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Innovation in health #7 CEO Peter Gillooly · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Okay, so listen, cancer is probably the leading cause.
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  Well, it is the leading cause worldwide of deaths.
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  There's no doubt about that.
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  In the U.S., it's one of two uh killers, and that is going to be heart and cancer.
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  Uh, those are the two you got to watch out for, and they take a lot of lives.
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  Uh, and and there are things we talk about on the platform here, the network for sure here.
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  Uh, we're gonna talk about that today, a bit with you here, but there's a very fascinating study that Dr.
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  McCullough and I talked about this past week, and you you may have seen it, uh, but I I want to dive into this a little bit more with someone special here.
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  I'm really excited to have on the broadcast.
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  Uh, and uh, but beyond that, beyond this uh study that that the wellness company and the McCullough Foundation were responsible for to uh move the ball forward.
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  And and in fact, the the show we did on this that I did here this past week.
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  Listen to this, and you can see this still on the front page.
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  Ivermectin and mbendazole stuns the cancer world.
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  And of course, that's our QA series on pulse, which you you may be familiar with here.
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  So we'll talk a bit about that today, friends, and also uh I'm gonna talk about innovation and healthcare a bit as well.
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  Because you don't hear that a lot, you don't hear those words uh a lot.
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  And I want I'm gonna touch on that.
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  And then you know, another thing I've been really fascinated with, and you probably have as well, is the peptides.
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  This this this rise of peptides.
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  And I when I started talking, and we were talking on the show and on the network, I didn't know a hell of a lot about it.
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  But I was hearing it a lot, and I thought, I gotta find out.
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  And anyways, this is really fascinating stuff as you understand what peptides versus proteins and what that's all about.
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  And there's some very revolutionary products as well.
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  Welcome in, my fellow Americans to Project Out Loud.
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  It is Malcolm Out Loud here.
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  And I am just thrilled, excited to have on here.
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  The CEO of the wellness company, Peter Gally joins me.
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  And uh, he's been at the helm of the wellness company since the summer of 22 when they launched.
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  And and and later on, we'll talk about this a little bit, Peter.
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  But I look at you guys as having a media meteoric rise, uh, really on the I that's how I phrase it, those are my words in the health and wellness space, uh, that you don't see a lot of out there anymore.
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  But I that's kind of how I look at uh how do you see it?
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  It's a very nice compliment for sure.
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  I I think we've just identified uh a big missing gap in our healthcare system, Malcolm, uh, where honest doctors can actually cut through all that misinformation with medical science and medical fact.
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  And if there's a silver lining from the pandemic, it's that people woke up and they said for the first time in their lives, huh?
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  Maybe some of this natural medicine, this alternative medicine, maybe there's something to that.
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  And a lot of doctors woke up as well, and we have found our footing working with doctors like uh Dr.
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  McCullough to shed light on all of these different non-allopathic modalities of medicine, as well as the allopathic things that work.
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  We were way out ahead of the story when it came for ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of COVID-19, and we've been way out ahead of a lot of other topics like cancer, which we'll talk about later today.
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  But I really think that there's a massive, massive need in America today to have other options, not just what that sleepy general practitioner tells you that you've spoke to the last 40 years for eight minutes at your physical.
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  People want to take their health into their own hands.
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  Yeah, it will brings the control back to the patient, uh, to the consumer.
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  And that's something that's been missing for a long time.
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  And you know what you said there.
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  The most important takeaway I'm taking out of what you start with there is this fact that, and you're absolutely correct, is this fact that COVID, there's a silver lining in this COVID business, as is as uh as horrible as it was for the world and for all of us here, and it really was horrible.
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  But the silver lining in this, we learned a hell of a lot.
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  We learned a hell of a lot.
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  And that's for sure.
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  That's when a lot of the health care started to come up and rise on America Out Loud, in fact.
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  A lot of our health shows, a lot of the things happened because we started doing Peter, we started doing a lot of QA's.
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  We started doing uh a lot of real uh real world things to help people out.
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  And the reason is because people were not getting answers from the federal government, they were not getting answers from the government agencies.
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  They there were no QA's happening with those people, and people had more questions than they had answers.
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  And so we started doing these QA's, we started doing other things, and we started bringing on more programming on the network, I noticed.
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  And we really became very health-centric, uh, the network did.
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  And that became our partnerships.
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  And it was shortly after that that we actually even partnered with you guys as a partnership.
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  But I mean, before then, we still were health centric.
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  And we we didn't, you know, a lot of people in my space, Peter, were doing uh were doing the uh the pillows and the golden silver crap and all that stuff, you know.
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  For real.
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  Yeah, that's what they were all doing.
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  Oh, I know.
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  And those people chased me.
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  They chased me.
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  We had, I'm telling you, we had conversation over a period of time with those people, and I it just didn't feel like it was a fit for the network and what we were doing.
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  I just didn't get excited about it.
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  And I and frankly, I didn't want to be like someone that had to open up the trunk of the car to be selling pillows or watches or gold of silver out of the trunk of the car.
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  I said, this is not my thing, man.
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  And so we stayed away from all that.
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  I remember one time I have to tell you about uh, oh, this is about uh it's about maybe six, seven years ago.
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  My guys uh that our tech put up, you know how everybody's got those Google video ads on their sites, you know what I'm talking about with the video ads, and you sell all the stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  So it started putting all those Google video ads up on the site to sell all the stuff, and man, I hated it.
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  I said, This is horrible stuff.
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  They said, Well, but we can make a lot of money with that stuff.
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  I said, but I hate it.
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  And they said, Well, what are you gonna do?
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  You're gonna have to, I said, take it down.
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  I said, I want it off of the network.
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  We're not keeping that garbage on the network.
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  Well, Malcolm, no, no self-respecting media site wants their website to look like the inside of a truck stop bathroom.
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  And all they all many of these they all many look that way.
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  Exactly.
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  I mean, you go there, Peter, and you have to keep clicking the X's to get to the damn story.
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  What's up with that?
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  It's horrible.
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  Horrible.
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  Yeah.
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  I don't, I don't part, I hate those.
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  I I'm rabid about those sites.
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  I can't stand them.
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  And so whenever I go there and that, all that stuff is happening, I'm out of there fast.
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  I don't I don't bother with them.
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  And there's a lot of those.
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  A lot of them are that way.
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  Most of them.
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  Most of them are.
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  I wanted white space.
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  I wanted people to be comfortable, Peter.
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  I wanted them to take their shoes off a little bit.
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  I wanted them to stay around.
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  I don't want to threaten people.
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  And so, anyways, we stayed in the and it was really important to me.
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  And it's funny how this all happened.
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  It was very natural in the health and wellness space.
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  It was very, very unique.
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  So that's just kind of where we were.
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  But the COVID silver lining that you talked about was where we started this thing.
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  And it sort of to materialize in a way that I said, God, I like this a lot.
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  And it felt good.
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  And it was something we were doing legitimately helping people.
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  Now I'm going to tell you something.
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  You don't really know how much the communication we get from our uh from our loyal audience, our listeners, and the people listen to our network, is incredible.
