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Voom Vroom Wednesdays dives into MotoGP USA Round 3 in S6 Ep 20 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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Listen to the be forever cool podcast.
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My name is Rex 5. This tonight is groom groom
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Wednesdays old head Jamaicans. It's like Weddy Weddy but
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talking about motorcycles and. We're having a good.
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Time Moto GP just happened. Excited about that up yesterday.
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So. World Super Bike Moto 2 because
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a lot happened even super sport and this super sport, the sport
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bike class cause motorcycle racing is changing a little bit
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and I'm and I'm excited about it.
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But you know, I got to bring the guys in and see what they're up
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to and we're going to have a good time tonight.
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Master be forever cool podcast Tyson man welcome to the show
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man. How you doing tonight?
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I'm doing well, especially after not feeling so well for the last
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couple days. It's good to feel good again.
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Right. And you almost do like the the
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three count, like back in the days, those cartoons when you
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know they're sinking underwater. Pretty much.
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Saved. Yeah, pretty much.
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No doubt it's never fun. You must be almost getting
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ready. You must be ready for the race
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season because it's May, May 1st weekend in May up that way.
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Yep, I think it's another month now.
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I think I still have to get my license, still need to apply for
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that or pay for it. But yeah, I'll be ready.
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Soil change or two and I'll be good to go.
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Right, Yeah, The only downside is if someone else gets your
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number. What other?
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It happened a couple years ago. I was 415 and then I like was
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just being lazy and I registered and I got my number and so like
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damn it. So I just, I was like, well,
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maybe there's another 14 somewhere.
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So I switched to 417. I swear to God if someone has
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417 this year I'll be. Pissed No, I, I hear you.
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For me, I, I think I, when I first started, I was clueless.
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So I got like my prefix to my cell phone and then I was just
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like, oh, let me get something clever.
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So I was trying to get 45, but you can't get 45 into your, you
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can't get double digits into your expert.
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So I was like, all right, 1:45 So I was 145 for the longest for
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all I was able to become an expert.
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Now it's like pretty much most of the clubs on the East Coast
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and vice numbers 45, except for like Loudon and down Pan
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American series. But as soon as 45 frees up, I'm
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stacking that number up man. Waiting for it.
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It's for real. We bring the rest of the guys in
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and so we can talk about both the GP and World Super Bike.
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Jordan, man, welcome to the show folks.
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I don't want you to confuse this Jordan for Jordan #1 this is
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Jordan #2 I'm just, I'm just being silly.
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Welcome to the show, man. How you doing tonight?
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Not too bad, not too bad. Thank you Rexy for having me on.
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Nice man, you were just that Koda.
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So you got to side in person, up close and all that fun stuff.
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Was this your first time going to Koda or your repeat offender?
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It was my first time at Koda's second Moto GP event that I was
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able to go to. Oh man, what was the first one?
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First one was last year. It was definitely a bucket list
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race. I went to Modello, Italy and I
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did the, I did the, I did the full VIP apex package.
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I got to go to the garages, I got to meet the riders.
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I missed Valentino Rossi by about two minutes.
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And as you can tell, I'm a Valentino Rossi guy.
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Amazing time. Yeah, I went in 2018 and yeah,
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it was, it was amazing. I I, you know, I should know who
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was on the podium. It was, I think it was Rossi,
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Lorenzo and Dobby. And you know, I, I don't know
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about you for you last year when you went, but I wish I camped
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out there because the amount of people that camped out and, and
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like, was it the second day? The second day I took a nap on
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the hill so. That the atmosphere there is
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second to none and especially the guy with a 2 stroke with the
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megaphone all day just it get the blood going you know?
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Oh yeah, man, for sure, man. No, that's definitely, I think
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if anyone can go to Moto GP track, that's definitely the one
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to go to cuz you're going to have one.
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I mean, we're going to keep it moving, get it, get everyone in
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man. Lewis, last but not least, the
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numbers guy, man, you know, you're hard to, you know, to get
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on an Excel spreadsheet these days, man.
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What's going? On No, I've been, I've been
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busy. So first I want to apologize to
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everybody for not being on the last couple of episodes.
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I've been super busy traveling. I saw Reese picked up some of
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the slack talking crap on my behalf.
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So I thank Reese for that. But he's got a chill.
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He doesn't want this kind of heat that I get for saying some
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of the things that I say. Yeah, the pod can't afford this
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many body parts. So.
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So yes, I'm glad to be back. You know, I've been wanting to
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speak about motorcycles for the past two weeks.
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I just haven't had the opportunity to be free.
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I mean, you know, right now I feel like I'm taking Reese's
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spot because usually Reese is the one driving when we're on
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the podcast and I'm sitting at the desk.
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I know. I mean, this is almost the
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equivalent. I don't know if you've seen the
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memes of, you know, they're doing a team's meeting and one
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guy's on a motorcycle, his on the team's meeting with his
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camera on. So you know, it's almost the
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same thing even though you're in a car.
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I'm still in the meeting, man. I'm still in the meeting.
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I'm ready to to talk about all the things that I kind of missed
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out on and all the new things that have popped up.
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This weekend was incredible. You guys were just talking about
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going to Europe and seeing a Moto GP.
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The number one place to watch a number of Moto GP is the last
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race of the season in Jarez. That is the ultimate place to
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watch a Moto. GPI don't care what anybody
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says. Haven't been to Moto GPS all
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over the world. Perez is a different animal.
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Just because of the way the track is constructed.
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It almost feels like you're watching a supercross race
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because it's it's a stadium and anywhere you sit in the stadium,
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you can see almost every other part of the track and the
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atmosphere there is next level. I mean, you know, it's just a,
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it's a different animal. It's the end of the year.
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The crowds are insane. And what you were talking about
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camping there. There's a lot of things in Moto
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GP when we go to the CODA that when you go to Europe, it's
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completely different. It's a completely different way
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of organizing things in Europe than it is here at CODA.
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So yeah, yeah, we need to, you know, once that once we get
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some, some really good ad money, maybe the whole team can go to
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Europe together. Listen, you, you put it out to
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the universe, man. Now, now it's going to happen
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for sure. You know what I'm saying?
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Make sure our passports are ready because we might, we might
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be going to her as at the end of the year.
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What's going on, fella? Fellas, you know this week, in
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this past week and it's been crazy.
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It's the third round, I think all the rounds so far.
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I don't know if it's part of the offseason banter that we have
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seen and and also been a part of with all the trade rumors and
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who's going to do what with these rookies and stuff like
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that. And I know Brazil with the
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weather that that put a big monkey wrench in things for
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everything. And and we saw a lot of
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crashing, but in Coda we saw a lot of crashing and the weather
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wasn't as crazy. So, you know, we'll go around
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the horn and and just give her an overview of what you thought
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of the weekend in your own words.
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We start with Tyson, man, you know?
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What do you think of the weekend in Coda?
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I enjoyed the race quite a bit. This certainly was a bit of
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crashing. I think that's for, you know,
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various reasons. But yeah, I enjoyed it quite a
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bit. It was good to see top rack
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getting his first point. Did enjoy seeing that.
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But yeah, it's really showing that I probably have bought.
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I've brought a damn good bike this year.
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Like that is a good bike. I'm I'm ready to, you know, like
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to owner and like Tourette. Trading our Ducatis for Aprilia
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that. RSV four.
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Wait a minute, Rondelle. No, no, no, I I learned a little
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while ago, I'm just going to keep adding until, until, until
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I'm ready to sell them all because it's I still remember
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the ones I sold and I was like, oh man, I should have kept
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those. So you know, but the Aprilia is
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definitely I it's good to see. I mean, we saw with Ducati, we
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got, we saw a glimpse of good talk.
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We talked Ducati when they first came into Moto GP and then, you
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know, 2019-2020, what they've been able to do and the
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struggles with Aprilia. I mean, you had riders, you
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know, Joe Roberts and some of these other guys that didn't
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want to sign to Aprilia Once Upon a time, you know what I'm
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saying? And, and so to see where they're
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at now, you know, for those guys that got to pull your shirts,
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it's a good feeling. Jordan, man, you were there in
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person. You've been to a couple Moto GP
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rounds, maybe even more, you know, What was your thought of
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the weekend, the experience and and and what you saw on on
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track? My thought top to bottom, it was
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a very good weekend. I will say the hospitality here
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in at Coda lacks tremendously to any race over in Europe and we
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need to fix that sadly. But other than that, top to
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bottom, I had a great weekend. On my way to the track, race
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day, I had Mark Marquez literally right behind me in the
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vehicle. I got a nice little vehicle.
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I wanted to jump out, but the light turned green and you know,
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I had to make a decision. Other than that, I ran into a
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bunch of riders. I got a bunch of autographs.
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It was great to see Top Rack in his first points.
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That's one of my favorite riders.
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I've been saying for about the last four years I wanted him in
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Moto GP. Finally it's happening and look
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at the results and it just looks awesome.
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Other than that, my one of my favorite riders starting the
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season was Marco Bazecki. I met him last year, got a
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picture. I have his autograph and from
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then he's in the VR 46 camp. He has just been absolutely on
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fire. And I'll tell you, I ran into
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him, I think it was Friday morning, my first day there.
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I took the wrong entrance. The VIP wasn't open yet and he
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literally walked right by me. I ended up stopping him, told
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him, hey, I met you last year. I shook his hand.
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I said, listen, you're my favorite rider right there.
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Go out there and kick ass. So for him to go on and win the
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race, and I also bought a nice autographed memento that he
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signed out the track that day, so I think the value just went
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up. Nice, nice.
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We're going to talk about the amenities and, and stuff like
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that. Let's get Lewis in 'cause I know
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he, he's crunching the numbers already.
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Man, what part of the week? And you were there, you know,
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you get to see a different view. You know, I, I was, I, I was
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thinking about this earlier today and you know, it's kind of
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like, you know, and, and having, you know, Jordan on when I
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reached out when, when we connected and it was going to
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have on and, and you know, what shakes is the one that connected
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us, right? So and, and, and, you know, he's
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like, I'm a super fan. And I was like, I remember when
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I was a super fan thinking about music, but like when I started
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playing music and, and being on the other side, like I'm a fan
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of it. And but it's not the same thing
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and the same thing with race. And it's like, it's like I'm a
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fan of watching racing. But if you ask me, can I hang
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out with all these Moto GP riders and hang out and party or
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get on a bike and go on go on a Mojelo.
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I'm going to Mojelo all day long, you know what I mean?
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So it's a different perspective when you're when you're behind
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the scenes. So like, what was it like for
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you at the track this weekend? I mean, for me it's, it's, I
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love the racing part. So whenever the races on, you
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know, we stop working and we watch the races on TV more than
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anything else. Like we're in the support
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paddock and we'll stop and watch the race on TV.
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So it's almost like if you look at the team members, when the
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riders go out, once they go out, all the members of the team come
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inside and they're just standing there like this looking at the
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TV screens for the entire race. And that's how we are.
