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Headless' Magical Mailbag, Grand Cercle Cabalistique & Pillars of Creation · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What what's gonna happen?
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  Speaker 3: I'll take one?
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  Speaker 2: What help?
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  Speaker 1: Well? What's off? Everybody? Welcome to another Headless is magical
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  Speaker 1: mail bag. I got my co host Nick with me.
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  Speaker 1: How's he doing? Nick?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on? Doing very well in your SOLSA?
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  Speaker 1: Oh not bad? Long day of work? But you know
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  Speaker 1: we good bye? Yes, So tonight we got a couple
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  Speaker 1: essentials and a couple of pieces of male And if
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  Speaker 1: you want to go first, you can hit it.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, let's do this all right? So uh before to
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  Speaker 3: bring it up, I can't see, so you're awesome. You
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  Speaker 3: already have a pull up.
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  Speaker 2: So, ladies and gentlemen, this is.
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  Speaker 3: This is from This is the Grand I'm gonna try
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  Speaker 3: to pronounce Grand Circle Cabalist or Grand c E R
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  Speaker 3: C L E C A B A l I S
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  Speaker 3: t i q E Grand Circle Cabitalist state.
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  Speaker 2: You know whatever.
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  Speaker 3: And this is a plate from the Grand Game, the
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  Speaker 3: Grand Grim War, or some people know as the Red Dragon.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And it is used for the books packed in treasure
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  Speaker 3: right in some And I actually found this why I
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  Speaker 3: was looking into it so I thought it was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: worth mentioning I have seen sometimes as it's labeled as
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  Speaker 3: the true Clavicles of Solomon, but it's not.
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  Speaker 2: You can even tell by the just the stuff that's
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  Speaker 2: right on the inside.
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  Speaker 3: Although there's many printed copies that supposedly suggest that the
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  Speaker 3: Grand Grimoire is from fifteen twenty one, fifteen twenty two,
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  Speaker 3: are possibly even fourteen twenty one, historians do place it
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  Speaker 3: around the eighteenth to early nineteenth century, and the popular
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  Speaker 3: print when it did come.
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  Speaker 2: Out then, which is interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to mention because I think, I mean, at
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  Speaker 3: least a couple of Michael Myers we brought this up,
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  Speaker 3: and I found it just an interesting name. When it
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  Speaker 3: first came out, it was coming out in the French
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  Speaker 3: BiblioTech blue chapbook tradition, which is basically almost like pamphlet size,
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  Speaker 3: and it has a blue cover and it actually translates
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  Speaker 3: to blue book. So I always thought that was weird.
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  Speaker 3: Now we have all these occultists and all these alchemists
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  Speaker 3: with these blue books, and we got blue book going
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  Speaker 3: on now today, which some silly shit.
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  Speaker 2: So who knows.
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  Speaker 3: But there is an historian Owen Davies who argues for
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  Speaker 3: an eighteenth century origin and basically says he thinks it
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  Speaker 3: was mass produced by like the mid seventeenth century, I
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  Speaker 3: mean by the mid seventeen hundred, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: And then there's also a you know, there's also by
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  Speaker 3: Titan Press. They reproduced a French edition that they said
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  Speaker 3: is from fifteen twenty one, but still people say it's
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  Speaker 3: from the eighteenth to nineteenth century. So enough on that,
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  Speaker 3: all right, So what is this? It's a flaw plan
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  Speaker 3: that the operator lays out on the ground before conjuring.
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  Speaker 3: So there are different printings that show a little bit
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  Speaker 3: different variants, like the aut whatever V I think on,
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  Speaker 3: there might be am on some other ones, but pretty
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  Speaker 3: much the same. Will quick, will, real quick, we'll go
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  Speaker 3: over some of the things that are on here. You
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  Speaker 3: got the route do t resor that is the path
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  Speaker 3: to treasure, the doorway you exit when the spirit leads
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  Speaker 3: you to the hoard. Then you have late Cursey or
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  Speaker 3: the carcist that is, the chief operator standing at the
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  Speaker 3: apex inside the triangle, which is kind of unusual because
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  Speaker 3: in solomonic practices you stand outside of the triangle in
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  Speaker 3: a circle and the spirit goes into the triangle by itself.
