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Postgame Show | Panthers vs. Jaguars Preseason Week 2 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Postgame presented by Geha. Join Brian Sexton,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Dempsey, and Pride to the Jaguars Fred Taylor as
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  Speaker 1: they break down today's game. Jaguars Postgame is brought to
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  Speaker 1: starts right now.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Welcome in everybody. The Jaguars fall to one and
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  Speaker 2: one in the preseason, falling to the Carolina Panthers thirty
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  Speaker 2: four to seventeen. The final Tonight Jaguars Postgame brought to
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  Speaker 2: you by g EH, A Government Employees Health Association Benefits
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  Speaker 2: for federal employees and retirees.
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  Speaker 3: On.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Depsey, on Coach Duff back again to Rabbel Rouse
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  Speaker 2: for the second week.
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  Speaker 4: In a row. Coach, I'm doing great and great to
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  Speaker 4: be with you and Fred. It's the legend. Real treat
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  Speaker 4: all the legends.
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  Speaker 2: Let Freddy, you never know it's preseason. We're happy to
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  Speaker 2: have you. Fred Taylor, Jaguar, great here of us. Wish
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  Speaker 2: the Jags could have welcomed your back with a victory tonight.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I do. I understand it.
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  Speaker 6: You know, former player, I know exactly how it goes.
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  Speaker 6: The thing is, preseason is a moment where everybody gets
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  Speaker 6: to overreact. One play, a guy turns into a Hall
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  Speaker 6: of Famer all of a sudden, or maybe a few
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  Speaker 6: other players that team.
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  Speaker 5: Your team might.
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  Speaker 6: Go to the super Bowl according to preseason predictions.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, it's good to be here.
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  Speaker 6: It's good to kind of see football back in the atmosphere,
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  Speaker 6: especially here in Jacksonville. Just kind of toured the stadium earlier.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Man, that is a massive renovation job. But what I
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  Speaker 6: do love about it, even though it's going to be
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  Speaker 6: limited sitting, the intimacy of it all being able to
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  Speaker 6: have Duvall County Jacksonville kind of come out and support
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  Speaker 6: their team no matter what. I was talking to someone
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  Speaker 6: earlier and they said, look, we could have probably just
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  Speaker 6: got a new stadium, they could have found some land where,
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  Speaker 6: but to make sure you maintain this one the soul
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  Speaker 6: of every game that's been there since day one, and
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  Speaker 6: the fans are showing up as well on top of that.
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  Speaker 6: So I think that's the most beautiful thing about it all.
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  Speaker 6: But here we are, new season, new set of expectations,
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  Speaker 6: got to convince the fans to forget about last year
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  Speaker 6: somehow and move forward from here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, last year is memorable, right, thirteen win season,
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  Speaker 2: but it doesn't get anything to start the season off tough.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's owing. Oh and which, by the way, you don't
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  Speaker 2: carry thirty four to seventeen. This lost the night. Won't
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  Speaker 2: matter right now, won't matter by Monday, but certainly won't
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  Speaker 2: matter three weeks from now.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, and really this team right now, the core
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  Speaker 4: of this team is back, and they know how last
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  Speaker 4: year felt. I know they felt like they left meat
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  Speaker 4: on the bone. So I think I've seen in the
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  Speaker 4: both in the spring when they had OTA's and what
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  Speaker 4: I've seen in training camp. They're determined to get back
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  Speaker 4: on track and re establish toughness, re established production, and
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  Speaker 4: fight their ways to get into the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: Talked about this at halftime. I don't think Liam Cohen
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  Speaker 2: could have been happy with eight first half penalties tonight
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  Speaker 2: nine was nine half okay, then they were penalty free
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  Speaker 2: in the second half, then nine for sixty in the
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  Speaker 2: first half to try I think it was eight very late,
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  Speaker 2: and then they got the roughing the passer was the
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  Speaker 2: last winter they got right there, so you know, they
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  Speaker 2: cleaned that up, but they couldn't get anything rolling in
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  Speaker 2: the second half. Same halftime score, by the way, twenty
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  Speaker 2: to six. Both weeks here, Fred, there were some good things.
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  Speaker 2: Amir Abdulla one of those in the first half. He's
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  Speaker 2: had a really good off season here in Jacksonville, and
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  Speaker 2: I feel like he was brought in as kind of
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  Speaker 2: an emergency insurance policy when Chris Rodriguez hurt his foot
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  Speaker 2: when he first got here. Dula goes from basically the
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  Speaker 2: last man in the running back room to right now,
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  Speaker 2: maybe the next man up if la Quinn Allen can't
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  Speaker 2: start the season.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, the thing about a mirror is, you know, he's
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  Speaker 6: a veteran guy who's play a lot of football. He's
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  Speaker 6: been patient, he can get it done. I'm sure he
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  Speaker 6: would love to have that angle route catch back because
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  Speaker 6: that was your, i think, one opportunity to put seven
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  Speaker 6: on the board, one where he dropped in the side
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  Speaker 6: pocket early in the game. But again, that room is crowded.
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  Speaker 6: But these guys are going to compete and that's what
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  Speaker 6: the team needs to see.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, we've got Kay Stevens with Josh Cameron rookie
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  Speaker 2: wide receivers, So Kai take it away, Josh had.
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  Speaker 8: A couple of big catches there. What did it feel
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  Speaker 8: like to, I mean, come out in front of these
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  Speaker 8: Jags fans and finally get on the football field in
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  Speaker 8: an NFL game here?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it felt amazing, like you said, for kind
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  Speaker 7: of first time in the stadium, getting a chance to
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  Speaker 7: through the atmosphere, get the lay of the land, so
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  Speaker 7: to speak. And so at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 7: you're just out there to make the most of your opportunities.
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  Speaker 7: So each and every play that's what I try to do.
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  Speaker 7: And then when the balls in the air, it's my
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  Speaker 7: ball and nobody's ball. So, like you said, getting getting
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  Speaker 7: to be out in the fans for the first time
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  Speaker 7: was some feeling.
