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90 Day Fiance S12 Episode 7&8: The Ball and Chain and Love is a Work in Progress · 90 Day Book Club

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SPEAKER_01: The 90-day book club is intended for entertainment purposes only and contains adult language.
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SPEAKER_01: Hello everyone and welcome back to the 90-day book club.
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SPEAKER_01: This is a reality TV recap podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: I am your host.
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SPEAKER_01: My name is Jen.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm a romance author and reader.
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SPEAKER_01: I write under the pen name Abby Knox.
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SPEAKER_01: Today I'm recapping episode seven of 90-day fiance, The Ball and Chain, and episode 8, Love is a Work in Progress.
0:51
SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's start with Debbie and Mito.
0:54
SPEAKER_01: We've got a lot to cover, so I'm gonna get into it.
0:57
SPEAKER_01: We pick up where we left off with Mito sitting on the street in his uh generic Mr.
1:04
SPEAKER_01: Pharaoh costume.
1:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, the producer's out there asking him, what's wrong?
1:09
SPEAKER_01: Mito says, I don't know.
1:11
SPEAKER_01: She was frustrated, she was crying.
1:12
SPEAKER_01: The producer asks, What's your plan now?
1:15
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna go home to Egypt.
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SPEAKER_01: Back at the apartment.
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SPEAKER_01: The producer's asking Debbie what happened.
1:20
SPEAKER_01: Makeup is off, pajamas are on, she's sitting on the bed.
1:24
SPEAKER_01: She is very tired and emotional.
1:28
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if she's been drinking, but it's a strong possibility.
1:34
SPEAKER_01: She sounds like she's under the influence of something.
1:37
SPEAKER_01: She's really kind of slurring her words here.
1:40
SPEAKER_01: Debbie says, if you love somebody, you don't throw it in their faces every two days that they left their country for you.
1:48
SPEAKER_01: Uh we cut to Mito uh back at the apartment.
1:51
SPEAKER_01: He's already in his pajama pants, Bucky's t-shirt.
1:56
SPEAKER_01: And I kind of want to see the moment where he went to Bucky's for the first time.
2:01
SPEAKER_01: But he's upset because she questioned his virginity.
2:05
SPEAKER_01: And that's why he told her to shut her mouth.
2:09
SPEAKER_01: He tells production, as far as he's concerned, it's over.
2:13
SPEAKER_01: He adds that she's very jealous of this woman, um, actress, I guess, back in Egypt that keeps showing up on his social media.
2:21
SPEAKER_01: But anyway, he says he's gonna try tomorrow to find a ticket back home because it's late now.
2:27
SPEAKER_01: They cut back to Debbie, who says, I'm not gonna take being called a bitch or being screamed out, screamed at in front of my friends.
2:35
SPEAKER_01: She says, if he wants to go home, he should pack a bag and go.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: She says, Mito got into a mood, and I had a moment where I remembered being married before and feeling so alone.
2:48
SPEAKER_01: She says, I'm not gonna walk alone.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna do that again.
2:53
SPEAKER_01: So she's carrying a lot from some trauma from her past relationships.
3:00
SPEAKER_01: And then we watch the producer go into the bedroom where Mito is wrapped up like a burrito in a fuzzy blanket or like a child.
3:10
SPEAKER_01: He says, if I had the ticket, I would go back to Egypt.
3:14
SPEAKER_01: Um, in her talking head, Debbie says she's so shocked.
3:17
SPEAKER_01: She's not sure how she feels about anything.
3:20
SPEAKER_01: But she says her friends have been checking up on her, so they're gonna meet up with her later.
3:24
SPEAKER_01: She says, I definitely need more time before I speak with him because it's too explosive right now.
3:30
SPEAKER_01: So later, later we see her um going to meet up with Astra.
3:36
SPEAKER_01: And Astra is all of us, and she says, it looked like he was on an audition for a job at the haunted house rather than there to be present for you.
3:47
SPEAKER_01: And it was heartbreaking to see.
3:50
SPEAKER_01: And this is really a heartbreaking conversation, but the charcuterie looks really good at this place.
3:56
SPEAKER_01: In Astra's in the moment, she says, Debbie cannot brush this under the rug.
4:02
SPEAKER_01: She says Debbie has a history of sweeping things under the rug instead of dealing with them.
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SPEAKER_01: And Debbie's already minimizing it.
4:10
SPEAKER_01: She's saying, We've had some great days, but not every day is a great day.
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SPEAKER_01: And Astra says, having a not great day should not result in a toddler meltdown.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: And Debbie cannot argue with that.
4:23
SPEAKER_01: Astra asks her, Do you think he really loves you?
4:26
SPEAKER_01: Debbie says, Right now, I don't know.
4:29
SPEAKER_01: Her friend asks, You have you ever felt like he's using you to get famous?
4:34
SPEAKER_01: And Debbie is convinced he came here for her.
4:39
SPEAKER_01: And Ashra keeps pressing.
4:41
SPEAKER_01: She says, Did he really, though?
4:43
SPEAKER_01: Debbie's like, That's what he says.
4:45
SPEAKER_01: She flat out says, I don't think you can marry this guy, Debbie.
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SPEAKER_01: He showed his ass, and I don't think you can come back from that.
4:54
SPEAKER_01: Debbie says, Yeah, he's gonna have to make some apologies.
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SPEAKER_01: Ashra is such a good friend.
5:01
SPEAKER_01: She tells her, I'm getting strange vibes, Debbie.
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SPEAKER_01: You should send him packing and get him out.
5:10
SPEAKER_01: And that's all we get from Debbie and Meato in these two episodes, seven and eight.
5:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna move on now to Marissa and Edward.
5:20
SPEAKER_01: So Marissa is getting ready for her family to come over.
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SPEAKER_01: And she's breaking everything down for Edward and telling him, don't call my mom mommy.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't hug her, don't pick anybody up.
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SPEAKER_01: So basically, don't be yourself.
5:39
SPEAKER_01: Well, her family gets there and they all kind of hug anyway, and I say kind of because the mom, Joanne, kind of gives a tepid hug.
