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BONUS: Ohio State Team Arrival - LIVE In Michigan · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the buck Eye Weekly Podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Tony Gerdeman here as always with Tim Moore.
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  Speaker 2: Tom, how's it going, Tony?
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  Speaker 3: I think before we get started we need to thank
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  Speaker 3: our sponsor layers. When it is cold, when it is whinny,
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  Speaker 3: when the real field temperature is around sixteen degrees, layers
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  Speaker 3: will keep you warm. Well, we hope, because the team
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  Speaker 3: doesn't get here for nearly an hour, so we've got
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  Speaker 3: a lot to talk about before we have Ryan Day
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  Speaker 3: and Crewe getting off buses right behind us.
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  Speaker 2: This is not my decision.
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  Speaker 1: I am here if you a protest and Tom, are
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  Speaker 1: you able to read any of.
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  Speaker 3: The yes I am jests Bangler I became a YouTube member,
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  Speaker 3: Thank you Jack very much.
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  Speaker 1: That so, yes, we are here. I've disclosed location the
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  Speaker 1: team hotel team will be arriving. I was told they're
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  Speaker 1: a little ahead of schedule, which will be fantastic for
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  Speaker 1: those of us who are not on a bus or
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  Speaker 1: sitting in a car waiting for so bus to arrive.
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  Speaker 3: I enjoyed the heated seats in the car while we
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  Speaker 3: were sitting there waiting for this. But yes, it is.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little CHRILLI it's thirty or so. It's been
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  Speaker 3: overcast all day up here, and also there's a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of win. So yes, the real field temperature was
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  Speaker 3: kind of in the mid teens. So we're basically basically
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  Speaker 3: with the Ohio State Tennessee game last year. That's basically
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  Speaker 3: us right now. So I don't know how that's going
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  Speaker 3: to impact our ability to throw the football, but you
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  Speaker 3: don't think I wasn't planning on throwing it a lot anyway.
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  Speaker 1: This will definitely affect my ability to do a show,
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  Speaker 1: but I will power through, and so go ahead through
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  Speaker 1: your questions in super chats. We will get to as
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  Speaker 1: much as we can today and tom we are now
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  Speaker 1: since this is a live show, everybody knows exactly how
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  Speaker 1: far away we are from the game less than I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, eighteen hours or so thereabouts ish nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: Hours, nineteen hours and forty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and twelve fifteen, twelve fourteen pm kickoff.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well then nineteen hours and fifty four minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a big noon for Big Neon kickoff. As you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not quite a big it's not actually a noon kickoff.
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  Speaker 1: So twelve fifteen tomorrow things will finally get here. This
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  Speaker 1: is something we talk about all year long, we wait
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  Speaker 1: for it. It's and for me, the reason this is
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  Speaker 1: different other than it's sure it's a rivalry game. We
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  Speaker 1: cover eleven games and then you cover history. Yes, every
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  Speaker 1: year for this game. You you know you're about to
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  Speaker 1: watch history. You don't know how it's going to go,
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  Speaker 1: but you know everybody's going to be remembering it for
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  Speaker 1: a very long time, and especially for the year that follows.
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  Speaker 1: I think to me, it's always a privilege and an
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  Speaker 1: honor to cover this game knowing what it means and
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  Speaker 1: how long it's going to be remembered.
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  Speaker 3: For sure, because you can go back pick a year
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  Speaker 3: and I can probably tell you the Ohios D Michigan score.
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  Speaker 3: Could I tell you the score of I don't know that.
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  Speaker 3: I could tell you who Ohios it played in non
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  Speaker 3: conference last year with any real high degree of certainty
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  Speaker 3: year certainly without having to stop and think about it.
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  Speaker 3: But this game, I tell you what happened in this
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  Speaker 3: game last year. I can tell you what happened to
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  Speaker 3: this game two years ago, three years ago, thirty years ago.
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  Speaker 3: I can tell you you were here thirty years ago. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's a game. That's again you talk about all the time,
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  Speaker 3: and it's but this is the this is the game
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  Speaker 3: that defines the season for Ohio State. And that's always true.
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  Speaker 3: That's always going to be true. I know that with
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  Speaker 3: the modern college football playoff. And you know, last year
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State lost this game, won the national championship. This
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  Speaker 3: is still boy, you didn't win that game last year.
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  Speaker 3: That's still a topic this week.
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  Speaker 2: It's not.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, you know, everyone's kind of gotten, you know,
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  Speaker 3: not no one, No one's worried about that because they
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  Speaker 3: won the national championship last year. This is still the
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  Speaker 3: game that everyone talks about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and time if you can read any of
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  Speaker 1: those questions come across field, where.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna, we are we are good at The type
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  Speaker 3: is small on our phone, so if if there is
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  Speaker 3: a super chat, I leaning and reading. Otherwise I see
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  Speaker 3: our friends Sue, Hello, Sue, I recognize your avatar. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: well we'll dip in and read the superchats. But otherwise, well,
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  Speaker 3: so I think you mentioned the cold. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be an issue tomorrow because the players
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  Speaker 3: have been through it. They're kind of tired of maybe
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  Speaker 3: even being asked about it. Like, you know, it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be thirty degrees tomorrow, right, Sonny, you're asking sunny
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  Speaker 3: styles about the temperatures. You know, they played against Tennessee
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  Speaker 3: last year and they were fine. Yeah, Like they handled
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  Speaker 3: that well. They handled the pressure of Texas well. They've
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  Speaker 3: handled everything well this season. Tom But when you look
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  Speaker 3: at that schedule, there's one ranked team on that schedule
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  Speaker 3: that was Texas and the season opener.
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  Speaker 2: Both teams are still figuring out who they were.
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State after that Rye Dason, we probably could have
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  Speaker 1: done more, with Julian saying probably could have done more
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  Speaker 1: here there, they're very conservative, like goh State had like
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy yards of total offense in that
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  Speaker 1: game and was leading fourteen nothing at the end in
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  Speaker 1: the final three minutes, so they weren't challenged to go
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  Speaker 1: get more. I don't know if two hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 1: yards will do it on Saturday, but this will be
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  Speaker 1: the biggest challenge for Ohio State since that Texas game.
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  Speaker 1: And there's no reason to feel things out in terms of, well,
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  Speaker 1: we don't we don't know what Texas is, you know
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  Speaker 1: what Michigan is, you know what you are.
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  Speaker 2: You don't necessarily need to feel things out. You come
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  Speaker 2: out swinging if you want.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I and I think they are going to
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  Speaker 3: come out swinging. I don't think there's any reason, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we the weather you mentioned the snow in the forecast
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  Speaker 3: has kind of gotten pushed back. There's a winter storm warning,
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  Speaker 3: but it starts at three o'clock on Saturday, So okay,
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  Speaker 3: the game is going to basically be over by three
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  Speaker 3: o'clock on Saturday. The wind is not expected to be
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  Speaker 3: a factor. It's not negative ten degrees, it's not leading sideways.
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  Speaker 3: It's it should be a game where the weather's not
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  Speaker 3: you know, let's get the weather's going to be noticeable,
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  Speaker 3: but not be something that controls the game. And given that,
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  Speaker 3: I think Ohio State's going to come out and try
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  Speaker 3: and set the you know, set the tempo early sort
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  Speaker 3: of established. I mean what they did against Tennessee last
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  Speaker 3: year where you know, they came in and everyone was
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  Speaker 3: kind of going, whoa boy, what about what is this?
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  Speaker 3: Is this an Ohio State team in crisis? And then
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  Speaker 3: they came out and just went bombs away in the
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  Speaker 3: first quarter. And you know the first time Jeremiah Smith
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  Speaker 3: caught a touchdown against in that Tennessee game. Everyone kind
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  Speaker 3: of went, oh, okay, I get it, I get it.
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  Speaker 3: French class, Ah, okay, you might see. I think they're
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  Speaker 3: going to take a shot at that. Now does Michigan
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  Speaker 3: know that? And is that going to impact the Powo
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  Speaker 3: States ability to actually do that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably, But I.
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  Speaker 3: Think that Ohio State is going to be looking for
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  Speaker 3: opportunities to make a big play early, get on top.
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  Speaker 3: They have been playing from behind in this game two
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  Speaker 3: years in a row. They don't want to do that again.
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  Speaker 3: They want to get out in front, make Michigan play
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  Speaker 3: from behind and make you know, get that Michigan crowd
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  Speaker 3: out of the out of the game. Super chat from
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  Speaker 3: Tom may be a secret Michigan fan.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a secret.
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  Speaker 3: I have lived up here. I lived up here for
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  Speaker 3: number of years.
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  Speaker 2: Why did you move to Columbus, sir?
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  Speaker 3: Why did I move to Columbus?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? The first time. Oh so you're so you start
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  Speaker 2: this is?
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  Speaker 3: Have you seen the TV series be serious the American Americans?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, very much so.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm the Carrie Russell at the Ohio State beat
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  Speaker 3: from at Doug Shepherd coffee or hot chocolate is on me? Oh,
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  Speaker 3: thank you? Doug, we appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: We will.
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  Speaker 3: This may be we'll see what the team is supposed
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  Speaker 3: to get here, even for about half an hour forty
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  Speaker 3: five minutes or so. This may be one of these
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  Speaker 3: shows where you know, we I spent a lot of
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  Speaker 3: time at ice rinks, so I am sort of acclimated
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  Speaker 3: did this to a certain degree. This may be one
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  Speaker 3: of these things where it's like you order a hot
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  Speaker 3: chocolate and then you just like dip your fingers in
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  Speaker 3: the hot chocolate.
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  Speaker 2: You're soaking in it.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: When we talk about the weather, it's just unfortunate that
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State is the only team that has to play
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  Speaker 1: in the weather.
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  Speaker 3: Right well, yeah, no, Ohio State's offends is if both
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  Speaker 3: teams could do what they wanted to do, Michigan would
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  Speaker 3: run the ball forty seven times and throw it maybe
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  Speaker 3: ten and not have to throw it more than five
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  Speaker 3: yards down the field. And if Ohio State could do
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  Speaker 3: what they wanted to do, they would throw the ball.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the wind, all things be equal, wind impacts
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  Speaker 3: what Ohio State wants to do more than it does Michigan. Again,
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  Speaker 3: I don't expect this to be a factor, a meaningful
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  Speaker 3: factor in the game. You know, it's it's something that
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  Speaker 3: we talk about. It we get asked about. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think this is not the twenty twenty two Northwestern game.
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  Speaker 3: This is not the twenty seventeen Illinois game where you
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  Speaker 3: had those like biblical downpours. This is not the Notre
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  Speaker 3: Dame North Carolina State game where they were playing in
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  Speaker 3: a hurricane. Like, It's not any of that those things.
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  Speaker 3: This should be.
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  Speaker 2: A normal, a normal late November game.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, this is This is not the first time
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State football played and it was not you know,
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  Speaker 3: shorts and T shirts weather. Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: They even said they've been waiting for this weather.
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  Speaker 3: It's happened yet, right, They have had a really really
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  Speaker 3: light scheduling of the weather.
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  Speaker 2: They hear all great uh.
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  Speaker 3: From Jordan Kapler. Wife and I drove down to Ohio
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  Speaker 3: from from the state up north to have Thanksgiving with
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  Speaker 3: my family tomorrow, planning on eating at one pm. I'm
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  Speaker 3: now trying to decide if I should try to eat
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  Speaker 3: with my family or just take my plate to the
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  Speaker 3: garage and eat alone. Is that a question?
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  Speaker 6: Is that?
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  Speaker 7: Is that?
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  Speaker 3: Do you eat alone?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, as long as there's a TV in the garage, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're fine.
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  Speaker 1: I heard Jim Dressel on the radio and Columbus earlier
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  Speaker 1: in the week, and he was kind of asked that
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  Speaker 1: same kind of question, like are you going to go
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  Speaker 1: to the game?
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  Speaker 2: If not, how are you going to watch it?
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  Speaker 1: He's like, well, I'm not going to the mission, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to up there, I'm not going to Michigan Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: But he does prefer to just watch this game by himself,
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  Speaker 1: which you can certainly understand unless you're around like him
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  Speaker 1: and Mark D'Antonio get together and watch it. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe him and his wife, but other than that, I
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  Speaker 1: don't need family around for this.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this is this is kind of the version of
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  Speaker 3: going to you know, your a big fan of Filling
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  Speaker 3: the Blank movie franchise, and then you go with someone
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  Speaker 3: who's never seen it before and it's like, who's that guy?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, what does he mean by that? That's thor he's
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  Speaker 2: the kuy of Thunder.
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  Speaker 3: Stop asking these stupid questions now when you say Thunder, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: super chat from heaven r. If given the opportunity to think,
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  Speaker 3: coach Day would run.
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  Speaker 2: Up the score.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this was actually a listener question that we addressed
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  Speaker 1: this this this year and also last year, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I think we've this time, we've decided probably not
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  Speaker 1: because you've got Indie and waiting and somebody has Indiana
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  Speaker 1: waiting in the wings, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's more after that.
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  Speaker 1: What I do think you could see more of, though,
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  Speaker 1: is tempo Owhia State slow played all season long to
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  Speaker 1: get to these games, to the hardware games, the trophy games,
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  Speaker 1: whereas Ryan Day calls.
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  Speaker 2: Them, now, they're here.
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  Speaker 1: Now, there's no reasons to go sixty plays sixty four
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  Speaker 1: they could if they want to. And then we try
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  Speaker 1: to catch Michigan in terms of the feeling out there,
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  Speaker 1: Like I wonder when they finally get Michigan in something
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  Speaker 1: that they want, boom boom boom.
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  Speaker 2: Boom, tepo them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Keep the three defensive you know Ross's talking about the
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  Speaker 1: three defensive tackles. Keep those guys on the field as
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  Speaker 1: much as you can when you want to throw the ball,
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  Speaker 1: because there will be very little pass rush for those guys.
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  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, this is this is an opportunity where you're
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  Speaker 3: not going to When we say run tempo, we don't
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  Speaker 3: mean they're going to be snapping the ball at twenty
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  Speaker 3: eight seconds on the play clock. All sixty times they
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  Speaker 3: snap the ball or whatever the number is. It means
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  Speaker 3: if you get in an advantageous situation, like you said,
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  Speaker 3: you maybe catch them in a personnel grouping where you
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  Speaker 3: have a play call that if you know they're going
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  Speaker 3: to be in this personnel grouping and the situation you
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  Speaker 3: know calls for it, you can maybe get into an
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  Speaker 3: advantageous spot. That's where that tempo really can come in
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  Speaker 3: handy and can make a big difference. And like you said,
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  Speaker 3: they really haven't done a ton now, They've done it
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  Speaker 3: enough in the past that you you know, everyone knows
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  Speaker 3: they have this in their toolbox. They just haven't done
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  Speaker 3: it a lot. I think that's one where And just
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  Speaker 3: in case you're wondering, why would that make a difference,
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  Speaker 3: you can't sub, Well, you can't. If you sub between
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  Speaker 3: plays as an offense the defense gets you know, the
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  Speaker 3: official will stand over the ball until the defense gets
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  Speaker 3: a chance to sub. If you don't sub and you
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  Speaker 3: run tempo, by all means, defense feel free to sub,
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  Speaker 3: but you'd better get your hind that kind quarters off
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  Speaker 3: that field and get your new guys on because then
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  Speaker 3: you don't have to wait. So if you want to
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  Speaker 3: snap it you can snap it and you don't have
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  Speaker 3: to let them get lined up, you don't have to
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  Speaker 3: let them get off the field, And if they don't
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  Speaker 3: get off the field, you get a free play. You're
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  Speaker 3: gonna try to take a shot down the field. If
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  Speaker 3: you're trying to get a defensive tackle off the field
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  Speaker 3: and he is not moving as fast as you know
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  Speaker 3: they might want him to. If he's still on the field,
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  Speaker 3: it's a free play. So then you take your shot
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  Speaker 3: and there's no downside.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And with Ohio State, I'll be interested to see
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  Speaker 1: how Michigan approaches Ohio State's twelve personnel with Max Player
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  Speaker 1: as that second tight end slash slot receiver. Do they
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  Speaker 1: go nickel, do they defend him with the safety or linebacker,
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  Speaker 1: because that does not work this season for Michigan, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it would work against Max Claire. So
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  Speaker 1: then if they're in nickel, then you you run it
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  Speaker 1: like basically, whatever they're giving you go ahead and try
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  Speaker 1: to take and then eventually you know, some play action
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. Very very basic stuff. But Ohio State versatile
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  Speaker 1: enough on offense to do those sorts of things. Also
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  Speaker 1: versatile enough on defense too. If Michigan wants to try
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  Speaker 1: some tempo. That's okay by Ohio State because they've got
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  Speaker 1: our Bell Reese on the edge of they got them
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  Speaker 1: in linebacker, they've got Caleb Downs, They've got you know,
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  Speaker 1: if they don't have Lorenzo Styles out there at that point,
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  Speaker 1: they could still work around it. They're always going to
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  Speaker 1: have an ability to gain an advantage or not be disadvantaged.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Ohio State has a lot of different things
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  Speaker 3: that they can do and a lot of different guys that,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, Arvel Reeves can be a defensive defensive
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  Speaker 3: end KT and Curry can be a defensive end. We
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  Speaker 3: also have seen him line up as a no tackle
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  Speaker 3: straight up over the center. We've seen him do that.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen Sunny Styles be a linebacker. We've seen Sunny
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  Speaker 3: Styles drop back and covered. Sonny Styles started his Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State careers of safety. He knows how to do it.
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  Speaker 3: He could. They can mix and match and move people around.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, do you want Sunny Styles and cover
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  Speaker 3: tickets and wide receiver. No, you probably don't, but you can.
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  Speaker 3: You can put yourself in a situation where you have
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  Speaker 3: different guys who can sort of fit different roles. I
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  Speaker 3: just keep going back to exactly what you were just
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  Speaker 3: saying about Max Claire, you're generally if as a defensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 3: you're just sort of matching personnel. So you're looking and
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  Speaker 3: you're saying, Okay, Ohio State has two tight ends out there,
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  Speaker 3: all right, so we're gonna be in this. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they're they're in twelve personnel, So we're gonna be donline,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna be four line, You're gonna be four, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: four to three and then four three four, very standard defense. Well,
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  Speaker 3: then if Max Claire splits out and now you're basically
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  Speaker 3: in eleven personnel, which then you want your nickel on
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  Speaker 3: the field. But you don't have your nickel on the field.
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  Speaker 3: You could and if you're you know, it's third and
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  Speaker 3: one and you up with in twelve personnel and player's
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  Speaker 3: one of your tight ends, you pick it up and
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  Speaker 3: then boom you go, and then then you're then you
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  Speaker 3: can catch them in this mismatch stuff like that. That's
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  Speaker 3: where that really does potentially, uh you know, you allow
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: you to use tempo to your advantage.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Ohio State right now just just
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: waiting to kick in the offense. And this is basically
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: what they've been building towards and now you're here, so
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: no reason to hold anything back now. Now that doesn't
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: mean you're throwing out everything this week, because this is
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: just the first of a handful of games that they
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: want you to play.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Right, the first of five and potentially six depending on
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: how it goes. You could you could, potentially, if Michigan
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: be to Ohio State tomorrow and Ohios State misses the
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Big Ten Championship game, Ohio State could once again be
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: playing the Saturday before Christmas and have to win four games.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: You could have You could theoretically, theoretically you could lose
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: this game, still go to the Big Ten Championship game,
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: have to play that one. Theoretically lose that game. I
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: mean you could, you could. There are ways they could
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: end up having to play six games. They're certainly hoping
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: they get to play five, one this weekend, one next weekend,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: and three in the College Football playoffs. But yeah, there
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: is a long way to go. It feels, you know,
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: it feels like you get to this game and it's like, well,
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: it's the end of the season, and it's like, well no, really,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: this is kind of about the halfway mark when you
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: consider how many games they have had that were not
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: you know, real meaningful games subject not a chance in
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: hell that either Kate or JJ don't play. I expect
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: a wide open game, plans.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Well wide open to a point. You know, you're still
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I still still want to run the ball because they
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: believe they can. But if your full strength, then that
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: allows you to do anything, and that's the that's what
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: the coach sat. Balance actually is the ability to do
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: whatever whatever, and what it does is man, we've seen
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: them how limited they were the past two weeks and
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: to have them be unlimited, whether they're wide open or not,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: just to be unlimited is already an issue for Michigan's defense,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: which is okay, But we don't know about Ernest Houseman.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: We don't know what's going on there.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: We've talked all season long about the secondary and their
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: issues and random injuries that they have at safety at times.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: But the defensive line, Derek Moore defensive end very good.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Jashon Barram not necessarily the playmaker that Derek Moore is,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: but has the potential to do something at any point.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: So that's the guy to watch. But you know, when
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: you have the ability to do anything, then that's exactly
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: what you've been building towards all season long, and to
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: be as healthy as you can be at this point,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: and to be as the running game is better than
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: it's been, the passing game is fine, the offensive line
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: they've gave Van Sickle coming along, taker Shibolla playing better.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Seems like things.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Are coming up pretty well for the twelfth game of
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: the season. And it's not as ideal, but it's as
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: close to it could be, knowing that there have been
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: some injuries.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Right, No one is one hundred percent healthy this time
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: of year. No football teams ever one hundred percent healthy
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: this time of year. Audio State is assuming everything we're
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: hearing about Jeremiah Smith and Carnel Tate on the Lorenzo
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: styles is all accurate, and those guys are presumably in,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: you know, good to go as of now. That's about
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: as well as well as things could be going for
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: you injury wise at this point in the calendar. I
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: think a lot of that does have to do with
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: the load management that they've done and sort of the
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: growth in terms of limiting the snaps but also not
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: playing you know, you're seeing you're seeing, Like boy David
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Adolf said in the first quarter in some of these games,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: like what's going on to say, well, all these little
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: things add up. Spreading the reps from the running backs
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: between four different guys this year, that stuff adds up,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: and it just you know, you have all the theories
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: about oh, well they're doing this and that and strength
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: and conditioning or oh boy.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: The split film turf at home.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, it's just a death trap, and it's like, well,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: here they are, and they're not in bad shape right now.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: So I think a lot of the stuff they're doing
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: is working. Again, there are no guarantees, and you know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: we can we can hear all we want about how
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: everyone's in decent shape, and you could someone could wake
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: up tomorrow morning and like whatever is tight or whatever
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: is sore or whatever is and on a cold day
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: you might not take a chance. But right now it
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: seems like they're in as decent shape as they could be.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Get a super chat from Jordan Kavler. If one jar
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: of pickles eat the two percent increase in t Tate
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: and JJ playing, how many jars of pickles should deftely
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: be forced to eat? Well, I think the answer to
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: that is always fifty fifty.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Well, forcing Kevintry charge of pickles. It's not something that's
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: ever been done. These are choices that he's his idea.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I remember, these are his ideas. I don't know what
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Kevin had to say. There are probably nothing that we.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: Need to see.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: It looks like he says, yes, here you go fifty
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: jars over the course of a season.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: That would be getting nice target. Listen, get those medicinal pickles.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: We saw billboards for medicinal pickles as we crossed the
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: state line during up here, So there you go. Also,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: my band, Dame, what's the deal with Tony's with Tony's
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: medicinal pickles?
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: No?
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Now, okay, can we talk about the oisted offensive line
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: a little more? Because you know, I think we have
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: seen them run the ball so much better the last
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks, and I'm that's maybe the single most
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: the thing I'm most interested in in terms of moving forward.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: How is so highest stay able to run the ball
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: against Michigan Because we have seen them run the ball
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: so well the last couple weeks against UCLA and Rutgers.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: This has coincided with them playing two of the worst
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: run defenses on their schedules, so they're yes, bad, bad,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: And it feels like they've maybe coalesced around some different
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: concepts in the run game. It feels like maybe some
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: of the player on the line are playing better right now.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: That's all encouraging, but how much of it is that
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: stuff and how much of it is Yeah, I think
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I could probably run for at least three yarditary against records.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Well, and because that's the questions that I had for
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the buck Eys offensive lineman Carson Hensman tied End Wilkes
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Merik and they said they see it in practice that
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: it's not just the opponents. And again, the two worst
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: run defenses that we've seen this year have been, I
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: think the last two weeks, just the inability to maintain
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: leverage to like not give up wide open holes. But
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: also we are seeing stuff from the running backs that
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you've not seen this year. You're seeing cut back from
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Bo Jackson, You're seeing him keep his head up, You're
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: seeing that vision James, people's getting to the outside. You're
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: seeing that explosion that we have talked about in the past.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: CJ.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Donaldson has just you know, he's missed a game and
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: he's just kind of let everything happen around and let
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the young pups get some experience, and I think that's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: been very, very beneficial.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: So when I look at this offensive line, I.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, bad defenses, but this is also better than the
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: running backs have done all season long. All of them
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: consistently finding yards making people miss is not something that
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: they did early in the season.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: You're seeing Bo Jackson run over people.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: He hit his ball and he's back out of it,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I believe, And and James Peebles has been playing so well.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: The Isaiah West's carriers have gone down.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think these are all very good things
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: that you've got.
