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‘Tech Tuesday’ with Rich DeMuro | Relationships & Your Brain · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 2: Bill Handle here on a Taco Tuesday, October seventh. Some
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  Speaker 2: of the stories we are looking at and there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot going on. Government shutdowns still happening, and we don't
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  Speaker 2: know when it's going to end. Both sides are intransigent
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  Speaker 2: about it. And it's been two years since the war
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  Speaker 2: in Gaza has started, and the talks are actually at
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  Speaker 2: the closest point, and you've got Hamas and the US
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  Speaker 2: and Israel in Cairo negotiating at least the release of
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  Speaker 2: the hostages. It is time for Rich to morrow and
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  Speaker 2: our tech segment Tech Tuesday. Rich is here every Saturday
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  Speaker 2: from eleven am to two pm. He's on KTLA every
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  Speaker 2: day and you can follow on Instagram at Rich on
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  Speaker 2: Tech and his website is rich on Tech dot TV.
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  Speaker 1: And good morning Rich, Good morning to you. Bill.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we are in the middle of pro days at
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  Speaker 2: on the website. And I took advantage yesterday already, yep, yep,
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  Speaker 2: I took advantage yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: This is true. By the way, I'm not this is
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  Speaker 1: not a joke.
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  Speaker 2: I bought a bagel cutter, bagel slicer for sixteen dollars
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  Speaker 2: normally sixteen dollars and seventy four cents. Oh wow, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's impressive. And now I use it this morning. And
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  Speaker 2: here's something about the bagel cutters, not that you know,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm going to give everybody an inside scoop here,
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  Speaker 2: and that is, you can't have real soft bagels because
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  Speaker 2: if you have soft bagels, they sort of crunch. You
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  Speaker 2: need a little bit hard bagels when using a bagel cutter.
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  Speaker 2: But that's neither here nor there. Let's talk about the
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  Speaker 2: big deal days. What are we looking at deal wise?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've been scouring Amazon all morning and the
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  Speaker 3: deals are there. So everyone says, hey, you know, rich,
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  Speaker 3: what should I buy? How should I buy it? My
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  Speaker 3: advice is this, if you need a bagel slicer, go
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  Speaker 3: for it. If you don't, don't be searching Amazon all
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  Speaker 3: day just aimlessly for stuff to spend your money on,
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  Speaker 3: because it's just not going to work out for you.
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  Speaker 3: So again, if you followed my advice before, I always say,
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  Speaker 3: put the stuff you need in your cart. So I
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  Speaker 3: had all my stuff in my cart this morning, and
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  Speaker 3: I looked at it. A lot of the prices dropped,
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  Speaker 3: and so I purchased a bunch of stuff that I
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  Speaker 3: was going to get anyway, and it was on my list.
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  Speaker 3: But it's just stuff that I was watching. So that's
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  Speaker 3: my number one advice. Look for the things that you
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  Speaker 3: need around the house, the stuff you reorder, even if
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  Speaker 3: it's lame, just you know today it's probably on sale,
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  Speaker 3: so go ahead and get it. With that said, I
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  Speaker 3: have been compiling a list of stuff that I would
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  Speaker 3: buy on Prime Day. I put out my website rich
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  Speaker 3: on tech dot TV, and you know, I'm looking at
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  Speaker 3: the electronics. So most of the products that I'm posting
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  Speaker 3: on there, actually all of them are at their lowest
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  Speaker 3: prices ever. Now when I say that, that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 3: they've never been that price before. But Amazon, if you
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  Speaker 3: look at the price history on these products, which every
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  Speaker 3: single one of them, I go through and make sure
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  Speaker 3: I look at the price history, it typically has gone
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  Speaker 3: on sale to the lowest price just one time before,
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  Speaker 3: and that is in July during their previous Prime Day.
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  Speaker 3: So the prices are really good today. Air Pods ninety bucks,
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  Speaker 3: iPad two hundred and eighty dollars, tiny bluetooth speaker from
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  Speaker 3: JBL that I like twenty five dollars, Apple Watch two
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  Speaker 3: hundred and seventy nine dollars, air Tag some of the
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  Speaker 3: lowest prices ever. Right now, let's see what else do
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  Speaker 3: I have here. Belkan's portable charger, lowest price ever, twenty
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  Speaker 3: seven bucks. You gotta have one of those in your
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  Speaker 3: bag so that you can charge your phone on the go.
