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Reaction to the NBA Finals so far & Ranking NBA Finals MVPs! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number fifty
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one of the so called Sports Channelist Josh, how you doing. I'm doing
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pretty good, man. You know, I can't complain, you know,
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just a mad league, just pissing me off today. I don't know what
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to do. But you know, we're here. We're filming episode number fifty
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one, the Bowbon episode. However you want to listen. We're getting up
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there, man, We're getting up there, you know. So we're just
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doing this. This is another episode about to talk about the finals, how
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it's going, not going good for one side, going good great for the
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other. So we'll get into it, yes, sir, But before we
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it to anybody who likes sports. But let's go and get into it.
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And before we get into finals, talk here we're gonna talk about as far
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as some NBA news that's been happening, and the first thing that's happened,
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Well, there's a bunch that's been happening. First, we talked about last
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week Jj Reddick he was gonna be the Lakers next head coach. Then Dan
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Hurley in the middle of the week was supposed to accept the Lakers' offer,
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which was six years, seventy million dollars, and then he declined it.
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So do you think this is more about the Lakers or just Dan Hurley wanting
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to go back. I think it's more about Dan Hurley not wanting to leave
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like a good situation. I mean, how can we really blame him.
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He's coming off back to back national titles, So you know, it's why
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leave something that's on top right now and when you can keep it on top
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it cubmit yourself as one of the greatest collegiate basketball coaches in the history of
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collegiate basketball. So yeah, I get it. There's a lot of pressure
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when you become the Lakers head coach. It's the most famous organization in all
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of basketball, to the Los Angeles Lakers, no matter how mediocre they are.
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But you know they're the most famous. That was a shot. I'm
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sorry, but but you know they're the number one. And when it comes
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with that, you're also coaching the best player in the world, or the
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usual best player in the world, the goat Lebron James, and I just
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think that comes with a lot of pressure, especially a coach coming from the
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college ranks to coaching a professional team with that much magnazee around it, and
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especially this much expectations. I feel like for him, it would have been
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better to go to like a Charlotte, you know, to a rebuilding team,
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you know, where he can kind of take control. But if he
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goes there, he has a step in a win now. And I think
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that's probably a bast situation for a lot of coaches because this may be your
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first opportunity, but your first opportunity can lead to no more opportunities if you
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don't do get there. Yeah, exactly, he could have been a one
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and done coach. And look at the Lakers history. They've had Frank Vogel,
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even though he won a championship, he was there three years, I
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believe, then Darvin Ham he had two years. So it's a short leash
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that you have. Even though you're guaranteed all this money here, it really
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doesn't mean nothing. And so yeah, I agree with you going to a
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lesser situation. And I'm gonna say this, I think the Lakers they are
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a playing team. I decided to comment, but I think they're a playing
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team no matter what. Unless they make drastic moves, unless they get a
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Donovan Mitchell or somebody in the offseason, then they're gonna just be a playing
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team. Because Lebron he's getting up there in age ad injury concerns. But
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the bigger thing I want to talk about. I know people they talk about
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Drake, Kendrick, Lamar, Chris Brown, Quavo. The real beef here
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is between Shams and WOJ. I don't know if you've been keeping up with
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this, Josh, but so Shams reported the whole jj Reddick thing. Then
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Woj she basically said, nah, it's this and Shams he's kind of firing
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some shots back he is. So I got a quick question for you,
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Shams are Woch which side are you on here? I'm with Woes Bro gotta
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go with the o g the go to the game, you know, the
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foundation, the founder, the Mount rushmore of all breaking insider of sports insiders.
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It's him and Adam Schefter's world and we're just all living in it.
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You know, that's just that's just how I That's just how I see it.
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You know, there's there's ianp Report, there's Shams, there's Brian Windhorst.
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There's all these guys that break news all the time. But they're just
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not woes. They're not woes. Bro. You know, I get Shams.
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Shams is cool. He pulls k Adams all love to that. You
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know, I loved him. Shout out, shout out Kay Adams respectfully.
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You know you got Kay Adams. You know, if you're listening to this
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pot, I can treat you right. You know, I can't give you
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a lot, but I can treat you right. You know, you know,
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woose are the o g Sham? Shams is cool. I messed with
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Shams, but I don't know. I just gotta go with woes. You
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know, he's gotta go with the goats. I guess I guess you what
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the old heads here you're thinking, oh, this is Michael Jordan. He
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is the one that started all na Shams's is the lebron is taking over?
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You know what wol Is just saying him, well, I'll run your trap,
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like running your work for somebody, get hurt. Fuck running or getting
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clapped. That's what he's saying right now. I ain't cool with these dudes.
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I don't fuck with these dudes. That's what he's saying right now.
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Bro, Nah, that's Ja Cole. He'd apologize. I want to show
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no love. I don't want to give no doubt. You would apologize.
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Ja Cole would apologize. Stop, bro, stop, we're not talking about
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that. These other guys are talking about molestation and perversion on their side.
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Ja Cole was like, I'm not messing with none of that. So in
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reality, respect you like it, respected, like not even messing with what
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they were arguing about. Yeah, no, Ja Cole definitely did make the
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right decision here. He wanted to just beef these guys. They just hate
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each other. Yeah, he hate any of y'all. Like he's like,
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I'm just trying to have some fun here, to make fun of my dreams.
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I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be in there. Okay, No,
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but wo woes all day wos Okay, Well, I'm team Shams and again
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the Ky Adams that's a pool. That's another thing that's that's like, that's
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like Batman. Now he has don't think No, I don't, I don't
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think so. I don't know, Bro, he got ten I know he
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got tins. Bro, I don't know. I don't know. He may
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just be that one guy. It's like, damn really him. Maybe maybe
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that's was wose guys that unspoken riz Bro, I I can see that.
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I can see that. I can see that. No, but that's gonna
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move on to this next, next one right here. Okay, the Pistons
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are expected to offer Kate Cunningham a max contract of five years, two hundred
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and twenty six million dollars in this offseason. So do you think that's a
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smart move there for the Pistons. I mean, you gotta sign somebody who
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think's gonna be your future. But the thing is he's played great. But
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if you're gonna sign them to this contract, that means you gotta put pieces
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around him that will contribute or get a competent head coach, which is crazy
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because they just had Monty Williams. I thought he was gonna be sufficient enough
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to lead this team, but it just didn't work out and now he's kind
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of gone, So I don't know. It's it's a good move for them,
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secure your superstar, secure your foundation piece. But does Kate Cunningham scream
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superstar to you like that? I don't. He doesn't. He doesn't to
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me right now at all. He hasn't proven to me ever, even showed
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glimpses like we've when he was when the Tim Rulves were bad, showed signs.
