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The Late Debate | 10 October · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Lately.
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Speaker 2: Welcome the late Babe, Well, thanks for joining us. I'm
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Speaker 2: James Macpherson with Liz Storer and filling in for Caleb
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Speaker 2: bond Sky, News contributor and host of The Real Story
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Speaker 2: podcast Joe Hildebrand. Coming up tonight, German police get the
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Speaker 2: surprise when police radar catches the Cookie Monster hurtling down
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Speaker 2: the highway. We'll show you the police images a little later.
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Speaker 2: Plus when we look at the papers, Peter Beatty, the
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Speaker 2: Labor Stalwart, criticizes the Albanese government's Middle East policy as
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Speaker 2: quote a daydream. And in Victoria, the Labor premier there
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Speaker 2: issues an apology to indigenous people, but it's all kept
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Speaker 2: very secret. We'll talk about that when we get to
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Speaker 2: the papers. But first, Senator Fatima Payman, who defected from
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Speaker 2: the Labor Party in July, has started her own outfit.
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Speaker 2: But what to call her brand new political party? Could
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Speaker 2: you believe this Afghan born Muslim who's see angular purpose
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Speaker 2: is peace in Palestine has decided to call herself Australia's Voice. Honestly,
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Speaker 2: you couldn't make this stuff up. Is she a federal
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Speaker 2: senator or a professional troll? Sadly she's serious. Have listened
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Speaker 2: to her on the ABC seven point thirty last night,
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Speaker 2: where she couldn't agree that the October seven attack on
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Speaker 2: Israel was terrorism yesterday.
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Speaker 3: In your view, were the actions of Humas on that
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Speaker 3: day an act of terrorism or an act of resistance?
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Speaker 1: I think that that question really.
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Speaker 4: Not only ignores.
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Speaker 5: The seventy five seventy six years, but also reduces the
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Speaker 5: Palestinian plight. And we need to acknowledge that Palestinians and
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Speaker 5: now the Lebanese community are hurting, but so are the
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Speaker 5: Israeli communities.
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Speaker 2: Seriously, if she is Australia's voice, then her mass is
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Speaker 2: a peace loving organization spreading the equity and inclusion through
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Speaker 2: the Middle East. Australians gave her a voice, I might
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Speaker 2: point out, a voice she would never have had in Afghanistan,
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Speaker 2: where she was born, or in Gaza, which seems to
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Speaker 2: occupy most of her thinking. But for her to call
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Speaker 2: herself Australia's voice, that takes some front.
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Speaker 3: Liz, It really does, I mean, and it has been
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Speaker 3: rightly made a lot of mockery.
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Speaker 4: There's a lot of.
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Speaker 3: Mirth happening on the X and other platforms about this,
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Speaker 3: but it does bemuse me that we seem to be
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Speaker 3: incapable of understanding that quite simply, one man's terrorist is
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Speaker 3: another man's freedom fighter, like these guys are looked up.
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Speaker 4: To in the Middle East by millions.
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Speaker 6: Of people as liberators, as their fighters, as members of
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Speaker 6: their parliaments, like Hesbela has fifteen seats in the Lebanese parliament.
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Speaker 3: We call them terrorists. We seem to have no understanding
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Speaker 3: of the fact that in that part of the world,
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Speaker 3: it's the West that are seen as terrorists. And when
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Speaker 3: we import people from that part of the world, with
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Speaker 3: their cultural background, with their narrative of the world, they're
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Speaker 3: thinking of what America did in Syria, in Libya, in Iraq,
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Speaker 3: in Afghanistan, and this is their narrative.
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Speaker 1: It's more than the narrative though, it's values.
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Speaker 3: So we import their values, their religion, their blood memories,
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Speaker 3: it's all there.
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Speaker 4: And then we.
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Speaker 3: Wonder why Arabs are supporting Arabs, Muslims are siding with Muslims. Well,
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Speaker 3: Beryl hit me with another hot take. I mean, of
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Speaker 3: course they are. But notice it's only in Western countries
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Speaker 3: that we allow people with values so opposed to our
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Speaker 3: own to sit in our federal parliaments.
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Speaker 4: I mean it's it's it's quite mind blowing.
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Speaker 3: And I'm sure countries look like the ones that we
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Speaker 3: pick on in China, in Russia, these people that we
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Speaker 3: call dictatorships, at least they're not standing for any of this.
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Speaker 7: Wow, so much to run pack.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, look, I think look, I've been saying for some time,
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Speaker 8: and I think other people are smart enough to realize
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Speaker 8: it too, that we do have to understand that exactly
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Speaker 8: what you said, that you know that these people do
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Speaker 8: not understand. And it's not just it's not just people
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Speaker 8: from Afghanistan or for the Middle East or Arabs, it's
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Speaker 8: people in Australia as well who have used to call
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Speaker 8: Hamasa terrorist organization. For example, there are different over privileged
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Speaker 8: and it's not as unique. Kids and student socialists have
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Speaker 8: been very prepared to do that as well, and I
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Speaker 8: think that is where But I do think there is
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Speaker 8: a case where if you have been completely and utterly
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Speaker 8: indoctrinated with, for example, Hamas propaganda in Gaza, you are
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Speaker 8: not going to know that the rest of the world
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Speaker 8: sees them as a terrorist or the free world or
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Speaker 8: Australia sees them as a terrorist organization. I can understand
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Speaker 8: that Fatima payment not have that excuse. Fadam of Payment
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Speaker 8: has got basically every possible privilege you could imagine there is.
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Speaker 8: There is almost no position in Australian society than being
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Speaker 8: an She has access.
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Speaker 4: She is an Afghan Muslim.
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Speaker 8: But I think this is the thing though, if after
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Speaker 8: all that, It's one thing, if she just stepped off
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Speaker 8: the boat from Kabul and said, oh, what are you
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Speaker 8: talking about the Taliban, aren't They're not a terrorist organization.
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Speaker 7: They're a wonderful bunch of people. You know.
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Speaker 8: Sure they don't let me read or write or go
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Speaker 8: to school, but you know, what do you mean? But
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Speaker 8: for her to have lived most of her life here
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Speaker 8: and to have achieved the rank of Australian Senator, to
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Speaker 8: have access to any library in the country, including the
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Speaker 8: Australian Parliamentary Library, and still not to be able to
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Speaker 8: see and say that clearly not not even that hermass
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Speaker 8: is a terrorist organization, but what happened on October.
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Speaker 7: Seven is a terrorist act.
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Speaker 1: Libraries do if you.
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Speaker 8: Or terrorists understand that from all the information that is
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Speaker 8: available to you, just that act a line and just
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Speaker 8: say yes, that an active terror then there is something
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Speaker 8: I think profoundly either wrong with you on a sort
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Speaker 8: of moral human level, or you are severely limited in
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Speaker 8: your intelligence and your ability to process information. And that
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Speaker 8: is about as kind as I can possibly be. And
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Speaker 8: notwithstanding the fact that she has launched Australia's Voice, which
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Speaker 8: clearly is trying to nick some of the red rest
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Speaker 8: of the Voice referendum that happened in Australia last year
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Speaker 8: and was called the Voice right, so she's clearly ripping
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Speaker 8: off that brand and trying to sort of capitalize on it.
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Speaker 8: Or maybe her new chief of staff or advisor Glenn Drury,
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Speaker 8: the Preference whisperer's putting some of these ideas in her heads.
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Speaker 8: It's just got to have everything. So oh yeah, I
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Speaker 8: like Australia, I like the Voice.
