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Patriots Unfiltered 6/18: Summer Storylines, NFL News, FIFA World Cup · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: to Patriots Unfiltered. First public practice will be July twenty fifth,
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  Speaker 2: and so we're looking forward to that. Not really, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not really looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to it,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't want it to come fast easy.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Scott.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is saying that.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like over the weekend and he had a
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  Speaker 1: he did have a sleeve on his right or left leg,
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  Speaker 1: and I can't one of the two. Why do you
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  Speaker 1: think I had a retort to that?
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  Speaker 2: No, I just thought, are you disappointed that you think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to get done?
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  Speaker 1: Sir? Why do you do that?
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  Speaker 2: If soccer was our number one sport, we would dominate?
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  Speaker 4: Why do we say things like no, if culture? What
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying is if culture because it because of the game,
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  Speaker 4: but like there's such a would be the best? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: just because of numbers, not because we're better human telling.
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  Speaker 2: This is the thing about Holland is is when he
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  Speaker 2: starts running that you're like, oh.
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  Speaker 5: My god, I kind of like bent over a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: His size, like, it's just the speed, it's it's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 2: at Julett Stadium, and we're in between matches for the
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  Speaker 2: FIFA World Cup, so we get to have a normal
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  Speaker 2: show at our normal time. Good to do. So it's Evan,
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  Speaker 2: it's Paul, it's me, it's Deuce, it's Alex and Alex
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  Speaker 2: in the booth. So Alex chirped in yesterday and I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if people knew who the voice was, and
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to say that was Alex.
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  Speaker 2: So so if you hear a voice that you don't recognize,
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  Speaker 2: it's Alex the booth. Yeah, there he is.
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  Speaker 7: Somehow he's been here twenty minutes. Every time he talks
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  Speaker 7: into the microphone it works.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt like hit the button, He's like, oh so
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  Speaker 2: all right, So not much is changing Patriots World since
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  Speaker 2: the last time we had a show two days ago
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  Speaker 2: or catch twenty two. Yes yesterday, oh, yes, right, yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: this Wednesday. How was the show with Barth.
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  Speaker 1: It was good. It was it was quiet quiet which one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we did. We did three up, three up,
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  Speaker 1: three down, three up, three down from from the Spring,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we had some good good talk
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  Speaker 1: about you know, how good Drake may looked, how good A. J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown looks, the gay backus thing. And then we get
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  Speaker 1: to the last one and Barth goes Bryce Berengerg and
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  Speaker 1: we went on an old rant about the punters and
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  Speaker 1: they both thought that that was okay. I just think
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  Speaker 1: it was on brand. Yeah, that's the show.
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  Speaker 8: Well, it's more of the tone of just like and
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  Speaker 8: of course, you know I've got to put baard like
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  Speaker 8: talk about him like.
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  Speaker 1: Of course we we you know, we dedicated ourselves to
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  Speaker 1: being that show that talks about the ninetieth guy on
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  Speaker 1: the roster. You might not hear it from everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: And Understandablyie, you've made yourself a niche show if you
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  Speaker 1: want to hear about Laurence Mentz and you know, the
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  Speaker 1: everybody down there, we got you covered.
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  Speaker 5: How much how many minutes did you do on the
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  Speaker 5: tryout punter that was there?
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  Speaker 1: We talked about the try out punter. We talked a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about you know, how both of us were
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  Speaker 1: mildly surprised that they didn't bring in at least official
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  Speaker 1: UDFA signing to compete with Baringer. It's been kind of
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  Speaker 1: more of a try out thing that they've been doing instead.
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  Speaker 1: But we both felt that Barringer probably deserved to be
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  Speaker 1: pushed a little bit after last year. It was a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a down year for him.
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  Speaker 2: And did you dominate the show?
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  Speaker 1: Did I?
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  Speaker 2: Because Darius writes an he says, I'm at work driving
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  Speaker 2: on the forklift yesterday, listening on the pod and you
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  Speaker 2: said the dominatrix line. I let out the biggest laugh.
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  Speaker 2: I had to stop working for a second because I
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  Speaker 2: had tears in my eyes. I was not ready for that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I thought, literally, that's just Fred and Fred.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you didn't tell Alex I said that he
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  Speaker 2: was here. He was locked in.
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  Speaker 5: He was diagramming the punts from Bearinger.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, going over his hang times sor right.
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  Speaker 2: He's very busy.
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  Speaker 1: It was like the coders on the social network.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So yeah, last show, we talked a little
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  Speaker 2: bit about Patriots, a lot about World Cup. We talked
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about movies. But Alex is here, anything
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  Speaker 2: on your mind?
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  Speaker 9: I came in to defend my sport after listening to
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  Speaker 9: you guys yesterday, I tried. No, I actually didn't. I
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  Speaker 9: actually didn't necessarily have a problem with anything I said.
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  Speaker 9: There was some good dialogue though about like soccer in America,
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  Speaker 9: and you all were trying to make but we're all
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  Speaker 9: trying to make different points, and it was all part
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  Speaker 9: of like I think, the same bigger pictures probably probably.
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  Speaker 2: Two emails that came in this morning that I think
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  Speaker 2: are pretty good. Uh, this is from JK and B Cases.
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  Speaker 2: I usually don't write in, but I had to ev
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  Speaker 2: enforce my hand. He said that even if soccer were
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  Speaker 2: more popular in the USR, athletes still wouldn't be as
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  Speaker 2: good as the rest of the world. Does he believe
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  Speaker 2: women's soccer holds any significance because that seems like a
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  Speaker 2: pretty obvious counter In the US, soccer is one of
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  Speaker 2: the top sports for women, maybe six for men, and
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  Speaker 2: the result is consistent dominance at the international level. It's
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  Speaker 2: what happens when a country's top athletes actually choose to
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  Speaker 2: play a sport. So if the premise is that popularity
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  Speaker 2: and athlete participation don't matter, women's soccer kind of blows
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  Speaker 2: that up. So I don't know if you agree with
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  Speaker 2: the premist. Are the top women athletes playing soccer?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I would just say I would just say that
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  Speaker 1: it was just all I was. I just don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's as simple as that, as.
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  Speaker 9: Simple as that, because penny countries you see playing in
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  Speaker 9: the World Cup don't even necessarily let their women play sports,
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  Speaker 9: but men aren't. Really, I think it's a very American
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  Speaker 9: thing to push little girls into sports, and it's great.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think you necessarily have that same culture all
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  Speaker 9: around the world. And regarding the women's national team, I
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  Speaker 9: think a lot of countries are starting to catch up.
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  Speaker 9: Whereas we were dominant for my entire lifetime. I think
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  Speaker 9: they're closing the gap quite a bit. The US women are,
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  Speaker 9: But I think the biggest difference between men's soccer in
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  Speaker 9: the US and say Brazil or Europe is it's almost
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  Speaker 9: like watching two different sports in a way. I think
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  Speaker 9: Americans really value physicality and athleticism and speed, and sometimes
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  Speaker 9: like there's been years where you watch like say Brazil
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  Speaker 9: play and the skill level and the technicalness and the
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  Speaker 9: systems they have in place, and like the ball control
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  Speaker 9: these guys have is so beyond anything we could ever
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  Speaker 9: achieve if our kids, like our kids would have to
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  Speaker 9: be coming out of the womb and just bored out
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  Speaker 9: of their minds every single day playing soccer with each
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  Speaker 9: other in the street, because that's how these kids do it.
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  Speaker 9: We have iPads, we have piano lessons, and like, our
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  Speaker 9: kids are so overscheduled. I think they just don't have
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  Speaker 9: time to be bored. And like a lot of these
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  Speaker 9: kids in like these countries, they grow up poor, they
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  Speaker 9: grow up just playing with each other in the streets,
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  Speaker 9: and like five minutes a day touching a soccer ball
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  Speaker 9: can really make a difference over time. We just like
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  Speaker 9: schedule the crap out of our kids. There's so many
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  Speaker 9: factors that go into why we are not like these
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  Speaker 9: great powers.
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  Speaker 2: But I and I think you made the point you
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  Speaker 2: made earlier about a lot of these other countries. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't until like the last twenty thirty years or so
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  Speaker 2: where they actually encourage women's sports. Yeah, they didn't have
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  Speaker 2: programs for women to play sports.
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  Speaker 1: So I actually think that's part of the reason.
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  Speaker 7: First I would I would just say yes when we
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  Speaker 7: talked about a lot of this stuff yesterday, And I
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  Speaker 7: want to speak for myself.
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  Speaker 1: I did not.
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  Speaker 7: I was this was not a critical of soccer thing,
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  Speaker 7: Like you know, I'm not the hugest soccer fan out there,
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  Speaker 7: but that's but that's not what we were talking about yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: We were talking.
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  Speaker 7: About why we think the US isn't a power in soccer.
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  Speaker 7: So like I just you know, like you were defending
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  Speaker 7: your sport. No need because I was not taking any shots.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think you guys were either. It was just
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  Speaker 9: you were all right when I was listening to it.
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  Speaker 9: The women, it's not one thing.
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  Speaker 7: I think is really interesting and you are absolutely right
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  Speaker 7: in that the world is now starting to catch up.
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  Speaker 1: And that was my.
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  Speaker 7: You know, admittedly snarky response to like a lot of
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  Speaker 7: the like the women's soccer dominance was like, well, one
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  Speaker 7: of like four teams that play.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, I love hockey.
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  Speaker 7: I would say the same thing about women's hockey, and
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  Speaker 7: it's Canada in the US.
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  Speaker 9: The greatest soccer player female of all time to me
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  Speaker 9: is Brazilian Mark.
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  Speaker 10: You know, it's marked that and it's me a ham
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  Speaker 10: for me.
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  Speaker 9: So I just think that if other it'll be interesting
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  Speaker 9: to see the women so and I.
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  Speaker 7: Also think that part of the reason why the US.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I think that the world is catching up
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  Speaker 7: because they're now starting to put more resources into the
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  Speaker 7: women's game internationally as well. But I also think your
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  Speaker 7: point about in America, there's been this ground swell of
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  Speaker 7: pushing young girls into sports, and you know what, it's
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  Speaker 7: the same problem because now you don't have to just
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  Speaker 7: play soccer anymore, because that's.
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  Speaker 1: Not the only option you have.
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  Speaker 7: Now we have a WNBA, but we have a PWHL,
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  Speaker 7: and I'm telling you the town's going to get water down.
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  Speaker 2: Except for individual sports, I think all women dominate all
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  Speaker 2: team sports.
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  Speaker 1: The gap in basketball is like what the men used
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  Speaker 1: to be like years ago. But I think resources is
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  Speaker 1: the big word. Like to the emailer, the US women's
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  Speaker 1: team actually has talked about this openly that their resources
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  Speaker 1: and the things at their disposal pale in comparison to
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  Speaker 1: these other countries because of how much we invent women's
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  Speaker 1: sports in this country. So I don't think it's that's
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  Speaker 1: exactly apples to apples, And.
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  Speaker 9: Like a little girl in Spain isn't turning twelve years
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  Speaker 9: old being recognized as like a talent prodigy and getting
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  Speaker 9: sent to real Madrid Academy or to like Liverpool Academy
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  Speaker 9: as a fourteen year old, you know, like for the boys,
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  Speaker 9: that's what they do.
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  Speaker 10: Like Rinaldo left this.
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  Speaker 9: Little island of Madda in the middle of the Atlantic
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  Speaker 9: Ocean to go to sport thing when he was like
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  Speaker 9: barely a teenager, you know what I mean. Like that's
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  Speaker 9: just not the same culture here for our men and
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  Speaker 9: also for women around around the world.
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  Speaker 8: I think you've got an interesting perspective too, because you
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  Speaker 8: grew up in a place in Massachusetts that's kind of
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  Speaker 8: a soccer hotbed. Like what I was talking about yesterday
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  Speaker 8: that there wasn't a lot of like in the community,
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  Speaker 8: but you grew up in a place.
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  Speaker 9: Where in the weirdest place ever, honestly, because there were
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  Speaker 9: so many Portuguese immigrants, so many Polish immigrants, so many
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  Speaker 9: Turkish immigrants. Like my dad didn't know English when he
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  Speaker 9: was little and going to school. He made friends through
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  Speaker 9: playing soccer, and my hometown always had such dominant soccer
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  Speaker 9: teams and really like I would go watch the Ludlow
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  Speaker 9: boys play varsity growing up, Like as a kid, that's
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  Speaker 9: what you did. You went to go see just kind
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  Speaker 9: of like Friday night lights on a much smaller sced
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  Speaker 9: like scale with soccer.
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  Speaker 10: It was the thing you did.
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  Speaker 9: And I would watch the Ludlow boys compete and just
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  Speaker 9: pass circles around, say like Long Meadow or Rival who
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  Speaker 9: their style is more like kick and run and physical chase,
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  Speaker 9: right exactly, And in Ludlow you kind of saw, like
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  Speaker 9: on a much smaller levels, like a microcosm of the
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  Speaker 9: difference between the really skillful style that's passed down from
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  Speaker 9: like our parents who grew up in Europe right to
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  Speaker 9: like long Meadow. It's all American kids, and long Meadow
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  Speaker 9: is just the You could substitute it with Minutchog whatever
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  Speaker 9: school you want, but there's just a difference in the
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  Speaker 9: style of game we play and the level of coaching
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  Speaker 9: you get at like a very.
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  Speaker 2: There is such a properational level, you know, the environment
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  Speaker 2: in which you grow up like Dutchbery, mass for a
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  Speaker 2: long time was like the hotbed of lacrosse. Ye, like
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  Speaker 2: when no one in Massachusetts lacrosse because their parents their
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  Speaker 2: father played lacrosse, and so it was just like how
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  Speaker 2: you grew up.