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Like we're doing so much stuff during the entire weekend that
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when it's race time, it's good for us because we're not
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working. And we're just sitting there and
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watching it on TV and it's like, yeah, it's right outside the
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door. It's like, I don't want to go
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outside. It's it's hot, man.
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I'm just going to watch it on TV.
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So it's like being at a baseball game and watching it on your
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phone or being at a basketball game and watching it on your
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phone. Like that's the experience we
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have. We still enjoy it, but it
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doesn't have like, for us the the allure.
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For instance, like, you know, Vietay recommended that we go to
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eat at a place one night and we went to eat at that place.
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And when we got back the next day, we're like, we might not
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sign you next week. That place sucks.
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Like you, you sent us to eat at the worst.
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They said, oh, but I really liked it.
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I was like, yeah, because the chicks there were half naked,
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but the food was horrible. Yeah.
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So it's a different experience. Yeah, I listen, man.
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I mean, at least you're you're in a position where you can you
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can say something like that to be 8 day.
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It's not everyone else was just not, you're like, all right,
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just don't take advice. I mean, the same thing with
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Martine because they were talking about, I saw an
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interview with him in a racer. No, it wasn't Martine.
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It was Bizecki. And it was like, I think it was
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the Young Motor Junior Cup. It was Hank Bosberg because we
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actually connected him together to do that interview.
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So yeah, exactly. And he was talking about a
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burger and what he wanted on a burger, and he's like a burger
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and cheese. And I think that was it.
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I was like, oh man, he means he needs to get a good burger.
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But you know enough about Food Guys.
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So the weekend happened. We saw a lot of crashes.
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We saw a lot of change in Fast Guys, you know, before you guys
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got to the weekend. I mean, you know, for me, I, I
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thought like Aprilia was going to do it, but I also thought
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some of the Ducati riders and KTM riders would have, would
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have done something. You know what?
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What did you think, you know, between practice to and and and
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qualifying? Because we saw, you know, the
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top five riders change a lot. We start with Tyson, man.
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I mean, I figured that the Ducatis and the Aprilias would
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probably be fighting for, you know, top spot into qualifying
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and Pedro could, you know, make an attempt at it as well a cost.
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But there's just that sneaking just the way the Aprilias have
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been riding lately. That's like, I don't know if the
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Ducatis have it anymore, like maybe for a poll, but like, can
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they hold on to it? You know, like they might get
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poll, but I'm like some in previous years that grabbed that
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pole and you'd be like, OK, well, the race is over.
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Like Ducati is going to win this.
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But like now it's like, I mean, Marco Butseki is winning from
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4th, 5th place on the, you know, the starting grid.
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And Jorge Martine too, he was a what, 3rd, 4th and he won the
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Sprint. So it's tough.
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No, I, I, I, I agree, man. It is.
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It was pretty wild to see because, you know, I think
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everyone thought that Mark was going to run away with it this
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week, this year, right? It was, I think, you know, we're
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all sitting here at the beginning of the season saying,
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you know, Marquez was, I mean, it was going to be the guy to do
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it. We even felt like Alex was going
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to be #2 and everyone else was going to be trailing behind.
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And now, you know, we see back Nadia is, is, you know,
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finishing second on the on the Sprint, could have probably won
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the Sprint if he didn't get, you know, punted out the way by his
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good buddy. Oh, hey, Martine, who, you know,
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hasn't you know, I, I get a lot of knowledge that I can use, but
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I'll leave it there. What are your thoughts Jordan
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on, you know, Aprilia and Ducati and just swapping around as far
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as you know, FP2 and and and qualifying 1 and 2?
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Yeah, so I thought Digia looked very strong, and especially
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going into the main race, I didn't expect Iagara to do so
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well and come on so strong. It was heartbreaking to see him
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go out like that after such a performance.
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But I did expect Digia and Mark. I thought coming into this they
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were going to settle a few things from the previous rounds
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and I really do like how Digia is riding.
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He's a fearless guy. He's a guy that's not scared of
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Mark. You see some riders, in my
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opinion, they ride as if they're a little weary as Mark and they
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give him a little too much respect.
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In my eyes, a guy like that, you just got to send it up the
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inside and, you know, race him exactly how he races everybody
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else. And that's what I see Digia
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doing in the main race. I thought he was going to finish
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a little bit higher, but other than that, the Aprilia's kind of
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with Bazecki. I, he was my favorite coming in
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and I'm, I'm just glad he was able to fulfill the dream.
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The only thing is he does have to figure out the Sprint
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Saturdays. He has the main race figured
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out. It just seems early on.
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Maybe if they'd start their homework a little bit earlier
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and worked with, you know, the soft tire seems to be his a
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little bit of Achilles heel. But other than that, race kind
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of went how I wanted. I'm not too much of A Mark fan.
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I respect the hell out of him, fast as hell, but some of the
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way how he races, it's glad. I was glad to see.
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Did you kind of sauce them up a little bit and come out on top?
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Right. No, I I agree with it with
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everything you say. You know, we, we have a pool of
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sorts going and I've yet to pick mark as getting on the podium.
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You're a. Rossi fan.
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That's why. I I respect it.
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No, no, no, I respect the hell out of them.
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I'm, I'm protesting. I'm doing it.
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Ducati shouldn't sign them in my eyes, because they didn't need
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they did. I mean, Lewis is going to tell
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me that you know how much he how much bikes and stuff he's
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selling and that's and he's probably 100% right.
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But from a fan perspective, Ducati would have won last year
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regardless who was riding a bike because they had the top bike
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lash. Maybe not because Mark was able
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to do something different on that 25 bike that Digia and and
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and back now you couldn't have done so.
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But anyway, I digress. Lewis man, you know?
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I, I, I, you didn't get a chance to pick, I think you got a
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couple of DNFS Be forever cool is like race direction.
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We make it up as we go along. So.
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We have a we have an internal betting pool at the office or
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inside the company and I did pretty good this weekend.
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My order was a little bit off for the Sprint, but I did have
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Mazeki, Martine, Mark, Pekko and Acosta in the top five for the
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Sprint. So the only, you know, I was
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only off a little bit there. And then for the main race I did
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have Bezeki Mark in second. I had Acosta in 3rd, Martine in
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4th and Pekko in 5th. So I had the right people, just
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not necessarily in the right order, you know, which happens.
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The only person that really showed something incredible for
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the me this weekend was Agura. And you know, I got to see him
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on Monday. Super nice, super shy guy,
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really quiet. But he was still kind of, you
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could tell that the dude was still a little bit dejected
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about what happened. He raced his heart out and, you
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know, the bike gave up on him. He didn't give up on the bike.
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So, but I, I think it showed that he had a, he has great
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potential And, and I, and that Aprilia is the bike to beat this
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year. You know, they showed it that
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the latter part of last year, they came out really strong.
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They found something, they put something together that really
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started to show consistency. And now they come into this year
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and they're, you know, their guys are the top, in the top 6
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to top seven constantly. Whereas Ducati is a little bit
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of a hodgepodge of, you know, first place, 5th place, 6th
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place, 8th place. You know, Alex Marquez is not
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having a good time in this year. Ferman Albaguer came in injured.
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Mark Marquez is still recouping from injury and maybe not 100%.
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And even though Peko has showed some flashes of brilliance, I
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mean he still hasn't been able to put the packs together that
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keeps him there till the end of the race.
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Yeah, I agree. He has not been able to put it
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together and Ducati is struggling.
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And and I think, you know, I, I said it last year and, and you
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know, we, I feel like Danny Pedrosa because it took a while
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for everyone else to to catch on and I, I don't know how they
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resolve the issues. I mean, it's still pretty early,
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but you know it, it's like these guys are all sharks, right?
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When you smell blood in the water, you know, you can make
23:00
miracles happen, even if Ducati sorts it out, which I assume
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they will let let's talk about the penalties and the penalties,
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lack of penalties, man, you guys were there.
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We'll start with Tyson 1st and then we'll get to Jordan.
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But like, you know, you saw them, Mark, Mark took out Digia.
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I I think that like, you know, since last year, last year, Mark
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wouldn't have made these kind of passes, right?
23:31
I mean, last year Mark was doing what Bez was doing, taking
23:34
himself out of first place because just trying to just do,
23:36
do a little bit too much. It it, it could be the shoulder,
23:40
it could be the bike. Why he has to ride like that?
23:43
What are your thoughts on, you know, Mark and and and and that
23:47
incident and you know, let's talk about the incident between
23:50
back Bagnaia and Hey, Martinez. Well, right, because there was
23:54
nothing there, but you know, it seems like they should have been
23:56
something there as well. What are your thoughts, Tyson?
23:59
Yeah, I think Mark was just, you know, the pressure of going
24:02
Dakota where it's kind of like his home away from home track
24:05
wise. He's everyone's expecting him to
24:08
win the race. He's expecting himself to win
24:10
the race. And I think he just, he just saw
24:13
his opportunity, what little opportunity he actually had and
24:17
went for it and made a mistake. And I mean, you're right, I
24:20
don't think he would have made that.
24:22
I mean, at the beginning of the season last year, he may have
24:24
made that same choice, but not the mark that won the
24:29
championship last year. I mean, he was very composed.
24:31
He kind of like, OK, I can win this easily, but I have to like
24:34
come home with points and just start chipping away at this
24:37
championship. And he easily did that last
24:40
year. But I don't think it's going to
24:42
look, he's going to have to put on like his superhero suit and
24:45
and win this championship if he he wants to walk away with it
24:48
this year. And there's quite a big hole
24:50
that's being dug already in these first 3 rounds.
24:53
Obviously there's a lot more to go.
24:54
Anything can happen. But yeah, if he's a previous,
24:57
just keep tacking on wins, it's going to be tough for him to
25:01
come back. But it wasn't the Petco and
25:04
Martine crash. That was just the rub in the in
25:06
the first corner. Yeah, yeah.
25:08
Was it, was it the first corner? Was it the back straight?
25:11
It's like running for the last, you know, steak and cheese or
25:13
the last TV. It might be a little bit colder
25:18
you. Know, yeah, I mean, I I can I
25:22
can see it either way. Like I probably wouldn't like if
25:25
I was given the choice personally, I'd be like, ah, you
25:27
know, a a little Robbins, a little race and kind of deal.
25:30
But the best pass should be, you know, the one, everyone, every
25:34
rider should pass like a IAGUA pass.
25:37
Did you? Yes, I agree, but they're not
25:41
all like that. I mean, Warbadeli's still on the
25:44
grid. OK.
25:45
Shockingly, hasn't done anything yet this year.
25:48
He'd had like an incident every race for like the first five
25:51
races last year, didn't he? It's not much you can.
25:54
It's not much you can do in 18th place, so fair enough.
25:59
Who really cares what happens back there?
