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Wellness Wisdom and Whimsy in the World of Dr. Tommy Martin · In Moderation

0:18
Speaker 1: We are now on what?
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Speaker 1: Episode 35?
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Speaker 1: .
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Speaker 1: I think we're at episode 35?
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Speaker 1: , you wouldn't know.
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Speaker 2: Why am I asking you?
0:23
Speaker 2: Why are?
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Speaker 1: you the fuck looking at me like that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why.
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Speaker 2: Why do I even bother?
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Speaker 2: I have no idea.
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Speaker 1: We are on episode 35.
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Speaker 1: We're going with that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'll check later.
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Speaker 1: And for our special guest today, we have not Tommy Chong Tommy.
0:38
Speaker 2: Chong.
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Speaker 2: I like Tommy Chong yeah.
0:41
Speaker 1: But unfortunately this is not Tommy Chong.
0:43
Speaker 1: I like Tommy Chong, yeah.
0:46
Speaker 3: But unfortunately this is not Tommy Chong, which is fantastic, but he is a doctor, he is a doctor yeah, so we'll give him points for that who is Tommy Chong oh no, you don't know, cheech and Chong oh gosh, this is bad we're getting off to a bad start.
1:01
Speaker 2: We're getting ready for a bad start.
1:03
Speaker 2: Cheech and Chong Okay, two guys just high constantly.
1:08
Speaker 2: Should I walk out?
1:09
Speaker 2: Always high?
1:12
Speaker 3: Should I walk out of the?
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Speaker 2: podcast.
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Speaker 1: No, you're fired, get out of here.
1:15
Speaker 2: No no, no, no.
1:15
Speaker 2: After this, you go look up Cheech and Chong and laugh your ass off, because they're great.
1:20
Speaker 2: They're just always stoned out of their minds.
1:22
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:24
Speaker 1: It was like we're talking 1960s stuff.
1:27
Speaker 1: They were the iconic.
1:29
Speaker 1: You get high all the time and you're just stoned through life, tommy.
1:34
Speaker 2: Chong's still around.
1:35
Speaker 2: I saw him do hot ones.
1:36
Speaker 2: I was like dude.
1:37
Speaker 2: This guy's like 70 years old and killing it.
1:39
Speaker 2: It's awesome.
1:42
Speaker 1: Anyway, yeah, we need to bring on doctors to give us a little credibility.
1:46
Speaker 2: So, dr, dr martin, we're gonna do that to make us sound fancy how you doing all right well, not trying not trying.
1:57
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he'll look it up later.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll check it out, I'll check it out later.
2:01
Speaker 3: uh, my name's Tommy.
2:02
Speaker 3: I'm a.
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Speaker 3: As the guys had said, I'm a doctor.
2:05
Speaker 3: I am a physician of internal medicine and pediatrics, working out of Massachusetts currently and originally from the Midwest.
2:13
Speaker 3: I'd say that I also am a content creator.
2:16
Speaker 3: Maybe a lot of different content lifestyle content, medical education, fitness, health, wellness.
2:22
Speaker 3: You know, tons of different types of content.
2:25
Speaker 3: I have a wife and a child.
2:27
Speaker 3: I spend a lot of time with them and making content about my son, who is the most incredible human in the universe and I say that he has a extremely rare genetic disorder where there's only about 400 children in the world with it and he is defying all odds and he's the most loving and joyous human and I just feel so honored to be his father.
2:47
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I spent a lot of time with him.
2:49
Speaker 3: And then I'm a I would say, an avid amateur athlete.
2:52
Speaker 3: I love triathlons, bodybuilding, marathons, currently training for a marathon.
2:57
Speaker 3: So so that's a little bit of my life in a nutshell.
3:01
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you make a lot of content, but I think the most important content that you've made is and we definitely have to talk about this pooping your pants while running a marathon.
3:13
Speaker 1: Oh, I did say that.
3:14
Speaker 1: What's the deal with that?
3:15
Speaker 1: That went viral.
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Speaker 1: I had a different thing you were going to go with.
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Speaker 2: But we'll go with my topic later.
3:19
Speaker 2: We can start off with poop pantsing.
3:21
Speaker 2: Poop pantsing.
3:24
Speaker 3: First with my topic.
3:24
Speaker 3: Later we can start off with poop pantsing.
3:25
Speaker 2: Poop pantsing First of all have either of y'all ever done that Can't say I have.
3:27
Speaker 2: Since I was a toddler.
3:29
Speaker 2: No, I can't say that yeah you know.
3:32
Speaker 3: So it's called the running trots is what a lot of people call it.
3:36
Speaker 2: I like poop pantsing better.
3:37
Speaker 2: I feel like they could have come up with a better name, but that's Okay, go ahead.
3:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, a better name.
3:49
Speaker 3: But that's okay, go ahead.
3:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely could have come up with a better name.
3:51
Speaker 3: So, actually, the guy who did it him and I, uh, we talk quite a quite often now, but this video went viral of this guy who has went insanely viral on Instagram recently uh, davis Clark, and he ran a marathon and in this marathon he pooped his pants, but he didn't stop and went through the finish line and made a video about it.
4:03
Speaker 3: So I, of course, had to stitch it and talk about the medical side of it and why this happens.
4:08
Speaker 3: So, when you're running and you get to a certain exertion level, your body starts shunting blood to the organs or the body parts that are working Right, and so that'd be your legs, that'd be the rest of your muscles, and blood flow is not going to your GI system, and so when that happens, the response to that is it kind of, you know, the stool just goes out of you and, unfortunately, when you're pushing that hard, you're not thinking of contracting your anus or your anal sphincter, and so it's hard to try to contract that while running really hard and your body is saying, look, I need to be focused on muscles that are working right now and not the GI system.
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Speaker 3: Also, when it's doing that, it's causing ischemia, or the decreased blood flow is causing ischemia to the bowels itself, which, in severe cases, can actually cause intestinal bleeding.
5:04
Speaker 3: Now, that's pretty rare, but that does happen as well, and so, in the response to that, you get massive diarrhea, and it's extremely common.
5:13
Speaker 1: Well then.
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Speaker 1: So next time anybody has any trouble pooping, they can just hop on a treadmill.
5:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure I just encouraged a lot of people to run.
5:22
Speaker 3: Now Everyone's going to sign up for a marathon after this podcast.
5:25
Speaker 2: So you do triathlons then.
5:27
Speaker 2: So like, what's the deal?
5:28
Speaker 2: Do people plan for this?
5:28
Speaker 2: Or like, okay, I'm going to keep a spare pair of underwear in here and then I'm just going to swap it out halfway through?
5:33
Speaker 2: Or does like he just did and you just power through and be like, deal with it, and then I'll go viral.
5:38
Speaker 2: Is that the plan?
5:39
Speaker 2: Like what's going on?
5:40
Speaker 3: Great question.
5:41
Speaker 3: They actually make a device that you put in your tri-suit, that you just poop in and so you never have to stop racing.
5:48
Speaker 3: You just poop in this device and then, like, as you're, you know cycling or something, you just empty it out in the trash can or something.
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that's what the people in Wally, like the big people in Wally, wore, or something like that.
5:58
Speaker 3: Okay, that's like that.
6:09
Speaker 3: Okay, that's completely made up.
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Speaker 3: No one does that.
6:10
Speaker 3: There's not a device like that, but no, so I can try it.
6:12
Speaker 3: Like a lot of it's nutrition and so you try to do things to eliminate this from happening.
6:13
Speaker 3: So, like what I do is, my last big meal is at lunch, the day before, and it's something easily digestible and then so like white rice or something, um, and then the next 24 hours or next 18 hours, I I really don't eat much and the rest of my carb sources are liquid and then so, hopefully, that I get a drink coffee in the morning, get a good bowel movement out of the way to reduce that from happening.
6:35
Speaker 3: But if you have to, they have porta potties.
6:36
Speaker 3: Like there are bathrooms that you could use.
6:40
Speaker 1: So it's a race to the bathroom in that case.
6:45
Speaker 2: I've always been a little iffy on running marathons in general, so I think this is just one extra tick, box, box tick that I can just be like yeah and no thanks, I'm just not listen.
6:52
Speaker 2: I I'm gonna be honest with everybody I I don't like running.
6:55
Speaker 2: I've said I've.
6:56
Speaker 2: I've said it a few times on my channel.
6:58
Speaker 2: I find it about as much fun as sandpapering my taint like I really just don't like.
7:11
Speaker 2: Have you been listening to coach jeremy again running over just the same thing over and over?
7:13
Speaker 2: It's a little monotonous for me.
7:14
Speaker 2: I need listen.
7:14
Speaker 2: Give me a ball, give me a target, give me something.
7:16
Speaker 2: I need something in there to keep it interesting.
7:19
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm thinking what did she say Football, oh football.
7:24
Speaker 2: I said football, football, football.
7:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to go play some football, I would take.
7:28
Speaker 2: I would still take football, slash soccer over running and just like just running any of the day of the week.
