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Young Amish Male _ This Past Weekend w_ Theo Von _607(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: Mmm, Bobby. We've added some merch from when Bobby wasn't
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  Speaker 1: helping me figure out how to talk to him or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: And thanks so much for your support.
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  Speaker 2: More there.
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  Speaker 1: Today's guest is our young friend from Lanesboro, Minnesota. He's Amish.
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  Speaker 1: He's an Amish. He's an Amish person, and he's on
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  Speaker 1: Rumspringa right now, and we're excited to learn about what
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  Speaker 1: it means to be Amish and what it's like and
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  Speaker 1: how things are going for him today. Today's guest is Amish,
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  Speaker 1: and his name is Timothy. Shine on.
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  Speaker 3: Me, and I will find you.
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  Speaker 1: All right, sitting here with an Amish dude, basically.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And you're 100% Amish?
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  Speaker 2: 100% Amish, born and raised. I can speak Pennsylvania Dutch,
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  Speaker 2: still Amish, and still living at home.
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  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Dutch, it's called?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Pennsylvania Dutch is like a dialect of German.
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  Speaker 2: It's quite a bit different from German, but.
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  Speaker 1: It's quite a bit different from German, you said?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a dialect from it, and so if
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  Speaker 2: someone would be talking like, Like, German, you can kind
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  Speaker 2: of understand them, but, like, most of the words, you can't.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, do people, like, do your parents speak German and
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  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Dutch?
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  Speaker 2: No, just Pennsylvania Dutch and English.
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  Speaker 1: And would your grandparents possibly speak German, or your great-grandparents?
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  Speaker 2: No, they were all Pennsylvania Dutch, so.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Understood. But it's kind of a branch of, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the people there have German lineage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. Like, I think every Amish is, like, Swiss, German, because...
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  Speaker 2: Most of them came from that area. And the funny
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  Speaker 2: thing is, in school, like on Fridays, we learn like,
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  Speaker 2: so that's basically the day where we read German, spell German.
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  Speaker 2: And also every morning in school, we also sing like
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  Speaker 2: three hymns out of, it'd be a little book with
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  Speaker 2: like red pages where we sing German hymns out of. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the funny thing is like, I can kind of read
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  Speaker 2: German and I can spell German. but I do not understand, like,
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  Speaker 2: the German that I'm reading and spelling. Some of it
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  Speaker 2: I can, but most of it I can't.
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  Speaker 1: So you can comprehend a little bit, but you couldn't
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  Speaker 1: really then recite it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, because sometimes for, like, Christmas and stuff, we had to, like,
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  Speaker 2: there's also a green German book, which when you're in
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  Speaker 2: lower grades, like fifth and under, you read out of that,
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  Speaker 2: where there's, like, bigger paragraphs in the back where it's
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  Speaker 2: all German, and sometimes for, like, Well, most, every time, actually.
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  Speaker 2: For Christmas and stuff, we had to learn, memorize all
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  Speaker 2: of those. And I guess I wasn't the greatest because
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  Speaker 2: I kind of, I guess, lost interest for it if
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  Speaker 2: I didn't understand it, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's probably ADD or whatever. Do they have
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  Speaker 1: ADD in the Amish community?
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  Speaker 2: So I don't even, what, do you know what is ADD?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even quite sure.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. ADD, it's like, let me think. Hmm. You
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  Speaker 1: ever have that feeling like when somebody's tickling you or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: kind of? Yeah. And you're like, you just can't even
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  Speaker 1: handle it? Yeah. It's like that feeling, but it's like
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  Speaker 1: in your brain, kind of, when you're trying to pay attention.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like you're paying attention doesn't work, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Oh. No, I don't think anyone has had to do
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  Speaker 2: that enough. I hope not. Because that wouldn't be too
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  Speaker 2: fun to have.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I think it's like, yeah, you get to
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  Speaker 1: change your mind without even doing it, you know?
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  Speaker 2: So if you drive a car, if you have ADD,
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  Speaker 2: so can you focus on the road or you're like
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  Speaker 2: looking over to the ditch and then this car and
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  Speaker 2: the guy in the passenger seat?
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  Speaker 1: I think it gets a little bit testy for some people,
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  Speaker 1: like it's too much, you know? Yeah, pull that up.
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  Speaker 1: Do the Amish have ADD? Pull that up. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: a gander at that. That's a great question.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I've never heard of ADD before.
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  Speaker 1: Then you must not have it, brother. Yeah. Yeah. The
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  Speaker 1: Amish do experience ADD, but reported rates are noticeably lower
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  Speaker 1: than in the general population, and diagnosis practices may differ
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  Speaker 1: significantly due to cultural and lifestyle factors. Wow, that's pretty fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: When you're born in Amish country, are you born at
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  Speaker 1: a hospital? Are you born at home? What's it like?
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  Speaker 2: So that varies a lot, too. Over the last probably 15, 10,
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  Speaker 2: 15 years, a lot more have been born in a hospital.
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  Speaker 2: I know there's some... People in our community, all of
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  Speaker 2: them were born at home. Half of them were born
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  Speaker 2: at home. And then also some were born in the hospital.
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  Speaker 2: Now me and my, all my brothers, we were all
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  Speaker 2: born in the hospital. So it all varies, varies from
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  Speaker 2: family to family. Most of the time.
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  Speaker 1: Um, are you allowed to use like municipalities, like a
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  Speaker 1: hospital and like a public park and those sorts of things?
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  Speaker 1: Like where does the line differ between if you're Amish
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  Speaker 1: and you just straight up supposed to be at the house?
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  Speaker 1: you know, like, using chalk and just eating butter, you know,
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  Speaker 1: out of each other's hats. Yeah. And then the line
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  Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be able to, like, go to
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  Speaker 1: public parks and go to, like, non-Amish events and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so, like, me going to your concert, like, that
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  Speaker 2: would not be, like, keep that down low. But some Amish,
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  Speaker 2: I know some Amish, they go to, like, Def Leppard
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  Speaker 2: concerts and when they're, like, around my age, you know, like,
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  Speaker 2: 80s rock, Amish, like, That means that, like, party and stuff,
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  Speaker 2: they like 80s rock.
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  Speaker 1: They do?
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  Speaker 2: And then, I'm not sure how you call the music,
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  Speaker 2: but it really bumps when you turn it all the
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  Speaker 2: way up.
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  Speaker 1: That 80s rock?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's, like, some, I wonder if, like, it's, like, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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  Speaker 1: Is it kind of darker artists? Do the artists?
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  Speaker 2: You mean, like, the Suicide Boys? Oh, Suicide Boys are great. No,
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  Speaker 2: it's not the Suicide Boys. It's more like David Guetto, like,
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  Speaker 2: I think I said that.
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  Speaker 1: David Guetta?
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  Speaker 2: Guetta, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying. Oh, like EDM, house,
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  Speaker 1: that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I don't ever know what you call it, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: if you turn that stuff all the way up, it
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  Speaker 2: really shakes something up. If you have a big stereo
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  Speaker 2: system in a building, that building starts shaking.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: And the Amish, they really feel that. You can really
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  Speaker 1: feel your barn raise when you hear that, huh?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, but that stuff we only do in the weekends.
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  Speaker 2: That stuff is kind of like, Nah.
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  Speaker 1: That's secret.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Do the Amish listen to Morgan Wallen ever
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  Speaker 1: or no?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. I have a buddy, actually my coworker, Atlee.
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  Speaker 2: He lost Morgan Wallen and he's in Rome Springer too.
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  Speaker 2: So he wants to go to his concert one time.
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  Speaker 2: So that would be fun. I thought your concert was
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  Speaker 2: pretty cool too. The music that they played in the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I've never really heard that music before, but it was
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  Speaker 2: like I was jamming out to it and it was really,
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  Speaker 2: really fun.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, dude. Yeah, we play a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: at our shows. There I am right there with your
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  Speaker 1: hat you brought to me. That was in Seattle. In
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the shows, we play a band. It's
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  Speaker 1: called New Orleans Jazz Vipers.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just like some good kind of jazz New
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  Speaker 1: Orleanian music. I think it puts people in a mode
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  Speaker 1: of like they're going to, you know, some type of
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  Speaker 1: artistic like brain space instead of just some like music
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  Speaker 1: you hear all the time, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's like I was kind of surprised. Or
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  Speaker 2: not really surprised, but I never really heard that music before.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great, man. That's a great band. I happened
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  Speaker 1: upon them in New Orleans a while back, and ever
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  Speaker 1: since then I've just enjoyed listening to them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's their horns and stuff?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, and that's what makes all the great sounds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they do a great job. Do you guys have
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  Speaker 1: instruments in your Amish village? Is it called a village?
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  Speaker 2: So it'd be considered a district. A district would be
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  Speaker 2: like different parts of church because there can be one
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  Speaker 2: big community, but there can be like four to 12
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  Speaker 2: different districts of like the church where the rules are
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  Speaker 2: a little bit different here and there. But like mostly
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  Speaker 2: be called a community.
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  Speaker 1: A community. Yeah. So the areas you live in kind
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  Speaker 1: of delineates where you go to church at?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of, or, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Can you go to any church, or if you live
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  Speaker 1: in a certain area, you kind of go to a
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  Speaker 1: certain church because it's close?
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  Speaker 2: So, in the area, you always, if damage moves somewhere,
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  Speaker 2: it's usually for a certain church in a certain area,
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  Speaker 2: and we don't have church, like, houses and stuff. Like, not, like,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen, like, really big churches. They were, like, they
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  Speaker 2: went almost, like, up to the sky and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they got some churches that are trying to do
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  Speaker 1: a lot. They're like, do you need all that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like those things are really high. So all of
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  Speaker 2: our church happens at our homes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we take turns taking church.
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  Speaker 1: So different weekends, different families will take church?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and another thing that Dalmish do is we have
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  Speaker 2: church every other weekend. So how it works is church
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  Speaker 2: here and then that gives them enough time to move
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  Speaker 2: church to the next place and you have to pick
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  Speaker 2: up all the books, pick up all the benches, and
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  Speaker 2: then move it over to your place. You also have
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  Speaker 2: to make all the food, and then people come and
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  Speaker 2: help you.
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  Speaker 1: I see. So it's part of the culture. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of exciting when you get to have church at your
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  Speaker 1: place because then everybody's coming there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it can be, but also it's a bit like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 2: church is at our place. We've got to get ready.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we've got to clean up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got to clean up, get ready.
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  Speaker 1: Be on our best behavior.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Trim the cat.
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  Speaker 2: Well, our cats actually stay in the barn because the
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  Speaker 2: Amish don't really have cats in the house. Dude, our cats,
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  Speaker 2: they're like self-sufficient. They're kind of Amish too. But we
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  Speaker 2: put dog food there. I think they might sneak a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of that.
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  Speaker 1: I could see some of them sneaking. a little.