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Speaker 7: I like for that.
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Speaker 8: They've got no policies, they've got no I don't even
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Speaker 8: know if they've got any members apart from her and
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Speaker 8: this guy who how good And they didn't they didn't
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Speaker 8: even consult the actual Indigenous people in charge of the Voice.
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Speaker 1: They do would never have had the form she now has.
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Speaker 2: If the labor nobody that's committed to that's right, dentity
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Speaker 2: politics where they put a kid, well, I don't even
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Speaker 2: know ifing going for her, except she was female and
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Speaker 2: a Muslim and had come from Afghanistan.
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Speaker 1: They were her qualities.
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Speaker 2: It's diversity, and so they gave her a platform and
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Speaker 2: now we're reaping them.
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Speaker 8: I'm sure if they expected her to win the seat,
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Speaker 8: because of course the numbers in WA that came in
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Speaker 8: later on election night were so stratispherically huge that delivered
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Speaker 8: this win, for without which the government might even be
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Speaker 8: a minority already. So I'm not sure it's particular particularly
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Speaker 8: expected her to win.
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Speaker 7: But whether or whether it was a box sticking.
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Speaker 8: Exercise or not, she would not be in the Parliament
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Speaker 8: were it not for the Australian Labour Party next to
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Speaker 8: her name of the Senate. The fact that she is
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Speaker 8: still there when there is absolutely no way she would
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Speaker 8: ever win an election based on her own intellect, or
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Speaker 8: her own values or her own policies, of which she
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Speaker 8: has none, The fact that she has refused to do
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Speaker 8: the right thing and vacate the seat for another Labor member,
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Speaker 8: and the fact that she has now had the audacity
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Speaker 8: to say that she and apparently she alone, is Australia's
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Speaker 8: without actually providing any kind of you know, community policy
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Speaker 8: any other evidence of all I mean, that is a
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Speaker 8: level of hubris which I think is so titanically, ridiculously
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Speaker 8: over the top that it actually points to someone who
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Speaker 8: is either monomaniacal or frankly, just not all there. And
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Speaker 8: I don't know which that is, but it is just nuts.
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Speaker 2: Well, if you're looking for levels of hubris that are
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Speaker 2: just out of control, you can't go much further than
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Speaker 2: broadcaster Antonette Latouf, who was famously sacked from a role
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Speaker 2: with the ABC after she posted inappropriate comments on social
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Speaker 2: media concerning the war in Gaza. Well free of her
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Speaker 2: obligations from the ABC, she's continued to post on Instagram.
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Speaker 2: Have listened to these remarks she posted just the other day,
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Speaker 2: after a year of butchering civilians, doctors, media and aid workers,
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Speaker 2: how are all the media personalities, influencers and comedians who
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Speaker 2: stayed silent, too busy protecting your precious careers, or because
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Speaker 2: it's so complex to amplify a human rights organization holding
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Speaker 2: up still getting those contacts in full eight hours sleep,
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Speaker 2: feeling safe and cozy.
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Speaker 1: Don't worry.
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Speaker 2: I'd hate for a little thing like live streams suffering
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Speaker 2: to interrupt your zen. Meanwhile, I'm loving your selfies and
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Speaker 2: your yoga posts.
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Speaker 1: You do you boo.
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Speaker 2: So she's having a go at media types who didn't
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Speaker 2: speak out about Gaza as she did. And then she
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Speaker 2: goes on to make these remarks, Yeah, Hamas is widely
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Speaker 2: defined in academia and government as an armed resistance movement.
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Speaker 1: This isn't some new revelation.
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Speaker 2: There's also been PLO and Fatah, various groups pushing back
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Speaker 2: against occupation and apartheid. And then she says this, whether
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Speaker 2: you agree with their methods or not, and let's just
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Speaker 2: remember their methods were what rape, beheading, burning babies, taking
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Speaker 2: children hostages. Whether you agree with their methods or not,
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Speaker 2: they are resisting the status quo. I would say the ABC,
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Speaker 2: he dodged a massive bullet.
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Speaker 3: They did, indeed, and thank god they let her go
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Speaker 3: when they did. But this is what I'm talking about
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Speaker 3: because Antonete Latoufe is from Lebanese origin.
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Speaker 4: So once again, when we.
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Speaker 3: Import people, we import their culture, their belief systems, their history.
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Speaker 4: This is why I am no fan and never have.
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Speaker 1: Lebanese Christians think very differently to Lebanese movies.
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Speaker 4: Indeed, and I'm not lumping them all in together.
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Speaker 3: But again she has an origin in the Middle East.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what she was taught by her parents.
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Speaker 4: I don't know where she's come up with this.
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Speaker 3: Because the points that you made regarding senator payment are
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Speaker 3: exactly the same.
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Speaker 4: Right U has grown plenty of other places.
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Speaker 8: Plenty of other people have come here from Muslim countries,
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Speaker 8: plenty of other Arabs here who do not do not
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Speaker 8: have any difficulty terrorism together.
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Speaker 3: I'm simply saying I think her ties, her leaning is
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Speaker 3: very obvious in this scenario. I mean, I can't be
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Speaker 3: the only Westerner who was completely bemused. But last week
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Speaker 3: the watch so many people lose their minds over The
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Speaker 3: Iranian ambassador to Australia praising and expressing his remorse over
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Speaker 3: the assassination of Hassan or the surprised.
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Speaker 1: He said that I'm surprised he's still here.
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Speaker 3: Of course, they're friends, they're allies like we have.
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Speaker 4: We allow people to be here.
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Speaker 3: And having imported tens of hundreds of thousands of them
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Speaker 3: who believe as people believe in the Middle East.
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Speaker 8: Period, I don't think I don't think that's a universtal thing.
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Speaker 8: I can understand again, if you're living under the yoke
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Speaker 8: of an organization like Hesbela and Lebanon Sudden Lebanon or
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Speaker 8: Hamas in the Gaza strip and there is no democracy,
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Speaker 8: and you get force fed this stuff that says Israel
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Speaker 8: as a bunch of evil, you know, baby killing murderers,
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Speaker 8: not just it is.
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Speaker 4: The web and they target Israel.
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Speaker 8: See, but what you actually want, what you actually want,
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Speaker 8: even if that is the world view over there, What
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Speaker 8: you want is people coming here and realizing that that's
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Speaker 8: wrong and that that's not true. And you do get
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Speaker 8: people who are prepared to stand up to terrorism. You
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Speaker 8: get Jamal Riffi, who is an incredible Muslim community leader
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Speaker 8: in Southwest Sydney.
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Speaker 7: Who got come out and it would stand up.
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Speaker 8: I think no, I think most of those are very
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Speaker 8: Most people just keep their head down and we'll see
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Speaker 8: how they couldn't.
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Speaker 3: Even name five and certainly I can't name a single
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Speaker 3: I mom like a Muslim leader in Australia. I think
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Speaker 3: the proof has come out and even condemned just October seven.
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Speaker 8: But I'm talking to U about ordinary people. So they're
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Speaker 8: not they're not household names, they're not lets. So you
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Speaker 8: do I think you hear from often the most extreme
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Speaker 8: elements and that is part of the problem, that they
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Speaker 8: are the ones making the most noise. And I think
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Speaker 8: oftentimes people are scared to raise their head about the
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Speaker 8: parapet because when you're talking about extremists and terror sympathizers,
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Speaker 8: then that can make life very very ugly for you
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Speaker 8: in your community. And again, you know, doctor if he's
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Speaker 8: had death threats for standing up against Isis, precisely because
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Speaker 8: he was standing up against ISIS. So the minority, the
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Speaker 8: extreme minority, who were violent and were radical.
