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S1E21 - 'The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters' · Dished at Birth

• 0:00
  KARA: So, guys, I'm on the battle to get new Cochlear
• 0:02
  implants. And this has been going on for a while.
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  DANI: Yeah. Pretty much the whole time we've been doing
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  the pod, I feel.
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  KARA: Pretty much. But I have to submit
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  a new request this year because I'm now on my
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  wife's insurance rather than my old work insurance.
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  And also things have changed because the warranty
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  has finally expired. And my current Cochlear
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  implants are now considered obsolete. Which is
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  great because that means the new insurance will
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  be more likely to approve it.
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  DANI: But does it feel
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  great for them to say the tech that your body
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  depends on is obsolete now?
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  KARA: Yeah. I'm like, wow,
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  it's that old, huh?
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: Thanks, guys. Maybe
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  you should have given it to me before it went
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  obsolete.
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  DANI: What an idea.
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  KARA: Crazy. So when you get
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  new Cochlear implants, usually what you do is
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  you can either self pay or pay fully out of
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  pocket, which is like $20,000 if you have the
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  money. Yeah. Or you can submit and then get
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  reimbursed through your insurance and whatnot.
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  And you're submitted through Cochlear. And then
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  Cochlear has a representative that works with
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  you personally and then also works with insurance.
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  DANI: Okay. So in theory, it should be a smoother process
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  because of that person.
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  KARA: Yes, but you also need
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  to get letters from your ENT and then also your
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  audiologist proving that you are still deaf and
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  that you still need them.
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  DANI: Just in case a medical
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  miracle happened. God intervened and decided
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  to change your entire life.
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  KARA: Exactly.
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  DANI: Happens
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  all the time.
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  KARA: Remember, I got my first surgery
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  when I was five on my right ear and the second
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  when I was 16 on my left. So I get an email from
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  Cochlear, the Cochlear representative, and they
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  go, you submitted two requests, your right ear
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  and your left ear, but you don't have a left
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  implant. And I go, yes, I do. You put it in my
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  head. And they go, we have no record of that.
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  And I go, but it's in there. And they say, do
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  you have the serial number? And I give them the
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  serial number for the external processor.
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  DANI: Right,
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  the part that's not inside of your head.
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  KARA: The
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  part that's not inside my head. And they said,
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  no, no, no, no, no. We need the internal processor.
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  The one that's inside my skull.
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  DANI: Oh, yeah. Let
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  me just pull that right out for you. Yeah, let
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  me just cut my head open and get that. And I
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  was like, so I don't have that. And why would
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  I have that? I was 16 when I had it. So I asked
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  my mom. My mom's like, don't have that. I looked
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  everywhere. I'm so sorry. I asked my audiologist.
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  She also said, don't have that.
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  DANI: I don't feel
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  that would be standard procedure either. Like,
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  certainly there's a serial number on my IUD that's
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  inside of me right now. Why would I know what
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  it was?
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  KARA: Why would I have that?
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  DANI: Who would have
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  told me that information?
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  KARA: Right. So I called
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  the children's hospital where I had the surgery
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  X amount of years ago. And I get the front desk
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  for the ENT surgeon I had. The front desk
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  person was very nice and she looked everywhere.
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  She really tried. And she was like, we don't
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  have it. And she explained the process. She was
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  like, the equipment comes straight from Cochlear.
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  They enter that data into the system. The processor
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  goes straight to the OR and then into your head.
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  There's no handling of it because it has to be
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  sterile.
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  DANI: Right.
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  KARA: And I was like, that makes complete
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  sense.
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  DANI: And your doctor's not like, let me check
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  the serial number real quick.
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  KARA: No, she's like,
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  I'm going to put it in her head and make sure
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  it works. Yeah. And she was like, but Cochlear
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  should have it. And I was like, honey, that is
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  why I'm here. Help me.
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  DANI: This feels like a job
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  for the person that's supposed to liaison, too.
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  KARA: Like, they should be digging into my records.
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  DANI: Yeah. This doesn't feel like your job.
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  KARA: I know.
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  DANI: The irony also of just like being like you, a
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  deaf person, can you just hop on the phone like
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  a bunch today and call all these people? And
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  it's like, okay, well, me making those calls
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  should be proof that you put an implant in my
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  head.
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  KARA: Literally. I'm speaking to you through
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  the Bluetooth.
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  DANI: Wow.
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  KARA: Yeah. I was on the phone
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  with Cochlear for two hours on hold and then
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  I hung up.
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  DANI: Jesus.
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  KARA: Two hours. I don't know. It
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  feels insane to have this piece of equipment
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  in my body.
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  DANI: That you don't have to, like, argue.
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  KARA: That I have to argue that I have one. And then,
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  yeah, also get it upgraded. It just, yeah. My
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  body is, my body belongs to a corporation.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: It belongs to Cochlear Americas.
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  DANI: Well, hey,
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  we're both women. All of our bodies belong to
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  corporations, in a sense. But yours doubly so.
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  KARA: As of 2015 to 2022, approximately over 170,000
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  to over 183,000 people in the U.S. Have received
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  Cochlear implants, including around 65,000 children.
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  DANI: And that range is so wide because they're not
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  keeping very good records.
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  KARA: Exactly.
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  DANI: So that's
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  awesome.
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  KARA: Awesome.
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  DANI: Really cool.
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  KARA: Do you want to
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  get to the show?
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  DANI: Yeah, let's do it.
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  KARA: Speaking
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  of deafness. [CHEERFUL, UPBEAT MUSIC] Season 1, Episode 21, The Sleep
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  of Reason Produces Monsters, which aired March
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  13, 2012.
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  DANI: I have to look up the painting.
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  KARA: It's
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  by Francisco Goya.
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  DANI: Oh. Oh, I like that.
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  KARA: It's
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  cool, isn't it? It's a person sleeping, I think,
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  at their desk.
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  DANI: Is this an etching?
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  KARA: It's an aquatint,
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  which is like a kind of etch print.
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  DANI: Okay, cool.
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  KARA: So I did a little Googling about it, and basically
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  this was during the Enlightenment time. And Spain
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  was kind of behind. They were like very anti
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  -intellectual. It was a critique of Spanish society
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  at the time. Because he was saying, you know,
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  the abundance of imagination without reason or
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  logic will produce monsters. And then relating
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  to the show, the sleep of reason is Emmett and
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  Simone sleeping with each other. And that creates
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  unfortunate consequences.
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  DANI: Dude, watching them
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  hook up just in the recap, like previously on
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  Switched at Birth, I had to avert my eyes. It's
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  hard to look at. Anyway, episode opens. Here
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  comes Daphne.
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  KARA: We're still at the hotel post -game.
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  DANI: It's the morning after.
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  KARA: Daphne knocks on the
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  door to Simone's room and is like, hey, good
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  morning. Sorry for accusing you of trying to
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  get me kicked out of the game. Do you want to
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  get breakfast?
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  DANI: I can't believe she's just like...
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  Let's put it all behind us. Yes, you were mad
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  at Simone about that, but more so it was about
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  the watch and the racism and the finding out
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  that she bullied that girl out of school in eighth
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  grade.
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  KARA: Simone is an awful friend, regardless.
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  DANI: Just
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  because she didn't do this one awful thing that
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  you thought she did after you were already mad
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  at her.
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  KARA: Does that negate everything she's done?
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  DANI: Apparently to Daphne it does. She has like the
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  memory of a goldfish. I don't know.
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  KARA: I guess so.
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  DANI: Well, she doesn't have any girlfriends. She's
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  desperate.
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  KARA: She is. Simone is like, can't do breakfast.
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  The shower's running. And I like that she said
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  the shower's running because Daphne can't hear
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  the shower. So she just believes her. Simone closes
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  the door and who's behind the door but Emmett panicking.
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  DANI: He looks so scared. He's like, I gotta go. And
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  she's like, I don't understand what you're saying,
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  but you gotta go.
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  KARA: Very clear what he's saying.
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  DANI: I know.
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  KARA: Again, he's a very clear signer.
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  DANI: He's
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  so clear. But he's such a clear communicator
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  until it counts.
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  KARA: Sure. The two of them scope
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  out the hallway and then Emmett flees.
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  DANI: The way
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  they did that shot so many times, they have Simone
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  look out and then they have Emmett look out twice.
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  I was like, they're setting him up to get caught
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  right away. Even though I remember that he doesn't,
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  it's like...
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  KARA: I thought Daphne was going to pop
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  by and be like, and another thing.
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  DANI: Yeah. And
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  also, Emmett's like, I got to go and I got to
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  be like smooth and chill about it. He leaves
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  the room without his shoes on. He's like trying.
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  And then stands right next to the door and puts
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  his shoes on. I'm like, nothing about this is
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  subtle if anyone you knew came around the corner.
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  KARA: You should just walk calmly and fast.
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  DANI: Right.
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  KARA: Brisk.
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  DANI: Come out fully clothed, maybe. Just a
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  concept. Just an idea.
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  KARA: I know.
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  DANI: For next time.
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  KARA: Next scene, we're back at the Kennish house.
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  Kathryn is staring at an email that she's afraid
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  to open.
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  DANI: The first chapter of Sarah Lazar's book.
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  KARA: I am so sick of the Sarah Lazar storyline.
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  DANI: Me
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  too, but I am excited watching Kathryn get,
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  like, angry.
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  KARA: That's true. I was satisfied.
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  DANI: And
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  I feel like Bay comes in and gets good advice
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  for her to be like, don't read it. Who cares?
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  Don't let what she's doing affect what you're
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  doing.
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  KARA: Kathryn listens at this moment, but
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  not later. But honestly, good that she reads it.
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  DANI: Yeah, it is good.
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  KARA: For what she finds out later
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  on.
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  DANI: But I think Bay's advice is coming from a
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  good place, too.
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  KARA: Bay's in the kitchen because
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  she has to get a bunch of paper towels.
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  DANI: Oh, I
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  guess she just spilled some paint off screen
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  or whatever.
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  KARA: Yeah, she spilled a bunch of yellow
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  paint. She's cleaning it up. And then Emmett
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  approaches. And he is being so nice to her now.
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  So nice where she's thrown off.
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  DANI: You gotta be
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  more subtle than that.
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  KARA: Yeah, she says, yesterday
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  you were yelling at me.
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  DANI: Yeah, and he's like,
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  anyway, can we get birthday dinner, just the
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  two of us, and, like, make it really chill and
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  nice? And she's like, what the fuck are you talking
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  about?
