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- 0:04Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football into the open field.
- 0:10Speaker 1: It's gonna go. It is Monday, August. This is Jaguars
- 0:21Speaker 1: Happy Hour, Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans.
- 0:29Speaker 1: And now a man whose unexpected retirement would go completely unnoticed.
- 0:35Speaker 1: J Peace shad Rick. I wouldn't get booed either. Welcommand
- 0:41Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour by Jet Home Loans. I get booed anyway.
- 0:45Speaker 1: You make it boot boot boom. We want to show
- 0:47Speaker 1: up J P. Jadrick. That's Jeff Lockerman. Tony Busellly Loggs
- 0:52Speaker 1: is in tonight for Pete Priscoe Peters in Kansas City
- 0:56Speaker 1: chasing an m v P quarterback. Interviewers told so, um,
- 1:00Speaker 1: thanks for sitting in tonight, lot sure if I mean,
- 1:03Speaker 1: holy cow, were you guys like me over the weekend stuff.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Here's what's going on in the show tonight. We'll get
- 1:10Speaker 1: to that in just a moment. Andrew Luck retiring and
- 1:13Speaker 1: obviously the huge news in the a f C South.
- 1:16Speaker 1: We'll get back to Josh Allen's performance. That's been the
- 1:19Speaker 1: talk of the town over the weekend. I think until
- 1:21Speaker 1: the Andrew Luck stuff. Some new defensive looks for this team.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Where the Jaguars offense stand after Week three of the preseason.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Some cuts coming up down the line. Doug Marone hates
- 1:32Speaker 1: this week, and we'll go around the National Football League
- 1:34Speaker 1: as well. Lots stick get to tonight, A jam pack program.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Busy weekend, busy and then actually wasn't that busy for
- 1:40Speaker 1: the Jags. And just I think the the whole I
- 1:44Speaker 1: mean the whole Andrew Luck thing, I think shook the
- 1:46Speaker 1: whole league. And then the controversy or the arguments about
- 1:49Speaker 1: whether he's right wrong and different timing wise, and then
- 1:54Speaker 1: the secondary thing, which is probably more important. This whole
- 1:56Speaker 1: organization is now wide open. The division becomes sort of
- 2:00Speaker 1: changes the look of the division because I thought the
- 2:02Speaker 1: Colts were clearly the favorite after what they did last
- 2:04Speaker 1: year and the roster, and I still think it is
- 2:06Speaker 1: a very good roster. And and but with Andrew Luck,
- 2:08Speaker 1: I thought was the best quarterback, they were the favorite.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Him gone, It changes a lot of things, so a lot.
- 2:13Speaker 1: It was an interesting weekend. I didn't believe it. I
- 2:18Speaker 1: didn't believe it. I had a double check the tweet.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Just somebody had asked me the question what I thought
- 2:23Speaker 1: about Andrew Luck. And I'm like, what are you talking about?
- 2:25Speaker 1: Because I was at the it was the Bold Cities
- 2:27Speaker 1: Showcase b football games at Bowls and also somebody asking
- 2:32Speaker 1: me about, Hey, what do you think about Andrew Luck.
- 2:33Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I think he's a great quarterback. What
- 2:36Speaker 1: do you what do you mean? They're like, you just
- 2:38Speaker 1: announced her? There was announced was he's gonna retire like whatever?
- 2:42Speaker 1: And I just completely ignored it. And then I realized
- 2:45Speaker 1: that it was true, and I was shocked, shocked, but
- 2:48Speaker 1: I was like at that point, how still was like
- 2:50Speaker 1: let me I just want to hear it from his mouth.
- 2:52Speaker 1: And then when you saw the the video clip and
- 2:56Speaker 1: the and the fans that were booming them and everything,
- 2:58Speaker 1: You're like, come on on, I mean, the fans, it
- 3:02Speaker 1: was too much. It was disappointed that they did, but
- 3:05Speaker 1: he was the franchise. He was the franchise, and it
- 3:08Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, and you know, your first reaction,
- 3:12Speaker 1: it's the wrong reaction, but it's an emotional reaction because
- 3:15Speaker 1: they're tied to their organization. They want to win, and
- 3:17Speaker 1: so I'm not saying it's okay, but there I mean,
- 3:20Speaker 1: I'm sure they woke up the next morning, We're probably
- 3:22Speaker 1: regretted a little bit, but at the time, everybody was
- 3:24Speaker 1: caught up in that moment that it's not how this
- 3:26Speaker 1: was supposed to go down. What we understand, he was
- 3:29Speaker 1: supposed to talk to the team and announce it the
- 3:31Speaker 1: next day at like three in the afternoon, and they
- 3:34Speaker 1: got leaked somehow, and that was not how it was
- 3:37Speaker 1: supposed to be at all. Well, it was shocking, like
- 3:41Speaker 1: Jeff said, But then if you as you look back
- 3:43Speaker 1: at the timeline, what has gone on. Something is not
- 3:47Speaker 1: right with his body, or how he is rehabbing it,
- 3:51Speaker 1: or his body is responding, or what is going on mentally,
- 3:54Speaker 1: like how he feels about the process, because I mean,
- 3:57Speaker 1: he got a calf. The story was it was a
- 4:00Speaker 1: caff injury in March April when he started coming back
- 4:03Speaker 1: to work out, that still got it. That then went
- 4:05Speaker 1: to a high ankle sprain and m R S. And
- 4:09Speaker 1: he has practiced twice since March and combining O t
- 4:13Speaker 1: AS in camp. So something was off. And you know
- 4:18Speaker 1: this is after coming missing seventeen because of the shoulder,
- 4:22Speaker 1: So his body is not responding. And I think mentally,
- 4:25Speaker 1: if you listen to what he said, he just couldn't
- 4:27Speaker 1: do anymore. And it's not just a season process, it's
- 4:31Speaker 1: a year round process. But here's the thing. I want
- 4:34Speaker 1: to say something because a lot of guys go through that. Listen,
- 4:37Speaker 1: rehabs a year round thing. Playing the NFL is a
- 4:39Speaker 1: year round and so what it told me, and this
- 4:43Speaker 1: is okay, I'm not being critical, it's fine, is that
- 4:46Speaker 1: he fell in love out of love with football or
- 4:50Speaker 1: and because the love of the game and what you
- 4:53Speaker 1: do has to be high enough to deal with all
- 4:57Speaker 1: the stuff that goes into being able to play. And
- 5:00Speaker 1: some point it's shifted where the pain in the rehab
- 5:04Speaker 1: and the mental the mental anguish and all the things
- 5:07Speaker 1: that go into doing your job as a professional athlete
- 5:12Speaker 1: in the NFL and as a quarterback, that got bigger
- 5:15Speaker 1: than how he felt about the game. And I want
- 5:17Speaker 1: to clarify something. Tony's not saying he doesn't love the game,
- 5:20Speaker 1: but the pain and the discomfort and the bad feelings
- 5:25Speaker 1: exceed the level of love that you have. He fell out,
- 5:27Speaker 1: But that's falling out of love with it. It's not.
- 5:29Speaker 1: That's not negative, it's not doesn't make like I heard
- 5:32Speaker 1: read things. Though he's soft, he's not watch Andrew Luck play,
- 5:36Speaker 1: he's anything but soft. Remember one year in my career
- 5:41Speaker 1: that that I was close to where he was at.
- 5:44Speaker 1: And it was the year before I came here, and
- 5:47Speaker 1: I had a shoulder that I was playing with that
- 5:49Speaker 1: needed reconstructing. I had torn pcl in my left knee.
- 5:54Speaker 1: I never missed a game, But playing like that and
- 5:57Speaker 1: living like that on a week to week basis, that's
- 5:59Speaker 1: no fun. No fun. And at the end of the season,
- 6:02Speaker 1: you have rehab and then you're like, you start feeling
- 6:05Speaker 1: better and you start feeling better about where you're gonna
- 6:07Speaker 1: be at. But I mean, imagine Andrew Luck where he
- 6:09Speaker 1: went through the rehab process for a couple of years
- 6:11Speaker 1: with his shoulder and and now he has an issue
- 6:14Speaker 1: that crops up with his with his leg and it's
- 6:17Speaker 1: not getting better. I mean, that's got to be emotional trainings.
- 6:21Speaker 1: And here here's the other reality. The reality is in
- 6:24Speaker 1: the National Football League and today than today's game. After
- 6:28Speaker 1: seven years in the National Football League, he has made generational,
- 6:32Speaker 1: life changing money. That's a fact. He's made more than
- 6:37Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars in his seven years in the
- 6:40Speaker 1: National Football And the in the clubs isn't going to
- 6:42Speaker 1: take back the twenty four that they could take. So
- 6:44Speaker 1: does does that factor in? Yeah, I mean it looks,
- 6:48Speaker 1: but that's why. But Jeff, that's why to where you
- 6:50Speaker 1: can say, look, I'm done. Yeah, but here's but this
- 6:53Speaker 1: is why I think he fell in love with out
- 6:55Speaker 1: of love with the game. Because there's a lot of
- 6:57Speaker 1: guys that rehab year around. There's a lot of guys
- 6:59Speaker 1: who deal with to enguish. There's a lot of guys
- 7:00Speaker 1: in this league and make a lot of money and
- 7:03Speaker 1: they continue to do it. Why Because they love the game.
- 7:06Speaker 1: That's what they love. That's I mean the past. Some
- 7:09Speaker 1: guys love the game, Tony. Some guys love the money
- 7:11Speaker 1: and something. Some guys love everything that comes along with it.
- 7:13Speaker 1: But my point is, but there's, like I got asked,
- 7:16Speaker 1: so this is gonna be something you're gonna see more
- 7:18Speaker 1: and more of because of all the money these guys make.
- 7:20Speaker 1: I don't think it is. You're gonna have it every
- 7:23Speaker 1: once in a while. I mean I remember it was
- 7:24Speaker 1: like four or five years ago the linebacker for the
- 7:27Speaker 1: forty Niners starter can't remember his name, and he had
- 7:30Speaker 1: a couple of concussions and he retired out of the blue.
- 7:32Speaker 1: When he was in the midst of his career, and
- 7:33Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh my gosh, CT and concussion scares, and
- 7:37Speaker 1: you're gonna have all these guys he was draft pick,
- 7:38Speaker 1: like second year, everyone's gonna start retiring because of the fear.
- 7:42Speaker 1: It's just me a trend. It's hasn't happened since. And
- 7:46Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is Andrew Luck and he is a guy
- 7:49Speaker 1: that wanted to do other things more than play the
- 7:52Speaker 1: game of football. But every guy in the NFL goes
- 7:56Speaker 1: through a process of the physical toll and the mental
- 8:00Speaker 1: all on their bodies. And I appreciate the fact that
- 8:03Speaker 1: he was raised right and he didn't have his identity
- 8:05Speaker 1: solely attached to football, and he was able to make
- 8:07Speaker 1: a decision for himself. Good for him, Well, the only
- 8:09Speaker 1: thing they would have been and I agree with you.
- 8:11Speaker 1: And the other reason I'll say that, obviously something where
- 8:14Speaker 1: the game just lost its luster is because he very
- 8:17Speaker 1: easily could have gone on I R and they offered
- 8:20Speaker 1: it to him, or he could have taken another eight
- 8:21Speaker 1: or nine weeks, no pressure of getting back, take your time,
- 8:24Speaker 1: get healthy and and come back for the end. And
- 8:29Speaker 1: he didn't even want to do that, So he was
- 8:31Speaker 1: done mentally, he was finished playing football and he couldn't
- 8:35Speaker 1: do it anymore. And if you know that, you don't
- 8:37Speaker 1: need to go out and you don't need to continue.
- 8:39Speaker 1: And so that's where I actually I with Jeb. I
- 8:41Speaker 1: respect the fact that he knew he was done. He
- 8:43Speaker 1: couldn't do it anymore. He couldn't drive himself mentally and
- 8:47Speaker 1: physically to get ready to play a game because he
- 8:50Speaker 1: didn't love it enough anymore. And that's not a criticism,
- 8:53Speaker 1: that's just a fact. The only the only thing that
- 8:57Speaker 1: I've heard people say the frustration isn't and it's fair
- 9:00Speaker 1: enough is why did he wait till the very right
- 9:02Speaker 1: before the season to do it and put the organization
- 9:05Speaker 1: in the position that he did. My point that is,
- 9:08Speaker 1: if you'd if you'd done it right before training camp,
- 9:10Speaker 1: what's different. They're not finding another quarterback, They're not going
- 9:14Speaker 1: here here. Here's the reality. Though he probably didn't come
- 9:16Speaker 1: to that conclusion until he actually made the decision and
- 9:18Speaker 1: called the team right, you know, I mean, looks sometimes
- 9:21Speaker 1: things happen like that, you know, in an off season.
- 9:24Speaker 1: I'm sure that he's like, oh, this is okay, because
- 9:27Speaker 1: he actually said that the season was one of the
- 9:30Speaker 1: most rewarding seasons he's ever had. So we obviously he
- 9:32Speaker 1: had fun the year and then to go back into
- 9:35Speaker 1: that Uh, I don't think he called like a dark
- 9:37Speaker 1: place of that cycle. I mean it was just too
- 9:40Speaker 1: much for him whatever. I mean. Look here, here's the thing,
- 9:43Speaker 1: what he has said. I take for exactly what has said.
- 9:47Speaker 1: I don't read anything into it. I don't try to
- 9:49Speaker 1: decipher anything out of it because I don't get the
- 9:51Speaker 1: impression that what Andrew Luck tells you and what is
- 9:54Speaker 1: reality are two different things. I believe that he's a
- 9:57Speaker 1: totally honest guy and he's up front. Doug Maron asked
- 10:01Speaker 1: about this yesterday, in fact, that his press conference at
- 10:04Speaker 1: the start of the practice week and an opposing head
- 10:07Speaker 1: coach in the division thinking about the other team's quarterback.
- 10:10Speaker 1: I know how difficult it is, I know how difficult
- 10:12Speaker 1: this game is. I don't know how great, great of
- 10:14Speaker 1: a competitor is. So um, I felt it was unfortunate.
