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Woody Jarrett of BEYER Entertainment Says Las Vegas Music Is Changing | 345 · Hey BigHead: The Vegas Local Podcast

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_03: You win some, you lose some, Julie.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_03: Here we are.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_03: New episode of Big Head.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_03: I'm pretty excited for it today because there are two things, there are many things I love talking about, but two things especially is music and business.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_03: And today we have a little combination of both of those.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_03: Woody Jarrett, CEO of Buyer Entertainment, is with us today.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_03: Woody, thank you so much for being here and welcome to the show, sir.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for having me.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, of course.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_03: For the few people in Las Vegas that may not be familiar with what buyer entertainment is, do you mind kind of just giving them a quick rundown of what this whole thing is about?
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Buyer Entertainment is a full-service talent and events company.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: We do lounges, casinos, restaurants in and outside of Las Vegas.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: Steve Beyer Productions was the original company founded in 1994 by Steve Beyer and Kathleen Beyer.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: And in 2018, he sold the company to his employees in the form of an ESOP, which is an employee stock ownership plan.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: And so now we're almost all entertainers.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_01: So we're basically an entertainer-owned and operated company and booking musicians in uh restaurants, lounges, and casinos.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_01: And so you're you're a young dude.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like how did you get to the CEO?
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_01: How how young do you think I am?
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_01: 30s, mid-30s.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: 49.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: Are you really?
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_01: I turned 50 in December.
• 1:31
  unknown: Get out of here.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_01: There's no way.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: You moisturize?
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm assuming you have a good skincare routine.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: I have done a lot of drugs.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: I don't.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: If the kids at home are wondering what keeps you.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm I'm not giving advice here.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: You drink a lot of water?
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: Right now I eat really healthy.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't drink alcohol.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: Good for you, though.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: 49.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_02: Fine.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_02: Jesus Christ.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_03: Now I'm all self-conscious.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_03: We're talking about anxiety.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_03: Now I I got the anxiety now.
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  SPEAKER_03: No, you look great, man.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_03: You look great.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_03: Well, congratulations on uh the the 49 almost 50.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_03: Well done.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um all right.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_03: So then how long have you been CEO of Bayer then?
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um technically I've been CEO of Bayer since 2020, I believe is when it happened.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: 2021.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: COVID hit.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: It was a train wreck.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh we were in the middle of this purchase with Steve, and he was kind of like, you know, it's time to move on.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: And so I've slowly taken the reins, uh, but really this year is the first year that I'd be comfortable saying that I'm really operating the company.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so we've made some big changes, including this big music festival that I've just thrown together.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: But we'll get to that, I suppose.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_03: Honestly, I I don't mind getting to it right now because this music festival is I love music festivals.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_03: When uh Life is Beautiful was here, I I was in love with it.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_03: Neon, uh the Neon Festival, what it what's it called?
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_03: The one down on Fremont.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_03: I forgot what it's called.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Neon City or something.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_03: Julie, do you remember the you don't know, nobody knows.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, Fremont has this music festival each year, too, that's kind of filling in that void of what Life is Beautiful used to be.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but you have a festival now coming up as well.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_03: Can you share a little bit about that?
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I will even tell the brief origin story of how this all came to be.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, we want the we love the origin stories.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_01: I got my original band back together to play a show at the Sandollar, and nothing against the Sand Dollar, I think it's great.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um but uh I ended up judging a Battle of the Bands later that week at the space, and I was like, you know, production would really be an awesome thing to put together with original music.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh then I decided why not just do multiple stages?
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: Because the thing that kills the entertainment and you know for original shows is the turnover time.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: People see a band they haven't seen before, and then they have to wait for another band they haven't seen before.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: The idea here is that there's three stages very close together.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you're familiar with Palms Casino.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but Chaos Nightclub is like state-of-the-art, probably the best in the city in terms of you know the audio video package that they have there.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um the pool stage is right out the door.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um but these guys are super pros, they're great at keeping the sound in their own environments.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: And then there's Green Street Kitchen, which was a restaurant concept that is now closed.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's also going to be a stage.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: And it's also just right across, so it's a nice little triangle.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the idea is it's 20 bands, 20 minutes each, three stages, 15-minute turnovers.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_01: So during the 15-minute turnovers, people will gravitate from one stage to the next.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we've got three hosts: Chris Phillips from Zoe Bowie, um, Sean Eiferman, who hosts the local Shag Room Open Mike Night, which is out of this world, and my fiance, Asha.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: She goes by Asha DeCanta as her stage name.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_01: Shout out Asha.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_01: Asha, and she is a jujitsu expert and a wonderful opera singer, and she's awesome, but she's also a great host, so she's going to be hosting one of the stages.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_01: What's this festival called again?
