I'm letting her know, like, Hey,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I want you to hear this whole project before we
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: put this out here, because this is not only my story,
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: you part of this too, So like, if you're not
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: cool with this, we're not doing it. But it's like,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: you know, it involves everybody again, everybody know I got
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: on my every ride.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: No, I got dad.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know their names, but like that's the line
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: I draw. I got a brother, don't be know my
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: brother name. Like you know what I'm saying. I'm big
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: on that. I talk about the homies lot because we
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: all together, But like I try to keep that wall
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: to the best of its ability because I don't want
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: to ask to nobody life who can't ask for it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: How is mom right now?
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: And all of this like kind of dealing with like
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: your life changing and watching it change.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: And she called me every day. She called me every day.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: I think that's the biggest thing for me. There was
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: a period of how I me and her wasn't talking
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: every day. And I don't know, like like bad blood
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: or anything like that, but I just wasn't in the
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: right space of mind. I'm moving around and all the shit,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: and I wasn't really thinking about that. But I feel
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: like as this year is progressed, her, me, her and
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: my dad just get super close. Like I'm calling him
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: every single day to talk to them. It's fired because
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: I haven't been back in like eighteen months, so I've
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: been at the crib for like the last week, so
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: that's been five and hanging out with them. But I
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: talk to them like every day like that. Those are
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: my dogs, Like I always trying to make sure they're good.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: They always looking out for me, even if it's just
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: calling for five minutes of the day. They appreciate that,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: and I just try to make that a mission for
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: anything that I'm doing moving forward.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Even with my grandma, I don't think I did enough
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: So there's a super emphasis on that now to just
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: be present in everybody's life as much as I can be.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Because you never know, Yeah, you never know, take that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Shit for granted, Like my grandma. So I started my
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: list because my grandma, she had a friend who did
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: my hair in COVID because we know it was in
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: the crib and stuff like that. And he kept telling
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: me too during the year that she was that she passed, like, yo,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: go visical, visical visit. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm gonna
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: go eventually, just never did. And eventually that you know
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: that next time turns into it never again and you
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: gotta live with that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: So I just try to be as president as I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: can be with my parents more than ever. You know,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of artists struggle with comparing their journey to others, right,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: like how do you keep your confidence in creativity and
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: tact and a culture that's constantly measuring you against everybody else.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I just focus on Chris Patrick. I can't be I
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: can't be anything else but Chris Patrick. Chris Patrick can't
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: be called Chris Patrick, can't be anybody else that any
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: like Kendrick can't be anything else but me. And I
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: feel like, at the end of the day, as long
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: as I'm working to be the best version of myself,
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: I'm always going to be the best when I show up. Granted,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: there's always going to be a competitive nature to the sport,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: which I'm very much aware of, and I'm willing to
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: compete in that. But at the same time, I'm not
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: killing myself in my head over this. As long as
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I show up and I'm elevating myself, I'm gonna look
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: up and eventually it's gonna be nobody around, just me.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: I text Gabe from on the Radar and told them
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: that we were going to be interviewing you, and I was.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: I asked him, I said, the first time you put
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: him on the radar, what made you like so many artists?
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: And he says there was just a hunger in him
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: that I don't see him any artists, a desire to
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: make it and get it done by any means necessary.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: He's really the one you're getting some big knots. I'm
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: really happy for you, Nah.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: That means a lot. Like especially gay Man, really good guy.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I'm appreciative that he even hit me. I tell him
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: all the time, like, you have no idea how much
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: this means to me. Even asking me to come and
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: do this the second time.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: I don't think he understands what his platform is doing
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: for people. Tell him that time, like, Yo, this platform
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: is really changing people's lives, like off of art.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you get on there and you do what
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: you're supposed to do, who knows what comes right?