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  Speaker 9: And our club model too, like you start playing instructional,
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  Speaker 9: but very quickly it turns into like that pay to
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  Speaker 9: play like basketball, kids can just you don't have to
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  Speaker 9: have a lot of means or resources to just have
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  Speaker 9: a basketball and play with your neighborhood friends and you
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  Speaker 9: can get really good that way.
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  Speaker 10: You know.
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  Speaker 9: Kids just aren't playing soccer that way here in the
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  Speaker 9: US for fun, for leisure with their friends in a
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  Speaker 9: park like unorganized, you know.
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  Speaker 10: And then now.
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  Speaker 9: Parents are just totally like trapped by the club sports
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  Speaker 9: model across everything, and it's you know, you wean out
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  Speaker 9: a lot of talent that way.
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  Speaker 5: Funny you say that.
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  Speaker 8: I remember when living in California seeing plenty of pickup
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  Speaker 8: soccer games a bunch, you know, just old dudes getting together.
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  Speaker 8: You know, it's it's you know, it's different parts. You
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  Speaker 8: find these little pockets of soccer obsessed.
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  Speaker 2: But it's well you see that here in Boston, like
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  Speaker 2: older men playing soccer.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you see.
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  Speaker 9: Is has probably, in my opinion, some of the best
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  Speaker 9: soccer programs throughout like the country. I think Massachusetts especially
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  Speaker 9: for women, great great soccer program.
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  Speaker 2: The men to the Over the Hill League for soccer,
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  Speaker 2: which is I think it's the largest, uh league, you know,
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  Speaker 2: non professional or semi professional league in the country. It's
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  Speaker 2: called the Over the Hill.
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  Speaker 1: League's I mean it's good.
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  Speaker 7: It's good perspective on the whole thing because and I
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  Speaker 7: said it, Yeah, I gave you my thoughts. But like
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  Speaker 7: I admitted right up front, it's a very simplistic way
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  Speaker 7: to look at it because it's all of these things
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  Speaker 7: mixed into one. Like I would push back on a
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  Speaker 7: lot of the stuff, you know.
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  Speaker 1: If if this was just like a soccer show. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: it's not.
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  Speaker 7: But like all of those things about your attention span
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  Speaker 7: and your overscheduling exists in all the sports, but it
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  Speaker 7: only somehow is holding soccer back.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think you made a good point Paul about
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  Speaker 8: just women's sports in general, and flag football is a
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  Speaker 8: huge thing too.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Rhode Island's trying to get.
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  Speaker 7: That a million different things now because Alex is right,
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  Speaker 7: there's a groundswell of you know, Title nine has now
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  Speaker 7: been around thirty plus years or whatever it is, forty years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the style of play is a good point too,
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  Speaker 1: because that was kind of what I was trying to say. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that's the biggest is saying, yeah, when I watched the
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  Speaker 1: men's team like play, I never watched the US men's
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  Speaker 1: team and say our athletes are worse than the teams
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  Speaker 1: are going up against. They're worse at soccer. They're not,
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  Speaker 1: they're not.
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  Speaker 7: But I think you're using my term of athletes literally
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  Speaker 7: like run, jump, you know, lift whatever. Yeah, I'm talking
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  Speaker 7: about just talent. Okay, talented, but people. But we need
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  Speaker 7: to do as.
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  Speaker 1: You say, like it needs to be developed.
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  Speaker 9: If we had our best athletes Lebron, Tyreek, et cetera,
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  Speaker 9: we would smoke these people. You still need the IQ
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  Speaker 9: and the skill level. And also, like how many guys
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  Speaker 9: on this screen right now look like Lebron James running
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  Speaker 9: around out there likew.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's not about size, it's about talent.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't think our most talented people play that sport,
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  Speaker 7: but I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't think we are most talented people coach it or
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  Speaker 1: development either.
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  Speaker 7: So you and Alex are absolutely right about that.
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  Speaker 1: That's the problem is, like I I would you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think our issue is is that we're not
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  Speaker 1: athletic enough or we don't have a talent pool that's
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  Speaker 1: large enough. I think our issue is is that we
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  Speaker 1: up until about a year and a half ago when
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  Speaker 1: they hired a guy from Argentina to coach our national team,
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  Speaker 1: we we had poor coaching, we had poor tactics, we
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  Speaker 1: had poor structure to our program, a lot of those
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  Speaker 1: different types of things, and then you put them in
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  Speaker 1: a program and in a structure that makes sense and
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  Speaker 1: is built around their talent, and they win for to
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  Speaker 1: one in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Over the years, I don't know, And Cinman was one
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  Speaker 2: of the best World Cup cycles that we've had. But
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  Speaker 2: getting back to you can make the argument that in
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  Speaker 2: America we have a larger talent pool than all these
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  Speaker 2: other countries. It's just that they don't grow up in
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  Speaker 2: the culture of soccer like these other places.
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  Speaker 10: Right, And then.
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  Speaker 9: Ludlow, I did you know what I mean? And that's
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  Speaker 9: why you had ninety kids. I make fun of you exactly,
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  Speaker 9: but that's why you had ninety kids at Loud the
• 16:23
  Speaker 9: high school trying out for the soccer teams, and you like,
• 16:26
  Speaker 9: we literally had more kids trying out for soccer than
• 16:29
  Speaker 9: football in some years. You know, it's just that's what
• 16:31
  Speaker 9: the friends are playing, that's what's around, that's what.
• 16:34
  Speaker 10: Your dad would It would need to be the whole country.
• 16:37
  Speaker 10: So I don't think I think we're too far gone.
• 16:39
  Speaker 9: I think we just have to be happy making little
• 16:41
  Speaker 9: strides here and there, and well you're.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: Talking about the strategy.
• 16:44
  Speaker 8: I mean not to always tie it back to hockey,
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: but it's the same thing with USA Hockey, where you know,
• 16:49
  Speaker 8: it goes.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: From a bunch of youth teams dump and chase.
• 16:52
  Speaker 8: So now we're trying to regroup, we're trying to bring
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: the puck back, we're trying to cycle it more, we're
• 16:56
  Speaker 8: trying to make possession not you know, yeah like so
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: it's you know, but but to Evan's point, when it
• 17:03
  Speaker 8: starts with USA Hockey at the top, and then it
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: feeds its way down not just through the you know,
• 17:07
  Speaker 8: elite national development program, but all of you hockey, you
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: have coaches going to seminars. This is what we want
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: to teach. This is you know, and I think the
• 17:15
  Speaker 8: hope is that you start to see the results. Obviously,
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: the women's hockey team is you know, way ahead because
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: of the numbers.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: So Chris and Virginia and thank you for your service.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Chris has some interesting stats. He said, you've recently been
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: talking about why US is not performing right, but your
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: comparison to elsewhere is grouping whole continents together. Europe has
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: fifty five countries and only five of them have ever
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: won a World Cup. When compared individually to peer nations
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: like Croatia, Uruguay or England, the US is on a
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: perfectly normal developmental curve. With the twenty twenty six World
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Cup on home soil in a rapidly expanding talent pool,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: the US is steadily marching toward its first true cyclical peak.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: A few points for context. The elite is tiny. Only
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: eight nations out of over two two hundred in FIFA
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: have ever won the World Cup.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I mean there's only been like like the World Cup
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: starting in nineteen thirty and it four and.
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: Let's not though, let's not like equate. The only way
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: you're good is if you want a world right out.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: But like there's I mean, the US, I believe it is.
• 18:16
  Speaker 10: Like the best club league in the world with the el.
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but the US is like seventeenth or eighteenth in
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: the world rankings. Yeah, so it's not just like eight
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: teams better better than But when you're comparing them to well,
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: let me let me finish to countries that are the
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: size of our states.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Right, the US is ahead of most europe South American countries.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: The US men's national team has reached the World Cup
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: knockout rounds ninety four oh two, ten, fourteen, twenty two.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: This is a more consistent knockout stage record over the
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: last thirty years than traditional Europeans sides like Poland, Sweden,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: or even South America's Ecuador and Colombia. Even Paul's Italy
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: was knocked out in the group stage in ten and fourteen,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: so just hasn't qualified.
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: Italy didn't even qualify for this World Cup. Who's a
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: better soccer power? Like right now this year if they
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: played tomorrow, who do you think would win? I don't
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: know Italy, They're ranked much higher.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that, right I don't know. They
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: might not Wan.
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: I'm talking about if there was something on the line
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: that if the you know, if it was a friendly
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: or whatever, I don't know what would happen.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: But here.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: There's no way Italy.
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: Obviously the US to like a country its size with
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: its public like Brazil, and also.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Bringing up like Holand in Sweden and Ecuador the size
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: of like we're trying to compete with Argentina, in Brazil,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: in France, in Spain, in Germany, not Ecuador, Like you know,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I I would hope that we're ahead of a country
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: like Ecuador, Like, no offense to Ecuador, it's just a
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: tiny country. The US is a top twenty world soccer power.
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: Like, so it's I'm not comparing them to the ones
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: that you curistyle that lost seven to one to Germany,
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: you know, in their first in their World Cup debut, Like, yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: they're better than a lot of those countries that are
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: playing in this World Cup.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: There was certainly a lot better than the opponent. I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: would just wonder, like, you know, I think the big
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: question for the US right now is like, is this
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: this cycle and this team has been touted as like
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: a golden generation of US soccer? Is this a one off?
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Like is it? Or is this a sign that they're
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: developing talent now that can compete at the top.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I'll close it out, Chris closes it out. As a
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: brick currently living currently living in the US, I can
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: assure you that the US approach to soccer is just
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: as likely to result in future success as anything most
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: European or South American nations are doing. So that's someone
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: else's perspective from England, from Europe, from Europe, who's living here.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I mean I I appreciate the perspective. It's like,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: you know, they even our best team that I think,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: there's the most talented team that we've ever fielded. Politics
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: are best player and polistic barely draws on Ac Milan
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: like he like and he was hurt a lot of
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: last year, but like you know, he has a tough
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: time making their starting eleven sometimes, isn't there.
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: Some kind of I mean, I don't know enough about this,
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: but I've just in stuff that I've heard from my
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: boy Taylor Twelman, Like there's like some politics that go
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: into some of that stuff.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, him and the coach, I guess don't get along
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: great and he was hurt for a little.
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: They tend to want their guys that they're developing to
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: be in key roles and key games and whatnot.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: So getting back to the coaches that you asked, who
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: were the.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Coaches, because I feel like we've always had a European coach.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Uh, well, Bruce Arena was the coach.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Barhalter was the most recent coach. And
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: that guy stunk, Like we can just where's he from here? America?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, his son actually plays on the team now.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: But they he I mean now was a disaster, just
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: like they got grouped in COPA. They didn't do his
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: as they should have. In the last World Cup in Qatar,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it was bad. And then now they you know, poach
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: it took Tottenham really really far in the e PL
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and is like considered like a really high end coach,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: and I think that you're starting to see some of
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that progress being made. But he's only here for this cycle.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: He's moving on after this. He's going to coach a
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: club team after this, and he's only coaching the US
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: team for one World Cup and then he's done.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Where is the men's national team headquarters?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I think southern California, at least for this World Cup.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's where it is. It's a
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: permanent I don't know. I don't know. I know that
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: that's where their base camp is right.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Now because I remember, you know, we went to Germany
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: and we were at the there that was a facility
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: and that was a nice place.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, Bruce Arena is probably
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: our most famous national team.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: Coach, yelled at me and Paul once.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeahs soccer.
• 22:57
  Speaker 10: Inyetteville, Georgia.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, so they met Arthur.
• 23:01
  Speaker 10: Banks Soccer National Training Center.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: Arthur Okay, are.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: There Banks a big one soccer? He's a big soccer guy.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Socer Actually yeah.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think of that's slow motion shote.
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: That was That was a reference to somebody else that
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: we were talking about previously.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: James Pettigrew's on the line. I'm sure he's going to
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: tell us why we're all wrong. Go ahead, James, especially.
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: Me not as well. Are you ready for the education?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 23:31
  Speaker 11: There are some solutions at the end, so don't worry.
• 23:33
  Speaker 11: But there's a model, and there's a nexus in the model,
• 23:36
  Speaker 11: which is why you guys will never really achieve the
• 23:39
  Speaker 11: level of other nations. Right, you talk about youth football. Now,
• 23:43
  Speaker 11: for the core of the England team, the France team,
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: the Spain team, the good teams, they play their youth
• 23:50
  Speaker 11: football in the Champions League. Right. You watch the Champions
• 23:53
  Speaker 11: League and every year there's some seventeen year old I
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: remember Yarramir Lamar was the last one Barcelona, right, And
• 24:01
  Speaker 11: these seventeen year olds are playing their youth football in
• 24:04
  Speaker 11: the finals of the Champions League. And you need a
• 24:06
  Speaker 11: few of those in your team if you want to win. Now,
• 24:09
  Speaker 11: how do you get there. Evans sort of touched on it,
• 24:13
  Speaker 11: Messi started it, but at twelve years old is where
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: they signed their contracts, right, So Messi was the first
• 24:20
  Speaker 11: and they had to have a board meeting to check
• 24:22
  Speaker 11: if it was legal in the EU to bring him over.
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: But they sign a contract with you at twelve and
• 24:27
  Speaker 11: your family goes over, right, and then you've got a
• 24:30
  Speaker 11: one in one hundred thousand shot of making it. But
• 24:33
  Speaker 11: you look at all of those famous players, Messi, Ronaldo,
• 24:37
  Speaker 11: Rooney and Bathe, they're all playing in the Champions League
• 24:40
  Speaker 11: when they're younger. Now the problem is in America, very
• 24:45
  Speaker 11: few American parents, because you've got the NC double A,
• 24:48
  Speaker 11: they're going to say, you know, you know Paul or
• 24:52
  Speaker 11: Andy if little if one of their kids gets into
• 24:54
  Speaker 11: Liverpool Academy, they're not leading Massachusetts up and moving to
• 24:59
  Speaker 11: that because education with this, there's no safety net. You're
• 25:02
  Speaker 11: not getting a degree by going to some of these academies.