26:03
Oh, man, yeah, do it, man. You know, what are your thoughts
26:05
with the incidents? You know, the, you know, between
26:08
Mark and and Didgia and also Pekko and Martine and also the,
26:15
the, the, the, the wheelie that that you cracked on are not a
26:19
good look. I mean, you know, did did
26:21
everybody kind of did in the stadium at the same time?
26:26
The The funny thing is actually, since I actually ducked right
26:31
into the VIP area as it was happening, I didn't find out
26:37
that it happened until I got home.
26:39
And I rewatched the race and I rewatched the interviews and I
26:42
was like, wait, wait a second. I I was there and I missed this.
26:46
So that to answer your question, I I fully missed it.
26:50
I must have been in in and out, but I was also beelining
26:53
backstage to try to get some autographs so.
26:56
I don't want. Mine.
26:58
But back to about Mark and the penalties, I will say on my way
27:03
to the on race day when I was coming in, I look behind me and
27:07
it was, this was out in town probably about 5 miles before we
27:11
even got to the track. I look behind me, there's Mark
27:14
Marquez in the GMC truck being driven and I'm at a stoplight.
27:18
So I'd look, but I tell you he was working his right arm the
27:23
whole time that I was looking in the rearview mirror pretty good
27:27
on the lead up. So I so I believe he's a little
27:31
that injury that he had was more serious than they led on to his
27:35
recovery time is taking a little bit longer.
27:38
Let's be honest. He is getting older and when
27:40
when you're older, you can have the best doctors in the world,
27:42
but the body is the body. So I think now he's starting to
27:45
feel it a little bit a the pressure BI don't think his body
27:50
is correct too. So I think he's what he's doing.
27:53
He's doing a lot of overriding and that's lead into some of the
27:56
penalties. And if we're being honest,
27:58
that's kind of what he's known for in the past.
28:00
And so it's kind of the old mark is showing itself, even though
28:03
this past year he's been on his, you know, the Ducati Very Good
28:07
Boy Tour. His last year seemed like he
28:10
fully changed. But now when you're not on the
28:12
best bike, when the pressure's on, it's starting to show.
28:17
Other than that, the other penalties or the lack thereof, I
28:22
think a lot of it while like Robin is racing a lot of close
28:25
incidents, but I think a lot of it was called pretty fair in the
28:30
in the main race I would say, yeah, that's my take all.
28:36
Right, All right. That's what's up.
28:37
Louis, man, did you break out your tape measure?
28:41
Should have Marquez signed the contract soon, The art before
28:44
the season started or we just got to stay calm.
28:47
No worries. No, you got to, I mean,
28:50
everybody that's saying that Marquez is under pressure, I
28:53
mean, there's only a handful of guys in this sport that can take
28:56
the pressure. Like these guys can take it,
28:58
especially Mark Rossi, Lorenzo. These guys, pressure is what
29:03
they eat. What?
29:04
You know they eat Brex pressure for breakfast.
29:06
Right. No doubt.
29:07
You know, so it's, it's and he, what pressure does he have?
29:10
He's a fucking millionaire. Oh, what are they going to find
29:13
me? You think that Ducati, if he
29:17
crashes every race to hear the end of the year, you think
29:19
Ducati still doesn't offer him a contract?
29:23
So the only difference that's happening this year versus last
29:25
year is the passes that he was getting away with last year.
29:29
He's not getting away with this year.
29:31
You know, the crash that he had with Digia last year, he does
29:34
that crash. I think what people are
29:36
underestimating is 1. He does have injuries.
29:39
He's still not recovered from the crash from last year where,
29:44
you know, he was taken out ceremoniously by Bez and injured
29:50
seriously. And if you look now, you know,
29:54
everybody is racing him very, very hard.
29:57
And they raced him hard before. But if you look when he was
30:00
between Digia and Pekko, it seemed like those motherfuckers
30:06
had a little extra incentive to race is super hard.
30:09
They didn't race each other hard.
30:11
So it seems like it's one guy out there racing like 7.
30:14
Hold. Hold on, Hold on.
30:15
Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
30:17
Wait, wait, Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
30:19
Lewis. Lewis last last year, Mark was
30:23
doing exactly the same thing these writers are doing to him
30:26
and we were sitting here saying who is going to challenge this
30:29
guy? Because it seems like everybody
30:30
just letting him do whatever. Now he's.
30:33
Because he was, because he was getting away with it, because he
30:37
had more speed, because remember, he also got injured on
30:40
Friday. You guys didn't see his hand.
30:42
It's not just his shoulders messed up.
30:44
His hand was jacked up the entire weekend.
30:46
So if you, I saw him on clothes, yeah.
30:49
Going backwards with gloves is not the way it's moving.
30:53
So the inside of his palm was jacked up.
30:56
I saw him when he was at his autograph signing and that
30:59
entire palm was scratched up, bandaged, everything else.
31:02
So the dudes racing with injuries, the dude's doing with
31:05
the best he can. The bike is obviously not as
31:08
good as it was last year or not as competitive.
31:10
So he's doing what he normally does is trying to make up with
31:12
a, with talent the previous, the better package.
31:17
He's still the better rider on the Ducati and I think he's
31:19
going to put it together at some point.
31:21
The thing is, you know, like we just, he just said he's not 21
31:27
anymore. When he gets injured, he doesn't
31:29
bounce back the next day. A cortisone shot alone doesn't
31:32
do it. You know, when you wake up the
31:34
next morning, you're stiff. That's that's age, man.
31:37
When you're 21, you crash the next day you wake up, you're
31:41
good to go. 30 something Those living teeth feel good, man.
31:47
Yeah, yeah, those ligaments, they they they, they go from
31:50
rubber to cement at some point. And then, you know, you realize
31:53
that one morning when you go to get out of bed and you start
31:56
hearing cracking and freaking and all kinds of noises you
31:58
never heard before from your back.
32:01
And I just think that's where he's at right now.
32:03
He just needs to, you know, keep racing.
32:04
Calm down. He is injured.
32:06
Let's see how serious this injury is, man.
32:09
Maybe that's one of the reasons he didn't sign the contract.
32:11
Maybe he's just like, you know what?
32:12
This might be my last year, maybe this injury is, you know,
32:16
I've got enough money. I'm only racing for the
32:20
opportunity to try to tie an all time championship, you know, put
32:25
myself in in the history books a little bit more than I already
32:28
am. There's no chance that 100 years
32:30
from now nobody's going to know the name Mark Marquez.
32:32
He's going to be remembered forever in this sport.
32:35
The dude is amazing. You know, it's him, Augustini,
32:37
Rossi. Those names will live on
32:39
forever. But, you know, maybe it's time
32:42
for him to just say, you know, let me get through the season,
32:44
see what I can do. Maybe that's why he hasn't
32:46
signed, man. Maybe he's just in that mindset
32:48
that maybe this is my last year, man, I'm just going to see what
32:50
I can do. Yeah, and I, I hear you, man.
32:52
You know, we, we, we see it in golf and and these sports.
32:56
I mean, you know, you know, you know.
32:58
Some records, I guess, like the the great Phil Jackson, are not
33:02
meant to be broken. And then as far as the rules,
33:06
you know, with the passing, you know, the problem is that they
33:11
set a very high bar from the rule in the very first race of
33:15
the season. And now every single time a pass
33:20
like that's made, it's always registered back to that first
33:23
time they use the rule. So if you set the bar really the
33:27
bar really high, you know, anytime something happens, we're
33:31
like, wait a second. They always referred back to the
33:34
first time. Is that another way of saying
33:36
they might be more consistent this year?
33:39
No, they're less consistent. They're Chipotle diarrhea
33:42
consistent. Like you could see the corn in
33:47
the consistency. That's how consistent their shit
33:49
is. Bro.
33:53
The the the rule is if you make a pass and the other person has
33:57
to adjust their line because you make a pass in a way that
34:01
interferes with their line, it's a penalty whether you make
34:06
contact or not. That's the the nature of the
34:08
rule, but it's not being applied that way.
34:11
For me a good pass is like a drive by shooting.
34:14
Nobody knows what happens until the body hits the ground.
34:18
Yes, yes, yes, we, we, we know a little bit about your history,
34:27
but you know, let's let me ask everyone this and I, I said this
34:31
before, I don't know if I asked you this, Lewis, you know, can
34:38
Martine save his seat with a perillion?
34:41
And I, and I think, I think you might have, you know, when I, if
34:44
he wins, you know, 13 Sprint races, you know, 15 GP races,
34:50
like if he wins the title, you know, 'cause it, it, you know,
34:54
we see coaches get fired after winning titles, We see people
34:57
get traded after winning titles and stuff like that.
35:01
You know, is this one of those situation where that old, old
35:06
mentality of like you wronged the situation, you got to pay?
35:11
I mean, 'cause you know, so is this one of the times you go
35:14
pass? Normally, normally I would say
35:18
winning cures everything. When you're winning, every
35:21
ailment is cured. Every pain stops happening as
35:25
soon as you start winning. Winning cures everything.
35:29
In this situation, he wronged a group of Italians, he wronged an
35:38
entire company. He embarrassed an entire company
35:41
publicly. Legally.
35:44
Publicly. Publicly, legally, in the eyes
35:48
of the people, he wronged this company, he he put them through
35:53
a social media and APR nightmare.
35:57
And I really don't think having knowing some of the people that
36:00
Piaggio that I know and knowing I even if he wins every Sprint
36:05
from down to the end of the year, even if he comes in second
36:07
of the championship, that second seed is going to Peko Bagnaya.
36:12
Listen, all I got to say is, you know, we've seen a lot of good
36:17
movies and books where the situation is they they triumph,
36:21
but it's not a win. Jordan, what are your thoughts
36:23
on the situation? Do you disagree with Lewis?
36:26
Should Piaggio say, look, man, let's just take this one on the
36:29
chin. Business is good.
36:32
I and I agree with him 100%. I, I was a massive Martin fan.
36:38
To see him win on a satellite team and then get passed up by
36:42
Mark Marquez. It was horrible to see in my
36:45
opinion. And then I, I always looked at
36:48
him with a chip on his shoulder. I wanted him to come in Aprilia
36:52
hit the ground running and I wanted him to take it to Mark
36:55
and take it to him. Fast, Fast forward a year, we
37:00
have the injuries and everything.
37:02
The man did not even have a chance to try the bike out
37:05
properly and then all of a sudden it's the bike and try to
37:08
leave. Like the gentleman said before
37:12
me, he wronged a whole manufacturer and the Italians
37:16
are they are a proud people and like he said, he'd win every
37:21
single race from here on out. I think the the the bridges
37:25
burned and I believe it's probably 9598% that he's going
37:30
straight to Yamaha. Come on, even if he says I was
37:32
on some strong opioids, I didn't know what I was saying.
37:35
You know what I'm saying? I shouldn't have been out there
37:37
in the first place. Yeah, it's crazy times.
37:44
Crazy times. Come on, Tyson man.