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  Speaker 8: From our perspective, watching training camp feels like you're making
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  Speaker 8: a crazy catch every single day. Do you feel like
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  Speaker 8: that's what you can bring to this roster is being
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  Speaker 8: able to go up and get the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.
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  Speaker 7: I think that was one of my selling points coming
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  Speaker 7: into the draft process in itself, and so going back
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  Speaker 7: to just opportunity when the ball's in the air, making
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  Speaker 7: the most of my opportunity. And that's something I'm trying
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  Speaker 7: to bring to this organization, bring to this offense at energy,
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  Speaker 7: just that being that difference making for sure.
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  Speaker 8: There's a lot of veteran guys in that room. What
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  Speaker 8: have you learned from working with them just the past
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  Speaker 8: couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt.
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  Speaker 7: Guys like Parker, you got BT, you got co all
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  Speaker 7: those guys just have a wealth and knowledge and they're
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  Speaker 7: always just willing to share whenever they see something in practice,
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  Speaker 7: when they see something in the game. Even these games
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  Speaker 7: when I'm on the sideline, they're just giving me different.
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  Speaker 5: Tips and tricks. So really just learning how to be
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  Speaker 5: a pro.
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  Speaker 7: And how to just kind of slow the game back
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  Speaker 7: down and just remember that you're here for a reason.
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  Speaker 7: That's something that cob have really just kind of been
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  Speaker 7: hitting me on with me, just like take the breasts
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  Speaker 7: that you're gonna be fine. You have all the tools
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  Speaker 7: necessary to be up there and go out there and succeed.
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  Speaker 5: So that's what they've been teaching me.
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  Speaker 8: I saw your mom tweet that she was coming to
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  Speaker 8: the game today. I know your family's super special to you,
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  Speaker 8: But what's this process been like sharing with them? Going
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  Speaker 8: from drafted and now here.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, this process has been amazing.
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  Speaker 7: I was actually able to during the same hotel, so
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  Speaker 7: I was able to kind of hang out with them
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  Speaker 7: for a little bit before the game. So really just
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  Speaker 7: having that support, knowing that they're always going to have
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  Speaker 7: my back no matter what the outcome is of the
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  Speaker 7: game means everything to me. They were coming to all
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  Speaker 7: my high school games, my college games, and now it's
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  Speaker 7: all my NFL games. So really just having them there
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  Speaker 7: knowing that they have my bag, it's everything.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Josh, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: All right, there you go. That was Kai Stevens with
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  Speaker 2: Josh Cameron in the ever Bank Vault. Ever Bank advantage
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  Speaker 2: welcome to Jacksonville, missus Cameron. All right, folks, thirty four
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  Speaker 2: to seventeen. When we come back, Kayle Stevens will have
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  Speaker 2: the first word with head which Liam Cohen. This is
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  Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars team fowles today thirty four to seventeen to
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  Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers Kay Stevens with Liam Cohen coming up
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  Speaker 2: momentarily here. Today's game presented by Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster, the official
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  Speaker 2: ticket marketplace of your Jacksonville Jaguars. Freddy t we heard
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  Speaker 2: Kai talking to Josh Cameron. I saw the tweet today.
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  Speaker 2: You may have as well. His mom was all excited
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  Speaker 2: in the airport going to see my boy make his
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  Speaker 2: NFL home debut. Do you remember your first preseason game
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  Speaker 2: here in Jacksonville?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I Doang Who do we play? Was it was? It?
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  Speaker 5: Was it the Panthers. I'm trying to go back.
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  Speaker 6: I remember my last preseason game, gotcha the first one.
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  Speaker 6: Try to not remember the first three at all. I talked,
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  Speaker 6: we was selly earlier. Today we kind of recap that
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  Speaker 6: I didn't have a great preseason for whatever reasons. But
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  Speaker 6: I got it around the fourth preseason.
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  Speaker 5: It was Dallas. I remember that one.
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  Speaker 2: I think your timetable worked out just fine. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have Kay Stevens with Liam Cohen here in a moment.
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  Speaker 2: The head Coach Interview presented by g EHA Government Employees
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  Speaker 2: in a moment, we'll head down to the locker room
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  Speaker 2: and get the first word with the head coach. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's always something, coach Duffner, that you can
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  Speaker 2: pull out of these things that we talked about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: going from nine penalties in the first half to none
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  Speaker 2: in the second half, they got behind, they didn't find
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  Speaker 2: that offensive rhythm until late like they did last week,
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  Speaker 2: but they found a little something that looked like with
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  Speaker 2: Joey Agilo.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I was most impressed with him again
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  Speaker 4: when you look at him right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, hold that dog. Sorry about that. As we got
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  Speaker 2: William Cohen standing by with Kai Stevens, Kai.
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  Speaker 8: Coach, no second half comeback this time, I'm sure a
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  Speaker 8: little bit frustrated. What was the message the team after?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just self inflicted.
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  Speaker 9: Right, It's hard enough to be another opponent, and when
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  Speaker 9: you have nine penalties to their five and you have
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  Speaker 9: two turnovers, that's not typically gonna get you a dub
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  Speaker 9: and it's hard to win that way. And so the
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  Speaker 9: message to the guys was, hey, guys, it was great
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  Speaker 9: to see the response and the joint specifically and the
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  Speaker 9: physicality and the energy and the juice, and that was great,
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  Speaker 9: but like we have to carry over that physicality, energy
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  Speaker 9: and juice and also play fundamentally sharp football and play
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  Speaker 9: cleaner and right off the bat on the first drive
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  Speaker 9: of the game, we get a DBI right on the
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  Speaker 9: first drive of the game, and so we're in great
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  Speaker 9: position to make the play and we just lose it.
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  Speaker 3: So that was the message was at some.
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  Speaker 9: Point as a team, like I don't want to start
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  Speaker 9: running these guys for penalties and having to go through that,
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  Speaker 9: So like, are we going to take this on and
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  Speaker 9: take it seriously to improve our fundamentals and technique and
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  Speaker 9: be able to still play hard.