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Speaker 7: We're targeting him.
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Speaker 8: But I think the vast majority, and again this will
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Speaker 8: be seen in how well or not the Muslim vote
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Speaker 8: goes at the next election. Yeah, we will see how
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Speaker 8: we will just see just my intel and what I'm
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Speaker 8: being told, whether I'm right or not, is that this
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Speaker 8: is a very small number of very deluded and extreme
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Speaker 8: and naive people, and that the vast majority of the
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Speaker 8: Muslim community in Sydney at least will just stick with
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Speaker 8: the mainstream.
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Speaker 1: While we're on extreme people.
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Speaker 2: Have a look at Green's act candidate Hareini Renjuran, who
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Speaker 2: has posted on a blog equivocate or making an equivalence
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Speaker 2: between Jesus Christ and a Sama bin Ladden. She wrote
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Speaker 2: a blog post on martyrdom, and she wrote, quote, I
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Speaker 2: dream about dying brutally for my country, my family, my loves.
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Speaker 2: She wrote, I've gone on to idolize several other martyrs,
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Speaker 2: and then she lists Jesus Christ alongside Osama bin Laden.
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Speaker 1: Et cetera.
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Speaker 2: She wrote, and then when ABC News asked her about it,
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Speaker 2: she changed the etcetera to laugh my ass off. In
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Speaker 2: other words, it was all just a joke, but clearly
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Speaker 2: it wasn't. She added that after she'd been caught, what
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Speaker 2: does this say about the Greens vetting candidates? Or maybe
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Speaker 2: she's exactly the kind of candidate the Greens are looking for?
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Speaker 2: Who thinks Jesus and Osama bin Laden are kind of
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Speaker 2: both heroes?
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Speaker 4: Shame really?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think we also need to talk about
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Speaker 3: some sort of age limit in parliament. This girl is
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Speaker 3: twenty years old and the Greens are putting her up
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Speaker 3: to inhabit one of less than eighty seeds in our
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Speaker 3: hallowed senate.
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Speaker 4: I mean, do me a favor.
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Speaker 7: Be the next part of my pavment.
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Speaker 4: They've got to replacement mind up. This is just ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: We talk often about stupid mista politicians have made years.
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Speaker 1: Before this was last year she wrote.
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Speaker 4: This was last year. This kid is still a kid.
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Speaker 8: This is just for the act Legislaive Assembly as well,
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Speaker 8: so she's not actually candidate for the federal parliament.
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Speaker 7: We have even the Greens that cooked.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think I know it's made the meeting, but
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Speaker 2: do you really think Adam Banter is sitting at home
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Speaker 2: going no. I can't believe she said that thinking she'll
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Speaker 2: fit writing it's just Google.
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Speaker 7: Terrorst sympathizes and then oh that could be our next tip.
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Speaker 7: But this is the thing.
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Speaker 8: So the change is what gets you. The change is
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Speaker 8: the smoking gun, if you like. If this was all
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Speaker 8: a completely innocent act of creative writing, why did she
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Speaker 8: or the Greens or someone go back in after someone
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Speaker 8: was asking questions about it? First thing to be so stupid.
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Speaker 8: They wouldn't have taken screen grabs. It's already too late.
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Speaker 8: But then go and change it. And there was another one.
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Speaker 8: I don't know what the meaning of it is, but
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Speaker 8: there was another name that was in there that she
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Speaker 8: also deleted, Balachandra Bakum. I don't know if that's some
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Speaker 8: hero or something that she didn't want to get in
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Speaker 8: trouble for. But again, the fact that she changes et
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Speaker 8: cetera to l lmao, so went back in there to
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Speaker 8: make it look like a joke, to retrospectively justify the
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Speaker 8: excuse that her and the Greens had given the ABAC, which,
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Speaker 8: to their great credit, they discovered uncarved it. If there's
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Speaker 8: no if there's no crime, then why is there a
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Speaker 8: cover up?
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Speaker 3: And also, I think the act Greens have already answered
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Speaker 3: your question because if this was oh wow, didn't vetter
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Speaker 3: properly and she likes her, do they would have They
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Speaker 3: would have.
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Speaker 4: Kicked her out by now I'll be like, haha, sorry.
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Speaker 3: About that candidate not a candidate anymore. Everyone rest assured instead, No,
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Speaker 3: we're editing posts now. They haven't disowned her. We're still
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Speaker 3: waiting for an appropriate response.
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Speaker 4: It's simply not happening, which is just typical for those guys.
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Speaker 3: To Queensland now where the native title claims on fifteen townships,
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Speaker 3: the details of those are being kept from the public.
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Speaker 4: Why. Well, here's the explanation from the government.
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Speaker 3: That is, the applications may contain culturally sensitive material about
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Speaker 3: a person's or group's connection to the land, which triggers
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Speaker 3: intellectual property of the applicant okay Land transfers. Applications would
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Speaker 3: also name dead people, which if released, would breach the
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Speaker 3: privacy of the deceased and may offend Aboriginal people in
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Speaker 3: accordance with culture or custom. That is the government's reasonings
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Speaker 3: for not releasing the details of these applications on these
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Speaker 3: fifteen townships. This has been playing out in Queensland for
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Speaker 3: quite some time, you may recall back in July twenty one,
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Speaker 3: the government released this media release dating quite that nearly
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Speaker 3: a third of Queensland was now under native title. There
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Speaker 3: it is they're trumpeting what they clearly perceived to be
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Speaker 3: some sort of great news victory. Then in April, the
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Speaker 3: Native Title Tribunal Map of Queensland showed that forty two
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Speaker 3: percent of Queensland's land mass had already been successfully claimed
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Speaker 3: as native title.
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Speaker 4: So you can see.
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Speaker 3: That that number is growing quite quickly. And now in
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Speaker 3: June of twenty four, just this year, we read this
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Speaker 3: headline half of Queensland could be claimed by Native title,
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Speaker 3: So this is moving very fast in Queensland.
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Speaker 4: Obviously, Queenslanders are quite.
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Speaker 3: Perturbed about this and would like to know the details
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Speaker 3: of these applications that are applying for freehold native title
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Speaker 3: in now fifteen townships and this is our In June,
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Speaker 3: the Kabby Cabby people were given native title holder's status
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Speaker 3: of over three hundred and sixty five thousand hectares on
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Speaker 3: the Sunshine Coast. So Queenslanders are well and truly sick
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Speaker 3: of this. A lot of these fifteen townships are up
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Speaker 3: in arms about it, and the government's just saying, oh, well,
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Speaker 3: sod you lot.
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Speaker 7: I see dead people all under wrap.
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Speaker 2: It's outrageous that the government won't provide details to the public.
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Speaker 2: It's not land that politicians have the right to just
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Speaker 2: hand out willy nilly according to their.
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Speaker 1: Ideal logue I ideology. People want details.
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Speaker 2: And as for the government's excuses, it's culturally sensitive. That's
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Speaker 2: pretty sensitive to the people who are going to lose
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Speaker 2: access to parks or to climbing mount Warning or the
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Speaker 2: property that is going to go freehold to indigenous groups.
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Speaker 2: If it's going to be upsetting because deceased people are
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Speaker 2: named in the documents.
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Speaker 1: When you redact them, you them out. But there was
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Speaker 1: a third.