- 10:18Speaker 1: You know that, you know, injuries or you know, take
- 10:22Speaker 1: a part of it, and I'm sure it must have
- 10:25Speaker 1: been very very difficult for him. Um, just just a
- 10:30Speaker 1: loss for the game. There's Doug Marone with you know
- 10:35Speaker 1: what a quote there that kind of summed it up
- 10:36Speaker 1: pretty easy. I think right there, and it is. It
- 10:39Speaker 1: is because he's a really good football, great football player,
- 10:42Speaker 1: great quarterback. UM loved his competitive nature, everything about it
- 10:46Speaker 1: about him, and he played hard. Everything you read, he
- 10:50Speaker 1: was a great teammate and everything. Obviously just a smart guy,
- 10:54Speaker 1: did it right. Here's the reality. The game goes on.
- 10:57Speaker 1: That's right. I mean, this is not I mean it's
- 11:01Speaker 1: a shock now, but nobody's gonna be thinking about it
- 11:03Speaker 1: week one. Jacoby Brissette is not worried about this when
- 11:06Speaker 1: he lines up, Nobody, the players and the coaches are
- 11:09Speaker 1: going to be thinking about it. But but look, this
- 11:11Speaker 1: is this is one of the I would say, the
- 11:13Speaker 1: most notable early retirements from the NFL in NFL history.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Bigger than Jim Brown, and he's right up there, bigger
- 11:21Speaker 1: Barry Sanders right up there. Just so you know, both
- 11:24Speaker 1: of those guys are Hall of famers. He's not going
- 11:26Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. I still say that this
- 11:28Speaker 1: is right up. I mean it's big. You're talking about
- 11:30Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback and his prime play for our ten years.
- 11:34Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, it's as big as those guys. I'm saying,
- 11:37Speaker 1: but it's not everyone's it's the biggest because it's happening
- 11:40Speaker 1: to us now. Ten years from now, it will still
- 11:44Speaker 1: be ranked right up there, will be ranked up there.
- 11:46Speaker 1: But to say it's the biggest ever is who said biggest?
- 11:49Speaker 1: Said the quote? You said biggest. There you go again,
- 11:53Speaker 1: playing them wax out of your Earry Sanders was a
- 11:57Speaker 1: big one. That's the one I remember when I was
- 11:59Speaker 1: he was a big one. There's no said. I didn't
- 12:03Speaker 1: mean biggest, said it as one of the biggest. Absolutely,
- 12:08Speaker 1: it's a it's a huge, biggest, absolute franchise quarterback, one
- 12:11Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the NFL when he was healthy,
- 12:15Speaker 1: top five quarterback probably and decided to hang it up.
- 12:17Speaker 1: He was a big deal. And he was seven and
- 12:19Speaker 1: three against the Jaguars. Here's here's the other thing that
- 12:21Speaker 1: makes it big. I mean from a from a financial standpoint,
- 12:25Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy that's walked away from ballpark
- 12:28Speaker 1: of three hundred million. Yeah, two to three for sure.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Let me think about it. I mean, guys made a
- 12:34Speaker 1: hundred three million, and if he had ten more years
- 12:37Speaker 1: of playing in the National Football League, his earnings would
- 12:40Speaker 1: have probably been two the minimum going up minimum two
- 12:47Speaker 1: other things. I mean, I mean, look, I mean that
- 12:50Speaker 1: that's that's that's the reality. So I think it that
- 12:53Speaker 1: that makes it pretty big huge. Yeah, We've got plenty
- 12:57Speaker 1: to get to on the program, will discuss the rest
- 13:00Speaker 1: of the a f C South changes that changes in
- 13:03Speaker 1: the division. Only that there was some other news from
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- 13:06Speaker 1: little later. We'll get into Josh Allen's night in Miami
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- 17:19Speaker 1: Pete Prisco. He's in Kansas City chasing mahomes around, so
- 17:23Speaker 1: he need he needs the extra time to chase him
- 17:26Speaker 1: around apparently. So that's okay. Hey, it's a big story.
- 17:29Speaker 1: So hopefully Pete can get a little inside scoop that
- 17:32Speaker 1: we could use. That's not his job, I don't think, right,
- 17:35Speaker 1: No matter if it's his job or not, still steal stuff. Ok,
- 17:38Speaker 1: that's he's a neutral guy, allegedly, right he is? Yeah, yeah,
- 17:47Speaker 1: I think he's pretty pretty coming up before we go.
- 17:51Speaker 1: I'm looking at you got this board here, Jeff, Yeah,
- 17:54Speaker 1: I'm looking at what about the game in Atlanta. You
- 17:57Speaker 1: have a lot of names on here you don't really need.
- 18:00Speaker 1: They're really a waste of time. Like you put a
- 18:02Speaker 1: lot of work into this, it's a waste. I'm not
- 18:05Speaker 1: sure why you have Clay's Campbell's name on the board.
- 18:07Speaker 1: So for those on radio, he's gonna play that has
- 18:11Speaker 1: a depth chart of defense on one team and offense
- 18:13Speaker 1: and the other team. Ryan, No, No, I didn't need
- 18:17Speaker 1: to put it on there. Woh yeah he might play
- 18:21Speaker 1: you think we're see Julio. Yeah, I mean this is
- 18:24Speaker 1: what a waste. This was just the second and just
- 18:30Speaker 1: use the boards a more room, right About the guys
- 18:32Speaker 1: that aren't gonna make the team there on game night,
- 18:35Speaker 1: I think it's I think I will say this real
- 18:37Speaker 1: quick about the last preseason game. For for the guys
- 18:40Speaker 1: that are playing, that's got to be a bad feeling.
- 18:45Speaker 1: The don't let me forget let me say this about it.
- 18:48Speaker 1: It's a bad feeling from standpoint of if you're playing, No,
- 18:52Speaker 1: you're on the bubble, you're on the bubble at best,
- 18:55Speaker 1: more than likely you're not gonna make it. If you're sitting,
- 18:59Speaker 1: you're on the team based. But then at the same token,
- 19:01Speaker 1: you want to play your best because this is people
- 19:05Speaker 1: are watching, yeah, that somebody else might see. So it's
- 19:07Speaker 1: gotta be kind of bitter sweet for the guys that
- 19:10Speaker 1: are playing in this fourth preseason game. You know so,
- 19:13Speaker 1: but look, God bless him. I hope that they play well.
- 19:17Speaker 1: I hope they make a team somewhere what it's about,
- 19:19Speaker 1: just talking. We'll hear from some of the guys that
- 19:21Speaker 1: are kind of on the bubble in the locker room yesterday.
- 19:24Speaker 1: In fact, coming up a little later on the program tonight,
- 19:27Speaker 1: we'll get to Josh Allen coming up a little bit
- 19:28Speaker 1: later and his night with some reaction to that. Yeah,
- 19:33Speaker 1: we called the postgame the overreaction hour, but it was.
- 19:36Speaker 1: It was a nice night for him. We'll get to
- 19:38Speaker 1: that coming up. Offense. Just heard from the quarterback. What
- 19:41Speaker 1: do you guys stand on on the offense now? After
- 19:45Speaker 1: the four drives you saw the other night, are you
- 19:47Speaker 1: more less or the same amount of comfortable with what
- 19:51Speaker 1: this Jags offense is going to be? You wanna go first?
- 19:54Speaker 1: I'm not more. I'm I'm just I'm not at the
- 19:58Speaker 1: same point like I'm waiting. I'm waiting to see. I'm
- 20:01Speaker 1: waiting to see as well. Yeah, I'm like, that didn't do.
- 20:04Speaker 1: He had two three interception the play drive that was
- 20:08Speaker 1: aided by penalties, and the running game still looks not
- 20:12Speaker 1: very good to me. Now. The funny thing is, you
- 20:15Speaker 1: go back to seventeen Jeff and I said this team
- 20:17Speaker 1: is not gonna able to run the ball. The run
- 20:19Speaker 1: game stinks there. Their offensive lines really struggling because that's
- 20:23Speaker 1: in seventeen. They couldn't move it an inch and they
- 20:25Speaker 1: had the starters aft the whole time. And then they
- 20:27Speaker 1: go to Houston and literally Pound crushed them and ended
- 20:32Speaker 1: up having a very good rushing year as a team. Um.
- 20:36Speaker 1: And so you never want to read too much into
- 20:37Speaker 1: the preseason, so I'm not going to. But that didn't
- 20:41Speaker 1: do much for me on Thursday night. And that's a
- 20:45Speaker 1: that's a young, young Dolphins defense that's not viewed as
- 20:49Speaker 1: one of the top it's a bad defense. So uh.
- 20:52Speaker 1: And they were missing some starters on defense, so uh,
- 20:56Speaker 1: it was good to see and it was good to
- 20:57Speaker 1: see the starters get out there and play a little bit.
- 20:59Speaker 1: And it was even better to see that nobody got
- 21:01Speaker 1: hurt for the most part, so that that was a positive. Yeah,
- 21:05Speaker 1: dj Um, but I think he's gonna be okay. I
- 21:08Speaker 1: mean he's and I haven't have they said anything about him,
- 21:11Speaker 1: by the way, CUSSI protocol, I mean nothing about the
- 21:16Speaker 1: kneed and they don't have to say anything about it. Not.
- 21:19Speaker 1: The only thing they said was protocol at the game,
- 21:21Speaker 1: So there wasn't had nothing because they haven't I mean nothing.
- 21:24Speaker 1: At this point of the preseason, you're not going to
- 21:26Speaker 1: talk about injuries unless you have to, because now you're
- 21:29Speaker 1: starting to get to get close to the games when
- 21:31Speaker 1: they count, so you're gonna be pretty close to the
- 21:34Speaker 1: vest with the information that you have. So but I mean,
- 21:37Speaker 1: it didn't look like a need to me. It was
- 21:38Speaker 1: just like he just his mind and his feet weren't
- 21:41Speaker 1: working together. And then he got at the beginning kind
- 21:46Speaker 1: and it wasn't he just stopped for whatever I did
- 21:49Speaker 1: for looked to you, guys, I thought he looked I
- 21:53Speaker 1: thought he I thought he looked good once he kind
- 21:55Speaker 1: of got out of that, because I think there's an
- 21:57Speaker 1: adjustment period when you go into the preseason game because
- 22:00Speaker 1: you're you're a practice speed and then you have to
- 22:02Speaker 1: kind of re learn the tempo and the speed of
- 22:04Speaker 1: a real game. And I thought that once he kind
- 22:07Speaker 1: of got going to the tempo, I thought he was
- 22:09Speaker 1: really good. The first couple series wasn't so good. I'd
- 22:13Speaker 1: like to see him catch that one ball that he
- 22:15Speaker 1: had an opportunity in the flat and I know that
- 22:18Speaker 1: you know there was a defender that was right there,
- 22:20Speaker 1: but it would have been a one on one opportunity
- 22:22Speaker 1: and also, look, he could have made the guy miss
- 22:24Speaker 1: and maybe have gotten the first down. I don't know,
- 22:26Speaker 1: but I thought he looked solid. I thought he looks solid.
- 22:30Speaker 1: One he did get out there in the in the past,
- 22:32Speaker 1: in the flat, he made nice contact with the guy,
- 22:34Speaker 1: knocked him down, got an extra five years or so. Yeah.
- 22:37Speaker 1: I mean that was when you could kind of tell
- 22:38Speaker 1: that look, Okay, now it's game speed and he's bringing it.
- 22:41Speaker 1: I thought the offensive line got better as the game progressed.
- 22:46Speaker 1: Wasn't good enough, No, I don't think it was good enough.
- 22:48Speaker 1: I thought that John Taylor, who had I want to say,
- 22:51Speaker 1: like nineteen snaps somewhere in that range, because he was
- 22:55Speaker 1: out there with the ones, he might have even had
- 22:57Speaker 1: more than that. He had a little deeper. He he
- 23:01Speaker 1: went second, he went all the way, and he had
- 23:02Speaker 1: twenty thirty seven snaps. I thought he was okay, But
- 23:05Speaker 1: there are some things that he needs to do with
- 23:07Speaker 1: his hands to to be better. He lets his hands
- 23:10Speaker 1: get outside sometimes. And I hate to say this, I
- 23:13Speaker 1: thought Cam Robinson had a solid night, but he also
- 23:17Speaker 1: had this one play where I saw him extend that
- 23:20Speaker 1: leg out again, which was kind of a footwork a
- 23:26Speaker 1: footwork issue last year. Um. I don't know Tony if
- 23:29Speaker 1: you saw it or not, but it was one play
- 23:31Speaker 1: in particularly kind of he started to round his set
- 23:34Speaker 1: instead of continued to kiss. Very good. I talked about
- 23:37Speaker 1: to The game really opened up quickly. We had six plays. Um,
- 23:41Speaker 1: I don't how do you feel about it when you
- 23:43Speaker 1: talked to him? Good? He felt good? Physically great? Yeah,
- 23:46Speaker 1: physically looks good. He felt good. Physical not very good
- 23:50Speaker 1: in the game. Um, I thought you want Taylor played
- 23:53Speaker 1: great for his first game. You gotta keep it in
- 23:56Speaker 1: perspective here. I mean, jess right, these things to work with,
- 23:58Speaker 1: but as far as doing your job, all as far
- 24:00Speaker 1: as doing your job blocking people strong, he did a
- 24:03Speaker 1: great job. Strong. I thought will richardon't take the two
- 24:06Speaker 1: uh false steps, starts away what you can't do. I mean,
- 24:09Speaker 1: obviously that's part of it. I thought he was okay.
- 24:13Speaker 1: I think he's better than a j can right now.
- 24:14Speaker 1: I think there's more upside. I think they're even. I
- 24:17Speaker 1: think you go with the more upside. But it wasn't
- 24:20Speaker 1: nearly as good as the previous week with with Will Richardson.
- 24:23Speaker 1: That's a fact. But he's physical, he's big, he's athletic.
- 24:28Speaker 1: He gets his back flat, which means he moves people.
- 24:33Speaker 1: Um put him him and Joanna on the same side.
- 24:36Speaker 1: That two big strong road traders. Now, so I like that.
