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The Late Debate | 29 September · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Light Device.
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  Speaker 2: Dear, dear, dear. We'll have a bit more to say
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  Speaker 2: about that later. Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Caleb Bond with Lucy Zelich and Joe Hildebrand, who's
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  Speaker 3: come a cropper tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us about your drive.
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  Speaker 1: I have come a cropper, yes. Regular viewers and listeners
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  Speaker 1: will know about my experiences with the Ford Falcon. I
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  Speaker 1: have now traded that in for another car that I
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  Speaker 1: got off my mechanic, which is a Land Cruiser. Made
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  Speaker 1: me the happiest car. Only 340,000 K on the clock.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just getting started, just getting warmed up. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: the radiator was also just getting warmed up and warmed
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  Speaker 1: up to the point that it exploded on my way
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  Speaker 1: in to the show tonight. So my car, I am
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  Speaker 1: currently here, as you can see, live on air, but
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  Speaker 1: my car is now back at my mechanic's. He's a
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  Speaker 1: much better mechanic than it sounds.
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  Speaker 4: I was about to say, maybe we've got a point
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  Speaker 4: to the stark reality.
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  Speaker 1: This was his own personal car. This was his family car.
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  Speaker 1: There was an official family send-off in the street when
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  Speaker 1: I bought it off him.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's blown up.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what that's... I was worried it was
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  Speaker 3: just going to be you and me, Lucy, but thankfully
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  Speaker 3: Joe has joined us, so we shall carry on.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what's coming up tonight. Interest rates.
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  Speaker 3: They've gone up again, as you well know. Treasurer Jim
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  Speaker 3: Chalmers says it isn't his fault. The opposition says government
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  Speaker 3: spending needs to be cut. Is it possible for a
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  Speaker 3: government to cut spending these days without voters squealing?
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  Speaker 2: Also, is it.
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  Speaker 3: OK to tell a woman she's beautiful in a professional context?
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  Speaker 3: One man found it on LinkedIn, but the young banker
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  Speaker 3: he thought was beautiful posted his message, said it wasn't appropriate.
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  Speaker 3: And the ACT is getting the same amount of money
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  Speaker 3: for coastline protection from the federal government as Queensland.
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  Speaker 2: on the.
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  Speaker 3: Front of tomorrow's Courier Mail. But first, what are the
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  Speaker 3: feminists after today? I mean, you know, they've been after
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  Speaker 3: everything recently, haven't they?
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  Speaker 2: Now it's Taylor Swift.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Taylor Swift is in their sights because she's married
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  Speaker 3: and in love. And of course, that is a bad thing.
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  Speaker 3: Dee Salmon, who is a host on Triple J, she
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  Speaker 3: also happens to be the partner of Collingwood's captain, Darcy Moore,
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  Speaker 3: Collingwood Football Club. That is, she's taken to Substack to
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  Speaker 3: complain that Taylor Swift's musical output has now gone down
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  Speaker 3: the toilet as a result of the fact that she's
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  Speaker 3: happily in love and married. She says, this is what
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  Speaker 3: happens when you write music and centre your entire life
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  Speaker 3: around men. Your art will reflect it. T-L-O-A-S, that's her
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  Speaker 3: latest album, and The Life of a Showgirl, feels like
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  Speaker 3: one giant, I got picked. Look at my ring. I
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  Speaker 3: have a husband. Someone likes me. It breaks my heart,
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  Speaker 3: Dee says. I want women to know they are worth
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  Speaker 3: more than just finding a man that doesn't find you
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  Speaker 3: completely insufferable. Being chosen isn't the goal. And the few
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  Speaker 3: songs we have about Travis, that is her husband, Travis Kelsey,
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  Speaker 3: just seemed to reek of ha-ha suck it because this
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  Speaker 3: hot football player chose me. It cemented my biggest fear
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  Speaker 3: that Taylor is only going to make music now.
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  Speaker 2: That he's weirdly bitter. So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: He's complaining that it wasn't bitter enough.
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  Speaker 2: I know, but it's all been ruined.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor Swift's music has been ruined because she's happy and
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  Speaker 3: in love.
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable. What else are the feminists going to come for?
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  Speaker 5: I'm sick of them, quite frankly.
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  Speaker 4: I just, this is, it was so funny because she's
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  Speaker 4: dating a footballer who picked her to be his girlfriend too.
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  Speaker 5: Ring or no ring, doesn't that.
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  Speaker 1: Smack a little bit of hypocrisy? If I was Darcy Moore,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be popping the question right now. But what
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  Speaker 1: are we.
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  Speaker 4: Saying now that, like, popping the question to women is offensive,
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  Speaker 4: that Taylor Swift finding love now is a problem?
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  Speaker 5: What would have been better for her to have been
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  Speaker 5: a spinster and remained.
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  Speaker 4: single for the rest of her life for the benefit
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  Speaker 4: of music and art. I mean, that is just so dumb.
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  Speaker 4: And by the way, let's look at some of the facts.
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  Speaker 4: So Dolly Parton remained married for her entire career. In fact,
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  Speaker 4: got married a year after she signed her first record deal.
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  Speaker 5: Katie Perry got married while she was a big megastar. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: she got divorced. She did work out.
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  Speaker 4: Aretha Franklin, another example, right? Beyonce, the best example. Do
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  Speaker 4: you know what her best-selling album was?
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  Speaker 1: Beyonce's.
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  Speaker 5: Beyonce's.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Dangerously in love.
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  Speaker 4: Some of her best hits include things like Single Ladies,
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  Speaker 4: Put A Ring On It, Drunk In Love and Crazy
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  Speaker 4: In Love. And she was with Jay-Z when she wrote
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  Speaker 4: all of these songs and became a best-selling... She also
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  Speaker 4: dropped the.
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  Speaker 1: Album Lemonade about him hitting on Jenny with the big hair,
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  Speaker 1: was it?
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  Speaker 5: So now can't you.
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  Speaker 4: Just wait, Dee, for Swiftie's husband to potentially cheat on
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  Speaker 4: him and then she'll be.
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  Speaker 5: Back in your good braces again? But is that making sense?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I actually think... You know, I actually think she's right.
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  Speaker 1: I think it is an absolute rule of thumb that
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  Speaker 1: as soon as you get happy, you don't feel the
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  Speaker 1: need to write great songs or... Because you've already got the...