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  Speaker 3: I've got another. Let's see beach USBC cables. They just
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  Speaker 3: came out with these. They come in great colors. They're
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  Speaker 3: usually nineteen bucks, rare sale on a beach product twelve dollars.
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  Speaker 3: My favorite earbuds under fifty dollars. They usually sell for
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  Speaker 3: seventy three. So forty seven bucks for cheap earbuds is
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  Speaker 3: a great deal. I've got some laptops. People are asking
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  Speaker 3: about laptops. Those are a fantastic deal. We're talking in
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  Speaker 3: a Lenovo for five hundred bucks and HP for five
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  Speaker 3: point fifty. So again, it really comes down to do
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  Speaker 3: you need these things? But if you do, they are
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  Speaker 3: at some of their lowest prices of the season, and
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  Speaker 3: that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So two questions. Question number one, I look
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  Speaker 1: at TVs.
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  Speaker 2: The price of TVs sort of the bell weather of
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  Speaker 2: prices in general, and of course the price of TVs.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can get a what eighty five inch
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  Speaker 2: TV today for six hundred bucks? Has the price of
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  Speaker 2: the Imax TV gone down to under fifty dollars?
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  Speaker 3: Yet TVs keep getting cheaper. But here's the thing. These
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  Speaker 3: manufacturers are smart because what they do is they keep
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  Speaker 3: adding new display technologies. So although you can get a
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  Speaker 3: TV for very cheap, you can go to your best
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  Speaker 3: buy and it's super duper cheap. They are usually using
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  Speaker 3: the older display technologies on those screens. What does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: That screen's not going to be as bright, are not
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  Speaker 3: going to pop as much, You're not going to have
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  Speaker 3: as many viewing angles from the sides. All that really
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  Speaker 3: doesn't matter because a lot of people are upgrading from
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  Speaker 3: an older TV anyway, so everything is going to look better.
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  Speaker 3: But if if you're looking at the high end TVs,
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  Speaker 3: those are going to have the best displays. And right now,
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  Speaker 3: the name of the game is that each individual pixel
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  Speaker 3: is lit by itself, which means colors just look way better.
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  Speaker 3: They can control the brightness and the contrast and all
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  Speaker 3: that good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you bring up you know, when you bring
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  Speaker 2: a TV home, you're not comparing it to other TVs.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I don't buy expensive TVs. I
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  Speaker 2: sort of buy middle of the road TVs. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to spend two thousand dollars for sixty five inch TV,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to spend two hundred dollars for it.
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  Speaker 2: But in reality, you go home and you sort of
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  Speaker 2: that's your TV. I mean, you're you're not comparing TV
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  Speaker 2: to TV. So that's that's one. The other thing is,
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  Speaker 2: as I'm joking about the Imax TVs, have those big,
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  Speaker 2: big TVs, are they dropping in price and how big
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  Speaker 2: are they getting?
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  Speaker 3: They are dropping in price. I mean I'm seeing over
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  Speaker 3: one hundred inch TVs at the shows that I've been
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  Speaker 3: to lately, so those are still very expensive. But considering
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you can get one hundred inch the TV.
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  Speaker 3: I have the U eight from High Sense, which is
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  Speaker 3: a fantastic value. You can get a one hundred inch
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  Speaker 3: TV deliver it's your home for thirty five hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 3: That is unheard of. You know, a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 3: you can get a much more reasonable sixty five inch
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  Speaker 3: for under one thousand. So I think TVs when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to pursing those They are definitely a better price
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  Speaker 3: during Black Friday and.
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  Speaker 1: When's it Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 3: So if you're on the fence about a TV, probably
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  Speaker 3: wait just a little bit till Black Friday for better deals.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Rich, some news on chat GPT you want
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  Speaker 1: to share.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is actually really cool. I know that all
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  Speaker 3: this AI stuff is a lot. We've been hearing so
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  Speaker 3: much about it and it just continues to change on
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  Speaker 3: a daily basis, But this is actually really neat. So
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  Speaker 3: chatbt is now interacting with various apps that we know
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  Speaker 3: and love. So we're talking Booking dot Com, Canva, Coursera, Expedia, Zillow.
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  Speaker 1: And what does that mean.