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Like, literally, i ain't know what's gonna happen.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: What's something you were once afraid of then no longer
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: scared you put myself out there. I don't fear that anymore.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: I feel like the more I put myself out there,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: not even on, not even on like I'm doing it
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: for the sake of anything. It's just I feel like
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: the more honest I am about myself and everything I'm
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: going through, it.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Just seems like the more people keep coming in. I'm
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: not even gonna lie.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: We was on this Jiitsuur doing that same man in
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: the Garden versus as Wow, because I'm seeing people after
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: the show. I'm talking about show get let out, after
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: the gig show, you got a hundred two hundred, three
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: hundred people waiting and to just talk to me about how
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: that verse really resonated with him and hit And that's
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: like it mean a lot because again, a couple.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Months ago, I'm sitting at my job taping on the
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: computer writing up X Y and Z.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking about this, but.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: A couple of weeks past, every night sound out merch
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: like we had to reap so many times on the
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: tour because they just kept buying shit, and I'm like, well,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: this is crazy.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: So I feel like.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Just being myself, and you know, I think to become SUSCEPF,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: we gotta be willing to embarrass yourself.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: And sometimes it don't even be embarrassing. We just be
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: in our heads a lot. People really be needing the shit. Like,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, what's something you're still working through,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: trying to work life balance?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I suck. I suck. It's not real. Yeah, you know.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I told my mama. I said, I feel like I'm
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: a really good rapper, but I gotta be a better son.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: I gotta be a better brother, I gotta be a
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: better friend, gotta be a better cousin, better uncle. Like
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to be. And that's something I
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: feel like. I really got to work at rapping. It
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: come naturally to me. But everything else is what I
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: gotta work. And I'm cool with that, you know what
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I'm saying.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I would rather have it that way than just not
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: knowing what I want to do. But it's it's an
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: uphill battle, but I'm willing to work at it. That's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: so interesting, man, because you know me and my wife
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: we always talk about how like, you know, there's no
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: manual for parenting, right, Yeah, but you just made me
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: think about something like as a rapper, there's like you
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: can do a mafia thin freestyle and somebody be like, yo,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: you nice.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: You get the validation. Hey, you don't get that. Have
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a father, or a son or a husband, Like, ain't.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Nobody you feel men Like your wife might tell you
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: every now and then you a good husband, But.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't even know if you're doing a good job.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: You don't know what you're working through, what you're working through,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: or what you're working on is actually bringing you to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: where you go.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: You kind of just got to go with the flow.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: And that's just something I'm open to learning, just how
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: to be a better person altogether.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Like as your star girls, is that pressure of trying
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: to figure out all that other stuff, being a better son, brother,
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: all those things? Does that grow as well?
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I think so, you know what I'm saying, I feel
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: like I spent the first part of like starting his career,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: putting so much pressure on the work that I was doing,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: to the point where like I become some meticulous in
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: detail the second nature. But I feel like now having
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: to deal with this other side is so much more
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: rewarding because I can see it in real time, me
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: writing versus every single day for two years in a row.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: You don't know what that turns into until you have
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: your moment. But picking up the phone from my mama
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: every day for the next two years, that's beautiful. I'm
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: not gonna get that back. That's time.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I'm never gonna be able to that. There's no amount
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: of money in the world.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: That can make that time up if I don't take
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: this moment to call my parents, Like I don't get
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: that back.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: What do you feel is missing for rap right now
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: that you're intentionally trying to put back.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Niggas need to care. There's too many people who are good,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: but they don't care enough. And I feel like that's
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: my problem, Like I can't. I know I'm personally talented.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't even say that like I'm more talented than
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: the next man. I just think I care more, and
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: that's what I want to show people like, Yo, this
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: shit can be done, like we working this pay for
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: me projects, doing and a half weeks.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: That's care.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I ain't never heard no shit like that. I ain't
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: never seen people do nothing like that. Two and a
