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Episode 266: First Strike (SG-A 3.20) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Speaker 1: Get into Gate episode two hundred and sixty six, Stocking
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Speaker 1: Stargate Atlantis.
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Speaker 2: Said that looks gonna be sixty nine.
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Speaker 3: Ah, we'll get there eventually.
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Speaker 1: The Gate team's here. I'm Mitch, he's Maddie. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: they get sixty nine jokes already. There's ten seconds in.
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Speaker 3: There's Brendan over there. Hey mate, I looked over him
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Speaker 3: like easy.
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Speaker 1: Got little Ray Charles over there, Black Sunny, just get
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Speaker 1: through the podcast in your face.
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Speaker 4: Happened here because he's about to give get some hard
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Speaker 4: rain coming on from one doctor Weir.
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Speaker 1: It's just going to go straight to getting some hard
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Speaker 1: Weir on him. But yeah, we'll get there eventually. The
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Speaker 1: finale of season three.
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Speaker 3: We're talking first strake.
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Speaker 1: Episode twenty of season three. Let's just dive straight into
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Speaker 1: the synopsis because it starts with dive into Adventure, which
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Speaker 1: I guess is not technically the part of the synopsis.
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Speaker 3: What does it say here?
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Speaker 1: I'm having to revert to the wonderful Great people to
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Speaker 1: add Amazon and the MGM add on to the subscription. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: dive into adventure as infinite as the universe itself. In
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Speaker 1: the third season of Stargate Atlantis, the team is shocked
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Speaker 1: when a satellite housing as Stargate takes up orbit above Atlantis.
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Speaker 1: When the stargate begins transmitting an energy beam attacking the city,
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Speaker 1: McKay takes a page from the ancients and opts to
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Speaker 1: sink Atlantis back.
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Speaker 3: Into the ocean.
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Speaker 5: Alert, wasn't it, Zealinka?
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Speaker 3: I think Zinka trying to point that out.
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Speaker 1: Kay's yeah, yeah, yeah, shut up now, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the previously on very replicator heavy, so I
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Speaker 1: knew what was coming my way being the first timer.
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Speaker 4: And yeah, back and then we finally, we finally arrived.
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Speaker 2: Mitchell.
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Speaker 4: We've been tickling your arms with a feather for the
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Speaker 4: last season and a half, Doctor Keller.
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Speaker 1: Oh that my first note, Doctor Keller. All of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: Jill Stagi. Yeah, by the way, I've been in the
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Speaker 1: background like this whole time and not a Wraith girl.
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Speaker 3: Yeah no, it just worked, mate.
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Speaker 1: I don't start me about this storyline that wrapped up
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Speaker 1: off screen. She got cured, she became, she got a
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Speaker 1: medical degree in the last two years, and now she's
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Speaker 1: paying back the favor by becoming under me.
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Speaker 6: So she the reason that we no longer have a
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Speaker 6: Scottish doctor because apparently, according to her, they asked her
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Speaker 6: to come back as the Wraith Girl and she said
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Speaker 6: she didn't want to do it with the makeup and job.
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Speaker 5: Jill, Well, we can.
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Speaker 1: Make you a doctor, but what we're going to do
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Speaker 1: is make you a doctor who doesn't want to be
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Speaker 1: the doctor stuff.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, which is interesting. So did they kill to bring her?
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Speaker 1: Wow?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Because remember that also was an element of Carson very
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Speaker 4: early on. Is remember when I was like, oh no,
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Speaker 4: I don't want to get in the chair and do things.
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Speaker 4: I'm very nervous because because you almost killed John and
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Speaker 4: Jack in the helicopter in the in Rising, So that
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Speaker 4: element kind of went away with him. So it's like,
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Speaker 4: I do kind of like the element of Yeah, it
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Speaker 4: feels true that it's like, you know, the Stargate program,
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Speaker 4: and he takes the best of the best of the best,
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Speaker 4: and it's like she's really really good. It's like just
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Speaker 4: because she's really good at what she does doesn't mean
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Speaker 4: she wants to have this responsibility.
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Speaker 2: And you know, she's socially.
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Speaker 4: Awkward and weird and doesn't necessarily want to be on
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Speaker 4: another planet responsible for the lives of all these people.
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Speaker 5: So it's kind of an interesting element.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that really caught me off guard, just sort of
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Speaker 1: seeing her, you know, because I obviously knew that she
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Speaker 1: was coming into the show, and I thought that's how
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Speaker 1: it started when you guys love I mean Riley, so
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Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, well, I know this is going
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Speaker 1: to end, and that two part it really didn't end
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Speaker 1: that way. But the fact that it was a sea
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Speaker 1: and finale and she gets introduced a was a surprise
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Speaker 1: and really like, up until when do we see her
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Speaker 1: very very close to the end when she comes in
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Speaker 1: to look after all the people after the explosure.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, she has a much bigger role in the opening
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Speaker 4: episode of season four because it's obviously all the triage
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Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff. From from the end
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Speaker 4: of the episode, it was just I think out of nowhere.
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Speaker 4: So they kind of set her up in this episode
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Speaker 4: to pay off her character we.
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Speaker 1: Up until that point, because somewhere in between her two
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Speaker 1: appearances in this episode, I thought, hang on, why was
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Speaker 1: she introduced because we haven't used it yet. Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: felt like it was too far gone in the episode
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Speaker 1: to just throw in another character that, you know, because
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Speaker 1: that's what these shows do. You don't get thirty minutes
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Speaker 1: in and go, oh, by the way, here's a character
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Speaker 1: that's going to come in and.
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Speaker 3: Like play a very pivotal role.
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Speaker 1: You're only paying off in that last ten minutes what's
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Speaker 1: been set up in the thirty beforehand, with the characters
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Speaker 1: that have been there. So yeah, yeah, it was not
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Speaker 1: nice to finally bring her in. I just yeah, I
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Speaker 1: was very surprised it was in a season it's funy
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Speaker 1: you say payoff.
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Speaker 4: Though, because it did quite a bit more than that.
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Speaker 4: Were expecting to have young Jennifer Keller on the show.
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Speaker 5: Oh now, this is.
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Speaker 7: A funny little one last visual effect. Yeah, you can't
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Speaker 7: notice it there, but that shot is a visual effect.
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Speaker 8: Hi.
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Speaker 7: Because I'm Canadian and I like Canadians a great deal,
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Speaker 7: and jeweles Canadian and has kind of a Canadian accent,
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Speaker 7: I put a Canadian patch on her shoulder, and Paul Mulley,
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Speaker 7: who's now the showrunner of season four, disagreed that she
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Speaker 7: should be Canadian basically, and I was like, oh, come on,
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Speaker 7: He's like, no, McKay's Canadian, Chuck's Canadian.
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Speaker 9: You can't have jewelry Canadian.
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Speaker 7: So at the very last minute I called we were
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Speaker 7: literally days away from airing our first international airing, and
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Speaker 7: I called Mark and I was like, hey, buddy, bad news.
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Speaker 7: I need you to wipe out a patch, and so Keller's.
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Speaker 2: Who is sorry, that's money.
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Speaker 1: I was just making sure again because like, okay, last
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Speaker 1: week it was like written by Cooper and I was
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Speaker 1: damnit and directed by Cooper, like damn it. And then
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Speaker 1: this one's thoughts it was like written by Giro if
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Speaker 1: you have it directed by Ghiro as well.
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Speaker 3: I am going to ride fifteen years too late.
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Speaker 2: Do you think I would be here right now?
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Speaker 3: It was the better Martin It was Martin Wood.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, fine, it was Martin Squared.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: But so Keller's shoulder patch because obviously in the first scene,
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Speaker 4: I don't think you see it, she's not wearing her
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Speaker 4: jacket with the patch on it.
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Speaker 5: From memory, she just.
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Speaker 3: Straight up sleeveless.
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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I mean I approve, but also, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I know, we're I know occasual Friday is a lot
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Speaker 1: on Atlantis because we're you know, we're in a little
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Speaker 1: a separate state, but.
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Speaker 4: Not missing Beckett so much anymore?
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Speaker 5: Are you? Mitchell ye states Instagram?
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Speaker 4: Yeahdays really dude, But yeah, so her should patch was
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Speaker 4: with C gild a C shoulder patch her flag.
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Speaker 5: Wow, I see did it really matter?
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Speaker 4: Apparently to Paul Mully did, yeah, too much Canadian? We
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Speaker 4: need to speak a mean, it's filmed in Canada as well,
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Speaker 4: God forbid, and you know it's it's bad enough that,
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Speaker 4: you know, Tory Higginson has one of the biggest Canadian
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Speaker 4: accents on the show and they make her wear a
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Speaker 4: US patch, so you.
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Speaker 5: Know, man, the tappings come through.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that we'd seen in McCain missus Miller where she's like,
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Speaker 4: oh you Canadian seeing Sorry you literally just said that.
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Speaker 3: Wow. I don't think over knew that.
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Speaker 2: What's that is?
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Speaker 3: Tapping? Tapping is Canadian?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, tapping, tapping in strengths and Canadians.
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Speaker 3: I know, I think I knew Shanks was. I don't
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Speaker 3: think I ever knew that tapping.
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Speaker 4: Them because I thought I thought Judge was Canadian as well,
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Speaker 4: because all three of them were kind of they you're
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Speaker 4: group together for the original Maybe and stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just the lasting memory of her being wrapped
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Speaker 1: in the American flag, separated from pretty being aligned with
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Speaker 1: any other nation that wrapped in a maple leaf?
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Speaker 3: Did you or maybe she did.
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Speaker 5: Maybe I'd like to be the American flag on that too.
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Speaker 1: It's a little leasy. He's already a lot of red
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Speaker 1: on there. It's it's fine, Michael Beach too. I remember
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Speaker 1: you teasing what the last Atlantis episode.
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Speaker 3: You're excited to have him coming along, And I've always
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Speaker 3: liked I.
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Speaker 5: Think that's Colonel Ellis Else.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of sash and he's got such a
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Speaker 1: presence about him. I've always really enjoyed him as an actor.
8:20
Speaker 1: I think my introduction to him was a show called
8:22
Speaker 1: Third Watch. Holy shit, that was a good show. That
8:25
Speaker 1: was a great show. Did you ever see Third Watch?
8:28
Speaker 3: Mattie. You're aware of that.
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Speaker 1: So it was like you get your cop procedur rules
8:31
Speaker 1: or you get your like your Chicago pds, and you
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Speaker 1: got Chicago Fire, Chicago med.
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Speaker 3: This was all three wrapped up in one.
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Speaker 1: It was Third Watch because you had your cops, you
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Speaker 1: had your ambos, and you had your fieries and it
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Speaker 1: would happened.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And was he the Honestly, he was the lead. I
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Speaker 3: was going to say that or the copper. He wasn't. No,
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Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not comfortable saying it now.