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  Speaker 3: It means that think about chat gybt as now a
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  Speaker 3: front end way to ask questions of these other apps. So,
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  Speaker 3: for instance, Zillow, what would you do. You'd go to
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  Speaker 3: zilo dot com, You'd select the sliders. You'd say, I
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  Speaker 3: want a house for under this price with this many
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  Speaker 3: bedrooms in this neighborhood, and then you look at the schools,
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  Speaker 3: and then you'd further, you know, refine your filtering and
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  Speaker 3: look at the houses. With this, you can now just
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  Speaker 3: stay inside the chat GBT chatbox and just say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: go search Zilo for homes under this price, walkable to
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  Speaker 3: restaurants five you know, four bedrooms, two bathrooms, and I
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  Speaker 3: want it in a place that as a ten out
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  Speaker 3: of ten school. WHOA wait, what all that? And yes,
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  Speaker 3: chat gbt will return you the answers because it's doing
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  Speaker 3: the search on your behalf. So why I think this
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  Speaker 3: is so amazing is because it is getting to the
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  Speaker 3: future that we were promised, which is talking to computers
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  Speaker 3: in natural language and having them tell us the right
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  Speaker 3: answer back. We've already seen that with chat gybt and information.
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  Speaker 3: Now we're getting even further into that.
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  Speaker 2: We've already seen that in two thousand and one a
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  Speaker 2: Space Odyssey, and it's pretty scary stuff. So do you
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  Speaker 2: have to have the chat GPT app? You download that,
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  Speaker 2: then what do you do is go to the app
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  Speaker 2: and ask the question.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can have the app? I don't. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's working on the app on my phone, it's working
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  Speaker 3: on the desktop chat gbt dot com. But you can
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  Speaker 3: also basically, if you want to start this, you have
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  Speaker 3: to say one of the names of the app, So
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  Speaker 3: just say something like hey, check Zillow four or make
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  Speaker 3: me an Instagram post in Canva that does this, or Hey,
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  Speaker 3: find me hotels in Montreal that fit these criteria. So
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  Speaker 3: and then it basically will ask you that first time
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned that that term by name. It will say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: do you want us to connect to your Canva account
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  Speaker 3: or your Expedia account or your Zilo account. And they're
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  Speaker 3: also adding other properties as well, so we're talking Uber,
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  Speaker 3: we're talking Target DoorDash, so you're gonna be able to
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  Speaker 3: order you know, different items just by asking chatchybt. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: this is really transformational when it comes to not just
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  Speaker 3: the average person like me and you that think it's interesting,
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  Speaker 3: but I think for accessibility reasons, this is going to
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  Speaker 3: be huge that people that may not be able to
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  Speaker 3: type as easily or may not be able to speak
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  Speaker 3: easily can now actually go into chatchybt and make these
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  Speaker 3: commands in the natural language and get a response, and
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  Speaker 3: not just a response, but also get action.
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  Speaker 2: So at this point, for example, when I want information,
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  Speaker 2: it's a Hey Siri question, and then I asked the
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  Speaker 2: question whatever it is, so this would just be just
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  Speaker 2: hace chat GPT or I just go on the app
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  Speaker 2: and just ask the question.
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  Speaker 1: Curious as to how it works.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean Siri is it's similar, but Siri
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  Speaker 3: is very basic. If you said, hey, Siri, go out
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  Speaker 3: and find me homes in Michigan with five stars school
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  Speaker 3: and uh, you know a Michelin star restaurant within walking
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  Speaker 3: distance of my front yard, Siri's gonna just your phone's
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  Speaker 3: just going to blow up in your hands. You know,
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  Speaker 3: like nothing's going to happen. Now, you do that same
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  Speaker 3: query on Chat GBT with you know, the addition of
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  Speaker 3: Zillo now and all these things that they've got built in,
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  Speaker 3: and it's actually getting it's taking all that rich information
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  Speaker 3: that Zillo has in its database and it's now tapping
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  Speaker 3: into that and not just tapping into it, but it's
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  Speaker 3: slicing and dicing and understanding it in a way that's
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  Speaker 3: much smarter than just responding with thirty five times seven
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  Speaker 3: is whatever the answer is. So it's just a it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of a fundamental shift in the way we think
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  Speaker 3: about computing, and it's a it's a future that many
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  Speaker 3: people have always wanted, where we just ask these machines
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  Speaker 3: to do stuff and they do it. We don't have
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  Speaker 3: to think about when we first got smart homes, it
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  Speaker 3: would be like Alexa, please turn on the lights in
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  Speaker 3: you know, bedroom two, right, you had to do it
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  Speaker 3: in a very standard, strict syntax that the whatever way
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  Speaker 3: you programmed it. Now it's just like, hey, turn on
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  Speaker 3: the lights in the bedroom and turn them off at
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  Speaker 3: nine pm if you can, you know, like that kind
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  Speaker 3: of thing. So it's much more natural conversation. I can't
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  Speaker 3: wait to see where this goes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Ways, and it's it's conversational reporting.