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  Speaker 3: And find you know, violent. That's that was the message.
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  Speaker 8: You got two opportunities this week and two joint practices
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  Speaker 8: with the Bucks. I imagine you'll go over the film
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  Speaker 8: and talk to him about it, but hoping to see
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  Speaker 8: that response in those those joint practices.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, look, a lot of guys playing tonight
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  Speaker 9: that you know, just you know, get have gotten very
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  Speaker 9: limited reps and in a lot of ways, but not
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  Speaker 9: an excuse of reality, and and we're all responsible for it.
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  Speaker 9: And that was kind of my message to the older
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  Speaker 9: guys tonight was, Hey, guys, you guys have to help
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  Speaker 9: these guys out right, like you've got to help some
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  Speaker 9: of these younger players understand how important it is that
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  Speaker 9: the fundamentals and techniques and the cadence and the communication,
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  Speaker 9: how important that is when you get into a game
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  Speaker 9: and you're playing against pros, right like, everybody's good. And
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  Speaker 9: so that was the disappointing part was that it wasn't
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  Speaker 9: as energy, you know, energized and juiced, and it wasn't
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  Speaker 9: as clean, and that kind of compounded a little bit.
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  Speaker 8: I still had Grant calling calls. I know, he called
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  Speaker 8: one last week you hadn't seen before. Have your assess
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  Speaker 8: it this time. Did he surprised? Yet?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 3: He did some good.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, you know, if you look at the quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 9: I thought we're efficient. You know, we were trying to
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  Speaker 9: it was tough with we had six offensive linement that
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  Speaker 9: were able bodied to go tonight, and then we went
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  Speaker 9: down to five and so you're you're also you're trying
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  Speaker 9: to establish a run game, but we also didn't want
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  Speaker 9: to run it too much to put our old line
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  Speaker 9: at risk of you know, injury, and so now you're
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  Speaker 9: probably throwing it a little bit more than you'd like
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  Speaker 9: to know, when you have two turnovers, one was in
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  Speaker 9: the red zone or not in the red zone on
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  Speaker 9: the plus side of the fifty, and you had momentum
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  Speaker 9: right out of the half and we drop a touchdown
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  Speaker 9: pass going in the score, Like I thought, he actually
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  Speaker 9: called a pretty good game and had some good calls,
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  Speaker 9: and you know, we got to execute better.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, are Abdul a little bit of a bright
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  Speaker 8: spot for you at I've got a crowded room there,
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  Speaker 8: you like ping from all the running backs?
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely, I thought obviously last week with Jamari and DJ
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  Speaker 9: getting more of the load and then tonight getting a
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  Speaker 9: mirror more of the load and getting Jamari in DJ
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  Speaker 9: more work, it was good to see. Really thought a
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  Speaker 9: Mer stood out as probably the best player on the
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  Speaker 9: field in those moments, right, It was kind of clear
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  Speaker 9: to everybody probably, which was.
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  Speaker 3: Great to see.
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  Speaker 9: And so with a Quinn being out right now, in
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  Speaker 9: the short term, we need somebody to step up, and
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  Speaker 9: we need that person who steps up, like, yeah, they
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  Speaker 9: might run it.
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  Speaker 3: Well and catch it well, but we need them to
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  Speaker 3: protect well. And that's a big part of this.
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  Speaker 8: All right, coach, thank you for you this week.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Coach Liam Cohen presented by g E H Coached Up.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get back to thoughts on Joey Aglar in a second.
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  Speaker 2: I want you to reflect on something we just heard
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  Speaker 2: from Liam Cohen. You've been a coach in these preseason
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  Speaker 2: situations where your roster is not fifty three, it's ninety
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  Speaker 2: and he wants that consistency and that attitude and that
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  Speaker 2: focus to filter down to the last guy on the roster.
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  Speaker 2: And I totally understand that. But how difficult is that
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  Speaker 2: to do? How much of a challenge is that in
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  Speaker 2: that month or so before the regular season starts, when
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  Speaker 2: you're working with a lot of guys, some of whom
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  Speaker 2: won't even be in the National Football League in a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Getting opportunities and really quality opportunities to show what they
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  Speaker 4: can do and prove that they belong to this team
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  Speaker 4: right now. They got to take advantage of that. And
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  Speaker 4: as he said, I mean the intensity, the effort to juice,
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  Speaker 4: the execution that they displayed in the joint practice. Again,
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  Speaker 4: that's got to be who we are. That's got to consistency,
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  Speaker 4: whether it is by the unit, by the team, by individuals,
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  Speaker 4: that's got to show up. So I'm with them, right
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  Speaker 4: now they've got to consistently play the type of ball
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  Speaker 4: he wants fundamentally sound, physically and mentally tough and be
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  Speaker 4: a team that people are fear. And that's got to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, didn't get it done tonight, at least
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  Speaker 2: on the scoreboard, thirty four to seventeen. We'll pick it
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  Speaker 2: up heart the good and the bad that we saw here,
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  Speaker 2: Coach Mark Duffner, the legend Fred Taylor here with us
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  Speaker 2: on Mike Dempsey. You're listening to Jaguars post game on
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars Radio Network. All right, the Jaguars Broadcast Booth
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  Speaker 2: presented by Heritage of North Florida, Jacksonville's premiere roofing and
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  Speaker 2: remodeling company, Bring home the w There you go. What's
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  Speaker 2: the Jags unable to do that today? Falling thirty four
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  Speaker 2: to seventeen to the Carolina Panthers. Coach Liam Cohen stepped
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  Speaker 2: all over you when you're talking about Joey Aguilar there
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  Speaker 2: a minute ago. You were this kind of expressed with
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  Speaker 2: what you saw out of this guy who's now ten
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  Speaker 2: out of eleven for over one hundred and sixty yards
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  Speaker 2: and a touchdown. Obviously has a connection with Trevor Payne.
