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The Late Debate | 19 August · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late general, welcome, late.
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  Speaker 2: Pays well, good evening, It's great to have your company.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Stauer and Joe Hildebrand coming up.
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  Speaker 2: A Gold Coast fisherman not unconscious.
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  Speaker 3: By a whale. We'll get to that a bit later. Plus,
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  Speaker 3: when we look at the papers, record numbers of Queensland
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  Speaker 3: students being homeschooled and household plastics are a much greater
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  Speaker 3: health risk than anyone ever imagined, according to a new study.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to all of that in a moment, but first, new.
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  Speaker 3: ABC boss Kim Williams has been telling anyone who will
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  Speaker 3: listen that the national broadcaster desperately needs more funding. After all,
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  Speaker 3: presenting left wing ideology twenty four to seven doesn't come cheak.
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  Speaker 3: Not even one point one billion dollars.
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  Speaker 2: A year is enough to cover it.
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  Speaker 3: So it might surprise you then to learn that your
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  Speaker 3: cash strapped ABC spend one hundred and thirty five thousand
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  Speaker 3: dollars of your money sending its Adelaide radioduo to cover
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  Speaker 3: the Olympic Games. Not that they went to any sporting events.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't go to any stadiums. Instead, they covered the
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  Speaker 3: atmosphere in Paris, and what the ABC advertised as the
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  Speaker 3: pair's extraordinary French adventure could work if you can get it,
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  Speaker 3: even better work if the taxpayer is footing the bill.
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  Speaker 2: Liberal Senator Alex Antik.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking for most of us I think, told The Australian
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  Speaker 3: it was staggering that the ABC thinks that spending one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and thirty five grand to send two breakfast radio
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  Speaker 3: hosts and two staff to Paris for the Olympic Games
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  Speaker 3: represents value for money for the Australian taxpayer, all at
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  Speaker 3: a time when Australians face a cost of living crisis,
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  Speaker 3: multiple interest rate rises and some of the highest prices.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen in a generation.
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  Speaker 3: It does beg the question, how can you claim to
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  Speaker 3: be underfunded when you're putting on, you know, perks and
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  Speaker 3: jaunts like this.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this isn't unusual for the ABC. I was actually
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  Speaker 1: surprised to learn that they'd only sent four, yes, twenty,
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  Speaker 1: The major network sent like over two hundred.
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  Speaker 4: Oh this is just from Adelaide though, This is just
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  Speaker 4: from the Adelie breakface from Adelaide.
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  Speaker 1: But also when you do the math, is thirty three thousand,
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  Speaker 1: thirty three thousand per head for four people for two
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  Speaker 1: weeks of the Games. Is that really that extortionate?
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  Speaker 5: Once you put in like flights a.
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  Speaker 4: Comedy there, like I could, yeah, exactly, I could get
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  Speaker 4: a really cheap flight to Antarctica and do a Noodi
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  Speaker 4: run around the South Ball.
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  Speaker 6: But that doesn't explain what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 1: Pressing question, especially given they announced in early July that
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  Speaker 1: they had this ubute sub licensing deal with nine whereby
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  Speaker 1: ABC Radio where the regional rural remote you name it
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  Speaker 1: could use nine's broadcast. So it does beg the question
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  Speaker 1: why did you send anyone.
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  Speaker 3: Well for color and light and shade. I mean they
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  Speaker 3: were drinking water from the river and period the trump
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  Speaker 3: with a.
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  Speaker 4: Three of with aqua vita and look, I am never
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  Speaker 4: going to get between a journal and a junket, right,
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  Speaker 4: They're in there.
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  Speaker 6: In lives or a perilous risk to your life.
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  Speaker 4: Right, I've been on overseas jungles everything and blah blah
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  Speaker 4: blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 6: But the difference is that this is.
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  Speaker 4: Paid for by the tax payer and other broadcasts. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: the host broadcasters spend millions and millions of dollars just
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  Speaker 4: to get the rights, millions and millions of dollars to
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  Speaker 4: send all their top stars and crew and everything over
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  Speaker 4: there to.
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  Speaker 6: Do all that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: But they do that because they get a return on investment,
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  Speaker 4: because if they do that right, then they get bigger ratings,
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  Speaker 4: which means they get more AD revenue, which means that
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  Speaker 4: they can pay those people and pays for itself, and.
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  Speaker 6: This investment in that company. ABC does not have that motivation.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, the ABC's whole motivation, even though they constantly
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  Speaker 4: worry about ratings as a sort of sense of pride,
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  Speaker 4: and I can completely understand that as well. But their
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  Speaker 4: job is not to get big ratings, because the reason
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  Speaker 4: you want big ratings is so you can get big
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  Speaker 4: AD money. Their job is to do the stuff that
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  Speaker 4: doesn't rate or that it doesn't attract AD revenue, so
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  Speaker 4: that Australians don't miss out, like you know, Weekend Arts
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  Speaker 4: or Radio National or.
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  Speaker 6: Whatever it is.
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  Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, Like, so they have
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  Speaker 4: to be relevant to Australians, So they've got to show
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  Speaker 4: that Australians are listening to them and engaging with their products.
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  Speaker 4: But the reason the raison debtra to use a French
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  Speaker 4: term for any other commercial organization sending people to Paris,
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  Speaker 4: which is rock solid simply does not exist at the ABC.
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  Speaker 6: It is a dead parrot.
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  Speaker 3: But had the ABC not sent this peer, we would
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  Speaker 3: have missed out on magical moments like where they got
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  Speaker 3: French people to say Ozzie assisi oi, or where they
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  Speaker 3: stood out the.
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  Speaker 1: Fore Oh well that right, Yeah, that's worth one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and thirty five.
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  Speaker 3: What comes to mind when I say Australia and the
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  Speaker 3: replies were amazing.
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  Speaker 2: You'd never kangaroos, koalas, stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Like that, so we would have missed all of that
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  Speaker 3: breaking spent this money so wisely ground breaking.