• 25:06
  Speaker 11: And unless you insert the twelve year olds, you're not
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: going to be playing you football in the Champions League
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: at seventeen or eighteen, because that's what it takes to
• 25:16
  Speaker 11: have two or three world class players. Because there's thousands
• 25:20
  Speaker 11: of slightly underworld class players. Right, we didn't take a
• 25:24
  Speaker 11: guy call Phil Foden with us. He didn't make our
• 25:27
  Speaker 11: twenty six. He would have been the best person on
• 25:30
  Speaker 11: the American team. You bring up Hulasitch made his debut
• 25:34
  Speaker 11: for Borisse a Doorman at seventeen and he was playing
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: Champions League football with Chelsea a few years later. Admittedly
• 25:41
  Speaker 11: he wasn't that great, but you need to have that model.
• 25:44
  Speaker 11: So the next this is when the kids turned twelve,
• 25:47
  Speaker 11: and especially with NIL, there's no way you're not going
• 25:51
  Speaker 11: to say I've got a good kid. I'm going to
• 25:53
  Speaker 11: send them off now for a million to one shot,
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: no education, and if he leaves, it really is Sunny's
• 25:58
  Speaker 11: car wash as opposed to well, he might be pretty good.
• 26:01
  Speaker 11: He can get a scholarship to un age. He's not
• 26:04
  Speaker 11: going to become a professional, but he gets four years
• 26:06
  Speaker 11: of education, maybe gets MENIL and then you graduate. Now
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: there is another chance, right, I've thought of another solution
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: because of NIL. Maybe the Premier League cuts to deal
• 26:20
  Speaker 11: with the sec right and then pushes the youth somehow
• 26:24
  Speaker 11: they can make some more money. So now you've got
• 26:27
  Speaker 11: NIL money. That's the only way you could maybe bring
• 26:30
  Speaker 11: more youth or sort of up it that way. But
• 26:33
  Speaker 11: that's my solution. American parents are not going to send
• 26:36
  Speaker 11: their kids abroad at twelve years old. From million to
• 26:39
  Speaker 11: one shot, all.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Right, But I read that Agasy book and at a
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: young age, I think just as he was going at
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: the high school, his father was approached by Nick Bolla Terry,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: who was starting this academy, who was still young, and said,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: send him here. He'll go to school, you know, but
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: he's gonna play tennis and that's what he's gonna do
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: all day long. And you know, he describes that whole
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: journey that and it was miserable for you. He hated it,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: hated it, but he did it. And you know, Nick
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Bolterry Academy grew after that. I don't know what it's
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: doing these days. But IMG had but a thing right now.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: And but that's an individual sport.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Well they had they have IMG and other sports.
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I academy, mom, you have all these like sports.
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: They're really just they do. They do exist, but they're
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: still schools.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: And they go like it's not just the people schools.
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: Say like okay, but exactly right, it's still a school.
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: There's still that like structure there. It's not like you
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: are going off to sport Thing or to Real Madrid
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: and you're gonna do nothing but play soccer.
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: And we just hope it was.
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: And how do you get a kid good enough by
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: the age of twelve to even get recognized at that level?
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: You have to be touching the ball every single day
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: in the dirt with your friends.
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: In addition, that's why I say it, and I know
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: I'm simplistic, but they do do that in other sports
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: Mike's and the USHL.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the parents can stay put. They live there. They
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: literally live there. The parents can stay.
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: Where they How old are you when you go play
• 28:22
  Speaker 10: junior hockey?
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: I mean thirteen fourteen?
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Good enough?
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: You know, if you're good enough you go to the USHL,
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: you go to some of these leagues now in Canada.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: And James brings up a good point about the nil
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: money too, because now you know you can sort of
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: like forego some of those things because you can make
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: some money when you go to college. But I just
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: I would look at there's some exceptions, but I don't
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: think the amount of nil money available in the non
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: traditional sports is anywhere near what worthwhile to bank on
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: it's not life changing money.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that he brought up polistics because I think
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: that his path is the best path forward for somebody
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: in American born player to become like a true soccer star.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: And he's the best that we've ever produced. So it
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: kind of goes to show. But he was you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: he went to Dortmund, like James said, when he was
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a teenager, and you know, like that that was he
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: didn't go to American high school, like he didn't go
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to college in the States. He played soccer and even
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: he's good, but not you know, we're not talking about
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Imbape here, like we're talking about a guy that's still
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: middling in the grand scheme of thing.
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: Could you ever imagine this kind of development system for
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: American football, you know, like we're talking all about hockey
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: and all these different sports where they have you know,
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: and I am she's probably a little bit of an
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: example of it. But it's funny that like the biggest
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: sport in our league or and in the you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: in our country, and the sport that we're most proud
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: of and think we dominate, like we don't really do this,
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: Like a lot of it is just I started playing
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: second year.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Of high school and he was six with five three thirty.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: And the end of you know what I mean, Like
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: there's a lot more of it than you think, like
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: it will. I mean, there's a lot of people that
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: But organized.
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: You know Steve Burton, Okay, who's on Patriots All Access
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: with us. He's a local legend here and you know
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: CBS for Boston. His son, Austin was a terrific high
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: school quarterback in Newton. He played in Florida. Yeah, that
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: happens all the time, all the time. You just don't
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: know about him all the time because this just happens
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: to be one with, you know, kind of school. He
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: went on Factory in Florida.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: You have to like have residency, like well, the academies
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: are different, but like even if you live like in Pennsylvania.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: And I know this because my son's cousin was a
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: really good hockey player and he lived in Harrisburg, but
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: there was another school in another town that was more.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Of a hockey school that would be Everett High.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: So his father rented an apartment there so he could
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: claim residency so his kid could go to that school.
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I hear you, guy, they're saying, I
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: just see like they're talking about like the organization of
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: it and how regiment it is. Where this is like
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: a specific school is specific good and they go you
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: know where it's not one body.
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: I'll try to remember when you're doing the draft process
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: next year.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: YouTube dorks, Right, yeah.
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: Think of the same think of the same school in Texas.
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: Just will just keep coming up.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Its St.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: Thomas Aquinas.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: They talk about all.
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: Of them in Florida, right, like the ones that James
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: how are possible Joe Bernard and James White and all
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: these guys all went to the same school. I wonder
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: how there's there's kind of the Ohio where it's Don
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: Bosco Prepp in New Jersey, there is you know, you
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: know modern Day in California. It's not a coincidence that
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: Jesus good every year, right, But you know there's a
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: football factor.
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: It's all having not like the National American Football development.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: You know, it's not.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Like it's not an international sport.
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: It's not under that umbrella, but it is the same
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: basic concept. There's one there was a tremendous documentary I
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: watched on one in Baltimore, and I forget the I
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: forget the name of the school, but I think it
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: was like, uh Pogy, I think was the coach Tom Pogy,
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: and they had all of these different at like Blake
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: Korham went there and he ended up going to Michigan.
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: And obviously I was with the Rams. The school existed
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: for no other reason than to develop football players. That
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: was why the school was created. So they do have them,
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: but it's just not as yeah, and it's and it's
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: not like I don't think you sign a contract when
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: you're twelve, you know, in mess easy, because I.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Think it's just like different because our D one college
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: programs will develop these sports. Like if you go to
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Kentucky or Duke or North Carolina to play basketball, you
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: were going to give yourself every chance to go to
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: the NBA if you have the talent. But if you
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: can't do that in soccer, because if you go to
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: North Carolina for soccer, you're not going to be anywhere
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: near as good.
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: But if you want to play basketball at do or Carolina,
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: you're not doing it from ever high school.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Or not as much anymore.
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: You need to go to like at the very least
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: one of the prep schools in New England probably even
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: more so like one of the AAU programs, you know,
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: one of the you only.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Really do that for like the enemy, like the end
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: of high school, like you go there for like a
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: year or two, like de Bonza went, you do.
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: Until your sophomore year and like your home.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Run and right, so like you know de Bonza, he
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: did it. Yeah, he played out in Utah for like
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: a year though, and then he went to BYU. Like
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: you know that, it's not like you're going to move
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: the process. But he wouldn't play at Brockton High. He
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: didn't play at Brockton High. He played at a prep
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: school in New England, then went to the place in Utah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I understand, but he didn't is what I'm talking about.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Not everybody can do that. But then he goes to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: you know, like our college basketball is good enough to
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: develop them on its own, where like our college saw
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: and our high school soccer isn't good enough. So like that,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: That's you said it yesterday and you were right. It's
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: a chicken of the egg. Yeah, And I think you
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: and I probably will always disagree on it, but you
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: would Neither one of us is right.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Neither one of us is wrong. Well, isn't We can't
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: prove each other right wrong because I can't go back
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: in time and put Tyreek kill in a soccer academy.
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: And you know, my whole point is moved because of that.
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: I can't prove that Stefan Diggs would be a tremendous
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: soccer player, but that's my belief.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I just watch his feet, and I just say, like, if.
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: If he grew up playing, if he grew up playing
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: soccer his whole life when he was five years old,
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: doing the stuff that Alex was.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Talking about earlier.
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: Okay, three two, I mean it is organized daycare as
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: I like to call it.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Two.
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Like those feet athletics. I think that would translate
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: to that sport. Not a big guy.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: That's that's why, like I didn't want to Lebron.
• 34:53
  Speaker 10: Because I would be the perfect person.
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: There's plenty of five ten guys that are just at
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: a different level of skill and talent.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I just wonder if they would get the development Muggsy bogues,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: you know, like maybe if they got recognized and they
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: got brought to Europe to play out their teenage drop
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: rigs in Rio. Yeah, but but he wants to develop
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: held America. I think no, Yeah, that's why I said.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: That's why I said, you're not wrong about the development. Yeah. Yeah,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: even though I kind of think you I know you do.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: It's so like you're so classic.
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: It's all we would be water there.
• 35:33
  Speaker 10: It's a very not an argument.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Because it's a very rareed thing.
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: It's a different point that you're all making to the
• 35:39
  Speaker 10: same argument.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do have some Patriots emails and questions coming
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: in thirty six minutes.
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: You're probably like, please.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dylan and Alabama wants wants to know. It's it's
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: a you know, it's a hypothetical, but uh a J.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Brown and Romeo Dobbs. Will that be enough to beat
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks in Week one? That addition.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Better? I mean they have enough talent to beat him.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, it's it's one game. I
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I would say, tell me how the offensive line plays, yeah,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: and if it plays really well, I'd say.
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean tell me how Drake plays.
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: Tell me how you know, what do you learned from
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: the super Bowl? You know what did the Patriots coaching
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: staff learned from the Super.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: Bowl about how they attack them?
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: You know what does Mike McDonald do differently and throw
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: some curve balls.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: He's a good Such a.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Different game than the Super Bowl, Like it's an opening
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: game of the season, and they've had some turnover, like
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: they're obviously Klint Kubiak is gone and coach of the
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Raiders now and Kenneth Walker is no longer there, so
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: that they've had some some change in Seattle that I
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: assume is going to maybe take a little while to
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: take hold. So it's just a completely different animal than
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: playing a team that's peaking in the Super Bowl versus
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: playing them right out of the gate and a season opener.
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I do find a fascinating though to you know,
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: what else do you have to go off of, Like
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: what do they say about that game?
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Though?
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: You know, what do they say? Work?
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: What do we say Josh? I know, Josh McDaniel is
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: a smart guy. What's he gonna what's how is he
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: going to try to adjust? And I'm sure Mike McDonald's thinking,
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: how am I going to adjust to his adjustments? And
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: you know they're at least at that level with Josh's
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: offense and Mike McDonald's defense, there's you know, probably some
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: schematic carryover and like, you know, like, I mean, what else.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Are you going to do? Like you haven't played a
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: game in between them, so you know, on the.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Other side of the ball. Just let's run at the edges.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Let's see if they can stop the run anymore.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see. Andrew writes in can you guys please
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: teach Fred how to pronounce lomu in acus? It drives
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: me crazy ands uh hearing him mispronounce their names every day. Also,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: another issue with soccer in the US is there aren't
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: enough coaches to go around for all these clubs and
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: academy teams. Landon Donovan spoke recently about how many times
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: you have one coach coaching five or six different teams
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: at once, which just leads to volunteers helping out who
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: have no idea what the hell they're doing.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: At Evans point, they're coaching. Yeah, yeah, I just you know,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I'm always going to be a coach, coaching and developing
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: talent kind of guy, because I think as a country
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: we have great athletes, so don't I don't think that
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: we don't have the athletes to field a great soccer team.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I think we don't have the development to do it.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe we are getting there.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: My kids played lacrosse, and if he if he had
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: just stayed playing his town team and hadn't gone to
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: a club team, he wouldn't have gone to college to
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: play lacrosse because he wasn't you need to. I always
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: call it the three c's, coaching, competition, and cost. As
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: a parent, you have to be willing to give your
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: kid all three of them. In today's world to get
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: to where you want to.
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: One thing I would say that's different around the time
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: of like when your son and I were growing up,
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: is that if you were playing club you were good enough.
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: Like it's I think now they kind of kids get
• 38:56
  Speaker 9: preyed on. There's a teams, B teams, C teams, and
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: they'll take your money and throw your.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Kid on a C team, you know what, the super
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: elite team.
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and then you have to pay for the program.
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: You know, Like when I was growing up, if you
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: played club soccer, you were really good.