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Speaker 2: Reason why the government said we can't release this information,
20:03
Speaker 2: and this to me is the most astonishing thing they said. Thirdly,
20:08
Speaker 2: it might cause conflict if we give all the information,
20:11
Speaker 2: because when you find out which indigenous group is making
20:14
Speaker 2: a claim, there may be other groups that view that
20:18
Speaker 2: group is having no connection to the land.
20:19
Speaker 1: Well, information gold mine springs to mind.
20:25
Speaker 8: I can't put my finger on it line with gazillion.
20:30
Speaker 1: Made public so they can be verified.
20:32
Speaker 2: If the government are worried, there'll be an argument, isn't
20:35
Speaker 2: that proof?
20:38
Speaker 8: To be honest, I think what is truly going on?
20:39
Speaker 8: So firstly, just imagine if there was actually something truly
20:44
Speaker 8: threatening or radical about Queensland going from thirty percent to
20:50
Speaker 8: fifty percent Native title, and they never tell us, right
20:54
Speaker 8: then we'd already like already, like you say, it's going
20:56
Speaker 8: the number keeps going up. But for the most part,
20:59
Speaker 8: life just goes on. It doesn't actually make any real difference.
21:01
Speaker 7: Now, that's right.
21:02
Speaker 1: So they want to climb Mount Warning.
21:05
Speaker 2: Or you know, the Glasshouse mountains or rampions in very
21:09
Speaker 2: very we continue going to Fraser Island with the bat
21:12
Speaker 2: on cis no difference.
21:13
Speaker 8: But when that does start to interfere with people's life.
21:17
Speaker 8: For example, if I think there was a case in
21:18
Speaker 8: one of these towns they might not get access to
21:20
Speaker 8: the park or whatever. If that were to actually happen,
21:23
Speaker 8: then you would see an actual revolution, and it wouldn't
21:26
Speaker 8: be from the Blackfellows.
21:27
Speaker 7: It would be from there.
21:28
Speaker 2: A security guards standing at the base or there were
21:30
Speaker 2: at the base of Mount Warning making sure white people
21:33
Speaker 2: didn't climb as they have for a hundred years.
21:35
Speaker 7: That's right. If that goes on for the most part,
21:40
Speaker 7: it does.
21:40
Speaker 8: And if what I'm saying is if those changes become,
21:43
Speaker 8: if they go from being those big sort of things
21:46
Speaker 8: like you know, Ulla or Mount Warning to being the
21:48
Speaker 8: local the local park or you know, the main drag
21:51
Speaker 8: or the local footy field or whatever it may be,
21:54
Speaker 8: it starts to interfere. You know, if suddenly they have
21:56
Speaker 8: three hundred thousand dollars of absolute beachfront property on the
21:59
Speaker 8: Sunshine Coast and they're saying, no, you can't put your
22:01
Speaker 8: condo there, that's when the proverbial will really hit the fan.
22:04
Speaker 7: And so I.
22:05
Speaker 3: Think naturally they're not going to say yay native titles.
22:08
Speaker 3: So the Kabbycabby people in it on the Sunshine Coast
22:11
Speaker 3: aren't going to be like, great, now we have over
22:14
Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five thousand hectares, but we're just
22:18
Speaker 3: going to leave it as is.
22:20
Speaker 4: Everyone business as usual.
22:22
Speaker 3: We're not going to exerss.
22:24
Speaker 8: What happens in the vast majority of case, like in
22:26
Speaker 8: the vast majority of cases that might be huge farming
22:28
Speaker 8: properties where it just goes on and you're just because
22:32
Speaker 8: this has been going on for years, for decades.
22:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And why do you think they want it
22:36
Speaker 3: if it's so useless, if they intend to do nothing with.
22:39
Speaker 8: It, Largely because they just want to be acknowledged, often
22:41
Speaker 8: because they want to be consulted in terms of what happens.
22:43
Speaker 7: On the land.
22:44
Speaker 8: I think that sometimes they get a little bit of
22:46
Speaker 8: compensation to the local.
22:47
Speaker 2: Average there you're starting very much appreciated name.
22:52
Speaker 8: But that money is meant to go and I know
22:55
Speaker 8: that it doesn't always, but that you know, the money
22:57
Speaker 8: they get is meant to go in being able to
22:59
Speaker 8: build up their communities and to help get jobs for
23:01
Speaker 8: these people and be able to you know, redress some
23:04
Speaker 8: of the disadvantage.
23:05
Speaker 2: If it's sobernign, and if it's so innocent, then give
23:08
Speaker 2: the details to them.
23:10
Speaker 7: I think this is the thing.
23:10
Speaker 1: I think the fact they keep that.
23:13
Speaker 7: This is the exact point.
23:14
Speaker 8: So this is exact point, and this is what goes
23:16
Speaker 8: to Liz's map as well, which is that on paper
23:19
Speaker 8: it does actually look kind of terrifying us what they're
23:21
Speaker 8: going to have freehold over, you know, the whole town whatever.
23:24
Speaker 8: Whereas in practice again so just.
23:29
Speaker 1: Acolytes probably.
23:31
Speaker 7: But the point then, why do they want paper?
23:34
Speaker 8: It is nothing because I think all this stuff on paper,
23:37
Speaker 8: much like with the Victorian kind of treaty process, is
23:41
Speaker 8: this ridiculously viventine thing where they're saying all sorts of
23:44
Speaker 8: tortured words, all sorts of buzzwords that are crammed into
23:48
Speaker 8: a document to try to make everybody happy, and it
23:50
Speaker 8: actually doesn't make any difference at all.
23:53
Speaker 7: And that tells everything I.
23:54
Speaker 3: Was saying that the government, in giving out all this
23:57
Speaker 3: native title land, is just laughing all the way to
23:59
Speaker 3: the bank, being like, oh these stupid.
24:01
Speaker 8: No no, no, no, no no. I think, yeah, well, I think
24:05
Speaker 8: the government is in large part just saying all right, just.
24:08
Speaker 7: Here's your thing, here's your thing. We'll walk this all
24:10
Speaker 7: out behind closed doors. And you know, the government's got
24:12
Speaker 7: no le do that.
24:14
Speaker 2: It's not their land to just come and give away
24:16
Speaker 2: to a group that they're trying to, you know, gain even.
24:20
Speaker 8: Under Native Title Act that would have the right to
24:21
Speaker 8: do that. But I think the point is it's certainly
24:23
Speaker 8: ridiculous for you. It's a ridiculously convoluted process that I
24:28
Speaker 8: think if someone just came in cold at face value,
24:31
Speaker 8: you would think again, as I said, Holy, oh my god,
24:34
Speaker 8: half the state of Queensland doesn't belong to us anymore.
24:37
Speaker 2: I reckon if Queensland opposition leader, perhaps soon Premier David
24:41
Speaker 2: Chris A. Fooley, spoke out about this, he'd get a
24:43
Speaker 2: lot of support, but he's not wanting to speak out
24:45
Speaker 2: about too much. He's less than a month away now
24:48
Speaker 2: from the election. He looks like an absolute shoe in
24:50
Speaker 2: for the top job, but he's trying desperately to avoid
24:54
Speaker 2: any controversial issues so that he won't be obstructed. However,
24:59
Speaker 2: there's an email going around. It's come from an LNP
25:01
Speaker 2: official talking about how Queensland has been captured by transgender
25:06
Speaker 2: ideology and that the LNP, once they get into office,
25:10
Speaker 2: should ban puberty blockers being given to miners. The email
25:15
Speaker 2: came from Alan Baker. He's the chair of the party's
25:17
Speaker 2: Griffith divisional council. Now the Guardian newspaper have gotten hold
25:22
Speaker 2: of this email and they've been asking David Chrisfooley, do
25:27
Speaker 2: you agree that Queensland has been captured by transgender ideology?