37:46
Tell, tell, tell us there's some hope in this situation here,
37:49
because I. Don't know.
37:52
On a, on a Aprilia, and I mean, I looking at him on the Aprilia,
37:57
it reminds me of Lorenzo on the, on the Yamaha.
38:01
Maybe he's like once he gets going, he's he's, he's, he's not
38:06
going to crash out like like some of the other people.
38:09
Yeah, I don't think that's going to save him.
38:12
I mean, just the irony though of him trying to initiate a
38:15
performance clause, you know, roughly ish a year ago and then
38:20
now here we are. They're the best bike on the
38:22
grid. Like, that is pretty wild.
38:24
Like the first couple of races of last season, they looked like
38:27
a solid third best bike, you know, and then just somehow just
38:31
turned it around to best bike. But yeah, no, he's boned.
38:34
I don't think they're going to. I've heard everyone's kind of
38:37
made a bunch of signings, but I haven't heard any of them
38:40
actually being official. So I'm wondering if all of these
38:42
are verbal contracts which any of these riders could break.
38:47
I'm not an insider so I have no idea but and if I mean it would
38:53
be possible would be my guess to break the verbal contract with
38:56
Pecco and sign Horne. I just don't think it's going to
38:58
happen if it is for you know, if that situation is available, it
39:03
won't happen. Right, because he's going to
39:05
Yamahata. I mean, who knows what that
39:07
Yamaha is going to be like? But it, it, it's, it's, it's not
39:15
a good look, you know, real I, and I'll say this about, well, I
39:18
guess we can all kind of touch on the rumors that we hear until
39:21
Moto GP says it or till one of these writers say it.
39:25
I, I, I, I just assume it's just people just waking up and
39:29
saying, what can I put out to the masses today?
39:31
And let's see what happened. But I see you, I see you.
39:34
Turn your head there, Lewis, so you might know something booby,
39:37
but what are your thoughts Jordan on the we'll get to you,
39:41
man. What are your thoughts Jordan on
39:42
on the contract situations that you've heard?
39:44
And then we're going to move on to world.
39:45
Well, we'll talk about the crash in Moto 2 because that was crazy
39:49
or crashes. What are your thoughts on the
39:51
contract rumors? Yeah, so silly season was pretty
39:55
crazy. And like Tyson was saying, it
39:58
seems like there have been a lot of, you know, verbal contracts,
40:02
back end deals that aren't official yet.
40:05
But I think it's all everything knows.
40:07
I I believe Pedro Acosta, I believe he's going straight to a
40:11
factory Ducati to be a side Mark Marquez.
40:14
I believe Martine will be on the factory Yamaha and I believe I
40:22
am happy that I got Jack Biller's autograph and I got a
40:27
nice little also top rack as well.
40:30
What's up? What's?
40:31
Up but I do believe it is Jack's last year, probably a Moto GP,
40:35
sadly. He's a he's an amazing talent.
40:38
But I think top rack coming in and how the Yamaha is
40:42
performing, they were able to say yeah, we'll bring him in
40:45
with his V4 knowledge. I just don't see him continuing
40:49
next year. I think they're going to go
40:51
after a young cat and beyond then, yeah, silly season is just
40:58
continuing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
40:59
Man, it's, it's been tough, man, it's, it's been tough.
41:02
I'm a huge Jack Miller fan. I hope you can get one more
41:06
year. But you're right.
41:08
These young guys in Moto 2 right now, it's it's it's making it
41:11
real hard to not give the give them a chance in Moto GP.
41:15
Lewis, man, you're shaking your head.
41:17
Sounds like you know something. What, what, what?
41:20
What don't we know? First of all, verbal contracts,
41:24
the motorcycle racing are as strong as wet toilet paper, so
41:29
anything that is verbally said is is is pretty much useless.
41:34
When people start to really buzz rumors that contracts are
41:38
signed, it's because contracts are signed.
41:42
I will say that next year you're going to see a minimum, minimum
41:46
of three new rookies in Moto GP, which means 33 asses have to
41:52
leave. And the three asses that are
41:55
most likely to leave, The first one is probably going to be Jack
42:00
Miller. The second one is more than
42:04
likely going to be Bender. And then that third ass still
42:08
yet to be filled. But there's definitely a lot of
42:11
people's looking for that position, which is probably
42:13
going to be Morbidelli, possibly Rinse so.
42:18
Yeah, Morbidelli. So because, I mean, you know,
42:22
he's he's and, and to his own doing.
42:24
I mean, this is one of the few people you can, you know, you
42:26
can blame it on the bike with some of these other guys or, or,
42:29
you know, maybe Ducati should have kept Miller another year on
42:32
the factory seat or Petrucci another year on the factory seat
42:35
kind of deal because these guys were producing when they were on
42:37
the factory seats. But more Bodelli's just doing it
42:41
to himself. Yep, yeah.
42:43
So next year you'll at minimum you'll see three, but there is a
42:46
possibility you'll see 4 rookies coming into Moto GP next year.
42:52
Jaldago and a couple other ones are already lining themselves up
42:56
and Yamaha has. Yamaha has to look for rookies
42:59
because there's no veteran that wants to ride that shit box
43:03
unless they're either getting paid a lot or you know, at the
43:06
end of their career where they're willing to throw it away
43:08
on a Yamaha at this point. Yeah, yeah, it it is.
43:13
Yeah, I I agree with the contract thing versus the verbal
43:17
because if you know Martine, we've seen been able to weasel,
43:22
not weasel get out of out of KTM, get out of could he walked
43:26
away from Aprilia if he wanted to.
43:27
And and and it's all in the in the in the contract because if
43:31
not he, he will be talking a different tune.
43:35
We saw the crashes. Go ahead.
43:37
And a pre, I honestly, if Martine had not gotten hurt, I
43:41
don't know if a preview would be where they are today because
43:44
there's one thing that's been said throughout the paddock is
43:47
Martine cannot help you set a bike up at all.
43:50
Yeah, yeah. Martine needs you to give him a
43:53
bike. He can ride, he can give you
43:55
feedback, but he can't tell you how to set up a bike.
43:57
Whereas Bizecki is very good at setting up a bike and him and
44:00
the other rookies that were racing last year on the bike
44:04
developed the bike when the previous started the season last
44:06
year they were the 3rd or 4th best bike on the grid and within
44:11
3-4 months they were starting to get back up towards the front
44:14
and by the middle of the year they looked like they were on.
44:16
You know, it was a whole new bike that was much better than
44:18
what was left from the previous riders that were on the bike.
44:23
So it might, it might have actually helped the premia that
44:26
Martine wasn't on the bike. I I agree, I mean, it helped.
44:29
It definitely helped Bez, right. It definitely helped Bez a lot.
44:33
I mean, you know, you know, it's like it's like I, you know, I'm
44:37
a praise to his fan, but it's like Brady and Drew Bledsoe,
44:39
right? You know, Bez was ready, you
44:41
know what I'm saying? And and and Martine got hurt and
44:44
he lost his number one spot, you know, and and you know, like his
44:48
mouth didn't help. I mean, I think if he would have
44:50
kept his mouth shut, he he probably could have had a Max
44:54
Biaggi kind of Prillia life after racing.
44:58
You know what I'm saying? Because Biaggi is everywhere and
45:01
he just, he's just smiling and and keeping his goatee and
45:04
getting him checks. Hey, guy's a creeper.
45:09
Such a weirdo. You know, wouldn't be the first
45:16
one in Moto GP, no? No, there's a catch me.
45:18
There's a ton of them. So, but let's talk about the
45:23
crashes in Moto 2. I mean, there's crashes in the
45:26
the whole weekend, but we're seeing a lot of exciting riding.
45:30
I mean, you know, you're looking at the Top 14 guys, I think was
45:33
separated by like 1/2 a second between a half a second from
45:36
first place to like 8. I think 14th or 15th or
45:39
something like that. It's it's pretty wild to see,
45:42
you know, we saw a couple of crashes early in the race and
45:44
then we still don't know what happened.
45:46
I forget which rider it is. That essentially was a bowling
45:49
ball and, and took out a bunch of riders.
45:52
I mean I I. Want to say it was?
45:53
Was it Heldago? I I don't know if it was him or
45:57
or the other, the Moto GP, not Moto GP, American Racing.
46:02
I know they were involved, not Joe Roberts that, but the other
46:06
the somebody. Said Joe Roberts had also.
46:10
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was taking out first and
46:12
then. He.
46:14
Was it was was part of that, But I mean, it's I we don't, I mean,
46:19
I have Moto GP hasn't said, but I hope it was brake failure or
46:24
something or mechanical and not just ride the error because it
46:28
didn't look like he hit the brakes at all.
46:30
What are your what are your thoughts?
46:31
We'll we'll go with Tyson and Jordan.
46:34
I don't remember if I managed to see that.
46:36
Was it going into like turn one or something like that and he
46:39
was just like breaking or didn't, as you said, didn't
46:41
break and just like slammed into somebody?
46:43
I don't know if it was turn one or I got to look which turn it
46:46
was. I don't know off the top of my
46:48
head. It was the back straight going
46:50
on the back straight turn. Got you.
46:52
I feel like I saw a clip on Reddit, but I didn't watch the
46:55
Moto 2 race. But yeah, those can definitely
46:57
be scary. But yeah, to to your point, I
47:01
hope it was mechanical and not just someone's stupid mistake
47:04
because that's that's kind of a boneheaded move to make.
47:08
Yeah, yeah. No, no doubt.
47:11
And you know, and and a lot of a lot of riders lost some points
47:14
in that process as well. You were there, Jordan.
47:18
What are your thoughts on the situation?
47:20
Being there on the ground, seeing it on the, the big, big
47:23
screen. And then also I went right to
47:25
the phone and then I I was able to back it up and then watch and
47:29
see when you break it down and you watch it does initially you
47:36
think, Oh no, it has to be mechanical because the rate of
47:40
speed that he closed was outstanding.
47:42
Yeah, and just negligent. But when you look and break down
47:47
the video, he gets on the brakes absolutely late and you see his
47:53
rear tire does come up off the ground.
47:56
So he was on those brakes. I think he just got an absolute
48:00
multi rider slipstream, absolutely blew his brain and
48:05
misses breaking marker by an absolute mile and absolutely
48:10
took some riders out and there has there.
48:12
I think there has to be massive repercussions Maybe if they look
48:16
at his license or something or other because from my
48:19
perspective and looking at it maybe if they pull the data it.
48:23
I could be wrong, but I think he was just a purely out of control
48:27
rider that overcooked his breaking mark, got caught in a
48:29
slipstream and now multiple riders are pretty pretty hurt
48:35
pretty well because of that. But you know, we, we did see
48:38
that with Bazecki and and Bialis at Phillip Island, right?
48:45
You know, on the on the straight when that slipstream sucked up
48:48
Bazecki in and they both went into the gravel.
