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RHOBH: "Barcelona SuperMarket Sweeps" with Dana Bowling · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama, Darling, Drama, Darling Drama Darling. Hello everybody, welcome back
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to drama Darling. I made Phillips, your little bitch wife over here,
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ready to break things down with my incredible guest, Donna Bowling. Donna,
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Yeah, I love drama, Darling. I consider myself one of your darlings.
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I am definitely not away from drama. This is perfect. Yes,
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well, you know what we do in this world is that we follow the
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drama on television, film, what have you, and then in our own
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lives we try to stay away from it, you know, as best we
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can. We do our best. We do our best. Not always gonna
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be the case, but here we are. We fly above a fla above.
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Wait, look at between your wallpaper and my wallpaper. We have created
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like a jungle. You've got what are they? Lions? What are they?
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They're cheetahs. This is the Cheetah room. Okay, you've got the
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cheetahs and I'm in the Amazon rainforest. We're we're like the Discovery Channel.
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We really are. We're not geo bitches, We are not bitch Geo's right
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here off in your face. Do you think do you think there are podcasts
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that talk about drama in the national geographic world. Yes, there's so much
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drama in those fucking lion Uh what do they call them dens? I don't
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know, I know, I don't know. That's what the show is called.
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The Lion's Den, The Lions Den. Shout out to the Lions.
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By the way, I'm a detroiter. So you guys did so good and
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we'll get you. We'll get you next year. You know, you bombed.
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I mean, I'm I'm bombed, but so proud. Bombed but proud.
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You know, yeah, bummed, but proud is pretty much my my
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go to mantra. But we also have like Taylor Swift, you know,
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in the whole that whole world. So that's exciting too for everybody to enjoy
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it. It'll be a fun super Bowl. So Donna, if you don't
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know Donna Bowling, you've got to check out her podcast, her YouTube,
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her Instagram account. She does an incredible podcast called Daily Dose of Donna,
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and you're gonna get that dose. You're gonna be a dozer. I'm a
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dozer as you are. Darling. Oh my god, we're the D's with
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the Double D's today, we're the Double D's. I definitely do not have
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a double D situation. I'm not I'm not doubles and I'm not an actual
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D. So I mean I'm neither. But that being said, metaphorically speaking,
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we're double d's today, So we're gonna break down Beverly Hills today.
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We have a little bit of dish to serve up. And I have to
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congratulate you on your incredible podcast. I've I've known you since the days of
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when I was on conditioning and you were actively a casting director, hot casting
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director, just like top notch geez Louise. And to watch your career go
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from just top tier casting director to being an incredible podcaster who's charting left and
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right. Congratulations, what did your thank you? Thank you? You know,
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I have no idea how or why this transpired. It's so funny because
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this last month, I don't know if it's just from me being guests on
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like Dumois or other people's shows. All these old industry people who I used
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to work with, you know, ten years ago, fifteen years ago at
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you know, network studios that I kind of fell off, you know,
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being in contact with. They're all following me on Instagram all of a sudden
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saying, oh my gosh, I love your show. I listened to your
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show, and I'm like, that's weird, you know, because they know
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they know me as like trying to get the next casting gig or working for
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them. You know, it is a crazy I just think it's never too
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late to start something new, and why not go for it? Love that.
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I absolutely love that. I'm looking at getting into my double twenty fives
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next month. Okay, Karen Huger, I know double twenty five's is a
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big deal. You looked a big freaking nominal. Wow, thank you.
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It's the cheaterh Seriously, that's a cheat, crazy Amy. I never would
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have guessed. Wow, really, that's amazing. Well you had your daughter
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then late forty two, Oh my god, it was still working. Yeah,
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I I well, thank god to IVF. But we had started trying
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and when I was about god, I would say thirty seven or thirty eight,
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and you know, like a lot of women, three miscarriages, you
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know, there's a lot of like complications. Then you dig in deeper and
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then it's the IVF time, and then you know, IVF is knocking at
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my door. So you know, we got in right under the wire.
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Let me tell you it's amazing. I mean, that's awesome. I know
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she said, look, duh, that's my goal, haba duh. I
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like it. So yeah, I totally agree with you. We zig and
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we zag and a lot of the times on this podcast we do talk about
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you know, business and being an entrepreneur and tips and tricks and things like
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that. So what I love is that a lot of my listeners from Serious
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XEM have followed me over to the podcast and so they're seeing this transition and
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seeing what it takes and what I have to do differently from being on Serious.
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So it's really wild to like experience that alongside of the darlings and having
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their full support, which is great. So and I know that you are
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feeling that same way because you've, like you've had a lot of renditions of
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podcasts and it's been interesting to see you find your way in and now your
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podcast is just you and you really blend pop culture, you blend your personal
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life, you know, family, treat and would you say industry like the
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yeah, the back the behind the scenes type of stuff from casting. I
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think you know it's it's true. This is my fourth podcast, I mean,
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which is kind of crazy to say, but a lot of people would
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be like, Wow, she's a failure because she's on her fourth But in
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fact, I actually think like that is a necessary trajectory. Most people don't
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find their thing in their first s. Yes, right, it's kind of
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like you have to try something if it doesn't work, instead of hitting the
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wall and just staying there, like you pivot, you shift, you know,
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and that goes for like anyone that is even right now considering to start
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a podcast or like even creating content TikTok, instagram, YouTube, whatever.
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I always say, you know, it has to be something you enjoy doing.