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Speaker 1: It's been twenty years so I watched that show, but
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Speaker 1: he said he was Actually that was so intense in that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah he is here, and that the early two thousand,
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Speaker 1: So he's actually at least five years older in this
9:04
Speaker 1: show than what he was on Third Watch. If you
9:06
Speaker 1: would have asked me gone the ma head, I would
9:07
Speaker 1: have said that he's younger here because he's I mean,
9:10
Speaker 1: just like we joke with Tea last week.
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Speaker 3: And he's very youthful like that crack mate. I mean,
9:13
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 1: He's got this great voice and you know some people
9:18
Speaker 1: look ridiculous and a stash, he looks amazing.
9:20
Speaker 4: The irony that you're sitting there marking out to first watch,
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Speaker 4: third watch, third watch when clearly this is this is
9:28
Speaker 4: Aquaman the prequel. You've got Michael Beach and Jason Momoa
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Speaker 4: meeting here before they are before they go on to
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Speaker 4: do Aquaman in Wow, fifteen years time.
9:39
Speaker 5: I haven't seen amen.
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Speaker 3: Oh so yes, he's I haven't seen it at all either.
9:42
Speaker 5: I've tried.
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Speaker 3: I realized the other day I still haven't seen the
9:45
Speaker 3: second one. It's available to watch.
9:47
Speaker 2: The other did not make it through minutes to go.
9:50
Speaker 1: It's bad work to do a separate, a separate I've
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Speaker 1: already got this awful movie marathon set Brendan that Maddie
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Speaker 1: is aware of. You've seen two of the movies that
9:59
Speaker 1: are part of my Yeah, two of the movies that
10:01
Speaker 1: are part of my four movie marathon. Aquaman's not one
10:03
Speaker 1: of them. Aquaman too. But I've got to do that
10:07
Speaker 1: to yourself.
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Speaker 3: Watch bad movies. Yeah, for that because him, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Because he has to watch them, whether they're good or bad.
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Speaker 3: I'll run through it quickly.
10:14
Speaker 1: Now I've never because one of them is definitely part
10:17
Speaker 1: of the MCU's seeing actual good ship. Yeah, I know,
10:20
Speaker 1: I know, I'll get to the end of my life.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
10:21
Speaker 4: He puts off him, he puts off watching good stuff
10:24
Speaker 4: so that he can try and find the time to
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Speaker 4: watch the four bad films. He can barely watch one film,
10:29
Speaker 4: but he's holding off to watch four bad films together.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of.
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Speaker 6: And he told me he watched Pulp Fiction, And then
10:33
Speaker 6: I learned that he hasn't seen like all of it.
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Speaker 4: I was only just talking about the scene there's really
10:38
Speaker 4: nothing else to watch us.
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Speaker 1: There, incorrect, But I've seen all of it, but I've
10:42
Speaker 1: never seen the movie start to finish in one sitting.
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Speaker 5: Because it's boring. No, it's not. It is.
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Speaker 1: We were just talking about the fact that Tarantino films
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Speaker 1: like they're full of their great scenes, especially those Revoir
10:54
Speaker 1: your pulp fiction, one of the last one exactly matter.
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Speaker 4: You know, the five dollar shake, the five dollars shake
11:01
Speaker 4: that leads into the adrenaline needle in the chest.
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Speaker 2: That's all you need to watch.
11:04
Speaker 5: That you done.
11:05
Speaker 6: There's two diners, the robbery at the start.
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Speaker 4: Obviously you want the Uma Thurman John travolt scenes. Yeah,
11:12
Speaker 4: that's pretty good, and the dance that's iconic. But yeah,
11:16
Speaker 4: that's all you want.
11:16
Speaker 2: You just need to watch.
11:17
Speaker 4: You need to watch up until the point where the
11:19
Speaker 4: needle goes in the chest, and then you can turn
11:21
Speaker 4: the movie off.
11:21
Speaker 5: It's done.
11:22
Speaker 2: Same as Captain America First Avenger.
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Speaker 4: You watch everything up until the point where he runs
11:26
Speaker 4: down the street and chases the guy into the submarine,
11:29
Speaker 4: and then you can turn that movie.
11:30
Speaker 5: What if you got against bloody the next bit?
11:34
Speaker 6: Bruce Willis, it's boring, gets asked the pretty.
11:39
Speaker 2: I mean that's the Thursday night for me. That's boring.
11:44
Speaker 1: Train Michael Beach of Just there's a third Watch fandom
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Speaker 1: wiki page. He played Monty Doc Parker. He was a paramedic,
11:52
Speaker 1: so I said he was either a or a part
11:53
Speaker 1: of the well, he's a paramedic in the New York
11:55
Speaker 1: City Fire Department. Yes, but I said he was either
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Speaker 1: an actual firefighter or an actual cop.
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Speaker 3: He was part of.
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Speaker 4: It's weed In America, they don't kind of have ambulance
12:02
Speaker 4: guys being their own kind of thing. They're always like
12:05
Speaker 4: part of the part of the firefighter. Because I watch
12:07
Speaker 4: My My Guilty Pleasure is lone Star nine to one
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Speaker 4: one with Rob Low, he plays a firefighter.
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Speaker 1: You I've only seen one scene from that show where
12:17
Speaker 1: the guy goes in. Does he goe to like an
12:18
Speaker 1: ice chamber or something to like get like where you're
12:21
Speaker 1: the treatment where you cool down your body or something.
12:23
Speaker 1: Something goes wrong and he basically think he's dead. They
12:26
Speaker 1: bring him out and he's like very stiff because he's
12:28
Speaker 1: been you know, circulating in like you know the ship
12:31
Speaker 1: from Tea what a nitrous what's the ship from T
12:34
Speaker 1: two that freezes the team something like that? Right, They
12:37
Speaker 1: put him on the ground. Yeah, they go down to
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Speaker 1: do chest compressions. They pushed through his chest. He's nice
12:45
Speaker 1: and they like completely like break his body open.
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Speaker 3: And they're like, oh, I think he's dead. It's like
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Speaker 3: his chest is in half. Yes, he's dead.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It's like season two or three of that show, and
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I think I'm all right.
12:56
Speaker 4: There's a great one in like one of the first
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Speaker 4: couple of episodes where this little old lady makes a
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Speaker 4: nuisance call to the fire fight and she's like, she's like,
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Speaker 4: she's this little white lady arguing with like her her
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Speaker 4: Mexican neighbor over the something along the fence line, and
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Speaker 4: then she realizes she's losing when everyone like doesn't agree
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Speaker 4: with her, so she like fakes a heart attack and
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Speaker 4: he's like and then so, well, we've got to bring
13:16
Speaker 4: over this large black man to to give you mouth
13:21
Speaker 4: to mouth. She's like, no, I think I'm fine. What
13:23
Speaker 4: about this gentleman? He goes, well, I'm gay, And then
13:25
Speaker 4: the other one's like, well, well I'm a Muslim. So like
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Speaker 4: this poor, like racist white lady just can't win, and she.
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Speaker 1: Just shows this is this is a loan stie this
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Speaker 1: one too. Actually, that's very good. It would have done
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Speaker 1: the rounds on Twitter or some ship.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think I've seen that. Yeah, how racist? Are you
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Speaker 1: really like, Yeah, where does it? Where do you draw
13:41
Speaker 1: the line?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: But yeah, so Colonel Ellis, look, I'm going to get
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Speaker 4: I'm going to get into it later because he gets
13:50
Speaker 4: he gets his ass headed to him, which I can't wait.
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Speaker 2: But we have to we have to get through all
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Speaker 2: the preamble of him being a dick. Weir, So let's
13:58
Speaker 2: just yo.
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Speaker 5: Let's let's just.
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Speaker 2: One number one.
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Speaker 3: He started.
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Speaker 2: He started.
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Speaker 7: Actually, you know, we'd all all our military guys seem
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Speaker 7: to always be like, oh that that Colonel Shepherd.
14:10
Speaker 9: You know, he's he's always out of line. So we
14:13
Speaker 9: thought it'd be an interesting thing. You know.
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Speaker 7: One of the things we wanted to do with the
14:16
Speaker 7: arc is obviously can I say what we're doing with
14:19
Speaker 7: Weird next season?
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Speaker 9: No? When is this?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 9: Probably not.
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Speaker 4: So it had a lot to do with we are
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Speaker 4: feeling not good.
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Speaker 7: So uh so and unwelcome by the military, and so
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Speaker 7: I thought would be in nice Swisses if he actually
14:35
Speaker 7: didn't like Weird and really liked Shepherd and he's kind
14:39
Speaker 7: of no nonsense, and you know, there's one of my
14:40
Speaker 7: favorite scene with him is kind of when they're talking
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Speaker 7: about she's kind of protesting the plan that he's about
14:45
Speaker 7: to outline for you, and he just goes, it's.
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Speaker 9: Not worth talking about.
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Speaker 7: You know, I don't like you, well, but it's not
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Speaker 7: even like like it doesn't matter like you.
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Speaker 9: You're not my superior and I have my orders.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I agree with that he's a dick, but he's not
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Speaker 4: wrong in that scene.
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Speaker 2: He's just rude and disrespectful.
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Speaker 5: We don't have time. I need your people up there now.
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Speaker 1: See.
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Speaker 6: I thought we, me and you Elizabeth have our orders. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: why are we talking about it?
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Speaker 5: Yeah? I don't talk to my colonels, my other colonels about.
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Speaker 3: What was everybody okay with this?
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Speaker 4: He was, I think is one of wheople. He doesn't
15:22
Speaker 4: have the authority to do that.
15:24
Speaker 2: They needed Macas.
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Speaker 5: Does have the authority from the IOWA.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also like he's just a dick.
15:30
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a protocol about it.
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Speaker 2: So I guess I guess we should play play the first.
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Speaker 4: Part anyway, just so we can sort of you know,
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Speaker 4: everyone knows what we're talking about.
15:36
Speaker 10: This mission is a mistake, and most certainly isn't that
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Speaker 10: it is an ineffectual first strike. You gotta know how
15:43
Speaker 10: dangerous that could be for us.
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Speaker 11: I'll due respect, doctor, it won't be ineffectual. Besides the
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Speaker 11: ioway it doesn't think we can wait.
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Speaker 10: I think we should stole them, try to open around
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Speaker 10: a negotiation.
15:54
Speaker 9: They're a weapon, trying to keep that in mind. Weapon
15:57
Speaker 9: are not They're sentient. Negotiating with them.
15:59
Speaker 10: Could has enough time to get the PW air W.
16:02
Speaker 9: Up and running.
16:03
Speaker 11: Usually I'd be more than happy to go twelve rounds
16:06
Speaker 11: here about.
16:06
Speaker 9: Who's right and who's wrong. But it wouldn't matter.
16:09
Speaker 11: I have my orders and you don't have the authority
16:11
Speaker 11: to tell me to stand down. So again, with all
16:13
Speaker 11: due respect, ma'am, I have a mission to execute.