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  And the commentary and the comments we get in that people are just uh the compliments are uh over the moon uh uh of the fact that we help people out in the way that we do, and we answer the questions when they send them in with the doctors and the other expertise on the network, which we're blessed to have.
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  It's the blessing of America Outloud is the network.
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  But anyways, this is not about me, but it kind of fits into the silver line and in COVID, you're talking about, which is very, very unique.
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  And but that's where the wellness company seen this uh this this um I almost want to say this crime.
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  It was a crime of the healthcare system that was that was criminal.
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  I would almost look at it as criminal.
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  And coming from COVID, and you kind of had a rise of saying we need to fill a niche.
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  And I remember when you did that in the wellness one wellness plans for some of that stuff, it was quite quite unique.
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  Um, so we'll come back more about this.
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  Let's jump right into the cancer here now, please, because we can spend another hour on just that.
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  But we'll we'll come back to the innovation.
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  This cancer thing now.
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  All right, when I first seen the report come in from uh from Dr.
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  McCullough, and I we share all their stuff back and forth, and he sent me the report on that in the study, and I said, wow, that is stunning.
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  And I looked further at it, I looked at the different numbers.
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  And you know, cancer is one of those things that moves me.
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  There are certain things that move me in a weird in a weird way, it's hard to explain, but I see people that are around me that have died from it, other people have suffered from it, and it's such a dirty word, and when it comes up, it scares the hell out of people.
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  And it's always something I feel, and I've told this to McCullough many times.
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  I feel like we should be way further ahead as is humanity with cancer.
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  And it's the same way I feel about dementia and Alzheimer's, by the way, is another topic that blows me away that really frightens me for people out there to get that, destroys lives.
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  And there are reasons why, but but anyways, so what was the motivation behind this?
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  Because cancer being what it is, I mean, and I looked at a lot of the stats on this, which I know what they are.
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  It's incredible.
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  And these stats on this thing, 84.4% reported clinical benefits of this ivermectin and mbendazole, this combination of product.
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  Talk to me.
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  Yeah, so it's it's a very personal topic for me as well, Malcolm, as I imagine is for most of the audience.
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  And let's set the stage here.
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  One in three Americans will be diagnosed with cancer in their lifetimes.
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  Like that that's a
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  Astronomical number, everybody should be thinking about it.
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  But in reality, Malcolm, the first time that most people think about cancer is the day they're diagnosed.
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  And what do they do right after that?
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  They go home, they open their laptop, and they spend all night long Googling for cures.
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  It's a really, really bad way to approach diseases.
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  And we've seen people, you know, trusting nameless faceless entities on social media for cancer advice, right?
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  And that's no way to, that's no way to treat your health.
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  Um, about three years ago, my mother-in-law was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer, and it became personal to me.
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  Uh, fortunately, I you know, count myself blessed because I have these amazing doctors, um, Dr.
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  McCullough, Dr.
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  Kelly Victory, who herself is a cancer survivor uh on our bench.
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  So I I talked to them, and and one of the things that they recommended at the time was well, look, you should follow the advice of the oncologist, but as an adjunctive therapy, you should look at things like ivermectin and bendazole.
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  And that was really the inspiration behind this product.
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  Now, we can't market it like that, Malcolm, and that's another sad fact of reality.
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  We've marked this as parasite cleanse.
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  You've talked about it many times on the program.
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  Yeah, um, but the truth of the matter is a lot of people turn to this off label for cancer.
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  A lot of them, and they do it proactively.
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  And we really took this opportunity to this product to say, look, we have to our knowledge the largest base of cancer patients in the country that are using a consistent formula under doctor supervision.
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  They're not ordering veterinary meds off Amazon, they're not, you know, going to India or something and getting a brick of who knows what to self-dose uh these medications.
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  We have a compounded medication that's prescribed by a US doctor and fulfilled by a US pharmacy straight to your door.
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  So we have a tremendous amount of visibility and ability to help these people directly and hands-on.
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  So we felt like in around August of last year that we had a population size of these patients that was large enough that we could actually begin to ask them some questions about how they were doing.
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  In the meantime, my mother-in-law was doing great.
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  She was on four capsules of the ivermectin benazole product per day.
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  She still is to this day.
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  She's great.
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  I think she's off playing pickleball right now or something.
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  Uh, she's living her best life.
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  The cancer has stopped.
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  And that's really what it's about is how do you get more time?
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  That's the first question we should be asking.
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  And then the second question is can we reverse the course of disease?
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  And moreover, if we can do it safely, Malcolm, and this is something that we can go into with you know chemotherapy and radiation, but side effects, brutal.
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  Ivermectin benazole and the studies show it the side effects are mild at worse.
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  And we can just uh get so many benefits out of a such a cheap therapeutic drug.
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  All right, your your mother-in-law, let me go.
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  Is your mother-in-law your son?
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  Yes, yeah, okay.
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  No, it's either your mother or mother-in-law.
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  All right.
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  So uh how long ago did that happen?
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  How what's the period of time that was happening?
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  Uh she was diagnosed three years ago, and she's 58 years old.
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  Wow, young, young.
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  What kind of cancer was it?
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  Uh, colon cancer.
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  Colon cancer, wow.
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  And at what point did she start taking the ivermectin of benzol?
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  Do you know?
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  Uh, we started that about six months into treatment, so about two and a half years ago.
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  And was she having the radiation of the chemo already and all that?
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  Uh, she did chemotherapy.
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  Right.
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  Uh yep, and in addition to the the um recombed.
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  Okay, and um the um the problem with the radiation, and I I Dr.
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  McCullough and I talk about this all the time.
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  I'm not a big fan of radiation and chemotherapy by any stretch of the imagination, because I've seen what it's done to friends of ours.
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  I've seen what it's done to people.
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  Uh, it has ravaged their bodies in ways that you can't even recognize, and it has actually in another case just recently on a friend.
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  Uh listen to this, and and you can respond to this.
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  I wonder what you say to this.
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  It got to a point.
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  This person had a very rare case of lipidemia.
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  It it they should very heavy dose radiation chemo.
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  And then it got to the point where other things were happening that were very weird with her body.
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  And the doctor said the doctor said to my friends said, Well, it cured the cancer.
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  The cancer's not well, not cured, but it the cancer's not there anymore, is what they said.
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  We don't see the cancer anymore, but it destroyed her organs of her body.
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  I mean, destroyed her lungs were done, and her body was ravaged from this heavy dose of right, so it killed her.
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  So, how does that make sense to you?
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  How does that make sense?
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  Well, you know, a lot of these drugs, Malcolm, are blunt force tools, right?
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  I mean, it's like using you know, napalm back in Vietnam.
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  You're not striking just one target, you're just paving the jungle.
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  And that's and that's really the problem, Malcolm.
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  And if we go back to first principles here, yeah, how does our body deal with cancer?
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  And the answer is the immune system.
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  It's our immune system's job to clean up cancer, and it does it every day.
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  Right now, as we speak, and as uh for every person listening on the other side, you have a cancer cell in your body.