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  Speaker 5: I noticed that the ABC has yet to comment on
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  Speaker 5: this story, just kind of like, yeah, well that's another
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  Speaker 5: thing to say.
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  Speaker 3: Really they need to comment on this story because it's
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  Speaker 3: actually our money, so we and through alex Antick have
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  Speaker 3: every right to ask what the heck?
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  Speaker 5: But they're not any other way anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if they continually get bashed, their ratings are dropping.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone knows this. They're in dice.
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  Speaker 6: Except in Adelaide. Adelaide they're the highest rating.
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  Speaker 4: They are the highest rating metro AC.
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  Speaker 1: Which is why obviously they were the chosen ones, because
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  Speaker 1: they're they're the most like let's send a.
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  Speaker 4: Breaktas they're no onhere as good as pinbo I can
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  Speaker 4: promise you that quick word.
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  Speaker 2: In defense of these two radio hosts.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's not's not their fault opportunity of course
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  Speaker 3: you say.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know Jewels. I think he's
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  Speaker 6: the top.
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  Speaker 4: And again, if someone was going to say we're sending
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  Speaker 4: you to Paris for the Olympic, yep, thank you very much. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to actually is this an appropriate use
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  Speaker 4: of tax paper? No, take the money and run. And
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  Speaker 4: if you want to send me, I'm available. I'll also
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  Speaker 4: do the US ambassador's dinner party if you want me to,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like, but still don't playing issue the ABC
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  Speaker 4: has made that it's not there for God though they're
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  Speaker 4: made out like bandits, they're just a laughing, literally laughing
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  Speaker 4: all the way to the banks of the Seine.
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  Speaker 6: No good on them.
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  Speaker 4: And again I've never criticized a journal for taking a junker.
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  Speaker 4: Taken plenty of myself, and I'm available for others.
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  Speaker 2: Very good.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's go to council madness, because there's so many
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  Speaker 3: crazy things happening in councils around the country. Will start
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  Speaker 3: in Queensland. You've heard the old adage, sure dog is
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  Speaker 3: a band's best friend. Well I tell you who's not,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the Redland City Council. They've just threatened dog
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  Speaker 3: owners with fines of two thousand, seven hundred dollars if
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  Speaker 3: you're caught with your dog not on its leash. That's
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  Speaker 3: a one hundred and fifty percent increase on the previous amount. Now,
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  Speaker 3: just to put this in perspective, Liz and Joe, twenty
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  Speaker 3: seven hundred dollars if you're caught walking your dog without
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  Speaker 3: its leash. If you're caught doing one hundred kilometers in
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  Speaker 3: a sixty zone, it's a one six hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 3: three dollar fine. If you're caught drink driving, it's less
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  Speaker 3: than if you're caught with your dog off its leash.
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  Speaker 3: So that's how crazy these fines are. And what makes
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  Speaker 3: it even crazier is that in the Redlands Shire, the
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  Speaker 3: area where you can let the dog off its leash,
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  Speaker 3: it's not fenced. There's a couple of signs showing vaguely
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  Speaker 3: where the area is, and so local resident Margaret Hardy,
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  Speaker 3: she said officers were issuing fines to dog owners for
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  Speaker 3: allowing their dogs to walk from the unfenced dog park
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  Speaker 3: to the car without being on a lead, which was
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  Speaker 3: really just a matter of meters. There are three or
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  Speaker 3: four signs, she said, with a map within the grass
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  Speaker 3: area and at each end, but the rest is a
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  Speaker 3: guestimation because there's no fence around the dog area.
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  Speaker 2: But here's my big idea, joe I reckon.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great thing that in Queensland, if your dog
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  Speaker 3: does the wrong thing, you, as the owner, you get
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  Speaker 3: fined twenty seven hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 2: What if they did that for the parents of juvenile criminals.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, that's a fantastic idea. This makes my blood boil.
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  Speaker 6: This is so insane. This is Karen Baiting right.
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  Speaker 4: This is basically saying, if you are a miserable, nasty
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  Speaker 4: life hating dog, hating child, hating old way with nothing
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  Speaker 4: better to do, you can just spend your days just
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  Speaker 4: looking for people as dogs are off the leash.
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  Speaker 6: This does my head in.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone knows that in every single community there are areas
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  Speaker 4: where the dogs run free.
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  Speaker 6: Everyone's cool with it. Half the time. No one I
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  Speaker 6: know in the parks in my area.
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  Speaker 4: Half the time, no one knows whether it's whether it's
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  Speaker 4: meant to be an on leach or off leag Era
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  Speaker 4: or night. We've got a public golf course near our
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  Speaker 4: house that was recently saved from the Greens who were
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  Speaker 4: trying to turn it into some I don't know, talking
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  Speaker 4: yarning circle or something, I don't know, whatever it was,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, and everyone just runs their dogs up
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  Speaker 4: and down it. I don't know if they're meant to
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  Speaker 4: be on a leash. I don't know if they're meant
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  Speaker 4: to be driving a golf bait. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: they're meant to shout for if they're coming, you know,
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  Speaker 4: but everyone does it because the community just knows. And
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  Speaker 4: then the council comes in and councils always bow to
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  Speaker 4: the will of the most unreasonable, intolerant, nasty snitch in
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  Speaker 4: the community.
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  Speaker 6: And that's exactly what this has done. It is Karen Baiting.
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  Speaker 4: It is saying, you know what, we are going to
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  Speaker 4: take the most miserable, anti social, misanthropic person in the
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  Speaker 4: community and apply their standards to everybody else. And it's
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  Speaker 4: outrageous and not just misanthropic, miss dogthropic.
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  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of councils taking on the feedback of in
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  Speaker 1: this case, two people, Let's go to Sydney where Clover
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  Speaker 1: Moore has decided that a very popular pub in Wilhelmloo
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  Speaker 1: can no longer serve people dinner outside after eight pm.
