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Comedienne Jiaoying Summers, From China to Standup Comedy and Motherhood · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 6: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I want to introduce
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  Speaker 4: you guys to Zhao Ying Summers, a hilarious female, we
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  Speaker 4: have to always say female before stand up, God forbid,
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  Speaker 4: stand up comic who I met a little while ago
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  Speaker 4: on a fun boat day. And your special is coming
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  Speaker 4: out November 8th on Hulu.
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  Speaker 6: And you're gorgeous and funny. Welcome.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you so much. You are gorgeous and funny.
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  Speaker 5: I literally just left Sacramento Punchline and your face is
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  Speaker 5: on the wall. And I said, Zing, that is Heather.
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  Speaker 5: He's like, oh my gosh, she's so stunning. You have
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  Speaker 5: to dress up for her. I got lazy recently and
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  Speaker 5: my fan complained that I saw she dress up and
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  Speaker 5: she looked like a mop.
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  Speaker 6: Really?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I said, I'm going to have to glam up
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  Speaker 7: for Heather.
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  Speaker 6: I'm very excited.
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  Speaker 4: You know what's really funny about the female stand-up dressing up?
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  Speaker 4: So when I started, you know, it was, like, very conservative.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody was wearing, like, pants and, like, pantsuits. And this is, like,
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  Speaker 4: in the 90s. Or they were, like, grunge, which grunge was,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you know what grunge is, but
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  Speaker 4: it was, like, not flat. It was my worst because
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  Speaker 4: I was, like, glam sorority girl. But I still always
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  Speaker 4: kind of, like, never showed my legs, always just wore, like,
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  Speaker 4: I'd wear like skinny jeans and a blouse and whatever.
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  Speaker 4: And then in the last like five years, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the newer up and coming younger female comics have
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  Speaker 4: gotten glammed up. You, Hannah Burner, like I love that
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  Speaker 4: you dress up. And your, like, this outfit, is this
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  Speaker 4: from the special?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I designed it with my designer.
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  Speaker 5: I told her I wanted a Chinese qipao-inspired dress, and
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  Speaker 5: she made this for me.
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  Speaker 7: So we hand— there' s a snake. I'm a snake.
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  Speaker 6: That's my zodiac sign.
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  Speaker 5: Oh. And so here's a snake, and she designed that.
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  Speaker 5: Gold means money. Red is the China red.
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  Speaker 6: Lucky color.
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  Speaker 7: So we designed this outfit.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's great. Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Like, you know, no reason to diminish being beautiful or sexy,
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  Speaker 4: but definitely— in the group of female comics that came
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  Speaker 4: up with me, there was that for sure in the
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  Speaker 4: beginning to just, because it was like, well, if you're
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  Speaker 4: too sexy, like that'll be distracting from the jokes or,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you'll look like you're just trying to just,
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  Speaker 4: that's all you're good for is like showing your sexiness.
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  Speaker 4: So I think I love it that you can be
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  Speaker 4: so yourself. Tell us a little bit about your background.
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  Speaker 4: Where did you, where did you come from?
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  Speaker 7: I'm from China, grew up in China.
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  Speaker 5: I was born in the nineties. We had a one
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  Speaker 5: child policy. So, basically, you can only have one child.
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  Speaker 5: And Chinese family, they are very traditional. They want to
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  Speaker 5: make sure they have a son to carry on the
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  Speaker 5: family oppression. So, like, when I was born, everyone was
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  Speaker 5: so disappointed. And I was told my father took me
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  Speaker 5: to the dumpster. He took me there.
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  Speaker 6: Is this all true? That's all true. This is not
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  Speaker 6: part of the... Yeah, that was the plan.
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  Speaker 5: It turns out it was actually, there's a family was
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  Speaker 5: going to take me.
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  Speaker 7: Because you can't have kids.
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  Speaker 6: They're just... But another Chinese family.
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  Speaker 5: They'll take a girl. But yeah, they'll take a girl.
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  Speaker 5: But my mom, they just told me the story was
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  Speaker 5: they took me to dumpster. I think my mother, when
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  Speaker 5: my father gave me to the other family, she just,
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  Speaker 5: she regretted it. And she started screaming and she ran
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  Speaker 5: out and she took me back.
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  Speaker 6: How long were you at the other family's house? No,
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  Speaker 6: I didn't leave. They were there.
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  Speaker 5: They were ready to take me. But that was basically...
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  Speaker 5: It's a very rural area. They may sell me to someone.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't really know what I would end up.
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  Speaker 5: But thank God my mother, she wants to keep me.
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  Speaker 5: But she made sure that I know.
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  Speaker 6: It every day.
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  Speaker 5: Whenever I do something wrong, she goes, I brought you
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  Speaker 5: back from the dumpster. You know, you can't get A-.
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  Speaker 5: A- is not A.
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  Speaker 6: Number one. Did she, are your parents still here?
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  Speaker 7: My mother actually, she moved from China to America.
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  Speaker 5: I think when my daughter was about to born to
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  Speaker 5: come to America to help me because I just got
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  Speaker 5: a divorce.
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  Speaker 7: So she's actually living with me now. My mother moved.
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  Speaker 6: What happened to your dad?
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  Speaker 7: He's still in China. We are trying to get him
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  Speaker 7: here eventually.
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  Speaker 5: He's a very severe alcoholic, but now he stopped drinking,
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  Speaker 5: which is great.
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  Speaker 7: Because he had a stroke. That helped.
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  Speaker 6: But your mom is still married to him. They're still married.
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  Speaker 5: The Chinese people just don't... They don't believe in divorce
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  Speaker 5: because they believe in suffering.
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  Speaker 7: They wanted to suffer. Because the more you suffer, you
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  Speaker 7: get a better life.
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  Speaker 5: Really?
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  Speaker 7: You stay married, you suffer more, and you have a
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  Speaker 7: better life, the next life.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, then I'm definitely going to have a great life.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so with that story, I have some historical questions.
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  Speaker 6: When did that policy... come into play in China?
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  Speaker 5: I think it was the 80s, around the 80s, because
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  Speaker 5: China found out that our population is too large.
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  Speaker 7: But India didn't care. India don't give a fuck. They
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  Speaker 7: keep having babies.
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  Speaker 5: India has more kids now, more population now than China.
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  Speaker 5: But the Chinese policy wanted to control the population. So
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  Speaker 5: they want every family only have one child. But the
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  Speaker 5: Chinese are so traditional.
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  Speaker 6: And now hasn't it like backfired? Aren't they saying like.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yes, for sure it backfired. The gender is imbalanced.
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  Speaker 5: There's so much more male and less female. Therefore, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of rural areas, the men, they can't afford to
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  Speaker 5: have a wife. So all the ugly bitches, they are demanding,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you have ugly daughter and five brothers. She
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  Speaker 5: will demand.
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  Speaker 6: Five cars and five houses. For real?
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  Speaker 5: So she can get married and then her brothers can
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  Speaker 5: get the house and cars. And I mean, they are
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  Speaker 5: so powerful, not the ugly girls, even the ugly ones.
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  Speaker 6: Really? That is amazing. So, um, You know, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: There was just a weird time in history where there
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  Speaker 4: was like a lot of talk of overpopulation. And my
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  Speaker 4: mom had five kids and I was the fifth. And
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  Speaker 4: she said one day during that like talk of the news,
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  Speaker 4: it was like viral news stories of overpopulations.
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  Speaker 6: She was at the grocery store with all five kids, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, and we were within 10 years to like, so
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  Speaker 4: the oldest would be like nine and I'd be like
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  Speaker 4: an infant. And she said, on more than one occasion,
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  Speaker 4: someone would come up to her right here in, in
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  Speaker 4: the Valley, LA and say, how dare you overpopulate the
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  Speaker 4: world like this with your kids?
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  Speaker 7: People are so annoying.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's just, it's just whatever is in the news.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's like, you know, I, I just saw
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  Speaker 4: a funny video that was like, you know, the, if
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  Speaker 4: the few, if the, the health people came from the,
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  Speaker 4: you know, there was a time when they said, eat
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  Speaker 4: the eggs. And they said, don't eat the eggs. And
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  Speaker 4: they said, only eat the egg whites. Now they say, no,
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  Speaker 4: you can eat the whole egg. Like, There's just things
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  Speaker 4: where we don't really know what's going on. So with that,
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  Speaker 4: did they really, they really did send like the little
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  Speaker 4: girls down the river, right?
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  Speaker 5: For the families, because you can only have one child.
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  Speaker 5: Once you have a girl, you will never be allowed
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  Speaker 5: to have a boy anymore. So whenever someone have a girl,
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  Speaker 5: they hide the girl. For someone, they can send their
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  Speaker 5: girl to the relatives to hide it. They can hide that.
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  Speaker 5: Or someone, they just don't have a choice. They leave
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  Speaker 5: the girl's, By the trash can or by the river.
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  Speaker 4: So is that when other countries were then starting to
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  Speaker 4: adopt the girls?
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  Speaker 5: Most girls that got adopted in the big cities, they
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  Speaker 5: would have the chance. But in the rural area, they
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  Speaker 5: don't really have access for adoption.
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  Speaker 6: For international adoption.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, they just get rid of the girls so they
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  Speaker 7: can have a chance to have a boy.
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  Speaker 4: So what if then you have your girl and you're
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  Speaker 4: keeping your girl and you get pregnant again and you
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  Speaker 4: do have a boy, then who gets the boy?
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  Speaker 5: You don't get to get pregnant. They will forcefully sterilize you.
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  Speaker 4: So after your mom had you, she had to go
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  Speaker 4: to the doctor and they had to sterilize her?