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: Guys.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: It's like, I need to get him in now. I
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: need to get him in now. That's a much better
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: situation than early in the season. It's like, I guess
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: we'll try him right.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It does feel like they're finding more answers rather
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: than sort of theories or questions right now, which is
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: which is a positive for sure. I'm wondering how much CJ.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Donaldson we see on Sunday Saturday, because man, oh man,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: in my head, how many times have we talked about
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: what they could do in the passing game will be
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: determined by how well they can protect Julian say it,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: and CJ. Donaldson seems like he is the best in
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: terms of past pro in general blitz, pick up and specific.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: You know, Whank Partindale is going to be bringing pressure,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: especially if he sees, hey, the secondary can't hold up.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: We can't do it this way, We're gonna have to
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: do it that way. This it feels like you could
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: have a game where CJ. Donaldson's on the field for
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: twenty five snaps and has like five carries. This this
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: could be like a real low key CJ. Donaldson game
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: that doesn't actually show up on the stat sheet as
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: a CJ.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Donaldson game.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, stepping up, stepping up against the line, but linebacker
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: blitzes of Jimmy Rolder, Paul Sullivan, maybe Ernest Housman, just
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: being that guy that sees it coming it can step
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: in and and not just get run over. That's when
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: you see freshmen do that, it's kind of expected. You
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to put them in that role. I
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: think we could also see some of the freshmen and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: then James People's as well used in the passing game.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Use those running backs in the passing game, easy yards
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: out out wide, but also those dump offs over the middle.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: That are the fourth read and.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: It's it's thirteen fourteen, fifteen yards and it's a first down.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Moves to change start all over again, and it's it's
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: gonna be so frustrating for a defense to like to
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: defend the receivers, Yeah, to defend the tight end and
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: then stinking running back just wide open over the middle.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Just get it dumped off and then he takes off
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: of field. Because that's one of the things that Bo
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Jackson does so well is just I get the ball,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I go up field as a receiver. And he's done that,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: whether it's on the sideline, whether it's up the middle,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: he's done a very good job of.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: That this year.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to have Okay, you've got Jeremiah Smith covered all right,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: you got Colonel Tape covering a right, you got Brandon
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: in this covered all right, you got Max Clayer covering
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: all right. They didn't run the.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Ball great.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: First down, but that that is definitely a difficult spot
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: to be in to have a tactic or try to
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: do that, to cover all those different all those different
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: sort of pieces.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna have to move over.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, the buses are going to be coming in and
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be rolling right here and here.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: So okay, so even players are be walking through here. Yeah,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: all right, so we're gonna just here. You pick up
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: the thing and you carry that over there. I will
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: move the.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Bag with us here, bullets. The fact that we are
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: moving around.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: For the team is probably good indication that they're on
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: their web. Yes, we were told in the ETA of
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: six ten, and then we were told running early. So
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: we'll see where they when they pop in.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Uh super chat from users string of numbers. Thank you,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: appreciate you very much. Always appreciate you showing up.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: So we were talking about, uh, the running game, running backs. Yeah,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I think this is an Ohio State offense that has
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I think this goes to the idea that Ohio State
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: has more potential pass to victory than Michigan.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Doners.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Ohio State has more ways they can beat you. You know,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Michigan's offense feels like, Okay, if they can run the ball, great,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: that solves their problem. If they can throw the ball
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: to Andrew marsh, great, that solves the problem. Maybe hit
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: one at all in the colleague, maybe right sage more
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: than whatever. But you know, it feels like, really run
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: the ball, throw to Andrew marsh Maybe Bryce Underwood can
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: run some QB draw kind of stuff. That's kind of it,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: and you might need to force some turnovers, get some
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: short fields whatever. For Ohio State, there's just so many
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: more ways they could potentially. It doesn't mean they're going
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: to be able to run the ball and also throw
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: the ball to Jeremia Smith and also throw the ball
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: to Cardinaltate and also throw the ball max player, but
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: they have a bunch of They have more guys that
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: you look at and go, yeah, that guy could have
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: one hundred yards rushing, slash receiving. It just feels like
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: the number for Michigan is like two and the number
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: for Ohio States like fourth, And that to me is
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: in and of itself a little bit, you know, a
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: little bit of a telling stat sujecerally Ryan does new
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: National Award idea best name in college football player this
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: year's when they're Rocky Beers Colorado State tight end.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I saw a decommitment and flip yesterday of the day
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: before from somebody who's nickname is Purgatory.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: It's interesting that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: They that feels like a guy who's gonna end up
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: in the transfer portal and just stay there.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: That feels like that's that's a de commitment, not a flip.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: That's that's just a straight d commitment. And I wish
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I could remember the rest of his name because it's
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: just as good.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: So you look up like a purgatory de commitment and no,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: there's candidate for twenty twenty six.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I believe I think Spurgeon had something to write about
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: that at one point in history. Super chat from Ark
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Mangos says, go go Blue, go blows. I think I
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: don't think they meant the first part of that. That's
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: how that's my clues from context back to the ways
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: that these teams can score.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: When you talk about Michigan's offense, and we talked about
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: High State running Nickel, I wonder how much Nickel there
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: will be outside of third and long, because how much
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: third receiver is Michigan going to play this one when
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: their third receiver is Samas Morgan who didn't play last
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: week and whose effectiveness is in doubt. Uh, And we've
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: seen Channing Goodwin at times he could maybe. We've also
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: seen Andrew marsh in the slot a little bit this
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: most recent game. So I wonder if maybe that's a
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: way to get Andrew marsh away from Jerie Matthews. Dave
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Snigunos has run him out of the slot against either
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a banged up Lorenzo Styles Junior or a renter pressman
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Bryce West, who is not a ton of experiences. If
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: you're looking for the maybe the best way to find
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: an advantage permission, maybe it's not.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then again, interesting question is okay, if you
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: do that as snap or two, sure you you figure
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: it out. If he starts operating exclosevely at the slot.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: I do wonder at what point Ohio State looks and goes, well,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: all right, you're gonna kickjer Maine Matthews inside if and
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: when he's in that spot, because there isn't really a
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: third receiver on this team. That scares you. You know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: We've seen somebody from Morgan Bet want to be that
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: third guy at bunch, but he's been inconsistent. He is,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: he is one. He is the guy this year that
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I hope he doesn't name search on Twitter
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: after games because Michigan ad fans have said some very
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: unkind things that had he's had drops and he has
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: he's had fumbles and he's just he's had issues over
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: the course of the year. But if it's not Smash Morgan,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: there's not a third receiver outside of Marsh and McCully
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: that you look at and go, oh boy, you really
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: got to watch out for him. I think Ohio State,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I don't. I think the Marsh thing inside, you know,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: situationally sure, but I don't. I think that's kind of
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: the you know, that's like, well, we're just going to
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: run the quarterback and it's like that, doesn't you know
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: It's like Briley Leonard for Notre Dame in the National
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Championship Game last year, like, well, if he could just
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: run the ball fifty more times like that, It's like, no,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: if he did that, he would be dead.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: And also a high State would adjust to it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: And Matt Patricia, you know that that might be you
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: know that you see that on the first drive and
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: they go down and score and everyone goes ah.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: And then Ohio State adjusts and then it doesn't work it.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: We talked about Jeremiah Smith and Carnonte, but seeing the
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: health of Lorenzo Styles and how long he can stay
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: healthy will be interesting. That that's a key guy for
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Ohio State. In a defense that is loaded with guys
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: that we talk about. We don't talk about him nearly enough.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: He's been to one of their best players. You know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: they've had like fourteen best players that he's one of
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: their fourteen best players because they're all very very good.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, super chat this it's hail to the cheaters is
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: greater than hails to the victors. Yeah, it's you know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of looking forward to that not being a
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: topic of around this game, one Blair or the other.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: You know, you had twenty twenty three obviously that was
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: like the topic. Twenty twenty four was like okay, well
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: let's see what they can do without. And then it's
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: kind of like this year, like all right, now we're
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: kind of everyone's through that and the whole situation has
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: been resolved and everyone's pretending that they were right about
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: everything whole time, and but it's like it's done, so
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: now we can just watch the football game and watch
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: them play football and not have it be about all
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: the off field stuff.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you need something to happen for that
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to happen, and you need an Ohio State when well,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: you can move beyond, start to move beyond that well.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: But but I mean, if there's not an Ohio state
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: when that's still like that has nothing to do.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: With well, it has something to do with the streak.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You've got to get away from that.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: So yeah, get away from the streak, and then you
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: can get away from the the cheating aspect of things.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: All right, So I say, fans therefore should be rooting
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: for this so we can move past that. So there,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. Now, finally you'll have a rooting
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: interest in this game. Cheese sticks are delicacies as could
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: you eat fifty cheese sticks in fifteen minutes?
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: No?
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: No, well, well the fifty cheese sticks is you eat
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: like two cheese sticks. It's like, all right, that's probably
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: enough cheese sticks.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Now, fifty cheese curds are fifteen minutes.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Probably, I mean that's now just a large order, probably fifty.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably like a largely large orders.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so that's a that's a go
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: where you go?
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's that's a that's a future Wisconsin trip.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: That's not that's not a Michigan trip. Question. Yeah, fifty
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: think that's a small and it's going fifty fifty.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Well we can we can read the Wisconsin life expectancy
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: stats and between the brandy and the cheese, the cheese curves,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: there's probably it's probably a little bit of why there.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: So we are now probably I'm guessing ten ish minutes
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: from the team arrival. All the local uh local TV
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: folks are are now up and running as well.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Staffers are a flutter.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the doors are the doors of the hotel are open.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: So now we're we're getting a little closer. Just so
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: you guys know what to expect when the team gets here.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take off my microphone and handed to
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Tony and then Tony. Yeah, and then Tony is going
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: to take the phone off the tripod and you will
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: probably have a little bit of fumbling around. He may
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: have to turn the phone forwards. Ryan Day, I'm not
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: sure I could.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Punch in the yeah, gloves off. Yeah, well and my
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: extra gloves.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: You had an extrapiric gloves. Uh. So he's gonna take that,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: take the microphones, take the phone. He's gonna go get that.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: I will go record separately, and we'll so so that
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: we will have a clip of this that they can
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: use later because good news, we're planning on running this
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: show bo Like we're gonna finish up here. We're going
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: to hand it off to Kevin and Juck. They're gonna
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: go for a while, and then Tony and I when
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: we get back to the hotel, uh and uh saw
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: our toes out for a little while, will be uh,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: we'll be back on later. So this will this is
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: going to be an extended live show. Yes, but buckle
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: in go to put it on. Put on an extra
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: pot of coffee.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: We'll be on.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: We'll be on a while because we're guessing you guys
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: have some questions and want to talk about various stuff.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Right, and we'll get to a bunch of questions. Juck
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: and Kevin will get to a bunch of questions. Yeah, well,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: and we'll get to one. I will say, when the
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: bus do you get here? Just realize we've got good
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Wi Fi right now. What the further we get away
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: from the hotel, the Wi Fi could drop off of everything.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: It's like unknown waters out there. So just realize that
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: if it's a little spotty, it's not my fault. It's
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: not Time's fault, it's not Kevin it's not Kevin's fault. Well,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: it's not Kevin's fault. We told him no straight no, no.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: No, no, no one promised him no straights.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. On the payment right.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Over there just says here be monsters. So I'm sure
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: that's a good sign. Uh. They also wants to know
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: predictions from the final score tomorrow.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I have set mine in.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's been toasted no more.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: So.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I went twenty seven to seventeen Ohio State thinking there's
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: a late Michigan touchdown, and I think Ohio State is
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: up comfortable. I'm not to where they're not dying for
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: more and they're if they're willing to just a little
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: bit Michigan's offense.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: And then Michigan gets a late.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Score, yeah, to make it a ten point game rather
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: than a comfortable two score game, three score game throughout
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: much of the game.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I went Ohio State twenty seven, Michigan thirteen. I
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: love this. This is another classic example of we talk
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: enough about these games that we end up coalescing around
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: the same basic score, the same thought. Ohio State potentially
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: gets off, you know, Ohio State, if they can just
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: get off to a good start, they can potentially pull
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: away and not you know, not turn this into a blowout,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: but turn this into a game where you're not sweating
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: every second of the fourth quarter. I think my biggest
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: question is Michigan getting to thirteen. Michigan getting to seventeen.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: That feels like that would be a pretty good outcome
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: for their offense, where if they're going to get more
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: than that, it probably has to come from defensive score,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: special team score.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like one score or less is more likely
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: than twenty four.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, kids offense, So you have we both have them
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: scoring three times. Yeah, and that's in nine possessions, so
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: you better make for most of those. And I just
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: feel like you're asking a lot to score five times
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: in those nine possessions to win. Whether that's we're not
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: all going to be touchdowns, but you're twenty one and
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: two field goals basically right, Well, we've got them, you
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: know what Ohio State with So you'd have to match that,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: and it's a tough ask assuming Ohio State does what
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: we think they're going to do.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And to me a lot, this this game, the
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: biggest matchup of this game outside of just win the trenches,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: which is sort of the You know, we don't need
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: to say that, because that's the answer all the time.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: The biggest matchup to this game is Matt Patricia and
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Bryce Underwood and what does Matt Patricia throw at a
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: freshman quarterback? And how can Michigan and offensive court it
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: a trip? Lindsay come up with ways to keep things
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: potentially simple for him, because it's just this is going
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: to be a game where things.
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: Are going fast.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: This is going to be a game where he's never
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: been part of this game before, and he is a
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: true freshman who he has not had that extra spring,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: that extra summer, that extra season that Julian Saying has had.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a lot that Brice Underwood
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: seas on Saturday, think he's never never seen before or
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: not seen on any kind of a regular basis, or
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: he's gonna see one thing and go, oh, I know
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: what this is. Okay, I have the answers to the test,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: and then Tony just what he has the answers.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: What is Mattheatricia gonna do? Change questions?
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: So I do think a lot of quick throws, quick screens,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: half field reads on the rollouts. Oh, you don't have
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: to worry about the left side of the field. Just
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: worry about the right side. Flood the field, easy reads,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: want to run that sort of thing. Also, once you run,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: get down, get out of bounds, don't take any unnecessary hits,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: which is what of his he's not great at it. Yeah,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: but he's a big kit so he can take some hits.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: But then he's like, I'm a big kid. I can
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: take some hits, or he takes some hits. You gotta
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: do what you gotta do to win this game. Save
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: those for the fourth quarter movie instead of the first quarter.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: But well, and this is one of these things that
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: if you've listened to our Michigan monday'd show us all
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: year long that that's been like almost since week one.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: You got to stop taking hits because you're a big play.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: You know, he's a big dude, he's a strong kid.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: But you're gonna get it at some point. You're gonna
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: get a hit that you're not going to live it
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: up from immediately. And that that has been a concern
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: with me with him all the year because he'll do it.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: It's like if it's fourth and two in the fourth quarter, Yeah, man,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: you got to get what you get if you've got
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: to try and run through our valries at that point,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: like go with God. But if it's the first quarter
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: or it's second and seven something like that, then you
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: got to kind of choose your battles. We hear sirens.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Ohio State is here. So we're going to execute the
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: game plan and see how it goes.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: We will see.
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: Brian ar Jeremiah Carnell here. Very good to go.
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: They are on the trip and looking for a good
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: night of preparation or just yeah, I just flew in.
• 38:56
  Speaker 9: It was a great flight and looking forward to having
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: a great preparation tonight.
• 38:59
  Speaker 10: We'll consine to do that all the way to kick
• 39:00
  Speaker 10: off and exciting.
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: How do you think your team prepared for this test?
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: Well, very similar to how we have all year. A
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: little extra focus, just a different look in their eye
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: this week, and so I want to continue that tonight
• 39:14
  Speaker 9: and then you know, wake up in the morning with great.
• 39:16
  Speaker 10: Energy and go get a win.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: I know the emotion, but I know it's an early
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: lights out for you on these Neon games. How do
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: you guys actually sleep on a night like this before
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: a game like this?
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: Well, it's funny, you know, it's just that's why you
• 39:28
  Speaker 9: try to get sleep early in the week because it's
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: a little bit harder for a game like this for sure.
• 39:31
  Speaker 9: But we'll do the same routine and make sure you
• 39:34
  Speaker 9: have a great meal and do bed check and get
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: them better early.
• 39:36
  Speaker 11: You talk about playing with emotion, but not a most
• 39:39
  Speaker 11: will play with you. How do you slowly let that
• 39:41
  Speaker 11: balance out here as you ramp up and your clothes
• 39:43
  Speaker 11: as a kickof well, you just.
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: Keep talking to the guys about it and have a
• 39:45
  Speaker 9: plane when they get when they get on the field.
• 39:46
  Speaker 10: And what that comes with, and just been talking to
• 39:48
  Speaker 10: it all.
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: Well, we're talking about it every day all week about
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: what that looks like and the focus that needs to
• 39:53
  Speaker 9: happen in this game. And then we just we all
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: have to do our job. And that's really what it
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: comes down to you when any type of mission.
• 39:57
  Speaker 10: And everybody has a job they have to do and
• 39:58
  Speaker 10: they have to execute when they get on the felt.
• 40:00
  Speaker 9: So you know, that's that's been it, and that's that's
• 40:02
  Speaker 9: going to continue to be the best spalloway to kick up.
• 40:04
  Speaker 12: You feel like you have a good handle on what
• 40:05
  Speaker 12: kind of weather conditions you're gonna face.
• 40:08
  Speaker 13: You just have to kind of roll with the punches tomorrow.
• 40:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think kind of like this.
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: There's some snow later in the game, but but no,
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: it's the same for both teams and they can't wait
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: for it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 14: You've got feet on the ground now inside the state
• 40:19
  Speaker 14: of Michigan. What does it like to be here in
• 40:20
  Speaker 14: the excitement as we approached this.
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: There's there's a good bounce everybody's step right now, So
• 40:25
  Speaker 9: you know, let us focus on tonight and having a
• 40:27
  Speaker 9: good meal and keeping the guys locked in.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Thanks, appreciate, uh, From all indications, I think the internet
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: held up.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, look good guys ahead, Mike right there, so good.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Hopefully everybody got to hear Ryan Day's words.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, and I will.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I will send Kevin the raw video of that that
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I got, which maybe, uh maybe better for later we'll see. Yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: that was quick, quick conversation with Brian Day. The I
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: think the first question, the first question is obviously the
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: one that everyone's gonna want to know about it with
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: the status of Jeremiah Smith, Parnell Taate, Ryan Day, Uh,
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: you know they're here. This is as he has been
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: doing it so well throughout the course of the uh,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: the course of the week. Answering the question, but without
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: answering the question that really wants the answer to it.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, they are here and good night in preparation, and
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: let's see how tomorrow goes.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: So yeah, to answer the question on the board, wee JJ.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: So we were not over where. Now I have a
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: camera set up over there that recorded everyone walking in,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: so you will at some point later I will put that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: I will share that video with Kevin right now we're
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: doing this, but I'll get that edited and sent to Kevin,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: and Kevin can put that up and you guys can
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: do your own video dissection of everyone set up. It
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: is holly to ire. Yeah, we have a video set
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: up where it'll be everyone walking right past you. The
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: lightning looked as okay as I think it could be
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: given the circumstances. So I'll send that to Kevin before
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: we wrap up out of here, just so people sort
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: of know what the game plan is for tonight. Tony
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: and I now the team's here. We're gonna we'll probably
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: take you another ten fifteen minutes or so, and then
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: we will wrap it up. We're gonna let hand it
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: over to Kevin and Juck, who will take you for
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: an hour or so and then Tony and I'll get
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: back to the hotel and then we can kind of
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: take the baton there again. Uh, some combination of us
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: after that. But yeah, we are planning to be here
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: with you. We're gonna we are here to help you
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: work your way through the emotions of the eighteen hours
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: to tick off of Ohio State and Michigan.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: And once we do get back to the hotel, that's
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: we're back on the show is our new People, Like,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I'm done thinking like you'd ask questions.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I'm done with coming up stuff to talk about. We've
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: been doing it all week. I'm done. This is on
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: New People, this is your show.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: This is always your show now. But just be prepared.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I might sit there and say nothing if nobody's got
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: anything to say. I was not expecting to cut a
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: you People promo and the audience, But here we are.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Tony Gernam and heel turned.
• 43:17
  Speaker 11: Wow.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I can't believe it right, that's hey, It's Friday tomorrow
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: is the game. I'm I'm running to be there. I'm
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: running to certainly talk about it. I just it's it's
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: the best thing.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Every year. We look forward to it. Every year. We
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: spend I almost said, way too much time on this every.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Year ectively, spend way too much time on this every years,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: more time.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Than anybody else in this business.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Probably.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: So it's it's like, I mean, you think Santa Claus
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: doesn't get geared up for Christmas, like that's the day,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: that's his big day, this is our big day. But
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: looking forward to it certainly, and again if I'm sure
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: with people on Friday, forgive me.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, So where were we before the team called in?
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: When we're talking we get finished running backs, we.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Probably talked about Bryce Underwood. Maybe you can talk about.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we should talk a little bit about Brycewood because
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: true freshman quarterback very talented. I have been trying to
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: come up with what is the Ohio state comp for
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Brice Underwood, because he's not Braxton Miller level agile, but
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: he's a better thrower than Bracton Miller. He's a better
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: thrower than Drell Prior, but he's not necessarily quite the
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: runner that Pryor was.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: CJ. Stroud against George is like he ran, he ran well.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I think that's in the range of Bryce Underwood in
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: terms of running. No, you're running.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I'm sorry I was certainly talking about the
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: running portion of that as a passer. I mean every
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: year in Ohio State they would under trust all their
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: guys would be like near the past efficiency leaders because
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: they're very conservative and and it's there's not a lot
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: of forty nine percent completion of games until like November.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: But in terms of a passer, no, no, that's there's
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: been a lot. There's been a lot of average to
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: above our passers the history.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Right, and Bryce Underwood is the very talented guy who
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: is still mechanically a little like. He'll make throws that
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: he just you're gonna look and just go that doesn't
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: look right. And if you get pressure in his face,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: he will not step into a throw and you'll see
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: that the shoulder will dip and the ball will kind
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: of sail on. We've seen that a bunch this year
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: where that's something that he is. He got away with
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: the one against Maryland last week. He can't do that
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: against Ohio State because if it's you know, Maryland does
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: not have Tala Downs back there. If Caleb Downs is
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: back there, Cala Downs is not going to drop the
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: possible take six interception. If Ohio stakets pressure on Bryce Underwood.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: We'll see how he handles it, because sometimes it's been
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: good and sometimes you can see sometimes you can know.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: You can see it with a young player, you can
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: see the game is moving a little too fast. As
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: with all young players, the game is slowing down for
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Bryce Lady. You can see the game is slowing down
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: for price Underwood. But you can also see every once
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: in a while it's like he doesn't know what you know.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: He doesn't He's got the falling. He's going, oh, crapper, crapper,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: crapple crap, And if Ohio State can get him to
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: do that a few times, that could really swing the game.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I think pressure him early that way he feels it
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: more often than like right away pressure. I think we've
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: seen Patricia just get four where there's a lot of
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: pressure in the first quarter, but they lay back in
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: a second and then the quarterback's like waiting for it.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: It doesn't happen. Yeah, then they start to maybe get
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: a little comfortable. Then third quarter they jumps there. Yeah,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: they come at him again. I could see something like that.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I just think we were talking before where a lot
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: of short passes Halffield reads.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: These are things that they can do to combat that.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: But ohios, it is also pretty dark good against screens.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: When you've got Caleb Downs, the king of basically blowing
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: streams up and he's going to be breathing that and
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: seeing it. Doubles have to do some double moves, some pumps,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: pump and go, that sort of thing because Ohio State's
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: going to be waiting for some quick pros.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, screen, So maybe you play off of that.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the fact that the fact that we
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: know that that's going to be the game plan. Ohio
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: State presumably also knows that's going to be the game plan.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: So this is where you get in the chess match
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: of well, I know what you want to do, and
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: then I know what I would want to do, but
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: you know that I know, and you get into that
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: whole thing where you know, that's where you have the
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: you know, you screen and go, or you know, you
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: pump one way, you go the other, whatever it is,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: you're double moves, whatever it is. And the Michigan is
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: at some point have to set up max protect and
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: just they're going to have to stretch the field. They
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: cannot just live in the short and intermediate game. They're
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: going to have to stretch the field at some point
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: because Ohio State can start creeping their safeties up and
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: not worrying about things, Michigan is going to ruin anyone
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: numbers problem pretty quickly.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Now, Ohio State will feel pretty good about one on
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: one card guards down the field. And if they do
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: get hands and that's fifteen yards instead of fifty, something
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: that shall take if you'll accept. So the gohiad of
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: State likes their their matchup in the passing game.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: They will understand.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: They do understand that Andrew marsh is not your typical freshman,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: but it will be interesting to see how they attack
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: him with Jermaine Matthews, Davis Niguanos and do they get
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: physical with him? Do they do? They try to get
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: him off of his game. But it's all gonna start
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: with that pressure up front. Maybe some pressure up the
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: middle Ktan McDonald. If they're talking about caging the quarterback,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: then you press him up the middle. See some blitzer
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: up the middle. That will then send Price Underwood into
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: r bel Reeves or into can you have a Jackson
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: who will be like you'll see times and they're just
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, they're waiting. Yeah, just like waiting for
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: a rebound to come down. They're just waiting for the
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: quarterback to come to like almost playing little Patti kick
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: with the right tackle, left tackle, waiting for Underwood to
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: either come to them or just keep them in the
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: fox Well.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: And you mentioned Kate McDonald there, and I don't know
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: his name came up on the first forty five minutes
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: or so of the show. He might be one of
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: the most impactful players in this game because Michigan runs
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: a zone scheme a lot, and if you can get
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: pressure in the middle of the defensive lot of the
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: you know you're get into blind to get pressure in
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: the middle, that can really screw things up and sort
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: of done tracks and guys not being able to get
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: to the teams down all that stuff. Caden McDonald is,
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: of all the defensive tackles in this game, the one
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: guy that I look at and go he can have
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: four tackles for the rest.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm expecting four times loss.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: But last year with Mason Graham Kenneth Grant, you thought like, yeah, man,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: you tell me, and I could go, yeah, I could
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: say that. This year, that feels like that's Kate McDonald
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: where Michigan. You know the Ohio State Edward Houston and
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Peven will Smith like those guys. Yeah, they're good, solid players.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Michigan's guys good solid players. Kate McDonald's the one that
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: I look at and go, you might you know, he
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: might be the one who's getting talked to by Jenny
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Taft or whoever on the field after the game. You know,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be okay, let's sorry, sorry, let's be let's
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: be grown ups. It's TV. It's gonna be Julian saying
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: and okay, but it should potentially be Kate McDonald, and
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Kate McDonald might be one of the people we get
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: to talk to after the game because you know, he
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: could have the you know, Kate and Curry's game at Washington,
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: that could be the Kate and McDonald game tomorrow. Because
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: if the interior, Michigan's offense line is good but not incredible.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: So certainly not better good last year.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: And they've got guys who they rotate four guys, two
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: guys who have started every game this year. Then they'll
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: rotate it two guys as well. And they're all big,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: but there's not much pass rush tho. There's not much
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: penetration there.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: From those four.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Well speaking, our good friend Kevin Noon is here. He's
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: gonna be joined by Jack very shortly. We are going
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: to toss it back to him now and then we
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: will get back there later. We'll send him some of
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: the video we got here, so we'll uh.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: And we will let people know. Kevin did tell us
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: on the drive here.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I have not been able to share my thoughts, so
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: I've got plenty of thoughts from Michigan.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Kevin. This is a Buckeye.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Weekly, so please please please keep it relatively clean.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: We would appreciate that.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: And he can get some extraneous noise in the room,
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: like just start next door in the room next door
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: or something like that.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know, house keeping. Just let them come in
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: and do what they need to do. So that will
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: do it from here, and we will send it back
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: to you, Kevin. Thank you for taking us next leg.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: Hell damn crap. Okay, there we go. I've already I've
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: already said the words I need to say just to
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: make sure that we get demonetized. But thanks thanks Tom,
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: Thanks Tony. Safe travels back here to the hotel. I
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: am sitting here in Lavonia. Michigan at our hotel and
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: Juck should be joining us here shortly and we will
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: talk for the next hour plus while we wait for
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: Tom and Tony to get back about the game that
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: is coming up. So go easy on me until I
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: have Chuck here as a co host, since I am
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: doing it all on my own. And this portion of
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• 52:41
  Speaker 5: It's Friday, ladies, It's Friday. It's time to have a
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: little bit of fun, talk a little bit about the game,
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: and I've saved some questions. I want to save a
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: lot of these for when Juck arrives. People were saying,
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: glad to see me. Yeah, I'm glad to see y'all.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: Two glad to be back out on the road on
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: this one. It is cold. It is cold outside. I
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: was not standing outside with Tom and Tony. I'm sure
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: I will hear about how cold it is, and I
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: will be quick to remind them that they decided to
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: leave me at the hotel like a dog. So there
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: you go. But I seen a lot of interesting questions
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: in the queue so far, and that has been fun
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: to go through. I'm making sure them. I'm going to
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: send the link to this to Juck just to make
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: sure he joins us. Well, I mean, he is only
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: one minute late, so let's not let's not act like
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: he was like running significantly late or anything like that.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: I'm sure he has I don't even know what I'm
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: looking for at this point. Well, he'll show up when
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: he shows up, So let's you know, let's get to it.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: What are your thoughts about this game?
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: What?
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: What is? What is the one thing that Ohio State
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: needs to do to win this game? And it's more
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: than just saying, well, they need to help score them.
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: Well yeah, obviously, obviously they have to outscore them, But
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: what is the most important thing that they need to do.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, I think that they need to remember
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: that they can't win this as a knife fight in
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: a a in a coffin. They can't try to sit
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: there and run, you know, run a gap over and
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: over and over and over and over again. That's just
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: that's just not going to fly. That's just not going
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: to work. They need to be able to have a
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: little bit more of an outside threat. They can't just
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: sit there and pass it outside the numbers just you
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: know with basically the extension of their running game that
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: is not work wink Martindale's system works too well for that.
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: Juck needs to have the link. So let me let
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: me let me find this as I'm talking, So bear
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: with me here as I open up a second as
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: they open up a second browser. Let me go to
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: our Let me go to our program that we are
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: using here we are live. Let me do this invite
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: guess copy link.
• 55:02
  Speaker 15: Let me go to my email I have emailing it
• 55:06
  Speaker 15: to you now I have his special secret email that
• 55:12
  Speaker 15: I cannot share with y'all.
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: All right, let's just do this. Uh boom link boom.
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: All right, there we go. Jump should be with us
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: here momentarily. Momentarily. He is always very punctual. I was
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: not concerned that I was going to have to do
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: the show by myself, mind you, but it always helps.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: Super chat here from Ryan Dawes. Stop Marshall and make
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: Underwood miserable. Ondep on O, take shots deep and don't run.
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: Stretch to the boundary. We all love talking about stretch
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: to the boundary. That just always seems to work so well,
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: you know we we we've seen that work with zero success.
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: I agree, with stop Marshall. I mean, what is Jordan
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: Marshall status. I mean, obviously I've not seen him listed
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: on any injury reports. It looked like it was somewhat
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: of a significant shoulder injury, so I you know, is
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: this gonna be a case of like a couple of
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: years ago when they had Blake Korum play for like
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: three plays and he wasn't able to go you know,
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: Ohio State was banged up in that game as well.
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: Or will he be able to go with Underwood, You've
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: gotta You've got to find a happy medium of where
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: you can contain him versus where you can get after him.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: He's still not a very accurate pastor, I think. To
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: my point, I just want to make sure that he
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: doesn't get out there and beat me with his legs.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: I would rather I mean if if, if you, I
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: mean granted, there'll be people will say, well, Davis Warren,
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: you know Davis Warren was able to have his way.
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, okay, I'm not I'm not a I'm not
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: a lost denier. And then Juck's popping up here in
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: a second. I'm gonna wait until he gives me a
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: thumbs up from his side and I do. So let's
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: bring Juck in. Hey, Juck, welcome to the show.
• 57:00
  Speaker 13: Neuter.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: What's up, buddy, it's been a minute, it's been a minute.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: As I said, this part of the show is brought
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• 57:09
  Speaker 5: Let's go for it.
• 57:10
  Speaker 16: Yeah, buddy, diet Pepsi on this end. But we're still
• 57:13
  Speaker 16: ready to roll. Brother, I see you got the lights
• 57:15
  Speaker 16: down low. Let's party.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: Hotel rooms are not known for a great lighting, and
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: this sad desk light that they have, I've got like
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: propped up it. I mean, like legitimately, I'm doing some
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: some in the field engineering to have any light in
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: this room.
• 57:31
  Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, been there, been there, my man. So I've
• 57:35
  Speaker 16: been watching Tom and Tony. They look really nice and
• 57:38
  Speaker 16: chilly at lasta you and I are warm.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: How you feeling, my man.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: I'm feeling pretty good. We do have the Ryan Day
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: sound that we can go back to later, a clean
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: recorded version of it. But you know, we got a
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: lot lot of questions that I've already kind of been starring.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure you've got your thoughts. I've got
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: my thoughts. I've kind of held all of my thoughts
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: until this show, knowing that I was going to be
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: on for sixty ninety one hundred and twenty minutes. I
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: didn't want to dilute all of my thoughts or whatever.