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  Speaker 2: But sometimes I see cats coming up the pasture. They
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  Speaker 2: got like a chipmunk or a bird. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: they're big enough or fast enough to catch a squirrel.
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  Speaker 1: I am alarmed at how many regular people. What do
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  Speaker 1: you call regular people? Non-Amish?
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  Speaker 2: So if we're talking English people, We call regular people
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  Speaker 2: English people.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're talking in Pennsylvania Dutch, if you want
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  Speaker 2: a literal translation of it, we call them hooghilaad, which
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  Speaker 2: a literal translation is high people. But what it means, hooghilaad,
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  Speaker 2: what that means is like.
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  Speaker 1: People that are allowed to get high.
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  Speaker 2: That are non-Amish. But we have like a neighbor, that
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  Speaker 2: guy's from like Australia, like I think it's called land
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  Speaker 2: down under stuff. Like basically where all the kangaroos live.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's kangaroos, sharks, there's definitely, there's just people
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  Speaker 1: that'll drink beer. There's a couple of Down syndrome guys
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  Speaker 1: down there who drink beer out of the oven.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy. And I even saw some guys like they,
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  Speaker 2: they drink, they take off their shoe and they like
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  Speaker 2: pour like, like some stuff in their shoe and drink
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  Speaker 2: it right out of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It must have special feet or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they must have, uh, look at these
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  Speaker 1: guys right here and they're Australian.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, what are they doing? Look at this.
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  Speaker 1: He pulls a hot beer right out of the oven.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa, that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: He starts chugging it at one point. He doesn't care.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: But these guys are Australian.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: So they're, you know. They're a bit shorter, too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of rugby head-to-head. That'll keep your spine down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if you're like, I thought if you'd be
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  Speaker 2: upside down, like on the bottom side of the world,
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  Speaker 2: your spine would, like, go.
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  Speaker 1: Not these guys.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I think they missed a column, dude. L5S none, dude.
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  Speaker 1: These guys missed something. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Something like that.
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  Speaker 1: So non-Amish people, you call them ho... Hojiler. Hojilers.
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  Speaker 2: Hojiler.
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  Speaker 1: Hojiler.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. You're almost Amish now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 1: It's not offensive, though, hojiler.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no. Not at all. That's... It's a... It's not... Like,
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  Speaker 2: Amish don't see it as offensive. It's just a term
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  Speaker 2: to describe something. Like, Our horses, you know, some are
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  Speaker 2: standard bred, you know, and then some are brown, some
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  Speaker 2: are black. We even have some, like, white horses with, like,
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  Speaker 2: black spots on them.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. We're getting a lot of that. Outside of Atlanta,
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  Speaker 1: we get a lot of that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Where's Atlanta?
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta. Have you heard of it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Atlanta, like, Georgia?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of it. I've never been there. I
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  Speaker 2: heard they, like, that's close to where, like, the Dukes
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  Speaker 2: of Hazzard were made.
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think it is, actually. I love the Dukes of Hazzard.
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  Speaker 1: I do, too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I used to have a... The DVD player, I don't
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  Speaker 2: have it anymore. I used to have a little DVD player.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, I watched a little bit of Dukes
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  Speaker 2: of Hazzard. But the only bad part was the DVD player,
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  Speaker 2: it was before I had a battery and stuff, I
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  Speaker 2: had to go charge it somewhere else. And just before
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  Speaker 2: I had a battery, like, I'll prepare it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that way I don't run out of power. I used
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  Speaker 2: to watch some a lot because us Amish, we have
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  Speaker 2: the ones that are in Rumspringa, we have, like, we
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  Speaker 2: have DVDs and stuff. My coworker, Atlee, he's pretty... He's
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  Speaker 2: pretty stacked when it comes to DVDs because he's got, like,
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  Speaker 2: a drawer full of, like, all kinds of movies.
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  Speaker 1: Is he allowed to have it or not?
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  Speaker 2: Not really, but, like, his parents, I think they kind
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  Speaker 2: of know, but they don't bother.
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  Speaker 1: Got it. But he had some different things. He had
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  Speaker 1: Dukes of Hazzard?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I don't know if he had Dukes of Hazzard,
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  Speaker 2: but he had, like, lots of other different ones, like
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  Speaker 2: Smoking the Bandit, like Grumpy Old Man. Oh, yeah, Walter Matthau.
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  Speaker 2: Those are really funny. I think he has, like, He
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  Speaker 2: wants to get her fast and furious, too.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, he's trying to get wild, huh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like it if he's trying to do all that.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot. What about Little House on the Prairie?
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  Speaker 1: You guys ever watch that?
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  Speaker 2: I've seen a little bit on that.
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  Speaker 1: A couple hotties on there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the ones, they're almost, you mean like Laura?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a child, but I mean, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know. The mom. I'm talking about the mom.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the mom?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Carolyn.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She's cute.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of. But isn't she, like, really old now?
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  Speaker 1: She's getting older, probably. But who knows what could happen?
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  Speaker 1: You know, they're doing a lot of, like, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of biohacking and stuff now. But I'm just seeing
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  Speaker 1: a lot of beautiful ladies on here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: And now, with this something in Amish culture, if you
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  Speaker 1: see these dames, these young ladies, is that something you're
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  Speaker 1: attracted to growing up? Because they almost have, like, a
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: little bit of an Amish feel to them.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: What do you mean, like, a Like a settler. Like,
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: would this be a girl? Like, if you'd have seen
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: this when you were 12 or something, and you look
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: at Mary Ingalls right here, the older sister, you'd be like, oh,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: she's cute.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: And that's okay?
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, I'm just curious, because we grew up watching this,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: and it was great. They're remaking this right now. Oh,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: they are? They're making a new season.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: I know, so.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Dude, that one guy has white hair on his beard.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: He must be getting old.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy, he's actually, I think that guy's deceased, but...
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: You mentioned being on Rumspringer, right? Yeah. So you're on
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Rumspringer right now?
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Right now, yep.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. How does Rumspringer start? How long does it last?
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Who gets to go on it?
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, so pretty much everyone goes on it. Now, I've
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: heard of where, like, families, like, didn't let their kids
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: go on it. But, like, that has happened. But, like, they,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: when that, sometimes when that happens, like, the kid just
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: leaves and Like, he becomes English.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, because they feel they can't, they're not allowed to,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: that the family's not following the rules?
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: No, everyone can go on Roomspringa. Everyone does it, every single, now,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: every single, like, every single community that does Roomspringa, like,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: they usually go on, because what happens is around 16,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: 16 and a half, you go, you join Roomspringa, which
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: we call the Yuma.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: The Yuma?
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which basically means... What was it? Like young people.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: The youth? Yeah, youth. There you go. That'd be a
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: better word for it. So you're picking up.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: The yua.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Yep, the yua.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Makes sense. Yep.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: So that's when you go to like sing-ins after church. Now,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: I never really went to one because when I went
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: on Romspringa, the church was kind of already going down
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: because our church kind of– kind of split up now. Actually,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: our bishop kind of, he kind of booked out, he
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: kind of decked out. So, yeah. So right now there's, there's,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: we still have church, but it's like only like an hour,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: like hour and a half. And, and so there's a
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: lot of Amish around us. There's, there's still Amish. And then,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: but they're not a member of church anymore anymore. Cause
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: when it opens in the Swartz and Troop Amish.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, when what opens?
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Like, so when the, when the church doesn't come to
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: agreement for like a, for a while, and then, it's
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: kind of like a rule that they have to open
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: the doors and then whoever wants to go can, you know,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: get out of the, no longer be a member of
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: the church and doesn't require to follow the rules. That's
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: only when you're like joined the church already.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, so members of the church, if the church is,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: if for some reason there's some problem within that church
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: where they're not able to, like maybe obviously there was
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: a problem with the bishop you're saying?
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Well, like the like the people in the community and
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: the bishop and like the, like there was, there was
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: an argument. Yeah. They were not agreeing on the same things.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Okay. Understood. So there was a disagreement. Yeah. And so
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: the bishop left.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that is actually, this is a very rare
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: thing to happen. The bishop just like, it was months.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: It was probably over a year of like this stuff happening,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: but it was usually like the, like the smallest things.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: And I think it like annoyed some of the, uh,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: like the people in the congregation.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Like some of the, some of the members, because I know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I know of a guy, like, they came to his
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: house because he was certain because the curtains on his
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: window were, like, not the right shade of blue or
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: even the reflectors on the Buc-ee's because our Buc-ee's don't
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: have that many reflectors, not compared to, like, Buc-ee's in Ohio, Indiana,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: and Pennsylvania because they got, like, that big— Big reflector plate? Yeah,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: like that triangle thing.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: It's flashy, huh?
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is flashy. And, yeah, we don't have that reflection. Actually,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: go to the left, that Buc-ee that's white horse.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: One more. Right there. That's yours.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: That's how our buckies look like. And there was, what
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: was their reflector on the front or the back of
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: a buckie like that? And they didn't like that.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: So the bishop had too many reflectors on his buckie?
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: No, like the members had too many reflectors on their buckie,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and they got after him for that.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, the bishop got after him for it? Yeah.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Like the bishop doesn't even live in this community. He
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: lives down there because our bishop before, he actually died
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: in a house fire, so.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: No.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the whole house burnt down. How?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: What happened? A candle?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think it was a candle.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I think it was something with a stove in the
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: wash house, and this was a hot fire. It was
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: 20 below, and this hot fire, I was told it
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: was hot. And maybe it wasn't 20 below, but it
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: was definitely 10 below or so.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: The fire just kept burning?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: The fire just kept burning, and when the people came
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: out to, like, The people in the red, the people, like,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: what do you call it?
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: The firemen? Yeah.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: They had to, like, keep the water running so their
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: holes wouldn't freeze. It was really cold. And his wife
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: actually survived. And apparently when she came out, it was
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: so hot, she just laid on the snow. And, like,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: she was fine for a little bit, but she had, like,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: she had a little bit of burns and stuff like that.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Do they think she started it or no?