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  Speaker 2: Yet that happened. Sometimes the third fourth string quarterback, whatever
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  Speaker 2: the case may be, works with guys further down the
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  Speaker 2: depth chart and they get in the preseason and the
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  Speaker 2: chemistry can show.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. I've been very impressed with him. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he was confident, was changing plays at the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 4: The command of the offense was excellent. And I'm telling
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  Speaker 4: you right now again as you just mentioned his status,
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  Speaker 4: he was nine for ten for one hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 4: yards in a touchdown in this game. And I don't
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  Speaker 4: know that he's completed a pass of less than fifteen yards.
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  Speaker 4: All the passes he's thrown have been explosive type plays.
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  Speaker 4: So the connection he's got with Payna, the confidence he's
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  Speaker 4: doing in terms of running the offense has been excellent.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, Liam Cohne has rank, it's called Rancaster's privilege,
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  Speaker 4: and when he speaks, I'll definitely quite down.
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  Speaker 2: We all will. Freddy you got rank here as well.
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  Speaker 2: But when you look at this quarterback room behind Trevor
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  Speaker 2: Lawrence right this week, Liam Cohen expressed trust in Nick Mullens,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, statistically he was pretty good tonight. In
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  Speaker 2: the premiere, Abdula catches that ball. I think then you're
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  Speaker 2: looking at a seven for seven passing game, so he's
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  Speaker 2: likely the backup. But when you're looking at these other
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: two guys, Carter Bradley looks like he's got a pretty
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: live arm. Joey Aglar's raw, big guy, but I mean
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: all he's done is perform in the opportunities he's had.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Who's a bigger priority for you to keep on the
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: practice squad at this point?
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  Speaker 6: I think right now, obviously Nick seems to be the
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: lead for backup, and you mentioned Mike that drop pass
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: by mirror, otherwise he would have had a perfect night.
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: But just looking at things and kind of replaying the game,
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: as Duff said, Joey, he was outstanding.
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  Speaker 5: As a young guy.
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: He showed a lot of poise, a lot of control,
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: The targets were there. He saw a lot of accuracy,
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: so a lot of command.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: And he and here and.
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: Coach Coleen speak a week ago. He said, I want
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: my quarterbacks to show command, especially Trevor obviously, but if
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: you have command and communication, you're pretty much progressing throughout
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: the preseason. Carter Bradley, he had one overthrow to long
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: right there in the back of the end zone, which
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: would have given him an opportunity. So this argument would
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: be different if they make that connection. But all of
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: those plays count, man, and the coaches will look at it,
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: and I think at the very end of the day,
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: what coaches are most impressed by, what evaluators and scouts
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: are most impressed by seeing these guys not flinch. They
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: come out and they continue to play, and they just
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: put it on film and it'll sort itself out whether
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: it's here in Jacksonville or somewhere else. But you give
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: yourself an opportunity to kind of hide players throughout the
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: course of the year based on their performance. So it's
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: great to have options at that position because you never
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: know what's gonna happen throughout the course of the season.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: He did miss the one the Carter Bradley that could
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: have been a touchdown to the back of the end zone.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Coach with the one that bothers me, And I'm sure
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: when they look at the film, he'll know it. He
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: probably knew it right away. He's rolling right and decides
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: to kind of fling one across his body back across
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: the middle and gets it picked off. I mean, even
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I know that he can't throw late back across the
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: but I didn't think it was that late in the play.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: But I just think it was coach a bad decision.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was trying to extend the play and make
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: a big play. Like you said, he threw it across
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: his body. Of course they picked it off and so again,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: so you know, those are things we've got to correct
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: and he's learning from that. He's a bright guy. He's
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: very studious. He's very competitive and so very accountable too.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: So he'll learn from that and take that and get better.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: And we look at as you know, he said a
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Mira Abdulla, as Liam Cohen alluded to, you know, he
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: kind of popped as the best guy in the field
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: when he was in there, Freddy, and you know, could
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: have helped himself with that touchdown catch. But this, again,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: this is something we've seen all off season from him.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: He's looked much younger than his biological age would indicate. Yeah,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: and I think it's it's the veteran presence, like the
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: key to playing on third down, you know, this is
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: don't get your quarterback hit right, I mean, as much
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: as anything. And I think he is probably the most
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: trusted pass protector and past catcher in third down situations.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: If Laquent is not ready to.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: Start to just to echo a bit of what Liam
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: said in his interview with Kai was protection these guys,
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: especially young backs. You see the young back struggle with
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: pass protection. That's sort of what separates him. Especially nowadays
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: you have fifty plus million dollars quarterback bags that you
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: have to protect. But Amir, Amir, he has twelve twelve
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: years experience, I believe, so he's a savvy vet. He
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: gets it. He doesn't have a ton of wear and
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: tear on his body. He's been, you know, splitting roles
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: throughout the course of his entire career.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: But the quicks are there.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: Six carries forty five yards seven point five per along
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: of twenty three and then a few catches to go
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: with that to thirty seven three for thirty seven. So
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: in terms of production, he did not hurt himself completely.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: We like to see him secure that angle route and
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: score right there. To me, even make Nick Mullins look
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: pretty good and his debut and his performance.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: But what you can't do is hurt yourself.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: DJ Dallas ball on the ground, losing the fumble again,
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: me saying that this thing can sort itself out when
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: you make those sort of players are lack thereof make
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: the coach's decision easy. So it's on film. DJ has
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: to try and find a way to bounce back. But
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: clearly Emir gave himself the most opportunity to be in
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: that room when the regular season starts.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'll tell you that
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: twenty three yard warning he had, jeezus Pete shook the
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: defense like that. I mean he was. It was explosive
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: and wow. And then two of those catches were eighteen
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: yards and eleven yards, So he has bit big play production.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: As far as contribution to the game.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: We got a couple of other standouts I want to
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: focus in on when we come back in a moment,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: including Trevor Payana, and I want to see what you
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: guys saw from some of the young pass rushers looking
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: to make an impact on this football team as well.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: They got some pressure early on. Bryce Young got pressured
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: on three of his six dropbacks in the initial part
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: of the football game. Jack's fault of Carolina Panthers thirty
• 20:44
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• 20:47
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• 21:13
  Speaker 2: a few other standouts here, and obviously Fred is talking
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: with coach Duffle. Minute ago, Joey Aglars got some chemistry
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: with Trevor Payne, right, he came in, hit him on
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the forty three yarders down in the two last week,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: found him four times tonight for good yardage. And I mean, Panya,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: is he a guy when you look at him, that
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: you think could eventually develop into a fifty three man
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: roster guy. I don't think he has a chance to
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: make it right now if everyone's healthy. That's presuming everyone's healthy.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: But what have you seen from him?