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  KARA: Whiplash.
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  DANI: Yeah, so she goes straight
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  to Daphne. This was sweet. I'm loving this sisterly
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  bond.
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  DANI: I love it. They're, like, besties right
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  now.
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  KARA: Thank God.
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  DANI: I don't think it lasts, but I'm
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  really enjoying it. Love this part. I also feel
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  for Daphne, though. Thank God she's, like, over
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  Emmett. But her being the go-between, still,
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  that must be so tiring.
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  KARA: Yeah. Bay goes, why is
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  Emmett being nice to me? Again, Emmett has been
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  awful to her for the past few episodes. So she's
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  like, this is strange. Why is my boyfriend being
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  nice to me? Daphne, did you talk to him? Daphne
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  says, I don't know what's going on, but go with
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  it. Also, I'm shopping for a gift for Emmett,
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  and I found a Deafenstein poster in Italian. And
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  Bay goes, Deafenstein again?
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  DANI: She's like, girl,
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  this is getting old.
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  KARA: Yeah. But Daphne rightfully
• 10:00
  says, listen, we have a drought. There's not
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  enough ASL movies. There's only like five ASL
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  horror movies in the past 50 years. And she's
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  right.
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  DANI: Yeah. And then she says it's gotten so
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  bad that Emmett and I were going to write our
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  own. Like, we even came up with a script and
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  everything. And Bay was like, oh, well, let's
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  just do that for his birthday.
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  KARA: And what's it
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  called?
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  DANI: Dawn of the Deaf.
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  KARA: That's kind of fun.
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  DANI: It's good. Yeah. Daphne is like, are you sure?
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  Because we wanted it to be good. Like, we wanted
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  there to be zombies that aren't cheesy. Which
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  is just so funny because I was like, Daphne,
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  have you not seen Deafenstein slash Deafula? Like,
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  they are cheesy.
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  KARA: That's what makes it fun.
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  DANI: That's
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  what makes it fun.
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  KARA: And once they film it, it's
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  kind of cheesy.
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  DANI: Most zombie movies are cheesy.
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  Zombie movies are either terrifying and, in my
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  opinion, not that fun to watch, or they're a
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  little cheesy. And that makes them fun.
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  KARA: Well,
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  Bay's like don't worry, because John and Kathryn
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  will put a buttload of money into this.
• 10:55
  DANI: They
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  love a project.
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  KARA: Next scene, Kathryn is chasing
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  after Regina. And she's like, please, I need
• 11:03
  your involvement in this book. Regina says no.
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  DANI: I think Regina should be more cooperative. She
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  gets there later on in this episode, but I think
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  she should be more cooperative.
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  KARA: It's not even
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  a conversation.
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  DANI: Yeah, I just, I don't, I don't
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  want to be like, Regina, you owe them. But I
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  feel that Kathryn has not kicked you out of
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  the house after you revealed that you knew about
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  the switch and you like fucked up the whole lawsuit,
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  not kicked you out of the house after you allowed
• 11:32
  Angelo back in, even though he ended up being
• 11:35
  really sus, supported you through lots of things.
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  Generally, I just think Kathryn's not your
• 11:43
  enemy.
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  KARA: She's not.
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  DANI: And Kathryn's going to write
• 11:46
  the book either way.
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  KARA: And she's encouraging you
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  to share your side of the story.
• 11:48
  DANI: Yeah, she's
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  like, it would actually be so much better because
• 11:52
  you could do it in your words.
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  KARA: Yeah, whatever.
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  DANIL I think Regina's being ridiculous.
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  KARA: She's always
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  being ridiculous.
• 11:57
  DANI: What's new?
• 11:57
  KARA: Daphne goes up
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  to Toby and she says, you're going to do the
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  movie score.
• 12:02
  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: And he goes, okay, what kind
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  of music are we feeling? And she says, it all
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  sounds the same to me, but I trust you.
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  DANI: Toby's
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  signing is pretty good.
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  KARA: Right.
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  DANI: With the musical
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  terms and stuff. I was like, wow. Go Toby. She
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  says it's all the same to me. Is that true?
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  KARA: Not
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  for me.
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  DANI: Right. Well, and also not to Daphne,
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  who is famously a big fan of music.
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  KARA: She's got
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  magic hearing.
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  DANI: Well, she like has that whole
• 12:26
  CD collection that Bay goes through in the first
• 12:28
  episode.
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  KARA: Right.
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  DANI: She's like, I love the vibrations.
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  Like, these are the things I like. I don't know.
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  I think that the score would still matter to
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  her. I think I can't parse out really. A was playing
• 12:41
  the piano once for me and they were trying to
• 12:43
  explain the difference between a major and a
• 12:45
  minor chord. I couldn't hear the difference. But
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  I can hear when something is like jazzy and upbeat
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  versus like melancholic, you know?
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  DANI: yeah and what
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  he was saying was like, maybe discordant strings
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  or like a really unsettling- I can't remember
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  what other instrumental terms he used. But he
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  was describing very different things.
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  KARA: right
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  DANI: so
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  I was kind of like okay. I don't know. Let's stick
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  to one narrative about Daphne's feelings on music.
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  I think she would have some opinions.
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  KARA: I'm sure
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  there are plenty of deaf people who can't understand
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  the difference, but I feel like Daphne can.
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  DANI: Yeah.
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  KARA: Whatever. Toby, he was like, I heard Simone tried
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  to disqualify you. That sucks. And Daphne was
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  like, nah, it wasn't her. We're good.
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  DANI: I can't
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  believe they're good. Anyway. That must have
• 13:30
  been a crazy breakfast. Continental breakfast
• 13:32
  at the hotel.
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  KARA: You're right. Adrianna's here.
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  DANI: Adrianna.
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  KARA: Finally. She's back. We're at the guest house
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  and Daphne is telling Regina about the movie.
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  Regina is not listening.
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  DANI: No. Regina's not clocking
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  in to her shift at Mom.
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  KARA: At Mom. But Daphne's
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  like, John got costumes already. I think it's
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  been like one day. But they are on it.
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  DANI: I love
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  this. This is also how my parents would have
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  been.
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  KARA: Me too.
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  DANI: I mean, they wouldn't have rented.
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  I mean, actually, later on, they're like, they
• 14:01
  rented a wind machine. It's just a big fan. Like,
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  I also have a big fan like that at my house.
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  KARA: And also a smoke machine. You can get that from
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  your neighbor. It's a Halloween decoration.
• 14:08
  DANI: Yeah.
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  No, my parents would have gone all in if I wanted
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  to do something like this, too. So I loved- I
• 14:15
  loved seeing them be parents.
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  KARA: But then Regina's
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  like, OK, because John and Kathryn are being
• 14:20
  so involved, I can do makeup. And Daphne goes.
• 14:24
  Actually, Kathryn already got a makeup artist, but
• 14:26
  you can do hair. And Adrianna says, I'm gonna
• 14:28
  go swim. I can't believe you losers have never
• 14:31
  swam in this pool.
• 14:31
  DANI: I mean, the pool's so huge
• 14:33
  for Daphne and has been huge. And it's kind of,
• 14:36
  at this point, symbolic of her feeling immersed
• 14:39
  in the family. So I get them being like, she
• 14:43
  hasn't been in the pool yet. But I love the idea
• 14:45
  that Adrianna's swimming, like, all the time.
• 14:48
  Because that's what she implies. She's like,
• 14:50
  I'm gonna go for a dip.
• 14:50
  KARA: As she should.
• 14:50
  DANI: Love that.
• 14:53
  KARA: Now we're in Emmett's room and he is unpacking.
• 14:57
  He just moved back from his dad's house back
• 14:59
  to Melody's. He's unpacking and he's looking
• 15:02
  at the pictures of Bay on his wall.
• 15:02
  DANI: And feeling
• 15:05
  guilt.
• 15:05
  KARA: And feeling immense guilt. Melody comes
• 15:08
  in and checks on him.
• 15:08
  DANI: And she's trying to be
• 15:11
  sweet and make him feel better. And she's making
• 15:14
  him feel so much better.
• 15:14
  KARA: I know. She's like,
• 15:16
  we should do dinner for your birthday and we
• 15:18
  should invite Bay. And he goes, no, we're going
• 15:20
  to do the Dawn of the Deaf movie. And Melody's
• 15:23
  like, well, that's okay. Bay can be invited any
• 15:27
  other time. She's pretty special.
• 15:27
  DANI: I wish that Melody
• 15:29
  had also taken any moment to apologize for her
• 15:33
  energy around Bay at any point which she still
• 15:36
  has not done to Emmett or Regina or Bay.
• 15:36
  KARA: right,
• 15:38
  she has not.
• 15:38
  DANI: she's never apologized. She's just
• 15:41
  like I've changed my mind. It's like okay.
• 15:41
  KARA: she's
• 15:44
  nice
• 15:44
  DANI: yeah thanks girl and also it's like
• 15:47
  she's pretty special because she got involved
• 15:50
  in this custody battle and fixed it for me. Okay.
• 15:52
  KARA: because she brought you back to me.
• 15:52
  DANI: She's trying.
• 15:55
  KARA: She is trying. And then at the Kennish house,
• 15:58
  Kathryn has clearly opened and read the chapter
• 16:01
  against Bay's advice. And in the chapter, she
• 16:05
  discloses that Kathryn had a miscarriage before
• 16:08
  having Bay.
• 16:08
  KARA: Having Daphne, but yes.
• 16:08
  DANI: Well, yeah.
• 16:12
  Information that she realizes John must have
• 16:15
  told Sarah Lazar.
• 16:15
  KARA: Yes.
• 16:15
  DANI: Which is an insane violation.
• 16:20
  So she comes in. She's like, literally, what
• 16:23
  the fuck? She is shouting at him.
• 16:23
  KARA: Yeah. And John
• 16:26
  goes, a lot of couples miscarry. And Kathryn
• 16:29
  goes, that's not the fucking point.
• 16:29
  DANI: No, it's
• 16:31
  not. And also, as much as he can be like, well,
• 16:34
  that happened to us. I was like explaining to
• 16:37
  her something that happened to us. It's really
• 16:40
  mostly about Kathryn. And it's also something
• 16:43
  intimate happening to Kathryn's body.
• 16:43
  KARA: To her
• 16:46
  body. And it's very personal, very traumatic.
• 16:48
  DANI: Yeah. No, John fucked up.
