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Sean O'Connell Show w/Bill Riley - Full POD 7-30-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 6: Agree, So Stockton sends the Utah Josy Indy Finals.
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Speaker 3: Robbie Russell now with a chance to send RSL home
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Speaker 1: Saunder's on his line. Russell approaches.
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Speaker 4: Two thousandscott Champions Zampions like site. This is a special
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Speaker 4: edition of the Sean O'Connell Show, hosted by Bill Riley
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Speaker 4: on Utah's number one sports talk and your Home of
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Speaker 4: the Utes ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one a FM.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 4: Here's three times Utah Sports Broadcaster of the Year and
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Speaker 4: Voice of the Utes.
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Speaker 1: Bill Riley.
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Speaker 3: Hey there, good morning, and welcome into a special edition
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Speaker 3: of the Shan O'Connell show today. OC is out, br
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Speaker 3: is in and it's so good to be with you
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Speaker 3: as we are just about to August and we are
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Speaker 3: just about the college football season. Welcome in Bill Riley
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Speaker 3: in the airchair today here at the Broadway Media Studios
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Speaker 3: at the heart of downtown Salt Lake City, filling in
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Speaker 3: today for Shan o'connag got a good show lined up
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Speaker 3: for you today. My good friend Gordy Chase is gonna
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Speaker 3: be in studio with us. We'll talk to Gordian. It's
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Speaker 3: kind of Gordy's last I think it's probably one of
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Speaker 3: his last goes. He usually takes August and part of
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Speaker 3: September off to just kind of recharge the batteries and
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Speaker 3: do Gordy things and probably do you hang out with
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Speaker 3: his lovely wife Nancy and ghost visit kids and friends
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Speaker 3: and family and get away a little bit.
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Speaker 1: But Gordy's gonna come in studio.
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Speaker 3: We'll do a recap of Summer League and all that stuff,
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Speaker 3: with the Utah Jazz coming up at the eleven thirty
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Speaker 3: to twelve thirty segment.
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Speaker 1: But have no fear.
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Speaker 3: Did you think I was gonna sit in today and
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Speaker 3: we were not gonna talk football? Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 3: Five weeks from today? Five weeks from today, the season
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Speaker 3: begins for the University of Utah. The first year the
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Speaker 3: Morgan Scaley era is just about to get going. Practice
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Speaker 3: begins on Monday. Camp begins on Monday. It's not Camp
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Speaker 3: Kyle anymore. It's Camp Morgan. Doesn't have quite the same
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Speaker 3: alliteration or ring to it. But it is the first
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Speaker 3: fall camp that Morgan Scalley will be in charge of.
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Speaker 3: And so we will talk some Utah football with you today,
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Speaker 3: big picture college football, Utah football will do all of
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Speaker 3: that stuff with you today. We're gonna have Ryan Leaf,
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Speaker 3: my good friend Ryan Leaf. I'm proud to say I
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Speaker 3: bought early stock on the Ryan Leaf College Football Pro
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Speaker 3: Football Insider bandwagon train, probably six or seven years ago.
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Speaker 3: And Ryan's career as a media member has taken off,
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Speaker 3: and I could not be happier for him. He is
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Speaker 3: a great story of perseverance and building your life back.
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Speaker 3: He was an NFL quarterback. He was a number one pick,
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Speaker 3: and everybody bought him down. He did it just didn't
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Speaker 3: work for him. He went to jail, he spent time
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Speaker 3: behind bars, and then he built his life back and
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Speaker 3: he is a tremendous analyst and I love talking football
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Speaker 3: with Ryan. So he's going to join us a little
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Speaker 3: bit later onto the program today as will. We're gonna
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Speaker 3: do a little preview of a Utah opponent today. Quinn
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Speaker 3: Grovey's gonna join us today. He is the Color Analys's
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Speaker 3: former Arkansas Razorback football player and he's been on their
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Speaker 3: broadcast team for a long time. The Arkansas Razorbacks come
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Speaker 3: to rice ecl Stadium the second game of the year.
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Speaker 1: It's a later game.
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Speaker 3: We was a little bit of talk about that by
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Speaker 3: their athletic director Hunter Yearsec a few months ago, but
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Speaker 3: it's it's an eight to fifteen kickoff at rice ecel Stadium.
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Speaker 1: I believe.
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Speaker 3: I believe that's September the twelfth. It is the openers
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Speaker 3: on the third, and then ten days later or whatever
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Speaker 3: that happens to be. Nine days later will be the
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Speaker 3: second game against the Arkansas Razorbacks. But I just I've
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Speaker 3: read a bunch about Arkansas, some good, some bad. It's
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Speaker 3: a rebuild year, isy'ar. Ryan Silverstein's a new head coach
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Speaker 3: there and he came over from Memphis and they bought
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Speaker 3: him that a bit last year under Sam Pittman, who
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Speaker 3: who began his career doing really good things, but it
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Speaker 3: just it didn't take. And there aren't a lot of
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Speaker 3: high expectations this year for the Razorbacks, but you never know.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes a couple of years ago they weren't high rais.
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Speaker 3: There weren't high expectations for Arizona State. They were picked
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Speaker 3: last of the Big twelve, and they finished first of
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Speaker 3: the Big twelve. So I'm not going to sleep on
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Speaker 3: an SEC team with great history and great athletes like
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Speaker 3: Arkansas has. But I thought we would talk to Quein
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Speaker 3: Grovey today a little bit about what will be coming
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Speaker 3: to Salt Lake City and what we should expect on
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Speaker 3: September the twelfth. So that will be on the docket today,
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Speaker 3: and of course I want to talk to you guys
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Speaker 3: today as well.
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Speaker 1: Text line will be open to.
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Speaker 3: You all day long at eight seven seven three five
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Speaker 3: three zero seven hundred. It could be college football. I
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Speaker 3: hope we have a lot of college football conversation with
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Speaker 3: you guys today, conversation if you want to talk about
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Speaker 3: the Cougars, the Aggies.
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Speaker 1: Weaver State, whatever.
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Speaker 3: I've been immersing myself on a day in and day
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Speaker 3: out basis about especially the Big Twelve. I've done a
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Speaker 3: little bit of diving on Bronco Mendenhall's team, just simply
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Speaker 3: because Utah's gonna play them in the third week of
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Speaker 3: the season. I haven't done a super deep dive yet
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Speaker 3: into the Aggies, but I know a little bit about that.
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Speaker 3: I have looked at the big picture of national college football.
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's a definitive great team in college
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Speaker 3: football this year. I think there's a lot of really
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Speaker 3: good teams, and I think it could be pretty wide
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Speaker 3: open for a championship. I don't think it's definitive that
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Speaker 3: it's in Ohio State or an Oregon.
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Speaker 1: As I look at it, there's probably six.