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SPEAKER_01: The cousin actually seems cool, and she just runs up and gives Edward a big hug immediately.
5:54
SPEAKER_01: And I I like her a lot.
5:56
SPEAKER_01: Marissa is very nervous, and in her interstitial, she says, Edward isn't the typical type of guy my family would pick for me.
6:06
SPEAKER_01: What does that mean?
6:07
SPEAKER_01: What does that mean?
6:10
SPEAKER_01: She says, We're not gonna sit down and eat.
6:13
SPEAKER_01: We're just gonna walk around and mingle, get to know each other.
6:17
SPEAKER_01: Edward makes a joke that I love.
6:20
SPEAKER_01: He says, So everybody's Italian.
6:22
SPEAKER_01: The cousin Carla, the one who gave him a big hug, says, She says, Well, we're Italian, and she points to herself and Marissa and the mom Joanne.
6:32
SPEAKER_01: Um, I guess Joanne says, Well, Bob's not Italian, and Edward points at Bob and says, Well, Bob's Dominican.
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SPEAKER_01: This is very funny.
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SPEAKER_01: He gets a laugh from everybody, but then they cut to Bob's face.
6:45
SPEAKER_01: He sort of gives a very weird half-smile, makes not a single noise or word.
6:52
SPEAKER_01: Marissa points out that Bob also knows a lot about baseball, which Edward does.
6:58
SPEAKER_01: And I think this was a smart thing to say because you're sort of adding on to the funny joke about Bob being Dominican, but also finding some common ground because as we know, Edward loves baseball, and that would be a cool thing.
7:11
SPEAKER_01: And I really wish they would have shown us a moment with Bob and Edward talking about baseball.
7:17
SPEAKER_01: I think that would have helped to humanize her extremely uptight, waspy parents.
7:25
SPEAKER_01: Carla does the actual work of asking Edward questions about himself and about his family, asks about his siblings.
7:34
SPEAKER_01: Edward, we learn, is one of three kids, um, had a single mom.
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SPEAKER_01: Dad is apparently not in the picture.
7:42
SPEAKER_01: At hearing this, Joanne looks over at Edward, which I can only call extreme caution on her face.
7:51
SPEAKER_01: Carla's doing a really good job of making conversation here, and I really like her.
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SPEAKER_01: I would like to see more of her.
7:57
SPEAKER_01: We don't get much more of her, though, in the future episodes.
8:02
SPEAKER_01: Joanne, of course, brings the temperature down in the room by saying, I'm so glad you're here, Edward, but it's not always going to be smooth sailing.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: Everyone goes silent because it is clear Joanne has things to say.
8:20
SPEAKER_01: But then the mom gets a talking head and she says, There's a lot of red flags.
8:27
SPEAKER_01: I don't know him.
8:28
SPEAKER_01: There's an age gap and cultural differences.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: I made it very clear from the beginning that I do not support this.
8:37
SPEAKER_01: He doesn't know yet what he'll do here to make a living.
8:42
SPEAKER_01: And then we cut to her saying, Edward, talk is cheap and we'll see what you're made of.
8:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I do not like this woman.
8:51
SPEAKER_01: I have to say, these things are not red flags.
8:53
SPEAKER_01: An age gap of two, consenting adults is not a red flag.
8:58
SPEAKER_01: Not knowing what you're gonna do for a living once your green card arrives is not a red flag.
9:04
SPEAKER_01: It's just something that he has to figure out yet.
9:06
SPEAKER_01: And I don't think that he's gonna be sitting at home doing nothing.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, cultural differences are also not a red flag, it's just a learning curve.
9:18
SPEAKER_01: So after this, the group splits up and some of them go outside.
9:24
SPEAKER_01: And here, I don't know if anybody else noticed.
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SPEAKER_01: Marissa visibly shrinks when she's sitting outside and her mom is talking and her cousin is listening.
9:34
SPEAKER_01: Did anybody else see this?
9:36
SPEAKER_01: She sort of looks like she's trying to make herself smaller as her mother is talking.
9:44
SPEAKER_01: The mother, Joanne, behaves like someone who's interviewing Edward for a job.
9:50
SPEAKER_01: She says, I don't know enough about you to not like you, but what I do know, I do like, whatever that means.
9:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
9:57
SPEAKER_01: She says, however, people come to America because America is a wonderful place.
10:02
SPEAKER_01: Blah, blah, blah.
10:04
SPEAKER_01: We've heard this a million times.
10:05
SPEAKER_01: And Edward, good for Edward, says, I mean, I sacrificed a lot.
10:09
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I sacrificed my friends, my family so I could come here.
10:15
SPEAKER_01: This is a wonderful country, but I was okay in mine, you know.
10:19
SPEAKER_01: And then Joanne says, What is it about my daughter that is so special to you?
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SPEAKER_01: Again, like a job interview.
10:28
SPEAKER_01: Edward says, I've been through a lot.
10:31
SPEAKER_01: I've learned what I want in relationships.
10:33
SPEAKER_01: I want respect.
10:34
SPEAKER_01: I want loyalty.
10:36
SPEAKER_01: I don't like people lying to me.
10:39
SPEAKER_01: The only person I found with all of these is her.
10:44
SPEAKER_01: And it made me understand that this is my person.
10:48
SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's not the best answer.
10:51
SPEAKER_01: Marissa's not happy with this answer.
10:53
SPEAKER_01: You can see that, and she says so in her talking head, but who cares?
10:57
SPEAKER_01: Who cares that nobody is impressed by this answer?
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SPEAKER_01: This is not a job interview.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, so in episode eight, the infamous uh fence fixing episode, Edward fixes some janky part of her backyard fence, the wooden fence, with some crown molding that he found laying around the house.
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SPEAKER_01: Of course, Marissa is not pleased.
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SPEAKER_01: To be honest, it doesn't look great.
11:29
SPEAKER_01: Once again, I really don't like how Marissa handles this.
11:33
SPEAKER_01: She says it's like having a third child, and that aggravates me.