• 16:48
  KARA: He did.
• 16:48
  DANI: Big time.
• 16:48
  KARA: And
• 16:53
  also because he revealed that to Sarah Lazar,
• 16:55
  I think it also reveals that his relationship
• 16:59
  to her must have been much closer than something
• 17:01
  professional.
• 17:01
  DANI: Yeah.
• 17:01
  KARA: If he did disclose this miscarriage
• 17:06
  to her.
• 17:06
  DANI: Yeah. Kathryn's going to tell Regina
• 17:08
  more later in this episode, but basically there's
• 17:11
  just like all these rumors about him and Sarah
• 17:15
  Lazar hooking up.
• 17:15
  KARA: Yeah.
• 17:15
  DANI: And the way he acts about
• 17:19
  her, he's like, Not helping himself.
• 17:19
  KARA: Not at all.
• 17:23
  And Kathryn will give him the silent treatment
• 17:26
  for the rest of the episode.
• 17:26
  DANI: And he deserves
• 17:28
  it.
• 17:28
  KARA: He does.
• 17:28
  DANI: His immediate reaction should have
• 17:31
  been, oh my God, I'm so sorry. You're right.
• 17:34
  I did say that. I was just really upset. Blah,
• 17:37
  blah, blah. Like, he explains later why it happened.
• 17:39
  But for his knee-jerk reaction to be like, what?
• 17:43
  It's not that big of a deal.
• 17:43
  KARA: Yeah. He deserved
• 17:46
  the silent treatment.
• 17:46
  DANI: That sucks.
• 17:46
  KARA: Now we're at
• 17:49
  the guest house.
• 17:49
  DANI: Yeah.
• 17:49
  KARA: Wilke's over. Daphne
• 17:52
  is teaching him ASL, specifically the lines for
• 17:55
  the Dawn of the Deaf movie.
• 17:55
  DANI: I know. I got really
• 17:57
  excited at first. I was like, oh, my God. We
• 18:00
  were wrong. He is trying. And then I realized.
• 18:03
  KARA: He's not.
• 18:03
  DANI: He's not. It's just that he wants to
• 18:06
  be in the movie. And if he wants to be in the
• 18:07
  movie, as Daphne says, you have to sign.
• 18:07
  KARA: Right.
• 18:10
  DANI: And so he's learning just the lines for the movie.
• 18:13
  KARA: He is so annoying.
• 18:13
  DANI: At first, he's like got a
• 18:16
  bad attitude about it. And then I feel like when
• 18:18
  he comes back, he's like a little bit more committed.
• 18:21
  KARA: He is.
• 18:21
  DANI: I just think Wilke's not the kind of.
• 18:24
  He's not used to trying in relationships.
• 18:24
  KARA: Or
• 18:27
  at all.
• 18:27
  DANI: Yeah.
• 18:27
  KARA: It doesn't seem like he tries in
• 18:29
  school.
• 18:29
  DANI: No.
• 18:29
  KARA: Or anything.
• 18:29
  DANI: So in that regard, I
• 18:32
  think being with Daphne is good for him.
• 18:32
  KARA: That's
• 18:35
  true.
• 18:35
  DANI: Because it's forcing him to try stuff out
• 18:37
  of his comfort zone. But I don't think that he's
• 18:40
  good for Daphne.
• 18:40
  KARA: I agree. I also like this part
• 18:43
  because it's a nice informative piece about
• 18:45
  ASL for the viewers. The line she's trying to
• 18:48
  teach him is, are you a student? But the way
• 18:51
  you would sign that in ASL is STUDENT YOU. And then
• 18:55
  when you do yes or no questions, your eyebrows
• 18:57
  are up. But then when you do who, what, where,
• 19:01
  when, why questions, your eyebrows go down. And
• 19:05
  Wilke's like, why are we doing it like we're
• 19:08
  Yoda? And Daphne explains it. ASL order usually
• 19:12
  goes topic, subject, object, then verb.
• 19:12
  DANI: It is
• 19:15
  the hardest part of the language to me. It does
• 19:18
  not make sense to my brain.
• 19:18
  KARA: The order is a little
• 19:20
  confusing. But she's right. And it was nice to
• 19:22
  share to the viewers.
• 19:22
  DANI: Yeah, absolutely.
• 19:22
  KARA: Because
• 19:25
  Daphne, for the most part, and everyone else
• 19:29
  pretty much, they're simcomming, but they're
• 19:31
  also doing Signed Exact English rather than true
• 19:33
  ASL.
• 19:33
  DANI: Because they're simcomming.
• 19:33
  KARA: Because they're
• 19:36
  simcomming. But even when Daphne signs like to
• 19:40
  Emmett, no simcomming. She does sign Signed Exact
• 19:44
  English or SEE instead of true ASL with that
• 19:48
  grammatical structure. I don't know.
• 19:48
  DANI: It's a bit
• 19:51
  bothersome that they don't... Because there are
• 19:54
  people that use SEE.
• 19:54
  KARA: Yeah, I do most of the
• 19:57
  time.
• 19:57
  DANI: It's not right. It's like a different...
• 20:01
  KARA: It's just a different grammatical structure,
• 20:03
  but it's still the sign language.
• 20:03
  DANI: It's just not
• 20:05
  ASL grammar structure. I wish they'd added like...
• 20:09
  Two more lines to clarify that, you know?
• 20:09
  KARA: I know.
• 20:12
  DANI: Because I think, like, I mean, it's because Wilke
• 20:14
  doesn't know. But let's say Wilke does know
• 20:17
  and could be like, I don't understand. This isn't
• 20:19
  the way you've been teaching me. For her to be
• 20:22
  like, well, we're doing the film in ASL, but
• 20:26
  I typically communicate in SEE because that's
• 20:30
  what's easier for my mom and my grandma and all
• 20:33
  these people in my life.
• 20:33
  KARA: That's a good point.
• 20:35
  DANI: That I feel like could have been illuminating.
• 20:37
  I do remember being 12 and, like, not understanding
• 20:40
  why, you know?
• 20:40
  KARA: It would have been nice for her
• 20:43
  to just elaborate a little bit more.
• 20:43
  DANI: Just a little
• 20:45
  bit.
• 20:45
  KARA: And also maybe give some more lines that
• 20:48
  Wilke had to say. While Wilke takes a little
• 20:50
  signing break, he looks around the guest house
• 20:52
  and he goes, you know, Toby and I, when we were
• 20:55
  kids, we used to hide out here and then make
• 20:58
  Bay go get us cookies. And another life that
• 21:00
  would have been you getting us cookies. It's
• 21:03
  a cute line.
• 21:03
  DANI: It's really nice, but it does, unfortunately,
• 21:06
  spark. The start of Daphne's spiral crisis that
• 21:10
  happens throughout this episode. Throughout this
• 21:12
  episode, Daphne's, it's important to note that
• 21:14
  she is like very quietly.
• 21:14
  KARA: Wistfully.
• 21:14
  DANI: Yeah, sort
• 21:18
  of going through this like yearning and sadness
• 21:22
  as she's exploring new parts of the Kennish grounds.
• 21:26
  Because the next scene, her and Emmett are like
• 21:29
  scouting shooting locations on the property.
• 21:32
  KARA: They must own like 10 acres.
• 21:32
  DANI: Yeah, because they're
• 21:35
  in a part of the...the yard that we've never
• 21:37
  seen, but also it seems like they've never seen
• 21:40
  because we're next to an aviary.
• 21:40
  KARA: Daphne goes,
• 21:44
  I've lived here for months and I've never seen
• 21:47
  this.
• 21:47
  DANI: Yeah, it's like a huge birdcage. And Kathryn
• 21:51
  is pulling decor out of like a storage shed that
• 21:55
  we've also never seen.
• 21:55
  KARA: Yes.
• 21:55
  DANI: And she's like, look
• 21:58
  at all this, these like Halloween decorations
• 22:01
  that we can use, whatever.
• 22:01
  KARA: She pulls out a little
• 22:03
  grave, a little prop grave. She's so excited.
• 22:07
  DANI: This is the way parents should be.
• 22:07
  KARA: I know.
• 22:07
  DANI: Supporting
• 22:10
  their child's creativity.
• 22:10
  KARA: Regina, where are you?
• 22:12
  DANI: Literally. Well, she's like pouting because she
• 22:15
  can't provide this for Daphne, but she literally
• 22:18
  could. And she helps out later. Like, I don't
• 22:20
  know. She's pouting for no reason. Or she has
• 22:22
  her reasons, but I don't like her.
• 22:22
  KARA: I also want
• 22:25
  to add that while Daphne and Emmett are walking
• 22:28
  down the grounds, they're discussing like the
• 22:31
  pacing and the script and whatnot.
• 22:31
  DANI: Yeah.
• 22:31
  KARA: And
• 22:33
  Emmett makes a fun allusion. He says, in the
• 22:36
  story, I'll be doomed once Bay realizes I'm a
• 22:39
  monster.
• 22:39
  DANI: Yeah, there's a lot of that.
• 22:39
  KARA: It's great.
• 22:43
  Yeah, but then they find the aviary. Well, they
• 22:45
  find this house and like, what the hell is that?
• 22:47
  DANI: Yeah.
• 22:47
  KARA: And Kathryn goes, that's an aviary. But
• 22:50
  we never turned it into an aviary because when
• 22:52
  Bay was little, she didn't want us to imprison the
• 22:55
  birds. So it just turned into a playhouse.
• 22:55
  DANI: Daphne
• 22:57
  looks down and Bay and Toby's handprints are
• 23:01
  in the concrete laid around the aviary.
• 23:01
  KARA: Yes,
• 23:05
  it's from June 16th, 2000. So Bay and Daphne
• 23:09
  must have been four at the time. But then Daphne
• 23:12
  incorrectly says, so Bay was five? And Kathryn
• 23:15
  says yes. That's not true, they were four years
• 23:17
  and seven months.
• 23:17
  DANI: I love that you paused it to
• 23:19
  look it up. I did not pay attention to
• 23:22
  the date.
• 23:22
  KARA: basically, you see Daphne sadly looking
• 23:25
  at this, reflecting at the childhood she was supposed
• 23:27
  to have. Those are supposed to be her hands
• 23:29
  on the cement
• 23:29
  DANI: yeah. This is the- yeah it's like
• 23:32
  the first time in a minute I feel that- I guess
• 23:34
  she was so worried about basketball and stuff
• 23:36
  she didn't really have time for like an identity
• 23:39
  crisis but it's coming out.
