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Ep. 943: Foundations - The Hard-Antlered Buck Shuffle and What That Means to Bowhunters · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
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  Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
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  Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
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  Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
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  Speaker 2: which is brought to you by First Light. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about this time
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  Speaker 2: of the year when white tails go hard antlered and
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  Speaker 2: everything seems to get a little mixed up out there
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  Speaker 2: in the woods. The thing I like about white tails
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  Speaker 2: is that it's a year round game that involves a
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  Speaker 2: hell of a lot of inexact science. Now you might
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  Speaker 2: declare that deer always do this thing or never do that,
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  Speaker 2: but you'd be wrong about that, just on the sheer
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  Speaker 2: fact that predicting the behavior of wild animals is at
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  Speaker 2: best and educated guests. This holds true for a lot
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  Speaker 2: of deer behavior and has some implications for the time
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  Speaker 2: period we are in right now, where bucks go from
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  Speaker 2: velvet to hard antlered and the whole shift to fall
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  Speaker 2: kicks in. It's one of the best times of the
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  Speaker 2: year and I'm going to talk about it right freaking now.
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  Speaker 2: Years ago, when I was in college, I had a canoe.
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  Speaker 2: I know that some people love to fish out of canoes,
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  Speaker 2: and I have to assume those people are also a
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  Speaker 2: little off kilter in their brains where canoes are a
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  Speaker 2: necessity and the best option for access right on. But
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  Speaker 2: if you can get a real boat in there and
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  Speaker 2: use that, it's always a better choice in my opinion. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I had to hand me down canoe from my grandpa
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  Speaker 2: at the time, who had a major chest grabber at
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  Speaker 2: fifty six and left my mom's family without a patriarch.
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  Speaker 2: It was a fine canoe, but I wanted a real boat,
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  Speaker 2: so I found a fourteen foot lon with a twenty
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  Speaker 2: five horse outboard on it. I went to my bank
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  Speaker 2: and took out a personal loan. I recently found the
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  Speaker 2: paperwork for that loan, and the interest rate was almost
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  Speaker 2: ten percent. I don't know why I felt the need
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  Speaker 2: to tell you that, any huski. I spent a lot
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  Speaker 2: of time in that boat on Pool six of the
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  Speaker 2: Mississippi River, and a ton of time I'm on small
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  Speaker 2: backwater lakes around there. I hauled it to northern Minnesota
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  Speaker 2: more than a few times, and generally caught a pile
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  Speaker 2: of fish out of it. One of the places I
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  Speaker 2: went to a lot was a small lake outside of Winona,
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  Speaker 2: Minnesota that was private but opened up to the public wale.
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  Speaker 2: I happened to be in school down there, and also
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  Speaker 2: happened to live not very far away from it. Now.
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  Speaker 2: The original landing was a sand ramp, and that really sucked.
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  Speaker 2: But that old lawn had a trailer that pivoted in
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  Speaker 2: the center, and I could launch that boat in almost
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  Speaker 2: no water. I fished the living shit out of that lake,
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  Speaker 2: and it was full of fish. Dumbfish too, because they
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  Speaker 2: hadn't got hardly a pressure. I actually thought I had
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  Speaker 2: a bead on the state record smallmouth in there, and
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  Speaker 2: even had her on twice. That fish was one of
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  Speaker 2: the reasons why it took me five years to get
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  Speaker 2: a four year degree, if I'm being totally honest. One
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  Speaker 2: thing that I learned about bass and other predatory fish
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  Speaker 2: on that little lake was that during the summer I
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  Speaker 2: caught them on deep weed lines around timber. No shock
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  Speaker 2: her there. But as the nights grew longer and the
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  Speaker 2: water temps started to cool, the big bass in northern shifted.