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's called Frenzy Fest LV.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_03: Frenzy Fest LV.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and the LV is important because there is a Frenzy Fest, you know, elsewhere.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: This name is appropriate because we're putting it together so fast.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know for anybody who's planned a festival out there, try doing something in two months or less.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_01: It is tricky.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_03: Deal with vendors, do you have to get permits too and all that stuff?
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: No, uh, Palms handles all that.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: And luckily, they've been great partners in this.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, their marketing team is doing all the on-site digital signage.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to do guerrilla campaigns down at uh First Friday and Container Park and all these other places.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_01: But the idea is really to get bands from all over the community.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: So we've got some RB bands from the industry underground community.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: We've got some Fremont bands, we got bands that, you know, from the strip, like some of the click places.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_03: So they're local bands.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: They're all local bands, all local, all original, and really all hungry to do this.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, these are all people I've talked to personally that are like, thank you so much for doing this thing, you know?
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_03: It it really is, because it it's so hard to in this day and age, because there's so many outlets and so many ways to get recognized, to get out there, that it's almost it almost feels like it's oversaturated.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_03: It's almost cluttered.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_03: It's hard to differentiate yourself when everybody's posting the same thing on social media or they're, you know, hopefully getting lucky on you know some viral trend that maybe their song is attached to.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: You were saying getting lucky.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: I thought you were going with Tinder or something else.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_03: But yes, yes.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_03: Getting lucky, matching on Tinder and Bumble, yes, of course.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_03: But finding a way to get out there in front of people in a different, unique way, I think, is is harder now than ever.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_03: Which is also what we try to do here on our show, is you know, we kind of we've had six, I think, musicians come in so far.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I've been able to kind of, you know, showcase their talent.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_03: And whenever there's an opportunity, like a festival coming up, to get on stage when in a situation where you know you maybe not have an opportunity to get in front of this many people.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's great.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm all for it.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_03: That's awesome.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's great, and um it's an experiment, but I think it's gonna work.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because I think it's something people want.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know if you've done any AI music making.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_03: I I've dabbled in it uh just uh out of just finding jingles to use for the show.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I I but it's it's sensitive.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_03: I I feel bad for even using it now, because I feel bad to invite musicians on and then you know dabble in it.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_03: So I've kind of distanced myself a little bit away from it.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_03: But what are your thoughts on it?
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: I've come to the point now, and I get a lot of hate in some communities for this, where I've really embraced AI, and not because of how I feel about it, but because of the inevitability of it.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I actually think it's a good thing.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: I've come to the point where what I think is gonna happen is everybody's gonna see AI videos of bands, and everybody's gonna be oversaturated, as you said, with a million Instagram accounts that don't exist and a million videos that don't exist, and they're gonna crave in-person action.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_01: They're gonna crave going out and watching live bands.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think people are gonna take up sports in a way that they haven't before.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, this is something I've been saying a lot lately is that the airplane has been able to fly itself for 20 years and people still want to learn how to fly a plane.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know, Conway at my office just got his pilot's license, and so that's interesting.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting way of putting that.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_03: And that's, you know, I I'm glad I like hearing the arguments for it, because I agree the in-person is going to be craved more so than ever.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I like hearing both sides of the story when it comes to anything related to AI.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm not necessarily arguing for it.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm recognizing the inevitability of it.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm saying that you have to embrace it and hope for the best.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: Unless you want to just uh dedicate your time to picketing outside AI data centers, you really have nothing else to do but know that it's coming.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um but for original acts, I think this is especially great because how many times can we hear Don't Stop Believin the same way?
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, not that it's not a great song, but it's like, you know, there's something about original music in person, and there's things that can never be done by AI, which is, you know, a person freestyling.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: Are you familiar with Harry Mack?
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever seen him?
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I see he's on my algorithm now.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: Good luck making a robot do that and have it be fun to watch, like Harry Mack.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: How does he do that?
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um I think he studies a lot of words.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: I think he's a well, I know he's a drummer, he's a jazz drummer.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: So he's got great rhythmic sensibility.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: And then he just puts it together.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I like to freestyle.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think I want to do it right now, but uh that's it's it's a good thing you said that because that was gonna be my follow-up question.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_03: We'll save that for the Fancy Fast LV.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_03: We'll see.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_03: Or maybe at the end of the show.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_03: Live a little.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_03: We'll see.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, who knows?