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: But the question I asked our viewers, what is the
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: one thing more you know? And don't be as simplistic
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: as saying we'll score more points, I would score them.
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: What is the one thing Ohio State has to do
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: to ensure victory in this game?
• 58:26
  Speaker 16: To ensure victory, I think that this really needs to
• 58:30
  Speaker 16: be one with the defense, and I think that the
• 58:36
  Speaker 16: only way Michigan can win this game is if they
• 58:40
  Speaker 16: are good on third down. And I think that the
• 58:44
  Speaker 16: way they can be best on third down and really
• 58:46
  Speaker 16: be annoying and obnoxious is if they get those third
• 58:49
  Speaker 16: downs with Bryce Underwood running and picking up third downs
• 58:55
  Speaker 16: those extend drives when otherwise you would have had them,
• 58:58
  Speaker 16: you know, peg down, but he just picks him up
• 59:01
  Speaker 16: with his feet.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: And I think that can be canceled out.
• 59:05
  Speaker 16: With Darvell's spying, One of the questions I have is
• 59:09
  Speaker 16: are we going to see them come out with him
• 59:12
  Speaker 16: as a dedicated spy early on? Like we saw against
• 59:15
  Speaker 16: Washington with Demand Williams, and then when he quickly kind
• 59:21
  Speaker 16: of showed Washington and Demand that if they cage you,
• 59:24
  Speaker 16: you're not going to be able to get away from Marvel.
• 59:27
  Speaker 16: He's going to be able to shut you down. And
• 59:30
  Speaker 16: then they went away from it as as Washington kind
• 59:33
  Speaker 16: of realized, all right, we're not gonna be able to
• 59:34
  Speaker 16: do this, And in the second half there wasn't much
• 59:38
  Speaker 16: of that much of that at all.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: But do they come out with that look?
• 59:44
  Speaker 16: And if they do, do they have to stay with
• 59:47
  Speaker 16: that look all day?
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: But that to me is if you can you can
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: keep them under.
• 59:52
  Speaker 16: Thirty three percent conversion on third down, it's curtains they
• 59:55
  Speaker 16: can't score. And right now I'm just looking at I
• 59:58
  Speaker 16: had to do some digging, Kevin. You know we're in
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 16: the state of Ohio. Actually I probably should have called you.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 16: We don't have player prop bets, and I wanted to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 16: see the player prop bets for rushing totals and such.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: You got them, Okay, I don't have them up while
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: I got Bryce is.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 16: Yeah, sixteen point five is the rushing yards for Bryce,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 16: which was surprising. I thought it would be more than that.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 16: But they're clearly thinking that that Rvel is definitely going
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 16: to have his say regarding Rice Bryce rushing because sixteen
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 16: point five, and they're factoring in the negatives for the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 16: for the sacks in there as well as the official
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 16: total factors that in. But sixteen point five, even assuming
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 16: you get some negatives in there, like they're not thinking
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 16: he's going to be able to rush the ball much.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 16: And as I'm looking at his stats, like he doesn't
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 16: run the ball a ton, But this would be the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 16: game that I would think, all right, it's it's it's everything,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 16: ball to the wall.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: We're pulling out all the stops.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 16: If you got an opening, go pick it up, particularly
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 16: on third down, So being able to stop them, not
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 16: allowing them to convert on third down.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: To me, it is a big key that pops out
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: here for the defense.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: Right, I agree, As I'm sitting here looking through and
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: hoping this isn't a state of where you can't do
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: prop bets in state on I mean, because I know
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: that there are like I think Illinois has a rule
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: like that that you can't you can't bet on Illinois
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: or Northwestern collegiate prop bets or whatever. I just haven't
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: I haven't found it yet, but we've got we've got time.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: We've got time to get to it. We're going to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: be talking here for a minute again. I'm here, it
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: is I'm sitting here in the dark. So that's just not,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: you know, not the greatest situation popular passing props or whatever.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: Let me come on, let me see this, Julian saying
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: two thirty seven and a half passing.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 16: Okay to thirty seven. I got to take the over
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 16: on that one. I like the over on that one.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: I tend to think so too. I mean, unless you know,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: and less storms move in like twelve hours sooner than
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: they're supposed to. I really like the over in that one.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: I'm looking through FanDuel just you know, just because I'm
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: sure there's somebody sitting there like, that's not the number
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: I've got. Well, you know, different books are gonna have
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: different numbers. I'm looking through FanDuel right now. And then
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: on the other side, Bryce Underwood one fifty four and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: a half.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: One fifty four and a half.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 16: Gosh, man, they are if that's one fifty four and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 16: a half in his rushing total, if I was right
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 16: about that sixteen and a half, they are really expecting
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 16: the Buckey's defense to show out, man, because that's pretty
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 16: dog on low.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 16: The way I see this playing out perfectly for Ohio
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 16: State has him going under that.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: But man, that would be a perfect sin.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 16: I think I would probably, I think I would probably
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 16: go over that.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: I just got a.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 16: Feeling that that him and marsh are kind of gonna
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 16: get theirs, like they're kind of gonna get theirs, and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 16: I'm already braced to be okay with that. That seems
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 16: that's just a pretty low total. I mean that that's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 16: that's kind of easy, that.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: Leads into them because I'm in the passing props right now.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: Total touchdowns point five for mister Underwood.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: Point five total, wow, yes.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: Point five and just to throw it in there to
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: percolate a little bit. One and a half for Julian.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 16: One and a half for Julian, and that's that's probably
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 16: that's probably minus money.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: The the over on the one and a half is
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: minus one twenty two okay.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: The over on point five for Underwood is minus one.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 16: Forty okay, so they're probably expecting it, but they're expecting
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 16: like point seventy five for Bryce. So yeah, man, I
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 16: would go I would go over on both of those
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 16: guys for that one, I think.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: But go ahead. I'm sorry.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 16: So my score prediction here was originally I was thinking
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 16: earlier in the week, I was saying, all right, I
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 16: think Ohio State is going to get this one and
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 16: get it good, and I'm thinking thirty four to fourteen.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 16: But as the days, as time's gone on, I've kind
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 16: of lowered my expectations for the amount.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: Of ports most of the game and you know you, yeah,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: get a little tighter.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 16: Yeah, So I've gone more more to like twenty eight
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 16: to ten I think is more what I'm thinking here.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 16: So with that said, I think, yeah, Julian goes over
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 16: that one and a half and Bryce gets that one touchdown.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: I wrote my prediction like on Wednesday, and somehow somebody
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: going in and putting it in that got blown out
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: of the system. I had thirty seven fourteen Ohio State,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: and I think that I'm probably I've worked my way
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: down to like I think I'm probably like thirty one
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: ten right now. And of course there're gonna be people like, well,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: let's see it, let's see your bet slip that where
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: you got it. I do have a little three teen parlay.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: I hit my ole miss this morning. I hit ole
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: miss early with Hey, okay, I've got Texas in two
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: and a half, which is the one I feel least
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: comfortable about. And then I've got Ohio State given ten.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 16: I like your Texas bet. I like your Texas bet.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 16: I'm ready for that one tonight.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: I am too. Here the odds makers, I've moved to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: receiving props and the odds makers, let's talk to the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: Ohio State side. Jeremiah eighty and a half yards.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm eighty Does it have receptions in there too?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: Yes, I do. I that's that'll be in the next
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: That'll be the next column.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I have got to go over that eighty.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 16: I think that if let's say, for instance, you know,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 16: a lot of this is me factoring in my feeling
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 16: that Jeremiah is closer to one hundred percent.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: I well, I guess I don't.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 16: I don't really have much debase that on because to me,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 16: this whole thing with these receivers, I guess we could
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 16: go here. Like my thought has been that there was
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 16: a huge amount of extra precaution taken on Carnell, just
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 16: like Okay, yeah, you could have gone two weeks ago,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 16: but we're just gonna shut it down till Michigan.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: And there's so much less known.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 16: I feel like with the Carnell situation that I could
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 16: be totally wrong about that, you know what I mean,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 16: Like I could be way off, But I think that's
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 16: what's going on in Jeremiah. You know, whatever injury he
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 16: had going into the UCLA game was not made worse.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: Ryan Daykin, Well that's what he said.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 16: You know, he was asked, did anything he have, did
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 16: anything happen to any to make the injury worse? He
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 16: said no, And that was after he played that first
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 16: half at UCLA and he came out of that game,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 16: and that's when we saw that pronounced limp on the
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 16: sidelines and walking up the tunnel, which means, if we're
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 16: to believe him at you know, take his word at
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 16: face value, that whatever he had wrong with him was
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 16: something that was already wrong heading into that first half
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 16: that he played in the UCLA game, and it was
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 16: something that could not be made worse by playing. And
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 16: he has now had a couple of weeks to let
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 16: that rest. So I think Jeremiah, his performance in that
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 16: Ucla game was close to one hundred percent. I think
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 16: we're going to get one hundred percent of Jeremiah in
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 16: this game. So because of that, and because I don't
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 16: feel quite as confident about Carnell, I guess a little
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 16: bit less known, I would say that I'm gonna go
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 16: with Jeremiah's going to be more the focal point here,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 16: and I'm going to say if that's the case, definitely
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 16: I'm going over that eighty yards and.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: Then just to follow up, Carnell take sixty seven and
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: a half and both of these are minus one fourteen.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: So pretty even.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 16: I'm gonna take the under on the Carnell one because
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 16: I feel like, and again this is just my speculation here,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 16: I feel like maybe we see Carnell play a little less,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 16: a little more caution used with Carnell, particularly if you
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 16: get the lead early, and I think Ohio State is
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 16: going to get the lead early and just to keep
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 16: extending the lead. That's why I see this play out.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 16: So I think, you know, Carnell is sitting more than
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 16: Jeremiah in this game, and maybe Max Claire or even
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 16: a willcas Merrick is catching up, you know, getting thirty
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 16: and forty yards for those tight ends. So I'm gonna
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 16: go under with Carnell.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: Do we want to talk about the Michigan receivers or
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: we just want to stick with Ohio State and go
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: to the top.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: Oh I definitely want to talk about Marsha McCauley.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, McCaulay thirty two and a half.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 16: I'm gonna go over on McCauley. I'm gonna go over
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 16: on McCall thirty two and a half. I think that
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 16: there's gonna be a lot of attention shifted towards marsh
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 16: as we can clearly see that not only is this
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 16: kid a future star, I mean he is going to
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 16: be a dude. And you know, this is a guy
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 16: that and I've seen a lot of Ohio State fans,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 16: you know, ragging on him. He couldn't play at Ohio State.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 16: Brian Hartline wanted this dude. The recruitment fizzled out kind
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 16: of fast, as some recruitments do, but he was offered.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 16: Heartline saw the talent and he is showing that talent.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 16: This guy is a dude. He's a dude for sure,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 16: and Ohio State knows it. And they're going to try
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 16: to take away that number one option for him.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: McCauley not nearly.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 16: As polished, but he does got that size, and I
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 16: think that I'm definitely going to take the over for
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 16: him on that thirty two and a half.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: And then for marsh fifty two and a half.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 16: Man that seems pretty light too. I'm going over on
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 16: both of them.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you total those together right there, that's
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: what that's seventy eighty five yards between the two of them.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: And remember that they had one hundred what was one
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: and fifty?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 16: Yeah, so I'm asking who's getting the rest of those yards,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 16: keV Yeah, I'm going over for both of them.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: All right, let's go to player receptions right here, and
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: they're only giving me Ohio State at this point. Jeremiah
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: Smith six and a half.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Over. I think we'll see.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 16: I think we'll see a lot of short stuff to JJ,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 16: particularly early in the game, to get the feel and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 16: the way. The way I've got this envisioned in my
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 16: mind is I guess and this is kind of wishful
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 16: thinking as well. So here's my perfect scenario to start
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 16: this game, Kevin Is. It feels to me like there
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 16: are so many additions of this game that we see
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 16: both teams come out and immediately they're you know, like
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 16: a couple of boxer sizing each other up, and we're
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 16: going to run, run, on the first couple of possessions
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 16: and just see how things, you know, get our juices flow,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 16: and just get the couple of hits in and you
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 16: kind of surrender those first couple of possessions, feeling each.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: Other out, running the ball into a couple of brick walls.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 16: And I don't think that's happening with this Ohio State
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 16: offense this year. I think that there's gonna be a
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 16: lot of quick passing, quick game rpo, Julian pulling it
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 16: and throwing it early on in this game, in the
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 16: first couple of possessions, and I think that Jeremiah is
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 16: going to rack up maybe even double digit receptions in
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 16: this game because of that.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: And then Carneal four and a half that one. I'm feeling,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm not as confident as well in the
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: durability of Carnell in this game and how far they're
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: going to push him. Especially you know, you're you're playing
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: the long game here, yeah, and you're playing next week.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: If you lose, your not playing until what the twentieth,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: But you know, yeah, you got you. I tend to
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: think that I think they target him five or six times,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: but I you know, four and a half, I mean four.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: Fields are like a number to me.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 16: I'm with you. I think four feels like the numbers.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 16: So I think i'd go under on that.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: Here's what here's the ones that I'm most interested in.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: And I'm gonna look at him and talk to you
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: about I haven't looked in advance. I'm not jumping off
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: the pages or whatever. The rushing props. Yeah, all right,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: let's start with Jordan Marshall. And again I haven't been
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: told that he's not gonna play. I mean, the the
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: injury he took in the Northwestern game did not look
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: like he was gonna bounce back immediately. I mean, obviously
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: their number three running back, you know, looked pretty good.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: He looked like a load to be able to bring down.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: Obviously they're down Justice Haynes, who's been shut down for
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: the you know, for the season or whatever. But Jordan
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: Marshall eighty three and a half.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: Eighty three and half.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 16: You know what's so difficult is we've only seen Ohio
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 16: State face a really good running back. It's been since Washington, right,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 16: I mean really, and he was able to pop one,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 16: you know what I mean. So if Jordan can pop one,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 16: and we know if he's if he's healthy, he's going
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 16: to get his share of carries. And if you get
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 16: maybe one chunk of thirty in there in addition to
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 16: maybe a couple of ten yarders, I think you're at
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 16: that number relatively easy, just off quantity of carries.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go over on that one.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: I tend to think that he is, he's going to
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: carry the mail. He's going to be the one that's
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: going to keep them in this game or not in
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: this game, or whatever. I mean. I'm pulling. I'm trying
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: to pull up numbers, keep this up, watch the chat,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: everything else. So you know, Ohio State has not really
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: run into a situation of where anybody has had, you know,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: any real prolonged success against against them. So here we
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: go opponents. Game by games, Ohio State has only given
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: up one thirty at least one thirty yard rush. So
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: they give up a thirty four yarder at Washington, nobody
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: else has gone above that. What does say eighty three
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: and a half? Ohio State has not given up eighty
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: three rushing yards in a game since Purdue, when Purdue
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: had ninety two. But in three of the last four games,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: Ohio State has given up fewer than eighty three and
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: a half rushing yards. But I will say that Michigan
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: is better at running the ball than UCLA and Rutgers
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: and strangely enough Penn State this year. I mean, with
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: all the all the bally who about and Allen, I mean,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: I don't understand that one.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, that is something.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 16: Jordan Marshall made some interesting comments the other day, keV.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: You know, I was.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 16: Thinking, you put out a little bulletin board material, and
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 16: that's the last guy I would think would put it out.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 16: But I was thinking about this Buckeyes team and this
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 16: Buckeyes defense versus Buckeye teams in the past.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: This team feels so.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 16: They feel so old and professional, They feel so much
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 16: like a just like this defensive unit, like they're just
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 16: such pros and they're so uh, everything is just so
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 16: mechanic and like it's just like I don't feel the
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 16: the emotion of like something like that's gonna get in
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 16: their head or going to change the way they play.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 16: And it's kind of the way I've felt from these
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 16: guys as they've prepared for this game all week.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: It just feels so mature.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 16: It's it's so different and obviously by design with Day
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 16: and he talked the other day about you know, the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 16: way they've done it hasn't worked.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: So they're going about this like.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 16: Look, we give our best effort and we play our
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 16: very best game every time we play. There's nothing we're
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 16: going to say this week that's going to change that.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 16: We always play our best. There's no reason to heap
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 16: all that extra pressure. We understand obviously this game means
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 16: a lot more to a lot of people, but that's
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 16: not going to change the way we play if we
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 16: rah rah. This is so different and it's the biggest
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 16: thing in the world, and they're trying to just kind
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 16: of give this approach that they give every week. And
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 16: with that, I think also that you know, there's no
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 16: extra bulletin boar material it's going to change the way
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 16: they think or getting their heads.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: And I love the approach.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 16: Obviously, if it doesn't work, then I'll probably come back
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 16: and say I hated that approach, but yes, revision is yeah,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 16: But right now I feel very comfortable with the approach
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 16: and I really like the way they've gone about this.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 16: And when you listen to guys like Sonny Styles and
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 16: Caleb Downs who listening to these guys sounds like listening
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 16: to too thirty two year old NFL best.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: They're in their second contract in the league. I mean
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: that you know already own like you know, eight subway franchises.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, already already planning for AARP. I mean
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: you know that. Yeah, they do have a sound of
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: a veteran.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 16: And you listen to those guys and it's just like, man, yeah,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 16: there's no uh, it's just such.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: A professional sounding unit.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 16: It's all right, we give up a play okay, next
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 16: play up Like it's I don't want to see emotionless,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 16: but emotion doesn't get them off their game.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: We'll put it like that, all right.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: So I told you Jordan Marshall, we'll get We'll get
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: back to to Bryce Underwood in the second. But if
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: I told you which I have Jordan Marshall eighty three
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: and a half, what would you say, bo Jackson's number
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: is I'm gonna ask you before I give it to.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 16: You, Okay, So if that is Jordan's number, I would
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 16: say that they would anticipate Bo's would probably have a
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 16: fewer quantity of carries, so he's definitely gonna be less,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 16: but I don't think much less. So why don't we
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 16: go with seventy eight?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: Are you a witch? Seventy eight and a half? Oh,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: you got to have the hook there. You gotta have
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: the hook. I mean you don't want to have to
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: push there. So are you a witch? I mean yeah,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: I was. That's impressive.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 16: Okay, well, I'm sure that'll be the only time that happens.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 16: But if Bo's is seventy eight, CAV, I feel like
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 16: I might take the under on that. I don't know.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: I just don't know, man. You know, it's like we've
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: had this rotation.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 16: Do you if bo doesn't get it going early, do
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 16: you go to Isaiah West?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: Do you go to Jimmy the People's.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: I think to the touchdown Vulture CJ. Donaldson's going to
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: be in there. I think they just put the ball
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: on the ground.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, well, that's another thing.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 16: Yeah, that's another thing, keV, because with the fumble last week,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 16: it's just like, okay, are they gonna re you know,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 16: like we cannot lose this turnover battle even if it's sad,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 16: if we got to sacrifice the juice of bow running
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 16: the ball, we trust Donaldson with the ball in his
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 16: hands much more. And then again, when we talk about
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 16: Julian and maybe another one of the massive keys here
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 16: that Tony's been kind of harping on all week, if
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 16: you keep Julian's saying clean, you win the game. And
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 16: obviously we know Donaldson is the best pass blocker of
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 16: the group. He's got the most experienced, he's the biggest load.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 16: But having him in there when whenever you are gonna
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 16: be and of course these would be passing yards, but whenever,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 16: whenever Julian's gonna be passing obvious passing down situations, you
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 16: take away the opportunity of having Bo as that checkdown receiver.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 16: And he's great at that, same with People's and Isaiah
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 16: West has looked good at that as well. So you
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 16: lose a little bit of that burst. But you need
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 16: the protection of Donaldson to make sure you're keeping him clean.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 16: And uh with Barham and Derek like those guys can
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 16: those guys can rush the passers. So I think that
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 16: we're gonna see more Donaldson than we're accustomed to to be.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 10: Honest, I do. I think we're gonna see.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: I think at the end of the day, Ryan Day
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: wants to put the ball in the hands of players
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: that he trusts. And while there are limitations to what CJ.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: Donaldson's game is. He's not a breakaway type of runner.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: How we haven't even necessarily seen a make you miss
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: type of runner. He's a run you over type of guy.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: But I think that we will see Donaldson eat up
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: a couple more carries than maybe anticipated, just based on
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: that trust factor. I agree, That's how I feel.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: I agree, I don't I hate it, but I agree we.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: Don't have to like it. It's just the reality of
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: you know, it's a reality of what the situation is.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: And you know, while you know, while I think we
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: all would like to see you know this more much more,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: you know, prolific, exciting type of offense, at the end
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: of the day, it comes down to winning. You know,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 5: you got to win the damn game, and then the game.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 16: When the game, When the game, when the game, in
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 16: the game, the mantra all year man, win the game,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 16: win the game, by the way, keV to that win
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 16: the game. The mantra of win the game and we
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 16: know how Ryan Days played this all year long. I
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 16: wanted to ask you because I had some people asking
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 16: me in the chat earlier and I did a little
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 16: show kind of answering my some of my comments. But
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 16: this came up several times that people really want to
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 16: see and I would love to see as well. Ohio
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 16: State blow these guys off the field if they get
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 16: it rolling.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: But I don't think.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 16: I don't think that that's gonna be what's gonna happen.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 16: I think if they get a comfortable lead, they're running
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 16: the clock out, pulling the dudes and and we're you know, like,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 16: I don't think they're they're going to put the pedal
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 16: to the medal. As much as Ryan Day would love to,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 16: you know, like you said, playing next week in a
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 16: in a one verse two matchup here, and he's been
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 16: talking NonStop about the hardware. Yeah you got a hardware game.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 16: He gets some gold pants on the line here. They
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 16: want that Big ten championship. They won all three all
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 16: three goals checked off this year, right, and they're not
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 16: going to sacrifice potential injury or you know, something stupid
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 16: just to try to blow them off the field.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: But boy, would it be satisfying.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: I remember a year at Ohio Stadium that they were going.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: I mean they had Michigan beat like beat six ways
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: from Sunday, still had their starters out and lost one
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: of their offensive linemen as they were going toward the
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: north end of the stadium, and you know, you just
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: you just can't. You can't lose sight of the goal.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: You win the game by one point, win the game
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: by one hundred points, just win the game. I mean,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: you know, we can go back to the old story
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: about we're gonna hang hang one hundred on you guys
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: or whatever. Fine, whatever, but you know, at this point,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: this is just one of the steps on the path
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: is winning this game, and then you get to Indianapolis,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: presumably against Indiana you gotta take care of that, and
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: then then it's three games in the playoffs or whatever.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: So you can't sit there and say, well, we're gonna
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: you know, we're just gonna empty the chamber at this
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: point and then we're gonna have back to the old
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: BCS days, you know, forty eight days until the championship
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: game or whatever. Make everything right. I mean, you're you're
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: you're back out there in a week. I mean, you period.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, for sure though I do know, yeah, everybody
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 16: would love it, and it still could happen. You know,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 16: you could just very naturally in the flow of the game,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 16: break this puppy wide open.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 16: You know, when it comes to turnovers here, there's there's
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 16: a decent possibility that that you win this turnover battle
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 16: by a couple as we've seen Bryce is not you know,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 16: he has a couple of multi interception games on the year.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 16: One of those goes back to the house, or you
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 16: get one, you get a short field, you pick up
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 16: a quick touchdown, and you know there there is definitely
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 16: a route where Ohio State wins by twenty one, which
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 16: that's blowing them off the field in my opinion. You know,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 16: we've seen it get away from us at the stadium
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 16: here going into the fourth quarter, close and all of
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 16: a sudden you lose by twenty in the just in
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 16: the fourth quarter.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: So you know it can happen without trying.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: Let me get one more rushing prop and then we
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: got TD scores, and I'm sure we've got some other things.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, again, we're we have we have the Ryan
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: Day interview that we're going to replay at some point
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: we've got b role that television term. We've got b
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: roll of the players getting off the bus whatever, you know,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: So we'll you know, we have all of that in
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: the queue that we will try to get to. But
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: Bryce Underwood's rushing total sixteen and a half six, I mean,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: of course, you know it comes down to sack yardage.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: I mean it's all sack adjusted and what does what
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: does all of that mean? But you know, it doesn't
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 5: sound like they're expecting it to be a huge dose
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: of of Bryce Underwood being you know, making explosive plays.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: You know, maybe moving the chains a couple of times,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: things of that nature. But you know, going back to
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 5: you know, earlier discussion about Washington, they you know, they
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: were able to keep Demand Williams very much in in check.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: He couldn't do anything. I think he was negative after
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 16: Uh, off the top of my head, I because they
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 16: caged him and he kept, you know, the sacks kept
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 16: coming from inside. It was it was Caden and Kmak
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 16: and I honestly kept Those are the keys to me
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 16: of this defense this week.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: Caden and up the gut.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 16: I think they're gonna I think it's a big mismatch
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 16: I think we're gonna see them cage Bryce in those two.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 16: You know, the more he moves around in the pocket,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 16: it just came Ack and Cayden Curry are gonna eat.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: These guys up from the inside.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 16: Whenever they move Cayden on the inside, man, that's just
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 16: it's it's hell. And I think we'll see that they're
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 16: not gonna have an easy time. Doublin Kack, Wh's gonna
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 16: leave time alone singled up a lot, and it's just
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 16: gonna be a disaster for Michigan. From the inside of
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 16: the Ohio State defensive line. On the opposite direction, I
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 16: think Michigan's got the advantage coming from the edge on.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 16: You know, Phil Daniels, I look at the Wisconsin game
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 16: and he just had a really rough time one on
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 16: one on an island in pass blocking, and that is
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 16: kind of one of my big fears of the game
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 16: is him versus bar Hammer more And you know, even
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 16: Serraveld had a rough time in that Wisconsin game on
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 16: an island early on, getting beat inside multiple times. So
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 16: that right there to mean Ohio States inside of the
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 16: defensive line them on the outside, I think that's where
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 16: the pressure is gonna come from each from each team
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 16: that direction.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: I want to read this market X and we'll get
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: to any time touchdown scores. IGB, Edrick Houston, and Philip
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: Daniels need to control themselves. They're all going to get
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: they are going to look to get under their skin.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: I've always felt that under Harbaugh and then continuing under
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: shrown More, there's always at least one or two syops
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: psychological operations to those of you who don't read Tom
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: Clancy books, Live Custler books, things like that to get
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: in the minds of Ohio State, you know, and we've
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: seen it through the years. And I GB, Edric and
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: Philip are all very emotional type of players, and it
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: would I would not be shocked to see them try
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 5: anything they can to pick up a cheap fifteen or
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: things along those lines of really getting in there. And
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: it's not like it's like, well, Michigan's like the only
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 5: team's ever tried to do this. It just seems that
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: Michigan is a team that has been.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 17: Able to sigh off Ohio State before absolutely man, whether
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 17: it's you know, shoes or grabbing somebody where you shouldn't
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 17: grab them, untying stuff, and I mean they're just constantly
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 17: with the nonsense like that, and a great point to
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 17: pick out those three guys.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 16: I mean, they really are. I'd probably throw I'd probably
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 16: throw Jermaine Matthews in there with it. Those are the
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 16: guys that are, you know, loose cannons. Loose cannons for sure.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 16: But then at the same time, Kevin, sometimes we see
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 16: it from a guy that we'd never expected from, like
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 16: g Scott doing something stupid, you know what I mean,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 16: somebody trying.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: To make Trevion Henderson against Texas.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: There you go, right, what is that?
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: I mean? I still do this day. I think I
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: know what happened, but you know, I don't know for sure.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: I tried to talk to Trey after the fact, after
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 5: a lot of stuff, and he just kind of hemmed
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: and hawes like, well, shucks, I don't I don't think
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: I need to really relive that story. But yeah, you
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: just don't know. But all right, anytime touchdown score bo
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: Jackson at minus one.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 16: Minus one forty, yeah, I'm going with it, let's say.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 16: But well, no, you know what I think that's not no,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 16: I'm going the other direction.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: I'm going the other direction exclusively.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 16: And somebody even busted my chops here in the chat
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 16: about this, because they know how I feel about about
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 16: the touchdown vulture when Bo does all the work to
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 16: get down. But based on Bo's fumble, I honestly believe
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 16: Bo is a better goal line back than Donaldson. But
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 16: based on that fumble last week, I think it's gonna
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 16: be Donaldson that that's gonna take those. So Bo's gonna
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 16: have to score from from ten or fIF fifteen out,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 16: which could happen, but I'm gonna bet against that rather
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 16: than with that.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: Well, then I'll jump to CJ. Donaldson. We're not necessarily
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 5: going in order here. CJ plus one sixty, wow.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: Vale bet there. I'm going the other way man, Yeah,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: I'm taking that one.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: Jeremiah Smith minus one oh five, So.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 16: A coin flip on a JJ touchdown, I'm taking it.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: I'm going with the man.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 5: Your highest number for a Michigan player is Jordan Marshall
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: at plus one ten.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: Mm.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 16: So if I only think they're gonna score one touchdown,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 16: I think it's probably I think I would probably go
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 16: with a touchdown pass to Marsha McCully. I'd say, Mark,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 16: I'm gonna go with marsh Yeah.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: When we'll get to them here in a second. Carneal
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: tap plus one twenty five.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 16: H I like the number. I think i'd take it. Yeah,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 16: I think i'd throw a couple bucks on that one
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 16: if I was if I was allowed to do such
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 16: naughty things in the state of Ohio, I think I
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 16: would throw a few dollars on.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: Yes, Carl, all I have to do is jump in
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: your car across the state or whatever. I mean, that
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: seems like a lot of workers. Georgia Tech going for
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: a game time touchdown and it falls to the ground.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: Georgia wins. All right, So which number do you like better?
