Latest / Kenya Kronicles / Episode 004 - Kenya Kronicles: Amos' Journey from Despair to Destiny
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- Ken Peel: welcome to another episode of Kenya Chronicles. We appreciate you being along with us. I'm Ken Peel. Along with me also is Pastor Joshua Gao, who is the president of Fishers of Men Ministries. And Joshua, thanks for joining us. So let's start off first of all as we are kind of gonna go international on this particular episode. And I'm excited for this one. But why don't you introduce our guests that we have here today? Pastor Joshua Ngao: Yeah, thank you for doing this, Ken, and helping us to be able to reach the many people who have been involved in this ministry, faithful sponsors and listeners. Today we have Amos Nalyanya Masinte. who are from Kenya. He is the principal of girl Victory Academy and the girl Victory Academy started first. Amos started more back in the original school, Kimondo Victory Academy in 2001. As a little boy, with no shoes, yet it's not all the way down when we found him. desperate without knowing what to do and just thinking that he's going to grow as just a normal boy in the village who were just running around and not having any, hope at all of life. And with that, and that's what everybody is growing even now, those who grew up with them. So we picked him. And during that time, he was able to get an opportunity to be what he is right now because of a sponsor who is with us today, whom God sent to him and his family. They were able to go and help him and he studied all the way from preschool. to high school, to teachers college, and he said, now I want to come back and be able to serve the ministry that helps me in life. Ken Peel: Yeah. And so we also have Wayne Studeman who's also with us, the person that you're talking about as the sponsor, but also as the head of the board for Fishers of Men Ministries. And so Wayne, thank you for joining us as well. And it's gonna be exciting to hear both yours and Amos's side of the story as this unfolds. But first, Amos, I wanna have you start and if you're watching or listening to this podcast, Amos is actually in Kenya as we're filming this and and recording this today. And so through the magic of technology, we're able to to bring him onto the podcast. So Amos, I want you to start off first of all, tell us what your life was like growing up, and then tell us how you got involved with Fishes of Men and tell us your story. Amos Nalianya Masinde: Okay, my name is Amos Nalyanya Masinde. I was born in western Kenya in a village called Kimondo. My family is of nine members. I have five brothers and I have four sisters. My parents are Benson Masinde and Jane Echulang. I came from a background that was very low and as Apostle Josias just talked about where he picked me from, I can be able to say that there was no hope left for me. Had it not been for the of men, I could not have had any hope in life because now I could be among the many who are suffering back in the village. but because of vicious men, that's what I became what I am today. Back in the days in the village, we suffered a lot. I was born in a family that did not have any source of income. The only thing they depended on for their daily bread was to wake up, go to people's homes. ask for jobs and sometimes they got these jobs but sometimes they could not get the jobs in any case they could find a job for a day that's when we could have some food at home and in case they could not get food they could not get jobs then we could sleep on an empty stomach most of time In our home, lunch was not available. Breakfast was not there. We only depended on supper, not every day. We had a house at home because the basic needs nowadays. I can be able to say about a house sleeping in a house, but during that time... In my home, the only house that we depended on was a grass-thrushed house, it had rain, it was not well covered, especially the roofs. And now we were rained on many times when I was a young boy. The walls were not also well made because they used sticks and mud and many times the sticks could get rotten and we would have a lot of ventilations on the wall. During that time, we used to live like that. By that time, it was very hard. And my parents, because they were not always at home, We, all of us, not only me but also my brothers and sisters that were at home during that time, we were affected by the jitters. We had a lot of jitters, especially on our foot, the heels and also our toes, even our fingers on the hands. people don't think that jitters can just affect your hands, but we had many of them during that time. We did not have clothes. we did not have food, Many of the basic things that people call basic needs, I did not have a privilege to have them all when I was a young boy. And it was very hard for us. Especially my father, now because of those many problems, it was not his wish, I know, because we make lot of stories. It was not because of his wish to take alcohol, but because of the problems that surrounded that home, it was the only way that my father could forget, about the problems that we passed on in that home. And in taking alcohol and being drunk, Instead of ending the problems, the problems now became even more because now the mother had to use my older siblings to go together with them to go and find for job so that they could help a little bit so that at least that could be enough maybe to take care of us for that same day and also have some necessities like soap and and to whatsoever. So just to speak reality, life when I was a young boy was filled disappointment