• 23:39
  KARA: no one's processing
• 23:42
  this
• 23:42
  DANI: yeah. This also seeing all of the grounds
• 23:45
  and stuff made me re-look-up like where were
• 23:48
  they filming and just reminded that all of the
• 23:52
  sets were in a studio lot in Santa Clarita that
• 23:55
  I have also worked at as a background actor.
• 23:58
  KARA: oh fun!
• 23:58
  DANI: I was like oh wow that's cool. I wonder
• 24:01
  if they're still there. They definitely aren't.
• 24:03
  KARA: Now we're in the kitchen and Kathryn was on
• 24:06
  the phone with Craig Tebbe, the lawyer. Apparently
• 24:08
  Angelo left some belongings in the storage locker
• 24:11
  in the basement of his apartment building. And
• 24:14
  he recommends that they go see it along with
• 24:17
  the private investigator. And John says, well,
• 24:20
  Regina should go. She like knew him the best
• 24:23
  and she could find out something that maybe we
• 24:25
  couldn't.
• 24:25
  DANI: I do feel like everyone's acting like
• 24:27
  Angelo's dead. Like the way they're speaking
• 24:30
  about him and stuff.
• 24:30
  KARA: Well, he has been...
• 24:30
  DANI: I know
• 24:33
  he's missing, but they don't actually think he's
• 24:35
  dead.
• 24:35
  KARA: They do speak like he's dead. You're right.
• 24:38
  DANI: Dead to them, I guess.
• 24:38
  KARA: Yeah. Bay is asking a
• 24:41
  Buckner kid now for the video equipment. And
• 24:45
  she's like, I really need the camera. It's for
• 24:47
  a zombie movie I'm making. And then this is where
• 24:50
  we get the Twilight reference.
• 24:50
  DANI: Twilight reference.
• 24:52
  KARA: Another Twilight reference. And this guy goes,
• 24:55
  why don't you add a brooding vampire and an oversexed
• 24:58
  werewolf? Then you can hit all three horror cliches
• 25:01
  at once. But he's basically like, no, you haven't
• 25:04
  even taken Media Studies I, so you can't have
• 25:07
  the camera. And even if you did, it's already
• 25:09
  checked out by Simone Sinclair. Cut to next scene.
• 25:12
  Bay runs up to Simone in the library again. Everyone's
• 25:16
  yapping in the library. And she's like hi, I
• 25:20
  want to talk to you about something. And Simone
• 25:21
  is shaking in her boots.
• 25:21
  DANI: Simone goes, here? You
• 25:24
  want to talk here? Even if she did know, I feel
• 25:27
  like they would have this confrontation in the
• 25:29
  library. The way they disrespect the library.
• 25:32
  KARA: People are studying there, guys.
• 25:32
  DANI: Yeah, shut
• 25:34
  up.
• 25:34
  KARA: But Bay goes oh, I just want the video stuff.
• 25:37
  We're doing a movie. And Simone immediately is
• 25:39
  like, yes, yes, absolutely. You can have it.
• 25:41
  DANI: Yeah. And then Bay stands up and goes, oh, by
• 25:44
  the way, I heard what happened at the tournament.
• 25:47
  Simone's like, oh, well, listen, here's what
• 25:51
  happened. And Bay's like, relax, you'll win the
• 25:54
  next one. I love this vocal thing that Vanessa
• 25:59
  Marano does for Bay when she's like a little
• 26:02
  uncomfortable she's like Go Bulldogs, like it's
• 26:05
  like very like weird in her throat.
• 26:05
  KARA: it's a scarf.
• 26:08
  DANI: Literally it's her, it's a scarf. Go Bulldogs.
• 26:13
  KARA: Simone is visibly sweating.
• 26:13
  DANI: Yeah. And then, yeah,
• 26:15
  at the Kennish house, everyone is getting zombified.
• 26:19
  KARA: It's movie shoot day.
• 26:19
  DANI: Yeah. It's so 2012.
• 26:19
  KARA: It's
• 26:22
  awesome. It also must be the crack of dawn because
• 26:25
  people keep mentioning how early it is.
• 26:25
  DANI: It's
• 26:28
  the Dawn of the Deaf.
• 26:28
  KARA: That's so true. Adrianna's
• 26:30
  in the movie.
• 26:30
  DANI: Yeah.
• 26:30
  KARA: That's sweet.
• 26:30
  DANI: Love that.
• 26:32
  KARA: I'm glad she got a role. They have a smoke machine.
• 26:34
  They got a wind machine.
• 26:34
  DANI: Again, just a big fan.
• 26:38
  KARA: Just a big fan. John and Wilke are playing guards.
• 26:41
  Regina's doing hair. And Regina looks at the
• 26:44
  wind machine and goes, can't they use actual
• 26:46
  wind? Leave it be.
• 26:46
  DANI: Again, it's just a big fan.
• 26:50
  For that to be her breaking point is so funny.
• 26:53
  KARA: She was annoying the hell out of me.
• 26:53
  DANI: She's being
• 26:56
  so pouty.
• 26:56
  KARA: And then it's time to start filming.
• 26:59
  And then poor Toby does not know how to use this
• 27:02
  equipment. He grabs the camera and he's like,
• 27:05
  it keeps saying standby. I don't know why.
• 27:05
  DANI: Yeah,
• 27:08
  he's not good at it.
• 27:08
  KARA: Yeah. Kathryn is preparing
• 27:12
  a platter of food. So much food for the kids
• 27:17
  in the shoot.
• 27:17
  DANI: this kitchen, when she's like in
• 27:20
  there with the spread in the well, in like the
• 27:22
  dining room area, I feel like we are almost never
• 27:25
  in that room. There were a lot of new angles of
• 27:27
  the Kennish house.
• 27:27
  KARA: yeah it was cool.
• 27:27
  DANI: But it looked
• 27:30
  exactly like my friend Zoe's house.
• 27:30
  KARA: fun.
• 27:30
  DANI: and I
• 27:34
  was like I love that kitchen, and then I was like
• 27:36
  I've kind of been in that kitchen actually.
• 27:36
  KARA: yeah.
• 27:38
  DANI: shout out to Zoe. She does listen.
• 27:38
  KARA: Hi, Zoe. She's
• 27:42
  still giving John the silent treatment.
• 27:42
  DANI: Yeah.
• 27:44
  KARA: And John goes, Kathryn, it just came out. I
• 27:47
  couldn't help it. I don't know if that's just
• 27:49
  something that comes out.
• 27:49
  DANI: I just like don't feel
• 27:51
  sympathy for him.
• 27:51
  KARA: Me neither.
• 27:51
  DANI: I also think they're
• 27:55
  going to spend the rest of this episode arguing
• 27:56
  and we don't really get a resolution on whether
• 27:59
  or not he slept with Sarah Lazar. Like he's always
• 28:01
  just like, I told you I didn't. It's not that
• 28:04
  it doesn't matter that he didn't. But I do think
• 28:07
  the fact that he carried on with a relationship
• 28:11
  that was even able to like spread rumors like
• 28:15
  that.
• 28:15
  KARA: It's quite emotionally intimate.
• 28:15
  DANI: yeah it
• 28:18
  was quite emotionally intimate and also like,
• 28:20
  if your wife is worried that you're sleeping-
• 28:23
  that you are having an affair with this person...
• 28:25
  KARA: maybe back off.
• 28:25
  DANI: maybe back off even if you're
• 28:28
  not. You know?
• 28:28
  KARA: yeah, if it gets to that point.
• 28:31
  DANI: if it's really starting to threaten your
• 28:33
  marriage like, I don't think Kathryn's being
• 28:36
  unreasonable.
• 28:36
  KARA: Me neither.
• 28:36
  DANI: To be like, you were
• 28:38
  having lots of intimate dinners and, like, talks
• 28:41
  about, quote, baseball with this woman. And then
• 28:44
  you told her these intimate details. Obviously,
• 28:47
  this is in the past now. But, like, even how
• 28:50
  he's handling it today, even if he's innocent,
• 28:53
  you're not behaving in a way that makes me want
• 28:56
  to root for you.
• 28:56
  KARA: And Kathryn later says there's
• 28:59
  also the compounded stress of the media and,
• 29:02
  like, the paparazzi talking about these two.
• 29:04
  DANI: Right.
• 29:04
  KARA: So it seems like they were seen together
• 29:06
  a lot, that even the paparazzi was, like...
• 29:06
  DANI: Yeah,
• 29:09
  I guess John is, like, more famous than we think
• 29:12
  he is.
• 29:12
  KARA: He's a famous baseball player.
• 29:12
  DANI: You know
• 29:14
  I don't really care about sports like that, so
• 29:16
  I guess I wouldn't really know the equivalent.
• 29:19
  KARA: Like A-Rod.
• 29:19
  DANI: Yeah, I couldn't recognize him on
• 29:22
  the street. Those are, again, names I know, but
• 29:25
  not, like...
• 29:25
  KARA: But I think.
• 29:25
  DANI: But I understand what
• 29:28
  you're saying.
• 29:28
  KARA: Do you remember like when the
• 29:29
  Tiger Woods cheating scandal came out and that
• 29:32
  was huge?
• 29:32
  DANI: Yes, but I think that was an anomaly.
• 29:35
  Why were we all acting like those were our parents?
• 29:38
  KARA: I know, that was crazy.
• 29:38
  DANI: I was like, he needs
• 29:40
  to be in federal prison.
• 29:40
  KARA: He's the worst person
• 29:42
  ever.
• 29:42
  DANI: I don't know. Yeah, I don't think it helped
• 29:45
  that I was like just young enough that I was
• 29:49
  not sure who was Tiger Woods and who was.
• 29:49
  KARA: The
• 29:52
  girl?
• 29:52
  DANI: No, no, no, no. Like I mixed up Tiger Woods
• 29:56
  and what's his name?
• 29:56
  KARA: Is there another golf player?
• 30:00
  DANI: No, the guy that killed all those people. The
• 30:02
  guy that killed his girlfriend. If the glove
• 30:04
  don't fit.
• 30:04
  KARA: Oh, OJ Simpson?
• 30:04
  DANI: Yes. Because didn't
• 30:09
  OJ play golf?
• 30:09
  KARA: He was a football player.