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  Speaker 7: Why.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently there were a few kegs discovered on the sidewalk
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  Speaker 1: which was blocking pedestrians the last time the council popped
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  Speaker 1: in and get this, two people, just two people from
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  Speaker 1: the community had complained and said, we don't want these
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  Speaker 1: people outside anymore. They're dining, they're drinking, they're having a
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  Speaker 1: great time, and I'm miserable, so I want them to
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  Speaker 1: be miserable too. This woman's name is Belinda Olsen. She
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  Speaker 1: was one of the two public submissions that got a
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  Speaker 1: counsel to be like, oh, yes, we must action this immediately.
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  Speaker 5: Here's what she had to say for herself.
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  Speaker 1: There is way too much space given to them already,
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  Speaker 1: and I object to them receiving anymore faith. They are
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  Speaker 1: not being accountable for the area now and they need
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  Speaker 1: to respect residents and pedestrians, not to mention the noise
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  Speaker 1: generated from that many people standing and sitting around outside.
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  Speaker 5: As they get louder, as they get drunk.
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  Speaker 1: Car Belinda, you sound like you need a cold one lady.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how miserable do you have to be? And
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  Speaker 1: yet she would be so toughed right now because what
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  Speaker 1: does Sydney Council decide to do lay the SmackDown on
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  Speaker 1: the pub. It's called the Old Fits. Many Sydney siders
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  Speaker 1: would be very familiar with it. Here's James Thorpe, who
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  Speaker 1: owns the Old Fits.
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  Speaker 5: He says, it's pretty unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: We accept that neighborhood amenity is really important, but we
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  Speaker 1: have a perfect compliance history. That we're having to close
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  Speaker 1: the most popular area of the pub just as dinner
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  Speaker 1: service is starting is not right when we've traded out.
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  Speaker 5: There for eighteen years until ten p m.
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  Speaker 1: I can understand if the council had received like one
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  Speaker 1: hundred complaints, and then you've got to assume that for
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  Speaker 1: everyone who's taken the time to complain, there's a pile
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  Speaker 1: of others who've taken exception to it but sucked it up,
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  Speaker 1: and you go, oh, well, we've got to do something.
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  Speaker 1: But two complaints, they got two submissions and now the
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  Speaker 1: SmackDown gets placed.
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  Speaker 5: In the Old Fit.
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  Speaker 4: It is absolutely insane. I'm going to it might be
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  Speaker 4: even the one thing I love more than dogs is alcohol.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm going to get even more upset about this way. Okay,
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  Speaker 6: this is a letter.
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  Speaker 4: This is This is a tiny, little local pub. It
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  Speaker 4: is the most awesome job. I've been their heaps of times.
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  Speaker 4: It was the local of a maid of mine who,
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  Speaker 4: trigger warning, used to take his dog there occasionally, I
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  Speaker 4: believe unleashed.
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  Speaker 6: I'll have to I'll have to go.
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  Speaker 4: Back and check my nose, my next for my next
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  Speaker 4: council report. But I believe that, you know from time
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  Speaker 4: to time, and it's just one of those beautiful little
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  Speaker 4: community pubs. It's not a sort of joint where you've
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: got you know, giant you know, beer swilling, meth head bikis.
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  Speaker 6: Stabbing each other with pool cubes.
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  Speaker 4: There's a little community theater there, or at least it
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  Speaker 4: was last time I checked.
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  Speaker 6: I don't go to I don't leave the house anymore.
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  Speaker 6: But there used to be a beautiful little community theater there.
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  Speaker 6: So they put on little plays. So you go and
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  Speaker 6: have your dinner and then you go have a thing,
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  Speaker 6: and it's still there. It is.
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  Speaker 4: It's a little sort of it's the most inoffensive place
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  Speaker 4: in the world, blocking pedestriins. No one's walking past there,
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  Speaker 4: except to go to the pub. It's basically the only
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  Speaker 4: thing you go there. There's a big housing commissioner state.
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  Speaker 4: On the other side, it's lots of colorful local identities.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure that they've got bigger problems than the ones
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  Speaker 4: that Belinda outlined. And it's also at the sort of
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  Speaker 4: just adjacent to sort of down the hill from almost
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  Speaker 4: down the cliff from a little a little locality in city,
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  Speaker 4: not officially a suburb industrum. That's a little fun fact.
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  Speaker 4: Not a suburb, but a locality. Doesn't have its own
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  Speaker 4: post guy, but he's a locality.
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  Speaker 6: You might have heard of it. It's called King's Cross.
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  Speaker 4: Cross at what Cage Cross gets loud at night?
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  Speaker 6: No, you have to stop your dinner service. You're out
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  Speaker 6: of disservice at eight pm. There's no early bird special.
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  Speaker 4: That's not that's not the that's not the west ryde
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  Speaker 4: RSLAN and.
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  Speaker 3: The new South Wales government Chris Means he's been trying
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  Speaker 3: to encourage while attainment venues. Clover More has been boasting
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  Speaker 3: about how they've removed red tape to encourage entertainment and
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  Speaker 3: dining venues.
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  Speaker 2: This establishment apparently.
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  Speaker 3: Has got an eighteen year history of perfect compliance with
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  Speaker 3: council regulations.
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  Speaker 2: They get a couple of complaints and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: the council.
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  Speaker 3: Are They enforce the rules rigorously without any grace or
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  Speaker 3: mercy at all. Let's stick with councils because it just
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  Speaker 3: keeps going. In New South Wales, the Cumberland City Council
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  Speaker 3: in Western Sydney, well, doesn't matter that sixty four percent
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  Speaker 3: I think it was. It was certainly two thirds of
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  Speaker 3: people in that shire voted no to the Voice at
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  Speaker 3: the referendum last October.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: No, they're going to push ahead with their own local treaty.
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  Speaker 3: They're calling it partnership, but it's really a treaty with
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  Speaker 3: three indigenous groups. Now, this treaty, apart from acknowledging that
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: the land in the shire, was never ceded and I
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: guess if the council really believed that they would give
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  Speaker 3: back City Hall and their own homes and properties.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just virtue signaling.