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_03: We'll see.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um You mentioned you have a little bit of a music background.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_03: Can you kind of elaborate more on that?
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um my uh background is I played saxophone back in elementary and middle school up to college.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: I decided that it wasn't that cool for some reason.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: I think I got kind of jaded when I got to college and uh became a music minor, but I took up guitar and singing as just a way to, you know, pretty much like get girls to like me in college, you know, or have other guys think I was cool.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um and uh I kind of pursued that sort of musical journey.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: And all then I got in a local band that was kind of cool, and all I wanted to be was a rock star through my whole 20s, you know.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_01: But in the meantime, I got these little side jobs.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I got an internship, I started working for Virgin Records as a college marketing representative.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: I uh let's see, I started working as a runner and like a showrunner.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like I got the laundry for all these bands like Limp Biscuit and uh you know, did the Lilith Fair and I took a sip out of James Hetzfield's Hetfield's beer one time, um, which that's a dark secret of mine.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: Shout out, James.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_03: We love you, Italian.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the sphere.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um but no, it was a lot of you know, like seeing how things work behind the scenes.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: I was a you know, a stage hand, a runner, roadie, whatever, all those kind of things.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: Then I got a job with Yamaha.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, um, and that was kind of the main thing that I did corporately.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: I started as a trainer merchandiser, then I became a district sales manager, and then I ended up as the national account manager selling to Guitar Center and Amazon or whatever.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: And I still never gave up this dream of wanting to be a rock star, you know, until uh Zoe Bowie, you know Zoe Bowie?
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: I famously tell this story all the time.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: In my original band, um, we weren't making any money, obviously.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: And he was playing in the coolest nightclub down in Scottsdale, uh Barcelona nightclub.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: The Fertitas, who own Station Casinos, came down and recruited him to come up and play.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and that's when they opened Red Rock Resort with Zoe Bowie on all the billboards.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: And Zoe borrowed, or I'll say, took my band members to be in his band.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: So I was stuck there in Arizona um without the band members.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: I love Chris, by the way, and he's one of the hosts of the Frenzy Fest.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, wonderful guy.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: But um he took my band members and gave them actual paying jobs.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: And so then uh I was stuck there, like, well, what am I gonna do now?
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: And one of the thoughts was, oh, that nightclub that Zoe Bowie played at is now available.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: So before they left, I went in and snuck in and I actually wrote down their set list and I took notes about what Zoe Bowie was doing, and I put together a cover band.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: Steve Byer's daughter went to Arizona State, and she saw the band and said, Steve, you gotta come check them out.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: Then the station's casino people came down again, saw our band, and signed us, and that's how I moved to Las Vegas.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_03: Now I see how you became CEO at mid-40s.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_03: You were you you've busy you have a business mindset, but also you're hungry, and you're still hungry.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_03: And I I I see that now.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: I love that story.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's pretty cool.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_03: What kind of cover music were you performing?
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_03: Was it a specific person or band you're you're covering, or is it just kind of a wide variety?
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um well, no, I the band that we put together was a dance band variety band.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: My original band was like uh I always say it's like Sublime or like U2 meets the police.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: You you still do you still remind Chris that he stole your every time I talk to him.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: Every time I bring him up in public, shout out Chris.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for stealing my band.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: It was the best thing that ever happened to me.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_03: Little did you know is the best thing that ever happened to me.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I I I really love him.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: He's a genuinely awesome person.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, great host, great guy.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: He is the is he the lead of Zoe Bowie?
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: He's the lead of Zoe Bowie.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: He's also a marketing genius.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's uh he's quite a quite a guy.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: Have you seen David Bowie in concert back in the day?
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: I never saw David Bowie, no.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: That's too bad.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_03: Who have you seen?
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_03: What's probably the biggest the biggest band that you've seen growing up?
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've seen everybody here.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_01: And not to say it like that, but working all these concerts.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I mean at Yamaha, we like our corporate parties, we would have Nathan East as the uh music director, and just uh there was one night they rented out a Coliseum and it was a tribute to Elton John.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: It was like John Mayer and uh Nora Jones and Ray Charles was still alive, and they all played Elton John songs all night, and then Elton went up at the end, Michael McDonald, you know.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_03: That's incredible.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_03: Is there anybody that you haven't seen that you wish, whether you're alive or dead?