48:52
So, you know, hopefully if they can scientifically prove that it
48:57
was, you know, out of his control based on the situation,
49:01
at least there's something there.
49:03
Lewis, man, you're, you're the numbers guy.
49:05
Does it, does it really matter or, you know, something like
49:07
that? You know, these riders should
49:09
know better at this point because we've been talking about
49:11
it for a couple of years. It's hard to say they'll know
49:14
better because this is one of those tracks, this is one of the
49:17
bigger tracks on the circuit that has these big straightaway
49:19
this Austria. And any of these tracks that
49:22
have these long straightaways will get a guy that's in fifth
49:26
position and give them that fifth position draft.
49:29
And he'll go into the break marker, He'll watch everybody
49:32
else breaking. He'll look for his break mark.
49:34
He'll hit the break and realize I'm going 18, then I should be
49:41
and not even realize it. And this is, you know,
49:43
unfortunately this is a little bit of a racing incident.
49:46
I don't think he did it on purpose.
49:48
I think again, he got sucked into the draft, hit his break
49:53
marker where he normally hits his break market realizes he's
49:56
carrying a lot more speed. So maybe even went a little
49:58
harder on the binders trying to scrub some speed off as much as
50:01
possible. And it's it was so early in the
50:04
race. I mean, it was first lap that
50:07
you know, we have a lot of people it.
50:09
Was either first or third, but it was pretty early on.
50:12
Yeah, but you have all these people going into the same
50:15
corner trying to fight for the same real estate.
50:17
He's got an extra 10 to 15 miles an hour with him.
50:21
You know what we're hearing are the other choices, either going
50:24
to the corner, low side, take out a bunch of guys or
50:27
completely T boned one or two guys.
50:30
You know, at that speed you don't really have a lot of time
50:33
to think about what are my options.
50:35
No, Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I mean, and it's not bike.
50:39
It's not like Veniala's when you could jump off the bike when he
50:42
lost brakes. Yeah, this is, I mean, this is a
50:46
situation that is, you know, I'm sure he'll probably get a great
50:50
penalty. He'll probably get a little bit
50:51
of a talking to. If they want to put a mark on
50:54
his license, they could probably put a mark on his license.
50:56
Again, I don't think it was intentional.
50:58
I don't think it was deliberate. It was just one of those
51:01
situations where a young kid goes into a corner not realizing
51:06
the extra speed he's carrying because of the draft.
51:08
And that's where, you know, it's a, it's a learning opportunity
51:12
for everybody, But it sucks. But I will say there were a lot
51:14
of crashes this weekend. And some of the crashes were the
51:17
writer's fault. And some of the crashes were
51:19
actually the track's fault. You know, everybody that was on
51:21
the grid was saying that the track is back to being as bumpy
51:25
as it ever has been. There's bumps in areas that they
51:28
never had to deal with before, so now they have to adjust their
51:31
lines. And in some places, you're in
51:33
the braking zone. You're braking, you're thinking
51:36
you're going to stop. All of a sudden your front tire
51:38
hits a bump, it kicks your rear tire out, and now you're out of
51:41
control. Even though you were in perfect
51:42
control until you got to the braking zone on the binders and
51:46
hit that bump, and now it looks like you're an asshole.
51:49
But you're not an asshole. The track's an asshole.
51:51
It makes you look like an asshole because you just took
51:53
somebody out. Right.
51:55
And and that's argument Marquez is using for his crash.
51:57
I hit a bump and and I went down so and and you know, you know,
52:03
I'm you know, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll take him for his word
52:06
that you know, he had a bump and went down because as.
52:08
We had one of our guys, we had one of our guys go out on Monday
52:12
with the Aprilia Day and actually ride the track for the
52:15
first time. And he's a, he's a very good
52:17
rider. And when he came back in after,
52:19
you know, the few laps he had there, it's like he's like, oh,
52:21
it's a great track. It's beautiful, It's big.
52:23
He's like, now I understand what all these riders are talking
52:26
about with all these bumps. He's like, this is a really
52:28
bumpy track. OK, OK.
52:31
I like the bumpy tracks man. I mean, you're, you're from the
52:36
Northeast. We don't have any choice.
52:38
All our tracks are bumpy. They're down here too.
52:43
They're down here, too. Potholes up here.
52:48
You know, you just, it makes you stronger, gives you character.
52:52
Let's talk about World Super Bike.
52:54
You know, I guess let's talk about this because I mean, is it
52:58
too much to have Moto GP and World Super Bike on the same
53:01
day? I have to say, like being in the
53:04
country where where motor GPS happen and it kind of messes up
53:08
my day because when it's in other countries, I can catch it
53:11
at 3:00 in the morning, 6:00 in the morning, you know, by 8:00
53:15
AM I can still have my day because I watched all the races.
53:18
So I'm like 3 o'clock 3:00 PM. That's kind of late.
53:22
What are your thoughts on having, you know, the, the Moto
53:24
GP and World Super bike on on the same weekend?
53:28
I mean, there's one company that owns both.
53:29
I mean, they, there's, there's 52 weekends, you know.
53:32
What are your thoughts, Tyson? Does Liberty own both of them
53:35
now? Well, one owns both of them, so
53:38
yeah, yeah. But is Liberty's only taking
53:41
Moto GP though, aren't they? No, they, I think they took the
53:44
whole, the whole thing 80%. They did OK, Yeah, yeah, I could
53:49
see that. But it seems like they've
53:50
they've pretty well established their Moto 3, Moto 2, Moto GP
53:54
sort of schedule for a weekend. So I feel like if they were
53:57
going to do it, they're probably going to try to separate out
54:00
World Super Bike into its own weekend and try not to conflict
54:03
with them. But I mean, for me personally, I
54:07
mean like that's a lot of racing in a weekend.
54:08
Like, I still have other stuff I have to get done, you know?
54:11
So like, I can't spend, you know, every other weekend just
54:14
watching racing all weekend long, you know?
54:17
I have three screens man, catching everything well.
54:23
I'm bootlegging it from Austria, so.
54:27
I hear that. I hear that.
54:29
What are your thoughts, Jordan, man?
54:31
I mean, you're you're in person. So I don't know how much of
54:33
world super bike you're you were watching maybe at the hotel when
54:36
you got back. Yeah, so.
54:38
Usually I have the Moto GP app and then I have the World Super
54:42
Bike app, but I will admit I've seen zero the World Super Bike
54:45
coverage when I was out because when I wasn't at the track I was
54:49
my first time in Austin, TX so I was probably drunk for about 6-8
54:55
days so. Man, downtown Austin is nice.
55:00
Yes, Sir, it was not too bad, Not too bad.
55:02
Hi, that's what's up, Lewis man. And the same vote you were
55:05
there. So I don't know how much world
55:07
super bike you were watching. Also from a numbers perspective,
55:11
does it make sense or it doesn't matter because it's two
55:13
different countries And you know, it's not like it's the
55:16
World Cup where half of Portugal is going to come to the states
55:19
to watch kind of thing. And also impressive that the
55:25
crowd in port in Porto Mayo. So it the largest crowd since
55:29
2015. I mean, it's you have Miguel
55:33
Oliveira in as part of the riders there.
55:36
So he's definitely going to bring the hometown crowd out.
55:39
And you know, everybody wants to cheer for somebody.
55:45
Believe it or not, he has a pretty big following in
55:47
Portugal. You know, I mean, even when he
55:50
was in Moto GP when they went to Portugal, like he had a big
55:54
section of fans that were out there rooting on, you know, you
55:57
always want to root for your hometown boy.
55:59
I mean we we would root for one if we had one.
56:06
Who just root? Just say USAUS.
56:10
A yeah, we do the fly over where we do the banner, but we're not
56:12
going to hear the the Star Spangled Banner on the podium
56:16
ceremony, right, Right. So, but I think as a company
56:23
it's it's, it's very odd to put your product on against your own
56:27
products because you're putting that motorcycle racing against
56:31
motorcycle racing in the same weekend.
56:33
And it's not like World Super Bike has 20 rounds like Moto GP
56:37
does. So it would be very easy for
56:40
them to find rounds and find tracks in between rounds.
56:44
So now you can constantly keep. So if you think about it, you
56:46
got 20 weekends, you do have the summer break, that's about a
56:49
month. You have the summer break for
56:50
both championships. If you schedule it right, you
56:54
could almost have a race every other weekend from March until
57:01
September, October if you schedule it correctly.
57:04
And I don't understand why they do this, why Dorna overlaps some
57:08
weekends where Moto GP and World Super Bike are both racing
57:12
because all it's going to do is it's going to take crowds away
57:14
from World Super Bike. Moto GP has a much bigger
57:17
following and you're trying to kind of build World Super Bike
57:21
back up because it's lost a lot of it's following around the
57:24
world because they don't travel to as many places as they used
57:26
to. They have less rounds.
57:28
So why are you going to hurt your own products?
57:30
You know you're going to take the, you know you're going to
57:32
devalue your own products. So I, I think it's, I think it's
57:36
something that Liberty Media and Dorna need to address is to make
57:38
sure that they don't have races on the same weekend conflicting
57:42
with each other. Because it doesn't help either
57:45
one. It doesn't help Moto GP and it
57:46
doesn't help World Super Bike. It definitely doesn't help World
57:49
Super bike and I don't really need to watch World Super Bike
57:51
this year anyway. It's Vuliga and whoever's coming
57:54
in second and third stop. It stop it, it's not going to be
57:56
that. It's not going to be that
58:00
because he's going to have to give up the podium a couple of
58:02
times because if not, they'll find it penalizing him.
58:05
So if he's a numbers guy like me, I'd win the first four races
58:09
and then the fifth race I'd probably come in 3rd.
58:11
So that way it doesn't look like I'm dominating and then I kick
58:14
ass the next three races. Then I'd probably come in 3rd
58:16
and then, you know, rinse and repeat so I don't get penalized
58:20
or get my RPMS dropped or add weight to my bike or something
58:23
like that. Not that I would cheat because I
58:27
know the rule book, but you know.
58:29
That's not that's not happening. So I mean we Formula One in that
58:33
in that as well because they they they are having all three.
58:36
What are you guys thoughts on that?
58:38
Then also what Lewis is saying with it with Bulaga show?
58:43
I don't believe so. This is the second race for Ika
58:47
and he's he's he's like I'm I'm tense, I'm tense. 2/10 behind
58:51
this dude. So Ika's sitting here saying,
58:53
bro, you got four more races, four more rounds and then and
58:57
then we going we going to be neck and neck.
58:58
I see it. You guys think that it doesn't
59:01
matter with with World Super Bike and and I know what you're
59:05
going to say with Oliveira, I am surprised, but it's good to have
59:09
BMW on the podium and it's not top rock.
59:13
So that's a good luck. Hopefully Oliveira will use that
59:16
and he is hungry. Do you guys think that, you
59:18
know, it's a Bulgar show and we shouldn't be watching World
59:22
Super Bite? Just just, you know, just bet on
59:24
Bulgar every time or Ducati because but I think I think
59:29
Ika's going to do something. What are your thoughts, Tyson?