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  Speaker 7: In a lot of cases. In a lot of cases.
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  Speaker 5: Basically, they are going to get birth control device in
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  Speaker 5: you that is really, really severe. And if you don't
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  Speaker 5: learn from your lessons, you get sterilized. They find out
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  Speaker 5: you are hiding kids. Sometimes they will inject to your
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  Speaker 5: stomach when they find out you are having a second
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  Speaker 5: child without permission.
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  Speaker 6: I swear we're going to get to the funny stuff,
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  Speaker 6: but this is just fascinating to me. It's very sad because...
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  Speaker 6: So when did it... What's the policy now? When did
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  Speaker 6: it change?
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  Speaker 7: Now China want more kids.
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  Speaker 6: So when did it switch? Like around what time?
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  Speaker 5: I think after late 90s, mid-late 90s, it switched because...
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  Speaker 5: the gender imbalance becomes a problem. And the human trafficking
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  Speaker 5: becomes a problem. People are taking advantage of the little girls.
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  Speaker 5: And that becomes a problem. So the government canceled that.
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  Speaker 5: And now, because it's so expensive to raise kids and
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  Speaker 5: send them to education, a lot of younger Chinese people,
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  Speaker 5: they don't want kids. And now the Chinese government is
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  Speaker 5: encouraging couples to have two kids. They'll pay you money
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  Speaker 5: to have a second kid, third kid. Wow.
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  Speaker 4: I knew some of this, but you really explained it well.
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  Speaker 4: So when, so you're growing up in this rural area
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  Speaker 4: as an only child, when and how did you come
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  Speaker 4: over to America?
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  Speaker 5: I I don't know. I, I, I was told a
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  Speaker 5: thing about, uh, for example, being a girl, you have
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  Speaker 5: to be quiet. You have to be sweet. You have
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  Speaker 5: to be obedient. That's the attractive traits of being a girl.
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  Speaker 5: I happen to be a very loud girl. I want attention.
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  Speaker 5: I was ambitious. And I wanted to be in the
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  Speaker 5: school place. I like to read and study. But I
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  Speaker 5: was told that in Chinese beauty standard, I'm too ugly
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  Speaker 5: to be in any school place because of my big cheeks,
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  Speaker 5: my big lips.
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  Speaker 7: And I like to be in the sun. So I'm dark.
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  Speaker 7: I don't believe it.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't think I'm ugly. My mom said, it's
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  Speaker 5: the gender. Your face looks like a pretty boy. You
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  Speaker 5: can be a good-looking man. But as a girl, you're
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  Speaker 5: just not attractive.
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  Speaker 6: She was saying that to you at what age?
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  Speaker 7: Very young.
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  Speaker 6: I was three.
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  Speaker 5: She would just tell me, your lips are like dumpling lips.
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  Speaker 5: Suck your lips in. Because big lips is.
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  Speaker 6: Ugly in China.
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  Speaker 7: They want girls to have little baby bird asshole lips.
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  Speaker 6: Like this.
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  Speaker 5: Like big lips is like girls with our lips. People
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  Speaker 5: just think we are a problem.
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  Speaker 6: So was your mom the... the epitome of a tiger mom? Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: she definitely is. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I got, I got whooped every day for breathing.
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  Speaker 5: She, she, I didn't believe it. I, I saw, I didn't,
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  Speaker 5: I saw she was lying to me, but then I
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  Speaker 5: want to wear pink dresses and all the girls would
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  Speaker 5: throw egg at me, be like, go back to Africa.
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  Speaker 5: That's how racist they were. Against even like, I'm a
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  Speaker 5: Chinese girl. I'm not even dark. I look Filipina at most.
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  Speaker 5: And the colorism is insane. Because not really about the racism,
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  Speaker 5: more about the classism. Because in Chinese history, they favor
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  Speaker 5: fair skin, light skin. Because if you have light skin,
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  Speaker 5: it means you never went to the farm. So being rich,
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  Speaker 5: you know, classism. Being wealthy is considered attractive. So if
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  Speaker 5: your skin is dark, it means you're a farmer.
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  Speaker 6: You're not attractive.
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  Speaker 5: So I was born with dark skin because I look
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  Speaker 5: like my dad. My dad had dark skin. But if
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  Speaker 5: you are a man, you have dark skin. It means
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  Speaker 5: you work hard.
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  Speaker 6: It's attractive.
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  Speaker 5: But as a woman, you have to be hidden in
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  Speaker 5: the room. You never see the sun because your family
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  Speaker 5: is wealthy. You don't have to work. And I just,
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  Speaker 5: I had no idea. I couldn't audition for any school plays.
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  Speaker 5: And I auditioned for Mulan. And they told me you
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  Speaker 5: can play Mulan's father.
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  Speaker 6: In China?
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  Speaker 5: In China.
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  Speaker 7: I was playing Mulan's father. My big cheeks, they were like,
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  Speaker 7: you're a man.
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  Speaker 5: I always was called a man and I finally just
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  Speaker 5: stopped trying to be cute. I still felt I'm cute,
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  Speaker 5: but I kind of cut my hair short and I
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  Speaker 5: started wearing cool boys outfit. I didn't felt bad. I
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  Speaker 5: just thought they were not ready for me. I just,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't think I was ugly, but it was sad.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I wanted to be popular. I want to
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  Speaker 5: wear the pink dresses.
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  Speaker 7: That's why.
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  Speaker 5: Now I'm a big girl now. I want to wear
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  Speaker 5: all the beautiful dresses. I want to be a girl.
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  Speaker 5: I want to have my long hair, finally. So I
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  Speaker 5: enjoy it so much.
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  Speaker 4: I saw in your Instagram really great clips that you share.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone should follow her. But you had someone in the
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  Speaker 4: audience who was from Thailand and you were like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: did you check the, and you just touched the middle
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  Speaker 4: of your throat for like the Adam's apple. Since we're
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  Speaker 4: just talking about history and what's true and what's not,
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  Speaker 4: is it really true that one out of 10 boys
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  Speaker 4: is sort of sent to be a lady boy?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, in Thailand, because sometimes in Asian culture, for example,
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  Speaker 5: if you date a Chinese boyfriend, a real Chinese boyfriend, Chinese-Chinese,
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  Speaker 5: Once you start dating engaged, the boy is going to
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  Speaker 5: get you 10 sets of gold jewelries.
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  Speaker 6: Going to get you sorry, what?
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  Speaker 5: Jewelries.
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  Speaker 6: Gold jewelries.
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  Speaker 5: And it's his responsibility to buy an apartment for you
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  Speaker 5: as a commitment. Like engaged, married, the boy has to
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  Speaker 5: buy a house for the girl and him. And he
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  Speaker 5: has to buy a car. Like it's just your responsibility.
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  Speaker 5: If you can't buy a house and a car, you
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  Speaker 5: can't find a wife. That's in Asian culture.
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  Speaker 6: That's a.
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  Speaker 7: Commitment is security. You have to give the woman the security.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. So she can commit her life to you. So
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  Speaker 5: same in Thailand, it's the same Asian culture, is that
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  Speaker 5: a lot of rural area in Thailand, the boys, they
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  Speaker 5: are born, they would not, their family have two or
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  Speaker 5: three boys. They can't afford to get a wife for
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  Speaker 5: the second boy because they can only afford one house,
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  Speaker 5: one car. So the second boy would become a guy
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  Speaker 5: who never got married. So it's cheaper to make this
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  Speaker 5: boy a lady boy So they can perform and entertain
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  Speaker 5: and make money and make a living for himself or
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  Speaker 5: herself or themself.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know how to say that.
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  Speaker 4: So they start raising them as a lady boy.
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  Speaker 6: It's not like the child is like, I see myself
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  Speaker 6: as a girl.
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  Speaker 5: No, no. It's the The family don't have a choice
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  Speaker 5: because they want to make sure this boy would not
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  Speaker 5: have to be starving and they can't find it. Because
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  Speaker 5: in Chinese culture, if you.
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  Speaker 6: Are a man... Do any of the ladyboys ever, like,
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  Speaker 6: escape and go back to being a guy?
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  Speaker 7: I think definitely there are.
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  Speaker 6: Wow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the biggest problem in Asian culture is if
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  Speaker 5: a family had a son and they don't have the
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  Speaker 5: ability to get... gets the money and security for the
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  Speaker 5: son to get married, for son to not get married,
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  Speaker 5: and the family, the parents believe themselves. It's for the
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  Speaker 5: rural area. The big cities, they don't care. The kids,
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  Speaker 5: they never get married. They don't, like, their minds are
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  Speaker 5: more open. You know, they respect their kids. A lot
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: of Chinese young kids, they are very open-minded, and they
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: don't want to get married.
• 15:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: There's people who are gays, and there are lesbians, and
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: they want to live their life. But in the rural area,
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: they don't know anything more than, okay, if I cannot
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: get my son a wife, I'm just going to do whatever.
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: What about the robots? What about just getting a robot wife?
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: Do you think that's going to happen? They wanted to
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: have the son to marry their wife and have a baby.
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: To have a real baby.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: But I'm saying, do you know of any young men
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: that just say, forget it?
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. I'm just going to get this, like,
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: robot or this, like, you know.
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot in Japan, I think.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, oh, like, you know, where they look like
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: a sex doll, like a sex doll, but they're, like, high-end.
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so.
• 16:03
  Speaker 7: That will be for people in the big cities, cosmopolitan.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: Oh, my gosh.
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: Like, wealthy kids who, yeah, some men, they give up
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: on women. They want a sex doll who is very submissive,
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: can do whatever they want.
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah. What are you going to do? Sit in
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: the corner?