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Speaker 3: Or seven, maybe as many as eight teams that could
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Speaker 3: win a national championship this year.
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Speaker 1: Now maybe that changes.
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Speaker 3: Again, everything's on paper right now, so we don't know
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Speaker 3: because nobody's played a game yet. I don't know that
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Speaker 3: anybody last year would have said definitively before the year
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Speaker 3: Indiana is gonna be the national champions I think a
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Speaker 3: lot of people liked Indian based on what Kirk Signetti
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Speaker 3: did in his first year, but I don't think anybody
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Speaker 3: before the season was banging the drums saying the Hoosiers
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Speaker 3: are going to run the table and they are gonna
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Speaker 3: be national champions.
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Speaker 1: But it ended up that way.
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Speaker 3: But they were in the mix last year for sure,
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Speaker 3: coming off that first great year under Signetti in Bloomington.
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Speaker 3: So anyway, I have been immersing myself in college football stuff.
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Speaker 3: So if you want to talk college football today, pro
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Speaker 3: football today, hit me up on the text line. It's
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Speaker 3: wide open to you on this Thursday. Eight seven seven
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Speaker 3: three five three zero seven hundred. That is the dish,
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Speaker 3: the text line for you guys to jump in and
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Speaker 3: jump on board today eight seven seven three five three
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Speaker 3: zero seven hundred. And we'll read them as we get
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Speaker 3: him today. So I mentioned Gordy'll be in at eleven
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Speaker 3: thirty today, we'll do an hour of that. I'll mix
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Speaker 3: in college football, pro football news of the day throughout
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Speaker 3: the day today, we'll read some of your text messages
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Speaker 3: and more. Like I said, I could not be more
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Speaker 3: excited as the season is five weeks from today. If
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Speaker 3: you could believe that can't be on Tuesday, August the third,
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Speaker 3: Actually it's Monday, August the third, Although why I have
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Speaker 3: Tuesday in my mind, it's Monday.
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Speaker 1: August the third. They report on Sunday.
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Speaker 3: Tomorrow, Friday is I'm all mixed up, I feel because
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Speaker 3: I usually filled in on a Friday. Today's a Thursday.
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Speaker 3: Sean's out, and anyway, I've got my days all mixed up.
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Speaker 3: Tomorrow's the thirty first. Saturday is the first. Sunday is
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Speaker 3: the second. That's when players report. Though I joke about this,
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Speaker 3: players report, but they've been here pretty much all summer long.
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Speaker 3: It's not like the old days twenty twenty five, thirty
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Speaker 3: years ago, when players would go home for the summer
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Speaker 3: and get a job and then they'd come back and
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Speaker 3: you'd spend the first week and a half to two
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Speaker 3: weeks of fall camp. And this is the same thing
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Speaker 3: with the pros conditioning. They don't do that anymore.
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Speaker 1: These guys. This is a full time job.
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Speaker 3: Many of these young men are being paid now to
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Speaker 3: play football, so it's a full time job and they
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Speaker 3: condition year. So they officially report for fall camp on
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Speaker 3: Sunday and then camp begins on Monday. Of course, you'll
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Speaker 3: be able to see me up at camp. I'll be
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Speaker 3: doing weekly reports on all the social channels and YouTube.
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Speaker 3: Utah Athletics doing that stuff. You'll see features that I'm
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Speaker 3: putting out. I've got a new podcast set going. I've
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Speaker 3: got my regular the Crimson Corner. I had Bradley and
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Speaker 3: I on this week. Bradley and I is not the
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Speaker 3: mayor of sack Lake City. That would obviously undergo to
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Speaker 3: Nate Orchard, but Bradley and I had twenty nine and
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Speaker 3: a halfs as the all time sack leader in Utah
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Speaker 3: football history. And I caught it with Bradley this week
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Speaker 3: just to talk about life and ball. So you can
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Speaker 3: find that on the Crimson Corner. But I've got another
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Speaker 3: set of podcasts going on right now that have a
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Speaker 3: video component to them as well. It's called Under the
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Speaker 3: Headset and we did it a year ago and we
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Speaker 3: brought it back again this year with so many new
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Speaker 3: staff members, and we added a video component so you
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Speaker 3: can listen where you normally get your podcasts, Spotify, iTunes,
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Speaker 3: wherever that might be if you like the video component
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Speaker 3: to your podcast as well.
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Speaker 1: We've got that.
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Speaker 3: A couple have dropped already, get another one dropping a
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Speaker 3: little bit later on today, but Kevin mcgiven, offensive coordinator
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Speaker 3: caught up with Kevin. That one dropped earlier this week.
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Speaker 3: I caught up with Derek Odom, Utah safeties coach, a
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Speaker 3: former Utah player himself, a former Utah safeties coach, is
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Speaker 3: back coaching safeties again. He came back to Salt Lake City,
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Speaker 3: to his alma mater. He had been coaching his defensive
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Speaker 3: coordinator at San Jose State the last couple of years.
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Speaker 1: So caught up with him. We'll have another one dropping today,
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Speaker 1: We'll have two more next week. It's it's good.
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Speaker 3: We've got a lot of content we're cranking out right
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Speaker 3: now on all the different social media channels, podcast channels,
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Speaker 3: all that stuff. So be looking for all of the
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Speaker 3: content that I'm part of and our team, our content
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Speaker 3: team at the University of Utah as part of as well.
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Speaker 3: So if you follow Utah Athletics on Instagram, on x
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Speaker 3: on Facebook, if you follow if you followed Utah foot
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Speaker 3: which many of you probably do, it'll be there too.
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Speaker 3: And it's just it's fun stuff. It's great content. It
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Speaker 3: will wet that appetite just a little bit. As football
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Speaker 3: season again. Practice begins on Monday for Utah and the
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Speaker 3: season kicks off five weeks from today with the Idaho
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Speaker 3: Vandals coming in. You'll hear that game right here on
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Speaker 3: ESPN seven hundred and ninety two to one FM seven
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Speaker 3: o'clock from ricecl Stadium on Thursday night, September the third
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Speaker 3: for the Vandals coming in so with camp beginning, and again,
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Speaker 3: if you want to chime in on anything today, feel
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Speaker 3: free to do so. Eight seven seven three five three
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Speaker 3: zero seven hundred is your text line to get in
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Speaker 3: and on board today. Here on the Sean O'Connell Show,
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Speaker 3: Bill Riley filling in Michael Thompson, let us off today. Gosh,
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Speaker 3: I missed that intro, Bill Riley. It pumps me up. Well, Michael,
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Speaker 3: thank you for listening, and I'm glad it pumps you
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Speaker 3: up still, and I'm glad that you're listening in today,
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Speaker 3: and we'll try and entertain you for the next couple
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Speaker 3: of hours and keep you informed as well.