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I like country music, so every song should
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  Speaker 1: be miserable. Every song is about your wife leaving you,
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  Speaker 1: your dog dying, your Toyota Land Cruiser.
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  Speaker 3: Good year for the Roses, you know, two-storey householders, great George.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: You are right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there is a lot of great art and
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  Speaker 3: poetry and whatever that is written about.
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  Speaker 2: in the.
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  Speaker 3: Depths of people's despair and pain. But I don't think
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  Speaker 3: that that means that you can't also then produce good
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  Speaker 3: art while you are happy and in love.
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  Speaker 2: It might be a different form of art.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's, frankly, ridiculous to say that Taylor
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  Speaker 3: Swift has lost her way since getting married. Now, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not a massive Swifty, but she wrote and created a
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  Speaker 3: song recently for the new Toy Story movie, and I
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  Speaker 3: think it's excellent.
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  Speaker 2: Take a look.
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  Speaker 6: And they're telling us that Taylor Swift has lost the
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  Speaker 6: plot because she got married.
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  Speaker 4: She's only done one album, by the way, since she's
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  Speaker 4: been in this romance and now only got married. And
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  Speaker 4: by the way, The Life of a Showgirl was released
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  Speaker 4: before she ended up officially tying the knot. So I
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  Speaker 4: just feel that this is another attempt to try and attack...
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  Speaker 4: just trying to tack the good and wholesome things that
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  Speaker 4: we love about society. Like all of a sudden now,
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  Speaker 4: if I'm, and I had a fantastic career, by the way,
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  Speaker 4: I loved my broadcast career in football, but I've never
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  Speaker 4: felt as fulfilled in my life as I do now
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  Speaker 4: as a wife and as a mother.
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  Speaker 5: That's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel your skills as a broadcaster have diminished
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  Speaker 1: after you got married?
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  Speaker 5: No. No, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Because I've got less tolerance for bullshit now, Joseph.
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  Speaker 5: It's actually better.
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  Speaker 2: And we get to see the spoils of it.
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  Speaker 1: Again, I just find it, apart from the fact of
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  Speaker 1: what poor old Darcy Moore is going to think about
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  Speaker 1: all this when he's reading it, going, oh, I guess
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  Speaker 1: he's trying to send me a few signals here.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: But just this idea that I need to write this
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  Speaker 1: whole sort of essay on Substack about what is secretly
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  Speaker 1: happening in Taylor, the secret messaging in Taylor Swift's newly
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  Speaker 1: bitter songs that have come out as a result that,
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  Speaker 1: in fact, she's not bitter at all but incredibly happy.
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  Speaker 1: but she's only happy because she's sticking it to all
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  Speaker 1: the other, because the only reason she got married to
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  Speaker 1: Travis Kelce is so she could stick it to all
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  Speaker 1: the other girls and say, ha ha, he picked me
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  Speaker 1: and not you. And that's what this album is about.
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  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: I just, I love the idea that, what's her, what's
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  Speaker 1: her friend's name? Dee Salmon.
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  Speaker 5: Salmon.
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  Speaker 1: Salmon. Not to be confused with Paul Salmon, the big
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  Speaker 1: fish who used to pay for the bombers in the 80s.
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  Speaker 1: But she sort of just sat down and thought, you
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  Speaker 1: know what would make a really good think piece? This.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I just, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I did not have that on my 2026 bingo card.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, what is it? Feminist attacks Taylor Swift for
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  Speaker 1: not writing angry music now that she's married. Maybe that
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  Speaker 1: does check out, actually.
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  Speaker 4: She's essentially attacking her for getting married now and for
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  Speaker 4: being happy and in love because.
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  Speaker 5: She was too busy, apparently, Dee Salmon, crying to all
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  Speaker 5: of her other hits.
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  Speaker 3: Well, keep in mind, this is the same woman who
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  Speaker 3: said she couldn't go to the Brownlow this year because,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the values of the AFL didn't meet hers
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  Speaker 3: after the Sydney Swans incident.
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  Speaker 1: I pick up strong vibes from her Substack post that
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  Speaker 1: that's the sort of thing that she'd be doing.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, if only the Labor Party could pick up
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  Speaker 4: the strong vibes on what's going on in the economy
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  Speaker 4: at the moment because the biggest talking point of today,
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  Speaker 4: of course, it's been splashed across... All of the newspapers
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  Speaker 4: in anticipation, 99% of the market was expecting a rate
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  Speaker 4: rise today, and it is exactly what we got under
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  Speaker 4: the Albanese government when the cash rate was raised, pardon me,
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  Speaker 4: to 4.6%. It's been the biggest talking point of the day, Caleb.
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  Speaker 4: We all anticipated, we all expected it, but I think
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  Speaker 4: one of the hardest things to swallow has been the
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  Speaker 4: rhetoric that we've seen from the Labor Party, chief among
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  Speaker 4: them the Treasurer, Dr Spin Jim Chalmers, who literally said
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  Speaker 4: in that 20-minute press conference he referenced the Iran conflict
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  Speaker 4: 20 times. Sorry, in the 20-minute press conference he referenced
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  Speaker 4: it 10 times, constantly pointing to it and trying to.
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  Speaker 1: Incredible restraint.
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  Speaker 4: Incredible restraint, trying to redirect everybody to that. But then
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  Speaker 4: we heard from the Reserve Bank Governor, Michelle Bullock, she
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  Speaker 4: was saying that it was domestic capacity issues and, of course,
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  Speaker 4: pointed to the fact that prior to the conflict, we
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  Speaker 4: had already seen interest rate rises.
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  Speaker 5: So how did you react to it all?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's very clear, and we saw that great front
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  Speaker 3: page on the Aus today, right?
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  Speaker 2: We looked at it last night.
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  Speaker 3: Where they've dug out every time there's been a rate
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  Speaker 3: increase or decrease under the Albanese government, and every time
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  Speaker 3: it goes up, they blame something going on overseas or
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  Speaker 3: it's some problem out of their control. Every time the
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  Speaker 3: interest rate goes down, they say, ah, well, it proves
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  Speaker 3: that we're getting inflation.
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  Speaker 2: Under control. And I think Michelle Bullock.
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  Speaker 3: As clearly as she could today, said that there is
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  Speaker 3: government involvement in all of this without directly saying that
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  Speaker 3: there is government involvement in all of this. And that
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  Speaker 3: is why the opposition, Angus Taylor, opposition leader, came out
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  Speaker 3: today and said that government spending needs to be cut.