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: If I could get in the time machine and see Led Zeppelin, I would love to do that.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um I missed Pink Floyd in high school, which kind of sucks.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: And then there's some groups today that you know I I think I'm less of a concert goer now, other than I love to go to EDC every year.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: I just just do you really?
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: You dress up?
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_03: Do you?
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_03: Like what'd you wear?
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_03: Fishnet shirt?
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I imagine fishnet top and you know very flashy pants, maybe some sunglasses on.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean I can show you the pictures if you want.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: Or like I said, my fiance's Instagram page has my whole catalog of dumb outfits that I've worn.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: Good.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_03: Did you win over your fiance by playing music for her?
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: I won over my fiance by being a nice guy.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: Well said.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well said.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_03: Have you have you played music for her?
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, good.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she's um she's a world-class opera singer, so she's actually my vocal coach.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she's um she's quite incredible.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: What are you what are some warm-up tips that you do for your vocals before you sing?
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um a lot of the lip trills and things like that, you know.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: But I I don't really want to do it now because she's gonna judge this, she's gonna listen back and say, that's not a great warm-up, but um, you're making me look bad, is what she's gonna say.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, opera singers use their whole body to produce the sound.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, pop conventional singers were kind of up here and and a little more here.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but that's why they can project like that.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: And it's another AI proof thing, another Harry Mack thing is like an opera singer in this room right now cannot be duplicated.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_03: That's a good point.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_03: That's a very good point.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_03: And I think I think being able to emulate or even compare that from AI to the real thing is is is gonna be harder and harder, like you said.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_03: That's interesting.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_03: What um so you work with a lot, you obviously have a lot of local talent alongside or working with buyer.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_03: What are some things you look for when you're looking for new talent that's coming up in Vegas?
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_03: What do you and your team kind of keep an eye out on and saying, okay, they have potential to you know be something, let's see if we can work together with them.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: We are looking from a client-focused perspective when we look for entertainers.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: So we actually send a representative out to judge the Shag Room open mic night, and there's some great people there, but not every one of them is right for the jobs that we're booking for.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: So if you've got a fine dining concept and you want like a piano player or something, we we look at what you want.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: What do you want as a vibe in that room, and then we match that to the performer.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: So, in a lot of ways, it's sort of adaptability.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, obviously, raw talent helps.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: And then the wild card for keeping the gig is professionalism.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know, somebody that's actually gonna show up on time, which is early, uh, somebody that's gonna learn the required material, somebody that's gonna treat people nicely when they show up and not make a big mess.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, there's a lot you can do wrong, and the things that you can do right seem to be easy to most people, and they're not easy to every performer.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_03: Well said.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_03: I I know, I know, uh I mean, especially being involved in this and you know, kind of networking more and more with local musicians.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_03: I I see as a just a somebody who I I I don't have the ear for it.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I I know when somebody's good because I enjoy listening to them.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_03: But there are a few people that still really stand out to me of being like, wow, they if if if they blew up, I wouldn't be surprised.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_03: But there's one or two people that come to mind immediately where they just they they don't have the follow through or they they're just not as professional.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: And I feel like they're you know, again, this is just me talking as a fan, but their window is gonna close before they know it, and they're not gonna, you know, get the opportunities they should because they're you know they they're not reliable or they don't follow through or something like that.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_03: And it's so frustrating to see that.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: I actually the whole thing about the window, I will push back on that a little bit.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: I actually think in the AI in-person world that I'm envisioning, I think people are actually going to really like people with wisdom, not just talent.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Because we've got a whole catalog of music in our heads from yesterday to today, as long as we keep listening to new things.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, you mention exceptional talents, and I know you had Leah Capelli on this show.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: Mojo Juju, yes.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: We auditioned her when she was 17 years old in Arizona for a restaurant, and she didn't get the job back then.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and she was exceptionally talented, but wasn't really a fit for what was going on there.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I've tried to work with her, you know, kind of my whole life until then I saw her show up in Las Vegas.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and she's gonna be doing the Frenzy Fest, which is so exciting to me because she is a she is a killer talent.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_03: She really is.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_03: She is such a sweetheart, she's so talented at what she does.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, I mean, I I I was so excited when she came on our show.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and honestly, I still listen to the performances that they that they did because it was so good.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: And actually, putting on this event, I've seen how many connections there are between people that I'm speaking with.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: Have you?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_03: Why'd you choose Palms?
