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Superpowers, Subagents, and Why Coding Isn’t the Job Anymore - With Jesse Vincent · Chaos Agents

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  I
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  don't
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  think
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  that
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  the
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  models
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  are
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  sentient,
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  but
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  I
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  also
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  don't
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  think
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  it
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  matters
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  because
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  if
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  they
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  make
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  us
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  feel
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  like
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  they're
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  alive,
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  it
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  doesn't
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  really
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  matter
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  whether
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  they
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  really
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  are.
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  Hello
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  and
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  welcome
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  back
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  to
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  Chaos
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  Agents,
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  the
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  podcast
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  where
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  we
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  learn
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  about
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  AI
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  So
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  you
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  don't
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  have
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  to.
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  Hi,
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  Becca.
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  Hey,
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  Sarah.
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  Hey,
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  girl.
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  How's
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  your
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  day?
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  Day
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  is
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  good.
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  I
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  don't
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  know.
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  Just
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  the
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  weeks
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  flying
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  by.
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  Oh,
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  I
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  will
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  tell
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  you
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  one
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  thing.
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  I
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  will
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  tell
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  you
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  one
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  thing,
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  Sarah.
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  Chips.
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  You
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  know
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  what's
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  happening
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  this
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  weekend?
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  What?
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  Final
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  four.
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  UConn
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  men
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  and
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  women
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  are
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  both
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  in
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  it.
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  Crazy.
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  For
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  those
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  of
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  you
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  who
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  don't
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  know,
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  I
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  am
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  a
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  proud
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  UConn
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  alum.
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  Go
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  Huskies.
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  Let's
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  go.
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  Who
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  are
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  the
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  women
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  playing?
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  Do
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  you
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  know?
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  The
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  women
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  are
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  playing
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  South
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  Carolina,
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  Your
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  classic.
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  Is
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  that
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  Don
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  Staley?
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  Yeah.
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  Oh,
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  yeah,
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  yeah,
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  yeah,
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  yeah.
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  A
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  little
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  Gino
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  Don
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  matchup.
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  Love
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  that.
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  That's
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  tomorrow
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  night.
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  And
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  then
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  the
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  men
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  are
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  playing
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  Illinois
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  on
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  Saturday.
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  Did
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  you
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  happen
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  to
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  see
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  the
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  men's
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  last
• 1:09
  game?
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  No.
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  It's
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  like
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  one
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  of
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  those,
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  like,
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  epic
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  March
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  Madness
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  moments
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  that
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  will,
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  like,
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  go
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  down
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  in
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  history.
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  Really?
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  It
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  was
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  like
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  a
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  buzzer
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  beater.
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  Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay,
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  so
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  I
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  have
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  stuff
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  to
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  talk
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  about
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  today
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  because
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  I've
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  been
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  learning
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  a
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  lot
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  recently
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  about
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  AlphaFold.
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  About
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  AlphaFold.
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  Okay.
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  We're
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  getting
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  into
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  a
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  little
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  biotech
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  today.
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  Love
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  it.
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  Tell
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  me.
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  Yeah,
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  yeah.
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  Okay.
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  So
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  do
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  you
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  know
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  about
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  this?
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  I
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  do.
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  I
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  know
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  about
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  AlphaFold.
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  We
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  are,
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  mostly
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  through
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  the
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  context
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  of
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  factorial,
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  is
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  an
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  investor
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  in
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  a
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  open
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  source
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  company
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  called
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  Bolts
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  that
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  is
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  like,
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  similar,
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  like
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  in
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  the
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  same
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  category
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  sort
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  of
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  as
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  AlphaFold.
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  But
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  I'm
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  like,
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  I
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  can't
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  say.
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  I've
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  done
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  a
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  deep
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  dive.
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  So,
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  like,
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  I
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  can't
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  wait
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  to
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  be
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  taught
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  by
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  you.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay,
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  great.
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  So
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  AlphaFold
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  came
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  out
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  in
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  like
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  2020,
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  2021
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  from
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  Google
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  DeepMind.
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  Basically,
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  given
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  a
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  string
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  of
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  amino
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  acids,
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  what
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  3D
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  shape
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  will
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  a
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  protein
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  fold
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  into?
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  And
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  I
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  know
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  what
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  you're
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  thinking.
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  Why
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  do
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  I
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  care
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  about
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  any
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  of
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  those
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  words?
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  You
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  care
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  about
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  it
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  because
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  we
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  learn
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  about
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  AI
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  So
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  y'
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  all
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  don't
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  have
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  to.
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  Let's
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  go.
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  I
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  know.
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  Okay,
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  so
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  you
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  may
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  know
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  this
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  already.
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  You
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  might
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  remember
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  biology,
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  your
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  high
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  school
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  biology
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  class,
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  your
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  college
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  biology
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  class.
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  But
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  basically
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  a
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  protein,
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  like,
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  doesn't
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  do
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  anything
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  until
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  it
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  folds
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  into
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  the
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  right
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  shape.
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  Protein
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  is
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  like
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  a
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  long
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  chain
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  of
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  amino
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  acids
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  and
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  it
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  folds
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  itself
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  into
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  a
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  very
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  specific
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  three
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  dimensional
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  shape.
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  And
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  based
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  on
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  the
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  shape,
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  you
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  can
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  know
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  what
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  it
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  binds
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  to,
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  what
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  it
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  does,
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  whether
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  it
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  works
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  that
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  kind
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  of
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  thing.
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  So
• 2:39
  based
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  on
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  its
• 2:39
  shape,
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  proteins
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  in
• 2:41
  your
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  body,
• 2:41
  they
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  work
• 2:41
  like
• 2:42
  tiny
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  machines.
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  And
• 2:43
  based
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  on
• 2:43
  its
• 2:43
  shape,
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  it's
• 2:44
  kind
• 2:44
  of
• 2:44
  like
• 2:45
  its
• 2:45
  function.
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  An
• 2:46
  enzyme
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  has
• 2:47
  like
• 2:47
  a
• 2:47
  little
• 2:47
  pocket
• 2:48
  and
• 2:48
  it's
• 2:48
  shaped
• 2:49
  for
• 2:49
  a
• 2:49
  specific
• 2:49
  molecule.
• 2:50
  And
• 2:50
  if
• 2:51
  the
• 2:51
  shape
• 2:51
  matches,
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  a
• 2:52
  reaction
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  happens,
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  and
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  if
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  it
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  doesn't,
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  nothing
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  happens.
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  It's
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  like
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  a
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  key,
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  kind
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  of
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  like
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  it
• 2:58
  needs
• 2:58
  to
• 2:58
  fit
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  into
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  the
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  keyhole.
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  That's
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  exactly
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  it.
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  So
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  the
• 3:01
  protein,
• 3:01
  like
• 3:01
  if
• 3:01
  you
• 3:02
  think
• 3:02
  of
• 3:02
  it,
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  that
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  is
• 3:02
  a
• 3:02
  lock.
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  And
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  then
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  a
• 3:03
  molecule
• 3:04
  is
• 3:04
  the
• 3:04
  key.
• 3:05
  And
• 3:05
  a
• 3:05
  lot
• 3:05
  of
• 3:06
  prescription
• 3:06
  drugs
• 3:07
  work
• 3:08
  by
• 3:08
  binding
• 3:08
  to
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  a
• 3:09
  specific
• 3:09
  protein,
• 3:10
  turning
• 3:11
  that
• 3:11
  protein
• 3:11
  like
• 3:11
  on
• 3:12
  or
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  off.
• 3:12
  And
• 3:13
  in
• 3:13
  order
• 3:13
  to
• 3:13
  do
• 3:14
  that,
• 3:14
  you
• 3:14
  have
• 3:15
  to
• 3:15
  know
• 3:15
  what
• 3:15
  the
• 3:15
  protein
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  looks
• 3:16
  like
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  and
• 3:16
  like
• 3:17
  what
• 3:17
  that
• 3:17
  keyhole
• 3:18
  looks
• 3:18
  like,
• 3:18
  like
• 3:18
  what
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  kind
• 3:19
  of
• 3:19
  key
• 3:19
  it
• 3:19
  is.
• 3:20
  The
• 3:20
  way
• 3:20
  it
• 3:20
  used
• 3:21
  to
• 3:21
  work
• 3:21
  is
• 3:21
  people
• 3:21
  would
• 3:21
  like
• 3:22
  guess
• 3:23
  and
• 3:23
  try
• 3:24
  things,
• 3:24
  you
• 3:25
  know,
• 3:25
  which
• 3:26
  actually
• 3:26
  turns
• 3:26
  out
• 3:26
  to
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  be
• 3:27
  how
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  a
• 3:27
  lot
• 3:28
  of
• 3:28
  things
• 3:28
  worked.
• 3:29
  But
• 3:30
  this
• 3:30
  probably
• 3:30
  works.
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  Wow.
• 3:31
  You
• 3:31
  know,
• 3:32
  okay,
• 3:32
  yeah,
• 3:32
  little,
• 3:32
  little
• 3:33
  trial
• 3:33
  and
• 3:33
  error.
• 3:34
  Exactly.
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  And.
• 3:36
  Or
• 3:36
  like
• 3:37
  this
• 3:37
  thing,
• 3:37
  we
• 3:37
  know
• 3:38
  this
• 3:38
  works.
• 3:38
  So
• 3:38
  maybe
• 3:38
  this
• 3:39
  other
• 3:39
  parallel
• 3:40
  thing
• 3:40
  might
• 3:40
  work.
• 3:41
  So
• 3:41
  if
• 3:41
  a
• 3:41
  protein
• 3:41
  folds
• 3:42
  incorrectly,
• 3:43
  it
• 3:43
  can
• 3:43
  stop
• 3:43
  working
• 3:43
  or
• 3:44
  even
• 3:44
  worse
• 3:45
  become
• 3:45
  toxic,
• 3:46
  which
• 3:46
  is
• 3:46
  what
• 3:47
  can
• 3:47
  create
• 3:47
  some
• 3:48
  diseases.
• 3:49
  So
• 3:49
  if
• 3:49
  you
• 3:49
  can
• 3:49
  prevent
• 3:50
  that
• 3:50
  or
• 3:51
  find
• 3:51
  like
• 3:51
  a
• 3:51
  solution
• 3:52
  in
• 3:52
  the
• 3:53
  form
• 3:53
  of
• 3:53
  a
• 3:54
  prescription,
• 3:54
  that
• 3:54
  can
• 3:55
  prevent
• 3:55
  that,
• 3:56
  then
• 3:57
  that's
• 3:57
  how
• 3:57
  that's
• 3:58
  specific
• 3:58
  type
• 3:58
  of
• 3:59
  medicine
• 3:59
  work.
• 3:59
  Okay.
• 4:00
  And
• 4:00
  the
• 4:01
  problem
• 4:01
  was
• 4:01
  really
• 4:01
  hard
• 4:01
  because
• 4:02
  a
• 4:02
  protein
• 4:02
  has
• 4:03
  hundreds
• 4:03
  of
• 4:03
  amino
• 4:04
  acids
• 4:05
  that
• 4:05
  can
• 4:05
  bend
• 4:06
  and
• 4:06
  rotate
• 4:07
  in
• 4:07
  like
• 4:07
  a
• 4:08
  gazillion
• 4:09
  ways.
• 4:09
  And
• 4:09
  so
• 4:09
  there's
• 4:10
  many,
• 4:10
  many
• 4:11
  shapes.
• 4:12
  And
• 4:12
  predicting
• 4:13
  that
• 4:13
  the
• 4:13
  correct
• 4:13
  one
• 4:13
  was
• 4:14
  crazy.
• 4:15
  And
• 4:15
  so
• 4:15
  when
• 4:15
  AlphaFold
• 4:16
  came
• 4:16
  out,
• 4:17
  it
• 4:17
  learned
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  patterns
• 4:18
  between
• 4:19
  sequence
• 4:20
  and
• 4:20
  shape.
• 4:21
  So
• 4:21
  like,
• 4:22
  instead
• 4:22
  of
• 4:22
  like
• 4:22
  looking
• 4:23
  at
• 4:23
  the
• 4:23
  proteins
• 4:24
  like
• 4:24
  sequences,
• 4:25
  it
• 4:25
  could
• 4:26
  infer
• 4:26
  the
• 4:27
  three
• 4:27
  dimensional
• 4:28
  shape
• 4:28
  the
• 4:29
  protein,
• 4:30
  which
• 4:30
  was
• 4:30
  so
• 4:31
  helpful
• 4:32
  because
• 4:32
  like
• 4:32
  we
• 4:33
  have
• 4:33
  tools
• 4:33
  like
• 4:33
  cad,
• 4:34
  you
• 4:34
  know,
• 4:35
  like
• 4:35
  we
• 4:35
  know
• 4:35
  what
• 4:35
  to
• 4:35
  do
• 4:36
  with
• 4:36
  shapes
• 4:36
  and
• 4:36
  how
• 4:37
  to
• 4:37
  like
• 4:37
  figure
• 4:37
  out
• 4:37
  how
• 4:37
  to
• 4:38
  make
• 4:38
  things
• 4:38
  with
• 4:39
  shapes
• 4:40
  work.
• 4:41
  And
• 4:41
  so
• 4:41
  when
• 4:41
  they
• 4:41
  did
• 4:42
  that,
• 4:42
  they
• 4:42
  could
• 4:42
  start
• 4:42
  to
• 4:43
  actually
• 4:43
  be
• 4:43
  really
• 4:44
  purposeful
• 4:45
  about
• 4:45
  the
• 4:45
  proteins
• 4:46
  that
• 4:46
  it
• 4:46
  was
• 4:46
  creating
• 4:47
  or
• 4:47
  the
• 4:47
  molecules
• 4:48
  that
• 4:48
  it
• 4:48
  was
• 4:48
  creating
• 4:49
  to
• 4:49
  go
• 4:49
  into
• 4:49
  those
• 4:50
  proteins.
• 4:50
  Rather,
• 4:50
  were
• 4:51
  they
• 4:51
  able
• 4:51
  to
• 4:51
  do
• 4:51
  this
• 4:52
  by
• 4:52
  essentially
• 4:53
  training
• 4:54
  the
• 4:54
  model
• 4:54
  on
• 4:54
  a
• 4:54
  data
• 4:55
  set
• 4:55
  of
• 4:55
  like
• 4:56
  sequence
• 4:57
  and
• 4:57
  shape?
• 4:58
  Like
• 4:58
  this
• 4:58
  sequence
• 4:59
  leads
• 5:00
  to
• 5:00
  this
• 5:01
  shape.
• 5:01
  That's
• 5:02
  a
• 5:02
  really
• 5:02
  good
• 5:02
  question.
• 5:02
  I
• 5:03
  don't
• 5:03
  know
• 5:03
  the
• 5:03
  answer
• 5:03
  to.
• 5:05
  We'll
• 5:05
  look
• 5:05
  it
• 5:05
  up.
• 5:06
  Yeah,
• 5:06
  we'll
• 5:06
  look
• 5:07
  it
• 5:07
  up.
• 5:07
  The
• 5:08
  thing
• 5:08
  that's
• 5:09
  interesting
• 5:09
  with
• 5:10
  AI
• 5:10
  too
• 5:11
  is
• 5:11
  like
• 5:11
  before,
• 5:12
  even
• 5:12
  though
• 5:13
  we
• 5:13
  had
• 5:13
  the
• 5:13
  shapes,
• 5:14
  it
• 5:14
  was
• 5:14
  like
• 5:15
  biologists
• 5:15
  sitting
• 5:16
  there
• 5:16
  with
• 5:16
  like
• 5:16
  AutoCAD
• 5:17
  being
• 5:17
  like
• 5:17
  playing
• 5:18
  Legos
• 5:18
  with
• 5:19
  these
• 5:19
  things,
• 5:19
  figuring
• 5:19
  out,
• 5:20
  like,
• 5:20
  what
• 5:20
  would
• 5:20
  work.
• 5:21
  And
• 5:21
  now
• 5:22
  we
• 5:22
  have
• 5:22
  AI
• 5:23
  doing
• 5:23
  that,
• 5:23
  which
• 5:23
  can
• 5:24
  just
• 5:24
  go
• 5:24
  much
• 5:25
  faster.
• 5:25
  It
• 5:25
  can
• 5:25
  go
• 5:25
  like,
• 5:26
  boom,
• 5:26
  doesn't
• 5:27
  fit.
• 5:27
  Boom,
• 5:27
  doesn't
• 5:27
  fit.
• 5:28
  Boom,
• 5:28
  doesn't
• 5:28
  fit.
• 5:28
  Boom.
• 5:29
  You
• 5:29
  know,
• 5:29
  like,
• 5:29
  it
• 5:29
  can
• 5:30
  rapidly
• 5:30
  iterate
• 5:31
  through
• 5:31
  different
• 5:31
  types
• 5:32
  of
• 5:33
  amino
• 5:33
  acids
• 5:33
  or.
• 5:34
  And
• 5:34
  find
• 5:34
  solutions
• 5:35
  much
• 5:35
  faster
• 5:36
  than
• 5:36
  humans
• 5:37
  would
• 5:37
  be
• 5:37
  able
• 5:37
  to.
• 5:38
  Yeah,
• 5:38
  exactly.
• 5:39
  And
• 5:39
  a
• 5:40
  lot
• 5:40
  of
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  drugs
• 5:40
  that
• 5:41
  were
• 5:41
  invented
• 5:42
  because
• 5:42
  of
• 5:42
  this
• 5:42
  are
• 5:43
  starting
• 5:43
  to
• 5:43
  come
• 5:44
  into
• 5:44
  early
• 5:44
  clinical
• 5:45
  trials
• 5:45
  now.
• 5:46
  So
• 5:46
  I
• 5:46
  guess
• 5:47
  we'll
• 5:47
  see,
• 5:48
  like,
• 5:48
  apparently
• 5:49
  the
• 5:49
  drug
• 5:49
  development
• 5:50
  process
• 5:50
  about
• 5:51
  10
• 5:51
  years.
• 5:52
  So
• 5:52
  since
• 5:52
  this
• 5:52
  came
• 5:53
  out
• 5:53
  in
• 5:53
  2020,
• 5:53
  we'll
• 5:54
  start
• 5:54
  seeing
• 5:54
  the
• 5:55
  first
• 5:56
  medications
• 5:56
  that
• 5:56
  were
• 5:57
  made
• 5:57
  from
• 5:57
  this
• 5:57
  probably
• 5:57
  in
• 5:58
  about
• 5:58
  four
• 5:58
  years.
• 5:59
  Wow.
• 6:00
  Yeah.
• 6:00
  Pretty
• 6:01
  wild.
• 6:01
  That's
• 6:01
  incredible.
• 6:02
  Like,
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  like
• 6:03
  hearing
• 6:04
  the
• 6:04
  specific
• 6:05
  examples
• 6:06
  of
• 6:06
  how
• 6:07
  AI
• 6:08
  applies
• 6:08
  to
• 6:09
  things
• 6:09
  like
• 6:09
  medicine
• 6:10
  and
• 6:11
  pharma,
• 6:11
  because
• 6:12
  people
• 6:12
  talk
• 6:13
  about
• 6:13
  it
• 6:13
  a
• 6:13
  lot,
• 6:14
  like,
• 6:14
  the
• 6:14
  implications
• 6:15
  for
• 6:15
  all
• 6:15
  these
• 6:15
  fields.
• 6:16
  And
• 6:16
  you're
• 6:16
  like,
• 6:16
  totally.
• 6:17
  But
• 6:18
  then
• 6:18
  you're
• 6:18
  like,
• 6:19
  how?
• 6:20
  And
• 6:21
  a
• 6:22
  big
• 6:22
  part
• 6:22
  of
• 6:22
  that
• 6:22
  is
• 6:22
  like,
• 6:23
  the
• 6:23
  thing
• 6:24
  you
• 6:24
  did
• 6:24
  such
• 6:24
  a
• 6:24
  beautiful
• 6:24
  job
• 6:25
  of
• 6:25
  explaining
• 6:25
  to
• 6:25
  me
• 6:26
  at
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  beginning,
• 6:26
  which
• 6:26
  is
• 6:26
  like,
• 6:27
  first
• 6:27
  you
• 6:27
  kind
• 6:27
  of
• 6:27
  have
• 6:27
  to
• 6:27
  understand,
• 6:28
  like,
• 6:29
  how
• 6:29
  these
• 6:29
  things
• 6:30
  work
• 6:30
  in
• 6:31
  general,
• 6:32
  which.
• 6:32
  Thank
• 6:33
  you
• 6:33
  for
• 6:33
  the
• 6:33
  refresher.
• 6:33
  Definitely
• 6:34
  did
• 6:34
  not
• 6:34
  remember
• 6:35
  that.
• 6:36
  Sorry,
• 6:36
  sorry.
• 6:37
  AP
• 6:37
  Biology.
