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- 0:03Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:06Speaker 1: It's Friday, October twenty five. Billionaire Richard White has resigned
- 0:13Speaker 1: from the company that made him one of Australia's richest people.
- 0:16Speaker 1: He's at the center of a sex scandal and although
- 0:19Speaker 1: White is not accused of anything illegal, he's taking a
- 0:23Speaker 1: break and will return as a consultant earning one million
- 0:27Speaker 1: dollars a year.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Why have you resigned today, I'm not talking.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Are you concerned that that more women.
- 0:34Speaker 4: Are going to come out in slight?
- 0:36Speaker 1: You can watch that exclusive video by our reporter Leam
- 0:39Speaker 1: Mendez right now at the Australian dot com dot U.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Can you believe it? The US election is just eleven
- 0:49Speaker 1: days away. Kamala Harris has a man problem. Donald Trump
- 0:53Speaker 1: has a trust problem. Today we meet the correspondents who'll
- 0:57Speaker 1: be crisscrossing the States to you the best reporting and
- 1:02Speaker 1: analysis of this crazy campaign.
- 1:08Speaker 4: You may need to open the aft an the event
- 1:10Speaker 4: of an emergencygure.
- 1:11Speaker 1: This is American Airlines Flight five two seventy nine from Washington,
- 1:15Speaker 1: DC to Atlanta, Georgia, and on board is our reporter
- 1:19Speaker 1: Joe Kelly oh.
- 1:20Speaker 4: Best go ahead and stodos either in the overhead compartment
- 1:23Speaker 4: or completely underneath sing in front of him. Same for laptops.
- 1:26Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Joe's recently moved to the States and he's getting his
- 1:30Speaker 1: head around this vast, messy, brilliant, terrifying democracy. So it
- 1:36Speaker 1: was nice for Joe to hear a familiar accent from
- 1:39Speaker 1: the cockpit.
- 1:40Speaker 5: Weather in the Atlanta area right now, it's a light
- 1:42Speaker 5: winds out of the west.
- 1:43Speaker 6: It's a good visibility.
- 1:43Speaker 4: Cliss Guy's temperature of eighty degrees is please sit back, relax, Joe.
- 1:47Speaker 6: The flight local book.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Georgia is a crucial swing state. Donald Trump won it
- 1:52Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen and Joe Biden took it off him
- 1:55Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, but only just. Joe's flown to Atlanta
- 2:00Speaker 1: for a Kamala Harris rally as she attempts to bring
- 2:03Speaker 1: it all back to Trump's character. Do you think Donald
- 2:06Speaker 1: Trump is a fascist?
- 2:07Speaker 2: Yes?
- 2:08Speaker 6: I do, Yes, I do. He himself has said he
- 2:11Speaker 6: would terminate the Constitution of the United States and wants
- 2:15Speaker 6: to earn your vote. To stand again behind the seal
- 2:19Speaker 6: of the President of the United States.
- 2:21Speaker 1: On stage with Harris in Atlanta will be Barack Obama, you.
- 2:28Speaker 6: Are you running a go?
- 2:30Speaker 1: A couple of days ago, Obama joined eminem on stage
- 2:34Speaker 1: in Detroit and wrapped his two thousand and two hit
- 2:37Speaker 1: Lose Yourself.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Now, I notice my palms are sweating. Lose Leek, I's
- 2:44Speaker 3: a heaven, Bama on my sweater, Runner on Spagunna.
- 2:50Speaker 6: I'm nervous, but I'm a surface. I'm a comb and
- 2:53Speaker 6: run it.
- 2:53Speaker 1: The risk of rolling out a political superstar is that
- 2:56Speaker 1: they upstage the candidate.
- 2:59Speaker 4: That's problem. I've watched Barack Obama's rally a couple of
- 3:04Speaker 4: days ago, and the guy's electric. He's completely comfortable, he's
- 3:10Speaker 4: full of charisma and energy, and he's so persuasive. Barack
- 3:15Speaker 4: Obama and Bill Clinton are the great persuaders of politics,
- 3:19Speaker 4: and he looks so natural making all these arguments about
- 3:23Speaker 4: Donald Trump. What's Donald Trump's plan for healthcare? Well, he
- 3:27Speaker 4: has for concept of a plan.