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  Speaker 2: Take a look. if that grab is coming?
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  Speaker 7: We know that the answer to this is to fix
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  Speaker 7: the economy. And that means axing Labor's toxic taxes and
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  Speaker 7: their red tape. It means slashing electricity and energy costs,
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  Speaker 7: scrapping net zero, making sure we've got a migration policy
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  Speaker 7: which is aligned with the housing that we have in
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  Speaker 7: this country and putting Australians first. And sadly, this government
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  Speaker 7: has done none of those things. But that plan will
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  Speaker 7: put downward pressure on inflation And we'll put downward pressure
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  Speaker 7: on interest rates, which is what Australians need right now.
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  Speaker 3: And look, I think the reality is the government does
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  Speaker 3: have to do its bit. And we need to have
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  Speaker 3: a hard discussion about cutting government spending. Government spending in
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  Speaker 3: real terms has increased under this government. You know, you
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  Speaker 3: exclude the COVID years, which were obviously heavily inflated because
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  Speaker 3: we didn't want people to go down the gurgler.
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  Speaker 2: It's the highest it's ever been. It's not sustainable. We
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  Speaker 2: can't keep denying... Highest in the world war II.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we can't keep denying that this is a major
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  Speaker 3: part of inflation and that we, and I say we,
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  Speaker 3: the taxpayers, the voters, have to suck up that the government,
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  Speaker 3: if we don't want to deal with these high interest rates,
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  Speaker 3: the government's actually got to stop spending so much money
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  Speaker 3: on us.
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  Speaker 1: It's true. It is a difficult truth to stomach, but
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  Speaker 1: it is true. And I think we have become over
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  Speaker 1: recent generations since the Howard Costello years when the economy
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  Speaker 1: was doing so well that every budget could afford to
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  Speaker 1: be this sort of gift hamper full of goodies. I
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  Speaker 1: think people have come to expect thinking that every single
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: budget would be good for them and deliver them a
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  Speaker 1: special surprise like on Christmas morning. We all know what
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  Speaker 1: happened in 2014 when the tough Abbott and hockey budget
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  Speaker 1: instead said, no, we've got to get our house in
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  Speaker 1: order and cut our cloth to suit our means. And
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  Speaker 1: they were both gone. a couple of years later.
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  Speaker 3: And everyone's been scared to talk about austerity ever since.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. And it's a difficult thing to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. I mean, you have to be able to
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  Speaker 1: make the case. You have to be able to make
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  Speaker 1: people understand the link between, say, for example, not providing...
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  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, let's just take, for example, the
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  Speaker 1: massive fuel crisis now, which is largely driven by something
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  Speaker 1: that is happening overseas, the Iran conflict. Now, you have
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  Speaker 1: got the government... you know, being forced on to cut
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  Speaker 1: fuel excise, being called on to cut fuel excise. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if it does that, that will have potentially a further
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  Speaker 1: inflationary effect. If we want to drive this thing down,
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  Speaker 1: you actually want to keep, you know, you want to
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  Speaker 1: keep that. They're not artificially propping it up. Same again
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  Speaker 1: with power bills. The government was making it look like
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  Speaker 1: they were going down because the retail figure came down.
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  Speaker 1: But of course, the underlying costs, not the price you
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  Speaker 1: pay at the bowser, the price you pay at the checkout,
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  Speaker 1: the price you pay on your bill. but the actual
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: costs were still going up. And that's what the RBA
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  Speaker 1: is looking at. So again, and that's just a form
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  Speaker 1: of government spending that is putting money out there in
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  Speaker 1: the community. And then people have other money to free
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  Speaker 1: up and spend, which they otherwise wouldn't because their backs
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: would have been against the wall and they would have
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: been suffering like hell because of these higher prices. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that is a difficult thing for any government
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  Speaker 1: to say to people, we are not going to give
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  Speaker 1: you any more money. You will have to suck up
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  Speaker 1: these higher prices because it's only by sucking up these
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: higher prices that the economy can eventually return to its
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  Speaker 1: normal level.
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  Speaker 4: But so do you not believe, Joe, that they have
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  Speaker 4: to cut spending? Like, let's go through some of it, right?
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  Speaker 4: So the NDIS, over $ 52 billion, that's a billion dollars
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  Speaker 4: a week. And we've seen so many stories emerge of fraudsters,
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: of people rorting the system, of it getting out of control,
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  Speaker 4: and it's only predicted to get even worse by.
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  Speaker 5: The end of this decade in the 60s of billions
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  Speaker 5: of dollars.
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  Speaker 1: And they are doing that. They're being held to ransom
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  Speaker 1: by the Greens.
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  Speaker 4: But they need to be held to ransom over this.
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  Speaker 4: Foreign aid, for example, $ 5. 2 billion. Of that, we give
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  Speaker 4: $ 50 million to Afghanistan, a country where we lost 41
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  Speaker 4: of our own servicemen, and their women are being subjugated
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  Speaker 4: and refused medical treatment in southern cities like Herat if
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: they're not wearing a hijab correctly.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go elsewhere. Childcare subsidy, $ 16 billion. And we now
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  Speaker 5: give it.
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  Speaker 4: To parents on $ 500, 000 who could potentially be sitting home
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  Speaker 4: on their arses while their kids are being looked after
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  Speaker 4: by strangers. That's predicted to go up to at least $ 20.
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  Speaker 5: Billion as the years go on.
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  Speaker 4: Climate change and net zero, $ 4. 3 billion was spent in
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  Speaker 4: those efforts... In the 25-26 budget, the voice to parliament referendum.
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  Speaker 1: That was a good one.
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  Speaker 8: Over $ 400.
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  Speaker 5: Million spent on that.
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  Speaker 4: And look, the coalition government, $ 88. 9 billion on JobKeeper over
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  Speaker 4: a pandemic that shouldn't have shut people down and that's
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  Speaker 4: destroyed the livelihood of children and their mental health, et cetera,
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  Speaker 4: who had to live through all of that.
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  Speaker 5: What about a state level? Right? You could keep going
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  Speaker 5: and going.
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  Speaker 4: Victoria, $ 600, 000 on coffee machines, $ 2. 6 million on pot plants.
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  Speaker 4: Then you've got over $ 60, 000 spent on a half-built statue
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  Speaker 4: of Dan Andrews. Plus then let's dive into all the
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: personal perks that these politicians are receiving, right? Family reunion entitlements,
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: thousands of dollars spent on dinners in Paris, com cars waiting.