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Winby showed a lot of signs like there's been players recently who have like
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been on lower teams, but you knew they were going to turn into that
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guy, especially even even Shay showed signs last year, you know. So
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it's just I need to see more from him for me to respect the contract
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and respect the move, because they are they were the worst team in the
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NBA last year for the majority of the year. And even so, it's
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just it's hard for me to say if it's a good move or not.
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But if you secure this foundation and make someone believe in the team like you
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are with k Cunningham by giving him that much money, maybe other guys buy
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in. Yeah, And okay, when he does play, he is a
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good player. I wouldn't say great, Like you were saying, he doesn't
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scream superstar. I feel like he could be a number two anywhere else.
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Twenty three points a game, four and a half rebounds, seven and a
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half, assists, forty five percent from the field on sixty two games,
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being on the worst, one of the worst rosters in the league. That's
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damn good. But like you were saying, duh, you have you have
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to pay him because you can't draft nobody else. Apparently, over these past
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few years, maybe Jade and Ivy, he's getting a little bit better.
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We'll see what happens with the Thompson twin and potentially in the offseason we'll see
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any moves they could make. But there's no there's no game changing move for
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the Pistons where it's like, Okay, they're going to be a playing team
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now, and then no superstar wants to go there. I'm sure no star
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wants to go there. They want to go to a contender. So yeah,
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exactly. And I just hated that now that every single player who's just
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good he gets a max contract, Like he got a max contract. I
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don't like that about the NBA. I get everything's guaranteed, but I get
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because there's less players, you can give them bigger contracts. But it's also
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kind of stupid, Like I think there should be more negotiation instead of already
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having max steels set because the NFL, it makes it good to see.
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I think it makes it interesting having negotiations players holding out players. I get
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it's bad for you, your team. If it's happening to your team,
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it's not fun for nobody, Like I'm sure you would like fun for everybody
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else. Yeah, yeah, it's fun for everybody else because like, is
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this guy gonna leave, is he gonna get traded, Is he gonna stay
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on this team? Or is he gonna sign that contract? Is he gonna
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take a pay cut? You know? So it's kind of like it would
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make it way more interesting. In the NBA, players were able just to
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like negotiate more on their contract instead of the teams be like, hey,
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we'll just give you this remak because you qualify for it. Yeah, yeah,
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exactly. And I think that's just the NBA. After the Golden State
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Warriors, after they created that super team, they're like, all right,
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we're gonna make sure players they don't leave, they don't leave from here no
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more. They're gonna be willing to take another forty fifty million dollars from the
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franchise they got drafted to. Even if it's a worse situation like what can't
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what kid cutting him? He's gonna be in. But I don't know.
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We'll we'll see in this draft right here. But speaking of that, the
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Spurs, there's rumors, there's rumors, it's not it's not a official,
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but the Spurs are exploring the idea of trading the number four pick and the
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number eight I believe to potentially go up to number one. So Josh,
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how are you feeling about that right there? I don't think we should trade
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both picks, at least keep the eighth overall pick, but I think we
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should trade maybe the fourth overall pick a future first and maybe like I don't
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know, Keldon Johnson or something I get got most first fans. I don't
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think Keldon Johnson's gonna be there anymore after this season. It just doesn't work
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well unless he wants to take a bench roll, and I think that's probably
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best for him, honestly, But if we like not saying he's not a
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starter level player, but like he would be great to come off the bench
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for this team, how it's set up. Alexander Sar, I think is
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what they would aim for, or Zachary Rest one of the French players.
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I don't want to say his last name, something like that. Yeah,
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yeah, Alexandri Sar. He he can play. He has a good mid
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range, he has a good post. He's a good offensive player, a
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rebound. It'll be good a pairent with Wimby because he could kind of open
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up the floor a little bit. Also he can shoot, so I can
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see them amy for that. And then for Zacharya, I think he's a
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great defensive three and D player right now, and I think he developed into
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a little bit more. I think he could have a Michael Porter type offensive
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game with kind of like a little bit more passability, and that's I think
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that's a good player. I think that's yeah, yeah, so I think
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he can develop into that. It just do you. I don't know if
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you sell out for this draft. This draft, I don't think you sell
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out for like next year. Maybe when you can have like a Cooper flag
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or something like that. Yeah, that's when you can probably go for.
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But I think the Spurs are trying to play for play a little bit closer
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than now, so they don't get a little bit restless with Wimby, like
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kind of just show some improvement. But as a Spurs fan, do I
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want to trade both picks? I don't think so. But also having another
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like Alexandra Starr to pair with a Wimby would go a long way, because
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I've been saying we need a big man more than a point guard, and
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people are argue with me about that. But if you want to just get
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destroyed on the interior defense to believe when we was off the we kind of
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need another big man. So I don't know how to feel about it.
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I really don't know, and I really who who would the Hawks be giving
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up to? Is just the first pick? You know, I want?
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You want one of the point guards if we're getting this, So it's probably
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gonna be a massive trade if this does happen. Yeah, I don't think.
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I feel like it would be something different with the Desjonte Murray and Trey
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Trey Young, but I would really like Alexander sar here next to Wimby.
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Like you were saying, I don't have to bring up everything else that you
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brought, but it just really changes the landscape of basketball the Spurs, they
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would be going in an entire different direction, going from the small ball lineups
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to now you have to seven foot two guys on the floor at the same
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time who can stretch the floor. But then we would also have Jeremy Sohan
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who's six' ten at the three, Devin like the two who's six six
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six at sixty six, and whoever point guard. Yeah, so a massive
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defensive lineup we would immediately have going into next season. Yeah, exactly,
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So would change the entire game. So maybe maybe the one thing I'll say
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the Spurs are really good at developing players. That's one thing where it's never
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been like, oh, well they missed completely. They've never really done that,
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especially with their staff. So maybe they know some things obviously that we
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don't. But it's going to be interesting to see. But as far as
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more with the Hawks, so I know there's a whole Trey Young Dejohntay Murray
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trade rumors, but they're also expected to be trading DeAndre Hunter and Clint Capella.
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So this doesn't necessarily mean that they're selling out or they're buying in necessarily
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to try to go all in next year. So what do you think they're
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more leaning towards because these players they haven't been performing as well. I think
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whatever point guard they keep, they're going to lead towards his strengths a lot
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more so. I think that that kind of dictates whether they keep a Clint
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Compell or DeAndre Hunter. Yeah, because I think a lot of other players
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have stepp up on that team. Like who's that one player I always talk
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about, Oh my gosh, Bro Johnson Johnson. His last name is Johnson.
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Yeah, Jalen Johnson, Jalen Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. But whenever
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he's healthy, he does it all. Like he's a stat stuffer. Dude
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plays the ball very well. And when he whenever he's on the court,
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we see kind of DeAndre Hunting and fade away, we see Clinton because he
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can do it all. So I don't think they're worried too much. I
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think they know they have the depth on the team to maybe build something.
