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004: The Hail in Nebraska Stand (D23 & Lanterns Episode 1) · Concession Stand

• Nick: Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to the concession stand. I'm Nick. Across the screen is my co-host Jules. And before we get started today, Julian: How ya doing? How ya doing? Nick: before we get started today, I just want to take a little second to remind you guys that we have an email account that we that you guys can hit up whenever you want. If you got any questions, comments, concerns, you know, constructive criticism about the show. You got some s fan mail you get. Julian: Fan mail, you know, whatever you guys want. Nick: Yep, we got some takes you don't agree with, you want to talk some trash, go ahead. Feel free. Just, you know, be cool. Be cool about it. Don't go, you know, don't go crazy with the negativity. But obviously, if you got something you want to say to the show or either of us, go ahead. Hit the Get it off your chest. Get it off your chest. And email us at Julian: If you wanna get it off your chest, man, get it off your chest. That's the way I say it. And another thing, if you have any request or want to see us, you know, do cover a specific topic or a specific comic book, you know, let us know and we'll get it, cover Nick: Absolutely. Julian: it, and we'll do our take on it. But other than that, I'll pass it back to my host or my co-host. Nick: Yep, yep, yep. Yep. Yep. So if you have any any of those that you wanna that you wanna right that you wanna relay on to us, email us at concession stampod11 at gmail dot com and we will get back to you. Actually, I don't know if we'll get back to you, but we will we will at least we will Julian: Ha ha ha. Nick: at least acknowledge it on the show. We will at least, you know, we'll if you have Julian: Yes. Nick: something you wanna bring you want us to bring onto the show We'll we'll we'll probably add it to the show if you want, you know, whatever. So we Julian: And if you wanna remain anonymous, make sure you let the let us know that inside of your message so that you remain anonymous and or and you just you know, we can just cover it. But you know, if you don't wanna remain anonymous, we'll shout you out. Have a fun. Nick: Yep, yep. So yeah. But back to our regular scheduled programming. Today we're gonna be diving into a bit of movie news. We're gonna be looking at the announcements from D twenty three that we talked about last or that we predicted from last week, including the X-Men cast, and we're gonna discuss and review Lanterns Episode One as well as the end of Oak Street, which came out last week. So we got a full plate. Julian: That reminds me, I need to find a lantern's ring. Nick: Ooh, ooh. 'Cause bruh, them joints are nice. Like the ones from the show, Julian: yeah. Nick: like you zoom in on that joint, it has like these like these kind of vibrations, like the stone looks cool. It's it it looks tough. It looks tough. Julian: It looks really good. It looks really good. I I don't wanna I'm gonna have to look into that. See see what they did for that prop at least. Yeah. Nick: So let's let l let's get right into it. Let's go. So first bit of news we got here, Jules, you go ahead and take this. I know this this this all in your ballpark. Yep. Julian: this is my yeah, this is my Wheelhouse here. This is completely my ballpark. So if you guys aren't aware, Charles Manson or Melton, by fault, not Menson, Charles Melton. He is the guy who was the bo the younger boyfriend in Beef season two. Nick: Beep season two. Yep. Julian: And he is in talks to star Kakashi Sensei in the live action Naruto movie directed by none other than Destin Daniel. Creton, just to make sure I don't get his last name wrong. But Nick: Yes. Yep, yep, yep. Julian: for everybody watching, this this means to us is in my expert opinion on Naruto, is that we're definitely not getting a Shapudon version. We're definitely gonna get a younger version. Because remember Kakashi, for all those guys who don't who haven't, you know, finished or don't know, Kakashi eventually becomes Hokage. Now, that being said, he he, you know, has some time before that. So I think that, you know, they're gonna definitely be getting into the early Naruto just introducing us to, you know, America, you know as in this movie. And we've all you know, most people do know, but a lot of people who haven't, you know, and parents don't know or haven't watched it. But this is gonna be a way that they can, you know, really bring him into the culture. Because he's he's kicked the door in. He's held it open. He's been in here for most of us, but some people who haven't who you know, who don't who didn't, you know, read it or watch it growing up, you know, this is this is gonna be where you guys become into the fold now. This is where you guys become cool. Nick: Nah, right. And I think honestly that's something I'm really excited for in all of this is just like 'cause obviously everybody you know everybody has their preferences when it comes to anime and like some Julian: yeah. Nick: people some people just aren't don't aren't anime people and you know other some people are mid tier anime people kinda like me and then some people are like are full anime people Julian: Yeah. Nick: like like Jules. So it you know there's l there's levels to it, but I think when with a name like Dustin Daniel Creton who just made is it has it has made two billion dollars in counting in Spider-Man brand new day and Julian: Yep. Nick: gave us a great Shang-Chi movie and gave us a great Wonder Man series. yes right so yeah we'll we'll Julian: Great Chung Chi. Great Wonderman series. And we're gonna get back to that. Don't you worry guys. Nick: put a pen in that we'll be back but with a name behind that doing Naruto like I think that's the best opportunity Naruto is gonna get to like for Julian: It is. Nick: for everybody to kind of become anime people for a little bit. Like Julian: Exactly. I even think Nick: And and and and appr and be able to appreciate that stuff. Julian: that there's been like some major league teams like, you know, NF I don't know if it was the NFL or NBA who did it, but there was some collabs where they had they were selling some merch that was like one piece merch. I don't know, there might have been some Naruto merch out there too. Like where they Nick: Yeah, yeah, I remember. Julian: did a collab and so like it's already here. It's now just becoming i like it was the fab and in to people, you know, like early on nineteen ninety pe nineteen nineties people probably grew up with Dragon Ball Z, a little bit of Voltron, I wanna say. Nick: Mm, mm. Julian: But i it's like a robot where, you know, they you know, everybody have there's pilots to it and they all, you know, fight. Nick: Yeah, yeah. I think yeah, it's Voltron. Julian: Okay. And so And then you get Dragon Ball Z, and then you get, Nick: Mm. Julian: you know, One Piece, then you get, you know, Nar or Narto, then One Piece. and then you got Bleach. Bleach is one of those ones out there. Like Bleach, One Piece and Naruto are the considered the big three for anime. And then now you got your, you know, Attack on Titans, or you get real dark, and then there's Full Blood Metal Alchemist, which is probably one of the sad has one of the saddest like like Jurah Sensei gets killed moments, like where it was like dude what who thought of this like it's Nick: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Julian: it it no it's like one of those ones where you're like wow like that was dark but it was it's great because there's a great get back so like it's even greater Nick: True, true. Julian: than what than what you it's perfect so not Nick: Yeah. Julian: quite like you know Naruto personally but that's just me but that being said Nick: Yeah, yeah. But wait, what what do you what do you think personally? I don't mean to cut you off, but what do you think about about Charles Melton as Kakashi? Do you do you can you see it? Do you think you he could do it? Julian: think he can do it. I think he can do it. I think he can do it. Like obviously we and beef is probably hard to really, you know, get a Kakashi out of his character, but like Nick: Yeah. Julian: he has the intangibles, put it like that. Like Nick: Right. That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. 'Cause Julian: Yeah, like, you know, 'cause he's not he him just showing one eye, that's gonna be the main his main book the entirety. So you're you really just have to envision half his face and white hair. As long as they get Nick: Yeah. That's his whole thing. Julian: everything right that way, like I'm I'm confident that his acting can get the job done. Especially Nick: Mm-hmm. Julian: if he's like into if he's seen the show or was into the show or grew up watching it, like he'll know how to you know, 'cause Kakashi kinda is like a aura froming person where like Nick: Yes, yes. Julian: like as long as he can do that right Pff will be great. 