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  Speaker 5: People have had a gutful of this egregious spending.
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  Speaker 1: I know, and that is why One Nation is at
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: record levels and that is why I am extremely worried
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: and others are extremely excited about the damage they could
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: inflict on Labor at the next Victorian, New South Wales
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  Speaker 1: and federal election. There's a couple of things. I mean,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: one is the childcare stuff is very, very, very, very popular. So, again,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: they're scared to touch that, even though they should. The
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: NDIS stuff, the Greens are holding them to ransom, not
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: because they're not cutting enough, because they're cutting too much.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: The Greens don't want to see any cuts whatsoever and
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: the government will then have to endure... the spectacle of
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: the Greens rolling out disabled people to say to the government,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: why are you cutting my money? How are you doing
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: this to me? You know, first I blah, blah, blah.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Now this and you'll get all those sob stories. And so, again,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying this is
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: why it is so tough for governments right across the
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: world to make any of these cuts in the biggest
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: spending areas. And again, we talked about, you know, the
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: biggest spending areas. Defence is one of the biggest and
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: we need to actually spend more money there. But when
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: the government says we're going to sell Victoria Barracks, which
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I do not think they should do, don't get me wrong,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: but when they say we're going to sell Victoria Barracks
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: to raise more money so we're not spending as much
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: and recouping money, people say, oh, no, you can't do that,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: not that one.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: But that's selling an asset in order to try and
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: get money as opposed to cutting the spending that you've
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: got in front of you. The problem is governments need
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: to gain some testicular fortitude.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: And say, we're actually going to do it.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: And it may take a certain level of bipartisanship on
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: that matter because then, you know, voters won't have a
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: choice of saying, well, that mob's going to spend lots
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: of money and that won't. But someone has the guts,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: needs to have the guts to say... that the way
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: spending is going at the moment is simply unsustainable.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: They won't do that.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: They won't do that because they're more invested in vote-grabbing
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: than they are in actually doing it right for the
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: economy and the country long-term.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I think that is exactly the problem. And also, you know,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: on the other side, if they do do anything, you
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: don't get people saying, all right, well, you know, I'll
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: cop it for the sake of the country. People will
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: go ballistic. Again, we just heard today Andy Burnham, the
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: new PM... in the UK, also of a Labor government,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: has said it is no longer sustainable for us to
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: have this message. I think it's called the triple lock
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: system where pensions, aged pensions, are indexed to whatever is
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: the highest of wages growth or CPI or 2.5%. So
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: it can never get lower than 2.5% each year. And
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: if CPI or wages are higher than that, it goes
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: to that higher mark. Now, you could say anyone who's
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: looked at the books would know The UK's books are cooked.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: They need to cut this spending. Admittedly, he wants to
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: spend it on this ridiculous other social welfare program, but.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Well, their welfare spending has exceeded their tax revenue.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: That's right. Now they're trying to say that's how they're
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: going to pay for it. But, again, you're going to
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: have an army of elderly people, pensioners, grandmas, out there saying,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: you are there on your X $ 100, 000 salary telling me
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I can't get a 2.5% increase on my age pension. And, again,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: this is... I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: this is why it's so hard for politicians of both
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: stripes to actually make any tough cost-cutting decisions. Sure.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: You've also got to be judicious about where you cut,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Which is why I would say probably not veterans and grandmas,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I would say.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: It's probably not the place to go.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: If you're really into it. Speaking of great optics, I...
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you know this, but just as
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Albo is an honorary member of the Royal and Ancient
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Marrickville Public Golf Club, I am an honorary member of
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the Narooma Caravan Park. Are you? I think so. I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: think so. I think they've got my picture up behind
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the counter. I stayed there once, OK? I stayed there.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I stayed there and they gave me a discount. That's
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: like an honorary membership. Well, is that lovely.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: And then?
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: And I think there was a bit of a selfie.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: That's honourable. You know, that counts. Fair enough. Anyway, so
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I am 100% as the official ambassador for the Narooma
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Caravan Park. I am backing this incredible new move to...
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: like this, give heritage listing to a pay phone, to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: give heritage listing to a Telstra phone in Narooma. And
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: it's not because it's a particularly old phone. It's not,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: as you can see there, it's not exactly made, you know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it's not exactly Alexander Graham Bell. It's the standard orange
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: phone booth that you would have seen everywhere, the ones
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: that Superman can't get changed in. But it is a
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: phone booth that has such a... an important meaning and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: stake in the town's history because during the Black Summer bushfires,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: this was where everyone had to come to to get
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: any contact with the outside world because the mobile services
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: were down. So the only way they could reach their
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: loved ones was to call them on this old school
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: phone that probably most of them would have used for
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: years and years and years and years. And far from
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: this being Because a lot of the phones, you know, people,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Telstra's been saying, oh, we just decommission them because no
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: one's using them. So, you know, there were heaps and
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: heaps of people all needed to use this one phone.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: And far from it being a sort of, you know,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Boxing Day sales kind of, you know, elbows and fingernails
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: at dawn, apparently it was a really lovely place for
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: people to just come, hang out, talk, have a cup
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: of tea, have something to eat and just find out
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: how the community that they're in, the Narooma community as well,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: of which I am a proud ambassador, is also getting along.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Should it be heritage listed? Let's get down to brass tacks.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Probably not, but still.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: No, it's beautiful.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: They're going to kick you out of that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. It's not, yes, the plastic
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: orange dome, no. You know, the aluminium or whatever it is,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the perspex, you know, no. But the feeling of it,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and isn't that what heritage is, how we feel about something,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: what it says about our history? Yeah.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I honestly don't see the issue.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: I'd I think fair play to them for Heritage listing
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: it because it became and is now a symbol of
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: the resilience of the community. At one of their toughest times,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: that was the only way they could connect with the
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: rest of the world. And what a quaint idea that
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: everyone had to go and use a payphone again. But
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: it actually means something to the community of Nauruoma. And
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: so a level of protection that means that that is
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: always there as some kind of monument to those times,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I think is a good thing.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: I just, I feel like the symbol of their character
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: and resilience is actually still existing within.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: These individuals, right? You're trying to attach sentiment. They're not
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: going to be there forever.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: That phone could be there.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: No, but I'm sure that they have several other memorials
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: and memories and we have the history of these ghastly
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: bushfires embedded within the nation. I don't need to look
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: at a phone box and have said phone box protected.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: to be reminded of the horrors that these people went through.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, look, we've got the photographs of it. I mean,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: do we need these phone boxes heritage listed? I feel
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: like that is something that is genuinely reserved for extraordinary
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: buildings of real historical meaning across the country.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: You know, things like the Victoria Barracks, for example, which
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: I think should be protected.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: They're already heritage listed.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: But a phone box?