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Speaker 1: With camp beginning on Monday.
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Speaker 3: I've got a couple of things i want to throw
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Speaker 3: at you here today, But I've been you know, I've
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Speaker 3: been around the program all summer long. Part of my
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Speaker 3: job now is director broadcasting. I'm on campus, I work
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Speaker 3: for the university, so I've had a chance all summer
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Speaker 3: long to catch up with staff and players and assistant
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Speaker 3: coaches Morgan dies Well and just kind of talk football
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Speaker 3: with them. And this team is going to be good
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Speaker 3: this year. You've heard me say that on more than
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Speaker 3: one occasion. I think this team has a chance to
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Speaker 3: be really good this year. The talent is certainly. There
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Speaker 3: are there questions, yes, but everybody's got questions this time
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Speaker 3: of year. Everybody does everybody nationally, regionally, locally, whatever it
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Speaker 3: might be. Everybody's got some questions to answer. But some
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Speaker 3: of the bigger questions for me going into camp, and
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Speaker 3: they're not major questions, but they are questions.
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Speaker 1: Kind of these I put.
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Speaker 3: Four together and if you've got questions, you can feel
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Speaker 3: free to text them to me at eight seven seven
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Speaker 3: three five three zero seven hundred. And this is not
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Speaker 3: in any certain order. But the first question I have
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Speaker 3: is who's going to be the cornerback opposite of Scoocooby Davis.
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Speaker 3: Scooby's got one of those corner spots locked down. I
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Speaker 3: think it's probably gonna be James Channall and or Elijah Reid.
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Speaker 3: Remember we didn't know this last year either. Scooby was
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Speaker 3: there last year and then you know, as it developed,
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Speaker 3: it ended up being young man from UC Davis, whose
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Speaker 3: name is just escaping me right now anyway, So that
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Speaker 3: that's a question again this year, and I think it's
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Speaker 3: a logical question. I don't think I think they've got
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Speaker 3: good talent there. I'm just anxious to see who ends
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Speaker 3: up winning that job. The other the other part of
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Speaker 3: that is too, who's gonna be the slot the nickel corners.
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Speaker 3: They like to say Rock Caldwell, who was part of
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Speaker 3: the program a year ago, got some run there in
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Speaker 3: the spring.
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Speaker 1: I think Nick Brown, who's.
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Speaker 3: Another good defensive back who's been in the program for
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Speaker 3: a year's got a chance to be there. It's an
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Speaker 3: important spot now that that nickel spot's important because in
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Speaker 3: Morgan Scalley now now now Colton Swan's defense, the nickel
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Speaker 3: does a lot. You've got to quote, you've gotta cover
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Speaker 3: sometimes the cover and slot wide receivers. Sometimes you're covering
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Speaker 3: backs out of the backfield. Sometimes you're have it to
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Speaker 3: cover a tight end. Sometimes they're asking you to blitz
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Speaker 3: out of that spot. So that's a big spot. Rock
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Speaker 3: Caldwell might be a name to keep an eye on there.
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Speaker 3: Another question I've got going into fall camp. I don't
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Speaker 3: question the talent there. If you guys have listened to
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Speaker 3: my podcast or even listen to me here. I think
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Speaker 3: the offensive line is gonna be good this year. Will
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Speaker 3: it be all time good like it was a year ago?
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Speaker 3: Will it be five guys going to the NFL next year?
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Speaker 3: Probably not, But I think it's gonna be good. But
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Speaker 3: how quickly does it come together? How quickly do they
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Speaker 3: get it settled in? Do they have the five guys
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Speaker 3: at the beginning of camp on Monday and they get
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Speaker 3: all those reps together? Is it going to be something
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Speaker 3: to where maybe, just maybe it takes some a week
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Speaker 3: of practice to get everybody locked in all five of
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Speaker 3: those positions locked in. I kind of feel like they've
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Speaker 3: got three, maybe four of those spots locked in right now.
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Speaker 3: But just how quick does the offensive line come together?
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Speaker 3: And the last question I've got for camp coming in
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Speaker 3: is what does the pass game look like? I think
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Speaker 3: Kevin mcgiven's gonna want to throw the football around a
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Speaker 3: little bit this year. He's done that at all of
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Speaker 3: his stops. I think they will still be relatively run
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Speaker 3: heavy as well. But what does the past game look
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Speaker 3: like coming in? What's it gonna look like? What's it
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Speaker 3: gonna is it gonna be wide receivers. Is it gonna
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Speaker 3: be backs out of the backfield? Is it gonna be
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Speaker 3: tight ends? What what are we gonna what's that pass
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Speaker 3: game gonna? Is he gonna take shots down the field?
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Speaker 3: Is it gonna be a lot of short and intermediate stuff?
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Speaker 3: Because Devin has shown he's really good at that, And
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Speaker 3: maybe some of that question depends on what the prior
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Speaker 3: question looks like. How quickly does the offensive line come together?
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Speaker 3: Because you can't take shots down the field if your
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Speaker 3: quarterback doesn't have a little bit of time to set up.
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Speaker 3: You've got to give those routes time to develop. So
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Speaker 3: what does it look like and how quickly does it
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Speaker 3: come together? So those are just a few of the
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Speaker 3: questions I have coming into camp. If you have some,
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Speaker 3: feel free to share them. Eight seven seven three five
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Speaker 3: three zero seven hundred. But this is my big kind
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Speaker 3: of question of the day. I threw this out of
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Speaker 3: my podcast the other day at Crimson Corner, and I'll
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Speaker 3: throw it out to you guys today too. If you
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Speaker 3: haven't heard the podcast, shit, you can go find it
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Speaker 3: where you get your podcasts. We know what the most
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Speaker 3: important position on the field is. It's quarterback. It always is.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if you're a conference or national championship
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Speaker 3: contender or you're a bottom barrel program. You have to
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Speaker 3: be good at quarterback. You just simply have to be
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Speaker 3: good at quarterback. It's the most important position. It impacts
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Speaker 3: the game more than any other position because that guy
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Speaker 3: has the ball in his hands, he's the decision maker.
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Speaker 3: So we take quarterback out of this discussion. Outside of quarterback,
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Speaker 3: which position group will impact Utah's on field success most
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Speaker 3: this season? Outside of quarterback? Which position group will impact
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Speaker 3: Utah's on field success most this season? Is it the
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Speaker 3: wide receiver spot or we've heard Morgan scally say it
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Speaker 3: might be the deepest room he's ever had or coached.
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Speaker 3: Is it the offensive line group? Oh, the group we've
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Speaker 3: talked so much about replacing five starters. Maybe it's that
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Speaker 3: quarterback room. Maybe it's the secondary overall. Maybe it's the
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Speaker 3: linebacker group. But for your number and for your sake,
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Speaker 3: which position group do you think impacts Utah's on field
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Speaker 3: success most this year? Drop me a line on the
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Speaker 3: text line at eight seven seven three five three zero
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Speaker 3: seven hundred.
