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- 0:00Today we're diving deep into a crucial concept for healing
- 0:04attachment trauma. It's called the reflective
- 0:06function. We'll explore how this important
- 0:10skill helps us understand ourselves and others, especially
- 0:14those with anxious and avoidance styles of attachment.
- 0:18Because trauma often leaves hidden, encrypted messages in
- 0:22the form of symptoms, behaviors or patterns, the reflective
- 0:27function is a joint effort of both partners to decipher this
- 0:32code, understanding the underlining meaning and origin
- 0:36of these messages in ourselves and our partner.
- 0:41Welcome to trauma free relationship.
- 0:43I'm Tom Philp, your host, and as a therapist, I've spent over
- 0:4710,000 hours helping couples work through the trauma so they
- 0:50can repair ruptures, heal their wounds, and communicate from a
- 0:54place of wholeness and connection.
- 0:57Let's get started, OK? As I mentioned in the opening,
- 1:09we're going to talk about something today called the
- 1:11reflective function, and this comes straight out of the
- 1:15attachment literature. So what is the reflective
- 1:18function? Basically it's it's the ability
- 1:21or the capacity to mentalize or to reflect on how we think about
- 1:28our thinking and our feeling. So it's being able to have
- 1:32another term they use is theory of mind, meaning being able to
- 1:37think about how we think and think about how we feel and be
- 1:42able to understand that accurately and also be able to
- 1:46understand that in others. Why is this such a crucial
- 1:52capacity for healthy relationships and emotional
- 1:56regulation? Because when we can reflect on
- 2:00ourselves it what happens is it allows us to have more empathy
- 2:05for our partner and ourselves. It opens U roblemsolving
- 2:10caabilities. It creates selfsothing and
- 2:14allows us to navigate conflict better as as well as just
- 2:19general interpersonal skills when we can be able to reflect
- 2:24on our own thinking. Why did I do that?
- 2:27What was behind that? What might have caused me to act
- 2:31or behave in that way? Is this a pattern?
- 2:34What feelings might have motivated me to say that or act
- 2:40in such a way? Those kinds of questions we take
- 2:44for granted a lot of times, but sometimes they're very implicit
- 2:49and and we don't often think about, oh, well, that's a really
- 2:52a highly advanced skill because it really is.
- 2:56And that skill is developed through attunement with our
- 3:00caregivers. So the ability to reflect or the
- 3:04reflective function as I'm talking about here today, is
- 3:08through through thousands of interactions with our caregivers
- 3:12where we learn to put our thoughts and feelings into
- 3:14perspective and to understand how our own mind and the minds
- 3:19of others work. Every time our parents help us
- 3:23be able to reflect on our behavior, reflect on what we
- 3:26were really feeling, understand the difference between primary,
- 3:30secondary emotions, help us reflect when we're being
- 3:33defensive or anxious. And they offer us that safe
- 3:37haven that we so need and crave for during those times, helps us
- 3:42be able to explore ourselves, our own thoughts, feelings and
- 3:47motivations. So that's the reflective
- 3:50function. And it is very, very important
- 3:53in understanding how to navigate our relationships as well as
- 3:57being able to heal trauma. So let's talk about what happens
- 4:03if you fall into the more anxious attachment style.
- 4:06What does the reflective functioning look like?
- 4:10Or how might it be more challenging for you if you have
- 4:15more anxious attachment? First thing you need to know
- 4:17those with anxious attachment. The way the reflective function
- 4:21shows up is that it it conflates, it collapses often
- 4:26times the inside world with the outside world.
- 4:31In other words, the the anxious attachment style has difficulty
- 4:35distinguishing our own realities or own anxieties from reality.
- 4:41If I'm anxious, everybody must be anxious.
- 4:45So they often times they equate what they're feeling on the
- 4:50inside with what may be happening on the outside.
- 4:54So, for example, somebody doesn't show up for lunch.
- 4:59And so the, the conclusion for the anxiously attached person is
- 5:04instead of, well, they were just busy, but rather, well, they
- 5:08don't really want to have lunch with me.
- 5:10I, I, I saw the excuse, I read the text.
- 5:13You could see right through that, you know, and, and so to
- 5:17see how they conflate those, those two realities.