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: Just a guy that's hungry.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: You know, he's he's in a room of quite naturally
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: a lot of playmakers, you know, And I think what
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: he's gonna learn from those guys just naturally competing much
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: like any other rookie, kind of just trying to find
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: his way, and as long as he runs krispy routes,
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: as long as he has the connection with the quarterbacks,
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: they want to know how fast of a learner he is.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Like there's a lot that goes into it. He hasn't
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: seen a ton of BITZ packages that's going to require
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: him to make adjustments from routes and hot sites, all
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: these different things. So it's still some ways to go,
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: and that's sort of what separates those guys. Obviously, you
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: have to be reliable in terms of catching the ball,
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: but are you going to be able to communicating be
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: on the same page with the quarterback, not just in preseason,
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: but when things kind of crank up a little bit here.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: So I guess.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: They're still going to watch him and just see how
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: he continues to develop. But it's still early, still preseason,
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: but they do want to know that he knows his
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: playbook well, how often he communicates well with the quarterbacks,
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: and if he's a playmaker at the end of the day.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: And he has made plays and coach last week, he
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: of course had the drop right could have had the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: touchdown with cornon Bradley, But I think that almost now
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: works in his favor because you know, he could have
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: been Oh man, how many opportunities am I going to get?
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: He came back with the forty three yarders set up
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: when he touched down any of the night he had tonight.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike, what you just said, he responded, he dropped
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: that ball. He came back, made the big ball to
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: get us in position to win that game. And then
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: tonight he has four catches for seventy two yards. I
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: think a twenty nine yard for the long one, but
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: the first one that Joey threw to him plus twenty one,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: So explosive passes. He's coming back and playing consistent ball,
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: So taking advantage of the opportunity with big plays.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: All right, No official sacks for the Jaguars defense tonight.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Bj Green almost had one of the very first play
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: from scrimmage, got his hands on Bryce Young able to escape.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: What you see there going.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Well, I thought he did a good job in Combs.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: He Branson Combs early got a great hit on the
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: quarterback in that first drive. So linebacker pressure edge pressure
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: showed up early in the thing again. I was disappointed
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: we didn't get any sex, we didn't get any tackles
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: for lost and part of that's now we just got
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: to can continue the attacking attitude the coach Campanili's and
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: spelling and instilling these guys.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Freddie, you have the BJ Green, Danny Strigo. You got
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: the rookies like Williams and Durfy and Brian Thomas with
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: a Y, and you know the undrafted guy have throughout
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: the course of the off season. I think bj Green
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: has kind of established himself as the next man behind
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Trayvon and Josh heinz Allen. But who if anyone out
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: of that group has caught your eye.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: You know, obviously you said Brian Thomas with the Why Yeah,
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: I mean because I know that Brian Tummas on the
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: other side and it will be something to have to
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: Brian Thomas's on the team. So I'll just go with
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Brian Tummas. Just just looking at how we played it
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: last week and then this week coming back. The Tony
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: loves him, If that's okay to say.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's fair. I think the Jags organization is
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: very happy.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: So they got again, you know, after having coach Cohen
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: on on our podcast. One thing that stood out to
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: me was he said a consistency is the truest measure
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: of performance. You know, you can be this way one
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: week and that way one week, but as long as
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: you have the same motor and energy on film and
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: throughout these practices every rep, if you treat it the same,
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: it's bigger than making because you're not going to make
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: a play every single game. But if that energy, that
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: the passion and the desire is there and coaches fall
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: in love with that, they know you're influence in the
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: game some way, somehow, then you give yourself an opportunity.