- 24:40Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if you know he's starting. But
- 24:43Speaker 1: here here's I think the the tight end position concerns
- 24:47Speaker 1: and Jeff Swain was back in the practice that we
- 24:50Speaker 1: haven't seen any tight ends that are gonna be on
- 24:52Speaker 1: the active rock. You understand. I mean that's the problems
- 24:54Speaker 1: because it's not like there's no doubt. It's not like
- 24:56Speaker 1: you have Tony Gonsolz and Shandon's sharp you know, off
- 24:59Speaker 1: to the side way didn't block anybody all he was
- 25:02Speaker 1: catch past. Okay, you don't want either, but Gronk, yeah,
- 25:04Speaker 1: I'll take wrong or you don't want Oh no, I
- 25:06Speaker 1: just I don't want a Hall of Famer. Yeah no,
- 25:08Speaker 1: I don't want other Hall of Famer. But but I
- 25:11Speaker 1: think it's gonna be interesting to see what happens against
- 25:14Speaker 1: Kent's City on what is that September eight at the
- 25:18Speaker 1: right guard position, because you know, with a Juwan Taylor
- 25:22Speaker 1: at right tackle, there's a rookie. Do you feel better
- 25:25Speaker 1: about having an A j Can who has a lot
- 25:28Speaker 1: of games under his belt now in his fifth season,
- 25:31Speaker 1: beside him, or do you go you know what, let's
- 25:35Speaker 1: go with Will Richardson, who is in his first rookie
- 25:41Speaker 1: you don't have any experience. Let me grow together kind
- 25:43Speaker 1: of well, I mean, let him grow together as one
- 25:46Speaker 1: idea or the other thing is, hey, look we've got
- 25:49Speaker 1: a rookie. Let's get some experience next to our rookie
- 25:51Speaker 1: right tackle and you feel a little bit more comfortable
- 25:54Speaker 1: in that safe zone with a j King. I don't
- 25:56Speaker 1: put the best guys out there, put your best five
- 25:58Speaker 1: out there. But it's an inner, resting debate. I'm with
- 26:01Speaker 1: Tony went I'm with Tony. The idea is to be
- 26:04Speaker 1: at your best by the time you get in the playoffs.
- 26:08Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you want to get in the playoffs,
- 26:10Speaker 1: but the roof is higher, the ceiling is higher with
- 26:14Speaker 1: Whereward Richardson. In my opinion, all right, you have at
- 26:18Speaker 1: the offensive. Look at last Thursday's game. We're back in
- 26:22Speaker 1: a moment and the big story of the game. Last
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- 30:31Speaker 1: I missed a few too, but that was the one
- 30:33Speaker 1: I'm gonna remember most. I'd say that, but uh, you know,
- 30:36Speaker 1: I felt better. You know today me Flas had a
- 30:40Speaker 1: long top before and he definitely had my mind and
- 30:43Speaker 1: thinking about what I need to do and how I
- 30:45Speaker 1: need to do it. So um so lose to him
- 30:48Speaker 1: and a Monna sline talking to me too, So you know,
- 30:52Speaker 1: it was a good day to day. Josh Allen in
- 30:54Speaker 1: the locker room in Miami after his fantastic first half
- 30:59Speaker 1: of the Jaguars and preseason Week three Welcome Back Jaguars
- 31:01Speaker 1: Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. We'll find out
- 31:04Speaker 1: tonight if he can throw strikes or not. He's throw
- 31:07Speaker 1: in the first pitch of the Jumbo Shrimp game tonight. Awesome,
- 31:09Speaker 1: They're playing the Mobile BayBears tonight. You done that throughout
- 31:13Speaker 1: a first pitch? I did one time no, no, no,
- 31:17Speaker 1: not the Jumbo Shrimp Hill was a high school game.
- 31:20Speaker 1: I did the Jumbo Shrimp. I bounced it to the
- 31:22Speaker 1: plate by the Yeah I did it. Yeah, so I
- 31:25Speaker 1: did at the Jumbo Shrimp back then there with the suns.
- 31:27Speaker 1: Now the jumper. Is that your bad shoulder? You're right arm,
- 31:30Speaker 1: it's my left. I wouldn't have gone. I wouldn't even
- 31:33Speaker 1: showing up and uh the U. So you get there
- 31:37Speaker 1: and they and JP. You know this because so they
- 31:39Speaker 1: tell you can throw like five steps in front of
- 31:42Speaker 1: the mound. I can't do that, can't do that. You're
- 31:45Speaker 1: there to know. They said, they said here throw um here.
- 31:48Speaker 1: I said, there's not a chance you got going to
- 31:51Speaker 1: the rubbers. Yeah, I did the whole thing. Strike Get
- 31:55Speaker 1: out of here. Give me my word. How hard was it?
- 31:57Speaker 1: I mean it was was not lollipop. It was on
- 32:01Speaker 1: a line. Really, but I would say sixty maybe. I
- 32:08Speaker 1: mean it was, it was gonna be. It was. They'd
- 32:10Speaker 1: been practicing for a while. I'm throwing a baseball for
- 32:13Speaker 1: years and but I mean I grew up playing baseball
- 32:16Speaker 1: and pitched and uh junior high. My right shoulders the
- 32:20Speaker 1: one I had reconstructed. Yeah, twice even did it. I
- 32:27Speaker 1: had to try try and I said, I was like you,
- 32:30Speaker 1: They're like, you can screwt up a little bit. I'm like,
- 32:32Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I'm going for the man. I
- 32:34Speaker 1: would rather bounce it or roll it to the plate
- 32:36Speaker 1: than they didn't screw it up, and I bounced it,
- 32:39Speaker 1: So I was I was quite content with it to
- 32:41Speaker 1: be sixty six inches. Let's go. Is that what it is?
- 32:45Speaker 1: A strike? That was what at the first base ninety Okay,
- 32:48Speaker 1: that's what you say. Say clarify this. When I say
- 32:51Speaker 1: a strike, the catcher did not have to get out
- 32:53Speaker 1: of his stance to catch it. That's good. Yeah, that's
- 32:56Speaker 1: a strike. I mean, I don't like it was an
- 32:58Speaker 1: actual call that it's a strike. If they swing at
- 33:00Speaker 1: it to that can miss. There's that's one thing. Man,
- 33:04Speaker 1: you don't realize this is not I'd like to see
- 33:07Speaker 1: that Josh Allen tonight seven five. But Jeff sitting on
- 33:12Speaker 1: that mound and throwing it thinking there's a batter. They're
- 33:16Speaker 1: swinging as hard as you can. I mean, those guys
- 33:19Speaker 1: you gotta have some You actually have to, you know,
- 33:22Speaker 1: not to be tough. You just have to have no
- 33:24Speaker 1: brain or thought that that ball can come back and
- 33:27Speaker 1: hit you. Because if you're thinking about that, you can't throw.
- 33:29Speaker 1: You're done, you have the yips. You can't throw. It's
- 33:32Speaker 1: like they just have to that's an actual issue. Yeah,
- 33:34Speaker 1: they just have to block that stuff out. I mean
- 33:36Speaker 1: I assume that they don't. You got a good pitcher.
- 33:38Speaker 1: Is that way you don't get hit? Well, it doesn't
- 33:40Speaker 1: matter majorly. Hitters are coming back at you one way.
- 33:42Speaker 1: Sooner laterbody who's been hit by a comebacker before, and
- 33:45Speaker 1: that is a real mental hurdle to come back from
- 33:48Speaker 1: for some guys. Yes, sooner or later, it's coming up.
- 33:50Speaker 1: It's coming right back at you. So, Josh Allen, that
- 33:53Speaker 1: was the whole genesis of that conversation. Tonight throw the
- 33:56Speaker 1: first pitch of the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp against the Mobile
- 33:58Speaker 1: Bay Bears seven O five the first pitch time tonight
- 34:02Speaker 1: Um because the biggest overreaction in the preseason I can remember.
- 34:05Speaker 1: You think he had a great first half to Okay,
- 34:09Speaker 1: we go over what he did. He had a couple
- 34:11Speaker 1: of tackles for loss, hit the quarterback twice, two of them,
- 34:16Speaker 1: what four tackles to total tackles. UM was in around
- 34:20Speaker 1: almost a lot of the place most of the plays,
- 34:23Speaker 1: I would say, And he was physically uh uh powerful
- 34:28Speaker 1: against the run. Yeah, I thought he was stout when
- 34:31Speaker 1: when you did, when the announcer didn't call his name,
- 34:34Speaker 1: he looked good. So I thought he played very well.
- 34:36Speaker 1: And I think Josh Allen's gonna be a fabulous football player.
- 34:39Speaker 1: I really do. I think. I think it's a great pick.
- 34:41Speaker 1: I've said it all along. I still think he has
- 34:43Speaker 1: a ways to go as a pass rusher. Um, he's
- 34:47Speaker 1: not as like when you and I when Unique came
- 34:50Speaker 1: in here, he was more finished as a pass rusher,
- 34:53Speaker 1: would you not agree, Jeff? And he was eight with
- 34:56Speaker 1: his hand use and like from Yeah, Josh Allen is
- 35:01Speaker 1: a physic I'm not talking about but I'm talking hand
- 35:07Speaker 1: us and moves and everything else like that. Josh Allen
- 35:09Speaker 1: needs to continue to progress there. He's gonna be fabulous.
- 35:14Speaker 1: The offensive line the Dolphins is the worst in the NFL,
- 35:17Speaker 1: and the tackles he was playing against are atrocious. The
- 35:20Speaker 1: first play that didn't even block him. Yeah, And so
- 35:23Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from it. Was a great night,
- 35:25Speaker 1: and I think Josh Allen is going to be a
- 35:29Speaker 1: outstanding player maybe has an opportunity to be rookie defensive
- 35:33Speaker 1: Rookie of the year, you know, based on his just
- 35:35Speaker 1: pure physical ability in his in his uh, his knack
- 35:39Speaker 1: to be around the ball. But you want to take
- 35:43Speaker 1: a big deep breath. I mean you if you listen
- 35:45Speaker 1: to Twitter and some of the reaction from the local
- 35:47Speaker 1: media like let's put him in like all Pro Hall
- 35:50Speaker 1: of Fame, Like he's like the greatest player on defense,
- 35:52Speaker 1: is going to like all the studd like all of
- 35:55Speaker 1: the sudden, it's like LT. So we have LT on
- 35:57Speaker 1: the field. I'm like, well, well, wait back up a second.
- 35:59Speaker 1: The kids a rookie learning, let's not set I don't
- 36:02Speaker 1: want to set these unreal expectations. And he gets into
- 36:05Speaker 1: the regular season and and like a lot of rookie
- 36:08Speaker 1: starts a little slow. So all you're saying is, let's
- 36:11Speaker 1: not give our let's you know, not give ourselves a
- 36:13Speaker 1: speeding ticket. Okay, but you're still excited about it because
- 36:19Speaker 1: you were kind of starting to shave my blood. No, no, no, not.
- 36:22Speaker 1: I think Josh I'd said this from the beginning. I
- 36:23Speaker 1: love the pick. I love watching practice. He's a physical specimen.
- 36:28Speaker 1: If he continues to work in like he does because
- 36:31Speaker 1: he listens to the veterans, he's working at his craft,
- 36:33Speaker 1: and he continues to do that and gets a couple
- 36:35Speaker 1: of pass rushing moves, the guys would be very very good. Yeah,
- 36:38Speaker 1: he'shouna be outstanding. But I'm like, let's I'm not in
- 36:42Speaker 1: the opinion that he needs to find pass rushing moves.
- 36:45Speaker 1: I mean, I think they'll come with time, the ones
- 36:47Speaker 1: that where he has a patent move, but his his
- 36:50Speaker 1: pass rushes speed and also the ability to bend, spin
- 36:54Speaker 1: and then work either side of the tackle. Does he
- 36:57Speaker 1: have a patent and move like in gock Way right now? No? No,
- 37:00Speaker 1: My point is he needs how to use the speed
- 37:05Speaker 1: and then go speed to power. If he just does that,
- 37:09Speaker 1: I'm not talking about he has to become like the
- 37:11Speaker 1: you know, figure out how he's gonna spinning like von
- 37:13Speaker 1: Miller or or get that you know, hump move like
- 37:16Speaker 1: Greggy White or Unique. I think he could hands all
- 37:19Speaker 1: of the moves at some point. Got that kind of
- 37:22Speaker 1: test saying right now, learn to have a game plan,
- 37:25Speaker 1: which he's progressing of going in using your speed and
- 37:28Speaker 1: go speed to power. You're gonna give up most tackles
- 37:31Speaker 1: in this League Trouble. I was excited to see the
- 37:33Speaker 1: very first snap where they went to a three four.
- 37:37Speaker 1: That was the first player of the game, right, first
- 37:39Speaker 1: player of the game, first play of the game, and
- 37:41Speaker 1: it was kind of it was kind of weird because
- 37:42Speaker 1: they started out with leon Jacob's out there, which by
- 37:44Speaker 1: the way, they ran three four with leon Jacob's out
- 37:47Speaker 1: there too, but the very first play they had leon
- 37:50Speaker 1: Jacobs out there, and then they run him off the field.
- 37:52Speaker 1: I'm going, what are they doing? Or do they set?
- 37:54Speaker 1: And then I saw Josh Allen running out there, and
- 37:56Speaker 1: I was going, wait a minute, They're not subbing to Nickel,
- 38:00Speaker 1: so what are they doing? And then that's why I
- 38:02Speaker 1: was playing attention to the lineup and I was like,
- 38:03Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's a three four, and so what
- 38:06Speaker 1: they essentially do when they go to a three four
- 38:09Speaker 1: number one, You're getting one of your best players on
- 38:11Speaker 1: the field, which is Josh Allen, at the same time
- 38:14Speaker 1: as you have another one of your best players on
- 38:16Speaker 1: the field same time, which is Yanique and Gockway. And
- 38:19Speaker 1: and Gockway from what it looked like, played the sam
- 38:23Speaker 1: outside linebacker and then Josh Allen played what would be
- 38:27Speaker 1: the Will outside linebacker on the three four Either that
- 38:30Speaker 1: or they're just playing left and right because the right
- 38:32Speaker 1: side better. Yeah, so you don't know because Jan was
- 38:36Speaker 1: on John was on the left side. I thought he
- 38:38Speaker 1: was on the right now, and when he went three
- 38:39Speaker 1: four he was on the left side, which is so
- 38:42Speaker 1: they're playing Sam and Will. They're not playing left and right,
- 38:44Speaker 1: which in r which they probably could play left and
- 38:46Speaker 1: right if they wanted to, which would make some sense.