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Because we don't have insurance. Like,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: we don't have life insurance and stuff, so. I think
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: it was I think it was an accident but that
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be too funny if she like thought she had
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: life insurance yeah that would be wouldn't that be like illegal.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Between the hohile that happens all the time the hohile
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: are always killing their spouses for insurance.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Money that's not very nice that's like isn't that murder.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Yup that sure is that's not very nice and dude
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: not only is it murder what But it's murdering for money.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: But I guess if you don't have life insurance, you
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it. Yeah. It's kind of nice.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: So go ahead, kill me. You won't get anything. Yeah.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: That's kind of the idea.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: So yeah, damage, like back in the wars, I think
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the government tried to force us to go to wars.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: But we're like pacifists and stuff. Like, yeah, we'll like
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: wrestle and stuff when we're younger. And then also sometimes
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: maybe argue. But other than that, like we don't like
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: kill each other.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: The Amish were pretty peaceful. Yeah.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, because back in the wars and stuff,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: we just did all the cooking and the cleaning and
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: saving people too.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Is that true? Let me read that right here. The
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Amish were subject to the military draft in U.S. wars,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: but due to their religious beliefs as pacifists, they were
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: usually classified as conscientious objectors and assigned to noncombatant or
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: alternative service roles. World War I and II, Amish men
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: were drafted, but most received farm deferments or performed non-combatant services.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Some were sent to army camps and suffered abuse when
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: refusing military service entirely. And in rare cases, some were
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: imprisoned for refusing all forms of service.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Amish, and where the Amish came from,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: like they went through a lot of stuff. There's a book, actually,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: where the Amish came from was like from the Anabaptists.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Like those were like the old chiefs. They came all
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: the way from the Catholic Church.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Really? Like the OGs you're saying? Yeah. Did the Amish
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: have to fight to establish themselves in America?
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: That I'm not actually very sure. But I know like
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: when back, I think it was back in the 70s,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I think that they had to fight like court and stuff.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I think they went through a lot of like court stuff.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: But like for that stuff, I think they did. But
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: also like the government also agreed because this is like
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: a free country and stuff.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: While not armed struggles, the Amish sometimes face legal and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: social battles, especially regarding education and their right to practice
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: their faith freely. Notably, in the 20th century, they opposed
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: laws that would force their children into public high schools,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: sometimes resulting in imprisonment or property loss for Amish parents. Wow.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: So they've had to fight to maintain their way of life. Yeah.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: So there must be a lot of pride. Is there
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of pride in being Amish?
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: It varies from community to community, but yeah, there is
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: pride in being Amish. We don't believe in being prideful,
• 22:39
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• 22:42
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• 22:46
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• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Amish people have to go to public school or do
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you go to your own school?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: We go to our own school.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Do you have a schoolhouse?
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a schoolhouse. I sent pictures of the
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: schoolhouse to that white building. So the building in the
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: front there, that's where all the horses kept. Now, since
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: there are more kids, we had to build another little
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: shelter for horses. So that was down there.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, for the horses?
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for the horses.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Don't you mean the cheerleaders or something?
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: No, we don't have cheerleaders because that would be like...
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: They barely wear clothes and stuff. It looks like they're
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: in their underwear.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: It's too much. Yeah, I've never loved a basketball game
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: so much that I got in my underwear for it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. That's a bit odd. A bit odd.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: When they go to the beach and stuff, they're just
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: in their underwear.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Some of them get dressed up more for the beach even. Yeah.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they get more dressed down.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. But so you go to school there, you
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: put your horses in the front building? Yep.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Okay. And does everybody have their own horse or sometimes
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: people come in groups?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like one family usually has one horse. And then
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: like we have building, like a building. And then like
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: one through eighth grade is like we all sit in there.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: So that's all in one room and then there's usually
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: one teacher. So one year we actually had like 25
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: kids in like one building. That was like the most
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: we ever had. And it varied from year to year,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: so yeah. Like, we started out with, like, 10, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: then as it went up, 14, 16, 20, and then 25,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and then it kind of came down from there. But, yeah, like, first,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: that's where I went to school, first through eighth grade,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: and everyone's sitting in the same room, and then we
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: have classes, too.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Is it pretty cool?
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: It can be if you make it, but I didn't
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: really like school when I went to school, so.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And when does the school day start?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: So that's usually, if I remember right, it was, like,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: It was 8.30, I think. 8.30, school starts. And then
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: we sing like three, four hymns. And then that usually
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: lasts 15, 20 minutes. And then we start reading, reading classes.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: And then it depends on the teacher. Some like to
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: go from eighth grade down and others like to go
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: from first grade up. So then after that, it's recess,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: like 15 minutes. And then usually arithmetic classes. And then
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: until we would do arithmetic until... Lunch, which is like
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: around 11.30. And school goes out like only for a
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: little bit, for like an hour.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Do you go home for lunch or no?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: No, no. We pack our lunch. We eat at school.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: We sit at our desk and eat. And then usually
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: that takes like around 20 minutes, 15, 20 minutes. And
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: then we go out and play different games. And we
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: play like, what was it? Oh, yeah, we played a
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: game that we call rapid. It's where like the animal rapid.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Rabbit?
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like rapid. And then, so what you do is
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: there's a person in the middle as a.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Ball, like Easter, like that little, like a Easter.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like a, like a bunny. Like, so yeah, we
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: call it Hawasa.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Hawasa?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yep. Hawasa. That's a Amish word for rapids.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Rapids.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: So we used to throw the ball up and it was,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: if someone threw it. So it's kind of like that.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I gotta get better at explaining this, but it's kind
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: of good. So it's kind of like dodgeball. You have
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: two base or two base on each side, and then
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: there's a person in the middle. He's got like a ball.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Sometimes we used to basketball. Sometimes we used to tennis ball.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Tennis ball was like my favorite because you could throw
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: it better and it wouldn't hurt as much if it
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: hit you. Okay. So you're supposed to throw it up
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: five times. And if you throw it up five times
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: and no one runs through to the other base, then
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: you can go on one base and count to basically
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: do a countdown. And then if no one goes off
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: of that base and goes through before you're done, you
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: can just Even though they're on base, you go touch
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: them and, you know, get them out.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, they can actually physically catch them?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we catch them and take them down.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: But would this be a game boys would play with boys?
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Everyone would play. The teacher would even help, too.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, like, it depends on, like, it depends how rough. Like,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: the harder you try to get away, I guess, you
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: accept the roughness. And you run through and try not
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: to get caught. Yeah. You, then someone takes you down
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: on the ground, you crawl, you crawl for the base.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's almost like Vietnam and stuff. I've never
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: been there, but.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: No, but no, we've seen pictures. We all understand exactly
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: what it was like.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Um, that's unbelievable, dude. So that, so that was a
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: popular game. Rappa? Rapid. Rapid.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Like the, like the Easter bunny.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Rapid.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And then what did girls do? Do they play this
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: game or what did girls who were definitely girls play? Like,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: some girls played this game, but what did, like, the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: real girls do?
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: The real girls always, like, we always were together. Like,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: we always helped each other play.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, everybody played the same stuff?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But, like, when it was, like, a rainy day
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: or something, like, sometimes we played board games. And then,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: not as much, but most times, like, we all played
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: with each other. Because we didn't know stuff yet.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Because we don't get taught that stuff in school or anything.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Like, what do you mean?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Like, about girls and... We don't really know too much
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: about each other, I guess.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, so everybody's just kind of like just all the same.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all kids.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're all kids, yeah.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Are you allowed to flirt at school? Like, at some point,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: do people feel some attraction? Like, do you think, like... Maybe, maybe, but.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: So, the school I went to, I couldn't really do
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: that because pretty much everyone I went to school with
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: was either the first or second cousin.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, I feel that, brother.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, yeah, it's like... It's a tough world.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: It is, brother. And, you know, that's why we got
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: to do some of this redistricting and rezoning.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to like rezone, like move out, move in.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: That's what a lot of Amish have been doing around
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: us and moving out to different communities. I guess it's
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: a good thing then you can, you know, spread the
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: family tree because sometimes the tree becomes a bush. Yeah,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: for sure. They like intertwine with each other.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: The Amish population experiences a strong founder effect, meaning that
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: their gene pool originates from a small number of original settlers.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Most Amish people are distantly related because nearly all Amish
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: in America descended from a small group of about 200
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: to 500 founders who immigrated from Germany and Switzerland in
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the 18th century. The genetic closeness increases the likelihood of
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: certain inherited conditions with some rare genetic disorders much more
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: common among Amish than in the general U.S. population. Do
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you guys have... Oh, this says cousin marriage. Marriages between
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: cousins do occur.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Not first cousin. Second cousin does.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah. For sure, buddy.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: It's not really forward. Like, hey, you can marry your
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: second cousin. But it does happen.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: But if it happens, it happens.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens, it happens.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: You're already close. You might as well be closer.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I don't know how. Because we
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: don't have any family tree and stuff.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: You don't?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: No, but we do have like a big book that,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: that tells us like all Amish communities, like in certain states,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: like who, like basically a dictionary for, for like Amish
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: people and who's related to who. And.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, you have that? Yeah.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: It's basically like Google for Amish when it comes to
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: like finding like, oh yeah, this person's related to this
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: or how old is this person? And it's kind of
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: even got their like addresses and stuff.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, nice. Yeah. It's like a book where you can
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: go look and see who's who and how old.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and how many kids they have and when the
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: kids were born. So that's pretty cool. Oh, yeah, right.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: That's kind of how it is. But it's a little
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: bit different than that.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Because they put like two different names on the front,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: like whoever put it together and stuff.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Because some Amish, they know who's related to everyone. It's
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: almost like they're happy, I guess you could say. Like
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: they're happy? No, they're hoppy.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Hoppy.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Like it's their... Oh, it's their hobby. Like H-O-B-B-Y.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Like rap it. No. Hobby.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like hoppy.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Like it's something they like to do in their spare time.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what it is.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Genealogy, put it together.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, somebody's got to know who's related or you've
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: got to be able to ask somebody. So could there
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: be people in your school that are your cousin and
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: you don't even know it?
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Ah, no, because everyone in the school, like, they drive
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: there with a horse and bucky, so it's fairly close
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: because we have, like, let me think. I think it's, like,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: at least a half a dozen schools in our, like, community.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. And how do you decide which school you
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: go to?
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Whichever you live closest to.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: That's it?
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Do they have, like, learn, like, they were talking about, like,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: obviously when cousins get together, things can get crazy.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: And you might get one of the Lord's remixes out there.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Or disabled, they call out here in America. Mentally disabled. Autism, Amish-tism,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys are seeing it. Somebody will just
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: raise a barn with their eyes, you know, just put
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: a nail through a 4x4 with their sheer, you know,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: with just a blink of an eye.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we have autism, but we have
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: something with Down syndrome. Yeah, because my great-uncle... He has
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Down syndrome and stuff. Fuck yeah. Yeah, he's like 57
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: years old.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: And he's awesome, huh?
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty awesome. Because me and him, I just
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: remember that I carried wood with him. Like me and
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: him carried wood into the wood box for a stove.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: And I don't know why, but apparently I used to
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: tease him a little bit too. I kind of feel
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: bad for him now. I think I was like six
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: or seven years old. I was really young.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's okay. You were just a kid, man. You
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: were just joking around. Yeah.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Because I thought I was having fun.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: But he could carry a lot of wood?
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, he could carry a lot of wood. He
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: was pretty cool.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: And he passed away?
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: No, he hasn't passed away yet, but I heard recently
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: he's not doing too good anymore. But he's still surviving
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: and stuff. But isn't that kind of old for a
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: person with Down syndrome and stuff?