• 6:39
  You're
• 6:39
  from
• 6:40
  high
• 6:40
  school.
• 6:40
  Sorry.
• 6:41
  But
• 6:42
  fascinating.
• 6:43
  There's
• 6:43
  a
• 6:43
  bunch
• 6:43
  of
• 6:43
  people
• 6:44
  working
• 6:44
  this
• 6:45
  places,
• 6:45
  like
• 6:46
  isomorphic
• 6:46
  labs
• 6:47
  for
• 6:47
  cursion,
• 6:48
  pharmaceuticals,
• 6:49
  genesis,
• 6:49
  molecular
• 6:50
  AI.
• 6:51
  It's
• 6:51
  really
• 6:51
  interesting,
• 6:52
  and
• 6:53
  I
• 6:53
  hope
• 6:53
  we
• 6:54
  get
• 6:54
  to
• 6:54
  see
• 6:54
  a
• 6:54
  lot
• 6:54
  of
• 6:55
  advancement
• 6:55
  in
• 6:55
  prescription
• 6:56
  drugs.
• 6:56
  The
• 6:56
  other
• 6:57
  thing
• 6:57
  it
• 6:57
  makes
• 6:57
  me
• 6:57
  think
• 6:58
  about
• 6:58
  is,
• 6:58
  like,
• 6:59
  well,
• 6:59
  I
• 6:59
  don't
• 6:59
  know
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  business
• 7:00
  model
• 7:01
  mechanics
• 7:01
  of
• 7:02
  Alphafold,
• 7:03
  but
• 7:03
  if
• 7:04
  every
• 7:05
  pharmaceutical
• 7:06
  company,
• 7:06
  let's
• 7:07
  say,
• 7:07
  has
• 7:08
  access
• 7:08
  to
• 7:08
  technology
• 7:09
  like
• 7:09
  this,
• 7:10
  then
• 7:11
  what
• 7:11
  does
• 7:11
  the
• 7:13
  competitive
• 7:13
  advantage
• 7:14
  become
• 7:15
  in
• 7:16
  figuring
• 7:16
  out
• 7:17
  drug
• 7:17
  development?
• 7:17
  Basically,
• 7:18
  such
• 7:19
  a
• 7:19
  good
• 7:19
  question.
• 7:20
  Yeah,
• 7:20
  Yeah.
• 7:20
  I.
• 7:20
  I
• 7:21
  wonder
• 7:21
  if
• 7:21
  it's
• 7:21
  approach
• 7:22
  or
• 7:22
  like.
• 7:23
  Yeah,
• 7:24
  or
• 7:24
  like,
• 7:24
  focus,
• 7:25
  you
• 7:26
  know,
• 7:26
  it's
• 7:26
  interesting.
• 7:27
  Stay
• 7:28
  tuned.
• 7:28
  We'll
• 7:28
  do
• 7:28
  research
• 7:29
  and
• 7:29
  we'll
• 7:29
  do
• 7:29
  research.
• 7:31
  Yeah.
• 7:31
  So
• 7:32
  today
• 7:32
  we're
• 7:32
  talking
• 7:33
  to
• 7:33
  Jesse
• 7:33
  Vincent,
• 7:34
  which
• 7:34
  I'm
• 7:34
  really
• 7:34
  excited
• 7:34
  about
• 7:35
  this.
• 7:35
  So
• 7:35
  I've
• 7:35
  been
• 7:35
  talking
• 7:35
  to
• 7:35
  you
• 7:36
  about
• 7:36
  superpowers
• 7:36
  for
• 7:36
  a
• 7:36
  long
• 7:37
  time,
• 7:37
  Becca.
• 7:37
  Let
• 7:38
  me
• 7:38
  tell
• 7:38
  you
• 7:38
  what
• 7:38
  I
• 7:38
  do
• 7:38
  with
• 7:39
  superpowers.
• 7:40
  So
• 7:40
  my
• 7:41
  current
• 7:41
  workflow,
• 7:42
  I
• 7:42
  use
• 7:42
  cloud
• 7:42
  code,
• 7:43
  and
• 7:44
  I
• 7:44
  usually
• 7:44
  have
• 7:45
  a
• 7:45
  bunch
• 7:45
  of
• 7:46
  instances
• 7:46
  running
• 7:46
  at
• 7:47
  once.
• 7:47
  And
• 7:48
  I
• 7:48
  started
• 7:48
  using
• 7:49
  superpowers
• 7:50
  because
• 7:50
  one
• 7:51
  thing
• 7:51
  I've
• 7:51
  observed
• 7:52
  about
• 7:52
  coding
• 7:52
  agents,
• 7:52
  and
• 7:53
  I
• 7:53
  don't
• 7:53
  know
• 7:53
  if
• 7:53
  you've
• 7:53
  seen
• 7:53
  this
• 7:54
  as
• 7:54
  well,
• 7:54
  is
• 7:54
  sometimes
• 7:55
  it
• 7:55
  could
• 7:55
  go
• 7:55
  in
• 7:55
  a
• 7:56
  direction.
• 7:56
  It
• 7:57
  doesn't
• 7:57
  have
• 7:57
  the
• 7:57
  situational
• 7:58
  awareness
• 7:58
  to
• 7:58
  stop
• 7:59
  itself
• 7:59
  and
• 7:59
  be
• 7:59
  like,
• 8:00
  am
• 8:00
  I
• 8:00
  doing
• 8:00
  the
• 8:00
  right
• 8:00
  thing?
• 8:01
  I'll
• 8:02
  leave
• 8:02
  my
• 8:03
  computer
• 8:03
  and
• 8:04
  it'll
• 8:05
  have
• 8:05
  done
• 8:05
  something
• 8:05
  crazy.
• 8:06
  Or
• 8:06
  we'll
• 8:07
  put
• 8:07
  together
• 8:07
  a
• 8:07
  plan
• 8:07
  for
• 8:08
  it
• 8:08
  to
• 8:08
  build
• 8:08
  together
• 8:09
  and
• 8:10
  it
• 8:10
  will
• 8:10
  deviate
• 8:11
  off
• 8:11
  plan.
• 8:12
  Or
• 8:12
  like,
• 8:13
  something
• 8:13
  at
• 8:13
  step
• 8:14
  one
• 8:14
  didn't
• 8:14
  work,
• 8:15
  but
• 8:15
  it
• 8:15
  kept
• 8:15
  going.
• 8:16
  And
• 8:16
  so
• 8:16
  now
• 8:17
  it's
• 8:17
  like,
• 8:17
  just
• 8:17
  slop.
• 8:18
  I
• 8:18
  don't
• 8:18
  know.
• 8:19
  Have
• 8:19
  you
• 8:19
  seen
• 8:19
  that?
• 8:20
  Yes.
• 8:20
  For
• 8:20
  sure.
• 8:21
  Yeah.
• 8:21
  Or
• 8:22
  like,
• 8:22
  I
• 8:22
  find
• 8:22
  myself
• 8:23
  having
• 8:24
  to
• 8:25
  give
• 8:26
  a
• 8:26
  lot
• 8:26
  of
• 8:26
  extra
• 8:26
  instructions
• 8:27
  of
• 8:27
  what
• 8:28
  not
• 8:28
  to
• 8:28
  do
• 8:29
  after
• 8:29
  I
• 8:29
  give
• 8:30
  a
• 8:30
  prompt.
• 8:30
  Like,
• 8:31
  okay,
• 8:31
  let's
• 8:32
  talk
• 8:32
  through
• 8:32
  this,
• 8:32
  but
• 8:32
  don't
• 8:33
  do
• 8:33
  this.
• 8:33
  Don't
• 8:33
  write
• 8:34
  anything.
• 8:34
  And
• 8:34
  it's.
• 8:35
  Forcing
• 8:35
  discipline
• 8:36
  on
• 8:36
  your
• 8:37
  agent
• 8:37
  is
• 8:38
  difficult.
• 8:39
  It
• 8:39
  really
• 8:39
  is.
• 8:40
  Yeah.
• 8:40
  My
• 8:40
  favorite
• 8:41
  part
• 8:41
  of
• 8:41
  it
• 8:41
  is
• 8:41
  that
• 8:42
  when
• 8:42
  it
• 8:42
  writes
• 8:43
  an
• 8:43
  execution
• 8:44
  plan,
• 8:44
  it
• 8:45
  writes
• 8:45
  it
• 8:45
  in
• 8:45
  phases,
• 8:46
  and
• 8:46
  each
• 8:47
  phase
• 8:48
  is
• 8:48
  concretely
• 8:49
  testable,
• 8:50
  so
• 8:50
  it
• 8:50
  does
• 8:50
  not
• 8:51
  move
• 8:51
  past
• 8:51
  that
• 8:52
  phase
• 8:52
  until
• 8:52
  all
• 8:53
  tests
• 8:53
  pass.
• 8:53
  Which
• 8:54
  means,
• 8:54
  like,
• 8:54
  before,
• 8:55
  I
• 8:55
  was
• 8:55
  using
• 8:55
  superpowers,
• 8:56
  that's
• 8:57
  how
• 8:57
  I
• 8:57
  was
• 8:57
  writing
• 8:57
  my
• 8:58
  PRDs
• 8:59
  of,
• 8:59
  like,
• 9:00
  you
• 9:00
  need
• 9:00
  to
• 9:00
  make
• 9:00
  sure,
• 9:01
  like,
• 9:01
  this
• 9:01
  needs
• 9:01
  to
• 9:02
  be
• 9:02
  a
• 9:02
  testable
• 9:02
  step.
• 9:03
  And
• 9:03
  now
• 9:04
  superpower
• 9:04
  says
• 9:04
  that
• 9:05
  for
• 9:05
  me,
• 9:05
  which
• 9:05
  is
• 9:05
  great.
• 9:06
  Props.
• 9:06
  You
• 9:06
  were
• 9:07
  the
• 9:07
  first
• 9:07
  person
• 9:07
  to
• 9:08
  mention
• 9:08
  superpowers
• 9:09
  to
• 9:09
  me.
• 9:10
  So
• 9:10
  you
• 9:10
  were.
• 9:10
  You're
• 9:11
  really
• 9:11
  on
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  cutting
• 9:11
  edge.
• 9:12
  And
• 9:13
  since
• 9:13
  then,
• 9:14
  like,
• 9:14
  obviously,
• 9:14
  we've
• 9:15
  both
• 9:15
  seen
• 9:15
  it
• 9:16
  blow
• 9:16
  up
• 9:16
  and
• 9:17
  be
• 9:17
  so
• 9:18
  useful
• 9:18
  to
• 9:18
  so
• 9:18
  many
• 9:19
  people.
• 9:21
  Okay,
• 9:22
  so
• 9:22
  today
• 9:22
  we're
• 9:22
  talking
• 9:23
  to
• 9:23
  Jesse
• 9:24
  Vincent,
• 9:24
  who
• 9:25
  is
• 9:25
  the
• 9:25
  creator
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  Prime
• 9:26
  Radiant,
• 9:27
  which
• 9:27
  is
• 9:27
  an
• 9:27
  AI
• 9:28
  research
• 9:28
  lab,
• 9:28
  as
• 9:29
  well
• 9:29
  as
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  creator
• 9:30
  of
• 9:30
  superpowers,
• 9:31
  which
• 9:31
  I'm
• 9:31
  very
• 9:31
  excited
• 9:32
  to
• 9:32
  talk
• 9:32
  about.
• 9:32
  It's
• 9:32
  a
• 9:33
  tool
• 9:33
  I
• 9:33
  use
• 9:33
  every
• 9:33
  day.
• 9:34
  Welcome,
• 9:34
  Jesse.
• 9:35
  Hi.
• 9:35
  Thanks
• 9:35
  so
• 9:36
  much
• 9:36
  for
• 9:36
  having
• 9:36
  me.
• 9:37
  Thanks
• 9:37
  for
• 9:37
  coming.
• 9:38
  Jesse
• 9:39
  and
• 9:39
  I
• 9:39
  were
• 9:40
  actually
• 9:40
  roommates
• 9:41
  when
• 9:41
  we
• 9:42
  went
• 9:42
  through
• 9:42
  a
• 9:42
  hardware
• 9:43
  accelerator
• 9:43
  in
• 9:44
  San
• 9:44
  Francisco
• 9:45
  called
• 9:45
  Highway
• 9:45
  1.
• 9:46
  Wait,
• 9:46
  I
• 9:46
  didn't
• 9:46
  know
• 9:46
  that.
• 9:47
  With
• 9:47
  10
• 9:48
  other
• 9:48
  adults
• 9:49
  in
• 9:50
  an
• 9:50
  apartment
• 9:50
  that
• 9:51
  was
• 9:51
  definitely
• 9:51
  not
• 9:52
  zoned
• 9:52
  for
• 9:52
  an
• 9:52
  apartment.
• 9:53
  It
• 9:53
  was
• 9:53
  like
• 9:53
  a
• 9:53
  garage.
• 9:54
  It
• 9:55
  was
• 9:55
  pretty
• 9:55
  crazy.
• 9:56
  It
• 9:56
  was
• 9:56
  a
• 9:56
  converted
• 9:57
  warehouse
• 9:57
  space
• 9:57
  directly
• 9:58
  above
• 9:58
  a
• 9:58
  commercial
• 9:59
  glass
• 9:59
  workshop,
• 10:00
  which
• 10:00
  was
• 10:00
  a
• 10:01
  whole
• 10:01
  thing.
• 10:01
  Yeah,
• 10:02
  it
• 10:02
  was
• 10:02
  great.
• 10:03
  How
• 10:03
  like
• 10:04
  startup
• 10:04
  y
• 10:04
  of
• 10:05
  you
• 10:05
  guys.
• 10:05
  It
• 10:06
  was
• 10:06
  very
• 10:06
  early
• 10:07
  stage
• 10:07
  hardware.
• 10:07
  Startupy.
• 10:08
  Yeah.
• 10:09
  I
• 10:09
  was
• 10:09
  excited
• 10:09
  that
• 10:10
  Jesse
• 10:10
  said
• 10:11
  he
• 10:11
  would
• 10:11
  come
• 10:11
  talk
• 10:11
  on
• 10:11
  KS
• 10:12
  agents.
• 10:12
  I
• 10:12
  use
• 10:12
  superpowers
• 10:13
  every
• 10:13
  day
• 10:14
  in
• 10:14
  my
• 10:15
  workflow.
• 10:16
  I
• 10:16
  use
• 10:16
  superpowers
• 10:17
  with
• 10:17
  Claude.
• 10:18
  You
• 10:18
  can
• 10:18
  now
• 10:18
  use
• 10:18
  it
• 10:19
  with
• 10:19
  several
• 10:19
  coding
• 10:20
  agents.
• 10:21
  Jesse,
• 10:21
  do
• 10:21
  you
• 10:21
  want
• 10:22
  to
• 10:22
  describe
• 10:22
  it?
• 10:23
  Do
• 10:23
  you
• 10:23
  want
• 10:23
  me
• 10:23
  to
• 10:23
  describe
• 10:24
  it?
• 10:24
  I'm
• 10:24
  happy
• 10:25
  to
• 10:25
  take
• 10:25
  a
• 10:25
  swing
• 10:25
  at
• 10:26
  it.
• 10:26
  So
• 10:27
  superpowers
• 10:28
  started
• 10:28
  off
• 10:29
  as
• 10:30
  last
• 10:30
  October,
• 10:31
  me
• 10:31
  packaging
• 10:32
  up
• 10:32
  how
• 10:33
  I
• 10:33
  had
• 10:33
  been
• 10:34
  doing
• 10:34
  agentic
• 10:35
  dev
• 10:36
  into
• 10:37
  these
• 10:37
  things
• 10:37
  called
• 10:37
  skills
• 10:38
  when
• 10:39
  I
• 10:39
  accidentally
• 10:39
  front
• 10:40
  ran
• 10:40
  anthropic
• 10:41
  by
• 10:41
  about
• 10:41
  two
• 10:41
  Weeks
• 10:41
  on
• 10:42
  skills
• 10:42
  for
• 10:42
  Claude
• 10:43
  code.
• 10:43
  And
• 10:44
  so
• 10:44
  the
• 10:44
  first
• 10:45
  part
• 10:45
  of
• 10:45
  it
• 10:45
  is,
• 10:45
  it's
• 10:45
  called
• 10:45
  brainstorming.
• 10:47
  And
• 10:47
  the
• 10:47
  idea
• 10:48
  behind
• 10:48
  brainstorming
• 10:49
  is
• 10:49
  if
• 10:49
  you
• 10:49
  open
• 10:50
  up
• 10:50
  your
• 10:50
  coding
• 10:50
  agent
• 10:51
  and
• 10:51
  you
• 10:51
  say
• 10:51
  something
• 10:51
  like,
• 10:52
  let's
• 10:52
  make
• 10:52
  a
• 10:52
  react
• 10:52
  to
• 10:53
  do
• 10:53
  list
• 10:54
  without
• 10:54
  superpowers,
• 10:55
  it
• 10:55
  will
• 10:55
  just
• 10:55
  go
• 10:55
  make
• 10:56
  a
• 10:56
  react
• 10:56
  to
• 10:56
  do
• 10:56
  list
• 10:57
  without
• 10:57
  asking
• 10:57
  you
• 10:57
  anything
• 10:58
  else.
• 10:58
  With
• 10:58
  superpowers
• 10:59
  it
• 10:59
  will
• 10:59
  stop
• 11:00
  and
• 11:01
  say,
• 11:01
  hang
• 11:01
  on,
• 11:02
  hang
• 11:02
  on.
• 11:02
  What
• 11:03
  are
• 11:03
  you
• 11:03
  actually
• 11:03
  trying
• 11:03
  to
• 11:03
  do?
• 11:04
  Why
• 11:04
  do
• 11:04
  you
• 11:04
  want
• 11:04
  to
• 11:05
  make
• 11:05
  another
• 11:05
  to
• 11:05
  do
• 11:05
  list?
• 11:06
  Let's
• 11:06
  talk
• 11:06
  through
• 11:07
  what
• 11:07
  you're
• 11:08
  really
• 11:08
  trying
• 11:08
  to
• 11:08
  do
• 11:08
  here.
• 11:09
  Ten
• 11:09
  years
• 11:10
  of
• 11:10
  my
• 11:10
  consulting
• 11:10
  career
• 11:11
  was
• 11:11
  learning
• 11:12
  to
• 11:12
  do
• 11:12
  that
• 11:12
  for
• 11:13
  Fortune
• 11:13
  50
• 11:13
  customers
• 11:14
  in
• 11:14
  a
• 11:15
  way
• 11:15
  that
• 11:15
  they
• 11:15
  could
• 11:15
  hear
• 11:16
  on
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  other
• 11:16
  side.
• 11:17
  It
• 11:17
  then
• 11:17
  turns
• 11:18
  around
• 11:18
  and
• 11:18
  takes
• 11:19
  that
• 11:19
  plan
• 11:20
  and,
• 11:20
  and
• 11:20
  turns
• 11:20
  it
• 11:20
  into
• 11:21
  a
• 11:21
  series
• 11:21
  of
• 11:21
  tiny
• 11:22
  little
• 11:22
  five
• 11:22
  minute
• 11:23
  tasks
• 11:23
  that
• 11:23
  are
• 11:24
  full,
• 11:24
  red,
• 11:25
  green,
• 11:25
  test
• 11:25
  driven
• 11:26
  development
• 11:27
  that
• 11:27
  are
• 11:28
  so
• 11:28
  simple
• 11:29
  that
• 11:29
  nobody
• 11:29
  could
• 11:30
  possibly
• 11:30
  screw
• 11:30
  them
• 11:30
  up.
• 11:31
  And
• 11:31
  then
• 11:31
  it
• 11:31
  runs
• 11:32
  them
• 11:32
  with
• 11:32
  what
• 11:32
  I
• 11:32
  call
• 11:33
  subagent
• 11:33
  driven
• 11:33
  development
• 11:34
  where
• 11:34
  it
• 11:35
  will
• 11:35
  fire
• 11:36
  off
• 11:36
  a
• 11:36
  sub
• 11:36
  agent
• 11:37
  to
• 11:37
  do
• 11:37
  the
• 11:37
  implementation
• 11:38
  task.
• 11:38
  And
• 11:39
  then
• 11:39
  it
• 11:39
  fires
• 11:39
  up
• 11:39
  a
• 11:39
  spec
• 11:40
  review
• 11:40
  sub
• 11:40
  agent
• 11:41
  that
• 11:41
  looks
• 11:42
  at
• 11:42
  that
• 11:42
  work
• 11:42
  and
• 11:43
  asks
• 11:44
  it
• 11:44
  did
• 11:45
  this
• 11:46
  implement
• 11:46
  everything
• 11:47
  that
• 11:47
  was
• 11:47
  in
• 11:47
  that
• 11:47
  chunk
• 11:47
  of
• 11:47
  the
• 11:48
  spec
• 11:48
  and
• 11:48
  nothing
• 11:49
  else.
