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Speaker 1: You're listening to Hawk Talk with former Seahawks wide receiver
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Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus. After ten yard line, second and eight three
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Speaker 1: wide receivers now in motion has Puppas left to right,
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Speaker 1: Julius Jones a single setback Matt pumpfecks looking at the
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Speaker 1: goal line, he throws it into the end zone. Touchdown,
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Speaker 1: Saint Hawks. It's Michael Bumpas with a diving catch in
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Speaker 1: the end zone. Our ten yard touchdown reception for Pumpas,
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Speaker 1: and the kid out of Washington State has found himself
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Speaker 1: a place on this team. Powered by Seahawks dot Com. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: you're listening to Hawk Talk. I am Michael Bumpas along
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Speaker 1: with Nasa Cholby. Week five, the Hawks have a chance
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Speaker 1: to do something they've never done in franchise history, which
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Speaker 1: is to go five and oh. But to do that,
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Speaker 1: they got to get through the vikings. But before we
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Speaker 1: dive into them, let's hit up Nass with the injury updates.
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Speaker 1: Thanks bump Well, there is a lot of good news
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Speaker 1: on the injury front. The Seahawks came out of the
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Speaker 1: game against the Miami Dolphins relatively healthy, with essentially no
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Speaker 1: new injuries. Head coach pet Carroll did, however, give with
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Speaker 1: some much needed updates on Nico Thorpe, Jordan Brooks, Quentin Dunbar,
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Speaker 1: and Jamal Adams. Um, well, let me start Nic. Nico's
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Speaker 1: got he's got the athletic arny kind of symptoms coming
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Speaker 1: right now. We got to see what he needs to
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Speaker 1: get right. He's been working real hard to get back
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Speaker 1: and he just can't get going. Often, when when you
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Speaker 1: have that injury, you know, you feel okay, you don't hurt,
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Speaker 1: but you just can't quite stride and go, and that's
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Speaker 1: kind of where he is. He's worked hard to get
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Speaker 1: to that point, and so now we know, so we
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Speaker 1: gotta try to get him fixed up and whatever we
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Speaker 1: can do. I'm not sure what the course will be,
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Speaker 1: but we're open to everything for him. He asked about
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Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks. Um, Jordan's still he's still working on coming back.
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Speaker 1: He's not able to move around yet, so it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be hard for him to get back this week. Did
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Speaker 1: you mention somebody else too? Quinn's is went through the
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Speaker 1: walk through today. He'll practice tomorrow m and we'll see
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Speaker 1: how that how that fits for him coming back. He's
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Speaker 1: determined to try to get back for this ball game,
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Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens there. Jamal is still going
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Speaker 1: to be another week away. Unfortunately, he's not gonna make
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Speaker 1: a back. There was also some roster movement. It's a
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Speaker 1: Seahawks signed former first team All Pro Damon Snacks Harrison
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Speaker 1: to the Seahawks practice squad. The Seahawks also made an
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Speaker 1: addition to their fifty three man rosters, signing defensive end
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Bullard cornerback Nico Thorpe, who missed the past two
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Speaker 1: games with a hip injury. As you heard from the coach,
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Speaker 1: he was now placed officially on injured reserve. In addition
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Speaker 1: to Harrison, the Seahawks have also signed quarterback DeMarcus Acy
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Speaker 1: as well as linebacker Michael Divinity to the practice squad
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Speaker 1: and lastly, Bump Before we get going, make sure to
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Speaker 1: join us each and every Thursday from noon to two.
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Speaker 1: It's The Huddle, hosted by Tom Jake and Stacy along
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Speaker 1: with Seahawks color analyst Dave Wyman. It's a chance to
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Speaker 1: hear directly from the Seahawks players as they prepare for Sunday.
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Speaker 1: In preview the game ahead with the voice of the Seahawks,
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Speaker 1: Steve Rabel and our guy Ray Roberts Bump. As you mentioned,
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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings are up next. Who's who's next? Who's next?
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you who was next. It's the Minnesota Vikings.
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Speaker 1: They are one in three. They go have losses to
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Speaker 1: the Packers, good football team, the Colts, this decent football team,
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Speaker 1: and the Titans, but they beat Houston last week. Don't
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Speaker 1: let the record fool your folks. I'm looking at this film.
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Speaker 1: These guys can play some football. Offensively. They are ranked
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Speaker 1: twenty second in the NFL rush offense, the ranked fifth.
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Speaker 1: I think that's where they're gonna pose the most challenged well,
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Speaker 1: I can't even say the most pass game is good too.
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Speaker 1: I know they're not a top ten pass team, but
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Speaker 1: they still have Adam Feeling. They still have Justin Jefferson.
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Speaker 1: But Dalvin Cook is a guy who makes this team go,
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Speaker 1: no question about it. What they want to do bombcause
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Speaker 1: they want to run the football. Everything they do is
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Speaker 1: predicated off of running the ball. We'll getting all the
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Speaker 1: key matchups for the Vikings. But that's the thing if
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Speaker 1: you just look at this head to head comparison we're
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Speaker 1: looking at, don't sleep on this team because you say,
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Speaker 1: twenty second offense in the league, pass game twenty eighth,
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Speaker 1: tied for fourteenth. Defensively, they don't look great. They're twenty
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Speaker 1: ninth in total defense, twenty ninth and passive and twenty
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Speaker 1: six and points aloud. I mean they look average. They
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Speaker 1: look average on paper. But let me tell you something.