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: She can't get up and go out with her friends
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: for a four-hour brunch.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: If she's sitting and she's a doll.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: So, um, okay. So how did you come over here then?
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: I was 18 and I wanted to come to America.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: I wanted, I was planning for four years before I
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: was 18. When I was 14, I already knew I
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: want to come to America because my, uh, my mom
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: was helping with her, her little, uh, her niece. Uh,
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: she was, uh, she was much older than me.
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: She was 10 years older than me.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: The niece, your cousin.
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: She got married when she was 22.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: And she wanted to open a business as a, It's
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: a video rental, like a little movie CD rental business.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: My mother helped me with it. It was near her restaurant.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: She said, I'll help you with your business, but you
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: have to babysit Jiao Ying after she comes from school,
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: you know, after middle school. You have to help with
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: her homework and let her sit in your business. So
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: I stayed there. My whole time I was selling Japanese
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: porn to people because we had a pair of Japanese porn.
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: It was all in China still. In China.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: I was selling Japanese porn when I was 11. I
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: just set the porn CD and they'll give me money.
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: And I do my homework and I start to watch
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: the Hollywood movies. I start to watch the women, women,
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: dark skin, beautiful woman, Latino woman, black woman in the movies.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: And I just, they are so beautiful. They got beautiful cheekbones.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: They got dark skin and big lips. But obviously they
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: are so beautiful. Why am I ugly? Like what's wrong
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: with this beauty standards?
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: It's fucked up.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: So I said, I can still do acting. I just
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: cannot be in China. They are not ready for me.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: I got to go to Hollywood. I'm going to America.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: But I can't tell my mom that because she thinks
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: actresses are prostitutes. So I just also know because I
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: have no connection in America, I was thinking about I
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: could never become a starving artist. I would learn how
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: to do business, how to make money, so I can
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: use the money I make to train myself as an artist.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: I learned, I studied a lot about the Confucianism and
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: I Ching and the Chinese, the art of war. I
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: wanted to learn how to be a successful person, but
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: I wanted to not struggle from like, because once you
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: want money from people, you don't do art. You go
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: to audition, you're begging them to give you a role
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: so you can pay rent. It's not art. You are
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: so pressured to do things that's for money. So I
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: wanted to make sure I learned something that I can
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: make money. So I told my mother, I want to
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: learn finance in America. I want to learn economics.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: And she said, no.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Because I was very good at school and I was
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: getting in Peking University, which is China's Harvard for literature.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: She wanted me to go there to become a professor.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: I love writing and reading, but I also like to perform.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I want to do all of it. But because of
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: how I look in China, I can't even get in
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: a drama school because of my look.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: It's just so crazy because.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Hopefully you guys jump over to YouTube and watch it,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: but you're... By all.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: Standards, you're gorgeous. Thank you.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: At least in America in 2025, you're very, very attractive.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: Thank you. So that's just so interesting.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: What does your mom, just to jump forward to today,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: has your mom gotten any nicer?
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: She is.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: I think the moment I started giving her money, she
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: just kind of forgave me for being ugly. And also
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: China has changed a little bit. They become more open-minded
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: about tanning. and a little diverse beauty, but it's still
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: very tough, very judgmental. The Chinese actresses, they are 90 pounds,
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: and they are bleached white. I was doing a Chinese movie,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: my first marriage, I was in China, I got in
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: a Chinese TV show, and I was instructed to do
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: a jaw surgery because my jaw was too big.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: Too wide. Too wide.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: I don't look like a woman. They said you look
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: like a man or like a trans woman, whatever. So
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: they want me to shave my jaw. Also, they want
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: me to bleach my skin. I didn't want to shave it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: So they did the haircut, like a bob haircut. They
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: glue the hair on my cheeks to cover my face.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: And they bleached my skin. But they make my face
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: so white, but my neck's dark. So they started to IV,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: like IV treatment, IV bleaching.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: And did it work?
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I got white, but they also just think I
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: was too fat. I was a size zero, but in China,
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: I was too big. So I was eating spinach. So
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: one time I was on set and I fainted.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: I passed out.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: I said, I can't remember my lines. They're like, don't worry.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: Move your lips and stand there.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: We hate your voice.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: We have a voiceover actress who's very talented. I was like, okay,
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: you hate my face. You hate my body. You hate
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: my skin. You also hate my voice. I don't think
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: I should do this.
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I am done. And how old.
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: Were you then? I was 26.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: So I decided at 27, I decided to come back
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: to America.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: So you were in America, but then you got a
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: job in China. And she went back.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I hosted the Chinese Shanghai Film Festival. And that's
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: when I met my husband, my ex-husband. You met him where?
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: In Shanghai.
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: I was hosting the Shanghai Film Festival.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: For the English section.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: So I met him there.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
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  Speaker 3: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 21:56
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• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: filed against me.
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: what would you do if it was given back?
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: He said, I have a work dad.
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  Speaker 7: When I came in, he started crying.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: happens next.
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  Speaker 6: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 22:31
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• 22:34
  Speaker 6: not going to pull punches. You can use your voice
• 22:36
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• 22:37
  Speaker 3: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: And was he in the film business too?
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: He was in telecom and trading, whatever.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: He was wealthy, but it was a very bad experience.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: It was a very bad marriage. In the beginning, it
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: was gaslighting. Everything was beautiful.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: Love bombing. Yeah, love bombing is a word. Love bombing.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: And what was his ethnic background?
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: He's a Chinese man.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: Oh, from China. Was he American too, though, or no?
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: He's very Chinese, but he was kind of international. He
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: speaks English well. He was very handsome, very.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: Charming.
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: Very good looking. So I was love bombed by him.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: Okay. And then.
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: It's a good lesson. A lot of materials.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: And then when did the love bombing stop and you
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: realize who the fuck did I marry?
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: He's not like.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: He's not calling me ugly and fat and he's not
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: saying your legs are so short, you know.
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: You should be wearing high heels. I said, but I'm pregnant.
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: He goes, yeah, you're still short, pregnant. You look shorter.
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: You're fatter now. It just got... It become.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: I think because he's... insecure deep down he wants to
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: chip away my confidence yeah so he can control me
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: like a caged bird he'll pull your feather one day
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: by one you don't realize it's like when you are
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: boiling a frog with warm water slowly increasing the temperature
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: you don't know until you're like okay i'm dead so
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: it took me a long time he starts saying things
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: like oh you look very tired with no makeup on
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: please make sure when i wake up you already have
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: your makeup on i don't want to look at your face.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Now, where were you living when he was saying this
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: and you were pregnant with your first child?
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: I was in Beijing.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: Okay. And you said he was wealthy, so did you
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: have a nice home that he was providing for you? Yeah,
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: it was a very luxurious home.
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: But when I met him, I was in finance.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Were you one of those Chinese people that went and
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: bought the high-end, real luxury goods?
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: Yes, I didn't buy that.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: He bought them because his friends are all rich and wealthy.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Because I came to America as a struggling student. I
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: worked five jobs. So, and then I got in finance
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: and I made my money, but I'm not obviously not
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: as rich as him, but the money I make, I
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: can support my grandpa and my grandmother and my mom,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: you know, that's like comfortable.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: So you were doing finance in what part of America?
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Um, I was in, I had a job in Orange
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: County to do, to, to hedge fund. And at the
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: same time I was taking acting classes with Howard Fine.
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: I was auditioning. I love Howard Fine.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: I got his, uh, uh, Big class and I got
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: his master class. So I was training, acting, I started auditioning.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: That's when I met my ex-husband. I wasn't wealthy, but
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: I also, I would never buy expensive bags. I would
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: use the money to buy my apartment, pay my mortgage.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: I didn't have the money.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: He buy the good things, the expensive stuff because he
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: wanted to make sure I show off.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: I don't look poor in front of his friend's wife.
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: That's what he.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: So he wanted you to have like the nice bag.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he wanted to give me the nice things, but
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: he actually... Slowly, he fired the maid. He said that
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: you should be cooking. As the wife, if you don't
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: cook for me, that you are not a beautiful wife.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: He stopped becoming a different person once I got pregnant.
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: And so then you had your baby, and who's that?
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: I had the first baby, my boy, my son.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: How old is he now?
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: He's now six.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: And after I had him, I moved back to America,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: and I wanted to leave him. But because of this boy,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: and he's a Chinese man, and if I don't have
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: enough money, I can't take my son. So I wanted
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: to get myself a career. Because if we got married
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: in California, it's a different story. I have more rights
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: as a woman. But in China, the richer part of
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: the spouse is going to get whatever they want. So
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: I want to come back to America. John Singleton, I
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: remember I auditioned for John Singleton, and it was for
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: one of the shows called Rebel. And there's a black girl,
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: it's a cop. Her best friend's a Chinese girl. So
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: he asked me, what do you think? I said, that's
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: rush hour on a budget.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: And he's like, you know what?
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: You should try stand-up. You're going to be a star.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: I said, do I have the job? He goes, no,
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: I don't understand the words you said, bitch. But he did.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: So he suggested you do stand-up.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he suggested and he introduced me. We had lunch
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: and he gave me a whole history of stand-up because
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: in China, we don't have stand-up. Stand-up is new recently, six,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: five years ago. But I had no idea you can
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: make a living. I've always been funny. I always talk.
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: I like to write.
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: So I said, I'll try open mic.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: I tried to open mic. Obviously, I bombed.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: But there's something there I felt that gave me more
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: freedom is because as an actress, you wait for the audition. Yeah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: But as a comedian, they can laugh at us all
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: they want. They can make fun of us. But as
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: long as we're getting on the stage, we're getting better.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: So I knew I wanted to do this. And I
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: asked him, how can I get good?