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Yeah, no matter which players are they gonna pick and which player are they
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gonna get rid of it, I think that's gonna lead towards more of whether
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you keep Trey Young or you keep Dejoon say Murray, and I'll say this,
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I feel like it's gonna be easier to build around de Jontay Murray than
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Trey Young because de Jontay Murray he's not a liability defensively, So with Trey
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Young, you could trade him who I feel like you get more trade value
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out of since he's so much younger and has more potential. So maybe you
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go to I'm just trying to think off the top of my head, maybe
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the Lakers they end up trading for him, you could get a Jared Vanderbilt,
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Ruey Hachima, a couple of two three pieces in a first round pick
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somewhere along those lines, and that'll really go nice alongside de Jontey Murray.
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So again, I don't think it'll work so well. I don't think it's
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gonna be, oh, this is gonna lead them to the championship, but
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it'll lead them to a playoff birth I'll say that. Definitely not a playing
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team. But as far as another thing right here, So during the finals,
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Shaq he was talking to Jaylen Brown and he I don't remember the exact
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words that he said, but he was basically saying, hey, don't worry
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about titles. I wasn't even the best player on my championship run. So
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looking looking back on that, he's a he's wrong. He said Angel Reis
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was the greatest athletes to ever come out of this year. I don't take
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anything Shack says for shiit anymore. Bro, Like it's just idiocracy. Like
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I get maybe if you want to look in their primes and compare Kobe and
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Shack, But at that time, sorry, I'm like totally cutting off what
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stats you were ever gonna bring up. But I'm a i'm i'm a,
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i'm A you're good. I'm gonna go crazy right now, Bro, didn't
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we do? What did we do? Most dominant finals? We did it
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earlier when we first started doing pods together. Ye, Shack had the greatest
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like finals of all time or the greatest seasons, greatest seasons by players.
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We did, greatest seasons by a player, and he had probably the greatest
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season in the history of the NBA, Top three, greatest season history in
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NBA. You know what he was during those finals runs, during those ones
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with Kobe. Kobe was a number two option at that time, Shack was
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averaging like thirty two thirty thirty five point thirty six point, some like fifteen
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rebounds, in the finals, talk about the best player on the court.
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You were the best player on the court, Dude, everything ran through you.
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I don't want to hear that. Like, he's just a person of
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the period. Just like when everyone started putting Kobe Bryant as to go after
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the situation, I must sound like an asshole, but it's the truth,
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you know. Like so so now he's doing the same thing now because he
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doesn't want to seem like an asshole being all cocky, and he wants to
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make Jalen Brown feel good. When Jaylen Brown's been out balling Jayson Tatum this
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entire playoffs, I'm just saying, like, not this entire playoffs, but
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the last two series, Jalen Brown's been stepping up. Let him get his
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credit where his credit is due. So I don't know, he's just been
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saying a lot of crazy stuff, like especially injur Reach the greatest athlete of
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LSU, Like, well, that's a whole other topic we could talk about,
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but this one right here. Nah, he's just talking. He's just
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talking. Yeah, there's definitely a lot of revisionist history. And again he's
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just saying a bunch of stuff here, And I'm not I'm not going to
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get into it because it's going to lead them to our conversation a little bit
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later. But I feel like this happens with every single every single athlete who's
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they they made this great run or whatever. As far as let's say,
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for instance, I'm trying to think of let's say the Dallas, the Dallas
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Mavericks, they said whenever they first run won the championship, oh, it
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could have possibly possibly been a fluke run or whatever. And now they're saying,
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oh, well, they were supposed to get here. They were supposed
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to get here. So it's just everything after revisionist history, it's like,
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oh, yeah, that was supposed to happen. Or now seeing Kobe's career,
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oh yeah, that was supposed to happen. So it happens all the
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time. But okay, speaking of that, I don't know if you have
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any more to say. I want to get into the whole lineup thing.
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No, I think it's just people become a prisoner of the moment. Yeah,
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the prisoner of the city situation right now, because I guarantee you if
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Kobe was still alive, he wouldn't be saying that he would he would be
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saying I was the best player. You know he wouldn't. It's just it's
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just the truth. You don't want to sound disrespectful. That's what he's doing.
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I'll sound disrespectful. Shaq. You were the best player on that team.
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I don't care. Shaq, you were the best player on that team.
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And it wasn't even close. Kobe was Kobe was a dog. Kobe
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was the number one on any other team. He was like Kyrie and Luca.
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Let's just say that Kyrie's number two to Luca. Kobe at that time
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was the Kyrie to your Luca. Let's just say that. That's that's fair,
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right there, Yeah, that's fair. No, But all right,
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let's let's go ahead and get into this right here. So I know we're
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talking about it in the group chat, but as far as lineups in their
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prime, we have to pick a starting lineup that could beat this lineup.
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So at the point, guard Lebron James, shooting guard Michael Jordan, small
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Ford, Kevin Durant, power forward Kevin Garnett, center Shack Okay, Josh,
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we have to construct I know we talked about it, but this is
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official. This is gonna be our official roster here, So we're putting we're
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putting Tim Duncan to bust that boy Kg's ass. We're just gonna put that
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right. I feel like Tim Duncan and Hakeem those are given right, yeah,
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Hacke And because also Shaq said Hakeem was the hardest player he's ever guarded
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or played against. So we're gonna do that. And then also he said
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the same thing about Tim Duncan also, so we can just swap whenever,
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whenever like to. So he says he couldn't guard Tim Duncan, you know.
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So it's like, yeah, it's just it's almost neutralized what they're doing.
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And I think Tim Duncan, this is just me. I know there's
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a bunch of different talk on Twitter, but Tim Duncan I feel like he's
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the levels ahead of Kevin Garnett. There's no there's no debate. Who know,
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because they was some time period. There was some time period. Don't
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don't ask me when when people they were trying to say Kevin Garnett he's a
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top three power forward or potentially better than Tim Duncan. I won't forgive him.