'Cause like Nick: He's like an aura farming goofball almost. Like he's like I I don't even he you we no yeah. Julian: He's serious though too though. It's not like Nick: No, I wouldn't say okay, yeah, I don't wanna say goofball just because he it makes him seem like he's goofy all the time, but like he has his goofy moments for sure, but then obviously when Julian: yeah. Nick: it's time to get serious, my man my boy gets busy. Like, you know, obviously. So Julian: yeah. He's the the son of the of the white fang. So Nick: Yeah, but I I I think I think Charles Mountain's a good choice for him just because like like you said, in beef, like he wasn't as like confident, I feel like, of a person as Kakashi is. So like you you know, you kind of comparing those two characters is different. Julian: Yes. But if you can see his confidence seep out, then it's like, yeah, no, that's gonna be good because like Nick: Exactly. Exactly. Julian: Kakashi is one of those guys where, you know, he walks into the room and everybody already knew his name. He don't even he never has to introduce himself because someone else is doing it for him. It's that like it's Nick: Kakashi. Julian: like that's his whole, you know, like like basically Shinobi Jesus pulled up and was like Nick: Shinobi Jesus. Julian: Kakashi of the Sharing Gun. I've heard much about you. Like literally like stuff like that where it's just like What did you do? He's the guy. He's the guy. He's him. So like, Nick: Yeah. Julian: you know, as long as Charles Mellon can bring that, I think we're doing perfect. I think we're perfect. Nick: Yeah. And and that's the fur if if that that being the first like bit of casting kind of announcement that we've gotten for Naruto, that's a good start. That's a good that's a good definitely a good place to start. We know that they're like doing a a global search to find like who Nar who who's gonna play Naruto Julian: Naruto's gonna be. Nick: and everything and probably squad set the rest of squad seven. Julian: Has to be sixteen for those who are wondering, you gotta be sixteen. You gotta I think be of Asian descent just a little bit. Like you can be ha biracial, like half and half, but like, you know, half something else and then half Asian, but like I'm pretty sure that's what they're going for. Which fair. Nick: Which is interesting we were talking about this off camera, but it's interesting that they're going sixteen when like like you said in the beginning, or you know, it we know they're not doing Shapuden and and and Ship and he turns sixteen in Shaputin. So it's like where how how is this gonna work? But I still you know, we'll we'll figure that out when we get there. Julian: Well, yeah, 'cause like and we don't wanna again for those who don't know anything about it, us talking about it, we can easily spoil a lot of things, you know, Nick: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Julian: with within reason. But like it's again like it could be a situation like we were saying off camera, like where we our live action Netflix of Avatar where you get Aang and then in our next season he dro he's you know, stretched out. Like, we need a character like Nick: Yep. Yep. Julian: that from Naruto because when if when in when in If they do the time skip, we don't know or see how Naruto got bigger in the manga. He comes back just bigger. Which would which Nick: Would Yeah, yeah. Julian: would be perfect. Like if a character like Aang, where you see well, first time we see him, he's young, goofy, wet behind the ears, kid. And then next time you see him, you're like, he's Harden. This is different. Which is exactly the vibe Shapud is on because Nick: Yeah, yeah. Nah, exactly. Julian: if you know the story at all, we get real, real we get real Naruto gets real violent fast in Shippud and where you're like this went from a kid story to this is now you know PG thirteen and up for real. But like because Naruto's Nick: Yeah, yeah. But do you Julian: arguably still PG thirteen in ways, but Nick: yeah, there's still the yeah, there's still a lot of a lot of action and blood that happens and stuff, regardless of that. But Julian: Yeah. 'Cause Nick: which brings me to my question that I was gonna that I I talked to you about earlier, okay? I think I kinda have the answer. Or or I bit I I have a bit of the answer, but Julian: Mm. Mm. The question. The question. I wanna hear this question first though. Nick: Do you think one movie is enough to cover all of I mean obvious okay, obviously you can't get everything. Like even if they were to do Julian: You Nick: a trilogy of the of just straight Naruto before Shibuden, you still couldn't get everything just because, you know, li with anime, there's all there's Julian: Okay. So you're saying how many movies would it take basically to get to Shippuden? Nick: To get yeah, to come f or yeah. If if you were in charge, how many comf how many movies comfortably would you wanna make before starting the Shippudin era? Julian: See, you can do one movie like this movie. You can do one movie leading up to the tuning exams. You can do Nick: So like it would end with them starting the tuning exams or it would like hm. I th okay, no no, keep going, keep going, keep going. Julian: It would end with them starting the tunings exams, meaning they would go to the land of waves and do the Zabazah whole thing first. Nick: Yeah, yeah, you gotta you gotta include this opposite that that's gotta be in in the movie that's being made right now. Like yeah, yeah, a hundred percent. Julian: That that's the first movie for sure. I mean, come on. It's gonna be that. And then after that I would do The next movie started the tuning exams, maybe a few other little side missions, in the beginning, first. And then that and then like after mission two, where they're we see them melding or starting to meld, but also messing up, 'cause like they had them doing like, you know, not S rank missions, they were or A rank, they were just doing, you know, D rank missions, which is like finding cats and stuff like that, like and Nick: Yeah, they're yeah, yeah. Right, right. Julian: bringing it back. 'Cause like there you there's a cat clan where there's cat users just like there's dog users. And so basically they had to do that like in a few of their other early missions. And then after that though, like their free reign for tuning exams because then they have they're gonna have to start bringing in their big bad, you know, Orochi Maru. And so Nick: Oroji Maru. Julian: and so after that, that will be movie two. Movie three, they could do the they can start with the retrieval wait. Hmm. Movie two would have to have Lee's fight and Gara's fight. And they would have to go to the final thing. Nick: Mm, that's a good point. Julian: And it would have to it would have to end with Sasuke leaving. S movie two. It has to end with Sasuke leaving. Season and then movie three, it's you can get close to picking up for Shippuda, because Nar Naruto's gonna go 'cause we're gonna go on time skip. And then season so movie three, you can adapt some of the Mar the Naruto movies they had out there already, 'cause it's gonna just be live action. You can adapt some of those. And Nick: Mm, I think I think they gotta I think they're gonna leave Like I I ca I just don't think they have the time with all the with that with tr yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Julian: Well well, this is movie three, I'm saying. Like in movie three. So like Sai the like 'cause once the Sasuke leaves, they bring Sai in. Then you have to bring Nick: Yeah. Julian: it introduce Psy, do his whole background thing, and then you can start doing a r Sasuke's training with Orochimaru. And then you could Nick: But didn't they not bring Cyan until Shibun? Julian: Yes, they didn't bring Sai in into Shapu. Because they had they were working that's why Nick: Okay, so we s movie three starts Julian: Lee was w that's why Lee kept getting worked into the movies. Nick: Right. S so so are you s so so do you th so two movies before Shipputin? Or th or do you think the third one should just be like all the kind of side l or not side but like the movie adventures like t type of thing? Julian: The third one could be either the movie adventures or like that could be Shipuden. The third one could be Shaputin, so two. Because the third one, technically speaking, like like how I would have started it, I'm a start it with with the the moment Sasuke almost flexes Kieran. Or with the f the moment Sasuke flexes Kieran, which is that one jutsu where he he goes like this and the scene is, you know, he's like basically about to bring out his best move and then Orochimaro just grabs his hands like don't do that or like no not the time. And it's just Naruto Nick: yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Julian: down there in the bottom with Sasuke and Sai, or not Sakura and Sai, and they're just like, I think it's Cy at least. Maybe it's Lee. But they it was when they found went to the hideout to try to find him. And Naruto's like the fox is getting angry. Nick: Yeah, no, I that's one of those yeah, that's one of those ones like I can almost remember like the the drawing on the page of like Sasuke of of of Kakashi flashing in at the last minute and holding Sasuke back when he's holding the fucking out. Julian: Well, yes that part too, yeah. With the Rasengon where they fight. So that part has to be probably that happens Nick: Mm. Julian: right before he leaves. So that ha that's gonna be s movie too. Because that the it would that happens and then once 'cause Sasuke sees Naruto's attack and how much damage it did compared to his and just couldn't take it. 