11:39
SPEAKER_01: And she's complaining about the way it looks, and it does look kind of bad.
11:43
SPEAKER_01: She's like, What are the neighbors gonna think?
11:45
SPEAKER_01: And he says, I don't care, they don't pay my bills.
11:48
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's also my attitude, but she lives in an hoa, so this is definitely gonna be a problem.
11:56
SPEAKER_01: In Marissa's talking head, she says, one thing I need is for him to be a man and start figuring things out and not need me to hold his hand every step of the way.
12:06
SPEAKER_01: Ma'am, you're going to have to do this for a while because everything is different.
12:12
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so in the next scene, she's taking Edward to New York City while she goes to work.
12:18
SPEAKER_01: He forgot his wallet at home and he doesn't have a credit card.
12:23
SPEAKER_01: Marissa's flipping out.
12:25
SPEAKER_01: How would you expect to be alone in the city with no money?
12:29
SPEAKER_01: But this is so obnoxious.
12:31
SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's a problem and he forgot his wallet, but stop at an ATM and get him some cash, okay?
12:37
SPEAKER_01: She says, I don't have the bandwidth to take on one more thing.
12:42
SPEAKER_01: She says in her talking head, his response has always been, Well, okay, we'll figure it out.
12:46
SPEAKER_01: And she says, That's not an appropriate response.
12:52
SPEAKER_01: And to that I say, Yes, it is.
12:54
SPEAKER_01: This is who he is.
12:56
SPEAKER_01: You are with a very laid-back man.
12:59
SPEAKER_01: You are engaged to a lollygagger.
13:03
SPEAKER_01: You are engaged to, I'm gonna say, a type 9 on the Enneogram.
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SPEAKER_01: He wants peace.
13:13
SPEAKER_01: He's relaxed.
13:14
SPEAKER_01: He is he's the guy who says everything's gonna work out.
13:18
SPEAKER_01: He doesn't have a lot of anxiety.
13:20
SPEAKER_01: Because you, Marissa, have enough anxiety for eight people.
13:27
SPEAKER_01: I gotta move on.
13:29
SPEAKER_01: I gotta move on to Shay and Annabelle.
13:32
SPEAKER_01: You know, every time we cut to a scene where Annabelle and Shay are having a disagreement or there's a hard conversation going on, they preface it with this uh slightly spooky cowboy bluegrass gothy music, and I'm into it.
13:54
SPEAKER_01: So Annabelle is back from the spa.
13:57
SPEAKER_01: She comes in, she's like, How are you feeling?
13:59
SPEAKER_01: Are you feeling any better?
14:00
SPEAKER_01: Are you still upset with me?
14:02
SPEAKER_01: Or I mean this dude thinks uh a manicure is gonna fix everything.
14:07
SPEAKER_01: She says, I'm feeling good, I'm feeling better.
14:11
SPEAKER_01: She's guarded, and you can tell.
14:13
SPEAKER_01: He says, You talked with Angie.
14:16
SPEAKER_01: She says, We talked.
14:17
SPEAKER_01: She told me the truth about you and her.
14:19
SPEAKER_01: You understand now, there's nothing going on, right?
14:22
SPEAKER_01: She says, We still have a problem because of Nicole and you need to fix this.
14:27
SPEAKER_01: He says, Well, she pops up, I'll definitely take care of it.
14:31
SPEAKER_01: He says, Hey, by the way, it's football night.
14:34
SPEAKER_01: Some of the guys are calling me.
14:36
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna go watch the game, drink some beers.
14:39
SPEAKER_01: She says, No, I'm tired.
14:41
SPEAKER_01: You're not gonna drink beer tonight.
14:43
SPEAKER_01: You're gonna stay home, drink herbal tea, and do yoga with me.
14:50
SPEAKER_01: The whiplash.
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SPEAKER_01: And he knows.
14:54
SPEAKER_01: He knows if he wants to get laid, he better stay home and do yoga with a fiance.
14:59
SPEAKER_01: He says, Well, I've never done yoga, baby.
15:02
SPEAKER_01: Annabelle says, You need to lose some weight so you can have better sex with me.
15:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm always on top and I do all the work.
15:09
SPEAKER_01: That's just the way I like it.
15:15
SPEAKER_01: Um, so they sit on the floor to do some yoga.
15:19
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's not really yoga.
15:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're not really doing a pose and holding it.
15:24
SPEAKER_01: They're just stretching and deep breathing, which is fine.
15:28
SPEAKER_01: It's just still more than he's ever done, but it's not really like what I would call yoga.
15:33
SPEAKER_01: You know, this man has never sat on the floor past the age of 40.
15:37
SPEAKER_01: She says, wait until I teach you Zumba.
15:41
SPEAKER_01: I've said it before, be careful with that Zumba.
15:43
SPEAKER_01: You're gonna wreck your knees like I wrecked my knees.
15:47
SPEAKER_01: Go slow, Shay.
15:48
SPEAKER_01: If you do the Zumba, do modifications.
15:52
SPEAKER_01: They do him so dirty when he tries to get up off the floor.
15:57
SPEAKER_01: He asks her for help getting up off of the floor, and she gets up and walks away.
16:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh, the next morning, she makes him a smoothie and he actually likes it.
16:12
SPEAKER_01: She says, From now on, you drink smoothies, not beer.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: Um, this is really mean.
16:18
SPEAKER_01: In the shared talking head, Shay says that he told his friends that he's been watching the game at home and drinking smoothies instead of beer.
16:29
SPEAKER_01: And he says, I feel like I lost weight.
16:31
SPEAKER_01: And Annabelle says, What are you talking about?
16:33
SPEAKER_01: It's only been two weeks.
16:37
SPEAKER_01: Lady, even if he's delusional, you need to be nice and encouraging about it.
16:44
SPEAKER_01: She says, Well, I'm gonna get batteries for the scale and I'll prove it.
16:50
SPEAKER_01: Oh, so later on, you meet up with Alison at the grocery store.
16:54
SPEAKER_01: So they're chit-chatting in the produce section.