25:31
Speaker 2: And are their plans to block miners from having puberty blockers?
25:35
Speaker 2: And David Chrysi Fooley is steadfastly refusing to answer any
25:39
Speaker 2: questions from those issues. And this is the problem that
25:43
Speaker 2: we have as conservatives. Our conservatives don't want to be
25:46
Speaker 2: seen as conservatives. Scott Morrison was a massive disappointment because
25:51
Speaker 2: he was elected in the whole lot of us thought, finally,
25:53
Speaker 2: not only will we get some good economic management that
25:56
Speaker 2: didn't go so well, but maybe we'll get someone who
25:59
Speaker 2: stops the mad social conditioning and all the propaganda going
26:03
Speaker 2: into our schools, et cetera, et cetera.
26:05
Speaker 1: And then Scott.
26:05
Speaker 2: Morrison turned around and said, really, I don't want to
26:08
Speaker 2: get involved in the culture wars. Well, a lot of
26:10
Speaker 2: us were hoping he would get involved in them, because
26:12
Speaker 2: the Culture Wars happened, whether you get involved or not.
26:15
Speaker 2: David Chris Fooley is trying to play this small target.
26:19
Speaker 2: He's been asked over fifty times about abortion and he
26:22
Speaker 2: won't say anything about it, even though Robbie Katter has
26:25
Speaker 2: said he will introduce a bill to in some way
26:28
Speaker 2: restrict abortion. David Chris Foley won't say whether he would
26:32
Speaker 2: personally support a cross bencher's bill or whether he would
26:35
Speaker 2: allow a conscience vote on behalf of conservative politicians. He
26:39
Speaker 2: just won't answer the question. Surely, we want a conservative
26:43
Speaker 2: leader who's going to have the courage, especially when he's
26:45
Speaker 2: got such a massive lead in the polls, show the
26:48
Speaker 2: courage of your convictions.
26:50
Speaker 1: That's exactly I actually.
26:51
Speaker 3: Believe exactly why he won't show the courage of his
26:54
Speaker 3: convictions if he has any, because I would challenge any
26:57
Speaker 3: man who wants to then turn around and be like, no,
27:00
Speaker 3: I did believe this stuff all along after they've left
27:03
Speaker 3: pass from me a favor. You're a weak man, You
27:06
Speaker 3: are a week leader. You do not belong calling yourself
27:09
Speaker 3: a conservative when we finally get one elected and you
27:12
Speaker 3: just turn out to be a massive disappointment. But you've unwittingly,
27:16
Speaker 3: I think, put your finger on the very reason why
27:19
Speaker 3: he's not coming out.
27:20
Speaker 4: On any of these hot topic issues.
27:23
Speaker 3: He is doing well in the polls, and you cannot
27:25
Speaker 3: underestimate the amount of backdoor polling these guys do. Nearly
27:31
Speaker 3: everything that comes out of their mouth is due to
27:34
Speaker 3: what they've polled and they know where people stand.
27:37
Speaker 4: And this close to an election, this guy doesn't have
27:40
Speaker 4: a suicide mission.
27:41
Speaker 3: He's not going to be saying any of the things
27:44
Speaker 3: you want to hear. Hopefully, if and when he gets elected,
27:48
Speaker 3: he will then be like, Okay, now I have the
27:51
Speaker 3: care I can speak to these.
27:53
Speaker 2: Put your finger on one of the problems in our country.
27:55
Speaker 2: That a suicide mission. If you say gender is a
27:57
Speaker 2: fixed biological reality, that's sort of suicide mission. Almost the
28:01
Speaker 2: entire country would believe in you. If you said abortion, well, look,
28:06
Speaker 2: let's not say it's murder. Let's just say it should
28:08
Speaker 2: be rare, and it should be a last resort and
28:11
Speaker 2: it should not be celebrated on social media.
28:13
Speaker 1: Most of the country would agree with you. If you
28:16
Speaker 1: said that, you.
28:18
Speaker 2: Know, the euthanasia undermines the sanctity of life, most people
28:22
Speaker 2: would say, yeah, that's probably a point.
28:24
Speaker 1: It's not a suicide mission.
28:29
Speaker 4: An election.
28:30
Speaker 3: He is not going to touch those with a ten
28:32
Speaker 3: foot pole. I worked for local, federal, and state government
28:37
Speaker 3: for almost a decade. Trust me, He's not going to
28:40
Speaker 3: touch it. Of course, not going to touch it.
28:42
Speaker 8: It's a little something. It's a little something called democracy.
28:44
Speaker 8: And the reason he's not going to touch it. Is
28:46
Speaker 8: exactly what you said, which is that every single poll,
28:49
Speaker 8: all the all the private polling they've done behind closed
28:51
Speaker 8: or all the focus groups that they would have tested
28:53
Speaker 8: everything under the sunnin would be saying that, actually, no,
28:56
Speaker 8: most people is.
28:57
Speaker 2: Not what we criticize the labor politicians for. Didn't we
28:59
Speaker 2: say it's not everyone everyone does and I like them
29:05
Speaker 2: to be different.
29:06
Speaker 1: I'm believe it that just maybe you have a conservative.
29:11
Speaker 8: The left does the exact same thing. Just look at
29:13
Speaker 8: Kamala Harris as casting all our old policies off like
29:17
Speaker 8: so much ballast because they know that when it actually
29:20
Speaker 8: comes to the crunch, the electorate sits pretty much somewhere
29:23
Speaker 8: in the middle, and if you're seen as being too
29:25
Speaker 8: far to the left or too far to the right,
29:26
Speaker 8: you are not going to get elected, even if you
29:28
Speaker 8: have a seemingly unbeatable lead like David Chris.
29:31
Speaker 2: You're now saying that to say that a man is
29:34
Speaker 2: a man, a woman is a woman and you can't
29:35
Speaker 2: cross from one to the other, that will is now
29:39
Speaker 2: so unsayable that you would you would dare not say it.
29:41
Speaker 7: For fee I think clearly.
29:43
Speaker 8: I mean, I know people will have crossed from one
29:45
Speaker 8: to the other, and so yes, I would certainly say
29:47
Speaker 8: that that most people would Most people I don't think
29:51
Speaker 8: would be on board with, you know, the kind of
29:53
Speaker 8: crazy ideas of seventy two different genders or genifal whitdeo
29:56
Speaker 8: or whatever things like that.
29:57
Speaker 7: And I should say my.
29:58
Speaker 8: Wife works for the advocacy group of Quality Australia which
30:01
Speaker 8: does these issues. But I think the vast majority of
30:03
Speaker 8: people would understand that that you can be born in
30:08
Speaker 8: a body that you do not think is actually yours.
30:10
Speaker 8: There count I think that do you not think they
30:13
Speaker 8: not feel whatever you want to call it, but is
30:15
Speaker 8: it true?
30:16
Speaker 7: Yes, born in the wrong bo same as if you're
30:19
Speaker 7: born gay.
30:20
Speaker 1: The majority of Australians don't subscribe to that.
30:22
Speaker 7: I think, I think absolutely they do.
30:23
Speaker 1: Maybe they do foolish.
30:27
Speaker 7: The most would have.
30:28
Speaker 8: Encountered, but most would know people like Carlotta for example,
30:31
Speaker 8: my beautiful friend Carol, how are you?
30:33
Speaker 7: And you know?