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Speaker 1: And let me know.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna surprise you with my answer. Usually I wait
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Speaker 3: a little while to let you you marinate on that
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Speaker 3: just a little bit. But I'm gonna give you my
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Speaker 3: answer right now, and it may surprise you just a
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Speaker 3: little bit. For me, I think it will be the
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Speaker 3: defensive line. Can they pressure the quarterback with four? Last year,
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Speaker 3: everybody had Logan Fanos circled as the impact guy. Well,
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Speaker 3: it turned out Logan had a solid season. He's on
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Speaker 3: an NFL roster now with his brother in Cleveland. But
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Speaker 3: the guy that kind of came out of nowhere last
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Speaker 3: year was John Henry Daily ended up with eleven and
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Speaker 3: a half sacks, a bunch of quarterback pressures. Unfortunately, he
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Speaker 3: tore his achilles in the season. But they were able
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Speaker 3: to get pressure last year mostly with four because of
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Speaker 3: Fano on one side and John Henry Daily on the
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Speaker 3: other side. They were an excellent duo, not just with sacks,
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Speaker 3: but with pressures too.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 3: The defensive tackle room is relatively new. There's a few
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Speaker 3: names and faces back. We've talked about some of those
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Speaker 3: guys Poo Poo set Balona, guys like Carson Kafusi, and
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Speaker 3: then you've got a bunch of new guys in there too.
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Speaker 1: The defensive end room a little new.
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Speaker 3: They've added Ethan Day from North Texas, but Lance Holtsklaw Cash, Dylan,
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Speaker 3: Paul Fitzgerald, those guys are all there.
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Speaker 1: For me, I think the offensive line is going to
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Speaker 1: be solid.
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Speaker 5: I do.
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Speaker 3: I've talked to enough people up there, players and coaches.
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Speaker 3: I think the offensive line for Utah is going to
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Speaker 3: be solid. You've got a mobile quarterback, you can move
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Speaker 3: him around, do a lot of things. You can run
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Speaker 3: the ball. I don't have any real concern or anything
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Speaker 3: about that, and I think it will be a solid group.
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Speaker 3: But for me, on the defensive side of the football,
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Speaker 3: if Utah is going to be really successful, they need
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Speaker 3: that defensive line to be able to step up and
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Speaker 3: do what Morgan Scalley and Colton Swan want that defensive
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Speaker 3: line to do, and that's get after the quarterback, get
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Speaker 3: up the field. That way, you don't have to get
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Speaker 3: exotic all the time to create pressure with blitzes and
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Speaker 3: scheme pass rush up. If you can rush for it
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Speaker 3: allows your defense to do so many things. So I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna say the entire I'm not gonna just say edges.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say defensive line because the tackles have to
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Speaker 3: be good too. Remember last year Utah struggled late in
20:44
Speaker 3: the year against the run. We'll see if they fix
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Speaker 3: those issues too. So for me, the position group that's
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Speaker 3: going to impact Utah's on field success the most this
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Speaker 3: year outside of quarterback. For me, I'm gonna say, defensive line,
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Speaker 3: you tell me what you think and I'll certainly read
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Speaker 3: them as we get them here today. Eight seven seven
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Speaker 3: three five three zero seven hundred. That's the text line
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Speaker 3: to get you in and on the program today, and
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Speaker 3: we'll go in that direction. Eight seven seven three five
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Speaker 3: three zero seven hundred text message in forty three seventy one.
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Speaker 3: The position group most crucial is the defensive backfield, the
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Speaker 3: safeties and corners, mostly the safeties. They need to come
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Speaker 3: up and make the tackles in the box, like Williams
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Speaker 3: and Bishop did. Okay, really you need your linebackers to
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Speaker 3: be really good doing that too. But I don't think
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Speaker 3: that that's a bad's that's bad either because you're in
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Speaker 3: a league where they throw the ball a lot. Will
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Speaker 3: Healy says, oh line, great to hear you today, Bill
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Speaker 3: go utes, thanks well. Twenty one thirty one says Hey, Bill,
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Speaker 3: hope you get this. Can we name this, Tell me
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Speaker 3: what you think Scali's School or School of Scali? Just
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Speaker 3: throwing it out there. What are we talking about here?
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Speaker 3: School of Scali? Are we talking about the camp itself?
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Speaker 3: Or are we talking about something else? I don't know
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Speaker 3: a little more specific without one am, I'm not sure
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Speaker 3: what you were going for there, Jordan Peters says offensive line.
22:45
Speaker 3: You might be right, Jordan, but I just kind of
22:47
Speaker 3: feel like the offensive line is going to be solid
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Speaker 3: across the board this year. To me, the defensive line
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Speaker 3: is that position group that could impact Utah's on field
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Speaker 3: success the most. One of the Bredet boys checking in today,
23:05
Speaker 3: It's Austin says. If our defensive line can stop the run,
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Speaker 3: this year will dominate the Big twelve. I think our
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Speaker 3: offensive line will be better than predicted. Thanks for being
23:13
Speaker 3: on today. Always great to hear your voice. Get me
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Speaker 3: through the workday. Co Alta Hawks football?
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Speaker 5: Okay?
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Speaker 1: Fair enough? Matt Rigby says, the PAC twelve lives again?
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Speaker 1: How did that happen?
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Speaker 5: Now?
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Speaker 3: Is it really though? The Pac twelve? I mean, just
23:30
Speaker 3: because you put a name on something doesn't make it that.
23:35
Speaker 3: I'm very happy. I think it's going to be a
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Speaker 3: very solid Football League, but it's not the PAC twelve.
23:43
Speaker 3: The only real Pac twelfth part of it is Washington
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Speaker 3: State and Oregon State, and they were the lesser to
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Speaker 3: probably the least two members of that conference. Again, very
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Speaker 3: happy for Utah State and all those schools. I think
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Speaker 3: it'll be a nice league. But PAC twelve text message
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Speaker 3: ninety twenty one says, Hey, Bill, how do you feel
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Speaker 3: BYU will do with Jay Hill's departure.
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Speaker 1: I feel like it hasn't been talked about when.
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Speaker 3: BYU won over won over five games from the comebacks
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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter and mostly because of the defense
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Speaker 3: and the changes they made with Jay Hill.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully that makes sense. No, it does.
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Speaker 3: I actually do think it's been talked about quite a bit.
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Speaker 3: If you look at the turnaround, BYU had been solid.
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Speaker 3: Kilane's done a great job there. But the last two years,
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Speaker 3: the two years where Jay's been coordinating that defense down
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Speaker 3: there have been two of the best seasons in the
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Speaker 3: history of BYU football. That doesn't mean that Kelly Pepinga
24:47
Speaker 3: can't come in and do a nice job. He's been there.