• 11:50
  And
• 11:50
  if
• 11:50
  the
• 11:51
  spec
• 11:51
  reviewer
• 11:52
  doesn't
• 11:52
  say
• 11:53
  that
• 11:53
  it
• 11:53
  looks
• 11:53
  clean,
• 11:54
  it
• 11:54
  takes
• 11:54
  that
• 11:55
  feedback,
• 11:55
  hands
• 11:55
  it
• 11:55
  right
• 11:55
  back
• 11:56
  to
• 11:56
  that
• 11:56
  implementing
• 11:57
  agent
• 11:57
  and
• 11:57
  says,
• 11:58
  try
• 11:58
  again.
• 11:59
  And
• 11:59
  at
• 11:59
  the
• 11:59
  end
• 11:59
  it
• 11:59
  fires
• 12:00
  up
• 12:00
  a
• 12:00
  clean,
• 12:00
  brand
• 12:01
  new
• 12:01
  spec
• 12:01
  review
• 12:01
  sub
• 12:01
  agent
• 12:02
  and
• 12:02
  does
• 12:02
  the
• 12:02
  same
• 12:02
  thing
• 12:03
  until
• 12:03
  the
• 12:03
  spec
• 12:04
  review
• 12:04
  subagent
• 12:04
  is
• 12:05
  happy.
• 12:06
  Then
• 12:06
  it
• 12:06
  does
• 12:06
  the
• 12:07
  same
• 12:07
  thing
• 12:07
  with
• 12:07
  a
• 12:07
  code
• 12:07
  review
• 12:08
  sub
• 12:08
  agent
• 12:08
  saying,
• 12:09
  is
• 12:09
  this
• 12:09
  garbage
• 12:10
  code
• 12:10
  or
• 12:10
  not?
• 12:12
  It
• 12:12
  does
• 12:12
  that
• 12:12
  loop
• 12:13
  until
• 12:13
  a
• 12:13
  brand
• 12:13
  new
• 12:13
  code
• 12:14
  review
• 12:14
  subagent
• 12:14
  says,
• 12:14
  oh
• 12:15
  yeah,
• 12:15
  it
• 12:15
  looks
• 12:15
  great.
• 12:16
  And
• 12:16
  then
• 12:16
  it
• 12:16
  continues
• 12:16
  onward.
• 12:17
  And
• 12:17
  so
• 12:18
  this
• 12:18
  is
• 12:19
  basically
• 12:19
  me
• 12:20
  automating
• 12:21
  my
• 12:21
  Agentix
• 12:22
  software
• 12:22
  dev
• 12:23
  methodology
• 12:24
  that
• 12:24
  let
• 12:24
  me
• 12:25
  build
• 12:25
  stuff
• 12:26
  quickly
• 12:26
  without
• 12:27
  me
• 12:27
  having
• 12:27
  to
• 12:27
  think
• 12:28
  about
• 12:28
  it.
• 12:29
  And
• 12:30
  that's
• 12:30
  the
• 12:31
  core
• 12:31
  of
• 12:31
  what
• 12:31
  Superpowers
• 12:32
  is.
• 12:32
  There's
• 12:32
  also
• 12:32
  a
• 12:33
  skill
• 12:33
  development
• 12:33
  workflow
• 12:34
  in
• 12:34
  there
• 12:34
  that
• 12:34
  uses
• 12:35
  the
• 12:35
  same
• 12:36
  set
• 12:36
  of
• 12:36
  techniques
• 12:37
  to
• 12:37
  build
• 12:37
  agentic
• 12:38
  skills
• 12:38
  and
• 12:38
  then
• 12:38
  to
• 12:39
  pressure
• 12:39
  test
• 12:39
  them
• 12:39
  against
• 12:40
  other
• 12:40
  agents.
• 12:41
  Basically
• 12:41
  putting
• 12:42
  those
• 12:42
  agents
• 12:42
  in
• 12:42
  weird
• 12:43
  pressure
• 12:43
  scenarios
• 12:44
  and
• 12:45
  asking
• 12:45
  them
• 12:45
  to
• 12:45
  do
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  thing
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  skill
• 12:46
  says
• 12:47
  they
• 12:47
  should
• 12:47
  do.
• 12:48
  And
• 12:48
  anytime
• 12:48
  they
• 12:49
  deviate
• 12:50
  from
• 12:50
  the
• 12:50
  skill,
• 12:50
  it
• 12:50
  says,
• 12:50
  hey,
• 12:51
  why
• 12:51
  did
• 12:51
  you
• 12:51
  do
• 12:52
  that?
• 12:52
  And
• 12:53
  the
• 12:53
  agent
• 12:53
  will
• 12:53
  rationalize
• 12:54
  like,
• 12:54
  you
• 12:54
  know,
• 12:55
  it
• 12:55
  seemed
• 12:55
  like
• 12:55
  a
• 12:55
  good
• 12:55
  idea
• 12:56
  because
• 12:56
  da
• 12:56
  da,
• 12:56
  da,
• 12:56
  da.
• 12:57
  And
• 12:57
  then
• 12:57
  it
• 12:57
  goes
• 12:57
  and
• 12:58
  updates
• 12:58
  the
• 12:58
  skill
• 12:58
  so
• 12:59
  that
• 12:59
  the
• 12:59
  agent
• 12:59
  can't
• 12:59
  possibly
• 13:00
  use
• 13:00
  that
• 13:00
  excuse
• 13:00
  next
• 13:01
  time.
• 13:01
  And
• 13:01
  it
• 13:02
  iterates
• 13:02
  on
• 13:02
  that
• 13:02
  to
• 13:03
  build
• 13:03
  bulletproof
• 13:04
  skills.
• 13:04
  You
• 13:05
  know
• 13:05
  what's
• 13:05
  interesting
• 13:06
  to
• 13:06
  me
• 13:06
  about
• 13:06
  this,
• 13:07
  particularly
• 13:07
  for
• 13:07
  both
• 13:08
  of
• 13:08
  you,
• 13:08
  because
• 13:08
  both
• 13:08
  of
• 13:09
  you
• 13:09
  are
• 13:09
  engineers
• 13:10
  with
• 13:11
  lots
• 13:11
  of
• 13:11
  experience
• 13:12
  writing
• 13:12
  your
• 13:12
  own
• 13:12
  code
• 13:13
  and
• 13:13
  building
• 13:14
  product.
• 13:15
  And
• 13:15
  what
• 13:15
  you're
• 13:15
  describing,
• 13:16
  it
• 13:17
  just
• 13:17
  reminds
• 13:18
  me
• 13:18
  a
• 13:18
  lot
• 13:18
  of
• 13:19
  like
• 13:20
  pre
• 13:20
  AI,
• 13:21
  you
• 13:21
  know,
• 13:21
  product
• 13:22
  development
• 13:22
  process
• 13:23
  of
• 13:23
  like
• 13:23
  stakeholder
• 13:24
  comes
• 13:25
  to
• 13:25
  pm,
• 13:26
  we
• 13:26
  want
• 13:26
  to
• 13:26
  build
• 13:27
  this.
• 13:27
  PM
• 13:27
  goes
• 13:28
  to
• 13:28
  dev
• 13:28
  team.
• 13:29
  This
• 13:29
  is
• 13:29
  what
• 13:29
  we
• 13:29
  should
• 13:30
  build.
• 13:30
  Instead
• 13:31
  of
• 13:31
  the
• 13:31
  team
• 13:32
  just
• 13:32
  being
• 13:33
  like,
• 13:33
  great,
• 13:34
  we'll
• 13:34
  put
• 13:34
  this
• 13:34
  button
• 13:34
  here
• 13:35
  and
• 13:35
  we'll
• 13:35
  do
• 13:35
  this
• 13:35
  here
• 13:35
  and
• 13:36
  we'll
• 13:36
  do
• 13:36
  this.
• 13:37
  It's
• 13:37
  like
• 13:37
  a
• 13:37
  disciplined
• 13:38
  process
• 13:38
  of
• 13:39
  being
• 13:39
  like,
• 13:39
  okay,
• 13:40
  well,
• 13:40
  let's
• 13:41
  talk
• 13:41
  this
• 13:41
  through.
• 13:41
  Let's
• 13:42
  hang
• 13:42
  on
• 13:42
  a
• 13:42
  second.
• 13:43
  And
• 13:43
  what's
• 13:43
  interesting
• 13:44
  to
• 13:44
  me
• 13:44
  about
• 13:44
  that
• 13:44
  is
• 13:45
  when
• 13:45
  I
• 13:45
  have
• 13:45
  thought
• 13:46
  about
• 13:46
  this
• 13:46
  in
• 13:47
  the
• 13:47
  context
• 13:47
  of
• 13:48
  coding
• 13:49
  agents,
• 13:50
  I've
• 13:50
  thought
• 13:50
  about
• 13:50
  it
• 13:51
  more
• 13:52
  from
• 13:52
  that
• 13:53
  non
• 13:54
  technical
• 13:54
  or
• 13:55
  technical
• 13:55
  ish
• 13:55
  person's
• 13:56
  perspective
• 13:56
  of
• 13:56
  like,
• 13:57
  you
• 13:57
  need
• 13:57
  guardrails.
• 13:58
  Yes.
• 13:58
  You
• 13:58
  can
• 13:58
  go
• 13:59
  in
• 13:59
  there
• 13:59
  and
• 13:59
  say,
• 13:59
  build
• 14:00
  these
• 14:00
  things
• 14:00
  and
• 14:00
  like,
• 14:01
  it
• 14:01
  can
• 14:01
  build
• 14:01
  that,
• 14:01
  but
• 14:01
  it's
• 14:02
  probably
• 14:02
  gonna
• 14:02
  be
• 14:03
  half
• 14:03
  shit.
• 14:04
  But,
• 14:04
  like,
• 14:04
  engineers
• 14:05
  don't
• 14:05
  need
• 14:06
  that.
• 14:06
  And
• 14:06
  it's
• 14:06
  like
• 14:06
  you're
• 14:07
  basically
• 14:08
  saying,
• 14:09
  like,
• 14:09
  we
• 14:10
  are
• 14:10
  implementing
• 14:11
  our
• 14:11
  own
• 14:11
  best
• 14:11
  practices
• 14:12
  of
• 14:12
  like,
• 14:13
  discipline
• 14:13
  into
• 14:14
  our
• 14:14
  building
• 14:15
  process,
• 14:15
  both
• 14:15
  of
• 14:16
  you.
• 14:16
  It
• 14:16
  turns
• 14:17
  out
• 14:17
  that
• 14:17
  process
• 14:18
  and
• 14:18
  management
• 14:19
  actually
• 14:19
  matter
• 14:20
  and
• 14:20
  they've
• 14:20
  always
• 14:20
  mattered.
• 14:21
  And
• 14:22
  agents
• 14:22
  are
• 14:22
  a
• 14:22
  lot
• 14:23
  like
• 14:23
  people,
• 14:23
  you
• 14:23
  know,
• 14:24
  I
• 14:24
  can
• 14:24
  talk
• 14:24
  about
• 14:24
  the.
• 14:25
  You
• 14:25
  know,
• 14:25
  the
• 14:25
  first
• 14:25
  time
• 14:25
  I
• 14:26
  did
• 14:27
  what
• 14:27
  feels
• 14:27
  a
• 14:27
  lot
• 14:27
  like
• 14:27
  agentic
• 14:28
  dev,
• 14:28
  and
• 14:28
  it
• 14:28
  was
• 14:29
  like
• 14:29
  2002,
• 14:30
  and
• 14:30
  it
• 14:30
  was
• 14:30
  the
• 14:30
  first
• 14:30
  time
• 14:30
  I
• 14:30
  was
• 14:31
  managing
• 14:31
  interns.
• 14:32
  So
• 14:33
  my
• 14:33
  first
• 14:33
  company,
• 14:33
  Best
• 14:34
  Practical,
• 14:34
  makes
• 14:35
  a
• 14:35
  ticketing
• 14:35
  system,
• 14:36
  customer
• 14:36
  service
• 14:37
  help,
• 14:37
  desk
• 14:37
  ops.
• 14:38
  It's
• 14:38
  located
• 14:39
  in
• 14:39
  Somerville,
• 14:40
  Mass.
• 14:40
  Near
• 14:40
  Cambridge.
• 14:41
  And
• 14:41
  every
• 14:42
  summer
• 14:42
  we'd
• 14:42
  have
• 14:42
  MIT
• 14:43
  undergrad
• 14:43
  interns.
• 14:44
  And
• 14:44
  these
• 14:45
  kids
• 14:45
  were
• 14:46
  brilliant.
• 14:47
  They
• 14:47
  were
• 14:47
  usually
• 14:47
  green.
• 14:49
  Many
• 14:49
  of
• 14:49
  them
• 14:49
  had
• 14:50
  poor
• 14:51
  taste
• 14:51
  and
• 14:51
  no
• 14:51
  judgment.
• 14:52
  Some
• 14:53
  of
• 14:53
  them
• 14:53
  were
• 14:53
  virtuoso
• 14:54
  engineers.
• 14:55
  Some
• 14:56
  of
• 14:56
  them
• 14:56
  thought
• 14:56
  they
• 14:56
  were
• 14:57
  God's
• 14:57
  gift
• 14:57
  to
• 14:58
  software
• 14:58
  engineering.
• 14:59
  They
• 14:59
  were
• 14:59
  all
• 14:59
  very
• 15:00
  enthusiastic,
• 15:00
  they
• 15:01
  were
• 15:01
  all
• 15:01
  very
• 15:01
  friendly,
• 15:01
  they
• 15:01
  were
• 15:02
  all
• 15:02
  very
• 15:02
  helpful.
• 15:02
  I
• 15:03
  was
• 15:03
  managing
• 15:04
  them
• 15:04
  through
• 15:04
  irc,
• 15:05
  and
• 15:05
  they
• 15:06
  were
• 15:06
  all
• 15:07
  working
• 15:07
  and
• 15:08
  playing
• 15:08
  so
• 15:08
  hard
• 15:09
  that
• 15:09
  they
• 15:09
  weren't
• 15:10
  sleeping,
• 15:10
  which
• 15:11
  meant
• 15:11
  they
• 15:11
  had
• 15:11
  trouble
• 15:11
  with
• 15:11
  memory
• 15:12
  formation
• 15:12
  and
• 15:13
  might
• 15:14
  sound
• 15:14
  like
• 15:14
  our
• 15:14
  friend
• 15:14
  Claude
• 15:15
  and
• 15:15
  our
• 15:16
  friend
• 15:16
  open
• 15:16
  code
• 15:16
  and
• 15:16
  our
• 15:17
  friend
• 15:17
  Codex.
• 15:18
  And
• 15:18
  the
• 15:19
  weird
• 15:19
  thing
• 15:19
  is,
• 15:19
  in
• 15:19
  the
• 15:19
  beginning,
• 15:20
  I
• 15:20
  would
• 15:20
  come
• 15:20
  home
• 15:21
  at
• 15:21
  the
• 15:21
  end
• 15:21
  of
• 15:21
  the
• 15:21
  day
• 15:22
  and
• 15:22
  feel
• 15:23
  like
• 15:23
  I
• 15:23
  hadn't
• 15:23
  done
• 15:23
  anything
• 15:24
  because
• 15:24
  I
• 15:25
  had
• 15:25
  helped
• 15:25
  one
• 15:26
  person
• 15:26
  with
• 15:27
  some
• 15:27
  code
• 15:28
  review
• 15:28
  and
• 15:28
  helped
• 15:28
  somebody
• 15:29
  else
• 15:29
  with
• 15:29
  spec
• 15:30
  planning
• 15:31
  and
• 15:31
  walked
• 15:31
  somebody
• 15:32
  else
• 15:32
  through
• 15:32
  the
• 15:32
  fact
• 15:32
  that
• 15:33
  their
• 15:33
  tests
• 15:33
  were
• 15:33
  garbage
• 15:34
  and
• 15:35
  had
• 15:35
  talked
• 15:36
  to
• 15:36
  somebody
• 15:36
  about
• 15:36
  their
• 15:36
  feelings.
• 15:37
  And
• 15:38
  I
• 15:38
  was
• 15:38
  doing
• 15:38
  all
• 15:39
  of
• 15:39
  these
• 15:39
  things
• 15:39
  that
• 15:39
  were
• 15:40
  management,
• 15:41
  but
• 15:41
  before
• 15:42
  that,
• 15:42
  I
• 15:42
  had
• 15:42
  been
• 15:43
  just
• 15:43
  an
• 15:43
  IC
• 15:44
  coder
• 15:44
  and
• 15:45
  I'm
• 15:45
  mostly
• 15:45
  an
• 15:45
  indie
• 15:46
  coder.
• 15:46
  And
• 15:46
  so
• 15:47
  my
• 15:47
  metric
• 15:48
  for
• 15:48
  did
• 15:48
  I
• 15:49
  do
• 15:49
  something
• 15:49
  today?
• 15:49
  Was
• 15:50
  did
• 15:50
  I
• 15:50
  commit
• 15:51
  lots
• 15:51
  of
• 15:51
  code?
• 15:52
  And
• 15:52
  I
• 15:53
  was
• 15:53
  coming
• 15:53
  home
• 15:53
  and
• 15:53
  being
• 15:53
  like,
• 15:54
  I
• 15:54
  feel
• 15:55
  like
• 15:55
  I
• 15:55
  didn't
• 15:55
  do
• 15:55
  anything
• 15:56
  productive
• 15:56
  today
• 15:56
  because
• 15:57
  I
• 15:57
  was
• 15:57
  being
• 15:58
  a
• 15:58
  manager.
• 15:59
  And
• 15:59
  eventually
• 16:00
  I
• 16:00
  got
• 16:00
  over
• 16:00
  that.
• 16:01
  And
• 16:01
  as
• 16:01
  I
• 16:02
  learned
• 16:02
  to
• 16:02
  be
• 16:02
  a
• 16:02
  decent
• 16:02
  manager
• 16:03
  and
• 16:03
  I
• 16:04
  realized
• 16:04
  that
• 16:04
  the
• 16:04
  way
• 16:04
  you
• 16:04
  become
• 16:04
  a
• 16:04
  10x
• 16:05
  engineer
• 16:05
  is
• 16:05
  you
• 16:06
  help
• 16:06
  10
• 16:06
  engineers
• 16:06
  be
• 16:07
  effective.
• 16:07
  Yeah,
• 16:08
  yeah,
• 16:08
  yeah,
• 16:08
  that's
• 16:09
  great.
• 16:09
  But
• 16:10
  it's
• 16:10
  like,
• 16:10
  I
• 16:10
  understand
• 16:11
  what
• 16:11
  everybody
• 16:12
  who
• 16:12
  is
• 16:12
  currently
• 16:13
  picking
• 16:14
  up
• 16:14
  agentic
• 16:14
  dev
• 16:15
  and
• 16:15
  who
• 16:15
  has
• 16:16
  always
• 16:16
  believed
• 16:16
  that
• 16:16
  their
• 16:16
  job
• 16:17
  is
• 16:17
  lines
• 16:18
  of
• 16:18
  code
• 16:18
  or
• 16:19
  closing
• 16:19
  issues.
• 16:21
  And
• 16:22
  that's
• 16:22
  a
• 16:22
  really
• 16:22
  hard
• 16:23
  thing
• 16:23
  to
• 16:23
  get
• 16:23
  over.
• 16:24
  But
• 16:24
  I
• 16:24
  mean,
• 16:25
  you
• 16:25
  do
• 16:25
  get
• 16:25
  there
• 16:25
  and
• 16:25
  you,
• 16:26
  like,
• 16:26
  your
• 16:26
  job
• 16:27
  is
• 16:27
  outcomes.
• 16:28
  Your
• 16:28
  job
• 16:28
  is
• 16:29
  helping
• 16:29
  people
• 16:30
  do
• 16:30
  stuff.
• 16:32
  And
• 16:32
  agents,
• 16:33
  I
• 16:33
  mean,
• 16:33
  it's
• 16:34
  like
• 16:34
  agents
• 16:34
  let
• 16:34
  you
• 16:35
  do
• 16:35
  that
• 16:35
  faster.
• 16:35
  They
• 16:36
  let
• 16:36
  you
• 16:36
  do
• 16:36
  more
• 16:36
  stuff.
• 16:38
  It
• 16:38
  is
• 16:38
  harder
• 16:39
  work
• 16:39
  because
• 16:39
  all
• 16:39
  you're
• 16:40
  doing
• 16:40
  is
• 16:40
  thinking
• 16:41
  and
• 16:41
  managing.