- 5:21So they're, they're pulling away because they don't love me as
- 5:24opposed to they're just busy. They can't make a lunch because
- 5:28they don't like my my company as opposed to they just had
- 5:33something come up and it was an emergency and they couldn't make
- 5:36it. So you can see by these examples
- 5:39where the reflective functioning is, is what's happening on the
- 5:44inside of the individual is automatically assumed to be what
- 5:48reality is about. And so as a result, the
- 5:51anxiously attached person tends to do a lot of mind reading and
- 5:54catastrophic thinking. If I'm feeling anxious, then
- 5:59others must be feeling anxious too and they're causing my
- 6:03anxiety. They tend to over focus on the
- 6:06other's perceived intentions and feelings without truly
- 6:11understanding them. So you didn't just hurt me, but
- 6:14you intentionally meant to hurt me.
- 6:18And being able to distinguish for the anxiously attached
- 6:22person between somebody's behavior versus their intentions
- 6:26can be difficult. They tend to struggle to
- 6:28regulate their intense emotions without external validation.
- 6:33As we've talked about many times on this podcast, the anxiously
- 6:37attached person needs a lot of reassurance.
- 6:41They need a lot of other soothing.
- 6:44That's part of how they soothe themselves is they reach out and
- 6:48they need that reassurance and that validation from others that
- 6:52they're good enough that they're measuring up.
- 6:55And so they have difficult to reflecting on their own role in
- 7:00relational dynamics as well. What did I do to perhaps 'cause
- 7:08that bad interaction, I didn't like the way that went.
- 7:11What might have been my role? My husband was on the couch and
- 7:16he was doing fine watching the the the game.
- 7:22And I came over and the next thing I know we're in a fight.
- 7:25And what did I do? How how might have I contributed
- 7:29to that fight? Did I catch him at a bad time?
- 7:32Should I have asked to talk to him some other time?
- 7:36And when he said no or he didn't make eye contact, I immediately
- 7:39saw that as rejection. And he doesn't care about me and
- 7:42he doesn't want to talk about my feelings and he doesn't care
- 7:45about my feelings. He only cares about basketball.
- 7:47Did I immediately make assumptions and mind read and
- 7:52catastrophize what might have happened without my ability to
- 7:56look at myself in that situation?
- 7:59So that's a little bit about the anxious attachment style and how
- 8:03it this they might be challenged in terms of the reflective
- 8:07function. Now the avoidant attachment
- 8:09style is almost just the opposite.
- 8:12They act as if the outside world has little or no bearing on
- 8:17their inside world. So no matter what goes on around
- 8:21them, they tend to dismiss or simply intellectualize their
- 8:26emotions and others as well. They have difficulty accessing
- 8:31their own internal world. I feel numb, I feel fine.
- 8:37They might disassociate. They, they, so they, they, they
- 8:42have difficulty being able to draw on their own feelings as a
- 8:48way to, as a way to be able to get the information from their
- 8:55feelings that informs what's happening in their life and
- 8:59their world. And this is where the more
- 9:01avoidant attachment style really has challenges because they lack
- 9:05the ability to understand what they feel to draw on those
- 9:09feelings as valuable information about about their relationships,
- 9:14especially with their partner. They may also misinterpret
- 9:18others bids for connection as demands or threats.
- 9:23So their partner comes to them, they're a little bit upset, you
- 9:27know, Hey, I'd like to talk. I know you're watching the game,
- 9:29but I really love be able to. Do you have a few minutes?
- 9:32And instead of them looking at that for, oh, well, they're
- 9:36upset and they want some connection here.
- 9:38God, they're so demanding and they just want to control
- 9:42everything. They want to tell me how to
- 9:43feel. They want to tell me what to
- 9:45think. And so they don't see it as a
- 9:47sense of connection, but rather as a sense of demand or
- 9:51controls. They also can lack poor empathy
- 9:54for others because they can't draw on their own emotional
- 9:58needs and because they're out of touch with their own feelings.
- 10:02They often really struggle to be able to empathize, to understand
- 10:06the emotions and feelings of others.
- 10:09As I said earlier, they might see others emotions as a way of
- 10:14trying to control them or as a demand or a threat as opposed to
- 10:19oh gosh, they must. They're angry.
- 10:22But underneath that anger, I know they're just scared.
- 10:25I know they're really just scared and I can just sit with
- 10:28them and I can be there and I can understand that.
- 10:30So instead of having that kind of insight, they really struggle
- 10:35because again, they aren't able to sort of understand their own
- 10:39emotions and how that informs their relationships.
- 10:43So they really struggle to understand the emotions of
- 10:45others. And again, they, they have
- 10:48difficulty reflecting on the impact that their withdrawal
- 10:52creates on others. If they shut down, if they
- 10:56intellectualize their emotions, if they struggle with empathy,
- 11:00then really they have a difficult time being able to sit
- 11:03with other people's emotions and understand them.