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: He goes, get 10,000 hours.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: Get what?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: 10,000 hours.
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: 10,000 hours. 10,000 hours before you can find your voice.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Okay. I was calculating that's not going to happen with
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: the open mic waiting around.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: Especially here in L.A., it's so hard, you know.
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: So one week later, I bought a comedy club.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: You bought your own comedy club?
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: I still have it. It's on Melrose, and Kawanga is
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: in Hollywood.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: What's it called? It's called the Hollywood Comedy Club. Oh, okay.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: So I wanted to have a place I can perform.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: I saw this storefront on Melrose. It's in Lushmont. So
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: it's cute.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: It's for lease.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I went in, there's a clothing store and they have
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: really ugly clothes. I'm like, okay, I'm taking the lease.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: So two weeks later, I made it into a little
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: black theater, black box theater. And then I started to
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: host the open mic there. I will have a ton
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: of open mic a day, every hour. There's a different audience.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: We have one committee on stage, eight people watching, and you,
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: you know, rotate. And I was the host. So when
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: you are hosting, you got to do all the dirty job.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: I host 10 hours a day. I work like a
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: communist peasant.
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: And two months later, there's COVID.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: And now at that point when you're doing that, what's
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: happening with your marriage then?
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: It's falling apart.
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: He would just tell me, I come home.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: And you have a second child then?
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: Not yet.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: I wasn't planning.
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: Actually, it was a mistake.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: So I was just trying to see if I can
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: get a career.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: It was a mistake, but my dad said, no, we're
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: going to say you were surprised.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: Oh. And you are the joy to the world.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: Both my sister and I were.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: So you were not planning on having more with him
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: and you did get pregnant.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: I did. And I remember that.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: I wanted to keep the baby because I had really
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: bad experiences when I was in college. I was in
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: love with this guy and he was my fiance. And
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: we were going to get married and I found out
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: I was pregnant. And he basically pressured me to have
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: an abortion because he was cheating on me with another girl.
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: He was about to leave me. That's why. So I
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: didn't want to.
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: Now, where did you go to college? Kentucky. University of Kentucky.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: How did you end up in Kentucky?
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: I remember I was applying for different schools and my
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: mother wasn't helping me.
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: But did you finish high school in China or you
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: finished here in California?
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: I finished high school in China.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: Oh, and then... I applied myself. So from China, you
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: were applying to all the different schools in America. Yes,
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: I got my first offer from Kentucky.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: And my mother wasn't applying for me to go, so
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: I just wanted to go to the first school so
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I can go to America first and I can move.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: To wherever I want. And then they gave you a scholarship?
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: I didn't get a scholarship and I worked different jobs to.
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: Pay for my school. And that's where you met this
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: guy and fell in love.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I fell in love and he was a nice,
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: looks like a nice guy, but obviously.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: So then when you were pregnant with your daughter this time,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: you were like, no man's going to pressure me to do.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: Something I don't want to do.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: Even though I didn't plan for her, but I wanted
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: to make sure this baby, I'm going to be the
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: person to decide.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: I'm keeping her.
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: I'm going to give her the life. She's not going
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: to fuck my life up.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: If I kept my first baby, this guy pressured me
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: to not have it, and I regret it forever. It's
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: because it wasn't my choice. Because I'm a peasant. I
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: would work nine jobs to keep the baby alive. I
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: don't need a man to tell me, oh, we can't
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: afford it. I can afford it. That's the problem with me,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: is that I hate that I respect what he wanted,
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: not what I wanted. Because I could afford a baby
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: on my own. Even though I didn't have money, but
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: I worked so hard, I would fucking get my shit together.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: So this time, I'm like, no. I'm going to keep
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: this baby alive.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: Do you know what that's, have you ever heard the expression,
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: do a Hail Mary? What's that? You know what that means?
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: That is, that would go among men talking. And I
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: remember I heard a very misogynistic LA, maybe he wasn't LA,
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: maybe it was syndicated, but when talk show before podcast,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: there was this guy and I can't remember his name.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: And he was so disgusting. But basically I would be
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: intrigued to watch, to listen to him because he would
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: be like preaching to men, like how to get a
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: hot woman to do what you want.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: And he was just the most disgusting guy. Anyway. He's
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: a pickup artist. So, so he said, yeah.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: So he said a Hail Mary is so a woman
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: that you, you know, don't want to spend the rest
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: of your life with her. You don't want her to
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: have the baby. He says she's pregnant. Then the thing
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: that you're supposed to do is say, you know, I
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: love you. We're going to spend the rest of our
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: lives together. This just isn't the right time.
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: That's what he said to me.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: And then, and, and in a couple of years, we'll
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: have the money, we'll have the house, we'll have the kids.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: So he convinces the woman to do something she doesn't
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: want to do and ending the pregnancy. And then, you know,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: is nice to her, brings her some food after going
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: to the doctor, let a little time pass. And then, yeah,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: And that's what he did.
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: That is horrible. I had a friend that that happened
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: to too. Very sad. She really believed him too. She
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: really was like, okay, yeah, you're right.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: You know, and, but believe that this, that he loved
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: her and that they would just make it happen at
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: another time in the future.
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: That's exactly what happened. I was very young.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: I didn't know, but at that time I, I wanted
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: to give this baby the life that she deserves and
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: he deserves, whatever the gender is. So I didn't have
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: a plan B. I was already planning on leaving my ex.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: So every day I work 10 hours and there's pandemic,
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: everything closed down.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: And you're doing comedy at this time too?
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: Yes, that's when I started doing the open mic for
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: the club.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay. And I remember that everything shut down during COVID.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: And I go to my club, I talk to the
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: empty walls. I just read my jokes, like put it
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: in this audience. And I just was thinking, what happens
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: when this thing opens? Because I have to make it work,
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: make my career work fast.
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: How do I do that?
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Then I started posting, I started writing jokes, and I
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: started to talk to them on stage to nobody. I
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: started filming them and posting them on TikTok. It was embarrassing,
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: because you are not funny, you're stupid. You have an accent.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: You should go fuck yourself. And, you know, I'm like,
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: it's so rude. Like, are you a, are you a, like,
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: massage whore?
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: But I mean, I think your mom might have prepared
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: you for a TikTok comment.
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, my mom's, everything, this, like, this girl's like, oh
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: my gosh, she was so pretty.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: You're like, you're nothing, TikTokers. Yeah. You're nothing, you mean bots.
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: I grew up with a Chinese mom.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they'll say, oh my God, you were so
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: pretty before, before you, the baby, now you're so fat,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: you're ugly. I'm like, you think I was pretty at
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: any point? Oh my gosh, do you want flowers? My
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: mom never told me that. She was thinking they are
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: mean to me.
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, honey.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: So, I start posting everything. And slowly I found out
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: that the thing I talk about my real life, my struggle,
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: the culture differences, those are the stuff that worked, that
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: they go viral. So I think social media helped me
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: find my voice in a year rather than 10 years.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: Because as a real comedian, it takes.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: You 10 years to find your voice.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: So when I was starting, they would say, well, you
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: can't start stand-up in L.A. You need to go to
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Chicago or New York where you can get up on stage.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: three times a night for five years. Then you try
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: to get an agent. And they even said, don't let
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: anybody see you until you've done it for two years.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Don't let, don't invite agents or whatever, because they'll remember
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: you being like green and shitty and that'll stick in
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: their mind, even though in three years you're better.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: And, I re so I was like, well, I grew
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: up in LA and I have friends I can invite,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: you know, and family that want, that are encouraging me
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: to do standup and want to see the standup. And
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: that's even back then I realized there is no standup
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: comedy is not becoming an, you know, a neurosurgeon where
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: you go to college and you do, then you do
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: your OR, then you do, you know, it's, there's different ways.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: And especially in 2025 for funny people to shine, which
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: I love the best part about social media. The worst
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: part is you're fat, you're ugly, you know, you're a
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: loser or whatever. That's the worst part. But if you
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: can get to a place where that doesn't affect you
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: as much, the, it is so great because you don't
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: need to go out and You know, you'd have to
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: walk yourself to the car alone and something could happen
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: or these male comedians would act like they want to
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: help you and they really want to fuck you.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: All these things.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Nothing beats a live audience, but it is a great
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: way to test what is funny or what it's not.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Or when I do this podcast, you know, in deciding
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: what clip to cut. I'll wake up first thing in
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: the morning, read the YouTube comments, and people going, I
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: died laughing when da-da-da-da. And then I'm like, okay, I
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: think that might be it. And then sometimes it goes great,
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: and other times I'm like, why didn't that thing go?
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: All right, next one, next one, you know.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: And then sometimes I'll take that funny story that I
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: didn't even think was funny that I said on the
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: show and put that into a stand-up.
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: So there's so many different ways.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: And your story is obviously extremely unique and determined and...
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Love the story of, you know, an immigrant who sees
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: the opportunity and.
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: Just won't stop. Like, that's just amazing.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: And so then you kind of realized the things that
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: did better were... we're saying the cultural differences, which is
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: so true because it's the most universal. It's like why
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: the COVID jokes were the best.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Because everybody could relate to mocking the person who's driving
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: in their car with the windows up and a mask.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: I think every comedian said that, you know, and then
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: it's that type of thing. So, Okay, so continue. So
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: you started to do that and you started to get
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: some traction.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I really believe that I found my voice. Like
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: you said, you know, the audience were like, oh my,
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: I died laughing at that. You're like, okay, this is clicking.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: And when you are talking about the story to your friend,
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: you didn't even try. And people just love it so much.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: Then it becomes such an organic, great style of bit.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would always tell people that too.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: I'm like, if you are just starting and you want
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: to be funny, whatever that might be. Maybe that's on Substack.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's just in a podcast. Maybe that's writing. Maybe
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: that's just telling a joke or doing a TikTok thing.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: I'm like, it is when you're hanging out with your
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: friends and you're just telling something and they're laughing. And
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: then my friends would learn and they'd be.