'Cause he couldn't Nick: Yeah. Yeah. Julian: accept Naruto was getting stronger. Nick: No, I rem I yeah, I no I remember that. I rem he was doing all that all that training with Kakashi, like out you know, out out in like the the the not the desert, but like he was do doing like ch Julian: Like it it was Nick: Chidoris like in the craters and shit, like trying to trying to level up on Naruto. my Julian: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Nick: god, there's just so there's just so much there's just so much stuff that they need that they could put in there. my god. Julian: So speaking of, you know, new stuff, we got multiple new t Marvel TV shows that are reportedly and developed at for Disney Plus and after last week it was reported Marvel would be dialing back in live action shows and focusing on an animation. Nick: Yeah, so like what does this I'm I I feel like I got whiplash because literally last week I was hearing, you know, we're they're the the Disney Plus show live action shows like, you know, didn't didn't all do that well. We're just we're gonna we're dialing it back on those, dah dah dah. And now they're saying, we're there's more in development, we're gonna hear about soon. Julian: So I think that like, you know, Nick: I don't know what to believe. Julian: yeah, like I know that X Men ninety seven, like the here's the thing. They think that like what this is what Disney has not taken into consideration. We all watched the last half of X Men ninety seven expecting it to get a little better. The last part of X Men ninety seven, which was written by a different person, not the same guy, 'cause you can check it, like the in the credits it changes, you know. Nick: Before you say that, I I think I had checked at s I can't I wrote it down somewhere. I wrote it okay, okay, yeah. I wrote it in our in the outline we were gonna do for our our X-Men 97 season two episode. But okay, he's credited for Bodemayo is credited for episode three, episode four, which is Rise of Apocalypse part one and two. Or I mean part yeah, part one and two, like that finishes that first arc. Danger. Julian: Okay. Nick: EXE or Danger.x, which is episode six, with Julian: Which is the which is with Cerebro. Nick: Yes, yes, yes, and and Polaris, and then Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: Strangeland Savage Heart, which is the one with Kurt and and and his his his brother, his half brother, and then and Dead Man's Hand. Julian: Ooh, yeah. Yeah. His half brother. That's great. That's great. Nick: yeah, all all great. Every every episode You know, he hasn't missed on any of these episodes. And then last one, Julian: And that so that man's hand was his too? Nick: Dead Man's Hand, which is episode eight, the second to last episode. Julian: this easy? Nick: quick little quick little spoiler warning for X-Men ninety seven season two if you haven't finished X-Men ninety seven season two. Julian: and I'm just gonna say I felt underwhelmed by the other ones that he his name wasn't on. I'm just gonna say it. Like other than the so he didn't do the first one then, right? Well the the first two. I Nick: No, he didn't do the first two. No. Julian: like those episodes. Other than the first two episodes, I didn't really like the ending. I like I didn't I felt very well underwhelmed. if you will. Like I didn't think I thought they could have had a better ending. I thought that's kind of a crappy way to just do late apocalypse. Nick: Yeah, like I don't wanna see Julian: The power I love I'm here for though. You know, we got Gambit back. But like W wouldn't had they ever beaten Nick: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or le quick Julian: him Nick: I I would have definitely much rather have gotten Gambitopocalyp or I mean regular apocalypse than Gambitop Apocalypse. Julian: What was that? Like and then it's like and then he didn't even take Gambit back over. Nick: Nope. I mean he d he didn't. He didn't he didn't. Julian: Cause I Gambit just woke up and just start kicking butt like regular Gambit. Would I miss? Like, yeah, that was tough. Like it was cool. Nick: Yeah. Mona Mona me. Mona me. But I like I like how they wrapped it up with with curtain stuff though, I'm not gonna lie. But all that being said, X-Men ninety seven is good. Like X-Men ninety seven is is not i Julian: Still can cry about that by the way. That sucks. Nick: no no no no facts. I can we can be we can we can have problems with all this Gambito apocalypse stuff and still shed a tear for my boy my boy Nightcrawler because what the hell? Like We lost a real one. Julian: like 'cause then it's just like Nick: For now. Julian: the older brother came and just saved a day. Like Nick: Nah, for real. He was looking out. He was really looking out. Julian: Like he just is like, Look, man, take me. Take me instead. And I'm I'm here for that. Like I would do the same. But like w we didn't need to do that. Nick: Facts. Like the ultimate ultimate sacrifice, man. Julian: We we wrote ourselves to kill him for some reason. And I don't like it. I don't wanna accept it. But I'll accept it. Nick: I mean we would it was either it was him or rogue and like that's his sis that's that that's little sis, so I get it. Yeah, exactly. There was there wasn't. So Julian: They wasn't they wasn't they wasn't doing rogue like that, so and it's but they wrote a they wrote themselves into this problem with having Gambit be a apocalypse. Like I feel like if they just let Bo do the whole thing, I don't think he com he finishes it like that. Like he did write Dead Man's Hand, so but like Nick: So I don't but we we d we don't know. We don't know exactly like where where Julian: How that yeah. Nick: yeah how mu even the ones that he did write, we don't know how much those were changed, like or you know, whatever. So it is what it is. But all that Julian: It is what it is. Nick: to say, X-Men ninety seven is is sh is good. Is not you know, we're not worried about losing X-Men ninety seven, like 'cause like they said, like Julian: I think that but that's why they are doing it though, is like I think they're moving towards animation because of that success. But what they what they're Nick: No, yeah, for sure, for sure. And like, you know. Julian: un like they're this is why they could lose money is because instead of doing Wonderman or I don't know, Ironheart or who knows? Who w is there give me another show? Nick: we could I hmm there's Ar Arbor Wars is supposed to be a movie, but we like okay, we're the we're I'm leaning I'm leaning to the wrong territory for now. But I but I you definitely more sh more shows could be we we we got more shows that we could be working with here. And so like I'm I I know that all the like live action Julian: Blade. Nick: Disney Plus shows haven't been yeah, bl bl but also supposed to be a movie. But I shit at this point I take it as a show and give it to me however however you can. But Julian: That's what I'm saying. They could have made Blade a show instead of a movie. You know you know Nick: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Julian: how many people would be itching on Wednesday to go watch Blade? Dude. I wouldn't be doing nothing. I'd have been in the nothing. Nick: you already know. You already know. Mm. And if it came if they dropped it in like in like mid to late September, so it was like playing through October or something like that. Ooh. Ooh, a little sp Julian: Ooh. Chef's kiss. If they if they just if they lied to us and just was like, Hey, you thought we were gonna do yaw like that? Nick: That would be so cool. That they're not that Disney Disney's not that cool, Julian: you get I would buy stock in them after that. Nick: huh? Julian: I said I'd buy stock in Disney after that. Nick: Not literally, bro. None of these none of these studios are that cool to where they they lose out on on on marketing money just to surprise the fans and to and to come out with some cool shit. They wouldn't do that, they wouldn't do it, but but you know, hopefully yeah, yeah, yeah. So hopefully whatever Julian: Hey, we you know, we we could get lucky. So let's Nick: whatever we are getting, whether it's animated or live action. Hopefully they're actually you know, they're not making the same mistake that they were in the beginning of the multiverse saga and just like cranking it out just to crank it out, just to like make money because it's the MCU. Now people know, Julian: Exactly. Nick: or like we we all know that people if if if there's a if it a superhero movie or show isn't good, people will shit on it. That's plain and simple. That's just what it is. So they can't afford Julian: You know simple. Nick: to be, you know, putting out no garbage anymore. Julian: just dropping bombs, like yeah, they can't they can't be dropping goose eggs. They felt they felt that. They don't like that. But like again again, Nick: Nope. Nope. We need we need golden eggs around here. Julian: golden egg they passed on. Yahbu Yah Yahya Abdul Mateen the second and you know, he's saying that the optics, you know, of Disney and Marvel, you know, on canceling black led projects is kind of obvious. Because it's like what what else do you want us to say? You got a billion dollars We want it. You have the potential. You have the guy under contract or you know, w however it is now. But like what's the ha what's happening? Like, is it because Nick: Yeah. Julian: it's a black led project? Nick: Yeah, and it's like maybe if Wonderman was like and obvio obviously we'd still be hurt if if you know if this if this had happened at any other time, but like if Wonderman had been the first project to be like kind of done dirty like this, then it wouldn't we wouldn't even we might not even be talking about the race of it all. But we we we this Julian: It's like Nick: is r right coming right off the heels of of Blade failing, you know, the a Captain America movie that a lot of people Really didn't like that much because he it the it you know, the the story wasn't really one that truly served the character and the character hasn't really been in the greater Marvel universe as we you know since Endgame, which why why not? Because he's Captain America. Like, you know, we saw Steve Rogers all the time. He had he had three movies in the Infinity Saga. Yep. And I'm not saying Julian: Yeah. Why? We had we seen Steve so much. That's what I was gonna say. Nick: I'm not saying Anthony Magan needs three movies, but shit. Like having Bapier somewhere