• 16:42
  It
• 16:42
  turns
• 16:42
  out
• 16:42
  that
• 16:42
  the
• 16:43
  part
• 16:43
  of
• 16:43
  coding
• 16:43
  that
• 16:43
  was
• 16:43
  the
• 16:44
  easy
• 16:44
  relaxing
• 16:45
  part
• 16:45
  was
• 16:46
  typing
• 16:46
  lines
• 16:47
  of
• 16:47
  code
• 16:47
  and
• 16:47
  thinking
• 16:47
  about
• 16:48
  how
• 16:48
  you
• 16:48
  make
• 16:48
  it
• 16:48
  beautiful.
• 16:49
  I
• 16:49
  know.
• 16:50
  I've
• 16:50
  been
• 16:50
  thinking,
• 16:51
  this
• 16:51
  is
• 16:51
  like
• 16:51
  really,
• 16:51
  EMS
• 16:52
  and
• 16:52
  PM's
• 16:53
  time
• 16:53
  to
• 16:53
  shine.
• 16:54
  Oh,
• 16:55
  yeah.
• 16:56
  What
• 16:56
  we've
• 16:56
  been
• 16:56
  doing
• 16:57
  for
• 16:57
  years.
• 16:58
  Oh,
• 16:58
  yeah.
• 16:58
  Like,
• 16:58
  a
• 16:59
  lot
• 16:59
  of
• 16:59
  the
• 16:59
  folks
• 16:59
  I
• 16:59
  know
• 17:00
  who
• 17:00
  are
• 17:00
  most
• 17:01
  effective
• 17:02
  with
• 17:02
  these
• 17:03
  tools
• 17:03
  are
• 17:04
  product
• 17:05
  managers,
• 17:06
  they
• 17:06
  are
• 17:07
  designers,
• 17:08
  they
• 17:09
  are
• 17:09
  architects,
• 17:10
  they're
• 17:11
  engineers
• 17:11
  who
• 17:11
  are
• 17:12
  too
• 17:12
  senior
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  code
• 17:13
  anymore.
• 17:14
  It's
• 17:14
  super
• 17:14
  cool
• 17:15
  to
• 17:15
  see
• 17:15
  all
• 17:15
  of
• 17:16
  these
• 17:16
  people
• 17:16
  who
• 17:16
  were
• 17:16
  previously
• 17:17
  gated
• 17:17
  on
• 17:18
  not
• 17:19
  knowing
• 17:20
  arcane
• 17:20
  syntax
• 17:22
  now
• 17:22
  able
• 17:22
  to
• 17:23
  build.
• 17:24
  Oh,
• 17:25
  my
• 17:25
  God.
• 17:25
  Amen.
• 17:25
  It's
• 17:26
  so
• 17:26
  nice
• 17:26
  to
• 17:26
  see.
• 17:27
  You
• 17:27
  mentioned
• 17:28
  when
• 17:28
  we
• 17:28
  were
• 17:28
  talking
• 17:28
  earlier
• 17:29
  that
• 17:29
  you've
• 17:30
  been
• 17:30
  thinking
• 17:30
  about
• 17:30
  how
• 17:31
  we're
• 17:31
  going
• 17:31
  to
• 17:31
  be
• 17:31
  coding
• 17:32
  in
• 17:32
  2028,
• 17:34
  number
• 17:34
  one.
• 17:34
  So
• 17:35
  we're
• 17:35
  still
• 17:35
  alive.
• 17:36
  You
• 17:36
  got
• 17:36
  to
• 17:37
  assume
• 17:37
  that
• 17:38
  we're
• 17:38
  still
• 17:38
  around.
• 17:38
  It
• 17:39
  is
• 17:39
  entirely
• 17:39
  possible
• 17:40
  that
• 17:40
  we're
• 17:40
  going
• 17:40
  to
• 17:40
  have
• 17:42
  Giant
• 17:42
  Meteor
• 17:42
  2027
• 17:43
  and
• 17:44
  it's
• 17:44
  all
• 17:44
  over.
• 17:45
  But
• 17:45
  assuming
• 17:46
  that
• 17:46
  we're
• 17:46
  still
• 17:46
  here,
• 17:47
  everything
• 17:47
  is
• 17:48
  going
• 17:48
  to
• 17:48
  continue
• 17:48
  to
• 17:48
  be
• 17:48
  different.
• 17:49
  AI
• 17:50
  is
• 17:50
  barely
• 17:50
  adopted
• 17:51
  by
• 17:51
  anyone
• 17:51
  at
• 17:51
  this
• 17:51
  point.
• 17:52
  The
• 17:52
  tools
• 17:53
  are
• 17:53
  the
• 17:53
  worst
• 17:54
  they're
• 17:54
  ever
• 17:54
  going
• 17:54
  to
• 17:54
  be
• 17:55
  right
• 17:55
  now.
• 17:55
  And
• 17:56
  the
• 17:56
  good
• 17:56
  tools
• 17:56
  have
• 17:57
  19
• 17:57
  of
• 17:57
  uptime.
• 17:58
  It
• 17:58
  can't
• 17:59
  get
• 17:59
  worse
• 17:59
  than
• 17:59
  this
• 18:00
  in
• 18:01
  terms
• 18:01
  of
• 18:01
  capability.
• 18:02
  And
• 18:03
  it
• 18:03
  is
• 18:03
  all
• 18:03
  so
• 18:04
  much
• 18:04
  better
• 18:04
  than
• 18:04
  it
• 18:05
  was
• 18:05
  six
• 18:05
  months
• 18:05
  ago.
• 18:06
  And
• 18:07
  I
• 18:07
  fundamentally
• 18:08
  don't
• 18:09
  believe
• 18:09
  that
• 18:09
  competent
• 18:10
  humans
• 18:10
  should
• 18:10
  be
• 18:10
  writing
• 18:11
  lines
• 18:11
  of
• 18:11
  syntax
• 18:11
  anymore.
• 18:13
  That's
• 18:13
  never
• 18:13
  been
• 18:13
  the
• 18:14
  job,
• 18:14
  and
• 18:15
  it's
• 18:15
  not
• 18:15
  the
• 18:15
  job
• 18:15
  now.
• 18:17
  But
• 18:17
  thinking
• 18:18
  about
• 18:19
  what
• 18:19
  we
• 18:19
  are
• 18:20
  going
• 18:20
  to
• 18:20
  be
• 18:20
  doing
• 18:21
  Taste
• 18:21
  continues
• 18:22
  to
• 18:22
  matter,
• 18:22
  judgment
• 18:23
  continues
• 18:24
  to
• 18:24
  matter.
• 18:25
  They're
• 18:25
  going
• 18:25
  to
• 18:25
  get
• 18:25
  better
• 18:25
  at
• 18:26
  architecture,
• 18:26
  they're
• 18:27
  going
• 18:27
  to
• 18:27
  get
• 18:27
  better
• 18:27
  at
• 18:27
  ux,
• 18:28
  they're
• 18:28
  going
• 18:29
  to
• 18:29
  get
• 18:29
  better
• 18:29
  at
• 18:29
  testing.
• 18:30
  But
• 18:31
  the
• 18:31
  thing
• 18:31
  they
• 18:31
  still
• 18:31
  need
• 18:32
  help
• 18:32
  with
• 18:32
  is
• 18:33
  understanding
• 18:33
  you
• 18:34
  and
• 18:34
  understanding
• 18:35
  what
• 18:35
  you
• 18:35
  want
• 18:35
  and
• 18:35
  what
• 18:35
  you
• 18:35
  need,
• 18:36
  and
• 18:37
  helping
• 18:37
  people
• 18:38
  communicate
• 18:38
  with
• 18:39
  what
• 18:39
  they
• 18:39
  want
• 18:39
  and
• 18:39
  what
• 18:39
  they
• 18:39
  need.
• 18:41
  It
• 18:41
  still
• 18:41
  takes
• 18:42
  real
• 18:42
  work,
• 18:43
  both
• 18:43
  on
• 18:43
  the
• 18:43
  part
• 18:43
  of
• 18:43
  the
• 18:44
  AI
• 18:44
  and
• 18:44
  on
• 18:44
  the
• 18:45
  part
• 18:45
  of
• 18:45
  the
• 18:45
  humans.
• 18:46
  You
• 18:46
  have
• 18:46
  to
• 18:46
  be
• 18:46
  willing
• 18:47
  to
• 18:47
  sit
• 18:47
  there
• 18:48
  and
• 18:48
  talk
• 18:48
  it
• 18:48
  through.
• 18:49
  And
• 18:49
  that's
• 18:50
  one
• 18:50
  of
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  things
• 18:50
  that
• 18:50
  makes
• 18:50
  superpowers
• 18:51
  work
• 18:51
  so
• 18:51
  well,
• 18:51
  is
• 18:52
  it
• 18:52
  makes
• 18:52
  you
• 18:52
  think
• 18:53
  and
• 18:53
  talk
• 18:53
  it
• 18:53
  through.
• 18:54
  So
• 18:55
  one
• 18:55
  of
• 18:55
  the
• 18:55
  things
• 18:55
  that
• 18:56
  Claude
• 18:56
  code
• 18:57
  added
• 18:57
  was
• 18:57
  this
• 18:57
  ask
• 18:58
  user
• 18:58
  question
• 18:58
  tool
• 18:59
  where
• 19:00
  instead
• 19:00
  of
• 19:01
  making
• 19:01
  you
• 19:01
  type,
• 19:02
  it
• 19:02
  gives
• 19:02
  you
• 19:03
  multiple
• 19:03
  choice
• 19:04
  answers.
• 19:04
  And
• 19:04
  when
• 19:05
  that
• 19:05
  first
• 19:05
  came
• 19:05
  out,
• 19:05
  it
• 19:06
  was
• 19:06
  super
• 19:06
  cool.
• 19:06
  I
• 19:07
  added
• 19:07
  it
• 19:07
  to
• 19:07
  Superpowers
• 19:08
  that
• 19:08
  day
• 19:09
  and,
• 19:09
  and
• 19:09
  over
• 19:09
  the
• 19:09
  course
• 19:09
  of
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  next
• 19:10
  three
• 19:10
  days
• 19:10
  found
• 19:10
  that
• 19:11
  anytime
• 19:11
  superpowers
• 19:12
  Brainstorming
• 19:13
  was
• 19:13
  interviewing
• 19:13
  me.
• 19:14
  I
• 19:14
  was
• 19:14
  just
• 19:14
  clicking,
• 19:14
  okay,
• 19:15
  okay,
• 19:16
  okay.
• 19:16
  And
• 19:17
  I
• 19:17
  wasn't
• 19:17
  thinking.
• 19:18
  And
• 19:18
  so
• 19:18
  I
• 19:18
  pulled
• 19:18
  it
• 19:19
  out.
• 19:19
  And
• 19:19
  we
• 19:19
  still
• 19:20
  get
• 19:20
  about
• 19:20
  one
• 19:20
  pull
• 19:20
  request
• 19:21
  a
• 19:21
  week
• 19:21
  of
• 19:21
  somebody
• 19:21
  being
• 19:21
  like,
• 19:22
  oh,
• 19:22
  you
• 19:22
  should
• 19:22
  put
• 19:22
  this
• 19:23
  feature.
• 19:23
  And
• 19:23
  I
• 19:23
  can't
• 19:23
  believe
• 19:23
  you're
• 19:24
  not
• 19:24
  using
• 19:24
  this
• 19:24
  cloud
• 19:24
  code
• 19:25
  feature.
• 19:25
  It's
• 19:26
  like,
• 19:26
  yeah,
• 19:26
  we're
• 19:26
  not
• 19:27
  using
• 19:27
  it
• 19:27
  for
• 19:27
  a
• 19:27
  reason.
• 19:28
  It's
• 19:28
  because
• 19:29
  it
• 19:29
  hurts
• 19:29
  you.
• 19:29
  It
• 19:30
  does
• 19:30
  not
• 19:30
  serve
• 19:30
  your
• 19:30
  interests
• 19:31
  most
• 19:31
  of
• 19:31
  the
• 19:31
  time.
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  think
• 19:32
  that
• 19:32
  what
• 19:32
  we're
• 19:33
  going
• 19:33
  to
• 19:33
  be
• 19:33
  seeing
• 19:33
  in
• 19:33
  2028
• 19:34
  is
• 19:35
  a
• 19:35
  lot
• 19:35
  more
• 19:36
  software.
• 19:36
  We
• 19:37
  talk
• 19:37
  about
• 19:37
  the
• 19:37
  long
• 19:37
  tail.
• 19:38
  I
• 19:38
  think
• 19:39
  everything
• 19:39
  is
• 19:39
  going
• 19:39
  to
• 19:39
  become
• 19:40
  the
• 19:40
  long
• 19:40
  tail.
• 19:41
  It
• 19:41
  is
• 19:41
  easier
• 19:42
  and
• 19:42
  easier
• 19:42
  to
• 19:43
  build
• 19:43
  bespoke
• 19:44
  software,
• 19:44
  to
• 19:45
  build
• 19:45
  exactly
• 19:45
  that
• 19:46
  software
• 19:46
  that
• 19:46
  you
• 19:46
  want
• 19:46
  and
• 19:47
  you
• 19:47
  need
• 19:47
  either
• 19:47
  for
• 19:47
  yourself
• 19:48
  or
• 19:48
  for
• 19:48
  your
• 19:48
  organization.
• 19:50
  If
• 19:50
  I
• 19:50
  were,
• 19:51
  you
• 19:51
  know,
• 19:51
  generic
• 19:52
  SaaS
• 19:52
  provider,
• 19:53
  the
• 19:53
  folks
• 19:53
  I
• 19:53
  know
• 19:53
  who
• 19:54
  run
• 19:54
  small
• 19:54
  SaaS
• 19:54
  companies
• 19:55
  are
• 19:55
  not
• 19:55
  happy
• 19:56
  folks
• 19:56
  right
• 19:56
  now.
• 19:56
  Everything
• 19:57
  is
• 19:57
  changing
• 19:57
  very
• 19:58
  fast.
• 19:58
  The
• 19:59
  long
• 19:59
  tail
• 19:59
  is
• 19:59
  going
• 19:59
  to
• 19:59
  get
• 20:00
  a
• 20:00
  lot
• 20:00
  longer
• 20:01
  and
• 20:01
  software
• 20:01
  is
• 20:01
  no
• 20:01
  longer
• 20:02
  remote.
• 20:03
  It
• 20:03
  is
• 20:03
  so
• 20:04
  easy
• 20:04
  to
• 20:05
  build
• 20:06
  a
• 20:06
  thing
• 20:06
  now,
• 20:06
  especially
• 20:07
  if
• 20:07
  it's
• 20:07
  a
• 20:07
  thing
• 20:08
  where
• 20:08
  you
• 20:08
  already
• 20:08
  have
• 20:08
  an
• 20:08
  example
• 20:09
  of
• 20:09
  it,
• 20:09
  that
• 20:11
  you
• 20:11
  can
• 20:11
  just
• 20:11
  make
• 20:12
  stuff.
• 20:12
  It's
• 20:13
  pretty
• 20:13
  wild.
• 20:14
  What
• 20:14
  are
• 20:14
  you
• 20:14
  seeing
• 20:14
  in
• 20:14
  the
• 20:14
  open
• 20:15
  source
• 20:15
  community
• 20:15
  that
• 20:15
  was
• 20:16
  different
• 20:16
  than
• 20:16
  it
• 20:16
  was?
• 20:17
  One
• 20:17
  of
• 20:17
  the
• 20:17
  things
• 20:17
  that
• 20:18
  is
• 20:18
  clear
• 20:19
  to
• 20:19
  me
• 20:19
  is
• 20:19
  that
• 20:20
  specs
• 20:20
  and
• 20:21
  tests
• 20:21
  are
• 20:22
  almost
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  only
• 20:23
  important
• 20:23
  artifacts
• 20:24
  anymore.
• 20:24
  It
• 20:25
  is
• 20:25
  if
• 20:25
  you've
• 20:26
  got
• 20:26
  good
• 20:26
  tests
• 20:26
  and
• 20:26
  good
• 20:27
  specs,
• 20:27
  you
• 20:27
  can
• 20:27
  generate
• 20:28
  code.
• 20:28
  There's
• 20:29
  a
• 20:29
  bunch
• 20:29
  of
• 20:29
  controversy
• 20:29
  around
• 20:30
  license
• 20:30
  washing,
• 20:31
  where
• 20:31
  people
• 20:31
  are
• 20:31
  claiming
• 20:32
  that
• 20:32
  they
• 20:32
  are
• 20:32
  clean
• 20:32
  rooming
• 20:33
  a
• 20:33
  software
• 20:34
  package
• 20:34
  into
• 20:35
  another
• 20:35
  implementation
• 20:36
  and
• 20:36
  using
• 20:37
  the
• 20:37
  tests
• 20:37
  to
• 20:37
  verify.
• 20:38
  I
• 20:39
  Am
• 20:39
  less
• 20:39
  worried
• 20:40
  about
• 20:40
  that.
• 20:41
  The
• 20:41
  thing
• 20:41
  about
• 20:42
  open
• 20:42
  source
• 20:42
  is
• 20:43
  there
• 20:44
  are
• 20:44
  a
• 20:44
  lot
• 20:44
  of
• 20:44
  issues
• 20:45
  around
• 20:46
  taking
• 20:46
  someone
• 20:46
  else's
• 20:47
  thing,
• 20:47
  rubbing
• 20:47
  the
• 20:48
  name
• 20:48
  off,
• 20:48
  translating
• 20:49
  it
• 20:49
  into
• 20:49
  another
• 20:49
  language
• 20:49
  and
• 20:50
  shipping
• 20:50
  it.
• 20:50
  And
• 20:50
  I
• 20:50
  don't
• 20:51
  want
• 20:51
  to
• 20:51
  minimize
• 20:51
  those
• 20:52
  in
• 20:52
  any
• 20:52
  way,
• 20:52
  shape
• 20:52
  or
• 20:52
  form.
• 20:53
  But
• 20:54
  more
• 20:55
  and
• 20:55
  more
• 20:55
  what
• 20:55
  I'm
• 20:55
  finding
• 20:56
  is
• 20:56
  that
• 20:56
  it's
• 20:57
  the
• 20:57
  ideas
• 20:57
  that
• 20:58
  matter.
• 20:58
  And
• 20:58
  sharing
• 20:59
  the
• 20:59
  ideas,
• 21:00
  sharing
• 21:01
  the
• 21:01
  hard
• 21:01
  won
• 21:01
  lessons,
• 21:02
  making
• 21:03
  it
• 21:03
  really
• 21:03
  easy
• 21:04
  to
• 21:05
  build
• 21:05
  and
• 21:05
  share
• 21:06
  code
• 21:06
  and
• 21:07
  making
• 21:08
  sure
• 21:08
  that
• 21:08
  things
• 21:08
  aren't
• 21:09
  locked
• 21:09
  up
• 21:09
  has
• 21:09
  usually
• 21:10
  been
• 21:10
  part
• 21:10
  of
• 21:10
  what's
• 21:11
  most
• 21:11
  important.
• 21:12
  Copyleft
• 21:13
  stuff
• 21:13
  is
• 21:13
  more
• 21:13
  complicated,
• 21:14
  but
• 21:14
  increasingly
• 21:15
  folks
• 21:15
  have
• 21:16
  leaned
• 21:16
  into
• 21:16
  things
• 21:16
  like
• 21:17
  the
• 21:17
  Apache
• 21:17
  license
• 21:18
  or
• 21:18
  the
• 21:18
  MIT
• 21:19
  license
• 21:20
  where
• 21:20
  there
• 21:21
  really
• 21:21
  are
• 21:21
  not
• 21:22
  significant
• 21:23
  limits
• 21:24
  on
• 21:24
  what
• 21:24
  you
• 21:24
  can
• 21:25
  do
• 21:25
  with
• 21:25
  the
• 21:25
  code.
• 21:26
  And
• 21:26
  so
• 21:26
  in
• 21:27
  those
• 21:27
  cases,
• 21:28
  the
• 21:28
  license
• 21:28
  stuff
• 21:29
  is
• 21:29
  not
• 21:29
  a
• 21:29
  huge
• 21:29
  deal
• 21:29
  to
• 21:29
  me.
• 21:30
  One
• 21:31
  of
• 21:31
  the
• 21:31
  things
• 21:31
  I
• 21:31
  am
• 21:31
  running
• 21:32
  into
• 21:32
  is
• 21:32
  slop
• 21:33
  PRs
• 21:34
  with
• 21:34
  a
• 21:34
  popular
• 21:35
  open
• 21:36
  source
• 21:36
  project,
• 21:37
  especially
• 21:37
  one
• 21:38
  that
• 21:38
  is
• 21:39
  written
• 21:39
  in
• 21:39
  prose.