16:18
Speaker 6: Yeah he's and that's the thing. He's in charge of
16:20
Speaker 6: this mission. Yeah, he would not be talking to people.
16:24
Speaker 6: He'd be like, this is what needs to happen. I
16:25
Speaker 6: need it done now.
16:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I've got orders from above.
16:28
Speaker 2: If anything, I.
16:29
Speaker 4: Think I think the failure comes in the IOA in
16:33
Speaker 4: that they didn't brief Elizabeth.
16:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, she should have.
16:37
Speaker 4: Known that he was on his way, this was the plan,
16:40
Speaker 4: all that, But they knew that she would kick up
16:43
Speaker 4: a stink and go no, no, this is the wrong thing,
16:45
Speaker 4: so they they went around her.
16:47
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's what caused.
16:48
Speaker 3: The would they have told her if she was a man?
16:52
Speaker 4: Well know what I'm saying, that's what caused the tension
16:55
Speaker 4: between Ellis and wea is because we as playing catch
16:58
Speaker 4: up and she's like, well, I'm getting charge. I'm I'm
17:01
Speaker 4: I'm in charge of the well being of these people
17:03
Speaker 4: and what happens in this galaxy as far as humans
17:05
Speaker 4: are concerned. She should have been part of the conversation,
17:08
Speaker 4: but the Ioway knew that she would have issues with it,
17:12
Speaker 4: so they We're just going to keep her out of it.
17:13
Speaker 4: We'll get Elis do his thing, so I don't silly. Yeah, yeah,
17:18
Speaker 4: so I don't.
17:18
Speaker 3: I don't.
17:18
Speaker 4: I mean Ellis he does sort of. He gets his
17:21
Speaker 4: come up anti later, so I forgive him for being
17:22
Speaker 4: a dick upfront. But yeah, to me, it was the
17:25
Speaker 4: Ioway not keeping Elizabeth in the loop. And I think
17:27
Speaker 4: that ties into what you were saying earlier this season
17:30
Speaker 4: about the Iowa being very, very critical and all the
17:32
Speaker 4: mistakes that quote unquot mistakes Elizabeth made along the way
17:37
Speaker 4: that the Ioway you know, rubber stamped every single step
17:40
Speaker 4: of the way after it.
17:41
Speaker 2: But now they've decided that.
17:42
Speaker 5: Didn't you know she wouldn't report back to them. She did.
17:45
Speaker 4: We've we've we've litigated this many times. Listened to the
17:48
Speaker 4: episode and.
17:49
Speaker 5: It'll be there.
17:50
Speaker 1: But I saw the episode, see I thought, because yet
17:54
Speaker 1: not told and just how like, Hey, we've got to
17:56
Speaker 1: do this.
17:57
Speaker 3: We haven't got a lot of time.
17:58
Speaker 1: I'm like, am I so is this a seed here
18:01
Speaker 1: that I'm going to look back on later that you've
18:02
Speaker 1: planted where he was gone roe, he'd gone rogue, So
18:06
Speaker 1: maybe he's part of some missions like that. That's what
18:08
Speaker 1: they're supposed to do. Go back every now and again,
18:10
Speaker 1: check progress on the planet. He has doing his own
18:13
Speaker 1: reports back to base wherever, back to Earth going they're
18:16
Speaker 1: building some shit and they're like, okay, yeah, just keep
18:19
Speaker 1: an eye on them. He's like, you don't understand how
18:21
Speaker 1: quick they're building. They're putting together weapons, whatever it was.
18:23
Speaker 1: And they're like, please, hold, we're not going to do
18:26
Speaker 1: anything yet. We'll assess it further next week or something.
18:29
Speaker 1: And he's went enough that I've got to blow these
18:32
Speaker 1: people up. Let's go to Atlantis. They don't know about
18:35
Speaker 1: these reports that I'm making. They don't know all the details.
18:37
Speaker 1: They don't know that Earth has told me to hold tight.
18:41
Speaker 1: I'll get them involved to go tell them that doom
18:45
Speaker 1: is pending. We're going to go and blow these people up,
18:48
Speaker 1: and I'll just you know, ask for forgiveness later or
18:50
Speaker 1: get court martialed in jailed, knowing that I've saved Earth
18:54
Speaker 1: because these people are going to come and find us.
18:56
Speaker 1: I thought that's where this episode was going to end,
18:59
Speaker 1: that he was not under orders, that he'd gone rogue.
19:03
Speaker 1: And I think very quickly I forgot about that, like
19:05
Speaker 1: the very next scene or the second scene that came
19:08
Speaker 1: after it, whatever context.
19:10
Speaker 3: You know.
19:10
Speaker 1: However, he was speaking sort of you know, calm down,
19:13
Speaker 1: those those thoughts. But I just thought he was just
19:15
Speaker 1: coming in so hard from the beginning, rough around the edges, Yeah,
19:19
Speaker 1: which I do appreciate.
19:20
Speaker 5: Resurgent.
19:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was right, Like he's right in the
19:23
Speaker 1: sense that whether or not he was rude or not,
19:25
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, we're wasting time here, let's go.
19:28
Speaker 3: We've got orders.
19:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm following them.
19:31
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
19:32
Speaker 4: Everything everything he said in that in that thing I
19:34
Speaker 4: just played was valid. He's like, you don't have the
19:36
Speaker 4: authority to really, I'm on the direct orders from the IOWAY.
19:39
Speaker 4: We both work for the IOWA I'm doing this. Like
19:42
Speaker 4: I said, I just think the Ioway was the one
19:43
Speaker 4: that was in the wrong to do it.
19:45
Speaker 3: But in class, just a bit of communication, guys, you know.
19:48
Speaker 5: But in classic, in classic, okay.
19:54
Speaker 3: I'm not really ready.
19:57
Speaker 4: And then I love that later on he gets his
20:00
Speaker 4: our own little back at Ellis.
20:02
Speaker 9: This city has encountered problems like this before.
20:04
Speaker 11: So I don't need the history of your idea, doctor.
20:07
Speaker 11: I'll let that be a surprise when I read your autobiography.
20:10
Speaker 5: Christ tell me the plan I had to rewind it submerged.
20:14
Speaker 9: I'm sorry we submerged the city. I thought you said
20:18
Speaker 9: we couldn't submerge the city.
20:20
Speaker 8: That was two years ago before the ancients came and
20:22
Speaker 8: activated a number of new systems.
20:23
Speaker 9: See how is complicated. I don't think it's possible. Look,
20:26
Speaker 9: it's not a permanent solution. But why it's enough time
20:29
Speaker 9: to come up with one? Exactly how much time? As
20:33
Speaker 9: much as a week? I don't understand why. You See
20:36
Speaker 9: the history part would have made that a lot clearer.
20:37
Speaker 4: Had you been a little more patient, I would have painted.
20:39
Speaker 9: You a picture of k Okay, all right, beauted Doune.
20:44
Speaker 9: I don't think that's your.
20:45
Speaker 4: Call, and it looks over him to Elizabeth, And.
20:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was great.
20:53
Speaker 1: I like, I like the idea just one of the
20:55
Speaker 1: thing before that when he gets bamed out without knowing
20:58
Speaker 1: that when he beams to where he arrives where he's
21:01
Speaker 1: beaming too. And I know we've said the science of it,
21:04
Speaker 1: like they can be sitting or laying down and when
21:06
Speaker 1: they get to somewhere they're standing. But I like the
21:07
Speaker 1: idea that he gets beamed out not knowing he was
21:09
Speaker 1: going to beamed out to a place he didn't give
21:11
Speaker 1: a permission to go to, and he lands in a
21:13
Speaker 1: place where he's supposed to be standing, but he's in
21:15
Speaker 1: a seated position.
21:16
Speaker 3: So not only does he all of.
21:17
Speaker 1: A sudden the peer in somewhere he had no idy
21:19
Speaker 1: he was going to, but he actually falls down on
21:21
Speaker 1: his ass when he gets there.
21:21
Speaker 3: It well, but that was great. There were so many
21:24
Speaker 3: and I'm.
21:24
Speaker 1: Looking like, yeah, he was right, like I was to say, beach,
21:27
Speaker 1: but Colonel was so Colonel was so right to go, dude,
21:32
Speaker 1: I don't need the details. Okay, word economy, keep it tight,
21:36
Speaker 1: just tell me what. But also McKay was going, hey,
21:39
Speaker 1: you need this context, so shut the hell up.
21:41
Speaker 6: Yeah, if it's because Ellis let himself open to it
21:45
Speaker 6: as well as the top one.
21:46
Speaker 4: And I think it's great because obviously so basically I
21:50
Speaker 4: mentioned it. A couple of episodes ago, Mitch Peleggi got
21:53
Speaker 4: cast in another show as like regular, so he was unavailable.
21:56
Speaker 2: That's why we haven't seen.
21:57
Speaker 4: Him for a while, right, Yeah, this could have easily Yeah,
22:00
Speaker 4: this episode was originally going to be.
22:01
Speaker 2: Of course, what's his character in.
22:03
Speaker 5: This Colonel Simmons, We've.
22:08
Speaker 3: Got how much?
22:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, But anyway, Mitch Pleggy's character, Colonel Caldwell cold Wes
22:15
Speaker 4: col Well cold Well was originally written to be in
22:18
Speaker 4: this episode, but he was unavailable, so they created Colonel
22:22
Speaker 4: Ellis and his ship, the Apollo. They just went, well,
22:25
Speaker 4: we've got we've got another Daalist class ship now, the Apollo,
22:28
Speaker 4: because we can't we can't take cold Well off the
22:30
Speaker 4: Daedalus and place. So the Daedalist is just doing its
22:34
Speaker 4: own thing and the Apollo was specially done for this mission.
22:38
Speaker 4: So I like the idea that, you know, yeah, now
22:40
Speaker 4: you have someone who because Caldwell and Weir had their
22:44
Speaker 4: own kind of back and forward up until the point
22:46
Speaker 4: you've found out that he was a he was a
22:48
Speaker 4: old and now they just their buddy buddy, their their
22:51
Speaker 4: their pals again. So I do like the conflict between
22:55
Speaker 4: were and the military, and making ellis kind of the
22:58
Speaker 4: face man of that.
22:59
Speaker 5: I think I really enjoy.
23:00
Speaker 4: But what I loved more than anything, obviously was his
23:03
Speaker 4: getting his come up and said he will and truly deserved.
23:06
Speaker 9: Why would you want to contact them to negotiate. It's
23:10
Speaker 9: a waste of energy. We need to figure out how
23:12
Speaker 9: to destroy it.
23:13
Speaker 10: I'd love to go twelve rounds here about who's right
23:15
Speaker 10: and who's wrong. But at the end of the day,
23:17
Speaker 10: I'm responsible for the well being of the city and
23:19
Speaker 10: you don't have the authority to tell me to stand down.