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  Speaker 3: In this one, the carcist that I guess would be
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  Speaker 3: like the chief operator.
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  Speaker 2: Is the magician.
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  Speaker 3: Then you will have Lai's uh douches, and then you'll
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  Speaker 3: have a U t or a m res. That means
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  Speaker 3: the two others. Those will be two assistants. They'll be
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  Speaker 3: standing with you in there. You know, when I came
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  Speaker 3: across that, I actually thought that was a little bit
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  Speaker 3: interesting because it does remind me a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: the Gnostic Mass, because you have the two children, childs
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  Speaker 3: that follow the priest or the yeah, the priest. The
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  Speaker 3: priestess follows the priestests throughout the you know, the ritual.
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  Speaker 3: So it just it just reminded me of like how
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  Speaker 3: she has two assistants too. So and there was a
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  Speaker 3: time when Israel Regard he had mentioned that Crowley one time,
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  Speaker 3: I think when he went to like invoked Chromazon. Howe
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  Speaker 3: you say that thing's the name? Supposedly he put himself
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  Speaker 3: inside the triangle. So, you know, unless maybe the guy
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  Speaker 3: didn't know about this or was just trying to be edgy,
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  Speaker 3: the story's not real. I was wondering if he did
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  Speaker 3: do it, was he influenced by this, because this shows
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  Speaker 3: you inside the triangle, all right, enough, of that, then
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  Speaker 3: he gonna have the j HS the Jesus monogram between
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  Speaker 3: the two crosses, so the spirits cannot harm you from behind.
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  Speaker 3: Is That's what the text says, that that's there to
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  Speaker 3: protect you back. And sometimes it will also have which
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  Speaker 3: I think has on here, that has the A A E,
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  Speaker 3: A J, And that's for the I don't I elm
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  Speaker 3: ari L and Jehovam.
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  Speaker 2: Then a little bit on how it's done.
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  Speaker 3: You get you get a nice goat skin pegging on
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  Speaker 3: the ground with four nails, and you put that triangle
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  Speaker 3: in the draw everything on there, and use the stone
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  Speaker 3: cold oh abehematite. The two candles supposed to be a
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  Speaker 3: virgin wax and candlesticks, each wreath wreathed with verbena and ay,
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  Speaker 3: and like a new brazier or the thing that you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna burn, the wooden that's supposed to be brand new,
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  Speaker 3: burning consecrated willow, charcoal, incense and camphor. So the circle
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  Speaker 3: is the stage for the book's most notorious right, a
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  Speaker 3: Christianized poetic conjation, conjuration to bargain with lucifer a, lucifuge,
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  Speaker 3: real facal or wherever whatever, blah blah, iye can't pronounce.
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  Speaker 2: That for treasure or worldly favors.
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  Speaker 3: The operator, carcists and two assistants stand inside the triangle.
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  Speaker 3: The candles alit, the brazaire is kindled, and prayers to
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  Speaker 3: add and n I, Elohim, a Ariel, and Jehovah are spoken,
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  Speaker 3: and the spirit is then supposed to be compelled to
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  Speaker 3: show up. When the spirit appears and agrees, the carcus
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  Speaker 3: exits the triangle by the route treasure or the thing
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  Speaker 3: I was saying before, that's how you go and follows
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  Speaker 3: the guide to the horde. And I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: the hell that means, but that's the treasure yea.
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  Speaker 2: And how to read the symbolism again?
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  Speaker 3: Uh. The triangle outside a circle a compact protective theater.
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  Speaker 3: The book operator stands within the triangle, not the circle.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And while the Christian names in JHS fortify the boundary,
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  Speaker 3: the candles in the verbane reads the consecrated light. And
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  Speaker 3: a plant with long apotropic pedigree supposed to like you
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  Speaker 3: don't symbolize somehow the alphamega the flaming brazil. That's the
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  Speaker 3: living fire that carries the prayers and consecrations in the
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  Speaker 3: right or in the practice and it's how the carcist
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  Speaker 3: maintains a pure, continuous fire during.
