Latest / Kvetch & Release / New report highlights the reality of renting & home buying hurdles in Ontario
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- 0:00Do you know that one third of Ontario renters plan to purchase a property in
- 0:04the next two years? Does that sound like you. Of those planning to
- 0:08purchase, forty three percent believe they will be able to afford to buy a
- 0:12property in their current city of residents. Forty three percent believe that they'll be
- 0:17able to afford in their own city of residents. Are you one of these
- 0:21people? Text us at five one nine seven nine two CKLW let us know
- 0:25and we'll get to those comments throughout the rest of the show. Joining us
- 0:29to discuss a twenty twenty four Canadian Renters report that's put out by Royal Lapage
- 0:35is Karen Yolevski, who is the chief operating officer for Royal Lapage. How
- 0:39are you doing today? I'm good, Thanks for having me. Thank you
- 0:42so much for joining me. Why don't we talk a little bit about what
- 0:45the realities are for people who are both renting and home buying and what the
- 0:49hurdles associated might be here, not just you know, in Windsor, but
- 0:53also across Ontario. What's the reality like out there? Well? Not surprisingly,
- 0:59those rents that said they were not planning on buying a property in the
- 1:03next couple of years. The reasons for that primarily were financial, either that
- 1:07they could not come up with the down payments, or they didn't believe that
- 1:11they'd be able to afford the monthly mortgage payment, or just simply didn't qualify
- 1:15for the mortgage. It's a tough situation. We've talked here often about housing
- 1:22expert Mike Moffatt, who discusses, you know, drive to qualify, coming
- 1:26from the GTA down the four to oh one and stopping in whatever community that
- 1:30they began to qualify for a mortgage in. It's a tough situation. It's
- 1:33not one that it was like, you know, ten years ago, let
- 1:36alone twenty thirty forty years ago. Well, prices have certainly risen in the
- 1:40last ten years, and if you go back further you can see any prices
- 1:44that have risen dramatically in the triple digits percentage numbers. People certainly do drive
- 1:49to qualify, and now we're seeing people driving also to find more affordable rents.
- 1:56For people are willing to go further to get out of places like the
- 1:59GTA in order to find a roof over their heads. In terms of our
- 2:02survey, we did ask people when they said, if you could buy in
- 2:06your current location, great, but if you couldn't, how many kilometers did
- 2:09you have to go out of your current place of residence to get within your
- 2:14budget? And we had a large number of people forty percent combined that were
- 2:19over fifty kilometers. Twenty percent of those people said over one hundred kilometers.
- 2:23So that's really picking up and moving from one city to another. Well,
- 2:25that it really is. You're talking about significant moves just because you can't find
- 2:30somewhere to live in your own area. If you're not able to afford a
- 2:34down payment to be able to get a house, or you can't qualify for
- 2:37it, and you're being kept in the renter's market, that of course causes
- 2:42the rental market to increase. It's a compounding effect, isn't it. That's
- 2:46right, and we have seen that. We've seen that certainly in the Windsor
- 2:49area over the last number of years. They're sort of hypercharged after COVID and
- 2:54vacancy rates really are a big driving force behind that. A vacancy rates right
- 2:59now now in winter around the two percent range. So you're talking about not
- 3:02a lot of properties available to rent, and when you don't have supply.
- 3:07You've brought all that demand, you're going to see those rental rates increase.
- 3:12And so what are we looking at when people are spending the money that they
- 3:15make on a monthly basis in terms of their rent. Do you have anything
- 3:19like that broken down? Yeah, So our survey does ask how much are
- 3:23people spending on their rent when it comes to their overall income and perhaps not
- 3:30a surprise, Ontario and British Columbia coming out ahead on how much people are
- 3:38spending of their income. So unfortunately you're looking especially when you move into the
- 3:45bigger cities, you've got people spending In Toronto as an example, nineteen percent
- 3:51of people in Toronto surveyed spend more than fifty percent of their income on rent.