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: half weeks, bro. For the moment Mafia thrown in it. Bro,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I literally locked the next day playing call my phone
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to side.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: It's not it's not a long time, but you like
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: what Yeah, Bro, I'm a crackhead about this shit, Like
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I really do this and I just want people to care.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I want people to put.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: The intensity in there. I remember, Uh, somebody has seen
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: one of my videos. They was like, Yo, you look
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: really angry and that. I'm like, Bro, I just wanted
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: to deliver the performance. I'm a really nice guy, y'all
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: see me. I ain't coming here on no bullshit.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: I didn't know what you were gonna be like in
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: person because they music it is very like intense, you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: but you like super jolly.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: I'll be flipping the switch like I'm very like chill,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: very laid back. But when it comes to that, when
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: it comes to that ship, oh yeah, I'm a hooper.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I just want people to care.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Like, I think we need to see more artists caring,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: showing their journey, showing themselves going hard, because that's what
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: made me a fan growing up with like all the
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: people that we love. Now, when I see you know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Cole going to do that be free joint he did
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: on that late night show.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: It's like, WHOA, that shit stuck with me forever.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie. I really modeled a lot of
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: my mafia throwing around that shit. It's like, bro, he
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: went up there and made a moment that we wasn't expecting.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Fucking I'm gonna do the same, you know what I'm saying.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: So I just want people to care again.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Do you ever?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I mean it's interesting because like people love you because
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: you're honest. I love you because your emotion. Your emotion,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you expressure relatability. Do you ever feel pressure to, like
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I guess, always show up as that strong, self aware
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: version of yourself that people are going to expect because
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have bad things.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. I mean it's they're my best friend.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Money man is he already know he see it all?
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: He know how I get. I feel like it's about
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: having pockets, Like there'll be days where I do be
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: down and like he'll see that, but maybe not everybody else.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: And that's cool, Like that's my man's for life. We
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: just talk about things, we move from it, and we
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: go through it.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: But I try not to show too much of that
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: because I've started to realize that I also have a responsibility.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: There are people in the world who be like bra
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: If I could show y'all some of the messages I've
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: received after this, it'll make you cry, like it's really
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: crazy how people looking at me. And I'm not gonna
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: be I'm not gonna be foolish act like I don't
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: got a responsibility. Granted, there's no pressure on me to
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: feel like I got to be somebody savior, but I
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: don't have any problem being the beacon. If somebody need
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: that to get through their days, I'm cool with that.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: And and don't let people think that you perfect at
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: all at all. You might see, that's what I'm saying.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: It might see you with some liquid, it might see you.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Feel with the ladies, you know what I mean. Outside,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: But I feel like that's the beauty of life.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Though for a very long time we've been watching everything
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: through like a perfect picture but like you got to
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: see how the artist got there, Like it takes so
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: much for us to show up every day.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: I'm sure it took a lot for y'all to show
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: up today.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you'all was going through, but it's
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: like y'all, you know, showing up at y'all best sales.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: But people have to realize it's so much more than that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: It's so much more than that. And I don't have
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: a problem showing that, Like it's okay to be your
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: health cool.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: What's the biggest misconception people have about Chris Patrick the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: person versus Chris Patrick the artist?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: By this misconception.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: That I'm like very chilling, like perfect as a person,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I feel like as I meet more people, uh.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: They just have to realize, oh, he's just like us,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: like absolutely man, Like I grew up in easterns New Jersey.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I was with the homies just like damn near everybody else.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I feel like, if there's any misconception, I just want
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: people to know, like I'm a person. I feel like
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: for a very long time, just like streamers, I feel
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: like for a very long time, I existed on the Internet.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: And this is like the year where everybody started to
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: see it in real talent, like this is a real
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: like this is a real person, not just some nigga
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: that you're seeing on one of them pages on Twitter
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: or some ship. Like this is a real deal person.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: And I feel like as I continue to meet more people,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: I think the feedback is, oh, yeah, you just like us.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: And it's just you know, I've been here with that