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  Speaker 2: Negotiating. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean that's really kind of about it. I
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  Speaker 3: mean really isn't too much more I could probably add
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  Speaker 3: to it.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much stuff in there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean like the Brazil itself, the braziers, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: got this uh, same qual quality that all the pagan
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  Speaker 1: temples had. You know, they always had the fumigation, right,
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  Speaker 1: That's that's a big part of the right is having
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  Speaker 1: the fumigation and uh the you know all these did
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  Speaker 1: they say what type of metal the candlestickholders were supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be made out of?
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  Speaker 2: No, which I was actually a little surprised, or at
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  Speaker 2: least where I like the one thing I did kind
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  Speaker 2: of come across. This was like almost spur of the moment, so.
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  Speaker 1: Right, But usually it's like when you're talking metals, you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about a deity or some type of you know,
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  Speaker 1: cosmic force.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it.
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  Speaker 3: I had different types of candlesticks met out of different ship,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, for different reasons. I have copper, depending
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  Speaker 3: on if I want to work with somebody else's silver.
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  Speaker 3: But it's a little expensive. Yeah, you can stop buying
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  Speaker 3: different metals candlesticks, right, brass, I think I brass too,
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  Speaker 3: or some shit like that.
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  Speaker 1: I think the trinkets are key because a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people think I got to buy all this gold. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you don't just get a little trinket. You don't have
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  Speaker 1: to buy anything big. I mean, that's that's the issue
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of magicians find themselves in, is like
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  Speaker 1: where do I get the materials for the stuff? I
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  Speaker 1: think smaller? You know, it's all I can say.
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  Speaker 2: I've actually heard a lot of well, I mean I heard.
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  Speaker 3: A few like well named magicians. I will even say, like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, sometimes you kind of mind fuck yourself
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  Speaker 3: with that stuff, but there might be substitutes that you
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  Speaker 3: could use.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be just as fun.
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  Speaker 1: Right right. That's why Libra seven seven seven so important. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: got all those institutions.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Yes, we got to make that happen soon.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I mean there's so many different elements that you
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  Speaker 1: see in the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you got the four directions, the circle that that triangle
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  Speaker 1: is kind of concerning if you think about it, what
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  Speaker 1: are you what are you actually doing? In? There are
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  Speaker 1: you causing Lucifer to go into you. Is that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's why I thought it was rather interesting
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  Speaker 3: because they do say that, you know, you're supposed to uh,
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  Speaker 3: you're not supposed to have them really like you're not
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be in the triangle again, the Solomonic one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're supposed to be on side of it. And you're
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  Speaker 3: even wearing stuff. You're even wearing the sigils and symbols
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  Speaker 3: on your stuff to even like be like, I'm rending
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  Speaker 3: you powerless. You know, I don't know if that was
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  Speaker 3: you know, for all I know, there was other things.
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  Speaker 2: To this ritual that just wasn't added. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but very different considering what is known or.
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  Speaker 1: Usual, right, common practice?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, different from common practice.
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  Speaker 1: You got a lot of different magicians with a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different exposure levels, and so you know, they don't
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  Speaker 1: have the internet. Yeah, so this is like a massive
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  Speaker 1: game of telephone because you're not allowed to say this publicly,
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  Speaker 1: and it kind of degrades from one generation to the next.
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  Speaker 1: So and this whole you put Jesus behind you because
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  Speaker 1: he's supposed to watch you back. That's kind of concerning.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's kind of funny how it's I mean,
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  Speaker 3: one thing I actually do want to eventually cover on
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  Speaker 3: this show. I don't think Christians realize how much Christian
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  Speaker 3: magic there is. Oh yeah, but this, this falls this
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  Speaker 3: falls under it. You know what I'm saying. I kind
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  Speaker 3: of find it funny how like it's Christian magic, but
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  Speaker 3: you're asking a demon for fucking.
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  Speaker 2: Money to get your money and treasures?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Sorry, interesting, that's the thing you also say, like,
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  Speaker 1: Satan get behind me, right, that's a common saying.
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  Speaker 3: So oh yo, you know what the star Ruby starts
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  Speaker 3: off like that, You put your finger on yourthing, you
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  Speaker 3: go up a Ponto's kaka Dominos, and you saying demons
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  Speaker 3: get behind me right?