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Speaker 1: Something they do, like you mentioned, is run the football.
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Speaker 1: They're the fifteam in the league at rushing the ball
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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards per game. But it's because
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Speaker 1: of Dalvin Cook. Dalvin Cook is an incredibly special athlete,
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Speaker 1: special player, incredibly explosive, and he's to keep the game.
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Speaker 1: Everything that he gets done, it sets up their offense.
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Speaker 1: They want to run the ball, sets up all their
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Speaker 1: play acts and stuff. So I know that it'll look
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Speaker 1: great in all the statistical categories. But these guys can
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Speaker 1: play ball, so don't underestimate them. Yeah, well, you know
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Speaker 1: the last one. This is the third year in a
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Speaker 1: row the Hawks are playing the Vikings. Am I correct
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Speaker 1: second or third? And I feel like every time we
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Speaker 1: play these guys, everyone's sleeping on them. And then I
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Speaker 1: turn on the film and I'm like, hold up, wait
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Speaker 1: a minute. Offensively, they have weapons everywhere, even at the
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Speaker 1: tight ends. Spite even though Rudolph isn't having a season
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Speaker 1: that we're used to seeing, even at the quarterback spot,
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Speaker 1: even though Kirk Cousin doesn't win a lot of big games,
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Speaker 1: they still got talent on the defensive side. They got
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Speaker 1: Kendricks to have unique. They have some guys. But let's
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Speaker 1: talk about last week. Last week they beat the Texans.
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Speaker 1: They were up thirty one to sixteen with ten minutes
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Speaker 1: left in the fourth. The Texans closed the gap to
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Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty three and drove seventy one yards
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Speaker 1: down the field, got to the one and couldn't get
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Speaker 1: it done. You know who. That reminds me of nash
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks versus the eight New England Patriots. Same situation.
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Speaker 1: So we're looking at these teams and we're like, okay,
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Speaker 1: they're similar. They're even similar on how they've won a
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Speaker 1: couple of ball games. Well one ball game when it
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Speaker 1: comes to the Vikings. But that last possession Texans down
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Speaker 1: on the one yard line, that was some sloppy football
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Speaker 1: down there. It was tough. Man. They get first seen
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Speaker 1: goal from the one, You think, okay, they're gonna tie
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Speaker 1: this up now, you're thinking, what are they gonna do
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Speaker 1: for their two point conversion? They get stoned on second
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Speaker 1: and goal. Then on third and goal, which probably the
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Speaker 1: biggest play of the game, they run a little option
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Speaker 1: Rounte Watson tries to pitch over to Johnson. Johnson fumbles,
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Speaker 1: the ball get stuck. Now you're the ball's back at
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Speaker 1: the five yard line, and it set up this play
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Speaker 1: a fourth and goal with the game on the line,
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Speaker 1: fourth and goal from the five for Houston. Minnesota leads
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Speaker 1: by h Watson takes the snap, goes on a five
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Speaker 1: step drop to the end zone, and it's caught by
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Speaker 1: Will Fuller on one hand to catch. Are you kidding me? Touchdown? Texans.
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Speaker 1: Will Fuller tap the ball to himself with his left
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Speaker 1: hand and the Texans are a two point conversion from
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Speaker 1: tying the game. Well done, will Fuller. Well they're gonna
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Speaker 1: review all scores. If the runner went to the ground,
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Speaker 1: the ball hit the ground and moved, Thank you for
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Speaker 1: an incomplete path. Thank you, first down Minnesota the five
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Speaker 1: yard line. Ball game. Thirty one twenty three bikes are
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Speaker 1: in the win column. He said, ball game. This is
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Speaker 1: a pull game game. All that has to hurt Heartbreak Hotel.
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson was moving the ball. That was a beautiful
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Speaker 1: last drive. I went back and I looked at him.
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Speaker 1: They were moving the ball, getting it done. David Johnson
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Speaker 1: just looked old right there for some reason that pitch
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Speaker 1: he drops it and then just the aftermath of him
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Speaker 1: sitting there on his knees with his hands, his head
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Speaker 1: in his hands, like I felt bad for David Johnson
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Speaker 1: that play. Yeah, it's tough, man, because David Johnson just
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with the Cardinals was just
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Speaker 1: balling out. Was a guy, he's a pro bowler, He's
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Speaker 1: still got it. That's way spent all that money. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: definitely tough for him to see there. But you look
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Speaker 1: at the Vikings bump Um Kirk Cousins, he didn't do
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Speaker 1: anything or shattering. We're definitely gonna talk a lot more
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Speaker 1: about him. But he was sixteen to twenty two, two
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty yards and the touchdown. It was the
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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook show man, That's what it was. Yep. Dec
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Speaker 1: Twenty seven carres for one hundred and thirty yards and
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Speaker 1: two touchdowns and just guys elusive, you better, you better,
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Speaker 1: gang tackle, you need e Levin has to the fullball
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Speaker 1: with this dude, because he will make guys miss. You
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Speaker 1: cannot forgive him. Adam Delan did his thing with eight
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Speaker 1: receptions for one hundred and fourteen yards one touchdown, and
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Speaker 1: the rookie man. There's a lot of good rookie receivers
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Speaker 1: out there, justin Jefferson, the kid from LSU four receptions,
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Speaker 1: one hundred and three yards. Needless to say, these guys
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Speaker 1: can do it on the ground and they can do
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Speaker 1: it in the air. But let's go back in time
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Speaker 1: and learn a little bit about the Seahawks versus Vikings.