and when I was a young boy had given up completely about life, I did not see anything good about life and as we were going like that I was not taken to any school because there was no consent left to take anybody to any school because I remember during that time there was admission fee to any public institution but my parents could not afford anything, even not anything left for admission in a public institution. So I was just at home. Our problems were known. My family was the poorest in the whole village. And that one was known even by the village administrators and neighbors and everybody. But our ministry was opened in that same area, less than 200 meters away. This minister was opened out of the call from Apostle Joshua Nkau. The ministry during that time was, and also today was, it was a call from God to apostle to be able to care for the poor, to be able to care for the less privileged people in the society and those ones who are passing through a lot of problems. So I was among the first pupils to be admitted in that school, having been taken there by the community members, the elders, the village elders. and also some of the Christians. They took me for admission because they saw that I qualify for that and they knew that I was one of those who could benefit from there. Having been taken there as I was schooling in a very short period of time. we were announced that visitors were coming from the United States and we prepared very well to receive the visitors. They came and the visitors had picked us to sponsor us. I remember I was one of those ones who was picked by Wayne together with the mom Nancy. Angela was also present. They picked me among the team that they picked and there I can be able to say that's how my life changed because Immediately they took me I was in rags But immediately they took me one of the things that they they surprised me with I got new pairs of uniforms A boy from the village who could not be able to afford that, whose parents had given up about their life, about the child's life, today that child had been given new pairs of uniform, given shoes to cover the foot. And that made me very, very happy. having been sponsored by a family who have and now spending time together. That was one of the biggest things that I remember up to today. The love that they showed for that day, how excited they were, they carried us around, Ken Peel: Mm. Amos Nalianya Masinde: how we felt in the village, it was a very big thing. Ken Peel: Yeah. Amos Nalianya Masinde: That's how my life changed. Just from the picking me up, that's how my life One of the things that they did was to sponsor my education. Within the shortest period of time, admitted in a boarding school because now going back home with the same problems, I was admitted in a Fishers of Maine boarding school and I started getting my diet all the way from breakfast, lunch, supper. That was predictable. Ken Peel: Mm-hmm. Amos Nalianya Masinde: That was the new chapter of life that I lived in Fishers. I just fell as if I am in another world. That was just new life that I had begun to me. I put in my efforts in my education and academics because I knew it was through education that I could have a bright future. So I put my best foot forward, tried my level best, was loved by the teachers who were there, was loved by everybody who was around and... The love inside me was so I could not wish even during closing schools, I remember many of the closing days, I could not even accept to go for a holiday. I wanted to stay in the boarding because that was home, that was everything. I went like that, I completed my primary education. Sponsorship continued through high school. I was taken to one of the best performing county, one of the best performing extra county schools. My schools was paid fully. I was given basic needs in that school, shopping for the schooling and everything that was needed in that school. That was so good to me. I had an easy time in high school. I enjoyed new friends, hope in life. I passed with flying colors and I had myself a good grade that could be able to take me to college. And Wayne did not stop his sponsorship there. It continued through high school, through college. He sponsored me in college, paid my school fees, gave me the basic needs because even in college, I could not be able to ask my parents for soap because how could he give me that? Did not have any way of income. So it was so happy for me to be in college. One of the things that I've been doing As a student, especially during our communications together with Wayne, he has been writing letters and I've been writing back to him back and forth. We've been doing that. has been sending me pictures. And one of the things that I do up to today, is that I have his pictures and his family pictures. I do pray for him a lot because has always been the best person in my life Most probably even at night I can shout Wayne. Ken Peel: Mm-hmm. Amos Nalianya Masinde: He has been a very good person in my life, him together with the family. They the most important people in my Ken Peel: Mm-hmm. Amos Nalianya Masinde: life because they have uplifted me from nothing and they've taken me all the way to today, principal of a school. That is something I cannot take for granted. I graduated in college with the highest... grades ever in the college having been pronounced the best teacher and now had to start my journey of venturing into that profession. I became a teacher I satisfied by the teacher service commission of Kenya to be able to teach in any school in this republic of Kenya and I was given job in the Fishes of Men Ngao Victoria