else. Julian: He's Captain America. Nick: Yeah, come on now. Like So and then, you know, we got armor wars, which is, you know, scrapped indefinitely as far as we know. Julian: Unless it's he's Captain America. Nick: I don't think it's g I don't think it's that. I don't think I Julian: For those who can't see the video, I'm using air quotes. Nick: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't I hope it's not that 'cause like I'm hoping in either Doomsday or Secret Wars we're gonna get some type of scene where like Steve looks at looks at Sam and is like You're cap, bro. Let's do it like you know, I'm just here to support or like what I'm I'm here for this, but like you're cap. Julian: Yeah. Nick: So what's the plan? And I think I think I think there's a good chance we get a scene like that, but I'm you Julian: I hope so. Nick: know, I me just like a a fan of both characters, I would really like that. So Julian: I would I would definitely really like that as well. And you know but go ahead, what did you about to say? Nick: But yeah, but I have the the quote or part of the quote from the from what Yahya had said about it. He said, It should be a priority to change the narrative and to do what what it takes to responsibly change that narrative with quality stories, with quality resources. And I mean Julian: And who was that from again? Nick: from Yahya Abdul Mateen, Julian: And that was I meant the Nick: it was it wa I it was in a variety article that reported on what he said, but in he said it on a podcast. I just can't remember exactly which podcast. Julian: Is it the fresh one? Nick: I think it might be, let me just check so we don't we don't short them. Julian: Yeah, we wanna make sure everybody gets their credit as well. Nick: Where does it say? little gold men. Julian: We don't want y'all coming at us in our comment section now. We'll Little Gold Men. That's what it won that's what it is. Shout out little gold men. Nick: Yes, that's the yeah, that's the podcast. it's a van it's it's the vanity p van it's a vanity fair podcast. So Julian: Shout out Vanity Fair and Little Goldman Yahya Abdul Mateen the second, we really love you and Wonderman. we really hope that we can get you in something else 'cause, you know, great actor. Nick: Yeah. Not for real. And I hopefully we see him in something something else, even if we don't get a Wonderman season two. Obviously season one was really good, so season two would have been great, but if not, then just, you know, have them appear in in Secret Wars or or some give him give him a cameo. Julian: And they had a great chemistry together. Yeah. Well cameo had been great. Nick: Yeah, okay, yeah. Give me a cameo in like Doomsday or something I don't know, just have him sitting in like a coffee shop or like on a what if he was on a commercial? What if you yeah. That would be I think that's the c that's what we need. We need Yeah. Julian: That that that's how they can do it. They have him in a commercial in a show for Doomsday. That would be cool. That I would like that. I would like that. Nick: Yeah. Or or if y'all can't even if y'all can't mention or if y'all can't bring him in, at least mention him, like have like Ant Man be like like somebody like they're like hey, hey, where were you? Where were where were you, bro? He's like, hey, I was just watching No, I he's I w I was at the Julian: Or go get why don't we get Wonderman? N be quiet. Nick: theater. I was at the theater with my daughter watching Wonder Man. Like, what you mean? Like, you know, something something like that. Something like that. But Julian: That's that's funny. Nick: That's all of our news, our just regular movie news for now. we're gonna get into our D twenty three announcements that we got this past week, from you know, the D twenty three presentation. We got we got some right, Julian: Ooh s we got some right guys. We got some right. Nick: we got some wrong. You know how it goes. so we had you know, in last week's episode we had made some predictions on what they could possibly, you know, tell us, what they what they could show us, and what the X-Pen cast would be. So in terms of what they gave us, we were right about three of the things that they gave us. So they gave us the Vision Quest trailer, which we've been we've been we've been waiting for, which we're about to we're about to watch it again and and kind of react to it with you guys in real time. we got a new trailer for Doomsday for Avengers Doomsday, which we're also gonna watch right here. And we got the X Men cast announcement. So those were all things that we kinda anticipated that they were gonna show us and they showed us. Julian: And just for full disclosure, Nick, I only watched the Doomsday trailer. I've seen parts of the Vision Quest trailer, but I'm the most excited, like as far as as a show. Like Vision Quest, I'm very excited for just because of how good it looks, who's in it. Nick: Yeah. Yeah. Julian: Because like we like the f the crazy thing about ha like being a voice actor for a CGI character is that we never get to see you. And then Bam! Now we get to see them. And it's like, yes. Nick: That's facts. We see yep, yep. Julian: Now we get to see you truly act. And I I Nick: Yep. Julian: I find that I think that Ultron's character is going to be so funny. So funny. Like he's gonna be so Nick: probably. Probably. Like Julian: funny in a maniacal, like wanna slave all the humanity thing. But it's gonna be so funny. But Nick: Yeah. And it's interesting because like obvious or okay, we'll we'll we'll get into it after the trailer. We'll watch the trailer first. Julian: Yeah. Yeah. Just let's just watch the trailer. Yeah, Ultron's gonna be violent. Ultron's gonna be very violent. Nick: Tough tough tough. I'm sorry. Julian: Wait a minute. So we're gonna get a scene from Age of Ultron where the last Ultron bot goes away and then it just kinda cuts, I think. Or maybe Vision blew that one up but then downloaded his consciousness before. But w I maybe we'll get a scene of ex explaining how Ultron's up in there and so and I think it will be from that Nick: I didn't even I didn't even think about that as an option. That's a good ooh. Because it Julian: Mm-hmm. Cause it's from Age of Ultron, right at the end of the movie. He goes and tracks down the last one and his vision of him. Nick: Yeah, and they have that little heart that little, you know, heart to heart and and then but and then that's the thing, 'cause I'm thinking about that scene and like you hear like a blast and then it just like the the scene like goes away in like a f a big flash of light. So like he could have done it and we just don't know. He could have just like, okay, I'ma just I'ma just I know how to keep this stowed away somewhere to where it could never, you know, and it could never harm anybody and I'm just gonna do that. And ooh ooh I I like that. I like that. I like that. But either way, it's Julian: So we'll see. We'll see how they we'll see how they do that. We'll see how they do that. Nick: like I'm like it because I think the first time I watched it, I l I was just like, like, wow, this is like so much at once. Like I I couldn't even tell what what was going on. But now that watching it again, I have a better idea. And like the d just the fact that he like goes home, powers down, and then just like enters his like whatever his home was. What what did you call it? You had a name for it. The name Julian: Techno space. His techno mindscape. Techno Mindscape? Yeah. Techno Mindscape. Nick: Tech Technominescape. Techno Mindscape. Yeah. Techno Mind his Techno Mindscape. my God. Like and and then he goes in and he has all he's just he's just housing all the AIs that we the AI, Julian: He has Friday, Jarvis. Nick: Jarvis, Ultron, the the the hand claw machines that Tony Stark used to use. Yeah, dummy, Julian: Dumb V or Dum E? Nick: dummy. Like, bro, that's gonna be interesting. And like and I I don't even know. and then this whole like kind of overlying fatherhood thing that's going on because obviously Ultron Julian: Ye Mosl is Ultron Jewish, by the way? Mazletov. It was a joke. It was a joke. Nick: I don't think he's literally Jewish. I mean, but I he's just I think Ultron's just a troll. So he said, this is an opportunity. This is an opportunity for some trolling. So I'm a muzzle tough. Julian: yeah. I mean he he's a genocidal maniac, so like not saying that, you know, that's why he's Nick: A genocidal troll. Julian: Yeah, like he's you know, he's a killer robot. He's basically Nick: Mm. Julian: if Skynet had a body. Nick: Yep. Yep. Julian: So but so let's get into the let's let's talk before we do the Doomsday trailer, let's tell everybody what we got right and what we got wrong. Nick: in the in the X-Men cast. Julian: Yeah. Nick: Okay, so we really o didn't get a lot right. Like we really didn't get anything right like that. I'm not gonna lie. The only thing Yeah, Julian: It's okay, guys. We get some things right, not all. Nick: yeah, we get we get things right. We get things right. If you honestly, the only real way to tell if we get things right is by listening to each episode. You feel me? So Julian: And that's why you have to come back. Nick: exactly. We sometimes we we throw out predictions that we didn't even know we were gonna say. And it's just boil just like right there with the with the Ultron thing. Julian: Sometimes we have the script in our hand, sometimes we don't. Nick: You never know. You never know. So, you know, the only way to catch us on our BS and to know if we're making right or wrong predictions, it well, if we're making right predictions, shit, we'll tell you. But if we're making wrong predictions and you want to call us on it, keep following the episodes just so you just so you can catch them and you can you you can hit us on the email and and and tell us we got it wrong. We'll take it, we'll eat it, we'll do what we gotta do. But Julian: Exactly. We want we want the fan mail. Wanna drive that point up. Send us fan mail. Nick: Yep, yep. Send it. Send it. but the only one the only one I think we actually got right was I I said Adam Driver as Mr. Sinister and we got that. but Julian: I mean, we both kind of got the rogue one right with our conversation about Indy Ner Nivetti. Nick: Well yeah, so right. 