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: Like, write it down.
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: Write it down.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: And now like on the phone in my notes, I'll
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: be like, that was really funny. Like I should work
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: on that and da, da, da. So it is very
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: much when you are a naturally funny person, which you are.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: You got to have that, but then you've got to
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: have the tools and the determination, but.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: You can get better.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: Like people say, oh, no one can teach comedy. No,
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: you can.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: There is like a cadence and a way of writing
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: that's better, and there is a formula to it. But
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: what's great is that it's creative and everybody, you have
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: your own point of view, and that's when someone pops
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: with their own point of view.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Like, oh.
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: When you are organic and you're not pandering to anyone.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Especially as an Asian female Chinese comedian, at the
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: beginning of my career, only Chinese people wanted to listen
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: to me, but I don't pander to them.
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: And they hate me.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: They talk shit about me.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: But slowly I built my voice as authentic and now
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: they like me. And now I have my audience are
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: not just Asians. I have everyone who likes me because
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: I'm not pandering to a certain person for them to
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: buy a ticket because I look like them.
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: My suffering and my joy is universal.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Being a daughter, being a mother, being the eldest daughter
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: is universal. I'm just a human. I happen to be
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: yellow and I happen to be a woman. And I
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: felt that I was so blessed to have the chance
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: to post things on my social media.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: I post three times a day.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: I post all the way to the delivery room. I
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: was throwing up, morning sickness, posting. I was hugging while posting. nobody,
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: people tell me like, I'm just not like you.
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: I don't like to post. I'm like, you think I
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: like to post? Nobody likes to post.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: And when people want to bag on influencers or anything
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: like that, like, oh, she's just an influencer. She's just,
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: you know, she just wears her outfits. I'm like, you
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: have no idea how much work that is and what
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: a pain in the ass it is yeah and like
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: there's nothing I like better than going to a party
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: and this doesn't even happen very often I wish it
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: happened more where they're like sometimes at the Hollywood party
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: you need to put your phone over there.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: That's good I'm like thank you real conversation and I.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Don't feel like I'm missing opportunities that I should be
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: posting and I should be da da da da And yeah,
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: there's a certain point where I'm like, whatever, I'm just
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: not going to do it that much or whatever. But yeah,
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: like you have, people have no idea how much work
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: goes into it and how, just like any other art form.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: Sometimes you don't just pop like Alex Earl after, you know,
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: doing it for six months.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: It might take years, but as long as you're enjoying it,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: same with standup, when someone would say, how long are
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: you going to give it? I'm like, Well, I get
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: really excited when I have a set. I get a
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: little nervous. I'm excited to do it. I feel good after.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I'll just do it for as long as I... But
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: you don't make any money out of it. Well, I
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: guess I'll just stop doing it when I don't enjoy
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: doing it anymore.
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's about the joy it gives us.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: It gives you a life.
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: It's my drug.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: I feel alive.
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: I make people laugh. And I'm creating.
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: I love that. Did you have any.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: other female stand-ups that along your journey or before you
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: even started that was like an inspiration or that you
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: really liked watching?
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: I feel I can be very real with you is
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: that it's very, very funny. The unfunny female comics, they
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: are very toxic towards me. The good ones, they are
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: so nice to me. The one who's successful, who made it,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: who had their name, they were just extremely nice and
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: they have nothing to gain from being nice to me.
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: And it just, you always hear, oh, someone is big,
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: she's a diva.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: But actually, my experiences are the comedians, the female comics
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: that are not funny, don't have a career, they would
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: just tell me that... You know, you are too loud.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Your accent is the problem. You're never going to make it. Or, like,
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: you can't dress up. You're too dressed up.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: You're too sexy. You're going to distract the audience.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Too loud.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Your accent is too thick. People can't understand you. You're
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: never going to make it. Or just they talk shit
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: about me.
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: I don't even.
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: And I would help if they talk shit.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: But the ones.
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: people like you, people like Nikki Glaser, Margaret Cho, those, those,
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: those women, they are just like, you got a way
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: to help me.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: Like Nikki Glaser, she was just, she introduced me. She
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: will try to give me as much attention and respect
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: when she introduced me. She'll spend two minutes to give
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: me an intro that she's running her set for Golden Globe.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to give her anything for her career.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: I can't give her shit, but she doesn't care. And
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: then Margaret Cho, she did my podcast and the, She
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: talked to me every time I post a photo, a
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: video that she think I need support.
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: She shared her story without talking to me, without anything.
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: And those are the women. And I messaged you and
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: you just respond, yes, come here. Let me get on
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: my show.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: That's the love support I get is because you've been
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: through where I was. When you try to be good
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: and you try to become a good artist and people
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: try to take you down. And you've been through that.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: And so you see me, you're like, I'm going to
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: give her a hand. But the people who never made it,
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: they are small and they want to drag you down.
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: It's so sad.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it is unfortunate. But I always remember
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: that about Joan Rivers. She was just so lovely to
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: Margaret Cho, to myself. A few times I got to
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: meet her when we were both at E! And in
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: her documentary, she featured Kathy Griffin and Kathy Griffin loved
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: her and And she knew that she was still doing it.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: And she, in it, was like, oh, my calendar used
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: to be full.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: Now it's all Kathy. Kathy was, this is like, you know, 15,
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: 20 years ago. And I was like, oh.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: I remember watching that, being younger, at the movie theater
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: while I was doing comedy works.
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: A piece of work. Yeah, a piece of work.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: And I was like, wow, I wonder if that bothers her.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: You know, that, and it didn't. Like, it didn't because she.
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: Loved it. And it's comedy. And she never turned out anything.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Like before the internet, she was doing like people's webisodes
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: when they were called a webisode, which today would be
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: the podcast, YouTube, whatever. If someone asked her, she'd be like, sure,
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: if I'm free that day, like I'm never going to
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: turn down any work because next week somebody may not
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: ask me. And it's like that humbleness of like actually.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: Really loving the art of it.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Is what, you know, keeps you in the game, the
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: longevity of it. That is, that is so lovely. So
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: you're pregnant with the second one. Are you still, when
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: you gave birth to your daughter, are you still with
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: your husband?
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: Um, no, we have, uh, it was, it's become very
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: ugly and he started just calling me names and tell
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: me I'll never make it. And it was just the,
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: A lot of mental abuse and verbal abuse. But the
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: problem is because I'm a Chinese girl from China, that
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: the verbal abuse is just very normal.
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: You got called ugly and stupid.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: It's just because also in my culture, they don't compliment
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: the kids because we believe if you tell the kids
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: ugly names and call them ugly, the less envy from hell.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: There's less devil envy them, so they won't be taken
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: from you. The more you say you're beautiful, you're precious,
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: they got taken by the devils because.
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: they got envy.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: So like I felt.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: So they think like if you tell your daughter she's
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: beautiful and boost her self-esteem, there's a higher chance that
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: something evil might happen, like a tragic accident and she'll
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: die young.
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because the devils want to take her. Because they
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: are envious, they want her.
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: What religion is that?
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: I think it's Buddhism. That is also Confucianism is very.
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: Women should be humble.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: And if you love someone, like in Confucianism, they call
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: Jianlei my cheap wife or like Gower my dog of
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: a son. Someone refer their kids as humble, extremely humble
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: to show that I'm very humble about everything. It's just
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: extreme culture that I am used to that. So when
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: my husband, he calls me, you're so ugly, you're so.
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: Fat now, and you're not smart, you're not sharp.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: I felt like mom.
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: I felt like I'm home again. I didn't feel that
• 45:51
  Speaker 7: he was foreign.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: What did your mom think of this husband? Did she
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: like him?
• 45:55
  Speaker 7: She did not like him because he was 20 years
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: older than me.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: But he looked so handsome. He looked like he was 40.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: It didn't really matter to me.
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: And I thought she would like him because she just
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: wanted me to be rich.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: And this guy is rich. But it turned out my mother,
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: she wanted me to be happy. And she thought that
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: I married him. for the status, for everything. But I
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: married him for her because she blamed that I spent
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: so much money because the first year tuition she paid
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: for and I just felt guilty for going to America.
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: So I wanted to pay off her debt. I wanted
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: to help her.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: So it was just a very sad little love story
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: between a mother and daughter that she wanted me to
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: be happy. She wanted me to find a man my age.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: We can develop something together. But I saw she just
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: resent me for spending her money and I saw she
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: wanted me to pay her the money back I didn't
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: know she just want me to be happy and she
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: can't say it either because she can't say it she
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: cannot say it it's a Chinese mom just don't say
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: I love you I think the moment they tell their
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: child I love you is the moment they die so
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: they can't say it right now.
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: Really has she said it yet no.
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: No she can't she goes what about to your kids.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: As the mom say I love you she goes you
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: fat you know she I love you she goes I
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: love you ugly Like, she can't say it. She tell
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: my daughter she's beautiful because, like, she's so pretty. She
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: look like your ex.
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: So they can be a nice grandma.
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: Oh, nice grandma, for sure.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: Oh, that's good.
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: Just very evil mom. Yeah, she's so funny. She give
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: me so much materials. So it's great.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: So, okay, so how do you tell the husband we're
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: done done? I remember....
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: It was a big deal for me is when I
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: was passed as a love factor.
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: I mean, as an open mic-er, that's.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: A big deal.