• 30:09
  DANI: Oh, well,
• 30:12
  see, I don't know. I just I feel like I saw on
• 30:15
  tabloids like stuff about OJ and then stuff
• 30:18
  about Tiger Woods. And my brain, my brain like
• 30:22
  morphed them together. So I was like, I'm not
• 30:25
  actually sure what crime was committed either
• 30:28
  way.
• 30:28
  KARA: Two completely different kinds.
• 30:28
  DANI: I know.
• 30:31
  But in my brain, you know, like, I don't know.
• 30:36
  It's like how I was also really scared of Michael
• 30:38
  Jackson when I was nine. Cause all the paparazzi
• 30:41
  photos of him made him look so scary.
• 30:41
  KARA: Right.
• 30:45
  DANI: And then all the coverage was like, he's dead.
• 30:47
  KARA: I took it so personally when he died. I didn't
• 30:50
  listen to any of his music except Thriller. But
• 30:52
  I remember the day he died.
• 30:52
  DANI: Me too. I remember
• 30:55
  seeing like, well, I guess it was the next day.
• 30:57
  I remember seeing his face like splashed on magazines
• 31:00
  and being like, whoa.
• 31:00
  KARA: Yeah. But also it was scandalous
• 31:03
  because he died from those drugs.
• 31:03
  DANI: Right.
• 31:03
  KARA: Overprescribing.
• 31:07
  DANI: Yeah.
• 31:07
  KARA: I know so much about the OJ Simpson
• 31:10
  case because I used to be really into it.
• 31:10
  DANI: So
• 31:13
  you've watched a lot of documentaries?
• 31:13
  KARA: I have.
• 31:15
  OJ Made in America is really good, guys.
• 31:15
  DANI: I haven't
• 31:18
  seen any documentaries, but I listened to the
• 31:21
  Celebrity Memoir Book Club episode about Kris
• 31:24
  Jenner's memoir. It's a two-parter. I actually
• 31:28
  really recommend it. It's very interesting. But
• 31:31
  obviously she was best friends with his girlfriend.
• 31:34
  KARA: Well, she was married to Robert Kardashian, who...
• 31:37
  DANI: But she was also best friends with OJ's girlfriend.
• 31:39
  KARA: Oh, Nicole Brown Simpson.
• 31:39
  DANI: Yes. Well, wife, I
• 31:42
  guess?
• 31:42
  KARA: Yes.
• 31:42
  DANI: Okay. They were best friends when
• 31:45
  that happened.
• 31:45
  KARA: Yes.
• 31:45
  DANI: And then her and her husband
• 31:48
  were divorced already.
• 31:48
  KARA: Her and Robert Kardashian were
• 31:51
  divorced?
• 31:51
  DANI: Yeah. So imagine your best friend gets
• 31:53
  murdered.
• 31:53
  KARA: And then your ex-husband is representing.
• 31:56
  DANI: And your ex-husband is representing. Yeah.
• 31:56
  KARA: That
• 31:59
  is crazy.
• 31:59
  DANI: I don't know if we can get sued on
• 32:02
  the podcast for being like, OJ did it. But, like,
• 32:04
  obviously OJ did it.
• 32:04
  KARA: He did.
• 32:04
  DANI: Like, everyone knows.
• 32:08
  He even came out with a book called If I Did
• 32:11
  It.
• 32:11
  KARA: If I Did It. And this is how I would do it.
• 32:14
  DANI: That's an insane thing to do. Is he dead?
• 32:14
  KARA: No,
• 32:16
  he's still alive. He's out of prison. Oh, wait.
• 32:19
  Actually.
• 32:19
  DANI: I think he's dead.
• 32:19
  KARA: I think he just
• 32:21
  died. Yeah. He died last year.
• 32:21
  DANI: Aww.
• 32:21
  KARA: That's right.
• 32:25
  DANI: I bet he's smiling up at us right now.
• 32:25
  KARA: Well,
• 32:28
  now he really can't sue us.
• 32:28
  DANI: Good point. Oh my
• 32:30
  God. Phew. Anyway, all that to say, I guess it
• 32:35
  is hard for me to remember that John was, like,
• 32:38
  famous enough. So then, yeah, if I'm Kathryn,
• 32:40
  I'm fucking pissed, dude.
• 32:40
  KARA: Agreed.
• 32:40
  DANI: I'm so pissed.
• 32:44
  Especially now that this woman is writing the
• 32:46
  book. That is so- I feel like- I know she already
• 32:49
  looked into, like, if there would be a lawsuit,
• 32:51
  I would still try to sue. I would still slap
• 32:54
  whatever, like, stupid case on her.
• 32:54
  KARA: Absolutely.
• 32:57
  DANI: Anyway, fuck Sarah Lazar is the point.
• 32:57
  KARA: Yeah.
• 33:00
  Toby is trying to fix the camera. Wilke's like,
• 33:03
  just call Simone. She obviously knows how to
• 33:05
  do this better than you can.
• 33:05
  DANI: And he says, I'm
• 33:07
  kind of on probation since I didn't go to her
• 33:10
  tournament. You're on probation?
• 33:10
  KARA: She should be
• 33:13
  on probation.
• 33:13
  DANI: She should be. Toby's so bad at
• 33:16
  holding a grudge.
• 33:16
  KARA: So is Daphne.
• 33:16
  DANI: The memories
• 33:19
  of a goldfish. I'm telling you.
• 33:19
  KARA: Like brother,
• 33:22
  like sister.
• 33:22
  DANI: Wow. Runs in the family.
• 33:22
  KARA: I guess
• 33:24
  so. Next scene. Kathryn has brought Regina
• 33:27
  to Angelo's storage unit. The private investigator
• 33:31
  opens it and he's like, go have fun. I guess
• 33:33
  he doesn't look. He's an investigator.
• 33:33
  DANI: Regina
• 33:36
  and Kathryn are going through it. Regina is
• 33:38
  clinging to that cup of coffee. She's like, I'm
• 33:40
  not a morning person. Girl, you were already
• 33:42
  up doing the hair.
• 33:42
  KARA: Yeah.
• 33:42
  DANI: Whatever.
• 33:42
  KARA: They're digging
• 33:45
  through boxes and Regina finds a wooden box and
• 33:50
  she opens it. And inside is pictures of Angelo
• 33:53
  with another woman.
• 33:53
  DANI: Every time that actor gets
• 33:56
  a call from Switched at Birth, it's to do a photo
• 33:59
  shoot with some random ass.
• 33:59
  KARA: It's a random white
• 34:02
  woman.
• 34:02
  DANI: Yeah, it's just like some random ass person.
• 34:05
  And they're like, okay, change seven times and
• 34:08
  take these seven photos.
• 34:08
  KARA: Perfect. Thank you.
• 34:10
  That's a wrap. And Regina goes, maybe he went
• 34:13
  to see her. I'm confused. Was he not deported?
• 34:17
  DANI: They don't know.
• 34:17
  KARA: They don't know.
• 34:17
  DANI: No, and Regina's
• 34:20
  called immigration a bunch and they have no record
• 34:23
  of him. But that doesn't mean anything. I know,
• 34:25
  but she's like, I don't know. I mean, Angelo's
• 34:27
  slippery.
• 34:27
  KARA: He's just missing.
• 34:27
  DANI: Yeah, he's just
• 34:30
  missing.
• 34:30
  KARA: Bay and Emmett are messing around on
• 34:34
  the giant, the great lawn.
• 34:34
  DANI: I remember this scene
• 34:38
  of them play fighting so well. It's like burned
• 34:40
  into my memory. They just have so few, this far
• 34:43
  into their relationship, they have so few happy
• 34:45
  moments. And it's very cute. And I really
• 34:48
  had a huge crush on Emmett when I was watching
• 34:51
  this as a kid.
• 34:51
  KARA: This lasts for 10
• 34:54
  seconds.
• 34:54
  DANI: yeah, but it's so cute. They're play fighting
• 34:57
  with the big fake weapons and he takes his
• 35:01
  scythe and he's- scythe, is that how you say it?
• 35:03
  S-C-Y-T-H-E?
• 35:03
  KARA: Scythe?
• 35:03
  DANI: The thing that Death holds canonically.
• 35:10
  KARA: Yes.
• 35:10
  DANI: That weapon.
• 35:10
  KARA: The big sharp weapon.
• 35:10
  DANI: Yeah.
• 35:13
  KARA: They're sword fighting with that.
• 35:13
  DANI: It's a big hook.
• 35:16
  KARA: Yes.
• 35:16
  DANI: And he hooks her and pulls her in and they
• 35:19
  kiss. And then she trips him and they tumble
• 35:22
  down the hill.
• 35:22
  KARA: It's cute.
• 35:22
  DANI: Yeah. And then she's
• 35:26
  like, we should get back to studying our lines.
• 35:28
  And he's like, yeah, the part where we kiss.
• 35:31
  KARA: Ha ha ha.
• 35:31
  DANI: Ha ha ha.
• 35:31
  KARA: But then Toby and Simone
• 35:34
  come in.
• 35:34
  DANI: [GROANS].
• 35:34
  KARA: And Bay is like, oh. Emmett, this
• 35:38
  is Simone. Simone, this is Emmett. Emmett cannot
• 35:41
  even look at Simone.
• 35:41
  DANI: Such a bad liar.
• 35:41
  KARA: Worst birthday
• 35:45
  ever. Today is his birthday.
• 35:45
  DANI: You know what? Sometimes
• 35:48
  you have to face the consequences of your actions.
• 35:51
  KARA: Which Melody's going to say later, thank God.
• 35:53
  DANI: Well, that's actually kind of not what she says.
• 35:55
  KARA: A little bit. She says you have to live with
• 35:57
  this. She didn't say you have to face the consequences.
• 35:59
  DANI: We'll get there. I had feelings.
• 35:59
  KARA: We're back at
• 36:01
  the storage unit. Kathryn is talking to Regina
• 36:04
  again about the book. But she finally says, listen,
• 36:09
  Sarah Lazar is going to...
• 36:09
  DANI: She doesn't even tell
• 36:12
  her that to try to win her over. Like, maybe
• 36:14
  you should have mentioned that, girl.
• 36:14
  KARA: Well, before
• 36:16
  that, she says, I'm mad at John.
• 36:16
  DANI: Yeah.
• 36:16
  KARA: Because Sarah
• 36:19
  Lazar...
• 36:19
  DANI: Because she's trying to make Regina
• 36:21
  feel better about Angelo being with other people.
• 36:23
  KARA: Yeah.
