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- 0:00Hi everybody and welcome back to the Elon Musk podcast, where we
- 0:04talk about innovation, technology and of course the
- 0:06latest developments in the fascinating life and ventures of
- 0:09Elon Musk. Today we're covering a story
- 0:11that's been gaining a lot of attention.
- 0:13Linda Yakorino, the new CEO of X, the social media and platform
- 0:17formerly known as Twitter, is gearing up to meet with seven
- 0:20banks that finance Elon Musk's acquisition of the company.
- 0:25Now Yakorino, who took to the CEO seat in June, plans to
- 0:28discuss her strategy for reviving the platform's
- 0:31financial health with executives from Morgan Stanley, Bank of
- 0:34America, Barclays, MUF GB, NP and Mizuho and Societ Generale
- 0:42on October 5th. Now this meeting is crucial to
- 0:45Yacorino. She aims to instill confidence
- 0:48in Ex's bankers that she can breathe new life into the social
- 0:51media platform, which was faced with declining revenues and a
- 0:55myriad of other challenges. The bankers, who hold about $13
- 0:59billion in debt related to the acquisition, are eager to hear
- 1:03how Yakirino plans to attract advertisers back to the platform
- 1:07and possibly diversify into subscriptions and payments in
- 1:11the future. Just a few days ago, Yakirino
- 1:14faced some tough questions at the Code Conference,
- 1:16particularly about user metrics and the platform's business
- 1:20model. Her performance at the
- 1:21conference left some people skeptical about the direction of
- 1:25which X is headed. The new CEO has also been
- 1:29questioned about her relationship with Elon Musk and
- 1:31how his influence might impact the platform, especially in the
- 1:34context of attracting advertisers now.
- 1:37Yacorino did mention that the company is close to breaking
- 1:40even from an operational cash flow standpoint and expects to
- 1:43turn a profit by early of 2024. The statement, alongside the
- 1:48revelation that X currently has 245,000,000 daily active users,
- 1:53provided some level of assurance, but questions still
- 1:56linger now among the banks. This is apprehensive.
- 2:00They have been shouldering the $13 billion debt tied to X's
- 2:04acquisition for almost a year now.
- 2:06They also had to reject offers to buy some of the senior debt
- 2:09at a significant discount, opting instead to hold on to it
- 2:13in hopes that the company's fortunes would improve.
- 2:16And a significant issue Yakarino faces is the decline in the
- 2:19platform's advertising revenue, which dropped 60% since the
- 2:23takeover. And some of this decline is
- 2:25rooted in broader economic worries.
- 2:27But a chunk can also be attributed to Musk's less
- 2:30traditional approach to running the platform, including relaxing
- 2:33moderation policies. Although Musk himself
- 2:36acknowledged the drop in revenues, he noted that the
- 2:39platform was still covering its initial costs of around $1.5
- 2:43billion a year, even before the takeover.
- 2:47Twitter, now X, was facing difficulties in maintaining
- 2:50advertising revenues and big name companies had started
- 2:54pulling out their advertising budgets, partly due to fears of
- 2:58an impending recession, but also because of concerns about Musk's
- 3:01handling of the platform. Despite these setbacks, Yacorino
- 3:05has pointed out some positive trends.
- 3:07In a recent interview, she revealed that 90% of the
- 3:09platform's top 100 global spenders have resumed
- 3:13advertising on X. However, the exact amounts
- 3:16they're spending remain undisclosed.
- 3:19One of the most intriguing dynamics is the relationship
- 3:21between Yacorino and Elon Musk. During interviews, Yacorino was
- 3:24asked whether Musk consults with her on major decisions like
- 3:28potentially moving the platform to a subscription model.
- 3:30While she didn't give a straightforward answer, she
- 3:33emphasized her broader role in running the company.
- 3:35Jacorino has a background of advertising and was formerly the
- 3:39head of advertising sales at NBC Universal.
- 3:42Her expertise in this area could be vital in drawing advertisers
- 3:45back to the platform, but her vision appears to extend beyond
- 3:48just advertising revenue. She's also made it clear that
- 3:51she's not just there to head the advertising department, but to
- 3:54held the entire organization. And in this complex interplay,
- 3:58Must continues to have a strong influence, especially in the
- 4:01product side of things. This isn't necessarily seen as a
- 4:03drawback, given Musk's known proficiency and technological
- 4:07ovation. Now, as Linda Yakirino prepares
- 4:10for this critical meeting, she's juggling several balls at once.
- 4:13Not only is she dealing with operational challenges, but
- 4:16she's also navigating the waters of public opinion and grappling
- 4:19with the responsibility of reassuring nervous bankers.