30:34
Speaker 8: And Sky News viewers would know Kate McGregor, and so
30:38
Speaker 8: you know if you accept that those two people a
30:41
Speaker 8: very high profile in the case of Kate McGregor, very
30:44
Speaker 8: well respected, conservative, brilliant cricket were born and a brilliant
30:46
Speaker 8: cricket writer. If they were born male but all their
30:51
Speaker 8: lives believe they are female and have now taken on
30:54
Speaker 8: that role physically as well become that physically as well.
30:58
Speaker 3: I think they haven't become that physically as well as
31:01
Speaker 3: a woman.
31:01
Speaker 7: No, I'm sorropy.
31:04
Speaker 4: You can look amazing, but.
31:07
Speaker 2: There's no question that people believe that to be their reality.
31:11
Speaker 2: But on the other hand, most people would say, you
31:13
Speaker 2: know what, I still fall back to biology, which is
31:15
Speaker 2: gender is a fixed biological reality.
31:18
Speaker 7: Yesterday is a.
31:19
Speaker 8: Fixed biological reality, but the concept of gender is slightly different.
31:24
Speaker 3: Well, moving on to what happens when we do have
31:27
Speaker 3: week leaders who will not take this issue and simply
31:31
Speaker 3: declare biological reality as an indisputable fact. To the state
31:36
Speaker 3: of California, which in July Governor Newsome passed the nation's
31:42
Speaker 3: first bill of its type, which meant that, sorry, I
31:47
Speaker 3: want to get this right. Educators do not have to
31:50
Speaker 3: tell parents if their kids are transitioning at school. So
31:55
Speaker 3: if their kids want to go by a different name,
31:57
Speaker 3: if their kids want to use different pronouns, this school.
32:00
Speaker 4: Does not have to tell the parents.
32:04
Speaker 3: This is the bill that made Elon musk Up and
32:07
Speaker 3: leave California and relocate his company X to Texas.
32:13
Speaker 4: He was so outraged by the fact.
32:15
Speaker 3: The governor Newsom in the state of California seemed to
32:18
Speaker 3: think that the state can now own your kids and
32:21
Speaker 3: transition them behind your backs. He was like, right, well,
32:25
Speaker 3: you've lost my business and I'm out of here. Well,
32:29
Speaker 3: one of the local councils in California, the city of
32:35
Speaker 3: Huntington Beach, is now suing the state.
32:39
Speaker 4: It's got nine families.
32:41
Speaker 3: In this little class action business that they've got going on.
32:45
Speaker 3: These are families who have been affected by this, whose
32:48
Speaker 3: children were transitioned at school without their knowledge. Lena not
32:54
Speaker 3: her real name, one of the mothers of a trans
32:57
Speaker 3: teen who is no longer trans speaks to this issue.
33:01
Speaker 3: She says, if I had known that they socially transition
33:04
Speaker 3: kids at school behind parents, fact, I would have never
33:07
Speaker 3: put her in public school. I would never give up
33:10
Speaker 3: on her or any child. She is my child, not
33:14
Speaker 3: the schools, not the states, or this country's well said lady.
33:19
Speaker 3: So this is going to be a court case to
33:22
Speaker 3: keep a good eye on, because this is going to
33:25
Speaker 3: set a very important precedent. While California is the only
33:28
Speaker 3: one to have these laws in the United States of America.
33:32
Speaker 3: This is the first time it's been properly challenged.
33:35
Speaker 4: It's by nine families.
33:37
Speaker 3: City of Huntington Beach seems to be a really based
33:41
Speaker 3: city in California, by the way, because we were talking
33:43
Speaker 3: about them just last week, and they were the ones
33:46
Speaker 3: who ran a poll and said we want voter ID
33:49
Speaker 3: in our city this election. Governor Newsom also scuffered that
33:54
Speaker 3: move by the city. But here they are again making
33:56
Speaker 3: headlines all the way here in Australia because they're now
33:59
Speaker 3: taking on the state.
34:00
Speaker 4: Regarding this horrific policy.
34:03
Speaker 3: That means the state does get the final say of
34:06
Speaker 3: what's happening with your kid at school.
34:09
Speaker 2: And these lawsuits hopefully will soon be coming to a
34:12
Speaker 2: suburb near you because these laws are similar here in Australia.
34:16
Speaker 2: Have a look at this from the Victorian Government's Safe
34:19
Speaker 2: School's website, where they advise on parental consent regarding trans issues.
34:24
Speaker 2: It says there may be circumstances in which students wish
34:28
Speaker 2: or need to undertake gender transition without the consent of
34:31
Speaker 2: their parents or carers, and or without consulting medical practitioners.
34:35
Speaker 2: If no agreement can be reached between the student and
34:38
Speaker 2: the parents regarding the student's gender identity, or if the
34:41
Speaker 2: parents will not consent to the contents of a student
34:44
Speaker 2: support plan, it will be necessary for the school to
34:47
Speaker 2: consider whether the student is a mature minor, the implication
34:51
Speaker 2: being then they would help this student to socially transition
34:54
Speaker 2: at school, with or without the parents' knowledge or consent.
34:58
Speaker 2: So great that there's a lo also in the United States,
35:01
Speaker 2: but I tell you state governments and in Queensland as well,
35:05
Speaker 2: I'm begging for lawsuits.
35:06
Speaker 8: Certainly die to their friendly safe schools. But the key
35:10
Speaker 8: difference there is that this there does at least have
35:13
Speaker 8: to be some attempt to get the consent or some
35:16
Speaker 8: attempt at consultation with a parent.
35:17
Speaker 3: Some attempt no, because in what we just read there
35:23
Speaker 3: it doesn't rule out so it basically says, if.
35:27
Speaker 4: There can be no agreements between.
35:29
Speaker 8: That's right, then I can proceed, But it can't be
35:31
Speaker 8: done without a parent's knowledge.
35:32
Speaker 3: I could easily consist of the child simply telling the
35:35
Speaker 3: school my parents aren't on.
35:37
Speaker 4: Board with this. They would be so mad, et cetera,
35:40
Speaker 4: and so on.
35:40
Speaker 3: It doesn't rule out that scenario, and that is what
35:44
Speaker 3: it's referring to which gives the school in Victoria the
35:48
Speaker 3: power to transition your kid. Let's go to a leader
35:50
Speaker 3: now that we'd all love to see in Australia, just one.
35:54
Speaker 3: Can we just have one Australia who talks like this
35:58
Speaker 3: when it comes to the garbage kids are taught in school.
36:01
Speaker 9: On this matter, I will support universal school choice. We
36:10
Speaker 9: will get critical race theory and transgender insanity the hell
36:14
Speaker 9: out of our schools immediately, and we will keep men
36:20
Speaker 9: out of women's sports.
36:26
Speaker 4: Incredible, word for word.
36:28
Speaker 3: Can they just copy paste and to be like not
36:31
Speaker 3: in schools leave the kids alone?
36:33
Speaker 4: Are you?
36:33
Speaker 2: Are you saying he's just saying stuff without first look
36:36
Speaker 2: at the polling. So it can be done, if only
36:39
Speaker 2: someone in Australia would do the same thing.
36:41
Speaker 3: He's got different polling over there. I'm telling you what
36:45
Speaker 3: we're told.
36:45
Speaker 1: You were to go to a break.
36:46
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news
36:48
Speaker 2: in the papers, including Peter Beatty format Labor Queensland absolutely
36:52
Speaker 2: gives it to the Albanezi government over their Middle Eastern policy.