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  Speaker 1: What are they doing in this one? Again? It's like
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  Speaker 1: this is almost like the reverse magic that you kind
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  Speaker 1: of know what to do. It's it's almost it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a reformulation, but it's it's kind of all wrong. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it could be a trick. You never know, it's a
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  Speaker 1: trap to play traps on each other and ship yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually it's kind of fucked up with funny.
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  Speaker 3: Let's put out like full ship because you know, these
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  Speaker 3: motherfuckers are trying to learn something.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's how that's how Wick started.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, Jared Gardner. He just wanted to spank some women,
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  Speaker 1: and he made a whole religion out of him.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, Yo, all you do is get ugly
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  Speaker 3: bitches at the oto. I gotta start something. Yeah, I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 3: I'm bad. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean seriously, though, all he did was change
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  Speaker 1: the aesthetics. It's the same rituals.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean for people who don't know he
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  Speaker 3: was a student in the House the crowlies and he
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  Speaker 3: didn't even give him the option though he open up
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  Speaker 3: a lodge under his name, well opening, you know, he
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  Speaker 3: could open up a lodge.
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  Speaker 2: He went with Wika For some reason.
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  Speaker 1: He wanted to wear nothing in the woods. I think
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  Speaker 1: that was the thing. I mean, he didn't say anything
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  Speaker 1: about that in the Golden DoD So might as well
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  Speaker 1: make your own thing and just get naked in the woods.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, wait this on naked people of the woods.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta stop my ouch.
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  Speaker 2: I guarantee that it was probably yeah, you know, he
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  Speaker 2: definitely seemed like a fucking weirdo.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he's just like, don't you don't you ladies
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  Speaker 1: know what this whole thing was about. I mean, just
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  Speaker 1: read about Jail Gardner for five minutes. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's still about Teddies just left the boy, right, It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't enough to have the Gnostic Mass. He wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be surrounding. He wanted to see how far he could
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  Speaker 1: take it, you know, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, that's hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: Man. We still got to do that Jaro Gardner show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it.
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  Speaker 3: Would be interesting. Actually, yeah, we should do that. That
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  Speaker 3: probably really probably wouldn't be too hard.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like he's a newer name.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like you'd have to go crazy trying to
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  Speaker 3: like research old old old ship, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And his stuff is in English, so that helps.
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  Speaker 1: You got all this Wicked stuff from the nineties, dude,
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  Speaker 1: you could just play clips of these different movies.
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  Speaker 3: And Scott Cunning him right.
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  Speaker 1: People don't understand that, you know, Wicked was basically that
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  Speaker 1: for a long time. It was just it was exactly
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  Speaker 1: what they showed you on the screen. It's like that's
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  Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do. And it's like, okay, is
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  Speaker 1: there anything more to this stuff? And then you try
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  Speaker 1: and read into their books and stuff and it's like
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  Speaker 1: none of it goes beyond one on one level.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, it's all like it's like it's basically reading
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  Speaker 3: a Georgina Rose post or not darlings, It's that's basic.
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  Speaker 1: Yup.
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  Speaker 2: It really is this is this and that is that,
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  Speaker 2: and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, is this occultism or what? Yeah? I mean
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  Speaker 1: you can't get into it more and other other works
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  Speaker 1: and find out why they're saying those things. But they
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  Speaker 1: don't exactly tell you in these books. It's just like
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  Speaker 1: do this, then there you go. Yeah. I was kind
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  Speaker 1: of disappointed by it, but you know, you dig deeper
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  Speaker 1: into the past and then you can see where the
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  Speaker 1: roots of this stuff go. But let's see here I got.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's see what you got it?
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  Speaker 1: Oh shit, Pillars of Creation. So this is a hubble
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  Speaker 1: telescope rendering Oh fuck of these massive It's in the
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  Speaker 1: horse said Nebula or Egle Nebula of the Serpent's constellation.