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, well, I tried to choose another property first, which I will not name.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I luckily didn't get my phone call returned over and over and over again.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: Once this person expressed an interest in it, it's like, can I bring a bunch of people to your property and you don't have to do anything?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um and Palms actually engaged with us to do their G2E conference, okay, some decor and other activations.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I walked the property and I was like, this is the spot.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_01: This is definitely the spot.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: And they were nice enough to give us a shot.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: Have you been to Vegas Unstripped?
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: That's a foodie festival they have that goes on at Palms too.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: No, I haven't.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_03: It's a really good setup.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_03: It's out in the outdoor area around the pool and you know, up up top, and you know, it basically every cabana has uh a local restaurant serving some dish that's not on their menu normally.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's a great festival.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_03: Definitely check it out.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was in was it October, Julie?
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_03: Or it was sometime, I don't remember.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_03: Sometime around the winterish.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um March.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was way off.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was way off.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: But anyways, definitely check it out.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_03: And it's it's a great place to Palms is uh you know a great spot for because it's just it's it's got everything you need.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's spacious, like you said, and that's great.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, totally.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um so that's a that's a good point uh you brought up about the uh choosing the right entertainer for the right, I guess, scenario or setting.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_03: When it comes to when it comes to try somebody uh interested in your role of you know getting to where you are, what advice would you give them if they're just starting off like I don't know, like they're working for where you were at Virgin doing, you know, being a runner or something like that?
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you want to follow in my steps, uh footsteps, yes, I it's just I actually don't uh advise that.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: I think um having a passion for business and for other people, but really being flexible and forward thinking, because the world is about to change.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it is about to change for songwriters, it's about to change for artists, for actors.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like it's changed already.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, it's it's definitely already changed.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: I mean it's but I think that we're about to see an explosion in live entertainment uh really on a next level.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: I think um and I don't just mean music, I mean everything.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, especially the more real and the more live it can be, the more interesting it's gonna be, and the more people are gonna want that human connection.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: I do think half of the population is gonna just put on their virtual reality headgear and just start, you know, playing cards with the their buddies' avatar all day long and uh, you know, swapping tokens for experiences.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: But I think a lot of other people are going to want to learn to play basketball because they never never got the ch the chance to, you know, or I I can't even think of all the things people want to might want to do because probably some things that don't even exist yet because we haven't had the time to do them.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: And all those things will have new markets and new business opportunities, you know.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I think there's a lot of opportunity in our space.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_03: Do you feel like because of that, because there's so much opportunity, do you feel like it's harder to impress audiences today than it's ever been?
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's harder because people keep trying to do the same thing.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: Hence the don't stop believing 99 times a day, you know, in the lounges with the same exact, I mean, oftentimes in the same key.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: So it's just, oh, I just watched this.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: Now, if you're on your sixth beer and you're with your company and it's yeah, don't stop believing and everybody sings it, you know, it's great and it creates an experience, but that can't be the only experience.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, when you see Mojo Juju sitting here on the couch doing what they do, if that was just sitting in the middle of a room somewhere, not produced like where they play, but that would also be a thing people would want to see.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh do you feel where in your opinion, when it comes to the talent that you have, uh what does success look like for you?
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_03: Like a successful event or a successful whatever it is that that you're you're you know, focused on that night.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: What does success look like for you when you go home at night?
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh equal satisfaction by the customer and the artist.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we want the people that perform the gig to walk away saying, That was a great time.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: I had a great time with friends, I loved making the music.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: And we want our customers to say, we want to have that again next year, we love what just happened.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um so dual satisfaction is the ultimate goal.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_03: Are you just in Vegas?
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: Are you guys just based in Vegas?
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: No, we're we're nationwide, and um actually did do one activation in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: How did that go?
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: It was crazy.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um women had just been given the right to drive.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: So it was a very interesting and very different landscape to be going into a restaurant where, okay, technically we're not going to enforce all these traditional customs, but then there's all these traditional people saying, you know, put on your traditional gear and yeah, it's uh it was it was wild.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_03: When the difference between when it was it Steve that when Steve started the company in compared to where it is today, at least just in Vegas.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_03: What kind of what difference have you seen from then till till now in terms of the the the music landscape of in Las Vegas?
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: When Steve started the company, there were no cell phones.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there were a couple cell phones, but they looked like bricks and nobody wanted to carry them around.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um Steve was a musical director or an entertainment director here in town.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: He was a local columnist like Johnny Katz.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um he he's been in town since Sinatra.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: So if you had a casino and you wanted to book an entertainer, you'd call Steve Bayer because he was the guy that knew everybody.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: And if you don't have a cell phone and you don't have the internet, you call Steve's pager and he makes sure that a Frank Sinatra guy will come to your party, right?