- 38:48Speaker 1: I would the right every time because it's a better
- 38:50Speaker 1: past n a better pass rush on the right side.
- 38:52Speaker 1: Tony's right on that. So but it was cool. I
- 38:55Speaker 1: think they had maybe four, maybe five snaps of of
- 38:58Speaker 1: what I would call three four defense if they only
- 39:00Speaker 1: did it once with those guys right now, they did it,
- 39:03Speaker 1: uh twice with in Gockway and Josh Allen as the
- 39:08Speaker 1: outside backers, and then they did it another two times
- 39:11Speaker 1: with Leon. Yeah, I knew that, so twice twice there
- 39:16Speaker 1: there was four four that I counted in the game
- 39:19Speaker 1: of true what I thought were snapping against twelve or
- 39:24Speaker 1: twenty one personnel, So against base package back wasn't It
- 39:28Speaker 1: wasn't any sub or anything like that. Now, when they
- 39:31Speaker 1: went to sub, which is their nickel package, and a
- 39:34Speaker 1: lot of people at at times we're thinking that it
- 39:36Speaker 1: was a three or four, but it's the stand up package.
- 39:40Speaker 1: It's a spinner, you know, where he's the what I
- 39:42Speaker 1: always call Lawrence Taylor made it famous back in the
- 39:45Speaker 1: day when he would stand up and rush from anywhere,
- 39:47Speaker 1: walk around, and that's kind of what in Gockway does.
- 39:49Speaker 1: Sometimes they have you know, Klaius and Josh Allen down
- 39:54Speaker 1: and then Marcel or a. Brien as the nose tackle,
- 39:57Speaker 1: and then Yahn's walking around and rushing you like I actually,
- 40:00Speaker 1: you don't like you on at that position as much effective,
- 40:03Speaker 1: and I'm I'm with you. But at the one time
- 40:05Speaker 1: that they did have him, that was when Josh Allen
- 40:09Speaker 1: came free underneath and got a hit on the quarterback.
- 40:11Speaker 1: That's free a little bit of a game. So I
- 40:16Speaker 1: like it, but it's not something that doesn't need to
- 40:17Speaker 1: be your staple for Yannick and Gockway in my opinion,
- 40:21Speaker 1: in that three four and Gockway Allan on the outside,
- 40:24Speaker 1: Avery in the middle Klaius and it would have been
- 40:27Speaker 1: Marcel Darius correct, but it was Taven and then in
- 40:30Speaker 1: that game that's right, that's pretty good vibe right there. Look,
- 40:33Speaker 1: you're getting the best, You're getting your best players on
- 40:35Speaker 1: the field. And during the game they played a lot
- 40:38Speaker 1: of man coverage with that. Uh are they gonna do
- 40:42Speaker 1: other things out of that? Shure? They can. They can
- 40:44Speaker 1: do whatever they want out of that because in Gockway
- 40:46Speaker 1: and and Josh Allen can drop the coverage. As you
- 40:48Speaker 1: could see from watching Josh Allen make that tackle out
- 40:51Speaker 1: in space on the flat throw when it was a
- 40:53Speaker 1: fire zone when they were running a four three fire zone,
- 40:56Speaker 1: which is one of more impressive plays still one talks about.
- 40:59Speaker 1: It's like unblocked hits to the quarterback or unblocked tackle
- 41:03Speaker 1: for a loss. Those are like great. I mean every
- 41:06Speaker 1: good player gets unblocked at times, and they got You
- 41:08Speaker 1: gotta capitalize because not all guys can't evenhen they're nblocked.
- 41:12Speaker 1: What was most impressive at twitter and seventy pounds of
- 41:15Speaker 1: operating in space and making the open field tackle in
- 41:18Speaker 1: the athletic ability that I saw on that play that
- 41:20Speaker 1: was more impressive than anything else. Let me add something
- 41:23Speaker 1: that play, what I thought was as as impressive as
- 41:26Speaker 1: the athletic ability. When he's lining up, he's in a
- 41:29Speaker 1: two point stands and he he looks like he's coming,
- 41:33Speaker 1: and he also takes a peek to the outside before
- 41:37Speaker 1: the snap, and he's going to get an idea of
- 41:40Speaker 1: the lay of the land. That little peak allowed him
- 41:42Speaker 1: to know that there was traffic coming. So when he
- 41:45Speaker 1: has to drop, the back is flaring out of the
- 41:47Speaker 1: backfield and then he has to get to the flat
- 41:50Speaker 1: to cover him. Well, there was a wide receiver in
- 41:52Speaker 1: Trey Herndon that were there, but he knew that he
- 41:55Speaker 1: would have to get cleaned by them to avoid them
- 41:58Speaker 1: to get to the flat to make that play. But
- 42:00Speaker 1: to have the awareness of getting clean by that to
- 42:05Speaker 1: get to the flat to make that tackle, which shows
- 42:07Speaker 1: the athleticism I thought was was great as yeah, because
- 42:13Speaker 1: when you when you add there was a lot of
- 42:16Speaker 1: In fact, early my career there was a guy I'm
- 42:18Speaker 1: not I'm not going to name his name, but he
- 42:20Speaker 1: had so much athleticism and talent it was unbelievable, but
- 42:24Speaker 1: he had no awareness and so pretty limited. If the
- 42:28Speaker 1: guy had awareness, he i would have never gotten a
- 42:30Speaker 1: starting job my rookie year. And uh, but that's good
- 42:34Speaker 1: to see out of out of him because that's typically
- 42:37Speaker 1: something that a player doesn't get until a few years
- 42:39Speaker 1: down the road. Well, sometimes they never get it, that's right,
- 42:42Speaker 1: And I think that's that's all part of the conversation
- 42:44Speaker 1: we're having about Tavid awareness awareness awareness, right, I mean,
- 42:48Speaker 1: you know, does he have it? Well, we got to
- 42:51Speaker 1: see what else on defense stood out we're talking about
- 42:56Speaker 1: Tavin actually that the two penalties were bad, I mean bad.
- 43:02Speaker 1: I mean that's that's just being smart, and that that
- 43:06Speaker 1: was not smart football. And you know, obviously it's a
- 43:09Speaker 1: reaction to the criticism that he's been under or the
- 43:12Speaker 1: pressure that he feels because you know, he had the
- 43:14Speaker 1: interview last week and he was talking about how you know,
- 43:17Speaker 1: you're going to see more of the real me and
- 43:19Speaker 1: all this, and well, I hope that's not more of
- 43:21Speaker 1: the real him getting the penalties. And it's a shame
- 43:24Speaker 1: tony because one of the penalties that he had had
- 43:26Speaker 1: a great move, I mean power move, grabs a guard, throws,
- 43:30Speaker 1: pushes him back, pulls him forward and does a pull
- 43:33Speaker 1: rip swim and gets by him and then he chases
- 43:36Speaker 1: down the quarterback and it hits him and it was clear.
- 43:39Speaker 1: It wasn't like, oh, I'm not sure the ball was gone.
- 43:42Speaker 1: It was right in front of him and he still
- 43:43Speaker 1: that's when he took like two or three steps and
- 43:45Speaker 1: he and he pushed Fitzgerald and he falls down the
- 43:48Speaker 1: great Patrick independalty Fitzpatrick and in the penalty comes out.
- 43:51Speaker 1: I mean, that's that was not a smart play. That
- 43:54Speaker 1: that can't happen. It's a concern for me the depth
- 43:57Speaker 1: of the defensive line and at the three technique. Marcel
- 44:01Speaker 1: Darius has been out with an injury. Um, he I
- 44:05Speaker 1: believe it. I read the report today. Didn't practice today again,
- 44:09Speaker 1: So he's not gonna play this week, which is fine.
- 44:10Speaker 1: You didn't expect him anyways. But if Martin cel Darius
- 44:14Speaker 1: isn't ready, you're starting Tavin Bryant. And I don't know
- 44:16Speaker 1: about Jeff, but there's not a lot that I've seen
- 44:19Speaker 1: this camp that gives me a lot of confidence that
- 44:21Speaker 1: the consistency's gonna be there. Um, with him starting as
- 44:26Speaker 1: your three technique, it needs to be better. I mean,
- 44:30Speaker 1: there's no doubt in easy. How do you feel, I mean, Jeff,
- 44:32Speaker 1: if you're going to the season with Tavin Bryan's you're
- 44:34Speaker 1: starting three on this defense, I'm not I'm not freaked out,
- 44:40Speaker 1: but I'm not happy. I can tell you that because
- 44:43Speaker 1: Marcel Darius is a very aware, big, strong guy, whereas
- 44:51Speaker 1: Tavin's still he's still trying to learn that stuff and
- 44:54Speaker 1: and to go with Tony said, hopefully this is something
- 44:56Speaker 1: that he does learn. Doug Maron asked about Tavin Bryant
- 45:00Speaker 1: and if he took a step back in the game
- 45:02Speaker 1: on Thursday night. Here's due response. You just gotta fight,
- 45:06Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one thing. And if you don't,
- 45:08Speaker 1: you know, if you give up on yourself, will health
- 45:10Speaker 1: How's how's anyone else going to really? Um, you know,
- 45:14Speaker 1: keep you along. So you know, Tavin's you know, he's
- 45:17Speaker 1: he's had a set back. Um, he's probably disappointed, you know,
- 45:21Speaker 1: but hey, he's gotta you know, get his mind right
- 45:23Speaker 1: and go because there was some things he was doing
- 45:25Speaker 1: earlier that that we're really exciting and really would really
- 45:28Speaker 1: be able to help our football team. So uh, and
- 45:31Speaker 1: that's what he wants to do. So, you know, strap
- 45:34Speaker 1: it up and get your rest out there and go play.
- 45:36Speaker 1: It doesn't really sound like it doesn't really sound like
- 45:41Speaker 1: a message from the head coach. It's like overly endorsing.
- 45:46Speaker 1: It's a far cry from what he said after the
- 45:47Speaker 1: first preseason game. I can tell you that sure he was.
- 45:51Speaker 1: He was talking about after that first games my point,
- 45:53Speaker 1: which I thought, yes, thank you, but do you have it?
- 45:59Speaker 1: I just think you talk. We talked about the stakes
- 46:02Speaker 1: and talked about awareness. We talked about be on the
- 46:04Speaker 1: big plays. I mean, Tavin Bryant is a maybe the
- 46:08Speaker 1: strongest guy on the team, UM, A physical, tough, all
- 46:12Speaker 1: those things, but the instincts of awareness to make plays
- 46:15Speaker 1: we have not seen. And you talk to people that
- 46:19Speaker 1: watched him with Florida, they said the same thing. That
- 46:21Speaker 1: was like the knock coming out right. I mean, Jeff,
- 46:24Speaker 1: you watched the tape. He was always close, always close.
- 46:27Speaker 1: And so now if that's without more subdarious um, I mean,
- 46:32Speaker 1: he's your starting three and your depth isn't real good there.
- 46:36Speaker 1: Let's come back. We'll touch on special teams standouts when
- 46:40Speaker 1: we come back. Also still to come the second hour,
- 46:42Speaker 1: will get into the offensive line a little bit more.
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- 50:28Speaker 1: that's always a challenge. You know, Um, anytime a guy
- 50:31Speaker 1: that's basically you know, just playing special teams not getting
- 50:34Speaker 1: a lot of work on offense. Uh, you know, it's
- 50:36Speaker 1: a it's a balance that has to be you know,
- 50:39Speaker 1: gone over and everybody's gotta understand how many players he
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- 50:43Speaker 1: coach Maron does a great job of that. He he
- 50:45Speaker 1: communicates with us well. And this philosophy is he if
- 50:48Speaker 1: a guy is a starter and he's a good special
- 50:49Speaker 1: teams player, let's put him out there. Joe dick camillis
- 50:52Speaker 1: special teams coordinator. Talk to him today. You'll hear the
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- 51:02Speaker 1: Jags and the Falcons here at t i A Bank Field.
- 51:05Speaker 1: I'm good to visit with Joe, of course. Yeah, he's
- 51:08Speaker 1: he's uh, one of the one of the best special
- 51:11Speaker 1: teams coaches I think in the National Football League and
- 51:14Speaker 1: does a really good job and it's been for thirty years. Well,
- 51:17Speaker 1: in this game that's coming up on Thursday night, there's
- 51:19Speaker 1: a lot of evaluation that's going to be going on
- 51:22Speaker 1: in his department to determine whether or not guys are
- 51:25Speaker 1: gonna make the team or not. It's a lot of
- 51:26Speaker 1: chaos two for him. Yeah, ninety man roster, you probably
- 51:33Speaker 1: have seventy that are available for special teams. Yeah, and like, like,
- 51:37Speaker 1: let's be honest, they're gonna have fifty three guys. We're
- 51:40Speaker 1: keeping nine on Price squad at least half of those
- 51:47Speaker 1: who come from other teams. Let's say three or four,
- 51:53Speaker 1: let's say between Francis Squad and the other. Um, you're
- 51:57Speaker 1: gonna have eight guys from other teams come, So that
- 52:01Speaker 1: leaves you at fifty five guys out of the ninety
- 52:04Speaker 1: are gonna make it that are out there right now.