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  I do, you do, everybody does.
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  But our immune system keeps it in check.
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  The immune system takes out the garbage, so to speak.
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  Okay, uh, it's when the immune system is either too weak to fight against cancer cells or unable to recognize cancer cells that you get tumor growth, and that's when you have a problem.
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  But I'm of the opinion that you want to avoid doing things that are gonna weaken your immune system.
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  And a lot of these cancer therapies, yes, they can kill the cancer, but they'll also kill your immune system.
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  So you're not gonna be able to respond very well the next time a cancer cell appears in your body.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  You're talking my language.
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  I mean, the immune system is something I talk about all the time.
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  I tell listeners we it's it's the key to life.
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  If you have a healthy immune system, you got it, you got it going.
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  And there are things I do in my own life now, uh to ensure that healthy immune system because it is a lifestyle, Peter.
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  It is a lifestyle.
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  I mean, you've got to be able to find that right balance and lifestyle, which again is something we talk about on here all the time.
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  But but there's some all right.
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  So the numbers of this, this was an extensive study um that you did with real-world applications here.
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  And as you say, yeah, now I get the I get the attraction of why you did this because you already had a lot of people uh uh you would assume benefiting from this.
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  And so you wanted to put, I guess, uh, how do I better way to say it, maybe your money where your mouth was to be able to put the results where it mattered?
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  Is that correct?
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  Yeah, that's a great way to say it.
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  Yeah, right.
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  And so you dove into it, and so give us an idea of the study itself, uh, like how how many uh the numbers are uh shocking here, really.
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  We're talking and we're talking different level.
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  What kinds of cancers?
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  There were multiple cancers, the numbers were interesting.
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  Tell me.
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  Yeah, so um we launched the study last August.
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  Uh we had about 200, a little more than 200 respondees to that that first call for um uh response.
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  Uh we asked them many, many questions about diet, lifestyle, exercise, and the type of cancer, the stage of cancer, uh, what treatments they were going through, if any.
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  Uh, so we we really got a very comprehensive look at these patients' lives.
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  Um, the most you know, prolific uh or common cancer, I should say in the study was prostate cancer at almost 30% of uh respondees, breast cancer was uh number two at about 19%, lung was number three at about uh eight percent, followed by colon.
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  Um, so we had a really wide kind of cross-section of types of of cancers, and you know, we knew these people were were using um the drug.
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  And one question that you might ask Malcolm is like, well, you didn't have a control group.
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  It's like, well, actually, we kind of did because in cancer treatment, the control is people on the conventional therapy, the control is not you know, people that have cancer that are doing nothing, right?
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  So we really got to see the benefits on top of using it as a conventional uh or as an adjunct to conventional therapy, which is important because when we have our doctors talk to these patients, again, we're never telling anybody to abandon the advice of the doctor, right?
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  We're pointing to previous studies that have shown that things like ivermectomy benazol actually enhance the effects of conventional treatments, if not uh work independently on their own.
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  So that's really what we were trying to understand.
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  So, fast forward uh this uh winter uh in uh February and March, we followed up these people.
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  We had uh a response rate of over 60 percent.
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  Uh, to put that in context, that's an extremely high response rate for an observational study.
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  You know, normally when you do any sort of study like this, you're lucky to get you know 40 percent of people to respond as well.
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  Well, what do you trip that first?
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  What do you attribute that to?
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  Do you high rate?
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  Uh well, hustle, frankly.
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  Um, we sent out a lot of email uh when our customer service team didn't have uh someone to pick up the phone that called them, they were reaching out to try to follow up with these people directly.
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  So we really really wanted to hear their stories and collect their stories.
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  And look, the stories are remarkable, Malcolm.
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  We can, you know, you can go some time and you know, maybe show with Dr.
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  McCullough some of the stories that people have um openly posted on um the product page on the website about how this product has treated their cancer.
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  But um, you know, when it pertains to this study, you're right.
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  The headline benefit 84.4% clinical benefit ratio.
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  What does that mean?
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  So we really looked at through uh four top line things when we're looking at cancer, right?
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  We're looking at did the cancer progress or get worse, right?
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  Was it stable?
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  Did it regress and get better?
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  Or was
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  There no current evidence of disease, right?
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  So the clinical benefit ratio, 84.4% is the total of either the cancer staying stable, the cancer regressing, getting smaller, or no current evidence of disease.
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  So that's a tremendous response, Malcolm.
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  I mean, that's gonna give a lot of the traditional uh therapies a really good run for their money.
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  Not to mention that ivory from benozol is less than one percent the cost of chemotherapy.
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  It's remarkable.
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  But moreover, almost one in two people actually showed an improvement in their cancer.
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  So 32.8%, no evidence of disease.
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  That's that's that's incredible.
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  It's stuff exactly.
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  It's incredible.
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  And another 50%.
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  Is your mother-in-law one of those?
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  Hold on, is your mother-in-law one of those?
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  You would put it she's not no evidence of disease, but she is she's in regression, which is which is amazing.
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  So she's in the next group that 15.6% that had uh a regression.
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  So almost one in two people who use this product, uh you know, showed that they actually improved the disease state, got better, uh, not just stable, but better.
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  And really, I mean, with with the population size like this, I think the next largest study of people in the sense looked at three patients, and it was just three success stories as kind of like a case study.
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  You know, we showed the whole data, good, bad, or otherwise.
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  And I think that's also really important.
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  It's not a silver bullet, Malcolm, and I'm not saying it is, but we're saying that if you have cancer, there's almost no downside, in our opinion, from using a uh product like this in conjunction with uh your oncologist recommended treatment, it could save your life.
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  I wonder how many or if any of these people had um had um continued the uh chemotherapy and/or radiation or how many had got off of it.
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  Do we know we you don't know any?
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  Do you know any of that?
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  Well, we we do, yeah, and you can dig into the study for those exact um specifics.
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  Most did most continued their oncologists' treatment as well as used uh ivermectamabendosol.
• 22:07
  And look, I I can't speak on behalf of any one single patient.
• 22:10
  Like I said, we have some incredible stories online, at least talking to my mother-in-law oncologist.
• 22:15
  He fortunately is very open-minded when it comes to this sort of stuff.
• 22:19
  Uh, he said her progress is remarkable.
• 22:22
  He thought she'd be dead within a year, and here she is, still living her life, you know, four years later, uh, going out and uh and uh and you know with a smile on her face, right?
• 22:33
  Right.
• 22:33
  Well, what's really cool about this, Peter, is you took it to the next level.
• 22:37
  I mean, you took the whole thing to the next level by taking the initiative to do the study number one, you didn't have to.
• 22:44
  Uh, and you didn't know what the results were really going to be, but you probably had a gut feeling, didn't you?
• 22:48
  I I I had a gut feeling, I had a hope, Malcolm.
• 22:52
  Um, but you know, as as kind of the company grows here, and you know, as you pointed out, you know, we're we're four years old this year.
• 22:59
  I think one thing that's really important to us is that we start sharing some of these stories and actually putting some scientific backing behind it.