- 11:07And so they tend to withdraw and, and they tend to pull back
- 11:12and, and maybe physically, but certainly emotionally as well.
- 11:16And, and because of that, there's a tendency to focus on
- 11:19external logic rather than on internal estates.
- 11:23So if I can just wrap my head around what you're saying, and
- 11:28if I can just really be able to, you know, analyze and tear
- 11:33apart, then I'll get to the core of what's happening here and
- 11:37I'll be able to understand it and I'll be able to give you a
- 11:39logical response back that should be able to end our
- 11:43argument. The problem is they don't
- 11:46understand why their logical response isn't accepted by their
- 11:50partner and their partner is just left reeling because
- 11:54there's no emotional response to it.
- 11:57It's just all intellectualized. So that is certainly some of the
- 12:01ways that the more avoidance style struggles to to be able to
- 12:09reflect on their own behavior and how the outside world
- 12:14impacts their inside world. So what can you do if you're an
- 12:20anxious person to help with the reflective functioning?
- 12:24Well, one of the first things you can do is practice self
- 12:26soothing and emotion regulation before engaging with others.
- 12:31So if you want to go to your partner who's sitting down on
- 12:34the couch, you might recognize first of all that maybe your
- 12:37partner doesn't want to talk right then, or maybe they're in
- 12:41the middle of something and this isn't a good time.
- 12:43And when they when they act upset or inconvenienced and and
- 12:48you sense that it's not a rejection of you, it's just poor
- 12:52timing. So go and ask them, be able to
- 12:55self soothe and ask them, is this a good time to talk, Hey,
- 12:59this was happening, do you have a moment?
- 13:01So on and so forth. So being able to practice self
- 13:04soothing and emotion regulation opens up a space for you to be
- 13:08less likely to misinterpret. Another thing you have to do,
- 13:12and this I've seen is a real, real struggle with more anxious
- 13:16style of attachment. You've got to be able to
- 13:17challenge your assumptions. You've got to be able to
- 13:21challenge your assumptions. If you see your partner pulling
- 13:26away, it may not be a rejection of you.
- 13:30It might be something going on with them.
- 13:33And if you automatically assume that my partner doesn't want to
- 13:36hear my feelings, this, this throws me back into my trauma
- 13:39where I don't feel good enough. I'm constantly trying to make
- 13:42relationships work. It's all up to me.
- 13:45If you don't challenge those assumptions, then those
- 13:48assumptions will lead you down the same path every single time.
- 13:52You'll repeat the same patterns in your relationship every
- 13:56single time. So one of the things you can do
- 13:59is start journaling to track your thoughts and feelings and
- 14:02to identify those triggers. It's really important for that
- 14:07to happen because you want to be able to identify your triggers
- 14:12and the associated thoughts and feelings that come along with
- 14:15them. You can't challenge something
- 14:16that you can't see. So This is why the reflective
- 14:19function is so important in being able to go.
- 14:23Oh, I see how I was seeing that situation.
- 14:26I automatically assumed that because they couldn't break away
- 14:30and have lunch with me that that somehow they were rejecting me,
- 14:34that something was wrong with me and it may have had nothing to
- 14:37do with me at all. So you got to sleep.
- 14:40Seek clarity directly from others as well.
- 14:44Use this phrase that I use all the time.
- 14:45Can you help me understand? I'm not sure what that meant
- 14:49when you wanted to finish the game.
- 14:51It felt a little bit rejecting, but I, it may not have meant
- 14:54that. Can you help me understand what
- 14:56that meant? So you've got to be able to seek
- 14:58that kind of feedback, which I know is very, it's very
- 15:02sensitive to ask for that because what if they did say,
- 15:05yeah, I didn't really want to talk right then.
- 15:07I was really hoping we could just wait till after the game.
- 15:10And so being able to seek that feedback can be a vulnerable
- 15:16thing to do, but it also can be extremely important because
- 15:20you're not going to be able to see the inside, how it's
- 15:24different from the outside without being able to challenge
- 15:28those assumptions. So those are some things that
- 15:31the more anxious style can do. What about the more avoidance
- 15:34style? One of the things they can do is
- 15:37they can take small steps toward emotional recognition.
- 15:40They really need to be able to start to feel their feelings and
- 15:45the physiological correlates. So what am I feeling in my body?