- 52:06Speaker 1: That's forty five guys are gonna be accountants and you know,
- 52:10Speaker 1: and lawyers and other things. I mean. But my point
- 52:16Speaker 1: is not in the NFL come Saturday, and those are
- 52:20Speaker 1: the guys that Jody Camillis and the rest of this
- 52:23Speaker 1: group has to coach up. And special teams is always
- 52:26Speaker 1: the hardest because it's moving and it's a lot of
- 52:28Speaker 1: rotation and it's not uh substitution like is in a rhythm,
- 52:35Speaker 1: like offensive defense because you go out there for a
- 52:37Speaker 1: series and you kind of have your plan. It's like
- 52:38Speaker 1: sudden all right, punting, like this guy's down or this
- 52:42Speaker 1: guy's out, Like who okay, who's that gunner. There's gonna
- 52:46Speaker 1: be a lot of tired guys in the game on
- 52:48Speaker 1: Thursday night because of the amount of guys that won't play.
- 52:52Speaker 1: Leave the guys that will be playing. They've got to
- 52:54Speaker 1: play on defense or all offense, and they gotta play
- 52:57Speaker 1: on special teams. And that was Joe's point in the
- 53:00Speaker 1: clip we heard coming back, how do you balance playing
- 53:02Speaker 1: time on offense defense with special teams time to look
- 53:06Speaker 1: in the last preseason game, you're balancing it with guys
- 53:08Speaker 1: that aren't gonna be on your roster, and you're just going, hey,
- 53:10Speaker 1: but you're you're playing, you know, so get ready and
- 53:13Speaker 1: drink lots of water this week leading up to the game.
- 53:15Speaker 1: But there's probably probably four three or four guys that
- 53:20Speaker 1: are going to be playing that are that need to
- 53:23Speaker 1: have good performances on on special teams and their position
- 53:28Speaker 1: old group to be able to make this roster. I mean,
- 53:31Speaker 1: like maybe like a guy like c. J. Board or
- 53:34Speaker 1: Trading Pride or uh Robinson, the corner. I think Josh Robinson,
- 53:39Speaker 1: I think he's uh. I think there. You don't think
- 53:41Speaker 1: he has to do anything this week. I mean he's
- 53:44Speaker 1: done everything every week to me for me, I mean,
- 53:46Speaker 1: so for me, I wouldn't. I would. I don't need
- 53:48Speaker 1: anything to anything seen from him. And it's not like
- 53:51Speaker 1: he's a He's been doing it for time and he
- 53:54Speaker 1: gets it. I would probably consider sitting him just because,
- 53:58Speaker 1: you know, if you didn't have depth at that corner
- 54:00Speaker 1: defensive back position, I would consider playing him. But I
- 54:03Speaker 1: think he got enough depth there to where if he's
- 54:05Speaker 1: gonna be on the roster, that you keep him because
- 54:08Speaker 1: he's shown to me that he can play special teams,
- 54:12Speaker 1: he can play safety, and he can play corner, and
- 54:16Speaker 1: that versatility it has has a lot of value when
- 54:20Speaker 1: you're talking about making the decision on a guy who's
- 54:22Speaker 1: gonna make a final roster spot. Much like when we
- 54:26Speaker 1: were in Baltimore, who's that big fullback slash defensive tackle
- 54:30Speaker 1: Ortecard and he was good full back? Now not recording me,
- 54:39Speaker 1: I can't remember his name, but I'll find it out.
- 54:41Speaker 1: But anyway, a guy like that that can play offense
- 54:44Speaker 1: and defense and then play him both really pretty well
- 54:48Speaker 1: and special teams lock. It's for example, if Terrell Prior
- 54:54Speaker 1: could play special teams and play it well like a
- 54:59Speaker 1: two twenty eight pound linebacker, you might expect to play.
- 55:02Speaker 1: So in other words, of if Troull Prior, we could
- 55:04Speaker 1: use his size or however how much he ways. He
- 55:08Speaker 1: might be too forty for all I know speed. But
- 55:10Speaker 1: if he could play good special teams, Trull Pryor would
- 55:14Speaker 1: play as long as he wanted to in the National
- 55:17Speaker 1: Football League. But he doesn't play special teams. Is he
- 55:21Speaker 1: gonna make it? No? Is what's the latest with his injury?
- 55:25Speaker 1: He had the hammy coming out of the game. It's right.
- 55:27Speaker 1: Did he practice today? No? No, I don't think he did.
- 55:31Speaker 1: I don't know he was out today. I wouldn't be
- 55:33Speaker 1: surprised if injured. That's probably where he's gonna end up.
- 55:37Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. How much did you see of
- 55:38Speaker 1: him all preseason until last week? What's the number one
- 55:42Speaker 1: thing you got to be as a player? That's correct?
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- 59:50Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, Tony was Selly per usual,
- 59:55Speaker 1: and Jeff Flagman in with us. I'm here filling in
- 59:58Speaker 1: for Pete Prisco tonight. Pete is not in South Florida.
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: He is in Kansas City, hammering barbecue and chasing a
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: quarterback around hammering barbecue. So he'll be back with us
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: next week, which I mean he's like eating a lot
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: of barbecues here. Yes, yes, that's what that is. So, um,
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: well he'll be back with us. Logs. Great to have you.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: Good to be here, um, good to be anywhere, good
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- 1:00:29Speaker 1: the other Um. So all right, here we go Uh,
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: second hour of Jaguars Happy are coming up. We'll go
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: around the National Football League. We'll touch on the a
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: f C South, not only Andrew Luck, but some other
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: storylines of other teams on the division. The last a
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: week or so, it's been a busy week in the
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: ANFC South. Let's continue our offensive line conversation. We touched
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: on this group earlier and I'm kind of talked about
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: the game and Cam Robinson snaps in the battle at
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: right garden. All let's talk. I'm gonna say one more
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: thing about Cam Robinson. Yes, he's a still a young
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: player who really has played one year. Right in the
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: game and a half, Yeah, half a game. It was
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: the first quarter got hurt. Um, how do you feel
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: about him coming back and you know, starting sixteen games
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: off the a C after having six plays in the preseason. Uh,
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: I'm not very comfortable with it. I was thinking the
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: same thing now. I think Camp, My position of Camp's
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: never changed. I think he's immensely talented. I love his nastiness,
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: he's physical, he's tough. I just think his footwork has
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: been just really average at best, and what gets him
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: in trouble And Um, I'm not gonna make any judgments
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: from the six places we saw. But it wasn't good.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: But that's okay. I mean, coming back from a c L,
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: just just beat out there. Yeah, just yeah. I'm like,
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: I don't want to be critical. Really, he's working hard,
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: but that has to get better and his conditioning is
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: not going to be where it needs to be. I mean,
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, I've I've done it playing
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: temporary teen plays in the preseason coming off in a
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: c L and mine was seven and a half months
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: and this is gonna be almost eleven. Um. But you're
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: for that first few you're like that first game sucking wind.
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: I mean it's oh, I mean you have like you,
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: by the way, you're playing against pretty damn good player
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: and Frank Clark he's pretty good. Yeah, And so I'm
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about that. I think that's interesting.
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: I think now let me talk about this and we'll
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: talk about this to falling week JP with Pete and Jeff,
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: and I'll talk about on the Thursday night show leading
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: up to the game. I think if you're John D. Philippo,
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: you have the game plan for that. I mean, that's
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: a game plan and then, and you better hope you
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: got your rookie right a rookie on the other side. Okay,
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: right now, who are you more confident in based on
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: I'm more confident in Juwan Taylor's past protection. My point
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: is you have to pick one. You have to get, like,
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: if you want to actually sing guys out in the
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: past route, you gotta pick one. Now. The one good
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: thing is if you watch Philly in the past, and
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: you watch a lot of teams, and we didn't do
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: it for very much in the past. We did at times.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: I think John d Football will do a good job
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: of chipping on the way out with tight ends, formationing
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: the defense to help his tackles if they're struggling. And
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: you can do that on both sides, but as far
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: as like really helping and really game planning, you'd like
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: don't have to do it on one side of the
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: offensive line. I think you have to choose Cam Robinson
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: early just because he's coming off as a c L
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: and as I've been thinking about this first quarter of
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: the season, you know we break it down the quarters
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: at first four games. Cam Robinson's gonna be a work
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: in progress, and I just want to set expectations if
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: everyone listening, and that's normal. He's a young player. He's
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: a young player. Come up with a c L who
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: hasn't a lot of reps with with that work in progress.
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: We were just talking during a break about making the
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: cuts on this offensive line. Let's assume that we have
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: eight spots open, eight spots maybe nine, eight for sure.
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: And here and here's why I say, Hey, don't you
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: want to keep one extra guy, maybe a tackle to
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: help out if you need help with that tackle position. Well,
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: depending on the depth, sometimes you'll keep nine or ten. Absolutely.
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: But here's here's why I say that is because the
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: way he had a hamstring just today. Okay, um, do
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: you expect him back? Yes? Maybe, Um, but you would
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: like to have since Will Richardson is really no longer
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: a tackle now he's competing that guard, do you now
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: want to have a backup tackle. So, and I know
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: that Josh Wells, we haven't seen him get a lot
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: of snaps in the preseason. Leonard Wester has not been
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: great in the preseason. Been Elana was brought in Layton camp,
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: but Wester is clearly the number is clearly guy the
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: second tackle. Let me ask you this Tony. I'm just
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: telling you what by the depth charts and playing time,
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: and I'm not saying I agree with it. Would you
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: would you? Would he be a part of your right?
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: Would not listen? We can all agree on these ones
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: right here, which is our starters, Cam Robinson, Andrew Norwell,
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: Brandon Lender, A J. Cann and Will Richardson. Will put
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: both of them in there. So that's five. Cedric O
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: boy he is six, and Juwan Taylor's starting right tackle
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: is seven. Uh. One Shatley is I'll say this, Shatley,
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be on his way out,
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: but I think you're going anywhere. I don't think I
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: think he's back. You can snap, you can play guards.
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: I've got eight right there. Ye. Well, the reason why
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: I say Shatley I think is a lock is number one.
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: Uh Brandon Lender has not been able to play sixteen
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: games and in quite some time. So I'd like to
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: have a guy that can start at center. He's ever
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: done it? Maybe not, but you want to have a
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: guy that can start at center weekend and week out,
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: and Tyler Shatley has proven that he can do that. A. J.
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: Cann is taken snap I would feel more comfortable with
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: a J. Cannon the role. If he's not starting, he's
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: gonna be a swing guy for games. What about McDermott,
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: good question, he's played well in the preseason, hasn't practiced
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: great good question, and hasn't played much in the preseason.
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: But what he has, he's done pretty good out there. Yeah,
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: he's done pretty good job. But would wouldn't you want
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: to have I would say have another tackle of because
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: then Brandon Thomas has been talked a little bit about
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: by the coaching staff. They kind of like him. Darl
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: Green for a while it was hot, yea, And he's
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: probably a practice schools, a practice squad guy, saying body.
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: As far as the active roster, yeah, no, Danielle Green
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: is not going to make the active roster. He's he's
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: a practice squad guy. He was a tackle at Minnesota
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: and now they've moved him into guard. He is a
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: practice squad type of guy. We ask you this, if
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: you know, if there's the concern about Cam that you
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: just talked about, you know, he's hurt in a blaze's
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: banged up week one. Still, that's my point. Do you
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: keep nine now going into the sea as an extra
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: guy or West or whoever they like. Somebody might keep
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: both smash you just because bodies we got eight. If
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: you had if you could keep nine, Tony Bussell, who
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: would you want to have? Is your nine? And we're
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: assuming Cam Robinson, Andrew Norwell, Brandon Lenner, Tyler Shatley, A J. Camwell, Richardson,
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: Cedricoboyhe and Juwan Taylor are your eight? All right? If
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: you're asking me, because I'm saying, who can if I
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: have to get someone to go play left tackle for
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: one game to get me, you're saying is if you
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: had nine? Thinking about it, then I would right now.
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: And I know this is not the view of the
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: coaching staff. And I only know this because based on
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: playing time is I would pick Welles before I put Wester.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: So would I. But if you look at what the
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: uh George warhop de offensive line coach and Doug Morone
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: and how they've structured the playing time in the preseason,
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: Western is clearly ahead of Josh Wales. I don't see
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: it now. I don't watch every practice, I'm not in
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: the meetings. I don't know just from the games, just
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: from the game stuff it I'm watching and practice the
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: practices I've seen. I think Wells I'd feel more comfortable
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: with Wells because of the athletic ability. Western is more powerful,
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But movement he struggles with. And
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: he guys get on the edge really fast. We saw
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: it on the interception play at the holding to save
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: Nick Foles. He almost died. Nick Wells a great yeah.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: West was the greatest penalty I've ever seen anyone commit
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: because Nick Foles was about to get hammered. And so
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: I would feel better about Wells because I think you
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: have an issue right now. At left tackle. Juwan Taylor
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: is not a left tackle, never played it. He's the
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: right tackle. I think he played a little bit of
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: it in Florida. Is early, very early. No, I know
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: he's the right tackle, I'm saying I don't. I think
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: he's just like spot duty um, where he is hurt,
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: where he struggled. I mean both tackles, especially at left tackle.
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: We saw struggle against the Eagles. How bad is the hamstring?
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't even know how bad I'm practice. Um.
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: Will Richardson is a right tackle, what I'm saying, But
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: if you had to play tackle, he could play right
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: tackle for you, because that was the idea when he
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: came in. But he's gonna I mean, I'm as I'm
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: thinking through these scenarios and like, who's gonna play left
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: tackle on the roster. Well Way's hurt, Jewan Taylor is not.
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: He's your right tackle. Will Richardson is a right tackle.
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever even played left tackle, and
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: he's probably starting right guard. Who's left it? You got?
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: You got the choice of really three guys Wester we
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: Wester Wells or and I haven't seen the left or
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: if if there's a guy on waiver wires there's not
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: left tackle, left tackle. Let me say this, left tackles,
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: don't put it this way. You know, you're picking up
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: Alana or Wester if you were to keep Wells if
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: you're another team, probably not not unless it was Straits, yeah,
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: dire Straits or desperate Yeah, I think it's call for
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: desperate measures, you know. But it's right, Logs. We'll get
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: your mic back on in just a moment here. These
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: are perfect, just got better. But that it's it's an
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: interesting conversation. Really can go down to the wire here
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: on opening day. It's a concern and who's up and
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: down and healthy and not it is your real concert.