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 5: You brought up Marsh McCauley. I've got McCauley at plus
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: three sixty, and I've got Marsh at plus two seventy.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 16: So I'm going with big Donovan McCauley goal line touchdown
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 16: at plus three sixty. And I think that is a
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 16: pretty I mean, you know, that's a good number for
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 16: potentially them tossing him one up if they get down there,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 16: and him coming down with it at his his his length.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: He is just a long dude. He's not Calvin Johnson.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 16: I had to I had a little war of the
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 16: words with one of their guys, one of the Michigan
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 16: podcasters early earlier on in the season, in the preseason,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 16: they were just going nuts about what mccaully was gonna do.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 16: And and they don't just give the number one to
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 16: him for no reason.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, dude, obviously they they must have known something that.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 16: Yeah, so they so they gave him the number one
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 16: because he's gonna be the next Braylen Edwards. And and
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 16: he's built like Calvin Johnson, and they know Calvin Johnson intimately,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 16: he's from you know, he's a Detroit player. Uh, it's
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 16: not panned out for them like that, but I could
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 16: see that happening. I could also see the marsh happening.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 16: I could see Marsh scoring from a little further out,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 16: but I could see mccaulley scoring from if they get
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 16: down down to the goal line. But I would take
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 16: I would take the mccaullay bet just based on those
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 16: because I think that's that's a pretty nice little payout
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 16: if you can make that happen.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: Here's the one that I find to be. And then
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: I want to talk about the two defenses, because both
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: the defenses are on the board. But I want to
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: talk about this one. This is the one that they
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: have Brandon Ennis and Mylon Graham at the same number,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: both at plus three thirty. Milon Graham had a bad
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: week of practice by all accounts last week, didn't play
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: until the second half, you know, was lightly used. I mean,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: is that just you know, is that a catch all
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 5: type of situation of Tate's not right, Jeremiah may not
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 5: be right. So we got to work our way down
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: the list. And how is it that Mylin and b
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 5: I have the same number? I you know, based on
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: what I've seen through eleven games and usage and everything else,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 5: that one just feels really odd to me. That one.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't know what the thought process is there.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 16: I'm totally with you. I mean, you look at in
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 16: the UCLA game, Mylon had seven targets, three receptions, and
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 16: that seven targets was more targets than he had the
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 16: entire year. I think it was double the entire targets
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 16: he had over the whole year.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: Caught just three balls looked out of sorts.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 16: Then follows that up with a not great week of
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 16: practice heading into the Rutgers game. He doesn't even get
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 16: to play to the second half. He's not seeing the field.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 16: I don't think he's see in the field, Kevin, even
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 16: if Carnell's out, even if Carnell doesn't play, I think
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 16: it's Quincy Porter and not Mylin, because I just don't
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 16: think they have a lot of faith in Mylon where
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 16: he's at right now in his development. To be honest,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 16: I was kind of, I don't want to say, shocked
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 16: by it, but I would have expected him to be
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 16: a little further along than what he's showing us. And
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 16: I think Ryan Day kind of gave it away. He's
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 16: been about three weeks now. When he was talking about
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 16: he was asked about Mylon, because you know, Mylon's been
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 16: a big topic of conversation all year long for the
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 16: people who are not happy with what's coming out of
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 16: the slot. Why catch you mean mylint of the slot
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 16: and put him in over Bibi is not electric enough,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 16: he doesn't have enough juice, The production's not there, and
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 16: Mylon Graham could do better. And then Brian Day was
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 16: asked about him and he said, basically, you know, he's
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 16: been practicing a little better lately. And when you hear
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 16: that about a guy, it's like, Okay, if that's the
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 16: first thing he's saying. It means that he was not
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 16: practicing up the standard before. That's first thing that comes
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 16: to my mind. And now you see him and you
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 16: see him in action, and it certainly looked like, you know,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 16: in some of those routes are option routes for the
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 16: receiver when he gets out which way he's gonna go.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 16: They clearly weren't on the same page. We know that,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 16: but you could also say, you know, maybe he wasn't
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 16: in the right spot all the time. And then Julian
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 16: was throwing balls a little bit like he's used to
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 16: throwing him to Carnell and JJ and they got that rhythm.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 16: It was clear they didn't have them. But Carnell or
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 16: Mylon just did not look super impressive. I mean as
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 16: an athlete, yes, the guy looks like a year out there,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 16: but as a receiver still got a long way to go.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 16: And Tony and I were having the discussion about this
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 16: last week, the fact that Brian Hartline is now you know,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 16: God is got his offensive coordinator duties and he did
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 16: not want this to happen. Early on, he was talking
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 16: in the year like, you know, they're going to get
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 16: the exact same coaching they always have. I just don't
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 16: see how that's possible when you pick up, Oh, I'm
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 16: also the offensive coordinator now, and maybe that has been
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 16: something that's contributed to Maybe he might have been developing
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 16: at a faster clip if heartline was one hund on that.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 16: But yeah, that's my long winded answer of no, I
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 16: don't think that he is going. I would not bet
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 16: that for mylin, but I might take a flyer on
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 16: that bi because a lot of times we see guys
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 16: score in this game that don't usually score.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: Remember welcome, Welcome to the league, Chris Olabe. He had
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 5: two touchdowns, you know, in his like in his first
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: real action or whatever. So you know, I'm sitting here,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: I'm looking down here. There's not really anybody that's surprising
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: on the Ohio State offensive side. You've got Julian saying
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 5: at plus eight hundred, I could see I could see that.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, I would like to see maybe Lincoln Keenholt's
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 5: number on you know, on on on a on a
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 5: tush push for him or whatever. But if you had
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: an Alexander Hamilton burning a hole in your pocket and
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: you had to put ten dollars on one of these
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: two Ohio State defense scoring seven plus seven to fifty
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 5: or the Michigan defense scoring plus nine to fifty.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 16: OSU defense all day, all day. This guy's a turnover
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 16: machine waiting to happen, man, And when he gets rattled,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 16: it's it's it's really gonna happen. And I think that
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 16: these guys are going to rattle him. I mean, I'm
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 16: surprised that's plus seven to fifty.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 16: I don't usually get to see these kind of props anymore.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 16: It's been a couple of years now, so maybe that's
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 16: a normal number, but I'd have thought it'd been a
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 16: lot higher than that. But on that Lincoln keen Holes topic, keV,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 16: what did you think of the package that they had
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 16: in last week? And do you think we're going to
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 16: see that package?
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 5: I am not a big fan of making wholesale personnel
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: choices changes like that, but if you feel that you
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: can't score with the personnel you've got, I mean, the
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: goal is to score points. But you sit there and
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, I understand, you show it and you have
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: them throw to give them something to think about. This
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: is just not a we're going to come in and
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: we're going to just try and shove them up the gut,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: you know, through a gap or whatever. But I don't
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: know if I don't know if I've seen execution on
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: the keen Holes package yet to the point of where
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm cool, I'm comfortable with this. I mean,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 5: it's been an adventure in babysitting every single time it's happened.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, if you're going to put him in there,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 16: and I guess the first play it was, it was
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 16: I mean, the game was still close for starters, and
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 16: it was fourth and two and you're rolling him out left.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 16: You got three tight ends split out wide, and he
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 16: doesn't notice. Julanni wide open in front of him, drops
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 16: a dime. But again he's rolling out left and he's cold.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 16: Then on the play he rolled out right, he was
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 16: lates and behind to b I and you know, again
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 16: he's coming in cold, so he's not going to be
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 16: in rhythm, but down by the goal line running. I
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 16: kind of I kind of like it because then you know,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 16: you got that option that he you know, he still
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 16: can't pass and it's going to be a short throw
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 16: if they tossed that in there. I wouldn't be stunned.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 16: It wouldn't stun me. Keith Michael has a comment in here.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 16: Donaldson is not what OSU needs in this game. Donaldson
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 16: playing a lot means day is coaching not to lose
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 16: as opposed to coaching to win the game. Jackson is
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 16: a difference. Man, your coach to win. What are your
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 16: thoughts in that comic, Kelen.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 5: You's got to win the damn game. I mean, Donaldson
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 5: is Donaldson is your touchdown vulture. He's your Pete Johnson
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 5: to Archie Griffin. You know, he's the guy I'm giving
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 5: it too inside the five and hopefully it's not getting
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 5: the third down because you're getting two minus one and
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 5: then four at that point. But I don't I don't
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 5: have an issue with I mean, I don't. I don't
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 5: want to see CJ. Donaldson on you know, first and
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 5: first and ten at the fifty. That's not necessarily what's there.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 5: But also you we were not privy to seeing every
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: snap in practice. I haven't seen a snap of practice
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 5: since fall camp. So did we even see fall camp?
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I even Yeah, I think we
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: saw the beginning of that. I don't even remember. But
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: The point is, I don't see it as a coaching
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 5: not to lose. You're coaching to put up more points
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 5: than your opponent. This is not a case of a
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 5: chicken bleep punt, you know, on your plus thirty seven
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 5: or something like that. This is a case of putting
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 5: yourself in the best position to win. I don't know
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 5: if a true freshman in Bo Jackson. I don't know
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 5: if a true freshman in Isaiah West is going to
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: be the best scenario. This is the type of game
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 5: where we see errors of errors of effort. I'm trying
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 5: to prolong the play, so I'm gonna get stood up
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 5: and I'm going to get the ball strip because I'm
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 5: trying to pick up two more yards. I think that
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 5: your veteran players, especially as CJ. Donaldson, who's been to
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: the Fair and seen the Bear, in a lot of regards,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 5: I don't have as much of an issue there, but
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: there are going to be certain plays where I don't
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 5: necessarily want to see him in certain personnel packages.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 16: I think that been to the Fair and seeing the
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 16: Bear is maybe my favorite one lineer you've ever dropped.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 5: We haven't done enough shows. And of course, as I said,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 5: Today's show is brought to you by Sunny d. As
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: long as I keep drinking breaking these, I'll come up
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: with better ones. Somebody was asking what the Claire odds were.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: I had them. They were plus two to fifty, plus
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: two to fifty on anytime Max Lars.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 16: I mean, he hasn't scored many touchdowns this year, but
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 16: we know that Michigan has a proclivity to allow the
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 16: tight ends that they face the best games of their season,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 16: so certainly a spot that they are weak at. And
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 16: to see a Max Claire touchdown from about twenty yards out,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 16: I think that is a you know, that might be.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 4: Worth a couple of bucks.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 16: I feel like now that I'm betting on way too
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 16: many Buckeyes to score touchdowns, though, but I feel like
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 16: that's a pretty nice bet.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 14: Man.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: It's kind of enticing. Plus two to fifty.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 5: Here we go. Team yards. Let me look at this
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 5: over under on Ohio State team yards three seventy nine
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: and a half.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: Three seventy nine and a half field.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 5: That feels low. That feels really low to me.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 16: I would say four hundred feels like a good number
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 16: to me. I think four hundred if things are clicking well,
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 16: four hundred is easily attainable. I think four hundred. Yeah,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 16: I'm gonna go over on that one.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to get the Michigan one up here. Let
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 5: me cancel this move all selections. It's all right, here
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 5: we go. It's eighty eight and a half for Michigan.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 16: Wow, they like the Buckeyes with one hundred more yards
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 16: to eighty eight. So Ohio State has only been allowing
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 16: two hundred and six yards a game this year. The
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 16: last five opponents they've played, they've been twenty to thirty
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 16: point favorites, So that really skews that number to eighty eight.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 16: I'm gonna say a under yeah, I'm gonna go with under.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 7: I don't.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 5: I don't. I don't disagree on that one either. Let
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 5: me keep going here though. I don't care about these
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 5: alt lines. Game specials. Game specials love these Michigan not
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 5: to score a touchdown in the game. Plus six fifty.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 16: Oh, that is one. That is one worth a couple
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 16: of dollars.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 4: keV.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 5: Don't you think I only have two dollars in my
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 5: in my fan duel right now? The one the book
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 5: that I have money in is bet three sixty five
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 5: and we don't. You don't get it in Michigan.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 16: So if we're trying to, you know, take that two
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 16: bucks and turn it into enough bucks to be worth
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 16: playing with that, with that without investigating more money.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 4: I think this is the bet to put that two
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: bucks on keV. Yeah, enough payout to make it worth it.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 16: And I could certainly see them kicking a few field
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 16: goals early couple of uh stalled drive before Ohio States
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 16: score a lot, and then after that field goals are
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 16: off the board because they're down and they're only gonna
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 16: go for touchdowns but they're not gonna get them, and
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 16: then they're stuck.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 4: They've scored six points and that's the ballgame.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 16: It's thirty four to six buck guys win, no touchdowns
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 16: for them.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 5: Here's here's the question. I see the number, I already
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 5: know it. Flip the bet to Ohio State is what
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 5: is the number for Ohio State not to score a touchdown?
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 16: For Ohio State not to score a touchdown? Plus fourteen hundred.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: Plus twenty seven hundred wow plus twenty seven hundred. Yeah.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 5: So that and that's not the biggest reach of all
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 5: of these team specials. The biggest team special reach is
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 5: each team to score one plus touchdown in each quarter
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 5: plus six thousand.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 16: Man, that's a stretch one touchdown apiece in each quarter.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 16: I mean we're looking at jeuz Yeah what I would
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 16: you know. One of my one of the talking points
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 16: this week that that I've been having is, obviously we
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 16: know what the game plan is for Michigan. Okay, how
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 16: do we beat Ohio State. Well, we want to you know,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 16: limit their possessions. We want to run clock, you know,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 16: slow the game to you know what I mean, like
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 16: slow the game downside, all the all the things you
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 16: usually hear from teams when they play Ohio State. And
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 16: that's obviously how any underdog wants to play Ohio State.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 4: But Ohio State has not.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 16: Really cared against a lot of these underdogs because they
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 16: just don't have the firepower to beat them. And you know,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 16: you look at the even the Penn State game and
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 16: Ryan Day was kind of lamenting at halftime that you know,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 16: you you know, you go to halftime, it feels like
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 16: you're you're winning, and all of a sudden, there's a
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 16: fumble right before halftime they score, and now you know,
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 16: it's just a very minimal lead because so few possessions
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 16: and that was just Ohio State's fourth possession that they
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 16: had fumbled in the first half there right before halftime
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 16: for Penn State. The Penn State converted, and it magnifies
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 16: how much that turnover matters. They've been having a lot
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 16: of games recently, playing very, very slow and getting just
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 16: eight offensive possessions out of the game.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: Now do they speed it up?
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: Do they try to speed it up?
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 5: This is talking about when it's time to turn it on.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: It's time to turn it on.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 16: Yeah, So that's what I want to know, is that
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 16: what we're going to see. Are we going to see
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 16: it turned on? To try to get a couple get
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 16: to ten possessions this game so that if you know,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 16: if by chance there is a turnover, it's not as
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 16: magnified with just these eight possessions they've been playing.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 5: I'll be interested. People are wanting to know, like hour
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 5: by hour weather, so I'm gonna I'm trying to I'm
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: trying to pull up the hourly just because it's supposed
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: to be an inch of snow during the day and
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 5: then three to five at night. Turn off ad blocker,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 5: Come on, I pause on this site. There we go
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 5: all right, hourly, it's not supposed the light snow is
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: supposed to start about three o'clock. The real snow is
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 5: supposed to start about five o'clock. So I think we're
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 5: I think we're going to be fine weather. It's not
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 5: going to be an excuse.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 16: Ralph go Blue has a common I want to address Kevin.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 16: Ralph go Blue says, if OSU wins, do they plant
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 16: the flag, which I'm okay with. Texas did it in
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 16: ann Arbor and everyone understood it's football, beat him and
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 16: they can't plant the flag.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 4: And this is Ralph.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 16: Now, Ralph is not saying the full story here. Texas
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 16: planted the flag after the Michigan players were all off
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 16: of the field. Had Texas planted the flag when the
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 16: Michigan players were out on the field, there would have
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 16: been an altercation. And Ralph is trying to insinuate that
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 16: what the Ohio State players did by not allowing the
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 16: Michigan players to plant the flag without an altercation was
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 16: was not right of the Ohio State players. They were
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 16: one hundred percent within their right. Like you lose the game,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 16: so what you're just allowed to disrespect me any way
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 16: you want to, because you beat.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 5: Me and make a sandwich and punch my life while
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 5: you're at it.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take my wife out because you beat me.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 16: No, if the Michigan players were on the field when
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 16: Texas did that Bush League thing.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: There would have been a problem. There would have been
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 4: an absolute problem.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 16: So no, Ralph trying to make his boys look good
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 16: in Ohio State will not do that.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: I guarantee Ohio State will not do that.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 5: No, No, there's not a chance. There's I think that
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 5: I think that.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 7: CJ.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 5: Barnett and the rest of the rest of the staff
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: would probably tackle an Ohio State player before they would
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 5: to ever make it to the fifty before that. Just
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 5: you don't need to. You don't need to you know,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 5: pull pull that type of move or anything like that.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm Ohio say basketball having a really cold
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 5: start right now, down thirteen to four to pit So
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 5: don't flip to ESPN two if you don't want to
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 5: be frustrated with that one. But this is not a
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 5: basketball show. Yeah, I don't like flag planting or whatever. Look,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 5: I'm not anti running up the score, you know, do
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 5: better or anything like that, but I do have there
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 5: are limits, and I don't like the flag planting or whatever.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: And I know, I know there are a lot of
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 5: people that want, you know, a measure of redemption. You know,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 5: the universe has to be equal. We need to have
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 5: balance to the force and everything else and young Anakin,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 5: but don't don't even mess with it. Don't even mess
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 5: with it, don't you know, don't get into that. I mean,
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 5: just you know, get there, hug your teammates, get on
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 5: the bus, and get home.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 4: So last year.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 16: There was that awesome game Penn State went out and
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 16: played at USC and it was a great game and
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 16: Penn State ends up winning the game late and they
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 16: went one of their guys went to plant the flag
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 16: and James Franklin grabbed him, and that the cameras were
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 16: on James Franklin and he was like, no, no, no, no,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 16: absolutely not.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 4: James Franklin takes the pull.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 16: So I came on and I played the clip and
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 16: I talked about this is before Michigan did that at
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 16: Ohio State. But they had done it, of course previously,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 16: but I said, this is a I got a lot
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 16: of respect for James Franklin for doing this because that's
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 16: a bush League move. So then of course Michigan does that,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 16: and there's the big you know, hoopla, and they're all
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 16: coming in in my comments and in all of our comments,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 16: and we would never say this if the roles were reversed.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 4: So I had that clip that I pulled up.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 16: Like I've been consistent here, this is a bush league
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 16: thing to do. And I would be irritated if Ohio
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 16: State did it because it's bush league. But they were
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 16: trying to make that make it sound like that law
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 16: was something we were all behind, which was total hogwash
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 16: and a bunch of nonsense.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sorry. I thought I thought you were going
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 5: somewhere else with I was reading comments or whatever. Yeah,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 5: I just you know, when win the game, win with class,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 5: lose with class. But let's let's not see what losing
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 5: with class looks like. Just when just win the damn game.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 5: That's that's what this comes down to. Jordan Lewis seven exactly.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: I love the strong faith in our in our guys.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm expecting. I mean, you know, everybody wants
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 5: to talk about this this series. You know, it's they're
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: relatively clean games or whatever. I mean, the hits are
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 5: harder or whatever. You know, I still, as I said,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 5: I still truly believe in the sye op whole whole theory.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 5: I'm you're not You're never going to move me off
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 5: of that. But you know, as Juck had mentioned earlier,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 5: this is like a team full of veterans. They're not
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 5: going they're not going to fall for the banana and
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 5: the tailpipe, which, for you kids out there was a
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 5: great scene from Beverly Hills Cop the original one back
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 5: in the eighties. They're not they're not going to fall
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 5: for this stupid stuff. They're gonna just get out there
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 5: and do what they need to, uh, just to get
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 5: into here. Uh, is Gus Johnson calling the game? Yes,
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 5: this will be a Gus and Joel game. I mean,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 5: I think we've kind of hit most of the bets
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 5: right here, so we've kind of gone through it. But
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 5: you you're gonna talk me into betting that the the
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 5: the two dollars, I may bet it on the watch
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 5: McCall it on. Uh the no touchdowns, you know, the
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 5: no Michigan touchdowns. Why not?
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 4: That's good. That's a good payout. I like that one.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, we're we're doing it. Let me go back
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 5: to bet slip let me pull this other one off.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: All right, it's already logged me out. It just hates me. Whatever.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 16: Luke Dojo says, Julian should get those touchdowns for his
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 16: Heisman campaign before Indiana. I do like Lincoln though, so
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 16: I don't think that that will be uh anything that
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 16: will be factored into the equation. But I do want
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 16: to get into that talk for just a second as
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 16: we look at the Heisman Trophy. Obviously, the narrative that
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 16: Julian's insane completion percentage is just due to his alien
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 16: wide receivers was certainly pushed by the last two games,
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 16: and his completion percentage wasn't as high, so a lot
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 16: of people kind of dunking on that and saying, you know, see,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 16: we told you, et cetera. But I still think, despite
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 16: kind of the way the momentum has really slowed for
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 16: him in this that if Ohio State wins this game,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 16: and you can, first off, there's a lot of people
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 16: out there that haven't really seen Julian saying since the
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 16: Texas game. So if he is on point in this
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 16: game and Ohio State wins and he has a really
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 16: good game, I still think there's a very good chance
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 16: that you can go into the Big Ten Championship and
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 16: if he outduels Mendoza, that he could still take this
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 16: award home.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. In most I mean, the vast majority
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 5: of Heisman voters don't get their ballots in until the
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 5: final forty eight hours before their due, So you know,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: I think that you know, it's very much in play.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, people are going to sit there and remember, Okay,
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: well he didn't look so great in the in the
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 5: last game without his alien wide receivers or whatever. But
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 5: you know, with that being said, I mean if he
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 5: comes out there and you know, the one to seventy six,
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 5: but he still had two touchdowns out there, I mean,
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 5: I think that if he comes out and hits the
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: numbers that that the bets have and everything else and
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 5: then out duels Mendoza, I mean, that's what it's gonna
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 5: come down to it. I think with Jeremiah missing a
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 5: couple of games, that's going to help dilute that We're
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 5: not going to see the delution of of of the vote. Well,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 5: I'm only going to bet for I'm only going to
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 5: vote for one Ohio state vote or player. I'm only
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 5: gonna it's it's Julian or it's it's JJ. I think
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 5: at this point all the focus now can go into
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 5: the Julian campaign. It's eight quarters. It's eight quarters at
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 5: this point of football against two ranked teams. One of
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 5: the I mean, and of course the next four quarters
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 5: don't mean anything off. Ohio State poops the bed against Michigan,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 5: But you know, you sit there and you do that
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 5: on that stage in a game that kind of sits
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 5: in its own window. I mean it Julian. I mean,
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 5: I think Julian wins the Heisman at that point.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 16: Yeah, that's a really good point that Jeremiah. Yeah, he's
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 16: kind of faded off here, missing the games.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: Easy.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 16: Jay uh says, do you guys think that if Ryan
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 16: Day loses this game, he'll be historically remembered as that
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 16: guy that couldn't beat Michigan Like Cooper, I would say,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 16: like number one, if he loses it, number one, it's
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 16: not his last shot. He's he's got probably have several more,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 16: at least I hope he has several more shots at it.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 16: But I'll also say that I think that being the
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 16: fact that he is a national championship winning coach, now
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 16: that'll be the first thing he's remembered from and uh
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 16: number two.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 4: Cooper.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 16: Cooper was at the press conference on Tuesday, keV and
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 16: I and I looked over and I was like, oh
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 16: my gosh, there's Coop. And then I was like, oh
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 16: my gosh, it's Michigan week and there's Coop. And it
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 16: was just like memories.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, people need people don't need to remember this about,
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 5: you know. And I like John Cooper and I covered
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 5: John Cooper my first go round in Ohio State media
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 5: or whatever. So none of this comes from a place
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 5: of malice, none of this comes from a bad place.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 5: It's all come This is all with love, peace and love,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 5: peace and love. Cooper not only couldn't beat Michigan, Cooper
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 5: couldn't win his Bowl games. Cooper couldn't even beat Illinois
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 5: on the regular. And this was like when Lou Tepper
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 5: was at at Illinois. How often are we talking about
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 5: Lou Tepper? How many people in the chat even know
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 5: who the hell Lou Temper is? Right, So there was
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 5: a lot more to it. So you can't just go
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 5: vis a vis you know, he's a losing streak against Michigan,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 5: so therefore it's the same situation. It's it's it's not
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 5: the same situation. I don't want to live in a
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: world of where we need to see what this looks
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 5: like if Ohio State drops this game once again. But
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 5: this isn't going to be a case of where people
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 5: are going I mean where people are going to just
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 5: completely sell now. I'm gonna be honest. Walking out of
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 5: Ohio Stadium last year after that loss, I sat there
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 5: and was saying to myself, this isn't working. I don't.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 5: I don't think this is working. There. Little did I
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 5: know that the four game street Ohio State had in
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 5: it was going to come in and they're gonna win
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 5: the national championship. But you know, the way that they
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 5: lost that game, the way that they just completely changed
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 5: what it is they did, who it was that they were.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 5: I mean all of that I was, you know, I was.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 5: I was a doubter. And again I don't. I don't
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 5: look at this stuff from a fan perspective. I try
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 5: to remove myself. You know, I don't remember going to
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 5: eight am classes at Ohio State. I don't remember all
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 5: the money that I spent at the Ohio State bars
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 5: as a student. I try to look at this completely objectively,
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 5: but looking at it objectively, I had a hard time
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 5: of seeing how this was going to rectify itself. But
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 5: you know, we're in a we're in a different we're
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 5: in a different uh you know, realm right now?
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, without a doubt.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 16: I mean, if they don't go on the run and
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 16: win the national championship last year, this is a totally
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 16: different conversation, totally different conversation.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 4: Like this is like I mean, you.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 16: Know, I said the other day that I felt like,
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 16: still this was you know, as close to a must
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 16: win game as you can have without it being an
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 16: elimination game. It's not elimination game, so it's not a
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 16: must win game. But when we look at this game
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 16: moving forward as to what it means momentum wise, psyche wise, like,
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 16: I don't think you can duplicate what they were able
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 16: to use that game for last year.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 4: The loss galvanized them as a team. It broke them down.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 16: They broke each other down, they aired out everything, they regrouped,
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 16: came up with a new plan, and off they went.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 16: You lose it this time, Like, that's cook, You're not
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 16: doing that again. And I think that it really is
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 16: a an albatross, you know, and everybody just gets brought
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 16: down by it. Two senior classes in a row graduating
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 16: without beating them. Day Lose is another one. The noise
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 16: won't be nearly as loud as it was, but it'll
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 16: be there. It'll certainly be there, especially as a double
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 16: digit favorite again. And I just feel like it's gonna
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 16: it's gonna maybe ruin the whole psyche and the whole
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 16: mentality here. And you know, coming out off of that
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 16: game last year, like, yeah, that was a I mean
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 16: I think.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 4: Everybody felt that way coming out of that game, just.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 16: Just based off the way the way it all felt
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 16: and the way he looked after the game was very tough.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 4: To see him regrouping the way he did.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 16: I'm just looking at him like that at the end
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 16: of the game, like this looks bad, looks like a
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 16: guy that's just lost control. It wasn't even coaching like
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 16: himself thousand yards there. So it'll be really I mean,
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 16: the cameras will be hit on him all day. Is
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 16: this is just the second the first game after that one.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 16: It's gonna be such an interesting game.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 5: I was at a friend's house for Thanksgiving last night,
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 5: and you know, there were a lot of conversations about
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 5: last year and everything else and just and the thing
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 5: that I don't think we talk about enough. And again,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 5: what happens in a game happens in a game. There's
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 5: no excuses. I mean, I'm not a lost denier. If
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 5: you lose a game, you lost the game. I mean,
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 5: it is what it is. But Will Howard absolutely got
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 5: his bell ruck in that game. And I you know,
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 5: I questioned this point them sticking with him because he
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 5: was not right and it wasn't like that the offense
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 5: like completely changed, but it did turtle a lot. And
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know, I mean, I they they they they
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 5: just needed to make a little bit of luck and
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 5: they just couldn't make any luck in that game.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 16: Yeah, he was definitely not himself. And you know the
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 16: play calling past that kind of reflected that as well.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 16: The miss field goals certainly you could point to those
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 16: as well. I mean, everything that could go wrong did
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 16: go wrong.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 2:03:21
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• 2:03:23
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• 2:03:36
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• 2:03:49
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• 2:03:51
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• 2:03:56
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• 2:03:59
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• 2:04:08
  Speaker 5: you get a chance to hear the Ryan Day sound?