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  Speaker 2: Now. I'm a big fan of Ways, and I love
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  Speaker 2: the fact that I can select which language or which
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  Speaker 2: accent is coming off it.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite is Scooby Doo. It's true.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they have a Scooby do directional you know,
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  Speaker 2: voice instruction.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: No, no of me. I mean I think Amy King,
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  Speaker 3: I think also does one of the voices on there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's you can.
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  Speaker 3: Choose a bunch of Yeah, it's a bunch of fun voices.
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  Speaker 3: They have Santa, They've got you know, they've done a
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  Speaker 3: bunch over the years. But in Ways is great because
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  Speaker 3: what is It's community oriented, So when you report something,
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  Speaker 3: it helps other drivers behind you. And one of those
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  Speaker 3: things is accidents and road hazards. And this is a
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  Speaker 3: demo I saw last year at Google in New York City.
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  Speaker 3: It's finally coming out. But now when you go to
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  Speaker 3: report something, so you still have to tap the screen,
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  Speaker 3: but when you go to tap the screen, now you
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  Speaker 3: can just say something naturally like hey, there's a mattress
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  Speaker 3: in the road, or there's a speed trap, or there's
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  Speaker 3: construction on the road, or there's traffic right now, and
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  Speaker 3: AI will interpret what you're saying and now feed that
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  Speaker 3: into the app and alert the other drivers behind you.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it's a win win for safety and
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  Speaker 3: it just makes life a whole lot easier. You have
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  Speaker 3: to sit there and look at the screen thinking what
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  Speaker 3: am I trying to report here?
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  Speaker 1: Just say it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But my question is with ways because it'll report
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  Speaker 2: police car ahead, or traffic signal or.
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  Speaker 1: A car on the road. Is it still there? Is
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  Speaker 1: it not there?
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  Speaker 2: I ignore that because I'm past that and I don't
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  Speaker 2: care about anybody else driving. But it goes beyond that,
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  Speaker 2: right do you simply sell my kids?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my kids love doing the reports when we're driving.
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  Speaker 3: They're like, Dad, Dad, Okay, let's see in three hundred feet,
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  Speaker 3: two hundred feet, pet fifty is it there?
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not there? Press the button. So there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people that like this.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, Ways started out as a gamified system,
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  Speaker 3: so it used to be when you drove streets, you
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  Speaker 3: earned like coins, like virtual coins. But the whole thing
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  Speaker 3: about Ways is that this was built from the ground up.
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  Speaker 3: They had none of their own maps, so they would
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  Speaker 3: literally enlist people to drive neighborhoods, and by you driving
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  Speaker 3: that neighborhood and collecting those little coins, you are helping
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  Speaker 3: them build their mapping system. And of course then Google
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  Speaker 3: bought them for billions of dollars and the rest is history.
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  Speaker 3: But it's just it's a very community based driving app,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that's what people still like about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of crazy as Raelies conceived of it,
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  Speaker 2: and now there are a couple of very wealthy, crazy
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  Speaker 2: Israelis to say the least.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I love that you have the knowledge, Bill.
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  Speaker 3: You have the knowledge, Bill, which I love, but you
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  Speaker 3: also present it in a very different manner than I
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  Speaker 3: would like. I yes, like, I know the Israelies came
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  Speaker 3: up with it, but I probably would not have said
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  Speaker 3: to put you said all right?
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  Speaker 2: Saturday morning, eleven to two pm, Rich is live here
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  Speaker 2: on KFI on KTLA every single day, Instagram at rich
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  Speaker 2: on Tech website, rich on Tech dot TV, catch over
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  Speaker 2: the weekend, rich take.
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  Speaker 1: Care, thanks, Bill, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, now I want to talk about your human your
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  Speaker 2: human brain, assuming that it's human, and there's an old
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  Speaker 2: a there's an old adage and that is human beings
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  Speaker 2: they walk with their feet, they stick with their face. No, no,
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  Speaker 2: that's not right. Okay, it was right. No, no, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's not right. I don't remember. I don't remember it correctly.
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  Speaker 2: In any case, there are some studies that have been
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  Speaker 2: done on brains.
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  Speaker 1: What a shocker that one is. And we start with
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about the brain itself.
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  Speaker 2: Pound for pound, the brain consumes twenty percent of all
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  Speaker 2: of our energy.