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: The left tackle position has been a concern of mine
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: all camp. It continues to be a concern. And I'm
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: not and if Cam Robinson's listen to this, this has
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: nothing to do with whether I think Cam Robinson is
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: a good player or not. He's a young player. Come
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: off on a c l in the first in the
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: first few games, he's gonna be it. It's gonna be
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: a bat He's aft the battle and it's not gonna
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: be easy, and he knows it. And that's okay. He's
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: a competitor. But right now, you don't have an answer
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: if something were to happen to Cam Robinson and answer that,
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: you're really unless unless Oway's healthy, then he's the guy.
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: Then he's the guy, and you can and you can
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: listen as far as backup tackles. That's a good he's
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: a good solution in this league is having a guy
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: like way. Nothing wrong with that. I mean, I'm not
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: I don't want him to start. I came to start,
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: but um, it'll be interesting to watch and and we'll
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: talk about all week leading up to the Kansas City game.
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: But that's a that's a that's something that John D.
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: Felippe is gonna have to and that offensive staff is
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: gonna have the game plan for Frank Frank Clark coming
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: to town. Jeff Logans back with us, no welcome back anywhere.
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: How did it become my issue because he's always passing
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: the buck. I have nothing you blame it. You are
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: that you are the biggest finger pointer, Like what a
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: bad teammate. I mean just points of thing. I don't
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: how you doing on the other shows, Jeff, But on
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: this show, we don't point the finger. I take a
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: sell at show responsibility for our actions. I don't know
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: about that. Wow, that's a fact. It's not a fact.
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: I did nothing. This chord right here, Okay, see that
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: one right there? Yeah that see your big foot right there.
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: That chord is attached to this right here, and you're
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: pulling it away. I'm not pulling anything away, Thank you
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: very much. We're back in a moment trying to figure
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was bad at Pete. On
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: this show, Jeff's much worse. We're on a good run.
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: Bad teammate, point the finger? You know what you do
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: when you Mike goes out. Just suck it up and
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: figure it out. I'm pointing the finger. Everyone sees it.
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: Wait till the break, you'll point another finger at it.
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: Probably back in a moment. We'll delve into Doug marrone's
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: thoughts about this week, in particular, he hates it spoil
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: the teas. We'll hear on the head Coach coming up
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- 1:17:24Speaker 1: A Bank. Elien COO interesting thoughts. Went around the locker
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: room yesterday and kind of got some different perspectives on
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: what this week holds. And Elie's one of him. He's
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: been around here now for a couple of years. Um.
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: Another one was McBride, the wide receiver who was kind
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: of on the bubble, but he's a fourth year player.
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: He's been around the league and he kind of understands
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: what this week is about. And if you if you
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: play against get it again what this week is about,
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: and how to handle the rookies o JP. They don't
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: know what it's about. No, they don't know what It's
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: a weird field in the in the just walking around
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: the locker room again today. Just it's because next week after,
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: I mean, what thirty the guys are gone. It was
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: always amazing to me when when we would have roster cuts,
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: it was it was more of a step system than
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: what it is today, because you went we went from
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: ninety to seventy five and then down to fifty three,
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: and then they made it now just one cut so
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: that they would have more players available to play in
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: the last preseason game. It was only a few years
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: ago they changed that, and uh, I just remember when
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: we went from seventy five down to fifty three. I mean,
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: it was it was a big change. And uh when
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: you came back in the locker room and you're like,
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: is this all that's on our team now? You know,
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: because the numbers all a sudden shrink so dramatically, and
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: you and it is kind of hard. The first couple
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: of days is kind of hard, but you really don't
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: want to waste much time thinking about it because look,
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: you gotta you got a game that counts coming up
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: in a week. So so it's a lot different. But
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: you know, a guy like Eli Elienko, I mean, he's
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: rightfully taking the right approach because is he's a bubble guy.
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: He's a guy that you now have a draft pick
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: that was drafted in dante Vious Russell from Auburn and
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: the seventh round and has been a guy that's shown mobility,
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: he shows that he's got some pass for us. He's
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: got sized like Elienko, and so it's gonna be a
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: tough decision between one of those two guys and Tony.
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be one or the other, and
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: I think it's gonna Russell is more athletic, moves better.
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: Uh Elienk, who's really a two gap type of player.
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: Um would be great in the three or four as
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: a nose good football player. Taking nothing away from him,
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: but I just think the athletic ability of Russell is
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: probably gonna give him a little bit of the edge,
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: you know. It did to pick up on Jeff was
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: saying about cut day, and Jeff and I are always
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: in a different situation, I mean, being high draft picks
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: and then you know, you don't worry about that kind
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: of stuff. But what I found interesting is it affects
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: everybody because your friends, I mean, and it it really
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: the big impact is the closer you like your position group,
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: because that's what you're really close to camp. I mean,
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: not that you're close to other guys. When you're friends
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: with the defensive lineman, you hang, I mean you eat
- 1:20:07Speaker 1: together maybe, and you have your group of you know,
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: the click whatever theo's clicks within every organization and everything else,
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: but you really become close with the guys that you're
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: in the meetings with all the time, especially in the
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: old days when you're practicing twice a day and you're
- 1:20:19Speaker 1: at meeting still ten ten thirty at night, and so
- 1:20:21Speaker 1: you spent a lot of time during camp and then
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: all of a sudden, these are guys that get cut
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: and they're your friends. And that's the difficult part because
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: you know it greatly impacts their lives. Some of them
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: have families and wives, and they're you know, trying to
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: figure out, you know, trying to get on somewhere else,
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: or they need to go on to the next stage
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: of their career, which is all these different things that
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: go into it, and then the next moment. So that's
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: a that's a tough weekend because you know, you're trying
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: to figure out what's going with your friends and your
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: phone calls and everything else. But then you show up
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: the week work Monday, and you look around like, Okay,
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: this is our team, let's go to work. Here come
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: the chiefs of town on the next Sunday. I don't
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: want to sound like like having no heart or no emotion,
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: but literally I remember coming in Monday and you almost
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: forget about everyone else. That's not there. It's no different
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: and it happens all the time. We're talking about Andrew
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: Luck earlier. When you're hurt as a hurt player, like
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: you're not there, you're not a part. It's like we're
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: going to battle these guys. They're still going to tee
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: it up at one o'clock on Sundays. It's like, this
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: is what we're doing. And so it's a really tough
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: emotional weekend for a lot of guys, and I think
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: for the whole team because you have friends. But then
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: come Monday, it's all forgotten about. And head coach Doug
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: Marone has a little bit of a different perspective on this.
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: He's been a bubble player when he was a player
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and this one kind of
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: cuts close to home. It's the challenge of you know,
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: how much you want to, you know, get ahead and
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: get ready for your opening game. You know, it's a
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: challenge of making sure you do the right thing for
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: the people that are still trying to make the team.
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: You know, they're obviously always a couple of spots left. Uh,
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: but then it's tough because you know I probably can
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: um you guys know relate to the anxiety, you know,
- 1:22:12Speaker 1: with a lot of the players that have been giving
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: us everything they had and you know, trying to you know,
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: make it in the NFL, and um, you know, in
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: a couple of days and everybody's life changes. So those
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: are the things that are tough about this week. Is
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: that coach Doug Marone and that you know he says
- 1:22:30Speaker 1: something similar to that every year in this week, at
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: the start of this week or around this time frame,
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: that that's a real thing for him. I mean, you know,
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: he has to sit across the table and tell a
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: guy that he's not good enough for this football team. Well,
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: he he wants to have a conversation with each player,
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: and he does, and he remembered as a player pretty
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: much he said this, at least he remembers almost every
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: word that was told to him in that situation. So
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: he wants that to be a um something to remember
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: and as positive as it can be in that moment,
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: because it's not as a player. As as a player,
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: if you're gonna get cut, you're like, dude, just tell
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: me I'm cutting, then let me out of here. Yeah,
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: I'm sure that that's kind of the emotion there, but
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: as I wouldn't want the niceties. Yeah, I wouldn't. I
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: wouldn't like that. He'll shoot you straight up. No, I'm
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: not saying I'm not saying nothing about what you saying.
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: I just like, just if I'm cut, I'm cut. Unless
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: you can help me get onto another team. Yeah, waste
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: of time. I got to look, there's a lot of
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: people involved in that decision making process. And I don't
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: know how the Jaguars do it because you know, every team,
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: going back to my first year in the league, I
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: remember we had a turk. You know. He was the
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: hatchet man, you know that that would walk around the
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: hallways or the locker room and and basically grab guys
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: or the hotel if we were staying at a hotel,
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: you know, knock on your door and say hey, you know,
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: bring your playbook and come on, and you're like, nobody
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: ever wanted to see it. Some people would hide from
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: that guy. Uh, he's gonna stop him from getting cut, Yeah, exactly.
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: And some guys that did hide, they literally hid. They
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: couldn't find it. But we gotta remember back in back then,
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: we didn't have they can't cut. They can actually remember
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: the rams hard knocks year. It was a strength coach
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: who was the guy. He would get the text or
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: the email and he'd have to go up in the
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: weight room. Man, I wouldn't want to do I wouldn't
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: want to do that. That's tough. It's gotta be tough, right,
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: I just I mean, that's that's not that's not cool.
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: If you if you've got that job. Sometimes like it's
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: it can be a younger kind of intern type guy.
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: A second, it's not that it's not cool. It's just
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: a tough who used to do it back in the
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: early days. Less who's now the g M and l
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: A about that. He used to he used to be here.
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: He wouldn't do it. He'd come grab the guys, say
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: come exactly. But he was the guy. But he was
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: the one who cut everybody. Sure, but Tom wasn't the
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: one going to the lot. I remember those twos. Grab
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: the guys. They would come and get you and then
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: take you down to see Tom. Or A lot of
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: times what would happen is because it was in the weekend.
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: You get a phone calls were the last cuts were done,
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: you know, Saturday and Sunday or Friday and Saturday. After
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: the last preseason games. It was Thursday night, sometimes a
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: Friday game back then, and everyone who have off, and
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: so we'd all be at home getting ready because we
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: knew the season was getting ready to start, and everyone
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: else would be sitting there waiting to buy the phone,
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: hoping they weren't getting a phone call, because if you
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: got a phone call, you gotta go, you gotta come
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: in again. I remember one of the worst cuts I've
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: ever seen, timing wise, Tony, remember this, Uh in Denver,
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: we were able to sign Clyde Simmons. So Clyde literally
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: got cut from Arizona. So we're picking them up, so
- 1:25:52Speaker 1: they're flying him into Denver. Well, we have to let
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: somebody go because our roster is maxed out at ninety
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: or whatever. So they literally his last preseason game, yeah,
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: seventy five. So they literally call Corey Mayfield. They go
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: to his hotel room, knock on his door and say,
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: get your bag packed, you're going home. So from the hope,
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: here's a guy that's getting ready to play a preseason game,
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: you know, getting his mind right. It's the day of
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: the game, I think it was the day of the game,
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: and they knock on his door, send him home on
- 1:26:27Speaker 1: a commercial, which, by the way, is the right decisions.
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: Clyde Simmons. Clyde Simmons help us win a lot of games.
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: He did whatever happened to him. The other guy, Corey Mayfield,
- 1:26:36Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if he called on
- 1:26:38Speaker 1: anywhere else or what. But great guy, great guy, always
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: had a him an upbeat personality. You know, good, good dude.
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: How about that that that would be a bad one.
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: I think you're you're hoping to make the team. You're
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: in the hotel, you're ready to play here. If they
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: were looking for one guy to cut to make room
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: for for Clyde Simmons, and it's you, you weren't making
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: the team anyway, and so what it really just saved him.
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: Corey might have made he because he he was on
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: our team. Like, if you're gonna have a chance to
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: make it and they're looking to cut somebody because they
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: had to open up one spot, if you're the guy,
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: yeah you're probably gone tomorrow. Yeah you were gone. Yeah
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: that was but that was kind of crazy. Corey Mayfield
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: had a career in the Arena Football League after the Jaguars.
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: In fact, yeah, he was ninety two in the offseason
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: Buccaneers and two Jags in ve he was with US
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: one year and then Grand Rapids Orlando, the Philadelphia Soul
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: in the Dallas Desperadoes until like oh five, like he played.
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: Good for him, good guy. Don't miss the kickoff to
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- 1:32:29Speaker 1: this week, discussing Andrew Luck and the retirement of the
- 1:32:32Speaker 1: Colts quarterback Welcome Back, Jaguar's Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick,
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: Tony Boselli as usual, Pete Brisco out tonight in Kansas City.
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: So Jeff Lockerman sits in. Yeah, yes, thanks for joining
- 1:32:46Speaker 1: us tonight. I didn't have to have the different share either.
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: That's good. I gave up my seat for you. I'm
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: a team player. I don't point fingers like someone else does. Wow. Um,
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: let's continue, goodness our converse sation. We started the show
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: tonight with the Andrew Luck news. If I would have
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: to like point out how many times Bisselli has pointed
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: the finger on the radio airwaves, JP, Do I ever
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: blame you all the time? Literally all the time? Yes,
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: call up Frank and all the time times your fingers
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: pointed at him. Never let's continue always behind his back.
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: I thought I was doing behind your back to you
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: sitting here to my face, Yes, Um, Andrew Luck news
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: obviously the big news of the FC South, but not
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: the only thing going on in the division this week.
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: Lamar Miller tores a c L in Houston. He's done
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: for the season, and then Taylor Juan officially suspended the
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: four games for the violation of the performance enhancing substance policy.
- 1:33:52Speaker 1: He had announced it earlier himself, it became official just
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: a few days ago in Tennessee. It was just a
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: few of the headlines in the NFC South. Well, Mr Miller,
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: they traded for Duke Johnson right of the Cleveland Brown,
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: so he's gonna be able to step in right away.
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: The interesting thing about the Colts, the last time that
- 1:34:09Speaker 1: we saw Jacoby Brissette play an extended amount of time,
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: it was when they traded for him at the last second.
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: Seen and Tony loves him, thinks he's a franchise type quarterback.
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: But now we're gonna actually get an idea whether or
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: not he is this is your franchise quarterback. No, I
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: did not. I said I liked Jacoby Brisette. I think
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: he was a good trade back then because they needed them.