16:58
SPEAKER_01: Allison brings up the cheating thing that they talked about at the spa.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: The face on her little girl that she's holding in her arms is hilarious.
17:08
SPEAKER_01: She is adorable.
17:10
SPEAKER_01: This little kid looks like, what the heck are you weird old people even talking about?
17:18
SPEAKER_01: And in Allison's talking head, she says, I enjoy poke poking at them.
17:22
SPEAKER_01: He's not being truthful, and she's not asking questions, and there's stuff that needs to be said and done.
17:29
SPEAKER_01: Shay feels bad for Nicole, she doesn't have a lot, and he's just trying to be cordial with her.
17:34
SPEAKER_01: And Annabel says, You're still in love with her.
17:37
SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's an overreaction.
17:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he has a soft spot for Nicole because she doesn't have a lot.
17:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that's right, but I mean, I don't think he's still in love with Nicole.
17:53
SPEAKER_01: Uh, later on, Shay is talking to Allison by the car where they're loading up groceries, and he says, Why you gotta go bringing stuff up?
18:00
SPEAKER_01: She says, You need to talk about stuff, and you avoid it.
18:04
SPEAKER_01: Otherwise known as a shitster, Alison is, because she's not getting the attention she wants.
18:09
SPEAKER_01: So Annabelle wants to see what's in the shed.
18:13
SPEAKER_01: They open it up.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: It's Nicole's chairs, tables, a couch, a little cabinet with clothes in it.
18:18
SPEAKER_01: Annabelle's like, call her now and get rid of it.
18:21
SPEAKER_01: Shay says he's gonna try to sell it for her on like fake a Facebook Marketplace or something, and Annabelle's like, throw it in the dump.
18:29
SPEAKER_01: So she goes over and knocks on Allison's door and she asks her about Nicole.
18:33
SPEAKER_01: Allison says, I hate to be the one to tell you the last four years that you've been engaged.
18:39
SPEAKER_01: They've been hanging out, they've been on the boat, they've been texting, going to bars.
18:45
SPEAKER_01: Allison says he would turn the camera away so you wouldn't see Nicole.
18:49
SPEAKER_01: She says that she's seen Shay say things like, I'll always love you to Nicole.
18:58
SPEAKER_01: And then Annabelle gets a cliffhanger talking head, saying, I can't do this anymore.
19:04
SPEAKER_01: I can't marry this man, he's a liar.
19:08
SPEAKER_01: We will see about that.
19:09
SPEAKER_01: Let's move on to Katie and Josh.
19:14
SPEAKER_01: Thank God this man finally has a desk and a chair to sit in.
19:20
SPEAKER_01: Katie says, Living with someone's harder than I thought it would be.
19:24
SPEAKER_01: He's frustrated with the lack of furniture.
19:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm frustrated with his lack of patience.
19:31
SPEAKER_01: Josh's lack of patience.
19:35
SPEAKER_01: This conversation is so weird.
19:37
SPEAKER_01: They're chatting about the apartment.
19:39
SPEAKER_01: Josh says, I feel like we're in a better place.
19:41
SPEAKER_01: Katie says, I feel like we're in a worse place.
19:44
SPEAKER_01: So she feels that Josh complains too much.
19:47
SPEAKER_01: She says, When I moved to the UK and Europe for a year, I didn't find it to be such a big deal.
19:52
SPEAKER_01: So it's hard for me to empathize with you moving countries.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: Josh says, You went on holiday with a suitcase, and I have no choice.
20:01
SPEAKER_01: I cannot leave here for over a year.
20:03
SPEAKER_01: It's a massive difference being an immigrant in the US.
20:07
SPEAKER_01: Katie's response is I might feel less stressed out if I was in your position.
20:15
SPEAKER_01: Excuse me, what?
20:20
SPEAKER_01: Um they're a shared talking head.
20:23
SPEAKER_01: Josh says, Sometimes you come off as hurtful the things you that you say.
20:31
SPEAKER_01: He says, I feel like I'm putting an effort to understand American ways of being, and you could try to understand British ways.
20:40
SPEAKER_01: Katie's response is we're in America.
20:43
SPEAKER_01: Like total dead face.
20:45
SPEAKER_01: We're in America.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: This is not, I feel like this is not a cultural thing.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: I think this is just her saying really jerky things.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: Also, what is it with these people?
20:55
SPEAKER_01: You want your fiancés coming to the US to adjust immediately, like in 10 days.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: Like adjust right now to the US.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: So anyway, that night they're headed to a bar with her friends for her birthday.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: A bar, do you really think that's a good choice, Katie?
21:17
SPEAKER_01: But um, we find out that someone named Ryan is coming because he's in town for a work thing.
21:24
SPEAKER_01: And she invited him to the party and realizes that maybe she should not have invited him.
21:30
SPEAKER_01: So we get a little bit of a backstory about Ryan and why she's dreading to tell Josh about Ryan coming to the party.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: They met, she met Ryan while running a marathon in Chicago.
21:44
SPEAKER_01: And then they met up in Europe and went on some kind of European road trip together.
21:49
SPEAKER_01: They made out a couple of times.
21:51
SPEAKER_01: The producer asks, Was Josh there?
21:54
SPEAKER_01: She says, Yes, two out of the four times.
21:57
SPEAKER_01: Josh does not want to be anywhere near Ryan.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: And she knows this.
22:01
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, he she invited him to her party anyway.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: As expected, when she tells him he does not take it well, he says, I can't promise I'm not gonna be a bit of a dick.
22:12
SPEAKER_01: Josh says, Katie may be taking advantage of me being nice about things, which feels rotten.
22:18
SPEAKER_01: Oh my boy.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: You need to take a harder look at all of the things you're reacting to or not reacting to, because yeah, she's a hundred percent with you because you're too nice.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: I think she surrounds herself with people who are too nice and are not gonna call her on her bullshit.
22:42
SPEAKER_01: He says, How would you feel if I was partying with other women?
22:46
SPEAKER_01: She says, I'd be jealous in hurt.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: Okay, Katie.