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People were saying Ad was better than Tim Duncan. I'm not gonna forget
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about that. Yeah, so after the bubble rude, right, if we
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want to add up Derek's rings, Karl Malone's rings, Kevin Garnett's rings,
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Anthony Davis rings, they still don't have enough to compare. So I'm not
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even gonna talk about it now. He played against three different eras, so
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I don't even want to hear about it. He wanted to ring in three
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different eras, three different decades. So thirty nine, two thousand, yeah,
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yeah he did damn. So so he was generational. I'm just saying,
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let's just say that. I know this is off topic, but if
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Tim Duncan and the Spurs they won in twenty twelve, no, twenty thirteen,
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he'd be six like yeah, he'd be six for six, and I
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feel like people would be talking gold talk, Golt talk instead of saying,
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oh, he's around eight yeah, or he's around the fire best defensive player
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in history and then six rings and then no d P O wise, that's
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what he was, brob. He was. Yeah, I know he was
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selections, but no defensive player. It makes no sense. But it's all
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right, we'll just get back to the topic. That's a conversation for another
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conversation for another day. So for our power forward the center, we have
23:22
Tim Duncan and the team, we have to get Kobe here as our two
23:26
guard right to go. Michael Jordan. Yeah, we need him to show
23:30
sell them old heads what's up for real? Yeah, exactly, we should
23:33
have just got DeMar Dero. Honestly, Dave, Michael Jordan f that let's
23:41
just put freaking Nick Young on him and watch him busses ass brouj reddick jj
23:49
reddick. We'll put Kobe right there, Kobe. Yeah, Michael Jordan's not
23:55
gonna say it's a wash, but I know what sim leaning towards. It's
23:57
it's pretty much. It's pretty much. Is so all right, we have
24:02
our point guard open who would be going U against Lebron and are small forward
24:07
open. So I know I talk I know I talked about opposing I propose
24:11
your idea. I'm saying it so I'm not the one I want to propose
24:15
an idea. I want to put Wimby at the three. I want to
24:19
put Winby at the three. And the main reason why I'm saying that is
24:22
because he has no defensive weakness. He may not be the offensive player that
24:30
KD is. But you have Tim Duncan, Keim and Kobe, so you
24:33
don't you don't need him to be that. He could guard other than Shack.
24:37
He could guard one through four. He can, So I mean,
24:41
I'm saying at the track, I'm not saying she's not guard. He's guarding
24:45
Shack. But he did, he'd get bodied. If he get bodied,
24:49
he can make up ground pretty fast. So he can make up ground pretty
24:53
fast. But if Shaq throws him into the second floor at that point in
25:00
his age, we'll let Keem and Tim duncan take care of Shack. Yeah,
25:03
that's what I'm saying. Yeah, we'll let Keev and Tim duncan do
25:07
that. But Willy is like a free roaming safety. And you know exactly
25:12
how he might be the best player in the NBA because he's already on our
25:15
five our roster to beat five of the players of all time. That's just
25:19
like, this is match up purpose. This is not purpose because you didn't
25:23
say check. You didn't say Giannis, you didn't say you didn't say this
25:27
matchup. You didn't say but you know KD Bro's getting cooked. You didn't
25:33
say Rudy Gobert. I'm just I'm just saying, go Bear. Don't you
25:42
ever say I would pick Rudy Gobert. Don't don't you ever say that.
25:47
You can say anything same who should have been Defensive Player of the Year.
25:49
Then I'm just saying, bro, I already knew. I already knew somehow
25:56
you're gonna find a way to bring up Rudy Gobert. I didn't the chet.
26:00
That was creative right there. That was creative. No, but you
26:04
can go Yannis Wimby, you go Larry Bird. But KD can't guard Wimby.
26:14
I don't know. We just haven't seen it so much. I don't
26:17
know. They're three, and they're three and o vers right sons this year,
26:21
and he kind of busted their asses every single time. So I'm just
26:23
saying he can't guard Wimby. So did you? So Jannis, we don't
26:29
have to talk about that. Bird. We don't have to talk about that.
26:32
So who we putting out at three? Officially, I'm gonna let you
26:34
decide this. Well, I'm putting Wimby. I have no problem with it.
26:37
We could put Bruce Bowen there for all I care. You know,
26:41
he's locking locking KD. But if we don't put Wimby, I feel like
26:45
we gotta lean towards Giannis. Yeah, so I'll just put when I want.
26:49
But you know what I would want. I would want the having Yannis
26:53
had kee Um Tim Duncan on the same team wouldn't work. The space scene
26:56
would be at least Winby can stretch the floor like crazy. So it's like,
27:03
yeah, like I'd almost rather put Ah. Who would I put right
27:11
there? Like Larry Bird, Larry Bird team Mac Vince Carter. No,
27:17
no, no, But if you look at this team, the point guard
27:21
that's Bron, MJ, KD KG and check other than KD, there's no
27:26
other three point shooter. Yeah, Bron, he's a streaky We'll put Wimby
27:30
right there, Okay, guards the most important position right here though, Yeah,
27:34
okay, this is what I'm saying here. If we put Wimby here,
27:41
which it's locked in now, Steph, it could be fine. We're
27:47
gonna lose that. We're gonna lose that matchup. We could go magic,
27:51
but the spacing would be so crazy with Steph Curry. But I'm thinking offensively,
27:56
like defense is fine. We literally have Kobe Tim Duncan Shack and Hack
28:03
I mean, Tim Duncan, Kobe Wimby and hackem you you know what,
28:07
I'm kind of thinking. This is just a suggestion. I'm not saying,
28:11
let's do it. But Luke Bibby, Yeah, Mike Bibby, Yeah,
28:15
Kate Cunningham, Let's put Kate Cunningham at our point guard. Hell yeah,
28:18
No, But Luca, that wouldn't be too bad because it's a body in
28:23
front of Bron. I'm not saying. I'm not saying he's gonna hold Bron,
28:27
but it's a bigger body, and he's a shooter, and he's a
28:33
better passer than Steph. But the thing is like Steph don't need the ball,
28:42
you know, Like, yeah, well, Luca, Luca, Lucas
28:47
a Willing, I'm fine with I'm fine with Steph. I'm fine with Steph
28:49
here, I'm fine with Luca too, Like I really don't know. Yeah,
28:57
because I know in the group chat, Alfred, he was talking about
29:03
Magic Johnson. But then we're not we're not going to talk about the other
29:07
parts of the group of the group chat. Yeah, we'll bring it up
29:10
in a second, but we wouldn't put Kareem over Hakim I would personally me,
29:15
I wouldn't put Kareem over Hakeem because we at well, this is just
29:21
me thinking. We've seen Hakeem lockdown Shack before. We haven't seen Kareem do
29:26
that. I know it's because they haven't played each other. True, that's
29:29
just that's just my thinking. We've seen Tim Duncan lock up Shack also.
29:33
Okay, Damien, you you said make sure I have floor space and then
29:37
you said Ben Simmons. Those two don't go together right there, he's low
29:44
key cooking phasively, he's cooking. We're burning. How about we put Giannis
29:55
at the one. But we need shooters, bro, I can't. I
30:00
can't think of anybody else. It'd have to be luc or Steph. I'm
30:06
I'm saying Steph. I'm saying step I'm going with Steph Curry. Okay,
30:12
Okay, So now let's list it. We have to beat this lineup Lebron,
30:18
M J KD, Kevin Garnett and Shaq and we have Steph, Kobe
30:23
Wimby, Tim Duncan and a Keem. I say this confidently. The power
30:30
forward and center we have that cleared, Tim Duncan and a Keem. They're
30:33
better those two combined than Kevin Garnett and Shack. That's my thinking right there.