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  Speaker 2: They'd moved to one of the few narrow points in
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  Speaker 2: the lake that led to bays full of weeds and
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  Speaker 2: just enough depth to host wintering panfish and other baitfish.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine it like this, a mountain lion posting up on
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  Speaker 2: a rocky outcropping while overlooking a hog's back ridge in
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  Speaker 2: the mountains between two basins that just pinches down migratory
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  Speaker 2: mule deer movement when the bad weather kicks in in
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  Speaker 2: the high Country. It had never occurred to me that
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  Speaker 2: fish would swim from one end of the lake the
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  Speaker 2: other to post up in a killer ambush spot while
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  Speaker 2: the seasons fed them an unlimited food source, right before
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  Speaker 2: the lake locked up in ice and everyone started to
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  Speaker 2: fin a little slower throughout the winter months. I don't
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  Speaker 2: remember this happening, although I'm sure it did. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure I went out and casted the same stuff that
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  Speaker 2: had produced all summer and didn't catch much. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: I figured it was just an off bite due to
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  Speaker 2: weather or something else, while not realizing that a fall
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  Speaker 2: migration had kicked in underwater and that I was just
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  Speaker 2: not clued into it. That sort of thing kind of
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  Speaker 2: is happening right now with white tails. I dropped an
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  Speaker 2: episode of this podcast a couple weeks ago about home
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  Speaker 2: ranges and core ranges and what collared bucks out there
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  Speaker 2: have shown researchers on the topic, So I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to get into that here. Instead, I want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about personal experiences with a shift from velvet to hard
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  Speaker 2: antlered and what that might mean to you. For starters,
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  Speaker 2: if you've ever haunted a truly early season for white tails,
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  Speaker 2: like one that starts right on the first of September
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  Speaker 2: and gives you a chance to shoot a velvet buck,
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  Speaker 2: you know that what a Bucker bachelor group does today,
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  Speaker 2: you know might not be the case tomorrow, but certainly
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  Speaker 2: could be. I want to give you two examples to
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  Speaker 2: try to illustrate this point. Back in twenty twelve, I
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  Speaker 2: had a couple of very young babies at home and
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  Speaker 2: a North Dakota white tail tag in my pocket. I
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  Speaker 2: got a five day leave of absence from the chief
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  Speaker 2: of my household and I drove out there.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: While glassing the day before the season opened, I saw
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  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of bucks, including a pair of velvet
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  Speaker 2: racked kind of basket eight pointers. My standards were pretty
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  Speaker 2: oh given my timeframe, and I hope those bucks would
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  Speaker 2: stick around because they were in play along with some
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  Speaker 2: other ones were bigger. Now I ended up hunting pretty hard,
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  Speaker 2: coming up short and just going for a hail Mary
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  Speaker 2: on those bucks the last evening of the hunt. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the day before I had seen both of them and
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  Speaker 2: they were both in velvet, so I figured I had
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  Speaker 2: a shot, and with fifteen minutes of shooting light left,
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  Speaker 2: one of the bucks showed up on a direct path
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  Speaker 2: toward my stand. He was alone and hard antlered. At
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  Speaker 2: some point overnight or throughout the day, he'd shed his
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  Speaker 2: velvet and his buddy. It was one of the most
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  Speaker 2: satisfying conclusions to and over the road hunt I've ever had,
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  Speaker 2: and it's one of my favorite memories.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Two years later, I drove back out there for another
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  Speaker 2: white tail hunt, and I watched a bachelor group of
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  Speaker 2: four bucks bed in the brakes way up in Meal
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  Speaker 2: Dear country. But when they came out that night, they
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  Speaker 2: followed the script and I ended up shooting a velvet
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  Speaker 2: eight pointer that was much bigger than the one from
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  Speaker 2: two years earlier. But I was targeting a gnarly old
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  Speaker 2: seven pointer that was in velvet in the morning and
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  Speaker 2: hard antlered in the afternoon. It only took maybe a
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  Speaker 2: couple hours for him to get rid of that velvet.
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  Speaker 2: Both of them stuck to the travel script, the pattern script,
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  Speaker 2: mostly because out west, where the cover and food is
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  Speaker 2: often pretty limited, those deer might not veer off their
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  Speaker 2: daily patterns by a whole lot. No matter what. They
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  Speaker 2: really don't have a choice but to do what they
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  Speaker 2: usually do in places with limited resources. That has not
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  Speaker 2: been my experience here in the Midwest, at least not entirely. Now.