22:53
SPEAKER_01: So they're at the bar, the Twilight Room.
22:56
SPEAKER_01: It looks like a fun little place.
22:59
SPEAKER_01: Very, very hip, very Portland, very intentionally divey, I want to say.
23:11
SPEAKER_01: Not a lot of girls.
23:15
SPEAKER_01: So Ryan shows up.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: Katie is introducing him to people.
23:19
SPEAKER_01: Ryan is physically uncomfortable.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: He calls Katie his whirlwind friend.
23:28
SPEAKER_01: This is why guys like her because she is the definition of manic pixie dream girl.
23:37
SPEAKER_01: She's also the definition of what happens when Manic Pixie Dream Girl backfires and messes up your whole life.
23:48
SPEAKER_01: Ryan says last time they saw each other, they both got too drunk and did inappropriate things, and they did not leave each other in the best place.
23:58
SPEAKER_01: Katie is just hovering and smiling, smiling at Ryan a little too much.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: She does not look at Josh like that.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: Not enough.
24:09
SPEAKER_01: When she hugs Ryan, one of her guy friends there with a beard, who's not named, I don't think.
24:17
SPEAKER_01: He looks at the camera very uncomfortably.
24:21
SPEAKER_01: We have a Jim Helpert moment.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: They are all kind of awkwardly talking separately.
24:29
SPEAKER_01: And we hear her telling her friends, I still crave the party life.
24:33
SPEAKER_01: And we hear Josh somewhere else saying she's got a good heart.
24:35
SPEAKER_01: She's just unpredictable.
24:38
SPEAKER_01: And then Katie forces the three of them to go outside to chat.
24:42
SPEAKER_01: There's they're outside.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: There's a long, awkward pause.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: Katie is just chugging that beer.
24:48
SPEAKER_01: Josh finally says, Uh, to Ryan, what are you doing here?
24:53
SPEAKER_01: Ryan says, Katie and I have had quite a few conversations about what she wants in life.
24:59
SPEAKER_01: Ryan looks at Katie, says, There's a reason that keeps happening, right?
25:02
SPEAKER_01: Do you know what you want in your life?
25:04
SPEAKER_01: She says, I think so.
25:06
SPEAKER_01: Josh says, Well, we're gonna be married.
25:10
SPEAKER_01: So they leave this episode seven in a cliffhanger, and in episode eight, we get an apology from Ryan.
25:16
SPEAKER_01: Ryan says to Josh, I made a big mistake, and I hurt you, and I want to apologize.
25:22
SPEAKER_01: Josh says, I hear a lot of apologies, and I don't know if this is just another apology on a long list.
25:30
SPEAKER_01: Josh is such a victim.
25:35
SPEAKER_01: You knew she was like this when you got engaged.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: But Josh makes it clear to Ryan he's appreciative of the apology and he's willing to leave it in the past, but he's not interested in a friendship with Ryan.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: So I like these dates with clear boundaries.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: Katie pipes up, do you think I can make out with everyone I know?
26:00
SPEAKER_01: Why, because it's your birthday?
26:02
SPEAKER_01: Is this a joke?
26:03
SPEAKER_01: Josh says in his talking head, I'm starting to feel in my gut we're not ready.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think she's been saying this from the beginning.
26:13
SPEAKER_01: Again, we're inside back in the bar, and she is kind of trying to kiss everyone.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: Like, appears to be immediately.
26:26
SPEAKER_01: Well, this is the edit that we get.
26:28
SPEAKER_01: She wants an espresso martini.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: He says, How about a water first?
26:33
SPEAKER_01: She tries to kiss Ryan.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: She tries to kiss Mark, some other guy.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: Ryan is like putting his arms around her to get her to like kind of stay to the side and turning his face away.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: Josh is just standing around, looking uncomfortable, way past the point where I would have marched out and called an Uber.
27:01
SPEAKER_01: At some point, Ryan's having to put his hand on her mouth and push her away.
27:05
SPEAKER_01: It is completely ridiculous.
27:08
SPEAKER_01: Finally, Josh says this is bullshit and walks out.
27:11
SPEAKER_01: She's so drunk.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: She's leaning in super close to Ryan.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: It is so hard to watch.
27:18
SPEAKER_01: You guys, fortunately, Ryan is not drunk and he's not into it.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: Um, blonde Mark follows Josh outside and is like, How you feeling, buddy?
27:30
SPEAKER_01: He says, Surprised, disappointed.
27:33
SPEAKER_01: Why?
27:34
SPEAKER_01: Why are you surprised?
27:35
SPEAKER_01: Why are you disappointed?
27:36
SPEAKER_01: This is par for the course, my man.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: Mark's like, so what is your take on what she's doing right now?
27:46
SPEAKER_01: Mind you, this is the only person who's gone outside to talk to Josh after he stormed out.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: Stormed out is an extreme description of what he did.
27:59
SPEAKER_01: He's like, I worry about you.
28:01
SPEAKER_01: It's okay to be mad.
28:02
SPEAKER_01: You deserve to be respected.
28:04
SPEAKER_01: So we find out in Josh's talking head that he's worried about the blowback of expressing himself.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: So they go back into the bark, and Katie's now targeting Mark.
28:14
SPEAKER_01: He has to physically hold her head back.
28:17
SPEAKER_01: He's like, Katie, you have a fiance.
28:19
SPEAKER_01: At some point, he's holding his hand over her face, and she's like tonguing his hand.
28:28
SPEAKER_01: Okay, we're moving on to Thomas and Paola.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: It is still the same day that they heard the argument that ended with him gluing her perfume shut, and they are going for a little walk.
28:44
SPEAKER_01: Paola tells us that they hung out with other people before when she would come to visit, or when he came to Brazil, and other people were wearing perfume and he never said anything.
28:56
SPEAKER_01: But in his talking head, Thomas says, She's aware of my allergies, but doesn't understand them.