23:23
Speaker 7: All due respect, We'll forever beat it, beat it.
23:33
Speaker 12: I'm a stavish CLASSICUSI wretch classy les acn stupid.
23:41
Speaker 3: When that started.
23:53
Speaker 4: And just because just because I can't, just because I can,
23:55
Speaker 4: I got another version.
23:56
Speaker 5: For memorized it, like so ridiculoush.
24:00
Speaker 1: Just like that Bobby Bouchet moment when he goes, your
24:02
Speaker 1: mama blah blah, blade is sixty two, Like that was
24:05
Speaker 1: there when she goes I'd love to go twelve rounds
24:07
Speaker 1: with you here and She's like, twelve rounds, remember everything. Yeah,
24:12
Speaker 1: I'm going to repeat this back to and went for word.
24:14
Speaker 3: Gatorade sucks and.
24:16
Speaker 2: Just because I can Mitchell playing them at twelve for
24:18
Speaker 2: me places, just.
24:19
Speaker 9: Because just because you want to contact them to negotiate.
24:23
Speaker 9: It's a waste of energy. We need to figure out
24:25
Speaker 9: how to destroy it.
24:26
Speaker 10: I'd love to go twelve rounds here about who's right
24:29
Speaker 10: and who's wrong. But at the end of the day,
24:30
Speaker 10: I'm responsible for the well being of the city and
24:33
Speaker 10: you don't have the authority to tell me to stand down.
24:35
Speaker 2: Yo, insane.
24:46
Speaker 3: What you just said. I know all of those words
24:49
Speaker 3: with that sentence makes no sense.
24:52
Speaker 4: The lyrics are great for this, so I said, it's
24:59
Speaker 4: not big.
25:01
Speaker 9: The window.
25:04
Speaker 5: Standing undergrass and to your mustache.
25:09
Speaker 1: Just like to point out that that song was provided
25:10
Speaker 1: by the feminists of the group very much.
25:13
Speaker 5: That was him in the ass. That's what that was
25:16
Speaker 5: with Ellis in the art, and that's.
25:18
Speaker 3: Why song said. That's not how rappers to it.
25:22
Speaker 4: It is because of the end, because of the end there,
25:25
Speaker 4: it's the pulled off the condo, inflicted and stuck to
25:28
Speaker 4: his mustache, Ellis's mustache.
25:31
Speaker 5: That's why I left that video mustache.
25:34
Speaker 2: You're welcome, guys, You're welcome.
25:37
Speaker 4: I think that might be why I love this episode
25:38
Speaker 4: so much. Well, no, that's a lie, because all like
25:41
Speaker 4: the we haven't gone to it, like the satellite and
25:43
Speaker 4: the Bean satellite, because it's it's like what Anubis did
25:50
Speaker 4: back in like season six of SG one, but it's
25:53
Speaker 4: just like died up to eleven. Like now it's like
25:56
Speaker 4: in a stargate that like the warps like what do
25:59
Speaker 4: you call it? Hyperdrives here and then dials Like that's.
26:03
Speaker 1: Just there was just so many cool things in this episode,
26:08
Speaker 1: like even just the way that I mean seeing the
26:11
Speaker 1: city sink into the water and like obviously you just
26:13
Speaker 1: see the rising sort of blue wall as it's around
26:15
Speaker 1: the shield, but then also them coming back out of
26:17
Speaker 1: the water, the ships attaching themselves to that asteroid and
26:21
Speaker 1: they redirect it like just a lot.
26:23
Speaker 6: Of literally wild sci fi stuff on the bottom of
26:26
Speaker 6: the ocean into space.
26:27
Speaker 5: That city went yeah, yeah.
26:30
Speaker 3: And then like in a wormhole like it just like
26:32
Speaker 3: what what what a couple of minutes?
26:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah, you talked about the asteroid.
26:38
Speaker 9: You want to bring an asteroid towards us as that
26:42
Speaker 9: today it is I feel like that.
26:44
Speaker 2: That's the epitome of Atlantis.
26:46
Speaker 4: It's like, we're gonna do something really dumb because today.
26:50
Speaker 5: Up there and shoot at it.
26:53
Speaker 2: Didn't he tried?
26:54
Speaker 4: And remember when when it first when it first appeared, Yeah,
26:59
Speaker 4: the energy was sustaining the shield.
27:02
Speaker 6: They should have shot it as soon as it came
27:04
Speaker 6: into it. Yeah, they should be with everything.
27:07
Speaker 5: Another reason why Ellis was you know, ye, if it's
27:10
Speaker 5: in orbit, can shoot it.
27:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, because there should be you should be out way
27:15
Speaker 6: out sending us like a beacons.
27:18
Speaker 4: But I love the fact that we spoke about a
27:20
Speaker 4: few weeks ago with submersionment with the drilling platform, and
27:24
Speaker 4: it's like that comes back in this episode because they
27:27
Speaker 4: use that to give them the power they need to
27:29
Speaker 4: be able to actually take off, like the ZPM they
27:31
Speaker 4: have isn't enough. So like I love that, and it's
27:35
Speaker 4: what I was talking about with that and the Flaggersalis
27:37
Speaker 4: episode where it's like I love all the historyonics of
27:41
Speaker 4: this planet.
27:42
Speaker 2: So that's I think.
27:43
Speaker 4: What is a bit of a downside for me moving
27:45
Speaker 4: forward into into season four is we leave this planet
27:49
Speaker 4: and we're done.
27:49
Speaker 2: We're done. We're done with that planet now, so we
27:52
Speaker 2: lose I was.
27:53
Speaker 5: Wonderings of the Mainland. I don't know, Like I don't
27:58
Speaker 5: care he did.
28:01
Speaker 2: Did we move them to another planet?
28:02
Speaker 4: But remember when remember when the ancients came back in
28:05
Speaker 4: the return, did we permanently move them somewhere else?
28:08
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was the point of that two weeks hole
28:12
Speaker 6: that two weeks Yeah, it just to Earth and they're like, yeah,
28:15
Speaker 6: they're just waiting through the ethersions to get out.
28:18
Speaker 5: And then O'Neil and Woolvey there.
28:20
Speaker 1: It would have been nice if that beam was still
28:21
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it was still just like attacking, thinking
28:24
Speaker 1: that the city was down there. And then we you know,
28:27
Speaker 1: come back post credits and it's just old mate with
28:29
Speaker 1: the stupid son and he's just sitting there just like
28:31
Speaker 1: farming on the mainland is you're getting hot in here,
28:34
Speaker 1: and like that's it. You know, they're about to like
28:36
Speaker 1: fully just death start this planet.
28:37
Speaker 5: See the beam from space coming into.
28:41
Speaker 3: Could have been could have been the Force awakens, before
28:43
Speaker 3: the Force awakens.
28:44
Speaker 6: I think when they were lowering the city, they should
28:46
Speaker 6: have gone and see if they can adjust the left,
28:49
Speaker 6: like move the city to the left in case the
28:51
Speaker 6: beam is just aimed.
28:52
Speaker 1: So I was I'm like, surely it's like it's it's targeted.
28:56
Speaker 1: There's some kind of targeted thing, because otherwise, how is
28:58
Speaker 1: that not part of your plan? Yeah, just move away
29:01
Speaker 1: a little bit, guys, you know, just a little to left,
29:03
Speaker 1: because yeah, they did.
29:04
Speaker 4: They sort of have that line where they said, nowhere
29:06
Speaker 4: on the face of this planet, it can't it can
29:09
Speaker 4: it not get us?
29:10
Speaker 5: Whatever?
29:11
Speaker 4: But yeah, you'd also obviously think that like, well, there'd
29:14
Speaker 4: be different depths in the ocean as well. It looks
29:16
Speaker 4: much like in a thing. Yeah, I mean maybe even
29:19
Speaker 4: further ways down to go or something like that.
29:22
Speaker 6: Yeah, I watched this like a few weeks ago, so
29:25
Speaker 6: I did have an audio grab here and I can't
29:27
Speaker 6: remember what it was for, but so I'm just going
29:29
Speaker 6: to play it.
29:29
Speaker 5: It's just on the phone. So this is just after
29:33
Speaker 5: the briefing after Rodney got beamed up.
29:41
Speaker 9: Can you believe us? It seems too good to be true?
29:48
Speaker 9: What do you think those nukes do? What tell Us
29:52
Speaker 9: says they do.
29:53
Speaker 10: Since we wand back the city, we haven't heard so
29:56
Speaker 10: much as a peep from the replicators. Obviously they haven't
29:59
Speaker 10: gone away, no, but maybe they've decided that we are
30:02
Speaker 10: more trouble than are worth. The threat of our er
30:04
Speaker 10: weapons is enough to keep them at bay.
30:08
Speaker 9: Don't building many ships to make a run and the layers.
30:13
Speaker 1: For us.
30:16
Speaker 6: So I didn't really I get. I didn't really get
30:20
Speaker 6: the whole idea of can you believe this? It's like, well, what,
30:23
Speaker 6: you don't have an alternate apart from maybe going to
30:26
Speaker 6: talk to them might buy you some time. They have
30:32
Speaker 6: to act if if they're going to Earth, they need
30:35
Speaker 6: to destroy them. They need to stop. Absolutely, So I
30:38
Speaker 6: don't see how talking to them is going to is
30:41
Speaker 6: gonna change their mind their machines. Well, because we've betrayed them.
30:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, but old mate. Until we betrayed old mate, he
30:48
Speaker 4: was on our side. Remember the blond dude that was
30:51
Speaker 4: rolling like in space, rolling around in space whatever his
30:54
Speaker 4: name was, We managed to talk him around.
30:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's it's over ofth That really was
30:58
Speaker 5: the problem.
30:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's but over us. It's not dead, So
31:02
Speaker 4: that's the problem. No, Yeah, that's a problem.
31:04
Speaker 11: No.
31:04
Speaker 3: I agree.
31:05
Speaker 4: Like I said, I think I think everything that Ella's
31:09
Speaker 4: did was the right move, Like the first strike was
31:11
Speaker 4: the right move. I think the problem was is, like
31:14
Speaker 4: I said, like we're not being in on it, like
31:16
Speaker 4: to do something so big and and the end of
31:19
Speaker 4: the day, like the end of this episode, Weir was
31:21
Speaker 4: right because gotting back for talking shit. No no, but
31:26
Speaker 4: I just mean, like she should have been involved in
31:28
Speaker 4: the conversation of this, Like the whole reason the the
31:33
Speaker 4: replicators are on our radar is because of Atlantis, and
31:36
Speaker 4: she's in charge of Atlantis. So the repercussions of the
31:40
Speaker 4: first strike on Atlanta on the replicators, she should.
31:44
Speaker 5: Have been aware of that because she should have had
31:45
Speaker 5: the intel.
31:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, she would have been able to provide them with
31:47
Speaker 4: her saying well, if you do this, here's what the
31:50
Speaker 4: potential repercussions could be.
31:52
Speaker 5: And it's like and put this into your judgment.
31:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, or you know, it could have been something as
31:56
Speaker 4: simple as her saying, hey, look what you're doing here,
31:58
Speaker 4: and she said it, she said, it's an ineffectual first strike,
32:01
Speaker 4: and it was because Loo, look at what happened to
32:05
Speaker 4: Atlantis by the end of this episode, there they're bleeding
32:08
Speaker 4: out energy, floating through space, lost, not knowing where they
32:11
Speaker 4: are because of the retaliation from the first strike. If
32:17
Speaker 4: they had just waited maybe another month until the Daedalus
32:20
Speaker 4: was there as well, or they could have built another
32:22
Speaker 4: horizon or whatever, and they could have actually wiped them
32:26
Speaker 4: out all like she said, wait for the planetary wide
32:28
Speaker 4: anti mothercated weapons that would have solved the issue. But
32:32
Speaker 4: they were in too much of a rah. She was
32:34
Speaker 4: an ineffectual first strike, and then Elizabeth was the one
32:36
Speaker 4: that paid the price, you know, and Atlantis paid the
32:39
Speaker 4: price in the damage that was done and all the
32:42
Speaker 4: deaths that were you know, solely on the on the
32:44
Speaker 4: responsibility of the IOWA.
32:46
Speaker 2: So it was a hard lesson to learn.
32:48
Speaker 4: But yeah, I stand behind Elizabeth one in this episode,
32:52
Speaker 4: except for when she was falling backwards from the glass.
32:56
Speaker 2: I don't want to stand behind her there.
32:57
Speaker 1: But yeah, blown across the road as a good fall,
33:03
Speaker 1: and how high up were that at that point, like
33:06
Speaker 1: like he were in the eyes, she'd suck out space.
33:08
Speaker 4: It probably wasn't the smartest So do you have for
33:09
Speaker 4: her to go and stand by the giant wall of
33:11
Speaker 4: glass as they were doing that. But actually, in the
33:15
Speaker 4: bonus features for the episode, the reason you don't actually
33:19
Speaker 4: see Weir slashed the stunt woman land with that wire
33:23
Speaker 4: gag they did is because the explosion thing was like
33:27
Speaker 4: more intense than what they thought, so the glass actually
33:33
Speaker 4: passed the stunt woman who was wearing like a fake
33:36
Speaker 4: plexiglass thing to put her face, passed her and landed
33:40
Speaker 4: on the mat before she did.
33:42
Speaker 5: So if she didn't, they use sugar glass.
33:45
Speaker 2: That's what I thought, But maybe maybe it was other
33:47
Speaker 2: debris or something like that. I don't know.
33:49
Speaker 4: But if she'd have landed on that mat, she'd have
33:53
Speaker 4: gotten really injured, Like the stunt wom would have gotten
33:55
Speaker 4: really badly injured. So what happened is when all that
33:58
Speaker 4: debris landed on the mat, the guy working the wire
34:00
Speaker 4: saw that acted instinctally and just like pulled the wire,
34:04
Speaker 4: so she never the actress actually never hit in the ground,
34:07
Speaker 4: and that's why.
34:08
Speaker 2: You never actually see weird. I think it's a cool,
34:11
Speaker 2: super cool, super super cool.
34:13
Speaker 5: And just the fact that you didn't see a land
34:15
Speaker 5: was it. I think it was better.
34:16
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, And just that whole moment I think was great
34:19
Speaker 4: because it was just you know, it was just that
34:20
Speaker 4: cluster of stuff and it's like, if that asteroid hadn't
34:23
Speaker 4: broken apart, that extra second lander wouldn't have been a problem, you.
34:26
Speaker 5: Know, the.
34:29
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, really ruining it for them. Yeah, And like
34:34
Speaker 1: because I feel like I was surprised, I must have
34:37
Speaker 1: missed something. I was convinced I'd miss something because when
34:40
Speaker 1: they they're bringing along the asteroids, like I was just
34:42
Speaker 1: gonna get in the way on the beam, and I'm like, well,
34:44
Speaker 1: you're not going to just try And I thought they
34:45
Speaker 1: were going to use the asteroid to try and knock.
34:48
Speaker 3: The I don't know what. I don't know what the
34:50
Speaker 3: effects hit the satellite gate situation.
34:54
Speaker 1: Then when they didn't, and it was just like moving
34:56
Speaker 1: so slowly, Okay, it's in the way, And I'm like, well,
34:58
Speaker 1: if that thing's gonna blow up a city, surely it's
35:00
Speaker 1: going to do away with a little asteroid really quickly.
35:03
Speaker 3: But even if it's not going to destroy it, it
35:05
Speaker 3: is not going to like push it out of the way.
35:07
Speaker 1: Essentially the amount of forced the amount of break, but instead,
35:09
Speaker 1: like the astroid just kept going sideways like it's it's.
35:12
Speaker 5: Move towards where the beam's going.
35:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, someone someone on the in the like Goose you
35:19
Speaker 4: know trivia section on one of the websites, you know,
35:21
Speaker 4: had issue with the way that you know, the beam
35:23
Speaker 4: was cutting through the asteroid and the asteroid should have
35:25
Speaker 4: been pushed towards the planet and stuff like that, and
35:27
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, yeah, but we don't know what that
35:30
Speaker 4: magical beam coming out of a you know, artificial wormhole
35:34
Speaker 4: floating in space is actually made of like a lot
35:36
Speaker 4: of people that you look at cyclops and a lot
35:38
Speaker 4: of people don't realize that cyclops as eyebeams. There's no
35:40
Speaker 4: heat or laser there. It's a concussive blast. So it's like,
35:44
Speaker 4: we don't know what this magical red beam is made of.
35:47
Speaker 4: So it feels a little bit weird to sort of go. Well,
35:49
Speaker 4: in the real world, that's not how it would cut
35:51
Speaker 4: through an asteroid that we've pushed through.
35:54
Speaker 5: With our alien gliders.
35:55
Speaker 4: Yeah.
35:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like it would push through the rock,
35:58
Speaker 6: would start going towards planet, and then it would just
36:01
Speaker 6: dig a hole through it.
36:03
Speaker 5: Burrow, yeah, burrow through tunnel.
36:06
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, No, I agree with Mitch.
36:07
Speaker 4: The first time I watched this episode, I actually thought
36:09
Speaker 4: what they were going to do was like hurl the
36:11
Speaker 4: asteroid at the stargate, so it pushed the beam away
36:15
Speaker 4: from the planet to give them enough time to get up,
36:17
Speaker 4: like the beam just wasn't there not to actually block it.
36:21
Speaker 4: But then again, that beam is going to just golf
36:23
Speaker 4: infinitely into space.
36:24
Speaker 1: And planet they thought that they could move it and
36:27
Speaker 1: go and send up the X whatever is to like
36:30
Speaker 1: attach them anchor themselves to that and try and fly
36:33
Speaker 1: it away.
36:33
Speaker 2: Oh that's a cool it, it could do that.
36:35
Speaker 1: It doesn't work. Let's get an asteroid and throw it
36:37
Speaker 1: into it. Or Yeah, like I think that would have
36:39
Speaker 1: been an interesting thing to have, had it going towards
36:41
Speaker 1: the or put it in the way the beam. The
36:44
Speaker 1: force of that blast starts pushing it towards the planet
36:48
Speaker 1: while it's also cutting through. So the city's rising because
36:51
Speaker 1: they don't like to go right or left or anywhere
36:54
Speaker 1: other than up there now with their shields down, are
36:58
Speaker 1: going up towards a hurtling down asteroid and they go,
37:02
Speaker 1: that's right, put the shields on, it'll be fine. And
37:04
Speaker 1: just before it hits them, that's when it burned through
37:07
Speaker 1: the thing, and that's the blast comes down. So they
37:09
Speaker 1: were thinking the impact of the asteroid is going to
37:11
Speaker 1: be the thing that gets this. That's right, the shields
37:13
Speaker 1: are going to get there quicker. No, the the heat
37:15
Speaker 1: blast blasted through it before that. It's kind of a
37:18
Speaker 1: bad design when you think about it. Shouldn't the shields
37:20
Speaker 1: start from the top. Yeah, they always start from.
37:24
Speaker 3: It's so close to the top of that tour was building, like,
37:27
Speaker 3: it's not like they've got, you know, like.
37:29
Speaker 5: An upside down and crusted diamond shape.
37:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just like misses I did.
37:33
Speaker 4: What he was saying there about the three O two
37:35
Speaker 4: is kind of like trying to attach to the to
37:39
Speaker 4: the satellite and move that because there is that line
37:41
Speaker 4: where they say all it has is navigation and a
37:45
Speaker 4: hyperdrive and that's it.
37:47
Speaker 2: The shield, you know, and then the shield. Oh maybe
37:49
Speaker 2: that's why they could attach to it because.
37:51
Speaker 6: They but we have shown shield precedence of that with
37:55
Speaker 6: O'Neill throwing the knife. It true at old mate's hand,
37:58
Speaker 6: True when he had the person shield on. Yeah, Hero, No,
38:05
Speaker 6: wasn't it. Wasn't it Ball No, I'm pretty sure it
38:08
Speaker 6: was her work. When they went back to Abydos and he.
38:12
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm not I thing it early on, remember the
38:14
Speaker 4: Knox episode where Apofus is hunting and he has the
38:17
Speaker 4: personal shield and they throw a knife through his palm?
38:20
Speaker 5: Was that him too?
38:22
Speaker 2: That was a Pofus in the Knox, wasn't it.
38:23
Speaker 6: I don't think so. That's what I thought it was
38:26
Speaker 6: because he had the he had the personal shield then
38:32
Speaker 6: we should knife watch her attacks and that's the one
38:41
Speaker 6: after that when he's trying to steal ch uh.
38:45
Speaker 4: He could be right, Yeah, I just remember the Knox
38:48
Speaker 4: episode where they where they went hunting.
38:49
Speaker 5: Yeah, he definitely had the shield in that. Yeah, they
38:52
Speaker 5: might have.
38:53
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, because they were talking about he threw the
38:55
Speaker 6: staff weaponto a pofice. Yeah, so that's why they kind
38:58
Speaker 6: of theorized that you can throw something ballistic at it.
39:01
Speaker 6: But yeah, sorry, throw something slowly at it, but not.
39:05
Speaker 4: A ballistic Yeah. No, I agree with the planet the Sorry.
39:10
Speaker 4: The city shield though, is kind of given that, like yeah,
39:14
Speaker 4: like it's so slow, like and and given that, like mit,
39:17
Speaker 4: like with the that tower is where that's the main stuff.
39:20
Speaker 4: That's the gate room, the control room, the jumper bay,
39:25
Speaker 4: like you want to protect that.