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I think over time people used that model and kind of started using the tools that came to be, like the internet.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: And so now an artist can put up a website of themselves and a booking agent can still be a gatekeeper for a facility and add no value.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what we're really trying to do with our company is add value, help our customers come up with great entertainment options, and make it so that everybody can just do their job.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_03: Well said.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_03: You guys are in uh you work with uh the new Vanderpump Hotel too, right?
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_03: How'd you get how'd you get hooked up there?
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we've we've been around.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: You've been around?
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we've been around.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: So we we have a lot of connections in town and we have a lot of customers, a lot of great customers.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: And um, yeah, we look forward to having more.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_03: Well said.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_03: Are you uh you you you mentioned Metallica and the sphere.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_03: Have you been to the sphere yet?
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: I have been to the sphere.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: Who'd you see?
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: I saw Anima, or everybody pronounces it differently.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going with Anima.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go with that.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_03: I I know who you're talking about.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that's all that matters.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: Phenomenal, amazing show.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: I saw Dead and Company with John Mayer.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_03: Love that.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I saw Tomorrowland.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm a big sphere fan.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's yeah, I think that's also another thing that's going to be huge in the future is like we could be in a room this size or a restaurant, and they're gonna have LED panels and immersive experiences while you're eating your shrimp cocktail.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_03: It's all about the immersion, absolutely experience on top of whatever it is that you're doing.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_03: 100%.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_03: Do you feel Metallica hasn't hasn't started yet, right?
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_03: Or have they?
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um good luck getting tickets for that.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's impossible.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_03: I I I'm not even gonna try to get tickets.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_03: As much as I would love to, there's no way that I'd be able to afford it or be comfortable buying and paying whatever amount of those tickets are gonna be, but I'm sure it's gonna be amazing.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like I said, I worked a Metallica concert when I was younger, and I I was never a fanboy, you know.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: I was like I saw so many artists come in and out, but with James Hetfield, he came in and he had a conversation with I I forget, I think it was his tour manager.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: And it was just me, James, and the tour manager in the room.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: I was probably 22 years old or something at the time, maybe 23.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: And James was drinking a Heineken and he just left it there.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: And he left the room, and I was like, dude.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: I have to.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_03: You have to.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I was also in a room with uh Snoop Dogg, a big weed fest.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I've I've seen like a bunch of crazy things doing the job that I did.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_03: What's what's one of the crazy things that you can share that you want to share on this show?
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_01: I will share that Snoop Dogg story because it's a little deeper than this.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_01: Let's hear it.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna name other names.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: So if yeah, if anybody wants to do their research, maybe they'll find things out.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: But it was a big hip hop festival in Arizona, and I was sent as a runner to go pick some of these artists up from the airport, and I got in the car and we pulled up to the venue, and they noticed that there was a metal detector there.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: And they were like, Uh-oh.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: They all stopped pulling out their guns and putting them under the seat, and I was like, uh.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I go inside later that night, and they they said, Hey, Woody, we need you to go pick up Casey and Jojo.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Oh, awesome.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a big Casey and Jojo fan, you know, I love them.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I start heading out to the van and somebody grabs me on the shoulder.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, You're not going anywhere.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: Pulls me into the room, and it's Snoop Dogg, Anthony Hardaway, uh, Warren G, all these people, and Snoop's doing a video about smoking weed across the country.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, I know every motherfucker.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: Are we cut we cuss on here?
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I know every motherfucker in here.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: He's all young my family.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: And he's got the joint and he's passing it around.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like, Who's that motherfucker?
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, he's cool, he's with us.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I did not smoke weed with Snoop Dogg, which you could have that would have a little for generations and generations.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: Another one, Wes Borland from Limp Biscuit, one time, they asked me to pick him up at the airport, and I was in my little truck, yeah, my little Chevy S10.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_01: Pull up to the airport, it's Wes and his girlfriend and their security guard.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh shit.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_01: So Wes and his girlfriend get into the car, the security guard gets in the back.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's Phoenix in August, so it's like 115 degrees.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: You mean like in the bed of the truck?
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: In the bed of the truck.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: And Wes's girlfriend said, I want to go to a shopping mall or something.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, okay.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: I start going the wrong direction on the freeway.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: We get into traffic, and then Wes is like, can you turn the AC up?