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Speaker 1: Know your history, no your history. So the history between
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the Vikings, it seems like they play
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Speaker 1: each other every year. The Seahawks lead the all time
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Speaker 1: regular season series eleven to five. Their last meeting was
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Speaker 1: last year in primetime under the lights of Monday Night Football,
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Speaker 1: where the Seahawks won thirty seven to thirty thanks to
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Speaker 1: a little nice play from Russell Wilson to Demo swag
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Speaker 1: Penny in the backfield Medcalf far side Wine Russer's got time,
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Speaker 1: He's got David more wide open. I can get fifty
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Speaker 1: ten five touchdown Seahawks from sixty yards. Rush looked up,
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Speaker 1: saw David Moore running right past Savior Roads and said,
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Speaker 1: here you go. Serves it up on a platter, and
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks are on top twenty six to seventeen, and
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Speaker 1: they're doing the hula in the end zone the Seahawks receivers. Wow,
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Speaker 1: what a big play for Seattle. Now, Bump Steve Rays,
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Speaker 1: you know, he is dego. He's the best play by
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Speaker 1: the play announcer in all the land. And you know,
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Speaker 1: when you're up in the booth, you're kind of far
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Speaker 1: away from the field. You know, it's tough to see
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Speaker 1: what's going on sometimes with these celebrations. Now they weren't
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Speaker 1: doing the hula. It was a nice little little tribute
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Speaker 1: to New Addition, you know, because if it isn't love,
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Speaker 1: why do this way? Why does she stayed on my
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Speaker 1: something tells me back in the eighties, Rays wasn't listening
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Speaker 1: on New Edition. You know, you know, you never wasn't
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Speaker 1: listening to New Edition. It was a little something all
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Speaker 1: good though, but bum, tell me listen to this though.
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Speaker 1: So last year the Seahawks were all about the touchdown dances, Bump,
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Speaker 1: they were all about and the receivers were on point. Man,
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Speaker 1: they're not doing them this year. Do you miss him? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I miss him? Of course I do that. I honestly.
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Speaker 1: The first game they got into the endzone, I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 1: here it comes. Because now they have a reputation, they
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Speaker 1: killed the game. I think there was like at ESPN
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Speaker 1: Award to where like the best team dances and the
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Speaker 1: Hawks want it because of the receivers. You know, receivers,
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Speaker 1: we like the spotlight. We're more of the the average
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Speaker 1: size man, so we could move a little bit. I
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Speaker 1: definitely miss them. Why aren't we seeing them now? Well
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Speaker 1: that's another thing. So they did a little research. So
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Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett was miked up against the Cowboys two weeks
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Speaker 1: ago and he had a little conversation with Quandre Dicks,
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Speaker 1: who asked them why they're not doing these coordinated dances anymore.
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Speaker 1: I don't know right now, bro, We've just been trying
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Speaker 1: to put the fear and people makes people, make them
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Speaker 1: lose that confidence. So Quandre still wants to be dancing
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Speaker 1: on them, Tyler, so making them lose their confidence. Here's
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Speaker 1: the deal. I miss them definitely. I think the whole
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Speaker 1: world misses him. But hey, whatever, they're doing. Bump is working.
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Speaker 1: So if they're putting the fear of people by just
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Speaker 1: bossing them up and scoring touchdowns, I'll take that. I
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Speaker 1: ain't mad at that. You know, He's like, hey, no more,
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Speaker 1: no more funny games. It's real out here now. You
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Speaker 1: know we're here. We're here to take life out the defense,
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Speaker 1: which I get, But add insults and injury rands on them?
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Speaker 1: Why why you're taking the soul out of them? But
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Speaker 1: that approach is working. So if it ain't broke, don't
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Speaker 1: fix it. I'm not touching that, Tyler. If y'all want
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Speaker 1: to keep a professional, shake hands, get to the sideline,
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Speaker 1: I'm all about that. So the Seahawks have won five
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Speaker 1: straight in the matchup against the Vikings. Um haven't won
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Speaker 1: the Vikings haven't won the Seattleson's two thousand and six.
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Speaker 1: So let's keep that thing going. Now we've talked about
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Speaker 1: the Vikings, we talked about the Seattle Seahawks. What is
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Speaker 1: going on in the NFC West? Have the Seahawks or
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Speaker 1: the NFC West champs? Again? What's the word in the West?
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Speaker 1: On hot talk? What's the word bump? Well, I'll tell
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Speaker 1: you the word Seahawks four and oh leading NFC West,
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Speaker 1: followed by the Los Angeles Rams at three and one,
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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals at two and two, in the San Francisco
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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers at two and two. So it was
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Speaker 1: definitely a good week in Week four for the Seahawks.
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Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers Cardinals both lose while the Rams improved
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Speaker 1: a three and one. Now bump. We've been talking about
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Speaker 1: the nine Ers every week in this segment, looks like
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Speaker 1: the injury bug finally caught up with them as they
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Speaker 1: dropped a close game to the Eagles in primetime. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they did. Ziggy Ziggy. He was once a Seahawk with
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Speaker 1: high expectations. I feel bad for this man. Gets signed
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Speaker 1: by the forty nine ers, gets Andrew looks like his
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Speaker 1: season is done. I believe it is. Season is done.