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  Speaker 1: So it's the eagle within the serpent, right, and this
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  Speaker 1: is the Pillars of Creation. So what they're showing you
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  Speaker 1: there is massive plasma clouds that are millions of miles wide,
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  Speaker 1: millions of miles high, and this is where stars are born, really,
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  Speaker 1: so within within these nebulae they'll have a collapse of
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  Speaker 1: gravity and then a star will pop out of the
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  Speaker 1: dust clouds. So that's why they call them the pillars
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  Speaker 1: of creation. And it's in the egle nebula of the
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  Speaker 1: serpents constellation, so creation exists within that eagle holding the serpent,
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  Speaker 1: creation of stars and galaxies. Well, anyways, they are so
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  Speaker 1: named because the gas and dust are in the process
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  Speaker 1: of creating new stars while also being eroded by the
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  Speaker 1: light from nearby stars that have recently formed. So these
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  Speaker 1: things are being constantly shifted around. But this, this image
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  Speaker 1: is pretty iconic.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think I have actually seen this, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And and there's other ones where they zoom out
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  Speaker 1: even more and you can see the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: horse or the eagle nebula. And it's funny because they've
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  Speaker 1: kind of reversed the order, you know. So it's the
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  Speaker 1: serpent's constellation and the ego nebulas, so it's almost like
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  Speaker 1: the eagle is inside the serpent.
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  Speaker 3: It's always together, well at least you know, with the
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  Speaker 3: states it is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, a lot of these things were named before they
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  Speaker 1: knew what nebulas even were so nebulus for a long
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  Speaker 1: time were just thought to be massive blobs of stars,
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  Speaker 1: and so the ancients called it nebulae because they didn't
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  Speaker 1: exactly know what they were looking at. You know, they
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  Speaker 1: had a lot better view of the sky, but you
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  Speaker 1: could actually see them pretty pretty clearly with the naked eye.
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  Speaker 1: It just looks like massive star clusters. And so I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure it was named as the Eagle nebulae before the
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  Speaker 1: modern telescopes were invented. So it goes back to something
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  Speaker 1: very ancient, and this is where these stars are being born.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought that was a pretty interesting crossover. And
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  Speaker 1: it's become kind of an iconic symbol and I thought,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that symbolism, but you know, there's so much
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  Speaker 1: associated with the pillars in ancient times that Pillars of
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  Speaker 1: Creation kind of kind of has a cobbalistic feel to it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, oh for sure, and you got the
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  Speaker 1: three pillars here, you know, here's the darkest, but it
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: kind of, yeah, it gives a lot of and again,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: like all of this plasma is so important, you know,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I mean we've talked about space plasma before. Zero G
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: plasma kind of forms these uh filaments of consciousness almost,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and you get these shapes that are formed in it,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and it's it's really interesting. When frequency hits it, you
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: start to see collapses in different Uh. I guess it
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: would be what would what would the form of cymatics
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: be if you're talking about dust? I guess it would
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: still be cymatics, right, So you would get interesting cymatics
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: out of the And then you've got these different colors
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: too that are creating frequency. So it's just a really
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: interesting sort of like a birthplace for stars and like
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: gases and nebulas and all that stuff. So I thought
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: it was pretty cool.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like this. Yeah, no, I like this image. Uh,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: it's pretty cool. But yeah, looks spiritual, Like even Donald said,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: it looks spiritual.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like a rorshack test, you know, And
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: it's just like all these different parts and these symbols
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: are kind of all part of getting meaning out of it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: That's some of my favorite symbolism.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: You think it's interesting. Would you consider brown being a
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: color in there?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, the brown and the purple and then kind
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: of the blackish. I mean I guess eventually it's black.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, those are all colors associated with sound into
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: you know, the pillows of creation. So I don't know,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: it's just interesting even like the.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Colors and stuff, right, so hold on, I'm looking for
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: male nice.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna ask you if we had anything
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Lucy Rose upset earth tones definitely, mhm.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I think there's something interesting about the colors they chose,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: because this is not the true color image. You know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: the hubble took a bunch of different scans and then
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: they had to fill it in with their own colors.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: So they're kind of choosing what kind of colors are
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: going in here, and that that one on top just
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: has these great rays of light coming out of it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if if that actually has a a
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: different type of you know, feel to it. Well, I
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: got some mail from Donald Ferguson.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, this should be a good one. It might
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: just be like Nico, fuck yourself.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: No, it says chymistry. Chymistry furnishes us a method of
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: making artificial earthquakes which shall have all the great effects