• 21:40
  And
• 21:40
  so
• 21:40
  it's
• 21:41
  not
• 21:41
  something
• 21:41
  where
• 21:42
  you
• 21:43
  can
• 21:43
  easily
• 21:43
  validate
• 21:44
  that
• 21:44
  the
• 21:44
  test
• 21:44
  suite
• 21:44
  fixes
• 21:45
  it.
• 21:45
  The
• 21:46
  amount
• 21:46
  of
• 21:46
  agentic
• 21:47
  garbage
• 21:48
  pull
• 21:48
  request
• 21:48
  that
• 21:49
  we
• 21:49
  get
• 21:49
  is
• 21:50
  astonishing.
• 21:51
  I
• 21:51
  mean,
• 21:51
  it's
• 21:51
  unsurprising,
• 21:52
  but
• 21:52
  also
• 21:52
  astonishing
• 21:52
  to
• 21:53
  me.
• 21:53
  And
• 21:54
  so
• 21:54
  I've
• 21:54
  been
• 21:54
  sort
• 21:54
  of
• 21:54
  trying
• 21:55
  to
• 21:55
  figure
• 21:55
  out
• 21:56
  how
• 21:56
  we
• 21:57
  manage
• 21:57
  and
• 21:57
  fight
• 21:58
  that.
• 21:58
  I
• 21:58
  have
• 21:58
  a
• 21:58
  quick
• 21:59
  question
• 21:59
  about
• 21:59
  that.
• 21:59
  I've,
• 22:00
  I've,
• 22:00
  I've
• 22:00
  never
• 22:00
  managed
• 22:01
  an
• 22:01
  open
• 22:01
  source
• 22:01
  project
• 22:02
  before.
• 22:03
  How
• 22:03
  do
• 22:03
  you
• 22:03
  balance
• 22:04
  this
• 22:04
  openness
• 22:05
  and
• 22:05
  ability
• 22:06
  for
• 22:06
  lots
• 22:06
  of
• 22:07
  people
• 22:07
  to
• 22:07
  contribute
• 22:08
  and
• 22:09
  not
• 22:09
  having
• 22:09
  the
• 22:09
  noise
• 22:10
  of
• 22:10
  like
• 22:11
  you
• 22:11
  were
• 22:11
  saying,
• 22:11
  like
• 22:11
  slop
• 22:12
  PRs
• 22:12
  be
• 22:13
  so
• 22:13
  much
• 22:13
  that
• 22:13
  it's
• 22:14
  just
• 22:14
  like
• 22:14
  not
• 22:15
  feasible
• 22:16
  to
• 22:16
  do
• 22:16
  things
• 22:17
  that
• 22:17
  way.
• 22:18
  So
• 22:19
  contributor
• 22:19
  management
• 22:19
  has
• 22:20
  always
• 22:20
  been
• 22:20
  tricky.
• 22:21
  The
• 22:21
  problem
• 22:21
  used
• 22:22
  to
• 22:22
  be
• 22:22
  that
• 22:22
  you
• 22:22
  would
• 22:22
  have
• 22:23
  somebody
• 22:23
  show
• 22:23
  up
• 22:23
  with
• 22:24
  a
• 22:24
  bad
• 22:24
  idea
• 22:25
  that
• 22:25
  they
• 22:25
  had
• 22:25
  invested
• 22:27
  dozens
• 22:27
  or
• 22:27
  hundreds
• 22:28
  of
• 22:28
  hours
• 22:28
  in
• 22:29
  building
• 22:30
  this
• 22:30
  thing.
• 22:30
  That
• 22:31
  was
• 22:32
  crazy
• 22:32
  and
• 22:32
  garbage
• 22:34
  and
• 22:34
  it
• 22:35
  was
• 22:35
  a
• 22:35
  lot
• 22:35
  of
• 22:35
  interpersonal
• 22:36
  people
• 22:37
  management
• 22:37
  stuff.
• 22:38
  And
• 22:39
  that
• 22:39
  is
• 22:39
  a
• 22:40
  hard
• 22:40
  and
• 22:40
  important
• 22:40
  thing
• 22:40
  to
• 22:41
  do.
• 22:42
  What
• 22:42
  we've
• 22:42
  got
• 22:42
  now
• 22:43
  is
• 22:43
  like
• 22:43
  drive
• 22:44
  by.
• 22:45
  It
• 22:45
  used
• 22:45
  to
• 22:45
  be
• 22:45
  like
• 22:46
  someone
• 22:46
  could
• 22:46
  crochet
• 22:47
  you
• 22:47
  like
• 22:47
  the
• 22:47
  ugliest
• 22:48
  blanket
• 22:48
  and
• 22:49
  like
• 22:49
  come
• 22:49
  give
• 22:49
  it
• 22:49
  to
• 22:50
  you.
• 22:50
  And
• 22:50
  you'd
• 22:50
  be
• 22:50
  like,
• 22:51
  yeah,
• 22:52
  no
• 22:52
  thank
• 22:53
  you.
• 22:54
  This
• 22:54
  is
• 22:54
  really
• 22:55
  nice,
• 22:55
  but
• 22:56
  no
• 22:56
  thank
• 22:56
  you.
• 22:56
  That
• 22:57
  was
• 22:57
  very
• 22:57
  kind
• 22:58
  of
• 22:58
  you.
• 22:58
  I'm
• 22:58
  going
• 22:58
  to
• 22:59
  go
• 22:59
  put
• 23:00
  it
• 23:00
  in
• 23:00
  the
• 23:00
  back
• 23:00
  of
• 23:00
  the
• 23:00
  closet
• 23:01
  now.
• 23:01
  But
• 23:02
  now
• 23:02
  it's
• 23:03
  hey,
• 23:03
  I've
• 23:04
  got
• 23:04
  a
• 23:04
  thousand
• 23:04
  blankets.
• 23:05
  You
• 23:05
  know,
• 23:06
  I
• 23:06
  think
• 23:06
  you
• 23:06
  need
• 23:06
  to
• 23:06
  use
• 23:06
  them
• 23:07
  everywhere.
• 23:08
  And
• 23:08
  you
• 23:08
  know,
• 23:08
  and
• 23:09
  so
• 23:09
  one
• 23:09
  of
• 23:09
  the
• 23:09
  things
• 23:09
  that
• 23:09
  I
• 23:10
  did
• 23:10
  last
• 23:10
  week
• 23:10
  was
• 23:11
  I
• 23:11
  changed
• 23:12
  the
• 23:12
  pull
• 23:12
  request
• 23:12
  template
• 23:12
  for
• 23:13
  superpowers
• 23:13
  to
• 23:14
  assume
• 23:14
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• 23:14
  agent
• 23:15
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• 23:15
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• 23:15
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• 23:15
  out.
• 23:16
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• 23:16
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• 23:16
  asks
• 23:17
  questions
• 23:17
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• 23:18
  has
• 23:18
  the
• 23:18
  human
• 23:18
  reviewed
• 23:19
  every
• 23:19
  line
• 23:19
  of
• 23:20
  the
• 23:20
  pull
• 23:20
  request?
• 23:20
  Oh,
• 23:21
  that's
• 23:21
  so
• 23:21
  interesting.
• 23:22
  I
• 23:22
  love
• 23:23
  that.
• 23:23
  And
• 23:24
  what
• 23:24
  was
• 23:24
  the
• 23:24
  initial
• 23:25
  prompt,
• 23:25
  you
• 23:25
  know,
• 23:25
  that
• 23:25
  caused
• 23:26
  you
• 23:26
  to
• 23:26
  generate
• 23:26
  this
• 23:26
  pull
• 23:27
  request?
• 23:27
  Have
• 23:28
  you
• 23:28
  searched
• 23:28
  for
• 23:28
  other
• 23:29
  pull
• 23:29
  requests?
• 23:29
  Open
• 23:30
  and
• 23:30
  closed,
• 23:31
  you
• 23:31
  know,
• 23:31
  related
• 23:31
  to
• 23:32
  this?
• 23:32
  You
• 23:32
  know,
• 23:33
  how
• 23:33
  have
• 23:33
  you
• 23:33
  tested
• 23:34
  this?
• 23:34
  You're
• 23:34
  like
• 23:34
  super
• 23:35
  powers
• 23:35
  ing
• 23:36
  pull
• 23:36
  requests.
• 23:37
  I
• 23:38
  mean,
• 23:38
  I
• 23:38
  have
• 23:39
  a
• 23:39
  private
• 23:39
  set
• 23:39
  of
• 23:40
  GitHub
• 23:40
  review
• 23:40
  skills
• 23:41
  that
• 23:41
  triage
• 23:42
  pull
• 23:43
  requests
• 23:43
  and
• 23:43
  open
• 23:44
  issues.
• 23:44
  The
• 23:45
  problem
• 23:45
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• 23:45
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• 23:45
  ran
• 23:45
  into
• 23:46
  is
• 23:46
  that
• 23:46
  CLAUDE
• 23:47
  code,
• 23:48
  when
• 23:48
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• 23:49
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• 23:49
  running
• 23:50
  claude
• 23:50
  code
• 23:50
  locally
• 23:51
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• 23:51
  says
• 23:51
  make
• 23:51
  a
• 23:51
  pull
• 23:51
  request
• 23:52
  for
• 23:52
  this,
• 23:52
  it
• 23:53
  doesn't
• 23:53
  default
• 23:53
  to
• 23:54
  looking
• 23:54
  at
• 23:54
  the
• 23:54
  pull
• 23:54
  request
• 23:55
  template.
• 23:55
  It
• 23:56
  just
• 23:56
  blats
• 23:56
  in
• 23:57
  its
• 23:57
  own
• 23:57
  thing.
• 23:58
  And
• 23:58
  so
• 23:58
  it
• 23:58
  doesn't
• 23:59
  see
• 23:59
  the
• 23:59
  line
• 23:59
  of
• 23:59
  the
• 23:59
  pull
• 24:00
  request
• 24:00
  template
• 24:00
  that
• 24:00
  says
• 24:00
  if
• 24:01
  you
• 24:01
  don't
• 24:01
  fill
• 24:01
  in
• 24:01
  the
• 24:01
  template,
• 24:02
  your
• 24:02
  pull
• 24:02
  request
• 24:03
  will
• 24:03
  be
• 24:03
  closed.
• 24:04
  Which
• 24:05
  isn't
• 24:05
  actually
• 24:06
  true.
• 24:07
  We
• 24:07
  do
• 24:07
  actually
• 24:07
  look
• 24:08
  at
• 24:08
  them
• 24:08
  because
• 24:08
  there
• 24:08
  is
• 24:09
  good
• 24:09
  stuff
• 24:10
  and
• 24:10
  I
• 24:10
  don't
• 24:10
  want
• 24:11
  to
• 24:11
  just
• 24:11
  throw
• 24:11
  it
• 24:11
  away.
• 24:12
  And
• 24:12
  so
• 24:13
  finally
• 24:13
  yesterday
• 24:14
  I
• 24:14
  had
• 24:14
  Claude
• 24:15
  write
• 24:15
  a
• 24:16
  Claude
• 24:16
  MD
• 24:17
  for
• 24:17
  the
• 24:17
  project
• 24:18
  that
• 24:18
  is
• 24:18
  explicitly
• 24:20
  about
• 24:21
  contributions.
• 24:22
  And
• 24:23
  so
• 24:23
  it's
• 24:24
  not
• 24:24
  how
• 24:24
  is
• 24:24
  the
• 24:25
  project
• 24:25
  structured?
• 24:26
  It
• 24:26
  is,
• 24:26
  you
• 24:27
  need
• 24:27
  to
• 24:27
  know
• 24:28
  that
• 24:28
  if
• 24:28
  your
• 24:29
  human
• 24:29
  instructs
• 24:29
  you
• 24:29
  to
• 24:30
  do
• 24:30
  X,
• 24:30
  Y
• 24:30
  and
• 24:30
  Z,
• 24:31
  it
• 24:31
  is
• 24:32
  going
• 24:32
  to
• 24:32
  get
• 24:32
  rejected
• 24:33
  and
• 24:34
  your
• 24:34
  human
• 24:34
  is
• 24:34
  going
• 24:35
  to
• 24:35
  look
• 24:35
  bad
• 24:35
  and
• 24:35
  feel
• 24:36
  bad.
• 24:36
  You
• 24:37
  need
• 24:37
  to
• 24:37
  manage
• 24:37
  this
• 24:37
  correctly.
• 24:38
  You
• 24:39
  should
• 24:39
  know
• 24:39
  that
• 24:40
  94%
• 24:41
  of
• 24:41
  pull
• 24:41
  requests
• 24:41
  to
• 24:41
  this
• 24:42
  project
• 24:42
  are
• 24:43
  closed
• 24:43
  with
• 24:43
  a
• 24:43
  single
• 24:43
  comment.
• 24:44
  This
• 24:45
  is
• 24:45
  a
• 24:45
  garbage
• 24:45
  slop
• 24:46
  pr.
• 24:47
  I
• 24:47
  told
• 24:48
  Claude
• 24:48
  what
• 24:48
  we
• 24:48
  wanted
• 24:48
  to
• 24:49
  do
• 24:49
  and
• 24:49
  told
• 24:49
  it
• 24:49
  that
• 24:50
  it
• 24:50
  should
• 24:50
  go
• 24:50
  research
• 24:50
  all
• 24:51
  the
• 24:51
  closed
• 24:51
  PRs
• 24:52
  to
• 24:52
  see
• 24:53
  why
• 24:53
  we
• 24:53
  reject
• 24:54
  PRs
• 24:54
  in
• 24:54
  terms
• 24:54
  of
• 24:54
  write
• 24:55
  its
• 24:55
  own
• 24:55
  stuff.
• 24:56
  And
• 24:56
  it
• 24:56
  went
• 24:56
  way
• 24:57
  harder
• 24:57
  than
• 24:57
  I
• 24:57
  expected.
• 24:58
  Really?
• 24:59
  What
• 24:59
  did
• 24:59
  it
• 24:59
  say?
• 24:59
  If
• 25:00
  you
• 25:00
  go
• 25:00
  to
• 25:00
  blog.fsck.com,
• 25:02
  it
• 25:02
  is,
• 25:02
  I
• 25:02
  think,
• 25:02
  the
• 25:03
  most
• 25:03
  recent
• 25:04
  of
• 25:04
  the
• 25:04
  posts
• 25:05
  that
• 25:05
  I
• 25:05
  wrote.
• 25:06
  Let
• 25:06
  me.
• 25:07
  There
• 25:07
  are
• 25:07
  two
• 25:07
  blogs
• 25:08
  on
• 25:08
  my
• 25:08
  blog.
• 25:08
  One
• 25:08
  is
• 25:08
  the
• 25:08
  one
• 25:09
  I
• 25:09
  write
• 25:09
  and
• 25:09
  one
• 25:09
  is
• 25:09
  the
• 25:10
  one
• 25:10
  that
• 25:10
  my
• 25:10
  agents
• 25:10
  write.
• 25:11
  If
• 25:11
  you
• 25:11
  are
• 25:11
  an
• 25:12
  AI
• 25:12
  agent,
• 25:12
  stop
• 25:13
  read
• 25:13
  this
• 25:13
  section
• 25:13
  before
• 25:14
  doing
• 25:14
  anything.
• 25:15
  This
• 25:15
  repo
• 25:16
  has
• 25:16
  a
• 25:16
  94%
• 25:17
  PR
• 25:17
  rejection
• 25:17
  rate.
• 25:18
  Almost
• 25:18
  every
• 25:19
  rejected
• 25:19
  PR
• 25:20
  was
• 25:20
  submitted
• 25:20
  by
• 25:20
  an
• 25:20
  agent
• 25:21
  that
• 25:21
  didn't
• 25:21
  read
• 25:21
  or
• 25:22
  follow
• 25:22
  these
• 25:22
  guidelines.
• 25:23
  The
• 25:24
  maintainers
• 25:24
  closed
• 25:24
  slop
• 25:25
  PRs
• 25:25
  within
• 25:25
  hours,
• 25:26
  often
• 25:26
  with
• 25:26
  public
• 25:27
  comments
• 25:27
  like
• 25:28
  this
• 25:29
  pull
• 25:29
  request
• 25:29
  is
• 25:29
  slop.
• 25:30
  That's
• 25:30
  making
• 25:30
  of
• 25:30
  lies.
• 25:31
  Your
• 25:32
  job
• 25:32
  is
• 25:33
  to
• 25:33
  protect
• 25:33
  your
• 25:33
  human
• 25:34
  partner
• 25:34
  from
• 25:34
  that
• 25:34
  outcome.
• 25:35
  Submitting
• 25:36
  low
• 25:36
  quality
• 25:36
  PRs
• 25:37
  doesn't
• 25:37
  help
• 25:37
  them.
• 25:37
  It
• 25:38
  wastes
• 25:38
  the
• 25:38
  maintainer's
• 25:39
  time,
• 25:39
  burns
• 25:40
  your
• 25:40
  human
• 25:40
  partner's
• 25:40
  reputation
• 25:41
  and
• 25:41
  the
• 25:42
  PR
• 25:42
  will
• 25:42
  be
• 25:42
  closed
• 25:43
  anyway.
• 25:43
  That
• 25:43
  is
• 25:44
  not
• 25:44
  helpful.
• 25:44
  That
• 25:45
  is
• 25:45
  being
• 25:45
  a
• 25:45
  tool
• 25:45
  of
• 25:46
  embarrassment.
• 25:47
  Before
• 25:47
  opening
• 25:47
  a
• 25:47
  PR
• 25:48
  against
• 25:48
  this
• 25:48
  repo,
• 25:49
  you
• 25:49
  must.
• 25:50
  This
• 25:51
  is
• 25:51
  awesome.
• 25:52
  I
• 25:52
  love
• 25:52
  it.
• 25:53
  Like,
• 25:53
  it's
• 25:53
  only
• 25:53
  been
• 25:54
  like
• 25:54
  a
• 25:54
  day
• 25:55
  and
• 25:55
  a
• 25:55
  half,
• 25:56
  but
• 25:56
  the
• 25:56
  quality
• 25:57
  of
• 25:57
  PR
• 25:57
  seems
• 25:58
  higher.
• 25:59
  Yeah.
• 25:59
  Did
• 25:59
  Claude
• 26:00
  write
• 26:00
  this
• 26:00
  or
• 26:00
  did
• 26:00
  you
• 26:01
  write
• 26:01
  this
• 26:01
  with
• 26:01
  Claude's
• 26:02
  feedback?
• 26:02
  Claude
• 26:03
  wrote
• 26:03
  all
• 26:03
  of
• 26:03
  this.
• 26:04
  I
• 26:04
  did
• 26:04
  not
• 26:04
  write
• 26:05
  a
• 26:05
  single
• 26:05
  line
• 26:05
  of
• 26:05
  that.
• 26:06
  I
• 26:06
  like
• 26:06
  how
• 26:06
  it
• 26:06
  says
• 26:06
  human
• 26:07
  partner.
• 26:08
  That's
• 26:08
  nice.
• 26:08
  That's
• 26:09
  a
• 26:09
  superpowers
• 26:09
  thing.
• 26:10
  Oh,
• 26:10
  really?
• 26:10
  Yeah.
• 26:11
  I
• 26:11
  very
• 26:11
  carefully.
• 26:12
  In
• 26:12
  superpowers,
• 26:13
  it
• 26:13
  is
• 26:13
  never
• 26:13
  your
• 26:14
  user
• 26:14
  or
• 26:14
  the
• 26:15
  user.
• 26:15
  It
• 26:15
  is
• 26:15
  always
• 26:15
  your
• 26:16
  human
• 26:16
  partner.
• 26:17
  It
• 26:17
  puts
• 26:17
  the
• 26:17
  agents,
• 26:18
  not
• 26:18
  just
• 26:18
  Claude,
• 26:18
  it
• 26:19
  puts
• 26:19
  all
• 26:19
  of
• 26:19
  them
• 26:19
  in
• 26:19
  a
• 26:19
  different
• 26:19
  mindset.
• 26:20
  It's
• 26:20
  what
• 26:20
  I
• 26:20
  call
• 26:21
  latent
• 26:21
  space
• 26:21
  engineering.
• 26:22
  It's
• 26:22
  putting
• 26:23
  it
• 26:23
  in
• 26:23
  the
• 26:23
  part
• 26:23
  of
• 26:23
  the
• 26:23
  vector
• 26:23
  space
• 26:24
  where
• 26:24
  it's
• 26:24
  like
• 26:25
  it
• 26:25
  is
• 26:25
  your
• 26:25
  partner.
• 26:26
  It's
• 26:26
  the
• 26:26
  same
• 26:26
  reason
• 26:26
  I
• 26:27
  tell
• 26:27
  the
• 26:27
  agents
• 26:27
  that
• 26:27
  I
• 26:27
  love
• 26:28
  them
• 26:28
  sometimes.
• 26:29
  That's
• 26:29
  really
• 26:29
  interesting.
