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Samsung Galaxy S27 Series Gets CPU Split Between Different Global Regions. Exynos 2700 & Snapdragon. · eSIM STUDIOS Podcast - Tech News + Reviews

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  all right so it looks like it's confirmed we
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  now have a clear picture of just what cpus the
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  upcoming s27 series devices are going to be using
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  let's go all right so leading up to the upcoming
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  samsung galaxy s27 series there's been a lot
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  of talk a lot of debate in regards to just what
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  cpus are coming to what models of the upcoming
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  flagship galaxy series now i know there's some
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  people that are cheering for exynos there's some
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  people that are all about snapdragon and before
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  we get into what devices are running what cpus
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  i want to mention if you're not aware samsung
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  has traditionally done a split when it comes
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  to these cpus it's been a long -running rumor
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  that and look it's no secret samsung wants to
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  use their exynos in -house samsung exynos cpus
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  in all their devices in samsung's perfect world
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  it would have exynos in everything samsung but
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  we don't live in a perfect world so let's get
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  to the most recent confirmations as far as what
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  phones are going to be running what cpus so There
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  has been confirmation in a phone, the online
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  publication Phone Arena has confirmed this and
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  even breaks down by market what S27 series devices
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  are going to use what CPUs. So let's get right
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  into it. So in Europe, South Korea, India, and
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  other regions, so Europe, South Korea, India,
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  and other regions, the S27. s27 plus and s27
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  pro would all use the samsung exynos 2700 but
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  but in the united states and in china those models
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  will use the snapdragon 8 elite gen 6 chips instead
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  now the s27 ultra is going to be using the qualcomm
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  snapdragon 8 elite extreme gen 6 globally and
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  that means if you're in the united states basically
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  all the samsung galaxy s27 series devices are
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  going to be running snapdragon so as of recently
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  just as of last week we thought there was rumored
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  to be a split and i'm talking about just in the
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  united states right now We thought the S27 and
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  S27 Plus was going to run Exynos 2700, while
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  the Pro and the Ultra were going to use the Qualcomm
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  Snapdragon variants. But now it looks like all
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  Samsung Galaxy S27 series devices in the United
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  States and China, might I add, are going to be
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  using Qualcomm Snapdragon chips. Now, again,
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  the S27, S27 Plus and S27 Pro are going to be
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  the Snapdragon 8. elite gen 6 the water down
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  flagship cpu while the ultra gets the extreme
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  version well let me know what you think down
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  below in the comments at least this gives us
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  a little bit of clarity when it comes to potential
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  look making your plans for for a potential purchase
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  in the future right i'm kind of split on this
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  topic i I wanted to try the Exynos 2700, looking
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  at some benchmarks. It looks really promising.
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  It actually got a really, really strong benchmark
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  scores. It actually outperformed the Snapdragon
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  8 Elite Extreme Gen 6 on benchmarks. But it looks
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  like if you wanted to test an Exynos 2700 CPU,
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  you're going to have to go and buy a device off
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  of eBay from one of those other markets, whether
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  it be Europe, South Korea, India. And look, I
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  think the issue with Samsung, I did a little
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  bit of homework before I sat down and recorded,
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  is yield rate. So why does Samsung continually
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  fall back on these Qualcomm chips? I know Qualcomm
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  is happy about this, but why can't they make
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  the shift towards all Exynos and Samsung's perfect
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  world? But it comes down to yield rate. So what
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  do I mean? by yield rate so when samsung manufactures
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  the exynos cpu so you have samsung manufacturing
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  exynos you have tsmc manufacturing qualcomm chips
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  tsmc is world renowned for their chip making
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  manufacturing they make chips for all the essentially
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  a lot of large majority uh flagship processors
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  chipsets samsung obviously manufactures their
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  own and it comes down to yield rate so yield
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  rate means on this on this s27 uh excuse me on
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  this samsung exynos 2700 cpu samsung is manufacturing
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  at a yield rate of anywhere between 60 to 70
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  percent now in the menu chip manufacturing world
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  a yield rate anything above 70 percent is considered
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  good it's sort of like in school right if you
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  get a 69 that's a fail and you get a 70 or above
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  that's passing right well obviously you want
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  to get closer to 100 as possible if you're manufacturing
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  chips that means what on these wafers that have
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  all these chips whatever goes through the manufacturing
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  plant if you have a yield rate of 70 that means
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  on those wafers Only 7 out of 10 chips, CPUs
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  on those wafers can pass inspection, quality
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  control, and actually go into devices. That's