'Cause we both had different picks for rogue to start and then we had the conversation about Indy Navaretti being able to like take those different you know, the different aspects of people and like being able to Julian: You know what I've read also? Nick: to snap into that what? What'd you what'd you read? Julian: I I read that she turned down like a movie with Leo Leo and Christian Bell and like maybe some other movie. Nick: Heat two, heat two. I know she turned down a heat a roll in heat too, yeah. And then yes. Julian: Yeah, Heat 2. Heat 2. It was Heat 2 and then something else. But she turned down those those roles for this. The nerd the nerd runs in her veins the when she said she had to crush an Optimus Prime first, I believe her. She turned down all those Nick: That's crazy. That's yeah. Julian: movies. She's she is for the cause. She is for the community. Nick: Facts. She's passionate. You can tell she's passionate about the opportunity and the character and thou Julian: Dude, I guarantee you we're gonna see she's gonna be wearing the rogue streak. We're gonna know. We'll we'll know. We'll know exactly when they film. Nick: yeah. I mean we'll know. Julian: As soon as the the thing comes out with the rogue streak, she's gonna be she'll probably get the hair dyed herself and just be rogue for a few months. Nick: But here's the question. Here's the question. Since we found out about this casting, Jules, you you told me you had a a theory about what a direction they were going to go with with this. And I I don't I don't I don't know if I agree. I'm not gonna lie. What did you say about how you think they're gonna do rogues? Julian: So are you giving me my point to argue my my my argument for Goth Nick: Please. Julian: Rogue? Nick: Please, please. Julian: So here's my argument, guys. We're you know, we're coming up on spooky season. There's been some, you know Spirit Halloween and Hot Topic now are owned by the same company. So meaning all the old golf and you know, hipster and all that type of stuff, all those things that people, you know, skater type of stuff, I think all that stuff's gonna make a comeback. And we're gonna get a new golf wave of something. And I think I think Nick: Interesting. Julian: potentially like this version of Rogue we haven't seen in a while. We haven't seen Brogue in a while anyways, but like you know, I think that this at least live action we haven't seen this seen her like this in a while. Nick: Yeah. Julian: And so but I think that if if they do it right, it could really go well. I'm just saying. Like, I think that it like for her character and as her character, I think with this supporting cast of everybody here, with Kit Connors, Cursor Abbott, Sadie Sink, like it only makes sense. to have someone who is like a golf or in a goth type of way because I think we got some you know, Sadie Sink seems like she's, you know, she had a traumatic past with her sister and stuff like that. But I still think she's gonna still move into the whole Gene Gray, you know, that we know. And so I think that we need some type of we need that they all can't be happy, I feel like. And I feel like it's gonna be rogue. I feel like they're gonna have Indy just really do it well and I I think she can personally I think she could do a great goth rogue. I think it's gonna come with all of the goth things of being dark and wearing all the dark eyeliner lipstick. I think they're gonna do that. Like I think that it could you know, I just have that gut feeling. I don't know why, but with this casting I feel like it would be really good. And depending on what story they do with the X Men and what adap adaptation they do, I think that it would it could it Well, I think that, you know, just gear but like as far as like, you know, what's going on in the world, I can see the whole goth thing coming back just based off of how the you know, the storage is looking when you go shopping. Like I think that Nick: Interesting. Julian: I think that, you know, I've seen some stuff in Hot Topic where I was just like, huh, I don't think I've seen that since I was a little And so I was just like where I was like, huh, maybe it's making a comeback now. So that's that's where I'm getting all this, you know. Help you know, Nick: Okay. Julian: so it's just you know, we'll see how it goes. Nick: I see what you're saying. And I see I see the vision. And the and part of the reason I can see the vision is because I saw some AI stuff online talking, you know, some AI edits about what it what what it could look like either way. Right. But I don't I think there's no way in hell they're going goth rogue. Because here's the thing. Julian: Ha ha ha ha ha! Nick: Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Like, I think the ro the rogue that we got before, I'm not like she wasn't. She was closer to Goth Rogue. She's not exactly Goth Rogue that we got in the the animated expo. No, exactly, exactly. Exactly. Julian: But they wasn't gonna do a actual full golf. And I don't think they would go full golf with this one either. But like Nick: No, I feel I mean, but I think if they were if they were to lean goth now, you gotta lean a little harder into it than you might have back. I mean, but but that's the that's the whole choice of it. It's like if you're gonna go goth. Julian: Yeah, true. Well we don't we don't have any inspiration yet, so like, you know, right now all we can do Nick: You're right, but Julian: is speculate. Nick: if you but if you're gonna go goth, go goth. Like like own that shit. Don't go like ha cause and I feel like that's part of the reason the ro the old rogue didn't work very well. Because like she wasn't really goth. She was just a little quiet, a little more serious, a little more dramatic. Julian: She's a s I feel like they made her more emo than Goth for some reason. Nick: Yeah there it is. Boom. There it is. Yeah, more emo than God, which you know, they're not s they're not the same thing. They're not the same thing, everybody. But but but my case my Julian: Maybe maybe they are. I'm not c who knows. Nick: case for the other end of the coin though, why why they're gonna go the X mid ninety seven route with our old our our Southern Bell rogue and you know the our our our giddy up, let's go, where's my Remy LeBogue rogue? Julian: Okay, wait a minute. Just so that just just because, you know, my my my interest was peaked, I had to look up what was go the goth versus emo and the key differences and similarities. Nick: Okay. Julian: So just for everybody listening, just so that we know now know and everybody knows the definitions, Gough and Yuma are both alternative subcultures with dark aesthetics and they differ in origins, music, fashion, and cultural focus. Makes sense. So Goth emerged in the late nineteen seventies, early nineteen eighties, UK punk and post punk scene inspired by darker theat theatrical b music from bands like Bahas and I don't know how to say that. Suesi and the Banshees. short for emotional, emo is nineteen eighties hardcore punk, nineteen nineties, two thousands, early two thousands. So yeah, she was definitely emo, that rogue w we're talking about. So they didn't Nick: True. Julian: even go golf, so it was an emo rogue. So I think that maybe not emo rogue. Maybe we get a golf rogue who's like, I just wanna touch and feel physical Nick: But but the one Yeah. Julian: physic physicalness because I can't I don't get to do that. And so maybe you know what? I I like the I I'm I'm feeling the golf rogue now even more. I'm sorry. Because that whole thing fits into that. Nick: I know, but think about it. X-Men, X-Men 97 rogue, it it it does the same thing, except she's not golf. Like she she she Julian: Wow. Nick: her whole deal is like, okay, she keeps she keeps doing all these semi-bad things, leaking linking up with Magnus. She was about to link up with with evil gambit, da da da da da. All because she wanted touch. Because she wanted that touch. Julian: She did link up with Evil Gambit. Nick: And so Julian: Okay, fine. Alright, but but that's that's that's more self destructive. Not you know Nick: She did, she did, she did. But but but then but you're right, you're right. But back to my original point, I think we haven't gotten that type of rogue in live action point blank, period. So I think if the if what Julian: Okay, fine. You're right. I Nick: the MCU's trying to do here is, okay, we're reinventing Julian: You know what? Nick: the X-Men and we're gonna give you some shit that like you can't help but eat, I think. Julian: I'm gonna backtrack right here. I think you're right, they're probably gonna go with the the Southern Bell one because I I had to think about it for a second. Like I had to imagine like Indy Neverady doing a Southern Bell rogue and like yeah no, that probably That probably works. So never mind. Probably z Nick: And 'cause I feel like she got she got a bag. Like we've o obviously like we've only seen her Julian: I don't know if she has a that accent, but if she d like she can train it more than likely. Nick: No, no, yeah, if that's what I'm saying. Like, from what we've seen in Obsession, and I watched Superman and Lois, so like I've