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 4: I did not hear it yet.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 5: How about how about let me let me pull this
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 5: down and let let me run the Ryan Day sound.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 5: It's only a minute forty four. They don't give us
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 5: along with him, and we can kind of comment on
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 5: what he says, his answers and of course his non answers.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 5: So let's let's let's go to that and.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 8: Our Jeremiah Carnell here, very good to go.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 9: They are on the trip and looking for a good
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 9: night of preparation.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 10: It just yeah, just flew in. It was a great
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 10: flight and.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 9: Looking forward to having great preparation tonight. We'll continue to
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 9: do that all the way to kick on.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 7: But how do you think your team prepared for this test?
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 9: Well, very similar to how we have all year, a
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 9: little electric focus, just different look in their eye this week,
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 9: and so I want to continue that tonight and then
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 9: you know, wake up in the morning with great energy
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 9: and go get a win.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 6: I know the emotion, but I know it's an really
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 6: lights out for you on these Neton games.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 7: How do you guys.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 6: Actually sleep on a night like this before a game
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 6: like this?
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 9: Well, it's funny, you know, It's just that's why you
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 9: try to get sleep early in the week because it's
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 9: a little bit harder for a game like this for sure.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 9: But we'll do the same routine and make sure you
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 9: have a great meal and do bedcheck and get them
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 9: the better early.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 11: You talk about playing with the most, but not like
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 11: the most will play with you. How do you slowly
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 11: let that balance out here as you ramp up and
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 11: get closer to kickoff?
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 10: Well, you just keep talking to the guys about it.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 9: Have a plane when they get when they get on
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 9: the field, and what that comes with and just been
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 9: talking to it all. We're talking about it every day
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 9: all week about what that looks like and the focus
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 9: that needs to happen in this game, and we just
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 9: we all have to do our job. And that's really
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 9: what it comes down to when any type of mission
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 9: that everybody has a job they have.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 10: To do and they have to execute when they get
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 10: on the field.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 9: So you know, that's that's been it, and that's that's
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 9: gonna continue to be the best Spellow way to kick off.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 12: You feel like you have a good handle on what
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 12: kind of weather, your conditions you're gonna face.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 13: You just have to kind of roll over the punches tomorrow.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think kind of like this. You'll have some
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 9: snow later in the game. But but now it's the
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 9: same for both teams and they can't wait for it.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 14: You've got to feed on the ground now inside the
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 14: state of Michigan. What does it like to be and
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 14: the excitement as we're approaching.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 10: There's there's a good bounce everybody step right now.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 9: So you know, put us focus on tonight, having a
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 9: good meal and keeping the.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 10: Guys luck in.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 5: There you go, the thing that jumped out most of
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 5: me is about how do you sleep on a night
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 5: like this?
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 4: And I was just about to comment on it, and.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 5: Everybody wants this to be a night game. Everybody wants
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 5: I could not imagine just having to sit on your
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 5: hands all through the day. I mean, play this game
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 5: at ten in the morning. I can hear the West
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 5: Coast people freaking out, Oh my god, that's seven in
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 5: the morning. I'm gonna have to start drinking at two
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 5: in the morning. But get you know, get to the
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 5: game already. But I don't. I can't imagine just the
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 5: amount of nerves. I mean, I know that throughout Buckeye
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 5: Nation and whatever they call their nation up, you know,
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 5: amongst the other team, it's gonna be a lot of
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 5: you know, a lot of tossing and turning. But just
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 5: you know, we're just observers. I mean, you were lucky
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 5: enough to talk about it, right about it or whatever.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 5: These are the guys going through it. I mean, how
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 5: do you how do you sleep through? How do you
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 5: sleep the night? I mean, I don't, I don't know.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 4: I just said this the other day, keV no joke.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 16: I said, you know, I know there's a lot of
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 16: people who want this game played under the lights, and
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 16: that would be awesome, it'd be an amazing experience. But
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 16: for me, when I wake up the morning of the game,
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 16: number one, I try to sleep in as long as
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 16: I can, which doesn't usually work.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 4: And then number two, I'm such a ball of anxiety.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 16: It takes so long and it's grueling for twelve to
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 16: get there, and then you know, halftime rolls around and
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 16: I'm like, gosh, this game is taking forever, and the
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 16: second half seems to take forever, especially if you got
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 16: a lead, like it would ruin my whole day if
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 16: it was if it was an evening game, I wouldn't
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 16: enjoy the one o'clock game. I wouldn't enjoy the four
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 16: o'clock games. Like now, if a house date wins the
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 16: rest of the day, is it just a wonderful day
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 16: you get to enjoy the rest of the day. I
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 16: would hate it. It would ruin the whole day if
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 16: you had to wait till seven. So no, I don't
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 16: want it ever to be at night. I like it
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 16: at noon. I want that thing. It's to me, this
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 16: is not an enjoyable day. It's not an enjoyable experience.
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 16: It's not enjoyable until there's zero's on the clock. It's
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 16: never been an enjoyable There are a few exceptions where
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 16: it's like, yeah, I really love the day.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 4: I don't love the day.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 16: I want the result, and I want the result I
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 16: want and then I enjoy it. It's the only game, really,
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 16: it's the only Ohio State game I never enjoy.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 4: It's not an enjoyable experience. It's an anxiety ridden, tense experience.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 16: There was one year I ran on a treadmill literally
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 16: the entire flipping game because I couldn't burn off the anxiety.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 4: I'm a bit of a basket case tomorrow.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I can go back to my collegiate
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 5: days of where when I was at Ohio State, Papa
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 5: Joe's was still open and kegs and eggs, and you know,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't remember. I don't remember going to
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 5: the game on a few occasions or whatever. But I
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 5: couldn't imagine playing this game at three or seven or
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 5: whatever and just having to drag on and drag on
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 5: and drag on and again. Everybody has their own rooting interests.
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 5: I want more time to be able to pregame. I
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 5: want more time to be able to do this but
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 5: think about the athletes who are having to go through
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 5: all of this and how they're having to sit there
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 5: and you know, cooped up at the hotel and everything else.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 5: And then, of course, the other thing that I took
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 5: from the interview was Ryan Day's non answers. He's you know,
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 5: he's not you know, some babe in the woods when
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 5: it comes to this interview situation. Yes, Jeremiah, yes, Carnell
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 5: or on the trip, but I'm not. I mean, but
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 5: then again, who JJ and Carnell? Who? Who are you
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 5: talking about? I don't even know. I mean, he was
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 5: really trying to keep it pretty vague.
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, yeah, those little two minute hits are always interesting.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 4: It's always interesting to hear the question is it good? Ass?
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 4: Like sometimes somebody will ask something like, you know, how
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 4: do you deal with the emotion?
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 16: And I was like, man, you've got like five questions here.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 16: There's a lot of stuff we could get out of him.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 4: I don't want to hear about the emotion.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 5: He's not going to answer anything. And honestly, the thing
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 5: is is, you know, we kind of started a trend
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 5: like crashing in on the television. I mean, this is
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 5: always a television station event, and we started putting these
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 5: up a couple of years ago, and yeah, there, it's
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 5: going to be a minute thirty to I mean, if
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 5: you're lucky too thirty, maybe get it to two thirty.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 5: And you know, the TV stations are looking for a SoundBite.
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 5: I mean that's what it is you want to have.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 5: You want to have that eleven second sound bite that
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 5: you can run on your on your Friday night news
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 5: that people are going to talk about that's going to
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 5: be memorable. I mean, I've had my foot in both pools.
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 5: I've had my foot on the print side, I've had
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 5: my foot on the television side. And we're not always
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 5: necessarily going for the same SoundBite. You know, they need
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 5: the standalone sound bite, which I've always kind of of
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 5: like that type of sound bite that's going to look
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 5: good on its own, whereas on when you're writing about it,
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 5: that sound bite doesn't do blank for you. Now that
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 5: Tom and TONI are here and this is a Buckeye Weekly,
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 5: let me say it again, Hell and damns, just get
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 5: us demonetized. But you know it's it's it's a it's
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 5: a it's a case of you're you're looking for different things.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 16: So I'm just now learning all of this, Kevin, But
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 16: I do I do love it when you add these
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 16: nuggets because it it now makes a little more sense
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 16: to me.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 4: Before I would have no idea what you're talking about here.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's it's it's it's a racket. It's
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 5: it's a racket. But I'm glad they were able to
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 5: get to that. I will say here in the in
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 5: the in the not too distant future, I think I'll
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 5: be tagging out and Tom Antonio'll be jumping in. But
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 5: I think that they have just come out of the
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 5: out of the h the maze from the shining outside
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 5: and are starting to warm up a little bit. So
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 5: we will we will continue to carry the ball a
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 5: little bit and then we will let them come in
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 5: and Cee J. Donaldson this up and scoop the touchdown
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 5: out away from us. We really are the ones who
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 5: moved the ball down the field.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 4: We did do the work, We did do the work.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 5: Oh, I wanted to get to this one. Jordan Kapler
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 5: asked me to save this question. What is one lesson
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 5: that you hope Coach Day has learned that would ensure
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 5: an o ISU win And you know again, I think
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 5: that's very similar to what we talked about at first.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 5: But I mean, I think that this is not a
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 5: what do they need to do? I think this needs
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 5: to be a lesson and I and I've said mine
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 5: until I'm blue in the face. But you know, through
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 5: through these losses, through you know, through all the wins
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 5: and the very few losses, what is the lesson that
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 5: you think that Ryan Day needs to most draw from
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 5: in order to get Ohio State across that finish line.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 16: I think he's learned it and I think he's I
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 16: think he's told us this week by how he's prepared,
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 16: and that is to just be Day that you always
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 16: are this day too. You don't need to be something else,
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 16: you don't need to be something extra, you don't need
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 16: to prepare differently. What you do is good enough and
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 16: you don't need the extra pressure. You don't need to
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 16: rob rab the guys up. Everybody knows what this game means.
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 16: And I think it's been all week long that approach,
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 16: like what we do every week is who we are
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 16: and that's how we perform the best. And it's the
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 16: same for him. Just be you, and I think he's
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 16: gonna look like himself, like he didn't last year. He
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 16: didn't like you look at him in the second like
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 16: it didn't even look like his face.
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 4: It just looked different. Everything felt different.
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 16: And it's gonna be just him, the same him we
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 16: see all every week on the sidelines. It's just gonna
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 16: be him, and he's gonna get this done tomorrow.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 5: And as I said earlier, and you may have heard
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 5: me say it, it may have been a couple of
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 5: minutes I was on before as we were getting you
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 5: into the room. You don't need to win a knife
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 5: fight in a coffin. You don't have to sit there
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 5: and and and play in in one square foot and
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 5: try and win this game.
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 10: You you, you.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 5: Have a decided advantage in so many different ways. Nobody,
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 5: nobody's going to question the way that you wanted you
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 5: the way that you win the game, if you're able
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 5: to win the game, if you're so so fortunate to
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 5: do that, and you know, we we This is the
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 5: third time I brought up the syops. I mean, you
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 5: know they're the I think Ryan Day got syoped with
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 5: all the stuff that you know, well, is it really
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 5: a win if you don't go out and you beat
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 5: them you know, beat them at their own game. It's
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 5: absolutely a win. Because if you sit there and you
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 5: go in and you're like, well, we're gonna all right,
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 5: we agree. It's like the old you know, the old
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 5: movie trope or whatever. It's like, oh, I'm I don't
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 5: have a gun. Well all right, I'm gonna throw this
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 5: gun aside. I'm gonna fistfight you. Yeah, shoot them effort,
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 5: Actually shoot the m effort. For Bead's sake. I mean, nobody,
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 5: nobody cares. Nobody cares win the fight. Indiana Jones had
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 5: it right. Guys got the knife for the sword and
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 5: doing all this stuff. Shoot the s o b in
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 5: the head.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 16: I mean, come on, I think, uh, you don't have
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 16: to win a knife fight in the coffin has overtaken.
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 16: He's been to the fair and seen the bear as
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 16: my favorite Kevin Noon one liner.
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 5: Again, we'll have to do more shows, and again we'll
• 2:15:29
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• 2:15:30
  Speaker 5: d Voxcha Seltzer because it just really really made me
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 5: a little bit a little bit looser and a little
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 5: bit more fun. It's been it's been a long week
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 5: with a holiday and everything else. But you know, I'm
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 5: I'm enjoying spending time with Juck, Tom and TONI as
• 2:15:44
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• 2:15:45
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• 2:15:47
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• 2:15:51
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• 2:15:52
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• 2:15:56
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• 2:15:58
  Speaker 5: through the night. We will get you through the night.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 5: Check of the score. Ohio State basketball had closed it
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 5: to a one point margin. They're down ten again, it's
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 5: thirty to twenty pit at the under four timeouts, so
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 5: we'll see what happens at that point. But again this
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 5: is this is a football show. We do have a
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 5: question or a comment here from from from Geiger Flee saying,
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 5: how's Tom's cot in Livonia uninflated? It is uninflated at
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 5: this point, That's what I can tell you. At this
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 5: point his cot is probably still in the back of
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 5: the rental car. That that is the problem with traveling
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 5: as as as a three person crew. Not a lot
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 5: of rooms have three, So you want to have if
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 5: you want Tom not to have to sleep on a cot,
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 5: send us a super Chat. If you want Tom to
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 5: sleep on us on a super Chat or sleep on
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 5: a cot, send us two super Chats a Supercot if
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 5: you will.
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 4: That's the name of the city. You're in, Kevin, Lavonia.
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 5: We're in Livonia. I believe, Yes, I did not book
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 5: this room, but I believe that is where we are. Uh,
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 5: we're not far away from a Coney Island place, though
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 5: we will not be eating there this trip. I think
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 5: we I think we've stayed at this hotel before, but
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 5: we've we've eaten there or at least at a sister
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 5: restaurant of it in the past. You know, it's not
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 5: that bad. It's it's not that bad. I mean, you know,
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 5: all things considered, we're you know, we're not downwind of
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 5: of of of of of the of the Michigan campus
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 5: at this point, so that's good as well.
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 16: How far away are you from the stadium?
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 5: Thirty minutes I'm being told from the from from out
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 5: in the distance. So you know, it's not that bad.
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 5: And we get there so early. We get there very
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 5: early because we got to get our credentials. We're of
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 5: course going to do some content in the morning, and
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 5: then we also want to be in place as soon
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 5: as we can get in there to get in place
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 5: to do you know what it is we need to do.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 4: And what does it look like?
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 16: Tell us the experience tomorrow when you get there, you
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 16: guys get in do you go to the studio the
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 16: place where they do the postgame interviews and set up
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 16: your camera to start.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 5: Well, what we'll do is, you know, Michigan's a little
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 5: bit different in terms of if you don't have a
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 5: photographer pass, there are a lot of areas you can't
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 5: go through, like the field. So I will I will
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 5: hand my tripod off to Tom who will get that
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 5: set up for us. Tony and I will will head
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 5: up Pride to the press box and go get set
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 5: up there.
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 5: Of course we've got to get ready for the availability report,
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 5: things of that nature. Ohio State and Ta Biddle will
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 5: be at at the game. You know, look for us
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 5: to potentially have something with Tabiddle tomorrow as well. It's
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 5: always nice to see you know, the best dam band
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 5: in the land out there trying to class up the
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 5: joint a little bit. So you know, we will we
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 5: will have a full morning. We will have a full
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 5: morning and of course kick off a little bit after
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 5: twelve pm according to Rupert Murdoch.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 16: Time, and how do you like this this press box
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 16: compared to most.
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 5: It's better than it used to be. I've been there
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 5: for the old version of the press box. I've been
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 5: there for the new version of the press box. The
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 5: food is okay, okay plus. But you know, it's it's
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 5: it's it's not bad. I mean, it's it's I've been
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 5: to much worse press boxes. And I mean, the one
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 5: thing I don't like about this is just the one tunnel.
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 5: I don't like the one tunnel situation, not like I
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 5: can't go through the tunnel until I'm coming after the
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 5: end of the game because they won't let us, as
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 5: I said, they won't let us on the field. But uh,
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 5: you know, outside of that, you know, it's it's it's fine.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of jawing going on, and
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 5: it's gonna probably be more jawing going on now because
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 5: of the streak that Michigan has.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 16: Now when you say tunnel, this is the tunnel going
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 16: out onto the field, right, What what is it that
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 16: you you say you're not going onto the field.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 5: I will not be allowed on the field prior to
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 5: the game, During the game, even immediately after the game,
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 5: you have to go around the concourse almost like leave
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 5: the stadium, go past Prysler Arena, and then re enter,
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 5: which is I understand there's not a lot of sideline
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 5: room there at the stadium. On the field, they wanted
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 5: to kind of clear all that out. But I don't
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 5: I don't necessarily agree with the strategy of how they
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 5: do this kind of crowd control because you're running around
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 5: with expensive bags of gear trying to go through the concourse,
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 5: and that's just not a great situation.
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 4: Gotcha. Gotcha. So this sounds like a pain in the
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 4: butt compared to other stadiums.
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 5: It has its challenges, but then again, you know, I'm
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 5: not going to say that there aren't other places that
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 5: have been have their own set of challenges. I mean,
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 5: I think Ohio Stadium we're very much spoiled. Ohio Stadium
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 5: has a pretty decent policy for field access for writers.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 5: You know, the postgame situation being in separate towers, I
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 5: think that works out pretty well. You know, Ohio State
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 5: is for a stadium that's over one hundred years old
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 5: or one hundred years old or whatever, it built, you know,
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 5: built and has been main changed a way to not
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 5: make our lives super difficult. I'm gonna start making some
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 5: adjustments to as as we are getting ready to make
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 5: the tag here, so let me let me do this.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 5: Oh hello, And they're noticing how I've had to do
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 5: everything to get every every drop of light that I
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 5: can in this room. Yeah, yeah, I know, it's it's
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 5: it's not ideal. Well, I was going to say, well,
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 5: you guys light up my life, so as I'm now
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 5: into the shadow. But they're going to punch themselves in.
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna punch myself out. But Juck, you can continue
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 5: on with with Tom and Tony. I am going to
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 5: have some pizza and watch a little Texas Texas A
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  Speaker 5: and M.
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  Speaker 16: Fantastic Thanks Kevin. Absolutely Kevin missed a question here. It says, Kevin,
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 16: was your greatest memory from the Big House so far
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 16: in your life?
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 4: Good or bad? Why don't we just throw it to Tom? Tom,
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 4: what's up Tom?
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 5: Juck?
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 18: How are you? Kevin is in the background.
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 3: He said that his greatest memory is the first time
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 3: he ever got to cover a game with Tom. With
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 3: Tom and Tony said it was.
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 18: The greatest honor of his life, which I mean, understandable,
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 18: very memorable.
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  Speaker 2: I remember the first time that I ever covered a
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 2: game with Tom.
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  Speaker 10: That's a lie.
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 2: I don't couldn't even tell you. I couldn't even begin
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 2: to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: Juck, we don't I don't know how long you want
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 1: to be here. I don't know if you're ready to go,
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: if you want to stay.
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm good to bounce. But I do want to
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 16: say before I go Tony. Guys, Tony, if you don't
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 16: follow him on Twitter, you ought to, because last night
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 16: he posted his own personal sideline recording of the end
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 16: of the twenty sixteen game, and it was phenomenal. An
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 16: angle you've never seen. Tony's commentary was unbelievable. You gotta
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 16: watch it, So follow Tony, Tony, what's your on x
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 16: at Tony gerdaman at Tony Gerdamanck.
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  Speaker 2: I'll let you know. I've got nineteen minutes of that
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 2: from the start of that video. There's nineteen minutes that
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: follow us, but I only posted like six on Twitter,
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 2: and the rest is the celebration sweet Caro line, like
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 2: twenty minutes of that whole thing that I think I've
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 2: posted it maybe on my own YouTube channel before, but
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 2: I'll shoot you link.
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, I'd love to see it. It was excellent, gentlemen.
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 16: I hope you're all warmed up. I'll talk to you
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 16: guys later seeing Jack.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you all right, Welcome back everybody. Thank you to Kevin,
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: thanking to Juck for handling. I don't know, that was
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: a pretty decent amount of time.
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 18: I don't want to say which pizza place was really
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 18: deliberate in getting their pizza out, but it was neither
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 18: ready nor hot or we got there.
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  Speaker 2: So but we are here now. We can read all
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 2: of your questions.
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 1: We can just we can attack everything that you guys
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: want to discuss that you haven't yet or that you want.
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 1: Thank you again, we are here for that. Thank you
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 1: guys again for sticking around. We are about two and
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 1: a half hours into this live stream as I look
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  Speaker 1: at it now. Appreciate all the likes on YouTube, Appreciate
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 1: all the the feedback and the comments there.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so we uh, I guess let's start with
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 3: what we saw, what we heard with Ryan Day. I
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 3: guess that's a good place to start because we have
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 3: we can get caught up on comments because I'm.
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 18: Guessing that I'm guessing there's a lot of questions that
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 18: have been answered already.
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah here, But you know, I think the first thing
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 3: that everyone's going to want to know is Carneal Tate,
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith.
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 18: Ryan Day answered it in exactly the way that.
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 3: Ryan Day has been answering this stuff all week, which
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 3: is to say he's not.
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 18: Really answering it. But I went back and.
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 3: I was looking when I was in the car on
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 3: the way back here, and I think the thing to
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 3: me that is more telling than anything else is there's
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 3: this little smirk on his face like he knows he's
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 3: messing with us.
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 18: Because he just say, yeah, they made the trip, and
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 18: he knows he's messing with us. But is he messing with.
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 3: Us, like, oh boy, I just got some bad news
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 3: that that is not at all the vibe of what
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 3: he's what That little look on his face tells me.
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think that was bad news. Bad vibes
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 1: smile that you see from Ryan Day and really all
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 1: week he's been very, very in a very good mood, joking,
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 1: joking around and doesn't seem to be nervous. Is not
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 1: showing the kind of concern that you know, you wouldn't
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 1: want I'm showing concerns everything that you would want to
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 1: see out of your head. Coach, I think you're seeing
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: right now, although some would want to see more militant.
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 1: You know, we will die on this hill. I will,
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: you know, not let Michigan do whatever. So but you
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 1: don't want him tight. He's not tight. He's not seemed
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 1: tight at all this week and frankly at all this
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 1: season other than the fact where you know, early in
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 1: camp and throughout camp up in spring, there's just a
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 1: lot of talk about Texas.
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Yeah, it's it's it's been quite Sorry.
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 3: I was I was going through and pickets and picktts
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 3: starting some questions. But yeah, I think this is a
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 3: I think this is a game that Ryan Day is
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 3: Ryanda has learned his lesson from last year. I think,
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 3: you know, I think last year the big takeaway that
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 3: they had was this game is not life and death.
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 5: Like this is.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 18: This is an important game.
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 3: This is a game that in a lot of ways
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 3: will help define this season. But this game is not
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 3: life and death. You just saw last year they lost
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 3: the game and they were still still able to win.
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 18: The National championship. They missed out on the big ten championship.
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 18: They missed out on the gold.
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 3: Pants, but it was not the end of the world
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 3: like the way in previous years nineteen ninety five, nineteen
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 3: ninety five, they came up here thirty years ago and
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 3: all they needed to do was win that and then
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 3: win the Rose Bowl against what was not a particularly
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 3: good USC team, and you're undefeated, and maybe you get
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 3: a split.
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 18: National championship because they were probably.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 3: Fortunate to not have to play that Nebraska team that season,
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 3: but they won the Heisman over the Nebraska team. It
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 3: was Eddie George got that over Tommy Fraser that year.
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 3: So maybe if they had won that game convincingly and
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 3: they had won the Rose Bowl convincingly, you know, maybe
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 3: maybe you win the split national championship.
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: Ninety six, definitely win a national championship because at Arizona
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 1: State won the rosemo they were going to be national champs.
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 5: Yep, yep.
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that was uh, you know, that's but it's
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 3: but it's not that way anymore, and that's you know,
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 3: that's not for Ohio State.
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 18: That is not a bad thing that that it's not that.
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 3: Way anymore because they have earned right now the right
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 3: to be in this position where Michigan is in the
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 3: spot where if they win the game, maybe they can
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 3: make the College Football Playoff.
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 18: If they lose, they're absolutely out.
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 3: And you know Texas right now is playing Texas A
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 3: and M in that same position where if they win
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 3: this game, maybe you're in.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 18: If you lose, you're definitely not.
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State has won enough to this point of the
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 3: season where they're eleven tozer wheneveryone I think is going, well,
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 3: you haven't done anything yet. They're saying they haven't really
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 3: done anything yet. But by doing what they've done so far,
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 3: they've earned the right to be in a spot where
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 3: you have a little bit of margin for error. But
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 3: also that means you can play a little looser and
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 3: makes that that to me, makes it less likely that
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 3: you have need to use that margin for error.
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and everybody sounds like they're loose, and everybody is loose.
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 1: That's great during the week. I still want to see
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 1: it during the game. And we've seen this team before
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 1: or last year being down two scores to Penn State,
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 1: you know, on the road in Happy Valley and they
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 1: were able to come back. And they've been down in
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 1: other games and we're able to come back, come back.
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 1: They've not yet been in that situation this year. How
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 1: long have they trailed this year? Maybe like five minutes
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 1: of game time if that, and maybe so they've not
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 1: been in a situation of life or death football wise,
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 1: and so there's a question of how they will respond
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 1: to that. We've seen Michigan in that situation sort of
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 1: against Northwestern and that they needed to drive to come
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: back to win that. Whoever, they'd already lost two prior games,
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 1: so you know, technically, yes, their playoff hopes were We're
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 1: still kept alive and they've had to win a game late.
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 1: Ohio State has not had to do that, so there's
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: questions of can they And also when you haven't had
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 1: to do that, there's just tons of questions about your
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: schedule so far, and it's like, is everything inflated because
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 1: of the schedule that they've played, And while certainly some
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 1: of it is, I think you can look at this
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 1: team and see a bunch of talented players and a
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: bunch of first round picks on both sides of the ball.
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is this is a game where you
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 3: can you could this is going to be a challenge.
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 18: I mean, someone is saying, you know, this is Ohio
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 18: State's toughest game yet.
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this. I think unquestionable this is Ohio's
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 3: toughest game yet because Texas Game one. It was very
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 3: much a feeling out process, and I think both both
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 3: teams are substantially better than they were gate Week one,
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 3: which is, you know, that's the norm for college football team.
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: I think Texas is more talented, but this is a
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 1: tougher game for several reasons. Being on the road is
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 1: certainly one. The fact that you're banged up by this
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 1: time of year, and Bryce Underwood is a better quarterback
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: than he was early in the season. I think playing
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 1: Michigan at the start of the season, which I always
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 1: say they should, I think that's the best.
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 2: Time to do it.
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 1: But if you're playing Bryce Underwood August thirtieth, it's much
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 1: different than November thirtieth, So they're going to get the
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 1: best Bryce Underwood, and certainly I don't know that they
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 1: got the best Arts Manning.
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 9: No.
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 1: Overall, I think there's more talent in Texas, but the
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 1: way things have been put together, the road situation, the
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 1: rivalry situation, the confidence that Michigan has because I don't
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 1: know how much confidence Texas came into that game with
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 1: Michigan's going to come into this game with confidence at
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 1: least for the start.
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're going to. I think they're going
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 3: to come in with a lot of confidence. Michigan's Michigan
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 3: is you know, on Monday, Searan Moore was about his
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 3: relyfe to as you'll see a coach, and then Ryan
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 3: Day on Tuesday was kind of much the same. You know,
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 3: I think Ryan Day is coming and knowing he probably
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 3: has the more talented team, and he also knows there's
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 3: a little bit of margin for air here and sure
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 3: on Moore is coming in going well, I've only been
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 3: the coach once and I've beaten this team twice, so
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 3: you you have a and he you know, if he
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 3: falls to two and one against Ohio State, that is
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 3: probably not the end of his time as Michigan's head coach.
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 18: And if they win, then.
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 3: You're potentially in the College football playoffs. So they have
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 3: a lot to gain and not a whole time to lose.
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 3: And I think Ohio State has you know, Ohio State
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 3: can gain, you know, freedom from the narrative around the
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 3: last couple of last couple of seasons. But also this
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 3: is not a you know, if if they lose, this
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 3: is not a season defining thing. So this is these
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 3: are two teams that could potentially play a little bit
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 3: free and not be having to I mean, like Ohio
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 3: State in that Texas game was just it was like
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 3: both teams are trying to choke the life out of
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 3: the game. Ohio State was very clearly feeling like, well,
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 3: there's not a lot of you know, there's not a
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 3: lot that Texas is going to do on offense. So
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 3: you're up by seven points, you're up by fourteen points,
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 3: just keep it simple and don't make a mistake. This
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 3: is a game where you know, yeah, Ohios State doesn't
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 3: want to make a mistake, but all Ohio State also
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 3: can go in and you know, assuming you do have
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith as I mean, you do have Cardinal Tate,
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 3: you can take some shots down here. You don't need
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 3: to play in a phone move like they did in
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 3: week one with Julian Sane. Because Julian Sane has shown
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 3: a lot of growth and a lot of development between
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 3: week one and.