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But if you're audience is not feeling it and they're not picking up on
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it, I would probably try to shift and say because it is a puzzle
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piece, it's like finding the thing that you love doing that your audience wants,
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and then it goes into like that flow, yes, and finding that
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niche Yes, I completely agree. It's one of those things like you know,
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as somebody who's done some writing, comedy writing and taking classes and gotten
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advice on from people, and it's one of those things where it's like you
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want to focus on the thing that you're the most excited about and that you
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love the most because it's coming from that place of it's always going to be
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authentic. So do what you love the best, you know, whether that's
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a podcast or whether that's selling something on Etsy, do what you love,
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because then that is what's going to take you, I think, to the
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place of when you have the most passion for where you're going to have the
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most success. So I love that you landed there and you continue to grow
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and you're an inspiration to me. And I'm so excited you're here. You
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know, Ryan Bailey was with me yesterday for a Patreon I've been wanting to
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get you guys on the podcast for a while, so I'm just I'm stoked
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you're here today. So in the meantime, before we get into Beverly Hills,
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we have a little dish to serve Donna. Donna's going to serve up
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some dish with me, okay, first serving, Yes, you serve the
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housewife in the Hustler. Part two is going to be coming out on Hulu
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February twelfth. Obviously, I know you saw the first one. Will you
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be tuning in for the second one? Donna? I mean, of course,
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can you imagine if I'm like, I don't know better things to do
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then and I listen, this is what we do. Obviously, we have
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to find out what's going on. I'm a little confused because I've heard some
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crazy stories about how this came into production because isn't Erica in it? Which
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she's meeting with the and she's meeting with the victims. I saw something,
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right, She's meeting with the victims at an ice cream place that was founded.
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It was like a charity thing. But anyway, this was the middle
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ground that they were going to to talk to her. So did she know
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she was in housewife and the hustler too. She had to have been right,
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she had. I have heard some weird things about that. What have
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you heard? I've heard that there was like a little bit of you know,
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you bamboozled her. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's just rumors.
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But from what I've heard me, of course they didn't bambooso. They
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may mauzled exactly, but I mean, I would imagine she has to sign
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off on everything. But you know, I think that the craziest things about
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documentaries or productions or whatever is like, technically, if you sign off and
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you say I will be in your documentary, you don't have final say over
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what the scope of the documentary is, what the approach is. Like.
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Sometimes you think you're doing a night thing and it's a hate piece or you
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know what I mean about that person you're talking about, and then you're like,
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oh shit, I didn't mean to be part of that, right right,
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Well, I don't know. I love that there's some mystery behind it
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because that will probably get us to watch. I know. It's like the
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Housewife and the Hustler in the House of Cards with the Traders, Like I'm
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very excited. Oh my god, you are watching Traders, right? Are
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you kidding? It's Thursday. We're very excited for tonight's episode. So excited.
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Okay, good, all right. Kenya Moore is in Abducted off the
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Street on Lifetime. It will be Saturday, February tenth, eight seventh Central.
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We've got to support our girl. She's in this movie. Okay,
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okay, so we have to watch it. We have to watch it.
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I mean, who doesn't also want to watch a Lifetime movie about being abducted?
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I mean we all that hits right, It hits right. It brings
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me back to my traumatic childhood watching the after school specials of like eating disorders
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and you know kidnappings. Do you remember watching those? Like really dramatic?
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So this is right end. This will like feed that you know part of
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you that you want? Okay, podcast alert. This took me totally by
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surprise. But I open up Instagram and I see the Teddy Mellencamp and Emily
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Simpson have a podcast on iHeart and it's called Popping Off. What are your
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thoughts, Donna? Are you okay? You know I've known Teddy for years
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and years. Yes, I am blown away by her success in this podcasting
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space she she got. She had a podcast and I wish I could remember
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the name of it, but it was just Teddy and it was prior to
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I was a guest on it, but there was like a couple of producers
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or something, but it was just Teddy. But it was for iHeart,
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and it was I don't think it was nearly you know, I don't think
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it was doing what she wanted or what they wanted. Getting Tamra on her
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show was a genius move. And then of course Tamra comes back to OC
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so now it's like so relevant, right, Emily Simpson and Cynthia Bailey do
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these like guest appearances, and they help out when Tamra's shooting or when one
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of them is not available. So I'm not surprised that this happened, But
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did you see that? It's actually it's it's like an empire of podcasts now
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because Teddy and Tamra started their own basically production company for iHeart called Two Tea's
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Presents. I did not know this. So do you want to know what
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kind of shows they have under them? Okay, yes, they have Teddy
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and Tamra obviously, the twats the Two Te's. They have Tamra's Trader's podcast
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that she's doing that limited Trader's podcast. Tama's doing a yep, she's doing
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about okay, and I think it started last week with Janelle, who was
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her first guest, so she's going to probably have I thought that was to
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tease when I saw them together. Oh my god. Okay, then clearing
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this up for me? Okay, yeah, I with Marisol and Alexia from
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Miami that's under their umbrella, Get out Brilliant. Are you gonna tell me
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too? Jay's in a jersey or something is under it? Oh no,
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oh my God. Jackie and Jen Fessler's show from Jersey is also under two
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teas. And then finally, oh, the last two are the Eds.
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Oh the Eads, Yes, okay, thes that's Tamer and Teddy's husbands.
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And and then this one was announced, so like, look, okay,
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hate the what do they say, like, hate the player, don't hate
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the game or whatever. I don't know. I hate the game, hate
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the game, not the player. All I want is to know how much
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money those two women are making off. iHeart because they are tating over they
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are I okay, So it's so wild to me. First of all,
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I'm supportive of this podcast, in any podcast that's gonna pop off, okay,
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And then popping Off. I love the name, by the way,
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it's a great name. I think it's a great name. But there's another
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popping off pop culture podcast because I looked for it yesterday on Apple Podcasts and
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it doesn't have its own like feed yet. It was just kind of like
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put on the two te's feed, you know how they can just like insert
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an you show. Okay, But there's another show called Poppin' Off and it's
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a it's literally a pop culture podcast, like they had an episode two days
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ago, and I'm like, this, poor girl, whoever this popping off
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is getting tricky because if they didn't, obviously they must not have trademarked it.