- 3:29Speaker 3: Now I want you all to think about this. Let's
- 3:33Speaker 3: say your boss gives you an assignment, says, look, I
- 3:39Speaker 3: need it by Friday. So Friday rolls around. Your boss
- 3:44Speaker 3: says did you finish that project? And you said, well,
- 3:49Speaker 3: actually I haven't started, but I do have a concept
- 3:53Speaker 3: of a plan.
- 3:55Speaker 4: Obviously, Kammler is trying to use him to the best
- 3:59Speaker 4: of her ability to help her get over the line
- 4:02Speaker 4: and deploy him as a political weapon. But I think
- 4:05Speaker 4: the I think the reality is is that he is
- 4:08Speaker 4: so much more effective in making these arguments than she is.
- 4:11Speaker 4: But this is what she needs. She needs to be
- 4:14Speaker 4: rolling out people like Barrick Obaman out. It really nail
- 4:18Speaker 4: her message in. With less than two weeks now away
- 4:21Speaker 4: from November five.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is directly appealing to American women on the
- 4:26Speaker 1: hot issue of abortion rights, but that leaves the Democrats
- 4:30Speaker 1: exposed with the other half of the population. There's a
- 4:33Speaker 1: significant differential in Harris's popularity with men.
- 4:38Speaker 4: I think there's been a problem for the Democrats over
- 4:42Speaker 4: a long period of time which Trump has exploited. And
- 4:46Speaker 4: I think this plays particularly towards young men who basically
- 4:51Speaker 4: have this combative view towards the left now and in
- 4:55Speaker 4: Donald Trump they see a figure and I conoclastic, irrev
- 5:00Speaker 4: and political figure who's willing to give the middle finger
- 5:04Speaker 4: to the left and the sense of political correctness and
- 5:10Speaker 4: these trends of diversity, equity, inclusion, and some of these
- 5:15Speaker 4: narratives about toxic masculinity and so on. So I think
- 5:20Speaker 4: if you look at it from that perspective, this is
- 5:24Speaker 4: one possible explanation for why Trump has been able to
- 5:28Speaker 4: say outrageous things from the absurd to the extreme, that
- 5:33Speaker 4: any other politician would never be able to say and
- 5:35Speaker 4: get away with, and yet not faced a penalty electorally.
- 5:40Speaker 5: They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're
- 5:43Speaker 5: eating the cats, they're eating.
- 5:45Speaker 4: In fact, he seems to have been rewarded and edging closer.
- 5:49Speaker 4: So I don't think that's something that you can really
- 5:51Speaker 4: arrest in the final two weeks of an election campaign. However,
- 5:54Speaker 4: I mean, if she loses, I think there will be
- 5:59Speaker 4: some need to address this issue about appealing to young men.
- 6:04Speaker 4: You can't just rely on young women to make up
- 6:08Speaker 4: for young men abandoning you. So I think if they
- 6:12Speaker 4: actually did something there that would make them more formidable.
- 6:15Speaker 4: But to look that's said, it's pretty late in the
- 6:17Speaker 4: dapt for them to be able to rectify that.
- 6:19Speaker 1: I'd say, in Pennsylvania on Tuesday, Donald Trump was working
- 6:24Speaker 1: a different angle, frying chips and flipping burgers at McDonald's.
- 6:29Speaker 5: This is not a normal situation, isn't it. I don't know.
- 6:32Speaker 5: When you want a good looking family, how did you
- 6:35Speaker 5: produce those good looking kids? Of course, the whole thing
- 6:37Speaker 5: was staged. The McDonald's was closed. They weren't real customers.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Adam Crichton has been the Australians correspondent in Washington, DC
- 6:45Speaker 1: for the past few years.
- 6:47Speaker 5: But it completely dominated the news cycle. And despite the
- 6:50Speaker 5: fact that now he's definitely a politician, he's no longer
- 6:52Speaker 5: a businessman, but he's still the master showman and he's
- 6:56Speaker 5: just got his mind on how things are going to
- 6:59Speaker 5: play in the media all the time. And I think
- 7:02Speaker 5: that stunt, and it was a stunt, really worked very
- 7:06Speaker 5: well for him.
- 7:07Speaker 1: He's got amazing stage presence. He is one of those
- 7:09Speaker 1: people with the X factor, isn't he. How seriously do
- 7:14Speaker 1: you think Americans are taking into account the things that
- 7:18Speaker 1: they learned about him since the twenty sixteen election, For example,
- 7:23Speaker 1: the events of January sixth, when a mob of his
- 7:25Speaker 1: supporters stormed the Capitol, his reluctance to concede power. Have
- 7:32Speaker 1: those things made a difference?