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Speaker 1: Jimmy g the quarterback position, He's got a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: Nick Mollins was in the game, was actually playing all
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Speaker 1: right until the fourth quarter. How do you bench? That?
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Speaker 1: Baffles me? You bench your quarterback in the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 1: I get you through a couple of picks, but at
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Speaker 1: that point it's like, all right, let's just ride it out. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's weird to go to the CJ. Bethard, who's been cold,
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Speaker 1: hasn't thrown him pass for three quarters and pop him
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Speaker 1: off the bench. It's not like he threw ten picks.
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Speaker 1: It's not like he was out there turning ball. I
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Speaker 1: mean he was eighteen to twenty six two hundred yards
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Speaker 1: two picks. Not great stats, but yeah, I'm with you
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Speaker 1: on that. I thought it was I thought it was weird,
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Speaker 1: and it didn't get much better for Bathrood once he
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Speaker 1: got in there. You know who looked like a bad
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Speaker 1: man at George killed him? Man, fifteen targets, fifteen recepts
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Speaker 1: is one hundred and eighty five yards. Weren't you just injured, sir?
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Speaker 1: That's what I said. I can't him off the couch
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Speaker 1: like this. Goodness gracious that. Say what you want about
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Speaker 1: the Niners. They still have the best tight in the league.
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Speaker 1: And honestly, yeah, we have some good tight ends here
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Speaker 1: where the Seahawks. But George Kittle is a different beast man.
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Speaker 1: He's a different breed one hundred and eighth yards of
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Speaker 1: the tight end position, and you can't get him down.
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Speaker 1: It's the yak and then he he'll kill you in
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Speaker 1: the run game. Yeah, George Kittle. I'll give credit to word,
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Speaker 1: credits to man. That dude is a bad man. Best
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Speaker 1: tight end of the game. All right, let's go to La.
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Speaker 1: Now the Rams, they are three and one. They're looking okay.
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Speaker 1: But forget the forget the record, forget the stats. Jalen
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Speaker 1: Ramsey and Golden Tail. Oh, we we all know Golden
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Speaker 1: Tail likes to run that mouth. Jalen Ramsey likes to
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Speaker 1: run that mouth. Now you put family business into the
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Speaker 1: mix with Jalen Dayton, Golden Tay's sister, Golden feels disrespected
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Speaker 1: now Jaalen got the best of Golden and only reason
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Speaker 1: why he did was because Golden Tape plays offense like
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Speaker 1: you can't really deliver a blow unless you're blocking somebody
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Speaker 1: when you're playing offense, Jayleen, I mean, I was a
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Speaker 1: form tackle, lifted them up, grab cloth, drove him into
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Speaker 1: the ground. Not a good look. But we're receivers. What
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Speaker 1: can we really do to defend ourselves out there during
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Speaker 1: the play? I mean, during the play, it's tough unless
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Speaker 1: you have some kind of a crack where he doesn't
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Speaker 1: see it coming. But he's out there on an island
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Speaker 1: by himself, and honestly, I mean, the fight didn't end
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Speaker 1: on the field into the parking lot. And let me
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Speaker 1: tell you something. What I do know is say each
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Speaker 1: one about Jane Ramsey. But something tells me he's about
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Speaker 1: that life. Yeah, yeah, he's about that life. He I
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Speaker 1: believe it. But the Rams of three one, they're only
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Speaker 1: losses to the Bills, which is a good football team.
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Speaker 1: They beat Dallas, they beat the Eagles, they beat the Giant,
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Speaker 1: So the wins aren't super impressive. But if there is
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Speaker 1: an impressive loss, I guess the Bills is the impressive loss.
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Speaker 1: Now in Arizona, these guys were two and two. The
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Speaker 1: thing that's hurt in these guys is that they're asking
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Hopkins to do everything. At this point
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Speaker 1: that's just not going to happen. And Buddha Baker hasn't
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Speaker 1: been on the field recipe for disaster so far. But
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Speaker 1: I think they'll be able to climb themselves out this hole. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're, like we said, we've talked about every week.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they were the trendy pick to kind of
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Speaker 1: really turn heads and kind of take the next step
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Speaker 1: in the NFC West. And Kyla Murray again, he wasn't bad.
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Speaker 1: He threw for three touchdowns, didn't have a tenty yardage,
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Speaker 1: but they started off slow. They went punt punt, punt, touchdown, punt, fumble.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to kind of get going there. So it'll
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Speaker 1: be interesting. We'll have to watch them closely because obviously
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Speaker 1: second year head coach, new offense, but like you said,
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Speaker 1: the heavy lifting needs to be spread a little bit more.
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Speaker 1: So we'll definitely keep a close eye on those tricky
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Speaker 1: Cardinals at Arizona. So that's the word in the West
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Speaker 1: and Seattle Seahawks are four no Rams three and one,
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Speaker 1: Cardinals two and two, Frisco two and who's still the
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Speaker 1: best division in football? I looked around and I'm like, well,
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Speaker 1: is there another division that's kind of messing with them?
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Speaker 1: Then I looked at the AFC North. I looked, I
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Speaker 1: looked at the records, and then I saw who these
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Speaker 1: guys were playing, and I'm like, nah, AFC North, I
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Speaker 1: don't believe anybody in that division right now. So who
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Speaker 1: do the Hawks need to stop? Let's go to man up?