• 39:11
  Speaker 10: You know, it was just different.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that definitely is true, Like especially with his
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: sport like lacrosse, where repetition is so important because it's
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: it's not a trained skill to throw in catch and
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: be able to do the things with the lacrosse sticks,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: so you have to kind of learn how to do it.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: And uh, as soon as I started playing club, I
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: got exponentially better, like because I was just playing so much.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Whereas when I just kind of spring would roll around
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: and I'd pick up the stick and dust it off
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: in march and get a run on the field, like
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: it's not it's not the same as when we started
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: playing all the time.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Adam and Louisyanna. I went to high school with Justin Reid,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: current Saints safety. He played soccer through middle school and
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: freshman year he was worlds more athletic than everyone else
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: in our grade. Then sophomore year he chose to focus
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: on football and never look back. Eric Reid, his eldest brother,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: also focused on football. They both made it to the
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: NFL and were great players. They have a third brother
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: between them, in ages, Ryan Reid. He was just as athletic,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: but shows soccer. He never got anywhere near the same
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: level of notoriety as them. That's why our athletes don't
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: choose soccer now. There is also a mindset aspect as well.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Ryan was never as physical on the soccer field as Justin.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: He preferred to run around you rather than through you,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: which doesn't always translate to football.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure justin Reid, God, it is like an
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: emergency kicker for the team, playing kickoffs and stuff like that.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: I love super athletes.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Let's see Chad is in Dallas. What's up, Chad?
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Hey?
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: How's it going y'all?
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Kay?
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I was wondering, is there if I changed topic on
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: how to fix the NFL instead of talking about soccer?
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: Absolutely not can how to fix the NFL's broken, Yes.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: And what I mean about that is like the development
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: players and stuff. So me, me and my neighbor always
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: talk about this on our back porches for hoops and giggles,
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: and we always said, why can't the teams hire want
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: to be coaches and stuff like that, hire eighteen year old,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: ninete year old twenty year olds to come just say
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: they work for Robert Kraft. They can develop techniques and stuff.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: They can get the NFL neck with the skinless chicken
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: and all that, and get rid of the college prospect
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: and all that. The peak people that didn't have a
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: choice to go to college or something. You can pay
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: them whatever a salary for a year or so, have
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: them on. Some want to be football team that Barbara
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Kraft has, and then he can do that with across
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: the whole NFL and maybe do scrimmishes and say you can't,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: you can't. You can't hire nobody from that whatever team
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: you want to call it, whatever you want to call it.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: They have to be in a contract for two years first,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: and then maybe have some some special draft for those
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: kind of players or something.
• 42:11
  Speaker 12: No.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I I I've thought of things like that before. Chad too.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: It's like it's that alternate path to go into college.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Like I want to play football. I'm making no bones
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: about it. That's what i want to do. It's like
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: almost going into a trade school after high school rather
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: than going to college. I'm going to go to a
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: football school. I'm going to get a job playing football.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Why would you do that when you could go to
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: go to D one college?
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: They can't.
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: But this is your because you're not smart enough, because
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: this is perfect time for you because you don't have
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: to be You think that do you think that.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: You think that they're worried about how smart the kids?
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Well? I don't know.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Nevertheless, so than right now.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: So what you're saying then, is that our n C
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: double a D one is what Chad is, but now
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: it is now it.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Is Yeah, it's basically pro football. Yeah, it's it's it
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: is pro football. I mean what's happened is like crazy,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: like it is profole.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: That's the NFL's developmental League.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, the SEC is basically like a yeah, you know,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: like you know how the NBA has league or you
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: know the MLB has the minor league system and when
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: baseball that that's the SEC. You know, like that that
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: that's what that is for football. I mean, you're not
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: going to get better competition and better resources than going
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: to one of those schools like Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Like I mean the facilities.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: AFL be subsidizing these schools.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: They probably are, you think, so, I mean maybe I
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have said. I mean it's the same thing as
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: like you know, look at like Indiana. Indiana all of
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: a sudden just becomes this football powerhouse because Mark Cuban
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: got really into his alma mater and now he just
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: bankrolls Indiana football. You know, like that that's just that's
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: just the way it is, and that's the way it's
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: set up with NFL. I don't think that they need
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: that for like high school and college. I think we
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: have a high school and college breeding ground.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: This is a big shift, a big idea, and maybe
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: a dumb one. But what if down the road, sometime
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: in the future, pie in the sky, the NFL and
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: college and c DOAA get together and say we're going
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: to move the college football season to the spring. So
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: now college football is now a spring sport for what?
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: For what end?
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: So that the NFL could get more involved with, like
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: maybe having coaches on campus and being more involved with
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: the programs.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that is that solving a problem
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: that I don't know you solved.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: I'm just like, I don't know, get out of that.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: They would have and they would have all the TV
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: to themselves, so maybe it would be more money. I
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: Sounds like the NFL is like, you know, go to
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: the spring, you're on TV, you know, try to get
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: them off.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't THEE would yeah.
• 45:05
  Speaker 9: I guess, yeah, I don't know what, but it seems
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: I don't know, like I don't think we would be
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: impacted by it.
• 45:12
  Speaker 10: But imagine like a die hard SEC fanly a diehard.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Operation some adjustment.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Could you see any benefits from having two football seasons,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: one for n c Double A and one for the NFL.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't like it personally, but it's not about me personally.
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: I'm trying to figure out what the pros are for that,
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: Like what what what?
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: What do you? What is the What does the NFL
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: get out of that?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: So all the focus, all the focus and scouting can
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: be focused on college.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: But that's what it is. That's what scouts do.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: But I don't know, So I don't know.
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: Basically, you're saying, so the scouts can watch the Patriots
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: play on Sunday instead of doing their job.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: For the scouts.
• 45:53
  Speaker 9: But which colleges get reps from the NFL teams? There's
• 45:58
  Speaker 9: only thirty two teams, which funds? Well?
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Do they? I think college has football has a lot
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: bigger issues, don't worry about before we start moving. I mean,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the college football set up right now is kind of
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: a not just kind of it is a mess.
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you'll get your SEC Big ten, you know, split
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: away from the NCAA.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: That's coming sooner.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I think they're going to come up with that
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: power league at some point.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I think that that's the best thing to do.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I know that the die hard like Sicico college football fans,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: you know, are would like rather see anything than to
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: lose the conference rivalries and stuff like that. That's gone.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: But I think the thing that makes the most sense
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: is to take like basically create actually not to like
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: make it about soccer, but create like a system that's
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: similar to England and you know soccer in England where
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: there's like a pyramid of relegation and so you have
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: like a top tier that's like the top thirty two
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: teams in the country and then like the bottom three
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: get relegated in the top three and you kind of
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: have it go up and down like that. Other rather
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: than having like, you know, these these conferences that have
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: just become a mess, where like there's teams that are
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: West Coast conferences that are in like the ACC. It's
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: like it's called the Atlantic Coast Conference, and we have
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: you know, a team in Collen Stanford cow. It's perfect sense,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: So why do in baseball, why do some people play
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: minor league baseball and some people go to college.
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: It's a good question, and I would say probably money
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: is a factor, and we'll see if some of that
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: changes now, yeah, because the same thing is starting to
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: happen in baseball, especially in the SEC.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Again, you can make some money playing baseball now.
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: The transport portal is huge in all sports, not just
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: football and basketball. It runs rampant in all of the
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: sports now, So there's money to be had. So it'd
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: be interesting to see if more players start to go
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: to college. I would say most young kids out of
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: high school that go right to the minors probably just
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: want to paycheck that they're good enough to sign and
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: get you know, a couple of million in signing bonus,
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: and they go.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. Uh you know, I had some
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: friends that that were good enough to play baseball and
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: at least at the minor league level, and a lot
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: of it is what James is kind of talking about,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: like their parents force them to go to college, because
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: even if you go into minor league baseball, you're still
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: one in a million that you're going to be a
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: big league player, right, So, like what happens if in
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: three years of minor league baseball just you know, you
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: flunk out and then now you don't have a college degree.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Now you're not playing baseball anymore. Like what's the path
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: for you in life. So Sony's yeah, so a lot
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: of ill just go back to college. But that's good,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: but that's why you might have.
• 48:44
  Speaker 10: To pay for it. But like you just made millions, Well.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know it's easier said than done to
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: just go back to college.
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: So if you're projected to be, say like a top
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: five round pick in baseball, and I agree with with Evan,
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: like it's or crapsh you whether or not you're going
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: to make it. So I can take the guaranteed money.
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: I'm going to get money to sign and I can go.
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: And if I play two or three years and I don't,
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: you know, and I crap out and it doesn't work.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: At least I got some money. I made a couple
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: of million.
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: If I go to college and I'm not that good
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: and I crap out, now I'm no longer a top
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: five pick, top five round. I'm saying, not top five
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: in the first Like, you know, I'm not as valuable
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: because I just went to college and I kind of
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: proved maybe I was a big fish in a little
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: pond in high school, but I'm not that good and
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: now I have no money to fall back on.
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: There's just too many ways to make money without a
• 49:38
  Speaker 9: college degree, now, right, it's not right? Yeah, what if
• 49:42
  Speaker 9: you play minor league baseball, there's a very easy path
• 49:45
  Speaker 9: to being an influencer or a hitting coach on YouTube.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if like our parents, No, our
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: parents are different.
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: This is how the mindset I would have.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but when we were growing away from our parents
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: were still like, to college and you get a degree,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: and you know, that's that's the path. And I think
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: you know a lot of my friends ended up playing
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: uh D one college baseball instead of going to the
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: minor leagues because of that, because their parents were like, no,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: you're gonna go get a degree and if baseball works out, great,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: but we're not you know, counting on that.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: What was a Schlitler's development, Like, how was.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: He a trader?
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: I knew that was coming. Yeah, but how long was
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: he in Northeastern?
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Just two years? I think?
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: And now obviously he he hit. He panned out when
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: he went to college. But to Fred's point, now, I
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: think you might see more kids go to college because they.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Can get both.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: They can start a college education for free and make money.
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: In a lot of cases, that's going to be at
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: least commensurate to what you would have made if you signed,
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: because not everybody gets millions to sign, only the very
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: select few, right.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: You know, I've had this rant before on this show.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: I believe, but you know, you're talking about the development
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: and in particular football in this country, and we know
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: it's hurting. Participation in tackle football has gone down. I
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: think the whole concussion thing really hurt tackle football and
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: all that, and it's a shame and the league, the
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: NFL should spend as much time promoting tackle football as
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: it does flag football these days. In my opinion, flag
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: football is not a pathway to tackle football. It's not
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: a way to grow the game tackle football. And the
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: league has a serious problem on its hand when it
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: comes to the talent pool. It could be one of
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: the reasons why they want to go overseas, but even then,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: you know, there's not gonna be a lot of tackle
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: NFL expansion if you can't also expand the talent pool. Uh,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: And that's becoming a problem. So I think the league
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: has to put on as big boy pants and not
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: worry about the whole concussion I'm not saying that safety
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be still emphasized in football. It should be. And
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: concussions are real. I'm not not saying they're not, but
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: concussions are real. And every physical sport, including soccer, by
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: the way, which I think has as high a concussion
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: rate as tackle football, you know when you know, with
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: the heading and all that stuff. So yeah, so so
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: football needs to embrace NFL needs to embrace tackle football
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: at the youth level and start promoting its participation and
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: getting as much back involved in tackle football as it
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: is currently with flag football. End of rant.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I think that there's some advantages to playing flag though,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: like it's not like for for some people. Yeah, for
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: the skill positions especially, you know, I mean definitely teaches
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you how you know to like if you want to
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: be a receiver, like you're catching the ball still and
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: you're still getting open, and you're still running routes, and
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: people's got to cover the people that are running the routes.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: So like I think the passing game as a whole,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: it definitely teaches it. The physicality part absolutely not you
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: know what kills me.
• 52:55
  Speaker 8: I mean, I've watched en a flag football with my son,
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: who loves it, but it's just the stupid grabbing the flag.
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: It's I mean, you know, a kid's running full speed,
• 53:02
  Speaker 8: he jumps up, does a helicopter. You know, all these
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: kids are like trying to get it, and then he
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: just keeps running right through everybody. And it's like, I
• 53:09
  Speaker 8: get so frustrated watching when I'm just like I just
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: want to wrap somebody.
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: Oh I can tackle him.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to grab a flag. There's no way to
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: prove this.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I hate it.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: There's no way to prove this. But in an alternate universe,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: if the development of football in our country was flag
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: or touch or not physical, it would not be as
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: popular as the NFL would not have become the powerhouse
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: it is if it wasn't a physical game like it is.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: That's what makes football unique. American football. Flag football, if
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: it started one hundred years ago, would not have the
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: popularity that the NFL has said.
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: It's so funny hearing you say this spread too, because
• 53:46
  Speaker 8: now I'm realizing, like you don't hear the NFL promoting
• 53:49
  Speaker 8: youth football.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: It's all flags. They're afraid. Oh you know parents are
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: going you're promoting this dangerous sport. Okay, well they need
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: to stop.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I mean at some point you need to play tackle.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I think when you're like in the third grade. Like
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I played tackle football in elementary school and got my
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: bell rung a bunch of times because I was small
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: and the concussion. Yeah, and like, you know, I don't
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: know if that was what's best thirty three I don't
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: remember so well.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: So exhibit A.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I played all the sports except soccer because I was terrible.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: But did you not get your belt wrung or injuries
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: in those The only.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Other sport I got my bell rung in was lacrosse.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, but maybe we shouldn't have to playing lacrosse used not.
• 54:32
  Speaker 10: As much as failed the concussion test.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: At the beginning of the year. Across definitely, he definitely,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: oh I know you did that.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: They lowered their baseline.