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: That, to me, I just feel like if you're going
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: to attach sentiment to everything, we're going to be stuck
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: with a whole bunch of stuff that really is not
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: fit for purpose anymore.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: It's almost a bit beside the point. But you know
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: how you have those historic red phone boxes in London?
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: And we would have had a few here by the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: end of the day. But, like, you look at those,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: they're obviously, you know, genuinely... pieces of history, their historical artefacts.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Do you reckon that, like, 100 years from now, there'll
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: be people saying, oh, my God, look at that beautifully maintained.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Old-fashioned... What was that?
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: plastic and orange plastic phone box?
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: There should be at least a few of them around
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: to remind people of how things were once done. I mean,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm not of the age where I had
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: to worry about this. I had a mobile phone. by
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: the time I was a teenager. But, you know, when
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: you were knocking around in your teenage years, Joe, that
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: would have been your connection to.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Home, right?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: It absolutely was. I remember when we went around Australia
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and to get... We thought this was the most cutting-edge
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: telecommunications technology available. There was a phone booth... with a
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: solar panel on the top in the middle of the
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: desert or somewhere near all over or whatever. And so
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: you could go and you'd take, you would get a
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: pile of 20 cent coins about that big. And that'd
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: get you about 30 seconds and you'd phone home and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: you'd put the coin in every, Yeah, but see, you.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Had to actually pay for it.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: And you'd queue up for it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: You could pay for it back then. Now it's free.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: By the way, we're talking about government spending and cutting that.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: They pay $ 44 million a year to Telstra for that.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: God, you've really done your research.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: On everything, haven't you?
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: I'm pissed, Jo. So much government money, just our money, actually.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: When I lived in Melbourne, out the front of my
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: unit in South Melbourne, there was a payphone. And it
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: was great because, you know, you'd strange people would come
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: and use the payphone.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: And you'd sort of.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I was probably watching... eavesdrop on.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: The conversation and intercept drug deals and all sorts of stuff.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: But also, the payphones actually ring and so I've got
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: the number on my phone and I'd sit out the
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: front and, like, wait for people to come past.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: And I'd ring it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Did they get excited to answer it?
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, people would answer it and all sorts of.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't know our ones did that. I thought that
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: was just in the movie.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, no, no, no, it is real, it is done
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: and I used to get a great deal of entertainment.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Sorry if you.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: happened to be walking past Eastern Road, South Melbourne, when.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I happened to be living there.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Sorry if you got busted by the cops on your
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: last drug deal.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Caleb Bond's fault. I got you.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I would have pranked you.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Now, of course, one of the other things that's been
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: big news today is the fact that the Greens are
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: looking for a new leader. Now, Larissa Waters announced last
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: night that she was stepping down because she has kidney
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: disease and she says that her prospects for recovery are good.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: but she needs a slower pace than what leading a
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: political party allows, and so we wish all the best
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: for her. Now, Sarah Hansen-Young has put her hand up today.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: She says she's throwing her hat in the ring to
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: become the potential leader of the Greens, and as soon
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: as she did that, who was straight out of the
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: blocks to say she'd be doing it? Marine Faruqi, of course,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: one of the craziest people in the Greens, the woman
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: who believes that we need to pay, I should say,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: climate reparations.
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: So we must remember also to lift our gaze. We
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: must start a process of making climate reparations to the
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: global south countries who are most harmed by Australia's contribution
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: to the climate crisis.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: And joining her on her.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, that's a spending initiative.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: No, it isn't.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Definitely approve of, I'm sure.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: And joining her on her ticket to become deputy leader
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: under Marine Faruqi, Nick McKim, who does stuff like.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Well, this... Yes, I'll hit the gritty if I win
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: an election.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: What that means is I'm going to bust out a gritty.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: If you don't know what this means, I will tell
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: you afterwards, but we've.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Held the Senate seat, we've.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Had a win, and I'm going to gritty for the win.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: So things are looking really positive for the Greens, it
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: would seem. The problem for the Greens at the moment,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: I think, and, look, you know, we can argue till
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the cows come home about who needs to be leader.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: But does it really matter at this point?
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Because they've become quite irrelevant, I think, over the last
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: nine months since the rise of One Nation. You know,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: the Greens have not had the same effect on the left.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Of course, people have gone from Labor to One Nation,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: but there's not been any sort of great interest on
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: the left in going to the Greens... I kind of
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: hope they pick Maureen Faruqi. Maybe it'll just blow the
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: whole joint up.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's very tempting to say, all right,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: you want to know what this looks like? You know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: here you go. It's a bit like saying Zoran Mamdani
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: should be mayor of New York. But the difference is,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: of course, Maureen will never probably have any actual power.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Whether she makes the Greens less attractive to a more
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: mainstream audience, I don't know. The Greens vote hasn't actually...
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: gone down much during the rise of One Nation. One
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Nation is cannibalising the coalition vote, obviously, and stealing a
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: bit from Labor. And very much my sense, in the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: sense of anyone with half a brain in the Labor
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Party who's looking at this, knows that this is a blue-collar,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: working-class cohort, no-nonsense, no-bullshit, who look over to the left
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: at the Greens and say, this is not for me.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: And and anything that Labor does that smells of anything
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: of that kind of wanky inner city, you know, university
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: left kind of thing.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: They don't mind doing deals with them when they need to.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Though, Joe. But this is why, again, this is why
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: blue-collar Labor voters who voted Labor all their life are
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: now moving over to One Nation. So that's the problem there.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: But Marine, Nick McKim, wasn't it Nick McKim who, in
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: a discussion about negative gearing... was talking about the grandfathering
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: of existing arrangements. Grandperson? And stopped himself and said, sorry,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I meant grandperson-y.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: That's it?
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't just imagine that.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: That's a real memory.
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: And remember also on the floor of Parliament then when
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: Jacinta Nampajipa-Price came in with the Australian flag and he
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: referred to it as if she's going to come in
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: with that flag.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: What do you mean, that flag?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Like, he is just cuckoo land and Maureen Faruqi obviously
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: equally It's cloud cuckoo leaves.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Who do you think's the most likely, Joe?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Marine Faruqi.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: You do?