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  Speaker 3: But they've decided that these three indigenous groups will be
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: consulted on every new development, every planning application and even
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: on the naming of streets from now on. Once they
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: pass this partnership, councilor Steve Christu was on two GB
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: talking about the incredible red tape that will be put
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  Speaker 3: around developments if this goes ahead.
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  Speaker 7: That is very very concerning because it will just stop
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  Speaker 7: any development or any sort of progress occurring in Cumberland.
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  Speaker 7: And imagine all the red tape that's going to be
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  Speaker 7: created when you have to consult on every lamp purchase
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  Speaker 7: or every negotiation or deal that council wants to implement.
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  Speaker 7: It's just not on It's horrendous for the local community.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the good news is the state government can override this,
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  Speaker 3: but Joe, the bad news is it's a labor state government.
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  Speaker 4: It is, but the labor mayor of Cumberland is pretty sensible.
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  Speaker 4: I've only met her at once, but she seemed pretty
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: sensible and they've had sort of issues dancing around kind
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: of you know, are they too versus Steve christ who's
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: a former mayor and is very obviously, as you can say,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: straight down the line, good old fashioned family values, no nonsense,
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  Speaker 4: no bs, that sort of thing, and he's an impressive
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  Speaker 4: figure as well. But I think it will be interesting
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  Speaker 4: to see just what form this takes. I can't imagine. Firstly,
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: the state labor government wants to do one thing and
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  Speaker 4: one thing only above absolutely anything else. And it showed
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  Speaker 4: it in its last date budget where it put billions
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: towards it, and has showed it in every single thing
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  Speaker 4: that's said. Front and center wants more housing, wants more housing,
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: and anything that stops counsels from approving more housing. They
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: come in and they whack them like a ton of bricks.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: They hate Nimbi's, they hate the people, the councils who
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: aren't approving it. They've gone after them before, they'll go
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: after them again. They've just announced gott an eight billion
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: or something for public housing, a huge amount of money.
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: So if any of this, if.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: Any of these so called consultations or partnerships slow down
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: the development application process and slow down the rate of
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: speed at which housing can be approved, I promise you
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: the government will come down on them like a ton
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: of bricks. The good news is the mayor and this
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: is not like a sort of a bulla recounts l
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: or one of those kind of lefty why tearly kind
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: of lefty councils. This is real sort of Sydney heartland,
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Western Sydney mticulture. The labor mayor from the right of
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: the party, as is obviously Chris Mins, who's been saying
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: all the right things about ending red tape and that
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: sort of stuff, including the previous story. So I think
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: I hold out some hope that this is just a
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: kind of thing to say acknowledge. Yeah, maybe we'll have
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: some Indigenous names on the new streets that we build,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: Maybe there will be Indigenous spaces. If there's a park,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: there'll be a yarning circle or some sort of note
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: to the indigenous history. But if it slows up housing
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: and development, it will be crashed.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Even if if doesn't affect red tape.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Liz, what right does a local council who are meant
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: to be filling in potholes, making sure parks are freshly mode?
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: What right do they have to enter into treaties on
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: who owns the land with anybody.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: And it's a big, big middle finger to the people
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: who voted them. Then you are supposed to be representing
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: your constituency. Two hundred and forty thousand people live in
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Cumberland Council. Only fourteen hundred and fifty of them are Indigenous,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: So to preference such a small percentage of the population,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: it begs the question if they pass such a thing.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Who's really running the council? Why do we affect you
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: guys to be on counsel and to sit as counselors
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: if you're just going to sign a treaty that makes
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: everyone co manage it?
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Not actually those three.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Land I'm saying, it's not actually a treaty at all.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: It's a step christ who was saying this is effectively
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: a treaty that will be the same thing as Yeah, that's.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Just essentially you're saying, there's us and there's you, and
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: we are two completely distinct, separate groups.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Let's have a partnership, they're calling it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Let's have a macarata exactly coming together everything but name.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: But I think.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: We're on a council website, right and you know the mayor,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: so I take your word for it. But you read
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: the bios of all the counselors and these words stand
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: out continually in the bios, and the buyers are only
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: one or two sentences, but diverse city inclusion. I'm here
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: to stand for social justice. Social inclusion reconst nothing to
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: do with being a counselor, No.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Not at all. So you can see this that's always
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: going to go this way.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: When you elect people who see their role as being
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: on council to bring social justice.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: But every other count and I agree that that's all
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: just a bunch of wankery that sort of means nothing
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: in it of itself. But you'll see that all sort
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: of counselors have that sort of stuff. They will have
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: all organizations will say we respect our Earth, inclusion bab bah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: all those signs everywhere racist, red flag, do not vote.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: That's pretty annoying obviously. Obviously those sorts of words pronouns
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: in your bio that I mean, i'd i'd love to know.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: You know, they're going to go knock on the door
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: of saving six foot four islander guys. Sorry, mate, because
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: you apparently are a colonial oppressor to the indigenous population here.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: You're going to have to seed your land to them.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: I don't think that council worker is going to get
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: very far in that conversation, So I'm not sure that
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: this is going.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: To be the end of day's event.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Probably right, Let's go to the UK, where the Labor
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: government is reviewing their terrorism legislation and strategies, and as
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: part of that review, they are now proposing to list
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: extreme misogyny as terrorism. Now, the way that this would
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: work is that anyone who's guilty of extreme misogyny and
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: will talk about the problems that phrase raises in a moment,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: but we'll have to be referred to the government's terrorism unit,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: which means even school teachers if they encountered young boys
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know in grade seven or grade nine who
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: are exhibiting signs of extreme misogyny. And Liz, we've never
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: seen a high school boy who's exhibited signs.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Of you know, tempting or being mean to girls.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: But teachers would be duty bound to report that kid
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: to the terrorism authorities if they're going to say extreme
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: misogyny is on par with Islamic terrorism. Bridget Phillipson, she's
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: the Minister for Women and Equalities. She said, I want
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: to make sure that we have a generation of boys
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: and young men who grow up respecting women rather than
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: the growing levels of misogyny we're seeing at the moment.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: It has to be about prosecuting and preventing. But we
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: have to start when our children are young.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: AE.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: You can't prosecute them too young to make sure they
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: have healthy attitudes towards women, else we risk a generation
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: of misogynists. Now to say that extreme misogyny and extreme misogyny,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: it begs the question, can you have moderate misogyny?