39:28
Speaker 5: Like a little tiny umbrella on top of that.
39:30
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, and the city at least at
39:34
Speaker 1: all costs protect this place.
39:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, the star drive room and the it's downstairs with that,
39:40
Speaker 6: but of that, Yeah, tower.
39:42
Speaker 2: I did hate. We've seen it for the first time.
39:43
Speaker 4: I don't want you guys think, but what I hated
39:45
Speaker 4: is when we saw the top down shot of the beam,
39:48
Speaker 4: like as it as it hit the like grays of
39:50
Speaker 4: the tower, and you see that the central tower is
39:53
Speaker 4: actually not connected to the rest of the city at all.
39:55
Speaker 4: It's kind of its own thing in the middle, and
39:57
Speaker 4: there's just a silly little arterial kind of thing popping off,
40:00
Speaker 4: and I'm like, that's a terrible design. Yeah, and it's
40:04
Speaker 4: proven to be with the beam hitting that thing and it,
40:06
Speaker 4: you know, basically cripples the city. But I'm like, yeah,
40:08
Speaker 4: I kind of like the idea that that that's a
40:10
Speaker 4: little more connected at the base there.
40:12
Speaker 5: But no, I definitely hated that that visual.
40:15
Speaker 6: I was like, I like the Cliffhanger though, just kind
40:18
Speaker 6: of stranded in space with with just shields running out,
40:21
Speaker 6: oxygen running out.
40:23
Speaker 4: It's like ship and you know, no spoilers for Mitch,
40:25
Speaker 4: but the next episode of Atlanta is just called a drift.
40:31
Speaker 4: I have a question for you, Mitchell though, because I
40:32
Speaker 4: believe aside from Rising, I don't know whether you see it,
40:36
Speaker 4: but I guess this is probably the first time you've
40:37
Speaker 4: seen it. Uh, the the vertical hyper drive for Atlantis
40:44
Speaker 4: thoughts where they go kind of going that way, Yeah,
40:49
Speaker 4: like like it's it's yeah, at the end of at
40:52
Speaker 4: the end of the episode when they're just flying through space.
40:54
Speaker 1: They're just kind of going left to right when they
40:56
Speaker 1: enter hyperspace. No, I thought about it, so, okay, sick.
41:00
Speaker 1: Where do we see it recently?
41:01
Speaker 4: What was the other episode where they probably rising when
41:04
Speaker 4: they when Atlanta's leaves Earth.
41:06
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we've seen it within We spoke about it,
41:09
Speaker 1: and we said it was so because we were watching them.
41:12
Speaker 3: They were they were looking.
41:13
Speaker 1: Up like into their sky essentially, and it was space
41:16
Speaker 1: was like raining down on the right like a wormhole.
41:18
Speaker 5: Or yeah, where do we see that? Because I'm maybe
41:22
Speaker 5: before I sleep? Maybe it was SG one, wasn't it?
41:26
Speaker 5: Maybe it was Atlantis.
41:28
Speaker 2: I can't think of a time where we've seen Atlantis.
41:30
Speaker 1: Honestly, within the last of us recording the last couple
41:33
Speaker 1: of months, we've only been the last handful really of episodes,
41:37
Speaker 1: you know, ten to twenty episodes ago across these shows.
41:41
Speaker 1: Was it was it when SG one went to Atlantis
41:43
Speaker 1: to get that.
41:46
Speaker 5: Atlanta stayed on the planet, Like, I don't think it
41:49
Speaker 5: was Atlanta's. I think it was a different ship.
41:51
Speaker 3: Not the other Replicator episode.
41:52
Speaker 2: Did they ever fly their version of the they could
41:55
Speaker 2: have been here, Maybe they fly there.
41:57
Speaker 3: Atlanta city ship.
41:59
Speaker 1: That might have been that one then yeah, ok, yeah
42:01
Speaker 1: that was because I remember thinking, like you God, Brendan
42:04
Speaker 1: and I were all over each other over that, like
42:06
Speaker 1: just the idea of like how cool is that this
42:08
Speaker 1: is raining? Yeah, yeah, it was just it was raining down.
42:11
Speaker 1: And yet in this one, yeah, we see them obviously
42:14
Speaker 1: enter the atmosphere and then exit in a space into
42:18
Speaker 1: outer space before they hit the hyperdrive. And then when
42:20
Speaker 1: they're going through the wormhole, we're traveling in hyperspace. They're going, yeah, sideways,
42:26
Speaker 1: I'm come on, guys.
42:28
Speaker 2: A surer and takeoff vertical hyperspace discuss.
42:32
Speaker 3: I much prefer the vertical travel.
42:36
Speaker 4: Interesting because I remember when Atlanta's first came out. I
42:39
Speaker 4: think I might have mentioned it in that episode. I
42:41
Speaker 4: remember Craig pointing out that when you look at Atlantis
42:44
Speaker 4: on one of the piers, it almost looks like it
42:46
Speaker 4: has two big like playing tail fins on one of
42:49
Speaker 4: the on one of the peers. Because we obviously back
42:51
Speaker 4: back then, you in the in the first series, like
42:54
Speaker 4: the first season, we're like talking about, well, how it's
42:56
Speaker 4: a city ship, how does it, how does it travel?
42:58
Speaker 5: What does it do?
42:58
Speaker 8: You know?
42:58
Speaker 4: And obviously speculating about what it could possibly be. And yeah,
43:02
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone else kind of considered the vertical hyperspace.
43:07
Speaker 2: It's it's weird because I think it should be just
43:09
Speaker 2: with it.
43:09
Speaker 4: It's vertical hyperspace, but horizontal subspace is kind of a weird,
43:14
Speaker 4: weird aspect. But I think it would be just as
43:16
Speaker 4: weird too to see Atlanta's flying like tower first through
43:20
Speaker 4: like normal black space.
43:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, would be would.
43:22
Speaker 1: Be they exited hyperspace at the end and they were
43:25
Speaker 1: just adrift. I'm like, yeah, it does like for the
43:30
Speaker 1: just the layman sort of way to look at it,
43:32
Speaker 1: them going sideways seems to make more sense orright, like
43:35
Speaker 1: being a traditional ship. But what would that look like
43:37
Speaker 1: if if we saw it and it looked like it
43:39
Speaker 1: was on its tilt rather than we're seeing it from
43:41
Speaker 1: their perspective and it's going down. If we were to
43:45
Speaker 1: see the city essentially traveling sideways, that would.
43:47
Speaker 4: Have been you know, it would suck for Inertia though,
43:50
Speaker 4: because it's like, you know, there was a whole episode
43:52
Speaker 4: where with the cargo ship took the asteroid through Earth
43:56
Speaker 4: or whatever, and it's like they just kind of let
43:58
Speaker 4: the inertia take them through it whereas it's like, you know,
44:01
Speaker 4: a city ship has the inert from coming out of hyperspace,
44:05
Speaker 4: has to come to a complete stop vertically on that
44:07
Speaker 4: axis and has to start moving on a different axis
44:11
Speaker 4: through space. So yeah, that's that's a little odd, or
44:13
Speaker 4: at least I would have to then maybe italyst pivot
44:15
Speaker 4: or something like that.
44:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's a weird.
44:17
Speaker 4: It's a weird concept, but yeah, I think it adds
44:20
Speaker 4: to the alien nature of it, the very kind of
44:23
Speaker 4: non non human aspect of it, which I which I
44:26
Speaker 4: really like. Some fun a little bits of trivia for
44:30
Speaker 4: you though. So this is the season three finale of
44:34
Speaker 4: Atlantis US dealing with the Replicators. The season three finale
44:39
Speaker 4: of s G one was Nemesis, the episode where Thor
44:43
Speaker 4: comes and kidnaps this to help him fight the replicators.
44:47
Speaker 2: So we've come a long way, maybe.
44:50
Speaker 5: A long way.
44:53
Speaker 4: And if if anyone pays attention, if you look very closely,
44:55
Speaker 4: when the satellite thing kind of first appears on screen,
45:01
Speaker 4: if you look closely, the stargate in it only has
45:04
Speaker 4: eight chevrons.
45:08
Speaker 3: Oh yes on the.
45:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's like, oh.
45:14
Speaker 4: Oops, oops, someone didnt se dry stuff though. Chevron's to
45:20
Speaker 4: get to Atlanta's we gotta yeah, we need We'll just
45:22
Speaker 4: make one.
45:23
Speaker 5: That's what we need.
45:24
Speaker 4: Obviously, we've referenced this many many times for Mitchell, but
45:26
Speaker 4: we finally get it in this episode the famous Ronan line,
45:30
Speaker 4: I need to learn.
45:31
Speaker 9: Some science not all that useful in situations like this.
45:38
Speaker 9: So you into a fight or need to break out
45:39
Speaker 9: her somewhere, you don't kill someone.
45:42
Speaker 4: I'm your man.
45:44
Speaker 9: Put a laser attack in the city shield. I don't
45:47
Speaker 9: know where to chip in. That's why we're a team
45:50
Speaker 9: like Fantastic four. It's a comic book. We're superheroes, fight
45:57
Speaker 9: crime and stuff. C I would be mister Fantastic. Ronan
46:02
Speaker 9: would be the same.
46:03
Speaker 5: McKay would be the human torch. I'm not invisible, Taylor's
46:09
Speaker 5: only line in the episode.
46:10
Speaker 9: Yeah no, And McKay is not a human torch because
46:15
Speaker 9: he was the leader.
46:16
Speaker 12: And I'm just saying they were a cool team and
46:22
Speaker 12: were a cool.
46:23
Speaker 9: Team, and he's their strengths to you know.
46:26
Speaker 5: How long this goes.
46:29
Speaker 1: When I got check on season finale one, forty two
46:32
Speaker 1: is dedicated to talking about the Fantastic.
46:34
Speaker 6: For first second he talked about said fantastic for his like,
46:37
Speaker 6: I have to explain.
46:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously he was very like it was.
46:41
Speaker 2: It's like him explaining TV that a few episodes ago.
46:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, TV.
46:46
Speaker 1: Obviously obviously he's the human torch, he is the hot head,
46:48
Speaker 1: he's the one with the loud mouth. He's this and
46:50
Speaker 1: that and and clearly McKay is the unlikable, smartest guy
46:56
Speaker 1: in the world galaxy whatever I've read.
46:58
Speaker 3: Richard's like, he is very.
47:00
Speaker 1: Easible, hat a guy that would make a number of
47:03
Speaker 1: mistakes in for the you know, the greater good.
47:06
Speaker 4: Richards gets the girl. So that's why Shepherd's like, well,
47:08
Speaker 4: you can't be. You can't be, mister fantastic.
47:10
Speaker 3: Obvious, little selfish there.