• 23:07
  You know, you've talked say extensively about um the McCullough protocol and spike protein detox.
• 23:13
  Incredibly important topic this day and age.
• 23:16
  Where's the information at?
• 23:17
  Where's the studies?
• 23:18
  Well, we're gonna have that study.
• 23:20
  Uh, we're looking at kind of all of the things that our customers are coming us for, and we want to hear their feedback and see how it's helped improve their lives because we want to really contribute to the actual medical literature and get further discussion.
• 23:33
  Yeah, we're very upfront in our study that you know, this isn't a randomized controlled trial.
• 23:39
  This isn't an FDA approved IRB study.
• 23:41
  This is an observational study that we conducted in our population.
• 23:44
  But our hope is that our results cause the powers that be to take this topic seriously enough, Malcolm, yeah, that they will invest the millions of dollars that it takes to do a serious randomized control trial on these medications, and that's what it deserves.
• 24:00
  Right.
• 24:00
  And that and that's exactly what uh McCullough and I had talked about uh this past week, in fact, that that should happen.
• 24:05
  And we wondered if this study would get their attention, which is why we actually worded the show we did on America All Loud Pulse, what we did stuns the cancer world because uh the numbers spoke for themselves, you know, with everything that was going on.
• 24:19
  So it was remarkable.
• 24:21
  Um, quite something here.
• 24:22
  You know, um this is uh I like the way you also say, you know, you still communicate with your practitioners, your doctors, you have to you have to stay.
• 24:34
  I mean, and this is it.
• 24:35
  I mean, you've got to have that personal relationship with your own doctor, your own group, what have you.
• 24:39
  I mean, we this is not a one-size fits all kind of thing here.
• 24:42
  Uh, there's a lot of personal uh touches in this thing, but when you're faced with something like cancer, I mean, you gotta like pull out all the stops.
• 24:51
  I mean, you're gonna do everything you can do to be well to get back to the basis.
• 24:57
  I mean, you know, I don't know, you know, Peter, if you're lucky enough to get I don't I don't know if you're lucky enough to live this life and get through this life without having cancer impact you in some way or heart.
• 25:11
  I don't even that's gotta be like a rare thing.
• 25:14
  That's gotta be like like uh like really rare.
• 25:19
  I mean, those two, and then Malcolm statistically, all of us will either have to face it ourselves or one of our loved ones will.
• 25:26
  Okay, and I really do it as our responsibility to get this information out so that when you get that news, yeah, you know what to do.
• 25:35
  You can act.
• 25:36
  And if you don't get one of those, you'll probably end up with dementia and Alzheimer's and not know what the hell day it is anyway.
• 25:42
  So I mean, come on, you know, it's ridiculous, you know.
• 25:44
  I mean, the human body is is is uh is a marvel, it's a marvel.
• 25:49
  Uh and I I call it a miracle, and and I always say that to people, it's the miracle of life.
• 25:54
  And when people question her, they say, well, you know, I don't know if there's a God or I don't know if there's this that I said, come on, you gotta be joking me, right?
• 26:00
  I mean, we're sitting on this blue marble uh in in the in the marbles of the universe, and there's some mag just magnificent universe.
• 26:08
  We have brains, we have body parts that move like this.
• 26:12
  You know, we're like a walking miracle, and you want to question what?
• 26:16
  I mean, we're all miracles, and the fact that we're here breathing and living on this blue marble uh and in the universe of universes, as I say all the time, I think that is is a credit to some higher power for sure.
• 26:28
  I have to tell you, brother.
• 26:29
  So it's amazing.
• 26:31
  Yeah, it's amazing.
• 26:32
  Um, so one of the things now uh you know, is um that I I tell that I've been most impressed with, uh, frankly, Peter, uh, with uh the wellness company that I really do see now.
• 26:46
  You you I never see that you rest on your laurels.
• 26:48
  I don't I don't see that uh ever.
• 26:51
  Uh you're always pushing the boundaries, and then and I have to say that's what my brother does as well.
• 26:55
  Uh Dr.
• 26:56
  Peter McCullough, my dear friend.
• 26:58
  Uh he never rests on his laurel ever.
• 27:00
  Just when we got through some of the COVID stuff and the Q and A's and stuff, he tried to come up with the answer to help people fix the long COVID and the the shock from COVID with the the protein, the three in one, the spike protein, you know, the um the that that product was incredible, and that that kind of shook everything up a little bit, you know.
• 27:18
  And and that's kind of where, and as I guess he's for his role with you guys, what chief scientific officer, I think, with a medical board, you've created this very revolutionary medical board as well, with with very world-renowned names.
• 27:30
  And by the way, for folks who are listening here, I've never spoke to her yet, but I do have Dr.
• 27:34
  Kelly Victory coming on this broadcast uh in about a week, week and a half, something like that.
• 27:40
  And I'm very anxious to talk to her, very anxious about uh a couple of things.
• 27:45
  And uh one is her own her own story with cancer and what she went through, but it's gonna be a great conversation.
• 27:51
  I know that.
• 27:51
  And she seems like Kelly is remarkable, Malcolm, and and I think to your point about TWC, and and thank you.
• 27:59
  But it hasn't been easy.
• 28:01
  You know, there's believe it or not, not a lot of media outlets were necessarily on our side in the early days, and even to this day.
• 28:08
  This study, in fact, Malcolm, yeah, when we posted it for peer review, we were denied.
• 28:14
  We were denied, and we were denied for can you guess political reasons?
• 28:20
  And I expect, you know, the news that we have to say about health and wellness, it's not popular with a lot of the powers that be.
• 28:27
  Yeah, especially when you're looking at something like the chemo industry, which is uh, which is one of the only industries, Malcolm, that believe it or not, is uh book and bill by CMS.
• 28:38
  So doctors actually compensated by the government for prescribing chemotherapy drugs.
• 28:44
  Might we say somebody making business, might we say it's uh it's a it's a treasure trove of money correct, correct?
• 28:50
  So there is no incentive for anyone in the system to look at this humble drug that is so inexpensive and so mild on the system as a cure because that's not where the money is in cancer treatment.
• 29:05
  And when you ask, I think in the beginning, why has there not been more progress in cancer?
• 29:09
  That's why, Malcolm, it's because there's not money in progress for cancer.
• 29:13
  There's just money in these in these products that are health and wellness is you're right.
• 29:17
  You know, you're 100% right, you're right over target, and everybody knows that.
• 29:20
  I mean, we know because we get screwed every day or every week, every month by the healthcare industry.
• 29:25
  Come on, let's let's be real.
• 29:27
  I mean, and you know, and they screw all the health insurance companies and the health insurance screw everybody else, and then you get your bill in it, and everybody's screwing everybody, and then really truly, and then you you know, people say, and they think it's not our business to even look at your hospital bill.
• 29:41
  Like, I don't pay it.
• 29:42
  The insurance company pays you, who cares?
• 29:44
  Well, who do you think's paying for all that stuff, man?