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Is that okay?
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: And who defines extreme and who defines misogyny? And Islamic
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: terrorist And this is according to the Home Secretary in
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: figures she released last year, Islamic terrorism represented sixty seven
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: percent of all terrorist attacks in the UK over the
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: past six years, seventy five percent of MI five's caseload
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: involves people from Islamic terrorist backgrounds, and sixty four percent
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: of all people in custody for terror added defenses relate
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: to Islamic terrorism.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: But they're worried about boys being mean to girls.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: That the concern here is on a serious note, is
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: that effectively it downplays Islamic terrorism, which is a very
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: real threat right across Europe and indeed the Western world.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: And when you're saying, well, you've got Islamic terrorism, but
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: you've also got extreme misogyny, it sort of downplays Islamic
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: terrorism almost to a point of normalizing it, Like, you know,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: it's just one of those things.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Well, when you look at their categories for extremism, it's
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: really vast. They've got one for animal rights. They've got
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: an environmental one. There's a category for in cell, which
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: stands for involuntary celibate, which they describe as young men
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: who are really resentful to women due to women's rejection
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: That is on an extremist list.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Just in cell sitting in their basements, usually playing.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: Some sort of like by day. They call that high school.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: So you're like, what are you guys focused on right now?
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Especially while the UK is burning? There are very legitimate
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: terrorism threats underway. Extremism not only of the far right,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: but also yes, Islamic extremism, as we've seen breaking out
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: on the streets of the UK over the last four
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: weeks after the stabbings in Southport, which is what three
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: weeks old now, four hundred and sixty people have already
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: come before magistrates in the UK just due to the riots.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: That have occurred during that. And these guys want to
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: talk about we've.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Got to crack down on high school boys or not
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: even high school boys. How young is she talking about
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: when she's saying boys and young men here, and what
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: does this actually mean? You're going to start running courses
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: in high school being like be nice to women and
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: all it does is create more space for young men
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: to be resentful, to shrug off this authoritarian figures telling
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: them that you can't I don't even know what they're
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: going to be saying, like, you can't do this to women,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: you can't be mean.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: I'm not clear exactly what they how they're going to do.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Because they don't they don't give one example of the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: misogyny that.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: They're talking about.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: It's just like, let me give you some examples of
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: extreme misogyny, honor killings, child rights.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Sex traffic, you would be very genital mutilation.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: That there's some examples of extreme misogyny that maybe the
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: UK government could crack down on hard.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: But to see anything Islamic, They're not going to touch it,
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: are they.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: As we saw during these riots, all of it was
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: directed at the far right patriots that people in the UK,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the natives have had e enough. We didn't once see
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: a single government figure come out and talk about the
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Islamic streamism that had given rise to what is a
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: totally predictable backlash.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: I think that there is definitely I mean, there's definitely
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: horrible terror like results from extreme misogyny. I mean, there
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: was a Californian shooter, one of the many many mass
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: killings in the US that there's just so many it's
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: hard to sort of it. But he was clearly, I think,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: identified as an inceel and the and the and there.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: And there is this weird online.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Community which is turned sort of what I was, which
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: was a port nerdy kid who couldn't get a girlfriend,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: into these these sort of hive mind people who with
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Andrew Tate and others. There's a sort of community. It's
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: got some weird it's like the bro online sort or something,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: or the you know, the Man to neet or something.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: It's like the man Internet or whatever. And there is
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: this foreign community, and people are worried about I'm worried
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: about my boys about Andrew Tate is an absolute horrible scumbag.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: There is no no pretending that he's just teaching boys
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: to be men and anything like. He is a horrible,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: horrible human being. Does some also, I believe he's facing
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: charges for sex trafficking. So I don't think it's a
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: bit like saying, yeah, Hitler, you know, I killed a
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: lot the Jews. But he was a vegetarian, loved animals. Actually,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: he was a vegetarian for.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Health reason, a lot of good stuff.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: He is a hideous human being and anything good that
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: he has to say is far out wide by the
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: appalling thing.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: How much of his stuff if you listen to what
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: are you basing that on? The media definitely just goes
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: after this.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: And he has he said terrible things, but.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: He's accused of doing them. He's facing he's facing charges
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: in two different countries. That's what I'm saying, facing charges.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, we don't have nerdy young guys who've never had
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: a boyfriend threatening to blow up a Katy Perry concert
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: or a Taylor Swift concert.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: They have gone hence, But the Californian.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Kid, that's not the issue in the UK and throughout Europe.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: Not right, It's not their biggest problem right now.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying it is not inconceivable that these two
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: things could become as extreme as each other and result
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: in Killing's just like it's not unconcivable that you could
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: have the massacre in New Zealand being just as bad
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: as you know, the attacks on the batter of cloud
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: in Paris. The difference, I think is just what is
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: that definition going to be? And I think when you
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: have so many people who are so easily sort of
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: triggered or so easily alarmed by what is off a
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: normal teenage you know, male behavior. Kids mucking around saying
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: stupid stuff like any teenage boy does, any or younger
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: than teenage boy does. If they're going to start saying,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: oh my god, that's a misogyny, that's a misogyny, you've
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: got to be reported to the police.
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: You've got to go to this re education count. That
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: is the problem here.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Just coming back to something you said, Liz, Let's say, okay,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: extreme misogyny is an issue.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: The government need to do something about it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: But the timing of this when you've got rights in
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: the UK because people are concerned about immigration for economic
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: reasons but also because of social cohesion. There have been
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: a number of terrorist incidents in the UK. It's not
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: just one or two, oh far more than we're here.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: So let's imagine it's fair enough we need to do
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: something about extreme misogyny.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: But is this the moment to say we're going to
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: list that as a major terror.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Issue and we're going to start to direct MI I
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: five to focus on you know, disaffected young males who
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: may be angry at girls.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: No, it's completely tough to rag to a bull, isn't it?