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Speaker 1: Who is this mass? Man up? On Hawk Talk? Man Up?
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Speaker 1: The first matchup the man of the hour Kirk Cousins
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Speaker 1: against the Seahawks defense. Now we gotta talk about Kirk
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Speaker 1: Cousins a little bit, man, because yeah, I think he
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Speaker 1: gets kind of a bad rat man. So everyone talks
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Speaker 1: about him. It's mister mediocre. They say he can't win
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Speaker 1: the big game, he can't do any of that. So
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Speaker 1: I'll give you the stats. He's sixty two for one
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Speaker 1: hundred eight hundred and eighty three yards, six touchdown, six picks. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that seems kind of average. A career record forty five
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Speaker 1: forty five and two. That's the definition average. Oh you
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Speaker 1: just say he gets a bad rap right there. Let
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Speaker 1: me finish. Their offense is sixteenth, that up thirty two teams,
17:09
Speaker 1: which is again right in the middle. But beyond the stats,
17:14
Speaker 1: beyond the eye test, I think he's a good quarterback.
17:16
Speaker 1: I just think so. He was husawd in Washington. I
17:19
Speaker 1: think he went out decided he was going to play
17:21
Speaker 1: for a franchise tag, played well, got another one, played well,
17:24
Speaker 1: and got a huge guaranteed contract. I can't hate the
17:27
Speaker 1: man for doing that. Last year he went down to
17:29
Speaker 1: New Orleans on the road, got his big playoff victory,
17:33
Speaker 1: probably the biggest victory in his career. So yes, the
17:37
Speaker 1: numbers say he's average, but I think he's better. In
17:40
Speaker 1: watching film, I think he's a better quarterback than he
17:42
Speaker 1: gets credit for. Yeah, no, I'm just giving you. I'm
17:46
Speaker 1: just giving me a little flack. Yeah, I think he's
17:48
Speaker 1: better than his record says, because we watched the film.
17:52
Speaker 1: I encourage people watch the All twenty two film. You
17:54
Speaker 1: will see he can make every single throw out there.
17:57
Speaker 1: I mean, their offense is based on play action taking shots,
18:00
Speaker 1: and he's taking his shots and more likely than not,
18:03
Speaker 1: the ball is where it's supposed to be. Now, maybe
18:05
Speaker 1: he hasn't been surrounded with the greatest team. Maybe he's
18:08
Speaker 1: not the most likable guy. I can't see myself having
18:11
Speaker 1: a beer and playing golf with this man. Can't do it.
18:13
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's why he's not connecting with the people.
18:16
Speaker 1: But you're right, you don't look at his record, you
18:19
Speaker 1: look at the film. This guy can play some football.
18:23
Speaker 1: So I just hope he doesn't play some ball against
18:25
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Now, we all know that this defense is
18:28
Speaker 1: struggling against the past. Her cousin's gonna have some opportunities.
18:32
Speaker 1: We'll see what we'll do with that. The next matchup.
18:34
Speaker 1: We gotta look at him Russell Wilson versus the Vikings
18:37
Speaker 1: struggling past defense. I see this defense at this birdman.
18:41
Speaker 1: Rub my hands together, all right, Russ. I think this
18:44
Speaker 1: is another three or four touchdown week for this guy.
18:47
Speaker 1: They got some rookies playing for him on that on
18:49
Speaker 1: that defensive side of the ball, They're they're allowing me
18:52
Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty six yards three point six yards
18:55
Speaker 1: per play, thirty one points per game. Hawks had been
18:59
Speaker 1: scoring over thirty points poor game. This is a recipe
19:02
Speaker 1: for this offense to continue to roll. Oh, no, no
19:04
Speaker 1: question about it. Honestly, like you said, if they if
19:06
Speaker 1: they're giving up Batman in the pass game, and like
19:08
Speaker 1: you said, they started two rookie corners. Okay, you're starting
19:11
Speaker 1: two rookie corners against in my opinion, the best wide
19:14
Speaker 1: receiver tanem in the NFL, DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett.
19:17
Speaker 1: That's a lot to ask for if you're a rookie
19:19
Speaker 1: coming into your second game. And then Russ is just
19:21
Speaker 1: russ Man. He leads the league touchdown passes sixteen third
19:24
Speaker 1: yards with a twelve hundred and eighty five first and
19:26
Speaker 1: completion percentage first and yards per pass fourth in QBR
19:30
Speaker 1: number one in passer rating. I mean, like you said,
19:33
Speaker 1: you're looking at your chops, man, I don't that's a
19:36
Speaker 1: that's a bad Russell's a bad matchup for anyone in
19:39
Speaker 1: the NFL, let alone, if that's the one thing you
19:41
Speaker 1: were struggling with as a unit. So it's gonna be
19:43
Speaker 1: tough matchup for those guys. Tough matchup you mentioned DK
19:48
Speaker 1: and Tyler Lockett against these rookie dbs. I'm with you.
19:51
Speaker 1: This is the number one due in the league right now.
19:53
Speaker 1: And DK Metcalf leads the NFL with four hundred and
19:57
Speaker 1: three four and in three yards with sixteen receptions. That's
20:01
Speaker 1: over twenty five yards a reception. He is eating up
20:04
Speaker 1: a quarter of the field every time he gets to football.