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: And for these young guys, it's about that more than
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: it is about statistics.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: Stats are cool.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: We get the kind of glory in and talk about it,
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: but we don't see each and every single snap, correct,
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: Like we're just radio guys, right, So I mean, but
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: the guys who it matters most to, and that's the
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: evaluator to the front office, they get a chance to
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: really see it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: But you have to be consistent.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Well. Backing up what you said on the front office too,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: when you look at bj Green, Danny Strego, Brian Thomas
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: for the why all college free agents not drafted, and
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: these guys are competing mightily to make the team. Striggle
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: and Green played last year, you know, got great participation
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: and certainly are establishing themselves again to make this team going.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: I think that it's phenomenals excellent. So then you had
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Dorphy and Wesley Williams last week showed up and was
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: the presence in the past game, a pass rush game.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: So again it's still a heated competition at that spot.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: All right, he is Mark Duffer a well with Fred
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Taylor on Mike Dempse. You're listening to Jaguars postgame here
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: as they fall thirty four to seventeen to the Carolina Panthers.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Coming up next, final stats. This is Jaguars post Game
• 26:38
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• 26:53
  Speaker 2: let's get an Everbank's stats check on the contest tonight.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: We've gone over some of the individuals superlatives, but it
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: bears repeating. For Joey Aguilar nine out of ten for
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty yards and a touchdown, a quarterback
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: passer rating of one fifty two point one. Nick Mullins
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: was solid six to seven and that seventh one was
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: a drop by a Mira Abdullah that would have been
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: a touchdown, so it would have been about seven to
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: seven for seventy five yards into TV as it was
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: one hundred and five point four quarterback rating. Carter Bradley
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: struggled a little bit tonight six to thirteen, did throw
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: an interception and a passer rating under twenty five. A
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Mira Abdullah six carries for forty five yards, averaging seven
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: point five of pop very Fred Taylor esk right there.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: DJ Dallas at eight for twenty seven, but he also
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: lost the fumble in this game. Trevor Paannia four for
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: seventy two receiving, Josh Cameron had two for forty one.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Michael wortham who's a nice player and again just facing
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: a stack deck at wide receiver, unlikely to have a chance,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: you know, practice squad guy potentially, but he caught three
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: for forty one tonight, and Abdullah had three for thirty seven.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Coming out of the backfield. Amari Bernie led the way
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: with five solo stop six total tackles for the Jaguars,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: who did not have a sack tonight. Tackles for loss
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: officially credited Balen Specter and Jalen Hunt. Hunt also had
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: that late roughing the passer in the first half, so
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: not a good moment there. Yusirab Dula did get another
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: quarterback hit tonight, as did Williams and Preston Hodge. They
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: were all credited with QB hits team wise guys. Interestingly enough,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: the Jags and Panthers through for exactly the same yardage
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty eight yards. But here's the big issue.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: The Jags allowed one to forty seven on the ground
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: only ran for eighty themselves. Coach take it from the
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: defense's point of view, right, Anthony Campanelli, not gonna be happy.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Even though it's you know, it's backups. It's more an
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: organizational tone you're trying to set. That's job number one.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Got to stop the run.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. That was not up to the standard that the
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Jaguars have established being the number one or run defense
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: in the league. I mean, cheez. We struggled in the
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: first half. We even struggled in the second half. Hundred
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: four forty seven yards five point three average. Not up
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: to our standard. Actually, no takeaways, no sacks, no tackles
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: for loss. So you know he'll he'll get the message
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: across those guys. We even struggled sudden change. When we
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: had sudden change, we gave up a touchdown and gave
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: up a field goal. That's when the defense has got
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: to go. What I mean by sudden change, the offense
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: turns the ball over. Now the defense has got to
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: get out on the field and put the fire out,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: and they struggled doing that tonight. So yeah, they're going
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: to get a good teaching opportunity and learning learning moment
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: if you will, from coach Campanili and the defensive staff,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: and they'll respond. He'll come back. But that standard of
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: defense that's been pretty pretty dog one good was not
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: reached tonight.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: And from the offensive standpoint of the run game last week,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Jamy Taylor, you know, not super efficient, but he got
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: the job done. He carried the load. I thought Amy
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: of Dula was very good tonight carrying the ball. And
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: like DJ Dallas is not going to be up in
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the regular season with Bagel two n Chris Rodriguez and
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: hopefully Luquinn Allen gets healthy early. How good do you
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: think this Jack running back room can be.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: I think they're gonna be as good as the guys
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: up front. Obviously.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: You know, if they can get the play call into
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: a comfortable sixty forty run pass type situation, then that
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: means the run game is is pretty good. So in
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: my conversation with Basebel, it's he clearly should be the guy,
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: and I say should with an asterisk beside it.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: I think he has the most gifts overall, and he
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: has the one thing that you can't accunt that speed.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: You just can't coach that, right, but sometimes he goes
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: too fast. Right, the urgency is there, but you can
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: trip over yourself and you can lose. Yeah, So you
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: got a tempo that that that's the key, and that's
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: sort of when I speak to him, I just remind
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: you you got everything. When you see it, you gotta go,
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: but just slow it, slow it down a bit. But again,
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: the key is going to be how well they mesh
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: with the with the guys up front, and that's going
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: to be just repetition throughout the course of this preseason.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: So I would like to see that group play more together,
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: whether it be in a gamelight environment or whether it
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: be you know, in a high intensity situations, in those
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: joint practices, I think you can develop some sort of
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: chemistry throughout that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: But everybody has to show up.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: You know, you can't just show up just simply because
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: of the game that you have to show up even
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: on the practice field, because if I'm gonna give you
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: this time off on game night like tonight, I need
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: to know that you're all in in these joint practices.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: Otherwise I gotta play you because I gotta see it
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: and that if that were me as the coach, this
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: is what I need of you.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Well, he's got two opportunities, William Cohen does to see
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: these guys perform. Tuesday and Wednesday we schedule for joint
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: practices with the Bucks, and we're not gonna see any
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: of the starters on next Friday night's game against Tampa Bay.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: So hopefully he gets that work accomplished or off the
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: course of the week. Coming up next, folks, Jaguar Radio
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  Speaker 2: Network Player of the Game vote, who gets the vote
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  Speaker 2: and a half? Tonight right this the legend Gush the
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  Speaker 2: Paanter's knocked off the Jaguars thirty four to seventeen. This
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  Speaker 2: is Jaguars post game on Jaguars Radio. Jaguars Post Game
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  Speaker 2: Benefits for federal employees and retirees, Mike Dempsey, Mark Duftner,
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  Speaker 2: Fred Taylor from the Hyundai Studios. You know, the twenty
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  Speaker 2: something year old in me in the mid nineties, didn't
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  Speaker 2: think I'd be uttering those words at any point. But
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  Speaker 2: happy to be here with these guys. Jaguars Radio Network
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  Speaker 2: Player of the Game voting Coach Duffner got his initiation
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  Speaker 2: last week. Freddy, he played the Fred Taylor role.
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  Speaker 4: Couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: As we established many years ago, I will get a
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  Speaker 2: vote tonight. Coach duff will get a vote tonight, and
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Freddy t will get a vote and a half to
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  Speaker 2: break any possible ties.
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  Speaker 5: In case it's a three way split, that's all right,
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  Speaker 5: I'll take you.
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  Speaker 2: I think you should taken absolutely saw. Who is your
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  Speaker 2: Player of the Game candidate?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I don't mean to be jumping on this bandwagon
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  Speaker 4: for this guy, but I think I'm gonna go with
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  Speaker 4: Joey Aguilar. I mean, he's nine for ten, he's has
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty yards, he has a touchdown. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I just saw again a confident leader, great leadership, great command,
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  Speaker 4: checking off. I mean just really and then when you
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  Speaker 4: look how big he is in legs that he's got,
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  Speaker 4: he's going to get people trouble, I think as he
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  Speaker 4: just continues to get reps and learn how to execute consistently.