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: It is?
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: It is, And I think once again this is just
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: going to make the English in the UK absolutely ropable,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: because it's like at a time when, like you have
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: pointed out, a lot of these issues around women's rights
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: are only being brought to the forefront because you have
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: a large percentage of a Muslim population. Now who we
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: know when it comes to Muslims and women's rights. It's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: a very different world to any Western democracy. And now
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: you're saying this helter skelter, as if it's across the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: board issue, when really is it? Is it? Like I say,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: she could not give a single example of what she
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: meant by misogyny, much less extreme misogyny, much less in
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the younger age category that she's talking about. They already
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: have have an extremist category for in cells, which are
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: basically just I guess, a whole pile of sexually frustrated
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: young men and they're afraid that they're going to do
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: something about it. And like you say, Joe, there has
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: been many instances in the US post shooting where they
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: have found out that these guys who went on rampages
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: were absolutely filled with hatred toward women and were incredibly
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: repressed and had written about.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: It at length, etc. And so on. But at a
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: time like this, when the UK is.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: A boiling smelter of very serious issues, this is what
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: their ministers are coming out with.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: It's laughable.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Well, just to prove how incredibly fair and balanced and
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: principled I am, it would be worth reminding the UK
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: authorities what the progressive response was to people during the
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Black Lives Matter movement who said, well, hang on, don't
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: all lives matter? And they absolutely lost their proverbial because
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: how dare you say this at a time when black
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: people are facing the greatest crisis, And there were means
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: all over the internet with someone saying, you know, like
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: you know, my house is burning down, My house is
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: burning down, you know, you know, call the fire brigade,
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: and some smug white person saying, yes, but don't all
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: houses matter.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: Isn't it important to have all houses?
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: But mine is the one that's burning down. So to
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: your point, again, yes, we.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Should treat all forms of you know, violence or terrorism
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: or whatever you know as serious, But again, it is
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: the time when you are facing this huge upheaval in
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: social cohesion where you know, in a sense England is burning,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: do you say, oh yeah, but we better make sure
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: that we also tick all these boxes over here and
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: over here.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Not all forms of terrorism created equals.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: But again it is amazing how similar the left and
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: the right when they're in these exact same, mirror opposite
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: but otherwise exactly the same situations. And again you have
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: you know, you have, you know, just like you had
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: with Black Lives Matter, saying well, no, don't worry about
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: your lives.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: We're waiting just about the black lives.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: When people are going on about you know, well what
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: about all these crimes by whoever it is, you know,
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: extremist Islam or whatever it might be, say oh, yes,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: but what about you know, far right nationalism, or what
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: about misogyny? And they do it again and again and again,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: to the point where a UK labor counselor actually allegedly
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: because I'm sure he's going to deny as well, but
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: was was hauled before the courts and arrested by the cops,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: charged with inciting violence after it was caught on video
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: saying we need to go to these demos, to these demonstrators,
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: the ones you're talking about.
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: And cut their throats.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Like the guy is literally describing what isis do yeah,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: and then he's saying, I like and it's about It's like,
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: it's like, I give up.
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: You're all the same.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Well, Joe, speaking of extreme misogyny.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, a group of women about twenty just stood on
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: the steps of Parliament House in the area and I
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: just wanted to talk about women's rights and what happened.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: This is the most amazing story. I saw it in
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: the OZ on the weekend. Thank god they got a report.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: It down there. It was just absolutely amazing.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: I did my column on it today, but there was okay,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: so there's sort of Moya redeeming typs. Moira wasn't there
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: because he's still too traumatized from the last time. We'll
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: see what's happening with John Persuerto and the Liberal Party there.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: But it's kind of like these women's right scrips. There's
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: a new women's rights groups who have shown up and
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: which you're accused of being anti trans groups. They're saying, well,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: women need their own safe spaces and they shouldn't have
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: to share them with biological males who identify with women.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: Whatever.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Whatever, I don't even want to get into that whole debate,
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: but what I do think was just absolutely amazing is
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: that you then had these weird as weird if you
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: don't understand they but not the sort of mainstream kind
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: of trans rights people who are trying to get legal
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: changes or recognition, but these nutty, crazy, trotty fringe groups
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: who just protest about absolutely anything. All they're going around
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: and just looking for something to protest. Trans riss now
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: the protest as you are, and so they've rocked up.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: We've got some images of what they did. They have
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: actually rocked up. And this sign I've called tell me
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: you're a Marxist without telling me you're a Marxist. Here
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: is a guy showing the Palestinian flag at a trans
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: rights rally, and there is a science says fascist graves
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: are gender neutral toilets. They think they're in the Spanish
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Civil War. These guys are just there at the Palestinian sign.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: What they're doing, I've got to do with it.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: These transgender liberation protesters were literally throwing eggs in at
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: these twenty odd women who had just rocked up to
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: be like, hey, women's rights please, that'd be nice and
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: these guys come at them with eggs and water balloons,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: chaos ensues.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: What an absolute own goal by the trade.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: There's always these women are simply just like, hey, basic
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: rights for women, yay. And they can't even allow women
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: to just go hate Can we have buronzon that's right, No,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: we don't hate women, but we're just going to come
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: out literally throw eggs and water balloons at you and
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: not even let you have just a peaceable rally on
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the steps of Parliament House, which you've got.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Every right to do. So anyone going, oh, well, you
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: know eating rights and what this is tricky?
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: No, you've you've identified yourselves as the bad guys.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: I won't even let women speak.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: And do you think just into Andrews just into Andrews.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: Close enough?
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Wrong? Actually very accurate.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I think condemnist. I don't know if our producer can
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: do this. But while we were talking, an image was
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: put up on your screen where it had a sign
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: that said queer's bash queers.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: In that site? Should that not be someone charged with
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: incite to violence?