- 7:33Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I think they have and he must really
- 7:35Speaker 5: regret his behavior on January the sixth.
- 7:37Speaker 1: We fight like hell, and if you don't fight like hell,
- 7:40Speaker 1: you're not.
- 7:40Speaker 3: Going to have a country anymore.
- 7:42Speaker 5: Because I think if he hadn't behaved that way, and
- 7:45Speaker 5: of course he would dispute obviously that he did anything wrong,
- 7:47Speaker 5: but I'm sure in private he'd be like, oh, if
- 7:49Speaker 5: I just had have said a few more things, it
- 7:52Speaker 5: wouldn't be so bad for me. And I think he'd
- 7:53Speaker 5: be a shoeing to win, because the reality is the
- 7:56Speaker 5: Biden administration's very unpopular, and Harris is walking on eggshells
- 8:01Speaker 5: trying to distance herself from it while she still is
- 8:03Speaker 5: the vice president and she still has loyalty to Joe Biden.
- 8:05Speaker 5: So it's a hard task. Now you have the huge
- 8:07Speaker 5: influx of immigrants, which has been very unpopular in the
- 8:10Speaker 5: southern border, and then of course you had a couple
- 8:12Speaker 5: of years of nine percent inflation thereabouts, which hasn't happened
- 8:15Speaker 5: in your decades. So those two things would ordinarily see
- 8:18Speaker 5: the end of any government. But as you suggest, there
- 8:21Speaker 5: is all this baggage that Trump has, and it is
- 8:23Speaker 5: very huge, and it's certainly ways on his candidacy.
- 8:25Speaker 1: It has to Trump's seventy eight now, and he says
- 8:29Speaker 1: if he loses, he won't try again in twenty twenty eight.
- 8:33Speaker 5: He pretty emphatically ruled that out a few weeks ago.
- 8:36Speaker 5: It wasn't widely reported in the mainstream media, but no,
- 8:38Speaker 5: he was pretty emphatic. He said, no, absolutely not.
- 8:40Speaker 2: I will not run again.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Coming up, can Trump actually win this? While I've got you,
- 8:47Speaker 1: there's a new episode of our podcast Bromwin coming this weekend.
- 8:51Speaker 1: It's the cold case investigation by one of the world's
- 8:54Speaker 1: most famous investigative journalists, our very own Headley Thomas. You
- 8:59Speaker 1: can check out the latter episode and hear all of
- 9:01Speaker 1: Bromwin first and read all our exclusive stories by joining
- 9:05Speaker 1: us subscribers at the Australian dot com dot au. Cameron
- 9:26Speaker 1: Stewart will bought a plane to America in the coming days,
- 9:29Speaker 1: where he'll join Joe Kelly and Adam Crichton on the ground.
- 9:33Speaker 1: His intern will be holding the fort here in Australia
- 9:36Speaker 1: while he's gone. I like your fairy friend.
- 9:40Speaker 2: This is Corgy, a cat called Corgy.
- 9:42Speaker 1: As the Australian's chief international correspondent, Cam's covered his fair
- 9:46Speaker 1: share of US elections. He was there in twenty sixteen
- 9:50Speaker 1: and again in twenty twenty. Cam was at Capitol Hill
- 9:54Speaker 1: on January sixth when a mob of Trump supporters stormed Congress.
- 10:03Speaker 2: No presidential election has been this closed for so long,
- 10:06Speaker 2: for sixty years. And what I think is remarkable about that, Claire,
- 10:09Speaker 2: is We've never really had such leading drama. We've had
- 10:13Speaker 2: a sitting president at the eleventh hour abandoned his candidacy.
- 10:17Speaker 2: We've had two assassination attempts, complete with a bloodied the
- 10:21Speaker 2: year and a defiant vist pump.
- 10:29Speaker 3: Ready shoot us down.
- 10:39Speaker 2: And we've had the sudden rise of a black woman
- 10:42Speaker 2: taking on a newly convicted felon. After all of that,
- 10:46Speaker 2: you would have thought somehow or either one of the
- 10:47Speaker 2: candidates would surge ahead. But here we are almost deadlocked
- 10:51Speaker 2: less than two weeks before the election.