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 1: Now, and I think if Ohio State is more aggressive,
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 1: that forces Michigan to be more aggressive. Which I don't
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 1: think is necessarily Michigan's game or what they'd want to
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 1: do in this one. So if you can force them
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 1: to have to throw the ball more, that leads to
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 1: more potential problems, more potential turnovers, and that's not just
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 1: interceptions but fumbles. Price Underwood can be careless with the ball,
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 1: and if Michigan starts pressing, then that's another positive for
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: Ohio State in this one. And I don't think State
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 1: needs to press to be aggressive. That's just the nature
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 1: of their offense. That's you know, they're just the one
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 1: to attack downfield. If Michigan doesn't allow that, they have
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 1: no problem staying patient. It's just a matter of converting
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 1: and picking up those third downs if there are any,
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 1: and just staying consistent and overcoming the one negative play
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 1: in a series of like five or six plays that
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 1: dooms the drive, whether that's a hold, a tackle for
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 1: loss and in completion on second and ten, something like that.
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 1: If you can just avoid that and just stay consistent
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 1: and seven yards of pop will work.
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 18: Oh yeah, yeah. If Ohio State can stay on schedule.
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 3: In with the run game, that really puts Michigan behind
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 3: the eight ball. If Michigans can stay on schedule, they
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 3: can continue to function as an offense. If Michigan is
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 3: behind schedule, you know, in by schedule, we're saying four
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 3: yards on first down, four yards on second down, or
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 3: half of what you need on second down, and then
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 3: get to you know, pick up whatever you need on
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 3: third down. They just need to stay in second and manageable,
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 3: third and manageable. If it's third and eight, Michigan is
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 3: not in a spot where Michigan wants to be, because
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 3: that means Ohio State is in a predictable pass rutch situation.
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 18: And are they gonna bring all sorts of pressure maybe?
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 3: Are they going to show a bunch of pressure trying
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 3: to get you to get the ball out quickly and
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 3: drop a bunch of guys into coverage maybe, And you're
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 3: you're at that point, Chip Lindsay, it's you know, at
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 3: that point, as an offense, you become like a guest
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 3: hitter in baseball, where it's like, well, I think a
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 3: curveball is coming, and if it's the express, well I
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 3: am in deep trouble because I do not have you know,
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 3: at that point, the ball's passed you, and that's where
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 3: do you think Ohio State's gonna blitz. If you do,
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 3: then you're gonna call a screen. But then if they
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 3: don't blitz, then you're in trouble. And that's that's where
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 3: I think Ohio State, could you know, if they can
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 3: get Michigan behind the sticks, If you can just get
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 3: them in third and long, Ohio State isn't much more,
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 3: you know, again, assuming they have everyone they were sort
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 3: of assuming they're going to have. If you get Jeremi Smithing,
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 3: Carnell Tate and Brandon Innis and next player, then third
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 3: and eight looks like, yeah, okay, fine, sure, why not.
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 1: If Michigan isn't third and long in this one, they're
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 1: going to lose against We've mentioned this on previous shows
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 1: that against USC and Oklahoma their two losses five of
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 1: twenty three total on third downs, and if there're some
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 1: measure of that in this game, it's very very bad news.
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 1: They can't go third and long because Bryce Underwood struggles
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 1: with completions downfield. And when I say downfield, I mean
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 1: ten yards downfield. The East struggle is this completion percentage
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 1: gets way lower. So it's you know, something to keep
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 1: in mind. They don't want to be there, so it's
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see how they try to
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: stown schedule.
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 3: Geiger Lise is a fiver towards Tom's exoneration from the
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 3: Lavonia cot Listen.
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 2: We're going to.
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 18: We'll do our best.
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 3: The good news is generally by the end of these weeks,
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 3: I am generally tired enough that it's like, yeah, I
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 3: want to sleep on the floor.
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 2: That's fine.
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 18: It was a super the bathtub, That's fine, It's fine.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 1: I'm we got a big, nice SUV outside.
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 2: You know, there's plenty of room in there as well.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 3: The dog is not gonna be waking me up to
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 3: walk her at five in the morning, so you know,
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 3: it's doing I'm doing just fine.
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 3: Here's here's an interesting one from Vinnie wants to know.
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 3: Is Devin Sanchez an X factor for the defense with
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 3: Lorenzo Styles ding.
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 18: Your shoulder injury.
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 3: I think he plays, but Sanchez is definitely the future
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 3: of the secondary. Could be a lot like Tayvas Powell
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 3: was in twenty thirteen. You know, I mean, we we
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 3: don't have the availability report yet, but based on everything
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 3: we've heard, Lorenzo Styles was practicing this week, So my
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 3: expectation is that Lorenzo Styles is playing this week. So
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 3: if Lorenzo Styles is playing, then I assume you're going
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 3: to continue to see Devin Sanchez in the dime role,
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 3: which is the role that Lorenzo Styles was in last year.
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 3: So you're gonna see that. But this is not a
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 3: team where I'm expecting them to play a lot of
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 3: time because that's not you know, Michigan is not a
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 3: go four wide kind of team because they don't really
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 3: have the four wide receivers that you you.
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 18: Know, if you're going four wide.
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 3: This is kind of the opposite of Ohio State, where
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 3: if you go for what you know, if you put
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 3: a bunch of tight ends in the game, you're pulling
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 3: good wide receivers off the field. If Michigan goes you
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 3: know place, if Michigan goes for wide, you're pulling whoever
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 3: Hogan Hansen.
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 2: Or Marlon Klein lines at.
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 3: Marshall, You're pulling some of those guys off the field.
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 3: You're pulling Jordan Marshall off the field, whoever it is.
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 1: Because when we talk about Michigan's past receivers, probably two
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 1: of their four best would be Zach Marshall and Marlon
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 1: Klein and the other two would be Andrew marsh and
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 1: Donovan McAuley. So when you are third and thirteen, those
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 1: might be the four that you've got out there, which
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 1: is the same that might be out there on first
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 1: and ten. So it's I don't know how much of
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 1: a need there will ever be to go out. There
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 1: will certainly be some dime out there. They'll throw it
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 1: out there just you know, just because you're not gonna
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: be running on third and sixteen or whatever, so they'll
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 1: just throw out the best coverage out there.
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 2: But I do I'm with you.
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 1: I think Lorenzo Styles practicing this week means he's going
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 1: to play. How long he can play, that's another question.
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: Takes one hit, one bad landing, and then he's out.
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 1: And we saw what happened last week when he went out.
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 1: They put in Bryce West at Nickel and they kept
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 1: Jermaine Matthews because it's been a rough stretch of games
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 1: for Devin Sanchez, and when he's in there, they attack
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 1: him immediately. The first play Bryce West was in there,
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 1: they went right after him. Oh yeah, he held up.
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 1: It was good in coverage, did not allow the completion.
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 1: So whoever is in there and Frankly, we talked about
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 1: it earlier. I wouldn't surprised if they target Lorenzo Styles
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 1: because I mean, at this point, if you're looking at
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 1: Ohio State's secondary and it's going to be well, I
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 1: can either attack Jermaine matte Us or.
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 2: David ning Binosen.
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 1: Nope, nope, So you go with the guy that and
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 1: that's why you might see more of Andrew Marsh in
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 1: the slot until, as you mentioned, they decide Ohio State decides, well,
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 1: we can't allow this. And that's also assuming that the
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 1: registyles is giving up catches in the slot to Andrew Marsh,
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 1: because that's not a.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 5: Short thing either.
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 18: Yep, we got a super check from fort waym Buckeye.
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 3: Even as a part of the media, do you guys
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 3: still get nervous or butterflies before games like this?
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 5: Height?
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Oh no, I know it's no, it's not.
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 2: It's just like the events.
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's I mean, this is something we
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 3: look forward to every year. I'm when I'm on the
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 3: field and it's the fourth quarter, like twenty three last
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 3: time we were up here, Ohio State is driving down
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 3: the field with a chance to win, down six points
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 3: in the final minute or two minutes, whatever it was.
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not thinking, oh boy, I hope the score or
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 3: oh boy, I'm so nervous will they score. I'm thinking,
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 3: where's Marvin Harrison? Where's uh CAD's stover?
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 2: What are they?
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's second and seven, they have one time out left.
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 2: What do they get?
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 3: Are they are they going to throw an out route?
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to anticipate where the ball might go because
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 3: I'm My job is to look through the camera and
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 3: if I see Kyle McCord drop back, okay tole McCord
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 3: is scanning the field over here, who is he looking for?
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 18: Where is that receiver going to be?
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 3: If he's if it's Marvin Harrison's over here, then I'm
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 3: probably looking for Maybe they're running the nine route. If
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 3: it's Cade's stover, they're probably running something shorter over the middle.
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 3: Where is he looking? Where do I have to pop
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 3: my lens out and go find it so then I
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 3: can get the get the camera there, find the receiver,
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 3: get focused, and then get it before the ball gets there,
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 3: so I have a photo. That's That's what I'm thinking about.
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not you when you were working these games. You
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 3: experience them in a completely different way than if you're watching.
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 1: And four, Wayne, I'm going to see if YouTube can
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 1: give you your money back. I know you didn't want
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 1: a camera question on that. I apologize for that nobody.
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 1: But in terms of wow, it's it's a big it's
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 1: always a big game. It's always an event. So it's
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 1: always something to look forward to to get excited about.
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 1: And we talked about it earlier today. When you walk
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 1: into either of these stadiums, you realize, Okay, this is
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 1: not just a game. This is history that's being taken,
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 1: that take place, and your privileged to be in it,
• 2:41:28
  Speaker 1: watching it, watching it as it happens, seeing all the things.
• 2:41:32
  Speaker 1: And like even Jack mentioned the video that I posted
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 1: on Twitter, and at one point in that video, I
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 1: think it's probably after, like maybe before j T. Barrett
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 1: clearly picks up the fourth down and I'm just talking
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 1: to somebody. I'm like, this is awesome. Yeah, And that's
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 1: that's the same thing cam Accord driving down the field
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 1: against all odds, Like, this is awesome. And you know,
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 1: watching that twenty sixteen game, going back and forth on
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 1: the on the sideline because I'm usually up in a
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 1: press box and I seen count will time watches all
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 1: of these, but I don't have to shoot it when
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 1: we're down there. When after like the five minute mark
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter, we're allowed down onto the field,
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: and being down there for those overtimes and just walking
• 2:42:15
  Speaker 1: back from each am zone to each end zone, it's
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 1: incredible to view something like that that you know is
• 2:42:22
  Speaker 1: going to stand in the test of time and people
• 2:42:23
  Speaker 1: are going to remember forever and you're right there. I
• 2:42:27
  Speaker 1: think that's always and that's always a possibility. Not a
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 1: Michigan because I'm not allowed down in the field. Neither
• 2:42:32
  Speaker 1: is Kevin tom somehow weasels his way in there because
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 1: he whear's a vest. But the opportunity to be around history,
• 2:42:39
  Speaker 1: I think is very cool. Yeah, for sure. And the
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 1: year that really kind of brought that home to me.
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 3: Like the job is, I'm in a spot where most
• 2:42:47
  Speaker 3: people can't be, and so my job is to show you, like,
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 3: what is it like this close? What is actually happening
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 3: on when you're not watching on TV. The you that
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 3: drove that home was twenty twenty when it's like, oh,
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 3: there's none here, there's literally we are literally the only people,
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 3: Like the Indiana game The biggest payar season game that
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 3: season was the game where they didn't even let the
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 3: parents in. There were five hundred and thirty eight people
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 3: or five hundred and thirty six people or whatever it
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 3: was in the stadium that day, including the players, including
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 3: the coaches, including the officials, including everyone.
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 18: That's it.
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 3: And so that was the year that really like if
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 3: you didn't get it before, then then you really got it.
• 2:43:25
  Speaker 18: Like shooting the.
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 3: Video around campus, like, what is it like walking around campus?
• 2:43:29
  Speaker 3: It is spooky. There is no one here.
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 1: It is spooky. I mean Michigan didn't even show up
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty Michigan game. You're looking around and like,
• 2:43:36
  Speaker 1: where where is everybody? Where is the football team?
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 2: Very spooky.
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 18: So yeah, so that that's a little bit of a
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 18: little bit of our.
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 3: Day, should we. I guess we can talk a little
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 3: bit about what we're planning for tomorrow, and we have
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 3: a million questions I.
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 2: Start, I want to find out.
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 18: Yeah, I sent you a long email. There were many
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 18: word CLDR volume volume one of the email. Yeah, it
• 2:44:02
  Speaker 18: was the plan for tomorrow. We'll get there early. We will.
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 3: We can't get in until nine o'clock. Once we get
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 3: into the stadium. Tony and Kevin will be up in
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 3: the press box. They will be doing a live show.
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 3: I will be down. We got to kind of run
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 3: around and get some tripods set up for postgame stuff,
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 3: and then well, Ohio State team arrival is at nine fifty,
• 2:44:24
  Speaker 3: so I think we're planning to trying to start the
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 3: postgame show nine thirty nine four. Sorry, pregame show nine
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 3: thirty nine forty. Try and get you down so we
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 3: can get a view of Ohio States team arrival at
• 2:44:34
  Speaker 3: nine to fifty, Michigan's team arrival at ten ten. Try
• 2:44:37
  Speaker 3: and get to some behind the scenes stuff. And I
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 3: heard Chuck and Kevin talking about the tunnel. The tunnel
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 3: is it is a pretty unique thing in college football.
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 3: You have two teams going down to the same tunnel.
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 3: The locker rooms only come out. There's only one way
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 3: on and off the field, unless you're going to go
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 3: through the stands. There's only one way on and off
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 3: the field at Michigan. I'll shoot a video there so
• 2:44:57
  Speaker 3: you can just sort of see wherever everything is. Where's
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 3: the Michigan locker room, Whe's the High State locker room?
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 3: Why do you constantly see these videos of players pushing
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 3: and shoving, like pre game tomorrow, there will probably be
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 3: video of Dane Sands was, oh no, Grant Schwartz, Grint
• 2:45:11
  Speaker 3: Schwartz shoving some guy and uh, you know Marcus Hall
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 3: walking off the field, and you know all that stuff.
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 3: That's all right in that tunnel. So we'll give you
• 2:45:19
  Speaker 3: kind of a behind the scenes look there. So that's
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 3: that's that.
• 2:45:26
  Speaker 18: Dorian says we have it better than the Red Coats.
• 2:45:29
  Speaker 1: It's true we do, but the Red Coats work much harder.
• 2:45:33
  Speaker 1: They did for much less fanfare, and.
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 2: The fanfare that we get was amazing.
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 1: Earlier, you guys saw being approached by people while we're
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 1: doing loud and saying, hey, love the work you do.
• 2:45:43
  Speaker 2: Well. I do the same thing when I see the
• 2:45:44
  Speaker 2: Red Coats. Love the work you do.
• 2:45:46
  Speaker 3: Try, I know you're working, said that to during I started,
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 3: Dorian a couple of weeks ago.
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you.
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the people I don't like.
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 18: He's right there.
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 3: So do we have other stuff we want to get
• 2:46:03
  Speaker 3: to in terms of game breakdown? Do we want to
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 3: do some questions right now?
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 1: Let's questions, because I think we've broken this thing down
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 1: as much as.
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to uh, if you want to
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 3: hear us talk about this game, great news.
• 2:46:15
  Speaker 18: There are forty seven podcasts in which you can hear.
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 1: And to my credit and to your credit, I don't
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 1: know that we've just repeated ourselves.
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, despite what people may be hearing.
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so and and we can get you.
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 18: Well, let's see, I'll I'm going to put up the
• 2:46:33
  Speaker 18: video of the team arrival.
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 3: Just you can see that, and so hopefully it's not
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 3: too loud and we'll be able to you'll be able
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 3: to hear us above this.
• 2:46:41
  Speaker 18: So let's say we'll up very much.
• 2:46:44
  Speaker 3: So this is the team arrival at the hotel a
• 2:46:46
  Speaker 3: little earlier. It's you know, and it is a know you.
• 2:47:00
  Speaker 19: Yet it's there, all right, that's better. So this is
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 19: the team arliable at the hotel.
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 3: And this is about even the half and then about
• 2:47:13
  Speaker 3: three two hours mon, two hours morning, and you know,
• 2:47:16
  Speaker 3: this is just all Lets you know, if there's anyone
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 3: notable who's walking by h during the video, just seeding
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 3: side sort of tell I know, it's kind of it's dark.
• 2:47:25
  Speaker 3: They set up at that hotel is very The lighting
• 2:47:29
  Speaker 3: there is not the TV style lighting.
• 2:47:31
  Speaker 19: It's like they don't even there Yeah, that's Brian Hartline.
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 18: He's walking past you right there.
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 19: Billy Fessler, there is belief. That's Nate Roberts. It's your Yeah,
• 2:47:43
  Speaker 19: there's Tyler Bowen.
• 2:47:46
  Speaker 3: It's uh I think that's is that Carson Hintson with
• 2:47:51
  Speaker 3: that bright shock of blonde hair, Carson Hinsman has gotten
• 2:47:54
  Speaker 3: easier to pick out.
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 19: There's Matt Patricia. He's about to walk through that light there.
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 2: To hinting.
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 2:48:02
  Speaker 19: So just just some of the guys, uh.
• 2:48:07
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah there, yeah, there there were multiple busses
• 2:48:10
  Speaker 3: and and could not get everyone all at once.
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 19: That would going from let us going by the day.
• 2:48:22
  Speaker 19: You can you sort of.
• 2:48:23
  Speaker 3: See the guys coming in and they're really you know,
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 3: the question was okay, as Jeremiah Smith, is Carnel Take
• 2:48:29
  Speaker 3: going to be there? The answer is guest Ryan Day
• 2:48:33
  Speaker 3: later clarified yes, the great news they made the trip.
• 2:48:36
  Speaker 18: So and we'll play that.
• 2:48:38
  Speaker 3: We'll play that Ryan Day interviewed again for you in
• 2:48:40
  Speaker 3: a minute, because let's let you just sort of hear
• 2:48:43
  Speaker 3: his uh his answer on that, because then just a
• 2:48:46
  Speaker 3: look on his face as he's saying it is a
• 2:48:48
  Speaker 3: little bit telling to me. Anyone else notable coming through
• 2:48:54
  Speaker 3: generally once you get towards the back of the bus,
• 2:48:57
  Speaker 3: it's going to be mostly younger guy guys. And you
• 2:49:03
  Speaker 3: know the fact that you have not seen Jeremiah Smith
• 2:49:05
  Speaker 3: here is not a reason to be concerned. As Tony said,
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 3: there's a whole nother bus at or two off to
• 2:49:10
  Speaker 3: the left, and guys who are not walking past where
• 2:49:12
  Speaker 3: this came to position.
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 1: Plus, like you send in the backups on the first bus.
• 2:49:19
  Speaker 3: That was the that was a trip to State College
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 3: and it's extremely short runway.
• 2:49:24
  Speaker 19: All right, so we've gotten I think we've gotten pretty
• 2:49:26
  Speaker 19: much everyone there.
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 3: That's I think that is going to be Carlos Lachlan
• 2:49:30
  Speaker 3: coming in there. He tends to be one of the
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 3: last people coming in coming into the stadium on Saturdays,
• 2:49:36
  Speaker 3: coming out of the tunnel before games. Sorry, that's that
• 2:49:42
  Speaker 3: should be. Everything is to pop that out of there
• 2:49:43
  Speaker 3: real quick.
• 2:49:44
  Speaker 1: Coach Lockey's the one that he's the last one in
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 1: locks the door, so nobody out yep, yep.
• 2:49:50
  Speaker 3: So fort win Buckeye wants to know. After the Buckeyes winning,
• 2:49:54
  Speaker 3: you do a four or post game show, who gets
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 3: to drive back to Columbus Elsnow, Well, good, great news, Tony,
• 2:49:58
  Speaker 3: You're the one on the round car.
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 1: I just I just got a DM from somebody up
• 2:50:02
  Speaker 1: north saying, well, you enjoy the drive home tomorrow night. Yeah,
• 2:50:07
  Speaker 1: and we're kind of going to be racing a little
• 2:50:09
  Speaker 1: bit of snow in that area a four hour post game.
• 2:50:13
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
• 2:50:14
  Speaker 1: The place closes three hours after the game. So and
• 2:50:18
  Speaker 1: if we're going to be outside doing this postgame, and
• 2:50:21
  Speaker 1: we might be if we're out there for three hours,
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be out there forever because we will be frozen.
• 2:50:26
  Speaker 3: The postgame show is sponsored by the Triangle Lot. It's
• 2:50:29
  Speaker 3: possible well sponsored by the Triangle Lot. And one that
• 2:50:32
  Speaker 3: was in dollars in super.
• 2:50:33
  Speaker 2: Chats, but we can move it there in the background.
• 2:50:38
  Speaker 18: Next one. Do you think ann Arbor is a nice campus?
• 2:50:41
  Speaker 3: Like I will say I lived up here for a
• 2:50:43
  Speaker 3: few years, not in ann Arbor, but about half an
• 2:50:45
  Speaker 3: hour from here.
• 2:50:46
  Speaker 18: For like three years.
• 2:50:47
  Speaker 3: And yeah, this is like this is a very nice
• 2:50:49
  Speaker 3: area and arbors a very nice nice city.
• 2:50:53
  Speaker 18: Michigan's got a very nice campus.
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 3: Like it's a this is like this is a perfectly
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 3: nice place to live to go to school, Like it's
• 2:51:02
  Speaker 3: a you know, I know, I know, this is not
• 2:51:03
  Speaker 3: the answer to everyone wants, but like this is in
• 2:51:06
  Speaker 3: our I have I have always thought.
• 2:51:08
  Speaker 18: This is a very nice, very nice city.
• 2:51:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he only speaks for Kevin, as we all know.
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, really, when you when we go around a
• 2:51:20
  Speaker 1: big ten and we don't always see the campuses campuses, uh,
• 2:51:23
  Speaker 1: sometimes we get to walk through campus to get to
• 2:51:26
  Speaker 1: uh from the parking garage to the stadium.
• 2:51:29
  Speaker 2: What is not a good.
• 2:51:32
  Speaker 1: Like Purdue Illinois and I love Illinois Stadium what they've
• 2:51:36
  Speaker 1: done with that, But like, is there anything memorable about Purdue?
• 2:51:40
  Speaker 1: I like Michigan State. You've got the river right there. Washington,
• 2:51:44
  Speaker 1: it's fine. I mean you've got you've got the water,
• 2:51:47
  Speaker 1: and you got all of this fancy, you know, beautiful
• 2:51:50
  Speaker 1: foliage and all of this nice stadium. I like Nebraska,
• 2:51:54
  Speaker 1: even though we're not necessarily haven't really gone too much
• 2:51:59
  Speaker 1: into the the campus area.
• 2:52:01
  Speaker 2: But love Wisconsin. I like most places.
• 2:52:05
  Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, Iowa, Iowa city is very nice and been
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 18: there in a while.
• 2:52:11
  Speaker 3: Penn State, like Central you know, Central Pennsylvania is probably
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 3: not for everyone. But if you were not for me,
• 2:52:16
  Speaker 3: if you were not a big city person, then I'm
• 2:52:19
  Speaker 3: like Henry County here. If you're not a big city person. Uh,
• 2:52:22
  Speaker 3: then then that's not a you know, that's a.
• 2:52:24
  Speaker 18: That is kind of a nice lit town. That's kind
• 2:52:27
  Speaker 18: of a nice little town.
• 2:52:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you can have your mileage may vary
• 2:52:32
  Speaker 3: on I would guess that the people who like Iowa
• 2:52:35
  Speaker 3: City are not going to be the same people that
• 2:52:37
  Speaker 3: like College Park, Maryland or because you know it reallys
• 2:52:40
  Speaker 3: Wick slash Scataway, New Jersey. Like there's a little bit
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 3: of your mileage may vary. But Eugene, Oregon last year,
• 2:52:47
  Speaker 3: we had a good time. In Ujune, Oregon, we had
• 2:52:49
  Speaker 3: a good time.
• 2:52:49
  Speaker 2: And Seattle we had.
• 2:52:50
  Speaker 3: A good You know, Minneapolis is a nice like Minnesota
• 2:52:54
  Speaker 3: is a nice a nice campus. Yeah, Madison, it's impossible
• 2:52:58
  Speaker 3: to have a bad time in Madison. You mentioned Lansing
• 2:53:02
  Speaker 3: in the Red Seed a river, like that's a great spot.
• 2:53:04
  Speaker 3: Like there's there are I am hard pressed to think
• 2:53:08
  Speaker 3: of a big ten campus that I'm like, boh no,
• 2:53:11
  Speaker 3: thanks to campus no I I Yeah, USC is a
• 2:53:16
  Speaker 3: big city campus. So if you've been, you've been to
• 2:53:18
  Speaker 3: LA so you've you know, we've never been to USC's.
• 2:53:22
  Speaker 18: Campus, but I've been. It hes an hour to get there,
• 2:53:23
  Speaker 18: no matter how far.
• 2:53:24
  Speaker 2: Away you are. I've been to Indiana, so I've been
• 2:53:26
  Speaker 2: to La There you go.
• 2:53:29
  Speaker 18: At Potato shirt, super chet.
• 2:53:30
  Speaker 3: If the score is tied at half, which team is
• 2:53:32
  Speaker 3: more likely to try an on side to start the third?
• 2:53:34
  Speaker 3: Thanks for the great coverage all season. So if the
• 2:53:38
  Speaker 3: score is tied, yeah, I think which team is more
• 2:53:43
  Speaker 3: likely to try? And onside the answers Michigan because Michigan
• 2:53:46
  Speaker 3: is going to be playing Michigan is going to be
• 2:53:49
  Speaker 3: playing with less of a margin for air, so they're
• 2:53:52
  Speaker 3: going to have to be a little more creative. I
• 2:53:56
  Speaker 3: think the answer is probably still mission again. But you know,
• 2:54:01
  Speaker 3: the argument against it in this scenario is laid out.
• 2:54:03
  Speaker 3: If the score is tied at half, the argument against
• 2:54:06
  Speaker 3: it would be that does Michigan want to if Michigan
• 2:54:11
  Speaker 3: is holding Ohio State on deep? You know, well, well, yeah,
• 2:54:16
  Speaker 3: that's that's true. In my head it was ten ten,
• 2:54:18
  Speaker 3: but I guess it doesn't. Yeah, I'm struggling to imagine
• 2:54:23
  Speaker 3: it being thirty one thirty one at halftime, but if
• 2:54:25
  Speaker 3: it is, I think anyone is gonna If it's thirty
• 2:54:28
  Speaker 3: one thirty one at half time, I think whoever's kicking
• 2:54:30
  Speaker 3: it off is doing an on side kick because if it's.
• 2:54:32
  Speaker 1: Ten ten, I feel like again it's unlikely. And if so,
• 2:54:36
  Speaker 1: if it's Ohio State, the thought going through their mind
• 2:54:38
  Speaker 1: is nobody's expecting this. We've got a good defense. But
• 2:54:42
  Speaker 1: then also, you lost last year by giving Michigan short fields. Now,
• 2:54:48
  Speaker 1: a seven yard scoring drive in a four yard scoring
• 2:54:50
  Speaker 1: drive is much different than a forty five yard scoring drive.
• 2:54:54
  Speaker 1: But still you lost last year because you gave Michigan
• 2:54:58
  Speaker 1: short fields.
• 2:54:59
  Speaker 3: So yeah, you also lost last year because you had
• 2:55:02
  Speaker 3: long fields. They really lost a position field battle of
• 2:55:06
  Speaker 3: field position last year. They ended up starting inside their
• 2:55:09
  Speaker 3: own fifteen to ten a bunch last year, which sort
• 2:55:14
  Speaker 3: of limited.
• 2:55:14
  Speaker 18: What they could do on offense.
• 2:55:16
  Speaker 3: That was one of the underappreciated elements of why that
• 2:55:20
  Speaker 3: game played out the way that it did. So in
• 2:55:22
  Speaker 3: this case, you're giving up You're not necessarily giving up points,
• 2:55:25
  Speaker 3: but you're giving up thirty yards a field position or
• 2:55:28
  Speaker 3: whatever it is. So yeah, I think the answer is Michigan.
• 2:55:34
  Speaker 3: But there are scenarios where it could be Ohio State,
• 2:55:37
  Speaker 3: but you know, I think those would be real edge case.
• 2:55:41
  Speaker 2: Sinnearia, Can I give you a scenario twenty seven to nothing,
• 2:55:44
  Speaker 2: twenty seven to three Ohio State leading at the half,
• 2:55:48
  Speaker 2: starting off third quarter with an on side kick is.