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And then that's that's trouble. You know this is this happens again.
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I'm sure you know this. I know this, and I feel like it's
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one of the things that when you're and forgive me for saying this, but
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if you're a novice in the world of entertainment or this type of industry and
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podcasts and stuff like that, you don't understand that a lot of people come
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up with the same idea. So and this happens too, like on blogs
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and things like that, memes, anything with like Instagram accounts. There's a
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lot of in fighting with that when they say this person stole this. And
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I do agree that there is some stealing, there's some thievery out there.
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However, it is very possible and most likely a lot of people have the
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same idea, you know what I mean, Like it just happens that way,
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and that happens in the comedy world too. A joke or the concept
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of a joke happens all the time, or it's you know, taken or
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another comedian will do it not even knowing that another comedian already said that there
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are people out there who obviously do take what isn't theirs. But this does
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happen, so sorry popping off, I know, ri Ip popping off.
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So but anyway, yes, there's the But here's the thing about podcasts,
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and I was saying this, yes, I think on my show because I
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was talking about this whole thing. What's cool about it is the reason why
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they're so successful. The reason why there's always new ones popping in, popping
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off and popping in is because, like there's going to be an audience for
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every single person. There's a lot of people that ye won't like my show,
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but will love your show, and vice versa. And so even if
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you can talk about the exact same topics, it's just your approach. It's
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just like meeting a friend or a boyfriend. Exactly right. You have your
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piece. Absolutely, I agree, so well, congratulations to them. In
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other news, Kim and Kroy. Now this was a story that came out
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yesterday. Page six picked it up bodycam footage of Kim. She's in a
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police officers. I mean, it looks like an interrogation room. But she
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is making she's filing a police report against Croy for stealing her jewelry. Now,
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apparently her attorney told her to do this, to which they actually are
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like, well, I'm sorry, there's nothing we can do because what's when
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you're still married, what's yours is his and what's his is yours, So
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we can't do anything at this time. I'm sure the attorney probably just wanted
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to get it on record that this happened. But she's basically like, he
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stole my shit and he's selling it, you know, And so like she
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found out. The way that she found out was because somebody DMed her and
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I don't know, somebody DMed her the stuff that Croy like sold her of
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hers and was like, I'm so grateful for your stuff, your jewelry,
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and she was like, oh hell no, and you know, essentially just
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was like I had no idea, and that's what tipped her off. So
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now she's at the station, you know, filing a report. These two,
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Okay, Number one, they've cornered the market on ets, eBay,
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Craigslist, I don't know where, Facebook, marketplace, Like where are they
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selling all the shit every single time? I hear a story about Kim and
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kroy to Bow them selling their goods like it's hambags. I honestly think that
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KROI was literally just going through the house like what can I sell? We
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need to pay our bills. Yes, totally, that's exactly what he was
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doing. Like, I don't think he was like, oh, I'm gonna
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screw Kim here, He's like, my daughter needs to eat. Yeah,
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yeah, one hundred percent, that's exactly. And they was in a safe.
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He opened the safe, she couldn't get into the safe. Well,
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of course he changed the locks because he probably was like if I don't sell
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this and get liquid, she's gonna sell it and go gambling, I know,
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or like get her hair done again or her nails. You know.
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Honestly, I'm thinking about if this ever happened with Lance and I. I
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don't know what would happen because what would he sell? Like he'd be like,
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well, I think she got this at h and m haha, Like
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here's a six dollar token costume jewelry. Tear down that wallpaper and sell that
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wallpaper, don't true. He's gonna like he's gonna sell your brand, He's
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gonna sell your podcast if fucking to t's iHeart. I hope he sells it
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to I don't know, would you, because because then they would probably take
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a cut. I don't care. Well, I'm joking, I have not
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because it would be extra promotion. The way I look at it right now,
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it would be very hard to understand like how or why I would ever
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give my podcast and like sell it to a network. To be one hundred
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percent honest, it would have to be like a really good making, money
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making deal, because you're right, it's nice to have complete ownership over everything.
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You know, there's and this is a whole other conversation about podcasts,
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but like people do it so differently, you know, bitch sash right,
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Yeah, of course I love those girls. I'm not subscribed to their platform,
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to their new platform. So I subscribe to them because I noticed that
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they were releasing a show once a week that I was looking forward to,
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and I'm like, if I'm looking for to their episode and then it goes
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away, like I'll be bummed. Yeah, So I paid five dollars a
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month, which to me is like so worth it for four episodes. I
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know they have like different tiers. Number one, I had a dream last
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night about them. I just thought of it like we were working out together
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anyway. Those they decided to pull off of working with a network. I
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remember they were with one of those you know, big percast network, Yes,
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yes, ear Wolf, and then they pulled off just to do their
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show ad free but based on subscribers. And I wonder what they're going through,
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because that's the thing. It's like, it's so there's no stability,
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that's the problem. Yes, I understand. It's so interesting because their their
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story is very parallel to mine in terms of like they were on Earwolf,
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I was on Serious XM. And it's wild because eight years ago when I
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remember, I had approached Andy about doing a podcast and I wanted to get
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his blessing on it because he is the one who has been my mentor,
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like giving me so many opportunities in this world of housewives. So I was
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like, I just wanted to get his permission that I was going to go
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out there and start doing this podcast. And he was like, yes,
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but why don't you do it on radio Andy, And that hadn't existed yet,
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and I didn't know he was going to be starting a network, so
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I obviously jumped on that and was like, yes, so I was one
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of the first programs on his show, And that being said, I obviously
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chose to go that route instead of a podcast. That being said, cut
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to seven and a half years later when I'm you know, in negotiations and
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things do what they do, and I won't go too far, but the
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point of it is is that I needed to I needed to cut and run.