24:50
Speaker 3: He's sliding over, but again he hasn't been in that
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Speaker 3: position before, So we'll see what happens. Gennaro Guildford was
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Speaker 3: a big part of that too, by the way, he
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Speaker 3: went with Jada Michigan and he had done I mean,
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Speaker 3: they're cornerbacks, which had always been just kind of eh.
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Speaker 3: I think Guildford had done. He and Jay had done
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Speaker 3: a really nice job coaching those corners up down there.
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Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. I think.
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Speaker 3: I think that's a big question to b Yu and
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Speaker 3: I think obviously developing playmakers on the outside for Bachmeyer too.
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Speaker 1: You've got LJ.
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Speaker 3: Martin in a good offensive line, so you're gonna be
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Speaker 3: able to run the football against most teams. But there's
25:27
Speaker 3: gonna come a time. The thing about running the football
25:29
Speaker 3: is teams can stack the box. It's it's it's it's not.
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Speaker 3: I won't say it's easy, but you can take a
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Speaker 3: run game away. But when you do that, are there
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Speaker 3: playmakers on the outside? Could back Meyer get the ball
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Speaker 3: down the field? Are there guys that can make place?
25:44
Speaker 3: Because they had some guys the last couple of years
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Speaker 3: down there. Chase Roberts was really good. Kilan Marrion before
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Speaker 3: he left, he was really good. Cody Hagen was really good.
25:56
Speaker 3: So can't can they develop some playmakers on the outside.
26:02
Speaker 3: Text message in from Spencer Cobb today, Hey Bill, how
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Speaker 3: surprised would you be to see Utah go seven and five?
26:13
Speaker 3: Utah has a good team, but even some great teams
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Speaker 3: have underwhelming years, especially with a new coach at a
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Speaker 3: deeper Big Twelve Conference teams like TCU, Houston and Arizona
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Speaker 3: being better. Why I would I would to be very fair, Spencer,
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Speaker 3: I would be shocked if they stay healthy again. Injuries
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Speaker 3: can play. If we're just assuming there aren't cataclysmic injuries,
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Speaker 3: I would be very surprised if Utah.
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Speaker 1: Went seven and five.
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Speaker 3: In fact, I think that there's a world where they're
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Speaker 3: eight to no going into the BYU game. Houston will
26:45
Speaker 3: be a tough game, But if you look at the
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Speaker 3: teams they're playing, just just go down the line. Idaho
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Speaker 3: one double a program. Arkansas sec program but very much
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Speaker 3: in rebuilding mode. Pick to finish near the bottom of
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Speaker 3: the SEC. Utah State picked lower middle of the new
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Speaker 3: PAC twelve, with a lot of rebuilding going on up there.
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Speaker 3: Iowa State lost their entire roster new coaching staff. Pick
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Speaker 3: near the bottom of the Big twelve. Colorado pick near
27:16
Speaker 3: the bottom of the Big twelve Kansas retooling kind of
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Speaker 3: picked lower middle of the Big twelve. I'm just these
27:23
Speaker 3: are the teams that Utah begins with. Their schedule gets
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Speaker 3: tough on the back end. You mentioned some of those schools, Houston, Arizona, TCU.
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Speaker 3: Those are all good teams that they'll have to play
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Speaker 3: in two of those three on the road BYU at home.
27:37
Speaker 3: But seven and five would surprise me my honest opinion,
27:42
Speaker 3: and this is just one man's opinion. This is nobody
27:45
Speaker 3: else saying it. I honestly, If healthy think the low
27:49
Speaker 3: end of the totem poll for Utah is a nine
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Speaker 3: to three season, I think that's the low end. I
27:56
Speaker 3: think the high end could be maybe even an eleven
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Speaker 3: and one type season again if everything comes together. Not
28:03
Speaker 3: making a prediction now, but that's kind of the range
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Speaker 3: I see them in. For them to go seven and five,
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of things would have to go
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Speaker 3: wrong this year. Thank you for your text message eight
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Speaker 3: seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
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Speaker 1: If you want to reach me today. Question of the
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Speaker 1: day today.
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Speaker 3: I threw some questions going into camp, not just some
28:26
Speaker 3: position battles, but kind of some fall camp questions for
28:28
Speaker 3: Utah football fall camp begins coming up on Monday. But
28:32
Speaker 3: my question of the day for you guys today, for
28:34
Speaker 3: Utah fans or if you just football fans, fall of
28:36
Speaker 3: Utah and if you're a BYU fan, and if you
28:39
Speaker 3: want to kind of twist this around to the Cougars too,
28:42
Speaker 3: can feel free to do that. Outside of quarterback, which
28:46
Speaker 3: we always know has the most impact on any team,
28:50
Speaker 3: which position groups impact will have the greatest impact on
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Speaker 3: field for on field success for Utah this year? I said,
28:58
Speaker 3: for me, I think it's got to be the defensive line.
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Speaker 3: I think for Utah to be really good defensively, they
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Speaker 3: need that line to be really good. I know a
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Speaker 3: lot of you have said offensive line, and that's fair,
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Speaker 3: but I think the offensive line is going to be good.
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Speaker 5: I do.
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Speaker 3: For me, it's defensive line. But you give me your
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Speaker 3: two cents worth eight seven seven three five three zero
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Speaker 3: seven hundred again eight seven seven three five three zero
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Speaker 3: seven hundred one more text message in today, Babs.
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Speaker 1: I think that's me.
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Speaker 3: Always love these special editions when you grace the airwaves
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Speaker 3: with your voice. Thanks for pumping us up and getting
29:41
Speaker 3: us ready for the season. Go utes well, Babs. Thank
29:45
Speaker 3: you for listening in today, appreciate it. You'll really love
29:49
Speaker 3: this next segment coming up. He is everybody's favorite, especially mine.
29:57
Speaker 3: Tuck to Gordy Chiza coming up next year on The
29:59
Speaker 3: Shadow Show on ESPN seven hundred and ninety two ONEFM.
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Speaker 6: He's out.
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Speaker 4: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
30:11
Speaker 4: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Giasa. He's forgotten more about the
30:14
Speaker 4: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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Speaker 6: Let's not get crazy to come for the hoops talk.
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Speaker 4: Stay for his list of the day Our list today,
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Speaker 4: here's o C. What's basketball so about? Gordy Giasa on
30:25
Speaker 4: The Sean O'Connell Show.
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Speaker 3: Not So Fast, OHC is not here today. B R
30:31
Speaker 3: is with GC. Today Gordia jays in studio and talk
30:35
Speaker 3: some NBA basketball. Last time Gordi and I talked, Summer
30:38
Speaker 3: League was just getting ready to start up in Las Vegas,
30:41
Speaker 3: and so now we've got that under our belt.