59:33
I definitely think it is a Bullocka show, but I wouldn't
59:36
say that's the reason why we should stop watching.
59:38
To be fair, it's the reason why I didn't watch this weekend.
59:41
I watched Moto GP and I knew Bullocka was already going to
59:44
win. So I was like, all right, you
59:45
know, made choices, but I definitely think it's it's going
59:49
to be his championship to wrap up.
59:51
I mean, they they definitely seem to have the most dominant
59:54
production motorcycle right now. I mean, the S 1000 is really
59:58
good, but it clearly looks like unless your name is top rack and
1:00:02
you have a Turkish passport, you can't put it on, you know, front
1:00:07
spot on the grid. Well, not on the grid, but, you
1:00:09
know, in a race. And all the Ducatis that look
1:00:12
good. It's not just the factory team.
1:00:15
Sam Lowe's is looking good. What's his name?
1:00:21
Montella is looking good. Baltazar is looking good.
1:00:26
And I forget the other guy on On the Barn.
1:00:28
Oh, I forget the other. Oh, Batista.
1:00:32
How can I forget Batista? Yeah, I'm surprised he's still
1:00:35
there. I I figured they would have
1:00:36
dumped him by now. They've been talking about it
1:00:38
for she's just four or five years.
1:00:39
But yeah, I mean they just the fee 4R has been what the best
1:00:43
production bike in the world for the last four or five years.
1:00:45
Right. And at 26 very thing is a notch
1:00:50
better. The double sided swing arm is a
1:00:52
difference and I know there's a lot of the whatever cost these
1:00:57
or whatever they call that only wants a single sided swing arm.
1:01:01
I have two to God. He's one is single sided and
1:01:03
double sided. So I I like them both and I can
1:01:06
I can only look at one side of the bike at once.
1:01:08
So I really can't. If I have a favorite side, I'm
1:01:12
just going to keep looking at that side like Seinfeld.
1:01:15
What are your thoughts? Jordan World Super Bike.
1:01:19
Oh well the VI. I agree about the the V4.
1:01:23
The new iteration is definitely faster but I will say it's
1:01:27
definitely not as good looking as its as its predecessor.
1:01:32
I think that single sided swing arm, the V4R the year before
1:01:36
that thing just looks fast, even though the double sided swing
1:01:40
arm in that new gearbox that they have is an absolute weapon
1:01:45
on the track. I'll give it to him, but go on
1:01:47
the world super bike. I believe it is a Boliga show.
1:01:51
I believe he's going to take it. I believe there are other
1:01:54
Ducatis that'll, you know, come into their own towards the
1:01:57
middle end and start giving him a really good fight.
1:02:01
But I believe without top rack there dad, I think Boliga is
1:02:04
going to wrap it up pretty well. All right, all right, I'm, I'm
1:02:08
rooting for Bulliga. Don't get me wrong.
1:02:09
I I'm I'm a fan of what happened.
1:02:11
I'm I'm not a fan of what happened to him in Moto two.
1:02:13
I'm not a fan of of I mean, I know, I think he had some issues
1:02:16
with VR46 because he was in the Academy and left and all that
1:02:19
stuff. And you know the IT didn't it
1:02:22
didn't happen like with Remy, how Remy got out of Moto GP and
1:02:25
stuff like that. But for him to go into super
1:02:28
sport, I mean, granted, he got a factory seat, so it's not a bad
1:02:31
place to land, but to do what he did in super sport and get this
1:02:34
bump and having this, you know, this pivot in motorcycle racing.
1:02:39
And I'm I'm a fan, but you know, I think as races and and I think
1:02:44
we're all races, you know, all of us at some level, even though
1:02:48
we see the competition is a little bit part says I'm coming
1:02:50
for you. There's there's a little bit
1:02:52
every day I'm coming for you. And and these guys are not going
1:02:55
to just sit there and let him take it.
1:02:56
So, you know, that's what motorcycle racing is.
1:02:59
And and and and that's the what's good fun to look at.
1:03:02
And we'll see if Bulliger is going to be like, I'm like Mike,
1:03:05
we'll see. But let's let me ask this guys
1:03:09
in the Super. Well, it's two things I want to
1:03:11
ask before we get out of here, which order because they both
1:03:17
knew ZX Moto is new in super in super sport class and won two
1:03:24
races. Super bike sport bike has been
1:03:28
replaced with a 300 super sport class and it's new for world
1:03:31
super bike. So you know either 1 you guys
1:03:34
can talk about both or either one.
1:03:36
It's a Chinese manufacturer ZX Moto.
1:03:38
I didn't expect them to to. I was like what what but who's
1:03:41
ZX Moto? How did it like?
1:03:44
How did this happen Where's the V twos?
1:03:45
Where's the R nines ZX Moto? Should I stop buying Chinese
1:03:52
stock, Louis? I mean, what are your thoughts
1:03:54
with Google Tyson? You know, Yeah, I don't know if
1:03:57
you got a chance to check out the the, the Super sport or, or
1:04:00
know about the Super bike class because it's like essentially
1:04:02
it's like the twin class in motor America.
1:04:05
Yeah. I didn't hear about this at all
1:04:07
and I didn't hear that those Chinese manufacturer getting
1:04:10
into it either. But see how other industries are
1:04:13
going, that may be terrifying, but we'll see.
1:04:16
Only time will tell. But it's always good to have
1:04:19
more manufacturers. I think in the sport it'll it'll
1:04:21
hopefully give some competition and some inspiration to these
1:04:24
other very famous legendary manufacturers to invest some
1:04:28
more time, money and effort into their own programs.
1:04:32
That's what I really hope, this kind of spurs.
1:04:34
Nice, nice I I agree with that and and I think it's nice to see
1:04:38
also, you know, faster bike than a 300 super sport bikes.
1:04:42
What are your thoughts? Jordan ZX Moto and then they
1:04:46
won, they won 2 super sport race with the the breeze, the boys,
1:04:50
the you know and you know he's no slouch and you know other
1:04:55
riders around him weren't either.
1:04:56
But what are your thoughts man? Yeah, I haven't seen that actual
1:04:59
series too much. I did see a couple of drawings
1:05:03
and specs of the bikes. The bikes actually look pretty
1:05:06
decent for what I could see. And actually the price point is
1:05:11
what I saw online. It was floating around.
1:05:13
I I think they're for what you're getting, it looks like a
1:05:16
pretty damn good deal, but you never really kind of know what
1:05:19
you're getting with with AT move version kind of a bike.
1:05:23
But then again, it could be a quality product.
1:05:25
I just couldn't tell you. I wouldn't.
1:05:28
I wouldn't know if I'd necessarily buy one and trust it
1:05:31
at the at speed, you know, but that might be somebody else.
1:05:36
You know, it's, it's interesting.
1:05:37
I think you got it was a Kobe you got What's the other one?
1:05:41
There's another brand I can't think of off the top of my head.
1:05:44
It'll come to me. But there are a bunch of Chinese
1:05:47
bikes now that, you know, are looking a lot better than like
1:05:50
the thumpers and some of these dirt bikes that we saw some
1:05:54
years back. Lewis Mann.
1:05:56
I mean, is this good business good for Moto G Moto 2?
1:06:00
I mean, good for we're super sport class and then also, you
1:06:03
know, getting rid of the 300CC bikes for, you know, Rs six 60s
1:06:07
and R sevens, you know, is, is that a good look for for world
1:06:13
super bike? And sure, you know Motor America
1:06:16
get some royalties for introducing that class.
1:06:20
I think it's a good look because I think the 300 and the 400
1:06:23
class, I mean that's a, we have some really low CC class.
1:06:27
I think the R660, like the Twins Cup type of racing that we do
1:06:31
here. It really does help introduce
1:06:33
younger riders to get them ready for that next step to super
1:06:36
sport and then to get them to that next step to super bike.
1:06:40
You know, you can only ride a 300 or 400 for so long before
1:06:44
you need to get to a bike that has a little bit more power.
1:06:46
So I think doing it the way that Mortar America does with the
1:06:49
twins Class one, it shows off the talent of these young kids
1:06:52
as long as they keep the age range of the people that can
1:06:55
compete there on the lower end of the spectrum.
1:06:58
Like, I don't want to see a 28 year old super, you know, Twins
1:07:02
Cup rider winning the championship.
1:07:04
Like that's, you know, that's like going into a grammar school
1:07:07
and picking a fight with the biggest kid in in fifth grade.
1:07:10
And after you beat him, be like, yeah, bro, the champ.
1:07:15
Yeah, I'm the champ. You know, as far as the Chinese
1:07:20
manufacturers there, you know, there's always been this
1:07:22
misconception that Chinese companies make cheap products.
1:07:26
Don't get me wrong, they do make some cheap products.
1:07:29
I mean, we always joke about, you know, if you want to get
1:07:32
some cheap metal, you just buy Chineseium.
1:07:35
It's the cheapest metal you can buy.
1:07:37
But there's a lot of really good manufacturing in China.
1:07:41
If you look at all the products that we as Americans buy or even
1:07:45
the globe buys that come from China, they make a lot of
1:07:48
quality products. I mean, the phone in your pocket
1:07:51
right now, your iPhone, it comes from China.
1:07:54
You know, the parts are manufactured in China.
1:07:57
Everything comes from China. If they want to build something,
1:08:00
they have the technical know how, they have the expertise,
1:08:03
they have the workforce, they have the factories where they
1:08:06
can fabricate these things and they can build.
1:08:09
And I'm looking at the Chinese manufacturers now the same way
1:08:14
that I, damn, I'm old, but the same way I looked at the
1:08:18
Japanese manufacturers in the early 80s.
1:08:22
It's like, you know, everybody didn't want to buy Japanese
1:08:24
products because they're the Japanese.
1:08:26
You know, what's this product? Honda?
1:08:28
What's this? A Toyota?
1:08:29
It looks like a piece of shit. Turns out they made the greatest
1:08:33
part ever. They made an engine that was
1:08:34
indestructible. People to this day, you know,
1:08:37
they want Toyota trucks, the Tundra and all these trucks,
1:08:40
their their desired truck, the Tacoma.
1:08:43
They have one version of Tacoma, everybody that thing because
1:08:45
it's indestructible and China is, is knocking on that
1:08:49
doorstep, not just with motorcycles, but with cars and
1:08:52
other things. And yes, they're, you know, some
1:08:55
of them do look like they went to a motorcycle shop and they
1:08:59
stole this part from a Ducati and this part from a Yamaha,
1:09:03
this part from a Honda, and they put together a Frankenbike.
1:09:07
But guess what? That's what all the
1:09:08
manufacturers do. At some point they steal from
1:09:10
each other and if they're going to bring bikes to the market
1:09:13
that are quality bikes at a price point that's 30% lower
1:09:17
than what the Japanese are doing right now.