Academy in the capacity of a school's principal. I enjoy a lot to be the principal today, taking care hundreds of children. In fact, I have 296 children. I have pre-primary school. I have primary school and I have a junior secondary school that I'm taking care of them all as their principal. Seeing them waking up and some having many problems the way I used to suffer many years ago. And today I can just see them. I know exactly what they're passing through. I just look at them and I know this one has this and this one has this. That is what the Lord has brought me up to do, to be able to care for the children. I was cared for by Wayne, but today caring for 296. So Wayne's work is still in Ken Peel: Yeah. Amos Nalianya Masinde: progress. God destined him to be able to take care of many children in and through sponsoring me, he is in the same way, it's when we're taking care of these children. And that excites me a lot. When you come to my school, you can be able to see how happy faces I have, how children enjoy being around me. And I know exactly where I came from, just encouraging them, telling them there is hope in life. So that's how my journey has been. I'm now a glad principle. Ken Peel: Yeah. Amos Nalianya Masinde: Seeing Wayne is something that touches my heart a lot. Yeah. Ken Peel: Yeah. Wow. Well, what a testimony for sure, Amos. And I love two things. Well, more than that, I love everything you said, but two things really stood out to me, and that is how you call Wayne's wife mom and just how you express your love for them. It just really touches my heart. The other thing too is that the ripple effect of what a sponsorship for a child can do is when they sponsor a child. For example, now you're being responsible for 296 kids or more and and who knows how d many down the road that will affect as well. And so that's exactly what we're talking about here is just a great story of how this sponsorship has changed your life, but now is changing hundreds of other lives as well. And so Wayne, I want to talk with you a little bit and find out a little bit about your story and how you came to sponsor Amos and how your family got involved in his life. So why don't you share that story? Wayne: Well, our family was introduced to Fish as a men through a shared mission activity and the an individual that we had worked with at a homeless shelter called us and said, Hey, there's a gentleman here I think you need to meet and so I carved a moment out of my schedule and they dropped by that afternoon and then I met Joshua and we were informed that there was a plan to go to Kenya. There was going to be a large group going would we be interested? And we had been exposed to other Kenyan missionaries, choirs would travel and come to our church, and clearly our hearts have been pre touched to give consideration to investing and to giving more on an international basis. So we we looked into that more, and when it all came to fruition, it turned out that. We had a very private tour 'cause only three of the group were able to go, and that was my wife Nancy, my daughter Angela and I. And so we traveled there to to see the mission, to get a sense for its existence, its reality, and to come away with an understanding of is this a great place to invest some gifts in Jesus' name. And I would have to admit that I would never have guessed when we picked Amos, the smallest person there that looked like he needed the most help. I never would have guessed in a million years that he would be here today talking to me, having achieved such level of success. So it's a tribute to what a few dollars can do, and mean relatively speaking Just a very few dollars over several years, yes. But it's a tribute to to God magnifying just gifts given in his name. It's obviously a tribute to Amos for the way he appreciated it and God worked in his heart to work very intensively and hard to be the best student all the way along and to see how he came from being almost like the runt of the litter, as we would say in agriculture here. to being the the pick of the litter and to being somebody that I can say with with great confidence I'm incredibly proud of. So yes, Amos, yes, thank you. Thank you for making the most of those investments. and thank you for the prayers. We have felt those prayers over the years, and I even feel them now as as we have this discussion. And I am proud to to call you my son. Ken Peel: Wow, that's very special. So Joshua, I want to turn to you for just a second and have you talk a little bit about child sponsorship and well for let's start off with Pastor Joshua Ngao: Okay. Ken Peel: first of all, why did you start doing that? And then how can somebody get involved if they want to possibly sponsor a child? Pastor Joshua Ngao: Well as I said on my our first podcast, Kenya Chronicles one, I was born in eastern Kenya just like the way Amos is saying that exactly what what I was. In Kenya we call them like when Amos the way he was is what is called Chocora. that's like it's garbage in then go to the garbage and then grab food that has been thrown away by people. it's like a garbage scavenger. That's what it looked like and that's what I grew up where I woke up every morning without eating. walking more than ten miles away to go to to school without shoes. I got my first a pair of shoes when I was sixteen. But during that time my prayer was, God, if you ever open the door for me, I want you to send me back and to try to change the situation of children I don't want to see children passing through what I passed through. So that was the passion of what I passed through, going without food, going