30:43
Speaker 1: So we've got that to.
30:44
Speaker 3: Talk about, look ahead to the season and more.
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Speaker 1: Gordon, are you Bill?
30:49
Speaker 6: I'm doing fine, Thank you.
30:50
Speaker 1: You had a little vacation time, a little downtime, went
30:53
Speaker 1: up to Montana, got to see some Selot family very much.
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Speaker 6: I was in Mozilla Montana, which is a beautiful uh
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Speaker 6: uh it's city, and uh we had a good time
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Speaker 6: of doing nothing.
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Speaker 1: Doing nothing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, doing nothing, that's what That's what retirement's about, Gordy. Yeah,
31:08
Speaker 3: it's doing a lot of nothing.
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Speaker 6: Now. People told me that before I retire, I was
31:11
Speaker 6: doing nothing also, but that's a different story. Unlike you,
31:15
Speaker 6: you're the hardest working guy that we know.
31:17
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not sure about that, but I do try
31:19
Speaker 3: to to to uh to bust it just a little
31:22
Speaker 3: bit here. So the summer's been good. We'll, uh, we'll
31:25
Speaker 3: talk a little bit about everybody put out their their
31:28
Speaker 3: their summer league report cards and how how how individuals
31:33
Speaker 3: played and how individuals didn't play and things like that,
31:35
Speaker 3: which I always find to be interesting.
31:37
Speaker 5: Gordy.
31:37
Speaker 3: Now, if if an individual like a Darren Peterson or
31:40
Speaker 3: a Caleb Wilson had an absolutely flat and terrible you know,
31:44
Speaker 3: they averaged eight points a game in summer League, you'd
31:46
Speaker 3: be a little worried about that. But the thing you
31:49
Speaker 3: have to worry remember about summer league is you're not
31:51
Speaker 3: really playing with the guys if you're you know, Aj Debonsen,
31:55
Speaker 3: Darren Peterson and Caleb Wilson and Cam Boozer that you're
31:58
Speaker 3: gonna be playing with during the race regular season. You're
32:00
Speaker 3: playing with a bunch of guys that aren't likely to
32:03
Speaker 3: make the team and maybe aren't even gonna be in
32:06
Speaker 3: the G League. They're probably going to go play in
32:08
Speaker 3: some league in Paraguay or Mexico or something like that.
32:11
Speaker 3: So I always find it hard to really judge and
32:15
Speaker 3: give a letter grade to people. But how do you
32:18
Speaker 3: view evaluating Summer League players, especially the guys that are
32:22
Speaker 3: the first round picks.
32:24
Speaker 6: Well, the top four picks played absolutely tremendous. That's including
32:28
Speaker 6: Jazz Darren Peterson. Jazz held him out some of the games,
32:32
Speaker 6: especially in Vegas, but when he was ready to play,
32:36
Speaker 6: he performed. They didn't shoot well, and it's ironically because
32:39
Speaker 6: that's the best thing he does is make shots. He's
32:41
Speaker 6: a you know, thirty eight percent three point shooter and
32:43
Speaker 6: his form is absolutely pitch youre perfect. So he got talent.
32:48
Speaker 6: He gets in that lane with that strong body, he
32:50
Speaker 6: can make a play.
32:51
Speaker 1: All right, nitpick for me just a little bit though
32:54
Speaker 1: on what you saw from him.
32:55
Speaker 6: Well, he's not really a point guard, right, So a
32:58
Speaker 6: lot of people say, well, he can play the point,
33:00
Speaker 6: he can enter the ball on the offense, but a
33:02
Speaker 6: point guard is your job is a point guard in
33:05
Speaker 6: the at every level, especially in the NBA, is to
33:08
Speaker 6: get everybody involved in the offense. Then the last five
33:11
Speaker 6: seconds of a shot clock, you become the offense yourself.
33:15
Speaker 6: Before that you were getting everybody involved, with the exception
33:18
Speaker 6: being if the guy guarding you will falls down on
33:20
Speaker 6: his feet with tangled the tangle footwear, then you go
33:24
Speaker 6: by him. Otherwise your job is to geverybody involved. So
33:28
Speaker 6: Darren Peterson, his development, his ball handling has to improve,
33:31
Speaker 6: but also decision making that you can't have eight turnovers
33:34
Speaker 6: in a game. You cannot. Again, he's so young, he's
33:38
Speaker 6: twenty years, twenty years, youthful, with enthusiasm. I love his game.
33:42
Speaker 3: Is there something though in summer League do coaches I
33:46
Speaker 3: know Will Hardy isn't technically the coach, but he's overseeing everything,
33:50
Speaker 3: And is there something where they kind of want these
33:52
Speaker 3: guys to go out and be free flowing and show
33:56
Speaker 3: what they can do. How how upset or ways to
34:00
Speaker 3: coaches get about? You know, he had the big one,
34:03
Speaker 3: big turnover game. I mean, are you dwelling much on that.
34:07
Speaker 3: If you're the Jazz, No you're not. Okay you're not,
34:10
Speaker 3: but we do though. You want to try to get
34:12
Speaker 3: value the ball, like go at every level.
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Speaker 6: Your job is any sports, matter of fact, whether it's football, basketball,
34:19
Speaker 6: is to value the ball. And that means what decision
34:23
Speaker 6: making and a lot of times in the NBA, even
34:26
Speaker 6: though you're playing in a Big twelve or a ACC
34:29
Speaker 6: or the Big Bad Big East or the Big Ten,
34:32
Speaker 6: is that the game is absolutely more physical in the
34:34
Speaker 6: regular season and then also in the playoffs, it's a
34:38
Speaker 6: whole different level. And you saw that first hand where
34:42
Speaker 6: Jellen Brunson tight people who's got a strong body at
34:46
Speaker 6: six foot two, the defensive players who are really good
34:49
Speaker 6: were bouncing off and meaning Stephen Castle and Dylan Harper
34:53
Speaker 6: and all those other people. Champagney of the Spurs, they
34:56
Speaker 6: couldn't guard him because of decision making and a strong body.
35:01
Speaker 6: So Darren p'son type players A did the boncer Caleb Wilson.
35:05
Speaker 6: Now Cam Boos ironically he's stronger ready. So cam Buos
35:08
Speaker 6: is probably the most underrated guy where no one talks
35:11
Speaker 6: about him. You know what he does simply he wins.
35:13
Speaker 3: How much better do you think, cambell I mean, we
35:16
Speaker 3: talk about high floor, low ceiling guys. I think they
35:19
Speaker 3: use that description with a guy like Cam Boozer, right,
35:21
Speaker 3: I mean, does he have superstar written on him for you?