7:34
Speaker 2: So, dr Tommy, what's wrong with you is basically my question.
7:37
Speaker 2: Why do you enjoy this terrible task that people have all decided they're going to do?
7:45
Speaker 3: That is a great question.
7:46
Speaker 3: I was the same as you and the the furthest I had ever ran before meeting my now wife was to the refrigerator right, like that's all the running I was doing yeah uh.
7:57
Speaker 3: But then I met this girl and I she said that I said like hey, if you work out with me, like lift weights with me, I'll go on a run with you.
8:06
Speaker 3: I don't believe I said that Like I was not that like crazy, like to say that I would go running.
8:12
Speaker 1: Were you high when you did it?
8:12
Speaker 1: I must've been.
8:14
Speaker 3: Must've been, Just disclaimer.
8:17
Speaker 3: Never been high, but going on, moving on, Not Chong Distinction has been made.
8:25
Speaker 3: But so we went on a run together and it was a 10-mile run and stress fracture later, pride broken.
8:33
Speaker 3: I was like I am terrible at this and that was the worst thing I've ever done in my life and I don't want to be terrible at it.
8:39
Speaker 3: So I signed up for a marathon.
8:40
Speaker 3: So you just didn't want to be bad at something.
8:43
Speaker 2: So I signed up for a marathon.
8:43
Speaker 2: So you just didn't want to be bad at something.
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Speaker 2: Enough right to suffer through it yeah, and then after two and a half years, I started liking it two and a half took a couple years so it only takes two and a half years to like the worst thing on the planet.
8:56
Speaker 2: That's good to know, that's I'll start any day now so I was actually.
9:03
Speaker 3: It's funny that you guys asked this question.
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Speaker 3: I was out of the fact that, like we all probably hate running, but someone had asked me this before and on my run this morning I was actually thinking about it and I actually posted this on Instagram and what I wrote was like why do I like endurance sports?
9:18
Speaker 3: And what I got from it was it's a sense of fulfillment through pushing to the point of exhaustion and emptiness, where the mind and the body reach a state of complete surrenderance and vulnerability.
9:27
Speaker 3: In these moments, the desperation discovers a sense of clarity and resilience, realizing the depths of your own strength and determination.
9:34
Speaker 3: So to me, I think that's what it is is that, like, I get pushed to this place where I never thought I was capable of reaching, and then I can go one more step and then after that.
9:44
Speaker 3: I can go one more one more step one more step.
9:48
Speaker 2: The same thing, but that's just about weight.
9:49
Speaker 2: Weightlifting I like the exact same thing, but just for lifting weights Like I, that's what I enjoy, Like you kind of just push yourself to exhaustion.
9:56
Speaker 2: You're just like, wow, everything I had.
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Speaker 1: But with running, you have that sense of pride at the end of the run that you didn't poop yourself.
10:04
Speaker 2: If you didn't poop yourself, right if you didn't, which is a big if, apparently.
10:08
Speaker 2: So I'm going to stick with the guaranteed, not well, maybe not guaranteed, almost guaranteed, not pooping myself while I mean people have certainly sharted themselves in the gym.
10:17
Speaker 1: You walk past the leg press when somebody's got like a lot of it's just so much bo.
10:20
Speaker 1: But here's the thing A lot of it is just so much BO.
10:23
Speaker 2: But here's the thing like running you just have to run for like hours, whereas weightlifting you just do a set and then you're just exhausted and you recover and you get to do another one and you kind of get that continual like again and again, whereas running is just like this, just constant.
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Speaker 2: I'm just so bored, right now hours and I see a tree
10:41
Speaker 2: is there anything that just could make me happier?
10:43
Speaker 2: Like I, I just I can't get.
10:45
Speaker 2: So, yeah, a running is gonna be, I think, a no for me.
10:49
Speaker 2: So okay, all right.
10:50
Speaker 2: All right, we talked about running I need to bring up.
10:52
Speaker 3: I think I think we should start a marathon.
10:54
Speaker 3: This podcast starts the running trots marathon and you have to take a laxative your pants.
11:02
Speaker 2: You have to take a laxative before and whoever doesn't poop their pants wins I I wow this seems like no one wins it seems like every single
11:15
Speaker 1: we can sell shirts.
11:15
Speaker 1: I survived the running trot marathon I this.
11:20
Speaker 2: Where's the upside?
11:21
Speaker 2: I don't know if there is an upside is potential problems, that will do it running trots in moderation I don't, I like okay, hold on no no, no, no, no, no, no, because we named our, our, our podcast, in moderation and then, like running to the point where you shit yourself, I gotta say that just doesn't sound like moderation very much.
11:43
Speaker 2: I got to throw that out there, that seems like an extremity.
11:49
Speaker 1: We'll call it severity in severity.
11:51
Speaker 2: Welcome to in severity, where we shit ourselves when we go running anyway.
11:56
Speaker 2: All right, listen, listen.
11:59
Speaker 2: I'm done with.
11:59
Speaker 2: I'm done with the pooping pants.
12:00
Speaker 2: I need to listen.
12:01
Speaker 2: No-transcript, the three things.
12:35
Speaker 2: And you blend that in a in a blender and you drink it and it's supposed to help you lose a ton of weight crazy amounts of weights, if you listen to people on the interwebs.
12:44
Speaker 2: Now, now, I know, now, tommy, I know you've kind of, uh, taken this under your I don't know how to describe this.
12:53
Speaker 2: You, you've coerced it a little bit.
12:54
Speaker 2: Let me just put it that way.
12:55
Speaker 2: Let me get your take right off the bat, just kind of on oats, epic and what you're doing yeah for sure.
13:01
Speaker 3: So my whole thing is like if someone wants to make healthy food a fad, I'm all for it.
13:06
Speaker 3: I don't care what they add to it.
13:08
Speaker 3: Like if they want to add some lemon juice to some oatmeal and call it this miracle thing, I'm all for people eating oatmeal daily and so like.
13:14
Speaker 3: When all this trend and this craze was going on, I made a video talking about oat zempic and pretty much just outlined like oatmeal is good for you.
13:24
Speaker 3: It contains fiber, there's a lot of research about the cardiovascular benefits that benefits even in patients with type two diabetes and all of these things.
13:31
Speaker 3: And just saying like, look, there's nothing magic to it.
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Speaker 3: It's just the fact that people are now eating oatmeal daily, which keeps you full longer and it's probably half the amount or a fourth the amount of calories that you normally eat breakfast.
13:41
Speaker 3: And so like.
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Speaker 3: I got reached out to by probably 10 different news stations to talk about oat zimba.
13:47
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, yeah.
13:50
Speaker 2: And like it's just oatmeal guys that both surprises me and doesn't surprise me at all.
13:53
Speaker 2: At the same time, it's very interesting because, like that, is something that they would latch on to.
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Speaker 3: Right, and so the premise is it's oatmeal guys.
14:07
Speaker 2: Like Right, and so the premise is it's oatmeal, guys, like it's a healthy, healthy breakfast and you could eat it however the heck you want.
14:10
Speaker 2: You know.
14:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what I loved about you, what you were doing, you're like okay.
14:12
Speaker 2: But okay, listen, what if we took this trend and we removed the bullshit?
14:14
Speaker 1: Okay, what if we just got rid?
14:16
Speaker 2: of the nonsense.
14:17
Speaker 2: Okay, you were cause.
14:17
Speaker 2: Your videos were like okay, I'm going to do oat something, but I don't have lime and I don't have water either, so what I do have is oats, and I've also got peanut butter.
14:26
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna blend this up and I'm gonna add in, you know, cinnamon, because it makes it taste good, or whatever and this is my oat zempic.
14:33
Speaker 2: I'm like that's just blended oats which I'm like.
14:35
Speaker 2: If to me and to me and people were just like, yeah, that's just oats, I'm like it is.
14:40
Speaker 2: But honestly, I'm at the desperation point here.
14:43
Speaker 2: People, I will do whatever it takes to get you to eat a nutritious food.
14:47
Speaker 2: I don't fucking care.
14:48
Speaker 2: Like if that's like the apple cider vinegar thing.
14:51
Speaker 2: People like take shots what you know.
14:52
Speaker 2: Okay, so everybody you know you take shots of apple cider vinegar and it makes you lose weight.
14:55
Speaker 2: It would be like if I took that and was like okay, what if, instead of taking a shot of that, you put a little bit in a cup with some olive oil, salt pepper, some seasoning and you pour that over a salad with that which had shrimp on it?
15:07
Speaker 2: Now I'm taking my shot of apple cider vinegar, but in a not dumb way, in a less stupid idea.
15:13
Speaker 2: Right, that's basically what it is, and if that's and we, if we could just call it that like I take your shot of apple cider vinegar as I eat my shrimp salad, I don't fucking care.
15:21
Speaker 2: So if you want to call it like oat zempic and just drink whatever oat smoothie there is, that's fine that's yeah, no, I I mean, I agree completely.
15:31
Speaker 3: And it's so crazy because, like a lot of these uh stations and stuff was like, well, so does it actually compare to ozempic?