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, it's up all the way.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh got stuck in traffic with West Borland, 115 degrees outside, no air conditioning.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: Brutal.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: I went back and just got absolutely blasted by the management team.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: They were like, Why did you?
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, You sent me to get them.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: Could have given me the van, but yeah, I got a bunch of stories like that.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_03: What's the worst part about being a runner?
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_03: Because a runner is basically you just go and get people, you just do the dirty work of you know whatever it is that needs to be done, right?
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_03: What's the worst part about being a runner?
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: The first thing you do every day pretty much is get laundry.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: So you take the bag of laundry, which you know, it's a big smelly bag of laundry.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you you get the dirty laundry.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: You grab the dirty laundry and then you take it to the dry cleaner and then it gets cleaned and then you bring it back.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: But really, the experiences are so great.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like what I got to put in my mind after doing that for a while is just give me your laundry.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_01: Come on, Fred Durst, give me that dirty sack of laundry.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_03: Give me all those red hats of yours.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_03: Did it change being so involved and so close and seeing the behind-the-scenes magic of concerts, did it change the way you enjoy concerts, or are you still able to enjoy it as a fan?
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it changed it a lot.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_01: For a while, I I got kind of jaded and I didn't like concerts because I was just like, I watched so many from backstage and I was always had all access everywhere, and it felt like a job.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: And when you're a runner, you get there at like eight in the morning, you work all day, the show goes away, and then you keep working.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: One time at a Lincoln Park show, I was there for 24 hours.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_01: Just sitting around.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of times you're waiting for the last bus driver to go back or something.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, all the rock stars are gone, all the parties over.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_03: He was doing the bitch work.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_01: So then, you know, people are like, You want to go to the whatever concert?
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, Nope, I sure don't.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_03: Is there a uh a concert that you saw that surprised you of how much you enjoy them?
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_03: Like maybe you don't like their music, but you enjoyed watching them live?
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think my headspace wasn't great back then.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um but the good thing also, too, I became really good buddies with the venue manager who's now um out on tour with I think uh Machine Gun Kelly.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um really wonderful guy, and he let my band open up for the Chili Peppers.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_01: So that was like a wow, another really great thing.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was side stage on the way, but it was still a big side stage and on the way in, and you know, that was like a moment that stuck with me.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: You don't have to include those details in the story movie.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: I know, but I just want a full disclaimer, I don't want to sound like I'm uh half the time we get these things from musicians that are like shared the stage with such and such, and it's you know, if you look back, it isn't really like the opening act.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's just this show is literally called Big Head.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_03: We we all have giant egotistical heads here, so it's okay if you tell a story that maybe not be the full picture, but you know, you're not gonna be.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well then I smoked that blunt with Snoop Dogg, just so you know.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_01: And Willie Nelson was there too.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_01: And Willie Nelson was there, he asked for it after me.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_03: Willie Nelson said, I don't know how you do this, this is too strong for me.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um Well, that's fucking awesome.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: Honestly, it's it it sounds like the type of job being a runner that the good parts are so good that looking back on it, you you miss those moments, but you don't miss the the bitch moments.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_03: Like, but for me, I was a bus boy in a restaurant, and I miss having such a little responsibility as a bus boy.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_03: I miss all the fun and you know, fucking around I during the shifts, but looking back on it, like I don't miss dealing with all the dirty dishes and washing the dishes and you know staying up late and all that stuff.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_03: I don't miss that part.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_03: But the good parts I miss, and I feel like that's the same thing with you with the with the runner situation.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean I miss running more than I miss working at McDonald's.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_03: You got more stories, you got better stories to tell, I'm sure.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean I got a couple stories from McDonald's, but they don't involve Snoop Dogg.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_01: Do you would you still eat at McDonald's?
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: I don't eat McDonald's, no.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I would, like if I was on a road trip together and it was like this is the only thing to eat, I would eat McDonald's.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: But no, I mean I have a crazy diet.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: I just I eat whole plain yogurt in the morning with Brazil nuts, and then I have six eggs with avocado, and just I try, I'm trying to keep this train alive.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you're trying to keep the looking mid-30s alive.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_03: I get that.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_03: Good for you.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just trying to stay alive for my fiance.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: She's amazing, and she deserves me to stay alive as long as I can.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: She's a lucky woman.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_03: She's a lucky woman.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a lucky guy.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_03: You're a lucky guy too.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_03: But you're both just very lucky people.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um, one more time, I want to talk about Frenzy Fest before we get out of here.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_03: Can you share some of the musicians that are performing at Frenzy Fest LV?