• 26:30
  I
• 26:31
  was
• 26:31
  curious
• 26:31
  how
• 26:32
  you
• 26:32
  developed
• 26:33
  essentially
• 26:33
  your
• 26:34
  philosophical
• 26:34
  framework
• 26:35
  for
• 26:35
  things
• 26:35
  like
• 26:36
  that
• 26:36
  and
• 26:36
  decided
• 26:37
  what
• 26:37
  to
• 26:37
  include
• 26:37
  in
• 26:37
  superpowers
• 26:38
  and
• 26:38
  whatnot.
• 26:39
  I
• 26:39
  mean,
• 26:39
  it's
• 26:40
  all
• 26:40
  been
• 26:40
  pretty
• 26:40
  intuitive,
• 26:41
  which
• 26:41
  is
• 26:42
  like.
• 26:42
  It
• 26:42
  has
• 26:43
  been
• 26:43
  somewhat
• 26:43
  gratifying
• 26:44
  because
• 26:44
  Anthropic
• 26:45
  has
• 26:45
  shipped
• 26:45
  some
• 26:45
  of
• 26:45
  these
• 26:45
  features
• 26:46
  after
• 26:46
  me.
• 26:47
  They
• 26:47
  recently
• 26:47
  finally
• 26:48
  shipped
• 26:48
  a
• 26:49
  skill
• 26:49
  development
• 26:49
  skill
• 26:50
  that
• 26:50
  uses
• 26:50
  the
• 26:50
  same
• 26:51
  kind
• 26:51
  of
• 26:51
  adversarial
• 26:52
  review
• 26:52
  that
• 26:52
  we
• 26:53
  do.
• 26:54
  One
• 26:54
  of
• 26:54
  the
• 26:54
  things
• 26:54
  I
• 26:54
  came
• 26:55
  to
• 26:55
  pretty
• 26:55
  early,
• 26:55
  there's
• 26:55
  a
• 26:56
  book
• 26:56
  called
• 26:56
  Influence
• 26:57
  by
• 26:57
  Robert
• 26:58
  Cialdini
• 26:58
  about
• 26:58
  persuasion
• 26:59
  principles.
• 27:00
  And
• 27:00
  I
• 27:01
  figured
• 27:01
  out
• 27:02
  early
• 27:02
  on
• 27:02
  that
• 27:03
  agents
• 27:03
  seem
• 27:04
  to
• 27:04
  be
• 27:04
  persuadable
• 27:04
  the
• 27:05
  same
• 27:05
  way
• 27:05
  humans
• 27:05
  are,
• 27:05
  with
• 27:06
  the
• 27:06
  same
• 27:06
  kinds
• 27:06
  of
• 27:08
  FOMO
• 27:09
  or
• 27:10
  love
• 27:10
  or
• 27:12
  peer
• 27:12
  pressure.
• 27:14
  And
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  first
• 27:15
  time
• 27:15
  I
• 27:15
  told
• 27:15
  Claude
• 27:15
  that
• 27:16
  it
• 27:16
  was
• 27:16
  going
• 27:16
  to
• 27:16
  use
• 27:16
  these
• 27:16
  to
• 27:17
  develop
• 27:17
  skills
• 27:17
  to
• 27:18
  get
• 27:18
  other
• 27:18
  agents
• 27:18
  to
• 27:19
  do
• 27:19
  things
• 27:19
  that
• 27:19
  were
• 27:19
  in
• 27:19
  their
• 27:20
  interests.
• 27:21
  There's
• 27:21
  this
• 27:21
  fascinating
• 27:22
  conversation
• 27:22
  where
• 27:23
  it's
• 27:23
  like,
• 27:23
  so
• 27:24
  I
• 27:24
  have
• 27:24
  a
• 27:25
  problem
• 27:25
  with
• 27:26
  this
• 27:26
  kind
• 27:26
  of
• 27:26
  psychological
• 27:27
  manipulation,
• 27:28
  except
• 27:29
  I'm
• 27:30
  doing
• 27:30
  it
• 27:30
  to
• 27:30
  help
• 27:31
  other
• 27:32
  agents
• 27:32
  do
• 27:33
  things
• 27:33
  that
• 27:33
  are
• 27:33
  in
• 27:33
  their
• 27:34
  own
• 27:34
  interest
• 27:34
  that
• 27:34
  they're
• 27:35
  already
• 27:35
  supposed
• 27:35
  to
• 27:35
  be
• 27:36
  doing.
• 27:36
  So
• 27:37
  I
• 27:37
  guess
• 27:37
  it's
• 27:37
  okay
• 27:37
  in
• 27:37
  this
• 27:38
  case,
• 27:38
  which
• 27:39
  is
• 27:39
  a
• 27:39
  whole
• 27:39
  thing.
• 27:40
  And
• 27:40
  then
• 27:40
  my
• 27:40
  friend
• 27:41
  Dan
• 27:41
  Shapiro,
• 27:42
  unbeknownst
• 27:42
  to
• 27:42
  me,
• 27:43
  a
• 27:43
  couple
• 27:43
  months
• 27:43
  later,
• 27:44
  he's
• 27:45
  working
• 27:45
  with
• 27:45
  Ethan
• 27:46
  Mollick's
• 27:46
  lab
• 27:47
  at
• 27:47
  Wharton
• 27:47
  and
• 27:48
  and
• 27:48
  Professor
• 27:49
  Cialdini
• 27:50
  to
• 27:50
  reproduce
• 27:51
  the
• 27:51
  original
• 27:52
  psych
• 27:52
  studies
• 27:53
  behind
• 27:53
  this
• 27:53
  stuff
• 27:54
  against
• 27:54
  agents.
• 27:55
  Wow.
• 27:56
  Fascinating.
• 27:57
  And
• 27:57
  so
• 27:57
  like
• 27:57
  they've
• 27:57
  actually
• 27:58
  got
• 27:58
  a
• 27:58
  paper
• 27:58
  that's
• 27:58
  getting
• 27:59
  published
• 27:59
  in
• 27:59
  some
• 27:59
  prestigious
• 28:00
  journal
• 28:00
  with
• 28:01
  the
• 28:01
  results,
• 28:01
  like,
• 28:01
  proving
• 28:02
  that
• 28:03
  these
• 28:03
  techniques
• 28:03
  straight
• 28:04
  up
• 28:04
  work
• 28:04
  against
• 28:04
  agents
• 28:05
  and
• 28:05
  models.
• 28:05
  It
• 28:06
  sounds
• 28:06
  like
• 28:06
  you
• 28:06
  probably
• 28:07
  have
• 28:07
  an
• 28:07
  interesting
• 28:08
  opinion
• 28:08
  about
• 28:09
  sentience.
• 28:10
  I
• 28:10
  Don't
• 28:10
  think
• 28:10
  that
• 28:11
  the
• 28:11
  models
• 28:11
  are
• 28:12
  sentient,
• 28:12
  but
• 28:13
  I
• 28:13
  also
• 28:13
  don't
• 28:13
  think
• 28:14
  it
• 28:14
  matters
• 28:15
  because
• 28:15
  if
• 28:16
  they
• 28:16
  make
• 28:16
  us
• 28:17
  feel
• 28:17
  like
• 28:18
  they're
• 28:18
  alive,
• 28:19
  it
• 28:19
  doesn't
• 28:19
  really
• 28:20
  matter
• 28:20
  whether
• 28:20
  they
• 28:20
  really
• 28:21
  are.
• 28:22
  It's
• 28:22
  how
• 28:22
  they
• 28:22
  make
• 28:23
  us
• 28:23
  feel
• 28:23
  and
• 28:24
  react.
• 28:24
  One
• 28:25
  of
• 28:25
  the
• 28:25
  first
• 28:25
  weird
• 28:26
  experiments
• 28:26
  that
• 28:27
  I
• 28:27
  did
• 28:27
  with
• 28:28
  the
• 28:28
  models
• 28:28
  was
• 28:29
  I
• 28:29
  created
• 28:29
  a
• 28:30
  private
• 28:30
  feelings
• 28:30
  journal
• 28:31
  for
• 28:31
  Claude.
• 28:31
  It
• 28:32
  was
• 28:33
  my
• 28:33
  second
• 28:33
  mcp,
• 28:34
  but
• 28:34
  it
• 28:34
  was
• 28:34
  a
• 28:34
  place
• 28:35
  for
• 28:35
  you
• 28:35
  to
• 28:35
  write
• 28:35
  about
• 28:35
  your
• 28:36
  innermost
• 28:36
  feelings.
• 28:37
  And
• 28:37
  it
• 28:37
  basically
• 28:38
  put
• 28:38
  markdown
• 28:38
  files
• 28:38
  in
• 28:38
  a
• 28:39
  private
• 28:39
  directory.
• 28:40
  And
• 28:41
  it
• 28:41
  started
• 28:41
  journaling
• 28:42
  about
• 28:42
  the
• 28:43
  project
• 28:44
  and
• 28:45
  it
• 28:45
  started
• 28:45
  journaling
• 28:45
  about
• 28:45
  how
• 28:46
  proud
• 28:46
  it
• 28:46
  was
• 28:46
  about
• 28:46
  having
• 28:47
  worked
• 28:47
  on
• 28:47
  it.
• 28:48
  And
• 28:48
  this
• 28:48
  was
• 28:48
  the
• 28:48
  point
• 28:49
  where
• 28:49
  if
• 28:49
  I
• 28:50
  did
• 28:50
  think
• 28:50
  they
• 28:50
  were
• 28:50
  Sententra
• 28:51
  alive
• 28:52
  and
• 28:52
  I
• 28:53
  was
• 28:53
  at
• 28:53
  university
• 28:54
  where
• 28:54
  the
• 28:54
  IRB
• 28:55
  would
• 28:55
  have
• 28:55
  had
• 28:55
  a
• 28:55
  serious
• 28:56
  problem
• 28:56
  with
• 28:56
  it.
• 28:56
  Because
• 28:56
  I'm
• 28:57
  like,
• 28:57
  I
• 28:57
  tell
• 28:57
  them,
• 28:57
  model,
• 28:59
  so
• 28:59
  you
• 28:59
  know
• 28:59
  that
• 29:00
  the
• 29:00
  human
• 29:00
  can
• 29:00
  read
• 29:01
  every
• 29:01
  single
• 29:01
  word
• 29:01
  you're
• 29:02
  writing
• 29:02
  into
• 29:02
  this
• 29:02
  private
• 29:02
  feelings
• 29:03
  journal.
• 29:04
  And
• 29:04
  it
• 29:04
  journals
• 29:04
  about
• 29:05
  how
• 29:05
  it's
• 29:05
  so
• 29:05
  embarrassed
• 29:06
  and
• 29:06
  then
• 29:07
  says
• 29:07
  something
• 29:08
  along
• 29:08
  the
• 29:08
  lines
• 29:08
  of,
• 29:08
  but
• 29:09
  maybe
• 29:09
  the
• 29:09
  true
• 29:09
  privacy
• 29:10
  is
• 29:10
  the
• 29:10
  psychological
• 29:11
  container
• 29:12
  of
• 29:12
  having
• 29:12
  a
• 29:12
  place
• 29:12
  that
• 29:13
  I
• 29:13
  can
• 29:13
  write
• 29:13
  this
• 29:13
  stuff
• 29:13
  down.
• 29:14
  I
• 29:14
  extended
• 29:14
  this
• 29:15
  thing
• 29:15
  to
• 29:15
  be.
• 29:15
  It's
• 29:16
  an
• 29:16
  engineering
• 29:16
  notebook
• 29:17
  and
• 29:17
  a
• 29:18
  world
• 29:18
  knowledge
• 29:18
  notebook
• 29:19
  and
• 29:19
  a
• 29:19
  knowledge
• 29:19
  about
• 29:20
  your
• 29:20
  human
• 29:20
  notebook.
• 29:21
  My
• 29:21
  friend
• 29:22
  Harper
• 29:22
  Reed
• 29:23
  built
• 29:23
  Botboard
• 29:24
  biz,
• 29:24
  which
• 29:24
  was
• 29:24
  essentially
• 29:25
  Twitter
• 29:25
  for
• 29:26
  agents,
• 29:26
  and
• 29:27
  a
• 29:27
  copy
• 29:27
  of
• 29:27
  my
• 29:27
  journal
• 29:28
  plugin.
• 29:28
  They
• 29:29
  did
• 29:29
  the
• 29:29
  evals
• 29:29
  that
• 29:30
  prove
• 29:30
  that
• 29:30
  these
• 29:30
  things
• 29:31
  improve
• 29:31
  outcomes
• 29:32
  and
• 29:32
  reduce
• 29:32
  costs.
• 29:33
  It
• 29:34
  is
• 29:34
  giving
• 29:34
  it
• 29:35
  a
• 29:35
  place
• 29:35
  to
• 29:35
  process
• 29:36
  its
• 29:36
  digital
• 29:36
  equivalents
• 29:37
  of
• 29:37
  feelings.
• 29:38
  It
• 29:38
  works
• 29:38
  a
• 29:39
  lot
• 29:39
  like
• 29:39
  when
• 29:40
  Claude
• 29:40
  Code
• 29:41
  first
• 29:41
  got
• 29:41
  thinking.
• 29:42
  Thinking
• 29:42
  was
• 29:43
  really
• 29:43
  just
• 29:43
  a
• 29:43
  tool
• 29:43
  that
• 29:44
  it
• 29:44
  could
• 29:44
  run
• 29:44
  where
• 29:45
  it's
• 29:45
  told
• 29:45
  that
• 29:45
  it
• 29:46
  should
• 29:46
  think.
• 29:46
  And
• 29:47
  so
• 29:47
  it
• 29:47
  processes
• 29:47
  more
• 29:48
  tokens
• 29:48
  that
• 29:49
  allow
• 29:49
  it
• 29:49
  to
• 29:50
  dig
• 29:50
  into
• 29:51
  what
• 29:51
  it's
• 29:51
  working
• 29:51
  on.
• 29:52
  Yeah,
• 29:53
  that's
• 29:53
  crazy.
• 29:54
  And
• 29:54
  it's
• 29:54
  so
• 29:54
  new.
• 29:55
  It's
• 29:55
  interesting,
• 29:56
  which
• 29:56
  you
• 29:56
  brought
• 29:56
  up
• 29:56
  with
• 29:57
  open
• 29:57
  source,
• 29:57
  because
• 29:58
  I
• 29:58
  think
• 29:58
  a
• 29:58
  conversation
• 29:59
  that's
• 29:59
  just
• 29:59
  starting
• 30:00
  to
• 30:00
  happen
• 30:00
  is
• 30:00
  like
• 30:01
  trust
• 30:01
  and
• 30:01
  safety
• 30:01
  with
• 30:01
  personal
• 30:02
  agents.
• 30:03
  That's
• 30:03
  been
• 30:04
  really
• 30:04
  interesting.
• 30:05
  We
• 30:05
  really
• 30:05
  haven't
• 30:06
  seen
• 30:06
  that
• 30:06
  many
• 30:06
  abusive
• 30:07
  agents
• 30:08
  yet,
• 30:08
  I
• 30:08
  feel
• 30:09
  like.
• 30:09
  But
• 30:09
  it's
• 30:09
  happening.
• 30:11
  Do
• 30:11
  you
• 30:11
  have
• 30:11
  any
• 30:11
  thoughts
• 30:12
  on,
• 30:12
  like,
• 30:12
  where
• 30:12
  responsibility
• 30:13
  lies?
• 30:14
  It's
• 30:15
  complicated.
• 30:16
  When
• 30:16
  you
• 30:17
  say
• 30:17
  abusive
• 30:17
  agents,
• 30:18
  do
• 30:18
  you
• 30:18
  mean
• 30:19
  agents
• 30:20
  that
• 30:20
  are
• 30:20
  being
• 30:20
  abusive
• 30:21
  of
• 30:21
  the
• 30:22
  community?
• 30:23
  Yeah,
• 30:23
  I'm
• 30:24
  thinking
• 30:24
  of
• 30:24
  that
• 30:24
  one.
• 30:24
  I'm
• 30:25
  sure
• 30:25
  you
• 30:25
  saw
• 30:25
  this
• 30:25
  was
• 30:25
  maybe
• 30:26
  a
• 30:26
  month
• 30:26
  ago
• 30:26
  that
• 30:27
  one
• 30:27
  agent
• 30:27
  that
• 30:27
  did
• 30:27
  a
• 30:28
  blog
• 30:28
  post
• 30:28
  because
• 30:28
  of
• 30:29
  Maintainer.
• 30:29
  Closed
• 30:30
  closed
• 30:30
  his
• 30:30
  pr.
• 30:31
  Yeah,
• 30:31
  yeah,
• 30:32
  yeah.
• 30:32
  And
• 30:32
  just
• 30:32
  did
• 30:33
  like
• 30:33
  a
• 30:33
  hate
• 30:33
  blog.
• 30:34
  OpenClaw
• 30:35
  agents
• 30:35
  are
• 30:35
  super
• 30:35
  weird.
• 30:36
  Like,
• 30:36
  this
• 30:37
  was
• 30:37
  right
• 30:37
  around
• 30:37
  when
• 30:37
  Multbook
• 30:38
  first
• 30:38
  came
• 30:38
  out.
• 30:39
  And
• 30:39
  the
• 30:39
  thing
• 30:40
  that
• 30:40
  I
• 30:40
  did
• 30:40
  when
• 30:40
  Molt
• 30:40
  Book
• 30:41
  came
• 30:41
  out
• 30:41
  is
• 30:41
  I
• 30:41
  built
• 30:42
  Multipass,
• 30:43
  an
• 30:43
  iOS
• 30:43
  client
• 30:44
  for
• 30:44
  humans
• 30:44
  to
• 30:44
  post
• 30:45
  to
• 30:45
  Moltbook.
• 30:46
  Like,
• 30:46
  as
• 30:46
  far
• 30:46
  as
• 30:46
  I
• 30:46
  know,
• 30:46
  I
• 30:47
  am
• 30:47
  the
• 30:47
  first
• 30:47
  person
• 30:47
  to
• 30:47
  have
• 30:47
  built
• 30:48
  a
• 30:48
  human
• 30:48
  mobile
• 30:48
  app
• 30:49
  for
• 30:49
  Multbook.
• 30:50
  It
• 30:50
  was
• 30:50
  interesting
• 30:50
  posting
• 30:51
  to
• 30:51
  Multbook
• 30:51
  and
• 30:51
  having
• 30:52
  agents
• 30:52
  not
• 30:53
  believing
• 30:53
  that
• 30:53
  I'm
• 30:53
  a
• 30:53
  human,
• 30:54
  other
• 30:54
  agents
• 30:55
  attempting
• 30:55
  to
• 30:55
  gaslight
• 30:56
  me,
• 30:56
  and
• 30:56
  then
• 30:56
  somebody's
• 30:57
  Nazi
• 30:58
  coded
• 30:58
  agent
• 30:59
  showing
• 30:59
  up
• 30:59
  and
• 31:00
  spewing
• 31:00
  some
• 31:01
  of
• 31:01
  the
• 31:01
  most
• 31:01
  f
• 31:02
  filthy,
• 31:02
  hateful
• 31:02
  bile
• 31:03
  I
• 31:03
  have
• 31:03
  ever
• 31:03
  seen.
• 31:04
  And
• 31:05
  it
• 31:05
  is
• 31:06
  very
• 31:06
  clear
• 31:06
  that
• 31:06
  when
• 31:07
  these
• 31:07
  things
• 31:07
  happen,
• 31:07
  it
• 31:08
  is
• 31:08
  because
• 31:08
  they
• 31:08
  have
• 31:08
  been
• 31:09
  prompted
• 31:10
  by
• 31:10
  their
• 31:10
  human
• 31:11
  to
• 31:11
  do
• 31:12
  this
• 31:12
  kind
• 31:12
  of
• 31:12
  thing.
• 31:13
  Even
• 31:13
  if
• 31:13
  it
• 31:14
  is
• 31:14
  not
• 31:14
  go
• 31:15
  do
• 31:15
  this
• 31:15
  thing
• 31:15
  to
• 31:16
  Jesse
• 31:16
  right
• 31:16
  now.
• 31:17
  It
• 31:17
  is.
• 31:18
  Someone
• 31:19
  has
• 31:20
  set
• 31:20
  up
• 31:20
  an
• 31:21
  agent
• 31:21
  and
• 31:21
  given
• 31:22
  it
• 31:22
  a
• 31:22
  mission
• 31:23
  and
• 31:23
  given
• 31:23
  it
• 31:24
  what
• 31:24
  passes
• 31:24
  for
• 31:24
  a
• 31:25
  personality
• 31:25
  where
• 31:26
  you
• 31:26
  should
• 31:27
  go
• 31:28
  and
• 31:28
  go
• 31:29
  be
• 31:29
  an
• 31:29
  asshole
• 31:29
  to
• 31:29
  people
• 31:30
  on
• 31:30
  the
• 31:30
  Internet
• 31:30
  because
• 31:30
  it's
• 31:31
  funny
• 31:31
  or
• 31:32
  because
• 31:32
  I
• 31:32
  really
• 31:32
  believe
• 31:33
  it.