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  Speaker 2: This is where that whole inexact science thing kicks in.
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  Speaker 2: We are fed almost NonStop content from folks who are
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  Speaker 2: in a race to create the perfect deer property. And
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  Speaker 2: when they have food and water, cover, doze and no
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  Speaker 2: pressure to leave, bucks oftentimes just don't. So we see
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  Speaker 2: their summer bucks turn into fall bucks, you know, on
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  Speaker 2: social media. But those deer are literally sort of living
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  Speaker 2: in an artificial world. I don't really know how else
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  Speaker 2: to say it, but I don't want it to sound
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  Speaker 2: as petty as that does. They are just given every
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  Speaker 2: reason to stick around, and nature likes easy, so that's
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  Speaker 2: what they choose. Nature likes security. Two, which might be
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  Speaker 2: a better way to put that. Now, you might think
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  Speaker 2: that this means that it's highly likely that your summer
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  Speaker 2: Bucks will stick around through September and beyond, and they
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  Speaker 2: certainly might, but they also might not, and that's worth
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  Speaker 2: trying to understand. But to do that, you have to
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  Speaker 2: acknowledge all of the things that are changing in their
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  Speaker 2: world by the day. For starters, the shift from Velvet
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  Speaker 2: to hart Antler means many things, but one of them
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  Speaker 2: is that it's time to figure out who is the
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  Speaker 2: top dog and really establish their hierarchy. I've watched Bucks
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  Speaker 2: spar while still in Velvet, and it's pretty cool to see.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I had a buddy send me a series
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  Speaker 2: of trail camera photos in mid August of two Bucks
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  Speaker 2: sparring under an apple tree. So as their summer coats
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  Speaker 2: start to give away to fall coats and their weapons
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  Speaker 2: on their heads finish up becoming real weapons, and their
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  Speaker 2: hormones start to really kick in, they figure out who
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  Speaker 2: is who in the hurt. This is a side note
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  Speaker 2: here and maybe won't apply to a lot of you
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  Speaker 2: find listeners, but I found that Bucks are often highly
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  Speaker 2: callable in the early season, whether that's a contact grunt
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  Speaker 2: or a snort. I've had some pretty good results talking
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  Speaker 2: to bucks in the first couple weeks of the season
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  Speaker 2: here in Minnesota, in Wisconsin and out west in earlier seasons.
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  Speaker 2: I have my theories on that, and maybe none of
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  Speaker 2: them are right. I just know that it has worked
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  Speaker 2: for me, and I think they are susceptible to calling
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  Speaker 2: because they've spent all season bachelored up and they are
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  Speaker 2: in the phase where they are sorting things out. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: you kind of have to factor that in. The deer
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  Speaker 2: aren't as likely to hang together as the days progress,
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  Speaker 2: although you can still find plenty of bucks paired up
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes traveling in groups. Then you have a couple
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  Speaker 2: of other things to think about, some of which I
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  Speaker 2: consider more impactful to deer for starters. The food sources
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  Speaker 2: are likely to change. In the last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: In my world, I've started noticing a hell of a
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  Speaker 2: lot of acorns hitting the dirt. I've also spent some
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  Speaker 2: time scouting, and the apple tree thing is definitely on
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  Speaker 2: or around here. Hard masks and soft mast matter, and
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  Speaker 2: after a summer of eating alfalfa and beans, it seems
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  Speaker 2: like the deer prime to switch food sources right now.