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  Speaker 4: This guy I'd love to have him. I can tell
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  Speaker 4: you that right now. I think he made a great
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  Speaker 4: decision coming here to the Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So a vote for Joey Aglar. Now at halftime,
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  Speaker 2: I thought, oh, this is going to be easy. It's
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: going to be a mirror duel. But in the big
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  Speaker 2: sum total of things he did at the drop at
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  Speaker 2: the goal line, And because I don't want to box
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  Speaker 2: Fred's vote out here, I'm gonna go with Trevor Payne
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to say four catches for seventy two yards.
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  Speaker 2: And he hit pay dirt with a score there. So
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  Speaker 2: he was the other half of that connection and he
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: picked up where he left off with the big play
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  Speaker 2: from last week. So I will cast my vote for
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  Speaker 2: Trevor Pania and put the ball in the court of
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  Speaker 2: one Fred Taylor.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 6: So we were splitting hairs right there with Penia and
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  Speaker 6: Aguilar I'm gonna go. I'm gonna follow coach Duff. You know,
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  Speaker 6: I just think young quarterback, you know, standing there, and
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  Speaker 6: just how poised he looked throughout the course of the game.
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  Speaker 6: It's hard to turn your eyes on nine for ten.
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  Speaker 6: Although I saw what Nick Mullins did and he should
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  Speaker 6: have been perfect, right, probably a perfect QB rating there.
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  Speaker 6: If Abdul makes that catch and scores a touchdown, which
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  Speaker 6: I thought was a walk in, still it didn't happen.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go and follow Coach Duff, and I
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  Speaker 6: guess make it a clean sweet, well not a clean sweet.
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  Speaker 2: But I've heard at it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, vote, yeah, that's good.
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  Speaker 2: Drama in the fourth quarter tonight.
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  Speaker 5: Create a little bits preseason game, not a lot of drama.
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  Speaker 2: We're not in regular season. Yeah, all right, that's fine,
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  Speaker 2: all right, We're gonna forget this one in three weeks. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: there you go. So Joey Aglar, congratulations, he's your Jaguar
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  Speaker 2: from the Hyundai Studios, and time now for the injury
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Report presented by UF Health, the official healthcare partner of
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Not really a major injury game for
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the Jags. Jabar Mohamma got a little help off the field,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: but he came back in. Liam Cohen mentioned they started
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: with six offensive woman that they wanted to play, ended
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: with five. Don't know who got nicked up there, but
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: it wasn't one of the guys who really expected to
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: have a chance to make this team. They had pregnant
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: and monheimen uniform tonight, but only break glass in case
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: of emergency type things. So fortunately they didn't have that, Freddy.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: The big news this week is Covan Lannon is off
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  Speaker 2: the pup list right now. Here's a guy that after
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: only a handful of starts, they determined was worthy of
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: a three year fifty one million dollar extension. There's no
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: question this guy is when fully up to speed factoring
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: in as a starter on this offensive line. Question is
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: in your mind, is Anton Harrison now the full time
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: left tackle? Has he made that move permanent? And is
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: cole Van Lannon automatically the right tackle or could he
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: be competing for the right guard spot too.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I think at the very end of it, Oh, Mike,
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: you want consistency, right, You want the chemistry. You want
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: these guys out there so they can sort of get
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: comfortable in their role wherever they end up when the
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: season start. You want I'm all available week one more
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  Speaker 6: than anything, but you want to see them together from
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  Speaker 6: a communication standpoint, in building that chemistry and getting familiar
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  Speaker 6: with hearing Trevor and just knowing whether it going to
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  Speaker 6: be so I'm glad I don't have to make that decision.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: But the good thing is to have guys that can
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  Speaker 6: play multiple positions across the board. Last I checked, the
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  Speaker 6: NFL is about coaching. You know this, the more you
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: can do right if we can have an offensive line,
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  Speaker 6: because injuries will happen at whatever point throughout the course
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: of the season, You're going to have to shuffle the deck.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: So now is the time if you're going to do
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: this shuffling and guy's going to be whether you consider
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: out of position or trying new things. Now it's the
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: time to sort of familiarize yourself with what they are
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: capable of doing. So as the season goes, it helps
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: you in the transaction department because it's very rare that
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  Speaker 6: these guys are going to play the entirety of the
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: entire season. So if you have to bring a guy in,
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: if you look at the just recent the back surgery
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: with Parker McCarry, so now you have to explore who's
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: out there, who can we trade for, who can we
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  Speaker 6: go and you know, pick up out of this pool
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: of free agents and what have you. So again you
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  Speaker 6: want to have those options. And I think the coaching
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  Speaker 6: staff is confidence knowing that they have some really talented
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  Speaker 6: guys that can play multiple positions.
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  Speaker 2: And coach, we haven't gotten any kind of official word
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  Speaker 2: on this. This is kind of speculating. When the timing of it,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: when you find out McCarey had a back procedure and then
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: they go out and trade a six round pick for
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Daniel follow who you got to figure you give up
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: a pick that close to the season, that guy's going
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: to be on the fifty three, right. So I think
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of people feel, and again this is unofficial,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: nobody's told us this, but a lot of people feel
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  Speaker 2: that McCarry probably starts the season on injured reserve and
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: at minimum is going to miss the first month of
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  Speaker 2: the year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's probably accurate, Mike. And what I
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: really like it was what Fred alluded to. This coaching
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: staff is not afraid to mix and develop position flex
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: in the offensive line, the cross training they did it
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: early on. You mentioned again whether chance to Harrison, who
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: I think right now really is going to be a
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: heck of a left tackle, young guy twenty four years old,
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: I think, and I think, get that shuttle, get him
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  Speaker 4: to lock that position down. But I love the versatility
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  Speaker 4: edition team demonstrated last season, moving players around from tackle
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  Speaker 4: to garden whatever, you know, so you don't have those
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  Speaker 4: scary moments. What are we going to do now? There's
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  Speaker 4: none of that. This group understands how to train and
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  Speaker 4: get depth developed.
