Latest / Talking FACS / Future of FCS Extension: Dr. Heather Norman-Burgdolf on Leadership
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- 0:01Welcome to Talking FACS, what you need to know about family,
- 0:04food, finance, and fitness.
- 0:07This nationally recognized, award-winning podcast is hosted by the University
- 0:11of Kentucky Family and Consumer Sciences Extension Program.
- 0:15Our educators share research knowledge with individuals, families,
- 0:20and communities to improve quality of life.
- 0:25Thanks for joining us on Talking FACS. I am your host, Mindy McCulley,
- 0:29Extension Specialist for Instructional Support with Family and Consumer Sciences
- 0:32Extension at the University of Kentucky.
- 0:35Today, on this special edition of Talking FACS, I am sitting down with my friend, Dr.
- 0:41Heather Norman-Burgdolf, to chat about what the future of Extension looks like
- 0:46for Family and Consumer Sciences.
- 0:48Of course, if you are a frequent listener of the podcast, you are familiar with
- 0:53Dr. Norman-Burgdolf but she has a new title.
- 0:56She is our Assistant Extension Director for Family and Consumer Sciences.
- 1:01Welcome, Heather. I'm so excited that you're here today.
- 1:04Thank you, Mindy, for having me. I love this idea of just having a conversation
- 1:07of getting to know each other in a different way.
- 1:10Yeah, because you've been around since the start of the podcast.
- 1:14And so this will be a new way for our listeners to know you in a different role.
- 1:19So let's just start with some general introductions, because while they have
- 1:24been listening to you for the past eight years, we don't really go into background much on our show.
- 1:29So let's just give a little brief history. Of who I am. Perfect.
- 1:34I love that. I do think I was one of the first Talking FACS episodes. I think you were too.
- 1:39And it was about meal kit delivery services. I remember that.
- 1:43Still one of the most popular.
- 1:45And you're right. People have probably heard my voice, but they don't know much
- 1:48about me. So to give a little context, I have been born and raised in Kentucky,
- 1:53and I've lived in Kentucky my entire life.
- 1:55I'm from far western Kentucky. All my family is still there in Lyon County and McCracken County.
- 2:01Little did I know that,
- 2:04I was deeply involved with Extension when I was growing up, heavily involved in 4-H.
- 2:10And to this day, still my 4-H agent will reach out, which is pretty incredible.
- 2:15It just tells the story of how much our Extension agents truly care.
- 2:19I have been Extension faculty here at UK since 2017.
- 2:25And I've been in the Department of Dietetics and Human Nutrition ever since.
- 2:29So really, I've spent those last, gosh, nine years now, almost.
- 2:34And serving as a specialist, right? I've been around a little bit.
- 2:38So I guess the biggest things for me, you know, I've loved my role of being
- 2:44an extension specialist.
- 2:46You know, the reach that we have into communities, how we can be so highly responsive
- 2:51with science-based information.
- 2:53I'm a science nerd, you know, but what I've noticed over time is that the work
- 2:59that I was doing as a specialist really expanded just beyond kind of being that
- 3:03subject matter expert or content creator, you know what I mean?
- 3:07Like translating, you know, the most recent trend in food nutrition into practical information.
- 3:14But really, it was more about connecting people and programs and partners.
- 3:19And so that's one of the reasons why I was so interested in this position of
- 3:25the Assistant Extension Director for FCS.
- 3:29And here we are. I love your story because you are a product of Extension.
- 3:35And you get us and you know exactly where we need to emphasize things to fit
- 3:41the general population of Kentucky.
- 3:44So let's do something fun now. What is something that might surprise people?
- 3:49Might surprise, if you know me at all, this won't be a surprise,
- 3:54but I really have trouble reading fiction.
- 3:58I can only read nonfiction and I will even lean towards like a documentary instead of like a movie.
- 4:06And I don't know if grad school did this to me where I feel like anything that
- 4:09I'm consuming has to be educational or informative in some way.
- 4:12I don't know if it means I'm just a nerd, but I do tend to gravitate more towards
- 4:16nonfiction and educational type of content.
- 4:20And I have known you for a long time, but I didn't. So yeah. Yes.
- 4:25Love, history, like all of that. I'm also a reader, but I like to read it all.
- 4:31Let's get a little bit more serious.
- 4:33You know, you talked about what attracted you to this role, but what are some
- 4:37of your top priorities as you look at what our future is in the next five years?
- 4:43Yeah, I'm able to come at this position with the unique perspective of being
- 4:48within and embedded within the system.
- 4:50And so knowing kind of what works well and where there might be opportunities.
- 4:55So for me, I really think it's about alignment. And that word seems fancy, but really it's kind of.
- 5:03Aligning people so that they're potentially working more efficiently or recognizing
- 5:08opportunities to align our people for partnership or collaboration.
- 5:14That's going to come with strengthening communication. I would say,
- 5:18ultimately, my goal is to support
- 5:20our agents and our specialists and our staff so that they feel heard.