15:37
Speaker 3: Like, will you lose the same amount as ozempic?
15:39
Speaker 3: Oh god, no, like no stretch of the imagination, like there's nothing special about that drink.
15:47
Speaker 2: That would even make it close to the biochemical makeup of what the glp-1 agonist medications do and that's right, so yeah there was another dietician that was like drink your tea because it's it's nature's ozempic and it's just like, sure, things like tea and you know maybe have some caffeine and these things are kind of can reduce appetite.
16:04
Speaker 2: Sure, would it be to anywhere the extent of a medication like Ozempic?
16:09
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
16:10
Speaker 2: But like, if you want to tell yourself these are nature's Ozempic, then I don't fucking care.
16:15
Speaker 2: I still got to get on the bean jar out.
16:17
Speaker 2: We were going to go with bean jar, yeah, we were.
16:20
Speaker 2: I still need to do that.
16:21
Speaker 2: That's my next plan.
16:22
Speaker 3: What was that lagloom glutide?
16:29
Speaker 1: but, guys, with that you don't put the lime in the oat, you're not, and drink it all up yeah, so it's.
16:38
Speaker 2: It's just kind of all that.
16:39
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I think all of us were just.
16:42
Speaker 2: You know, tommy and I and the other people were just we're at the desperation point, we're just like whatever it takes to get you to consume oats.
16:48
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right, like it's like the news places.
16:50
Speaker 2: They just want that like catchy thing.
16:53
Speaker 2: Like doctor says the oats are just as good as you know weight loss drug or something like that.
16:58
Speaker 2: Right, you know that right you know right.
16:59
Speaker 3: And what's insane is like there's a new fad like this that comes around every.
17:03
Speaker 2: I mean we see it all the time on tiktok right, like every week, there's a month or so, a couple months, it's always something.
17:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's insane.
17:09
Speaker 3: Um, yeah, you know what is?
17:13
Speaker 1: as good as weight loss drugs.
17:15
Speaker 2: Weight loss drugs, that's why they're weight loss drugs, that's right yeah.
17:20
Speaker 3: So something I was going to say is, like ozempic we had just recently, um, or liam had said, like people use it for weight loss, which is very true, right, um, yes, but these medications, like they're also used for diabetes.
17:30
Speaker 3: That's what ozempic's approved for.
17:31
Speaker 3: It would go be as approved for weight loss a manjaro, um, there's a lot of them coming out and, like, a lot of these medications are, you know, very beneficial weight loss.
17:40
Speaker 3: But if anybody is selling you anything outside of the actual medications and say that they're going to be as efficacious as these weight loss medications or bariatric surgery, they're lying like there's.
17:51
Speaker 3: We have never seen anything, um, to result in this kind of sustainable weight loss long term outside of these medications.
17:59
Speaker 3: Now, for some people who may not struggle with obesity as a chronic disease, can do like moderate weight loss with lifestyle modifications and keep it off.
18:08
Speaker 3: Now, the people who struggle with obesity and do lifestyle modifications and intensive therapy and things like that, they might have considerable weight loss, but oftentimes they still struggle regaining the weight back.
18:19
Speaker 2: That's the thing I see the most right, Tommy.
18:21
Speaker 2: It's just like you look at any diet, like there's been like meta analyses where they look at a ton of different diets and no matter what, 90, 95% of the time people end up gaining the weight back later.
18:32
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I'm just kind of fascinated by like the only thing that really seems to be somewhat, or at least more permanent, is bariatric surgery.
18:41
Speaker 2: Just, you know, that's that's like the one thing that seems to maybe lead to more long-term weight loss.
18:46
Speaker 2: Everything else is just like people gain the weight back and I'm kind of fascinated by that and I have no idea how to tackle it, but I want to do, I want to be able to.
18:54
Speaker 2: I don't know.
18:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so hard and you know, just to be transparent here, like my whole family battles obesity Every single person except for my older sister who's 5 foot 110 pounds and eats McDonald's for every meal.
19:46
Speaker 3: But the rest of my family members, we all battle obesity and I would say I was pretty overweight at one point in my life too.
19:51
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, my mom and my sisters and my dad like failed diet after diet after diet and just fail and fail and fail and fail.
19:58
Speaker 3: Uh, and then I will say that these medications have been life changing for them.
20:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I talked to so many people that say like this is finally the thing that, that did it.
20:07
Speaker 2: And I'm just like I don't know.
20:09
Speaker 2: I feel like I've talked about this before, but I just feel like, as humans, we're just designed to overeat a little bit, like that's what kept us alive in our past.
20:19
Speaker 3: And then when you put this McDonald's environment around us, it's just like we're not overeating on lettuce anymore.
20:26
Speaker 1: We're overeating on a Big Mac which is freaking delicious and usually taking the lettuce off delicious.
20:34
Speaker 2: We now usually taking the lettuce off.
20:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, and it's the thing, it's like.
20:36
Speaker 2: These come like the.
20:36
Speaker 2: I can't blame a company for making something as tasty as possible, right, like the right.
20:40
Speaker 2: The whole point of company is to make money.
20:42
Speaker 2: So what are they going to do?
20:43
Speaker 2: Make something as tasty as possible for as cheap as possible, like that's just.
20:48
Speaker 2: Are you going to expect anything?
20:50
Speaker 2: And then charge as much as possible and then charge as much as possible and then make as much as possible, like that is, this is capitalism, baby.
20:56
Speaker 1: Let's go Welcome to capitalism Right.
20:59
Speaker 2: Like so.
20:59
Speaker 2: And now we have like, literally just like these food engineers that just design food to be as hyperpalatable as possible.
21:07
Speaker 2: Who has ever eaten a Dorito and been like fucking gross, get that shit out of here?
21:11
Speaker 2: Nobody.
21:12
Speaker 2: You eat the whole bag and say, yes, please, like so it's.
21:16
Speaker 2: And so you put somebody who's humans.
21:19
Speaker 2: I feel like we are just kind of designed to eat a little bit extra just in case you know that next famine is coming around, because that's what's kept us alive in the past.
21:26
Speaker 2: And now we just have all this hyper palatable food everywhere.
21:30
Speaker 2: And so now we've gotten to the point where tommy and I are like, hey, oat zempik is a thing, is it real?
21:35
Speaker 2: Kind of not really, but we'll do whatever we can at this point yeah, to get you to eat some oatmeal.
21:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you guys saw this, but mcdonald's is coming out with their biggest burger yet.
21:45
Speaker 3: Uh, it's supposed to be like double the size of, like their double quarter pounder or something.
21:51
Speaker 2: It's ginormous well, because if I've we were um, um, we've, we've talked with um, was it?
21:58
Speaker 2: I'm laying on the mic, mike, mike chef mike, yeah, chef mike.
22:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, chef mike, who does who?
22:04
Speaker 2: He used to be a corporate mcdonald's head chef and he's talked about in videos how they're kind of like going away from making things as cheap as possible, you know, like that dollar menu.
22:13
Speaker 2: They're kind of going away from that and going more towards I don't even know exactly, but basically they're they're they're not offering as many cheap options and so maybe they're just going the big route, like here's the biggest fucking burger possible.
22:26
Speaker 1: I don't know like I'm very curious.
22:28
Speaker 2: they seem to be struggling a little bit, so they're trying to figure, figure out.
22:32
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.
22:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, I shouldn't sidetrack us too much, but I went to Subway the other day and I bought a footlong.
22:38
Speaker 3: A footlong at Subway was $14.
22:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow.
22:43
Speaker 3: Like what in the world?
22:45
Speaker 3: Like I used to buy three footlongs for the same price, yeah.
22:49
Speaker 2: The $5 foot long is long gone.
22:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know food prices and that's the thing, like for a lot of my videos that do a little, that do better, are like where I'm talking about price because I think so all your videos do well like I don't even know what you're talking about in relation the videos that do better than other videos.
23:07
Speaker 2: I don't know, leave me alone, I'm figuring shit out here.
23:09
Speaker 2: Okay, that where they talk about price, because I think so many people are just struggling with, um, the price of food.
23:16
Speaker 2: Right, it's just going up.
23:17
Speaker 2: So I think that's another place where we're like hey, uh, fucking oats are cheap, so oats are cheap and nutritious, so we're gonna call it oats and big and we're gonna.
23:24
Speaker 2: You're gonna deal with it okay, because that's just that's what we got at this point, whatever is.
23:29
Speaker 2: I talk about beans a lot like you try, because, yeah, you go out to like mcdonald's subway shit's actually getting.
23:34
Speaker 1: It's expensive, way more expensive than I remember yeah, yeah dang, yeah, you could totally buy all the raw ingredients and make that sub for a fraction of the price, but you'd have to put the effort in and you have to have the knowledge to do that.
23:49
Speaker 2: That's another thing.
23:50
Speaker 2: You have to have the time.
23:51
Speaker 2: A lot of people have families.
23:52
Speaker 2: You know the know that people both parents, are working.