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  Speaker 1: That is a small amount of matter using a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot of our energy.
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  Speaker 2: The amount of for example, the amount of blood that
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  Speaker 2: goes to your brain is enormous relative the rest of
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  Speaker 2: your body, which is why head wounds heals so quickly,
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  Speaker 2: because the blood just flows through like crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason all this is this is a study
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  Speaker 1: that was done.
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  Speaker 2: Our neural network and this, according to one hypothesis done
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  Speaker 2: based on studies, evolved so we could juggle social network works.
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  Speaker 2: They've connected the two social networks. Brain size. Bottom line,
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  Speaker 2: humans are built to schmooze. That's what the studies show.
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  Speaker 2: We're just built that way. So three pounds the brain
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  Speaker 2: makes up twenty two percent of our body weight, and
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  Speaker 2: three quarters of this three pounds is the neocortex. Cognitive functions, memory, language,
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  Speaker 2: problem solving, self awareness, and these abilities enable people to
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  Speaker 2: navigate the relationships of families and friend groups and sports
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  Speaker 2: teams and workplaces, and it goes on and on. So
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  Speaker 2: there is a professor of psychology and neuroscience at Brigham
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  Speaker 2: young woman by the name of Julianne Holt Lundstad, who
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  Speaker 2: has done a lot of studies in this, and she
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  Speaker 2: says when people are more socially connected, they have increased
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  Speaker 2: survival rates. There's a redisc reduced risks for cardiovascular disease
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  Speaker 2: and stroke and type two diabetes and depression and dementia.
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  Speaker 2: Which is why I'm probably gonna die next week and
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  Speaker 2: not even know that I'm going to die, because I
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  Speaker 2: don't have much of a social network. But here is
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  Speaker 2: the premise, and it is really interesting. The high cognitive
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  Speaker 2: demands of maintaining these social bonds places a limit on
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  Speaker 2: the number of relationships stable relationships, which makes sense that
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  Speaker 2: we can maintain. And this is according to another psychologist,
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  Speaker 2: Robin Dunbar, who's also done studies on this.
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  Speaker 1: And so here's what he did.
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  Speaker 2: Dunbar to understand the limitations of social networking because there's
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  Speaker 2: only so many social groups you can deal with that
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  Speaker 2: our brain actually is built to deal with. He examined
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  Speaker 2: monkeys and lemurs and apes, and he found a connection
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  Speaker 2: between the size of the neocortics that part of the brain,
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  Speaker 2: and the size of the social groups. Now that hasn't
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  Speaker 2: been studied before. The size of the brain, that area
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  Speaker 2: that with the memory, et cetera. It is directly, it
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  Speaker 2: directly correlates to the size of your social of your
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  Speaker 2: social group.
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  Speaker 1: So he came he took a look into primate brains.
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  Speaker 2: He looked at neuroimaging and reviewing studies that documented the
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  Speaker 2: grooming practices, for example, that enable primates to cultivate relationships.
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  Speaker 1: You can see it by the grooming which they do.
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  Speaker 2: They picket little knits like I do from my hair
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  Speaker 2: where I used to do it from my hair, and
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  Speaker 2: these bonds that are created. What they do is create security.
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  Speaker 2: They facilitate social hierarchies. They forge alliances, which is then connected.
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  Speaker 1: To higher survival rates.
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  Speaker 2: So the bigger the brain means that the bigger the
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  Speaker 2: social networking platforms you have, the longer you live, and
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  Speaker 2: the healthier you are. That is the connection. So how
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  Speaker 2: big are these social groups? I'll tell you when we
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  Speaker 2: come back, because that's kind of interesting. Wow, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: will very how big? And we're gonna get away and
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  Speaker 2: we're giving away new Mercedes Benz to the fifth color
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  Speaker 2: when we come back.
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  Speaker 1: How's that for, Ryan Seacrest? Well done? All right, Back,
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  Speaker 1: we go to the study of brains.
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  Speaker 2: And I love these, uh, these studies because first of all,
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  Speaker 2: they're real studies and the stuff that comes out of
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  Speaker 2: them are absolutely fascinating. And so, uh, there are several
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  Speaker 2: studies that I'm referring to, and it has to do
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  Speaker 2: with the size of your brain, that is, human beings
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  Speaker 2: brains and the neo coortix, which is three quarters of
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  Speaker 2: the brain, cognitive functions, memory, language problem solving, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: And here is what the science says that there is
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  Speaker 2: a direct correalition correlation between brain size, social networking, and
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  Speaker 2: how big your social network is.