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: So now, where were you living in L.A.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: With the husband and the two babies while you're building
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: this comedy club?
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: So we.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: He was wealthy, so he bought, like, three, four houses.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: One of the houses, we rented out the restaurant. One
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: of the houses was in West Hollywood, which I think
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: is very close. Orlando.
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: It's walking distance.
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I love that.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: So I remember I got passed at the Love Factory,
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: and I was so excited.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: For Poulet, that means that now she can be on
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: a list to be booked for spots.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: As an open maker, that's... I mean, it took me
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: two and a half years. That was a dream.
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: But I remember he said, I was.
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: Getting my hair done, dressing up.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: I have to ask one thing. Do you think these
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: other comics were resentful? Because in their eyes, it.
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: Seems like, oh, look how quickly she went.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: And do you think that they also, not knowing how
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: hard you were working, and they probably were not working
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: that hard, do you think they were saying, oh, it's
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: only because she's an Asian woman?
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because she's Asian in the diversity.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: That's why she won the diversity lottery. But I wasn't
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: one who can sell a ticket. I had a million
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: followers on TikTok. They have no followers. Right.
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: All my jokes are my jokes.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: The thing is, yeah, it can only, whether you're a
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: nepo baby or there is, or they're looking for a
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: certain look or type, that can only take you so
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: far in this business.
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: No one's going to continue. It's like when people talk
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: about Kim Kardashian. Oh, she had a sex tape.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: I'm like, do you think a million people are buying
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: skims because she fucked Ray J on tape 15 years ago?
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: I think she's doing okay. I don't think.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: People are going to continue to watch her on a
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: new show with um ryan murphy because like so what
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: like you know at a certain point maybe something might
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: help get you there But you're not going to stay
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: there unless you're talented.
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: I think Kris Jenner is one of the best business
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: women in the world. She is brilliant.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: And the thing about her kids is that it doesn't
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: matter what you say about them. They are extremely authentic.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: They own their mistakes. You can shame them, but they
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: own everything. And that's what I feel like I understand
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: them more. It's obvious they are great business women.
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah. So sorry, so go back. So you get passed
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: at the comedy store.
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, at the Laugh Factory.
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: You're still with the mean husband. Doing my makeup and hair.
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: And he told me that, you know, do you remember
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: you told me when you were a little kid, you stuttered, right?
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: I said, yes, but I don't stutter anymore.
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: He said, no, no, no.
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: I was reading an article.
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: It says that if you do a big performance when
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: you are an adult, you just start to stutter again
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: because you are still nervous.
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: If you do a big what? Big performance. Oh, big performance.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: So he's trying to psych you out before you perform
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: that night.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: He said, I think you should not go tonight because
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: you're going to stutter and it'll be a joke.
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: It'll be so embarrassing. You'll probably want to kill yourself
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: after that.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: For your first night of doing a regular show at
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: the Laugh Factory.
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: I said, I don't stutter anymore. He goes, you don't
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: stutter anymore?
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: I started stuttering.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: I got so angry. I said, I don't stutter. And
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: he started stuttering like me. I just lost my shit
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: and I slapped him. The moment I slapped him, he
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: grabbed my hair, and he choked me. He dragged me
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: to the sink, and he started choking me. The moment
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: he started choking me, I took a cutting board and
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: smashed his head. So, like, I understand physical abuse. When
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: some men punch me, I'm going to strike and beat
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: them up.
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: And where are the two babies at this point?
• 51:10
  Speaker 7: My mother had them in the other room in the house.
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: And you're about to go do a funny set. Downstairs, yeah.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: So he basically grabbed my, because he's.
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: Not a violent person. When you say downstairs, wait, you
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: were at your house when this happened.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: But you had to go down the street to the
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: laugh factor to perform that night.
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: I was downstairs getting ready. How much time between this
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: incident and you going on stage? It was around 30 minutes. Oh,
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: my God. I still performed.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: And I remember that he choked me. He never touched
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: me because he's like a mousy person. He's not physically violent.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: Because I slapped him. So as a man, he was like, oh,
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: my God. I smashed him with the cutting board. My mother,
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: she just, she heard something. She ran downstairs and she
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: took a big vase and she smashed it on him.
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: She goes, I'm going to fucking kill you. Don't you
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: fucking touch my daughter, you piece of shit. And she
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: chased at him with a knife and he left. And
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: then I filed for divorce next day. Wow. Yeah.
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: Did you get a lawyer or did it yourself? I
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: got a lawyer.
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: He wanted to get me back. He thought it was
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: a joke. I said, no, no, it's not a joke.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: I don't play with this. You don't touch me. Then
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: I realized he thought I would be okay with that
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: because I took all the verbal abuse. But for me,
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: because I'm traumatized, I didn't know that was abuse.
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: But I know hitting, striking is abuse.
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: Are you almost grateful that it went to that place?
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: If he still called me fat and ugly, I'm still
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: with him. Yeah, I'm so happy.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: That it crossed that line.
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: It crossed that line. And I filed a divorce. And
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: he basically made a deal with me. He goes, you know,
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: if you want to see the kids, I'm not giving
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: you any child support. Nothing. Because we got married in China.
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: He's also Chinese. I said, listen, I make it very
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: easy for you. I don't want to drag this down
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: with you for two, three years. Because I don't have money.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: I don't have time.
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: You got money. You got time. You are retired.
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: I don't have any money. I don't have no time.
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: I have to work every day.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: So... I wanted two kids. I want no child support,
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: no spousal support. I want you to sign the divorce
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: paper right now. And he did it. And then I
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: had to figure out how do I raise my kids.
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: So we had to- Now.
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: What year was this?
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: That was 2020, I think that 2020, 2021, 2020, right
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: early spring 2021.
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: So things are just starting to open up. People are
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: just able to go out.
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: Oh my God.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: So I had nothing. I downgraded and I started selling
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: my jewelry. All the money I saved.
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: You sold the expensive jewelry.
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: All of my jewelry and my bags. And then I
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: made some money. I made around like a.
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: $ 700, 000.
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: $ 700, 000? My whole life saving before I met him. Because
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: I quit my job after I married him. Because he's like,
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: you should not be working.
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: But I mean, the jewelry in the bags, you're saying
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: you made $ 700, 000?
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: Those are just.
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: The $ 700, 000 went to the house that I put part
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: of the house down payment.
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: So he want me to pay him half the house
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: to buy him out.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: So I had to mortgage the house to pay him
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: another like a million.
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: And I'm paying like.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: Were any of the attorneys like, fuck this guy, you
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: could do better than this?
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: They hate that so much... It's insane. And I had
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: to do a line of credit, which is extremely high.
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: I was paying 10 grand a month because I felt like...
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: I moved to a different house, a smaller house. That
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: is a house I put down payment for. I just
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: feel like the kids lost their dad.
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: I don't want them to lose the house.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: So he.
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: Did he stay in America or go back to China?
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: He went back to China or Europe.
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: So he is not in their lives?
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: He sees them... I allow him to see them.
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: Now I'm doing better.
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: I said, they are going to find out who he
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: is when they grow up. I don't talk shit about
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: him in front of the kids because I don't want
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: to make them feel insecure about they are half.
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: Human, half bastard, you know?
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: I want them to find out what's wrong with this
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: man when they grow up. And it's, so he wants
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: to see them, he can see them. And I'm not
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: taking that away from him. But, uh, I remember that
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: the first time I made money, my mom and I,
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: we sell jewelries and I borrow money from my friends.
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: I'll give them my jewelry for two months. I'll borrow
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: 20 grand and then I'll give them the money back
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: and then I got my jewelry back.
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: Because I just, I sell to the real, real. It's
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: like I lose so much money on my jewelry and bags.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: I just keep rotating, selling everything I have until one day, one.
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: Day I start selling my shows.
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: I start selling 50 tickets, 100 tickets, 200 tickets.
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: 500, 600, then I started to make some real money.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: Was there a moment where you were like, I think
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: this is all going to work out. Like there was
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: a moment in your career and life that you were like,
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: I can breathe for a half a second.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: Or has that come yet?
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it came, I think it was a few years ago,
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: a few years ago, cops, I sold out back-to-back shows
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: and then I got the money.
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: I said, I can pay my three years. I mean,
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: I can pay my three months mortgage. I don't have
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: to worry about next day. I didn't, I wasn't vain.
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: I'm always very down to earth. It's just that I
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: wanted the kids to stay in the house they used
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: to stay. I don't want too much to change. I
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: want them to stay in the same house and same
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: school because it's easier for them.
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: They don't have to see how I suffer.
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: You know, they just wanted to, I want them to
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: feel comfortable.
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: You still live in West Hollywood?
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: No, I moved to Arcadia near Pasadena.
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: Okay. Uh, We just bought a house in Austin, Texas.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: So I want to move my residence to Texas. I
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: bought an apartment in Hollywood so I can stay here
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: when I'm in L.A. But we're going to move to
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: Austin for my residence, I think. I want to do
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: a ranch.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: And so when you travel, because you have quite an
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: extensive tour, then your mom stays with the kids?
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: My mom stays with the kids. We have a mate
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: and she was there. Since my daughter was a baby,
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: and she knows my kids very well. She's a Chinese lady.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: So she helped my mother with cleaning and cooking. My
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: mother takes the kids to school and everything. Whenever I'm
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: in California, I take my kids with me on the
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: road on the weekends. So they actually get on stage
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: and perform. My son and my daughter both get on stage.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: They are six and four. They love the stage. They
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: really like to be on the stage and to talk
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: to the microphone. Because they see me doing TikTok live.