• 54:43
  Speaker 10: Who didn't It was like not encouraged by any insult favorite,
• 54:48
  Speaker 10: but like, I'm not going to call it.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I would actually I would actually get in.
• 54:54
  Speaker 10: An upperclassman was like, hey, if you bomb in.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: That, I'll never know. I gifted a couple of times.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: I still have a bump on the back of my
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: head from when Michael Mesdi I was up in the
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: air catching the ball in the playground I'm playing on
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: tar and he hit me and I landed on my head,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: blood everywhere. That's not playing football. I mean, so what
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: are we gonna you know, like we got to get
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: over this safety. Yes, they you know, improvement in helmets,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: improvement in rules.
• 55:24
  Speaker 10: Absolutely, car accident and.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Absolutely we should encourage all of that. But NFL, you
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: got to get back to promoting tackle football at the
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: youth level.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: I just wander the right way to right.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: They middle school and they're already playing tackle football at
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: that point, because like I think you can start usually
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: in most places at least by like the seventh or
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: eighth grade. Ye, Like you don't think that's enough time
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: from the seventh grade to all the way through college.
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: But player participation, that friend's right, it's way way like
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: so many teams that.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Used to have varsity, JV and freshman.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Here or like in like Texas, No, if you want
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: to go, but we need more than just Texas.
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: Teas, Texas, Texas border in California can't do it all
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: all the time.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, or like even like like you know, like
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: the Ohio area is a very popular.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Football western Yeah, yeah, there's like you know, still a
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: half a dozen to ten hot beds of football. But
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: that's not enough. It's not enough.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe not. I I just I look at the skill
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: of the game today, even compared to what it was
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I think that they're you know,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I think that you could make the argument that a
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: lot of those skill positions are never never been deeper.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: That's the same with every sport.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: But that's because, like you know, these kids, they they're playing,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: even flag football is still teaching the skills of like
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: catching a ball and throwing a ball and defending a pass.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Every sport you can say the same thing is training
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: is better.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's because the training and nutrition is better.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Could be, you know, So that's the same with every sport.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: It could be. I just think that people are bigger.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: I just don't think that there's I guess with flag
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: football in particular, I just don't think that it's like
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: worthless to have kids playing.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't say it's worthless. And I'm not saying that
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: the NFL should stop getting involved in flat football. I'm
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: saying they should be as involved in tackle football as
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: they currently are in flag football. That's all at the
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: youth level, that's all I'm saying.
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: I think it's it's getting to a critical point. I
• 57:36
  Speaker 7: think football is dying, like in the youth levels. This
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: just my little high school with my kids went to,
• 57:44
  Speaker 7: Like there was like sixty five kids when Will was
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: a freshman. I went to the Thanksgiving game last year.
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: They barely had thirty four. Thirty four to thirty five
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: kids in uniform. That's the whole program. To Fred's point,
• 57:57
  Speaker 7: this is a program that used to have varsity JV
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: in freshman games. Now they have thirty four kids total dressed.
• 58:04
  Speaker 10: But are they playing? That was my question.
• 58:08
  Speaker 9: Are these kids even playing sports in the numbers you
• 58:11
  Speaker 9: have to, I.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Don't know, but they're not playing football anymore.
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: They are, and the organizations all over Eastern Masts are
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: just shuddered.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: And and I'll say another thing about tackle football and
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: why the NFL should be helping to promote it. The
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: benefits that your kid gets from being on a football team,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: I think outweigh any dangers that there are. I'm serious, like,
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: there is a lot of benefit to being on It's
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: the greatest team sport ever invented. And I know the
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: soccer people will hurt kill me for that, but it's true.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: There's people of all sizes. There's different positions. Every position
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: has a role, and you look on the field and
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: they're all different sizes.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Spy and no.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Football is the greatest team sport ever invented, and the
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: benefits of and the you know, what's required to be
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: on a football team helps your kid immensely, immensely. Some
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: of the most successful people in our country played football.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt that that in sports in
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: general that yeah, I you know, but they have to
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: be playing something. If they're not playing football in the fall,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: then they're But it might not be that they're playing
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: another fall sport. It might be that they're they're playing
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: au basketball, or they're playing you know, club lacrosse or
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: like whatever, you know, whatever it is. I hope it's
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: not that they got like these kids are. We're not
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: like I mean, is it really that like dark like
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: they have to be.
• 59:36
  Speaker 10: Playing I mean a similar thing with fielding, high school teams.
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: Hockey programs that die in every way too. Now, that
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: to me is more about it's more about academies.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: If you're any good, you're.
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: Going somewhere prep schools.
• 59:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah it is, But I mean my school and Sharon
• 59:53
  Speaker 8: just combined with Detam, so the same thing, Paul, And
• 59:55
  Speaker 8: I remember when I went out for freshman.
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: Football and we had.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: Varsity JV and a freshman team, and you had the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 8: numbers to support that, and now it's it's sad. And
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 8: I mean, you know, I remember when Sharon play King
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 8: Phillip a couple of years ago, which King Philip, you know,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 8: one of the best schools in the state.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: They like this and you just look.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 8: At the sidelines and you're like, there's like twenty five
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: undersized kids who the uniforms barely fit them.
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  Speaker 5: And then it looks like there's an NFL.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's it's striking.
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  Speaker 15: I think any I mean the receivers want to get
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  Speaker 15: get it to them. I think that's the simple part.
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  Speaker 15: I think the working together and the understanding one another
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  Speaker 15: and what one's capable of and what the other one wants.
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  Speaker 15: You know, when the quarterback is looking for something to
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  Speaker 15: make him comfortable and the receiver thinks he can do this,
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  Speaker 15: I think it just there's a dynamic there. It's fun
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  Speaker 15: to go through the process of building that, especially with
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  Speaker 15: two very talented players. I would say that that's probably
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  Speaker 15: the case for our entire skill group, though they're all
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  Speaker 15: doing that right now. They take reps with each other.
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  Speaker 15: Sometimes it's the first rep they've had at something, sometimes
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  Speaker 15: it's the seventh or tenth or whatever, and you can
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  Speaker 15: just see the growth as they do it. So more
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  Speaker 15: repetitions build great habits. That's what we're out here trying
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  Speaker 15: to do. And I think those two are are hard
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  Speaker 15: at work at trying to do the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: But just the game you have this year wide receiver
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• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: Julian m Josh Gordon.
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  Speaker 2: And Tonio Brown.
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  Speaker 1: And how do you go about managing so.
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  Speaker 5: Many talented blathers.
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  Speaker 15: I don't know if it reminds me of any group,
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  Speaker 15: but you know, I mean, there's a lot of guys
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  Speaker 15: that can do a lot of interesting things. You know.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 15: The good thing is is really there's not I don't
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 15: know that there's two guys that are really you know,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 15: close to being the same. They all offer different things,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 15: different abilities, different skill sets. Our job is just to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 15: try to figure out how to put them out there
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 15: and let them have an opportunity to do those things
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 15: as much as we can. There's other two there's two
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 15: other skill groups that are involved in that conversation too,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 15: with the tight ends and in the backs, and you
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 15: guys have seen those guys too, so you know, it's Look,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 15: it's fun. This time of the year is really good
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 15: because everybody gets an opportunity to rep and learn and
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 15: make mistakes and then correct it and then learn from
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 15: it and get better. So that's what we're trying to do.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 15: And you know, at the end of August as we
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 15: head into the regular season, hopefully we figured out the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 15: best way to do it with the group. Very smart,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 15: really he enjoys the game of football and you could
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 15: just tell that he's had a great deal of experience
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 15: at a high level, you know, whether that's route technique,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 15: understanding coverage, releases, top of the routes, how to do
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 15: certain things you know on in situational football, whatever it
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 15: might be. Uh, He's certainly had a great deal of
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 15: high level experience. You can feel that when you talk
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 15: to him. But he's also really intelligent, understands the game,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 15: his position, what it takes to be successful. So it's
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 15: been it's been awesome. I'm I'm excited we have him.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 15: Look forward to continuing to build our relationship, uh and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 15: continuing to get him, you know, acclimated to our to
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 15: our offense.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 16: Mike I said yesterday that you and Ashton we're working
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 16: with dread Dahn with an interstates of the line of scrimmage.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: How do you see him progress that?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I think I think that's much the same as
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 15: what we talked about. With everything else that he's doing,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 15: you know, he's further ahead and regard. You know, there's
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 15: nothing worse for an offense than negative plays. They kind
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 15: of they put you in bad situations. And we saw
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 15: that last year. You know, when when that happened to us,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 15: you know, it's it's hard to overcome those things. I
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 15: don't care who you are, so uh, you know, we're
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 15: just we're trying to do what we can at each position,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 15: not just a quarterback, but certainly he has to say
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 15: in all of those and so I think his comfort level,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 15: I think his maturity and understanding of how bad those
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 15: things are for the offense. I think that's that's taking
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 15: a huge step forward. He understands it, he gets it,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 15: and so through that, hopefully we'll be much improved in
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 15: that area when we get to the regular season.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: When we were talking last week.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 16: You made there's not a one for one comparison, but
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 16: the physical subsproncas like the close thing.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: When you look at that, do you.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 16: Put it on yourself like I gotta hunt this matches
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 16: for this guy because of decide you's trying to know
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 16: you're early in the process. But is that something that
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 16: goes through your brain when it comes to aga?
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 15: It depends, you know, it depends on what kind of
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 15: defense you're talking about. Is it a team that plays
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 15: a lot of man and man's own? You know, who
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 15: are the corners?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 11: You know?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 15: How do they play?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 15: He'd probably be the first one to tell you that
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 15: he's he is a mismatch. So I'm not sure how
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 15: how long I have to hunt for him. But but
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 15: but I understand the level of player, the scheme, how
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 15: they try to take you know, players away or or
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 15: at least limit them. That impacts all of our decisions
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 15: every week and how we go about trying to create
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 15: the best offensive performance for our team. So I think
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 15: all of that stuff, honestly will kind of play out
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 15: and as we go. I think right now, the biggest
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 15: thing for us is, you know, learning multiple positions, being
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 15: able to handle moving around, understanding what we're doing, how
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 15: does it work at the quarterback, getting acclimated in that
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 15: regard so that we're able to do those things if
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 15: and when we need to, you know. So, But I
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 15: don't think that process is going to take long. It's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 15: very quick learner. And like I said, it's that he's a.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: And now great moments in.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: History.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: She's my lines are way off this week. Yeah, I
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: just I don't. I don't believe in.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Do you get your lines from Jimmy the Barbers?
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 7: It's week too to spread and I just I just
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 7: go to draft cans very nice.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Had the same lines as Paul.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: So we go to draft, no draft.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: Listening draft.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: They are presenting sponsor for the post game show. So
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: I think that we should draft. Yeah, I mean show
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: a little of every week you mocking. Can I can't
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: go to you go to draft?
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Why don't you go to draft?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: I'm not allowed to. Fred I signed a contract.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: All that you're not allowed probably it's not allowed to
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: use it.