30:40
When Wimby KD that's that's iffy, that's iffy. I'm leaning then m
30:48
J Kobe just a very slight edge to MJ. But Kobe is right there,
30:55
Steph and Bron Broun, Yeah it's Bron. Yeah, it's kind of
31:00
unfair when they put Shaq, MJ and Kobe. I'm Shaq, MJ and
31:04
Lebron all on the same team. But I still think this team, our
31:10
team puts up, it puts up a fight, and in a seven game
31:14
series, we're going, who's coaching our team? Okay, well, I'm
31:18
assuming they have the greatest coach all the time. Well it would be they
31:26
either have Phil or Greg Popovic, and we'll just take the other one.
31:30
We'll take the other one. But I Loki feel like this is just too
31:34
hard. Let's just say they have Phil Jackson. Let's just say they have
31:40
Phil Jacksons. We have the go we win defensively, defensively, defensively,
31:47
our team's nasty. It's nasty because because I'm telling you, nobody could get
31:56
in the paint. Hakeem Tim Duncan Wimby. I'm sorry. Then you just
32:00
have to Kobe. He's a great perimeter defender. So you just have to
32:05
tell Steph hang on for dear life. That's all you have to tell him,
32:07
hang on for dear life. And then we could we could win.
32:09
We're going to seven, We're going to seven games. Maybe we pull it
32:14
out, maybe we don't or should we? No, I'm not doing it.
32:19
Wait what so let's just put John Stockton out there and let him get
32:22
cooking. No, hell, nah, I am not reading that that out
32:30
loud, Damien, I am not reading that out loud. No. But
32:37
all right, let's go ahead and get into NBA NBA Finals talk. So
32:42
before we talk about this, I'm a list the NBA Finals MVP Ladder odds.
32:49
So as of right now, Drew Holiday is number one to win Finals
32:52
MVP. Then it goes Luca, then Jaylen Brown, then Jason Tatum,
32:59
then Chris tops porzingis Jason Tatum at four? Yeah, Bro, Jason Tatum.
33:06
That hols are over Jason Tatum so far in this series, Bro,
33:10
you know what the hell, Let's go and bring it. Ain't done ship,
33:15
Let's go and bring it up. So we have a group chat,
33:20
it's my dad. Hey went for one of my dad's forty when he was
33:24
miss patting. He went sick for sixteen, sixteen points. And they're gonna
33:30
say it's what he does off the ball, what he goes off the ball.
33:34
Yeah, okay, buddy, win five assists, only had a five
33:37
assists, didn't even do it? Okay, they wanna go to the next
33:39
game. Played forty five minutes, forty five five minutes, bro didn't play
33:45
for three. He went six for twenty two, one for seven from three
33:47
and eighteen points. Broo tour dates. Yeah, twelve assists right there,
33:53
but he went six for twenty two. Okay, No, I wouldn't we
34:00
understand if Jason Tatum maybe if he just wasn't as aggressive all the other stats
34:07
as far as defensively, rebounding and assists. Yeah, that's cool. You're
34:10
trying to give the argument, Oh, he's just doing whatever the team team
34:15
needs him. But he's shot the ball thirty eight times and it's only made
34:19
and has only made twelve field goals. That's the highest by eleven field goal
34:24
attempts. So he's shooting way more than anybody else on the Boston Celtics and
34:30
he's just not making anything. He's not Luca. He's gonna be the first
34:34
player since Jerry west Wind MVP on a different team. Nah, okay,
34:43
I'll say this. Well, we're we're talking about it. We're talking about
34:46
it. So I feel like Luka Doncic Offensively, he's having a great series,
34:52
but defensively, compared to what he was doing in the last few series,
34:57
he's been atrocious. He's the atrocious. But he's been laboring. He
35:02
he's been laboring the entire time though. That's the thing, and it's it's
35:08
in the NBA Finals. I know it's a different matchup and everything, but
35:13
it's just part of it. But I think the biggest thing is that Kyrie
35:17
Irving. He hasn't been stepping up. He has not been stepping up,
35:22
and that's been their biggest X factor this entire postseason. I'm sorry, you
35:27
can't average fourteen points for assists and shoot thirty five percent from the field,
35:31
PJ. Washington. He's averaging fifteen and a half points a game, so
35:37
that that's not acceptable. PJ. Washington shouldn't be your second leading scorer on
35:43
this on this team right here. So question is, do you think Kyrie,
35:51
Kyrie and Luca. They're gonna be able to turn this around these next
35:53
few games. Here, are are you good at doubt Kyrie and Luca?
35:59
Because I'm not. I'm not gonna say they can't. And then plus they
36:02
were saying Kyrie's having a down game, down down to last two games.
36:07
He can only go up from there unless he scores less than what I do.
36:10
So it's kind of like, I'm not worried. I do think they're
36:15
they're figuring it out. Even this last game they were up and they just
36:19
kind of blew it a couple of times. Let them gone a little bit
36:21
of around the first series. The first game, the last three quarters were
36:24
set seventy to sixty nine. I believe you told me, yeah, after
36:28
that first quarter where the Celtics went scorch Earth from three. So the Mavericks
36:32
they're in the games just I need someone else hit a shot. I need
36:37
someone else to hit a shot. And you can't miss. How many free
36:38
throws did they miss in this game? Um, I could pull this up
36:44
for you. Eight. They missed eight free throws and they lost by seven
36:46
points. So come on, like they they make more free throws, They're
36:52
in this game. That makes the game a lot different. You're not trying
36:54
to settle for threes at the end, you're not overplaying yourself. So they're
36:59
in these games when it towards the end, I'm discounting that first quarter in
37:04
the first game. The rest of the rest of the quarters they were it
37:07
was, it was a washed seventy to sixty nine. The Mavericks is need
37:12
to figure out who's gonna step up and when are they gonna step up because
37:15
it has to happen now. They can't go down three to zero. Oh
37:20
yeah, oh yeah, no question. This is gonna be a desperation type
37:23
game for the Mavericks. But I'll say this. I know we talk about
37:28
star players and stuff like that, but it's just been clear right now the
37:31
Celtics role players have been way better than the Mavericks role players here. So
37:37
I know we talked about Daniel Gafford, Derek Lively, Pga Washington, Derek
37:42
Jones Junior, all those guys, but when you compare them against Drew Holliday,
37:45
Derek White, Christops porzingis those guys, there's levels to it. Chrisps
37:51
porzingis Game one, in the first the first quarter, he will score to
37:54
Earth and he had twenty points in the first half something like that. I
37:59
believe then drew Holiday this last game in the third quarter he took over just
38:04
the entire time defensively and offensively. So they're making these key impact plays compared
38:10
to where the Mavericks they're not. Maybe you could say because they're at home,
38:15
compared to the Mavericks team they're not at home. You know, role
38:17
players, they play better at home, So maybe that's gonna switch. But
38:23
one thing I want to ask you is that christophs porzingis so I'm not even
38:29
gonna attempt to say the injury here because let me try. I saved it
38:32
so I could track it. Okay, okay, let me go to Instagram
38:37
real quick. I saved it so I could track Yeah, okay, I'll
38:39
let you try this because I looked at that and I felt like Floyd Mayweather
38:44
reading a Doctor Seuss book for a second, what did you have a school
38:47
bagad? Christophe Berzigian suffered a torn medio retinick colam, allowing this location of
38:55
the prosterior tie bout tie about list tendon. Okay, Le's go back real
39:04
quick. Damian's blowing up my phone, Reggie Miller at the three instead of
39:07
whom wey to guard slash play against dr amp He was Katie before Katie.