36:55
Speaker 1: That's coming up in a moment.
37:00
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. Let's take a look at what's
37:02
Speaker 2: making news. Tomorrow. We were talking earlier about this act.
37:05
Speaker 2: Gren's candidate who compared Jesus and Osama bin Laden Joe.
37:09
Speaker 1: She's on the front page of the Camera Times.
37:11
Speaker 8: Again, in her defense, they're both long haired, bearded and
37:14
Speaker 8: wear roads, so it'd be very easy to confuse the two,
37:17
Speaker 8: I would think. But he's on the front page of
37:19
Speaker 8: the Camera Times. It's just it's amazing. Anyway, she's on
37:24
Speaker 8: the front page of Canbra Times. Candidates martyrdom post quote
37:28
Speaker 8: creative writing, as we discussed here, creative writing that gets
37:31
Speaker 8: more and more creative because she's gone back in and
37:33
Speaker 8: changed it again. I guess, you know, I like with
37:36
Speaker 8: a lot of great writers, a lot of great poets.
37:38
Speaker 8: You know, it's never quite finished, the work has never
37:40
Speaker 8: quite finished, going in there just to tweak it a bit,
37:43
Speaker 8: you know, just to really make it see anyway, But
37:46
Speaker 8: the thing that the thing that got me about this
37:49
Speaker 8: story is just ABA. This is the response of Chief
37:51
Speaker 8: Minister Andrew Barr, who is the Labor Chief Minister Labor Left,
37:56
Speaker 8: I should.
37:56
Speaker 7: Stress, Chief Minister of the AB, of the ABC and
37:59
Speaker 7: the AC.
38:00
Speaker 8: But he needs I believe that he still needs the
38:03
Speaker 8: Greens to form a majority in the Legislative Assembly. And
38:06
Speaker 8: this is him taking a tough stand against this outrageous
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Speaker 8: act of terror, terrorist and terrorism adjacent writing. He's the
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Speaker 8: chief Minister. Andrew Barr said what miss Rangaa Jan had
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Speaker 8: written was.
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Speaker 7: Quote not good.
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Speaker 8: Oh that's got a sting. He's going to be remembering that.
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Speaker 8: She's going to be tasting that for years to come.
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Speaker 8: Not good, and said it was up to the act
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Speaker 8: Greens to clear the air and settle the matter. Whoa
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Speaker 8: more strong language, but get this, Get this is I mean, seriously,
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Speaker 8: this guy. You do not want to cross him. Death
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Speaker 8: is too good for his enemies. You ready quote. I
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Speaker 8: don't think it should stand. It should be taken down.
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Speaker 4: He said.
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Speaker 7: Wow.
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Speaker 8: He said that comparing Jesus Christ to asamab in Laden
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Speaker 8: and praising them both as wonderful martyrs is so incredibly
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Speaker 8: offensive that the Greens should quote clear the air, and
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Speaker 8: that he thinks the blog post should be taken down.
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Speaker 1: Record.
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Speaker 8: Not that I was going to put it in giant
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Speaker 8: let us on mount Ainsley. I thought that would be
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Speaker 8: a tough enough punishment. But this guy records that needs
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Speaker 8: to be taken down. Holy moly, don't cross it. These
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Speaker 8: political enemies must have been quaking in their boots right now.
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Speaker 8: I thought rich O was tough. If this guy wh.
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Speaker 4: She shouldn't be running.
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Speaker 3: He's not saying act Greens, get rid of this lady.
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Speaker 3: What are you doing first of all running a twenty
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Speaker 3: year old, but a twenty year old with this kind
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Speaker 3: of rhetoric about terrorists, do me a favor.
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Speaker 4: He's not saying anything like that. He's just like, oh,
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Speaker 4: you just take the bows down. Problem solved.
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Speaker 3: Its what a career politician Andrew Bah, Yeah.
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Speaker 7: That should be taken down.
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Speaker 8: You know what isis keep putting those beheading videos on
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Speaker 8: social media and now it would really show them if.
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Speaker 7: We told them to take them down.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, takedown perfect fixes everythings the problem.
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Speaker 2: Let's move on to the front page of tomorrow's cans Post.
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Speaker 2: You remember a while ago a helicopter has flown into
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Speaker 2: the top of a hotel, killing the pilot. Well, there's
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Speaker 2: been an investigation findings released after fatal flight. Pilot drinking
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Speaker 2: before crash, reads the headline. A twenty three year old
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Speaker 2: cans Man who crashed a Nautilus Aviation helicopter into a
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Speaker 2: city hotel was affected by alcohol after drinking on a
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Speaker 2: night out with mates before the fatal flight, and investigation
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Speaker 2: has found. The Australian Transport Safety Bureau has finalized its
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Speaker 2: report after a helicopter plowed into the roof of the
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Speaker 2: Double Tree by Hilton Hotel in Cans in the early
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Speaker 2: hours on August twelfth. The investigation found that Blake Wilson,
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Speaker 2: who was able to fly that particular helicopter, he'd just
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Speaker 2: never been in it at night and he hadn't been
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Speaker 2: given permission to fly.
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Speaker 7: That a pretty big qualification.
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Speaker 2: Too fairly large qualifications. He was out drinking till all hours.
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Speaker 2: He left his apartment at just after one am in
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Speaker 2: the morning, took off in the chopper at one forty
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Speaker 2: seven am, crashing it at one point fifty one am.
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Speaker 2: And the entire thing was due to alcohol. He was
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Speaker 2: flying very low, he flew over his own apartment a
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Speaker 2: couple of times and clearly obviously affected by alcohol, misjudged
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Speaker 2: flew into the hotel. So that's your investigation was, that's
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Speaker 2: what happened, Liza, You've got the Australian I.
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Speaker 3: Do indeed, big splash reads Labor in a two state
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Speaker 3: day dream. Labor elder Peter Beattie has condemned the Albanesi
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Speaker 3: government's core Middle East policies, warning that a two state
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Speaker 3: solution is a quote day dream end quote unless Israel's
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Speaker 3: enemies accept It's right to exist, and that ceasefires will
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Speaker 3: fail without the backing of the region and major powers.
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Speaker 3: Be to Beatty telling Labor that the skies blue.
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Speaker 4: Do you think they'll listen?
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Speaker 2: Well really now, of course, But he gets stuck into
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Speaker 2: labor leadership. He talks about the argument has been hijacked
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Speaker 2: by extremists amid a collapse in political leadership.
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Speaker 1: Well, who would that be referring to?
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Speaker 2: He goes on to talk about in the Western world
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Speaker 2: public policy cowards who have undermined political debate. He talks
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Speaker 2: about politicians spouting gibberish which now passes as leadership. It's
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Speaker 2: a pretty harsh critique of the lack of leadership that
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi has given.
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Speaker 8: This issue well again, as has become a running theme
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Speaker 8: on this show, politicians, when they no longer need to
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Speaker 8: be elected or to be accountable to people, suddenly find
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Speaker 8: their opinions much.
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Speaker 7: Liberated, shall we say?
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Speaker 8: And go byma the other bed I really like Peter Betty.
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Speaker 1: And a fair point, but he's not wrong I.
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Speaker 8: Think he's right, of course, of course, but again we
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Speaker 8: come back to that problem. Can you properly separate? Can
42:59
Speaker 8: you draw a lot between Hamas and the Palestinian population
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Speaker 8: that elected them just a decade or so ago. I
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Speaker 8: don't think there's been any elections since. Can you draw
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Speaker 8: a line between Hezbollah and the populations of southern Leamonine
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Speaker 8: and when they have been so infused.