47:14
Speaker 4: I guess it's it's kind of lame by twenty twenty
47:17
Speaker 4: four stands, But in two thousand and seven standards they
47:19
Speaker 4: made a big deal about that one minute long VFX
47:22
Speaker 4: shot of the Horizon taking out the Replicator planet. Did
47:28
Speaker 4: you get it even register on your radar?
47:30
Speaker 5: Mitual?
47:31
Speaker 1: The Horizon taking the missile so like the I know,
47:35
Speaker 1: I love that like one shot of it dropping out
47:38
Speaker 1: of the thing and.
47:38
Speaker 2: Just like slollowing it through atmosphere.
47:40
Speaker 1: It felt like a cut scene from a video game
47:41
Speaker 1: where it's like you're going to take over once this
47:43
Speaker 1: missile hits, you know, all of a sudden, your ship's
47:45
Speaker 1: going to come in. But we have to watch this missile,
47:47
Speaker 1: you know, travel down into the atmosphere break apart, so
47:50
Speaker 1: that all the little missiles and whatnot are going to
47:52
Speaker 1: fire off it.
47:53
Speaker 4: No.
47:53
Speaker 3: I thought that was really really cool. Yeah.
47:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, like up until this point, I think the maximum
47:57
Speaker 4: s you wanted done was like a twenty or thirty
47:58
Speaker 4: second CGI shot, and they're like, we're gonna do ae
48:03
Speaker 4: minute and we're going to break the budget.
48:05
Speaker 5: Four.
48:06
Speaker 6: That's how I saw a real the other day of
48:09
Speaker 6: George Lucas saying what he did in Star Wars was
48:13
Speaker 6: just make everything maximum twelve seconds, so lower the budget
48:18
Speaker 6: and also make it more exciting. People were like, you're crazy,
48:21
Speaker 6: that's too short. And now it's like half second shots.
48:24
Speaker 4: It's just like you were, you know, something like the
48:26
Speaker 4: Born Identity and it's just like it's like forty five
48:29
Speaker 4: half second shots one after the other.
48:31
Speaker 6: Specifically about the special effects that the death star blows up. Yeah,
48:35
Speaker 6: it goes and that's pretty quick, yeah yeah, and it
48:38
Speaker 6: cuts away.
48:39
Speaker 12: Yeah.
48:40
Speaker 1: And then yet when we get like episode three and
48:42
Speaker 1: it opens like we do the crawl, and then it
48:45
Speaker 1: pans down and it's another minute and twelve seconds. I
48:48
Speaker 1: think that shot where all of a sudden you're in
48:50
Speaker 1: the couriuscant our atmosphere and all the ships and you're
48:53
Speaker 1: following Obi Wan and then you're following Anakin and it's
48:56
Speaker 1: and then you're going inside the.
48:57
Speaker 5: Cockpit and stuff like it goes to the original.
49:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying in general, like yeah, like, but
49:02
Speaker 1: I mean he probably carried that sort of style on
49:04
Speaker 1: for like you get the original, then probably the original trilogy,
49:07
Speaker 1: and then even the first two, and then once you
49:09
Speaker 1: get to his sixth film or these sixth film in
49:11
Speaker 1: the franchise, it's very clearly a different shot.
49:15
Speaker 3: I still, like, I still think about it, and.
49:17
Speaker 1: There would be longer shots than that in movies and
49:19
Speaker 1: longer VFX heavy shots and stuff.
49:21
Speaker 3: But I still think about what that looked like in
49:23
Speaker 3: two thousand and five.
49:24
Speaker 4: For I still remember when I got the VHS's of
49:26
Speaker 4: the original trilogy with like the special editions in like
49:30
Speaker 4: the nineties with all borus something like that, and the.
49:33
Speaker 3: Bonus ninety seven the twentieth anniversaries.
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Speaker 5: Yeah that makes sense, because yeah, it was just full
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Speaker 5: Fandom Menace.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I still never I'd never seen Star Wars
49:41
Speaker 1: at the hand. My godmother gave it to me, going, yeah,
49:43
Speaker 1: you'd probably like this. I'm like, oh, it's for nerds.
49:46
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it until after I watched Fandom Menace
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Speaker 1: two years later and take the VHS out of the plastic.
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Speaker 5: Ah.
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Speaker 4: Well, I watched all the bonus the bonus features and
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Speaker 4: one of the things that using that, like that shot
49:55
Speaker 4: six in your head six in my head, is them
49:58
Speaker 4: explaining how they did it all back in the seventies.
50:01
Speaker 4: And it's like the shots of the of the X
50:03
Speaker 4: Wings doing the attack run on the Death Star and
50:07
Speaker 4: like them crashing into the Death Star or missing and stuff.
50:10
Speaker 4: They literally just had like ten ping pong tables set
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Speaker 4: up with all these like model kits that they'd all
50:15
Speaker 4: set up, and then literally just like put a camera
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Speaker 4: on the back of a pickup truck and just drove
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Speaker 4: down it and just were throwing.
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Speaker 5: Fireworks at it and stuff like that.
50:23
Speaker 4: And that's how they did these passes of explosions on
50:26
Speaker 4: the Death Star is incredible.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there's still some I think it might
50:30
Speaker 1: even be in Return of the Jedi or something, and
50:32
Speaker 1: it's very clearly a model like you, the way that
50:34
Speaker 1: sparks looking the fire looks, and actually there is one.
50:37
Speaker 5: He took into a trekkie.
50:38
Speaker 4: I know all about models on strings exploding in fake space.
50:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's part of the story, guys.
50:44
Speaker 3: It's fine.
50:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, fun facts too.
50:47
Speaker 4: I just on some of my trivia in the same
50:49
Speaker 4: way Walter got his name because it was kind of
50:52
Speaker 4: a misspeak by Hammond.
50:53
Speaker 5: People heard Harriman and Ammon and all that kind of stuff.
50:57
Speaker 4: It's only in this episode the Chuck is given the
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Speaker 4: name Chuck because that's the actor's real name. Really, we are,
51:05
Speaker 4: by mistake said dial it up Chuck or whatever it is.
51:09
Speaker 4: So now that character's name is Chuck, brilliant just because
51:12
Speaker 4: she she actually used his real name by mistake in
51:14
Speaker 4: the scene and they just kept it and went, well,
51:16
Speaker 4: that character's name is now Chuck. So yeah, he's he's
51:19
Speaker 4: kind of the Walter of Atlantis.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah.
51:23
Speaker 5: I just think I love the the parallels between that.
51:25
Speaker 5: It's funny. A lot of people online aren't aware of
51:29
Speaker 5: Chuck really not really, that's crazy. They're like, who's that?
51:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder whether or hopefully I'll remember that name
51:37
Speaker 1: as we go on, because pop up and I'm like, oh,
51:40
Speaker 1: that guy, But if you do, you're telling me now
51:41
Speaker 1: he's never had a name.
51:42
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
51:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, well we caught him Chuck the whole time. But
51:46
Speaker 5: if Walter didn't exist, we wouldn't know of any of
51:48
Speaker 5: the Gate technicians.
51:49
Speaker 4: Yeah no, there was what pretty well coumeface, but other
51:53
Speaker 4: weird because it wasn't Walter. Yes, yeah, the poor Mensah Sylvan.
51:58
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, that Gary, Gary's dad or whatever. Yeah, speaking
52:04
Speaker 4: of names, you'll remember Mitch, and you're welcome.
52:07
Speaker 13: A little present for you now, Mitch again is kind
52:10
Speaker 13: of an icon and science fiction and an icon and
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Speaker 13: television and greatest guy, one of just the nicest people
52:16
Speaker 13: ever here.
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Speaker 2: You can put that back with your Taylor Mitch.
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Speaker 3: Mitch, thank you, thank you, love that very much.
52:25
Speaker 5: Lets put that post better than Mitch. Your father made
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Speaker 5: you wrong.
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Speaker 3: Listening? What did he so easy for?
52:37
Speaker 4: And just to look back back to it before we go,
52:39
Speaker 4: just because I forgot to play it earlier.
52:41
Speaker 9: Listen, I know you don't like me very much. It's
52:44
Speaker 9: okay to be honest.
52:46
Speaker 8: I'm not that crazy about you, but I've crossed the
52:53
Speaker 8: line here or there in regards to your command, I apologize.
52:57
Speaker 2: Damn straight, you apologize.
52:59
Speaker 9: But I don't want you to think I don't respect you.
53:01
Speaker 4: I do.
53:01
Speaker 9: Duck.
53:02
Speaker 5: Well, thank you about that.
53:04
Speaker 9: I appreciate that.
53:06
Speaker 10: What was the rest of the military felt the same way.
53:09
Speaker 9: Well, I can't speak to that. I do know General
53:13
Speaker 9: O'Neill is awfully fond of you.
53:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.
53:16
Speaker 3: I did make.
53:19
Speaker 1: No I like because I like, you know, we were
53:22
Speaker 1: all the scenes that we've referenced so far, both of
53:25
Speaker 1: them were right. It was just how they converse with
53:28
Speaker 1: each and then that scene where he's like, hey, look, hey,
53:30
Speaker 1: just just just in case or it's just for the
53:32
Speaker 1: audience member that's going to be like, how dare he
53:35
Speaker 1: do that, you know, to our main character or something.
53:37
Speaker 3: So yeah, I really really like that exchange.
53:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Britain, would be fair to say that O'Neill
53:43
Speaker 4: and McKay are probably your two favorite Stargate characters, would
53:49
Speaker 4: that be will be fair? Yeah?
53:52
Speaker 2: They're up there.
53:53
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, probably.
53:54
Speaker 6: Like I said, I like Daniel the first five yeah,
53:57
Speaker 6: and then Jack overall in him.
54:00
Speaker 5: Yeah.
54:00
Speaker 4: McKay, we we know that, we know that Daniel is
54:03
Speaker 4: a fan of Weir. We know that they get along
54:05
Speaker 4: like house on fire. They they're great. And we've just
54:07
Speaker 4: got confirmation there that that O'Neill is also a big.
54:11
Speaker 5: Fan that Daniel likes. We're that Daniel likes anyone.
54:15
Speaker 2: Daniel didn't like. Daniel didn't like blonde weird.
54:18
Speaker 4: But remember when she was in charge of the SGC
54:21
Speaker 4: and they did they talked about poker and stuff.
54:23
Speaker 2: Daniel and Daniel and and Tory.
54:25
Speaker 4: We are their their best pals, their besties, you know,
54:28
Speaker 4: Pegasus project, you know, in the whole grammar room there
54:31
Speaker 4: planning around their besties. So the only one missing of that, Yeah,
54:36
Speaker 4: so the only one missing of that, triumvirent. Of of
54:40
Speaker 4: your favorite characters to not profess their love for Doctor
54:43
Speaker 4: Weir is McKay.
54:45
Speaker 5: Yeah right, No, he wrote the whole book on her
54:48
Speaker 5: number four please he wrote that whole book.