39:12
No, I'm not doing Reggie Miller right here? Wasn't Reggie Miller sixty six
39:15
sixty seven? Yeah, womby seven foot four and can move faster to Reggie
39:20
Miller. So I don't know if we want to. Yeah, yeah,
39:24
no we're not. We're not putting Regimenter there. We're putting Jason Tatum there.
39:30
All right, let me try my second torn medialt the retina Kolam allowing
39:38
this location with the prosterior tibbie alice tendon. Now that was close enough.
39:49
Yeah you got it, Yeah, you got it. That was That was
39:52
perfect, perfect annunciation right there. I should have a doctor's no, you
39:59
should. So basically what this means is that, okay, so there's three
40:05
tendons on the ankle, right, and there's you could say, like a
40:09
seat belt. It keeps it in place, right, and then basically that
40:15
seat belt it basically just tour. So the tendons they're just there. So
40:22
I'm just flap around, flap, yeah, yeah, pretty much that's what
40:28
it's doing. So just basically translating that I looked that up on Twitter.
40:31
While your Mavericks are gonna win four straight is what I'm hearing. Because do
40:37
you think what he's been doing defensively, Yeah, it's a super huge loss,
40:45
Like our werper is not doing the same amount defensively at all that Christops
40:50
is doing. How much blocks did Christops have last game? First of all,
40:53
I could check how many total blocks he has? Why is my not
41:00
showing he's averaging two and a half blocks a game. But they're at big
41:04
situations too. And then plus he's having a lot of rim protection and altering
41:07
shots. So that's a big loss. And they've been trying to and that's
41:12
what the Mavericks have been trying to do, attack the rim, and he's
41:14
just been stopping all that. Without him, that kind of takes away a
41:16
lot of the interior defense. They haven't had all the playoffs. Yeah,
41:22
yeah, exactly. I know they didn't have them in the Calves and the
41:25
Pacers series, but it didn't seem that big of a problem because plus,
41:30
offensively stretching the floor he did a lot. There was a big difference right
41:36
there between him and Al Horford, and it seems like he was starting to
41:38
gear up to starting to play the starters minutes younger, I wouldn't have any
41:45
problems. Now you're gonna have to depend on Xavier Tillman, so that that's
41:52
a big drop off right there. And the Dallas Mavericks, like you were
41:55
saying, the rim protection from Chris stops. That's what the MAVs. They
42:00
get inside the rack and then they score a bunch of MVP. Yeah,
42:04
Luke Cornett, he's about to get an MVP. And I'm not gonna lie
42:07
that Peyton Pritchard shot in the end of the third quarter when they were,
42:12
uh, what was it six points something like that, when the MAVs were
42:15
starting to come back, that Bank shot right there for three when they went
42:20
up nine. That changed the entire game. That changed the entire landscape,
42:23
because I feel like it was starting to lay the masay well, even in
42:28
the first game where the MAVs stormed all the way back within six and then
42:30
they had that travel called by Derek Lively and literally the next play the Kyrie
42:36
series, that the Kyrie Irving Travel play, and then when they came back
42:39
Jalen Brown block. They kind of just went stale after that. They just
42:44
didn't have any more energy to keep up because all the momentum went away.
42:46
So the Mavericks they're they're in these games. I don't think this series is
42:52
close to being over at all, especially with this Christofspersenis it opens it wide
42:55
open? Yeah? Yeah, no, it it definitely does. And I
43:00
think that's gonna favor the MAVs. And I'll say this, I'm I'm not
43:05
gonna get into my prediction yet, but you know how usually the Game three
43:08
in a playoff series, the home team, they usually come out just on
43:13
fire and that's usually the blowout win right there for the home team. I
43:17
think this might happen. I feel like there's a sixty forty shot this might
43:22
happen for the Dallas Mavericks here because it's gonna be a bunch of desperation and
43:28
Kyrie's gonna come out on fire. There's no way that he's gonna have three
43:30
bad games in a row, No way that Luka Doncic he's gonna be this
43:35
careless with the ball. So what were you gonna say? And then also
43:38
Daniel Gaffer and Derek Lively's games are gonna completely change defensively with Christophe Prazini is
43:44
off the court. They're not gonna have to They're not gonna be baited into
43:46
fouls. They're not gonna have to guard a big man out on the wing
43:50
like they're like they're used to doing. Because christophs does have a little bit
43:52
more dribble than Al Horford at this point in their careers, so he can
43:57
kind of get Daniel Gafford and Derek Lely moving at them in noncomfortable positions.
44:00
Now they're just there. They can sit there and wait for someone to come
44:05
into the interior instead of having to stretch out with Chris Stops and knowing and
44:08
respecting his three point shot. Welford has a respectable three point shot, but
44:12
once you guard him on the you'll let him take those. Yeah. Yeah,
44:15
But what you're also guarding him on the interior, He's not making any
44:16
moves like, he's not making no moves to get past you like a Christops
44:21
would. So this changes everything. I think it does. I think this
44:24
is a bigger loss than people realize because these last two games and how he
44:28
opened up the first game for this team was the part of the reason mainly
44:31
why they won that first game. In the second game, he just does
44:34
a lot for them, but on both ends of the both ends of the
44:37
ball, of the court, both ends of the court. Yeah, yeah,
44:40
no, I agree, And I think I think this. I know
44:44
Jason Tatum. He hasn't been scoring a lot of points. I think he's
44:49
averaging about eighteen points in this series. Does to be a big scoring Jason
44:53
Tatum game, It's gonna have to be this game right here. He's a
44:58
number two bro. He's not gonna have it. It's not gonna happen because
45:01
the role players, they're naturally gonna just fall down. I'm not saying dramatically.
45:07
There's gonna be a couple that probably step up, but not every single
45:09
one of your role players are gonna do good in a road environment, hostile,
45:14
hostile crowd in Dallas. So, Jason Tatum, he's gonna need thirty
45:19
plus points in this game in order for them to win, and especially with
45:22
Chris Stops out, because what Christops was doing that was fifteen to twenty points.