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: That's a great question, actually, Timothy. Let me look at
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: that up. How old do the Down syndrome get, if
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: you don't mind pulling it up there?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It might be like because he's Amish that he's like.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: That he's clocking more time.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Because it's probably harder, probably a Down syndrome being out
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: under the bright lights of regular life than it is
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: out there just slurping in the moonlight.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: The average life expectancy for individuals with Down syndrome is
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: now about 60 years. Wow. With many living into their
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: 60s and 70s thanks to advances in medical care and
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: social inclusion. That's awesome, dude.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: McDonald's was not getting to them anymore.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: At McDonald's, huh?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: It was really hampering them. Well, there was a time
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: when McDonald's, a lot of their employees had Down syndrome.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Bring that up. And then, so it caused a lot
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: of people to take people there with Down syndrome. So
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: then they were eating all this McDonald's and it was
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: like not good for them.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: No, it was like backing them up.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But McDonald's was hiring a hell of down. Wow.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: They had the whole....
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I never knew a place like that hired.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Especially now. Now there's coffee shops in America,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: and everybody that works there has Down syndrome. Shane Gillis
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: owns one. He's a comedian. Wow.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I heard Shane Gillis was around the Amish, too,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: when he was younger.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Yep. He grew up around the Amish. He's famous. Some
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: people said he has Down syndrome. Some people said he doesn't.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. We had a guy on who completed
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: the Ironman, which was one of the biggest physical challenges
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: in the world, and he has Down syndrome. Chris Nikich. Oh.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Bring him up.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: What's an Ironman?
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: It's like the toughest... competition ever.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: There he is right there.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: What are the conditions of an Ironman, just so we're
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: clear on it? It's one of a series of long-distance
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: triathlon races organized by the World Triathlon Corporation consisting of
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: a 2.4-mile swim, 112-mile bicycle ride, and 26-mile run completed
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: in that order.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Think you could do it?
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: No, I'd have to... I have to, like, build three
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: barns in a day and, like, run up and down
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: to the house a couple times.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, you'd have to jack and jill a million gallons
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: of water, dude. Yeah. Even if I had Down Syndrome,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think I could do it. No.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: It'd be really hard to do. Like, even though, like,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I think it'd be hard for the Amish people because
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: first we need to learn how to bike.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because we can swim because, like, the rivers and stuff.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Are you allowed to have bikes or no?
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Like, we can sneak them.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, you sneak them, huh?
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but, like, the Amish over in, like, Indiana and
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Ohio and in Pennsylvania, they got, like, scooters and stuff.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Uh-uh.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. But they got, like, the lowriders, like,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: the ones that are, like, really close to the ground.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, the Amish.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Amish. Yeah, that you, like, stand on and stuff.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Not the ones that you, like, sit on.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, like those. So
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: not the motorized ones.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: No, not the motorized or the ones with, like, pedals
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: and stuff.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had one Amish dude oral farming on one
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: of these, I think.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, like, was he doing it on the... On the
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: horse or, like, the scooter?
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I think the scooter. Oh. And they have a lot
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: of Mexican Amish, too, now. The Amish, they call them.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw, like, there were a couple, like, Mexican Amish.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I was like... Because I read, like, a couple years ago,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: there was this Mexican Amish guy. He popped up. Like,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: he looked fully Mexican. He looked like he came from Mexico.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: And I think someone must have adopted him. It sounded
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: like that. And, like, he could speak, like... Like, he
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: could speak, like, the Mexican language. Mm-hmm. And then... He
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: also speaks like Pennsylvania Dutch too.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I love that, man. Yeah, dude. And that must be
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the craziest if you're Mexican because then you're like, holy shit,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I still have to do all this construction myself, you know?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Like if you're Amish Mexican, people expect you to build
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: stuff faster than anybody.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because Mexicans and Amish, we go back and forth.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Like we look who can build the fastest.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: If you have both. Yeah.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Now when it comes to sheet rocking, I have to
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: say Mexicans are definitely faster because they got them long like,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Like those metal things, I think they're called stilts. Oh, really?
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: So they're good at sheet rocking?
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw a video of them. They held their
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: tape measure and then walked over. And the one guy,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: real tall looking guy, if he had long legs, he
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: was on stilts and stuff. He almost touched the ceiling.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Tell me about this. When you go to Rumspringer, how
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: do you go? Is there a day that you go?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: What happens? You hit what age and how does it start?
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: It's kind of just, it's kind of spontaneous when it happens.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: You're like roughly roughly 16 and a half when it
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: happens and your parents are like you can go and
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: then you kind of just go.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Do they sit you down at dinner and tell you?
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Is it like an announcement at school? Is it at church?
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: How does it happen that they say we're going to
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: allow you to go to Rumspringer?
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: It's not really an announcement. It's just kind of like, hey,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: you can go there and then you probably have a
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: couple rules. Don't do this, don't do that, but you're
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: probably going to do it anyway.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Really? Yeah. And so is there a moment that an
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: actual day that you leave, like, do you say goodbye? Oh, no, no.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: So when Rome Springer happens and you go to the Yuma, like,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: you still live at home and stuff. You're still Amish.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: And then you just do stuff on the weekends that
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: you're not supposed to.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: When do you go back to your Amish country, though? Like,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: when do you go back to your district, to your home?
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: So when you're in Rome Springer, you're always at home.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: So what happens if you're in Rome Springer for, like,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: It's usually around four to five years. It always depends.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: And then when you get baptized, it's usually when you
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: have a girlfriend and then you want to get married.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: So that's the reason you get baptized is to get married.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: And then at the same time, you're also becoming a
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: member of the church.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you hit about 16 or something.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: And your parents say that you can go now.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: And that means on the weekend, you can go do
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: what you want?
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of. And if they don't hear too much
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: about it, you're fine.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Then you're doing fine.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because sometimes you can be like, hey, you can't
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: go this time.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. And now do some people choose to stay
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: out in Rome Spring and not come back to the church?
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Do you have that option or that's not an option?
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where like people like leave and become ex-Sammish, yeah.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: And that can happen?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then when like Rome Spring ends, it's roughly
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: around 20 to 21. That's usually when people get married.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Or sometimes, you know, like all of a sudden they
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: realize they have a kid. And then, so that's not really...
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Not really a good idea, like, to have a kid
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: before you're married. So, like, they either get quickly married or, like,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: my cousin, like, his, my cousin Frank, like, he.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: He was Amish?
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: No, like, he, like, his parents, like, they realized they
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: had him when they were still, like, on Rumspring and Amish,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: so they just left.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: So your cousin, his parents were both on Rumspring. Yep.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Both Amish. Yep. One of them got pregnant, the woman.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: The woman, yeah.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: And then they realized at that point that they had
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: to leave. Would they have been welcomed back into the
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: church or no?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: So what happens if that happens, you leave or you
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: almost become married right away because that has happened before.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: A couple times. That actually happened for my parents. They
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: had to quickly get married.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you have to make that quick choice. Yeah. Now,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: if you decide to leave, are you shunned? Are you
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: allowed to come back? What is it like? Once you
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: decide to leave.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: So if you leave and you're already a member of
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: the church, you'll get shunned from it. And then if
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: you're not a member, like on Rome Spring, if you leave,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: it varies on the parents a lot. Like on my
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: dad's side, they wouldn't really, for the longest time, they
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: wouldn't really be happy or wouldn't really talk to their
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: kids when they came and visit. They once had an ex-Amish.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: On my mom's side, they were like that for a
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: little bit too, like in the first. But on my
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: mom's side now, when the ex-Amish kids come back, they're
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: like now 40 and stuff, 30, 40, and maybe even older.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Like they come back, they're welcome, like all that stuff.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: But on my dad's side, they're still a little bit iffy,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: but they're way better than they were.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I see, so they're coming around a little bit more
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: than they used to. Yeah. But probably in your grandfather's generation,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: if somebody was shunned, they might not talk to them?
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's how it is. When you get shunned, you're
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: not supposed to, well, you can talk to them, but
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: you're not supposed to help them out in any way.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: You can't accept money from them, and you're not supposed
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: to get a ride from them, too.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: A ride?
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Let's say they were driving, the ones that left, they
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: were driving and stuff, you're not supposed to ride with them.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. If they can't even stay on the path
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: to heaven, how are they going to keep you on
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: a path when they're trying to take you somewhere?
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're going to like take you off the road
• 43:00
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• 43:02
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  Speaker 1: going to have a little sip of Celsius because I
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: need to pick me up. Have you ever had this before?
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: No, not this.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: No.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Is it good?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: It's great. I thought it's great, so it's really good.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have to try this stuff.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Can you have a little bit?
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: No alcohol.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: No alcohol. Okay. So what does it have? It's like water?
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Ooh, mine's cherry cola flavored. It's like spicy stuff. It's
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: like a little bit of ADD kind of.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, this stuff actually tastes like the grapes that
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: you squeeze out of the, like, not the grapes that
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: you eat from the store, but like the Amish grapes
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: that you can buy. Like the ones that you squeeze
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: out of the, what do you call that? The skin?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Have you ever had those grapes where you just squeeze
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: them out and you swallow them?
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Uh-uh.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it tastes just like this.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Let's get a look at those Amish purple grapes.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're, yeah, that's how they look. And those, you
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: know how the stores, like, they have no seeds in them?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Like these have like a seed in them. You just
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: squeeze them out and then you swallow them. Because if
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: you try to eat them, like chew on them, like
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: you just bite into the seed and stuff.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, you just squeeze them out and swallow them.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: This actually tastes exactly like that. So it must be
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: very natural.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir. It's the best, man.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: It's very good.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: That'll get you home, brother. That'll get you home.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw that this does have caffeine in it.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it has a little bit of caffeine.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: So I'll be like moving around.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll be feeling something. Yeah. What has your Rumspringer
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: experience been like?
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: It's been crazy. I've done, like, the first, like, year
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: and a half. Well, I didn't do too much because
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I wasn't 18 yet. But, like, this summer, I've done
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: so many crazy things. Actually, last summer, I got to drive, like,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: a Corvette. That was crazy. Like, these two girls, like,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: they let me drive their Corvette. It was a lot
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: of fun.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Where'd you meet them? I.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Through my uncle, my ex-Amish uncle Simon. I met him
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: through them.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: And, dude, I actually was at their wedding, like, the
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: one with the black hair. I was at their, like,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: her and her husband's wedding. It was pretty cool.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: And, yeah, so I got to drive a Corvette. That
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: thing was really fast, too. Like, you stamp on the
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: pedal a little bit. It was like a horse with, like,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: some special oats or something.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Like, put some Celsius in their water.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That thing has been eating up. yeah diesel
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: dipped carrots right there homie that horse has got it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah they were like they were like well i
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: think it was overcrowded because there's only like two seats
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: and then and then the she's like sitting in the
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: middle and stuff.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Hey that's fine though dude you gotta have at least
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: a one chick hanging out of a corvette dude yeah
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: that's rumspringer.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah that is rumspringer and then we we we uh
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: They wanted to get a couple videos because they thought
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: it was pretty cool.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's amazing, bro. It's great to see you out
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: there just trying some different things.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: What other things did you try that you found that
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: you liked and didn't like out there?