without, clothes. Like you said, I had just a school uniform and that was Saturday and Sunday for s was it was just my uniform. I did not have anything else. And I know that's what the children in Gimondo were. And as I did that, I told the Lord that I want for him to call me. And then that's how when I was working, the Lord reminded me later in the years that you asked that I call you. So he called me and I went back to to the slums. Started the ministry in November 15, 1994, I incorporated Fisher Some ministries in Kenya, the way it works in Kenya is if the you feel that you are called, you go to your village and you start things there. But that if you are not listening to the Lord. The Lord called me to go to the other side of the country. People who don't speak my language. In Kenya we have forty-two different They all speak different, they have their own culture. So being a Kamba, I was called to go to the Luoyah all the way in Ketale, which is foreign. Everybody, even in Kenya, when I talk to people, they ask me how How comes you went to Getale? And that's not your country, that's not where you come from. But the Lord did not send me to the city of Getale. He sent me to a complete village where only squatters were staying there. And they did not own the land. So they did not have any jobs, they did not have food, almost. 200 families. So the Lord took us to the middle of them. And that's where he settled us. And with that, that's why Amos now has like five teachers who are from his class and they are teaching with him. The other day we wanted to put Stirling and when we found who was doing it, is one of my kids who started with with Amos, and that's the sponsorship, the call because of that kind of poverty that I passed it through. So that's what pushed me to go and start the school there. which we started with a few children. When Wayne, the the president of Bonbone, was in Kenya with his family, we did not have like the three hundred plus kids who are there now. There were just very few. And but they were maybe more than eighty, ninety and all this they came lay they lined all the way, all the and then and in just in not big kids who are together. He picked one there, one there, and this little man, he was picked too, and that's where we are now having, that product. My joy right now is when I look at what has been done and to see the product what love can can produce. just loving that little boy there in the village who could be now a chokora or even and when they grow older they become thieves and then they are shot down by the police. But Wayne helped to save this boy who is now being a big blessing. it's a seed And Wayne is a farmer. And he knows that when he starts planting, he puts the seed. He talks about yield. And the yield is right here. It's a seed that was planted. It is yielding a lot. So I wish he can use the same. to do it is yield because this is a better one. You that they are planted but they add to water. They have watered that seed all the way to where now it is producing. So I thank God for calling me to this ministry to be a voice to these kids who cannot have anything and just some blessing to have him Amos today being able to to be the right there and see that to to just to show what God give people ask what what would Jesus do? This is what Jesus would do. He's doing it and he's Ken Peel: Yeah. Pastor Joshua Ngao: producing fruit. Ken Peel: Yeah, that's right. So, real quick, Joshua, what if somebody is seeing this or hearing this and they're feeling like they'd like to find out more about sponsoring a child like Amos what would you say to that person? How do they go about doing that? Pastor Joshua Ngao: So the anybody who wants to to sponsor first if they are here in the court series or near us, they can come to the office here in fourteen eleven Brady or they can call us five six three eight two three five eight one nine and the best way is our website FOM Ministries. And when you go if you want to sponsor child on top there is child sponsorship. You click needing sponsors and all the children who are needing sponsors are right there. And also if you want to watch one of these podcasts, you click on top. There is a a link with the red on top of the website. You click Kenya Chronicles And then you go in and you see all our other podcasts that we have done. But if you do that, you fill the form and then you pick a child, then we won't be able you'll be able to have a child right like right now. All the children that are sponsored, they are writing letters to their sponsors. We are sending a big box today to Kenya from the sponsors. So there is that communication and love from the sponsors and then the children writing back and then you can celebrate Christmas with them and those kids become like your own children. That's why you add even Amos saying dad and mom, because these are his parents because without them he could not be where he is. they were able to go with him all the way and every time we talk, when he asks about when he doesn't ask me about wine. He he asks about his dad and mom. So these kids Ken Peel: Mm-hmm. Pastor Joshua Ngao: then grow up and even Now he's married and Wayne is going to start having grandkids very soon. the funny thing about him, he's married Amos Nalianya Masinde: you Pastor Joshua Ngao: a girl that was named my ma mom was Sarah Kate and his wife is Sarah Kate. So I respect him and I love him too. Ken Peel: that's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Amos, let me ask you real quick. So Joshua mentioned, the communication between you and Wayne and his family, and getting the Christmas