• 29:46
  Yeah, we all should be examining that hospital bill and doing a line item veto, you know.
• 29:53
  We could do a whole show, Malcolm, about how screwed up the medical industry is that my favorite analogy, right?
• 30:00
  You know, imagine if you needed to change the windshield wiper blades on your car and you had to go through car insurance.
• 30:05
  Well, that's health insurance, right?
• 30:08
  You know, you have the most minor thing, and suddenly you're in the ER, and your insurance company's getting rung up with a three thousand dollar bill, and next year your premium goes up.
• 30:17
  Yeah.
• 30:17
  We're just it's so so warped.
• 30:20
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 30:20
  All right.
• 30:21
  All right.
• 30:22
  So one of the things I've seen uh is uh that I brag about a fair amount because uh I see it, it's been real to me.
• 30:31
  Uh and is that in this space of of health and wellness, health and products and innovation.
• 30:38
  There are very few who put their money with their mouth is number one.
• 30:42
  Two, the kind of products that I see uh the wellness company coming out with, it's always a head turner.
• 30:50
  And I I take what I'm saying is they put together, I I believe some of the most innovative products, just like this one here, by combining, you know, and some of these products I've talked about on air many times.
• 31:02
  Uh it's amazing how you can um repurpose some of these meds, Peter, and the repurpose of vibromectin is huge, even though the media made it a clown show all the way as they've done everything else.
• 31:13
  Uh huge.
• 31:15
  Um, the repurposing of these meds, and it really does uh shock you when you see what is being done with some of these medications and stuff.
• 31:24
  It's it's wild, though the effect on the human body, actually.
• 31:27
  But I see the way you take things and you combine them to make it more powerful, more potent, more interesting.
• 31:35
  Uh and and more more uh it opens up eyes in a way.
• 31:38
  So it's it's more marketable and it's like this, this, and this.
• 31:41
  And again, you have to be careful with the claims you make.
• 31:43
  There's no doubt about it because the FDA will come on you like a like a horse.
• 31:47
  Um, they'll stamp you out in a hot second here, as they've done to many that way.
• 31:51
  That's how it operates here.
• 31:52
  Uh, but um, but instead of us spending money as a collective as people that really care and passionately want to help people, that would be a better, better shot to do that than to uh fight against each other, as always happens.
• 32:04
  And the private sector, a lot of these good stuff uh comes from the private sector, Peter.
• 32:09
  It doesn't come from public, it comes from the private sector.
• 32:11
  That's where all this and that's what you guys are all about, right there.
• 32:14
  So, right?
• 32:15
  Absolutely, absolutely, yeah.
• 32:16
  And that's that's show me the last time the government has innovated on anything.
• 32:21
  Your tax bill.
• 32:23
  Right, exactly.
• 32:24
  Creative ways to tax me.
• 32:26
  But you you're absolutely right, Malcolm.
• 32:27
  And you know, I think that um personally, and I I bet you would say the same thing.
• 32:33
  Uh, I wouldn't spend every last penny in my bank account if I knew I can get five good more years with my family, right?
• 32:41
  But fortunately, I don't think it costs that much money.
• 32:44
  And that's kind of what we're trying to do with the wellness company.
• 32:46
  And to your point, you know, we we look at all these products that they have objective benefits.
• 32:51
  You see it every day.
• 32:52
  Yeah, um, you know, ultimate spike detox is a great example.
• 32:56
  But if you were to take all those different components, yeah, you'd be having a bowl fill of pill full of pills every morning, right?
• 33:02
  So we kind of look and we do the research, we figure out what's the best combination that we can fit into a capsule to make it easy for people.
• 33:09
  And we take that approach with everything we do.
• 33:11
  We want the best ingredients that have the most clinical efficacy that we can point to in scientific literature, and we want to give it to you in the easiest form factor we can.
• 33:21
  Yeah, you're doing some incredible stuff, man.
• 33:23
  Uh, really, really incredible stuff.
• 33:25
  And this innovation.
• 33:27
  What I have told listeners many, many times on here, and and I don't know if you're aware of it or you are or not.
• 33:32
  I don't know, is that in my words again?
• 33:36
  I find the things and the products that the wellness company comes out with, they are one of the uh I think uh a lead-in uh enterprise of innovation in this space of health and wellness.
• 33:49
  Uh, I think the edge that this company has innovation, the innovative products that you're putting forth are not just the run of the mill, Peter.
• 34:00
  I don't see that at all.
• 34:02
  Uh I see them very unique in how you're combining things and going the extra mile, and then doing studies like this cancer thing and really putting proven things and saying, you know, putting your money where your mouth is, and because you can't make that stuff up, facts are facts, data doesn't lie.
• 34:16
  Uh it is what it is, right there in black and white.
• 34:19
  And you give the whole story as you say.
• 34:20
  And I seen that.
• 34:21
  I seen the whole story.
• 34:22
  You say this is who it didn't impact, this is who it did impact, and this is why it did impact them.
• 34:26
  And these are the cancers that did impact.
• 34:28
  I mean, it's all there, and it was perfect.
• 34:30
  It's beautiful.
• 34:32
  But I think that innovative approach is what I see that you're doing that I think is really made this meteoric rise, in my words again, uh, that I see here with why in just a few short years you've done this in this space and getting people's attention in ways that they are um it's hard to build a brand like that that is very trusting in short, or being a brand expert.
• 34:55
  That's what I did all my life before America Out Loud and before the the shows and programs I do here.
• 35:01
  I worked in corporate boardrooms and developed major brands.
• 35:04
  And um, that's why I'm such a freak of nature myself is as they're like I was a brand builder, and uh so and that's what I did.
• 35:14
  I I was never a follower in my life.
• 35:17
  I was a leader, and uh sometimes to the demise of the moment, but I was I was the guy who would tell you the truth.
• 35:25
  We called no regrets.
• 35:26
  I was called it the out loud truth, and uh that's what I called it, the out loud truth.
• 35:31
  And they always knew if they wanted to have me in a committee meeting or a board meeting that they were going to get the out loud truth.
• 35:36
  I have stories behind that I can share you with the um CEOs of major companies, uh, including uh including the CEO of Lockheed Martin and others, I mean major enterprises that I was in those board meetings with, and it's quite fascinating, some of the conversations.
• 35:50
  But I was the cat who would uh give you that truth, anyways, not enough of that.
• 35:54
  But uh, let me just uh so with Project Out Loud, uh, I want to take just a moment and uh two things I want to tell um our uh viewers and listeners right now in this place, both on talk radio plays on video, and what's really cool happened in the video podcast landscape, by the way, everybody, is that uh Apple has a whole new interface coming out now in the next uh few weeks that we're right on top of.
• 36:17
  And uh you're gonna be able to uh they're gonna give uh certainly give Spotify a big run for their money, but and uh it's it's gonna be very, very unique.
• 36:27
  So that's where you're gonna be able to find this program uh is gonna be uh the influences are gonna be through Apple and through Spotify, uh, more than uh the YouTube's and stuff.
• 36:38
  I don't, I'm not a fan of YouTube.