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Well, they're only bashing the a.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Again, these are the mainstream left worst enemies. So the
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: mainstream groups who are trying to get you know, changing.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Nazi daring to say that women deserve their own provate space. Right,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: So when these guys rock up, start throwing eggs, start,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: But that was not condemned.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: But they are the same thing as what happened to
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: so more redeeming was condemned the Nazi because the similar group,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: if not the same group that she was at, had
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: their protest gate crashed by a bunch of arguably neo
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: Nazis or far right supremacists. And so just because these
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: guys started showing up and said, hey, we're on your side,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: she gets called a Nazi.
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: And this is exact same thing that this is exact
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: same thing on the left.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: What do the government say about them?
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: They are horrible, horrible people. They are terrible and they're
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: making the government's life an absolute misery. The good news
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: is that they are also destroying the Greens, because the
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Victorian Greens are now being absolutely torn apart by this,
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: because of course they've got a lot of you know,
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: pretty hardcore, you know, radical feminists, and they've got this
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: whole just trans rights at any cost. Like again, it
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: is just the new obsession of the left. This is
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: their new frontier, and it is tearing the Greens Apartner's
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: this massive internal war that's happening.
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: People are quitting.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: So if there's any good to come of it, it's
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: that they may all destroy themselves.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Just before we go to a break, Liz. In the
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: United States, there's some movement on the trans issues. Tell
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: us about that, just quick.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: Yes, there is.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: So the Supreme Court, the Biden administration was trying to
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: get the mission to widen trans rights, particularly in schools
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: and elsewhere, which would mean that if you identify as
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: a gender different to that which you were born with,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: you would have the right to go into whatever bathroom
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: you wanted, whatever are the women's spaces that you wanted.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: And the Supreme Court has struck that down. So it
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: is a win for common sense.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: It is temporary because we know the administration is going
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: to come back with another goal at this, but the Supreme.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: Court has ruled for now this stays where it is.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: So this is the prevented the enforcement of provisions that
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: would allow transgender students to use restrooms, et cetera.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: And so on.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: So right now the school kids can say no, no,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you are not actually a female. Therefore you can't come
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: into the girls only because.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: The Trump appointed Supreme Court. Indeed, no to the radical Biden.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: They have the majority at the moment.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: But even if that does happens, you know who still
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: wouldn't be able to use the toilets is that Joe
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: fascists because gender neutral toilets are fascist graves.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: in tomorrow's papers. That's in just a moment, all right,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Let's take a look at what's happening in the papers tomorrow.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Joe, you've got the career mail.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: I do, indeed, And on the front page of the
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: courly Mail, two hundred and fifty kids are learning at
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: home as parents blame abuse bullied out of school, says
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: the headline. Homeschooling enrollments have hit a record high in
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Queensland as parents desperate to protect their children from bullying
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: abandon traditional education. Quick word to the wise, homeschooling your
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: kids is probably not going to insulate them from further bullying.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: That is not true.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: That is not true.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: This has now made me a fan of bullies in school,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: because if it gets kids out of the cesspools of
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: indoctrination that is.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: Currently the state school system. Then good on you.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I was homeschooled for three years. It was the best
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: three years ever. I absolutely loved it.
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: All the fearmongering about oh, they won't be socialized, Yes
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: we were. It was absolutely I absolutely loved it, and
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: I highly recommend it. The only downside is parents, if
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: you then decide to send your kids back to.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: A normal school.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I know what to do with this because we were
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: all leagues ahead of all the other kids in our
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: age groups.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: So they were like, what do we do with these
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: mutants who are way.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Smarter than all the state schooled kids who have just
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: been slurping up the indoctrination spot for years on EDG?
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: What do we do with these non cultural Marxists.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah exactly.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: I was actually home myself as well, so I think
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: about six months or something, my mum pulled me out
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: of grade prep, which is KINDI in Victoria, Okay, sent
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: me back in grade one yea, because apparently I was
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: just walking around in circles.
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: On my own, which pretty much still that's.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Just changed at all.
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: Still what I'm doing.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: So do you think homeschooling has been made more prepler
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: by the fact that so many people since COVID have
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: realized they can work from home.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, I think there's a bit of that,
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: But all the data and people are seeing it now
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: and educators across the border starting to warn about it. Now,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: all the data shows that in fact, all that you know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: homeschooling or teachers don't like that.
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: But you know, like the remote learning or.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Whatever has been absolutely devastating for kids. It's been devastating
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: for learning developments.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Devastating.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: That wasn't homeschooling.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: No, no, that's what I said, remote learning. I know
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: I used the right pie right terminology or.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Get some pieces like long distance homeschooling is comprosed.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: But as someone who did actually get homeschooled by crazy
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: hippy parents who never cut my hair, didn't help.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: It turned out.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to the front hair nearly six months let's.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Go to the front page of the Adelaide Advertiser. The
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: headline reads, all kids to learn value of civics South Australia.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: That's why they're running away from school pollution. I want
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: to go to homeschool.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Isn't this the state that completely ignored the referendum by
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: introducing a state based treaty after everyone had.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Voted no never to state the voice democracy. Let me
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: start again.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: South Australian high school students will learn how democracy works
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: under a eighteen four million dollar plan to decrease go
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: to apathy and tackle the effects of disinformation. Look the
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: risk here, of course, Liz, is that do you really
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: trust people who belong to the teachers' union to teach your.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Children about democracy.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: The one good thing I'll say about what I've read
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: of this new curriculum is that students will have to
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: read George Orwell's nineteen eighty four.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: It can't all be bad. And I'm to the list
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: and I would be in support.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: I'm in I mean, isn't this incredible? I mean most
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: people reading this will.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Be like, when did you stop teaching civics for crying
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: out loud? This is part of the breakdown in kids
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: just being sucked into cultural Marxism because they're not taught
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: about the wonder of democracy.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: It ain't perfect, but it's the best model we got.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: And if you think Venezuela has it better, kids, let's
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: do a study on them still eating dogs in the streets.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is should never have been dropped from
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the curriculum, and now we're spending eighteen point four million
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: dollars to reintroduce it back in so that kids can
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: have an understanding of Western democracies are actually banging.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: I want to live in one of these.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Significant portion of the eighteenth point four million dollars is
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: to get teachers educated in there.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, very you mentioned George Orwell,
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: self described socialist right of nine eighty four, you know,
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: champion of freedom of speech, enemy of big brother, also
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: a misogynist. There's been a lot of reviewing of George
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Orwell's relationship with women, and he didn't approve of feminism
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: when he was in social So he's going to be
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: reported to.