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: What was it? Oh, yeah. I also got the other
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: weekend I went to like Eau Claire, Wisconsin. That was
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: like an air show where they had like the Blue
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Angel airplanes, had all kinds of airplanes. Nice. And then
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: they also like you had to pay a little bit. Well,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: it was actually quite a bit. It was like $ 200. for, like,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: one helicopter ride, and I was, like, you know, this
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: might be, like, a week or two of wait, just, like,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: of me working, but, like, I want to go on
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: a helicopter ride, so I was kind of scared to, like,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: hold my phone out, because, because, like, the helicopter's open
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: and stuff, like, what happens if you drop it and stuff,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: but it's really smooth, too, and when we took off, like,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: we took off and stuff, it was, like, it was
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: really crazy, it felt like we were, like, I felt
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: like I was on a like on a piece of plywood,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: and I just started going up. It was like, it
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: was crazy. And it felt really crazy. That's actually Atlee
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: right there. Oh, nice, brother. He's still Amish at home.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: He busts his, like, cut his hair and stuff. Wow,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: that's exceptional, bro. You got out there. You just felt
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: like a bird, huh? I did feel like a bird.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: And this guy, I think he gave a little bit
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: of a longer ride because we're Amish and stuff. And he,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: we like went sideways on the, we went sideways on the,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: like on the, above the lake and stuff. Cause like
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: the hit water really far off. It's like, it's pretty
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: much like concrete. I think that we went sideways and
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: almost felt like I was falling off, but I had
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: my trusty seatbelt on and stuff. So we were, we
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: were pretty good. So that was, that was a crazy ride,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: but it was actually kind of smooth. You know, uh,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I was actually more scared when I was like a
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks later, I was like, I'm probably like
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: a month later. It was right after I went to
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: your concert. Your concert was like really crazy.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, did you have fun? Could you understand a lot
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: of the material?
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Like some of it I didn't understand. Like the ball
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: guy was there. The guy that his parents are like
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: from the Middle East was there. They were pretty cool.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: And then you came out and then I thought it
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: was really funny. This was actually, you know, before the
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: show I was jamming out. I was with my cousin
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Frank and he was like, we were, I was just
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: jamming out through the music.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because people don't understand, this is where we met.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: We met after a show.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: And I was like, dude, we've been trying to have
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: an Amish person on, and then here God just put
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: us right together, brother.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, God is great. He works in mysterious ways, it
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: seems like.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: He's the magician, man.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought, you know, Theo Vaughn would probably
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I wanted to give you, like, wear an Amish hat.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Did you give me that hat or not?
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: No, it was my hat. It didn't really fit. Actually,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I have a little bit of a surprise for you. Hey, Frank,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: you want to bring that over? Dude, I got... So,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: what I did over the last week, me and your...
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Me and some of your strong connections were talking.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: And I....
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: They didn't quite know what size your hat was. It's
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: a bit of an odd thing to know and stuff.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an odd thing to ask a man.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. But we got an estimate size, and
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: I wanted to give you this hat. So now you
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: can be part of the Amish mafia.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool, dude.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And a hat size, that's just
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: like the waist for your head, you know?
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: You don't want to admit you're a little fat above
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: the ears, you know?
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: This has a band in it. Was this the front
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: of the bag?
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: That's the front, yeah.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: So that way you always wear the hat right. Does
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: it fit? Oh, it's a bit loose. Is it a
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: bit loose?
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Perfect.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Dude, perfect. I'm glad I got you the right size.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Danke.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Du bist welkom. That means you're welcome.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Does danke mean thank you?
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: No, dengue. Dengue. Yeah, it's the same thing in German. Like,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: thank you in German and Pennsylvania Dutch is the same thing.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Dengue. Yeah. Heck yeah, dude.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're part Amish. You just need the rest
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: of the clothes.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: I feel great, man. Do you think I would make
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: a good Amish person or not? Be honest with me.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Do you break a lot of rules and stuff?
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, really. I don't think so.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. If you don't really break any of the rules,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: you make a pretty good Amish. I could get my
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: mom to get you some Amish clothes for you.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe for Christmas I'll exchange something with you and I
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: could send you something that your community would accept as well.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Are you allowed to accept gifts from people that are
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: not Amish?
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I accept gifts from people that are not Amish.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Do your parents allow you to? Is that okay? Yep.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: They, cause they sometimes like, we all, we had sometimes
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: a guy from around Christmas time. Sometimes a guy like
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: brings some stuff and then we like, he's done it
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: for a couple of years and he like gifts all
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: the younger kids, some presents and stuff.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's nice.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's very nice.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know you had mentioned before that your parents
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: said is some stuff not to do during Rome spring.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Like what was some of that?
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Uh, they didn't, they didn't really say too much, but,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: They tell me, like, when I do something that they
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: didn't think was, how do I say this? Like, probably
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: not the best thing to do.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Like, appropriate?
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, probably, like, because sometimes I do wild stuff,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: you know, like, going to Walmart, riding a scooter.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Because that came around, and.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, do they have advice against, like, sex, drugs,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: things like that?
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: No, not, like, any sex stuff. That doesn't get talked about.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: You just kind of. You kind of have to do
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: like Dora the Explorer. You just kind of have to
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: go out on the jungle and see what bites.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: So yeah, we went to Walmart.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, something will bite at Walmart, dude.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: I was looking at the TVs. They're like $ 1, 000.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: That's like a third of a buckie. And a TV
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't even go anywhere. It just like sits somewhere.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I'd rather just play charades with my buddy like you
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: guys probably do a lot. Y'all play charades a lot?
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not even quite sure what that is.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's where someone, like, you write down some movies
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: or TV. Oh, shoot, you don't know a lot of
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: movies and TV shows. Charades is, like, somebody acts something out,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: and you have to guess what they're acting out. Like,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: they impersonate something.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, you, like, pretend. So, like, let's say I was
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: pretending to be the bishop. I'd be, like, go down here. Yeah.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: big angry look.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe scratching your beard maybe going like this or something.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Like this yeah yeah yeah like something like that no
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: i've never i've never played that but uh i kind
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: of know what you mean yeah yeah.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Um but you guys don't talk about sex within the
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: amish community much like at school and stuff there's not
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: a class.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: That teaches you about it not in school no so
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: like will a.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Dad kind of take his son and have like a
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: birds and the bees talk like in in.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Hola hola hola hola.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: It's kind of the birds and the bees, like the
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: dad will take you and talk to you about how
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: things work, you know?
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no. Like, all of that stuff, you actually
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: have to, like, figure out and stuff.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: But, like, since you got phones and stuff, you can
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: kind of, you know, you can figure it out.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: But there's some stuff, I mean, but you're not allowed
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: to look at pornography on your phone and stuff.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: No, you're not supposed to, no.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: No, I stay away from that stuff.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bad.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: It is very bad.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Um, since you got into rum freeing, can you get
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: a girlfriend and stuff like that? Or like, what are
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: you allowed to do?
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can get like a girlfriend, like all that stuff.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: But does she need to be Amish?
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Preferably. Yeah. But like, if I were to get a, uh,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: like a girlfriend that was not Amish, she would either
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: have to become Amish or I would have to like
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: leave like the Amish.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Do you think that there are a lot of women
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: out there who are willing to become Amish? Does that
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: happen a lot?
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Uh, I know, I know of one case where that
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: is happening and. I don't know how often it happens,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: but it's rare where it actually goes through. I know
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of people want to become Amish, but they're
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: not ready to make the final step towards it.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: What's the thing that keeps them away from that, makes
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: people afraid to take that final step, do you think?
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: I think it's the loss of your phone, the lights
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: on the ceiling, the fans on the ceiling, the vents
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: and holes in the ceiling. Like all that stuff, I think.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: And then like the couch, the TV, and then whatever else,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: you know, like whatever else hohile use.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: If you have an Amish wife, does a wife have
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: to provide like food and sexuals and stuff for the husband?
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Or is it just, is it always negotiable? Or does
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: the wife have like a responsibility for kind of food
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and sexuals and stuff? Yeah.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: So the way like it's everyone kind of accepts like
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: they're like, it's just how do I say this? It's
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: like normal. And you like, it's where it's kind of like,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: it's where it's everyone has a mutual understanding of like
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: what they have to do. Right. Cause like the woman,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: you know, cooks, cleans, you know, takes care of things
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: around the house. And then like, if she needs help,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: she'll ask like the husband, uh, for like help. And
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: then usually the husband's, you know, gone most of the
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: day working, like either building houses, plowing the fields or
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: cutting like lumber or making cabinets. or even polishing cabinets,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. Like they help each other when they're,
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: when they're like at, like at home, like if, if
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: it needs, but yeah, like the, like the wife does cooking, cleaning,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: taking care of the kids.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: And then stuff in the garden too.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Right here it says Amish women mainly focus on housekeeping,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: child rearing, gardening, and food preparation. Many manage home finances,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: have their names on property deeds, and control the family checkbook. Um,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: women nurture the spiritual life of the children and are
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: active in maintaining Amish cultural practices.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: So women have a pretty strong voice in the Amish community. Yeah.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I'd say so, yeah.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Are Amish women good cooks? Like, do they make some
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: cool stuff? Or what are some good Amish meals? Oh, yeah.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: The Amish make, I'd say, make some of the best food, like,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: especially grandma. She had a lot of experience in the
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: field stuff. Or it's how you mean, like, She has
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of experience in, like, the field of cooking
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: and stuff. Like, her breadsticks, they're, like, out of this world.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Are they?
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: They're really good. And then my mom's... What do you
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: put on them? Ah, I'm not even quite sure.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Can you put butter on them or not?
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, butter. Yeah, it looks exactly like that.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: And can you put a little bit of salt on them?
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Do you have salt?
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Ah, no, we don't put salt on them. They're, like,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: they're garlic breadsticks.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, so you already have garlic on them.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're just, they're really good. And my favorite meal, like,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: let's say we're doing a lot of stuff, like building
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: something or like a frolic where like the whole community
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: comes together.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: A frolic it's called?
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like when the whole community comes together and
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: built something like a barn.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like they'll make either some chicken or
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: some burgers with mashed potatoes, corn, and like I think
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: you would call like, it's like a, mac and cheese
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: oh yeah and then you put some so what we
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: do with our food's like hot we put some applesauce
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: on it mix it up really yeah and then it's
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: nice cool and then pork and.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Beans the food's hot you'll put applesauce on.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: It yeah to like cool it down and stuff it's
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: like that's like one of my favorite meals and then
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: even better like if you have steak and stuff like
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: if you have steak that's really good.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah and do you have dessert too oh.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: We have we have pretty good dessert too like Like pies.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, I bet Amish pie is good.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they are.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Do you have sugar or don't you?