29:04
SPEAKER_01: So on their hike, he's trying to explain like how bad it makes him feel when there's perfume that he can smell, his nose is running, he's congested, his mouth is itchy, he can't focus.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: And I think her point is you are not being a gentleman when we argue.
29:25
SPEAKER_01: It's all really about the tone.
29:27
SPEAKER_01: And isn't that always the thing?
29:29
SPEAKER_01: It's always about the tone.
29:32
SPEAKER_01: And Thomas is not great with tone.
29:36
SPEAKER_01: She loves this man and she wants to make it work.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: And somewhere meet in the middle.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: So the next thing we see, they're at the apartment and they're bickering about storage once again and hangers.
29:52
SPEAKER_01: He hands her a little fabric storage cube.
29:56
SPEAKER_01: She says, I appreciate that, but it's not enough.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: I didn't come here to play these games.
30:00
SPEAKER_01: I want a normal, regular life.
30:02
SPEAKER_01: Watching her unpack more things, and he picks up her black tourmaline rock, and she explains, This is a cleaner because you have so much bad energy.
30:12
SPEAKER_01: This will help clean your atmosphere.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: He's like, Why is a rock something you bring?
30:17
SPEAKER_01: You love to waste money.
30:19
SPEAKER_01: So it turns out she spent$250 on this giant black rock.
30:23
SPEAKER_01: But you know what?
30:23
SPEAKER_01: She didn't spend his money on it.
30:26
SPEAKER_01: She says, Try to be a magical being at least one time because I'm doing all the work on the manifestation on my own.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: He's like, There's free rocks all over the place.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: This is a bad investment.
30:37
SPEAKER_01: She says, You have your rollerblades.
30:39
SPEAKER_01: And I never say your rollerblades is a bad investment.
30:41
SPEAKER_01: He says, Those can get me somewhere.
30:44
SPEAKER_01: This doesn't save anything.
30:45
SPEAKER_01: She says, This is all my manifestation.
30:47
SPEAKER_01: This is all the hard work I'm doing.
30:49
SPEAKER_01: And then she says, if you want to lose teeth, mess with my rocks.
30:52
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
30:53
SPEAKER_01: I've said it before, don't mess with a girl and her rocks.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: I too have rocks.
30:59
SPEAKER_01: Just don't ask any questions about the rocks.
31:01
SPEAKER_01: Leave it alone.
31:03
SPEAKER_01: If you're not going to participate, leave it alone.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: Let her have her thing.
31:08
SPEAKER_01: She's a successful business owner.
31:10
SPEAKER_01: She has employees.
31:11
SPEAKER_01: She wants to have her rocks, let her have her rocks.
31:15
SPEAKER_01: She says, I swear to God, in Brazil, I wasn't worried about money.
31:19
SPEAKER_01: Money would flow up from nowhere.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: It's just magic.
31:22
SPEAKER_01: Thomas is like, I'm terrified right now.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of funny, but okay, so here's the thing.
31:28
SPEAKER_01: They're framing this all wrong.
31:30
SPEAKER_01: Because manifestation is not just magic, okay?
31:33
SPEAKER_01: It's a frame of mind.
31:35
SPEAKER_01: You focus on what you want, you write it down, you put your mind on it.
31:43
SPEAKER_01: And so you do the work because you're thinking about it, you do the work with actual behaviors to make the thing happen.
31:50
SPEAKER_01: You're not just like, hmm, I want a Corvette, and then a Corvette shows up.
31:55
SPEAKER_01: No, you're doing work to get yourself where you want to be.
32:00
SPEAKER_01: So after this little argument, we get to meet the gay Brazilian neighbors, Felix and Anderson, who are adorable.
32:11
SPEAKER_01: Their apartment is beautifully decorated.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: And she's complaining, we eat sitting on yoga blocks.
32:18
SPEAKER_00: It's very embarrassing.
32:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, Felix says, I would throw everything away if I was Paula.
32:24
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: He says, Thomas is a nice guy, but they have problems that need to resolve.
32:31
SPEAKER_01: Okay, this is getting long, so we gotta move on to Mallory and Rosh.
32:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's the day after the party, the infamous tailgate incident.
32:44
SPEAKER_01: Um, I do believe Rosh wakes up cuddling the dog Opal, but he's not gonna admit it.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: Um, Mallory informs him he got white girl wasted last night.
32:55
SPEAKER_01: Rosh does not understand that, so she's trying to explain it to him, and he calls it white goat wasting.
33:02
SPEAKER_01: And they are two adorable together, and I find them highly entertaining together.
33:10
SPEAKER_01: After the hangover, he needs a good home-cooked meal, a Turkish recipe called menemen.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, Mallory loves this, but she says my butthole is gonna hate me later.
33:25
SPEAKER_01: Um, my husband hates it when I talk like this, but yes.
33:29
SPEAKER_01: Rosh agrees with her.
33:30
SPEAKER_01: He says, When you eat after toilet, your butthole, hot pain, cry.
33:36
SPEAKER_01: I don't see anything hot in there.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: I see sweet bell peppers, tomatoes, onions.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: He's peeling a tomato.
33:44
SPEAKER_01: So they're going over everything that happened last night.
33:48
SPEAKER_01: Rosh says, Brandy didn't listen when I told him you can't be friends with my fiancee.
33:53
SPEAKER_01: And she's trying to explain, I can't cut him out of my life.
33:58
SPEAKER_01: I want you to figure your shit out because we're gonna be in each other's lives.
34:03
SPEAKER_01: But I kind of want to believe that this whole conflict is overblown a little bit for the cameras because when they're talking about it in their talking heads, they're a little funnier and jokier.
34:15
SPEAKER_01: And I think the producers are just like egging them on a little bit.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: They are headed out to go look for a bidet.
34:24
SPEAKER_01: Rush says, if you don't have washed ass, you are not clean.
34:29
SPEAKER_01: Mallory says, You're not wrong, honestly.
34:33
SPEAKER_01: She points out we are close to where the accident happened.
34:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, we get a recap about the accident um that happened a year ago with Michaela and her mom and Michaela's son.
34:46
SPEAKER_01: They got hit by a distracted driver who hit them head on going over the center line.