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Unfortunately, despite my loyalty to Andy and though he was so supportive regardless
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and did everything he could, but I had found out, you know,
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eight years ago that Bitch Sessh was starting right after I started on Serious,
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So we started our journeys at the exact same time. Then I was moving
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out of Serious and onto a podcast at the exact same time they were leaving
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Earwolven onto Theirs, and I think for the exact same reasons, which was
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wild. So that being said, their journey is always just so close to
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my heart because I feel like kindred spirits with them, and we don't really
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connect on that level in terms of like talking about business so much. I
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mean, like we've touched down a couple of times, but I really respect
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what they're doing and I think like in this world, it is so important
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to have that IP and to follow what you want to do. And they
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have such a loyal fan base much like mine that like was so supportive when
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you've moved on, and that's like really the key. Yeah, it's about
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bringing your people with you, because your people will follow you know, if
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you have developed a relationship with your fans, they're going to follow you kind
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of wherever you go. Hopefully are willing to to, you know, pay
23:02
five dollars a month or whatever to listen to your show, which was a
23:04
big risk for them because they don't have a free option anymore. I mean
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they'll randomly drop free episodes, but it's not an option where you and I
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have free options plus the subscriptions. What's so interesting is what you just said
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about the Andy thing, And without going into detail, do you wish you
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went into the podcast first? Are you happy you sometimes? Yes, yes,
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some of it, Yeah, because I know I would be making a
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ton more money, I know really, oh yeah, because of the growth.
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Because of the growth, and because when I when I began eight years
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ago, no one there's there was only one other watch of Crappins Watch with
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Crappens. They were the only ones that were really cornering that market. And
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so because I know that I would have been in early and I would have
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been doing what they're doing, and I know that I would have been doing
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like I would have gotten the ads on because I was in on the ground
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floor. So because of what I've seen other people like Danny Pellegrino, because
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I've seen what they were able to do because they started early, I know
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my growth would have been much more exponential as opposed to a plateau at serious
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with very small upgrades. So that's where the growth wasn't there monetarily, and
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that's really unfortunate. So that being said, yes, I do wish monetarily,
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you know, monetarily, I wish that was the case. I just
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thought there'd be more of a payoff. It's serious, and that's I would
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have signed up seconds if I were you in that moment, and Andy Cohen
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offered me a show on his network. There's not even a question, of
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course, and I don't regret that. I don't regret it. Being connected
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with Andy is invaluable, and so so what you can't get monetarily. Having
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that connection with him was always just so great, you know it was a
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stamp of approval, like I'm under his umbrella and it you know, the
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street cred that goes along with that is huge, so so grateful, so
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grateful. Yeah, yeah, No, it's interesting. I mean, everything
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happens for a reason. And honestly, had you gone on your own,
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the growth could have been there, but it could have been a hard or
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growth because being on radio Andy really got you in front of your prime audience
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every day. And it wasn't like you didn't have to fight to find your
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listeners. They found you just because you were there, and then they fell
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in love with you. Yeah. I mean, there's so many ways you
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could look at it, Donna. I mean I suppose you know, but
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yes, do I think about that? Yes, I absolutely do. Do
25:42
I wait awake at night thinking about it. No, we're talking about it
25:47
now. And that's those are the Those are the that's been my thought process.
25:53
What don't I don't land there, you know, I just don't.
25:56
I don't stay in that space. I don't land there. And I'm happy
25:59
to be what I'm doing now. Absolutely, I'm with you. And if
26:03
you are laying awake at night, if you should do what I did last
26:06
night, which was take a Vina CBG THHC gummy. Oh god, I
26:11
am well, I have my own gummies. I haven't gotten into the Vina
26:15
although, no, I don't have my own brand. Why it would be
26:18
funny if you had a Drama Darling Zone. No, I wait brand Donna.
26:22
I was talking about that two days ago, and I want that.
26:26
So are you? Are you someone that enjoys a gummy? Oh? Yes,
26:30
like at night or all the time? No, no, at night
26:33
at night? It just I do it every night, but I do love
26:37
it. How about you? Well, I I like being high. Too
26:44
high for me is literally my biggest fear, and I got too high a
26:47
few weeks ago by mistake, and I never want to feel that way again.
26:49
But I can't sleep at night right now because I'm going through so much
26:52
crap in my head. So everyone told me to buy the Vina. Like
26:56
I forgot. It's not called lights out, it's called like rest easier.
26:59
I can't even remember. Yeah, but there. It was two milligrams of
27:02
THHC and it does taste like you're eating a marijuana plant, but with like
27:07
a little grapefruit on the side. I know, but I took half of
27:11
it last night. I woke up in the middle of the night one time
27:14
and I remember feeling like I am high. One milligram was enough for me.
27:18
Well, I think that's great because you obviously are very we're you know,
27:23
we're cut from the same cloth, and you know we're we We don't
27:26
want to feel too out of control. So I think this a little dose,
27:30
little dose, a little Donna and her mgs of THC. You know
27:36
what I mean. That is my new brand daily dose and it's gonna be
27:38
THHC. Or can we just a cafine? You and I need to start
27:45
our own one. Okay, there's a lot here that we can talk about.