1:09:19
I mean shit, look at Suzuki. I always like to knock on them
1:09:23
because I own them. So I I got the right to knock on
1:09:25
them. They're still selling the same
1:09:27
piece of shit GSXR 600 and 750 and 1000.
1:09:30
They've been making for like 25 years now and the price is not
1:09:33
going down. If this company comes out with
1:09:37
ACF Moto ZXT PR750 that's got better technology, ride by wire
1:09:44
throttle, better suspension, better brakes than a Suzuki at
1:09:48
like $4000 less than a Suzuki, guess what man, I'm going to
1:09:52
give that bike a shot. Right, right.
1:09:54
Well, yeah, we see the brand I couldn't think of was Ibex as
1:09:57
well as another one. They're, they're taking over the
1:10:00
adventure to do Sport World, which is pretty wild to see.
1:10:05
And you got options and options that are below.
1:10:07
I mean you know, prices are being jacked up and they were
1:10:09
blame it on EUR 5, EUR 5, EUR 5. It's like that, That 5 grand is
1:10:14
EUR 5, so. We, I had a discussion with this
1:10:20
yesterday with Adam Wahid. And, you know, Adam Wahid is,
1:10:24
he's a journalist, Yeah. And he kind of came up to me
1:10:27
because he was working with Yamaha, doing tours, doing demo
1:10:30
rides all weekend. And he, you know, he kind of
1:10:33
asked me, what do you think about when manufacturers do
1:10:35
these demo rides? And I said it's great if they're
1:10:38
listening to the public, if they're just coming out here
1:10:41
with the same pieces of shit that they've been selling for
1:10:43
years with bold new graphics. They're not doing anything for
1:10:47
the customer. They're not listening to the
1:10:49
customer. The customers want reliability,
1:10:52
they want quality. They don't need all these bells
1:10:54
and whistles and they need a bike they can buy from for under
1:10:58
a certain price. I don't want to buy a 20,000
1:11:00
dollars 600. That's that's insane man 600
1:11:05
should not be 20 grand. Right, right.
1:11:07
I agree. I agree.
1:11:08
And listen, let me start on a used bike.
1:11:10
I mean, I, I, I see 2008 bikes that are over 10 grand.
1:11:15
I'm like, what's going on here? What I miss?
1:11:17
Damn man. It's like there's a 2020 I got.
1:11:20
Same price I have. I have bikes that cost more now
1:11:24
than I bought used, that are used that cost more, that I
1:11:28
could sell for more now than I bought them for seven years ago,
1:11:31
eight years ago. Yeah, it's, you know, I think
1:11:34
there's a little bit of propping up that's happening with prices
1:11:38
where, you know, people are just saying got 75,000 on this bike,
1:11:41
6 grand. It's like no man, that's that's
1:11:43
like $1000 if that. Come on, let's split.
1:11:47
You've got your money out of that bike if your bike got
1:11:50
75,000 miles on a high 1000 miles on it.
1:11:53
Just. Pass it on and say hey kid have
1:11:56
fun with it. I got I got memories don't have
1:11:59
for 8 grand. Motor America starts in a couple
1:12:05
of week. Guys before we get out of here,
1:12:08
what are you looking to see? What are you looking at?
1:12:11
Do you guys pay attention to Motor America?
1:12:14
You know, we start with Tyson, man, you know.
1:12:16
What are your thoughts? I casually fall on middle
1:12:19
America. David.
1:12:21
Was it last year or is it this year that they've been putting
1:12:23
all their races on YouTube though?
1:12:25
Might have. Been, but this year they
1:12:27
actually have a broadcast deal. So they're actually going to be
1:12:30
on on a broadcast now they're going to be on.
1:12:36
What is it they just released? I think is it Paramount Plus
1:12:41
that they're going to be on? Oh, OK, that's what's up.
1:12:44
Interesting. Yeah, check, check on their
1:12:46
website because they just announced a deal like AI want to
1:12:49
say like 10 days ago that they they're going to be broadcast,
1:12:54
obviously delayed broadcast, but they're going to be broadcast I
1:12:57
think on Paramount Plus. Got you.
1:12:59
So they still do the American lot, American mode America live
1:13:03
and they that's that's what's up.
1:13:05
That makes sense. So OK, so Tyson, yeah.
1:13:09
So you're you're you're looking to see a little bit or?
1:13:12
Yeah, I was looking forward to catch up a bit of it.
1:13:14
I liked when I was on YouTube, but now I'm going to have to get
1:13:16
Sheisty and find out ways to get free Paramount.
1:13:21
She used to give them money. There's nothing on that service.
1:13:26
I. I I'm excited, I like racing in
1:13:27
the USI would love to see to get like Moto America get real big
1:13:31
again. Like, I remember hearing heyday
1:13:32
stories of AMA and it's just, it's sad to see how far it's
1:13:37
gone. I was like, I wish I showed up
1:13:40
to Loudon when there was, you know, a shit load of people here
1:13:42
and there's an AMA race. Yeah, you know, I mean, I know
1:13:45
they'll never go back. Like that's that's a foregone
1:13:47
conclusion, but. We're working on it, man.
1:13:50
We're working on it. There's no way Moto America goes
1:13:53
to Loudon. Well, I mean, look, they got
1:13:55
they, they got the class and we're getting some Moto America
1:13:59
riders to come and race up there now for that purse.
1:14:01
So you know it, you know, up up until a couple of years ago, you
1:14:06
might have said that, but now someone's showing up.
1:14:08
So it may not be the whole squad, but you never know.
1:14:12
You know, Once Upon a time, you know, I remember seeing the the
1:14:16
backers testing Blackhawk and I'm just kind of like, that
1:14:21
ain't going to work. Look at it.
1:14:23
Now you know what I'm saying. That MAGA series is pretty cool
1:14:27
though. They they those bikes?
1:14:28
Are pretty wild. Right, they just had their first
1:14:30
Moto GP round right and they got five more and you know, you got
1:14:35
some you got some European riders, but you got some
1:14:37
American riders, which is pretty cool.
1:14:39
What are your thoughts, Jordan man on on you know, Moto
1:14:41
America. I mean, I know you watch the
1:14:43
World Super bike and and and Moto GP so.
1:14:46
Yeah, so I'm a I'm a Josh Herring fan, but I hear he's not
1:14:51
even. He like won the championship and
1:14:53
he's not even on like a regular team this year.
1:14:57
He's going over to, I believe, a what the.
1:14:59
Electric. I think hooligans are electric
1:15:01
or something like that. Yeah, which is, I don't know,
1:15:04
the thing. I know he has a family now and
1:15:06
all that good stuff, but other than that, I follow SIBO,
1:15:11
Cameron, Bo BA. I think he's a bad ass.
1:15:13
I think he should have stayed in Moto 2.
1:15:15
I think he was our best shot. I think it was a best shot.
1:15:18
But you know him, newly married and then wanted to start a
1:15:21
family. Being in Europe, probably, you
1:15:24
know that. Yeah, it was the decision.
1:15:27
Other than that, yeah. Josh Herron is probably the guy
1:15:30
I follow. I met him at Chuck Waller
1:15:32
Raceway probably like 15 years ago or or so.
1:15:37
I was doing that Jason Pridmore Racing School, and this guy was
1:15:40
just sending this Yamahas absolutely sideways everywhere.
1:15:44
And from that day, I was like, yeah, this guy's a badass, I'm
1:15:47
going to follow him. I've gambled with Heron.
1:15:51
Straight up I. Was at the casino with Heron.
1:15:57
That's what you want to see too, man.
1:15:58
He's at a Pocono track day. Oh, got you, got you, got you.
1:16:03
That's what's up, Lewis. Man, Did we you frozen or did we
1:16:06
you you just listen to our banta.
1:16:09
No, I'm here, all right. I'm just listening to the Banta.
1:16:13
Yeah, I got you. Got you.
1:16:16
I do. Have AI do have a little inside
1:16:18
info all. Right.
1:16:19
If you can share it, go ahead man all.
1:16:22
Right. So you're going to break big
1:16:24
news here. So there will still be track
1:16:27
days at CODA next year. Uh huh.
1:16:33
Under a certain set of rules, so it is going private.
1:16:37
However, if you know a member that is in the member group to
1:16:42
be private, you can rent it through that member.
1:16:45
That's number one. So This is why a lot of these
1:16:49
track day companies are saying that this is the last year that
1:16:51
you can ride there is because either they don't know members
1:16:54
or they don't want to pay the membership fee.
1:16:57
But there will be track days at CODA next year where you can
1:17:02
ride motorcycles. Also.
1:17:06
Also additional information, Coda is planning on building
1:17:11
another track outside of Coda that will be their track day
1:17:16
track. Oh OK.
1:17:19
That you'll be able to ride bikes and cars there at that
1:17:21
separate track that will be less money to rent than the main
1:17:26
track I. Don't know bootleg track.
1:17:29
It's, it's actually, it's actually, it's actually a pretty
1:17:32
big track. You want to ride Koda, but
1:17:35
nobody wants to pay $1000 to ride Koda.
1:17:38
And Koda doesn't want people tearing up the track, so they're
1:17:42
going to build a separate track that's going to be a little bit
1:17:45
less money to buy. It's still going to be a really
1:17:47
big quality track. They have a layout already set
1:17:50
and the plans are in motion. I don't know exactly how long
1:17:53
it's going to take them to build it, but they are planning on
1:17:55
building a second track at the facility in Coda.
1:18:00
OK, that's what's up. There's not much out there so.
1:18:03
Yeah, there's not much out there.
1:18:06
So I I got this directly from somebody pretty high up at Coda
1:18:11
all. Right.
1:18:11
We'll, we'll, we'll take it. We'll take it.
1:18:13
They were just on the they were in the tower when you heard it.
1:18:17
No, no, no, he, he sat me down because so next year me and a
1:18:21
group of my friends, we're going to rent AVIP Suite and we're
1:18:25
going to do a special kind of package deal for people that
1:18:27
want to go see Moto GP. OK.
1:18:30
And so you, you just pay for your flight to get there.
1:18:32
And from the time you land at the airport to the time you get
1:18:35
back to the airport, we transport you to and from.
1:18:37
We get you the hotel, we get you the VIP suite, we get you
1:18:41
paddock passes. We take care of everything for
1:18:42
you from the time you land to the time you take off.
1:18:46
I like the sounds of that sound of that.
1:18:48
Yep, they they do. I carry my camera equipment and
1:18:51
everything. No, no, no.
1:18:53
You got to carry that man. I'm not carrying your camera
1:18:54
equipment. That's what's up, man.
1:18:58
That's good. That's good news because for me,
1:19:01
Pakoda is on my list is a bucket, bucket list track.
1:19:04
I want to bring to bring the bike or to and and and get on.
1:19:08
So at least I know there's that there's a way still and I don't
1:19:11
have to go sell my kidney to get there this year.