35:25
Speaker 3: Or does he just have star all star perhaps guy
35:30
Speaker 3: that's gonna have a ten to twelve year career, or
35:34
Speaker 3: do you think he could be a superstar?
35:36
Speaker 6: Well, I'm going a different viewpoint. I'm gonna go for
35:39
Speaker 6: a point where is that he's an average for his
35:41
Speaker 6: career twenty two and eleven and five dimes. Okay, So
35:47
Speaker 6: a superstar means that he can carry a franchise, deepen
35:51
Speaker 6: the players every year. He would be probably on an
35:54
Speaker 6: elite team, your second best player, right, which is great?
35:58
Speaker 1: So nothing so that whatsoever?
36:01
Speaker 6: All Right, So the answer is I love his game.
36:05
Speaker 6: I coached his dad. He's dead. This guy's even better
36:08
Speaker 6: than his dad potentially, and Carlos Boozu was an under
36:11
Speaker 6: again and Jess focal.
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Speaker 1: He's a better all around player than his dad was.
36:16
Speaker 6: His dad was.
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Speaker 3: His dad was a somewhat undersized power forward, somewhat who
36:22
Speaker 3: could really rebound and score around the basket.
36:25
Speaker 1: This kid can do more.
36:27
Speaker 3: He's a passer. He can space out on the floor
36:29
Speaker 3: and shoot the ball a little. Carlos got better with that,
36:32
Speaker 3: as most NBA guys carl did. To the further you
36:35
Speaker 3: go along in your career, he's more ready because that's
36:38
Speaker 3: where the game is today, very much.
36:39
Speaker 6: And by the way, he's only nineteen years old. These
36:42
Speaker 6: guys are so young, Bill, I know, guys nineteen years old,
36:45
Speaker 6: they don't know what what's today is today, Thursday, Wednesday.
36:48
Speaker 6: I'm not sure he's not.
36:49
Speaker 3: Nineteen year olds in life and in general are young
36:53
Speaker 3: and dumb. They don't have any idea. This guy, though,
36:55
Speaker 3: he does. He's a nineteen year old that gets it
36:57
Speaker 3: very much.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, And in Memphis Grizzlies, there is I know, last
37:02
Speaker 6: year it was a bizarre they won twenty seven games
37:04
Speaker 6: and lost fifty five. But the Grizzlies they've done a
37:08
Speaker 6: good job with their roster and who they acquired, and
37:11
Speaker 6: they will be a better team this year. And Jazz Basketball,
37:16
Speaker 6: there's like the Spurs and the thunder are by far
37:20
Speaker 6: the best teams, but everyone else is. So you're gonna
37:23
Speaker 6: make a narrative where there's no perfect third place team
37:26
Speaker 6: right now, where whether it's the Nuggets Lakers, Rockets, Tea, Wolves, Sons, Trailblazers, Clippers, Warriors, MAVs, Grizzlies, Jazz.
37:36
Speaker 6: They're all bunched up in my eyes. The only two
37:39
Speaker 6: teams that really would be on the bottom, it seems
37:43
Speaker 6: to me, would be the Pelicans and the Kings. Everyone else.
37:47
Speaker 6: You gonna make a discussion point, Hey, we're gonna be good.
37:49
Speaker 6: And here's the reasons why. Usually speaking, the way a
37:52
Speaker 6: team is get improves is that they play better defense.
37:56
Speaker 6: And that's the Jazz right now. In Jazz basketball, you
37:59
Speaker 6: cannot you cannot be the Jazz as far as the
38:02
Speaker 6: last two years where defense they struggled both on ball
38:06
Speaker 6: and off ball. On ball means what that I pride
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Speaker 6: myself where I'm gonna guard the ball in my defensive
38:12
Speaker 6: stance to my best of my ability, use my hands
38:15
Speaker 6: without fouling. And then if I do make a the
38:18
Speaker 6: player does penetrate and gets in the lane, we're gonna
38:22
Speaker 6: be organized, get to the corner to challenge that three
38:25
Speaker 6: point shot. And that's what you do. And Bill, I
38:27
Speaker 6: know Bill right now, I'll put you on the spot.
38:30
Speaker 6: I've been talking to you way too infrequent. So Bill,
38:33
Speaker 6: by the way, how far is the NBA short corner?
38:37
Speaker 6: Three twenty two feet? That's exactly right, Bill. This is
38:40
Speaker 6: why Bill, you're a scholar and I'm a starving artist.
38:43
Speaker 3: Well, this is the reason why you've drilled that into
38:45
Speaker 3: my head for the last fifteen years.
38:47
Speaker 6: Let's see, Bill, how far is the arc three point
38:51
Speaker 6: line NBA ARC? Yeah, NBO.
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Speaker 1: Twenty six feet?
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Speaker 6: Oh my god, I'm glad you're not an astronaut. I
38:58
Speaker 6: am glad we're not going to right now. We're going
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Speaker 6: through the wrong planet right now. Twenty three nine. Let's
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Speaker 6: go yester year. Bill. How far is the old school
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Speaker 6: red white and blue iconic ball ABA?
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Speaker 1: Three twenty two feet?
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Speaker 6: Bill, I am so glad that you're not an astronaut.
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Speaker 6: I'm so glad that you and your loved ones aren't
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Speaker 6: going through the planet. All right, it's twenty five feet
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Speaker 6: twenty five, twenty five way out there.
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Speaker 1: But Steph Curry is the old school college three line?
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Speaker 5: All right? Oh?
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Speaker 6: Twenty one?
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Speaker 3: I think it was nineteen nineteen nine, Okay, I think
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Speaker 3: it was nineteen all right, So I sud you're not
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Speaker 3: an astronaut either, blee, trust me, you're NASA is glad? Also,
39:42
Speaker 3: remember when you're a coach minus Morgan Scalley. Minus Morgan Scalley,
39:46
Speaker 3: most coaches really have a hard time Bill in mathematics.
39:50
Speaker 6: Well, math is hard, yeah, most times, Matt so Bill.
39:54
Speaker 6: I wasn't really a scholar in let's say, algebra or
39:58
Speaker 6: trigonometchy geometry a tree. But I do know one thing
40:01
Speaker 6: right now, at the short corner three, he's twenty two feet.
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Speaker 3: You have to guard it in the NBA, all right,
40:06
Speaker 3: any I want to get some quick hitters on the
40:09
Speaker 3: other big draft names. But aside from Darren Peterson, you
40:13
Speaker 3: tell me, was there anybody else that really showed for
40:17
Speaker 3: this summer for the Utah Jazz that impressed you?
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Speaker 1: Impressed you? I don't know.
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Speaker 6: Answer is no, No.
40:23
Speaker 1: Are you worried about Cody Williams.