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So this is the thing. So the Greens have
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: become so crazily left in recent years.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, Victoria. Remember when we just used to be
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: like tree hunters?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. It is.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: No, we're good. It's great. OK, we want to bulldoze
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: this old forest, you know. I'm going to chain myself
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: in front of it. OK, all right, let's have a conversation.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: But now they are full on, like, actual communists, Stalinists
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: have infiltrated the party, are taking it over and.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Watermelons. Green on the outside, green on the inside.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And very, very much, you know, Marine Faruqi would
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: be of that mould. Don't know if they were ever
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: card-carrying members of the Communist Party of Australia, but that
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: sort of ridiculously left, ridiculously woke... I mean, the big
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: thing with the Greens now is trans issues and they're
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: just tearing themselves apart.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Well, you remember what they did to the co-founder, Drew Hutton,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: who came out and spoke.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: About it and they expelled him from the party.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Which, again, is a very Stalinist thing to do. You
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: purge someone for not being ideologically pure.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: And he said today if they select Maureen Faruqi as
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: the leader of the Greens, the Greens is dead, basically.
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: And this is the political movement that he helped start
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: with Bob Brown... And he's saying it's just, it will
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: cease to be, it's not what I created anymore.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Well, he called them authoritarian, unlikable and aggressive. And it's true.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: That's what they've become.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. They're the free Palestine kind of crowd.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: But Sarah Hansen-Young, no shout?
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: She is considered too moderate. She's considered too, in the
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: eyes of the Greens, Sarah Hansen-Young is too right wing
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to be leader. So it would actually be probably a
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: good result for Australia democracy to in politics if she
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: did actually win.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: But I think.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I don't mind saying that I have now, having lived
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: in three states and voted in three states, in South Australia,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: I had the great pleasure of voting below the line
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: and putting Sarah Hansen and Young dead last.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: And in New South Wales, I did the same thing
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: to Maureen Faruqi. Oh, look at you going! And now
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: it's between the two of them.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: That's right. Next time someone says your vote really counts.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: LAUGHTER Well, let's switch gears now.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Is the most offensive thing that you can call a
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: woman these days beautiful?
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you, if you take a walk.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Down my Instagram page and I'm routinely being called a.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Bigot and a Nazi and a fascist, all because I
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: believe that trans-identified males don't belong in women's.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Sports, I will take a man calling me beautiful every
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: day of the week and twice on Sundays. But apparently
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: it's offended a young 22-year-old finance worker.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: It's erupted on.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: LinkedIn after a man sent an unsolicited message to said
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: finance worker calling her a beautiful lady. Coco Pickering, she's 22,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: she shared a screenshot of the man's message saying it
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: was not a post I would usually make but this
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: behaviour needs to be called out. Miss Pickering said she
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: had only just connected with the man whose identity she
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: chose to hide when he sent the message. And she
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: went on to say it began as a normal professional
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: introduction and ended with an unsolicited comment about my appearance.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: I went to spare you the grief of having to
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: do so to the LinkedIn page. where said post was
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: shared and it's been flooded with comments, over 300 of
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: them of people saying, feel sick hearing of this behaviour
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: on LinkedIn.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: Another one, good on you, needs to be called out.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: Sorry you had to endure that. I mean, is this
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: what we've gotten to now?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I thought the kids of South Sudan had it tough.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I just... I'm sorry.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: Can I just say, though, like, Coco, with all due respect,
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: one day you're going.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: To look like a crusty, dried-up old prune because age
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: is coming for all of us, we are not immune
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: to it, and you will one day think, how absurd
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: was it that I had the brass neck to shame
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: a man for calling me beautiful? Now, I understand the
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: counter-argument to it is... Is this an appropriate setting in
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: which LinkedIn is considered to be a professional kind of
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: business platform in which you should be taken seriously?
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: That's the message.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: And that is the message, of course. You know, he
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: did go on to say, hi, Coco, it's great to
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: connect with you. Looking forward to staying in touch.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: And on a totally different note, may I just say
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: what a beautiful lady you are. And she is gorgeous.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: She's attractive. And her reply is just this lengthy spiel.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Good evening. I find your message completely inappropriate, she said.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: LinkedIn is a professional networking platform and it is genuinely
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: sad that in 2026 a woman still has to be
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: objectified on a platform that is supposed to be about careers,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: experience and professional connections. And she goes on, I want
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: to spare everybody the grief with it, but she mentions
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: if you are looking to flirt with women or comment
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: on how attractive you find them, there are apps specifically
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: designed for that, perhaps Tinder.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: Would be a more suitable place.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: OK. Even if you reply to that, that, by the way,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: is her Instagram profile pic from which I believe the
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: headshot of her LinkedIn account is pulled. But that is
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: not her... To be clear, that is not the image
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: she puts on LinkedIn. LAUGHTER But she cropped that photo specifically.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: That is the photo she cropped to put on LinkedIn.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: That's right. But, again, even if you were that offended
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: by it and you were thinking, I couldn't post this
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: photo and no one's going to compliment me on my
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: looks because that just would never happen in this world,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: why wouldn't you just– like what I think is really,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: really nasty is that she couldn't just say to this guy,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: he's obviously just a bit old-fashioned, maybe a bit of
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: an old fogey, you know, And, you know, maybe just
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: chancing his luck. Who knows? But she could have just said, mate,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: if you want to do that, get on Tinder. Don't
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: message me. And just sent him that message. But to
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: publicly name and shame him and expose him. Well, she
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: didn't name him to shame him. To publicly expose him.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Make an example. Him not knowing, obviously, who would be.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: to drive up this sort of faux outrage. That I find,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: just this need for people to drive outrage over the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: most banal and insignificant things, I find just that, you
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: know what? I find it an ugly quality, Coco. Not
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: a beautiful quality, an ugly quality.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: And what's wrong with a guy having a go anyway?
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: It's not like he.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Said anything inappropriate or crass or rude or.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: You know, all he said was, you're a beautiful lady.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: You know, so what?
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: But you know what?
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: You're on social media. What social media?
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: But, you know, we're on the shelf now, Joe and I.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: We're married and all the rest of it.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, do you find now that it's getting increasingly
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: tough for men to be able to just compliment a
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: woman without fear of being reprimanded for objectifying her?