23:54
Speaker 2: Fuck.
23:54
Speaker 2: I've got a seven-month-old.
23:56
Speaker 2: My wife isn't even working anymore and we're still drowning.
23:59
Speaker 2: How can people fucking do it?
24:01
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense.
24:03
Speaker 2: How are we all existing?
24:04
Speaker 2: That's what I want to turn us to.
24:05
Speaker 2: How are we all surviving at this point?
24:11
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm love Well, love well.
24:13
Speaker 3: Actually, I don't even know if we can say that I don't know.
24:15
Speaker 2: Desperation and drugs at this point, like caffeine like it's just desperation.
24:20
Speaker 1: Caffeine caffeine is what it is I have way too much.
24:24
Speaker 1: I've drank an entire pot of coffee today.
24:27
Speaker 2: Let's go, yeah exactly, oh, and so that's the other thing.
24:30
Speaker 2: Like tell me, you remember the other video I did a video on on this, this, this one video?
24:34
Speaker 2: And then you did, and then like that news article picked up or whatever where we were talking about a woman that was.
24:39
Speaker 2: She was basically like shaming people in poverty by talking about food stamps and the people who are what people buy on food stamps, like people, people have food stamps by ultra processed foods that we shouldn't even allow them to be buying these foods.
24:50
Speaker 2: And we're like do you fucking like people people on food stamps buy ultra processed foods.
24:52
Speaker 2: We shouldn't even allow them to be buying these foods.
24:55
Speaker 2: And we're like do you fucking like people on food stamps are they're struggling, like I've been there, I've been on food stamps multiple times, you're getting fucking by.
25:03
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, if this pizza is gonna feed me, that's what I'm gonna get.
25:07
Speaker 3: So it's just like super shitty, like ah, and so that's back to the price thing yeah, and so, like we both made a video on that and I had a swarm of people in her corner like come and attack me for the video that I made, when she was shaming people like the one of the most vulnerable population groups we have, and they were shaming those people for what they're buying with their food stamps and you've been on food stamps, I was on food stamps for the majority of my life and, like you said, it's like it was just about survival right I I'm not worried about.
25:41
Speaker 2: Like, oh, does this have seed oils in it?
25:43
Speaker 2: Like, get I, this feeds me tonight.
25:46
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm trying to survive and I don't need fucking I'm sorry to all the karens, but I don't need karen here to tell me that I'm, you know, killing myself because I'm buying this ultra processed foods and uh, it just I don't know.
26:00
Speaker 2: And that same creator, remember she.
26:02
Speaker 2: I remember she sold fucking um, so I think I think she was what's the, what, the mlm, the, the fiber one of them, yeah you know, rob.
26:12
Speaker 3: What's the?
26:13
Speaker 2: unicity, unicity, yeah, I think she was selling unicity and I'm just like, oh great, sell people fucking 200 packets of fiber and then shave them.
26:20
Speaker 2: Shame them for buying ultra processed foods.
26:22
Speaker 2: Get fucked like honestly, yeah, yeah, it was rough.
26:28
Speaker 3: I tried to be loving and caring um to her and her swarm of people, but then they started telling people who have cardiovascular disease to stop taking their statins and to take the things they were selling.
26:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was just like you can't do that, Like you cannot tell people that's had a heart attack to stop taking their cardiovascular meds for the medication you're selling.
26:54
Speaker 3: It's like what in the world?
26:56
Speaker 2: God, yeah, I respect you and, like other people who are like kind of nice about it, I just I like I can't, it's too much with these fucking people.
27:06
Speaker 1: Well, especially when somebody is telling people to stop taking medication, yeah, Right yeah.
27:13
Speaker 1: Like that's.
27:13
Speaker 1: That's straight up life threatening right there.
27:16
Speaker 3: Right, like, I feel like, like that there should be a lawsuit or something I don't know.
27:20
Speaker 3: It's insane.
27:21
Speaker 2: Yeah.
27:21
Speaker 2: So, tommy, what do you see outside?
27:22
Speaker 2: Cause we do.
27:23
Speaker 2: I see a lot.
27:24
Speaker 2: I get tagged in a lot of your videos that have to do with nutrition, but I know you do a lot of stuff.
27:27
Speaker 2: What's the other shit besides like nutrition, like in the health space, that you just see and you're like fuck this again, like I gotta go over this shit again, cause I'm sure you have stuff like that.
27:38
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it would be like trends in teenagers.
27:41
Speaker 3: Um, like, I'm even afraid to talk about it right now because I don't want to invoke teenagers to do these things.
27:49
Speaker 3: Um, but so there's something called roboing, where you drink a bottle of robitussin right and it makes you like crazy high yeah, another one would be rubbing um, rubbing alcohol on yourself and then lighting it on fire to watch it like go away.
28:06
Speaker 3: But sometimes it doesn't go away, right wait fire bad like you would have fire, fire hot yeah, also the borg.
28:17
Speaker 3: Have you guys heard of the borg?
28:20
Speaker 2: no, this is all I want to know me no, uh, no, but I'm gonna tell you.
28:25
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you anyway it's called blackout rage gallon, and so this like swept across the United States and in colleges and what you do.
28:33
Speaker 3: I shouldn't even give the recipe on here, but anyway what you do is you take a bottle of vodka and a gallon jug.
28:40
Speaker 3: You feel the gallon jug halfway up with vodka, you put electrolytes in it and then you fill it up with water.
28:45
Speaker 3: So then you have flavored, watered down vodka that tastes like propel or Gatorade and then you fill it up with water.
28:48
Speaker 3: So then you have flavored, watered down vodka that tastes like propel or gatorade and then you name your borg and take it to a college party.
28:54
Speaker 3: Well, like in one weekend there was like 300 college students hospitalized for alcohol poisoning well, no shit, I feel like in editing.
29:03
Speaker 1: I need to just put a long recipe.
29:06
Speaker 2: Yeah you really should.
29:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't drink, oh god, yeah.
29:12
Speaker 2: And so this is even worse, because the last time I was in on like the trends, it was like dry scooping your pre-workout, which is like, yeah, that's kind of stupid, but like, right, in the grand scheme of things, that's not that bad yeah, and what's crazy is that these videos don't get censored.
29:29
Speaker 3: But then my rebuttal to these ridiculous videos get censored.
29:33
Speaker 1: Always like that right like I hate that yeah, I like I had one where I was responding to um, uh god, what's his name?
29:41
Speaker 1: Clovis culture clovis culture.
29:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I trust me, I remember the fucking video he was driving doing a video and he had his camera beside him, so he wasn't even looking forward.
29:51
Speaker 1: He was looking to the side to do his video while driving and that video stayed up.
29:57
Speaker 1: My response to that took him down for dangerous driving.
30:03
Speaker 2: I got a warning on mine because somebody was lighting cheese on fire in a grocery store.
30:07
Speaker 2: They were like do not attempt this.
30:10
Speaker 2: That's what the warning sticker on my video and I'm just like do not attempt to stitch stupid videos.
30:18
Speaker 1: That's what they're telling you.
30:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like some of the other stuff, so like nutrition, then like bad challenges, and then I'd say, like other things would be, uh, people who are body shaming or talking about people's weight or judging people based upon their weight.
30:33
Speaker 3: I make a lot of videos about that as well.
30:34
Speaker 3: And you know, if I really do soul searching, I think it's because, like, I feel like they're making fun of me, like when I see those videos, because when I was overweight and, um, I got made fun of all the time and it destroyed my self-esteem, it destroyed my personal thought, like my body image, uh, and so I I take it personally and I want to advocate for people who are also being shamed in that way what do you?
31:02
Speaker 2: have you seen it?
31:03
Speaker 2: What's your take on this?
31:04
Speaker 2: I don't, I mean we could.
31:05
Speaker 2: If I bring this up, it could could be the next fucking four hours of talking.
31:10
Speaker 2: Let's go.
31:11
Speaker 2: The Jubilee Me in the Middle, I forget what they call it.
31:16
Speaker 2: They have a whole thing where fat versus fit was their thing, where they take people who are overweight and they have them talk to people.
31:23
Speaker 2: They have them talk to people who are fit.
31:25
Speaker 2: Basically, you haven't seen this.
31:29
Speaker 1: I have not seen this.
31:29
Speaker 1: Is that the thing that Greg Doucette was on?
31:32
Speaker 2: greg doucette was on it.
31:33
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, okay, yeah, I've seen the clips of greg.
31:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's, I mean, but there was another guy.
31:38
Speaker 2: I've never seen him before, but he was I don't hear you talking about.
31:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember his name yeah, nobody's like.
31:43
Speaker 2: Fuck him.
31:43
Speaker 2: Like who gives a shit?
31:44
Speaker 2: This dude is just a straight asshole, like he's.
31:46
Speaker 2: Just like he literally said fat people should be put in fat concentration camps, like that's a quote.
31:51
Speaker 2: I'm not like, I'm not, yeah.
31:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you haven't watched it, I'm tempted to say watch it, but maybe don't, and so like I'll make some videos on it I'm sure, and so yeah, you'll, I'm sure you'll see it eventually.
32:02
Speaker 2: But basically, yeah, and he's like, he's like being fat is a sickness, you know, like all these things, know the classic shit you hear, and it just brought just the worst possible things you could say.
32:11
Speaker 2: And I was torn with this because I haven't talked about in a video yet, because I still don't fully know my thoughts.
32:18
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll just ask you I like this idea of bringing together people who are in kind of opposing sides and talking about it.
32:25
Speaker 2: Like me it's called like I forget the name of their title like me in the middle or some shit like that, which, yes, I like that idea.
32:31
Speaker 2: But they always get these just outliers, these such extreme people, because they know that's what's going to generate views and clicks and all these things.
32:41
Speaker 2: So I'm like, does it actually do anything good to be these people who are just so extreme that they're saying these such outlandish things that you know nobody's gonna be like?
32:50
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally.
32:51
Speaker 2: I, I don't know.
32:52
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of torn on it because I don't know if any real good comes from that because of the extremes they go to to get views yeah, unfortunately, I don't think it would make.
33:01
Speaker 3: um, I think, to make it beneficial for the people participating, it would not make good content, right, like it'd just be a cool conversation and people get better.
33:10
Speaker 3: They'd hug it out at the end and be like, oh, it was awesome to see your perspective.
33:13
Speaker 3: Like, I have a better understanding of obesity, um, but that's not going to get clicks.
33:18
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, but I do think, uh, it's just like any scenario where you walk in someone else's shoes, right?
33:25
Speaker 3: So like there was this uh Qi project where we did where doctors follow nurses for their entire day.
33:30
Speaker 3: Oh right, that's to see, to put a doctor in nurses shoes and vice versa, put a nurse in a doctor's shoe and have them work an entire day in their life, just so that you could better relate to, like the hell that we go through, right, um?
33:44
Speaker 3: And so I think doing something similar likely would have benefit.
33:47
Speaker 3: And maybe if they turn the show like that where you take a fitness person and maybe go with someone who's obese as chronic medical conditions, make them go to every single doctor's appointment, make them live off of such a strict budget, make them have food stamps, make them live in a food desert and do all these things and be like, oh wow, I understand why this is so hard for you now and it's not for me, because I make a million dollars a year and I own a gym and I don't have a job and you know yeah, yeah, I could rant about this forever, I'm sure I know it's just.
34:21
Speaker 2: I mean it's just really interesting.
34:22
Speaker 2: I like that.
34:23
Speaker 2: I think that idea would be more positive than just getting people who just yell uh, clickbaity things.
34:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, just yell these things that you can put in a fucking thumbnail on youtube.
34:34
Speaker 1: Everyone will click on it I've currently I've totally lost the the plot of where we're going, because I had to go look up what that guy's name was.
34:43
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it was just.
34:44
Speaker 2: You definitely need to check him out it was just.
34:47
Speaker 1: you definitely need to check him out.
34:48
Speaker 1: It was just so bad.
34:50
Speaker 1: He is such a huge asshole.
34:51
Speaker 1: But Myron Gaines from the Fresh and Fit podcast why?
34:57
Speaker 3: does that sound?
34:58
Speaker 2: so familiar.
34:59
Speaker 2: I mean, when you say stuff that crazy, you're going to get attention right Like you're going to get eyeballs on you, you know.
35:07
Speaker 3: I almost feel like I know this person and.
35:11
Speaker 2: But what was interesting, there was another person on the quote-unquote fat side who I remember he posted a video on tiktok.
35:17
Speaker 2: I got tagged in it where he was like we went into it not knowing who else was going to be on this.
35:22
Speaker 2: Like they just told us we're going to talk to people who are in the fitness world and as soon as they they knew this got myron or whatever the fuck his name is.
35:29
Speaker 2: They knew him and as soon as they saw it, they're like, oh, this is going to be a shit show, like there's just this.
35:33
Speaker 2: We're not going to get anywhere because we know how supposedly he is a huge asshole and been transphobic like he's literally like.
35:43
Speaker 3: He apparently just all of all the terrible things, yeah well, so this this was posted on the Jubilee website 11 days ago and it has 4 million views.
35:56
Speaker 2: Yeah right, wow, yeah, I've got to watch this, right, exactly, and you've got to watch it.
36:00
Speaker 2: That's what these things do, though it's like, oh, I have to see this, I just fell into it.
36:06
Speaker 3: I just supported what we're seeing.
36:07
Speaker 3: I'm not just blaming you.
36:09
Speaker 2: It's me as well Like oh shit, what the fuck's going on and we're playing like that and it just doesn't anything positive come from it.
36:17
Speaker 2: I don't feel like it.
36:18
Speaker 2: It just cements people more into whatever camp they're in.
36:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll have to.
36:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait to watch it now.
36:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, so check.
36:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll have to.
36:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to watch it now.
36:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, make some content.
36:28
Speaker 2: Check that out and let me know your thoughts.
36:30
Speaker 2: Fuck me.
36:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, have something nearby, because you're going to want to break it after watching that Great, great.
36:38
Speaker 3: I'll find something.
36:39
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'll break.
36:41
Speaker 1: Just watch it in one of those break rooms, those rooms you go to where you just get to smash everything.
36:47
Speaker 1: Oh, those are sweet.
36:50
Speaker 3: Those just rent one of those, watch the video and have at it yeah, I was gonna say I'd break the cup that's sitting here but then I wouldn't have a light holder.
36:58
Speaker 3: I was telling ron like I have the most ghetto setup of any content creator probably ever.
37:04
Speaker 3: I have a cup holding my lighting for us right now.
37:07
Speaker 2: I like oh man, I get by.
37:11
Speaker 2: I have a pile of shirts right next to me, like 38 shirts, because you know I always people know me for my shirt, so I throw.
37:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone talks about your shirt.
37:19
Speaker 3: You have to have one I gotta have.
37:21
Speaker 2: I have like literally 40 sitting right here that I just swap out and I can film the next video and so I'm not with the same shirt in every fucking video it's one goes on that goes in the the wash cycle through them exactly.
37:34
Speaker 2: He doesn't wash him like there's no washing going on here I pretty much just film throw it off, put it right back over there and then I'm only wearing it for like a few minutes.
37:43
Speaker 3: It's fine, it's all fine.
37:46
Speaker 1: Yeah so.
37:47
Speaker 2: I mean any, anything else you get in the that you you kind of go over and the and the whole, like, like, oh, we got to get this doctor in on this.
37:58
Speaker 2: Oh, you know what I saw in yours Don't put the milk in the fridge.
38:01
Speaker 2: Don't put the milk in the fridge door.
38:02
Speaker 2: I learned that from your video.
38:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's an interesting take as well.
38:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it it's not as cool there so don't put your milk it for all of you people right now who I know, you you're out there.
38:15
Speaker 2: You've got the fucking milk in the fridge door.
38:16
Speaker 2: You're apparently not supposed to do that yeah, because you're not as cool apparently but the fridges, the fridges, yeah, I think that's right.
38:24
Speaker 3: the fridges have a milk spot, like in the door.
38:28
Speaker 3: They've made the refrigerator to include that.
38:31
Speaker 3: I don't know if they know it or not.
38:33
Speaker 3: I don't know why they would not.
38:34
Speaker 3: I don't know why they would do that purposely.
38:37
Speaker 3: They're not making extra money, but they make a spot for the milk and the milk isn't supposed to go there.
38:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's listen.
38:42
Speaker 2: We got to get off the seed oils and corn syrup game.
38:44
Speaker 2: We got to get on this bullshit that's setting us up for failure in our milk doors marketing special fridges.
38:52
Speaker 3: The milk spot is not on the door speaking of milk, what do you guys think about raw milk?
38:59
Speaker 2: oh god we've only talked about that, that a few times before we love it you should drink as much raw milk as you can get your grummy, gritty hands straight from the cheek, just suck on there like.
39:17
Speaker 3: This just blows my mind how people will double down on raw milk like for one.
39:23
Speaker 3: Why are they so passionate about raw milk?
39:26
Speaker 2: I think a lot of.
39:26
Speaker 2: They just drank it when they were younger.
39:28
Speaker 2: And once you just grow up, during it you know what.
39:30
Speaker 2: Grow up doing something, whatever it is, you're just like that's the thing.
39:33
Speaker 2: Like how many people are like, oh, my dad beat me and I'm fine, so I'm gonna beat my kids, and you're like, oh, that's a great fucking reason.
39:40
Speaker 2: Good job, george.
39:41
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll turn out great too, that's like the perfect example I love that you just compared raw milk To beating your child.
39:52
Speaker 2: Listen.
39:53
Speaker 2: If the shoe fits is all I'm gonna say.
39:56
Speaker 2: If the carton fits, the milk Slash mist.
40:00
Speaker 1: If you're feeding your child raw milk, you may as well be beating them.
40:04
Speaker 2: Listen, if you're gonna ask, tell me which is better To give, if I would rather have raw milk as a child or get Hit.