• 36:40
  I find them uh they're part of the they're a communist network, um, as well as Google is and the rest of them, they're all communist, and uh the way they censor and shadow ban everything else.
• 36:50
  I I just don't have any respect for them.
• 36:52
  Uh I I don't put my stuff on those networks anymore.
• 36:55
  And I just don't want it.
• 36:56
  And so that's the way it is.
• 36:57
  Um, and people say to me, Oh, you've got to be on there, you've got to be on the.
• 37:00
  I said, No, I don't want to be on there.
• 37:02
  So I don't care what you tell me.
• 37:03
  So, well, you really have to be on there.
• 37:05
  Get your shorts on there and everything.
• 37:06
  And I would, and I then I say some colorful things back I can't repeat here.
• 37:11
  Um, but I tell them what I'm not doing.
• 37:14
  So, anyways, it is what it is, people.
• 37:16
  Screw me once, right?
• 37:18
  What is the how do they say that again?
• 37:19
  Shame on you, is it?
• 37:20
  Screw it.
• 37:21
  Shame on you on me.
• 37:23
  Right, it's the third time we're all scar, however, that's name was it's like forget about it.
• 37:29
  Oh, anyways, so um one of the things we did here, uh, so we don't break for pause or commercials or any of that stuff here.
• 37:36
  I go straight through uh Project Out Loud.
• 37:38
  That's why this is a unique experiment, the program.
• 37:40
  And I want to tell you right now, America Out Loud.shop is something we we created uh early on in the in the program here for America Out Loud, and it was really the relationship we had with our listeners and our our viewers and and our audience, which was incredible people, and we see your communications and your responses, and we and we love you all back as well.
• 37:59
  Uh it's uh tremendous.
• 38:01
  And and I want to share with you that that shop, we we've done our very best to negotiate best pricing in there, best practices, best pricing.
• 38:09
  And all of the products and the various things we have in there, there are studies and research associated with these things.
• 38:14
  These are not fly by night uh situations here.
• 38:17
  We talk to these companies for some time and make sure everything is where it is to really have it uh to be what it's got to be.
• 38:24
  So, anyways, I'm really proud of the work we've done.
• 38:27
  And you use code out loud, and you'll get the discount.
• 38:30
  And even on the things we're talking about today, and I don't like to say too much about that because I don't like to do infomercials and advertorials.
• 38:37
  That's not what this is.
• 38:38
  This is educational informative, so I don't want to mix the two and get hokey pokey on you all.
• 38:43
  But um, use code out loud on any any of the products in the shop, and many of the things we talk about today on the broadcast will be there by coincidence, but we'll have plenty of other folks on, we which we have nothing to do with.
• 38:54
  So this is not anything more than that about innovation and and bringing a real story to people of what what happens and things I know from the inside backwards is a beautiful thing to report on for sure.
• 39:05
  Um, so uh so do that.
• 39:07
  And and some of the other ones besides, and and you'll see the wellness company in there for sure.
• 39:11
  They're a great partner partner with us, and we we love them.
• 39:14
  I love the work they're doing, but also see the new product, the sprouting company with the sprouts, Octa McCullough and I have the sprouts grown with our wives, and I got we got to get some to Galilee here, and we haven't grown on our countertop, no dirt, no nothing, but the don't get my wife started, Malcolm.
• 39:28
  We love them, we love them.
• 39:29
  We all love it, and they grow in a glass thing, and they're amazing and they're healthy and they're fresh.
• 39:35
  But knowing you, if I uh if I introduce them to Galilee, he'll want to buy the company, I'm sure.
• 39:40
  But anyways they'll say, We'll bring them in here.
• 39:44
  But anyways, sprouts are very, very unique, and you can get a discount on those using the code out loud.
• 39:49
  And the other one is the beer bar.
• 39:51
  Love the beer bar.
• 39:52
  It's uh it's not the gooey, crappy processed garbage food you buy at the supermarket.
• 39:57
  We hate that stuff.
• 39:58
  That's what's causing cancer.
• 40:00
  That's what's causing problems.
• 40:01
  This stuff has six natural ingredients.
• 40:03
  It is fresh as anything.
• 40:04
  It'll break apart.
• 40:05
  Tastes great.
• 40:06
  It even tastes great.
• 40:07
  You can eat a morning, night, moon, whatever.
• 40:10
  Even tastes great with a glass of wine, by the way.
• 40:13
  I'm not supposed to say that, but it is true.
• 40:15
  I've had it for happy hour.
• 40:16
  It's very, very good.
• 40:17
  And I do have a glass of wine, by the way.
• 40:19
  Um, so uh that's that.
• 40:22
  All right.
• 40:23
  Real quick, I want to jump into innovation here, but real quick, we're gonna be in Nashville, July 2nd, 3rd, and 4th.
• 40:29
  Uh for America Rot Laud 2510 Nashville.
• 40:33
  And by the way, uh, our our great nation uh turns 250 years old.
• 40:38
  If you didn't know that, our Sammy Quincentennial, that's secrets out of the bag now.
• 40:42
  And America out loud turns uh an amazing 10 years old.
• 40:46
  Uh we are incredible world, which is incredible.
• 40:49
  It really is, Peter.
• 40:50
  And so 250 10 and our terrific partner with the wellness company is uh is on board with that and will be there in grand glory.
• 40:58
  And we're gonna have a lot of fun.
• 41:00
  It's gonna be really quite special.
• 41:01
  Entertainment education.
• 41:02
  It's gonna be three days of spectacular things happening.
• 41:05
  Nothing you've ever seen before in our style, the way we do things, uh, with class and style and dignity.
• 41:11
  Uh, and it'd be great to give you all embrace you and love you and just come out and join us there in Nashville.
• 41:16
  Uh, you can go to uh America 250 Nashville.com or just go to the menu at America Rotoloud.news, click Nashville, and you'll go right in and see all the great things we got going on.
• 41:27
  It's going to be very, very special.
• 41:28
  So join us out there as well.
• 41:30
  Looking forward to that.
• 41:31
  And looking forward to uh meeting you, Mr.
• 41:33
  Galilee in person there.
• 41:34
  We've done we've done this plenty of times, but not in person.
• 41:37
  And uh suspect you'll give me a hug and buy me a drink, hopefully.
• 41:40
  Not necessarily in that order, but so something like that.
• 41:45
  All right.
• 41:46
  So we talked about the meter meteoric rise.
• 41:48
  We're joined here with um CEO, Peter Gillily uh with the wellness company, who I'm proud to be part of and to call a friend and somebody who has been on the edge of doing all these things that are, I think are uh changing the rules, changing the rules, creating new paths, uh new ideas, new concepts.
• 42:07
  Uh, it's really about innovation in in this space, which God knows we need it.
• 42:12
  Because that was the silver line in that Peter spoke about early on that was coming from a lot of the COVID bad stuff that happened through COVID, which was unbelievable.
• 42:20
  Let's talk about the peptides here.
• 42:22
  The rise of peptides, what's behind it?