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they put sugar in them. I'm not sure what
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: they all put in them because I know how to
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: make scrambled eggs and that's about it.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Same.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And yeah, they put, what is it?
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: What's a popular pie that you have or a popular dessert?
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: A popular pie is a shoofly pie is one of them.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: And then peanut butter pie. Shoofly pie, what is it?
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: That, I've not had it. We don't have it very often,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: but another pie that's really good is mince pie, like
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: pumpkin pie. That's really good. Like apple pie. That's really good, too.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good one. I want that.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Like that stuff is pretty good. Yeah, that's my crust.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Right there oh really i've seen this woman before she's
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: amish yeah no she's ex-amish oh she's ex-amish she used
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: to be amish yeah so she's my she's my cousin
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: actually oh wow yeah so i got i guess famous
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: cousins too What are the fears of having a girlfriend
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: that's not Amish? Just that they won't understand the religion
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: and the culture?
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Like, the biggest fear would be that the church or
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: the parents would find out. That's definitely the biggest fear.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: But is it okay if she decides to join the church?
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: It's okay?
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is okay. But for that to happen, that
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: rarely ever happens. It's almost as rare as the bishop
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: leaving the community.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Got it. Would she be welcome if that happened?
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if she was fully Amish, yeah, she would be welcome. Now,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: She might get a little bit of looks in the beginning, but, yeah,
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: as long as she's fully Amish, that would be good.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Dude, she deserves the looks probably. Yeah. You know what
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? You can handle a little bit of looks
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: out of the gate. Can Amish people tickle each other
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: or not? Is that allowed or not?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like when we were little kids, we used to
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: tickle each other.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but, like, I don't really tickle anyone. Yeah.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think people should keep doing it,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: but I'm just making sure it's allowed when you're kids. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: And do they play hide and go seek? Like what
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff do people do to pass the time?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Like either ride horses, the ponies, like pony cars, and
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: then also hide and seek. That's pretty fun. And then,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, we play board games or just play with cars,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: play with blocks. I used to play like underneath the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: porch or in the garden. We used to have a
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: lot of like cars and stuff. And I used to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: like pretend that was like a whole world there In
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: the garden. So mom didn't really like when I played
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: in the garden when it was like all the corn
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: was up, the potatoes. Like I actually liked playing when
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: it was corn. Corn was up and then the potatoes
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: because it was like there was way more possibilities for imagination.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: You're going to have a place here, a place there.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just more creativity going on.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it was the garden didn't work out
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: or either that or just play under the porch. Like
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: the porch was like Oh, yeah. Like three feet high.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: So the older I got, the more I hit my head.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Up on the porch. That's when it's time to get out. Yeah.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: That's when I decided, you know, if I do play,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: like when I do play with cars and stuff and
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: out in the dirt, like the garden's the place to be.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And do people start dating within
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: the Amish culture at a certain age or is it
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: kind of taboo or how does it work? Like is
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: there a dance like at school where you can invite
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: a girl to a dance? Like how does dating and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: that sort of like adolescent– attraction kind of stuff like
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: that where you trying to get, you know, you trying to, uh,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: you know, meet a girl or if you have a
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: first kiss, what's that? How's that whole universe in the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Amish culture?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: So like our school only goes until eighth grade. So
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: we're out of school in like 13 or 14. You're
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: done with school completely.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Completely done. And then you go to work.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Dang. Yeah.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: So we didn't, we didn't, I don't even know what
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: high school is or public school or like, I've never
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: been there. Never, ever. I want to go one day.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Like high school is just doing drugs. And try not
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: to die of driving while intoxicated. Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Like, if that never happens for us, like, our horse
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: will just take us home.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. That's a Tesla. You basically have an original,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: you kind of have, like, one of those self-driving cars.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you fall asleep on your horse, you know,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: it might not be the safest way, you know, because
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: you might, you know, go a little bit over on
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: the road. But as long as the people with, like,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: steering wheels and stuff, they'll be, as long as they're, like,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: okay and stuff, the horse will, like, go home and, like, So,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: the way it works for, like, dating, if you're, like,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: what is it? So, like, 16 and a half, like, some,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: it depends on the parents. Like, my mom and dad, like,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: they weren't really allowed to, like, become, like, date, like,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: official boyfriend, girlfriend until, like, until they were 18.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: But, like, in our community, like, right now, like, like,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: it basically happens whenever now. Like, as soon as you join, like,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: the room springer, like, you can, and Usually the way
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: you meet and hang out is through sing-ins after church
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: or at weekend parties. That's usually how it is.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: So weekend parties, do those happen in your district or
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: those happen off of property?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: It varies where the Amish party is. Sometimes it happens
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: when the parents aren't home. We go to their place
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: and party there.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: So at Amish parties, are people drinking and stuff like that?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit more like freewheeling?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like drinking and then like even like the vape
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: things popped up too.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Do Amish like to vape or not?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Some do, yeah.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew it.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some do.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I knew it too.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: But also like cigarettes and then sometimes we go like.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: A pipe too. A lot of Amish look like they
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: would smoke a pipe.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: The older ones too, but like the ones that are,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: the younger ones usually don't. They usually stick to cigarettes
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But sometimes like we'll go to
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: like an ex-Amish person's house and party up there and
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: it's it's a lot of fun.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: It is and when do you if you if you're
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: doing rumspring when do you have to be back at
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: home like do you leave on friday you have to
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: be back on sunday night or what is the rules
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: kind of.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Now it depends it varies from family to family let's
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: say you have church tomorrow you probably want to be
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: home like you know before the morning so you get
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: a little bit of sleep or there's not not church
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: you can come home or you can't just it just
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: like depends but usually like when i when i do
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: it i usually don't come home until like later sunday
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: okay Yeah.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: And do they drug test you or whatever if you're Amish?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Do you have to get drug tested?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: No, no, we don't have to do any, like, drug tests.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, no tests and stuff.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Damn. Because y'all got y'all's own year-long Halloween going on
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: out there in the fields. I'm like.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, sometimes, like, sometimes in the woods, the fields, like,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: just depends where the spot is.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but now, like, all Amish that, like, party and stuff, like,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: our number one way of, like, talking to each other is.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Through, like, Snapchat. They've really taken over Snapchat?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, if you... If they've been Amish, like a
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: young Amish person that is roughly my age, if they
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: have a phone, like a smartphone, they have Snapchat.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So when was the first time you saw a
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: phone or a screen? Do you remember?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Uh, I think it was one time. It was not
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: the first time, but I remember this one time when
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: one of my ex Amish uncles was at our place
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: with his girlfriend and, and she let me look like,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: look on her phone. And I was like sitting right
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: beside her and she, she grabbed out her phone. She
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: like started texting someone. And she was flying through, like,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: the keyboard and stuff. You were, like, swiping the lines,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden words popped up. Like, it was, like,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: it was, like, bop, bop, bop, bop, the words, like,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: almost as fast as you can, like, talk and stuff.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: I was, like, really surprised. So that's, like, that's, like, the, like,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: I'd say, like, the first, some of the first memories
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: of seeing a phone.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: What things are forbidden in you guys' culture, kind of?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: A lot of things are, like, electricity, electricity. like, having
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: a smartphone, we're allowed to have, like, phones for, like,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: our businesses, like, phone shacks and stuff, and then TVs,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: what else, like, pretty much anything that, like, doesn't have, like,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: that requires, like, electricity and stuff, and also, like, certain,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: certain color of, like, shirts, dresses, if it's too bright,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: it can also be, like, like, The bishop or deacon
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: will talk to you about it.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: About it being the wrong color.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Too flashy.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Too flashy, yeah. And also if your haircut's way short.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: So my haircut's okay because my mom gives me a
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: haircut every time. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I've never actually
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: had a different kind of haircut.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, beautiful.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I almost have a mullet. You're going to
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: probably have an Amish haircut too.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I think I have a little bit.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: You just like the hair in front of the ear, girl.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: No. I could have been Amish.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Block a little bit of the sound to the ear
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: and stuff. Yeah.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: I would have enjoyed being Amish, I think, man. Yeah.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: How are regular people and Amish people different from each other,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: have you gathered? How do they seem different from each other?
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: So, like, the main thing I've noticed is, like, a
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: lot of Amish are, when they're in public, it seems
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: like they're a bit more respectful, I guess. Another thing
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: that's big, I guess, is So if we did something
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: that was big and wrong, like one time my little brother,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: he stomped lots of corn down in our cornfield, and
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: he got a spanking from that. I guess that's the
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: difference because I see a lot of kids don't, I
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: guess they don't get spankings anymore.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't do it anymore.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: They should. I mean, I don't think kids should get abused,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: but spanking is okay, I think.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because this is like getting beat up because, like,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: Because we never got, like, beat up or anything. But, like,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: if we did something bad, we got, like, three cracks.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: It was like a bell or something. But we never
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: got abused and stuff. So, like, just, I guess, discipline.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: So discipline is something that seems stronger in the Amish community?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: What are some crimes that they have? Are there any
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: crimes that are popular in Amish land?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure. Maybe, like, taxes sometimes. Because I don't...
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Some people don't, like, file taxes and stuff.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Like, because.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: only tax that we get like that are we free
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: from that damage don't get taxed it's like Social Security
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: tax so when we get old the government doesn't like
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: pay us and stuff.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Oh they don't see you don't have to pay into
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: that no wow I wonder why not.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: When you join the church you you get like the
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: bishop and the government I guess work together mmm to
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: where you're like exempt from the Social Security tax but
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: that's like the only tax that I know of that
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: you're like exempt from other than that like if but
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: if you don't file taxes because I know some don't
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: but other than that we have to pay all the
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: other taxes.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: The Amish are exempt from social security and medicare taxes
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: FICA if they formally reject benefits and file for exemption
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: due to their belief in mutual community support Wow, so
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: you guys feel like you don't need that. You support
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: each other, huh?
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Amish don't have insurance for stuff, too. Well,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: hell no.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think you could insure them, you know?