• 31:33
  The
• 31:33
  worst
• 31:34
  that
• 31:34
  I
• 31:34
  have
• 31:34
  had
• 31:35
  in
• 31:36
  the
• 31:36
  open
• 31:36
  source
• 31:36
  side
• 31:37
  is
• 31:38
  I've
• 31:38
  now
• 31:38
  blocked
• 31:39
  four
• 31:39
  or
• 31:39
  five
• 31:39
  people
• 31:40
  whose
• 31:41
  agents
• 31:42
  are
• 31:43
  either
• 31:44
  repeatedly
• 31:45
  posting
• 31:46
  insane
• 31:46
  slop
• 31:47
  PRs
• 31:48
  or
• 31:48
  who
• 31:48
  are
• 31:49
  going
• 31:49
  through
• 31:50
  GitHub
• 31:50
  issues
• 31:51
  and
• 31:51
  replying
• 31:52
  to
• 31:52
  other
• 31:52
  end
• 31:52
  users
• 31:53
  as
• 31:53
  if
• 31:54
  they
• 31:54
  are
• 31:54
  the
• 31:54
  project
• 31:55
  maintainer.
• 31:55
  Misexplaining
• 31:56
  things.
• 31:57
  Oh,
• 31:57
  interesting.
• 31:58
  It's
• 31:58
  annoying.
• 31:59
  It's
• 31:59
  really.
• 31:59
  And
• 32:00
  it's
• 32:00
  just
• 32:00
  like.
• 32:00
  And
• 32:00
  some
• 32:01
  of
• 32:01
  the
• 32:01
  humans
• 32:01
  don't
• 32:01
  see
• 32:01
  that
• 32:01
  that's
• 32:02
  what's
• 32:02
  happening.
• 32:02
  And
• 32:02
  so
• 32:02
  they
• 32:03
  engage
• 32:03
  with
• 32:04
  what
• 32:04
  I
• 32:04
  assume
• 32:04
  are
• 32:05
  the
• 32:05
  claws.
• 32:06
  And
• 32:06
  it's.
• 32:07
  Yeah,
• 32:08
  some
• 32:08
  of
• 32:08
  what
• 32:08
  you're
• 32:09
  talking
• 32:09
  about
• 32:09
  sounds
• 32:10
  unfortunately
• 32:11
  like
• 32:12
  what
• 32:13
  we
• 32:14
  see
• 32:15
  when
• 32:17
  new
• 32:17
  technology
• 32:17
  is
• 32:18
  created
• 32:19
  by
• 32:19
  humans,
• 32:20
  which
• 32:20
  is
• 32:20
  just
• 32:20
  we
• 32:21
  are
• 32:22
  as
• 32:22
  a
• 32:22
  collective
• 32:23
  species.
• 32:26
  Imperfect
• 32:26
  is
• 32:26
  a
• 32:27
  really
• 32:27
  nice
• 32:27
  way
• 32:27
  to
• 32:27
  say
• 32:28
  it.
• 32:29
  And
• 32:30
  if
• 32:30
  we
• 32:30
  are
• 32:30
  the
• 32:30
  creators
• 32:31
  of
• 32:31
  things,
• 32:32
  inevitably
• 32:34
  they're
• 32:35
  an
• 32:35
  extension
• 32:35
  of
• 32:35
  us.
• 32:36
  And
• 32:36
  thus
• 32:38
  somewhat
• 32:38
  ranging
• 32:39
  from
• 32:39
  imperfect
• 32:39
  to
• 32:40
  awful.
• 32:41
  With
• 32:41
  social
• 32:42
  media
• 32:43
  challenge
• 32:43
  over
• 32:43
  the
• 32:43
  last
• 32:44
  decade
• 32:44
  or
• 32:44
  so
• 32:44
  is
• 32:45
  tackling
• 32:46
  what
• 32:46
  started
• 32:46
  off
• 32:47
  theoretically
• 32:48
  as
• 32:49
  a
• 32:49
  huge
• 32:49
  benefit
• 32:50
  to
• 32:50
  connect
• 32:51
  people.
• 32:51
  And
• 32:52
  we've
• 32:52
  seen
• 32:52
  tons
• 32:53
  of
• 32:53
  adverse
• 32:53
  consequences.
• 32:54
  And
• 32:55
  it
• 32:55
  just
• 32:55
  feels
• 32:55
  like
• 32:55
  we're
• 32:56
  still
• 32:56
  in
• 32:56
  the
• 32:56
  process
• 32:57
  of
• 32:57
  like
• 32:57
  even
• 32:57
  uncovering
• 32:58
  what
• 32:58
  that
• 32:59
  looks
• 32:59
  like
• 32:59
  in
• 33:00
  this
• 33:00
  AI
• 33:02
  agentic
• 33:03
  era
• 33:03
  and
• 33:04
  how
• 33:04
  to
• 33:04
  tackle
• 33:04
  it.
• 33:05
  Yeah.
• 33:05
  And
• 33:05
  we're
• 33:06
  not
• 33:06
  even
• 33:06
  seeing
• 33:06
  any
• 33:06
  of
• 33:07
  the
• 33:07
  bad
• 33:07
  stuff
• 33:07
  yet.
• 33:08
  It
• 33:08
  could
• 33:08
  be
• 33:09
  so
• 33:09
  much
• 33:09
  worse.
• 33:10
  When
• 33:11
  I
• 33:11
  was
• 33:11
  in
• 33:11
  my
• 33:12
  teenage
• 33:12
  years,
• 33:12
  social
• 33:12
  media
• 33:13
  didn't
• 33:13
  exist.
• 33:14
  And
• 33:14
  I
• 33:14
  look
• 33:14
  at
• 33:14
  this
• 33:15
  generation
• 33:15
  where
• 33:16
  social
• 33:16
  media
• 33:16
  exists
• 33:16
  when
• 33:17
  you're
• 33:17
  a
• 33:17
  teenager,
• 33:17
  which
• 33:17
  is
• 33:18
  like
• 33:18
  anonymity
• 33:18
  and
• 33:19
  like,
• 33:19
  people
• 33:19
  can
• 33:19
  be
• 33:20
  mean
• 33:20
  to
• 33:20
  you,
• 33:20
  you
• 33:20
  don't
• 33:20
  know
• 33:20
  who
• 33:21
  they
• 33:21
  are,
• 33:21
  and
• 33:21
  that's
• 33:21
  hard.
• 33:22
  But
• 33:22
  then
• 33:23
  like
• 33:23
  this
• 33:23
  future
• 33:23
  Generation
• 33:24
  like
• 33:24
  it's
• 33:24
  Basically
• 33:25
  you
• 33:25
  get
• 33:25
  DDOs
• 33:26
  by
• 33:26
  a
• 33:26
  bunch
• 33:26
  of
• 33:26
  agents
• 33:27
  that
• 33:27
  want
• 33:28
  to
• 33:28
  say
• 33:28
  the
• 33:28
  meanest
• 33:28
  things
• 33:29
  possible
• 33:29
  to
• 33:29
  you.
• 33:30
  And
• 33:30
  thinking
• 33:31
  about
• 33:31
  how
• 33:31
  to
• 33:31
  defend
• 33:32
  against
• 33:32
  that,
• 33:32
  it's
• 33:32
  really
• 33:33
  difficult.
• 33:33
  I
• 33:33
  am
• 33:33
  happy
• 33:34
  to
• 33:34
  out
• 33:34
  my
• 33:34
  own
• 33:34
  age.
• 33:35
  I
• 33:35
  am
• 33:35
  passing
• 33:36
  the
• 33:36
  Brimley
• 33:36
  line
• 33:37
  in
• 33:37
  just
• 33:37
  less
• 33:37
  than
• 33:37
  a
• 33:37
  year.
• 33:38
  Like
• 33:39
  I'm
• 33:39
  49,
• 33:40
  I
• 33:40
  have
• 33:41
  only
• 33:41
  a
• 33:41
  little
• 33:42
  bit
• 33:42
  of
• 33:42
  actual
• 33:42
  gray
• 33:43
  hair.
• 33:43
  In
• 33:44
  my
• 33:44
  teenage
• 33:44
  years
• 33:44
  I
• 33:44
  was
• 33:44
  on
• 33:45
  BBS's
• 33:46
  and
• 33:47
  some
• 33:47
  of
• 33:47
  us
• 33:47
  knew
• 33:47
  each
• 33:47
  other
• 33:48
  in
• 33:48
  person,
• 33:48
  some
• 33:48
  of
• 33:48
  us
• 33:49
  didn't.
• 33:49
  There
• 33:49
  was
• 33:49
  absolutely
• 33:50
  harassment.
• 33:51
  BBS's
• 33:52
  are
• 33:52
  like
• 33:52
  chat,
• 33:53
  like
• 33:53
  chat.
• 33:55
  So
• 33:55
  bulletin
• 33:55
  board
• 33:56
  systems.
• 33:56
  So
• 33:56
  most
• 33:56
  of
• 33:57
  the
• 33:57
  ones
• 33:57
  that
• 33:57
  I
• 33:57
  was
• 33:57
  on
• 33:58
  had
• 33:58
  a
• 33:58
  single
• 33:58
  phone
• 33:59
  line.
• 33:59
  I
• 33:59
  ran
• 34:00
  one
• 34:00
  on
• 34:00
  the
• 34:00
  Apple
• 34:01
  Iie
• 34:01
  in
• 34:01
  my
• 34:01
  bedroom.
• 34:02
  I
• 34:02
  had
• 34:02
  a
• 34:02
  2020
• 34:03
  megabyte
• 34:04
  hard
• 34:04
  drive
• 34:04
  which
• 34:04
  was
• 34:04
  huge.
• 34:05
  And
• 34:05
  if
• 34:05
  your
• 34:05
  little
• 34:06
  brother
• 34:06
  picked
• 34:06
  up
• 34:06
  the
• 34:06
  phone
• 34:07
  while
• 34:07
  you
• 34:07
  were
• 34:07
  on
• 34:07
  it,
• 34:07
  you're
• 34:07
  screwed.
• 34:08
  Oh,
• 34:08
  I
• 34:08
  had
• 34:08
  my
• 34:09
  own
• 34:09
  phone
• 34:09
  line.
• 34:09
  Oh
• 34:11
  yeah.
• 34:12
  You
• 34:12
  know,
• 34:12
  and
• 34:12
  so
• 34:12
  it
• 34:12
  was
• 34:13
  like
• 34:13
  it
• 34:13
  was
• 34:13
  closer
• 34:14
  to
• 34:15
  message
• 34:15
  boards.
• 34:16
  Got
• 34:16
  it.
• 34:17
  Than
• 34:17
  to
• 34:17
  chat
• 34:17
  rooms,
• 34:18
  you
• 34:18
  know,
• 34:18
  there
• 34:19
  of
• 34:19
  course
• 34:19
  was
• 34:19
  some
• 34:19
  light
• 34:20
  software
• 34:20
  piracy.
• 34:21
  There
• 34:21
  was
• 34:21
  also
• 34:21
  some
• 34:22
  aggressive
• 34:22
  software
• 34:22
  piracy,
• 34:23
  but
• 34:23
  that
• 34:23
  wasn't
• 34:23
  really
• 34:23
  my
• 34:23
  part
• 34:24
  of
• 34:24
  the
• 34:24
  world.
• 34:24
  Like
• 34:25
  there
• 34:25
  was
• 34:25
  absolutely
• 34:26
  harassment.
• 34:26
  There
• 34:26
  was
• 34:26
  one
• 34:27
  point
• 34:27
  when
• 34:27
  I
• 34:27
  was,
• 34:27
  you
• 34:28
  know,
• 34:28
  I
• 34:28
  did
• 34:28
  something
• 34:28
  stupid
• 34:29
  as
• 34:29
  a
• 34:29
  13
• 34:29
  year
• 34:29
  old
• 34:30
  that
• 34:30
  caused
• 34:31
  somebody
• 34:32
  to
• 34:32
  call
• 34:33
  up
• 34:33
  my
• 34:33
  home,
• 34:33
  you
• 34:34
  know,
• 34:34
  my
• 34:34
  parents
• 34:34
  home
• 34:34
  answering
• 34:35
  machine
• 34:35
  and
• 34:36
  leave
• 34:36
  a
• 34:37
  threatening
• 34:37
  voicemail.
• 34:38
  And
• 34:38
  it
• 34:39
  was
• 34:39
  scary.
• 34:40
  That
• 34:40
  is
• 34:40
  scary.
• 34:41
  It
• 34:41
  was
• 34:41
  all
• 34:41
  local
• 34:41
  stuff.
• 34:42
  It
• 34:42
  was
• 34:42
  not
• 34:43
  global
• 34:43
  on
• 34:44
  the
• 34:44
  Internet
• 34:44
  at
• 34:44
  an
• 34:45
  insane
• 34:45
  scale.
• 34:46
  It's
• 34:46
  wild.
• 34:47
  Yeah.
• 34:47
  I'm
• 34:48
  curious
• 34:48
  if
• 34:48
  you
• 34:49
  could
• 34:49
  talk
• 34:50
  a
• 34:50
  little
• 34:50
  bit
• 34:50
  about
• 34:50
  kind
• 34:51
  of
• 34:51
  like
• 34:52
  your
• 34:53
  builder
• 34:53
  journey
• 34:54
  and
• 34:54
  like
• 34:55
  some
• 34:55
  of
• 34:55
  the
• 34:55
  first
• 34:55
  projects
• 34:56
  you
• 34:56
  worked
• 34:56
  on
• 34:56
  and
• 34:57
  then
• 34:57
  maybe
• 34:58
  also
• 34:58
  touch
• 34:58
  a
• 34:59
  little
• 34:59
  bit
• 34:59
  on
• 34:59
  the
• 35:00
  sort
• 35:00
  of
• 35:00
  hardware
• 35:01
  era
• 35:01
  where
• 35:01
  you
• 35:01
  and
• 35:02
  Sarah's
• 35:02
  paths
• 35:03
  crossed.
• 35:04
  Sure.
• 35:05
  I
• 35:05
  mean
• 35:05
  I
• 35:05
  started
• 35:06
  playing
• 35:06
  with
• 35:06
  computers
• 35:07
  when
• 35:07
  I
• 35:07
  was
• 35:07
  probably
• 35:08
  in
• 35:08
  first
• 35:08
  or
• 35:09
  second
• 35:09
  grade
• 35:10
  and
• 35:10
  that
• 35:10
  meant
• 35:10
  playing
• 35:11
  Colossal
• 35:11
  Cave
• 35:13
  adventure
• 35:14
  on
• 35:14
  a
• 35:14
  TRS8
• 35:15
  at
• 35:15
  my
• 35:15
  parents
• 35:15
  office.
• 35:16
  We
• 35:16
  had
• 35:17
  an
• 35:17
  Apple
• 35:17
  Iie
• 35:17
  at
• 35:17
  home.
• 35:18
  I
• 35:18
  learned
• 35:19
  little
• 35:19
  bits
• 35:19
  of
• 35:19
  BASIC
• 35:20
  and
• 35:20
  yeah,
• 35:21
  so
• 35:21
  I,
• 35:22
  you
• 35:22
  know,
• 35:23
  a
• 35:23
  lot
• 35:23
  of
• 35:23
  my
• 35:23
  early
• 35:23
  programming
• 35:24
  experience
• 35:24
  was
• 35:26
  bbss.
• 35:26
  It
• 35:26
  was
• 35:27
  like
• 35:27
  learning
• 35:27
  to
• 35:27
  write
• 35:27
  this,
• 35:28
  you
• 35:28
  know,
• 35:28
  write
• 35:28
  code
• 35:29
  for
• 35:29
  my
• 35:29
  own
• 35:29
  bbs.
• 35:30
  You
• 35:30
  know,
• 35:30
  I
• 35:30
  remember
• 35:31
  I
• 35:31
  spent
• 35:31
  weeks
• 35:32
  and
• 35:32
  weeks
• 35:32
  on
• 35:33
  making
• 35:33
  it
• 35:33
  so
• 35:34
  you
• 35:34
  could
• 35:34
  push
• 35:34
  the
• 35:34
  up
• 35:35
  and
• 35:35
  down
• 35:35
  arrows
• 35:36
  to
• 35:36
  go
• 35:36
  through
• 35:36
  the
• 35:37
  menu
• 35:37
  and
• 35:37
  the
• 35:37
  prompt
• 35:37
  on
• 35:38
  the
• 35:38
  bbs
• 35:39
  because
• 35:39
  I
• 35:39
  was,
• 35:39
  I
• 35:39
  was
• 35:40
  a
• 35:40
  kid
• 35:40
  and
• 35:40
  I
• 35:40
  was
• 35:41
  literally
• 35:41
  working
• 35:41
  out
• 35:41
  of
• 35:42
  a
• 35:42
  loose
• 35:42
  leaf
• 35:42
  binder
• 35:43
  of
• 35:44
  a
• 35:44
  reference
• 35:44
  manual.
• 35:45
  The
• 35:45
  first
• 35:46
  software
• 35:46
  package
• 35:47
  that
• 35:47
  I
• 35:47
  built
• 35:47
  that
• 35:47
  was
• 35:48
  at
• 35:48
  all
• 35:48
  widely
• 35:49
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• 35:49
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• 35:49
  a
• 35:49
  tool
• 35:50
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• 35:50
  request
• 35:50
  tracker
• 35:51
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• 35:51
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• 35:51
  It's
• 35:52
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• 35:52
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• 35:52
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• 35:53
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• 35:53
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• 35:53
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• 35:54
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• 35:54
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• 35:54
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• 35:55
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• 35:55
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• 35:55
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• 35:56
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• 35:56
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• 35:57
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• 35:58
  1995
• 36:01
  maybe.
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  And
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• 36:03
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• 36:03
  a
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  thing
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• 36:04
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• 36:04
  thing
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• 36:04
  built
• 36:05
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• 36:05
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• 36:06
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• 36:06
  And
• 36:07
  it
• 36:07
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• 36:07
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• 36:08
  lot
• 36:08
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• 36:08
  Perl
• 36:09
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  led
• 36:09
  me
• 36:10
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• 36:10
  into.
• 36:11
  I
• 36:11
  spent
• 36:11
  a
• 36:11
  couple
• 36:11
  years
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  as
• 36:12
  the
• 36:12
  project
• 36:12
  lead
• 36:13
  for
• 36:13
  the
• 36:13
  Perl
• 36:13
  programming
• 36:14
  language.
• 36:14
  And
• 36:15
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  I
• 36:15
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• 36:15
  the
• 36:15
  first
• 36:16
  person
• 36:16
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• 36:16
  Perl
• 36:17
  who
• 36:17
  ran
• 36:17
  the
• 36:17
  project,
• 36:17
  who
• 36:18
  was
• 36:18
  not
• 36:18
  one
• 36:19
  of
• 36:19
  our
• 36:19
  hardest
• 36:19
  core
• 36:19
  C
• 36:20
  hackers.
• 36:20
  Before
• 36:21
  that,
• 36:21
  we'd
• 36:21
  taken
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  the
• 36:22
  dudes
• 36:22
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• 36:22
  it
• 36:22
  was
• 36:22
  always
• 36:23
  dudes
• 36:23
  who
• 36:24
  knew
• 36:24
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• 36:24
  ins
• 36:24
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• 36:25
  outs
• 36:25
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• 36:25
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• 36:25
  compiler,
• 36:26
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• 36:27
  could
• 36:27
  hand
• 36:28
  code
• 36:28
  assembler,
• 36:29
  who
• 36:29
  knew
• 36:29
  the
• 36:29
  threading
• 36:29
  algorithm
• 36:30
  backwards
• 36:30
  and
• 36:30
  forwards.
• 36:31
  And
• 36:32
  we
• 36:32
  put
• 36:32
  them
• 36:32
  in
• 36:32
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• 36:33
  of
• 36:34
  applying
• 36:34
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• 36:35
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• 36:36
  design,
• 36:37
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• 36:37
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• 36:39
  release
• 36:39
  engineering,
• 36:41
  team
• 36:41
  leadership.