34:51
SPEAKER_01: She spent over a week in the hospital.
34:53
SPEAKER_01: She had to have part of her large intestine removed, three feet of her large intestines.
35:00
SPEAKER_01: Mallory says it was harder on Rosh, knowing he's stuck in Turkey, not being able to be by her side.
35:09
SPEAKER_01: Um, she hasn't been at the site since the accident.
35:13
SPEAKER_01: So she pulls over to show him where it was.
35:17
SPEAKER_01: She's really having a hard time with this.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: She says, You can see how fast people are going on this highway.
35:23
SPEAKER_01: She's really, she's really shaken to be here.
35:27
SPEAKER_01: And I don't, I don't blame her.
35:29
SPEAKER_01: Um, their shared talking head, they have this really sweet moment um that really kind of made me tear up a little.
35:36
SPEAKER_01: He says, if she died, I don't want to marry another woman because I love Mallory.
35:41
SPEAKER_01: She's my everything.
35:43
SPEAKER_01: She's my first married woman, my last girlfriend.
35:49
SPEAKER_01: Back in the car.
35:50
SPEAKER_01: He tries to lighten the moon with music, even though she says she doesn't want music.
35:54
SPEAKER_01: And then he starts twerking at the camera in the car.
35:58
SPEAKER_01: Really kind of dangerous there, Rosh, considering what you just pulled over to have explained to you.
36:07
SPEAKER_01: But anyway, they go on to the bathroom showroom to look at bidets.
36:12
SPEAKER_01: And this is one of those trips where everything is expensive, and one person doesn't understand why we can't just go ahead and get what we want.
36:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, Mallory says, Rosh doesn't have experience paying a mortgage.
36:28
SPEAKER_01: It's normal in Turkey to live at home until in your 20s.
36:32
SPEAKER_01: She says, I don't think he understands the amount of money I pay to keep a roof over our heads, and now I have an extra mouth to feed and an extra butthole to clean.
36:40
SPEAKER_01: Um, so the first one they look at is a heated seat with a rear and front washing, pulsating.
36:48
SPEAKER_01: $1,100.
36:51
SPEAKER_01: Mallory's face is like absolutely not.
36:56
SPEAKER_01: Girl, go to Amazon or Lowe's, get an attachment.
37:00
SPEAKER_01: They're like$20, I think.
37:03
SPEAKER_01: Although I haven't checked recently since the tariffs and all that bullshit, so I have no idea.
37:08
SPEAKER_01: But what I'm saying is they're not expensive.
37:14
SPEAKER_01: Makes a comment.
37:15
SPEAKER_01: You are rich.
37:16
SPEAKER_01: You have accident money.
37:18
SPEAKER_01: She says, I did get an insurance settlement from the accident.
37:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm not a multimillionaire.
37:24
SPEAKER_01: In my mind, that money doesn't exist.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: It's in a brokerage account.
37:28
SPEAKER_01: I can barely access it for a reason.
37:30
SPEAKER_01: If I did want to spend it, it really irritates me that he thinks this is money we can just blow on stupid shit.
37:38
SPEAKER_01: She says, I'm not touching that money unless it's an emergency.
37:43
SPEAKER_01: Okay, we gotta move on to Aisha and Maxwell in the car on the way to the Airbnb where his family is staying.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: She's wearing like a top that kind of shows off her shoulders and sort of fitted, and he says, Please put on a sweater when you see my family.
38:01
SPEAKER_01: She says, He wants to see me sexy all the time, but then when there's family, he wants me to cover up.
38:06
SPEAKER_01: Well, yes, that's that's really how it is.
38:10
SPEAKER_01: She's rolling her eyes like, when do I be cute?
38:12
SPEAKER_01: When do I be conservative?
38:13
SPEAKER_01: I don't know where the line is.
38:14
SPEAKER_01: This is fake outrage.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: You know exactly what to do.
38:18
SPEAKER_01: You know exactly how to dress for your parents and his parents, and I'm not buying this.
38:25
SPEAKER_01: She has met his mom and dad once or twice before, and she's calling them mommy and daddy, and it just feels weird.
38:33
SPEAKER_01: This apartment that they rented is super nice.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: She says, Other than dinner, what's going on tonight?
38:40
SPEAKER_01: What do you have planned?
38:41
SPEAKER_01: He says, We're gonna meet my sisters, Blaze and Mercy and the kids for dinner.
38:47
SPEAKER_01: So we meet Blaze and Mercy, and Blaise says, We do not play about our firstborn sons, meaning her brother.
38:55
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, she is gonna investigate and ask lots of questions.
38:59
SPEAKER_01: Aisha says, Blaze went through every single picture on her Facebook going back to like 2008.
39:05
SPEAKER_01: So Aisha was an original user of Facebook.
39:09
SPEAKER_01: She says, I don't think I would let anybody know that I did that.
39:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree with you there, Aisha.
39:15
SPEAKER_01: So they're asking Aisha if she plans to cook when they get married.
39:21
SPEAKER_01: They're asking her how many kids do you think you're gonna have?
39:24
SPEAKER_01: All of that.
39:25
SPEAKER_01: She says, I think two.
39:27
SPEAKER_01: Mom, Mama Maxwell says, Two kids are unacceptable.
39:32
SPEAKER_01: The dad says, I prefer four.
39:36
SPEAKER_01: Aisha says, Dad, we're gonna leave it up to God there.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: God wants us to have two, we have two.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: Mom still says that's not acceptable.
39:45
SPEAKER_01: Dad doesn't really argue after that.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: How can you argue with that?
39:48
SPEAKER_01: Blaze has some questions about Aisha not being submissive based on what she knows about American women.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: Aisha says he listens to me because he knows I respect him.
40:04
SPEAKER_01: So then they kind of get in on her about all the changes she's trying to make, um, his skin treatment, um, hair pieces, changing his hairline.
40:16
SPEAKER_01: Aisha says he sees the benefits of things that I want to change.
40:19
SPEAKER_01: He unders, she understands it's not that bad.