54:51
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
54:52
Speaker 3: What's interesting too, is that that you flam.
54:54
Speaker 12: McKay's relationship to the visiting Dignan Terry's is always the same.
54:58
Speaker 9: He is a very big your fan.
55:01
Speaker 12: Yeah about being a flag carrying weird fan. It comes
55:04
Speaker 12: out and seems like this where he has no military context,
55:08
Speaker 12: so he doesn't need to answer to the military were
55:10
Speaker 12: you go confirmed?
55:12
Speaker 5: It's nice, but I'm okay.
55:14
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is if your three favorite characters in
55:17
Speaker 4: Stargate all are weird fans.
55:20
Speaker 3: And you are not.
55:21
Speaker 5: I don't think Daniel likes weird.
55:23
Speaker 2: No, he totally does.
55:25
Speaker 5: He wants to be in charge of Atlantis.
55:28
Speaker 10: True.
55:28
Speaker 4: True. Oh see, now there's a what if I would
55:31
Speaker 4: love to see a show where Daniel actually actually got
55:33
Speaker 4: to go to Atlantis. Imagine I imagine that the imagine
55:37
Speaker 4: the philosophical arguments we're and Daniel would have gotten into.
55:40
Speaker 4: Oh talk about coming soon from last week, Jesus, that
55:45
Speaker 4: would have been fantastic.
55:47
Speaker 3: That's solo episode that one.
55:50
Speaker 5: Yeah, she I noticed that she didn't apologize to him
55:53
Speaker 5: for nothing.
55:54
Speaker 4: To apologize for nothing, idiot, nothing to apologize for.
56:00
Speaker 5: She's like, can you believe this?
56:02
Speaker 9: John?
56:02
Speaker 6: And then John's like yeah, awesome, and then she's like
56:05
Speaker 6: what like sel offended because she.
56:08
Speaker 4: Was like, he's an ineffectual first strike and she was
56:10
Speaker 4: right agree with me because she got a glass full
56:14
Speaker 4: of face, a glass full of face, a face full
56:17
Speaker 4: of glass, shut pots and pans.
56:27
Speaker 6: But she should be apologizing to him now for distracting
56:31
Speaker 6: him when he's trying to do his distracting him.
56:34
Speaker 2: How he.
56:36
Speaker 6: Come into my office. Listen, I want to talk to
56:40
Speaker 6: these machines. He's like, dude, that's not up to me.
56:43
Speaker 6: Even if I agreed with you, I have to do
56:45
Speaker 6: it otherwise I get caught martial. Do you understand you
56:48
Speaker 6: should be saying sorry for that.
56:52
Speaker 12: He did?
56:52
Speaker 5: He did less than what she did in terms of rudeness.
56:56
Speaker 5: She was cracking. She's cracking a ship in front of her.
57:01
Speaker 4: House and disrespected her to her face in her own house.
57:06
Speaker 4: Imagine if he had come in and done that, have
57:09
Speaker 4: time to talk about it, okay, But what if he'd
57:11
Speaker 4: come in and done that to Hammond? You would have
57:13
Speaker 4: been like this motherfucker.
57:14
Speaker 5: Well Hammond would have been we have we have orders, colonel.
57:18
Speaker 5: He's done that a million times.
57:19
Speaker 2: You can do that.
57:20
Speaker 5: I don't agree orders.
57:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's it.
57:24
Speaker 5: That's the end of it. Like he's trying to tell
57:26
Speaker 5: her that and she's just nagging and nagging. Come on,
57:30
Speaker 5: non stop, come on, will not stop.
57:33
Speaker 4: She stopped now because she got a face full of
57:34
Speaker 4: glass and she's unconscious in the medical bay. I did
57:40
Speaker 4: think it was I think they I think they played
57:42
Speaker 4: it off well, but I did find the awkward scene.
57:45
Speaker 4: We're in the middle of everything. She has a conversation
57:47
Speaker 4: with Taylor about how she may.
57:48
Speaker 5: Have to quit. It was a little odd.
57:52
Speaker 4: It was a little odd, but I think she played
57:54
Speaker 4: it better than other people would have. I think would
57:57
Speaker 4: have made it seem a little pettier.
57:58
Speaker 3: I'm staging a cool pass it on.
58:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, basically might have to.
58:03
Speaker 5: He might not need to.
58:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wouldn't be a shame if I had to quit.
58:08
Speaker 4: Not really, Taylor, Taylor, Uh, do you have a movie
58:15
Speaker 4: recommendation for you guys too?
58:18
Speaker 5: Mitchell?
58:18
Speaker 4: Just play You know how I love to shoot on Giro.
58:20
Speaker 4: So just this is this is uh Mountain Geara talking
58:24
Speaker 4: about what he did in his in his off season.
58:26
Speaker 7: There's an enormous amount of visual effects in this show,
58:28
Speaker 7: and the behind the scenes of this is once the
58:29
Speaker 7: episode was locked, I left Vancouver to go direct a
58:33
Speaker 7: feature film and was hard to get in touch with
58:36
Speaker 7: and so thankfully Brad Wright, who is you know, the
58:40
Speaker 7: best at all of this kind of did the visual
58:43
Speaker 7: effects spotting with or No, I did the visual efects
58:45
Speaker 7: spotting with you guys, but then I don't I don't
58:47
Speaker 7: even remember. But Brad basically took on a supervisor role,
58:50
Speaker 7: and then I eventually came back to the production after
58:53
Speaker 7: I came out of my you know, filmmaking cocoon and
58:55
Speaker 7: started looking at shot making is not what we talked
58:59
Speaker 7: about now, and Mark, you know, had the dubious vision
59:01
Speaker 7: to be like, well, but that's what that's what Brad wants.
59:05
Speaker 2: What in the Robert C.
59:07
Speaker 5: Cooper does Martin hear I'll prepare himself to cubricks.
59:11
Speaker 4: After he emerged from his film making cocoon, he's having
59:14
Speaker 4: a bit of making fun making the twenty seven minute
59:18
Speaker 4: long film from two thousand and seven entitled Young People.
59:22
Speaker 5: Fucking is gonna have to put a bleep in that?
59:28
Speaker 2: No, no, Mitchell, you can't bleep that because that is
59:30
Speaker 2: the name of the film.
59:31
Speaker 1: Okay, this is an emirated podcast. We get one, Yeah,
59:35
Speaker 1: there we go podcast.
59:36
Speaker 4: The R eighteen rated twenty seven minute long film that
59:40
Speaker 4: he emerged from his cocoon. The synopsis reads, on a
59:43
Speaker 4: Tuesday night, five couples have separate sexual adventures.
59:48
Speaker 2: He made pawn.
59:50
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, tasteful porn.
59:51
Speaker 5: But this is how you direct pawn guys.
59:54
Speaker 2: In his cocoon.
59:55
Speaker 5: What a wanker.
59:57
Speaker 3: He's just having a bit.
59:57
Speaker 1: Of other than him going I was just focus sing
1:00:00
Speaker 1: on my film at the time. He's just having a fun.
1:00:02
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that.
1:00:04
Speaker 5: He did pray to the altar of Brad right.
1:00:07
Speaker 4: Yes, and also just double doubling down on that stop
1:00:10
Speaker 4: dialing is not working.
1:00:12
Speaker 9: I like the fact that you put in that line,
1:00:14
Speaker 9: well just now, of course is a Brad Raid. Everyone's like, oh,
1:00:19
Speaker 9: that line's great.
1:00:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, Yeah, who wouldn't be doing that?
1:00:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he does talk about it, you know, how
1:00:27
Speaker 4: to rate McKay. He does talk about it in another
1:00:29
Speaker 4: bit where the Fantastic Four stuff was. Actually he didn't
1:00:32
Speaker 4: write that either. He had the he had the idea
1:00:33
Speaker 4: for Shepherd to reference the Fantastic Four, and then it
1:00:36
Speaker 4: was Paul Mulley or someone else that said the whole speech,
1:00:39
Speaker 4: the whole speech about breaking each one of them down
1:00:41
Speaker 4: to the four things.
1:00:42
Speaker 2: That wasn't a Martin Gira thing either.
1:00:44
Speaker 5: So you know, he's just a fraud.
1:00:48
Speaker 2: He's a fraud. Go make more twenty seven minute long
1:00:50
Speaker 2: pawn your toad.
1:00:54
Speaker 3: Shoot, it's a link as well.
1:00:57
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I'm gonna try and see if
1:00:58
Speaker 2: I can find this film.
1:00:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be a Patreon only.
1:01:00
Speaker 4: Oh wait, I've made a mistake. Now it's an hour
1:01:03
Speaker 4: and twenty seven minute.
1:01:04
Speaker 2: Oh wow, there we go. Left it. I should have
1:01:10
Speaker 2: left it.
1:01:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Season three, I'm Stargate Atlantis. Next couple
1:01:17
Speaker 1: of weeks, next couple of episodes of the pod. We
1:01:19
Speaker 1: have our ranks, their official ranks of season ten of
1:01:23
Speaker 1: s G one Season three of s G A got
1:01:27
Speaker 1: a very special mail bag as well, because we're going
1:01:29
Speaker 1: to empty some a great mail bag of it back
1:01:32
Speaker 1: coment in very important fun.
1:01:36
Speaker 6: You know, we've got some off world activations some people,
1:01:39
Speaker 6: and then yeah, we've got to do our our our
1:01:42
Speaker 6: send off to SG.
1:01:43
Speaker 4: Well, we're going to do our sort of series special.
1:01:46
Speaker 4: It's not really a wreck or actually, what we might
1:01:48
Speaker 4: be able to do for this for the series sending
1:01:50
Speaker 4: off is we'll be able to maybe.
1:01:53
Speaker 2: Do a series rank and get.
1:01:54
Speaker 4: Our get our top three and bottom tree from all
1:01:56
Speaker 4: ten seasons, and then maybe you guys can do the
1:01:59
Speaker 4: whole spreadsheet numbers thing and see what's the what's the
1:02:03
Speaker 4: number one rates of spreadsheet, what's the number one rated
1:02:07
Speaker 4: episode of all of s G one, and what.
1:02:11
Speaker 2: And what's the most horseship episode of s G one.
1:02:15
Speaker 4: According to the members of Get into Gatesvasion, it's.
1:02:18
Speaker 5: The best is Lost City and the worst is probably
1:02:21
Speaker 5: Fifth Commandment. What about Wind of Opportunity? Mate as the best,
1:02:26
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the worst. I'm just saying.
1:02:30
Speaker 4: You said Lost City is the best? Yeah, what about
1:02:33
Speaker 4: Window of Opportunity?
1:02:33
Speaker 5: They got they got a lot of.
1:02:34
Speaker 6: Yeah, that doesn't mean but I'm just saying, I think
1:02:38
Speaker 6: it's going to be that. Oh, you gotta do the spreadsheets,
1:02:40
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