20:07
Speaker 1: If your average starting position is around the thirty yard line,
20:10
Speaker 1: you cast a rock. You're already an enemy territory doing
20:13
Speaker 1: this thing. DK Metcalf is playing like a potential pro bowler.
20:18
Speaker 1: And now Tyler Lockett had to drop last game, didn't
20:21
Speaker 1: get the targets that he would have liked. But that
20:24
Speaker 1: opened up the game for Greg Olsen. That opened up
20:26
Speaker 1: the game for DK. I expect Tyler Lockett to have
20:29
Speaker 1: a bounce back game this week, No, no question about it.
20:32
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not gonna be many times where Tyler's
20:34
Speaker 1: only got four targets and two receptions. That might be
20:36
Speaker 1: the last time that happens this year. But here's the thing.
20:39
Speaker 1: If you're the defense is pick your poison. Okay, if
20:41
Speaker 1: you're gonna commit, a lot of guys are taken away.
20:43
Speaker 1: Tyler DK is gonna be tough. Another matchup, Dalvin Cook
20:48
Speaker 1: versus Seahawks front seven. Dalvin kug is the best running
20:50
Speaker 1: back in the NFL right now. Four hundred and twenty
20:52
Speaker 1: four yards that's first in the league. Six touchdowns, that's
20:55
Speaker 1: first in the league. Twenty five four smiths tackles, excuse me,
20:59
Speaker 1: twenty one forced miss tackles. You gotta wrap him up,
21:03
Speaker 1: and let's not sleep on him in a pass game.
21:05
Speaker 1: His numbers in the pass game might not be great,
21:07
Speaker 1: but if he needs to swing out and in cash
21:10
Speaker 1: the rock or cast a scream, he can do that too.
21:12
Speaker 1: What do you like the most out of Dalvin Cook?
21:14
Speaker 1: That's a tough question. There's a lot. First of all,
21:17
Speaker 1: I would watch this one play or touchdown he had
21:20
Speaker 1: against the Texans. It was second down and three I
21:23
Speaker 1: think from like the seven yard line right and it's
21:25
Speaker 1: a nice little hand up up the middle and he's
21:27
Speaker 1: dead to rights. He is hit by three different dudes.
21:29
Speaker 1: He's his low center of gravity. He's not a big dude,
21:32
Speaker 1: but he'll shrug off tackles, gets outside sis, stiff arms
21:35
Speaker 1: a corner touchdown around the edge. So he's just his
21:38
Speaker 1: balance and his vision is what really comes off. The
21:40
Speaker 1: jumps off this page for me. Also, he's quick, he's elusive,
21:44
Speaker 1: and here's a deal bump straight up. This is the
21:46
Speaker 1: main key to the game. You shut down the run,
21:48
Speaker 1: the Seahawks will win. If you don't, it's going to
21:51
Speaker 1: be a long day. Everything that they do starts with
21:54
Speaker 1: the run. All of their passes set up by long
21:57
Speaker 1: play action, long developing crossing around. So this is this
22:01
Speaker 1: is it. Man. If he goes off, it can be
22:03
Speaker 1: a really tough day for the Seahawks defense. Yeah, I'm
22:06
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. They kind of remind me of the Seahawks.
22:08
Speaker 1: A lot of crossing routes, a lot of plashes, and
22:10
Speaker 1: a lot of long developing plays. Now, the Hawks are
22:13
Speaker 1: third in the NFL and rush defense, allowing just seventy
22:16
Speaker 1: five yards. If they need, they need to continue to
22:21
Speaker 1: be the third rushing defense in the NFL, like you mentioned,
22:24
Speaker 1: for them to win this ball game, Dalvin Cook gets loose,
22:27
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's gonna be a long day. Next
22:29
Speaker 1: matchup Adam Feeling and Justin Jefferson verse the Seahawks DBS.
22:34
Speaker 1: This is a nice combo. So so far, the Hawks
22:36
Speaker 1: have seen Julio Ridley, Um, Julian Edelman will he's by himself.
22:43
Speaker 1: They've seen Michael Gallup and Amari Cooper. Who else are that? Well,
22:48
Speaker 1: I'm a blank all they saw just SICKI Who's Who's
22:51
Speaker 1: all right? And DeVante Parker. This is probably the second
22:57
Speaker 1: or the second most talented duo I've seen. I would
22:59
Speaker 1: put Gallop and Cooper in front of them, Nah, scratch that,
23:03
Speaker 1: I'm everywhere right now, and ask Julio and Ridley. I
23:05
Speaker 1: would put as the best duel they've seen so far.
23:08
Speaker 1: And both those dudes went four a hundred and a
23:10
Speaker 1: third receiver win four a hundred. They're gonna be tested
23:13
Speaker 1: this week with Jefferson and Feeling. Both are capable of
23:15
Speaker 1: going for a hundred, and they're going up against a
23:18
Speaker 1: struggling defense. Trey Flowers needs a balanced back game. Looks
23:21
Speaker 1: like his confidence is down. Shack has been playing pretty
23:24
Speaker 1: good two games, two picks, so maybe he's gonna hold
23:26
Speaker 1: that side down for sure. No, and I'll agree with you.
23:29
Speaker 1: I think Julio and Ridley are number one, and then
23:32
Speaker 1: Feeling and Jefferson, Gallop and Cooper they're about They're about
23:35
Speaker 1: the same. They do things different. It's gonna look different.