- 3:58Wow, that is stat I mean you wonder how people are able to
- 4:02pull that off. So when you look at the situation down here in Windsor
- 4:06specifically, do you think that any relief is going to be coming or how
- 4:10long do you think we're going to be in this situation we're in, Well,
- 4:13relief really comes through supply, more supply that can absorb the increase in
- 4:17demand. We know we've seen record immigration as late, and that is particularly
- 4:23for rental properties, impacting that demand because typically people who are new to a
- 4:29province or to a country, they're going to rent first before they buy.
- 4:33Now, we thought there were some good news in terms of purpose build rental
- 4:36completions. Builds were above the five year average in the Windsor area. However,
- 4:43the rental stock overall has actually diminished in the last couple of years after
- 4:47you account for demolitions, renovations, and conversions of existing stocks. So we're
- 4:54just not building fast enough to keep up with the overwhelming demand. The problem
- 5:00with the generational change is that it takes Sometimes you can really quickly get into
- 5:04it, but it takes a lot longer to get out of it. How
- 5:08much of this is still just like hangovers from COVID and people deciding to up
- 5:12and move for various reasons versus just you know, inner city people that have
- 5:16been you know, sort of squeezed out, don't I really don't know how
- 5:19to phrase what I'm asking other than again, like when when we're looking at
- 5:25this situation and how it hit so heavy and so quickly, it just it
- 5:30seems like it should be able to have some way to get out of it
- 5:32as fast as possible, but why is it able to hit as hard as
- 5:35it did so quickly. Well, it was COVID and the demand for housing
- 5:42driven by COVID. People had a lot of focus on housing during the pandemic.
- 5:46We saw the home take precedence for everything, right. It was the
- 5:48point of entertainment. It was your gym, it was your office, it
- 5:53was really the focal point of your entire life for those two years. Coupled
- 5:57with the lockdown, that had people saving money and for ultra low interest rates,
- 6:00interest rates we've never seen before in this country, and that really sparked
- 6:05the market that was already undersupplied and has seen price acceleration over a number of
- 6:12years prior to that. So COVID wasn't the reason, but it certainly did
- 6:15add a little bit of fuel to that fire. And what we've seen post
- 6:20COVID is that even though prices have come down off the peak, which might
- 6:24be welcome news to a number of people, they studied themselves after the first
- 6:29few months when interest rates started to rise, and they're slowly but surely creeping
- 6:32back upwards. So we haven't seen drops and prices that have leveled the playing
- 6:38field, particularly for first time buyers. Now, we do know the buyers
- 6:42are getting creative. Buyers are looking at alternative forms of down payments, They're
- 6:46getting together with family members, friends, They're looking to buy properties that way,
- 6:49and a number of people are relying on gifts and inheritance in order to
- 6:55purchase property. So even though we're in this housing supply shortage, the desire
- 7:00for people to become homeowners isn't going away. It's just going to be more
- 7:03difficult. The dream of home ownership in Canada is certainly not dead. I
- 7:09thought it was striking that in our survey of the people that said in the
- 7:13next two years they intend to buy that are currently renting, forty one percent
- 7:16of people between the ages of eighteen and thirty four answered that yes. So
- 7:20it's our younger people that are saying, yes, we are wanting homes and
- 7:25we are planning on buying homes despite the obstacles that are in the way of
- 7:30first time buyers. Well, it's the way that it's been for a pretty
- 7:33long time. It's not surprising to see that trends and beliefs and opinions about
- 7:39it haven't changed as well. Even though the climate has become far tougher than
- 7:44it was just a few years past. Karen, I want to thank you
- 7:46so much for breaking down this report. Pretty heavy stuff sometimes, which is
- 7:50why we always love having experts come on to help discuss it well my pleasure.
- 7:55Thank you for having me. Thank you very much. Karen Nielevski is
- 7:58the Chief operating Officer of Royal Page. We are going to take a quick
- 8:01break right now. We'll get to your comments. If you've got any comments
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