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I should also mention one of the most important things about this is it's benefiting positively arts.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, my good friend Palita Simpson has been running this organization for 15 years now.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it benefits children who are in the arts, and it also helps them with mental health.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, so it's the intersection of the arts and mental health, and we're raising money for her organization, Positively Arts.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_01: I've recently been asked to be a board member.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm non-paid, so it's not a conflict of interest.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: I do it as a volunteer because I really love what she's doing over there.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um so I'm thinking of some acts that I can say because we haven't announced the full lineup yet, but I will say Mojo Juju, obviously.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: Love it.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um Brie Forsberg is in the Far Worst, which is a really amazing band, the Far Worst.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_01: The connection there is that Brie was actually a positively art student.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_01: I think I met her when she was nine years old.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: No way.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, now she's this rocker, she's amazing on stage.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she's gonna be one of the acts.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um we have Fletch from the Raiders House band and everywhere else around town.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um we have Justin Carter also how many how many performers are you gonna have?
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_01: Twenty bands.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_01: Twenty bands.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_01: Twenty bands, yes.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: Twenty bands, three stages, and it's just for one night or one?
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_01: One night for four hours.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 20 minute sets.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_01: So the idea is just fast and furious.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna get everybody in for sound checks early.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna be uh flying by the seat of our pants.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm performing too.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: That was yeah, and I one caveat for putting this thing on was I wanted to perform my original music, so it's gonna be my band from when I was in my twenties.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_01: What's your band's name?
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: Poe Magic.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_01: Poe Magic.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_01: Poe Magic.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_01: What's the what's the meaning behind that?
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think there was a meaning.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, the name was like I thought Pink Floyd was cool because it's two words that didn't really mean anything until you got it together, then the music defines what the name means.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so that's kind of the Poe Magic essence.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: But we were telling people we're so Poe, we magic because we were poor as shit back then.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_01: And um yeah, and we thought that we made some magic on stage.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_03: I love that.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_03: So Poe Magic, Mojo Juju, that's two out of the 20 bands performing, along with a few of the other names you mentioned.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_03: I'm excited.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_03: And what what what are the dates for this?
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_01: This is August 24th at Palms Casino.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's 6 p.m.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: is the doors.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's free.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_01: Free parking.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Palms.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Palms.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: Shout out Palms.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um Palms loves their locals.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_01: That Palms loves their locals.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: I am a big Palms supporter, and they've been supporting us, so we're really excited about this.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_03: And don't forget to uh text Frenzyfest to 91999 for more information.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_03: Did I get that right?
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, or visit frenzyfestlv.com.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_01: Love that.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's a free festival.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: Free festival.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is it's really uh a charity event that buyer, instead of just writing a check to Positively Arts, we're writing it to Positively Arts and hoping that everybody else can write a check also.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: And with that money, we're putting on this concert, we're giving a bunch to Polita, we're gonna make all these kids happy and make them able to get on stages themselves in 20 years.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean it's really an exciting event.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_03: You're a good dude, Woody Jarrett.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'll tell you.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you, man.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_03: You're a good man.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_03: This is fun.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for coming on, man.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_03: Sharing your your insights, sharing your Snoop Dogg stories and Snoop Dogg.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_03: Snoop Dogg shout out, Snoop Dogg.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_03: I hope I hope you I hope you have Frenzy Fest LV next year, and I hope it turns into a weekend event.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I want.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_03: I would love that.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_03: I would love that too.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_03: Well what can we do to make that happen?
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_01: Spread the word.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, just let everybody know.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's all ages, by the way, too.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um we are gonna have VIP sponsorships available, so for people who don't want to be in the masses, they can get up in the reserved areas.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_03: That sounds like Julie.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_03: Julie doesn't like to be in the GA area.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_03: She's not true.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_03: That's very true.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_01: She's very spoiled.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: And also, these are really beautiful rooms.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: Chaos is beautiful, the pool is beautiful, killer stages.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_01: So it's gonna be an awesome time.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: Frenzy Fest LV.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: We're excited.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: Well, Woody, this was great.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_03: Appreciate you coming on.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna uh we're gonna see you at Frenzy Fest LV.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_03: We'll see you there.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_03: Catch new episodes each week, boys and girls, on Heybighead.com.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_03: Julie, you have any final words before we get out of here?
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_03: No, I'm excited.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_03: He said no, I'm excited.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_03: She has no microphone, so she yelled at it.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_03: We'll see you next week, guys.