40:22
SPEAKER_01: Blaise says, What if he likes the way he looks?
40:26
SPEAKER_01: She tells the parents that Aisha wants to change his hairline and his eyeballs, and everybody's jaw is on the floor, and Ace is trying to explain.
40:39
SPEAKER_01: He's been letting the sun damage the white part of his eye, and there forms like a skin on the whites of their eyes, and everybody's like, Yeah, this is normal in Nigeria.
40:54
SPEAKER_01: Blaise says, Are you okay?
40:57
SPEAKER_01: It should be his decision, not something that anyone else is suggesting.
41:02
SPEAKER_01: Aisha says in her talking head, we're gonna do it, and I know I'm right, and we're gonna continue to do it.
41:07
SPEAKER_01: You raised him, he's grown, let him go.
41:11
SPEAKER_01: Once again, I do not know why we are here in Africa getting married if this is 90-day fiance.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: Shouldn't this be before the 90 days or something else?
41:24
SPEAKER_01: I I don't know.
41:26
SPEAKER_01: But the next day they decide to go out together alone to the market to have some alone time and discuss what to do about the visa.
41:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, but they have a really cute moment, Maxwell.
41:37
SPEAKER_01: Sweetie, come here, help me figure out what to wear.
41:40
SPEAKER_01: I give Aisha credit.
41:41
SPEAKER_01: She is good at picking out clothes for him, and he listens.
41:44
SPEAKER_01: He seems to like her picking out his clothes.
41:47
SPEAKER_01: So he explains to her before they go downstairs that she needs to address his parents as ma'am and sir.
41:55
SPEAKER_01: And they go downstairs and immediately she says, Hey mom, hey daddy.
41:59
SPEAKER_01: Maxwell says, Baby, correct yourself.
42:01
SPEAKER_01: You don't address an elderly person as hey, it's like addressing a dog.
42:05
SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile, mom wants to know where they're going.
42:12
SPEAKER_01: And they tell her, Well, we're just gonna go discuss the visa thing and what we're gonna do.
42:18
SPEAKER_01: Mama Maxwell says, You can discuss it in the home.
42:21
SPEAKER_01: Mama Maxwell is not messing around.
42:25
SPEAKER_01: Um, in her talking head, Maxwell's mom says, And my culture, we obey the man.
42:30
SPEAKER_01: Her arrogance, I am weak.
42:34
SPEAKER_01: Uh Aisha introduces Maxwell to one of those electric um neck fans that wrap around your neck in the car.
42:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I gotta get me one of those.
42:47
SPEAKER_01: They have a little bit of uh disagreement in the car about him explaining to her that she can't call them hey mom, hey dad.
42:56
SPEAKER_01: She says the first time I met them, I called them mom and dad.
42:59
SPEAKER_01: And suddenly it's something, suddenly, it's a problem now.
43:02
SPEAKER_01: I think the problem is actually the hey part.
43:07
SPEAKER_01: But they're really kind of talking past each other and they're not really connecting on what the real problem is, and finally everything sort of breaks down, and she's like, Are you dating them or dating me?
43:18
SPEAKER_01: And Maxwell says, Are you sure God wants us to be married?
43:22
SPEAKER_01: Acia's like, You changed your mind?
43:24
SPEAKER_01: Are you confused?
43:25
SPEAKER_01: Maxwell says, A little bit.
43:28
SPEAKER_01: Aisha says, I thought you weren't like that.
43:30
SPEAKER_01: I thought you made decisions for yourself.
43:33
SPEAKER_01: Maxwell says, My parents would only say no if you are disrespectful.
43:37
SPEAKER_01: You need to learn the culture.
43:40
SPEAKER_01: So back at the Airbnb, Juliet is getting the third degree from Maxwell's mom and dad.
43:48
SPEAKER_01: And the mom explains, in Africa, women obey the husbands.
43:53
SPEAKER_01: Maybe if he comes to America, she's gonna push him around.
43:57
SPEAKER_01: Juliet says, I don't think she'll push him around.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: She could have found someone with money.
44:02
SPEAKER_01: She's 38, and she could have had that years ago.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so Mama Maxwell is shocked and shooketh to learn that Aisha is 38.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: And then we get to hear about how the ideal marrying age is 25 up to 30, maybe 35, but 38, no.
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SPEAKER_01: If they're old, they can't take care of their children.
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SPEAKER_01: So obviously, I am old and I can't take care of my children, because I had my children at 37 and 40.
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SPEAKER_01: 30 is the maximum, according to Clement, Maxwell's dad.
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SPEAKER_01: At 38, he says, Menopause is knocking at the door.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't want Asia to be a problem for my son.
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SPEAKER_01: They will obey mama, Mama Maxwell says.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, so that wraps up episodes 7 and 8.
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SPEAKER_01: Just gonna give a super duper brief book club corner.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, so what I'm reading right now is called Salty, and it's by Kate Myers.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna read you the blurb.
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SPEAKER_01: It says, Captain Denise is more comfortable facing down a stingray than a party guest, though she's punched both in recent memory.
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SPEAKER_01: After spending half her life at the helm of yachts across the Caribbean, she's risen through the ranks thanks to one rule: never ever mix with the owners.
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SPEAKER_01: Her sister Helen is a walking HR violation, one of many reasons the two haven't seen each other in years.
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SPEAKER_01: Recently fired after burning all her bridges, Helen returns home to work for Denise.
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SPEAKER_01: The Clashing Sisters' first charter is for the Falcon family, shady real estate developers who mowed down Helen and Denise's childhood home to build condos.
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SPEAKER_01: But then the latest Falcon building collapses and a dead body turns up beside it.
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SPEAKER_01: Helen and Denise comb through the wreckage to uncover just how low the Falcons will sink in order to stay afloat before the big storm wipes out the evidence.
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SPEAKER_01: So you can see it's giving sort of below deck and also murder mystery.
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SPEAKER_01: And yeah, so far it's really, really good.
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SPEAKER_01: I love the characters, it's really well written.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's the show.
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