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: Me regarding he's going to be.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: And not everything all well since before we leave, Before
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: we leave the Adelaide Advertiser, there was a massive football
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: game on at the weekend between the Port Power and
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: the Port and the Adelaide Crows. But the front page
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: has got a big photo as you can see if
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: the Port Power mascot. The headline reads thunderstruck the person
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: inside Port Adelaide's AFL mascot Thunder was left with a
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: bloody nose after being punched by a minor during Saturday's
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: spiteful showdown at Adelaide Oval. Now I believe it was
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: a teenager who prior to the game, it was a
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: crow supporter punched the mascot in the face.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Government blood knows.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Sometimes, Joe, you forget there's actually a person inside the costume.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: There's a person inside the furry, a person feeling him
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: in the faith.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: A rival supporter on the other team.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: Leave the mascots.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: A lot of was portlow page job as it is
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: was Port Adelaide's and not entirely on it.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: To the front page of the Canberra Times in one
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: of my all time favorite topics, we are talking about
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: pfasts forever chemicals.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: You're slowly being poisoned on a daily basis.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Household plastics pose ninety five percent chance of health risks.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Tell us more drinks, cans, food containers, even as cyclist's shorts.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: These everyday items made from different plastics carry a ninety
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: five percent chance of seriously harming human health, a world
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: first study has found.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: So it goes on to talk.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: About the fact that the study revealed evidence none of
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: the products made from five classes of chemicals could be
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: considered safe. The guy who heads up the plastic and
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Human health at the Mindaroo Foundation says our ability to
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: reproduce endometriosis, miscarriages and polycystic ovarian syndrome in willem women
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: rather as well as impacts on sperm concentration and DNA
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: damage at birth. He's saying in children, we see loss
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: of IQ points as well as high blood pressure, obesity.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: The list wears long.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: There is a reason why the st you can look
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: this up, spend over two hundred and fifty billion dollars
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: a year on the health effects associated with this consistent
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: people in taking these microplastics on a daily basis. So
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: on a daily basis people might be like, oh, this
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: is just fear mongering, I feel fine, et cetera, and
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: so on.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: It is building up in your system.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: They're called forever chemicals because they don't break down in
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: the environment and they do not break down in your bodies.
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: It's making us sick.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: And does the government do anything to crack down on
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: all the companies using these chemicals in our everyday products?
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: No, No, they don't.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: It's a shocking report. If you can get a copy
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: of the Camera Times tomorrow. It's worth reading very quickly, Joe. Yes,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: the Daily Telegraph, the South Wales Liberals.
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: Then New South Wales Liberals. They're just a mess.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: They're gone, They're terrible. I don't need the Daily Telegraph
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: to tell me that, but I got it anyway. Yes,
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Captain Speakman in a titanic struggle. That is, of course
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Mark Speakman, the lead of the Liberal opposition in New
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: South Wales. Sinking feeling reads the headline, and Liberal MPs
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: have launched into Mark Speakman claim the opposition leader was
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: warn the party was heading for an iceberg over the
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: disastrous local government election ballots. I don't know what happens
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: when an iceberg hits a bonfire, but it is going to.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Be seeing it happen.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: We're about to find out.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Well, when we come back, what do we talk about
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: when we come back, Liz, we are talking about a
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: guy who was not unconscious when he got hit by
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: it in the face by a whale's in.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: Just a moment, Well watchers beware.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Welcome back will.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: The US presidential election continues to amuse Liz Donald Trump's latest.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Ad is pretty good.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: I love it. How do you like this for our
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: fundraising spiel?
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Now it is reported that his campaign already has way
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: more money than the Harris campaign.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: Hold onto your hats.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Not sure how long that will last, given Harris is
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: still in her honeymoon period. But get this him asking
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Americans for a dollar.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Or is he?
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: Hello? Everyone? I only want you to donate to my
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: campaign if you can afford to.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately most of you can't afford to, because Joe Biden
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: is a disaster. Sure be effective, He's like, of course
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: you can't afford to, But you know, Morale's support is.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Just as important. Brilliant commercial. I love it. Ten seconds.
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: I'm really going to miss that guy. Now.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: This next story is just absolutely amazing. I can't claimb
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: any credit for breaking it, can't even claim any credit
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: for finding it. Someone else did, but I just stole
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: it because it's that good. A fisherman has been knocked
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: unconscious after he was slapped across the face by a
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: whales tail. Yes, it's a whale of a tale about
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: a tale of a whale.
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: It's just amazing.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: The incident just before nine am on Sunday, about one
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: kilometer out from the Tweed Heads Bar. Queensland Ambulance Service
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Senior paramedic Scott Brown described the encounter as and I
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: think Scott should be admired for his understatement.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: He has quote extremely rare. Is you have a little
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: little bit of disbelief that has happened?
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: At first?
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: Mister Brown said, yeah, how do you think the fisherman felt? Anyway?
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Tragically? There was no actual footage of the incident. I
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: can't believe this because, of course, if your mate is
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: being whacked in the face by a Wales towler, the
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: first thing you've got to do is reach your iPhone
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: and always use landscape so we can show it on television.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: But we have managed to get a dramatic re enactment
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: of the event.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: Have a look same mind too. That's what he's doing.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: That is the proba.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: That is the popular new sporting pastime power slaps.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: And there you go.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Just exercise extreme caution when fishing off the coast of Queensland.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: That's it from us. Stick around Coming up is the
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: reader Penehy show.
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: Mm hmmmm.