• 42:25
  And uh, so I looked this up a little bit here, and uh uh there's peptides and proteins, uh, and all part of that immune system you talked about here for human health.
• 42:36
  So these uh they both use these chemicals, amino acids.
• 42:40
  I guess it's the way it works.
• 42:41
  And of course, you can speak a lot more elegantly about this than I can, Peter.
• 42:45
  But the products that this are going in are eye-opening.
• 42:47
  And why are peptides?
• 42:48
  Why are people so interested in this?
• 42:50
  What are they doing?
• 42:51
  Where's this coming from?
• 42:53
  Yeah, it's an interesting question, Malcolm.
• 42:55
  That I think um has you know really exploded over the past couple months, and I think it's gonna be kind of a household topic here in the next few years.
• 43:05
  Where to start?
• 43:06
  So amino acids are the basic biological building block.
• 43:12
  Um, they spring together to form proteins.
• 43:14
  Everyone knows what protein is.
• 43:16
  Um, peptides are narrowly defined as a chain of up to 50 amino acids.
• 43:23
  And in your body, these uh short amino acid chains called peptides, serve as signaling molecules.
• 43:30
  They signal your body to do something or promote something.
• 43:34
  Um people always say, Well, what's a peptide?
• 43:37
  Well, would I know one?
• 43:38
  Yes, there's there's a lot of peptides that have you know been around for a long time.
• 43:44
  Insulin, it's a peptide.
• 43:46
  Uh, it stimulates your blood sugar.
• 43:49
  Um collagen, another one that you know uh you know, people put on their skinner take every day.
• 43:55
  It's a peptide.
• 43:56
  Um, so there's a number of these things, semaglutide, you know, the injection that that helps uh stimulate uh the hormone that creates the feeling of fullness.
• 44:06
  So you have a lesser appetite.
• 44:08
  So peptides really can be um you know designed to kind of serve all these different functions.
• 44:15
  There's almost I think three to four hundred peptides that are known today, and they just they help regulate different processes in your body from uh repair and uh tissue regrowth to appetite to blood sugar to um you know many functions of the skin, which is why they're very popular in skincare products as well.
• 44:34
  Yeah, now in my research and stuff, I think it was I looked at quite a few different places.
• 44:38
  I like to balance information by looking at various sites, various things, and uh uh even some of the things on NA NIH and other places, but also some of the others in the field in North Side Hospital, Atlanta, Georgia says they and I want you to speak about this, they help fight disease in here we go, the immune system, boost brain function, right?
• 44:58
  Reduce inflammation, inflammation's a killer, uh, aid digestion and improve skin health.
• 45:04
  Sign me up for that.
• 45:05
  That's a hell of a list right there.
• 45:07
  Tell me about that, please.
• 45:08
  Wow, you know, I I hate to call anything American drug, Malcolm, but it's I think one of the well, it's a group of drugs, and I think why why peptides are so attractive to people is is fairly simple.
• 45:21
  It's because uh it's not accurate to consider peptides natural because most of them are not, they're derived from larger sequences within the body.
• 45:30
  One of the most popular peptides really rolls off the tongue, Malcolm, BPC 157.
• 45:36
  Um, that is a peptide that aids in gut health and tissue repair.
• 45:41
  So it's very popular among athletes that maybe have uh joint pain to get a BPC injection into the joint.
• 45:48
  Uh it also helps with gut repair.
• 45:50
  Um, but these peptides are usually derived from some longer sequence of amino acids of protein in the body.
• 45:59
  And people like peptides because it's thought that unlike you know, fully synthetic drugs, peptides are analogs, they mimic, they are chemically similar to what our body already is naturally producing, and therefore, theoretically, there are maybe safer, maybe lower risk, uh, and maybe more effective.
• 46:23
  And I think that's why there's so much excitement about peptides, and we've already seen it explode in the weight loss sector here because we found peptides to just be so effective at helping people regulate appetite.
• 46:34
  Right, right.
• 46:35
  Yeah, they're in uh the needle guys, the uh Ozempic and uh the other one, the bad ones.
• 46:40
  People don't like a lot of that stuff, though.
• 46:42
  We we go via Gov is it?
• 46:43
  They'll go, yeah.
• 46:45
  Uh Ozempic, there that's um there's a peptide drugs in there and stuff too, but it's you gotta do the needle and all that stuff here.
• 46:52
  Um, the um uh let's see here.
• 46:56
  Yeah, there's a lot of different things they do or don't do now.
• 46:59
  When you are doing products like smile and thoroughblue, and I didn't even know this anti-Asian face serum.
• 47:06
  I don't know anything about that, but I'm always interested because we all want to look younger, me too, by the way, uh, for sure.
• 47:12
  Um absolutely, and uh, I'm not too proud to say that.
• 47:16
  Um, happy to use whatever it is that'll keep me look young.
• 47:18
  But my wife keeps saying, 'You look great, you look great, stop it!' But again, she knows that Carly Simon wrote that song about me, you're so vain.
• 47:25
  So I talked.
• 47:28
  So I was like, No, I gotta stay young, D.
• 47:30
  I'm be some old geezer.
• 47:32
  Um, but um uh so these products here all have am I correct to say and roots as well.
• 47:38
  The the here thing, these all have peptide in them.
• 47:41
  Is that correct?
• 47:42
  Yeah, they all contain peptides.
• 47:43
  So peptides are an interesting class of molecules.
• 47:46
  Let me let me talk about that quickly.
• 47:48
  So you mentioned injections, right?
• 47:50
  And I think a lot of people, when they hear the word peptide, they immediately associate something that you inject.
• 47:56
  Um, this is the rabbit hole that we again could spend another hour on.
• 48:00
  Uh, but at a high level, uh, the wellness company, we don't encourage subcutaneous injection roots as the thing people should look at first when it comes to medication.
• 48:11
  Number one, a lot of these products, especially the compounded ones, require the user to actually draw their own syringe.
• 48:18
  And that's an operation that's just prone to problems, right?
• 48:22
  Especially if you are aren't paying attention or you're moving too quickly, you take the wrong amount.
• 48:27
  Guess what?
• 48:28
  You're you're not gonna feel very good.
• 48:29
  Uh, but secondly, um, injecting anything into your body, Malcolm bypasses the body's natural processing systems for uh uh molecules, right?
• 48:40
  There's a very big difference between eating or breathing something when something is passing through uh the different defense systems of the body versus injecting it straight into the bloodstream.
• 48:50
  And moreover, when you're injecting something straight in the bloodstream, you're getting a massive spike in active um uh pharmaceuticals in your bloodstream all at once.
• 49:01
  I would much rather see people do a lower dose but daily oral solution for peptides or topical solution, right?
• 49:08
  Where your body can absorb it slower, it's easier on your on your systems, right?
• 49:13
  And I think that's really in my opinion, the key to sustainable and safe peptide use.
• 49:19
  Now, the FDA um is totally fine with topical peptides, they're very common, and you mentioned a bunch of products there like smile roots, our face here that all use topical peptides that aid in things like hair regrowth, uh skin tightening, things that you know, obviously a large portion of us as we age are very interested in having.