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  Speaker 5: Don't You can't even look at it, Paul, they don't
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: even go.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: To look at it.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Every week.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: You can see every Thursday morning, I grandfather different rules,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: like this is not serious?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: Right, that's another great moment.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: All right back here in Patrios on Field today five
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  Speaker 2: to five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast at
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Patriots dot com. Is the email address. It's Evan, Paul, Me, Deuce,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Alex and Alex in the booth talking football. We're talking soccer,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: we're talking you sports, We're talking how to grow the game.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: It's it's all this stuff. It's it's Thursday in the
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: off season, the true off season of the NFL, when
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: nobody's around, nobody except us except us, So we get
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: to talk about whatever we want, and you get to
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: talk about whatever you want. A lot of people were
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: talking about Christian yesterday because they were upset. They think
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: he's trolling. But Christian's on the line. Christian, what's going on? Hey?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 12: You I tell you guys.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 11: Hey, you guys.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 12: No, I'm not I'm not trolling, you know for the
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 12: little lady in LA that wants me to ask more.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's more than just one person, Christian. You want
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: me to Yeah, yes, have.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 11: A whole show of just Christian in LA.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 12: Hate that would be Mark.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: I got a feeling you like it. I don't.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 12: I don't like it, but I understand why I draw.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 12: I did a lot of people that want to be
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 12: radio famous and they just can't.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 11: So here we go.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: With Okay, all right, Tom, but keep going.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 12: Yeah, So I'm going to do soccer person then and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 12: then football soccer wise. I know we've talked about NFL
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 12: athletes and how they would develop it the soccer players.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 12: But based on their exhibited skill set, if the soccer
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 12: players that we're talking about were to develop or you know,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 12: from youth to develop into football players, what position athletes
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 12: do you think they would be?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 14: I e.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 12: They definitely wouldn't be linemen, right, So that's my That's
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 12: my first question. And then my second question is I
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 12: put together in my own mind a top five on
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 12: offense and a top three on defense, and then I said,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 12: outside of the top three on offense, who's the one
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 12: player that if they had an expectional breakout year, would
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 12: lead the offense to being a top three offense and
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 12: same thing on defense. So for me, my player was
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 12: Trevion Henderson, you know, with his potential for a big
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 12: play and explosive play, his skill set.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: I feel like with the.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 12: Expectations that teams are gonna already have made for a J.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 12: Brown and the Drake May and maybe vermondre Stevenson and
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 12: probably Romeo Dobbs outside of them, if this one guy
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 12: were to have an X factor year, that to me
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 12: would put them over the top. So and I have
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 12: a defensive player too. My question for you guys is
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 12: who's your top five on offense, the top three on defense,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 12: and who is the player outside of that list that
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 12: you feel that if they had a breakout season, they
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 12: would help help us be in the top three in
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 12: the top five And to the lady in LA, is
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 12: that okay? Now?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: All right? Okay, so let's let's go with that.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 8: I don't know, I'll just go with Kyle Williams rather
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 8: than name in my top five. I was just somebody
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 8: outside of the top five who could maybe elevate the team,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 8: bring an element of speed and you know, just some
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 8: young legs with that receiving group. I think you know
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 8: hopefully what to expect from Brown and Dobbs, But could
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 8: you have an X factor guy who just has a
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 8: really good season.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Could someone who hasn't had a season yet have a
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: breakout season. I'm thinking gave ocus if he had a
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: great season, how would that elevate the.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: Probably be a huge help for sure.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think if you're not going to say
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Travon Henderson and I feel like Kyle Williams is the
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: other pivot, you know, the year two breakout guy, I
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: don't know. I I this is semantics, I guess, But
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Travon Henderson had twelve hundred yards as a rookie, like
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: he already broke out right like, so like this is
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: I would say more of like a year or two
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: week he had like ten touchdowns.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: But see that's not fair. And as much as I
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: love Trevion Henderson, by just going by the numbers doesn't
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: give the context of his season and would know that
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: he had a small part of the season where he
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: really broke out. That was that and after that.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: So to me, and again this is semantics. But to me,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: he broke out in that October November period of time
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: last year, this would be like a year two leap.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Like if he went and then did it for a
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: consistent seventeen game that that would be a year two leap. Yeah, because,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: like I think we already know Trevon Henderson's an NFL player,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Like now it's just how good of the NFL players.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: But I think simply saying well, he had twelve hundred yards,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: which means now he's really really good, that's too simplicit.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I say it is really really good. But he
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: led you know, we did our preview videos earlier today.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: He led the team in yards and total touchdowns last year.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: This like as a rookie.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: So I mean you can say that it all kind
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: of happened, you know, in a confined time period. But
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, he was the most productive
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: offensive player on the team.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: By the numbers.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean at the end of the day,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: trying to put points on the board, aren't we I.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Understand, But you do you understand what I'm saying abuse Yeah, yeah,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying the whole season, right, not just no,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: I said.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: It was I said it was a semantics argument. Okay,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: but I taught you, well, just sit here and say
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: that he needs like he needs to break out. It's
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: like he already broke out, like he needs to stack it.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: He needs you're too, I think in most reasonable people's
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: definition of breaking out, I don't think he's broken out yet.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: He's had some breakout perform some breakout. He's had some
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: breakout performances and games, but not a season rookie, not
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: a season.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 14: Ye.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: So no, I mean, you know, it's different things that
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I thought that was implied.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, is Trevion Henderson considered one of the
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: top ten backs in the league.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: No, No, But if he becomes a top ten back
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: in the league, then he made a year two leap.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Of course he didn't break out.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: I would say he broke out if he becomes the
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: top ten. I mean, that's a breakout, like he broke
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: out from the path.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: But you're like, so, Kyle Williams had ten catches last year.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: If all of a sudden, Kyle Williams goes and has
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: like eight hundred yards and you know, sixty catches, he
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: broke out, that was a break I agree with that
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: be a year two leap.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: I agree, sophomore slump.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 9: It's a breakout season in the context of just our
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 9: New England bubble, or do you consider a breakout season
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 9: like you've arrived league wide, some cheap fan the last you.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Are that that well, I think unfortunately, because of fantasy football,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: everybody knows who Travon Henderson is. Maybe even if he's
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: not a top ten running back in the league, he's
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: fantasy relevant, so people are going to know who he is.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's funny we put we did our preview offense
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 8: and we talked about running backs, and I brought up
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 8: the stats, and this is kind of the conversation we
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 8: had of like, geez, when you really just look at
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 8: the stats, like you know, it's it's pretty impressive the
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 8: season he put together.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: I understand what you're saying, Fred, I'm not trying to
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: argue with.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: You, but but did he break argue?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: But looking at his playoff like I didn't, I don't
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 8: really looked at his playoffs stats. How many how many
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 8: snaps he played in the FC Championship four snaps?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Four snaps?
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: Evan's like, yeah, yeah, but I mean the production too,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: is I.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Mean because the beginning in the end was bad. Yeah,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: That's why I sort of agree with both of you,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 7: which is why I didn't get involved in arguing.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: We are I would have jumped in. It just depends
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: on which it right.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: Stats and I think.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: Really good game.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: If the rookie showed.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 8: Flashes of it, that's good enough for me. You know, like,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 8: I don't know breaking up very promising he showed.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: But did he break out? Pick a side, dude on
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: the not how he did it.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be funny to during like he's breaking out?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: Is he though he already broke out?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: And you know he's.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 7: Gonna that's gonna come down. That's gonna come down on
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 7: a post game show. That's a breakout performance from Trevion
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 7: Henderson today, the.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Same one he had last year on the table had
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: three times. The question is it puts the jelly donut down?
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: That was a breakout game.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: Can a breakout game? Can a breakout? Well? Breakout performances
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: are what they are, and he had some of those.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: But can a play a breakout in three or four
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: games or does he have to do it prove it
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: over a season?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: That's that's the that's why Travon Henderson is such a
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: good person to use this yet, because he broke out
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: for like a month last year. He was a Rookie
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: of the Month for the NFL, I think in November.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: I think it was last year.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: So did he have a breakout season? Right? Right?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: Did he break Did Jonas Gray break out against the
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: Colts again?
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: Right? And he never played again?
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 10: Still hanging around the community events though he is.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: He's the nicest guys.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: I had no idea what to expect my first time.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 8: I had to do like a oh man, we had
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 8: to do a like a It was, I guess you
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 8: could call it a rally. It was before the Buffalo
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 8: playoff game in twenty one and like we're doing a
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 8: little thing.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: It wasn't anything like as big as we usually do.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 8: And it was up in the up and Patriot Place
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 8: and it had to be twenty below zero with like
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 8: a wind chill.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: There's like eight people there, you know, it's the Friday night.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 8: And then Jonas Gray was there, but he was great,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 8: brought us ring and everything that awesome.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Henry from Yorkshire, Henri right, Sin haven't had a chance
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: to listen yesterday's show, but I want to know, if
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: you guys saw the scut and fans at Fenway Soccer
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: fans really know how to enjoy themselves. I did.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 9: Fomo, how could you not about the Red Sox games
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 9: this weekend? As someone testing Red Sox games until they're
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 9: good again, I like, for the first time all season,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 9: I was like, that looks electric.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 10: That looks like just being in Boston in general looks
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 10: like so much.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: I hear, it's a great atmosphere.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 9: I also saw a video of a New York news
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 9: reporter interviewing Scottish people on the streets because they had
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 9: to move now to New York City.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 10: And they're like, oh, what are you How are you
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 10: liking New York And they're all like, it's not as
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 10: good as Boston. We want to go back, and right.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: I love that, love it.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: It was last weekend. We were out a little bit
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people. Now I've seen it
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: way too many social media videos about it, but there's
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of people and it was a lot of
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: fun and they're all very very nice, and I try
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: to give them some pointers about you know, Gillette in
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: the area and you know, come into a game here
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: So that was cool to go to Jersey.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Mikes.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 13: No.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: I told them that I worked at the stadium though,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: and I think they thought that I was like a
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: stadium worker and not like you know, I didn't know
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: that and then nothing. I just think that they got it.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 10: I just think talent.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: I just think that they were really.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: In front of the camera.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: I have a podcast.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 8: Actually I did like four hours straight on Wednesday.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: We're never gonna finish.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 17: It just was funny because they I think they're not
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 17: we met this errand really arrogant blow. I think they
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 17: just had got the wrong idea of the type of
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 17: person they were.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: They thought that they were meeting somebody that you know,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: this man does not do physically, Yeah, is not direct people. Yeah, Yeah,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: they they were. They were very nice. It's a new
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: version of the you know themselves.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: So also, Henry has a way too early over under
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: for the season. Low MoU plays on offense. Uh, I
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: don't know what to fifty point five? Oh plays, not
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: plays but actual play. The number of plays he does
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: on offense two hundred and fifty point five or what
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: is the average for a tackle?
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Well, starting one seven. Yeah, he plays every snap.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: Would oh low move.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm going to say under half. Okay, I'm on
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 7: a bank on me on the side of health, good health.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Even if he's in the six a line package, that
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: they're only going to do that one hundred times. Yeah,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: So I would say I would say.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: Under raredan catches twenty five and a hay under take
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: the under and that rookies that make the fifty three
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: man roster six and a.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: Hope please, Well there's nine draft picks.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: Three of them are lost.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm going to say under when I under six
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 7: and a half six to say under, I don't think
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 7: there's that many.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: I think Prenty you make is it?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: And after that, I don't know.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: Uh gave gave Acus contracts signed a hey.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Like will he signed over? Eventually he will sign I.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 8: Guess he was in the Blue Square Alliance video. Was
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 8: that we posted yesterday? Was Akis in the building?
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that so much about our fan base. We
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: put out a video. Yeah, like it's the DiCaprio.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 10: It doesn't break down community film.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: I did break it down, but I thought that it
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: would probably best to not, you know, tweet about him.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: Being in the video. So I let everybody.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 8: Seriously though, like we talked about contract and all that, like,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 8: is that off the field kind of stuff not part
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 8: of that? Like, I mean, is this any kind of
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 8: sign of contract?
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: Didn't you be here?
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: Couldn't be here during my point last.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: Week because there's something else going on and that we
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: But it is interesting that he was. Yeah, that could
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: have been right after the draft.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 9: It could have been their first thing and reporting and
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 9: we've been sitting on.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: It unless.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: Unless that was a turn and burnt I have a
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: rookie event.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 7: Though that could have been absolutely could have been done
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 7: right after they were drafted.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for all we know. Yeah.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: Uh. I originally wanted to ask about ocus sacks five
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: point seven five, but I'm now starting to get worried.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: That's that's the use of the seven five five and
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: a half. We don't want to push we can have
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: a half that's half sacks bug me. Yeah, I don't
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: like it, especially when when three guys share a sax. Yeah,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: it's like, can we just so what do you somebody?
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Somebody hit the quarterback first.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: Over under sacks for Ocus five point seven five under.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say he's gonna get like three or four. Yeah,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't what did Ponder get last year?
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: Four?
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to take the under. I feel like
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: I'm being a gas lit a little bit about Achis
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: and what his skill set is. And maybe it's just
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: a me thing, but I I've heard some grousing some
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: things from the scribes about how he's going to come
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: in and be like Joshua and this like third down
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: pass rush role and all that kind of stuff, and
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: I just I don't see him as that kind of player.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: Like I see him as a rugged, power oriented edge setting,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: you know, like talking a lot about effort and finish
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: and you know how he plays with a nasty and
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: like stuff like that, Like that's not a two hundred
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: and forty pound third down pass rusher.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 8: I wonder how much time he needs because I feel
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: like a lot of what they do a lot.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: Of stunts, and you neque experience with that.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 8: You need practice with the timing of it, and you
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 8: know how to come off of those kind.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: Of I agree with both of those absolutely.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 7: I think that And I think Christian might have asked, no,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 7: someone asked yesterday if that was a position that it
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 7: wasn't as important that he was missing time because of that, Like, yeah,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 7: and I think the same person who's trying to gaslight
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 7: Evan was suggesting that, like it's, you know, Seaball get ball,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 7: And I don't really think that's the kind of player
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 7: he is. And I do think a lot of what
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 7: the Patriots do up front is a little bit sophisticated.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: It's not just Seaball get ball. Yeah, I think there's
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: definitely an element that that's probably most of it is
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Seaball get ball. For a player like that, I just
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: think his role. I've always thought that he was going
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: to be a better early down player than laid down
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: player to start. The pass rush was the question mark
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: with him is does he.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 7: Have So that's why speed I guess was under on
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 7: that because that, you know, and Mike is the one
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 7: that kind of got me on accus originally in I
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 7: don't know March or I was like.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: Two years ago. I think I was already grinding.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 7: Mill I saw, you know, it's it's kind of I
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 7: think he's I think he's I hope hopefully they can
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 7: save the leg got enough. I think it's he's a
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 7: really good football player, but not not. I wouldn't I
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 7: think what Evan said, he I wouldn't just consider him
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 7: like this dynamic athlete coming off the edge. I think
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 7: he wins with effort and finish and all that stuff.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 7: Which is why I lowered the number, because if that's
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: how you're winning in college, it's going to be harder
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 7: to win that way. Now, he could still be a
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 7: really good player and not necessarily be twelve thirteen sac guy. Like,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 7: he could still be tough and have a high motor
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 7: and all that stuff and beat blocks and collapse the
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 7: pocket and like, you know.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 8: Like you know, not to like set a low ceiling
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 8: on him, but you know, like Nikovitch didn't have a
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 8: lot of juice, but but.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: He he came, he came up with his plays. Absolutely.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: I just have to mention this. We're watching World Cup
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: and this guy's writhing on the ground and pain and
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: while he's on the ground, his teammate just bounced the
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: ball off his head. Did you catch that?
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: I missed it?