27:49
All right, well we we after hours, we'll do it. Yeah,
27:52
we'll do it after hours, as I say, after the drama of
27:56
drama Darling. But listen, we before we get into Beverly Hills. I
28:03
want to just chat with the ladies out there. And if you're over forty,
28:08
and if you're looking at you're double twenty fives like me, and you're
28:12
not using cream makeup, it's time to do it. If you don't already
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know my journey with Saint. I started using it, I became obsessed with
28:22
it. Then I realized, oh, I can sell this, like I
28:26
can be a rep for this. Duh. So now I am, and
28:30
I love doing the color matches. I am fully involved with it. Like
28:36
I color match you. You send me like a makeup free selfie, no
28:41
filters, guys, and I color match you and then you then I suggest
28:45
to you what shades you should use. And it's three D makeup. It's
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the contouring, it's the foundation, and it's all in one compact, which
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is sick. It's so easy. I love it. So if you want
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me to color match you, text me three two three five three zero one
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go to link in my bio, which is meet Amy Phillips. I'm gonna
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put the link in the podcast notes, so there you have it. Let's
29:15
get in two Beverly Hell yea, Hey, what a thrill. Okay,
29:22
First of all, what's your blood pressure? Donna? How are you doing?
29:23
How's your blood pressure? Hold on, Crystal and Anna Marie? What
29:27
is my blood Okay, I'm at one. I'm just I'm good. I'm
29:32
good. Oh, thank god. Okay, Well what's yours? I'm at
29:34
one ninety two over five hundred. No, I that was kind of scary.
29:38
Seeing her blood pressure just skyrocket like that. That freaked me out.
29:45
It was it was high, and it was in a foreign country and they
29:48
were high up. Yeah, and it was high protecting. I'm trying to
29:53
think if I've ever had high blood pressure like that. I don't think I
29:59
have. I have not. Mine is freak you out? Yeah, that
30:04
was a real like this is what I love about these real reality shows,
30:08
Like we're seeing in real time someone struggle with a health issue that runs in
30:14
your family. And let's get all eyes on high blood pressure, hypertension,
30:18
Like, let's get all eyes on that right now, so we can check
30:21
in and be like, okay, what are we doing, what what do
30:23
we need to do to make sure we're okay. This is what I loved
30:26
about that. And poor Crystal, you know this runs in her family,
30:32
and with Anne Marie being there for her, it really wasn't something that we
30:36
saw coming. And I did love this little twist of fate here, which
30:40
was that she was there for her, you know, doing the nurse stuff
30:44
in the van, willing to go to the Barcelona local hospital, but Gavin
30:51
was going to go so we're fine, Gavin, get eyes on. Gavin
30:55
like, why don't we have a microphone on? So? So yeah,
31:03
I want Andy a camera and Gavin, I want to know what really went
31:07
down. All I will say is this, Yeah, bless Anna Marie for
31:11
being there and appreciate her for trying to step in. I personally don't understand
31:17
why it made sense for her to say right next to Crystal, who was
31:19
like literally high blood pressure, passing out and anxiety attack, saying like,
31:23
hopefully you don't stroke out, babe, what happened? Things you don't say
31:30
like now we know, Okay, we know a little more about Anne Marie.
31:34
You know doesn't have a good bedsign manner. I mean she was,
31:38
she was there, but then she ruined it, you know, she really
31:41
I that was so tough. I was like, well, you know what,
31:45
Amy, that's why she's an eight point five. She can never fully
31:49
get to the ten. It's like that's why her husband was like, listen,
31:52
bit you are great, but you never perfect. It's true, You're
31:59
right. She showed, she showed us who she was and eight and I
32:04
wasn't even thinking about her having a stroke. I mean, I guess I
32:07
didn't really, I don't connect the two. Well, Crystal did mention earlier
32:12
when she was panicking and she was like, my hands are tingling. She's
32:14
like, these are stroke symptoms, which means that Crystal is probably just like
32:19
me, a hypochondriac that spends a lot of time on web MD. Her
32:22
dad told her. She was like, oh, my dad told me what
32:27
the stroke symptoms are, and I'm like, okay, so they've had this
32:29
conversation. I just I am really not equipped to know much about the medical
32:36
field and things, so I didn't know that hypertension and stroke go hand in
32:39
hand. So honestly, honestly, it was scary to watch. I couldn't
32:44
imagine being there without like your normal life and doctor. But I do think
32:51
dehydration, altitude, flying tired, all those things don't help. No,
32:57
the just being up there on that windy road, I'm thinking, oh my
33:00
god, now this ambulance has to like make their way and this is gonna
33:05
take forever. And then it is always funny when you have the housewives call
33:08
an ambulance and then it gets to the point where it's like, well,
33:12
who's gonna go with them this? You know, everyone was like, yeah,
33:17
we're Gonna. I mean it was I need to pray for you,
33:22
Crystal. I gotta go praying this chapel for a candle I did. That's
33:27
why I was like, Anna, Marie was really nice to genuinely ask.
33:30
But the fact they were like, we're gonna have Gavin. You guys all
33:32
stay here, I thought, oh thank god, because well producers are like,
33:36
listen, we need we need story. Yes, we need, we
33:38
need to we can't take the players. We can't bench any of them.
33:40
And then like cut to remember when Kenya was. I can't remember where they
33:45
were, but uh they uh she she made Candy go with her to the
33:50
hospital. I'm like, that is such a horrible move, like, don't
33:52
make a cast may come with you, poor Candy. I know, even
33:55
when Vicky went to the hospital with a bed sheet over her head, I
34:00
think she went alone, Like I can. I think housewives should go alone.