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  Speaker 2: Mannheim has worked at both center and guard. Milem's worked
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: at Garden tackle, Walker Little's worked at garden tackle. Ezra
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Cleveland's worked on both sides in the center, so they
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: are leaning into that foreshore. All right, We've got one
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  Speaker 2: final segment to go here, and when we come back,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: we'll take a look at what's on tap for the Jags.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: In the final week of the preseason, they fall to
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  Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers tonight. Panthers win at thirty four to
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  Speaker 2: seventeen over the Jacksonville Jaguars. This is Jaguars post Game
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  Speaker 2: on the Jaguars Radio Network. All right, Jaguars post Game,
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  Speaker 2: for federal employees and retirees. Mike Dempsey, marked Ufner, Freddie
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: t from the Hyundai Studios, and guys, it didn't go
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  Speaker 2: the way that Liam Cohen wanted it. On the scoreboard.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about some of the highlights of standouts. The
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: reality is a lot of the guys we saw play
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: in a Jaguar uniform tonight, their best hope is to
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: get on the practice squad and continue their NFL career,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: or maybe get on some of the other else's practice
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: squad and continue it. So this week we got the
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Bucks coming in Fred Tuesday and Wednesday as
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: it's scheduled right now, we'll both be joined practices as
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: long as maybe there's not like fifty fights on Tuesday. Yeah,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: and they don't cancel Wednesday. But what are you hoping
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: to hear about or see in this work that they
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: get done with the bucks.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: The first thing I'm hoping to hear is that we
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: are able. We made it out of camp, we made
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  Speaker 6: it to week one, September thirteen. I just want everybody
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: to be healthy. I want, you know, the entire team
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: to give yourself a fair opportunities opening the season. I
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: think that's the most important thing and that would be
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: my number one priority. I also want to see some
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: some some physicality without losing discipline.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Tonight it was nine nine penalties there.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: I think they sort of slacked their and sort of
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: lost their their discipline in this. They were physical, but
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: you want to be a lot cleaner right in your operations.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: So operations physicality injury free. Tampa is going to have
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: some pressure packages because they want to see what they're
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: able to do in a game like environment. Will the
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: offense the offensive line that we just spoke about, and
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: they're shuffling and moving guys around will we see consistency.
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: Out of that group, right, So we got to see.
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: The chemistry in that group and picking up these different
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: blitz and protecting Trevor even in a joint practice environment.
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: And lastly, I got to see some out of the
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: run game, you know, a few long runs here and there.
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: You know, probably it ain't got to be sexy.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: This Wednesday, so I need to see that build on that.
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: But more importantly, gotta still be turnover free. That new
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: thing is not so new now, but they didn't do
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: it a ton. When I play that punch, Oh yeah,
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: punch sure, protect the football, you know that'll make me happy.
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: And then again, get us the week one. I'll be happy.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Coach for you. I know you've been watching every practice
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I see out there every day. Practically give us a
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: bubble like player that you think needs a big week.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Well I don't. I like, I still am interested in
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: seeing how this defensive end competition is gonna finalize itself.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: I mean again, TJ and BJ Green's established and had
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: a good camp so far, but Danny Strigo, I want
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: to see Wesley Williams durfy. We talked about who's got
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: real good athleticism A lot of guys competing. I like
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: to see that. I'd like to see continued answering of
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Ruc of Roro and Albert Regis. Inside. We're gonna need
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: those guys. Davon Hamilton now is a force in there,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: and Eric Armscern's had a great camp, Dickerson also, but
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: we needed those guys to come on, So I'm anxious
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: to see how they're gonna be. And how's this linebacker
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: thing going to end up between Ventro Miller and Branson Combs.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: So those are the competitions I want to see. And
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: then takeaways. You know, just talked about ball security. You know,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: we've seen him in practice, but in the joint practices
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: in the games, we kind of haven't gotten them yet.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: So I think they're going to come in bunches and
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: this week against this team, physical, fundamental technique. Football is
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: what we're all.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: About, all right, Freddie, what's coming up? Who's the next
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: big guest on the Pivot?
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: The next big guest on the Pivot? Let's see.
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: So we'll be dropping an episode on Tuesday, whatever day.
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: All my days are all over the place, by the way,
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: I've been traveling so much doing his training camp tour,
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Tuesday is the twenty fifth. All right, So we sat
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: down with Jonathan Taylor at Indy and as big of
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: a fan, I am of his running style and what
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: he does on the field to actually get an opportunity.
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: And we text and talked, spoke a few but not
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: extensive conversation in this episode.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: He is so articulate.
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: And then doing my research sort of learning about him,
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: I didn't know he was a track a track, a
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: two time state track champ. That explains these eighty yardists
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: a seventy yards because he's such a long strider. He's
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: gliding and you don't necessarily think he's so fast until
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: you see the separation. But JT is is a great
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: guest for us. We were up in Coke Coke Country.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: We did the entire AFC South this year, which was
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: the first.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: For us, so uh.
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: And I had a few people upset with me from
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: the disease interview. I know that I didn't defend Trevor,
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: but I do love Trevor, and I the fan of
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: me was upset.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I think they want to get a kneecap him or something.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure like that would have played.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: Well two years remove Almos yeah, I mean I can't.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: I can't beat our guests up. You know, the pivot
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: is supposed to be a safe space, understood.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: I let him speak about it, and you know, he
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: was remorseful at least that's what he said. And my
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: job is just to ask questions. That's it. But yeah,
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: so JT will be.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: On the show.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Tune in and we always do big things to come
• 45:22
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• 45:25
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• 45:27
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• 45:30
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• 45:33
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• 45:37
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• 45:41
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