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 8: I I really didn't want to do a thing about
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 8: the injuries of soccer, but I like, we watched sports
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 8: for a living, and you know, and I'm always so
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 8: attuned to injuries and like when guys go down on
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 8: the football field, I am like, oh no, like what
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 8: is this and this soccer game, it's like every single
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 8: one the guy's down like that's a broken leg, Like
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 8: he is writhing on the field. I've seen guys break
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 8: their leg in football and not react the way that.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 5: And then they cut away in the can and then
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: it comes back.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 18: I thought you were a thing, and I thought, but
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 18: one thing about soccer that I don't think we understand
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 18: is that you can get kicked in the shin or
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 18: your footsteps on and it happens so fast because these
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 18: guys feed are so quick that the only way they
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 18: feel they can get the ref's attention is to do that.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: Because sometimes like and you think it's just attack this
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: guy so strong, it actually does hurt more than you think.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: Where there's no contact.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 19: At all, Like I said, it is out of control,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 19: which is the majority of a lot of times, like
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 19: you have to like slow it down frame by frame
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 19: to actually see the contact because these guys are so
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 19: their feeder.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 8: I wish against the Ravens like three times a game,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 8: so like I wish, I wish I.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: Could like make fun of it more. But like the
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: NBA has gotten really bad. With the NBA is absolutely
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: every bit we're getting close to that being you know,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: almost as bad as European soccer. So like you know,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: if one of our sports is doing it.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: Then even the NBA again, you know.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: The head heads and the landing space foul.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 7: I always say that the new logoh, they should replace
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 7: Jerry West with Lebron checking.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: Like every time you drive to the hoop, if a
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: guy you know, goes to finish at the rim, he
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: ends up on the ground and you're just like you
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: get his land on your two feet, like you don't
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: have to fall.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: Even the NBA, like these guys are so fast that
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: like a lot of times, like you'll see something and
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: the guy will like, oh, you're like, nothing happened, and
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: then they really slow it down and sure enough he
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: got an elbow to the to the cheek or you know.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 7: So I see more often than not there was no
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 7: contact at all. And I and in Fred's point about
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 7: it being hard to see, like I don't blame the
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 7: refs because it is hard to see in real time
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 7: how fast these guys are going, how gifted they are.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 7: But the reactions to me a comical and it's every
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 7: bit before I get the soccer hate, it's not socked.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 7: Every bit is bad in the NBA. Every bit is the.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: Thing that epidemic in the NBA is falling down after
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: you shoot that. That has become every single guy. And
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: it's not so much like my landing area, but that
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: I think the landing area thing has gotten worse than
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: the the oh he hit my arm flop like that.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: That now the landing area thing, you know, s g
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: A is probably the worst. Like every time SGA takes
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: a jump shot, he's on the ground and you're just like.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 8: Single get up like It's just it's kind of be
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 8: hard as a player to be like, I gotta make
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 8: this one look good, like and you mean, you got
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 8: to act like it's there, like just the line.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 9: Then like they look around, they see no one cares,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 9: and they get back up and they call. He's like,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 9: if you did that five seconds ago, maybe you could
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 9: have followed up the play gotten.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Lay in the finals doing this to pick on the Knicks.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: But like Jalen brunts and flopped so bad he almost
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: hurt himself. He landed on his tailbone because he flew
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: back to try to sell the call and he landed
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: on his tailbone and he like like ding himself up,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: like trying to.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: I did that. I took charge and as a defender,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: I you know, sold it, kind of sold it and
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: I landed flat on my back and everyone's like, good play,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: good play, And I'm like, you know, for a week, yeah,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: your tailbone is I sold that one a little bit.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 7: Too real, I will say, you know, with all my
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 7: soccer snark, I've been watching this Czech South Africa game.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: It's been a pretty good game.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 7: There's been good scoring chances up and down the field,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 7: even though it's only one nothing.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: I would say this has been an entertaining some of
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: the games.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 8: I don't know if this is a trend in soccer,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 8: but like an early goal and then not like it's strange,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 8: like I've seen a lot of goals quick off.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 7: But the teams have had the chances. Both teams have
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 7: had a lot of chances since that early goal.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: There's was a lot of concern about it from myself,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: included about them expanding to forty eight teams and watering
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: it down the tournament. But I think a lot of
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: these smaller countries have actually held their own a lot
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: of these games now like Cape Verds that's the pinnacle,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: but a lot of these teams have have been competitive,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: like more competitive than what.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 9: Drew Portugal yesterday after an early Portuguese beronal though oh yeah.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: Wow aj in Providence. To have a breakout season means
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: to develop in a particular area of your game and
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: or demonstrate better consistency at the things you do well.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: Henderson made tremendous plays, but lack consistency. He needs avoiding
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: getting stopped for no gain so often. He needs to
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: improve in this aspect of the game so that when
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: he doesn't break a big run, he can at least
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: pick up a few yards most of the time. Yeah,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's my biggest question with him is just
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: you know, Kenny see it a little.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, have you laid it out pretty well?
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 8: Like, you know, we know he's explosive when he can
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 8: find that space. It's just does he have trouble finding it?
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 8: And you know, just again looking at the stats, it's
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 8: there were plenty of examples in the Super Bowl or
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 8: even in the playoffs where it's just like there's.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: Nothing there and he just running right in the offensive
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: line right.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: Now he's got I think pacing out runs is my
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: biggest thing with him this year is like you gotta
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: do that Le'Veon bell every once in a while where
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: you gotta let it develop and you gotta sometimes you
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: don't need to be zero to sixty in a blank
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: like you want to run, you know always, I want
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: to run at full speed. A lot of guys would say,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: you know, receivers and running backs they hardly ever run
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: at full speed because they're trying to set things up
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: and they're trying to, you know, create those creases and
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: stuff like that before they hit the gas. So him,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: you know, you gotta have gears like you're in a
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: five speed. Don't always be in the fifth gear. You know,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: you gotta start in one and build your way up.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 5: Just be interesting to watch how that develops.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 8: I'm just I'm very curious as a skill set if
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 8: that is something you can develop or is it you.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 5: Can see it or you can't see it.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sully the die hot Patriots fan. So for those
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: cluded to football as a whole former universities. Since a
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: QB Brendan Soresby is potentially going to go in the
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: NFL Supplemental Draft in July two questions, what do you
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: think line is on Sworsby going for a second round
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: or above? And what is the line on Sworsby placing
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: a bet on that line? We got in troubles.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: I think that this is one of the more interesting
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: offseason stories that we've had because he admits that he
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: gambled on his own team. Yeah, and then he's going
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: to Texas Tech and an il deal. He played at
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati last year and now he's playing at Texas Tech.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: He Texas Tech kind of went down with the ship
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: with him at first, and all these teams around Texas
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: Tech are opting out of playing games against Texas Tech
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: because they have originally backed Sorsby. Now Sorsby, who a
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: judge approved him playing in the NCAA. Now he's saying,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: even though he still has eligibility, he wants to go
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: to the supplemental draft. Technically, the supplemental draft is only
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: if you're out of eligibility for some reason. So that's
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: a whole like loophole that he now has to work around.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: You know, there's some people that are trying to make
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: this is he any good?
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: I was gutting to that there are some people that
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: are trying to make this out to be a little
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: bit more than I think it is. You know, there
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: are a lot of people that are saying he has
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: first round caliber tape, and he's a first round talent.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: And you know, if he was drafted normally, if you
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: went to Texas deck had a good year drafted normally,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: he was gonna have a chance to be a pretty
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: high pick in the upcoming draft. I didn't really see
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: that when I watched Cincinnati's offense last year. I wasn't
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: watching him specifically, but I didn't really like think, oh, wow,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: this is some future NFL star at quarterback that they have.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: But he's definitely somebody that I think is worth a
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: Day two pick in the supplemental draft from a team.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: And you're gonna have teams like the Jets, the Dolphins,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals, the Browns potentially, you know, these quarterback needy
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: teams that might be in line to take him. So
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: to the Emailers question, I think you might have to
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: put in for a second round pick to win the bid.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: You know, you might win it at the third round,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: but I think the second round, if you really want
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: to win it and you really want the kid I
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: think you have to put in a second round pick.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 7: I've seen a lot of people throw second round out there.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 7: Seems a little rich. And just to let people know
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 7: how that process works is if you it's the same
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 7: order as the draft order, and you submit a round
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 7: that you are interested in, and basically if you say
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 7: second round pick and someone else's second round pick, but
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 7: you pick first.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: Like you know, in Evans case, Cleveland.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 7: Would have priority over the Patriots if they both put
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 7: a second round pick in, so it's whoever submitted the
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 7: highest pick would get the rights. The Patriots did a
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 7: supplemental draft. I think my first year that I was
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 7: here Fred with Gerrod Cherry doing him.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, it used to be more popular.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 7: It was a fourth rounder I think at the time.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 7: But Bobby Greer I remember we were at a preseason
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 7: game and Bobby Greer told us that whole process of
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 7: how it went down.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: I think there hasn't been one in the while, but
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: there's been some success stories.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 7: I think the last one they had was twenty three
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 7: and no one was taken. Yeah, almost no one submitted
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 7: a bit.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think the best player was probably
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: Josh Gordon. Recently, Torrell Pryor was a supplemental draft pick
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: as well. But you know, there's it's not It's not
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: like it never produces a player. You know, Josh Gordon
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: was until he went off the rails as a good player.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 7: So now there's a handful of guys that have been okay.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 7: But it's an interesting point you bring up about the eligibility. Yeah,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 7: the draft eligibility, because technically he is kind of eligible
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 7: right now, even though I don't think that's going to
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 7: end up being the case. I think eventually, you know,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 7: all right, they could come to their senses and maybe
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 7: you have someone not from Lubbock, Texas make the ruling right.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: On flag football, Ben in the Truck says, it seems
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: to me that every commercial I see for flag football
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: is for NFL branded leagues. Is it possible the league's
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: promotion of flag football over tackle is also financially motivated.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: I'm look, money is always part of everything, but right now,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think the league. They give them those brands,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: they don't make them license that are paid for it,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: so they're not making money off of that. They just
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: hope that having those brands out there will get people
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: aware and more interested in the NFL at a young age.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: But I'm not sure that's how it's gonna work.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 8: I mean, they're still supporting the pro the like the
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 8: Pop Warner leagues and things like that.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they're I'm sure they do support it, but
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: they don't make a big thing about it. No, I
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: can tell you that much because we're asking the question.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how they support it. Yeah,
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: I mean that's honestly, I don't know.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 8: It's just what makes it hard because it seems like
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 8: you're kind of hiding from the problem. Whereas if you
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 8: were educating people and educating coaches, and you know that
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 8: are certainly risks with every sport, and the best way
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 8: to offset those risk is education and practice and understanding,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 8: you know, from a young age how to take a hit.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's the you know, big thing
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 5: I heard one of.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 8: The high school football coaches talk about, is you know,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 8: kids get in like they gonna learn how to take
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 8: a hit. I mean, you know these kids have now
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 8: a lot of these kids had never been hit before.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 8: And then you know, you're fourteen, fifteen years old, you
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 8: get to high.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: School and all of a sudden, you getting plowed.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 8: It's it's a big adjustment sometimes that scares people right
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 8: out of the game.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the there's been some stuff out there
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: about how to hit, but I feel like we don't
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: talk enough about how to be hit.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: Ye.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: It's like the jiu jitsu.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like and there is a science their weight against
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: them yeah man. Yeah, and like you know, making sure
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: your head doesn't snap back and all that good stuff.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: That's Fred's but they have the head, you know, head
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: up football and you know, keeping your head out of
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: tackles and stuff like that, and more tackling like a
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: rugby player would, where you're wrapping with your shoulder and
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: your arms. I think is something that they're that USA
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: Football is trying to promote more of instead of like
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: in the NFL now calls a fifteen yard penalty. Yeah,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: like torpedoing. You're like, you know, like Sean Taylor.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: I always said that, like, you know, if your arms
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: are at your side when you're trying to make a tackle,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: you're not trying to make a tackle. You're trying to
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: make a hit. You know, Like the idea would be
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: to wrap up and bring him down, you know.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: So Jalen Hawkins.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: Christian from Austria writes in a few points about soccer.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: First of all, you massively overestimate the importance of athleticism.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: Soccer is more of an endurance sport, and every professional
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: player has a certain level of athleticism. Far more important
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: is skill with the ball in understanding the flow of
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: the game, just like a linebacker that is a step
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: early because he knows what's coming. The point about coaching
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: not being there is true, but it's far earlier than
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: when kids start playing in a club. Every toddler in
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: soccer crazy nations get put a ball put in front
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: of them as soon as they start walking, and gets
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: taught by their parents how to kick a ball correctly.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: The youth soccer coaches in the village clubs are also
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: parents and volunteers here, but unlike most Americans, they all
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: played the game themselves. And lastly, and like the American
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: sports that you play with your hands, in soccer, you
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: need to develop skills with your feet. Running fast is
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: only as useful as you can run fast while controlling
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: the ball. To Fred's point about America having the population numbers,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: Russia and China already tried that and failed miserably. I
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: look forward to you continuing the discussion while the World
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: Cup is on.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 8: I mean that speaks to you know when I said yesterday,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 8: but the fabric of the society. I mean, these are
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 8: kids that grow up and they are handed a soccer
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 8: ball and that's you know, what they're doing from minute one.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 8: They're the people they're looking up to. They're gathering around
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 8: and watching games together. It's you know, that's all part
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 8: of it.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 9: So I said at the beginning, the difference isn't with
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 9: American soccer, isn't athletes or numbers. It's it's the skill.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 9: It's the way they're playing the game, which is.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 7: What I mean by athleticism. And I unfortunately use that
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 7: word and everybody's fixated on it. Well, so I can't run,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 7: I can't put the toothpaste back again.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: Is there a difference between skill and athletics. Yes, And
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: so he's saying it's more about skill than it being
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: an athlete.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 8: But I think it's more easy to develop skills I'm
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 8: talking about.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 7: I'm talking like when I bring up a guy like
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 7: Tyreek Hill or Stefan Diggs, I'm looking at their skill set,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 7: not like to Evan's point, they might run the forty
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 7: yard dash in a similar time that a lot of
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 7: these soccer players do. That's not what I'm talking about
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 7: their endurance and whatnot. It's probably similar to these guys
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 7: are world class athletes. I'm talking about a skill set
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 7: that I think there are other players that might be
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 7: better at the skill if they did what.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: The email is talking about.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 7: If they if they grew up with a soccer ball
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 7: on their foot three years old, I think that they
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 7: have a skill set that would translate and in this country,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 7: for better or worse. I'm not telling you it's right
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 7: or wrong. They don't gravitate to that sport. They gravitate
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 7: to other sports.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 9: Well, that comes with time. Like that comes, it's so
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 9: much time. It's like golf, It's like hitting a baseball.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 9: It's reps, it's practice.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: Golf is a perfect example.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 7: I don't think a lot of people would say a
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 7: golfer is a tremendous athlete.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, but there are a lot.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, like brooks Kepta is like respect totally, but
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 7: like Rory McElroy is a tremendous condition tiger. They have athleticism,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 7: but it's more of a skill that I'm talking about
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 7: than they're just pure athletics, like.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 10: Ricky Fowler too. That's most people wouldn't look at him
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 10: and be like, that's an athlete, you know, great golfer.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: Daily dark.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: How much would it benefit the United States as a
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: country to be the superpower of soccer in the world benefit.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: I think it would benefit the world stage. I don't know,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: probably not any more than us being a superpower and
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: basket in.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: Other words, you know, you always look at the benefits,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: the financial or otherwise. Is it more beneficial for the
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: country to be better at soccer than American football?