• 49:41
  Um they're looking here, probably in the next uh four to eight weeks.
• 49:47
  Uh Secretary Kennedy has announced that the FDA is going to uh put 14 popular peptides back into uh compounding pharmacies portfolios ability to create products for.
• 50:00
  Customers.
• 50:00
  So that's going to be a very interesting development.
• 50:02
  That's a new news.
• 50:03
  That's big news.
• 50:04
  That's that's big news.
• 50:05
  That's very big news.
• 50:06
  Yep.
• 50:07
  And the reason for that is is pretty simple.
• 50:10
  People are going to be accessing these medications, whether or not the FDA allows it, right?
• 50:15
  It's kind of like you know, the old war on drugs.
• 50:17
  Like you can you can declare it illegal, but people are gonna still try to seek it out, right?
• 50:22
  So with peptide, the FDA said, look, we would rather people get their supplies with doctor supervision and with uh proper manufacturing versus buying some unknown substance from China that you don't know, God knows what is inside, and trying to cook up your own product.
• 50:40
  So I think it's gonna be a real uh revolution in peptide therapies here over the next couple years.
• 50:46
  Okay, the um the new weight thing they did terzepatide, correct?
• 50:51
  Tersepatite.
• 50:52
  So I assume I I don't even the ingredients on that.
• 50:55
  Does that have that must have some uh terzepatite is a peptide?
• 50:59
  Yep.
• 50:59
  So again, this is a great example of a peptide Malcolm that's commonly injected.
• 51:04
  Uh, I think the auto injector name is Manjaro.
• 51:07
  You might have seen a commercial on TV for that.
• 51:10
  Um, so yeah, this is an oral format of that, right?
• 51:13
  So it dissolves sublingually in your mouth.
• 51:15
  We also have it in uh chewing gum format, right?
• 51:18
  For episodic cravings.
• 51:20
  Is that where you use one with the other, or like if you just chew the gum, that doesn't do it on its own, does it?
• 51:25
  Oh, it definitely helps.
• 51:27
  Yeah, we we give you options here, and and again, this goes back to my principle I said a few moments ago, where we really believe that oral daily use of peptides is going to be a much more sustainable and effective over the long run way to ingest peptides.
• 51:43
  And if I could, Malcolm, just one note on weight loss because I think this is really important.
• 51:47
  Yeah, um, everybody kind of views all of these weight loss peptides as silver bullets, right?
• 51:53
  I just take the peptide and I shrink, right?
• 51:56
  Um, yes and no.
• 51:58
  So, you know, everyone is also worried about Ozempic face and that kind of gaunt look that people acquire after being on some of these drugs.
• 52:07
  So I I personally believe that uh when it comes to you know fighting the war on obesity, and and you know, Lord knows in the United States, we need help.
• 52:17
  Um, that peptides have a very important role to play because you know, Dr.
• 52:21
  McCullough will will testify himself.
• 52:23
  It's physically hard for a lot of people to break out of the rhythm to install uh activity and exercise and diet to do that alone and see results, right?
• 52:35
  Habits are really hard thing to break.
• 52:37
  Peptides really help break out of that um habit because it really kind of makes you more full.
• 52:43
  It just reduces the desire to eat so much.
• 52:46
  But it's very important that if you're gonna be uh evaluating doing a peptide for weight loss, right?
• 52:53
  You keep in mind that look, you need to also be doing other things, changing your lifestyle, changing your diet.
• 53:00
  If you're not doing those things, it doesn't matter how much weight you lose in a short period of time with that peptide, it's not going to be sustainable.
• 53:08
  And you really want to have a sustainable, sustainable process.
• 53:12
  Thank you for saying that.
• 53:13
  Uh, it just shows the honesty behind your thinking because you are spot on, man.
• 53:18
  Uh, there are there's no one thing that's a miracle thing of whatever's gonna change your life.
• 53:23
  You it's a process, and the process of that really is the lifestyle, Peter.
• 53:27
  I believe it's the lifestyle.
• 53:29
  Uh, it's a combination of doing all of these things.
• 53:32
  Um, you know, uh, well over a year ago, I was sick a little bit there, and um, it was just a little bit of a warning for me to get my shit together here, uh, more or less.
• 53:41
  And uh, I started um and and you know, sometimes I get so busy and my life had become out of control a little bit, where I wasn't even leaving the studio, Peter, you know, the walls, you know, and all that.
• 53:51
  And I think I gotta I gotta do so, yeah.
• 53:54
  I gotta get out of these walls and stuff now, you know, and all that.
• 53:57
  And so then uh what happened is um uh I I started to uh now I walk every day.
• 54:02
  I make I make it my my business to walk uh five miles every day.
• 54:06
  And I talk about this listeners know this already uh on my other programs.
• 54:10
  Uh McCullough and I talk about all the time.
• 54:12
  He always asks me what number you're at, what number you're at.
• 54:15
  Well, I may have to right now I may have to five miles more a day for 356.
• 54:20
  I don't know if you can see this year, 356 days.
• 54:23
  Wow, uh 350 if you can see that three, five, six there.
• 54:26
  And um, so in uh just a few more days on one full year, one calendar year, if you will, of doing the uh uh the the walk there.
• 54:35
  So no matter what's going on with my day, whether it's 35 degrees or 95 degrees, whatever, I make a commitment to get out of the walls and breathe, and I leave it behind, and I like it that way, and I like to just decompress.
• 54:52
  You get physical benefits of that, you get mental benefits of that.
• 54:57
  You cannot beat it.
• 54:58
  So that is the best great way to live.
• 55:00
  That's a great best recipe I can give everybody is yeah, it's like I will always do that my whole life now, and I will never people say when will you retire?
• 55:09
  I would never retire in my life ever, ever.
• 55:11
  I never people say retire.
• 55:12
  That's like like that's like the worst word, like murder.
• 55:15
  No, I'm not gonna retire.
• 55:17
  I don't want murder either, because I'm gonna keep going and going until I can't go anymore, whatever that means.
• 55:24
  Retiring is such a bad thing.
• 55:25
  So it is about lifestyle.
• 55:26
  That and that's my message to everybody here.
• 55:28
  It's lifestyle.
• 55:30
  Uh, we got to make decisions on life, what's important.
• 55:32
  If we love this life, and we want the best out of all of it, uh, we got to pull from all these knowledge points, and we've got to we've got to execute these things on our own like that lifestyle, the diet, the food, all of these things, and then we we got the golden, we got the golden ticket at that point forward here.
• 55:48
  I think that's my feelings on it.
• 55:50
  Peter Galoli, you are uh doing some marvelous things.
• 55:53
  Uh, let's do this again.
• 55:55
  Uh, thanks for jumping on here with me, brother.
• 55:56
  You're you're terrific.
• 55:57
  Uh, really, you too, Malcolm, and I really appreciate it.
• 56:00
  All right, friends, that's a wrap here.
• 56:02
  We'll see you back at America Out Loud.news.
• 56:04
  It's time to get involved and get loud, America.