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: It's from live. There's always a phone. And they just,
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: they are familiar with it. I talk. They love to
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: talk and make people laugh.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: And do you have any mom guilt about traveling so much?
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: I have a lot of mom guilt.
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: That's why I feel like I work so hard so
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: I can just start doing the big theaters.
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: I can do two theaters a month. So I don't
• 57:41
  Speaker 7: have to do every weekend.
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: Like two weekends a month.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: Two weekends a month. So I can spend more time
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: with them. But you have to pay your dues. I mean,
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: you have to sell the clubs and over and over
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: so you can have the... You can have the market.
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: You can do theaters. That's why I work every weekend
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: because I want to get there in two years, not
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: in five years because I'll miss their childhood.
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: I have so much mom guilt. I really do.
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: Whenever I'm home, I come home. That's why as a mom,
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: we don't have a comedian life. We come home at two.
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: We wake up at seven.
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: You are a mom.
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: We wake up at seven.
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: There were many times I just remember... So hard sometimes, right?
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just felt like my son, he said he
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: got bullied in school because people think he's slow. And
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: it makes me so sad because I don't have time
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: to help with his homework. My mom don't speak English.
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: My son's so smart. And I feel so bad that
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: people think he's stupid. So that's why I wanted to
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: move to Texas. Because my boyfriend's mom is going to
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: move down with us. And he's going to live with us.
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: We're going to work. I'm going to try to do
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: less shows. I'm going to find other ways to make
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: money to writing my TV show, writing my book. Yeah.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: So I can be with them because there's nothing more
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: than being with them is everything.
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: They know it.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's any two uh male stand-up comics
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: dads probably ever cried about not spending enough time.
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: With their kids so guilty.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: Um you know my kids are grown now and but
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: still you you will question you know choices.
• 59:25
  Speaker 6: Did I do the right thing? But if I didn't
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: do this, I wouldn't be able to have gotten here. Yeah. And,
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: you know, you won't get that time back.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: But when the opportunity is there, especially in entertainment, you can't,
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: you know, like I remember when I wrote my book,
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: there was a time where I'm like, oh, I would
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: have loved to have had this book deal when I
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: wasn't working on a TV show like Chelsea Lately, which
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: was five days a week, I would have loved to
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: have done a little.
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: Well, the offer's not there when you're a nobody.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: The offer's there when you're working all week and then
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: you have to write the book on the weekends and maybe,
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: you know, five o'clock you go in the pool with
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: your kid or whatever.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: And.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: It's just.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: It's so.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, your story is like, I got a little
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: when we were on the boat with Dr.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: Drew, which was like this afternoon boat trip.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: And, but obviously I didn't get to know you and I,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: but I saw your growth and I knew that you
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: were a hard worker. And I, I was like, oh,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: I remember she said she, you know, had a son
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: and I wonder how she does all this.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: And, but I knew you were a good mom.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: I knew, you know, and if you have to make
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: the sacrifice, you have to, you cannot, you cannot, Do everything.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Last Friday was the first time in my baby's
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: life I took them trick-or-treating. And I just, I don't want,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: I did not schedule anything that weekend. I just know
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: I have to do it.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: I have to.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: And I took them to trick-or-treating. And then there was
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: other kids. And then my son came to me. He goes, Mom,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: what do I do?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: And I started to cry.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: I said, you just.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: Go there and say, trick-or-treat. And you take one candy.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: You say, thank you.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: And he said, thank you, mom.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: I never done that.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: I'm so excited.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: Finally, I can be like other kids.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: And my daughter, she went there and she tell me,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: she come back to tell me what people said to her.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: I just, I was, I felt so good. I said,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: that's so worth it. That's, yes, we do need a
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: weekend's income, but you know what? I need to, I need,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: they need to know how to trick or treat. They can't,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: they can't be the only kid who don't know that.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: Like, I feel so bad.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, this is what is so great is
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: that you can be more selective after this tour and you.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: Can, Turn things down. Yeah.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: And you'll get to a place where that weekend or
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: whatever is not going to make or break your bank
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: or change your life. My dad would say it's not
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: going to change your lifestyle. One gig is not going
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: to give.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: You a jet or whatever.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: And you are going to have to say yes, no,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: or change it or whatever. And you will never regret that.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: like not doing that weekend in Dallas or whatever, if
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: there is some opportunity for you with your kids. And
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: so now tell me how you met your new love
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: of your life.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: I met him last year on February in Austin, Texas.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: He was filming my show. I hired his friend to
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: film my show, and they said they needed two cameras
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: to capture the crowds.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: So he hired him.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: I remember he was so handsome and sweet, and I
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: remember I gave all of the camera guys a merch
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: of mine, a hat. So he took a hat. It
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: was a funny hat. It said, Ass Pro Shop, with
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: my ass on it. But A-plus, Ass Pro Shop. And
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: I remember February, the first time I met him, and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: around June, I came back to Austin. And he walked
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: into my green room wearing my hat.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: And I'm like, hey, do you want a shot?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: But he was, I think he had a crush on me,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: but he felt, because he worked on my show, he
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: didn't want to be unprofessional.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 7: He didn't want to ask me out.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: So I said, I have to, I have to do it.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: And then I remember this girl, the girl at the club,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: she goes, oh my God, he's so hot. I want
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: to fuck him. I'm like, he is hot. And then
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: my other girl's like, he's so hot. I'm like, I
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: want to fuck him. They're like, you don't do that, though. Like,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: you don't fuck guys on the road. I think I'm
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: just gonna.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: That's only for the male comedians. Yeah, we actually don't
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: do it. We just are like, I just want to
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: get back to my room. And if you have kids,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: you want the solid night's sleep.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: That was always the.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: Nice thing when they were little. I was like, I
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: kind of love this hotel room. No one's waking me
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: up at 6 a.m.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: Or whatever. So go on.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 7: So I told her, no, no, I can do it.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 7: I'm a communist. My pussy belongs to the people. I'm
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 7: going to fuck him. I remember that I had to
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 7: convince him to fuck me because he won't do it.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 7: He's a nice guy.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: I had to have guys try to.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: So we went to the Four Seasons in the lobby
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: and I said, hey, do you want to have a drink?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: He's like, yeah, my name is Zayn. I said, whatever. Yeah.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: I just look at his beautiful blue eyes and big eyelashes.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: I'm just like, oh my God, he's so handsome. He's
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: so sweet.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 7: And he didn't want me.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: Now, had you dated much between the husband and him? No, nothing.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 7: I have kind of dated some guy like for two weeks.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: Okay. Not even for, it's like the guy want to
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: marry me after two weeks, like the love bombers. Oh, okay.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 7: Which I just so turned off.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: Okay. And he's literally, he just talk about his life
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, yeah, but do you want to go upstairs?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: He's like, what do you do upstairs? I said, do
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: you want to have some tea to my room?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: He's like, Okay. I said, yes.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: So we went upstairs and I got in bed. I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: got naked in bed. I just sitting in bed.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 7: He's literally sitting on the couch. I said, hi.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: He's like, hi.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 7: He's like, do you want me to make some tea?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 7: I said, I'm naked. He's like, I see. I'm like,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: why are.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: You covering your face?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, you're naked. I said, we're going to
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: have sex. He's like, uh-huh. Yeah. But I don't think
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: you have a condom. I said, oh, I Uber Eats
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: condom right now. I also DoorDash the condom. Which one
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: ever come first? I did Uber Eats condom. He went
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: downstairs and he come back. He's like, you really got condoms?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: I said, yeah.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: He's like, okay. And we had sex. And then he
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: texted me. He's like, I will see you again. I
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: was like, okay. I didn't even respond to him. And
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: I just never talked to him again. I liked it.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: He wanted to call me, but he didn't think I
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: wanted to talk to him again, because I never responded.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: You just did a little thumbs up on the text?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: A little heart. A little heart, okay. But nothing. Didn't respond.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: So he wanted to talk to me, but he realized
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: I wasn't interested. He also thought that probably what I
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: do on the road, I just fuck guys on the road.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: But he was the first guy, like I actually had
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: sex on the road. I just, I met a different guy.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: He loved me later, and then I remember in September,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: I came back to Austin, late September, and I I
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: saw him again. He said, I want to see you.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: I said, I don't have time. I don't know if
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: you are working for my show. He goes, yes, my
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: friend and I are working on a show.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: I'm like, okay, whatever.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: So I saw him. I remembered how sweet he was.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: And then I remember that after that, I kissed him.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: And he said, I wanted to ask you on a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: real date.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: I said, okay.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: So we went on a real date and he didn't
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: want to have sex. I'm like, I'm, I'm fucking you.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: Like I'm, I'm fucking you.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: And then we had sex and I asked him, do
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: you like my big tits? He's like, I'm an ass man.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: I was like, this guy's not going to go anywhere.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, this guy's not going to go anywhere. He's cute,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: but oh my God, either he's gay or autistic.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 7: I don't know. He's, he's a good, I'm an ass man.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: I'm like, okay.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: And then he just literally, we, I flew him out
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: to film my show in, um, in, I think it
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: was Canada, five cities in five days, very tough, and
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: he was very sweet.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 7: He didn't want to have sex with me.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: He's like, I want to really date you, which means
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: that we need to get to know each other. We
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: need to become real friends. The sex is going to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: be so destructive. I was so mad at him. I