23:38
Speaker 1: Feeling isn't the guy who's gonna kill you a speed
23:40
Speaker 1: of dule that stuff. But he will get down the field,
23:42
Speaker 1: will make big plays. He had back to back thousand
23:44
Speaker 1: yards seasons in seventeen and eighteen before missing games with injury.
23:47
Speaker 1: Last year. He's got four touchdowns touring eighty four yards
23:50
Speaker 1: this year. You mentioned the rookie justin Jefferson. He's balling out.
23:54
Speaker 1: And the thing that's really intriguing about this matchup is
23:56
Speaker 1: because of their offense. They run so many formations with
24:00
Speaker 1: two backs and two tight ends and stuff like that.
24:02
Speaker 1: On most plays, you're only gonna see two receivers on
24:04
Speaker 1: the field, and it's stealing in Jefferson. So Trey Flowers
24:08
Speaker 1: and Shaquille Griffin are definitely can get a lot of
24:10
Speaker 1: work this Sunday. You're gonna get that work. What's another
24:14
Speaker 1: matchup we're looking at Nass Yeah, unique In Gockway, okay
24:18
Speaker 1: versus Dwayne Brown Brandon Chelle Gockway came over from the Jags.
24:22
Speaker 1: So far this series got nine tackles, three sacks, two
24:25
Speaker 1: forced fumbles. But bumble dooo, a little shameless plug for
24:28
Speaker 1: your film session. You broke down the Minnesota Vikings. You
24:31
Speaker 1: took a little in depth look at them. Now. You
24:33
Speaker 1: texted me the other day and said, hey, man In
24:36
Speaker 1: Gockway's a problem. Tell me what you saw this man? Yeah, man,
24:39
Speaker 1: I see a guy one he loves the nine tech
24:42
Speaker 1: nine tech does gets some really wide on the line
24:44
Speaker 1: of scrimmace. Who has room to attack that offensive tackle?
24:48
Speaker 1: And when he fires off the football, I wouldn't. I'm
24:51
Speaker 1: gonna say that his first three steps are just as
24:53
Speaker 1: fast as the fastest dude in the NFL. His first
24:55
Speaker 1: three steps out of his three point stands. It's ridiculous.
24:58
Speaker 1: And then I watched this guy work. You know what
25:00
Speaker 1: the rule is, when you're rushing, you never get deeper
25:03
Speaker 1: than the quarterback. This dude continues to get deeper than
25:06
Speaker 1: the quarterback. But it's so athletic. Gets his hands off
25:08
Speaker 1: of him, fires back downhill. He just plays with a
25:11
Speaker 1: motor that I haven't really seen. This guy is one
25:15
Speaker 1: of the twitchiest defensive ends I've seen in a long time. Now.
25:19
Speaker 1: He's only got three sacks, which isn't bad going into
25:22
Speaker 1: week five. Nine tackles, but he's gonna force quarterbacks to
25:26
Speaker 1: maneuver in that pocket. Dwayne Brown, Randon Shell, you got
25:30
Speaker 1: your hands full this week. You're gonna need some help.
25:34
Speaker 1: Just contain him. He's gonna make plays. Contain him. I
25:37
Speaker 1: just see a dude that's twitches hill, no question about it.
25:39
Speaker 1: And the thing about that I liked out of him
25:41
Speaker 1: is his ability to turn the corner. You said he
25:43
Speaker 1: likes to line up in that nine technique, but his
25:45
Speaker 1: ability to get skinny almost like someone trying to block
25:48
Speaker 1: a kick or block a punt, or he can kind
25:50
Speaker 1: of dip that shoulder and get underneath. And the other
25:52
Speaker 1: thing too, is a lot of times all those nine tackles,
25:55
Speaker 1: that's team's running the ball away from him and him
25:58
Speaker 1: coming down the line of scrimmage and making the tack
26:00
Speaker 1: from behind because he's quick. So he's gonna have Dwayne
26:04
Speaker 1: Brown Ranichell or definitely have their handsful. Hopefully they can
26:07
Speaker 1: kind of ride him behind Russell and Russell can step up.
26:09
Speaker 1: But that means everyone's got to do their job. Because
26:11
Speaker 1: Yanique is a he's a baller man. Yep, he's a baller.
26:15
Speaker 1: We gotta look after him. But for these Hawks to
26:18
Speaker 1: get it done, gotta control Unique, got a limit, Cousins,
26:22
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, Justin Jefferson. Let's just get to the path
26:25
Speaker 1: of victory. At the forty five, waits for the snaff
26:30
Speaker 1: Michael Vickson puts it down. That kick is away. If
26:33
Speaker 1: that kick is good, good, say it's good. It's a
26:38
Speaker 1: path to victory on Hawk Talk. Path to victory. Like
26:44
Speaker 1: we mentioned, they have to stop the run. Dalvin Cook,
26:46
Speaker 1: can that go off like he has every game this season.
26:50
Speaker 1: You gotta be the number three rush defense in the NFL.
26:52
Speaker 1: You have to do what you've done to Ezekiel Elliott,
26:55
Speaker 1: to Todd Gurley to Cam Newton. Can't stop now, can't stop,
26:59
Speaker 1: won't stop. They got us stock Cook, no question about it.