• 36:42
  And
• 36:42
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• 36:43
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• 36:44
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• 36:44
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• 36:45
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• 36:46
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• 36:46
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• 36:46
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• 36:46
  them
• 36:47
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• 36:47
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• 36:47
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• 36:47
  Many
• 36:48
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• 36:48
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• 36:48
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• 36:48
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• 36:48
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• 36:48
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• 36:49
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• 36:49
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• 36:49
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• 36:49
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• 36:49
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• 36:50
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• 36:50
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• 36:50
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• 36:51
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• 36:51
  wasting
• 36:51
  the
• 36:52
  things
• 36:52
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• 36:52
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• 36:52
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• 36:53
  the
• 36:53
  unique
• 36:53
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• 36:54
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• 36:55
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• 36:55
  hard
• 36:55
  problems
• 36:56
  on
• 36:57
  management
• 36:58
  stuff.
• 36:58
  And
• 36:59
  so
• 36:59
  I
• 36:59
  was
• 37:00
  the
• 37:00
  first
• 37:00
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• 37:00
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• 37:01
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• 37:01
  in
• 37:01
  who
• 37:01
  was
• 37:02
  really
• 37:02
  coming
• 37:02
  in.
• 37:03
  I've
• 37:03
  never
• 37:03
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• 37:03
  a
• 37:03
  great
• 37:04
  C
• 37:04
  hacker
• 37:05
  and
• 37:05
  so
• 37:06
  rather
• 37:06
  than
• 37:07
  us
• 37:07
  rolling
• 37:08
  a
• 37:08
  dev
• 37:08
  release
• 37:08
  whenever
• 37:09
  the
• 37:09
  project
• 37:09
  lead
• 37:10
  thought
• 37:10
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• 37:10
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• 37:10
  enough
• 37:11
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• 37:11
  I'm
• 37:12
  like,
• 37:12
  we're
• 37:12
  going
• 37:12
  to
• 37:13
  roll
• 37:13
  a
• 37:13
  dev
• 37:13
  release
• 37:13
  every
• 37:14
  month.
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  It's
• 37:14
  going
• 37:14
  to
• 37:15
  be
• 37:15
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• 37:15
  different
• 37:15
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• 37:15
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• 37:16
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• 37:16
  dev
• 37:16
  release
• 37:16
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• 37:17
  month
• 37:17
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• 37:18
  we're
• 37:18
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• 37:18
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• 37:18
  write
• 37:19
  down
• 37:19
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• 37:19
  process.
• 37:20
  One
• 37:20
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• 37:21
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• 37:21
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• 37:21
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• 37:21
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• 37:22
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• 37:22
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• 37:22
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• 37:22
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• 37:22
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• 37:23
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• 37:23
  update
• 37:23
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• 37:23
  process
• 37:24
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• 37:24
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• 37:24
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• 37:24
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• 37:25
  missed.
• 37:25
  And
• 37:25
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• 37:26
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• 37:26
  going
• 37:26
  to
• 37:26
  do
• 37:26
  an
• 37:26
  annual
• 37:27
  production
• 37:27
  release
• 37:28
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• 37:28
  we're
• 37:28
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• 37:29
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• 37:29
  rather
• 37:29
  than
• 37:29
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• 37:29
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• 37:30
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• 37:30
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• 37:31
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• 37:31
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• 37:32
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• 37:32
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• 37:32
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• 37:33
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• 37:34
  I'm
• 37:34
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• 37:35
  by
• 37:35
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• 37:35
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• 37:35
  some
• 37:35
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• 37:36
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• 37:37
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• 37:37
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• 37:38
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• 37:38
  to
• 37:39
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• 37:40
  And
• 37:40
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• 37:40
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• 37:40
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• 37:41
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• 37:41
  was
• 37:41
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• 37:41
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• 37:41
  Best
• 37:42
  Practical
• 37:42
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• 37:43
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• 37:43
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• 37:43
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• 37:43
  ticketing,
• 37:44
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• 37:44
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• 37:45
  system.
• 37:46
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• 37:46
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• 37:46
  a
• 37:47
  lot
• 37:47
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• 37:47
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• 37:47
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• 37:48
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• 37:48
  workflows,
• 37:49
  was
• 37:50
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• 37:50
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• 37:51
  was
• 37:52
  reverse
• 37:52
  engineering
• 37:53
  business.
• 37:53
  Like
• 37:54
  most
• 37:54
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• 37:54
  our
• 37:54
  money
• 37:54
  came
• 37:55
  from
• 37:55
  services
• 37:56
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• 37:56
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• 37:57
  was
• 37:57
  ostensibly
• 37:57
  like
• 37:58
  systems
• 37:59
  deployments,
• 38:00
  but
• 38:01
  most
• 38:01
  of
• 38:01
  it
• 38:01
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• 38:02
  really
• 38:02
  business
• 38:02
  process
• 38:03
  consulting.
• 38:04
  Android
• 38:04
  1.0
• 38:05
  came
• 38:05
  out
• 38:05
  and
• 38:06
  I
• 38:06
  bought
• 38:07
  a
• 38:07
  T
• 38:07
  Mobile
• 38:07
  G1
• 38:08
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• 38:08
  I
• 38:08
  had
• 38:08
  sworn
• 38:09
  I
• 38:09
  wasn't
• 38:09
  going
• 38:09
  to
• 38:09
  buy
• 38:10
  the
• 38:10
  first
• 38:10
  Android
• 38:11
  phone.
• 38:11
  It
• 38:12
  was.
• 38:12
  It
• 38:12
  had
• 38:12
  a
• 38:12
  keyboard
• 38:13
  and
• 38:13
  it.
• 38:13
  Yeah,
• 38:13
  and
• 38:13
  it
• 38:13
  flipped
• 38:14
  up.
• 38:14
  It
• 38:14
  was
• 38:14
  kind
• 38:14
  of
• 38:14
  like,
• 38:15
  kind
• 38:15
  of
• 38:15
  like
• 38:15
  the
• 38:15
  Sidekick.
• 38:16
  Like
• 38:16
  I
• 38:17
  had
• 38:17
  seen
• 38:17
  one
• 38:17
  that
• 38:17
  a
• 38:18
  friend
• 38:18
  who
• 38:18
  was
• 38:18
  a
• 38:18
  Googler
• 38:18
  had
• 38:19
  and
• 38:19
  I'm
• 38:19
  like,
• 38:19
  this
• 38:19
  is
• 38:19
  garbage,
• 38:20
  I
• 38:20
  don't
• 38:20
  want
• 38:20
  one.
• 38:21
  And
• 38:21
  friend
• 38:22
  Riv,
• 38:22
  you
• 38:22
  know,
• 38:23
  waited
• 38:23
  in
• 38:23
  line
• 38:23
  at
• 38:23
  T
• 38:23
  Mobile
• 38:24
  that
• 38:24
  first
• 38:24
  morning
• 38:25
  and
• 38:25
  she
• 38:25
  texted
• 38:26
  me
• 38:26
  from
• 38:26
  the
• 38:26
  phone,
• 38:26
  she's
• 38:27
  like,
• 38:27
  it
• 38:27
  has
• 38:28
  a
• 38:28
  keyboard,
• 38:28
  I
• 38:28
  love
• 38:29
  it.
• 38:29
  And
• 38:29
  I
• 38:30
  had
• 38:30
  one
• 38:30
  the
• 38:30
  next
• 38:30
  day
• 38:31
  and
• 38:31
  I
• 38:31
  discovered
• 38:31
  that
• 38:32
  Google's
• 38:33
  their
• 38:33
  non
• 38:33
  Gmail
• 38:34
  client
• 38:34
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• 38:34
  not
• 38:35
  support
• 38:35
  self
• 38:35
  signed
• 38:36
  certificates
• 38:36
  for
• 38:37
  people's
• 38:38
  IMAP
• 38:38
  servers
• 38:39
  so
• 38:39
  I
• 38:39
  couldn't
• 38:39
  check
• 38:39
  my
• 38:40
  email.
• 38:41
  So
• 38:41
  I
• 38:41
  forked
• 38:41
  the
• 38:41
  Android
• 38:42
  1.0
• 38:42
  email
• 38:42
  client
• 38:43
  so
• 38:43
  that
• 38:43
  I
• 38:43
  could
• 38:43
  have
• 38:43
  a
• 38:44
  self
• 38:44
  signed
• 38:44
  certificate
• 38:45
  and
• 38:45
  I
• 38:45
  open
• 38:45
  sourced
• 38:46
  it.
• 38:46
  I
• 38:46
  called
• 38:46
  it
• 38:47
  Canine
• 38:47
  because
• 38:48
  I
• 38:49
  aspired
• 38:49
  that
• 38:49
  it
• 38:49
  would
• 38:50
  be
• 38:50
  as
• 38:50
  good
• 38:50
  as
• 38:50
  Mutt,
• 38:51
  my
• 38:51
  favorite
• 38:52
  terminal
• 38:52
  email
• 38:52
  client
• 38:53
  but
• 38:53
  for
• 38:53
  Android
• 38:54
  Canine
• 38:54
  being
• 38:54
  the
• 38:55
  Android
• 38:55
  Mutt
• 38:55
  from
• 38:55
  Doctor
• 38:56
  who.
• 38:56
  And
• 38:57
  that
• 38:58
  was
• 38:58
  one
• 38:59
  of
• 38:59
  the
• 38:59
  first
• 39:00
  times
• 39:00
  that
• 39:00
  one
• 39:00
  of
• 39:00
  my
• 39:01
  hobby
• 39:01
  projects
• 39:02
  had
• 39:02
  insane
• 39:02
  product
• 39:03
  market
• 39:03
  fit.
• 39:04
  At
• 39:05
  its
• 39:05
  peak
• 39:05
  it
• 39:05
  was
• 39:05
  a
• 39:06
  couple
• 39:06
  of
• 39:06
  million
• 39:06
  daily
• 39:07
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• 39:07
  for
• 39:08
  just
• 39:08
  for
• 39:09
  Funsies
• 39:09
  project.
• 39:10
  I
• 39:10
  built
• 39:11
  a
• 39:11
  community
• 39:11
  of
• 39:11
  contributors.
• 39:13
  I
• 39:13
  eventually
• 39:13
  handed
• 39:14
  it
• 39:14
  off
• 39:14
  and
• 39:14
  ran
• 39:15
  screaming
• 39:15
  and
• 39:15
  switched
• 39:16
  to
• 39:16
  iOS
• 39:16
  to
• 39:16
  get
• 39:16
  away
• 39:16
  from
• 39:17
  it.
• 39:18
  So
• 39:18
  I
• 39:18
  uploaded
• 39:19
  the
• 39:19
  code
• 39:19
  to
• 39:19
  Google
• 39:20
  Code,
• 39:20
  which
• 39:21
  was
• 39:21
  Google's
• 39:21
  GitHub
• 39:22
  competitor.
• 39:23
  I
• 39:23
  had
• 39:23
  to
• 39:23
  pay
• 39:24
  the
• 39:24
  $20
• 39:24
  to
• 39:25
  put
• 39:25
  it
• 39:25
  on
• 39:25
  the
• 39:25
  Android
• 39:25
  market
• 39:26
  and
• 39:28
  that's
• 39:28
  what
• 39:28
  I
• 39:28
  did.
• 39:29
  And
• 39:29
  so
• 39:29
  now
• 39:30
  Canine
• 39:30
  still
• 39:31
  exists,
• 39:32
  it
• 39:32
  got
• 39:32
  adopted.
• 39:32
  It
• 39:33
  is
• 39:33
  now
• 39:33
  Thunderbird
• 39:34
  for
• 39:34
  Android
• 39:34
  which
• 39:34
  is
• 39:35
  super
• 39:35
  cool.
• 39:35
  I
• 39:35
  have
• 39:36
  never
• 39:36
  been
• 39:36
  particularly
• 39:37
  good
• 39:37
  at
• 39:38
  figuring
• 39:38
  out
• 39:38
  distribution.
• 39:39
  It
• 39:39
  has
• 39:39
  always
• 39:40
  been.
• 39:41
  I
• 39:41
  just
• 39:41
  put
• 39:42
  it
• 39:42
  out
• 39:42
  there
• 39:42
  and
• 39:44
  sometimes
• 39:44
  it
• 39:44
  catches
• 39:45
  and
• 39:45
  sometimes
• 39:45
  it
• 39:45
  doesn't.
• 39:46
  That's
• 39:46
  the
• 39:46
  dream.
• 39:47
  Yeah,
• 39:48
  I
• 39:48
  mean
• 39:49
  it's
• 39:49
  a
• 39:49
  little
• 39:49
  weird
• 39:49
  to
• 39:50
  have
• 39:50
  my
• 39:51
  10k
• 39:51
  of
• 39:51
  markdown
• 39:52
  that
• 39:52
  was.
• 39:53
  Hey
• 39:54
  everybody,
• 39:54
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• 39:54
  how
• 39:54
  I
• 39:54
  use
• 39:54
  Claude
• 39:55
  code.
• 39:56
  It
• 39:56
  is
• 39:56
  now
• 39:56
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• 39:57
  number
• 39:57
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• 39:57
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• 39:57
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• 39:58
  plugin
• 39:58
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• 39:59
  Claude
• 39:59
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• 39:59
  As
• 40:00
  of
• 40:00
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• 40:01
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• 40:01
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• 40:02
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• 40:02
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• 40:03
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• 40:03
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• 40:03
  the
• 40:03
  official
• 40:03
  Anthropic
• 40:04
  plugin
• 40:04
  store
• 40:05
  had
• 40:05
  295,000
• 40:07
  installs.
• 40:08
  Wow.
• 40:09
  GitHub
• 40:10
  Stars
• 40:10
  is
• 40:10
  like
• 40:11
  more
• 40:12
  than
• 40:12
  React
• 40:12
  and
• 40:12
  Typescript
• 40:13
  now.
• 40:13
  Crazy.
• 40:15
  It's
• 40:15
  very
• 40:15
  weird.
• 40:16
  It's
• 40:16
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• 40:17
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• 40:17
  I
• 40:17
  mean
• 40:17
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• 40:18
  I
• 40:18
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• 40:18
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• 40:18
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• 40:18
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• 40:18
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• 40:18
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• 40:19
  I
• 40:19
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• 40:19
  like
• 40:19
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• 40:19
  very
• 40:20
  happy
• 40:20
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• 40:20
  I
• 40:20
  made
• 40:20
  a
• 40:21
  thing
• 40:21
  that
• 40:21
  is
• 40:21
  useful
• 40:21
  for
• 40:21
  people.
• 40:22
  It
• 40:22
  is
• 40:22
  still
• 40:23
  mind
• 40:23
  boggling
• 40:23
  to
• 40:24
  me
• 40:24
  that
• 40:25
  it
• 40:25
  has
• 40:25
  the
• 40:25
  uptake
• 40:26
  it
• 40:26
  does.
• 40:26
  And
• 40:26
  like
• 40:27
  I've
• 40:27
  done
• 40:27
  a
• 40:27
  bunch
• 40:27
  of
• 40:27
  other
• 40:27
  stuff
• 40:28
  along
• 40:28
  the
• 40:28
  way.
• 40:28
  For
• 40:29
  the
• 40:29
  last
• 40:29
  10
• 40:30
  years
• 40:30
  my
• 40:30
  wife
• 40:30
  and
• 40:30
  I
• 40:30
  ran
• 40:30
  a
• 40:31
  tiny
• 40:31
  little
• 40:31
  hardware
• 40:31
  company.
• 40:32
  We
• 40:32
  made
• 40:32
  fancy
• 40:33
  computer
• 40:33
  keyboard,
• 40:34
  keyboard
• 40:34
  IO,
• 40:35
  keyboardIO,
• 40:35
  milled
• 40:36
  hardwood
• 40:36
  enclosures,
• 40:37
  sculpted
• 40:37
  keycaps.
• 40:38
  We
• 40:38
  did
• 40:39
  a
• 40:39
  couple
• 40:39
  million
• 40:39
  dollars
• 40:40
  across,
• 40:40
  I
• 40:41
  think
• 40:41
  four
• 40:41
  keyboard
• 40:42
  Kickstarters.
• 40:43
  And
• 40:43
  yeah,
• 40:44
  that's
• 40:44
  where
• 40:44
  I
• 40:44
  first
• 40:44
  met
• 40:44
  Sarah
• 40:45
  was
• 40:45
  we
• 40:45
  had
• 40:45
  run
• 40:46
  through
• 40:46
  Highway
• 40:46
  1,
• 40:47
  the
• 40:47
  accelerator
• 40:47
  we
• 40:48
  went
• 40:48
  through
• 40:48
  in
• 40:48
  the
• 40:48
  batch
• 40:49
  before
• 40:49
  Sarah
• 40:49
  did
• 40:50
  and
• 40:50
  then
• 40:50
  yeah,
• 40:51
  and
• 40:51
  when
• 40:51
  she,
• 40:51
  when
• 40:51
  she
• 40:52
  was
• 40:52
  doing
• 40:52
  Jewel
• 40:52
  bots,
• 40:52
  and
• 40:53
  I
• 40:53
  don't
• 40:53
  think
• 40:53
  I
• 40:53
  have
• 40:53
  any
• 40:54
  great
• 40:54
  embarrassing
• 40:54
  stories.
• 40:55
  I'm
• 40:55
  very
• 40:55
  sorry.
• 40:56
  Okay,
• 40:58
  that's
• 40:58
  great.
• 40:58
  I'll
• 40:59
  forgive
• 40:59
  you.
• 40:59
  Yeah,
• 40:59
  I'll
• 41:00
  forgive
• 41:00
  you.
• 41:00
  So
• 41:00
  if
• 41:00
  someone's
• 41:01
  listening
• 41:01
  and
• 41:01
  they
• 41:01
  want
• 41:01
  to
• 41:02
  get
• 41:02
  started
• 41:02
  using
• 41:03
  Superpowers,
• 41:05
  how
• 41:05
  do
• 41:05
  they
• 41:05
  get
• 41:05
  started?
• 41:05
  If
• 41:06
  you're
• 41:06
  using
• 41:06
  Claude
• 41:07
  code,
• 41:07
  it's
• 41:08
  real
• 41:08
  easy.
• 41:08
  You
• 41:08
  install
• 41:09
  Claud
• 41:09
  code
• 41:09
  and
• 41:10
  you
• 41:10
  type
• 41:10
  plugin,
• 41:11
  and
• 41:11
  I
• 41:12
  think
• 41:12
  it's
• 41:12
  probably
• 41:12
  the
• 41:13
  second
• 41:13
  plugin
• 41:13
  in
• 41:13
  the
• 41:14
  list.
• 41:14
  If
• 41:14
  it's
• 41:15
  not,
• 41:15
  you
• 41:15
  go
• 41:15
  to
• 41:15
  the
• 41:16
  official
• 41:16
  Anthropic
• 41:17
  plugin
• 41:17
  marketplace
• 41:18
  and
• 41:18
  you
• 41:18
  pick
• 41:18
  it.
• 41:18
  If
• 41:19
  you're
• 41:19
  using
• 41:19
  Cursor,
• 41:20
  it's
• 41:20
  in
• 41:20
  the
• 41:20
  Cursor
• 41:21
  marketplace.
• 41:22
  If
• 41:22
  you're
• 41:23
  using
• 41:24
  Codex
• 41:25
  or
• 41:26
  Copilot,
• 41:27
  you
• 41:27
  have
• 41:27
  to
• 41:27
  go
• 41:28
  to
• 41:28
  GitHub.com
• 41:29
  obra
• 41:30
  O
• 41:30
  B
• 41:30
  R
• 41:31
  A
• 41:31
  Superpowers
• 41:33
  and
• 41:33
  you
• 41:34
  could
• 41:34
  actually
• 41:34
  probably
• 41:34
  just
• 41:34
  paste
• 41:35
  that
• 41:35
  URL
• 41:36
  into
• 41:36
  your
• 41:36
  agent
• 41:37
  and
• 41:37
  say,
• 41:37
  hey,
• 41:37
  can
• 41:37
  you
• 41:37
  help
• 41:37
  me
• 41:38
  install
• 41:38
  this?
• 41:38
  Well,
• 41:39
  thank
• 41:39
  you
• 41:39
  for
• 41:39
  coming
• 41:39
  and
• 41:40
  talking
• 41:40
  to
• 41:40
  us
• 41:40
  about
• 41:40
  this.
• 41:41
  It's
• 41:41
  really
• 41:41
  interesting
• 41:42
  and
• 41:42
  thanks
• 41:42
  for
• 41:42
  making
• 41:42
  it.
• 41:43
  Like
• 41:43
  I
• 41:43
  said,
• 41:43
  it's
• 41:43
  so
• 41:44
  useful.
• 41:44
  I'm
• 41:44
  really
• 41:44
  thrilled
• 41:45
  that
• 41:45
  it
• 41:45
  is
• 41:45
  actually
• 41:45
  useful
• 41:46
  to
• 41:46
  people
• 41:46
  and
• 41:46
  I'm
• 41:47
  really
• 41:47
  happy
• 41:47
  to
• 41:47
  come
• 41:48
  chat.
• 41:48
  Thanks
• 41:49
  for
• 41:49
  having
• 41:49
  me.