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I try not to give a toss, really,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: but I'm aware that there are some places that once
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: upon a time it would have been fine... and now
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: you maybe have to trade on eggshells a bit.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: But, look, I don't care.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: What am I going to.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: They're going to complain to HR, you're a beautiful woman.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, thank you.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: See, I'm going to be 40.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: I'll take whatever I can get.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: And here I've said it in a professional place.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: That's right. And also, by the way, if anyone's looking,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: my LinkedIn profile is jollyjo69.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: You would be so lucky, Jo.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: After the break, we'll have a look at tomorrow's papers.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Can you believe the ACT.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Getting the same money as Queensland for coastal protection?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Don't go away.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: All right, let's see what the papers are saying about
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: the interest rate rise today on the front of the
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Daily Telegraph. They've got rates rise again. RBA slams Jim's spin.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Domestic pressures hit over on the advertiser. I must say,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Gemma Jones has done an excellent job of this one,
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: just spelling out exactly what has happened under this government.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: The war? No, Jim, it's you. RBA Gov blows up.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Rate rise delusions. Jim, cops are bullocking as she hiked.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: The rate, as she hiked the cash rate to a
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: 15-year high. RBA Governor Michelle Bullock on Tuesday shot down
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Treasurer Jim Chalmers' claim the war in Iran is at fault,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: instead citing Labor's addiction to spending.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: And you can see there it's gone.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: From 0.85% in June 2022 when the government was elected to,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: of course, that 15-year high. of 4.6% today. And then
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: over on the front of the Herald Sun, they've got
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: it as well. RBA's rate, Razubiuk. Bullock says domestic spending,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: driving inflation, crushing charmers. Charmers spin war is mainly to blame.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: You're full of bull, Jim. But a few other stories
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: to talk about on the front of the Herald Sun tomorrow.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: E-scooters toll on kids.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Victorian parents are being warned e-scooters are not toys after
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: new research revealed more than a quarter of all injured riders... are.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Under the age of 16.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: A joint study by the Royal Melbourne Hospital and the
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: RACV found that 133 of 482 riders injured between November
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: 2025 and May 2026 were under the legal operating age.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I can't say I'm terribly surprised by that.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Can't confirm. All the kids are doing it.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: But it does bring to light this issue. I mean,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: you know, there's all this, oh, we've got to restrict
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: the e-bikes, we've got to restrict the e-scooters.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: But How do the kids get them?
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Of course, their parents are buying them. Exactly.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: But they're also being spurred on by the government who
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: are offering subsidies for it too, right? So how do
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: you get control of this now when you've got these
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: parents who are shelling out thousands of dollars on these
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: things for their kids? And it's not only causing injury,
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: but then just the havoc that they're wreaking on the
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: streets as well.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: People are being injured as they're colliding with them on footpaths.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: It's just, it's terrible.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the green bikes as well, the
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: e-bikes as well, kids are getting on those too, even
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: though they're not.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, the lime ones.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: The lime ones, very annoying. And then they all leave
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: them out the front of my house.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: And they're easy to move, aren't they?
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: They are, as I found out, especially if you don't
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: have the app.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: You think as they won't go.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Also on the front of the Herald Sun tomorrow, and
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I note there in between these two stories, it says
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Twist in Swan's Sexual Assault Probe. I'll be interested to
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: read that exclusive on page seven tomorrow. But next to it,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: tobacco laws lack puff, exclusive.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: From Carly Douglas. Good friend of mine, you'll be glad
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: to know, Joe.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Victoria's much-hyped new tobacco closure powers are shut. Just 22
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: shops in 10 days, despite being billed as the toughest
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: in the nation. The state government has closed an average
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: of two stores a day since laws came into effect.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: In September.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Despite thousands of retailers being suspected of selling illegal tobacco products.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: They're really on.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: The ball, aren't they? Yeah, what can I say? Ten days.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: But still, two a day. Like, come on. Surely day one,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: day one, it's all hands on deck. You're out there.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: You basically shut every tobacco.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: You're Elliot Ness. You're going in there with the axe.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, they don't have too many smoko breaks for $ 10
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: a pack.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Bait breaks. Again, the Courier-Mail has gone with the same
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: story and I don't think it's going to be the
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: last they hear of it. Interest rates hit new 15-year mark,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: domestic spending driving inflation, but it's not my fault, says
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Jim Chalmers slash Robin Williams in Goodwill Hunting. Meanwhile, how
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: is this for just the yarn and a half? Everyone knows...
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: And obviously we're talking about a Queensland newspaper here, but
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: everyone knows if there is any place in the country,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: and I say this as someone in New South Wales, fair, fair,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: you know, we've got to put rivalries aside. There's anywhere
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: in the country that is known for its incredible, beautiful, majestic,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: pristine coastlines. It's Canberra.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: And I'm a Canberra girl too, right?