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: raw emotion, man, people can feel that.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I remember sitting at the house and you know, we
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: was listening to Ruben Vincent album with me and no
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Ill of my wife listening to Ruby Vincent albums and Star.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: And I love Marchael plus.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Now that's my brother, both of them, Ruben and Marco
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: them my brother's for real. Very If you like Ruben
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and Marco, you're gonna like. This is Chris Patrick and
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: she plays she just started playing.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I was like, who is Chris Patrick?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that's what the dude from
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the Mafia thumb and she just started playing me music
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh, I feel what I
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: feel what he's doing.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Hey, I feel what you're doing. Appreciate.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I'm glad I found, you know, found a way into
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: your home to bump that for real? What's a what's a.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Piece of advice you'd give this someone fighting through the
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: same doubts that you once had.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Show up every day. There's nothing you could do, Like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: there's nothing more you can do but just show up.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: There's gonna be days where it's not like I'm not
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: gonna lie. Don't even think there's perfect situation. The perfect
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: situation is always now you can make the situation perfect.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: There are gonna be times where you show up to
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: something and it's not going the way it's supposed to go.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: But if you control what you have to do and
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: you prepare the way you have to prepare, it could
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: become the greatest situation of your life.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Like, nobody knows what I was going into going through
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: before the mafit down, but I showed up and did
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: my best and it became a perfect situation, you know
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And I feel like that's something that
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: everybody has to do consistently. Just wake up every day
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: and do your thing. As long as you do that,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: you're good. And I feel like if you operate under
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: the guys that there is no reward, you're doing it
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: for you. You're gonna be rewarded every single day for
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: that something is crazy's gonna come your way and it's
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: gonna be like damn, I don't even expect it, but
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: it's because you work for it unknowingly.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Oh I know why I bought that up. I bought
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: that up because it felt like it feels like it's
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: a new class. Yeah you know what I mean.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, we always have that in hip hop,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: and that's why you know, people still sleep on double exelf.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: But I like when they do that freshman class thing.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: But it feels like y'all are a part of a class.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Do you do you feel that, Like, let's be real,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: when of the last time you've seen it, like, at
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: least within this space of hip hop, when's the last
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: time you really seen a class of people like this
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: many people going up that you identify it together.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: It's been a while.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fifteen plus years ago when it was the Kendricks
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and Nicoles and the Drakes and the Walets and yeah.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: You know, now even know if that's the same area.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I feel like Lee and Cudding, it might have been
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: like a class.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Before we could group them all up in there, they
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: all together in my mind because I feel like everybody
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: had impact impact at that time, you know what I'm saying.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: But it's like, you're right, we haven't seen that.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Like I feel like individuals you might have seen pop
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: in and out, but we've never seen this many people
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: at least be all cohesive and on the same page
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: to do this you don't actually care about actually want
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: a rap for real, you know what I'm saying, Like
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I was crapping my projects with like the Rubins, the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Marcos Bean, Riley Swabs, like Jordan bean Is like every day,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: like we was broke together. We was writing these projects together.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: We were literally like putting all this shit together, bouncing
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: off ideas, we playing each other projects. We're like, oh
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: yeah we fuck with this.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: We don't fuck with this, Hey, bro work on this,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Like we always cracking the shit together. And then you
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: start to see that expand as we start to meet
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: more people and shit like that, like we really all
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: coming up together and this shit the same way they was.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: So I'm just glad that everybody else could see it,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: because for a very long time we just felt like
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: it was us in this low bubble and nobody realized.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: And then you start seeing one person get it, then
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: another person get it, and the third person getting everybody
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: talking about everybody. So it's good that y'all can identify
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: that the same way we've always been talking about for the.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Last year and a half.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: I feel like y'all have the So it's the Internet,
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: but y'all know what to do with it. Like when
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: you mentioned Ruben, I think about like all of his
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: visuals and like, you know what I mean, Like when
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: I met him, I didn't know who he was, but
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: then when I followed him, I'm like, oh, like and