• 2:55:52
  Speaker 18: Mike Mike Loos is not of the Michigan staff, right.
• 2:55:55
  Speaker 1: You don't want to give Michigan momentum and that could yeah,
• 2:56:02
  Speaker 1: and you wouldn't need it to throw a knockout punch
• 2:56:04
  Speaker 1: because you're already throwing plenty of punches eventually, Yeah, you
• 2:56:07
  Speaker 1: get a fall. So but I throw scenario out there.
• 2:56:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I don't know that that would even
• 2:56:13
  Speaker 3: be an after the half thing. That might be a
• 2:56:17
  Speaker 3: it's twenty four to three, you could a field goal
• 2:56:19
  Speaker 3: go up twenty seven to three, and then you do
• 2:56:22
  Speaker 3: it and you you know something like.
• 2:56:23
  Speaker 1: That, there's like forty seconds left in the half, like
• 2:56:26
  Speaker 1: and you're just trying to get.
• 2:56:27
  Speaker 3: Maybe, but even even then, you're you're even then you're
• 2:56:29
  Speaker 3: setting them up with a short field to give Dominic
• 2:56:32
  Speaker 3: Evada a shot. Boy, I sure hope that injury that
• 2:56:37
  Speaker 3: that uh is that read?
• 2:56:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:56:39
  Speaker 3: Read Texas AM's quarterback looked like he might have had
• 2:56:41
  Speaker 3: a non contact injury that would not.
• 2:56:44
  Speaker 18: Be good for them.
• 2:56:48
  Speaker 3: Then he says, Sean Moore does bring a lot of
• 2:56:49
  Speaker 3: energy that not even Harbor brought. In my opinion, I
• 2:56:52
  Speaker 3: think it is, Yeah, that looks real, real bad. Marcel
• 2:56:57
  Speaker 3: read the quarterback for Texas A and M is down
• 2:56:59
  Speaker 3: and down and doesn't look good. Right now, I think
• 2:57:02
  Speaker 3: Sharon Moore as Michigan's coach is night and day from
• 2:57:05
  Speaker 3: Jim Harball as Michigan's coach, because Sharon Moore feels like
• 2:57:11
  Speaker 3: a normal human being with normal human being emotions and
• 2:57:15
  Speaker 3: thoughts and thought processes and sayings. And you have not
• 2:57:21
  Speaker 3: heard happy Warriors on a happy Journey to Happy Land
• 2:57:25
  Speaker 3: or whatever it was a couple of years ago from Harball.
• 2:57:28
  Speaker 3: Sharon Moore just seems like, you know, Sharon Moore and
• 2:57:30
  Speaker 3: Brian Day, like Lord knows, these are two fan bases
• 2:57:33
  Speaker 3: that do not care for the opposing coach. But those
• 2:57:36
  Speaker 3: seem like two pretty normal human beings in big jobs,
• 2:57:41
  Speaker 3: as opposed to like Urban Meyer and Jim Harball, where
• 2:57:45
  Speaker 3: it was beep boop, beep boop does not know football
• 2:57:48
  Speaker 3: does not compute it was.
• 2:57:50
  Speaker 18: This is a totally different thing.
• 2:57:51
  Speaker 2: Now you have two human beings that are coaching these
• 2:57:55
  Speaker 2: two programs and then probably hate each other's guts. It's like, oh, yeah,
• 2:57:58
  Speaker 2: two decent people who just cannot you know, for obvious reasons.
• 2:58:04
  Speaker 2: But Jim Harbaugh talking with him, it was always difficult.
• 2:58:08
  Speaker 2: Urban it was okay to talk to, but he was a.
• 2:58:11
  Speaker 1: He's a robot as well. It's just a different kind,
• 2:58:13
  Speaker 1: different kind of programming. I think maybe there's more programming
• 2:58:17
  Speaker 1: for Urban where there's less programming for Harbaugh. It's like,
• 2:58:21
  Speaker 1: you know, early AI versus late AI, that sort of thing,
• 2:58:25
  Speaker 1: and Jim Harba was very early AI. So there's only
• 2:58:28
  Speaker 1: so much that you're going to get out of him.
• 2:58:30
  Speaker 1: But also Tom, remember when they were losing five games,
• 2:58:34
  Speaker 1: four games a year for a few years in there,
• 2:58:36
  Speaker 1: until about twenty nineteen twenty twenty, we kept saying, he
• 2:58:41
  Speaker 1: does not look like he's having any fun. There's no energy.
• 2:58:43
  Speaker 1: It's just completely dead. There's no fun in that program.
• 2:58:48
  Speaker 18: And then you know, then he found himself a vacuum
• 2:58:51
  Speaker 18: corn herself.
• 2:58:51
  Speaker 2: I found himself something.
• 2:58:52
  Speaker 1: You know, like when you get a get a daughter
• 2:58:54
  Speaker 1: like a little bit like you do and she's like,
• 2:58:56
  Speaker 1: daddy can have a pony.
• 2:58:58
  Speaker 2: I can do you one better. I can get you
• 2:59:00
  Speaker 2: the stallions.
• 2:59:05
  Speaker 18: Just let that one breathe for a minute, like I
• 2:59:06
  Speaker 18: just swirl the red around in the glass.
• 2:59:09
  Speaker 2: A little bit.
• 2:59:10
  Speaker 12: Mmmm.
• 2:59:15
  Speaker 3: Someone's got a nose on it all right, Next one
• 2:59:18
  Speaker 3: from Vinnie, do you guys think they'll avoid unnecessary penalties?
• 2:59:21
  Speaker 3: Presumably Vinnie might be a Michigan fan, but did I
• 2:59:24
  Speaker 3: presumably Ohio state avoiding unnecessary penalty? Just feel like someone
• 2:59:27
  Speaker 3: will let the emotions get the best of them in
• 2:59:28
  Speaker 3: the moment.
• 2:59:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's been a message all week long, well,
• 2:59:33
  Speaker 1: shoot for years now. Ryan Day says it all the time.
• 2:59:35
  Speaker 1: Play with emotion, don't let emotion play with you, especially
• 2:59:39
  Speaker 1: in this one. And I think Carson Hinman said something
• 2:59:42
  Speaker 1: similar in terms of we can't can't be doing stuff,
• 2:59:45
  Speaker 1: extracurricular stuff in this game. I guess do it before
• 2:59:49
  Speaker 1: the game now, don't do it at all. But it's
• 2:59:51
  Speaker 1: really darn difficult to get so ramped up for this
• 2:59:54
  Speaker 1: and then compose yourself clearly. I mean, we've seen fights
• 2:59:58
  Speaker 1: in this game. We've seen and maybe that's the time
• 3:00:01
  Speaker 1: to get your stuff in, your shoves in as well.
• 3:00:03
  Speaker 1: When you know it's all gonna be offset offsetting penalties.
• 3:00:06
  Speaker 1: Go go get your shoves in. Don't throw any punches,
• 3:00:09
  Speaker 1: no kicks, no knees, no biting, but a couple of
• 3:00:13
  Speaker 1: pushes you know, maybe you can get away with it,
• 3:00:16
  Speaker 1: but really the team that I guess does the best
• 3:00:21
  Speaker 1: with penalties, and because I think really penalties will help
• 3:00:26
  Speaker 1: Michigan a lot, helps them move the ball, but also
• 3:00:30
  Speaker 1: penalties against Ohio States offense, where as long as they're
• 3:00:35
  Speaker 1: on schedule, I think they're going to score. The way
• 3:00:37
  Speaker 1: to keep them from scoring is get them off schedule
• 3:00:39
  Speaker 1: through penalties. And I think in this game for either team,
• 3:00:43
  Speaker 1: holding penalty is pretty much going to doom that drive,
• 3:00:46
  Speaker 1: and so don't you don't get caught.
• 3:00:49
  Speaker 3: Basically, yeah, that's that's good advice for lots of different,
• 3:00:54
  Speaker 3: lots of different That actually ties into the last last
• 3:00:58
  Speaker 3: conversation as well. Dave wants to know, well Tom planting
• 3:01:01
  Speaker 3: a tripod? Will Tom be planting a tripod at midfield
• 3:01:04
  Speaker 3: if he wins bold predictions?
• 3:01:05
  Speaker 18: Well, now I will, or so I'll read up and
• 3:01:08
  Speaker 18: jogging some Texas and may.
• 3:01:10
  Speaker 3: Have avoided what looked like it might have been an
• 3:01:13
  Speaker 3: absolute disaster at Jordan Travis's name in my head there
• 3:01:16
  Speaker 3: for a minute. Oh boy, Yeah, probably probably not going
• 3:01:21
  Speaker 3: to plant. I'm fascinated at what this postgame scene is
• 3:01:27
  Speaker 3: going to be, regardless of who wins.
• 3:01:28
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 3:01:29
  Speaker 18: Sean Moore on Monday said, they've.
• 3:01:32
  Speaker 3: Talked about it.
• 3:01:33
  Speaker 18: They have a plan.
• 3:01:33
  Speaker 3: They're gonna go celebrate with it. They're gonna go game ends,
• 3:01:36
  Speaker 3: you're gonna go shake hands.
• 3:01:37
  Speaker 18: You're gonna go. If you win, you go celebrate with.
• 3:01:39
  Speaker 3: Your fans, your bands and all that stuff. Go celebrate
• 3:01:42
  Speaker 3: with the student section of every is.
• 3:01:45
  Speaker 18: If Ohio State.
• 3:01:46
  Speaker 2: Wins, they're going right to Midfield, you think, I think so.
• 3:01:52
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm I I could see Yeah, maybe.
• 3:01:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe Midfield and then and then off to sing Carmen,
• 3:02:02
  Speaker 1: Ohio to the Ohio State fans and their family.
• 3:02:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think they're going to take a secutest
• 3:02:07
  Speaker 2: route unless maybe Midfield is.
• 3:02:09
  Speaker 1: On the way. But I also don't like we're we're
• 3:02:13
  Speaker 1: big presumption.
• 3:02:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Midfield is not on the way for Ohio State.
• 3:02:17
  Speaker 3: Ohio State's band and is in the corner. You know,
• 3:02:20
  Speaker 3: if you're watching on TV, Ohio States band is in
• 3:02:23
  Speaker 3: the upper right corner of the end zone, and then
• 3:02:26
  Speaker 3: the Ohio States sideline is the far sideline. So you
• 3:02:29
  Speaker 3: know they would come across, presumably to shake hands and
• 3:02:31
  Speaker 3: say hello and all of that, but they would not
• 3:02:34
  Speaker 3: have to go over Midfield to get to where the
• 3:02:37
  Speaker 3: band is.
• 3:02:38
  Speaker 1: So and that's a level of like talking on talking
• 3:02:43
  Speaker 1: to your team on Friday. Hey, when we win, let's
• 3:02:46
  Speaker 1: not do this. Let's not do that, our coaches. So
• 3:02:51
  Speaker 1: these are paranoid people, Yeah are they? Are they too
• 3:02:55
  Speaker 1: paranoid to say, you know, hey, when we win, let's
• 3:02:58
  Speaker 1: not do this. Is that something you don't want to
• 3:03:00
  Speaker 1: put out in the ether. But also if you win,
• 3:03:04
  Speaker 1: if we win, we just go and we sing our
• 3:03:05
  Speaker 1: Alma manter, we shake hands, whatever. Let's not get caught
• 3:03:08
  Speaker 1: up in anything because this is just one game. It's
• 3:03:12
  Speaker 1: the first of the first game on the trophy schedule,
• 3:03:15
  Speaker 1: the award schedule, that the hardware schedule. Now that they're
• 3:03:18
  Speaker 1: playing and this is just one game. It doesn't guarantee
• 3:03:22
  Speaker 1: them the next game or the next game after that.
• 3:03:24
  Speaker 1: So they want to treat it like any other the
• 3:03:29
  Speaker 1: routine things like.
• 3:03:31
  Speaker 2: What's their routine after a win?
• 3:03:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 3:03:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so do they stick to that?
• 3:03:34
  Speaker 18: There?
• 3:03:37
  Speaker 2: The bulk of the team may, but I think there
• 3:03:39
  Speaker 2: could be a couple of people that might.
• 3:03:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in the midfield, I did see the someone say,
• 3:03:47
  Speaker 3: you know, I bet most Yeah here is Vin. He says,
• 3:03:50
  Speaker 3: I hope we just avoid the flag stuff. Why do
• 3:03:52
  Speaker 3: I feel like it would be one of the one
• 3:03:54
  Speaker 3: of the cornerbacks to do it, because well have you
• 3:03:56
  Speaker 3: seen cornerback.
• 3:03:57
  Speaker 18: Cornerbacks tend to have big reactions on the field, so
• 3:04:00
  Speaker 18: why would that be not for.
• 3:04:02
  Speaker 3: The case after the game as well, cornerbacks and wide
• 3:04:04
  Speaker 3: receivers generally.
• 3:04:05
  Speaker 1: Or Yeah, I was on with Steve hall Wagen on
• 3:04:10
  Speaker 1: Bill and Doug on there around the Shoe Show and
• 3:04:12
  Speaker 1: the question was who would planned the flag and started
• 3:04:16
  Speaker 1: talking about probably Jermaine Matthews unless like David nig Gnosen
• 3:04:19
  Speaker 1: takes it from him, that sort of thing. But also,
• 3:04:23
  Speaker 1: planning flags on turf is dumb because the flag doesn't
• 3:04:26
  Speaker 1: stay there, so now you had to hold it, so
• 3:04:28
  Speaker 1: you're not planning flag, you're just holding a flag.
• 3:04:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 3:04:30
  Speaker 18: Yeah, And one thing that's interesting.
• 3:04:33
  Speaker 3: We were not in the facility for Michigan interviews on
• 3:04:36
  Speaker 3: Monday this week, but in previous years we've been in
• 3:04:39
  Speaker 3: there and there's like their football facility, a Shimbecker Hall,
• 3:04:43
  Speaker 3: and there's a museum next door and I'm forgetting the
• 3:04:45
  Speaker 3: name of the museum, but it's like a little museum
• 3:04:48
  Speaker 3: of Michigan football basically, and they have footballs from all
• 3:04:50
  Speaker 3: of their wins. It's a huge wall of footballs and
• 3:04:53
  Speaker 3: you know, here's a picture of Bo Shimbuckler at the
• 3:04:55
  Speaker 3: Rose Bowl and his whistle and his head said, and
• 3:04:58
  Speaker 3: here's the Rose Bowl trophy he wants and whatever.
• 3:05:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it's called Connor's Honors.
• 3:05:06
  Speaker 18: And one of the things they have in they're right.
• 3:05:08
  Speaker 3: The first thing when you walked in the door a
• 3:05:10
  Speaker 3: couple of years ago, this was twenty twenty three when
• 3:05:14
  Speaker 3: we walked in there and saw this was they have
• 3:05:17
  Speaker 3: the flag that they planted at midfield and Columbus and
• 3:05:20
  Speaker 3: the you know, a big picture and the newspaper headlines
• 3:05:24
  Speaker 3: and whatever else like it is. It is not something
• 3:05:26
  Speaker 3: they've shied away from. And I do remember last year
• 3:05:29
  Speaker 3: I was in the Michigan post game after the game,
• 3:05:31
  Speaker 3: and I think it was Donovan Edwards, who uh you know,
• 3:05:35
  Speaker 3: basically said, well, you know, you know you had they
• 3:05:37
  Speaker 3: had the flag plant the flag planting, and then you.
• 3:05:39
  Speaker 18: Had the fight and then you had the pepper spray.
• 3:05:42
  Speaker 3: And Donovan Edwards take was, you know, well, they've got
• 3:05:45
  Speaker 3: to learn how to live. They've got to lose with class.
• 3:05:48
  Speaker 3: So you know, if Ohio State does do that, if
• 3:05:51
  Speaker 3: someone does do.
• 3:05:52
  Speaker 18: That, I'll be fascinated to see what the reaction to
• 3:05:54
  Speaker 18: that is, because you know it's uh.
• 3:05:57
  Speaker 1: Ryan Day did say there's gonna be some videos shown
• 3:05:59
  Speaker 1: of you know, imagine you can imagine what's going to
• 3:06:02
  Speaker 1: be on those videos.
• 3:06:07
  Speaker 18: Yeah, here's it. Here's an interesting one from Ralph.
• 3:06:09
  Speaker 3: Ralph with a Michigan helmet in his logo and Ralph
• 3:06:12
  Speaker 3: go blewis as his trying to provide in the spirit
• 3:06:16
  Speaker 3: of sportsmanship, trying to provide a potential upside for Ohio
• 3:06:18
  Speaker 3: State fans. If Ohio State loses, there is a bright side.
• 3:06:21
  Speaker 3: You will be the fifth seed and get the G
• 3:06:23
  Speaker 3: five team in the playoffs. You know, looking at some
• 3:06:27
  Speaker 3: of the scenarios in the playoff, you might be better
• 3:06:31
  Speaker 3: off being the five seeds. Then you get the twelve,
• 3:06:36
  Speaker 3: which is going to be you know, Tulaine or someone
• 3:06:39
  Speaker 3: like that, and then you get the four seed. You know,
• 3:06:42
  Speaker 3: find the playoff rankings from this week.
• 3:06:47
  Speaker 18: Make sure this is that's not the right one.
• 3:06:48
  Speaker 1: And again Ohistate has never lost a twelve team playoff
• 3:06:51
  Speaker 1: after losing to Michigan, So that's true. There is history
• 3:06:54
  Speaker 1: on their side if that were to happen. Yes, So
• 3:06:57
  Speaker 1: here's I'll just pop this up real quickly.
• 3:06:59
  Speaker 3: This is Thekings from this week, just so you can
• 3:07:02
  Speaker 3: sort of see where things stand right now, and this
• 3:07:04
  Speaker 3: is obviously going into this week and a lot of
• 3:07:06
  Speaker 3: stuff still to come. Ohio State as the one seed,
• 3:07:10
  Speaker 3: assuming you know, if if the playoffs started today, which
• 3:07:13
  Speaker 3: obviously doesn't, but Ohio State is a one seed, would
• 3:07:15
  Speaker 3: play Oklahoma and Notre Dame the Oklahoma Notre Dame winner,
• 3:07:18
  Speaker 3: which to me is probably Notre Dame. Notre Dame is
• 3:07:21
  Speaker 3: a team I wouldn't be super thrilled to see as
• 3:07:23
  Speaker 3: an Ohio State, an Ohio State fan. If you're the
• 3:07:27
  Speaker 3: five seed, you get Tulane, which yeah, fine, and then
• 3:07:31
  Speaker 3: you get Georgia, which that's the other team I probably
• 3:07:33
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be super thrilled to see, although Georgia did not
• 3:07:36
  Speaker 3: look amazing against Georgia Tech today. You know, but if
• 3:07:39
  Speaker 3: you're if you're if you can follow to the four seed,
• 3:07:43
  Speaker 3: then you get Texas Tech and Tulane and Texas Tech
• 3:07:47
  Speaker 3: is like wildly, you know, wildly unproven. Right now, you know,
• 3:07:52
  Speaker 3: there's I think there's a there's several spots on that
• 3:07:57
  Speaker 3: bracket that I might rather be than the one seed.
• 3:08:00
  Speaker 3: You know, I think the number two seed might be
• 3:08:02
  Speaker 3: in a better spot than the number one seed. If
• 3:08:04
  Speaker 3: you know, if you have to play Notre Dame and
• 3:08:06
  Speaker 3: Georgia in your first two games, that wouldn't you know that?
• 3:08:09
  Speaker 3: That's obviously again, this is not the final bracket. Ohio
• 3:08:12
  Speaker 3: States still has to win two more games to be
• 3:08:14
  Speaker 3: the number one seed. But other than yeah, you get
• 3:08:17
  Speaker 3: to go to the Rose Bowl, which, again, if you
• 3:08:19
  Speaker 3: get to go there, if your team is there, you
• 3:08:21
  Speaker 3: should make that trip because that is awesome. It is
• 3:08:23
  Speaker 3: my favorite place to watch a game, great experience. You
• 3:08:26
  Speaker 3: should make that trip. But the number one seed on
• 3:08:30
  Speaker 3: that bracket is not a particularly advantageous spot.
• 3:08:33
  Speaker 2: To be, I don't think.
• 3:08:34
  Speaker 1: And it'll be interesting to see this year if once
• 3:08:37
  Speaker 1: again it does not pay to be the number one seed,
• 3:08:39
  Speaker 1: because it certainly did not pay for Oregon last year.
• 3:08:42
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's the product of teams getting better
• 3:08:46
  Speaker 1: over the course of a year and losing in different
• 3:08:49
  Speaker 1: parts of the year like Ohio State did last year,
• 3:08:52
  Speaker 1: and then they run into Oregon after a decent Tennessee game,
• 3:08:59
  Speaker 1: like for sure, but like they just joe started themselves
• 3:09:03
  Speaker 1: last year. It's like, Okay, we're full of speed now.
• 3:09:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 3:09:06
  Speaker 2: I just saw you scored ten points against Michigan.
• 3:09:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you came in and then you went
• 3:09:10
  Speaker 1: and whooked up on Tennessee, and then you did the
• 3:09:12
  Speaker 1: same thing to Oregon, and it was it was impressive
• 3:09:17
  Speaker 1: last year. This year they seemed to be on a
• 3:09:18
  Speaker 1: much better trajectory. We'll see what happens though.
• 3:09:23
  Speaker 3: Yep, JJ Smith season says I'm late. So are Smith,
• 3:09:27
  Speaker 3: Tate and Lorenzo playing? So we can tell you all
• 3:09:30
  Speaker 3: three of those guys are here. Brian Day did confirm
• 3:09:33
  Speaker 3: they're all here. You know, Lorenzo Styles was supposedly practicing
• 3:09:38
  Speaker 3: all League, so I don't think there's really much of
• 3:09:39
  Speaker 3: a conversation around him. I think he's I would fully
• 3:09:42
  Speaker 3: expect him to play Carnell Jeremiah, they're here. The smile
• 3:09:47
  Speaker 3: on Ryan Day's face, you know, and we'll play this
• 3:09:51
  Speaker 3: in a minute. We'll play this in a minute so
• 3:09:52
  Speaker 3: you can see it and judge for yourself. But this smile,
• 3:09:56
  Speaker 3: the kind of little smirk on Ryan Day's face as
• 3:09:58
  Speaker 3: he answered that question, lead me to believe that you know,
• 3:10:02
  Speaker 3: they're not out, you know, I think we can safely
• 3:10:05
  Speaker 3: say they're not out.
• 3:10:06
  Speaker 18: We can say they're here. It's cold.
• 3:10:10
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow do they wake up and you know someone is
• 3:10:12
  Speaker 3: stiff that they you know, something happens. We'll see they're here.
• 3:10:18
  Speaker 3: I don't have any reason to believe they're out. We'll
• 3:10:21
  Speaker 3: see how they get goes tomorrow morning. But I mean here,
• 3:10:25
  Speaker 3: let's just let's just play the Ryan Day video. This
• 3:10:28
  Speaker 3: is the team arrival earlier, just so you can sort
• 3:10:31
  Speaker 3: of see Ryan Day that we'll let you just hear
• 3:10:33
  Speaker 3: the whole interview just for people who joined us late.
• 3:10:37
  Speaker 3: So this will be like the team buss is pulling
• 3:10:38
  Speaker 3: up and then Ryan Day getting off the bus and
• 3:10:40
  Speaker 3: then I have to kind of like hustle over to
• 3:10:42
  Speaker 3: go get a good spot. But you'll be able to
• 3:10:43
  Speaker 3: hear the whole thing. We'll play the whole interview for
• 3:10:45
  Speaker 3: you and then we'll keep we'll answer some more questions.
• 3:10:47
  Speaker 3: If you do have more questions, throw them in the
• 3:10:49
  Speaker 3: chat for us.
• 3:10:50
  Speaker 7: But on the.
• 3:10:51
  Speaker 19: Bottom of.
• 3:10:54
  Speaker 11: The walk over here time around the side.
• 3:11:01
  Speaker 8: Brian ar Jeremiah Carnell here, very good to go.
• 3:11:04
  Speaker 9: They are on the trip and looking for a good
• 3:11:06
  Speaker 9: night of preparation or just yeah, I just flew in.
• 3:11:09
  Speaker 9: It was a great flight and looking forward to having
• 3:11:11
  Speaker 9: a great preparation tonight, We'll continue to do that all
• 3:11:14
  Speaker 9: the way to kick off and exciting.
• 3:11:16
  Speaker 7: How do you think your team prepared for this test?
• 3:11:18
  Speaker 10: Well, very similar to how we have all year.
• 3:11:22
  Speaker 9: A little extra focus, just a different look in their
• 3:11:25
  Speaker 9: eye this week, and so I want to continue that
• 3:11:28
  Speaker 9: tonight and then you know, wake up in the morning
• 3:11:30
  Speaker 9: with great.
• 3:11:30
  Speaker 10: Energy and go get away.
• 3:11:31
  Speaker 6: I know the emotion, but I know it's an early
• 3:11:34
  Speaker 6: lights out for you on these Neon games. How do
• 3:11:36
  Speaker 6: you guys actually sleep on a night like this before
• 3:11:37
  Speaker 6: a game like this?
• 3:11:38
  Speaker 9: Well, it's funny, you know, It's just that's why you
• 3:11:41
  Speaker 9: try to get sleep early in the week because it's
• 3:11:43
  Speaker 9: a little bit harder for a game like this for sure.
• 3:11:45
  Speaker 10: But we'll do the same routine and make sure you
• 3:11:48
  Speaker 10: have a great meal. We'll do bedcheck and get them
• 3:11:49
  Speaker 10: better early.
• 3:11:50
  Speaker 11: You talk about playing with the motion, but not a
• 3:11:52
  Speaker 11: the most will play with you. How do you slowly
• 3:11:54
  Speaker 11: let that balance out here as you ramp up and
• 3:11:56
  Speaker 11: get closes as a.
• 3:11:57
  Speaker 10: Kickoff, Well, you just keep talking to the guys about it,
• 3:11:58
  Speaker 10: have a plane when they get when they get on
• 3:11:59
  Speaker 10: the field.
• 3:12:00
  Speaker 9: And what that comes with, and just been talking to
• 3:12:02
  Speaker 9: it all Well, We're talking about it every day all
• 3:12:04
  Speaker 9: week about what that looks like and the focus that
• 3:12:06
  Speaker 9: needs to happen in this game. And then we just
• 3:12:08
  Speaker 9: we all have to do our job. And that's really
• 3:12:09
  Speaker 9: what it comes down to when any type of mission
• 3:12:11
  Speaker 9: that everybody has a job they have to do and they.
• 3:12:12
  Speaker 10: Have to execute and they get on the field. So
• 3:12:15
  Speaker 10: you know, that's that's been it, and that's that's going
• 3:12:16
  Speaker 10: to continue to be the best Spello way to kick up.
• 3:12:18
  Speaker 12: You feel like you have a good handle on what
• 3:12:19
  Speaker 12: kind of weather are conditions you're gonna face.
• 3:12:21
  Speaker 13: You just have to kind of roll over the punches tomorrow.
• 3:12:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think kind of like this. You'll have some
• 3:12:26
  Speaker 10: snow later in the game.
• 3:12:26
  Speaker 9: But but no, it's the same for both teams and
• 3:12:29
  Speaker 9: they can't wait for it.
• 3:12:30
  Speaker 14: You've got feet on the ground now inside the stay
• 3:12:32
  Speaker 14: in Michigan.
• 3:12:33
  Speaker 13: What does it like to be here in the excitement
• 3:12:34
  Speaker 13: as we've approached this.
• 3:12:35
  Speaker 9: There's there's a good bounce on everybody's step right now,
• 3:12:38
  Speaker 9: So you know, put us focus on tonight and having
• 3:12:41
  Speaker 9: a good meal and keeping the guys locked in.
• 3:12:43
  Speaker 7: Thanks.
• 3:12:45
  Speaker 2: Can I mention a good bounce in everybody's step tonight?
• 3:12:50
  Speaker 2: Even those who might be ailing or questionable or otherwise.
• 3:12:56
  Speaker 3: A lot of that was in parentheses after the direct quote,
• 3:12:59
  Speaker 3: but that's okay. We'll report that as accurately as we can.
• 3:13:05
  Speaker 3: Geiger Lee says, there's only one battle to win. Scoreboard.
• 3:13:09
  Speaker 3: Please remember that, Ryan, you know, I think that's a
• 3:13:12
  Speaker 3: lesson that Ryan Day learned last year, that you don't
• 3:13:16
  Speaker 3: need to win the game a certain way.
• 3:13:19
  Speaker 18: And he's I mean, he learned that last year, to
• 3:13:22
  Speaker 18: the point that we've heard that from him.
• 3:13:26
  Speaker 3: We've heard that from him again, We've heard that from players,
• 3:13:28
  Speaker 3: We've heard that from I mean everyone this week. We
• 3:13:31
  Speaker 3: can always tell what the message inside the locker room
• 3:13:33
  Speaker 3: is because we hear those words coming out of everyone's mouth,
• 3:13:36
  Speaker 3: and that was one of the things that we heard
• 3:13:38
  Speaker 3: coming at everyone's mouth this week.