- 1:34:30Speaker 1: I've never said he's a franchise quarterback. Ever, I said
- 1:34:34Speaker 1: he I like him. I like the trade. I think
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: he has a chance to be a franchise quarterback. I
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: don't think. I never said he was a franchise quar
- 1:34:41Speaker 1: and I stand by that. I think he has an opportunity.
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: The guy was thrown in, won four games not knowing
- 1:34:46Speaker 1: the playbook on a bad roster that was built by
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: our GM friend that was Grigson. That was terrible. So
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: one of the reasons Andrew look, I hurt so much.
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: He got pounded all the time. They didn't build up front.
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: Chris Ballard's a He's doing a really good, really good job.
- 1:35:01Speaker 1: He has town around him, He's a above average offensive line,
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: better defense, got weapons, and he has now been in
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: the system for a whole year. I think he has
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: a chance for two years now, No one year because
- 1:35:16Speaker 1: Frank Right's only been there year. Well yeah, Frank's but
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: I mean he's been as as it'll be interest and
- 1:35:23Speaker 1: see how he plays. I think he has opportunity. I
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: like him. I love the trade when they did it,
- 1:35:28Speaker 1: and I think he has a chance. How about I'm
- 1:35:30Speaker 1: just gonna ask this off the cuff, um your a
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: FC South power rankings right now. You gotta change the
- 1:35:43Speaker 1: culture now for to me, even with even with all
- 1:35:48Speaker 1: the things you just said about it, they're still okay.
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: You know. Uh, I would say Titans are three and
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: football coin between the Jacks and the Texans. M hmm.
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: But you and I might flip the Colts in the Titans.
- 1:36:05Speaker 1: Tell me you're ranking again, Tom gonna flip it. I'm
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: gonna change it Titans for Colts three, and then flip
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: a coin between the Jags and the Texas. I'd be
- 1:36:13Speaker 1: the same, right, that's fair. I think the losing luck change.
- 1:36:18Speaker 1: I would have put the healthy Andrew lucky, would have
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: put them one in the division. Pre See. Let me
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: just ranking was just you know, doesn't it doesn't matter
- 1:36:30Speaker 1: in the grand scheme. They's just curious. But that's a
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: that's a pretty big deal. Now, and then you also
- 1:36:35Speaker 1: factor in the loss of a running back in Houston.
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: That's not as big a deal. No, no, no, no,
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: there's quarterback, but he's but he's a guy, right, and
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: they we're gonna have kind of a two headed running
- 1:36:46Speaker 1: into the rushing attack behind an offensive line that's not
- 1:36:49Speaker 1: very good. That takes pressure off of them trying to
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: protect their quarterback. That's that's kind of a big deal.
- 1:36:54Speaker 1: It's not like a quarterback, but it's but it's a
- 1:36:56Speaker 1: big deal. Still the starting running back listen Lamar Lamar
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: Miller at best was the third most important person, I
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: mean third DeShawn the DeShawn Watson the quarterback and uh
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: Hopkins the receiver. I mean, if they lost one of
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: those two, I'd be concerned. Clowning in in there yet
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: either no, he's not. It's a big one. Has not
- 1:37:17Speaker 1: signed so and there's been talk about maybe a trade
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: could could that happen for Trent Williams, who is the
- 1:37:25Speaker 1: unhappy Washington Redskins left tackle. Well, the Skins say they're
- 1:37:28Speaker 1: not getting rid of him. They want him. That's what
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: they said. THEO everybody, okay, prices. Here's how you notice
- 1:37:41Speaker 1: it's bs because the rumor was put out that the
- 1:37:45Speaker 1: Patriots offered a future one and that they turned it down. Well,
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: there was later that came out that wasn't true. It
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: wasn't true from the Patriots standpoint, but the Redskins probably
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: put it out there just so that they could broadcast
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: in an indirect way for business are I don't have
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: anything against I just think that the way they operate
- 1:38:06Speaker 1: as a joke although if I have the Texans, I
- 1:38:08Speaker 1: make the phone call because I don't think they're gonna
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: be a Clowney in. They're not gonna pay him. If
- 1:38:14Speaker 1: they get Trent Williams, who's had a bunch of injuries.
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: That the perfect thing that Dan Snyder would do, though, yeah,
- 1:38:19Speaker 1: is to sign a guy like Clowney. What do you
- 1:38:21Speaker 1: think you like that? Trade that a guest joining us
- 1:38:26Speaker 1: at the studio unnamed guests, uh in and out quickly.
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: There you have it, though the AFC sout just kind
- 1:38:32Speaker 1: of some big headlines over the last two three four.
- 1:38:35Speaker 1: The Texans have issues, though I don't think that. I
- 1:38:37Speaker 1: don't think I don't think the texts are great up front,
- 1:38:40Speaker 1: But quarterback, if the best receiver maybe in football, defense
- 1:38:46Speaker 1: is gonna be good. It does if they don''t Clowney,
- 1:38:49Speaker 1: it takes him a notch down. If Clowney doesn't get
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: in there doesn't show up. I would put Jacks one
- 1:38:56Speaker 1: because I think the defense is insane. He is so
- 1:38:58Speaker 1: disruptive on defense. He is now that he's healthy and
- 1:39:01Speaker 1: then ready to play, he was disruptive. I mean the
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: last two years he caused. His numbers aren't great, but
- 1:39:06Speaker 1: he just like beats up people. It's in the backfield,
- 1:39:09Speaker 1: and guys are gonna free because of them. How about you,
- 1:39:13Speaker 1: Jamie Rankings, Um, yeah, Colts still one, No, at the bottom.
- 1:39:17Speaker 1: We're starting from the bottom. Colts down low. Tennessee is
- 1:39:21Speaker 1: right there too. But the sole the thing for me
- 1:39:24Speaker 1: is that the Jags somehow I have to figure out
- 1:39:25Speaker 1: this Tennessee. They're gonna be You know what the word
- 1:39:28Speaker 1: is in Tennessee. You're already locked, Okay, the word. The
- 1:39:33Speaker 1: word in Tennessee is that Mario is getting out played
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: right right. You're watching the game behind the guy that Yeah,
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: that wouldn't surprise me. But but the Jags still have
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: issues with him. No, not this year. God is stopped
- 1:39:50Speaker 1: being negative saying it's the problems right now. Lock it
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: right now. The Titans go down in the division. The Titans,
- 1:39:58Speaker 1: We're gonna lock that to both games because the jag Wars,
- 1:40:01Speaker 1: jag Wars will beat them here and in Nashville. Take
- 1:40:07Speaker 1: it to the bank. What's the date today? Block SoundBite it?
- 1:40:14Speaker 1: Thank you the first lock of the year. Give me
- 1:40:17Speaker 1: Titans Colts Texans Jags four to one. Jackson the top
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: you the defense. Mainly, we don't know what the offense
- 1:40:26Speaker 1: really is yet, but you have a feeling that can
- 1:40:27Speaker 1: be good if guys are healthy. You know, it was
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: last year when guys were healthy early saw was it
- 1:40:33Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated that have the Jacksons a five win team
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: this year? Yeah, there's people picking five six wins for
- 1:40:39Speaker 1: the Jacks and Nick who knows had five last year? Well,
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: last year they were all getting picked. They were picking
- 1:40:43Speaker 1: the Jackson with the super Bowl. This year there, so
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: let's hope that. Uh yeah, but they got a Super
- 1:40:48Speaker 1: Bowl m v P now playing quarterback. Le's hope they're
- 1:40:50Speaker 1: wrong both times. I hope they're wrong. Last year that's
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: something the're wrong. This year, we'll come back. We'll go
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: around the National Football League the rest of it. Since
- 1:40:57Speaker 1: we've already touched the ANC sound, we can continue our
- 1:41:00Speaker 1: you know, like the Tennessee Titans, you can lock some
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: more things. The Tennessee Titans is an interesting team to
- 1:41:04Speaker 1: me because I like Mariota. I'm just not I mean,
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: Jeff was high on him coming out. I was not.
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: I I'm a franchise guy. Coming out. I don't think
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: he went generational generational, but I did say that I
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: would take him over Jameis Winston. Yes, and I said
- 1:41:20Speaker 1: I would not. I was right. Um so yes, everyone
- 1:41:26Speaker 1: in the NFL would take Jamis Winston more than Mariota.
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: Look at their numbers. I don't know about that. The
- 1:41:30Speaker 1: football season is I don't take to pick right now.
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: You're the GM, Don Mariota. We're running the box offense.
- 1:41:39Speaker 1: We're not. We don't need a quarterback football. You can't
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- 1:45:41Speaker 1: I guess we'll look forward to have him back next week.
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- 1:45:47Speaker 1: in value. Speaking of Pete Prisco, who is interviewing arguably
- 1:45:51Speaker 1: the best young quarterback in the NFL today, they're gonna
- 1:45:54Speaker 1: remind us again the Jakes could have had him. Well
- 1:45:56Speaker 1: they could have. But if you get a guy seen
- 1:45:58Speaker 1: the highlights some of their preseason action, they have like
- 1:46:03Speaker 1: eight guys who were in like four or three. They're
- 1:46:05Speaker 1: just run around everywhere, right they are. They are fast
- 1:46:09Speaker 1: about so you know all this talk about and we
- 1:46:11Speaker 1: talked about this a couple of weeks ago when the
- 1:46:13Speaker 1: Jags didn't play the starters the first two weeks. Well,
- 1:46:16Speaker 1: here's what homes going out there scrambling around they play
- 1:46:18Speaker 1: they played every week, by the way, diving towards the
- 1:46:21Speaker 1: end zone. And I mean it's that. That was the dumbest,
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: dumbest scramble I have ever seen in the NFL. It's
- 1:46:27Speaker 1: a real game. He might try to die for the
- 1:46:29Speaker 1: end zone. I think he slid at the end of
- 1:46:30Speaker 1: the one yard line or something, but that kind of
- 1:46:33Speaker 1: for the m v P. Man and Reid had a
- 1:46:35Speaker 1: little talking to with him about that. But I mean
- 1:46:37Speaker 1: that was they have they have a lot of weapons
- 1:46:40Speaker 1: and uh, but Jeff, I mean how much what do
- 1:46:42Speaker 1: you think about that though? I mean they're literally playing
- 1:46:44Speaker 1: those guys every week for the first three weeks. I
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: doubt to play week four. But well, I mean, is
- 1:46:49Speaker 1: it the right answer for them? Men? Maybe is it
- 1:46:52Speaker 1: the right answer for this team? Maybe? You know, I thought,
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: like I said before, I kind of sit on the fence,
- 1:46:57Speaker 1: well on this issue. Whether you whether you should or
- 1:46:59Speaker 1: should not play, that's a sea like give an opinion,
- 1:47:04Speaker 1: let's go. I mean in some in some instances, I
- 1:47:07Speaker 1: want to see the Jaguars play that. I mean, this
- 1:47:11Speaker 1: is the best. I wouldn't I wouldn't do that. I
- 1:47:14Speaker 1: would not play them every game. And I think that's
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: a mistake by Andy Reid. I thought you were talking
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: about No, I'm talking about I would I mean, I
- 1:47:23Speaker 1: just I wouldn't do that. I mean, look, it's it's
- 1:47:25Speaker 1: it's a different NFL with the amount of talent that
- 1:47:27Speaker 1: you have and and the quality of your backups. And look,
- 1:47:31Speaker 1: maybe they're different. They feel like they've got great backups,
- 1:47:34Speaker 1: but most teams don't. And you're talking about the best
- 1:47:38Speaker 1: young quarterback in football that just made a decision that
- 1:47:41Speaker 1: could have cost him in the organization greatly if somebody
- 1:47:45Speaker 1: were to whack them in that instant. So to me,
- 1:47:48Speaker 1: it's all about and I would agree, Jeff, I know,
- 1:47:52Speaker 1: I see no reward. Um. I liked him playing like
- 1:47:58Speaker 1: I would have played Nick Foles in that offense in
- 1:47:59Speaker 1: week so I'm fine with him playing Week two, Week three.
- 1:48:02Speaker 1: I don't think you need to play one or four.
- 1:48:05Speaker 1: Going back to the last time we had the power
- 1:48:08Speaker 1: rankings AFC South Power Rankings, our first edition which we'll
- 1:48:11Speaker 1: have on this showed what did you lock it? Undefeated? Locked?
- 1:48:17Speaker 1: I locked the Jags would beat, would sweep the Titans.
- 1:48:20Speaker 1: And the reason I bring this up is that in
- 1:48:23Speaker 1: in my power rankings, the first thing I said was that, well,
- 1:48:26Speaker 1: the Jags gotta get past this Titans thing. Well, this
- 1:48:29Speaker 1: Titans thing is that the Titans have won six of
- 1:48:31Speaker 1: the last seven meetings against the Jaguars. You know what
- 1:48:34Speaker 1: that means for this year? Not much, nothing, nothing. It
- 1:48:38Speaker 1: means as much as you allow to meet as a team. Like,
- 1:48:41Speaker 1: if you want to go dwell back and think back,
- 1:48:43Speaker 1: what's happened to pass? The last thing I remember Derrick
- 1:48:46Speaker 1: Henry running ninety nine and a half. I guess this
- 1:48:49Speaker 1: team come Thursday night of Week three for week two
- 1:48:54Speaker 1: week is that we played three Week three after Houston
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: Thursday night here. None of that. That doesn't matter. It
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: doesn't matter what happened last year. I'm a firm believer
- 1:49:03Speaker 1: in that. I think we make too much of that
- 1:49:06Speaker 1: streaks and all this stuff. It's nonsense. I would like
- 1:49:10Speaker 1: if you allowed to affect you, it will well, whether
- 1:49:13Speaker 1: it's affected a team or not. The reality is the
- 1:49:16Speaker 1: numbers aren't lying. No, no, I'm not saying that, but
- 1:49:18Speaker 1: it shouldn't. What does it have to do what happened
- 1:49:20Speaker 1: last year or two years ago, five years ago or
- 1:49:21Speaker 1: ten years ago. What does it have to do with this?