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  Speaker 1: What are the numbers. Okay, one of the science looked
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  Speaker 1: at chimps because they're the closest to us.
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  Speaker 2: The average social group size of chimps was around fifty
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  Speaker 2: fifty eight chimps around them. That was their social their platform,
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  Speaker 2: and the number of chimps they hung around all right.
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  Speaker 2: So based on that and based on how close the
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  Speaker 2: genetic connection is, one of these sciences, Dunbar extrapolated and
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  Speaker 2: he talked about the likely size of human social groups
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  Speaker 2: and he came up with one.
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  Speaker 1: Hundred and fifty.
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  Speaker 2: Chimps are fifty one hundred and fifty for humans and
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  Speaker 2: beyond that that has held steady since the advent of
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  Speaker 2: human beings, unchanged in the digital age, unchanged through history.
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  Speaker 2: And he tested his theory, went to historic texts, archaeological data,
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  Speaker 2: church congregation, and he found one fifty was the magic number,
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  Speaker 2: including hunter gatherer kinship networks back in the Caveman days,
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  Speaker 2: Bronze Age communities, Anglo Saxon villages, and medieval Europe, Mormon
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  Speaker 2: wagon trains in the nineteenth century, German trailer parks that
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  Speaker 2: exist today. So how does this boil down? The innermost
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  Speaker 2: circle is just five people. Friends are family members, you
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  Speaker 2: feel emotionally connected to the closest to these are people
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  Speaker 2: you talk to or connect at least once a week.
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  Speaker 2: Then comes a layer with ten additional good friends you
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  Speaker 2: see at least once a month. So add ten to that,
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  Speaker 2: and about sixty percent of your social attention goes to
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  Speaker 2: these fifteen people, the five plus ten. Farther out there
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  Speaker 2: is your weekend backyard barbecue party group. That's about fifty people,
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  Speaker 2: including the fifteen you already see. Finally, there's an outer
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  Speaker 2: ring about one point fifty, and that includes one hundred
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  Speaker 2: people that, for example, you would invite to your once
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  Speaker 2: in lifetime big events like a wedding or a funeral.
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  Speaker 2: You wouldn't feel embarrassed about going up to them in
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  Speaker 2: the lounge of an airport and smashing them on.
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  Speaker 1: The back and going hey.
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  Speaker 2: And if contact becomes less frequent, as you would imagine,
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  Speaker 2: down they slide through the layers and after a few
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  Speaker 2: years they're out of your solar system and simply become acquaintances.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Then it goes on.
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  Speaker 2: You have about three hundred and fifty acquaintances on top
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  Speaker 2: of your one hundred and fifty person network. And he
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  Speaker 2: says beyond that, most of us can recognize an additional
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  Speaker 2: one thousand people. Now it seems like a lot, but
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  Speaker 2: for example, he uses President Trump, you would instantly recognize
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  Speaker 2: President Trump, and you would recognize about a thousand other people.
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  Speaker 2: And some researchers looking at this say the number is
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: even bigger. There's a group of Swedish researchers. They published
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  Speaker 2: a paper saying one hundred and fifty is way underpredictable
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  Speaker 2: or way underpredicted, and there's no upper limit can be
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  Speaker 2: calculated at all. So it's the same evolutionary pressures for
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  Speaker 2: primates for all of us.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So if you look at we'll think about this and
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  Speaker 2: you look at the numbers, who are the closest people
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  Speaker 2: to you? Then who is the next lay? Then who's
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  Speaker 2: a layer after that? I only have one layer, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: So it's easy for me. I'm at the I'm at
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  Speaker 2: the far farther edge of the solar system.
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  Speaker 1: Are we done?
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  Speaker 2: Tiny brain, no big brain, just no neuro connection to
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: my cortex, my neuro cortex or my nuko neko.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: It sounds like a huge brain from here.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: It's a neo cortex, it's an almost cortex. It's a
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: newer Cortex, and we're done Cortex and all Gary and
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Shannon up next tomorrow the Ignoble prizes. You will die
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: after seven o'clock. It is just hilarious and it's real
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: sort of science. And then coming up tomorrow it starts
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: all over again. It's Amy and Cono and I think
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Mike Morris is still there, and then of course and
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Neil and I jump aboard Cono and Ann all over
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• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Gee, do we really do this again?
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  Speaker 2: My neo cortex says, yes, this is KFI AM six forty.
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