• 36:23
  DANI: And Kathryn's like, I get it. Even the
• 36:27
  idea of John being with someone else is making
• 36:29
  me mad. There's all these rumors about him and
• 36:30
  this reporter. And Regina's like, fuck her. And
• 36:33
  Kathryn's like, yeah, especially because she's
• 36:35
  now writing a book about my life.
• 36:35
  KARA: Regina says,
• 36:39
  as someone who was that woman, I bet Sarah envied
• 36:43
  you. And Kathryn goes, I even went to a plastic
• 36:46
  surgeon. I was so insecure.
• 36:46
  DANI: What do you think
• 36:48
  she was trying to get done?
• 36:48
  KARA: I don't know. Nose?
• 36:51
  The face is perfect.
• 36:51
  DANI: Beautiful. Maybe boobs.
• 36:55
  KARA: I guess.
• 36:55
  DANI: I mean, Sarah Lazar.
• 36:55
  KARA: I didn't look,
• 36:58
  but I believe it.
• 36:58
  DANI: I was looking. They
• 37:00
  were crazy.
• 37:00
  KARA: But then Kathryn's like, Regina,
• 37:03
  Sarah is writing a book about the switch. And
• 37:06
  Regina's like, shit, okay. So I think she's like,
• 37:09
  okay, I'm in.
• 37:09
  DANI: She's coming around.
• 37:09
  KARA: Yeah. Now.
• 37:13
  Toby is filming Bay and Emmett's scene. They're
• 37:16
  doing a scene where Emmett has a wound on his
• 37:19
  arm. It looks like he's just been bitten, but
• 37:21
  it's going to be before he turns into a vampire.
• 37:24
  DANI: Zombie.
• 37:24
  KARA: Zombie. It's before he turns into a zombie.
• 37:27
  And Bay is like a zombie hunter. She finds him
• 37:30
  and is like, oh no, are you injured?
• 37:30
  DANI: Okay. Why
• 37:33
  are they simcomming in Dawn of the Deaf? Why
• 37:36
  is Bay speaking out loud in a silent film? It
• 37:41
  gets to a point.
• 37:41
  KARA: Daphne and Emmett wrote the
• 37:44
  script, so this is their choice.
• 37:44
  DANI: Well, and Daphne
• 37:46
  is like yelling at Wilke earlier, like, you
• 37:49
  have to be able to sign. It's a silent film.
• 37:52
  It's signing only. Bay's not even signing all
• 37:55
  of the words she's saying.
• 37:55
  KARA: No, she's not.
• 37:55
  DANI: She's
• 37:58
  got lines. She's got other lines.
• 37:58
  KARA: She just touches
• 38:01
  her arm and goes, are you hurt?
• 38:01
  DANI: Literally.
• 38:01
  KARA: That's
• 38:04
  it.
• 38:04
  DANI: Anyway. We have to move on from this because
• 38:07
  it's making me mad.
• 38:07
  KARA: We cut the scene and I love
• 38:10
  Kathryn because she jumps in the air and cheers
• 38:12
  after every take.
• 38:12
  DANI: She's so cute.
• 38:12
  KARA: She's so excited.
• 38:15
  And Betty's like, Mom, you have to stop doing
• 38:18
  that after every take. And she's like, but it's
• 38:20
  so fun.
• 38:20
  DANI: She's a cheerleader.
• 38:20
  KARA: Simone is in this
• 38:23
  room. Everyone is in this room. Toby is like.
• 38:26
  I don't know how to use a camera.
• 38:26
  DANI: I like how
• 38:28
  useless he is in this episode, honestly.
• 38:28
  KARA: And
• 38:31
  then Simone says, we can create a backup file,
• 38:33
  which I think you should have done in the first
• 38:34
  place, but okay. But then Toby's like, okay,
• 38:37
  so you know way more about cameras than I do.
• 38:39
  So you will be our new camera operator. Thank you.
• 38:41
  DANI: She just gets trapped into it.
• 38:41
  KARA: Yeah, basically.
• 38:44
  DANI: They just like bully her into staying. And then
• 38:46
  Emmett, meanwhile, is like, leave. He's like
• 38:49
  typing out on his phone, like, get out.
• 38:49
  KARA: He types
• 38:52
  on his phone, you have to go, please. And Simone's
• 38:55
  like, I would love to. I personally would love
• 38:58
  to, but I'm being held hostage now. And then
• 39:00
  Emmett is signing, and she's like, I don't know
• 39:02
  what you're talking about.
• 39:02
  DANI: And then Bay comes
• 39:04
  over.
• 39:04
  KARA: And she's like, oh, hey, are you guys chatting?
• 39:07
  Do you want me to interpret? And they're like,
• 39:08
  no.
• 39:08
  DANI: Her sign for interpret was making me mad.
• 39:11
  KARA: What was she doing?
• 39:11
  DANI: She was going like this.
• 39:13
  KARA: Oh, yeah, that's annoying. How would I describe
• 39:15
  it? Well, it's the F hand shapes and the...
• 39:18
  DANI: One moves.
• 39:18
  KARA: Yeah, one moves up and down a little
• 39:21
  bit.
• 39:21
  DANI: One moves and one doesn't.
• 39:21
  KARA: But Bay was doing
• 39:23
  both.
• 39:23
  DANI: It's almost Olympics.
• 39:23
  KARA: She's still learning.
• 39:26
  DANI: I know. It was just like the irony of her being
• 39:29
  like, do you want me to interpret? And doing
• 39:31
  it wrong.
• 39:31
  KARA: Right, exactly. Kathryn is showing
• 39:34
  off the blood that she made.
• 39:34
  DANI: She's so hot and
• 39:38
  cool. I love her so much. Like her being, and
• 39:41
  then Melody being like, put some in my coffee.
• 39:43
  And they're kind of like flirting. It's fun.
• 39:46
  KARA: They're like moms having fun. I just know Kathryn
• 39:48
  like looked up a blog. A mommy blogger about
• 39:51
  how to make chocolate sauce.
• 39:51
  DANI: Yeah, she says the
• 39:53
  secret is chocolate sauce. It should be noted
• 39:56
  throughout this episode, like, Wilke multiple
• 39:57
  times is, like, drinking the blood, basically.
• 40:01
  And Toby's like, what are you doing? And it's
• 40:02
  chocolate sauce.
• 40:02
  KARA: Regina gets an emergency call
• 40:05
  from Geraldo. And he's like, you have to do hair
• 40:08
  for this wedding. Our stylist just canceled.
• 40:10
  And Regina's like, shit, I gotta go. We really
• 40:12
  need the money.
• 40:12
  DANI: I also was like, what? Because
• 40:16
  she's not paying rent.
• 40:16
  KARA: I don't know.
• 40:16
  DANI: Like, how
• 40:19
  badly do you really need the money?
• 40:19
  KARA: That's my
• 40:22
  question. Because all this money to the salon
• 40:25
  was Angelo's.
• 40:25
  DANI: And Adrianna works, too.
• 40:25
  KARA: She's a
• 40:28
  caretaker.
• 40:28
  DANI: Yeah. So they're a two-income home
• 40:32
  with no housing expenses. I just, like, don't
• 40:36
  think I have a firm grasp on Regina's financial
• 40:39
  situation. Maybe it's worse than we thought.
• 40:42
  KARA: They don't tell us, though.
• 40:42
  DANI: No. It's just for
• 40:44
  comparison between her and Kathryn. Like, Kathryn
• 40:47
  spending her whole day being cool mom, throwing
• 40:50
  this huge film shoot for the kids, making fake
• 40:54
  blood, being, like, awesome with all the friends.
• 40:57
  And Regina's literally like, I have to go. I
• 40:59
  have to go work. We really need the money.
• 40:59
  KARA: And
• 41:02
  Daphne's so disappointed.
• 41:02
  DANI: Yeah. She's really
• 41:04
  upset. I understand.
• 41:04
  KARA: Next scene, everyone is
• 41:08
  in their house, getting ready to shoot another
• 41:11
  take. Emmett is frantically texting Simone, basically
• 41:14
  probably saying, you have to leave.
• 41:14
  DANI: Yeah, literally,
• 41:17
  they're like, we got to figure this out, blah,
• 41:20
  blah, blah. Some very incriminating text messages.
• 41:23
  KARA: Also, they saved each other's numbers with the
• 41:26
  contact names.
• 41:26
  DANI: You guys, rookie cheating.
• 41:26
  KARA: Rookie.
• 41:31
  DANI: Do better.
• 41:31
  KARA: I know.
• 41:31
  DANI: If you're going to do bad,
• 41:33
  do better.
• 41:33
  KARA: They're setting up to film in the
• 41:36
  office because Wilke's playing the guard. And
• 41:39
  basically he's going to be like fake texting
• 41:41
  on the phone when Emmett the zombie comes up
• 41:43
  and attacks him. So, but before that, Simone
• 41:47
  places her open phone.
• 41:47
  DANI: Unlocked phone.
• 41:47
  KARA: Open, unlocked
• 41:51
  phone on the desk. And it's like, okay, time
• 41:54
  to film and action. Oh, and Wilke's like, oh,
• 41:57
  I need a phone to like fake text on. And Bay's
• 41:59
  like, oh, just use this random phone that's
• 42:02
  on the desk.
• 42:02
  DANI: Yeah, just use this random pink
• 42:03
  phone.
• 42:03
  KARA: Whatever.
• 42:03
  DANI: It's clearly not. I just mean,
• 42:06
  like...
• 42:06
  KARA: But it's not his. Or it doesn't look
• 42:09
  like it.
• 42:09
  DANI: They've taken a lot of care for some
• 42:10
  of the set dressing, but then the phone looks
• 42:12
  very out of place.
• 42:12
  KARA: It does. But anyways, Wilke
• 42:15
  is, like, fake texting. But then he's not fake
• 42:18
  texting anymore. As he's reading.
• 42:18
  DANI: He's reading
• 42:20
  the camera live in real time the text exchange
• 42:23
  between Emmett and Simone that basically confirms
• 42:26
  that they slept together.
• 42:26
  KARA: Yeah. He turns to Emmett,
• 42:29
  who's still playing a zombie. And then he turns
• 42:32
  to Simone, staring straight at the camera. And
• 42:35
  Daphne's like, what are you doing? Cut. That was
• 42:38
  a great scene, though.
• 42:38
  DANI: great scene.
• 42:38
  KARA: love seeing
• 42:40
  Austin Butler's face change in real time.