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: of natural ones, and it as it may illustrate the
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: process of nature and the production of these terrible phenomena underground.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: And we insert it provide eighteen or twenty pounds of
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: sulfur and as much of the filings of iron and
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: make them into the constants of taste with common water.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: This being buried under the ground eight or ten hours time,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: will vomit flames and cause the earth to tremble all
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: around the place to a considerable distance. Oh wow, this
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: is interesting because before the show I was telling Nick
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: about what happened in three sixty three BC or AD
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: where Julie and the Apostle tried to rebuild the Temple
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: of Solomon for the Jews, and then you have them
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: all migrate back there, and in the process of laying
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the foundation, the earth was belching forth balls of fire,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and there was lightning strikes, and there were builders that
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: were actually killed in the process of trying to lay
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: this foundation. This sounds like a little And they also
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: said earthquakes. So in about eight or ten hours time
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: will vomit flames and cause the earth to tremble all
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: around the place to a considerable distance, such as the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: effect of even two cold bodies in the cold ground.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: There only wants a sufficient quantity of this mixture to
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: produce real apna if it were supposed to burst out
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: under the sea. It would produce a water spout and
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: it would in the clouds. Effect would be thunder and lightning.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Unknown source. It sounds like he's giving us a alchemical treatise. Yeah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: that definitely sounds like an alchemical formula.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Well, especially coming from Donald I would expect that anyway.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Right, But that's interesting. So it's just iron shavings and sulfur.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: That is interesting.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's not too hard to get a hold of.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Oh no, no at all, No, all right, not at all.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Thanks all made it happen. Oh yo, you know what
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I want to mention real quick before you before you
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: go in. If you have anything else, let me. I
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: just want to mention these dates to these places that
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: we got going on here. September, September twenty sixth, and
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: twenty seventh. There will be like a big foot thing
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: in Mount Airy and Georgia. Your cold rejects will have
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: a botta. October fourth, there's like another big foot cryptid
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: like stuff like that in Franklin, North Carolina. We'll be
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: there with it booth October twenty fifth to the twenty sixth.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: It's like some UFO thing. I think the twenty fifth
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: believe it or not, I'm not gonna go for that.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: If this is correct, I think the twenty fifth might
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: be like the C five going on the night before
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the conference, but the next day will be there. November
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: twenty second. Oh, that's in Greensville, South Carolina. The twenty
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: fifth and twenty sixth of October November twenty second in Morisville,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: North Carolina, the UFO Comic Con.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: There's a thing going on there. We got a booth there.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: December fifth and sixth is a whole bunch of like authors,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: artist and filmmakers doing some art comic con at Mount
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Airy in Georgia, and we will be there as well.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: And October eighteenth, if you're in Fort Myers, Florida, there
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: is Charlie's Beyond Belief event that's from ten am to
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: five pm. Brook from Dark, Florida will be one of
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: the guests there. She will have her own booth. Me
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: and Tyrone will be there and some of Brooks ladies
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: that she works with they will have a booth there too,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: So you'll come down check it out if you're guys
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: having to be around. Oh oh, and another thing because
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: of that, just to try to make back, like some
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: of the money because I'm driving air Bnb's and shit
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: to do this, believe it or not. The booths from
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: those six events, the six out of the seven events
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: given to us for free because they.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Told them who we were and they wanted us there.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: That's why I'm even going is because when I had
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: told him I was looking to get a booth, and
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I was like, it's the occult rejects. I don't know
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: if he looked U up and knew who he was,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: but he's like, yo, I got six events. He's like,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I'll give you a booth at every one of them
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: for free. If you just mentioned that you're going to
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: these things, It's like, yo, I got you.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: So there we go.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: We got to spot at all of them and to
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: cut down the court of me, like you know, obviously
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: driving the Airbnbs, I'm gotting. I had T shirts like
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: masks made by like a real company, and they're sending
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: them in and if headless, if you don't mind, I
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: could just pull it up on the bottom. I want
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: to show I got two different things coming in that
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: we'll be available to for the people who listen. We
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: have this one coming in on a black T shirt
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: and they should be even like the tagless ones that
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: are really soft and like you know, aren't like a stiff,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: thick noise T shirt.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: These are actually comfortable ones.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I got this one coming and then I also have