45:28
Now that's gonna have to come from somebody else, potentially Jaylen Brown,
45:32
Jason Tatum, Drew Holliday, whoever it's gonna be. But somebody's gonna have
45:37
to step up, and it's gonna have to be Jason Tatum. So as
45:40
far as my prediction for Game three, I think the Mavericks are winning this
45:45
game. I I'm I would say I'm eighty percent confident in the Mavericks winning.
45:53
But there's different things that I'm hoping that the Mavericks do. So the
46:00
first thing is stop the Celtics driving kick game, because that's their main offense
46:06
right there. If you let them drive down, drive into the rack and
46:08
then kick out for threes, you're gonna let that offense get in the rhythm.
46:12
So if you can stop that, just stop that at the point of
46:14
attack, then it's gonna be difficult for the Celtics to get some offense,
46:19
especially on the road and when they could struggle and get stagnant at times.
46:23
Another thing is no careless turnovers for the MAVs. Those a bunch of careless
46:28
turnovers for the Maps, especially with Luca some with PJ. Washington, Derek
46:31
Jones Junior. They're gonna need to stop that because you can't make turnovers or
46:37
have careless turnovers against his team. Then the last thing I'm looking forward to,
46:42
Josh is transition. They need to get in transition the Dallas Mavericks and
46:49
score because whenever the Celtics defense it's set, it's almost a disadvantage for the
46:55
Mavericks at some point because they could switch one through four and I know Al
47:01
Horford's still there, but you could cover up one player on the court.
47:06
So that's my thing. I don't know if you're looking for anything or if
47:08
you're looking for an X factor, but how confident are you in the MAVs
47:13
winning. I'd say I'm about like a seventy eight percent sure they're gonna win
47:17
this game because because the Cells could just go scorch Earth from three and they
47:22
could just separate this game and then control it defensively at that point like they've
47:27
been doing, like they did in Game one. They can just get off
47:30
to an early lead where they're just knocking down shots and they have the people
47:32
to do it. That's what made them the best three point They took the
47:36
most threes in the entire NBA, the highest the highest three point percentage in
47:38
the entire NBA, which is crazy, but they were able to do that,
47:44
and they can do that any given night, especially without especially when they
47:46
have to relying on each other instead of just having another Chris Stops there who
47:51
can create more. So yeah, I say seventy eight percent for the Mavericks
47:53
in this game because they have a redemption, they're going back home. Kyrie
47:58
needs to have a big game. Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones, Daniel Gafford,
48:01
and Derrick Lively aren't, aren't gonna have aren't going to have to deal
48:09
with the Christops and able to play their roles a little bit more like they're
48:13
used to. And then I don't know, I just feel like these these
48:16
role players are gonna step up bigger at home. They're gonna be more comfortable
48:20
because they really haven't stepped up like they were doing. And especially in that
48:22
transition, like you're talking about Howltics, the Celtics do have some of the
48:27
best two way players getting the entire NBA. So once they get that ball,
48:35
they're moving, They're moving completely. And we've seen the Mavericks kind of
48:37
mess up a lot in transition. We saw last game where me and you
48:40
were literally watching and if all the Mavericks had to do was make that extra
48:45
pass, Yeah, just make that extra pass and you have a wide open
48:49
jump shot, you have a wide open three, You have a wide open
48:52
guy roaming to the rim, but it was too many guys. PJ Washington
48:55
a couple of times, Tim Hardaway Junior a couple of even, even Luca
49:00
did it a couple of times. And Kyrie, you're there just trying to
49:02
force the ball with three people around them in the paint when they could have
49:06
just made one extra pass, wide open shot, higher percentage could go in
49:08
change the game. And they did that way too many times in this last
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game. Yeah, yeah, no, no question. And another thing is
49:19
there's always a chess move as far as with the coaches. That's gonna just
49:22
have to be a quick edit. That's that's no biggie no. But like
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I was saying, what's gonna be the chess move for Jason Kidd here?
49:31
What what can you exactly do to It's like, okay, this is gonna
49:35
put the MAVs over the top because there hasn't really been no adjustments here really
49:40
from the Maverick side side of the ball. It's just Luka Doncic, you
49:45
score aggressively in the first half, and then we go from there. If
49:50
we could pull this out, if we keep it close, then all right,
49:52
we'll we'll like our chances because we have two of the best closers.
49:58
So so who knows. But is there anything else you want to say before
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we get into the tiers? No, we pretty much cover everything so far
50:07
on this series. We have all right, so maybe maybe more now we
50:15
have five more games to go. This thing's going seven. I'm so confident
50:20
in the maps still, I'm probably if I had to say, Josh,
50:25
i'd probably say I'm like a sixty five percent sure this is going to go
50:30
back to to to Boston. That's how confident I am. I see it
50:36
too, I see it too. No, but all right, so this
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right here, it's an NBA Finals tier list, and I know it doesn't
50:45
have these last two, but we're gonna just pretend hypothetically, because man,
50:49
Josh, I look through all of these and they they didn't have none of
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the ones for Steph Curry and Nakola Jokic. What do you mean as far
50:58
as look so, so this right here it has twenty twelve to twenty twenty
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one. It didn't have anything as far as with Steph Curry twenty twenty two
51:07
and Yo Kids twenty twenty three, all the other tier lists that Al was
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finding we're trying to create it was. Don't ask me why, but we're
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gonna go based on just how they performed in the finals. We're gonna we're
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gonna just go based off of that. All right, So what we're gonna
51:31
do is we're gonna go off of or we're gonna start with twenty twelve twenty
51:37
twelve, Lebron Miami Heat. What would you rank this right here? Yeah?
51:43
Twenty five, ten and seven. I'm gonna have the stats pulled up
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right here. Okay, yeah, I have the stats pulled up to yeah,
51:52
versus it was a thunder. We can give this a beat tiers a
51:59
little. Yeah, it was something that was good, but not nothing anything
52:06
crazy. Twenty thirteen, Bron, I feel like this is an A A
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to an st right here? Or no, I say A. That's what
52:14
I'm thinking, all right, I got it mixed up. I'm looking at
52:19
it wrong now because twenty thirteen it was twenty six, yeah, twenty five
52:24
points? Oh really? Yeah? Twenty twenty twelve he had twenty eight points.
52:35
Oh really? Am I looking at the wrong stats? I don't know.
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I'm just using the basketball reference usually used. Okay, okay, okay,
52:43
Now we'll go off yours. We'll go off yours. So he was
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averaging twenty seven in the twenty twelve twenty twelve twenty eight point six, ten
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rebounds, seven point four assists. I think so a damn near triple double.
52:58
Yes, yep, and that was versus the Oklahoma City Thunder. I
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think I still think it's a b I still think yeah, I still think
53:08
it's a big he's just doing Lebron thans. Okay, twenty thirteen, Lebron.
53:15
This one, this one went all game or all seven games against the
53:19
Spurs. They were down three to two, Brey Allen hit the shot.