• 3:13:39
  Speaker 1: I also think last year he talked so much about toughness.
• 3:13:43
  Speaker 1: We haven't really heard that much this year. The message
• 3:13:46
  Speaker 1: this year has been routine, and so they've gone from
• 3:13:50
  Speaker 1: being the tougher team, which every team strives to do,
• 3:13:54
  Speaker 1: to let's just do what we do and it's always
• 3:13:56
  Speaker 1: about us, and as long as we are where we
• 3:13:59
  Speaker 1: need to be, we're going to be okay. And so
• 3:14:01
  Speaker 1: there's sticking to their routine and again we'll see.
• 3:14:06
  Speaker 3: Here's a good we'll see. Dave wants to know, has
• 3:14:08
  Speaker 3: anyone thought about the weather. Don't pay it affects the game.
• 3:14:11
  Speaker 3: Just making sure Tom packed enough layers. Yes, I was
• 3:14:13
  Speaker 3: in three layers for the for the team arrival. We'll
• 3:14:17
  Speaker 3: probably be in three.
• 3:14:18
  Speaker 18: Layers again tomorrow.
• 3:14:19
  Speaker 3: So I will probably look a little like Ralphie's brother
• 3:14:22
  Speaker 3: in a Christmas story on the field between three layers
• 3:14:26
  Speaker 3: and then a photo vest on top of that, I'll
• 3:14:28
  Speaker 3: kind of look with.
• 3:14:28
  Speaker 18: The michelin man. But yeah, it'll be it'll be fine.
• 3:14:31
  Speaker 3: It won't be This will not be as cold as
• 3:14:34
  Speaker 3: the Tennessee game last year was. And when you're down
• 3:14:38
  Speaker 3: on the field, it's fine. And if you're in the stands,
• 3:14:41
  Speaker 3: you're fine because you're packed in so tightly like this is.
• 3:14:44
  Speaker 3: You do not get one hundred and ten thousand people
• 3:14:45
  Speaker 3: in a stadium by having lots of elbow room between people.
• 3:14:48
  Speaker 3: So if you're there, you know the players on the
• 3:14:51
  Speaker 3: field to be running around, they'll be fine, and everyone
• 3:14:53
  Speaker 3: else be packed in tightly enough that they'll be fine.
• 3:14:55
  Speaker 18: So yeah, it should be should be fine.
• 3:14:57
  Speaker 1: The hourly forecast kickoff twenty nights degrees, rising to thirty
• 3:15:02
  Speaker 1: degrees by the end of the game, with some possible
• 3:15:04
  Speaker 1: snow in the three o'clock hour. Most likely after that though.
• 3:15:09
  Speaker 18: So I'm hearing postgame show snow.
• 3:15:12
  Speaker 1: Well again, we'll see how long we were out there.
• 3:15:16
  Speaker 1: We'll be out there as long as we can stand it,
• 3:15:18
  Speaker 1: where as long as I can stand it.
• 3:15:19
  Speaker 3: Because I'm dainty, how many precious how many super chats
• 3:15:23
  Speaker 3: for Tony to do a snow angel on the field,
• 3:15:25
  Speaker 3: win or lose, And I will remind you are committing
• 3:15:27
  Speaker 3: to do this.
• 3:15:28
  Speaker 18: Win or lose.
• 3:15:29
  Speaker 2: No, I have not. At first, There's not going to
• 3:15:32
  Speaker 2: be any snow to angel.
• 3:15:33
  Speaker 18: One thousand dollars. You say, all right, well you heard
• 3:15:37
  Speaker 18: it here first, Tony Gerderman, I brackets.
• 3:15:42
  Speaker 2: We'll do snow.
• 3:15:43
  Speaker 18: Angels for you heard it? Name here, name here, Guy Gerlee.
• 3:15:50
  Speaker 18: This is a great question. Is this the first game
• 3:15:51
  Speaker 18: of the year when these two teams might not defer
• 3:15:53
  Speaker 18: to the second half.
• 3:15:57
  Speaker 1: Routine? You guys stick with the routine, and I don't think.
• 3:16:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think taking the ball first here is a
• 3:16:03
  Speaker 1: good idea for either team. In big games like this,
• 3:16:07
  Speaker 1: I always say go defense first, let the other team
• 3:16:10
  Speaker 1: screw around, and because you're asking a lot to be
• 3:16:13
  Speaker 1: able to just execute on that first drive with your offense,
• 3:16:16
  Speaker 1: but things are ramped up as possible. Even though Tom
• 3:16:18
  Speaker 1: it's scripted, this is your best opportunity.
• 3:16:21
  Speaker 2: I think you got to let things calm down, and
• 3:16:23
  Speaker 2: it's by the time you get out there for that
• 3:16:26
  Speaker 2: second drive you might be better off, more ready to
• 3:16:31
  Speaker 2: go because the game is kind of it's begun now. Yeah,
• 3:16:34
  Speaker 2: Like when you get the ball first, you are beginning it.
• 3:16:36
  Speaker 2: When he gets the ball second, it's already begun, right.
• 3:16:39
  Speaker 18: Yeah.
• 3:16:40
  Speaker 3: Ryana is such a big believer in that middle eight
• 3:16:42
  Speaker 3: that I really struggle to see him.
• 3:16:44
  Speaker 18: Being willing to not do that.
• 3:16:48
  Speaker 3: And you know, I think I'm sure they would love
• 3:16:50
  Speaker 3: to go out. And if you've told him I guarantee
• 3:16:53
  Speaker 3: you you will score a touch onto the open drive, yeah,
• 3:16:55
  Speaker 3: then maybe he does it.
• 3:16:56
  Speaker 18: But there are no guarantees.
• 3:16:58
  Speaker 3: If Michigan gets the ball first and you stop them
• 3:17:01
  Speaker 3: or you can turn them over or whatever, maybe take
• 3:17:04
  Speaker 3: the crowd out of the game a little bit.
• 3:17:06
  Speaker 18: It's offensive for the short field breaking Sirve. Yeah, exactly.
• 3:17:10
  Speaker 3: Uh, this is one from way earlier, but it was
• 3:17:12
  Speaker 3: still start in here, so hopefully we got to this
• 3:17:14
  Speaker 3: one earlier. Devin Paul valued members at Buckehudle dot com
• 3:17:17
  Speaker 3: appreciate you guys. Can you say happy anniversary to my
• 3:17:20
  Speaker 3: husband Paul.
• 3:17:21
  Speaker 18: Which I would guess that means that probably happy aniversary
• 3:17:25
  Speaker 18: to Devin as well.
• 3:17:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul recovering from his second knee replacement thirty six
• 3:17:29
  Speaker 3: years November thirtieth. Happy anniversary. Man, those those joint replacements,
• 3:17:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know those are. That's that is a rough one,
• 3:17:37
  Speaker 3: but once you get through it. This is this is
• 3:17:39
  Speaker 3: me speaking for older relatives who have had them, but
• 3:17:43
  Speaker 3: it is life changing, which I'm guessing if it's the
• 3:17:46
  Speaker 3: second one, you probably already know that.
• 3:17:47
  Speaker 18: But happy anniversary and actually get anniversary.
• 3:17:51
  Speaker 3: Billy Tuesday says, don't know what it means, but this
• 3:17:53
  Speaker 3: is the most relaxed I've seen Ryan Day.
• 3:17:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it means Well, we'll find out,
• 3:17:59
  Speaker 1: but it sure seems like it means something, and he
• 3:18:01
  Speaker 1: has been very relaxed. Sure On Moore is very relaxed.
• 3:18:04
  Speaker 1: So something is going to uh, somebody's going to be
• 3:18:07
  Speaker 1: lying or something's going to have to happen there. But
• 3:18:10
  Speaker 1: we've seen a very relaxed Ryan Day all season long.
• 3:18:14
  Speaker 1: He even said it back in the spring. Basically, I
• 3:18:16
  Speaker 1: think it was a spring like when he was asked,
• 3:18:18
  Speaker 1: are you more relaxed? Can you relax now after winning
• 3:18:20
  Speaker 1: the National Championship, He's like, yeah, I can relax. It
• 3:18:23
  Speaker 1: was like yeah, there's this chuckle of yeah, now I can.
• 3:18:26
  Speaker 1: Actually you can breathe a little bit as new host
• 3:18:28
  Speaker 1: they head coach. But again, don't lose.
• 3:18:31
  Speaker 3: Right, well, yeah you can, you can, you can breathe
• 3:18:34
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 3:18:37
  Speaker 18: Don't lose this game.
• 3:18:39
  Speaker 3: It's you know, he was relaxed in April when we
• 3:18:43
  Speaker 3: had their March, when we had that conversation, it's like, boy,
• 3:18:45
  Speaker 3: you seem a little more relaxed, like you think so
• 3:18:48
  Speaker 3: like yeah, no, do do you need me to tell
• 3:18:50
  Speaker 3: you why?
• 3:18:51
  Speaker 2: I bet you.
• 3:18:51
  Speaker 3: Don't need me to tell you why. But now it's
• 3:18:55
  Speaker 3: not going to be if they lose on Saturday, it's
• 3:18:58
  Speaker 3: not the same thing as it was a year ago,
• 3:19:00
  Speaker 3: because number one, you have the national championship. So he's
• 3:19:03
  Speaker 3: now not the guy who can't win the big one.
• 3:19:05
  Speaker 3: He's the guy who won four big ones in a
• 3:19:07
  Speaker 3: row and then beat Texas, so it was five big
• 3:19:10
  Speaker 3: ones in a row and has won fifteen games in
• 3:19:12
  Speaker 3: a row, and so if you lose one on Saturday,
• 3:19:16
  Speaker 3: it's not.
• 3:19:17
  Speaker 18: The end of the season. It's not the end of
• 3:19:18
  Speaker 18: the world.
• 3:19:19
  Speaker 3: But I'm sure he would much, strongly, strongly prefer to
• 3:19:22
  Speaker 3: win that game.
• 3:19:23
  Speaker 2: On side, it is interesting how last year could be
• 3:19:25
  Speaker 2: considered a big game, but wins over better teams than
• 3:19:30
  Speaker 2: Michigan did not qualify.
• 3:19:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tyler says, I'm confident that the Buckeyes are finally going
• 3:19:38
  Speaker 3: to get the job done. If both teams play their
• 3:19:44
  Speaker 3: A games, Ohio State wins. If both teams play their
• 3:19:46
  Speaker 3: B plus games, Ohio State wins. If both teams play
• 3:19:49
  Speaker 3: their C minus games, Ohio State wins. Michigan would have
• 3:19:51
  Speaker 3: to outplay Ohio State. And there's a certain point at
• 3:19:55
  Speaker 3: which Ohio State controls that. At that point, you know
• 3:19:58
  Speaker 3: that's Ohio State control the outcome to a certain degree
• 3:20:02
  Speaker 3: because if both teams play to their best, Ohio State wents.
• 3:20:06
  Speaker 1: What was last year like B minus to D minus,
• 3:20:08
  Speaker 1: B minus to F game.
• 3:20:11
  Speaker 18: Like, Well, here's the thing that there was not an
• 3:20:14
  Speaker 18: A game for Michigan.
• 3:20:15
  Speaker 3: It wasn't an A game for Michigan. But also given
• 3:20:17
  Speaker 3: the competition like that Michigan offense. You knew going in
• 3:20:20
  Speaker 3: that Michigan offense was not going to do much. So
• 3:20:23
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know what last.
• 3:20:24
  Speaker 18: Year's Michigan's offense was capable of an a game that
• 3:20:30
  Speaker 18: may have been you know that that the scale might
• 3:20:32
  Speaker 18: have ended at B minus for that Michigan offense last year.
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  Speaker 1: I think the grades there were just past fail or
• 3:20:37
  Speaker 1: asked for satisfactory like you're six years old.
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  Speaker 18: Maybe got a crocodile in spelling. That was Michigan offense
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  Speaker 18: last year. Doug Shepherds as the team at buck Huddleland
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  Speaker 18: busting their hump all week. Like the video please listen.
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  Speaker 2: We the comments, Yeah, videos, I appreciate you. Man.
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  Speaker 18: This is I don't know what the context was when
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  Speaker 18: this when this came out.
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  Speaker 3: But Underwood thirty seven point five percent completion percentagegainst top
• 3:21:00
  Speaker 3: twenty very low.
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  Speaker 18: That does seem low.
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  Speaker 3: We can pull up a price Underwood game log real
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  Speaker 3: quick and we can see if that's right. That does
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  Speaker 3: That does seem very low. But he did you know,
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  Speaker 3: he did not have a great game against Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: He was against Oklahoma. He was thirty seven point five
• 3:21:21
  Speaker 3: percent and against USC. Well, USC, he was sixty two
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  Speaker 3: point five.
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  Speaker 2: So you know us C is USC not a teams.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so and that was incredible. Look you yeah
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  Speaker 3: good math I added them together. Yeah, I know how
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  Speaker 3: to thank you. Thirty seven point five percent. That's week
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  Speaker 3: two against Oklahoma. So I think I wouldn't take that
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  Speaker 3: and say, well, that's what he's going to be on Saturday,
• 3:21:50
  Speaker 3: because we two against Oklahoma. I think you could look
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  Speaker 3: at week one against Texas for Ohio State and go
• 3:21:55
  Speaker 3: they don't trust Julian saying to do anything. It's like, yeah,
• 3:21:58
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of water under the break since then, two.
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  Speaker 1: Hundred and seventy yards of total offense for Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: in that game. That's not how anybody's judging the Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State offense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Sam says, they're in the UK. What time does
• 3:22:10
  Speaker 3: the game start? It's noon Eastern for the United States.
• 3:22:13
  Speaker 2: Six fifteen pm.
• 3:22:15
  Speaker 3: This is in case five hours ahead, so five pm
• 3:22:20
  Speaker 3: UK time. As the is what I've been told from.
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  Speaker 18: The Peanut gallery.
• 3:22:25
  Speaker 3: Ohio books are like the Tom and Tony Bold predictions.
• 3:22:28
  Speaker 3: The line on Tom and Tony Bold predictions. I don't know,
• 3:22:31
  Speaker 3: are you is it a pickam? Are you a slight
• 3:22:34
  Speaker 3: favorite this week?
• 3:22:35
  Speaker 18: What do you think?
• 3:22:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 3:22:36
  Speaker 1: Now that you've introduced half points, I'm a little concerned
• 3:22:39
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 3:22:41
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, what is the average score?
• 3:22:44
  Speaker 1: It's usually like one an It's like Iowa football, take
• 3:22:48
  Speaker 1: the under, whatever it is, take the under. Now, the
• 3:22:51
  Speaker 1: number would probably be like the scoring number for US both.
• 3:22:57
  Speaker 1: Is it two and a half seams high? You might
• 3:22:59
  Speaker 1: just have to, but you don't want to go two.
• 3:23:01
  Speaker 1: You want to encourage, So I guess you have to
• 3:23:04
  Speaker 1: go one and a half.
• 3:23:05
  Speaker 3: And we could push on one and a half this
• 3:23:07
  Speaker 3: week because I do have a one and a half pointer,
• 3:23:09
  Speaker 3: so possibly.
• 3:23:13
  Speaker 18: Here's this is an interesting one. Where would you rank
• 3:23:16
  Speaker 18: the game tomorrow?
• 3:23:17
  Speaker 3: Of the games pass? So part of this is ask
• 3:23:21
  Speaker 3: again on the postgame show tomorrow. This is a game
• 3:23:26
  Speaker 3: where it's Ohio States number one. Michigan is also ranked
• 3:23:28
  Speaker 3: or fifteen. So you look at that and go, well,
• 3:23:32
  Speaker 3: this is gonna be one of the great games. And
• 3:23:33
  Speaker 3: it's like, well, Ohio State's been top two or three
• 3:23:36
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 3:23:37
  Speaker 18: The last five or six years.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's like every time when these teams play,
• 3:23:42
  Speaker 3: Ohio State is at least a top five team.
• 3:23:45
  Speaker 1: Twenty three, was it two versus three? Yeah, and it's like, eh,
• 3:23:49
  Speaker 1: nobody really cares about that.
• 3:23:50
  Speaker 3: One, right, And well, that one, I mean that one
• 3:23:52
  Speaker 3: was a big one because Michigan ended up winning the
• 3:23:54
  Speaker 3: national championship. But you know, twenty twenty two was a
• 3:23:58
  Speaker 3: big one. They both made the Team College Football Playoff
• 3:24:01
  Speaker 3: that year. Michigan made the playoff. In twenty one, they
• 3:24:04
  Speaker 3: didn't play. In twenty twenty nineteen, Ohio State made the playoff.
• 3:24:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is just kind of this is a
• 3:24:10
  Speaker 3: game where it's number one versus number fifteen, and this
• 3:24:13
  Speaker 3: just kind of feels like an average Ohio State Michigan game.
• 3:24:17
  Speaker 4: At this point.
• 3:24:17
  Speaker 3: It just feels like every year you've got at least
• 3:24:21
  Speaker 3: one of these teams is in potential, you know, position
• 3:24:23
  Speaker 3: make the playoffs, and this year you've got potentially too.
• 3:24:26
  Speaker 1: I do wonder about Michigan's chance if they beat Ohio
• 3:24:29
  Speaker 1: State of getting into the playoffs, because I still don't
• 3:24:32
  Speaker 1: know that the committee is going to want to jump
• 3:24:34
  Speaker 1: or dump out Alabama or Notre Dame in favor of Michigan.
• 3:24:39
  Speaker 1: And right now Alabama is still well, Alabama's out there's there,
• 3:24:46
  Speaker 1: out of the picture by one game against in terms
• 3:24:48
  Speaker 1: of the SEC Championship game rights, Texas A and M
• 3:24:52
  Speaker 1: and Georgia right now? Is that correct? I don't know,
• 3:24:57
  Speaker 1: but I know Alabama at ten?
• 3:25:00
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 3:25:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, if Alabama wins out, Alabama's in. If Alabama loses,
• 3:25:06
  Speaker 3: they're probably out, so Texas.
• 3:25:08
  Speaker 18: If Texas beats Texas A and M tonight, that probably changes. Yes,
• 3:25:13
  Speaker 18: but that but if Texas Texas is.
• 3:25:15
  Speaker 3: Currently ahead of Michigan in the brankings, aren't they No, no,
• 3:25:19
  Speaker 3: oh no, they're one spot behind.
• 3:25:20
  Speaker 18: But if Texas beats Texas.
• 3:25:22
  Speaker 3: A and M and Michigan beats Ohio State, then those
• 3:25:27
  Speaker 3: two teams are probably both right on the bubble there.
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  Speaker 5: Let's see.
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  Speaker 18: I'm just kind of going through.
• 3:25:37
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 3:25:38
  Speaker 3: Here's here's a comment of the day, Uncle Rico. This
• 3:25:40
  Speaker 3: is still going good, Lord, extremely same sixteen. Yeah, we're
• 3:25:45
  Speaker 3: at three and a half hours now. So if you
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• 3:25:52
  Speaker 3: We're we are gonna be wrapping up things. I'm just
• 3:25:56
  Speaker 3: kind of scrolling through real quick. The Indie is up
• 3:26:00
  Speaker 3: fourteen to three. Learning that now Ohio State basketball up
• 3:26:04
  Speaker 3: by two with six minutes left. Scrolling through these comments goodness, gracious,
• 3:26:11
  Speaker 3: you people are keeping us active.
• 3:26:12
  Speaker 18: This is uh oh. Buster wants to know if the
• 3:26:14
  Speaker 18: drive to ann Arber's as bad as Happy Valley. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 3:26:19
  Speaker 18: no no.
• 3:26:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's Happy Valley is at least five hours,
• 3:26:24
  Speaker 3: and then sometimes it's another five hours once you actually
• 3:26:27
  Speaker 3: get off the highway trying to get into the stadium.
• 3:26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:26:31
  Speaker 3: And you know, there's been comments about the Searon Moore,
• 3:26:35
  Speaker 3: is he coaching for his job or anything like that. No,
• 3:26:37
  Speaker 3: Charon Moore is not close to getting fired, as Ralph says,
• 3:26:40
  Speaker 3: you know, he's he's in a you know, I think
• 3:26:42
  Speaker 3: there was conversation about that earlier in the year where
• 3:26:46
  Speaker 3: you know, if they had lost the Purdue in Northwestern
• 3:26:49
  Speaker 3: games that they could have lost and they're coming in
• 3:26:53
  Speaker 3: here at what seven and four, and then you lose
• 3:26:57
  Speaker 3: by twenty something points it's tomorrow. Yeah, then you're gonna
• 3:27:01
  Speaker 3: probably have a conversation. They have handled their business. This
• 3:27:05
  Speaker 3: is a team with a first year true freshman starting quarterback.
• 3:27:09
  Speaker 3: If they go nine and three, that's not a bad season.
• 3:27:12
  Speaker 3: That's that's a that's a perfectly you know, you're you're
• 3:27:15
  Speaker 3: on the periphery of the college football playoff conversation right now,
• 3:27:18
  Speaker 3: with a true freshman quarterback and your best receiver is
• 3:27:21
  Speaker 3: a true freshman like this is, and they've had a
• 3:27:23
  Speaker 3: bunch of bat they've had bad injury luck this year
• 3:27:25
  Speaker 3: as well, all of that. You know, I don't think
• 3:27:29
  Speaker 3: I think I could say quite confidently Sean Moore is
• 3:27:31
  Speaker 3: going to be the guy getting off the bus in
• 3:27:33
  Speaker 3: Columbus next.
• 3:27:34
  Speaker 1: November nine and three is what Michigan is and has
• 3:27:36
  Speaker 1: always been. So that's you're not getting fired for that.
• 3:27:41
  Speaker 1: I know some fans are already fed up with him because
• 3:27:44
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't be this close to bad teams. Yeah, but
• 3:27:48
  Speaker 1: nine and three, eight and four, Jim Harbaud did that,
• 3:27:50
  Speaker 1: Lloyd car did Lake Carr was seven to five. Gary Mueller, Like,
• 3:27:54
  Speaker 1: that's Michigan football. I know people don't want to believe it.
• 3:27:57
  Speaker 1: Michigan fans don't want to believe it. Then it definitely is.
• 3:28:00
  Speaker 1: Remember even a few years back, maybe ten years ago,
• 3:28:03
  Speaker 1: where Michigan's ten win seasons could be like counted on
• 3:28:07
  Speaker 1: maybe one hand in Ohio stand like four times three
• 3:28:10
  Speaker 1: four times. Oh yeah, yeah, ten win seasons. That's Michigan football.
• 3:28:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was well, yeah, Michigan. Michigan was great at
• 3:28:18
  Speaker 3: a time when it was very hard to get to
• 3:28:20
  Speaker 3: eleven wins, you know, in the nineteen seventies when you're
• 3:28:22
  Speaker 3: playing eleven regular season games and then a bowl.
• 3:28:25
  Speaker 18: Game for some teams.
• 3:28:27
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it is Ohio State has I forget what
• 3:28:30
  Speaker 3: the stat was. It was it was like ten years ago.
• 3:28:32
  Speaker 3: It was like Ohio State had more twelve win seasons
• 3:28:34
  Speaker 3: in the previous six years than Michigan had in their
• 3:28:36
  Speaker 3: program history or something like that.
• 3:28:38
  Speaker 18: So yeah, it is a.
• 3:28:42
  Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely, uh you know, this is one of these
• 3:28:45
  Speaker 3: Michigan fans can do the fun with historical facts thing too,
• 3:28:48
  Speaker 3: where it's like you know, yeah, yeah.
• 3:28:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Alixama just has to win. They're in the SEC
• 3:28:53
  Speaker 2: championship game. Okay, there you go.
• 3:28:55
  Speaker 3: Luke says, sorry, just tuning in now to be learning
• 3:28:57
  Speaker 3: anything where JJ and Carnell at least there, Yes, they
• 3:29:00
  Speaker 3: JJ and Carnell were at least at least the y Yes,
• 3:29:03
  Speaker 3: Ryan Day confirmed, Yes, Giger Lee says, this is approaching Jerry.
• 3:29:06
  Speaker 18: Lewis telethon length. Yes, Happy Labor Day everyone, uh.
• 3:29:11
  Speaker 3: Had shown that timpany warre Pug says Bill Bucks and
• 3:29:15
  Speaker 3: thank you for everything you folks at bucket huddle war
• 3:29:19
  Speaker 3: Pug wants to know who snorees louder that it's okay,
• 3:29:23
  Speaker 3: we don't need to we don't need to blow.
• 3:29:24
  Speaker 18: Up Tony spot. It's fine and let's don't hear it.
• 3:29:33
  Speaker 3: Uh Geiger want Lee wants to know did the team
• 3:29:36
  Speaker 3: have people that stay up at night watching the fire
• 3:29:39
  Speaker 3: alarm pull boxes to make sure no one plays any
• 3:29:41
  Speaker 3: games to ruin the sleep and that that is like
• 3:29:43
  Speaker 3: this long history of this series where you know Michigan
• 3:29:46
  Speaker 3: would go downtown Michigan, stay downtown Columbus at one of
• 3:29:49
  Speaker 3: the hotels and like, oh, there never.
• 3:29:51
  Speaker 18: Be hot water on the day of the game, son
• 3:29:52
  Speaker 18: of a gun? How'd that happen?
• 3:29:54
  Speaker 3: And you have Yeah, you'd have the fire alarms going
• 3:29:56
  Speaker 3: off when Ohio States staying up here whatever. Yeah, this
• 3:29:59
  Speaker 3: is I'm sure that there are Ohio State has lots
• 3:30:02
  Speaker 3: of people on staff. I'm sure they are making short
• 3:30:04
  Speaker 3: like they used to have to do bed checks. It
• 3:30:06
  Speaker 3: doesn't feel like you probably in his video. Yeah yeah,
• 3:30:10
  Speaker 3: but I mean like I but in terms of like,
• 3:30:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think you have to like sit there and
• 3:30:13
  Speaker 3: make sure people aren't like sneaking this is yeah, yeah.
• 3:30:17
  Speaker 1: Players, yes, yeah, but also you know you've got enough staffers,
• 3:30:20
  Speaker 1: you might just PLoP somebody in a chair below, like
• 3:30:23
  Speaker 1: right next to.
• 3:30:23
  Speaker 2: Each fire a line. Yeah, yep. There there were Miskin
• 3:30:27
  Speaker 2: fans at the arrival.
• 3:30:28
  Speaker 18: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
• 3:30:29
  Speaker 2: One of one of those, a loyal viewer saying hello
• 3:30:32
  Speaker 2: to us.
• 3:30:32
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 3:30:32
  Speaker 18: Vinnie says, when do the players get rewarded the gold pants?
• 3:30:35
  Speaker 18: That is after the season. Yeah, that's in.
• 3:30:39
  Speaker 4: After this.
• 3:30:40
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 3:30:40
  Speaker 18: I was gonna say, is that like spring game time?
• 3:30:42
  Speaker 18: It's a round spring.
• 3:30:43
  Speaker 3: Because it's like they will bring the previous years guys back.
• 3:30:47
  Speaker 3: H So yeah, that is not you know, that's not
• 3:30:49
  Speaker 3: you know, next week or anything like that. So all right, Yeah,
• 3:30:53
  Speaker 3: says it sounds like five five hours of content to rewatch,
• 3:30:56
  Speaker 3: rewind and watch. I'll put the coffee on, yes, please do,
• 3:30:58
  Speaker 3: we will. We will have We have lots of content here,
• 3:31:03
  Speaker 3: We have lots of content in the Buckeye Weekly podcast feed.
• 3:31:06
  Speaker 3: We have lots of content on our YouTube channel.
• 3:31:08
  Speaker 18: In case you.
• 3:31:10
  Speaker 3: In case you have not seen Tony and I did
• 3:31:13
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a preview over in front of
• 3:31:15
  Speaker 3: Michigan Stadium earlier, give you a little look around. If
• 3:31:18
  Speaker 3: you look on our YouTube shorts, I did a just
• 3:31:21
  Speaker 3: a little kind of like walk around just to give
• 3:31:23
  Speaker 3: you sort of a little bit of lay at the land.
• 3:31:24
  Speaker 3: There will do much more on Saturday before the game.
• 3:31:30
  Speaker 3: We're at three hours and thirty five.
• 3:31:32
  Speaker 18: To six minutes.
• 3:31:33
  Speaker 3: I think we have possibly talked this entire thing out
• 3:31:35
  Speaker 3: and Tomorrow morning good news. Tomorrow morning, around nine forty
• 3:31:39
  Speaker 3: or so, you will get to hear us talk all
• 3:31:40
  Speaker 3: over again, but we will do it inside the stadium.
• 3:31:44
  Speaker 3: Tony and Kevin will be up in the press box.
• 3:31:45
  Speaker 3: I will be out getting hopefully video of teams arriving.
• 3:31:49
  Speaker 18: So yeah, it is a it's going to be a
• 3:31:52
  Speaker 18: long day tomorrow, pregame, postgame. This would absolutely thank you
• 3:31:58
  Speaker 18: Luke for saying we have absolutely crushed it this. We
• 3:32:00
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