40:09
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're going to ask, tell me which is better to give, if I would rather have raw milk as a child or get or get it to finish.
40:13
Speaker 2: That I don't know.
40:15
Speaker 2: Like that's a tough choice.
40:16
Speaker 2: I don't know that's a tough choice.
40:18
Speaker 1: How about we stop doing?
40:19
Speaker 2: both of those things to children?
40:21
Speaker 2: Well, obviously.
40:22
Speaker 2: But okay, listen, both of you have to choose right now.
40:31
Speaker 1: You have to either get hit as a child or you were given raw milk and the chance of getting tuberculosis.
40:35
Speaker 2: You know what, if I have to choose, I would take getting hit.
40:37
Speaker 2: How old am I?
40:39
Speaker 2: Let's say you're 10 years old, you're getting raw milk or you're getting physically punished.
40:44
Speaker 3: I would think.
40:45
Speaker 3: I mean I might be an outlier, but I think I would take the raw milk at 10.
40:49
Speaker 2: The raw milk, I just feel like okay, Just because like that beating is going to live with me.
40:56
Speaker 3: I mean, the raw milk could kill me, man.
40:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, the beating can live with you, but the raw milk you may not live.
41:04
Speaker 2: You may die with the milk.
41:07
Speaker 1: Welcome to.
41:07
Speaker 2: In Moderation, where we go over hypotheticals on whether you should get beaten or drink raw milk neither.
41:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are like obviously, uh, making light of something that could be serious, right like uh, so just a disclaimer.
41:25
Speaker 3: Anybody that has went through abuse in any way, shape or form just know like that's not OK, it's not appropriate and we don't mean to take light of the topic and sorry that if any of the listeners have went through that, we know that that could be lifelong trauma.
41:45
Speaker 3: It is lifelong trauma.
41:46
Speaker 2: I think it's terrible.
41:47
Speaker 2: Like I have a seven month old, I will never hit my child.
41:50
Speaker 2: Like I've just there's just no, there's just no way.
41:53
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna give her raw milk and I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna assault her.
41:57
Speaker 2: Like that's just I kind of honestly, I mean I kind of kind of well yeah, like I don't have children.
42:02
Speaker 1: But it's the same thing with my cat.
42:04
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna hit my cat, right right, exact same same thing and like I get it.
42:13
Speaker 1: Like so many people hit their cats, it's like get off of there I just love that you compared your cat to a seven month old.
42:19
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know to be fair, the seven month old will never, you know, climb up on the keyboard and start hitting buttons in the middle of honor mode on.
42:31
Speaker 2: She absolutely has.
42:32
Speaker 2: I have her in my lap.
42:33
Speaker 2: She goes smack, smack, smack I'm like, oh god what are you doing?
42:36
Speaker 1: so either pippin or oakley could end us on our honor run on boulder gate just like that yeah you know what's crazy so in missouri when I was in high school, the high school still had a paddling policy.
42:51
Speaker 3: So it was like you could take in-school suspension or get hit with a paddle and so like as, like an older guy, I'd be like hit me with a paddle, like OK, like, if you want, if that's a choice, like sure, I'll just take a hit real quick and be on my way.
43:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's, and it's still very common.
43:10
Speaker 2: And listen, like you know, if you're I don't know how we got to really got into this topic but like, if you're a parent to your child, like, hey, you know, like you, I think the parents you know I'm not going to judge them on their parenting choices, but personally I just will never hit my child.
43:27
Speaker 2: It's just.
43:28
Speaker 1: If you're a parent, go watch somebody like Mama Cusses.
43:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that's who you should be watching.
43:34
Speaker 2: Wait, who's that?
43:34
Speaker 2: I don't know.
43:35
Speaker 2: You've probably seen it.
43:37
Speaker 2: I've done a couple stitches of hers.
43:38
Speaker 1: She's great, she's, you know, I'm like on my profile Lots of parenting advice.
43:43
Speaker 2: One of my top pinned videos is from Mama Cusses and she has great advice on on parodying and just being like it.
43:50
Speaker 2: Listen, we're parents, we're struggling, we're getting by.
43:52
Speaker 2: This is what I do.
43:53
Speaker 2: Like you know, realistic is the best way I describe it.
43:56
Speaker 2: It's awesome yeah, yeah.
43:58
Speaker 3: And one thing I'll say is like the evidence is pretty clear that you know, hitting our children doesn't help, like surprise, you know.
44:05
Speaker 3: And like I was spanked as a child, like I used to have to go pick the branch that I was going to get spanked with.
44:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that what it was, you know?
44:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and so, like research is very clear on it, we just shouldn't do it.
44:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a hard hard pass, yeah Hard pass.
44:23
Speaker 3: Oh nice, I found mama, mama cusses Mama.
44:25
Speaker 2: Cusses.
44:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, check her out.
44:27
Speaker 2: We'll get her on the podcast sometime.
44:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, especially now that she got a shout out.
44:34
Speaker 2: We could do some like rapid fire things, like people, always like those Like is this worth it?
44:38
Speaker 2: Is that worth it?
44:39
Speaker 1: My brain just stopped at the id part so we could do some rap Rapid.
44:45
Speaker 3: Rapid, rapid.
44:52
Speaker 2: If I was good at rap at all, I would you know what I love.
44:54
Speaker 2: Like I love.
44:54
Speaker 2: I find it people who do that really talent, like the super talented, like I ever watch epic rap battles of history.
44:56
Speaker 2: That's another thing you need to look up.
44:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fucking hilarious they take two people from fictional or real history and they have them rap battle and they're so good like they're, so they're produced super well.
45:09
Speaker 2: You gotta look up epic rap battles.
45:11
Speaker 2: It's fucking great, um, but no, I'm not great at rap, so I was thinking more just like rapid fire people like is it worth it?
45:19
Speaker 2: What's this?
45:20
Speaker 2: Or we could do um, or we could do.
45:22
Speaker 1: What's your favorite flavor of gourmet jelly bean gourmet, there's gourmet jelly.
45:27
Speaker 3: I didn't even know there's.
45:28
Speaker 3: I didn't know that I like Starburst jelly beans.
45:30
Speaker 3: What that's like, probably not.
45:33
Speaker 1: You guys don't know, there's gourmet jelly beans.
45:36
Speaker 3: I like Starburst.
45:37
Speaker 2: Like Jelly Belly.
45:38
Speaker 2: That's gourmet.
45:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that would be considered.
45:42
Speaker 1: Gourmet jelly beans, like the ones that have like the billions of flavors, yeah, yeah like the billions of flavors.
45:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, if we're calling that, then yeah, sweaty socks, sweaty socks, you know what I actually do like is toothpaste.
45:54
Speaker 2: I actually like the toothpaste flavor ones.
45:56
Speaker 3: They're kind of minty I mean I do too.
45:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like having a mint yeah, like why is this?
46:00
Speaker 3: This isn't bad yeah, the vomit one is terrible oh yeah, like it's straight, like it's straight vomit.
46:07
Speaker 3: It is straight vomit Like they literally just like made a chunk of vomit into jelly.
46:15
Speaker 1: Do you often test the vomit in the hospital to make sure that it's you know?
46:20
Speaker 2: Let's see.
46:21
Speaker 1: Is this quality, jelly bean quality?
46:24
Speaker 3: You can tell by the smell.
46:25
Speaker 3: You know, just a couple whiffs and you got it.
46:30
Speaker 2: Oh man, okay, Are you ready, rob?
46:34
Speaker 1: I guess so.
46:35
Speaker 2: Okay, tommy, I'm not an improv master like Sarah Ballantyne.
46:41
Speaker 1: Oh, right, right right.
46:43
Speaker 3: All right.
46:44
Speaker 3: Tommy, you guys are so good at names.
46:45
Speaker 3: You guys talk about people all the time.
46:46
Speaker 3: I'm like who are these people?
46:49
Speaker 2: Listen.
46:49
Speaker 2: Well, we do a podcast, okay, so we interact with a few people.
46:52
Speaker 2: All right, we're kind of in, we're kind of hip.
46:55
Speaker 1: We are socialites, high society over here.
46:59
Speaker 3: I'm one of the peasants, as you guys are over there eating your cake.
47:04
Speaker 2: Okay, listen, peasant, tommy, we're going to hit you with some overrated, underrated.
47:07
Speaker 2: No explanation.
47:09
Speaker 2: We just say something and then you have to say overrated or underrated.
47:13
Speaker 2: Let's do it, okay, okay, um.
47:16
Speaker 2: I would say oh Zempik, oh Zempik.
47:20
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah.
47:22
Speaker 2: Overrated or underrated.
47:23
Speaker 2: Overrated.
47:26
Speaker 2: Listen, we got.
47:28
Speaker 2: We got all this stuff to get to you can't be struggling this much.
47:31
Speaker 2: Overrated, overrated.
47:35
Speaker 2: Good, oh yeah, great, uh.
47:37
Speaker 2: Creatine underrated.