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: this one coming.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: So we've got two of these and I will have
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: at both booths.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Uh, I'm gonna hopefully, I mean, it depends on how
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: much the shipping is. I would like to be able
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: to do shipped in everything for twenty five. I don't
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: know if I can the most it will be for thirty,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: but I'm really hoping like twenty five dollars like shipped
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: and everything to everybody. So there we go. Those will
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: be coming in. I'll have medium, large, and extra large.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: So like and they're all like basically men's so if
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: you the women, you might want to just go for
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: the mediums. If you want to try to fit into them,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: it's like, so go for that. Yeah, awesome, all right,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I'm done. Oh your immunity to yourself there, buddy.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Those are great designs. Those are the new holy garments, right,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you gotta wear them everywhere you go.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I'll definitely be yo, I'll definitely be wearing about at
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: the Yeah, one of those Yo, I even got. I
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: got a banner that's coming from hanging from the table.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: And then I got a I got a six It's
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: a two feet almost three feet two point seven five
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: by six point seventy five, one of those stand up
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: banners with like a it's got a like a thing
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: to hold it up, and everything of the image of
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: the guy and the and the and the scarlet horror
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: on the checkerboard on the checkerboard floor with the like him,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: you know, like a marionette. I got that one, like
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: as soon as you, as soon as yo and the
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Charlie's one.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: This is great.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: We picked Booth thirty three, and obviously I wanted to
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: take it because it was open and I was looking
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: at it. When you're walking into the room, Booth one
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: is against that wall. So the first booth you're going
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: to see, because I'm a cross from Booth one, is
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: your cult rejects before you even open up, before you
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: even get into that fucking room. So I made sure
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I had to get something that caught everybody's attention, and
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: that that bat is gonna catch everybody's Oh.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, and you're gonna be doing live streams from
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: out there too.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they well, yeah, they all wanted me to
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: try to do that. I told them.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I was like, like, listen, as long as I as
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: long as I have somebody with me, I say, I
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: could definitely get that done. I said, I can by myself.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: But if I'm by myself, there's only so much I
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: can do because it's kind of hard a camera and
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: a mic, you know whatever. But yeah we will. Yeah,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: and Brookott with thirty two, so that's pretty funny. I
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: got thirty three. She's got thirty two, and then like her,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: the girls that do with the other cryptid stuff and
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: the bigfoot stuff, they're like a couple boots down. So
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: like we got like almost like this one little corner too,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: so people can make it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Man, it should be fun. I got a little little
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: section for us.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Hell, yes, I mean if you set up a little
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: camera and everything out there, you could actually interview people.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: I wanted to try to do that. Actually, yes, that's
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: what I mean. And Tyrone already talking about doing that,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: trying to like interview people on livestream from the one
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: in Fort Myers.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: For sure, that's gonna be great. Yeah, well there's a
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: lot to look forward to people.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and and there might also be there also might
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: be a possibility that, like, since I'm out there already
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: and it's kind of close to Halloween, I did to
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: speak to Brook about possibly close.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: To Halloween the Occult Rejects or you know, even if
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: a few people or whatever could have maybe made it
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: down there to do an investigation with her. And now
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: since this popped up, me and her are thinking about
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: possibly trying to like fit an investigation in with the
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: whole thing. So you know, maybe they'll even be something
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: that we got to put out around that time too,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: with us going out with our camera is looking for
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: something weird that's bad ass.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be fun as hell, man, it'll be really fun.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I think this is this is gonna be big. I mean,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: there's there's lots of good things coming with people. So
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: definitely share this round and let people know because it's
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: gonna be all over Instagram and X and all that stuff.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: You don't want to miss it. So it's gonna be awesome.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Well that's it for our show. Thank you for joining us.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: We're right at that thirty minute mark. Go ahead and
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: tell them where they can find you.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the occult rejects at Bitch You, Rumble, YouTube and
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: all major podcasts. Yeah, thank you very much. Again, Hell Lias,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I was a good one. I always enjoyed doing the
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: show with you.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it all right, Thank you very much and we'll
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: see you again next time.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Lead Mine