seen her in that too. But like the she seems like she can at le at the very least she has the t the talent to be able to learn an accent well. So Julian: Yeah. Nick: I think you know, I think that'll go well. But we'll see. We'll see. But yeah. Julian: Well we'll see then. We'll see. I think I think that it can be done though. I I think that, you know, either or it would be great, but like personally, do I want the cough rogue? Yes. Will I sit here and say that now? I I think you've convinced me, you know, that Rogue will definitely probably be better with the Southern Bell version, especially 'cause we haven't gotten that live action, like you said. We have seen emo rogue. We have never seen Southern Bell rogue live action. So Yeah, you know what? Let's give it try. I I think they're I think that's probably what they're gonna do. Nick: Yeah. Yeah, right. Julian: So, you know, hey, Nick: Right. Julian: there's nothing wrong with it. So Nick: Yeah, but last last little last for or just for the to get the full run through down, the whole cast, we got Sadie Sink as Gene Gray, Kit Connor as Scott Summers, Christopher Abbott as Charles Xavier, Samara Weaving as Emma Frost, Indy Navaretti as Rogue, Maya Boyd as Storm, and Adam Driver as Mr. Sinister. Julian: Which is gonna be great. She has the hair for it. I've seen it myself. It's not that like not that you need the hair for Snorum. But like you definitely do need need to have the the Nick: Hey. She's an unknown. Yeah, I mean, you need you need the hair, you need like the hair, like it texture at the very least. Like you need the o the option. Julian: You need Yeah. Definitely the texture. Yeah, because like I mean I'm always here for the goddess of thunder adaptation because like I just wanna see a live action storm cloud afro storm. Like with her you know, like and her Nick: Yeah. Yeah. Julian: wielding what is it's not storm is it stormbreaker? What is it? I forget what she call Nick: Mill near? Julian: well no, I think she calls Hermione or something else. I have to ch I have to check that, but we we all need to do that right now. But yeah, I think that it's it it'd be great. But Nick: And she's semi she's a semi unknown actress. Like she I think from what I've seen, she's only done like some Broadway stuff, maybe. Julian: I think she's done mainly Broadway. Who else did I think there was someone else I seen that did that was that that was the case, that they just got a roll. And they've like where they mainly did primarily Broadway performances. Nick: I know there's a there's a lot of people in this cast that also do Broadway. Obviously, like they do other stuff too. Like, see how Seti saying Kate Connor was Julian: 'Cause Sadie Saint does Broadway. Mm-hmm. Nick: reading recently. I think they were in the same show, maybe. Or maybe I'm Julian: I think so. Nick: thinking of somebody else. But yeah, so so yeah, I think that's a good lineup right there. I'm excited about that. We're still missing Julian: It is. It is. Nick: we're still missing Magnus. We're still missing Magneto. so that could happen. Julian: Yeah, we'll we'll see. We'll see. Give it some time. Let's get into the doomsday trailer and then after that, guys, Nick: yeah, yeah, let's do that. Julian: we'll be diving r right into lanterns, so stay tuned. That's gonna crazy. That's gonna be crazy. But one question. Nick: Whoo Whoo Julian: Who do you think other than RDJ himself, who do you like I don't have anybody else. I don't think like when I hear his voice, that this performance is gonna be legendary. Nick: Yeah, I got I'm sorry. I g I ooh ma man, like I Julian: Like that's gonna be crazy. Also, Magnus was hurt. They definitely was af that that whole thing scene was probably after he fought Thor. So I think they only are showing that little part to let us know Thor ain't messing with him because he blocked his ch his attack with two fingers. So like I think Nick: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Julian: and now if we go ahead if they go ahead and let Thor Go drink from that there's a well somewhere that he you know, he'd drink and where he bec you know, you know the well I'm talking about in Rivals? Yes. Yes, the emo Nick: The one from Raffles The emote the the emote where were he bu Julian: but but that's an ac that's from an actual comic line or thing where he like it's it's what Odin drank to to become or to learn everything he you know he learned or no, like to basically get have all the knowledge he w he has. Nick: the o the all water. Julian: The Allwater. Is that what it's called? It better not be. Okay, okay. But like that Nick: I don't I don't I I don't think that's what it's called. That's I don't Julian: that's funny, the all water. But that's but like if they did that or like 'cause Thor has to power up again, I feel like. Just off of that. That that Nick: a hundred percent. 'Cause like Julian: looked like full power. He wasn't fat. He was cut, mean, mm, axe. Nothing. Sorry. Return ascender. Nick: Yeah, yeah. Julian: It's like so Nick: Like, man, cause it's just like and that's not even the first time I've seen the trailer. Like obviously I've like I've seen it, I've seen it, but God, it's just every time I feel like it gets a little better. Like Pedro Pascal, Pedro Pascal in here, like obviously the the beginning part where he's just like, Did you did you do this? Julian: Victor, did you do this? Nick: Did you and then Victor, did you do it? I was like, brother, bruh, bruh, and Julian: Ansar me, Victor No, that's gonna be fire in the theaters. That's gonna be fire. Nick: Like, come on and like just those shots of his eyes and like I've heard I've heard people saying that those aren't his eyes. Those those you know, those look like somebody else those don't look like RDJ's eyes. Those look Julian: Look, look, look. If it if we get a w a scarlet witch showing up in Doom Nick: I think I mean we've seen these Latvarian witches. We've seen pictures of the at D twenty three they had, you know, some like the fits in the in the costumes from the movie. They had three Latvarian witches all colored in what? It was orange, purple, and green. So who could those be? Who could Scarlet I don't know? I think Scarlet Witch has gotta pop up. If if she doesn't Julian: At some point. Nick: see she's either popping up 'cause v like back to Vision Quest real quick. Vision Quest is rounding out the WandaVision trilogy. Julian: Right, so she's either Nick: So Julian: popping up in there or here. W one of these two. Nick: Exactly. And like I feel like it should be Vision Quest be because it's it's that trilogy, but it would make the bigger Julian: It needs to they need to do that. Nick: it would get the bigger bang in Doomsday, like when you're sitting in the theater, you haven't seen Wanda in years, like she just comes at the cut on some like on some crazy sorcery. You said what? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Julian: Theater's gonna erupt. Theater's gonna theater would erupt. Theater would erupt. It would. It definitely would. So now that's now that we got that out the way, let's let's get into our Nick: But yeah, that's gonna be sick. Julian: main discussion, guys. So episode one f earned nine point three million views in the first three days. Biggest premiere for DC series on HBO Max and top five premiere on HBO Max history, which includes Game of Thrones, if you you know didn't know. So w you know, which Nick: Yep, yep. So that's a Julian: probably has number one now that I'm saying it, but you know Nick: Probably. Probably. Might we Julian: So go I'll let you I'll let you lead us off on this one, Nick. Nick: But yeah, so yeah, Jules just, you know, told y'all the kind of the streaming numbers that it did in the first three days, which is pretty good. What does that mean at the end of the day? I couldn't tell you because they don't tell us what these streaming numbers really like they give us these like they love to give us like Julian: Yeah. Nick: they love to spoon feed us these metrics. Yeah, they love to give us yeah, like it got however many thousand streams in these days, da da da but we don't know how that relates to how much money. the show makes or whatever it is. Like we don't know. Like it's not the same as finding out that Spider Man brand new day just crossed two billion dollars at the box office. Like we don't we don't get it, but at this you know, we we gotta take that as a good thing. It's in the top five for HBO Max history. But now is the time official spoiler warning for lanterns episode one. Julian: S Red flashing alarm. Red flashing alarm. Red flashing alarm. Nick: Boop boop boop boop boop boop spoiler alert spoiler alert lanterns episode one all right so obviously this is a very different or yeah very different take on the Green Lanterns than we were kind of used to from the comics and the prior appearances. so we have this is like a very grounded take on like what traditionally is like very surreal fantastical in the characters and the lore that it's that it's in. But in this this time around it's wrapped in like a murder mystery that takes place in Nebraska for Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: at least episode one. We don't know how much of the rest of the season is gonna go. There's Julian: There is hail in Nebraska. Nick: yeah there's hail in Nebraska. shit. We gotta go. Julian: Pay the taco, man. Nick: Yeah facts. He said pay him. that okay let's let's start with that because that Julian: We need we do need to talk about that. We need yeah, go ahead. Nick: That was yeah, that was kinda in the beginning. That was a tough that was a tough ass fly off scene. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. Julian: Like the way the way it's like, you know, I don't know if that was the air, if that was his green bubble or his green hue. He was definitely flying off with force, put it like that. That'll like Nick: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Julian: like something like where he's getting ready to go into space, like that's w that's how he would go to space. Nick: Yeah, yeah. That and that like it just looked so like kinda natural. Like it looked like it wasn't like a Superman like giant. Like and I'm I'm like he doesn't always like make a giant crater when he when he takes off. But like it's just it's it's just more of a production, but like how literally just said, I gotta go. And then just just dipped and it like it was nothing. It was it was you know, he didn't suit up or nothing, he just just zipped out of there. Yeah. And that kinda I think Julian: Like he just threw his hands up. Nick: yeah, and I think honestly that kinda that was a kind of a good physical representation of like what kind of how Jordan we're getting in this show. Because like the I I you know, just from obviously there's like loads of different versions of of like stories from the comics, but from the how that we've Julian: yeah, of course. Nick: gotten in like, you know, animated shows, animated movies, thing in like, you know, obviously Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern movie. Whatever. like he we get a younger how we get a very much very Julian: You mean Deadpool that was cosplaying Green Lantern? Nick: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one time. That one time that Deadpool was w was at Comic Con. That that time, yeah. Julian: Ha ha ha. Nick: but but yeah, we get we actually we get an older jaded version of Hal that's out here like he can't even get through somebody saying the the oath to him, the the lantern oath to him without without getting without getting th you know, spazzing. So Julian: Which is crazy. Like I was like I was like, what's that that fear? That's what I was that's what I thought. I was like that fear. Nick: Interesting. I mean and the whole thing, that, you know, c has been there from like the opening scene when we saw young John watching Hal on the T V screen, kinda given his first interview as the Green Lantern. the you know, he said that he had no fear and that's why he got chosen for the ring, and that's the same reason that John looks up to him and respects him i you know, in in twenty sixteen. So, so yeah, it's interesting that it kinda does seem like he he does have some fear w in regards to the lantern core, in you know, may maybe the guardians of the universe or whatever they're called. so I don't I don't know what that's about. I don't know what that's about. Julian: I don't I don't know either, man, because like he's definitely Like there's definitely something up with him. I don't know if he's just old or if he's just a a butthole, but he's Nick: I think 'cause he's obviously a little more jaded and stuff, 'cause like he, you know, he's been through like the th that line that he said about why he doesn't wear the suit anymore. I was like I feel like that like kind of wrapped it up per like, you know, said it perfectly. Like he was just like, Julian: Yeah. Nick: you know, you don't wear it you wear a tie when you're f when you first start your job because you're young and hungry, you wanna you wanna make a good impression, you wanna look good. After twenty years, you don't wanna wear no damn tie just because, you know, I don't I don't have to. Why do I gotta wear a tie? I've been working here for twenty years, like type. So We we we you know, we see that's kind of Julian: And that came out in the court scene, so like I I agree with that. I think that's exact like that wrapped it up perfectly because the court scene Nick: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Julian: explained that he's like, Come on, I'm I'm the Green Lantern Like like Nick: No, literally. Like Julian: literally he's that's like, really, buddy? Yeah, cool. Nick: I was not expecting to see a Green Lantern you know, arrested court scene in the f in episode one at the very least. Like that w yeah. Julian: Was not expecting that in episode one. Definitely caught me off guard there. Definitely caught me off guard there. Nick: Yeah, but we also get, you know, a d to contrast that, to contrast how we get a John Stewart who is young, he's hungry, he's sharp, you know, he he's very by the book, is he he's Julian: Yes. Nick: kinda a bit of a ho, you know, question mark. you know listen, Julian: Mm a little bit. A lot of bit. He he did smash that grandma, you know. Nick: like I mean Mm, that was kinda cr that was kinda crazy. You you know, just the what you think is just you know, a casual encounter at the bar that leads into something more, yeah, and it turns out the woman is married. Like what what do you do from there, John? I ask. Julian: And then you're going to their house. Nick: Yeah. Yeah. And like, and the what the husband made a comment to him at the end. Say like, you know, he said he made that little comment about about like how he didn't he didn't like like sharing his meat or something like that. Or something it was it was Yeah, Julian: taking meat off another man's grill. Nick: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, hey, so he knows? Julian: I was like, that's a crazy saying. Haven't heard that one. Nick: Like, yeah, but my whole thing is like, what do you mean he knows? And he's just like, I'm like, what is what is this whole thing they got going on? I don't know. I truly. I guess we will find out in next week's episode. But but I really like the just the dynamic between Hal and John. I think that's probably like the the str like the the tr the driving force of all this is just like, okay, we got this kind of this buddy cop like kind of training day dynamic where like, you know, he has to train him, you know, because we y as we know, he's probably gonna end up taking over the ring. But Hal obviously doesn't want it to be that way. He doesn't want to give up the ring. So that I feel like that like tension between the two of them. Cause it's like, you know, d f Hal thinks that John doesn't respect him. And John does respect him, but like almost barely. And it's just like, you know, he's really c Julian: Fairly. Well and it's and that's cause, you know, he's kind of a crappy training trainer. Cause the ring loser was like, You haven't 'cause Nick: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he doesn't he doesn't want to give that ring up. Julian: literally the the the ring said to him, Wait, I haven't shown you how to fly yet? Nick: yeah, literally. And Yep. And i Julian: Like literally he like, Yeah, I haven't shown you how to do none this? dang. Nick: it was his his outdated you know, copy save. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like bro You're not you're Julian: Ten year old conscious. Ten years late or ten years yeah, too late. However it is. Nick: You're not on your you're not on it. You're not on it, bro. You need to get on it. Julian: Need to do something. But and then I thought that the you know, I like the older jaded version like as we were talking about, so like I think that's good. And then the Yellowstone vibe works, you know, for the small town story for now. Nick: Yeah, yeah. I I I 'cause like that was a what a lot of people were questioning going in. It's like why does this look more like Yellowstone than it does like a you know, like a like a Green Lantern sci fi like Julian: Like it it was giving me like I felt like it was like a we're out in the desert like area fifty one type of thing is what they might have been trying to go for, but it it does feel very Yellowstoney. Like when I first was Nick: Yeah, yeah. Julian: looking at trailers and stuff, it like, Okay, maybe they're not going the whole Yellowstone route but once you get out to a ranch and you're like, no. He smashed the farmer's wife. That's that's Yellowstone. Or the rancher's wife. Nick: Yeah, and like, man, I don't even Yeah, yeah. And I don't even know what's going on with that guy because like the whole thing with him like he's pretty much a doomsday prepper for alien stuff. Like he's like you know, he like has all this like or make Julian: Yeah, which is like why? That seems a little too easy for real. That's a little quinky Nick: What do you mean? Julian: like a coincidence. Like what a coincidence. He's a doomsday prepper for aliens stuff. Nick: right, right, right. Like what do you what w do you know something? Do you know do you know something? Because we Julian: That's what I that's what it gives to me. Nick: Yeah, and then we, you know, we kinda get toward the end of the episode with like these what seems like, you know, shapeshifters, this like shapeshifter alien person that we get, you know, we catch and or you know, they pursue and get into custody and then how questions him. That was that Julian: And then he detonates himself. Nick: was a great sc that was probably my favorite scene of the episode, just cause Julian: Same. Nick: it's like, what do you mean that we got That or that he was able to tell he was an alien 'cause he didn't have anything racist to say about Julian: about Bro Brock Brock Usain Obama. You from Nebraska Nick: Yeah. Julian: have nothing to say. Okay. He literally said that like, Nick: that was Julian: yeah, no, no way, this guy, he's lying. Nick: Yeah, bro. That was and that was that I don't know, just the way that like Chandler or Kyle Chandler like went at that scene and like like the the confidence and the questioning and stuff, it was it was cool. It was cool. Yeah. But Julian: It was pretty good. It was pretty good. And then like 'cause he he said, hypothetically, if I, you know, had something to, you know, take drastic measures, this whole town would be gone. And I don't know what he conjured, what he thought, but it worked. Like it worked. Nick: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Julian: But I would agree though, perfect Jon Stewart overall. You know, I think it's working. You know, give it give it till next Sunday. We'll see what else we get. So but Nick Nick: Yeah, but or or what okay, real quick, what do you what are your what do you think happened to How? 