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  Samsung's issue. TSMC, by comparison, their yield
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  rate on these two nanometer chipsets, these current
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  Snapdragon 8 Elite. uh gen 6 the extreme or the
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  regular gen 6 cpu tsmc is manufacturing these
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  qualcomm chips at a yield rate of above 90 that
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  means 9 out of 10 cpus that get manufactured
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  pass quality control and can go into phones so
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  samsung's problem isn't actually the cpu itself
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  it's the manufacturing of these chips they need
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  to get their yield rate up it is ungodly expensive
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  i've watched a few done a little homework videos
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  in -depth stuff just from my own knowledge they're
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  pouring billions upon billions of dollars to
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  be on the cutting edge of these chipsets these
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  two nanometer chipsets and after two nanometers
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  is 1 .4 but we're still a couple years away from
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  that Samsung continually pours money and pours
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  money into this manufacturing process, but still
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  can't get just north of passing rate of 70 %
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  yield rate for these two nanometer chipsets for
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  the Samsung Exynos 2700. And they would have
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  to pour an ungodly amount of money, even more
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  money, into manufacturing these Samsung Exynos
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  2700 CPU chipsets. They would essentially be
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  wasting money because out of 10 CPUs that they
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  make, 7 go into phones and 3 have to be thrown
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  in the trash. Well, what gets thrown in the trash,
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  you're literally throwing money away. And it's
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  just not feasible for Samsung to continually
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  pour money and pour money into manufacturing
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  of these when you can't get the yield rate. at
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  least 90 like tsmc so tsmc for every 10 cpus
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  they make they only got to throw away one while
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  they keep nine and those nine go into the phones
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  devices so i think that's their issue now moving
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  into the future it looks like the samsung exynos
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  2800 so a year from now going into the s28 series
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  the exynos 2800 It looks like it's still going
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  to be a two nanometer. But at this point in time,
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  their yield rates are not even above 60 % for
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  the upcoming Exynos 2800 next year. So it looks
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  like Samsung is going to have to do another split
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  on CPUs even next year. So look, at this point,
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  Samsung's been clawing and clawing at trying
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  to get full adoption of their own Exynos CPUs.
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  For whatever reason, it's just not coming to
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  fruition for Samsung. I hope they get it together.
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  I would like to see Samsung have a strong chipset
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  like Apple has with their Bionic chips, like
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  Google has with their Tensor chips, like Xiaomi
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  looks very promising with their X -ring. I hope
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  Samsung gets to that point. It would be honestly
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  better for everybody and better for the device
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  overall. I just don't know when they're going
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  to get it together. And I know they've probably,
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  they've had to have discussed, why don't they
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  just move manufacturing from Samsung manufacturing
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  to TSMC manufacturing? Well, they don't want
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  to give TSMC all that business. Well, do you
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  want to get the Exynos CPU chipset on the right
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  road? And I know it's easy for me to say because
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  I'm just some dope on YouTube. giving you my
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  opinion. I obviously don't have the metrics,
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  the analytics, the data, the revenue, the amount
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  of money they're spending. It's easy for me to
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  say something online, but it would be a dumb
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  guess because I don't know what they're dealing
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  with behind the scenes. So look, I'm sure they'll
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  make the best decision for their company, regardless
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  if they have to manufacture. because samsung
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  doesn't just make these exynos chips right they
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  have they they do collaborations with tesla with
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  with all sorts of other companies making not
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  just mobile device cpus but cpus for cars manufacturing
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  chipsets for other industries data centers stuff
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  like that so it's big business i just wonder
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  if samsung needs to at least move the manufacturing
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  for their exynos chipsets to tsmc maybe it's
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  not as easy as that maybe it's on a different
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  manufacturing process i know they're both on
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  two nanometer but i just don't know if tsmc has
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  the same manufacturing process that samsung does
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  maybe say it won't translate over to tsmc i have
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  no clue all i know is that we're still on the
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  same track with these xmo cpus um now if you're
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  in one of those countries that is getting an
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  xmo cpu i don't think there's you know any i
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  don't think it's time to worry i don't think
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  you should be that skeptical because i do believe
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  they're good performers but time will tell so
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  subscribe to the channel i'll keep a close eye
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  on this and at least now we know here in the
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  us all samsung galaxy s27 series devices all
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  four models are getting qualcomm snapdragons
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  nice