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: I do think that because soccer is so internationally famous
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: that if you look at like the athletes that have
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: like the most like social media followers, it's almost always
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: soccer players. Oh yeah, because they there's just such a
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: larger audience, because the whole world, it's the whole world.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: They have more than their team themselves.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, so I guess in that sense it probably
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: would be better. Official was it.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 9: The Cape Verdian goalkeeper got eight million followers overnight? Yeah, overnight,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 9: you can he could never play a game of soccer again,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 9: And with eight million followers, you can make a living
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 9: for the rest of your life.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: Dude's a man. He's forty.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 10: I'm a man.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: Uh call from Galway. Just a quick note or point
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: that the qualification for US to a World Cup is
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: much easier than that for a European team where the
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: teams are much better. On average, teams can struggle like
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: Italy and a lot of similarly talented teams as the
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: US find it hard to compete.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: There's some truth to that, but there's also you know,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: Europe has more like ways to qualify that be to
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: try to circumvent that, because it is would be unfair
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: if it was like, you know, equal across the board.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: You know, US qualifies through CONCA cap not this time
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: because of they hosted in the host nation automatically makes it.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: But I think the US would have qualified anyways. But yeah,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: it's it's a good point. You know that they're they're
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: they try their best to create like quality playoff qualifiers
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that that would allow like Italy did
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: it to himself, Like I'm not giving Italy and out like.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not giving it.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 7: I'm just saying they're better, Like they may they underachieved
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 7: and they have no one to blame.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: But themselves.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 7: But I mean, just it's tempt team the better, and
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 7: just because ones in the World Cup and one isn't.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: The email is right now, they're definitely historically better. For sure,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: they're not even close. Definitely a much bigger soccer power.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know if the eleven guys in Italy would
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: feel tomorrow versus our eleven guys that. I don't know
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: if that how competitive that game would be.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: Let's see a lot of emails all different subjects. Eric says,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: I've been really enjoying the off season talk so far.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: The shows have been fantastic, even when you're talking about
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: the obvious fact that there has to be life somewhere
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: else in the galaxy. It's just too big for humans
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: to be the only intelligent life out there. The World
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: Cup has really taken over the timeline on my social media,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: and I wanted to ask which every four year event
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: do you like more, the World Cup or the Summer Olympics.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 7: Ah, I like the Winter Olympics more than Okay, we'll
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 7: throw that in there, winter Summer or World win.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 8: Olympics, but I'd probably go Summer Olympics just more variety.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 7: I like the winner because of the hockey. I the
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 7: hockey's tremendous. But yeah, I would say both Olympics for me.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 7: But I mean, obviously I'm not a soccer.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: Is the World Baseball thing is that every four years
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: it's going to be And this last one was awesome,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: was one.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: Of the better. And the hockey one was good too.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: Well that was four nations the Olympics or the Olympics. Yeah,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: but yeah, the World Baseball Classic was a huge success
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: this time around. It was really good and really competitive
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: games and dominant teams and everything. But I don't know,
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: it's a hard question because they're also different, Like the
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: Olympics is dominated.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: By which one do you spend more time watching?
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: I watch a lot of all of it.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 8: I think I watch about the same. I flipped them on.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 8: I watch a little here and there. I'm never like
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 8: sitting down to oh I got to watch the five
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 8: hundred event.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: Here's the other thing that we have to remember about
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: this year's World Cup. It's in our time zone. So
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: I remember last World Summer Olympics. Where was it?
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: It was in last Summer Olympics. The one that just
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: happened was in Europe, wasn't it. But you mean the
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: Winter Olympics whatever whatever it was France. Yeah, yeah, the.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: Time zone was like it sucked because things have already happened,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: and you know, you didn't get a lot of live
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: stuff that night when you sat down. This is perfect
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: for us because it's all live at night when we
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: in prime time.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought, like, I mean, I think the Olympics,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 7: the Winter Olympics that just finished in February, we were in Italy,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 7: and so that you know that there's an obvious time
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 7: but there was a lot of stuff that you got
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 7: to watch live. Now there's a lot of stuff to
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 7: Fred's point that was you already knew, but like if
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 7: you want to you know, not no results and watch
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 7: you can. Like I watched those hockey games live and
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 7: they were at odd times that the women and men
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 7: were both tremendous to watch those, you know, the tournaments.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the gold medal basketball game was like
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: early afternoon here because it was like a night game
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: in Paris, but.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 9: Before like the metal rounds and stuff like are you
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 9: watching the early stage games and stuff like for the US.
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  Speaker 5: I watched.
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  Speaker 7: I watched that, But I'm and that that might just
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  Speaker 7: be like the reason why I would say winter over
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  Speaker 7: summers because I probably like hockey more than I like basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Same same, you like hockey more than basketball.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you already knew that about Deuce.
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  Speaker 7: Really, I mean, come on, yeah, you really do, especially
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  Speaker 7: at the pro level.
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  Speaker 2: You're not just being performative.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, college, I could do. You have to be college
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 7: I could. I could make an argument for March madness.
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  Speaker 7: And you know, like the college basketball tournament's much better
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  Speaker 7: than the college hockey tournament, even though I love you.
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  Speaker 2: Like hockey better because Northeastern is better at hockey.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure this out here.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great watch.
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  Speaker 5: Do you not like hockey, Fred.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: Or I like hockey?
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  Speaker 7: It's that the NBA's If you asked me that question
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 7: in the eighties, it would have been the opposite. I
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 7: would have said the basketball. I don't like, you know,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 7: fifty five three pointers being chucked every single game, and
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 7: even the teams that don't do that as much still
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 7: like over forty.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: Like it's not really a I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Think it's away the game.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: I don't like the way the games get played. Okay,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: they were shooting from the same spots on the floor,
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: but there was no three point line. Would you still
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: all hate it?
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 9: Because I feel like the three is just such a
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 9: san Antonio series. Yeah, there is a lot ninetiesstball, so
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 9: I liked.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: Some of that.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I actually the playoffs this year, as
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 7: much as I criticized the NBA, were really pretty entertaining
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 7: all around. It's I just wish there was more variety
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 7: to the way the game is played, and to Alex's point,
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 7: san Antonio gives you.
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  Speaker 1: A little of that.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 7: And I also kind of like the fact that Wenby's
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 7: kind of doing the the WWE heel, you.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: Know, and I think he's kind of embracing bad guy.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: He's embracing being a heel. I don't like that, you villains,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: He's kind of playing like one. Like it's not like
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, the guy had more flavorant fouls than anybody
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: else in the playoffs and almost was going to miss
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: a finals game. He's unapologetic about it.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: I think, uh, you know, because teams are trying to
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: rough him up, so he needs to fight back.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he also could you know, hit the gym, but.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: What he strong, that's just's just a differently shaped than everybody.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 10: He's so tall.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think like that tall you don't want to
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: buke up.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that it was so controversial, But say
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: he needs to get stronger. I don't think that's controversial
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: I don't like, what's your definition of strong, Like he's
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: not going to get muscly No. I just you know, well,
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: he plays and I have no problem with it. But
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: some people do like he plays like Kevin Durant. He
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: plays like a seven six Kevin Durant. And so there's
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: so many people that I hear that are watching these
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: games that are yelling get his seven six but in
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: the post, like what are we doing? And that's not
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: his game, and say he he's a face up player,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: Like he's a guy he plays thereund you know he
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: he's not. He's not a old school back to the
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: basket player. That's not who he is.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: But I like, he's not afraid to drive to the
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: hoop and take his hits.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: No, I'm like, I don't think he's a baby or anything.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, there's Paul says that
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: he you know, he doesn't like the style of play,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, Wemby should Wenby in
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: the eighties or the nineties would have been back to
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: the basket player. He would have been posting up and
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: they would have been thrown them the ball and he
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: would have been making kareem hook shot.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 7: And to be clear, I don't want all of that either.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 7: I just wish there was some variety. It's basically five out,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 7: pass it around, driving dish for an open three, and
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 7: that's how almost everybody plays. To Alex's point, I think
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 7: OKC doesn't.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: Really play like shy a little bit.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: But no, they don't. They don't shoot as many threes
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: as most.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: They don't and they don't there was constant moves.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 7: Brentson's not afraid to penetrate and pull up, which I
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 7: kind of like.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: I do think that those teams, you know, the two
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: West teams and the Knicks, are maybe going to create
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: more of that because that's how you have to win. Yeah,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: they were successful with doing it.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: Pascal and Harlem writes in I'm Half French. In my
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: whole life, the only soccer I've watched regularly is the
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: World Cup in the Olympics. To me, the biggest barrier
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: to soccer's popularity in the US is time the European
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: games are usually happening while we're at work or school,
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: so growing up, the kids don't have any high level games.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 10: To watch Saturday morning EPL.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: I know, you got to have Peacock though, it's like
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: trying to get kids to be football fans with the
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: UFL or baseball fans with Triple A.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: I think that the biggest issue is something that he
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: I think was kind of hovering around, is like we
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: don't have superstar American soccer players. We have, like you know,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: you can't. If you're a kid and you're an American, you
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: can turn on the TV and you can see we're
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: talking about Wemby. You can see Wemby play and like
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: that you can say, you know, he's the he's the best,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: Like that's cool. You can watch you know, Drake May,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: you can watch you know well and baseball, hockey, any
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: I think you really hit on something there because you
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: can't underestimate the influence of that superstar. Look at what
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: Yao Ming did for basketball in China. Yeah, and now
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: look what basketball is in China.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 5: Wing Gretzky did for hockey in La. Right, you is
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 5: not You're always bring it back.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: You are not going to create from like I'm just
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: gonna latch onto like Arsenal, I'm just gonna I live
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: in America, but at eight a m. On Saturday mornings,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to watch Arsenal football. You don't you don't
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: care like you we do for Boston sports, Like that's
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: not gonna like come, I've tried, trust me, Like it doesn't.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: It's not easy to create that. Whereas with the UN's
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: mess national team, like you feel like you have a
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: rooting interest, like you have you have a reason to
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: root for that, you know. I think that that's for
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of kids. Is the hardest part now is
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: the MLS just isn't isn't that there? There isn't a player?
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: God forbid the day when we do have this amazing,
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: amazing soccer player and he goes and plays in the
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: Premier League or Boondesliga, all our kids are going to
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: be watching that league for that guy.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 8: But like, how do they find him before he gets there?
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 8: You know, like how do they you know what I mean?
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 8: Like is he on Clemson or.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 9: It's going to be an American dad was like stationed
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 9: in the military in Europe and he actually grew up.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 7: Well, like the kid that scored all the goals the
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 7: other day, who's wife went into premature labor and happened
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 7: to be born in the United States.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's and thank you for picking the USA.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: But like you know, he the reason why he picked
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: the USA was because he didn't think he was going
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: to play for England. Like he wasn't going to make England.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: So when they said to him, do you want to
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: be English?
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 10: Because he's on the shoulder we need though, but he's.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: Played for Englan and as a younger, younger lad he
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: played for England and so then but then they he
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: could have he could have played for three different teams.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: Actually he could have played for Nigeria too, I think,
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: and he decided to play for the US. What are
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: you two doing them watching the end of this game?
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 7: We had we had we had a handball on them
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 7: to give South penalty.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: Driving crazy.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you ball, it doesn't matter if it's a
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: bouncing ball.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: He's watching.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 7: I'm telling you, if all the games had this amount
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 7: of scoring opportunities that both ends, I would watch a lot.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: Of the World Cup.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 9: Has the people that hate soccer, they saw one draw
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 9: one time and it just ruined it for them.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: Well, I have one time every game in the tournaments
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: draw it happens.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 8: Having watched, my feeling towards ties has evolved slightly, Like
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 8: I I realized that it's a unique thing to soccer.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 8: Of like you kind of survived at this point. There's
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 8: still like some value to surviving, but a win is
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 8: even bigger to get, you know, three points, and.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: If you're an underdock then tying is huge, like if
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: you're Cape verd and then tying.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: Is of getting a point. For tie, you should get minus,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: you should get negative for time.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 10: What do you get for a lot?
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: And then negative negative is zero loss of zero. But
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: for a tie you should be penalty that way, you
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: get so urgent at the end to score.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 9: Why wouldn't you just kick an on goal at the
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 9: end if you're not going to get penalized because for
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 9: a lot.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: That's true. That kind of killed that one.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: Right, all right, Well that's gonna be it for this
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: edition of Patriot's Unfiltered. We will be back tomorrow again
• 1:56:52
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• 1:56:55
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• 1:56:58
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• 1:57:03
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• 1:57:11
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