53:23
Tim Duncans five and one. He's not undefeated. Uh, he left him
53:29
out of the game. Greg Popovic, you know, yeah no. But
53:31
anyways, what would you rank this one, Josh, because I'm thinking I'm
53:42
thinking a or S tier. That's what I'm thinking, a tier based off
53:45
the level of competition he was playing. You know, yeah, he just
53:49
did what he had to do. Okay, next one right here, twenty
53:54
fourteen, Kawhi Leonard, so he was it on being the Lebron stopper.
54:00
They won in five games against the Heat. So the level of competition is
54:06
there, Young I'm thinking the youngest Finals MVP of all time. Also,
54:15
I'll put on my Spurs shade from that year. I'm thinking beer C.
54:22
I'm thinking maybe a C because it's not like he was scoring crazy. He
54:25
was just a defensive monster. Right. Yeah, I'd say a C because
54:30
it could have easily win the Tim Duncan that year. Yeah, Okay,
54:37
next one. I feel like this is a similar situation andre Iguodala right here
54:44
with the death this one on earth. Who do you want taking the last
54:47
shot? I want equal I'm thinking, honestly, Steph Curry. He should
54:58
have won. He should have won this one. So I'm on the same
55:01
basis as Kawhi Leonard. I say this may be a D. I'm not
55:07
gonna lie, Okay, I'm okay with that, Okay, all right.
55:14
Twenty sixteen, Lebron is here. Yeah, we don't have to explain this
55:19
one. Nine point seventy, eleven point yeah, eleven point three rebounds,
55:24
eight point nine, Er says, two point six stills, two point three
55:28
blocks on fifty five. That's from the field. That's ridiculous. That's Lebron
55:32
James. That's ridiculous, baby, all right. Twenty seventeen Kevin Durant against
55:38
the Cleveland Cavaliers. Tier he everrs thirty five point two points, eight point
55:44
two rebounds, five point or is it? Yeah, like dud as as
55:49
much hate as he gets. Yeah, he bawled. He he proved that
55:53
he was worthy of the finals MVP. But this next one right here,
55:59
twenty eighteen, Evan Durant right here, we can put this in beat here
56:02
and kind of fell off a little bit, still did to Sting twenty eight
56:06
point eight eleven rebounds, eight assists, and then plus like yeah, like
56:12
it just wasn't the same. I'll give him, yeah, and then plus
56:15
Kyrie he wasn't here. So the Cavs they were really under manned. Right
56:21
here, all right, next one right here, twenty nineteen, Kawhi Leonard,
56:28
tell me who he played? Tell me who he played? Funso Steph
56:31
Curry. Four games of Klay Thompson. They didn't play Klay Thompson. Yeah,
56:42
play got heard in that series, but it was after four games.
56:45
Jay Mon suspended. I thought Draymond played. I thought he was. He
56:51
got suspended in that series. I'm pretty positive he got suspended. Really,
56:55
oh wrong, one wrong one Ben kd was hurt. Oh yeah, obviously
57:02
Katie was hurt twenty nineteen NBA Finals. No, he played, He played
57:10
the entire time. It was just Katie that got hurt. Well, then
57:15
I'll still give him a d D. See, I'll give him a see.
57:21
I guess what Kawhi and c which you call that Kawhi tier right there?
57:23
The Kawhi teer here. I could do this just for you. Kawhit
57:30
tire right there, perfect all right, the the bubble ring right here.
57:38
Lebron twenty twenty. Level of comp wasn't there in the finals. So I'm
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not gonna I'll get it. I'm saying bye, I'm thinking B. I'm
57:51
giving B tier. Okay, the next one right here, twenty twenty one,
57:59
Yannis, they were down two, they came back. Did you say
58:04
a tier S tier? S? Okay? I agree with that. Okay.
58:07
Defensively, plus thirty five points and almost fourteen rebounds a game, I'm
58:14
taking a fifty point close out game. It's crazy. Yep, we're doing
58:17
that's crazy. Okay. I know that Steph Curry and a Cola yokids,
58:23
they're not here, and I know you have the stats. They they're pulled
58:27
up already. But twenty twenty two. Steph Curry a or s if he
58:30
ever thirty one points in this series against the Boston Celtics and made them look
58:37
pedestrian, I would say I would say a tier because there was moments where
58:45
he struggled, but he did have what was it It was a forty five
58:50
point triple double something like that. Mm hmm. He was going crazy.
58:54
Yeah, so I'm thinking a tier. Yeah, we can do that.
58:59
So the last one, Nikola Jokic right here, which didn't you have an
59:06
average a triple double in this or almost a triple double? Right thirty point
59:09
two to fourteen rebounds and seven is sists. That's crazy. That's a crazy
59:15
set percentage. That is that is crazy. I'm looking at this now.
59:22
Giannas averaged a sixty percent fig goal percentage, but Lebron in twenty twenty average
59:27
a fifty nine percent filgal percentage. That is crazy. That is crazy.
59:36
Now that now that I'm thinking about it, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,
59:43
twenty fourteen, then where is it at twenty twenty So five five times in
59:52
the past twelve years, five times in the past twelve years the heat they
59:55
made the finals, two without Lebron Honestly, that's not bad. That's even
1:00:04
though they won, but two out of five, that's that's still a good
1:00:07
percentage right there. That's still a good damn good percentage there saying not one,
1:00:10
not two, not three. He doesn't he wasn't saying with him,
1:00:15
but he was just saying they were gonna go. Yeah, exactly. People.
1:00:20
They weren't seeing the vision. That's it. That's all it was.
1:00:22
They didn't see it. Boy. No, But I say, Nicola Jokic,
1:00:29
I say a a tier. That's that's what I probably say, yeah,
1:00:34
just due to the competition. But I think that that pretty much concludes
1:00:44
this episode right here. This was a nice short episode right here. But
1:00:49
before we get out of here, we have our so called MVPs. We
1:00:52
always do them every single week. I know the series is not over yet,
1:00:58
but if you had a choose a so called MVP, who would it
1:01:02
be and why? It would be? All the Mavericks role players for helping
1:01:07
the Celtics out tremendously to stay up in this series. WHOA Okay, I'm
1:01:19
gonna say, I'm gonna say I wanted to say Jason Tatum, but I'm
1:01:23
gonna say Drew Holliday, Drew Holliday, he's an MVP so far. If
1:01:28
the finals ended as of right now, then I would say Drew Holiday is
1:01:32
a finals MVP. But I don't know if you have anything else you want
1:01:37
to say before we get out of here, because I know we're gonna be
1:01:40
live streaming tomorrow during the middle of the games, maybe a little bit after
1:01:45
halftime, just depending on whenever we can. But do you have anything else
1:01:50
you want to say before we get out of here? Fawnso admitted that Winby's
1:01:55
the greatest defensive player in the history of the league. No identity at them
1:02:00
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1:02:17
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