47:39
Speaker 2: Underrated running underrated I I'm really sad now.
47:49
Speaker 2: I don't like this Pooping your pants when you're running overrated, overrated.
47:58
Speaker 1: That was going to be my next one.
47:59
Speaker 2: If it was underrated I'd be real worried.
48:01
Speaker 2: Okay, Greens powders.
48:03
Speaker 2: Greens powders.
48:06
Speaker 3: Trash Overrated.
48:07
Speaker 3: I meant to say I thought, sorry, you just ditched the rated.
48:09
Speaker 3: It's no over Trash.
48:09
Speaker 2: Overrated.
48:10
Speaker 2: I meant to say I thought sorry, you just ditched the ratedness.
48:13
Speaker 2: No, we're just trash.
48:17
Speaker 1: Whoops, this is no longer overrated, underrated.
48:21
Speaker 1: This is now overrated, underrated and trash.
48:24
Speaker 2: Overrated, underrated trash, yep.
48:25
Speaker 2: Those are our three categories.
48:28
Speaker 1: What do you got Rob?
48:36
Speaker 2: Okay, unicity Trash, overrated, overrated and trash Trash.
48:40
Speaker 2: We're for doing supplements, multivitamins Overrated, overrated, not trash.
48:46
Speaker 3: Vitamin D, vitamin D.
48:50
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't give an explanation but I will listen.
48:54
Speaker 2: We're already breaking rules.
48:55
Speaker 2: You can do whatever the fuck you want, we have to be deficient underrated, if you're.
49:00
Speaker 3: If your vitamin d is fine overrated, but I thought mine would be fine.
49:03
Speaker 3: I gotta check if my vitamin d was wicked low and a lot of people are low.
49:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm outside all the time, uh so get it checked like yeah, some people have uh, absorb more or transit to, you know, create more vitamin d.
49:17
Speaker 2: For some others don't.
49:18
Speaker 1: So it kind of just depends on the person, yeah okay, so this is now overrated, underrated trash and get it checked.
49:25
Speaker 2: Get it checked.
49:25
Speaker 2: All right, we're just adding more to the categories magnesium yeah, I mean, you guys didn't ask me that I would say overrated.
49:36
Speaker 3: But over.
49:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, especially for, like people ask me about sleep all the time, like magnesium and sleep, because there's all this stuff like it helps me sleep.
49:43
Speaker 2: I'm like if it does, then you know fucking gangbusters, but like there's really no conclusive evidence to say that it's going to help others.
49:51
Speaker 2: So yeah, fatty fish.
49:57
Speaker 3: Ooh.
50:02
Speaker 2: Underrated.
50:02
Speaker 2: I do think it's underrated Chicken breast.
50:08
Speaker 1: Chicken breast.
50:12
Speaker 3: If we take the population as a whole, I'll say underrated.
50:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I would say it's overrated, just because of how much I see about it.
50:20
Speaker 2: Just like everyone's always chicken breast, chicken breast, like it's fine, but it's not like people act like it's just some kind of panacea, I don't know.
50:27
Speaker 1: Like chicken, chicken broccoli Most people cook it terribly and, yeah, it's always dry out.
50:32
Speaker 3: It's like wicked cheap though, like per pound it's so cheap.
50:36
Speaker 2: Okay, what about tuna?
50:37
Speaker 2: Tuna?
50:38
Speaker 3: Ooh, I'd say underrated.
50:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people like maybe you know chicken breast fine, but also like tuna is really good.
50:45
Speaker 2: Oh, what about beans?
50:46
Speaker 2: Beans, Underrated, Underrated, yes.
50:51
Speaker 3: I'm only saying it because you're the host.
50:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you said overrated, it would have just been like ejection.
50:58
Speaker 2: All right, filming yourself in the gym.
50:59
Speaker 2: Underrated, overrated, get it checked.
51:04
Speaker 1: Get it checked.
51:05
Speaker 1: Get it checked, get it checked.
51:09
Speaker 3: I will say it is overrated, but I am someone who does it.
51:13
Speaker 2: This is fair.
51:14
Speaker 3: This is fair.
51:15
Speaker 3: The carnivore diet.
51:17
Speaker 2: The carnivore diet Overrated.
51:20
Speaker 3: Okay, carnivore diet crazy overrated.
51:23
Speaker 3: Keto crazy overrated.
51:23
Speaker 3: Keto crazy overrated.
51:24
Speaker 3: Bananas underrated.
51:27
Speaker 2: Intermittent fasting overrated but autophagy, tommy autophagy oh um ice baths, ice baths yeah, god, considering how much people are, how high people other people are rating them, it's gotta be overrated because damn the amount of things they claim it does is insane especially for people in the body bodybuilding world.
51:53
Speaker 3: Right like I cannot believe the.
51:54
Speaker 3: The research that we have for one isn't amazing.
51:56
Speaker 3: Right like it's not great evidence that we have about any of it.
52:00
Speaker 3: But the evidence that we do have shows that it's not best for muscle growth.
52:03
Speaker 3: But yet all these bodybuilders that are probably raking it in to promote these ice baths still swear by it.
52:10
Speaker 3: It's just like the evidence doesn't support that.
52:14
Speaker 2: Okay, peanut M&Ms Overrated.
52:18
Speaker 3: Overrated.
52:19
Speaker 3: Peanut butter.
52:21
Speaker 3: M&ms underrated I would swear by peanut butter.
52:23
Speaker 2: M&ms underrated I would swear about peanut butter crunch of the peanut, like you get the crunch of the chocolate, the coating and the peanut you get but the taste of the peanut butter.
52:34
Speaker 3: M&ms are just peanut butter m&ms are good, yeah, but no, I didn't say peanut butter.
52:40
Speaker 2: M&ms are underrated what do you think, rob?
52:42
Speaker 2: Where are you at with the?
52:43
Speaker 1: this is the most important topic we've come up with so far um peanut eminems, I'm gonna have to say probably underrated under it.
52:53
Speaker 3: Thank you, yeah, underrated yeah but wait, peanut butter eminems or peanut butter eminems peanut, peanut emin's are underrated.
53:02
Speaker 1: You know what Peanut?
53:02
Speaker 1: They're both underrated.
53:03
Speaker 1: Okay, fine.
53:04
Speaker 3: Which one's better, that's the.
53:07
Speaker 2: now we have underrated, overrated, get it checked, trash and which one's better how do you not?
53:18
Speaker 2: Understand our game.
53:19
Speaker 2: It's very simple.
53:21
Speaker 3: Which one's better Greens powders or reds powders?
53:25
Speaker 3: What?
53:26
Speaker 1: are reds powders uh, I have to go with the blues powders blue.
53:32
Speaker 2: So we're just saying colors.
53:33
Speaker 2: What is this?
53:33
Speaker 3: yellows powers there's like greens and reds and all different powders I don't know, they're all just fucking.
53:40
Speaker 2: Oh, they're just expensive lawn clippings.
53:42
Speaker 2: I don't know like expensive expensive okay, okay, which which is better?
53:46
Speaker 1: greens powders, red powders, blue powders or meth, or meth how strong is the meth?
53:52
Speaker 2: is it cut with other things?
53:53
Speaker 2: What's going on?
53:54
Speaker 2: It's cut with a green powder.
53:55
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well then you might as well okay, I think we'd all agree with this one, but frozen uh fruits and veggies oh yeah those are so underrated man underrated, that's about as underrated as potatoes, in my opinion for sure, like potatoes, are so inexpensive, extremely filling, like, yeah, you can't go okay.
54:18
Speaker 2: Okay.
54:18
Speaker 2: Now we've moved on to what's the most underrated foods, what's the most this game is just evolving, it's just yeah, every episode now is going to be like this.
54:29
Speaker 2: It's just a game that continuously evolves over the episode.
54:45
Speaker 3: No-transcript I am gonna steal the potatoes.
54:54
Speaker 3: One, I think that they are.
54:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is by far.
54:59
Speaker 3: Oh, actually, there are two potatoes, actually no potatoes, potatoes and rice.
55:04
Speaker 3: I still think rice, even though, like it's a common in the bodybuilding world.
55:07
Speaker 3: It is so inexpensive a large volume and you can do a billion things with it.
55:16
Speaker 2: Right, it's very versatile, like you can cook it fairly easily.
55:19
Speaker 2: You know easy to cook.
55:19
Speaker 2: Most people know how to make you know rice.
55:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, and mix beans.
55:23
Speaker 1: they don't make it right, they don't wash it because they're idiots, but like yeah, okay, no, I've got the most underrated thing in the entire food industry seasonings season.
55:35
Speaker 1: Season your food, people, especially in the bodybuilding community boy.
55:40
Speaker 2: You see that shit people are just like.
55:41
Speaker 2: Here's my, you know, bland chicken breast barely cooked broccoli.
55:47
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, the amount of videos you watch, and it's just like they maybe put a little sprinkle salt in maybe, maybe I've seen them where they're like where's?
55:55
Speaker 2: it's like uh, I've got hot sauce, this is all the seasoning I need.