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Speaker 2: That's one other part of this article that I was
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Speaker 2: shocked to read. The Australian can reveal the government is
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Speaker 2: rolling out thirty million dollars in funding for Australia's Palestinian
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Speaker 2: and Muslim communities. The funding grant is to help social cohesion.
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Speaker 2: I'm surprised that the Muslim community are getting thirty million
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Speaker 2: dollars for social cohesion.
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Speaker 4: Are you really surprised?
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Speaker 1: I am surprised.
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Speaker 2: I would have thought it's a Jewish community that needing
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Speaker 2: extra security and assistances.
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Speaker 3: When we're talking about this government, not the one you
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Speaker 3: wish you had.
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Speaker 8: Sure that the moderate, peace loving Muslims in our community
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Speaker 8: have the resources they need to.
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Speaker 1: When I love them, I'd love to find them.
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Speaker 7: They're everywhere, They're everywhere.
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Speaker 8: I've got to say that I just love well an
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Speaker 8: interesting thing as long as I'm dishing out free advice
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Speaker 8: on the show. Another little story at the bottom of
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Speaker 8: the eyes. Super retail chair ordered emails deleted. Court told
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Speaker 8: a super Retail Group chair Sally Pittkin, allegedly ordered an
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Speaker 8: employee to delete her email account to conceal whistleblower complaints
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Speaker 8: of an affair between the company CEO and human resources boss,
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Speaker 8: according to claims in new court documents.
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Speaker 7: Now, I'm not.
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Speaker 8: Going to pass judgment on the allegations involved or the
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Speaker 8: veracity of the claims.
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Speaker 2: You are, I hope you are, But I will say
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Speaker 2: that judgment if we are.
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Speaker 7: Going to try to cover something up, if allegedly.
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Speaker 8: Allegedly you are going to try to cover something up
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Speaker 8: by deleting all the emails that could potentially reflect poorly
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Speaker 8: on you, insaid court case or ensuing investigation, allegedly allegedly
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Speaker 8: allegedly do it yourself.
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Speaker 7: To do it, because what now you have to kill them?
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Speaker 7: You don't want that day? Then you coming that up?
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Speaker 1: Oh my god inher.
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Speaker 3: Okay, this is this is unendorsed advice by Joe Hildebrand.
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Speaker 7: Give me a call. I'll talk you through it. Here's
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Speaker 7: you know, honestly, Bob, I've.
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Speaker 8: Got all these incriminating emails on my servant. Do you
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Speaker 8: know how I can delete them all? What's another for it?
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Speaker 7: Again?
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Speaker 8: You don't have the health desk? Yeah, I can't say sorry,
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Speaker 8: gone through the Philippines. Oh yeah, hi Shwan, could you
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Speaker 8: just help me delete all those potentially dodgy Oh my.
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Speaker 1: Quick, Joe before we go.
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Speaker 7: The sorry quickly sorry betting secret. We're talking about this well.
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Speaker 8: Premier Allen has made a formal apology to Victoria's stolen
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Speaker 8: generations that is absolutely wonderful, except no one actually saw
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Speaker 8: or heard her do it. She did it in a
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Speaker 8: private meeting and then tweeted about it later.
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Speaker 1: So so she's apologizing on me.
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Speaker 2: Half of Victorians been insisting Victorians aren't allowed to know
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Speaker 2: about it, the Victorian media aren't allowed.
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Speaker 1: To report it. But she's done it on behalf of Victorians.
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Speaker 4: Do you have to defeat the whole purpose? Like you're
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Speaker 4: a premier. It's all about the photo op.
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Speaker 3: It's all about fronting up and being like, we are
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Speaker 3: so sorry. Did it in the National Parliament exactly so
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Speaker 3: you know, it's one of those if a rock falls
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Speaker 3: in the forest and no one hears a fall.
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Speaker 4: Did it really fall? I mean, how do we even
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Speaker 4: find out about it?
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Speaker 2: Runs a state like it belongs to her. We're going
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Speaker 2: to go to a break. When we come back. German
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Speaker 2: police shocked to find the speed camera capatures the Cookie
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Speaker 2: Monster hurtling down a highway that's coming up in a moment,
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Speaker 2: we'll show you the police vision. Okay, Liz, you've got
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Speaker 2: a hilarious story from Germany.
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Speaker 1: Tell us about it.
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Speaker 3: I do too, As we know, you can't get a
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Speaker 3: speeding find these days without getting a new profile picture.
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Speaker 3: The cameras are everywhere, and there's no denying that it
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Speaker 3: was you who did the deed, because they've got a
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Speaker 3: photo of you. Well in that, imagine the German cops
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Speaker 3: flipping through their photos and realizing they caught the Cookie
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Speaker 3: Monster doing fifty miles an hour in a no, sixty
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Speaker 3: miles an hour in a fifty mile an hour zone.
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Speaker 4: What a well, well, this guy's up for a fine.
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Speaker 3: But how were they to know who was indeed driving?
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Speaker 3: I'm quietly taking notes here. So they did finally catch
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Speaker 3: the culprit and hear his.
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Speaker 4: His official interview with the police force.
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Speaker 1: See is for Cookie that's good enough for me. See
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Speaker 1: is for cookie? That's good enough for me?
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Speaker 7: See is for cookies?
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Speaker 1: That's good enough for me?
47:45
Speaker 7: Call cooking cookie cookies doves.
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Speaker 4: Just jokes.
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Speaker 3: But the police weren't finding it very funny at all.
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Speaker 3: In fact, they're quoted as saying the fun of wearing
47:57
Speaker 3: a mask from a Muppet show can quickly turn seera.
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Speaker 4: It won't help the relatives of a.
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Speaker 3: Person who has been killed if the person who did.
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Speaker 4: It tearfully regrets their mask fun in course.
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Speaker 7: How to bus kill?
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Speaker 3: Can it impede your how much vision you can see?
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Speaker 2: But can I just say this is why the police
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Speaker 2: are so inept the Muppet Show.
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Speaker 1: It's Jerry Street. They're not going to catch him now.
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Speaker 7: Thank you? Another wrong show. That was the first thing
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Speaker 7: I thought before we go.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you about Victoria's most interesting lorn bowler,
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Speaker 2: Bruce Hallman. He just passed away recently, having been a
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Speaker 2: member of the Doncaster Bowls Club.
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Speaker 1: For fifteen years. But here's the story.
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Speaker 2: After he died, he left more than a million dollars,
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Speaker 2: not to the Doncaster Bowls Club, where he'd been a
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Speaker 2: member fifteen years, but to his arch rivals, the Donviale
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Speaker 2: Club just up the road.
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Speaker 1: Now, the Don Vale Club were.
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Speaker 2: So surprised, actually actually had to ask members, does anybody
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Speaker 2: know this guy who's just left us a million bucks?
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Speaker 2: His own club thought it must have been a mistake,
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Speaker 2: so they took legal action, saying he must have gotten
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Speaker 2: confused and forgotten which bowling club he was a part of.
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Speaker 2: But apparently five years ago he attended an open day
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Speaker 2: at the Rival Club and they picked him up from home,
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Speaker 2: took him there, gave him beers, took him back. He
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Speaker 2: was so enamored with it and so grateful he left
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Speaker 2: all the money to the Rival club.
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Speaker 8: Wow, I think you know a god, what a fair weather.
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Speaker 1: That's it from us.
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Speaker 2: We're going to go, But coming up is the Rita
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Speaker 2: Pennety show stick around