- 10:54Speaker 1: Over the years, you've spoken to thousands of Americans. Cam
- 10:57Speaker 1: what's your sense now of where where America is at?
- 11:01Speaker 1: Are they willing to give Donald Trump another chance?
- 11:04Speaker 2: I think they are potentially willing, Claire. It's interesting because
- 11:07Speaker 2: the electric is changing. It's changed from the previous campaigns
- 11:10Speaker 2: I've covered, and a lot of it has gone in
- 11:15Speaker 2: Trump's favor to an extent. For example, Trump is now
- 11:18Speaker 2: winning black and Hispanic votes that he never won before,
- 11:22Speaker 2: and that doesn't get these and the Hispanic voters are
- 11:25Speaker 2: still overwhelming with Democrat, but he's peeling off one tenth
- 11:28Speaker 2: of them or fifth of them's according to some polls.
- 11:32Speaker 2: And you know that could be a really important fact
- 11:35Speaker 2: that in a close race like this we're seeing Trump
- 11:39Speaker 2: his red red meat megabase is very loyal. They will
- 11:43Speaker 2: never move. The key for Trump is can he win
- 11:45Speaker 2: back the middle ground which he lost last time. Now
- 11:48Speaker 2: in areas like the Hispanic vote, the Black volt and
- 11:51Speaker 2: also just the mail vote. He's got very high support
- 11:54Speaker 2: amongst men, that fifteen percent advantage compared to Krmala Harris.
- 11:58Speaker 2: So there are who is a solid constituency for Trump
- 12:02Speaker 2: and it could be enough to get him over the line.
- 12:04Speaker 2: But on the other side, we have a gender to
- 12:06Speaker 2: bide here where Carla Harris enjoys a massive amount of
- 12:10Speaker 2: support from women. They are of about fifteen percent as well.
- 12:13Speaker 2: And also we have younger voters. The difference I think
- 12:16Speaker 2: between this and the twenty twenty election I Coavi Claire,
- 12:18Speaker 2: is that a lot of younger voters are getting very
- 12:20Speaker 2: energized and enjoining this. They're registering for voting now, et
- 12:23Speaker 2: cetera on the Democrat side, mainly because they see Harris
- 12:28Speaker 2: as a generational change a candidate where they didn't get
- 12:31Speaker 2: that with Biden in twenty twenty. And I think that's
- 12:34Speaker 2: something that the Democrats are really hoping will be a
- 12:37Speaker 2: key factor here, get out the vote amongst young Democrat voters.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Poles have been getting US voting sentiment wrong now for
- 12:45Speaker 1: nearly a decade. So can we trust the polls this
- 12:49Speaker 1: time around?
- 12:50Speaker 2: There's a critical question because in twenty sixteen, of course,
- 12:53Speaker 2: the poles famously underestimated Trump. He came and defeated tell
- 12:57Speaker 2: to read Clinton when he was up to three points
- 12:59Speaker 2: behind on the day. So the poles were very wrong.
- 13:03Speaker 2: And then all the posters said, hey, that's okay, we've
- 13:05Speaker 2: fixed it. We've worked it out. This is the signment
- 13:07Speaker 2: Trump voter. We're going to adjust our polls accordingly. In
- 13:10Speaker 2: twenty twenty, they are also disastrous. They underestimated the Trump
- 13:13Speaker 2: vote by about three point five percentage points on average,
- 13:17Speaker 2: So that meant that while Biden did win the twenty
- 13:19Speaker 2: twenty lesion, he went up by far less than the
- 13:21Speaker 2: poles were suggesting. Now the posters like the boy who
- 13:24Speaker 2: Crow Will are saying yes, we've fixed it again. Believe
- 13:27Speaker 2: us this time around. But now if they have, fine,
- 13:31Speaker 2: But if they haven't, then Trump will win because the
- 13:34Speaker 2: Poles are simply too close.
- 13:36Speaker 5: So if the.
- 13:36Speaker 2: Poles again underestimate Trump, he will win. And that's a
- 13:39Speaker 2: real wildcard and that's certainly what a lot of Trump
- 13:42Speaker 2: voters are quite hoping for.
- 13:43Speaker 1: Of course, you can read and watch all the reporting
- 13:46Speaker 1: and analysis from Cameron, Joe and Adam for the coming
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