34:02
I mean, I always pour with Gavin. Just send Gavin, but
34:07
leave that. Haven't there Gavin is the resident hospital like a chaperone. Totally,
34:15
They're like flying Gavin, He's gotta go. We got another hospital scene
34:19
we gotta take. So that was really really nice. I appreciated that this
34:24
chapel situation was really really sweet. I did. I thought it was.
34:31
Erica had the fucking episode of her life, hitting on all cylinders, hilarious,
34:38
the you know the lines, great saying I've already done this shit about
34:44
the chapel. I mean, so she wasn't waiting around with Crystal. She
34:49
was like, you guys have it. She went straight to the church.
34:52
She's like, oh, Crystal's stroking out. I'm out Crystal stroking. She's
34:57
like, I was with an old man. You'll be fine. I mean,
35:01
I'm surprised Erica didn't get in there and just start resuscitating, you know,
35:06
knowing the one two threes about how to deal with She's like, when
35:09
Tom's blood pressure used to go high, I used to just get a little
35:13
naked for him. It would lower his Yeah, she's love goes high.
35:17
We go low there, chapel. Yeah, she starts going low with just
35:23
everything. She was like so bitter being in the like it was a crazy
35:30
we saw a you know, Erica's definitely on a redemption tour this season.
35:35
That is really what she's been doing this entire season, showing her you know,
35:37
more calm, good side. But at the end of the day.
35:40
Erica's got like she's she's an America. She is. Oh, she's full
35:46
on out there. I did love seeing that. I'm like, Okay,
35:50
well, you don't have to be a genius to know that Beirut, you
35:53
know, is going through some things. Like I mean, everyone kind of
35:57
knows. So her throwing out these you know words wasn't as astounding to me
36:01
as perhaps it was the other housewives. But I love that she caught them
36:06
off guard, and I love that she was able to, you know,
36:09
one up everyone at the table there. I mean, when I'm drinking too
36:14
much, I don't think I get smarter. So this was a crazy thing
36:16
I've ever like, I have never seen a person drink and then like and
36:22
she was drunk. I mean, let's be honest, So I've never seen
36:25
someone drink to an excess and then come off better. Yes, yes,
36:30
you're right. It was crazy. It was the best Erica we've seen in
36:35
like what three seasons. Probably, Yeah, it was fun. It was
36:38
like she she did say a couple of things that could have been offensive,
36:42
but no one really took offense to it, like because it was just merse
36:45
and a purse. I think merce would have loved that comment. You know,
36:50
oh my god, Merce was like he I mean, knowing what kind
36:53
of guy Marse was, he was like, was dead. Yeah, he's
36:58
like Erica Jade is talking about me? Yeah, oh my god. How
37:01
about Trevor being so just taken aback? He was like fan girling out over
37:08
Erica. Trevor has never like Trevor is the leader of the real House as
37:14
a Beverly Hills Facebook page, Like he is so excited. Wait, you
37:17
just said Trevor has never Okay, y'all, we're gonna play a game called
37:22
Trevor has never How do we not play that game at that table? Trevor
37:28
has never been around a housewife that he hasn't been obsessed with. Trevor has
37:32
never heard a joke about Merce that he didn't love. Yeah, yeah,
37:37
I mean I was like, did I miss like a moment I heard about
37:40
Trevor. But how are these other people involved? Were they all Marse connections?
37:45
You know, that is a great question. I think they were just
37:47
Trevor. I don't think they were Marse connections. I think they were Trevor
37:52
friends in high society, if you will. The Aradite is what aerodit ever
38:00
heard. Oh you haven't. I have heard it, and I will tell
38:04
you what a fool I am because I've heard it, I've known what it
38:07
meant, and yet I always pronounced it as aerodyite. So I'm out.
38:14
I'm out. I can't pronounce it as areola. I'm really out. I'm
38:20
one of the arioliadites. Yeah, I'm an ariolia dite. That's our new
38:23
that's our new podcast. To presents to t's an aerodyte, two d's,
38:31
double d's in an aerial area. Wait, we've got to get your drama,
38:37
darling. I'm daily dose. We've got to get two t's presents double
38:39
d's. Oh my god, you're so right. They have two j's,
38:44
Like, get all the alphabet in there. Yeah, we're well, we're
38:46
getting through it fast, so we better claim those ds pretty quick because the
38:52
hell, who else? Who else would be our dada? And shit,
38:59
No, I don't know. I don't know if Durinda, Oh my god,
39:01
can you imagine Adrinda and Durte podcast that the honey? I mean you
39:07
know what, Drik, can't you talk too much? You know? You?
39:10
Dinda? Darrinda by all by all means I appreciate you what about dur
39:17
being so makeup free in yesterday's episode is rebranding? I love it. She
39:22
looks great. She is a natural woman. Oh and you know what she
39:28
showed us all she doesn't need that. She's beautiful. I actually do think
39:31
she's a pretty woman. Oh I do too. I mean she's stunnying.
39:36
Yeah, yeah, okay, they all are. They're all studying, all
39:39
right. So the town. Oh wait, we go we go to the
39:43
town. Oh, hold on a second, No, we're at the chapel.
39:45
The psychic. Oh that the Sutton and Kyle moment when they were holding
39:50
each other, and and I love that, and and a psychic told Sutton
39:55
that her dad was tired and right or psychic so the way a psychic talk
40:04
to Kyle. But someone else told Sutton this. Oh I can't remember.