- 4:22And at the same time, she's working closely with one of the
- 4:24most prominent and unpredictable tech entrepreneurs over time,
- 4:28Elon Musk. There are also other matters to
- 4:31attend to, such as the allegations of inadequate
- 4:33actions against hate speech and disinformation.
- 4:36Yacorino has defended Access new direction, emphasizing its
- 4:40commitment to free expression, but the jury is still out on how
- 4:43this will play out in the long run.
- 4:45Allies are on the upcoming meeting, which has the potential
- 4:48to define the future of X and by extension impact the fortunes of
- 4:52the seven banks involved and possibly reshape the social
- 4:55media ecosystem. Now let's shift our focus to a
- 4:58topic that's been picking up steam in the recent years,
- 5:01namely the role of commercial satellites in military
- 5:04operations and the implications for national security.
- 5:08Just last week, General Chant Saltzman, who is a high ranked
- 5:12official in the US Space Force, spoke at a conference in Hawaii.
- 5:15His remarks have added a new layer to the ongoing
- 5:18conversations about the responsibility of the military
- 5:21and safeguarding commercial assets in space like Starlink.
- 5:25Now the focal point here is the increased dependence of the US
- 5:28military on commercial networks for tests like communication and
- 5:31surveillance. And General Saltzman's comments
- 5:34not only reiterated the rising threats from nations like China
- 5:37and Russia, but also explicitly address the role of the military
- 5:41in defending commercial satellites.
- 5:43Give a concrete example. The hypothetical situation was
- 5:45posed about how the US military would act if Russia targeted
- 5:49Spacex's Starlink broadband network, a commercial satellite
- 5:53system that's been used for Internet connectivity by Ukraine
- 5:56in its conflict with Russia. Now the situation surrounding
- 6:00the military's role in protecting commercial assets and
- 6:02spaces both complex and nuanced. While General Saltzman did not
- 6:07directly respond to the hypothetical situation
- 6:09concerning an attack on Spacex's Starlink network, he did make it
- 6:13clear that the US military sees a role for itself in
- 6:16safeguarding commercial activities in space.
- 6:19His argument extends a well established philosophy of U.S.
- 6:23policy to protect vital assets. Saltman compared space to sea
- 6:28lanes and civilian airliner traffic, highlighting that the
- 6:31same protective principles could apply in the extraterrestrial
- 6:34domain. And to implement this kind of
- 6:37defense, operations would likely be channeled through the US
- 6:40Space Command, an entity district from the Space Force.
- 6:45Now, Space Command's purpose is to provide combatant commands
- 6:48with the resources and technology required for the
- 6:51missions. It's led by the US Army General
- 6:54James Dickinson, who interestingly did not give a
- 6:57clear cut answer to a similar query regarding the defense of
- 7:00commercial satellites. According to Saltzman, the
- 7:03responsibility of deciding which commercial assets to protect
- 7:07ultimately falls under the purview of space command and
- 7:10higher level civilian leadership.
- 7:12He spoke of the need for setting priorities, suggesting that
- 7:15there could be limitations on the extent to which the military
- 7:19can protect commercial satellites.
- 7:21Such limitations would likely be determined by capacity strategy
- 7:25in the value of the assets involved.
- 7:28Last October, Russia weighed in on the subject.
- 7:31A deputy director in Russia's Foreign Ministry flagged the use
- 7:34of Western commercial satellites by Ukraine as a highly risky
- 7:38trend. And while he did not need
- 7:41specific satellites, the implication was that he was
- 7:43talking about Spacex's Starlink. Now, this points to an
- 7:47international aspect of commercial satellites becoming
- 7:49potentially military targets. Similarly, Tara Brown, an
- 7:53official in the Royal Air Force and a professor at the US Naval
- 7:57War College who specializes in space law, concluded that
- 8:00civilian satellites used for wartime objectives could
- 8:03essentially be considered military targets.
- 8:06The international community seems to be inching toward a
- 8:08consensus that these commercial assets, once used for military
- 8:11purposes, enter a new category of vulnerability.
- 8:15As we venture further into this era of increasing
- 8:17interdependence between commercial and military
- 8:20operations in space, the points made by General Saltzman bring
- 8:23essential questions into focus. What are the limits of military
- 8:27involvement in protecting commercial assets in space, and
- 8:30who gets to decide these limits? And how will international laws
- 8:34adapt to these new challenges? The dialogue surrounding the
- 8:37defense of commercial satellites is still evolving, but it is
- 8:40undoubtedly a matter of critical importance.
- 8:42It will continue to gain attention from both military and
- 8:46civilian leadership. This topic brings in a relief
- 8:49the necessity for an integrated and well thought out approach to
- 8:52safeguarding what might become some of the most valued assets
- 8:55of the 21st century. I want to say thank you for
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