'Cause what the hell? Like we we we end we end the episode finding out in twenty twenty six Hal Jordan is is dead on that same spot on that on you know on the in the bleachers that that John went and and met up with him on. You know, he was a cold body in the snow. So I don't I've and Julian: That's what I th I don't that's Nick: if you don't have anything then you're you're sitting here with me 'cause I got I ain't got nothing. I I have no idea. Julian: I I I don't have a clue, bro, because like ten years is a long time. Like twenty sixteen to twenty twenty to to twenty twenty six. It's like Nick: Yeah, yeah. Julian: anything could have happened and then it's like, all right, if it is those same people, like this is probably gonna turn into basically a detective Green Lantern show. So because like I I don't have anything. Nick: Right, right. No, exactly. Like it's literally now it's a murder it's a murder mystery. Julian: Yeah, like I don't have anything. Like I got no idea Like there's no there weren't any a there weren't any details given for us to be able to figure it out, which is good. Nick: Yeah. And my question, last thing before we go, my question is like we see that that Hal doesn't have the ring and neither does John, like seemingly. So if if th that would that would lead us to believe that John not only did John never get the ring from Hal, which we all c are kind of assuming, but Julian: Yeah. Nick: somebody else took it off of him after he died or so or or I don't know. Julian: What if that's what if the ring he's supposed to have is Guys. Guy Gardeners. Nick: The ring you're so you you think so what if or you're Julian: They wouldn't do that, but Nick: saying what if what if guy took Hal's ring? Mmm. Julian: Yes. And he's trying to get it back on me. Nick: I kinda I kinda like that theory, but as long as they didn't make it so Guy was like some big bad or something. Like I don't want them to make Guy into a villain. I just want Julian: Yeah, I don't want it that. Yeah. Nick: that it yeah, like I we know Guy is a little shisty. So like Julian: Like that's something he would do. Yeah, I took his ring. So fucking what? Excuse me. Nick: Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, I can see it though. That's like within I feel like that's within Julian: Like that's exact Nick: Guy's character. Julian: That's what I mean. Like he'd say some somet something crazy like that, depending on if they're P G thirteen or not. But let's the so we've both seen No, it's not it's not PG thirteen. It is very rated R. It's very rated R. Nick: And the which this show was not. This show was not PG thirteen. This is a rated R show. Which is an interesting choice because you're tr we're trying to get more, you know, a growing DCU to grow even more. And it's like making a Green Lantern show that kids can't watch is kinda Julian: It is kind of sucky, but me being an adult as a crow man I think is great. Cause it's Nick: No as a a as a grown ass man, I'm I'm I think it's great. I think it's cool. Yeah. Julian: like you can't really do Green Lantern the and the granny and that whole arc and his, you know, a little bit of hoe arc because like I know that Nick: yeah. Julian: th they didn't just do that. She's coming back. Because like we see them later when he has the you know I'm saying the the full thing. So Nick: The goatee. Yep. Julian: it's like I think that I I don't know man. They they can do it. I think it it they have they have their you know they have the they have the plot. very like it they have it. So I think that, you know, she's coming back. She's either gonna be a big bad or knows the big bad. Something like that. We'll see. so what else we're excited for is we both went to see Oak Street or the end of Oak Street and We're gonna leave that for the end, but we're gonna and then just get our, you know, individual what we're excited for this week out of the way. So I'm excited for Vision Quest and I'm excited to get into some new comics that I just got. I got the new Titans where Static Shock is finally a member of the Titans. Nick: Man, they should have had Julian: Well Nick: a boy in there for the jump. I don't care. And maybe there's some runs that yeah, Julian: Long time coming. Nick: maybe there's some runs that I don't know about or maybe this is like the whole special thing about this comic. But like that's what I'm talking about. They should have had static in the Teen Titans the whole time. Julian: Not gonna show you guys the whole thing, but just you know just a little bit of the inside. So we got Beast Nick: Ooh. Julian: Boy, looks like Raven there. So we got some stuff going on, but that's the inside looks like. We also also got some I think Nick has a static comic as well. Nick: yeah, I I got this static season one right here. I got from the comic shop a couple of weeks ago. I haven't started it yet, but you know, it's like a kinda more modern static story or static origin story. So I'm looking forward to reading that. Julian: And Nick: And then what? Julian: and all also not to cut you off, but these this Nick: Go ahead. Julian: new Titans version because I can I'll let you know you'll have to let me know how this goes, but I'll let you know if these if your character and this character line up in the same way because this one came out two days ago for everybody watching and those listening, Nick: True. Julian: this New Titans issue thirty-eight number thirty eight came out August nineteenth. And then we also got Nick: Tough. Tough. Julian: what were gonna be the MCU for the next what four movies? Two movies. Nick: Two movies? Julian: Yeah. So the next two movies, and this is what you know basically their script is written off of. So if you guys, Nick: Yep. T Julian: you know, are interested in to that comment and to that content, let us know in the fan emails. Nick: Set so what are the what are the names of those comics for our audio listeners? Julian: yes, so sorry for the audio guys. Avengers time runs out. That's the name of the first one. That's gonna be Doomsday. Doomsday plot and then we got Avengers Secret Wars, which is explainable by the title. Nick: Yep, yep, yep. Yep. Julian: And so we got Doom in all white for Secret Wars looking extremely menacing. And then we pretty much for T Avengers Time Runs Out, we got that looks like Cap, Strange, Black Panther, Iron Man, Reed Richards, Black Bolt, and I don't know who that guy is on the end. But that's who's on the front cover for the Time Runs Out for our listeners. Nick: Yep, nice. And didn't you say there was a something from the Russo brothers in the in the time runs out? Like a forward Julian: my goodness, yes, I almost forgot. There was a very, very good foreword from the Russo brothers. we might release it as bonus content, you know, if this episode gets too long, but here it goes. And 'cause I I you know gave it a quick glance and I thought it was pretty good. So at least it's good enough to share on the podcast here. So this is the foreword. We grew up in Cleveland in an old ethnic neighborhood that felt something felt like something out of a fairy tale. Our world was pretty small. But the con Comics we found didn't feel that way. We picked them up from drugstores and the corner shops, sometimes out of order, sometimes years apart, and we read them until they were barely holding together. They were surprising and rich with ideas that gained more meaning as we got older, and they opened up worlds that felt bigger and stranger and more honest than anything around us. Secret Wars spoke to us in that same way. Jonathan Hickman created a story that felt enormous but also incredibly personal. It followed a universe pushed to the edge. And asked a simple question that carried real weight. What remains when everything else falls apart? Nick: Mm, mmm. Mm. Mm. Okay. Okay. Julian: So that's just some of it. We'll you know, we'll just for time's sake, we'll get into it more, for those who are interested into the whole thing. But you know, again, that's what Nick: Yep, yep. Okay. Julian: the fan email's for. If you guys want content on it, we'll make it. Just let us know. Nick: Yep, yep. And a couple things I'm excited for this week. I think about a we yeah, and like next Thursday, Dark Matter season two comes out. I literally just binged season one in like two days with my girlfriend because it w like she put me on to it and it is great. Like it's on Apple TV, it's starring Joel Edd Edgerton or whatever, and he he kills it, bruh. It's like, you know, I don't I lit I truly don't I'm not even gonna tell y'all what it's about. I'm just gonna say it's sci-fi, it's it's a thriller, it's it it there's some multiversal stuff in there. That's all I'm gonna say. That's all I'm gonna say. Just go watch it, please. I'm begging you. Apple TV. It's on Apple TV, it's called it's called Julian: Okay. What's it on again f for for everybody? Apple TV guys. Nick: Dark Matter. Dark Matter. But see yeah, season two comes out on Thursday. season one is nine episodes. If you if you if you're like me and you and you mess with it as much as I mess with it, it shouldn't be a hard watch. You can fly through Julian: Now, Nick: it.