40:08
It was an aerodity of some sort, but it was someone maybe a psychic
40:13
told both of them. I don't know, an aerodyite told Sutton. And
40:17
then sudden and then Kyle said that that the psychic told her about Lorraine,
40:25
how she was, how she was. What did the psychic actually say about
40:30
Lorraine? Something about how she's okay or she's better or she's feeling. I
40:34
don't know, I think that's what it was. I have to tell you
40:37
that my like the what do you call it? Watermark was over the streener
40:44
and it cuts off the subtitles so I couldn't see this would this would kill
40:47
me. This is watch why I watch live. I I because I am
40:52
so old that I need subtitles to watch everything. Yeah, like I need
40:57
to know what they say. No, God, this is something that smart.
41:00
This is something that I'm not sure if you were going to talk about,
41:04
but okay, I'm going to get into it on my show today.
41:07
But Kyle Richards, Like, who is this Kyle Richards? This is not
41:12
Kyle that we know on the show or in real time. Well, in
41:16
the episode, it's like she's not there. Oh in the she just noticed
41:21
that she said about eight words for the entire episode. It's so on.
41:24
Kyle is usually like right in it. Yeah, she was very subdued,
41:30
Like even at that lunch where we're all talking and you know, in the
41:34
middle of the courtyard right after the church. Yeah, when Garcela and Dured
41:37
had that conversation, it's almost like like if you go back and watch,
41:43
she's literally the whole time, like she's like Crystal two seasons ago. Yeah,
41:49
yeah, well in Crystal, this see I mean everything. Yeah,
41:52
that's true, true till you're such a fucking bitch. I am. Well,
42:00
I totally see what you're saying, and not only in this episode,
42:04
but in flashes and other episodes. And I agree with you. She is
42:09
reserved. She's taken a step back. It's almost like she is like trauma,
42:15
detaching from this show to protect herself because of everything she's going through.
42:21
And I think that you're right. I do. I see that. I
42:24
didn't really broad strokes clock that, but she is. She's kind of like
42:30
taken the heavy weight and just just kind of trying to shift it on to
42:36
other people, like with her energy, Like I can't give you as much.
42:39
I've got this going on, I've got that going on, and really
42:43
it should be enough for her story because she is going through marriage problems,
42:46
she lost her best friend, you know, she has this new relationship with
42:52
someone who she's really connecting with, meaning Morgan, and so it's everything is
42:58
different. Everything. It's yeah, wild to watch, and it does set
43:01
a different tone for Beverly Hills. You're right, Yeah, it doesn't.
43:06
It does it feels like a different Kyle. I mean, it's interesting to
43:08
know that Kyle's not like the lead of the show anymore. In my opinion,
43:13
Like you just started watching this season, Kyle does not come off like
43:16
a lead. And if you watched episode you would, yes, if you
43:21
watch even just this episode isolated, you think Erica was the star and Sutton
43:25
was number two. Yeah, and Kyle was like a friend of Yeah,
43:30
I think I was a friend of And I don't know. I mean,
43:31
I don't know what month they were there, but I'm imagining she was probably
43:36
so mentally somewhere else right totally. And then also she's not drinking, so
43:40
she's not even able to kind of like, you know how sometimes if you've
43:45
had a cocktail or too, like you can kind of forget about the heaviness
43:47
in your life and just have fun or whatever. And I feel like,
43:50
because she doesn't have that, she's just in her head totally. I am
43:54
okay with that, because I think that Kyle's been a heavy hitter on this
43:58
show for so long, and sometimes I feel like the cast can have revolving
44:01
doors when someone just exits and lets the others kind of go around for a
44:06
little while because they need a little reprieve and the break. Yeah, and
44:08
I'm okay with that. But you're so right on that wild conversation that that
44:16
Garcel brought up about Derete, she and Durite and the issues that they have,
44:21
and that they were able to kind of come back together. I wasn't
44:24
sure if they would, so, uh, I'm curious what your thoughts were
44:31
on Deurite saying, you know, you called me a Karen and then explaining
44:36
that her character isn't the way that she thinks it is, and then talking
44:39
about her you know, having an Israeli background and that she had she grew
44:45
up at, having so many anti Semitic Semitic remarks in her community and relating
44:50
that with Garcel and wanting to be open to her triggers. But also please
44:55
recognize that I'm not really the person you think I am. What were your
45:00
thoughts on that? Well? I was really glad to see that the show
45:05
edited edited it in a way that didn't like make Derete sound you know,
45:14
stupid by saying this or because the way that they ed edit the show really
45:19
makes a difference in how people's approach. So the fact that they took,
45:22
you know, pictures of her growing up and kind of like soft in the
45:27
scene and put on some music music. It goes to show that they were
45:30
they were showing a side of dereit that people should give her a little bit
45:35
of a break. Now, I obviously I'm biased here. I'm Jewish and
45:38
growing up. You know, I'm lucky I lived in Los Angeles, I
45:42
lived in a very Jewish heavy neighborhood. But but I mean, you'd be
45:47
blind to not know that anti Semitism is a real thing. And this was
45:51
shot way before this last wave since October. So so I just remember growing
45:59
up and learning about Martin Luther King, right, and learning as a Jewish
46:02
person, Martin Luther King really really supported the Jews because what a lot of
46:08
times people don't understand is, yes, the color of your skin is if
46:13
you're African American, if you're black, the color of your skin is different,
46:15
and Jews are not right. So there is a little bit of a
46:19
disconnect there, but both are heavily persecuted minorities in different ways, and so
46:24
there was always, I thought, a very strong connection and we should be
46:30
sensitive to each other's paths. It's different, it's a different path, but
46:32
they're both similar in that way. I liked it. I thought it was
46:36
a good scene. I'm happy that Garcel gave that like weight and she didn't
46:40
immediately say, oh my god, it's not the same shut up you know.