- 15:49Where might I be feeling this? What does this feeling indicate
- 15:53to me? What do I, when I have this
- 15:55feeling? What do I tell myself about what
- 15:58is happening? And so being able to get in
- 16:02touch with their feelings is going to be very important, and
- 16:06being able to find the bodily sensations as clues to their
- 16:10emotions. All core emotions have a
- 16:14physiological component to it. We use these phrases like hot
- 16:18head because we tend to hold stress and anger in our head and
- 16:22our shoulders. We use the term heavy heart
- 16:26because often times sadness and hurt it resides in our heart.
- 16:30Or we talked about butterflies in our stomach because often
- 16:33times we feel anxious and it feels like it sits in our
- 16:37stomach. So being able to determine what
- 16:40is the physiological correlates that go along, what are the the
- 16:45places and the sensations in my body that are giving rise to
- 16:49these emotions. Very important for the more
- 16:51avoidance style. Learning to tolerate discomfort
- 16:55and intimacy. Often times the avoidant at any
- 16:59at any sign of discomfort, especially like anxiety, they
- 17:04immediately go and they turn off their emotions.
- 17:06They are masters at being able to lock that down and for good
- 17:10reason because often than not the environment they grew up in
- 17:14was not tolerating of their feelings.
- 17:17So why would you have feelings if there was nobody there to
- 17:20receive them? Why would you have feelings in
- 17:22an environment if nobody would allow you to have those feelings
- 17:25or could tolerate those feelings in you?
- 17:28You don't. You learn to shut them off.
- 17:30And so practicing active listening and asking open-ended
- 17:34questions is really important to be able to challenge the
- 17:39reflective functioning in yourself in the more avoidant
- 17:43style, as well as being able to identify patterns of withdrawal
- 17:47and reflecting on their underlining fears.
- 17:50Part of the reason they that that a more avoidant styles tend
- 17:54to withdraw is because of the fear that comes up, the fear of
- 17:58getting into an argument, the fear of escalation.
- 18:01And those may be well founded fears, but unless they're able
- 18:05to stay engaged a little bit longer and less they're able to
- 18:09stay engaged with their partner and hold those uncomfortable
- 18:12feelings a little bit longer than they would normally,
- 18:15they're not ever going to be able to use their feelings to
- 18:19guide any kinds of solutions they want in their
- 18:24relationships. OK, if we put all of this
- 18:27together, what does this mean? If we're able to have our
- 18:32ourselves and our partner be able to reflect better and and
- 18:38increase our reflective functioning, what does that mean
- 18:41for the relationship? Well, first of all, under we can
- 18:44understand each other's internal worlds better.
- 18:46Remember, a relationship is an emotional bond.
- 18:50It's not a negotiation, it's not a contract.
- 18:53We're not just two brains showing up.
- 18:56We are emotionally connected to one another.
- 18:59So being able to understand each other's internal worlds is
- 19:03absolutely crucial and the way we do that is by talking about
- 19:07feelings and perceptions. Another benefit of this is that
- 19:11we develop empathy for each other.
- 19:13For sure. We definitely want to be able to
- 19:16step into each other's shoes and understand feelings and
- 19:20intentions behind our partners behavior.
- 19:25We need to be able to communicate more effectively,
- 19:27right? Communicate breaks down when we
- 19:29get caught in these cycles, but if we can start expressing
- 19:33what's happening internally with us, this opens up a whole new
- 19:36door of communication in our relationships.
- 19:40We can also learn to Co regulate better so we can learn how to
- 19:45reach our partner and soothe them so that we don't get caught
- 19:49and escalate into cycles. And more importantly, we can let
- 19:53our partner reach us and soothe us so we don't get triggered as
- 19:57often either. And then finally, we can begin
- 20:01to process the traumas together. We can understand more when our
- 20:06partner is being triggered what their trauma is indicating to
- 20:09them about what's happening in the relationship.
- 20:13And we can move from a place of triggering those traumas to a
- 20:17place of protecting those traumas in our partner.
- 20:22And that's really crucial, I often say to couples, when you
- 20:25can move from a place where you trigger each other's traumas to
- 20:29protecting each other's wounds and hurts and traumas, then
- 20:34you've opened up a whole new relationship and a way of being
- 20:37with each other. OK, well, I hope this was
- 20:40helpful in terms of understanding more about the
- 20:43reflective function. This is very crucial in the life
- 20:47of relationships. It's very crucial in in just our
- 20:51day in and day out behavior. Being able to understand how it
- 20:55works, evolves our feelings, our intentions behind what we do.
- 21:00Thank you all so very much for listening.
- 21:02As always, I really appreciate it and we'll talk to you next
- 21:05time.