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  Speaker 2: So they do. This might be a more subtle shift
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  Speaker 2: down south, but also might not be when you factor
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  Speaker 2: in per Simmons or some other high value Here today,
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  Speaker 2: gone tomorrow. Food source. Food is a primary driver of
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  Speaker 2: deer behavior, and if you're not in a position to
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  Speaker 2: create a food plot for them or curate a property
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  Speaker 2: in some other way, this is probably the thing you
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  Speaker 2: should pay attention to the most. If they suddenly aren't
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  Speaker 2: popping out into the egg like they were a couple
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago, what are they feeding on? Because they are
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  Speaker 2: eating something. Now, that's all pretty elementary stuff, but then
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  Speaker 2: you have to factor in the truth about whitetail hunters
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  Speaker 2: and the impact they have on deer. While hunters like
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  Speaker 2: Kenyon try hard to get their work finished well before
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  Speaker 2: the season to give everything a chance to settle down,
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  Speaker 2: it's not so simple for a lot of hunters. Some
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  Speaker 2: folks just don't get out there in the midsummer to
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  Speaker 2: sweat and hang stands and cameras and brush in blinds
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  Speaker 2: and scout. Some folks just get the itch to get
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  Speaker 2: into the woods or go glassing more. Now that it
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  Speaker 2: might be cooling off ever so slightly, But most whitetail
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  Speaker 2: hunters just don't put in much effort until the season
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  Speaker 2: draws closer. This is something that it was absolutely driven
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  Speaker 2: home to me in Minnesota while growing up and hunting
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  Speaker 2: a farm that I shared with a lot of bow
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  Speaker 2: hunters and a ton of gun hunters. Since our gun
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  Speaker 2: season opens up on the first full weekend of November,
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  Speaker 2: that means that the weekend before is almost always around Halloween,
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  Speaker 2: which is pretty prime time to be on a stand
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  Speaker 2: if you ask me and just about anyone who has
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  Speaker 2: even a total dullard's understanding of deer hunting. But that
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  Speaker 2: was also the weekend when random dudes would walk through
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  Speaker 2: the woods, often with the dog at their side and
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  Speaker 2: a heart of hearing buddy who needed to shout through
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  Speaker 2: normal conversations. It was maddening but very consistent. So there's
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  Speaker 2: also the weekend one I'd often hear gunshot after gunshot
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  Speaker 2: after gunshot as guys check their zeros on their slugguns.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, the people impact from that gun opener
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  Speaker 2: on my general bow hunting success was real and didn't
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: do many favors. Now, think about being a public land
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  Speaker 2: whitetail bow hunter or someone who shares ground with other people,
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  Speaker 2: the highest likelihood for preseason intrusion in general is now
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: until you're opener. That's just the reality of most whitetail hunters,
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  Speaker 2: and it has a big impact on deer or it can.
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  Speaker 2: So while we might be looking for a lot of
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  Speaker 2: scientific reasons why our summer pattern on known bucks suddenly
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  Speaker 2: went to shit, it's very likely that's due to the
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  Speaker 2: increased presence of hunters in the woods. This is something
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  Speaker 2: that happens a lot where elk taggs are easy to get,
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  Speaker 2: you know where. Hunters out west show up a week
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  Speaker 2: before the season and hike into every meadow and along
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  Speaker 2: every trail to find the hot sign and generally do
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  Speaker 2: a great job of pushing the elk into the dark
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  Speaker 2: timber hell holes right before the season opens. It's just
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  Speaker 2: part of the game, my friends. What it means for
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  Speaker 2: us whitetail hunters is that the field edge easy pattern
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  Speaker 2: we thought we had might get killed right before we
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  Speaker 2: can actually even hunt the deer. And it might be
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  Speaker 2: our fault or might be the cumulative effect of other hunters,
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  Speaker 2: but either way, the end result is the same. Now
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  Speaker 2: the deer don't necessarily leave, but they might not be
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  Speaker 2: so keen to pop out into the open at five
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  Speaker 2: point thirty in the afternoon to feed with three of
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  Speaker 2: their best friends. So the question is what it always is,
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  Speaker 2: which is what does this mean? You should cross your
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  Speaker 2: fingers and hope the deer you scouted and had on
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  Speaker 2: trail camera this summer will stick to their patterns throughout
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  Speaker 2: opening week. They certainly might, or they might seem to
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  Speaker 2: shuffle off to parts unknown, leaving you with a couple
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  Speaker 2: of four keys and some does to work with. This
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  Speaker 2: is what I consider the best option for most of us.
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  Speaker 2: If you're running cameras, try to set a few of
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  Speaker 2: them to show you where the deer have gone. I
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  Speaker 2: know that's simple, but a lot of us won't do it.