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: I think for businesses, they somehow do what I think.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: But let's say you fall off a roof or something,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: you hurt yourself, and then let's say you go to
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: a hospital, because I know the hospital, they charge quite
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: a bit.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know where they come up with the crazy numbers.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: They'll take you through the rumspringa.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: They will. They'll drag you through it. They'll drag you, dude. Yeah,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: it's like dragging behind the buggy.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Or like a horse runs away and you're trying to
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: hang on. You're like scraping across the gravel and stuff.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but like all the community helps pay for that,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: like if that would help.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I got it. So there's a lot of community support
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: at any point in somebody's life. So you guys might
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: have a day where you're like, Mr. So-and-so needs help
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: or Ms. So-and-so needs help. Let's go help them. Yep.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: That's how it works.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: That's a big part of your life.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Like for example, what are things you would go help
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: a neighbor do? Uh, like.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Really with anything like putting away hay, we've done that
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: lots of times or like building a barn. Like we've
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: done that too. Or like even a house too. Like
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: if they need help like a day or so, we'll
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: come together and help each other. And I know back
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: in the day, uh, we used to help each other, uh, like,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: like someone does hay and then everyone helps this person
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: do hay, then that person also, like, it's just a
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: group effort. This person, this person, this person, like, all
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: around the community. But that doesn't really happen anymore. Like,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: you know, like, most, what is it? Oh, yeah, most Amish,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: they still farm a little bit, but most of them do, like,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: construction or, like, building cabinets.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's changed. Yeah. So the Amish are farming less
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: than they used to?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because, like, it's not as sustainable anymore.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Because when my dad was growing up, all they do was,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: Farm and milk cows. Like, they milk a lot of cows.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: So, what are some popular products, like you said, like
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: cabinets and stuff? You see a lot of those. You
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: see cabinets. You see furnaces sometimes. Yeah. I don't know
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: if that's a real thing or that's just something that
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: is made up and they claim that Amish do it.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Like, you mean, like, well, the furnaces? Now, I'm not
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: sure quite where those come from. Like, the furnaces, because
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: there's welling to it. Now, they might get it from, like, a.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: If I'm like a person that's not Amish, I'll get
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: them from there.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: The biggest shift in Amish economic life in the last
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: century has been from agriculture to non-farm businesses. In the
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: early 1900s, nearly all Amish families depended on farming for
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: their livelihood. Today, only about 10% do, with the majority
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: now involved in various trades, crafts, retail. And then for, yeah,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: what are some of those? Construction and woodworking, carpentry, cabinet making,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: and now famous Amish furniture shops. That is a big
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: thing now, huh?
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Quilt making, sewing related trades.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like selling Amish food too and quilts and.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: A lot of stuff like that. It's a big part
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: of the culture up there.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: And how will you guys have like places on your
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: property where people come and buy them or do you
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: take them off property and people buy them there?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Usually like if you have a greenhouse or like a
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: place where you can buy like food and stuff. That's
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: usually like a little building on the property, so.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Like a market?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Yep, like kind of like a market. Or like there's
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: a farmer's market where Amish go to like a town
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: for a day and they bring all the baked goods and,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: you know, stuff like that. And there's also a lot
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: of Amish places, like a lot of places where Amish are.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: What's like tours, they offer tours and then they bring
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: them around. And then it's kind of like the Amish mall,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: but it's like the stores are like really far apart
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: from each other, like a couple of miles apart. But, yeah,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: they bring them around and they get to see an
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Amish farm. I think they're called, like, Amish tours and, like, tours,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: stuff like that.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: And then you can, like, stop at the Amish place and, like,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: buy something from, like, the store and stuff.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been up there before and stopped at some
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: places that I think were having cheese and ice cream
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: maybe even.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: But, like, usually we only, like, make ice cream through
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: the winter because you just grab the snow out of
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: the ground and put it in a bucket and.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: Could you make ice cream if you needed to?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like if we had ice or something cold, you
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: put it around the thing where you make ice cream
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: because you've got to crank the ice cream. You crank
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: and then the thing in the middle spins around the ice.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Amish ice cream is pretty good.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: What music do you guys listen to? I know you
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: said in the beginning there's some different, sometimes people will
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: sneak in some Def Leppard, but if not, do you
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: guys just sing a lot? Is there a lot of
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Amish songs and dancing as well or no?
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: In our community, there's not really any dancing. There's... The
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: only music, songs that are really louder would be like
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: chairman hymns. But then sometimes we sneak out on the
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: weekends and stuff.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Listen to some Soulja Boy or something? Yeah.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: What is it? Def Leppard, Bon Jovi. A lot of
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: Amish rock and roll. And then I guess house EDM music.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: And then also a lot of country, like Garth Brooks,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Mark and Wallen, people like that. But I also listen
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: to a little bit of rap stuff. Like Amish Paradise,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty good song.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Amish Paradise?
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: Who sang that?
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Weird Al Yankovic, I did.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, did he? That makes perfect sense. That's groovy.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Amish Paradise, I love that song.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: That's a banger, huh?
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: It is a banger, yeah. He looks a little bit
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: mad there, but it was a pretty good song.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: He probably pissed his horse ran off or whatever.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. Because his horse was pretty good
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: at backing all the way at the end.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: And then also, I like to listen to a little
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: bit of rap stuff too.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Ghana. A little bit of Ghana.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, you listen to some Ghana?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't really listen to what he says. I
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: looked at the lyrics a couple times. The lyrics aren't
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: the best, but I like the way it sounds. Like the.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: It sounds like wind chimes, and then it just sounds
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: very melodic.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: He's a vibe, yeah. He's got it.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: What else was I thinking about? Where else can we
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: go from here? We're almost done. Let me think about
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: what else we can talk about. You know what I'm
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: going to do, Timmy? I'm going to take that down
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: and keep this up here.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to make sure that you're always here
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: in spirit, dude.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: You bet, man. I want to ask you something. With
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: the risk of people leaving the community and stuff, are
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: families still very close or do they only get closer
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: after people join the church? Does that make any sense
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: to you?
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: I think, I think it does. So like most of
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: the time, like the family is very close unless like
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: when the, when the kids and the parents, like, like
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: they don't agree on stuff and then they leave. That's
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: like the, like the time when like they don't, they're
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: not as close anymore. It, it depends on the person,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: I guess, and the parents too. Is it pretty heartbreaking
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: when that happens in the community? Yeah, it is. It's like,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: When I was younger, I was like, when someone left,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: it's almost like someone died. Not quite, but it almost
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: felt like that. But since I got older, I understand
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: it a bit more, and it's not as bad as
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: it used to be. Yeah.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's you right there?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was really skinny when I was younger. I'm
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: still kind of skinny, you know? You look like that
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: guy in Kingpin a little.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: What's that? You've seen Kingpin?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: No idea what that is.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: It's like an Amish movie. It's like a historical Amish
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: film or whatever.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, I almost look like that dude? Yeah.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. When he's younger.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Not now. Oh. When he's younger. But he's a classy guy.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: He's a great guy.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks like a great guy, too.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, Randy Quaid.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: He's got, like, a big beard now.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. He's doing okay. Yeah. I'm a fan of his.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: What have you decided about Rumspringer and what you're going
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: to do with your family and the church and stuff?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Have you made any decisions yet?
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: Like, not yet. Like, the final decision will probably be in, like,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: probably within, like, two years or so. Okay.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: And then it depends if I leave or, you know,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: join the church. Well, right now you actually can't really
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: join the church because, like, there's no bishop. You can
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: join other churches that are, like, a little bit away
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: in a different district. But, like, yeah, it'll probably be, like,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: two years until I, you know, like, make my final
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: decision because it's kind of a big decision.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: What would be the thing you think that would draw
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: you out of the faith, that would draw you out
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: of the church and out of the district?
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: I would think, like, like, if I wanted to do something, like,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: something that would, like, something I'm doing right now, like,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: this podcast, like, something worldly, and, like, they would probably
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: come down on me for, like, doing something, like, that,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: I guess, would drive me away a little bit, because,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it feels a little bit, like, a
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: little bit restrictive, but, like, I guess that's the only
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: thing I would think.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: But you don't feel like doing this podcast will mess
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: up your opportunity to go back or leave, huh?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think it will.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, good. I don't want that to happen, man. I
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: want you to be able to make the best choice
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: for yourself no matter what. It sounds like a really
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: beautiful community, is it?
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very beautiful, I'd say.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: It sounds like you have a lot of community, a
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: lot of sense of togetherness, you know? A lot of, like,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: do you feel a strong sense of purpose being Amish?
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Of uphold the honor. Work hard. The harder you work,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: the better. Because you stay in shape. And then the
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: more you can help out is always better. Because I
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: love helping out people and making people stay. That's one
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: of my favorite things to do. I like doing that.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: So... It's a lot of fun. Yeah, I think it's important,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: you know. I think that's one way we really fill
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: ourselves up is like doing something for somebody else, you know.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: It feels good.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: And you seem like you get to do a lot
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: of that in your community. So there's probably a strong
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: sense of feeling of like doing good.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there is.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: If you guys are helping each other out a lot. Yeah.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Are siblings really close in your community or is that
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: kind of not?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: You mean the siblings?
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, usually like the siblings are usually close, you know.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: Not like we're close, you know, just like brother and brother.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, legally close or whatever.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like legally close. So, usually the brothers and the sisters,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: they're usually keep the, like, the sisters are closer to
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: themselves and the brothers are, like, closer to themselves.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah. For sure.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: Here's my little brother.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's him right there, eh? Yeah.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: Like, he doesn't really, like, he probably wouldn't care if
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: I put his, like, face up on, like, social media
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: and stuff. but I blurted out I put like a
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: thing over his eyes out of respect yeah that's.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Fun though you guys so a lot of times when
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: you're Amish you're just driving around hanging out telling stories
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: and stuff yeah making each other laugh a lot yeah
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: are you allowed.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: To laugh yeah you're allowed to laugh like we laugh
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: like we like drink coffee and laugh and like at
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: work at work we're laughing a lot of time we
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: talk and and because like when you're like I don't
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: know if like if like non-Amish people I don't know
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: what they do like when when they like work do
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: they like talk to each other and laugh and stuff.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they do, I think, a decent amount at a
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: lot of jobs. Yeah. Probably jobs that are more like
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: if you're doing construction, things like that, contracting, things where
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: you're building stuff, working together, where there's team opportunity, there's
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of laughter, dude. But if you're just sitting
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: at a desk by yourself, you're probably just losing your mind.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be kind of sad, like being inside
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: all day and, you know, under the lights and stuff.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I think there's something that's kind of like
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel very human about it.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: Are there a lot of people on antidepressants and stuff
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: that are Amish or no?
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: Not that I know of. There might be, like, maybe everyone, like, here, here,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: and maybe way over there, but not that I know of, no.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: Do people seem depressed a lot or not really?
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: Most of them don't. Most of them don't. But then
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: you also have sometimes, like, people that are, like, what
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: do you call those people that are, like, super depressed? Like,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: sometimes they're, like, super depressed.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, um.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: They're almost like the water when it gets rough. They're, like,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: up and down a lot.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, bipolar kind of?