1:19:17
I mean, most of the track day companies that have been
1:19:19
advertising have pretty much sold out most of their days
1:19:22
anyway because, you know, the, the ongoing pitch is that
1:19:27
motorcycles are never going to ride CODA again.
1:19:30
And it's, it's, you know, I think they're over pitching that
1:19:33
because they want to make sure that bondage show all the days
1:19:36
they had this year because they have a lot of money.
1:19:38
They have a lot of money at stake to make.
1:19:40
And two, you know, it doesn't seem like they're willing to
1:19:43
invest the amount of money that is going to be needed to
1:19:45
continue to be able to do track days on the main track.
1:19:49
Right, right. But you know, it's, it's like
1:19:52
clubbing, right? I mean, there was a point in
1:19:53
time where you know, you could have $20 in your pocket and go
1:19:58
to a club and have a good night and kind of stumble home.
1:20:02
Now you're spending upwards of thousands of dollars.
1:20:05
And there was a point where the club scene was dying because
1:20:08
they couldn't afford what the venues were asking.
1:20:11
But at some point people are now, you know, paying, you know,
1:20:14
$800.00 for bottles and, you know, to the to the old heads
1:20:19
are like, what? I can't do that.
1:20:23
I'm getting drunk in the parking lot and I'm going in and just
1:20:26
buying a coke. Exactly.
1:20:29
So I think, I think you know like track days and stuff like
1:20:33
that, the price will work out where you're going to pay.
1:20:37
If you want to go to the track, you're going to pay the number
1:20:39
because if the organization is asking for it and everything, it
1:20:42
is what it is. I'm not saying it's right.
1:20:44
But. You know.
1:20:45
But you want to hear something crazy and it's a it's a very US
1:20:49
thing because you can rent Majello for 10,000 bucks.
1:20:54
Say what now? You can rent Majello for
1:20:58
$10,000. All right, all.
1:21:01
Right. People get that ad revenue
1:21:03
going. Let's go.
1:21:06
NJMP on a weekend in the summer is something like 15 or $16,000.
1:21:12
Oh wow. To rent, to rent, that fucking
1:21:16
track. Yeah.
1:21:19
I mean, is it, is it a matter of just they just own it enough
1:21:22
where it's just all profit or it's just the love of love of
1:21:26
the sport that they're just saying because I mean, all over
1:21:28
in Europe, you know, motor motorcycle racing or track days
1:21:33
is is like a pastime. It's, it's, it's the quantity.
1:21:39
There's more tracks available in Europe, so they know that they
1:21:43
can't gouge as much. Here in the US, we only have so
1:21:46
many tracks and most of them are owned now by conglomerates more
1:21:51
than private groups or, you know, private groups own these
1:21:55
more than private individuals. And they're looking to make
1:21:58
maximum profit. Every time they rent a track,
1:22:00
they're looking for maximum profit.
1:22:03
OK, that's, that's that I, I appreciate you dropping it on
1:22:07
the show. So you guys, you guys hear that
1:22:10
you can still go to Koda before we got to hear a couple of
1:22:16
things. Mostly let's talk about Tiger
1:22:19
Woods. He had an accident again.
1:22:22
He's not as he's not, as Lewis would say, he's not a, he's not
1:22:25
a Lowe's brother. I've seen people come out and,
1:22:29
and sit here and, and, and essentially say lock him up and
1:22:34
you know, it, You know, I, I have a different take on it
1:22:37
because I think it, it, it, it's not alcohol because he, he blew
1:22:41
a 000. So he wasn't drunk.
1:22:44
But this guy has had more surgeries and probably all four
1:22:47
of us on screen, you know, in his life.
1:22:51
So is it a situation where we should just not have like just
1:22:55
say, you know, he should know better or just kind of like at
1:23:00
after a certain point, like how many surgeries, you know, you
1:23:03
know, and, and so I got an accident in 2018 and I was on
1:23:07
oxy. I was in the hospital for 9
1:23:09
days. So I don't know what they gave
1:23:11
me when I was in and out, but from the time I was out until I
1:23:15
got home, it was at least seven days, five days.
1:23:18
And it's crazy to be on that drug.
1:23:22
Like it's it's absolutely crazy, much less to I can't imagine
1:23:26
having, you know, 20 or more surgeries and have to take these
1:23:29
heavy drugs and and, and find a way to get them out my system
1:23:32
properly. What do you guys have anything
1:23:34
to share on on on Tiger Woods? I mean, dude's a billionaire,
1:23:38
isn't he? At this point, or close to it,
1:23:40
his first wife might have taken. No, she, she took half, she took
1:23:44
half. So he's a, he's 1/2.
1:23:46
A billionaire. No, no, no.
1:23:47
OK. It was a prenup.
1:23:48
It was a prenup. She got like 120 to stay into
1:23:51
the country with the with the kids.
1:23:52
And he didn't. He didn't get all right.
1:23:53
Well, he's slightly lower than a billionaire, and I feel like
1:23:58
paying for an Uber is not too much to ask for.
1:24:01
You know, like you're not stressing for money.
1:24:04
It's not like you can't afford it or you don't have somebody
1:24:07
who could arrange it for you. It just seems like a stupid risk
1:24:10
to take. Yeah, I like, I like that Uber.
1:24:13
He he could have definitely used an Uber.
1:24:16
Jordan, what are your thoughts man?
1:24:18
I agree. If I have that kind of money,
1:24:20
I'm never driving a car really a day unless it's, you know, some
1:24:25
crazy out of the outlandish vehicle and I'm doing whatever
1:24:29
on. But at at that.
1:24:31
You should just have a driver everywhere you go.
1:24:33
You know, he likes to party a little bit.
1:24:35
So all you need is ADD my man. You know that's all you need.
1:24:40
Yeah, I, you know, I saw Cam from the camera maze.
1:24:45
I forget what the show is called.
1:24:47
And he's saying whatever Tiger was doing is that crazy that he
1:24:49
doesn't want nobody to see. What do you thought?
1:24:53
No, but. That's definitely what it is to
1:24:55
think about it. He could at anytime, he could
1:24:57
have his own personal driver, he can have a limousine service
1:25:01
take him anywhere he wants to go.
1:25:03
You know, whatever he was doing is something that he didn't want
1:25:05
anybody to know he was doing. Maybe he was, you know, putting
1:25:08
on some big boobs under his shirt and talking to some women
1:25:12
online and paying him a bunch of money.
1:25:14
You know, we found out that there's a lot of lot of
1:25:16
freakingness going on out here all of a sudden.
1:25:21
But, but I don't like to like, you know, we're, we're in, we're
1:25:25
in the, we're in the business of talking about people.
1:25:28
But I don't know what this dude is going through, man.
1:25:31
Like with pain, with, you know, with back surgery, I've, I've
1:25:34
been on painkillers. I mean, I was in an, I had an
1:25:37
injury so bad that I actually had an epidural in my back and I
1:25:42
had to carry around this little sack like a little Fanny pack
1:25:46
for two weeks. That was slow, would slowly like
1:25:50
pump a painkiller into me for two weeks.
1:25:54
It was that bad. And so you don't really know
1:25:57
what this guy's going to. You don't know his life or the
1:26:00
situation. Whatever it is, man, I hope that
1:26:02
he gets some help because, you know, I look at a Tiger Woods
1:26:07
and what he's done with his life and what he did with the sport
1:26:10
and what he did for minorities and everything else.
1:26:13
And I and I hold him in pretty high regard as far as what he
1:26:16
did in the past, what he's doing now.
1:26:18
It's kind of hurting his legacy. It's hurting himself.
1:26:20
But I'm sure there's something else going on there that we
1:26:22
don't know about. And that's why when people
1:26:25
start, oh, lock him up and this and that, like, you know, you
1:26:27
don't really don't know what this guy's going through.
1:26:29
You don't know the situation he has.
1:26:31
You know, he's human just like the rest of us.
1:26:33
He makes mistakes. And, you know, he might have
1:26:35
some serious situation with his family, with his kids or
1:26:39
whatever else, as long as he's not, you know, hurting anybody.
1:26:45
You know, he, he just needs some people in his life to get him
1:26:48
some help, man. Because thank God, thank
1:26:49
goodness he had this accident. He didn't hurt anybody.
1:26:52
But God forbid he had hurt somebody or killed somebody,
1:26:55
then the situation would be completely different.
1:26:57
But this is maybe there's a, he's had a couple, maybe there's
1:27:00
another one of these wake up calls.
1:27:02
It's like, no, man, you need somebody in your life to kind of
1:27:04
help you out, right? I mean, you would have think
1:27:06
after jacking up his leg, that would have been a, you know,
1:27:10
because I heard him, it's hurting him from playing games.
1:27:13
So whatever it is, it's definitely serious because you
1:27:16
know, you think putting on your pants and your underwear every
1:27:19
day, you would remind you like man.
1:27:24
I mean you would have thought his his wife beating his ass
1:27:28
would have stopped him from cheating too, but he kept doing
1:27:30
that. So it is pretty wild.
1:27:38
Let's see. And on that note and on that
1:27:42
note, till next week, guys, I really appreciate it.
1:27:45
My name is Rex 45 is the be forever Cool podcast.
1:27:48
We got Tyson from up north on the show.
1:27:51
Really appreciate it, Jordan, really appreciate it.
1:27:53
Stepping in as well, going to Koda and all that and and
1:27:56
sharing your story, man, Louis, the real Louis Ortega, the
1:28:00
numbers guy. I'm glad that you know you're
1:28:02
slowing down enough that we can get you at least.
1:28:06
Famous man. Be on the show until you get
1:28:09
some light on you. You are famous, man.
1:28:12
No, no doubt. Listen, man, the the the believe
1:28:15
it or not, this show is, is is people are watching.
1:28:18
You know, they're running up on y'all.
1:28:19
So, you know, be careful what you say, because you know, Reese
1:28:27
was definitely amped. Marquez grandstand after me, but
1:28:34
I tell you. Oh, another thing I do want to
1:28:36
touch on coming to Austin. Yeah, there's a lot.
1:28:40
It seems like there's a lot of bandwagon fans for as far as the
1:28:44
eye you can see, all you see is red.
1:28:47
Ducati grandstands everywhere and you can't find a Yamaha you
1:28:54
can't find. I couldn't find any merch for a
1:28:56
top rack. Razzagliaaglu one of the main
1:28:59
attractions. Yamaha missed big time, didn't
1:29:03
have enough stands and I'm. Just saying.
1:29:05
All all I saw was red going down there well.
1:29:08
We didn't change that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:29:10
I mean, you know, you know how, you know, to quote the great
1:29:13
Michael Jordan, you know how you do that?
1:29:16
Win. Win.
1:29:17
Yeah, you. Win, but Zeki's coming, baby.
1:29:19
Still. No, no thanks.
1:29:27
Guys have a good one. Thanks for having me.