• 42:40
  DANI: I think
• 42:44
  he's just like mostly surprised about Emmett. I
• 42:46
  don't think he's shocked about Simone's behavior
• 42:47
  at all.
• 42:47
  KARA: Yeah.
• 42:47
  DANI: The way he looks at Simone.
• 42:47
  KARA: But
• 42:51
  I think he knows so many people are part of this.
• 42:53
  Toby and Bay.
• 42:53
  DANI: Yeah, his best friend and his girlfriend's
• 42:56
  best friend and the drummer of his band and his
• 42:59
  best friend's little sister.
• 42:59
  KARA: Yeah, it's just
• 43:01
  so much. He's like, ah.
• 43:01
  DANI: Yeah, I would be freaked
• 43:04
  out too. And then Emmett goes outside.
• 43:04
  KARA: At the
• 43:07
  maze garden.
• 43:07
  DANI: Yeah.
• 43:07
  KARA: They have a maze garden?
• 43:07
  DANI: I
• 43:10
  guess so. Gorgeous. Gorgeous property.
• 43:10
  KARA: I know.
• 43:14
  DANI: Gorgeous. Stunning.
• 43:14
  KARA: He's sitting alone sad. And
• 43:16
  then Melody comes by.
• 43:16
  DANI: She's trying to have a
• 43:18
  Mom moment.
• 43:18
  KARA: Yeah, and she goes, are you okay?
• 43:21
  DANI: And he does the teenager thing. He's like, fine,
• 43:24
  stop it. And then he's like, I'm not fine.
• 43:24
  KARA: He
• 43:27
  says, stop asking me if I'm okay, which is what
• 43:29
  everyone says when they're really okay.
• 43:29
  DANI: So true.
• 43:32
  KARA: But then he goes, mom, I made a mistake. It was
• 43:35
  with another girl. And now I ruined everything
• 43:38
  with Bay. And Bay doesn't know.
• 43:38
  DANI: Some great acting
• 43:40
  from Marlee Matlin in this scene.
• 43:40
  KARA: She goes, I
• 43:44
  know you've been upset about the custody battle.
• 43:46
  but you know it wasn't Bay's fault. You're going
• 43:48
  to have to live with what you did, but you also
• 43:51
  need to decide if Bay should live with that too.
• 43:53
  If it was truly a mistake and it will never happen
• 43:55
  again, is telling Bay going to help? That's for
• 43:58
  you to decide.
• 43:58
  DANI: How did you feel about this?
• 43:58
  KARA: I
• 44:01
  think Melody's speaking from her perspective
• 44:03
  because I think Cameron cheated on her.
• 44:03
  DANI: Interesting.
• 44:07
  With Olivia?
• 44:07
  KARA: With Olivia. And I think she alludes
• 44:11
  to that in one of the earlier episodes. So I think she
• 44:14
  was kind of like, ignorance is bliss. Look what
• 44:16
  that got me.
• 44:16
  DANI: Yeah. Yeah. I think, I mean, this
• 44:20
  kind of ties back to like, Bay never found out
• 44:23
  about Emmett and Daphne kissing when they had just
• 44:26
  started dating. And I think in that scenario,
• 44:29
  I agree with Melody completely.
• 44:29
  KARA: Yes.
• 44:29
  DANI: Like, Bay
• 44:32
  doesn't need to know about that. It doesn't really
• 44:35
  affect their relationship. I don't feel that
• 44:37
  anything was fundamentally broken there.
• 44:37
  KARA: I agree.
• 44:40
  DANI: I think now having this kind of secret between
• 44:43
  them would destroy the relationship with or without
• 44:47
  Bay knowing, especially because it's someone
• 44:50
  I still think, I think no matter what, I think
• 44:53
  she deserves to know. I think once it gets to
• 44:55
  a place of like sex.
• 44:55
  KARA: Sex and also I think he
• 44:59
  did it as an act of retaliation against Bay.
• 45:02
  DANI: Exactly. And it like changed the whole dynamics
• 45:04
  around that fight. And she's confused by that.
• 45:07
  She deserves to know. But I do think that I could
• 45:10
  see more like I understand where Melody's coming
• 45:12
  from. I think I could be more on her side if
• 45:15
  it was truly a stranger. Like if he had met someone
• 45:19
  completely unrelated to his life and slept with
• 45:22
  them. I think there's a world where he could
• 45:26
  be, like, he could reason his way into, like,
• 45:28
  well, it's never going to happen again and I'm
• 45:30
  not going to say anything. But the fact that
• 45:31
  it's Bay's ex-best friend, Daphne's current
• 45:34
  friend, and Toby's girlfriend.
• 45:34
  KARA: Like, she's very
• 45:37
  intertwined with the Kennishes.
• 45:37
  DANI: There's just
• 45:39
  no world where that doesn't, even, I guess, so
• 45:43
  much of...so much of what's wrong with cheating,
• 45:46
  in my opinion, is the betrayal and making the
• 45:50
  other person feel like a fool or making a fool
• 45:53
  of that other person. And so in a world where
• 45:55
  she's having to look Simone in the face every
• 45:59
  day and Simone knows and Bay doesn't know, that
• 46:03
  itself is, I think, mostly the cruelty of it.
• 46:05
  KARA: That's so true. They go to the same school.
• 46:05
  DANI: Yeah.
• 46:08
  That's the violation. Obviously, there is the
• 46:10
  broken monogamy of it all and that bothers me
• 46:14
  a little bit less than the fact that there are
• 46:18
  so many people involved. It's just this big secret
• 46:21
  like that's gonna be hanging over their relationship
• 46:24
  and to deny her the knowledge of it is like, that's
• 46:28
  what's fucked up I think.
• 46:28
  KARA: I think Melody also knows
• 46:31
  that she cannot tell Emmett what to do.
• 46:31
  DANI: No, I think
• 46:35
  she says the right- she definitely can't tell
• 46:37
  him what to do but I don't know.
• 46:37
  KARA: Because I feel
• 46:39
  like Emmett is never receptive to what his mom
• 46:42
  tells him.
• 46:42
  DANI: No, that's true. But I feel like what
• 46:44
  she ends up saying leads him to make the choices
• 46:47
  he makes later in this episode. And I don't agree
• 46:50
  with that.
• 46:50
  KARA: Which is to not tell Bay.
• 46:50
  DANI: Which is
• 46:51
  to not tell Bay yet. I really thought this episode
• 46:53
  ended with him telling Bay.
• 46:53
  KARA: Me too.
• 46:53
  DANI: But it doesn't.
• 46:56
  KARA: Because it really builds up. And then he's like,
• 46:57
  everything's fine.
• 46:57
  DANI: Yeah.
• 46:57
  KARA: Yeah. You're right.
• 47:00
  Simone now is grabbing a snack. She's eating
• 47:04
  some zombie fingers at the dining room table.
• 47:06
  And Wilke confronts her. And apparently there
• 47:09
  were rumors already that Simone had a boy in
• 47:11
  her room. So this just kind of adds to that.
• 47:14
  But Simone immediately confesses. And she's like,
• 47:17
  it was a mistake. I was sad and I was drunk.
• 47:18
  Please don't tell anyone. And she says, we shouldn't
• 47:21
  blow something out of proportion over something
• 47:23
  that meant nothing. And then Wilke says, but
• 47:25
  Toby is my best friend. And what about Bay? And
• 47:28
  then Simone is begging him. Yeah.
• 47:28
  DANI: I get it. She's
• 47:32
  already the villain.
• 47:32
  KARA: She is. Now we're filming
• 47:34
  the scene where Bay has to shoot Emmett the zombie.
• 47:38
  Emmett plays a great dead guy, I will say. He's
• 47:41
  on the floor, mouth open, eyes open. It's really
• 47:43
  good.
• 47:43
  DANI: Yeah.
• 47:43
  KARA: And that's a wrap.
• 47:43
  DANI: That's a wrap
• 47:46
  on Dawn of the Deaf. I wish we could see it.
• 47:49
  KARA: I know. I wish they would have just added in
• 47:51
  a little post-credits. Or even while the credits
• 47:55
  run. Like, show us the clips that they quote
• 47:57
  filmed. I don't know.
• 47:57
  KARA: That would have been so
• 47:58
  good.
• 47:58
  DANI: That would have been fun.
• 47:58
  KARA: Yeah, while the
• 48:00
  film wraps up, Melody comes in with a cake with
• 48:03
  a zombie hand coming out of the cake.
• 48:03
  DANI: So cute.
• 48:06
  KARA: It's really cute.
• 48:06
  DANI: And then Bay says to Emmett,
• 48:09
  no SimCom for once. Like, it wasn't my idea,
• 48:13
  I promise. Like, so you can sign without speaking.
• 48:17
  KArA: So you can sign. And then Toby's like, Wilke,
• 48:20
  come join us. We're all going to have cake and
• 48:21
  whatnot. And Wilke's like. Sorry, I have homework.
• 48:24
  I need to go. And Toby says, stay, Simone is
• 48:28
  blowing off homework, whatever. And Wilke says,
• 48:30
  well, Simone can get away with it.
• 48:30
  DANI: While that's
• 48:32
  all going down, Daphne's having her own like
• 48:34
  little quiet moment on the grass, taking it all
• 48:38
  in.
• 48:38
  KARA: Sitting outside alone in the dark.
• 48:38
  DANI: Yeah.
• 48:41
  And Regina comes back and she's like, oh, I missed
• 48:46
  it. I missed everything. And Daphne's like, yep,
• 48:49
  you really did.
• 48:49
  KARA: And Regina goes, I'm sorry, I
• 48:52
  couldn't be that mom that gets you the fog machine
• 48:55
  and the big fan and the chocolate blood.
• 48:55
  DANI: Stop
• 48:58
  putting it on Daphne to have to, like, hype you
• 49:01
  up.
• 49:01
  KARA: I know. And Daphne goes, Mom, it's not about
• 49:04
  the money.
• 49:04
  DANI: Yeah, she's like, it's not about the
• 49:06
  stuff. It's like being here and realizing that
• 49:10
  you kind of robbed me of this entire childhood
• 49:13
  I was supposed to have. And she says, like, I
• 49:16
  don't want to be mad at you my whole life. But,
• 49:17
  like, what the fuck am I supposed to do here?
• 49:20
  KARA: Yeah. And she said, it's not that you're a bad
• 49:22
  mom. You're a great mom. And you told me I can
• 49:25
  do anything with my life. But why did you think
• 49:27
  I couldn't handle the switch?