55:58
Speaker 2: I'm like you could also season it.
55:59
Speaker 2: Like you, I like hot sauce, but like, come on now.
56:02
Speaker 2: That's kind of sad okay, so organic food right, yeah, that's like the most fucking overrated.
56:08
Speaker 2: I mean it's trash okay.
56:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's trash um well, sometimes it's cheaper.
56:15
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's cheaper so I'll money, and there we go.
56:17
Speaker 1: Now we've got the new category of money in the trash money, um wait do you really find organic options cheaper?
56:25
Speaker 2: occasionally you will, for whatever reason, and a lot of times that's just because, like, people don't buy them, so they have to put them like on the drive.
56:34
Speaker 3: You have like one day to eat right, right, pretty much.
56:37
Speaker 2: But like sometimes you know it's organic, like a can of organic something you know, whatever, whatever they're like, these are organic beans.
56:43
Speaker 2: Like who gives a shit, they're fucking beans.
56:45
Speaker 1: And so sometimes and sometimes they just slap the organic on there because they just didn't happen to use whatever pesticides when they're growing.
56:53
Speaker 1: It's not because they went out to do it on purpose.
56:56
Speaker 2: You're right, yeah, but also, okay, I got to go back and throw sweet potatoes for sure, cause we already said potatoes, I gotta throw sweet potatoes in the underrated foods.
57:09
Speaker 2: Um, I gotta throw, I will still.
57:10
Speaker 2: When you talked about tuna earlier, that's, I really like that.
57:11
Speaker 3: um, there's, and then you know what's super underrated edamame I'm just gonna say that so underrated have you guys had the only bean?
57:18
Speaker 3: If you haven't messaged them on tiktok and they'll send you some.
57:22
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, maybe I will.
57:23
Speaker 2: Okay, these are like dry roasted or something, the only bean dry roasted.
57:27
Speaker 3: They have buffalo sriracha ranch and what I like to do is I like to take the ranch and the buffalo, put them in one bag, shake it up and then you have buffalo ranch edamame so freaking good.
57:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, Edamame are just soybeans, If anybody you know, if you don't know and like, you can buy them frozen in the little pods.
57:44
Speaker 2: You can buy like what's it called Muka mei mei or whatever.
57:46
Speaker 2: When they're not in the little pods, yeah, or you can buy them dry roasted.
57:50
Speaker 2: You can buy even like tempeh is like fermented soybeans, so like there's lots of things you can do with them and it's like you know it's a great source of fiber, protein, healthy fats, like yeah, I think I got a frozen bag in my freezer.
58:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just take some out, throw them in your, throw them in your rice, throw them in your salad, whatever.
58:11
Speaker 2: Fried rice.
58:12
Speaker 2: It's so good you get like the mix of corn, like carrots and like peas or whatever, and then you make your rice eggs and they throw edamame in for more protein.
58:23
Speaker 1: So good eggs, and they throw edamame in for more protein so good.
58:25
Speaker 3: But with or without seed oil, well, I only gotta have it.
58:26
Speaker 3: I mix my seed oils together to make the ultimate.
58:29
Speaker 3: I like to put the roasted edamame on my salads uh, yeah, they crunch, yeah, exactly yeah so good, man, that's a good choice.
58:37
Speaker 3: I'd also say pickles and cucumbers.
58:39
Speaker 3: Now, they don't have much nutritional value, but like I love pickles so much because a lot of times, you want the crunch.
58:47
Speaker 2: Right, you want the crunch yeah something so like yeah, pickles and cucumbers can definitely scratch that itch.
58:51
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, I know salsa salsa so fucking underrated it's you get like serving of, like vegetables and like you throw it on like whatever, like you throw it on a ton of things.
59:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, agreed completely.
59:03
Speaker 3: And there's like a thousand different types of salsa.
59:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you can't go wrong oh, okay, and then moving on.
59:11
Speaker 2: Uh, mangoes.
59:11
Speaker 2: Mangoes are underrated.
59:12
Speaker 2: People are like, oh, it's sugar and it's like like it's fruit.
59:17
Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up I need you to make a video.
59:20
Speaker 1: I I love mangoes.
59:21
Speaker 3: I love mangoes.
59:22
Speaker 3: Mangoes are so good but I haven't mastered like how to cut them or eat them, so sometimes I just eat them like an apple and like your teeth get.
59:35
Speaker 2: Do you spit out the skin there or do you just swallow it?
59:39
Speaker 2: I just eat the whole thing.
59:41
Speaker 2: That's something I don't know how to describe that, but it's certainly something.
59:45
Speaker 2: I eat kiwis.
59:47
Speaker 2: I eat the skin of kiwis because you can do that if you didn't know.
59:49
Speaker 2: But mangoes is like the next level of what is this?
59:53
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can or not, I don't know if you can eat the skin or not, but like I feel like when you don't, you miss out on so much of it, like so much of the actual mango, and the only bad thing about eating it like an apple.
1:00:05
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's more fiber.
1:00:08
Speaker 1: It helps you when you get the runny trots.
1:00:12
Speaker 3: Fine job If anybody tries that, though.
1:00:16
Speaker 3: Just warning, like all the strings of the mango get stuck in your teeth eating it that way.
1:00:21
Speaker 2: Listen, no, no, no.
1:00:22
Speaker 2: Here's what you do.
1:00:23
Speaker 2: You just buy frozen mango and then you put it into like smoothies and shit.
1:00:26
Speaker 2: That's really good, like it's already cut up.
1:00:28
Speaker 2: You can put.
1:00:28
Speaker 2: I recently did one with overnight oats, basically, where you put um in a in a cup, you put like the frozen mango in there and then you put your overnight oats and then you can top it with like a chocolate layering, if you want to like, with like coconut oil.
1:00:40
Speaker 2: So it's like got the like crack.
1:00:41
Speaker 2: You can crack the top.
1:00:42
Speaker 3: It's really good that's that's ozimbic 2.0 for the listeners and you lose double the amount of weight with that you have you have to sign up for that one.
1:00:49
Speaker 1: There's an extra service fee do you have a promo code?
1:01:00
Speaker 2: no, no, no well, I think our game evolved enough into whatever it was.
1:01:05
Speaker 1: That was great, yeah, solid and if anybody in the future wants to play, I don't even know what all we want to play what we just played, yeah we're going to turn that into a game for every guest, for now on.
1:01:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like.
1:01:23
Speaker 2: No, I'm in, I love it.
1:01:24
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
1:01:26
Speaker 1: We'll just call it the Not Chong game, the Not Chong game.
1:01:31
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you never heard of Cheech and Chong.
1:01:33
Speaker 2: That was such a big thing.
1:01:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, and we're like the same age, so like I would think I would know.
1:01:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, how old are you, tommy?
1:01:40
Speaker 2: How old are you?
1:01:41
Speaker 2: I am, I was born in 92.
1:01:43
Speaker 2: Okay, I was born in 91.
1:01:45
Speaker 2: So yeah.
1:01:47
Speaker 1: Rob, I'm leaving.
1:01:50
Speaker 2: I'm leaving.
1:01:50
Speaker 2: I was born in 70.
1:01:57
Speaker 3: Oh, I was born in 84.
1:01:59
Speaker 3: 84.
1:02:00
Speaker 3: Okay.
1:02:01
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:02:02
Speaker 3: Not too far past us, Grandpa.
1:02:09
Speaker 1: Don't make me come after you with my cane.
1:02:11
Speaker 1: You see that axe back there.
1:02:15
Speaker 1: Been using that for the last 50 years.
1:02:18
Speaker 2: We always talk about protein's important.
1:02:19
Speaker 2: Protein for the elderly Rob is very important, just so you know.
1:02:22
Speaker 1: Oh man, all I have you know, I get 20 grams of protein a day.
1:02:29
Speaker 2: Oh, boy, slow down there have to have my steak pre-chewed oh.
1:02:39
Speaker 2: God Pre-chewed Blended steak.
1:02:44
Speaker 3: That's terrible.
1:02:45
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
1:02:47
Speaker 1: Pippin's looking at me like what the hell are you doing?
1:02:53
Speaker 2: But if anybody wants to find you, Tommy, where would they do that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, on all the social media channels it's just drtommyy martin tiktok.
1:03:05
Speaker 3: Instagram, facebook, clapper, lemonade, youtube, all the channels I know half of those.
1:03:12
Speaker 3: So yeah, drive tommy martin okay, drtommymartin, drtommymartin, you can find me anywhere or you know, at a triathlon, at a marathon, I'm gonna have Liam and Rob at my marathon coming up here in 10 days in Buffalo, new York so marathon training involves like clenching and unclenching to practice right just clench, make sure you don't poop on yourself yeah after mile 15 you gotta just be like.
1:03:45
Speaker 2: This is stupid.
1:03:46
Speaker 2: Why am I doing this?
1:03:49
Speaker 1: oh man, we'll find out I mean, you're not that far from liam, you could just drive over there, kidnap him and bring him.