gifts and getting presents and things like that. Share with me a little bit about that. What was it like for you to know that you had somebody so far away, but yet They were communicating with you and they were sending gifts and sending their love through those gifts to you. What was that like for you to receive those types of things? Amos Nalianya Masinde: One of the things that I can be able to say, it was so much exciting, especially when it came to that time of writing to and from. To my side, just writing and be able to share what I was feeling inside my heart, that made me so excited because it was through that occasion that you could be able to write what you wanted. And it is so good because these are very real things that we write to our sponsors. Our teachers give us a chance to be able to write exactly what we feel like. So writing to Wayne was one of my most good and exciting experiences. On the other side, receiving letters from them and also receiving from them. It was so much exciting because part of the gifts that we were receiving is Christmas clothes. especially in poor homes like the one that I came from, having Christmas clothes is a problem. And now it's Christmas and I'm having something to cover my body, feeling like how other children from other homes are feeling and just enjoying with them Christmas, the birth of Jesus. That was one of the most exciting having heard from them, hearing what they're saying and also having something to cover your body, which is very good. are fashion clothes and are celebrating that can put you in the same category as other children so that you go together to church. That was so exciting. Yeah. Ken Peel: Right. Yeah, yeah. So Wayne, talk a little bit from your perspective of, writing back and forth and getting letters from Amos and what was that like for you and your family? Wayne: Well it was always a special day when the letters w we would receive from Amos and to to be able to read them, of course it was easier as he got older and wrote better, but we could Ken Peel: Right. Wayne: we could easily decipher, even in the early years when he was beginning to learn to print, what he wanted to say and and his level of appreciation was it was always strong and came through. And then to watch him grow, develop, To send thank you notes for the gifts that we would send. I mean, it's just it's just very affirming. And even in those days, there's never a doubt in our mind that this small investment we were making in this little guy was turning into a big deal. A big deal because he got bigger, a big deal because he was excelling at every level, but also affirming that we knew that. These few dollars that we were sharing were making a big difference for somebody not just for today, not just for tomorrow's education, maybe having a good career, making sure he was fed, but to know that his heart now was with us and we would share eternity with him. And I think it's anybody thinking of being a sponsor, yes, we want to feed children. Yes, we want to care for people as Jesus would want us to. But the ultimate payoff is yet to be experienced when we walk through the gates of heaven Pastor Joshua Ngao: huh. Wayne: and we get to reunite with these these children we didn't get to spend a lot of time with. Pastor Joshua Ngao: Amen. Amen. Ken Peel: Yeah, that's right, So, Amos, I want to come to you and I wanna ask you right now to share from your heart something with Wayne that would really show your gratitude and what the Lord has done through Wayne and his family in your life. What would you say to Wayne right now? Amos Nalianya Masinde: and foremost, I would like to give my sincere appreciation to Wayne and also to my mum, also to Angela, their daughter. for the heart of just being kind and coming to Kenya in Nkitali and seeing that among the many that they picked that day, seeing that the Lord had something for me for the future. want to be so much appreciative for what you a person I just talked in a while, In my village, if people don't go to school, one of the things that they do is to become thieves. If they cannot become thieves, they have to be drug addicts, the same way my father ended up being. also, the other thing that someone needs to become is to live like street children and to live life that I... to just live in total poverty, life that no one can ever admire. So the other thing is the weight of life that I could have ended up living, I don't know. thank you Wayne, because one, you have saved me from the tortures of life and the cruel life. Secondly, thank you because through you I was sharing to apostle one day and I was telling him that through Wayne's today my father is saved again Christian and he does not drink again because because Ken Peel: Praise the Lord. Amos Nalianya Masinde: whatever Yeah, so I told my father through when my father today is a saved Christian because At least he has lunch and he has breakfast and he has supper through me And due to that, he's not having any drug addiction. He goes to church The other thing is that through when my family can be able to eat today not only me, but also my family and also the life that I'm living today. At times I go back to the village when I'm going to maybe to visit parents and my eyes watches over my colleagues how they are living today and sometimes I even break in tears. I cry a lot because I know exactly what I could be if it were not for Wayne. Wayne, you have saved me from that torture of life and today I am a principal. I really appreciate you. Words alone cannot be able to tell you what exactly I feel from my heart. just to tell you I really really