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Get this. Coastline Cash Con by Hayden Johnson, great friend
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: of mine, just haven't met him yet. The landlocked Australian
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Capital Territory, this is unbelievable, receives the same amount of
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: cash per person for coastal protection as Queensland under a
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: bizarre GST carve-up that Treasurer David Janetsky says is laughable.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Mr Janetsky... We'll use a landmark National Press Club address
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: today to attack the GST distribution. Arcane wizards, I think,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: was how Bob Carr once described the Commonwealth Grants Commission.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: I can't wait for Roger Cook to weigh in on
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: this and call us all clowns.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Although they do have... To be fair, the ACTU does
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: have Jervis Bay.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Correct, yes.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Batemans Bay.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: They don't have Batemans Bay.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: They don't have Batemans Bay.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: It's just Jervis Bay.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: They've got Jervis Bay Territory.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: So they've got a naval base.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: But it's run under ACT law, and I think people
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: in Jervis Bay Territory vote in the ACT.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I'm not sure that they actually.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Administer it in any serious way because the land was
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: handed over to the Commonwealth.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: The federal government. Yeah, that's right.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: So how can you justify giving the same amount of
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: money in GST for coastal protection as Queensland to the ACT.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: It's insane.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Like Burley Griffith this time of year.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Bunch of trolleys floating around.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: When the green algae hasn't taken it over. Oh, yeah.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Leave my state alone.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: All right, let's look elsewhere down in Tasmania on the
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: front pages of the Mercury magazine. Feared for my life,
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Grace Tame's dramatic witness stand evidence. Convicted Tasmanian pedophile and
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: former teacher Nico Bester kept media articles featuring victim-survivor Grace
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Tame on a computer file titled, and I quote, and
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: sent Facebook messages exchanged with the then 15-year-old student to
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: high-profile Australian journalist Bettina Arndt. A Hobart court has heard
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Nicholas Ockert Bester faces three counts of using.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: A carriage surface.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: To menace, harass or cause offence relating to social media
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: posts that allegedly targeted Miss Tame in 2022, the 74-year-old
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: defendant appeared via audio-visual link in the Hobart Magistrates' Court
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: on Tuesday. And you can see the full story on
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: page five of The Mercury tomorrow.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: And I also note on the front of The Mercury
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: a nice photo of David Boone there.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, Booney. You know, Booney's... Record still stands.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's filling in for Mark Baird now as
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: well after he's left as chairman of Cricket Australia.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you meant up the front of the plane,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: 52 titties on the way to London.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: No, Mark Baird did that.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Mark Baird might give that a go.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: But anyway, on the front of the NT News tomorrow,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: top silk to tackle Luke.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: This has been going on for a while now. Sydney
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Barrister to prosecute Gosling.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: The prosecutor who helped convict former New South Wales Labor
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Minister Eddie Obeid will run the case against NT Labor
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: MP Luke Gosling, who faces assault and bail breach charges.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: That is Sophie Callan SC.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: It's a clear example of anti-Labor bias.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Indeed. I mean, it's been a big problem because the
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: DPP in the Northern Territory refused to prosecute the case
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: because of a perceived conflict of interest, which they've not
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: told us.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: What it is.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: And they've been trying their darndest to get a prosecutor
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: and they've been failing.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: At least finally they've got one now.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Because this case has quite a bit of public interest.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure if there is actually a conflict
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: of interest or if it's just that Darwin is such
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: a small, close-knit community that a big deal like a
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: federal government minister in that town obviously..... might be difficult
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: to find someone who would have no prior dealings with
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: them or have something riding on it or whatever.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: It's also worth mentioning Luke Gosling has.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: he' s denied all of these charges against him.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Or he did it and he was right to do it.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I was saying... Don't be... No, OK.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Alleged.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Alleged. Alleged.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Anyway, all right, after the break, I mentioned you're off
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: on safari, having the time of your life, and then
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: you start getting terrorised by a rhino.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Might make you think twice.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: About going on a trip to South Africa.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Don't go away.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Now, look, Joe has a story about a pastor in
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: the US, but before we get there, can I tell
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: a pastor joke?
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Please.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Different spelling of pastor, and I'm stealing this one from
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: the great Kerry O'Keefe.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: But, you know, I told my wife... I don't have one,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: but for the purpose of the joke.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: You will, Mum.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I told my wife that I was going to make
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: a car out of spaghetti and she didn't believe me.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Should have seen her face when she saw me driving
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: past her.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: That is just... You know what that joke is? Pastor
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: non grata. You should see yourself out.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: See yourself out.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: To the other spelling of pastor.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is a pastor, as in a minister
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: of the Lord, in beautiful downtown Kansas in the United States.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: So it's the frontier, the wild western plains. And call
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: me old-fashioned, but I liked it when the woke people
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: in the US were all the hipsters in New York
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and the evangelical pastors were all the Bible-bashing Republicans. But no,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: this pastor is now running against the Republicans as a
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Democrat because he has got woke himself. Have a look
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: at this.
• 46:23
  Speaker 10: Today's sermon will be part science lesson and then part
• 46:25
  Speaker 10: Bible study. And finally, we're going to ask, what would
• 46:28
  Speaker 10: Jesus say about climate change? So what I'm calling you
• 46:31
  Speaker 10: to today, and I'm calling myself to it because I've
• 46:33
  Speaker 10: been wasteful. I've done things that wasn't, you know, I
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: didn't think about it, how it wasn't really good stewardship
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: of the earth around me. I'm calling us to repentance,
• 46:41
  Speaker 10: to say, I realize that this has impact, even if
• 46:45
  Speaker 10: it seems small, it has an impact on the world
• 46:47
  Speaker 10: and future generations. And I feel badly about that. And
• 46:50
  Speaker 10: I'm going to do something different from this time forward.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, and among those things that he called on the
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: congregation to repent for, that's a magnificent expression on your face, Lucy,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: is driving and eating beef.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Oh!
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: What kind of evangelical Kansas... The preacher doesn't like driving.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: The blokes are heretic, let's be honest.
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  Speaker 4: And it goes down in the category with Tallarico and
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  Speaker 4: there was another pastor talking about, you know, Jesus and
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: God was non-binary.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, just stop.
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  Speaker 1: Science has no place in the Bible.
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  Speaker 5: Science, okay, stop it. Speaking of science, how about this?
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  Speaker 4: So we brought you some vision last night of this
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  Speaker 4: drone cleaning the windows of the launch pad for people
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  Speaker 4: the SpaceX Starship, which actually completed its successful orbit. And
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: we want to show you some of this brilliant footage
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  Speaker 4: that we saw of it splashing down in the Pacific
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  Speaker 4: Ocean after orbiting the Earth for about three hours.
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  Speaker 2: And it's looking beautiful with the lighting right now.
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  Speaker 1: Starting the pitch over. And there's the sound.
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  Speaker 10: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: We are vibrating like crazy right now.
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  Speaker 4: Now, exciting for everybody watching at launch, but if you're
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  Speaker 4: that bloke living in that apartment within range, you can
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  Speaker 4: feel the whole place shaking.
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  Speaker 1: If you've lived under a flight path in the inner west,
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  Speaker 1: that's nothing. You're right, you're right. That is nothing. I
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: could sleep through that.
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  Speaker 3: It may scare you, though, and I'll tell you what
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: else will probably scare you, if you had this experience
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: in Namibia. He's a tourist on a self-drive safari and
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: this rhino, black rhino, comes up, starts going.
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  Speaker 2: Ham on the car. Jeez, I think you'd need new
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: underwear after that.
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  Speaker 5: Wouldn't you? No, thanks. And potentially a new car.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yes, at least you can write that off on insurance.
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  Speaker 1: And a new Namibia, I think. Because my own Namibia,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I think, could be a bit soiled after that.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see if Joe can get his Land Cruiser going
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  Speaker 3: again so he can take it over there.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us tonight. Up next, the Rita
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  Speaker 2: Panahy show.
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  Speaker 1: Good night.