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: then I'm hearing your music and Marko plus and like
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: all these people. Y'all know how there's like a middle
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: point that y'all have figured out where it's Internet, but
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: it's substance and it's work in business built around at
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: the same time, people can't like juggle that all yeah,
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: And that's like itself is like a oh, like it
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: makes you want to like tap in, like all right,
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: what's next.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: One thing we always study is like, you know, obviously
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: like the Cold Drake Kendrick.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: It's like one thing that they always did was beingm
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: pactful and regardless of what the Internet is talking about
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: as long as you hit that wave and you impactful,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: they're it's cool, but you also got to go touch
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: the That's more than anything you got touch with people
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Like this internet shit, it's only as real as we
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: let it be. But what's realist Showing up to a
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: spot and it's twenty five hundred people there. You ain't
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: never met them with Daniel life, but three hundred that
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: want to talk to you after the show, they want
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: to buy your shit. That's real impact. So as long
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: as we can get out there, I mean obviously digitally
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: be killing it, but like, if you can go out
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: there and touch people in person, you good.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: And you look at your future you know, musically, personally,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and most importantly spiritually. Yeah, what would success look like
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: to you? If you took the charts out, the awards,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: screaming numbers, if you took all that out of the equation,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: what would success look like?
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Shit?
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Mo, Mo, move my parents out of Jersey. They're like Texas,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: they want to move down south for like Georgia. They
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: we want to move down south for a very long time.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: And that's really where like my mind is. I swear
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: to God, I might even try to lie, but like
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: when I have my part time drive. I kind of
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: accept that, like if this is where my journey is
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: and it's cool, like it's just what it is, that's
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: the way it goes. So I feel like what's happening
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: right now is the bonus round for me, fucking the
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: charts and all that other shit, Like if I could
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: make sure my parents is good, like that mean the world,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: because when I it on myself, they never did, so
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: like I'm here for that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: I had that same moment right before I got a
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: job that like changed my I was like, yo, if
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: it's over right here, I'm cool, Like I didn't and
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: then everything just like switch. It was like it's so weird, so.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Weird had it happens. And I feel like there's a
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: lot of detachment there. Unless you unless you seek the outcome,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: the more likely it is for you to come. I
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: feel like people who granted I do believe that you
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: have to lock in for the work you're doing, but
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: it's not for the sake of the outcome. It's for
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: the sake of the work. But when you're so focused
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: on the result, a lot of times you miss the mark.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Like you can't be too hyper focused on that. You
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: gotta do all the intangibles that people can't see, Like,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: they don't know if you're waking up at five in
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: the morning to get right. They don't know if you're
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: writing every day, they don't know if you're trying to
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: work on X, Y and Z. That's the type of
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: stuff that's gonna bring you to where you gotta get to.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: But you know, I feel you congratulations too. Also, I
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: think that's an amazing thing that you just shared with
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: me because people don't be talking about it like that.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: You do the same shit.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: You said something else that's very important too. You said,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you know, your last job, if that was it for you,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: you were happy with that, And I truly believe that.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: You know, God isn't gonna bless you with more unless
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: you appreciate what you have. Yeah, and you know the
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: fact that you had something that you appreciate and you like,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: all right, God, this is cool.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I'm cool with this. That's why you receiving more blessings now.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: No, lie.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: And that's why I'm trying to go hard too, because
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: it's like I feel like in the past, I'm out
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: of funding my opportunity, whether it being like I'm blinded
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: focused on the rose out.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, doing shit I shouldn't be doing.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: If this is my opportunity to really get it crazy,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: I'm not about to waste this somebody to go dumb hard,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: because really I want to miss it.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I gotta get it done. Listen, man, Chris Patrick, Pray
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: for Me is out December twelfth. That's tomorrow.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, today, today, today, today, God damn.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Chris Pratrick Pray for Me is out right now. Man,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: good meeting you, brother.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Nah, like well, I appreciate you having me.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Thank you absolutely. It's the Breakfast Club.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Wake that ass up in the morning.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.