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: They need to bring you in and talk to the
- 1:49:26Speaker 1: team the night before the game. Bring me in. I
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: have a very small number. One Jaggar of all time
- 1:49:33Speaker 1: is here. I'll wave it for them because that's how
- 1:49:36Speaker 1: much I hate the Titans. I've locked it, so I need,
- 1:49:39Speaker 1: I need to participate in this. You did lock it.
- 1:49:42Speaker 1: I just like, what does it mean? Like for Nick
- 1:49:46Speaker 1: Foles who was in Philly last year, what does he care?
- 1:49:49Speaker 1: A rap retired, now, didn't they? Derek morgansill there, I'm
- 1:49:56Speaker 1: pretty sure I think he retired. Derek Morgan retired, he's
- 1:49:59Speaker 1: he retired to I don't know. My point is it
- 1:50:01Speaker 1: does not matter. Like Nick Foles wasn't even here. That's
- 1:50:06Speaker 1: why they picked up Cameron. You know who lost to
- 1:50:08Speaker 1: the Titans last year. The Eagles think about that for
- 1:50:12Speaker 1: a while. So falls does know about the type? No,
- 1:50:14Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. Okay, Josh Allen was in Kentucky
- 1:50:18Speaker 1: last year. Who cares? None of it matters. Well, didn't
- 1:50:22Speaker 1: he lose the Tennessee Okay, I'm trying, not working the volunteer.
- 1:50:30Speaker 1: Kentucky actually bet him las year. Yeah, I don't think
- 1:50:32Speaker 1: volunteers are whipping much of anybody. Right now. Let's try,
- 1:50:36Speaker 1: let's come, let's continue, let's go around the National Football League.
- 1:50:40Speaker 1: We're not taking another commercial. Um. Let's start off with
- 1:50:44Speaker 1: Patrick Chung pleading not guilty to cocaine possession charges. Rainment
- 1:50:49Speaker 1: scheduled for this week. Next court appearance November eight. So
- 1:50:51Speaker 1: what was the story? Did they come into his house
- 1:50:53Speaker 1: and found the cook like he had a break in
- 1:50:55Speaker 1: or something I read and then the police came in
- 1:50:58Speaker 1: or like, how do they find coke? I don't know,
- 1:51:02Speaker 1: but but it was it happened back in like June
- 1:51:05Speaker 1: a while back, yeah or something. Look at the details.
- 1:51:08Speaker 1: I want to know how they found it. What is you?
- 1:51:11Speaker 1: We'll get to that, yes, But what matters because that's
- 1:51:13Speaker 1: his whole defense. He's gonna have some defense that it
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: wasn't his couse in New Hampshire. Um, the arrangment was
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: scheduled for this week. He waved it, uh, and we'll
- 1:51:22Speaker 1: get the d I gotta I gotta dig through the
- 1:51:24Speaker 1: d's a little bit more. But for the point, that's
- 1:51:26Speaker 1: his defense. I it's not my coke. It was someone
- 1:51:29Speaker 1: else's cocaine. So grand jury charge in June Meredith, New Hampshire,
- 1:51:35Speaker 1: where Chung has a residence. So yeah, I thought I
- 1:51:39Speaker 1: read somewhere. I don't want to say that's whatever. That's
- 1:51:43Speaker 1: his defense, but it's not. It's not a good look.
- 1:51:46Speaker 1: I hope it's I hope it's not his not not
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: for him just to be get all for anything like that,
- 1:51:52Speaker 1: just for his personal well being, because if he's using coke,
- 1:51:58Speaker 1: it ain't gonna end good. I'll tell you that. Jacobe Brissette,
- 1:52:03Speaker 1: we've mentioned the culture of the show right here, right, Um, well,
- 1:52:07Speaker 1: he's the Colt starting quarterback now, you know Andrew Luck retired. Really,
- 1:52:10Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys heard the start of
- 1:52:12Speaker 1: the show, but apparently Brissette does not have an official agent,
- 1:52:18Speaker 1: so apparently agents around the league or bringing his phone
- 1:52:22Speaker 1: off the hook, I'm sure trying to get him up
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: board about that. Yeah, I'm sure. Fact though, when we
- 1:52:27Speaker 1: were down in Miami, we saw one of the Powerhouse
- 1:52:30Speaker 1: agents in the hotel. So I'm on the sideline, which
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: is Drew Rosenhouse and I don't know how many clients.
- 1:52:37Speaker 1: That guy's got a lot, but he can. I don't know.
- 1:52:41Speaker 1: If there's a person on the plant that does a
- 1:52:42Speaker 1: better job of managing people than him, he's goot, Boris
- 1:52:45Speaker 1: Baseball has a lot as well. It probably makes more
- 1:52:49Speaker 1: money because the baseball contract. But that's about it. I mean,
- 1:52:54Speaker 1: I mean in the NFL world, I mean Drew A.
- 1:52:56Speaker 1: Rose now he is the man? Is he still the guy? Oh? Yeah,
- 1:53:01Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not saying I don't know. Is he
- 1:53:03Speaker 1: still the biggest agent? I would say so, I have
- 1:53:06Speaker 1: no idea. Yes, that's the question. I don't know who
- 1:53:09Speaker 1: is But yeah, that's pretty pretty interesting. But else rest
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: easy now, guys, Antonio Brown has multiple offers of helmet
- 1:53:19Speaker 1: money is the crazy thing too. Brown is going to
- 1:53:22Speaker 1: make cash from this fiasco of the player in the
- 1:53:26Speaker 1: NFL that will have a helmet deal. Does any other
- 1:53:29Speaker 1: player have a helmet deal in the NFL? I don't
- 1:53:31Speaker 1: think they do. He's gonna be doing commercials for right
- 1:53:34Speaker 1: l or whoever whoever. I think it's shut, isn't it
- 1:53:37Speaker 1: shut because he wore a shut helmet before. No, nobody's
- 1:53:40Speaker 1: saying for sure. He has multiple Yeah, he might have
- 1:53:44Speaker 1: a new h U T T right for the highest bidder.
- 1:53:49Speaker 1: Antonio Brown can speak about helmets for you and wear
- 1:53:54Speaker 1: one on the field. I don't know if I mean
- 1:53:56Speaker 1: the helmet company can do it because it's gonna be
- 1:53:58Speaker 1: great publicity, make no a steak. But if you're if
- 1:54:02Speaker 1: you're a company and you've seen Antonio brown behavior of
- 1:54:05Speaker 1: the last two years, would you want him be in
- 1:54:07Speaker 1: your spokesman? Well, here's the thing. Whoever gets him is
- 1:54:11Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of press. And at the end
- 1:54:13Speaker 1: of the day, what are those helmet companies want brand?
- 1:54:17Speaker 1: They want their brand out there. Well, with this whole
- 1:54:21Speaker 1: idiotic craziness about a helmet and not missing, not showing
- 1:54:25Speaker 1: up the practice and appeal. That's got to be one
- 1:54:28Speaker 1: of the crazy stories ever in the NFL. But whoever
- 1:54:32Speaker 1: he goes with, it's gonna get a lot of press
- 1:54:33Speaker 1: and people are gonna be talking about. Name me a
- 1:54:35Speaker 1: story that's been crazier than that this year. No, in
- 1:54:39Speaker 1: the history of the league, the flight game, the how
- 1:54:43Speaker 1: much air pressures in football, whether Tom Braidy that was
- 1:54:46Speaker 1: way weird. Yeah, that was a weird That one went
- 1:54:50Speaker 1: on and on. But think about a person like a
- 1:54:54Speaker 1: personality in the NFL that's became a story like that.
- 1:54:59Speaker 1: Is there an other one? Is? I mean? I mean,
- 1:55:02Speaker 1: remember when Dion was playing, he was a story all
- 1:55:03Speaker 1: the time, but not like this. I mean, this is
- 1:55:05Speaker 1: this is craziness. I don't have to think back. It's
- 1:55:09Speaker 1: it's just odd, a little different. Um, the Falcons want
- 1:55:14Speaker 1: to get Julio Jones new contract done before the season.
- 1:55:17Speaker 1: Do you think they will? Yeah, I think it's already done.
- 1:55:20Speaker 1: I think it's just a matter of them. She's just
- 1:55:22Speaker 1: breaking news, are breaking I'm breaking dot com Jeff is
- 1:55:31Speaker 1: how many touchdowns does he average? Because you know you
- 1:55:33Speaker 1: about to you talked to a lot of people, and
- 1:55:36Speaker 1: his single digits touchdowns on yearly average, he had like
- 1:55:40Speaker 1: one or two last year to the year before, not
- 1:55:42Speaker 1: very many. So Tony, you just keep picking them in
- 1:55:45Speaker 1: fantasy football on game days. So I'm going with an
- 1:55:47Speaker 1: Tonio Brown new helmet. But would you do I still
- 1:55:51Speaker 1: consider Julio the best receiver's number one, Hopkins Hopkins number one.
- 1:55:57Speaker 1: If I'm picking a receiver four my team, it's DeAndre
- 1:56:01Speaker 1: Hopkins is my first pick. Yep. Yeah, last year eight
- 1:56:04Speaker 1: touchdowns for Julio three six, eight, six, two and then
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: twelve he had ten. That's his high watermark. That was
- 1:56:12Speaker 1: a second year in the league. Look at DeAndre Hopkins.
- 1:56:15Speaker 1: Would you'd probably take Hopkins over Julio. I'll take down
- 1:56:21Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, Tyreek Hill, I'll take in town Odell Beckham
- 1:56:24Speaker 1: if he's in my mind, I mean Odell like if
- 1:56:27Speaker 1: he's gonna like when he's he's bawling, he's bawling, He's amazing.
- 1:56:32Speaker 1: And that's a handful. That's the green healthyllis Jayla Ramsey
- 1:56:39Speaker 1: getting in his head again. Now, Julio is very good.
- 1:56:42Speaker 1: I mean he's anywhere from three to six, seven, eight,
- 1:56:45Speaker 1: he's right there. Yeah, he's sitting there somewhere. But he's
- 1:56:48Speaker 1: really good. He's not he's not worthy of being the
- 1:56:50Speaker 1: top paid wide receiver in the league. In my opinion.
- 1:56:54Speaker 1: That's how That's Hopkins, that's Tyreek Hill, that's Antonio Brown
- 1:56:58Speaker 1: without the craziness with I can still do things. Very good,
- 1:57:03Speaker 1: very good. He's an amazing athlete. Take your Alabama bias.
- 1:57:07Speaker 1: Had had nothing to do with that. I'm just saying, like,
- 1:57:09Speaker 1: just watching him. But if you look at and I'm
- 1:57:12Speaker 1: gonna keep I keep on saying his name, DeAndre Hopkins.
- 1:57:15Speaker 1: If you look what he's done with the quarterbacks he's
- 1:57:17Speaker 1: had to play with and the numbers he puts up, right,
- 1:57:22Speaker 1: could you imagine if DeAndre Hopkins had Matt Ryan who
- 1:57:24Speaker 1: did not have a drop last year, but it put
- 1:57:27Speaker 1: him with one of these big time quarterback Hopkins did
- 1:57:29Speaker 1: not have a drop. And it's not like Hopkins with
- 1:57:32Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberg. He's had a rotation of quarterbacks, bad offensive line,
- 1:57:37Speaker 1: fill in the blanks. Help. Uh. The NFL and the
- 1:57:43Speaker 1: NFL p A are meeting for a seventh cb A
- 1:57:46Speaker 1: full bargaining session tonight and tomorrow in Chicago. They're saying
- 1:57:50Speaker 1: a new deal before the start of the year is unlikely,
- 1:57:52Speaker 1: but talks are moving in a positive direction. The CBA
- 1:57:55Speaker 1: expires after and remember the Christian Um early while back
- 1:58:00Speaker 1: said he would want it to have a deal done
- 1:58:02Speaker 1: before the season. Sounds like we're getting close now, but
- 1:58:05Speaker 1: they're still meeting and moving ahead before this season or
- 1:58:08Speaker 1: before this season. I think the more season doesn't make
- 1:58:12Speaker 1: sure it's done because after then you're going crazy lockout
- 1:58:18Speaker 1: and everything else. So I hope it gets done. I
- 1:58:22Speaker 1: hope because I don't see any reason why I can't
- 1:58:24Speaker 1: get done considering what the league went through the last
- 1:58:26Speaker 1: time this happened. I wasn't in the league then, but
- 1:58:29Speaker 1: just watching it from the outside, just the you don't
- 1:58:31Speaker 1: want to be on that storyline of lockouts and this
- 1:58:35Speaker 1: is bad for business. Every really wasn't. How bad was it?
- 1:58:37Speaker 1: Like what happened? It's just the negative you don't want
- 1:58:41Speaker 1: everywhere where they came back and played football, nothing happened.
- 1:58:45Speaker 1: He's still the number one sport, number one American sport.
- 1:58:48Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's I get what you're saying. You
- 1:58:50Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like if you don't, if it,
- 1:58:54Speaker 1: if you can avoid it, great. The only time we're
- 1:58:56Speaker 1: to get negative. You start taking games away from the impact,
- 1:59:00Speaker 1: then it's an impact they put the way that even
- 1:59:02Speaker 1: it was an annoyance last or seven, eight years ago,
- 1:59:05Speaker 1: whatever it was. Um, but I think it gets done
- 1:59:09Speaker 1: during the season or the next offseason before I think
- 1:59:12Speaker 1: it's done for sure before the twin point season, it'll
- 1:59:14Speaker 1: be done. The big question is is what are they
- 1:59:16Speaker 1: do with preseason and are they going to from They
- 1:59:21Speaker 1: got to addressed the preseason games. They got to agree, Jeff,
- 1:59:24Speaker 1: and then they don't need to change the regular season. Actually,
- 1:59:27Speaker 1: I probably would mean towards Jeff and not too alright,
- 1:59:29Speaker 1: Fellas Tony, well done, Hey blogs, thanks for thanks for
- 1:59:32Speaker 1: coming in, Jeff, way to go. Let's get out of
- 1:59:34Speaker 1: my seat. Best show of the year, Joe Fortunato, Brent
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