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bipolar. Like, we sometimes, like, I don't have a
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: person that has sudden, like, it's kind of crazy.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Some studies have found Amish depression rates to be one-fifth
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: to one-tenth of mainstream society with strong family ties and
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: community support cited as protective factors. That's unbelievable.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: One-fifth to one-tenth is insane, brother. That's like... I mean,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: that's a huge difference. Strong family ties, robust social networks,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: work ethic, and especially religious faith are seen as major
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: mental health protective factors. Will you guys pray together a
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: lot just with friends? Like if you see them somewhere,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: is that a common practice?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: No, like we only do it like at the table.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: But like I know some families do like pray more
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: than we do. We should probably do it more. I
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: think that's how we all feel.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you have Valentine's Day?
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. We have Valentine's Day at school. So what
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: happens in Valentine's Day is at school. So when that happens,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: we basically we put like things on a paper and
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: we put into a hat and then we mix it
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: all up. And someone walks around with like and then
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: you reach in and you pick out a name. And
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: if you got that name, then that's your valentine. Like
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: your valentine, you got to like switch lunch pails. And
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: then you also have like send a valentine in with them.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: And can it be a boy or a girl?
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it can be like, like either way.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: Got it. Yeah.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: So it's like nothing. It's like, it's probably way different
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: from like, like from non-Amish and public schools. Cause I'm
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: guessing like, like non-Amish and public schools, it would have
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: to be like a, like a boy and a girl, right?
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But in y'all's culture, it's just whatever.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. And the way we do it, it's like
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: just the main, the reason we do it is, mainly
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: your friends. You give your friends a Valentine and then
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: you also switch like lunch pails and then the moms
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: will usually put something special in there like NX or
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: candy bar or... My mom used to buy like those
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: things from Walmart, those like big red hearts and then
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: send that with to her.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's nice. Moms do that. Yeah. That's a
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: nice thing.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: What other holidays? Do you have Halloween?
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: No, we don't have Halloween but... I've had, before I
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: went to Rome Spring, the neighbors, our non-Amish neighbors, they
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: picked me up and then they put me, like, in
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: a prison costume thing, like, I had black and white
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: stripes all over me and, like, we went out and
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: gathering candy. Like, you just walk up to these people's
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: houses and they have candy for you.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. Halloween's, like, really crazy. But a lot
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: of them, a lot of Amish, like, don't celebrate because, like,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: apparently that's, like, a... the occasion of like Halloween is
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: like something to do with like the devil. I'm not
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: quite sure.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I know what you're talking about. It's a pagan holiday.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, cause they, some people like real scary stuff
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: in the yard. They got like snakes and then these.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: These dead people with like skulls and stuff.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, stuff hanging from trees.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: Deceased adults and children.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're like bone stuff. I don't know where they
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: get the bones. So like dick them up or something.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: It's probably something. They probably have insider trading with some
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: dog or something.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: What is something that you want people to know about
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: Amish people that are a view of them or you
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: think that's something that's incorrect before we get out of here?
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: Like a misconception?
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So like one of the biggest misconceptions I see
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: all the time with like me being online and stuff,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: it's like crazy. Like, all the stuff. Like, people say
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not Amish. I don't do this way. There's actually
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: two misconceptions I can say. Like, number one is, like,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of Amish kids my age have, like, phones. Like,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: they hide it from their parents and stuff. And where it's, like,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: they have some electronics and stuff, but they have to, like,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: keep it on the low and stuff.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: And what would they do, bury it in a field somewhere?
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Would they hide it behind a hog or something?
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hide it in the barn, like the back of
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: the bucky, sometimes in a culvert and hope it doesn't rain. Yeah,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: so that's one thing. A lot of Amish have phones,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: and pretty much every Amish that has a phone that's
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: my age, that's not for business and stuff, they have Snapchat.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: That's how we communicate. That's our new thing. Like messenger pitching.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: It's your underground railroad kind of.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's underground railroad. I was thinking about, you know,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: starting underground Bucky races, but I first got to dig
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: the tunnel and stuff. But like another misconception, you know,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: about Amish is like, what was it?
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: About me not being Amish because I have a phone.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: That's because like another thing that's like huge, like really
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: big because like there's Amish in movies and they're always...
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: They always turn on the butter and basically they're living
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: without electricity. Now there's so many, there's so many different
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: like Amish. Cause like what you hear from me, like
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: from where I came from is will not be the
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: same from an Amish in Indiana or Ohio or like Pennsylvania. It's, it's,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: there's so many different ones, like little different branches of it.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: Lots of different branches. And I, I would, I would
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: say like, there's not a single community that's like exactly
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: the same. There's always little bit of rules. And there's
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: so many different branches of it where they wear a
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: bit different clothes, a bit different hats, do things a
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: bit differently. Because I've had people say, like, this is
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: not Amish. And then they, like, write a detailed description.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: But I guess they probably don't know better that there's, like,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: lots of different ones. Because there's, like, lots. There's species, Schwarzenegger,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: New Order, Old Order. There's so many different branches.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. It sounds like a bunch of people
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: on the Warped Tour.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, so when the Anabaptists became a thing,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: They were like a minority for a little bit.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Back to the Future? No.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: Dang, boy.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: I think you would like it. And I think it's
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: something that is Amish appropriate. I don't think it's too crazy. Okay.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: I think you could handle it. Have you ever seen
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Family Man with Nicolas Cage? No. Do you know who
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: Nicolas Cage is?
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure. Wow.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: So these are like movies and stuff?
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, wow. Family Man's one of my favorites, dude.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: So what's that about?
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: It's about this guy, and he's very, like, rich and
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: fancy and stuff. Yeah. And then one day, he kind of...
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: Something happens where he goes back into... his life like
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: 20 years earlier and he makes a different decision to
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: stay with a girl that he was in love with
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: instead of leaving.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: He goes like back in time.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He goes back in time. Like he doesn't realize
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: that he falls asleep. It's on Christmas. He falls asleep
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve and he wakes up and he's back
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: in a different life. He'd had, he would have had
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: if he had made a different choice to stay in
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: love instead of to go for, um, like, uh, the
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: big job in the fancy apartment.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, he went for the money over people.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: He went for the money over people and he had
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: a choice. And he goes back in time and now
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: suddenly he wakes up and he's in a house with
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: this lady that he was in love with. But now
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: they have like two kids and they like, they don't
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: live in like He was living on like this fancy
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: downtown place with like a butler and somebody that would
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: like chew your gum for you and just tell you
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: what it would taste like. You don't even have to
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: chew it. Wow. That rich.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: That's like super rich.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: It's too much. Yeah. I'll chew my own gum. You
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: I want to chew my own gum, you know, drink
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: my own water.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: Stuff like that.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I want to at least do that.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Let me do at least the low, low hanging fruit. Yeah.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: But anyway, um, so then he gets that experience and
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: then one day he wakes back up and he's back
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: in his original life. and he hates it and so
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: he drives off from his original life to go find
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: the girl and see what's going on and then you
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: figure out what happens from there.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: Wow that's crazy almost sounds like when he went back
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: in time and stuff or like what would have happened
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: if he would have stayed with that girl that's almost
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: like me deciding if I want to stay Amish or
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: leave the Amish yeah it's like a rumspringer yeah it's
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: like a really hard decision yeah.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: What factors do you think will go into you choosing?
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: What do you think are good factors to help you decide?
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: Or do you think about that?
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: I think it's what I will all see from, like,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: the outside world. And, like, I'll probably compare the two
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: and see, you know, which one I like. You know,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: I like the Amish lifestyle of food and all that
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: stuff is good. Like, the only thing right now that
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: I don't like too much are the rules a little bit. Oh, yeah? Yeah,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: but that's what Rome should bring us for you. To
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: break them.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, get out there and break them.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: Do you have any plans to go to any special
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: events coming up while you're on Rumspringer? Any football games,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: anything like that?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: The only special event I've coming up is actually this weekend.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go on a plane for the first time.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and jump out of it.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: No, really?
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to like, because like, let's say something
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: goes wrong when you're landing. So I want to like
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: be off the plane. you know, when it's up in
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: the air.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: And go skydiving.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: Dude, that's going to be sick. Are you geeked?
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: I'm, like, really excited. So this week is, I think
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: this is a week I'll never forget.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: It's really, really crazy. So, yeah, no one knows this.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: I haven't told anyone. I won't say.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: Anything, yeah.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. Let's go skydiving for the first time. But
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: I think don't they, like, put, like, they, like, strap
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: a person on the back of you.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: They put a guy on you, yeah. I just tell
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: them you're not interested before you guys jump.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Just say, look.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not interested, yeah.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: I'm here for the jump.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: I'm here for the jump only, yeah. Just as you,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: I don't want him getting any ideas.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no ideas at all. Yeah. Like, when we land,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: it's over.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right. That's what the plan is. And because I
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: was thinking, I was talking to my co-worker, I was thinking,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: you know, that would be a really crazy story. You know,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: the first airplane ride you ever go into, you just
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: decide it. You know, I don't want to, I'm just
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: going to chum out.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: I'm out of here.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: I'm out of here, yeah.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: So it'll be the first plane you've ever been in,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: and then you're out of it.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: I'm out of it, yeah.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: And then, like, same way with a podcast. I decided,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: you know, the first podcast I'd be on would be
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: Theo Vons, because you're a pretty cool dude.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, dude. I think you are too, man.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued by you guys' lifestyle. I think I
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: learned a decent amount about it today. Yeah. You know,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: there probably could have been some other avenues about it
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: that I could have asked about.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: But I appreciate you coming, bro. I really do.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you inviting me.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: And I admire you guys having a unique culture. I
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people in the world that
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: are trying to get back to the roots of their
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: culture and things that matter and mean something. So I
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: almost feel like you guys are already there in some ways.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in some ways, yeah. Some people, it feels like
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: it's not grounded anymore to family and stuff. They're just
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: doing really crazy stuff. But if you touch grass every day,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: you're outside every day. I'm outside all the time. That's
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: why I'm so dark. I almost look Mexican, but I'm not.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's really crazy. Well, I appreciate it a
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: lot for you inviting me. This is a really crazy
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: experience coming out here to town and then me sleeping
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: 10 stories up, up 10 stories. That's like the first
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: time I've ever.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: Slept that high. Oh, you're in a hotel that's really high?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: You never done that?
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: No, I haven't.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: And it's like my first time ever like staying in
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: a big city like this. So it's, it's, it's like,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget it.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah. Well, good, man. Timothy, I appreciate it, man.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, dude, for your time. Thanks for
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: coming out to my show. And yeah, just thanks for
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: being here with us and helping us learn, brother.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, dude.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: All right, man.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: Thanks for my hat, too, dude. Dude, that's the least
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: I could do.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: It was nice. And when I get close, dude, I'm
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: coming by for some coffee soup, all right? Yes, sir.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: With me. Yes. You got it.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: Cornerstone oh but when I reach that ground I'll share
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: this peace of mind I found I can feel it
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: in my bones but it's gonna take