- 5:26They feel that what they're doing each day matters. and that might mean focusing
- 5:31on clarifying what roles are for everybody.
- 5:34We've got new people that are coming into this system and we have people that
- 5:37are retiring and just ensuring that we're not making assumptions,
- 5:41but everyone kind of understands why they are important and why they're here.
- 5:45I also see one of my priorities right now of being really intentional about
- 5:49partnerships. There's a lot of interest in family consumer sciences extension
- 5:53and understanding, Well, we
- 5:54have a lot of, we have really far reach and we have incredible resources.
- 5:59And so just being strategic and intentional about what partnerships make the
- 6:03most sense so that we can stay aligned to our mission within FCS,
- 6:07doing that's going to allow us to protect what's working and identify new opportunities
- 6:11that arise that could strengthen our system altogether.
- 6:15So we have a strong unit already. Well, how are you going to honor what's working
- 6:21while providing some vision for new ideas? The mission does not change.
- 6:25We remain rooted in research-based education, and our focus is community impact.
- 6:31So the question is, how does this benefit our community?
- 6:34And that deeply matters to me because my own family lives in these communities,
- 6:40right? My own family lives.
- 6:42Uses the resources Extension provides in their home communities.
- 6:45So really what's going to potentially evolve, I don't know, we're going to evaluate.
- 6:50I'm going to do a lot of listening and hearing from people, but maybe it's how
- 6:54we deliver and it's how we connect the work.
- 6:56And I think that will naturally emerge if we kind of think about how we're better
- 7:00aligning our roles, whether that's on campus here as subject matter experts
- 7:05and Extension associates and Extension specialists, and then also with our county
- 7:09agents and our field staff.
- 7:11Just continued focus on reaching communities where the needs are the greatest,
- 7:14and then just being an advocate that FCS is a trusted essential partner across Kentucky,
- 7:21and it's beneficial for a variety of topics and subject matter areas that benefit
- 7:28health and well-being holistically.
- 7:30Of all of my colleagues, I think that you are probably one who figured out the
- 7:36chemistry between work-life and how to make that jive naturally.
- 7:42What motivates you on tough days?
- 7:45Really, it is, like I mentioned, science. I'm so...
- 7:51Data-driven. I am so reliant on science personally and professionally.
- 7:56And what motivates me is that extension is the most practical application of
- 8:03science and that I get to have a direct role in doing that on a day-in and day-out basis.
- 8:10It is real people that are being benefited.
- 8:13It is real communities that are being benefited.
- 8:16Knowing that the impact we're making is not in the short term,
- 8:19but it could be generational.
- 8:20We're working across the lifespan and the opportunity that's there.
- 8:25And I'll also say that it's the people in the system.
- 8:28So the fact that I was an internal candidate and I was able to transition to
- 8:33this role, I know these people well, but I'm going to be working with and among
- 8:37and in an even closer capacity.
- 8:39And it is the quality of the people within the system, from agents all the way
- 8:44up to colleagues here, that I'm most excited to be able to support in a different way.
- 8:48You know, not every day is going to be easy. I understand that.
- 8:51There's going to be challenges kind of stepping into an administrative role,
- 8:54but the work is always going to be meaningful every single day.
- 8:58And so I'm really motivated by that opportunity to better support the people
- 9:04I deeply care about around me within FCS.
- 9:07Okay, let's switch gears for a minute. Can you tell me about a book,
- 9:12a podcast, or a person that has influenced your thinking lately?
- 9:17You know, I'll talk about a person. So maybe not just one person,
- 9:20but, you know, thinking about this transition into the new role, it's had me thinking,
- 9:25like, who are the good leaders that I've had in the past or supervisors that
- 9:29really stood out to me that I want to emulate in this new role?
- 9:32And the one that keeps rising to the top is my mom.
- 9:36She was an administrator within the home public school system for many, many, many years.
- 9:43And just seeing her professionalism and the grace that she showed every day
- 9:49as a supervisor, working within a complex system,
- 9:53And balancing being a mom, I'm inspired by it.
- 9:58I think if you've listened, you've heard me mention my kids before.
- 10:01So I have three small children.
- 10:02And, you know, that is something that's at the front of my mind is how is it
- 10:06that I can still continue to nurture and culture my own children and my family
- 10:10and my husband and give deeply to something that I so care about at work.
- 10:15So it's probably my mom. I love that.
- 10:20So if listeners remember one thing what would you want it to be,
- 10:25oh, this should be like my extension tagline, right? So extension works.
- 10:29It is local. It is trusted. We're grounded in research.
- 10:32And I guess it's my goal to strengthen that, just continue to support that, right?
- 10:39It's a strong system so that we can continue to make a meaningful difference
- 10:43in communities across Kentucky.
- 10:45Perfect. Thank you for your time this morning. I hope that your time is even
- 10:50more fragile than it used to be.
- 10:54I'm happy to still contribute. If you are just tuning in, you're listening to
- 10:58Talking FACS, and we are available wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.
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