really appreciate you and I appreciate your family. I have your pictures. It's not that it ended on that day when I was a student. It's not like that. I have your pictures even in my place of work. When the children go to parade and be able to say a word of prayer to their sponsors, I also take mine and I tell them these are mine. This Ken Peel: Ha ha ha. Amos Nalianya Masinde: is Wayne. Yeah, I tell them, I also have my parents. I have these ones from the United States. You have your sponsors, I have my sponsors. Ken Peel: Ha ha ha. Amos Nalianya Masinde: So, everybody's saying a prayer to their sponsor, I'm also going to say a prayer to mine. And that is so wonderful and I will Ken Peel: Yeah. Amos Nalianya Masinde: continue doing that because you are just part of me. My family, I married, but one of the things I told my wife. Is that don't see me as Amos I came from far and I was not taken to school by my parents I have this you can be able to see what I have these are mine as we pray These are the people you need to say a prayer to because they saved me from the tortures of life They are may I tell them I tell her sometime I could have been shoot by trying maybe to find a way of getting food But because of this, it's when you can be able to see me as a well-groomed man, as a man who can be able to speak, and as someone who can be able to go to church and just live good life. Ken Peel: Yeah. Amos Nalianya Masinde: Thank you so much, Wayne. God bless you. Ken Peel: Yeah. Well, and not only did he change your life, like I said earlier, Amos, he're you're changing other people's lives as well because of that Amos Nalianya Masinde: Yes. Ken Peel: sponsorship for the kingdom of God, which is what really matters. And so thank you for that testimony. Wayne, I'm gonna give you an opportunity to to say to Amos what it's been like to be his dad from the United States. What would you say? Wayne: Amos thank you for sharing your appreciation and and I would also have to admit that to God be all the glory because we were drawn to choose you. We I mean really God had it in his plan that we would come and visit and we would choose you. So to to him be the glory, and as I mentioned earlier, there's no way when we chose you and we've made these small investments in your education and everything that that it could yield such a reward. So th thank you. Thank you for that 'cause it it really touches our heart to know that that that God has used that in such a mighty way and He continues to use it through you and your efforts there as the as the head of that school. and that we had no idea when we chose you how difficult your background was. We could tell by looking at you that that there were challenges in your life and maybe Joshua had given us a little background, but but to hear you tell the story really really drives it home how God used us and so we are so significantly blessed to have been invested in your life and I'd I'd want you to know I'm proud to call you my son. Ken Peel: Amen. Amen. Well, I just want everyone that's watching or listening to this podcast to know that for just a a little bit of money, two dollars a day, you could sponsor a child and change the life of a child. And that two dollars a day also helps support the teachers as well. when you do that child sponsorship. It's around sixty dollars a month. That includes the ten dollars for the teachers. but you're changing lives. You're changing lives for them physically and emotionally where they're at, but for eternity because the gospel is preached, the gospel is taught, and they are taught to to know where this comes from. It comes from people here that are physical now, but ultimately it comes from the Lord, Pastor Joshua Ngao: Amen. Ken Peel: who is using these people to to touch lives. And so If you want to find out more about either child sponsorship or even if that's not something that God's calling you to, there's other ways to get involved in the ministry as well. They dig water wells, they start churches, they do all kinds of other things as well. And so if you just want to be a general sponsor in the ministry, you can do that as well. And you can find out more about that at the website, f om ministries.org. or you can also of course sponsor a water well if that's something that interests you. There's many ways to get involved, but today you can see the story of how lives were changed because a family chose this young boy and now before you sits a man who is changing other people's lives, and after that who knows how many lives will be changed because of the ripple effect of that sponsorship that has happened so many years ago. Well, Joshua Amos and Wayne, thank you so much. it's encouraged my heart to see your story and to hear Pastor Joshua Ngao: Amen. Ken Peel: the testimonies of how being generous can change lives. Sorry, but it's just it's amazing, and I just praise God for this opportunity. So this is Kenya Chronicles. Please tell others about this ministry. Please tell others about this podcast. Like Joshua said, at the top of the website, FOM Ministries.org. You can click on the link to go to Kenya Chronicles and watch the other episodes and future ones. and of course, like and follow us as well to get more of these stories as they go forward. Next time on Kenya Chronicles, we're going to be introduced to another family that has made a commitment to this ministry over the years that I actually got to go to Kenya with many years ago. And I'm looking forward to telling their story coming up in the next episode of Kenya Chronicles. And we hope that you'll join us. Thank you everybody for being here.