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: was so angry. I was so pissed at him. I'm like,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: you just don't want to fuck me.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 7: You think I'm ugly. You don't want to fuck me.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 7: You think I'm ugly and fat. That's what you think.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 7: He's like, that's not it.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: So he was just so different. And he also had
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: a corporate job before he started filming. He worked at
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: Tesla for five, six years. So he's a very nice man.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: He's like a nice, normal guy.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: He's a nice, normal, sweet guy.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 7: He actually wanted to get to know me.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: I was offended.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: All my friends were like, I think he's a nice guy.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: He's not laughing at me. He just wants more than
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: having sex.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: You just weren't used to that. I wasn't used to it.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: You weren't used to anyone being nice to you. No,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: I wasn't.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 7: I said, you want me? Just me? Without my body?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 7: You just want me?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: My annoying self?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: He said, yes. I said, but I talk a lot.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 7: He goes, I like to listen to you talk. I'm like,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 7: what's wrong with you?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: Then September, December, he asked me to his girlfriend. I said, yes,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: I asked him to spend five days in LA with me.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: I said, but you're going to stay in a hotel
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: because you can't live in my house. I don't want
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: you to meet my mom. He said, but what's the
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: real reason? I said, yes, I'm under house arrest for
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: my DUI.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 7: I have anger alert.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: In real life, I got a DOI last year.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: Oh, you did? How did that happen?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: I was drinking and I crashed in my car because
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 7: I fell asleep.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: I was so tired. Also, I have bipolar, so I
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: forgot to eat sometimes. I overwork as a workaholic. I overwork,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: I forgot to eat.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: So were you coming back from a show or something?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: Actually.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: I did a lot of shows that week and the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: month before. And then I did a Sunday, I think,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: at the Ice House. So after the show, I went
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: to drinking with some friends. And I haven't been eating
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: for probably two weeks.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: Oh, God.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 7: Just drinking, no food.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: And then I just passed out.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I fell asleep in the car. It was a
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 7: Tesla X. I forgot to use a self-drive. And my
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 7: car crashed into two trees. I killed two trees.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: And then is that when you woke up when you
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: hit the tree? Oh, I woke up.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: The car was flipped three times. It was, Oh my God,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: were you hurt? The car was totaled. But they took
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: me to the hospital, they scanned me. They think I
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: definitely have some internal bleeding. It turns out I was harmless.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: I had some glasses on my face, tiny little pieces.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: And I.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 7: Maybe.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: Because you were past it, because they say sometimes like,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: you know, if you saw like a truck coming at you,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: your whole body would tense up.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: Like a cat.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: And so then when you get hit, the injuries are
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: much worse. Then if you were.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: Out of it or asleep or under, more relaxed as
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: you are intoxicated.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 7: I think so.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: Oh my God. So then the police were at the
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: At the hospital?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they got my blood test, and I think I
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: was definitely, there was a lot of blood, whatever. So
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: I got a good attorney, so I was able to
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: get a good deal. I got house arrest.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: But then you couldn't do stand-up, or you could because
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: that was work? I did a podcast, too.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 7: I went on shows.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: So as long as it was work, you could do it.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 7: As work, I can have that excused, and I had
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 7: a podcast.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: But you weren't able to drive? I can't drive.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: I don't want to drive either. I'm always texting anyway.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: So now my man drives me around. So the first week,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: we are dating.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: So you don't drive, but will you ever drive again
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: if it's self-driving?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 7: I will. I will.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: But can you legally drive right now?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 7: Right now, no. But next year, I can. I got
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 7: my license back.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: And was your mom mad at you for that?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: No, she was so happy I was alive.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: Oh, so she wasn't then... No, she.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 7: Was actually so mad. She goes, you know what? You
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 7: are not heard. Fuck the car.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: You are not heard.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: But she wasn't mad that you drank?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: She just know that I was going through a lot.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: That's actually my ex. He end up fucking me up.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: He went behind my back and sold all of my
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: stuff and my clothing, my archives, my shoes, my bags,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: jewelries in China without my knowledge. I found that out.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 7: And I was screaming and yelling at him earlier. I
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 7: was in a bad place.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 6: Just in a horrible spot. It was in a horrible spot.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: But the first week of dating, his girlfriend and my
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: boyfriend came to take me to jail.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: And then he.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: As part of your DUI, did they make you go.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: To AA or anything?
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: Yes, I go to AA. And I like the guys
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: at AA. There's a lot of old guys at the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: AA class I go. They're all in their 70s. Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: They've been there for 30 years.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm the only... woman there.
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  Speaker 4: I remember thinking that I remember somebody saying, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the best AA is at Robertson or whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 4: in the 90s. A lot of agents go there. And
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  Speaker 4: I remember seriously considering going to AA.
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  Speaker 6: For the stage time. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Because you could get up and tell a story and,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and oftentimes they, a lot of people, they
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  Speaker 4: tell the same story for 30 years.
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  Speaker 6: They get pretty good at it. They have punchlines. It's like,
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  Speaker 6: it's a good training. So do you speak at the meetings?
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  Speaker 7: We share a little bit so it's like everyone share a.
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  Speaker 5: Little story so I don't do it because I don't
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  Speaker 5: want to because you have those pharmacists the assistants they
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  Speaker 5: go there they dress up they're like trying to be
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  Speaker 5: cute and funny I don't want to steal their spotlight
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  Speaker 5: you know I just want them to shine I'm just
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: like a mop in the corner be like yep I
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  Speaker 5: am a drunk hoe I listen to them I just
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  Speaker 5: want to see them getting on stage and they got
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  Speaker 5: all dolled up they drive they wear it's so.
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  Speaker 4: Cute So just tell everybody, like, where the next spots
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  Speaker 4: are going to be, where they can find you. The
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  Speaker 4: show is on Hulu, premieres this Saturday, November 8th.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And I just know my Juicy Scoopers are going to
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  Speaker 4: love it.
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  Speaker 7: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 5: And.
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  Speaker 6: Congrats with your man.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: And where are you guys now in your love journey?
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: We are getting our house in Austin. We just got
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: the apartment in Hollywood. So I'm going to sell my
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: house in Arcadia, Pasadena area. And we're very excited to
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: have our new life. And he's also my tour manager.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: So he produced my podcast. He's my full-time slave. which
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: I'm so lucky to have him. And I'm in Magoobies
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: at Maryland next week. I'm in Chicago and Philly and Singapore, Hawaii, Honolulu, Maui,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: all over the place, San Jose, and JowianComedy.com.
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  Speaker 6: When you go to Hawaii, can your kids... I'm taking them, actually.
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  Speaker 7: I'm taking my mom and kids for 10 days.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, that's so.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so glad you're making vacations. I remember, like, when
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  Speaker 4: I was doing Chelsea Lately and I got a gig, like,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: somewhere around Phoenix. I said, they said, oh, you can
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: stay at this hotel, whatever. And I go, could they
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  Speaker 4: find me the hotel that has the water slide? So
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: the kids came and they were able to go the
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  Speaker 4: water slide. But then my younger son at the time
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: wasn't tall enough. And so we got up to the
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  Speaker 4: top and I was like, oh, shit. And I'm like
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: trying to spike up his hair, getting up the line.
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  Speaker 6: He's so cute. And I felt like it was like
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: a DUI test.
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  Speaker 4: Like, I was like, just don't look him in the
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  Speaker 4: eye and just go sit down real quick before the
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  Speaker 4: lifeguard realizes you're too little.
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  Speaker 6: To go on this. And he's like, okay, okay.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: And then the guy's like, excuse me, sir, you know,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: can you come.
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  Speaker 6: Over here and stand?
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  Speaker 4: And he looks at me, he's like, and he was
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  Speaker 4: so mad because his older brother couldn't go down the
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  Speaker 4: water slide.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, next time, you know, we then, we did.
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  Speaker 4: What a real fun was we, I did the Atlantis
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: casino and we went and then everyone was tall enough
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: to go on every ride there.
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  Speaker 6: And we went on that water slide. So it was like,
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  Speaker 6: I was always like, how I was like feeling my age.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't know how many other.
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  Speaker 4: Comedians you have that are like just trying to like
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  Speaker 4: book things around like amusement parks and like miniature.
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  Speaker 6: Golf and bowling.
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  Speaker 7: I always do San Francisco because we got the zoo
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  Speaker 7: and the Legoland.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 4: And then when my son, I remember I took my
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: son and we went to the Alcatraz thing when he
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: was older, like when he was like 10 or 11,
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  Speaker 4: that was like such a fun tour.
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  Speaker 6: And yeah, San Francisco is fun. There's a lot to
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: do there. We always book around. I know you're doing
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: a New York in December.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: New York in December Gramsci Theater we sold out two
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: shows on Saturday we're gonna probably edit one show on
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: Sunday awesome hopefully we can edit that one yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That is so great it's so lovely meeting you and
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: I really loved like our heart to heart and getting
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: to know you so well and Um.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: Everybody, please. What's your Instagram?
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  Speaker 7: Is it Jiao Ying Summers?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: Say how you spell it.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 7: J-I-A-O-Y-I-N-G-S-U-M-M-E-R-S.
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  Speaker 4: Yes. And of course it's going to be all linked
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: and everything in the notes of this show. And thank
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: you so much. And just to remind you guys, I
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: will be, I think there's like literally a handful of
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: tickets if you get them right now. I'm almost sold out.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: MGM Grand, November 14th, a live Juicy Scoop. This is
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: BravoCon weekend, so it's a very Bravo-centric Juicy Scoop show.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: And that's all at heathermcdonald.net. And thank you so much.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Heather.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: You're so great.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: And you've changed your flight and everything to make this recording.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: So I appreciate it. Because I was like, when you
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: said your special's coming out the 8th, I'm like, well,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: I really think you need to come on the show
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: before the 8th so people, like, Put it in their calendar,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: watch it, talk about it, share it.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you so much for making it happen. I appreciate
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 7: you so much.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, you're adorable. Thank you.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
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