46:45
Yes, I think that she embraced her, she accepted what she was
46:51
sharing. And not only that, but she was like, I'd love to
46:53
learn more about you. And I thought it was it was a really beautiful
46:59
scene and just like you. When Garcel spoke to her, meaning like you
47:07
have a sheltered life and you don't understand the walk that I've had to walk.
47:12
And then Durree telling her story, I thought that when she started talking,
47:17
She's like, yes, but what you have to understand? I'm like,
47:21
oh fuck, you know, like you're not doing this. I didn't
47:27
know where she was going, you know what I mean. I didn't know
47:29
what she was going to say. And if I if they edited out that
47:34
music and put in another like a goofy, I would you know what I
47:38
mean? I'm like they it was all in the editing too, Donna.
47:42
I was like, they could have done her so wrong, and yet they
47:45
did respect both of them in that moment and and I thought that was great,
47:50
so me too. I thought it was handled very well. It was
47:54
we are you know, we we do have to kind of like wrap up
47:59
in a minut or two. But I want to say that I did love
48:02
this shopping, this three minute shopping trip that they had to take because they
48:08
sutt and it was like on this schedule, and then they land in this
48:13
store that's got like antique fans and it was like one of those what do
48:16
you call supermarket sweep or something. It was like supermarket sweep Bcealona. That's
48:22
why I got. I enjoyed it because it felt like that. It was
48:24
like, come on, come on, get it, get the most expensive
48:27
items, get the most expensive yea, I'm Barcelona's sweep. I loved it.
48:32
Wait, why aren't we watching supermarket sweep on the regular now? No?
48:36
I don't know, I don't. I don't have it. I don't
48:37
want to make the time. I don't want to make the time. I
48:40
feel like it'll make my blood pressure go up. And you know, I've
48:43
learned a Crystal, she's not allowed to watch that. I won't allow them.
48:46
Crystal needs to stay away from all competition shows. It was, it
48:51
was it was a pretty crazy fun scene, but it was lighthearted and fun.
48:55
Is a lot of the reasons why we like these shows. Yes,
48:58
and to see Kyle will be like, I know, shop anytime or anywhere
49:00
for however long. I got jo it like Lyle only shows energy while she's
49:06
shopping these days. All right, look alive Kyle. It's like something like
49:12
literally, it's like a lightning bolt up her. You know what when she
49:15
goes into a store, She's like, Okay, I'm alive. She does.
49:21
I love that. She was like arimes anywhere is like my compass in
49:24
any city. I something. It's funny, but I loved it. I
49:29
get that she's very rich, and I get that she likes to shop,
49:31
but I always thought Kyle was like not one of those kind of like that's
49:36
a yeah. It felt like out of character for Kyle. I'm like,
49:40
you may like to shop, but I've never heard her throw out labels and
49:44
like be so clear and obvious about her obsession with money. I feel like
49:49
she's been more transparent about it lately because THEO is piecing out and so what's
49:54
filling that void? Oh? No? That whoa wow? Wow, Well
50:02
Morgan was filling that void you know, Morgan and a Arime's bag and the
50:07
Louis What were the Botago Vanetta shoes from last week's episode when she was like,
50:12
oh, these are Morgan shoes. Yes, I love that she likes
50:16
taking Morgan shopping. That is a double void filler for her. Oh big
50:21
time killed frilled now Sutton. The next day, Sutton is crying about her
50:30
ashes, and I love this. I mean, I thought it was so
50:34
you know, authentic and relatable and symbolic of like she said, these ashes
50:39
are symbolizing her father passing merse and also her marriage, you know, and
50:45
it's hard to let go so nice. I was there for her. I
50:51
thought it was beautiful too. I love seeing the side of Sutton. Sutton's
50:54
having an amazing season. I mean, she to me is really like,
50:58
I want to watch a documentary about Sutton's early life. I want to read
51:00
a book. I want to watch like I want to watch Emily in Paris
51:05
of Sutton in Brooklyn. Like, I just I'm so interested in her life.
51:09
I just find her life fascinating. But her crying about that, Now,
51:15
one thing did happen in the midst of the crying, and she did
51:19
say one thing that. I don't know. I didn't rewind it because I
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didn't care that much. But I feel like she said I had my dad's
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ashes, but I moved so many times so I lost them. Oh is
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that not true? Nice where she lost her dad's ashes? Yeah, she
51:38
might have. You know, merce is in the purse merse is very very
51:45
taken care of. Dad really just got thrown around there. He's in a
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uaul somewhere. Yeah, he's he's in like Tory Spelling's like storage unit,
51:55
but he's in Candy Spelling lift wrapping room. Let's be Oh. Oh,
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that's where I want to be. That's my will me too. I would
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actually be in Kim Kardashians storage because I saw one video of that and I
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almost died. What's happening over there? I think, you know, look
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sudden. Maybe there was a lot of guilt also in that, you know
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that, like I lost my dad's ashes. Whatever. But did you see
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the preview for next week when she actually releases the ashes? Oh my god,
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yes, it's like and it's like replaying when Sonya, you know,
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let gover dogs ashes, right, and then they all land out ashes ever
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go into the water. I don't know. I think they always just go
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up. They do because that's where they want to go. And then I
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think the last thing in the preview was like, oh, they're all over
52:43
Crystal's back, poor Crystal or blood press. My doctor told me no alcohol
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or ashes. And next week looks like we're gonna get a little bit more
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into Kyle's marriage finally, Yes, so that'll be good. That's why we're
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watching. That is why we're watching. Let me just tell you, guys,
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