27:01
Speaker 1: We've we've kind of hammered into the ground. But that's
27:03
Speaker 1: what they do offensively, and they're not going to go
27:06
Speaker 1: away from what they do. Everything. If you can't stop them,
27:08
Speaker 1: They're going to continue to run the ball and that
27:10
Speaker 1: just sets up play actions. So he is enemy number one.
27:12
Speaker 1: To get a victory this week. Next thing they gotta do.
27:16
Speaker 1: They gotta build off the last week. Continue to stop
27:17
Speaker 1: the big plays and keep everything in front. There's no digs,
27:20
Speaker 1: but this dude, justin Jefferson leads the league in plays
27:23
Speaker 1: over twenty yards and he's a rookie, so he has
27:25
Speaker 1: big playability. You have to contain those. The Hawks did
27:29
Speaker 1: that last week. Stay on these guys hips now make plays.
27:33
Speaker 1: I think Shack is in a position mentally to work.
27:35
Speaker 1: He's good to go now. He's seeing the game. He's
27:38
Speaker 1: breaking on Rouses technique, his text book. I slowed it
27:41
Speaker 1: down and show my son, Mike, Look, this is how
27:43
Speaker 1: you undercut a post. Right here, son, this is how
27:45
Speaker 1: you do it. So Shaq is in a good place.
27:47
Speaker 1: They have to contain the big plays. Yeah, and that's
27:49
Speaker 1: we talked about explosive plays last week, and it was
27:51
Speaker 1: good to see that for the first time this season
27:53
Speaker 1: the Seahawks actually did that. Because it's a rescipe for disaster.
27:55
Speaker 1: As we know, when they start getting five, six, seven, eight, nine,
27:58
Speaker 1: Tana and the explosives you hold them under twenty yards,
28:01
Speaker 1: they're not getting chunk yardage that contributed to them holding
28:03
Speaker 1: Miami to field goals. So you gotta keep getting that
28:05
Speaker 1: done now, as they got to get off the field
28:08
Speaker 1: on third down. I feel like every week teams are
28:10
Speaker 1: over fifty percent when it comes to third down conversions
28:12
Speaker 1: Against these dudes. You're getting off the field on third down,
28:15
Speaker 1: they're putting it on the foot, You're getting more possessions
28:17
Speaker 1: for your offense. When the offense is the strength of
28:19
Speaker 1: your team. Third downs are important because you want to
28:21
Speaker 1: get it back in Russell Wilson's hands, especially because this
28:24
Speaker 1: team wants to run the football. So I mean, I
28:26
Speaker 1: know their game plan this week is what can we
28:27
Speaker 1: do to get the ball out of number three's hands.
28:29
Speaker 1: So if we can't get off the field, Russell can't
28:31
Speaker 1: cook on the other side of the ball. So definitely
28:33
Speaker 1: get off the field on third down another path to
28:37
Speaker 1: victory and go after the Vikings pass defense. Russell Wilson,
28:40
Speaker 1: DK Tyler Login all need to have big games to
28:43
Speaker 1: test the rookie corners, and I'm still waiting for Uncle
28:46
Speaker 1: Will to have a game too. Greg had his moment
28:48
Speaker 1: last Week's time for Uncle Will to get involved. They
28:51
Speaker 1: got to unleash that man. I'm telling you, he's so
28:54
Speaker 1: deadly the last couple of years when he was healthy,
28:56
Speaker 1: especially attacking the team, and he's such a good run
28:58
Speaker 1: defender that guys, you know, get their eyes in the
29:00
Speaker 1: wrong spot. Uncle Will. We really need to see an
29:02
Speaker 1: appearance from him, because once he gets going, I think
29:04
Speaker 1: this offense is gonna be scary good. I believe it.
29:08
Speaker 1: Chris Carson's gotta keep going. We saw a glimpse of
29:10
Speaker 1: it last week. Sixteen carries eighty yards. It can't just
29:13
Speaker 1: be Russell all the time. Can't just be Russell all
29:15
Speaker 1: the time. It's nice to have Russell all the time.
29:18
Speaker 1: It's nice to have that option, but the great teams
29:21
Speaker 1: distribute the ball and they are versatile. You can't just
29:25
Speaker 1: make them do one thing. The Hawks teams are going
29:28
Speaker 1: to try to force him to run the football, which
29:30
Speaker 1: is crazy to even say. Right now, teams are going
29:32
Speaker 1: to force the Hawks to run the football because of
29:35
Speaker 1: what Russell Wilson has been doing this year. Yeah, and
29:37
Speaker 1: you're right, that's crazy to think. We've been talking about
29:39
Speaker 1: how run dominant offense we've been everyone's wanting Russ to
29:42
Speaker 1: throw the ball every down. Carson's had back to back
29:44
Speaker 1: thousand yard seasons. Teams want us to run the football now,
29:47
Speaker 1: and we got to take advantage of it because we're
29:49
Speaker 1: still incredibly good at that. We've improved a lot in
29:51
Speaker 1: the offensive line in our pass pro, but we can
29:52
Speaker 1: still run the pill, we can still run block. Even
29:54
Speaker 1: Post has been comfortable up front, Damian Lewis is comfortable
29:57
Speaker 1: up front, Dwayne Brown, Brandon Shell. So I want to
30:00
Speaker 1: see them continue to do what they've been doing. Chris
30:02
Speaker 1: Carson goff this night last week after that injury was
30:04
Speaker 1: really productive, eight yards, best rushing game, So really looking
30:08
Speaker 1: forward to seeing that. And also, before we get out
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