• 49:27
  DANI: Yeah.
• 49:27
  KARA: And Regina
• 49:29
  says, but you were three when the switch happened.
• 49:32
  And Daphne goes, but what about when I was, like,
• 49:35
  five or seven or ten? And Regina says, she kind
• 49:38
  of confesses, like, I don't think I could have
• 49:40
  handled it.
• 49:40
  DANI: And that's totally true.
• 49:40
  KARA: She couldn't
• 49:44
  have.
• 49:44
  DANI: No, she doesn't even like sharing Daphne
• 49:46
  with them now.
• 49:46
  KARA: No. But Daphne, yeah, Daphne says,
• 49:49
  I have been trying to be okay with this, but
• 49:52
  there's so many memories here. Like at the aviary
• 49:55
  and the pool.
• 49:55
  DANI: Yeah, and she's like, all the family
• 49:57
  vacations I could have, I should have been on
• 50:00
  that I wasn't. Like, all the holidays.
• 50:00
  KARA: And Regina
• 50:04
  says, I'm gonna go.
• 50:04
  DANI: Yeah, Regina literally is
• 50:06
  like, All right, I gotta, I, she's definitely
• 50:10
  running away, but I think she's trying to be
• 50:11
  like, I'm going to remove myself from this situation.
• 50:14
  You should go inside and have cake with your
• 50:16
  real family. Like, that's like the way she frames
• 50:18
  it.
• 50:18
  KARA: Kind of.
• 50:18
  DANI: So she dips out.
• 50:18
  KARA: But she doesn't
• 50:21
  let Daphne finish her thoughts.
• 50:21
  DANI: No.
• 50:21
  KARA: It was not
• 50:25
  my favorite.
• 50:25
  DANI: She like, she still can't handle
• 50:27
  it now.
• 50:27
  KARA: No, she can't. Kathryn is in the kitchen
• 50:30
  cleaning up. No one is helping her.
• 50:30
  DANI: But Regina
• 50:32
  comes in and Regina helps, kind of. Yeah, she
• 50:36
  makes a big show of taking plates out of Kathryn's
• 50:38
  hands and putting them in the sink.
• 50:38
  KARA: Okay, great.
• 50:41
  DANI: But Regina's like, I'll do the book. That's what
• 50:43
  she says. Or she's like, I'll help. Like, I'll
• 50:45
  cooperate.
• 50:45
  KARA: Yes.
• 50:45
  DANI: So Kathryn's very happy about
• 50:49
  that. And then Kathryn goes upstairs and is
• 50:52
  like, anyway, fuck you, John. Regina's going
• 50:54
  to help me because she wants me to kick Sarah
• 50:56
  Lazar's ass. And John's like, whoa. And then
• 51:00
  Kathryn's like, and also fuck you. And then
• 51:02
  John is like, I'm going to go sleep downstairs.
• 51:04
  Kind of crazy.
• 51:04
  KARA: As he's going downstairs, he bumps
• 51:07
  into Bay, who's on her way to take Emmett home.
• 51:10
  And Bay asks, is everything okay with you and
• 51:12
  mom? And John says, your mom and I are going
• 51:15
  through something, but it's going to be fine.
• 51:17
  We're committed to each other. And when you're
• 51:18
  committed to each other, you work things out.
• 51:21
  And you can see Bay really internalizing and
• 51:24
  absorbing this.
• 51:24
  DANI: Yeah. And then Regina goes back
• 51:28
  outside. Daphne's sitting on the stairwell. It's
• 51:31
  not that big of a house. I love the way that
• 51:33
  they, like, are somehow missing each other.
• 51:33
  KARA: Yeah.
• 51:35
  DANI: Whatever.
• 51:35
  KARA: They both say they can't sleep, but
• 51:38
  neither of them are wearing PJs.
• 51:38
  DANI: No.
• 51:38
  KARA: No one's
• 51:41
  cozy.
• 51:41
  DANI: No. Yeah, they didn't even try.
• 51:41
  KARA: No.
• 51:41
  DANI: But
• 51:44
  right as they're like, I can't sleep, the song
• 51:47
  that starts.
• 51:47
  KARA: I wrote this. [Kara sings] When you can't sleep,
• 51:50
  when you count sheep.
• 51:50
  DANI: God, it's so on the nose.
• 51:53
  KARA: It's very Love is Blind.
• 51:53
  DANI: It's very Love is Blind.
• 51:56
  Anyway, they're finally like, you know what?
• 51:59
  Let's go for a swim.
• 51:59
  KARA: Let's make our own memories
• 52:01
  on this property.
• 52:01
  DANI: Kind of weird. Again, I don't
• 52:05
  feel that Daphne and Regina aren't the people
• 52:07
  that need to be making memories here. They already
• 52:10
  have memories. That's like the whole point of
• 52:12
  them living here is like Daphne should go swim
• 52:15
  with Kathryn.
• 52:15
  KARA: She should make memories with
• 52:17
  her biological family. She has so many memories
• 52:20
  with Regina.
• 52:20
  DANI: Right. And Regina should go swim
• 52:22
  with Bay or like, you know, like it was kind
• 52:24
  of weird. I think they wanted it to- they wanted
• 52:27
  us to be moved. And I wasn't.
• 52:27
  KARA: I was not moved.
• 52:30
  I also wanted to just add that Regina does a
• 52:33
  cannonball and it's in slow motion.
• 52:33
  DANI: Thank you.
• 52:33
  KARA: That's
• 52:36
  it. Because it was
• 52:38
  hot, too?
• 52:38
  KARA: No.
• 52:38
  DANI: Just because you just wanted to
• 52:41
  make sure.
• 52:41
  KARA: I just thought that was a funny film
• 52:42
  choice.
• 52:42
  DANI: Just for the record.
• 52:42
  KARA: Yeah. Why is it
• 52:44
  in slo-mo? It's funny.
• 52:44
  DANI: It is funny.
• 52:44
  KARA: Thank you.
• 52:47
  But yeah, Bay and Emmett, the car is, like, pulled
• 52:49
  over to the side. They're making out, but you
• 52:51
  can tell he's not. His heart's not in it.
• 52:51
  DANI: No,
• 52:54
  because he keeps flashing back to him sleeping
• 52:57
  with Simone again. Jump scare.
• 52:57
  KARA: And Bay's like what's
• 53:01
  wrong? Did you hate your birthday?
• 53:01
  DANI: she just says
• 53:04
  like one minute you're here and the next you're
• 53:06
  I don't know where. It was honestly when you texted
• 53:10
  me like there's a twilight reference in this
• 53:11
  episode, I thought you were talking about this
• 53:13
  scene because it's very much giving in New Moon
• 53:16
  when Bella and Edward are making out on her birthday
• 53:19
  and he's being weird and she's like what's wrong
• 53:21
  and he won't tell her and then the next day he
• 53:24
  abandons her in the forest.
• 53:24
  KARA: Extremely specific.
• 53:27
  We can get really deep into Twilight references
• 53:29
  if we try.
• 53:29
  DANI: The parallels are just so clear.
• 53:29
  KARA: I
• 53:32
  know.
• 53:32
  DANI: Anyway, he's brooding and she's like, we've
• 53:37
  gotten through everything. Like, what is it?
• 53:40
  KARA: We've gotten through the deaf-hearing thing.
• 53:43
  I don't know if that's something you get through.
• 53:45
  DANI: I know. I think that's an ongoing struggle.
• 53:45
  KARA: As
• 53:48
  someone who's married to a hearing person. The
• 53:50
  Ty thing. We got through the custody thing.
• 53:53
  Oh, my God. They've been through so much.
• 53:53
  DANI: It's
• 53:55
  been like two weeks.
• 53:55
  KARA: We've said, I love you.
• 53:57
  What's left for us to get through? And you can
• 54:00
  see she's really internalizing John's comment
• 54:02
  about commitment.
• 54:02
  DANI: Yeah.
• 54:02
  KARA: She's like, I'm committed.
• 54:05
  DANI: Yeah.
• 54:05
  KARA: Like, I want to get through it with you.
• 54:08
  DANI: She says, either you're with me or you're not.
• 54:10
  KARA: Yeah.
• 54:10
  DANI: And he says, I'm with you. End of episode.
• 54:14
  KARA: It makes it look like he's going to confess.
• 54:17
  DANI: Yeah.
• 54:17
  KARA: Like the music swells, but then it.
• 54:19
  He just says, I'm with you.
• 54:19
  DANI: I think because of
• 54:22
  what his mom said. Like, I think he's like, I
• 54:24
  can keep this from her. But he can't. And I think
• 54:27
  if he had been very clear with Melody, like,
• 54:29
  I slept with Simone, the girl that is here, that
• 54:32
  is friends with Daphne, that is ex-friends with
• 54:35
  Bay, that is dating Toby. I think Melody would
• 54:37
  have been like, dog, yeah, this is done. Like,
• 54:41
  you got to tell her before she finds out some
• 54:43
  other way.
• 54:43
  KARA: That's true. Melody doesn't know who
• 54:45
  Simone is, first of all. And then also Emmett just
• 54:47
  said, I slept with a girl.
• 54:47
  DANI: Yeah. So for all she
• 54:50
  knows, it's a stranger. But I think that her
• 54:53
  advice would have been very different had she
• 54:54
  realized the context. Emmett, what are you doing?
• 54:59
  KARA: I know. Does he later confess to Bay?
• 54:59
  DANI: She finds
• 55:03
  out.
• 55:03
  KARA: I know she finds out, but I just don't remember
• 55:05
  how she finds out.
• 55:05
  DANI: It might be that Simone tells
• 55:08
  Toby. Because Simone is the queen of confessing
• 55:12
  before she gets caught to make herself look better.
• 55:14
  Like, think about the watch situation. I think
• 55:17
  she does exactly what she did with the watch
• 55:19
  with this situation.
• 55:19
  KARA: I'm just trying to rack
• 55:22
  my brain.
• 55:22
  DANI: The next episode is when it happens
• 55:24
  because they're all at like prom or homecoming
• 55:26
  or something. Yeah.
• 55:26
  KARA: I love when they have an
• 55:29
  event. Well, thanks for listening, guys.
• 55:29
  DANI: Oh,
• 55:32
  my God.
• 55:32
  KARA: Jinx.
• 55:32
  DANI: Jinx.
• 55:32
  KARA: Bye.