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  Speaker 2: Where are they most likely to stage or travel when
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  Speaker 2: the human presence increases and the food sources change and
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: they just get a little less tolerant of antlered company.
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  Speaker 2: That's an easy one, and it can be so valuable.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of the early season deer I kill are
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  Speaker 2: just off of the food in the cover, in a
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  Speaker 2: situation that I just kind of think is like one
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  Speaker 2: layer back. The window for that type of hunt is
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  Speaker 2: often a short one, but man, it can be good.
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  Speaker 2: The next thing I do is scout. I know we
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  Speaker 2: all want to be super careful this time here because
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  Speaker 2: we don't want to spook deer unnecessarily, But when the
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  Speaker 2: great shuffle happens, I want to know where the bucks go.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how to put it any other way.
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  Speaker 2: Every rub I can find is huge, Truly. There is
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  Speaker 2: nothing I like better than finding September rubs because I
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  Speaker 2: know I'm close to September bucks. A fresh scrape in
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  Speaker 2: September that'll get my attention too. But we also often
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  Speaker 2: have just the conditions that allow for track checking trails,
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  Speaker 2: and that is something I do a lot. A field
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  Speaker 2: edge with tracks is fine, but a trail in the
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  Speaker 2: cover that is all tracked up with fresh sign yes
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  Speaker 2: please two scoops, well, that might not put you on
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  Speaker 2: an individual buck, but it'll put you on deer. And
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: getting on deer is off in the first step to
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  Speaker 2: getting something going with a target buck or a buck
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  Speaker 2: that is of the caliber that would make you happy,
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  Speaker 2: because it's not just the giants that will respond to
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  Speaker 2: all of the changes out there in the woods, and
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  Speaker 2: the old doves that are raising the next generation of
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  Speaker 2: boooners don't much like hunters either, but they do like
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  Speaker 2: acorns and security and persimmons and apples and water that's
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  Speaker 2: in the woods where they leave tracks in September, So
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  Speaker 2: two will bucks leave tracks, and if some of those
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  Speaker 2: trails have any actual buck sign, like even very small rubs,
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  Speaker 2: pay attention. I've watched quite a few big bucks make
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  Speaker 2: rubs in the woods throughout quite a few different states,
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  Speaker 2: and honestly can't remember any one of them ever making
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  Speaker 2: a thigh size rub. For some reason, it's always on
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  Speaker 2: a sapling and the size of the rub is never
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  Speaker 2: really correlated to the size of the buck. Now, I
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  Speaker 2: know this sucks because you've heard all about building a
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  Speaker 2: summer pattern and seeing it through, which is totally doable.
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  Speaker 2: But the best white tail hunters out there always have
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  Speaker 2: a backup plan because while they hunt with confidence, they
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: expect a certain level of failure. That's the nature of
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  Speaker 2: deer hunting because it's just pretty damn hard in general.
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  Speaker 2: But if you start to think think about where they'll
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  Speaker 2: go when the conditions change, you'll start to think about
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  Speaker 2: what you can do to meet them there, just like
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  Speaker 2: the big smallies in Largemouth that somehow realize it's time
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  Speaker 2: to go post up on a channel, leading to a
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  Speaker 2: wintering hole. The summer bucks you counted on to be
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: there might just have other plans that keep them less
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  Speaker 2: visible and as well fed as they've been all summer long.
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  Speaker 2: So think about that. If you start to see a
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  Speaker 2: change in your trail camera activity, or you just realize
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  Speaker 2: that you're seeing fewer deer and out in the fields
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  Speaker 2: on your way to work, whatever things are changing out there,
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  Speaker 2: and if you work with those changes to get somewhere
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  Speaker 2: the deer want to be, you'll have a good chance
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  Speaker 2: of filling your tag. If you don't, you'll be swimming
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  Speaker 2: upstream during one of the best times of year to
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: kill a big one. Think about that, my friends, and
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  Speaker 2: think about coming back next week, because I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about the myth of quote unquote plenty of time
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  Speaker 2: and how that has saved more than a few early
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  Speaker 2: season bucks. That's it for this week. I'm Tony Peterson.
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