40:27
Speaker 6: This mixed result? The answer is I'm worried, yes, because
40:29
Speaker 6: he should be better than he is. He's got he's
40:31
Speaker 6: gotten stronger. But as the tenth pick in the draft,
40:35
Speaker 6: you need more, Okay, you need like that tenacity. Okay,
40:38
Speaker 6: I'm six seven and a half. I'm I'm a fanatical.
40:43
Speaker 6: I'm guarding this guy. I'm ducking on a guy's noggin.
40:45
Speaker 6: I'm making rainbow threes. I'm giving go cutting in again.
40:49
Speaker 3: Just do one thing really well, right, yeah, all they
40:52
Speaker 3: have to do a lot of things. Well, he's not
40:54
Speaker 3: his brother, we know that. But a second full season,
40:57
Speaker 3: you know, this is his second summer, third summer, yeah,
40:59
Speaker 3: third third summer going into it. He I don't I
41:02
Speaker 3: can't find one thing that he does well right now.
41:06
Speaker 3: One thing that if Will Hardy said I need to
41:07
Speaker 3: put him in the game to do this, I'm not
41:09
Speaker 3: sure what that would be right now, Gordy. And that's
41:11
Speaker 3: that's the part that's a little troubling, right.
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Speaker 6: Yes, it is.
41:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, you have to either guard, you have to
41:17
Speaker 3: make threes either or not. Both quick hitters. Aj De bonsa.
41:21
Speaker 6: Tremendous, absolutely the rocker Gibraltar alter talented. He's going to
41:26
Speaker 6: help the Wizards again improve.
41:29
Speaker 1: What did you see? Just give me a thought on
41:30
Speaker 1: what you saw from him in Summer League.
41:32
Speaker 6: That he can create his own shot, and that he
41:34
Speaker 6: can rebound in traffic and bust out, dribble and make
41:37
Speaker 6: a play. He's a willing passer. I love his game
41:40
Speaker 6: and the Wizards. I know the Wizards bill. The Wizards
41:44
Speaker 6: have not won fifty games bill since nineteen seventy nine.
41:49
Speaker 6: Let's put in a context, Bill and your illustrious life.
41:52
Speaker 6: You finished ku after many as a struggling Bill in
41:56
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety two, so Bill you have. So the Wizards
42:02
Speaker 6: slash Washington Bullets, if I remember right, have not won
42:05
Speaker 6: fifty games since nineteen seventy nine. Let's put in political
42:09
Speaker 6: Dandridge wes Unsel all right, and jazz basketball. It was
42:15
Speaker 6: a rarity the Jesse win fifty games in that era.
42:18
Speaker 6: They won fifty all the time. So let's put it
42:21
Speaker 6: in context. So AJ is gonna try to help with
42:24
Speaker 6: his trusted sidekicks. Now build The problem is Trey Young,
42:28
Speaker 6: all right.
42:29
Speaker 1: See it doesn't play winning basketball, Gordy.
42:33
Speaker 6: I like his talent, but there's something missing so far,
42:39
Speaker 6: a conscience, all right. So the question is with AJ,
42:43
Speaker 6: will they let him? Eventually it will be his team.
42:47
Speaker 6: The question is when? All right, Well, that's it with
42:49
Speaker 6: quick hitters here. These are quick hitter all right.
42:51
Speaker 3: So we've already talked about Boozer de Bonsa and Darren Peterson,
42:55
Speaker 3: Caleb Wilson.
42:57
Speaker 6: Do you like Kevin Garnett? Do you like James Worthy?
43:01
Speaker 6: That's that's a j Wilson bus fourth pick in the draft.
43:05
Speaker 6: Absolutely tremendous. I love his game. He's bouncy, he can
43:10
Speaker 6: make threes, he can score, and that guy, that guy
43:13
Speaker 6: does it with a smile.
43:14
Speaker 3: Keaton Wogler underrated the fifth pick by the Clippers.
43:19
Speaker 6: All around player from Illinois. He's been well schooled and
43:24
Speaker 6: he will help the Clippers.
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Speaker 1: Didn't did he have a good summer league or did
43:28
Speaker 1: he get better as summer went on?
43:30
Speaker 6: He got better, some went on. I just love his talent.
43:34
Speaker 3: Darius Aka very good, create his own shot, absolutely very good.
43:39
Speaker 3: Kingston Flemings Okay, winning game. He's been challenged in practice.
43:43
Speaker 3: I'm positive he's kind of the opposite at point guard
43:47
Speaker 3: from what Trey Young was. Right, Yeah, it's more of
43:50
Speaker 3: a willing passers? Is that because of where he played
43:53
Speaker 3: and who he played for?
43:54
Speaker 6: Very much? I mean Kelvin Sampson. Kelvin Sampson, who's now
43:58
Speaker 6: who coach you? Uston Cougars, which goes against b YU
44:02
Speaker 6: and the Utah Right now, when you have a guy
44:04
Speaker 6: from Houston that you know that they've been challenged and practiced,
44:09
Speaker 6: so for them to run back on defense is no
44:11
Speaker 6: big deal.
44:13
Speaker 3: All right, Just of all the summer league that you
44:15
Speaker 3: watched and I didn't. You didn't watch as much as
44:17
Speaker 3: you have in years gone by, but you watched a lot.
44:21
Speaker 6: Who are your sources like?
44:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you guessing you have? You're not watching
44:26
Speaker 1: the same amount that you used to when you used
44:28
Speaker 1: to coaching it.
44:29
Speaker 6: Anyway, what are you talking about?
44:31
Speaker 5: I was my my.
44:34
Speaker 6: My loving wife was had an attitude towards me about
44:38
Speaker 6: I thought you retired.
44:39
Speaker 3: The lovely and talented Nancy. I'm went good o fall Well, yeah,
44:43
Speaker 3: I would much better half. She was probably golfing anyway,
44:47
Speaker 3: so you could watch plenty while she was out golfing
44:49
Speaker 3: with girls with their sidekicks. Give me another, Give me
44:53
Speaker 3: a player somebody we haven't talked about that really impressed
44:56
Speaker 3: you in summer.
44:56
Speaker 6: League, that's easy LA Lakers Cameron Karr okay O.
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Speaker 1: The Baylor Bear. I saw him play for Baylor. He
45:02
Speaker 1: was a good player at Bay.
45:03
Speaker 6: I got that right. He got some talent. He can make,
45:06
Speaker 6: he can make threes. He's gonna play for the Lakers.
45:10
Speaker 6: I know the Lakers are what's the word, They're in
45:12
Speaker 6: a crossroads right now. But he's very good at pick
45:16
Speaker 6: number twenty four? Are you kidding me? He's got an
45:18
Speaker 6: NBA game. He's ready.
45:19
Speaker 3: All right, let's grab a break. We're gonna come back. Obviously,
45:22
Speaker 3: there's been a lot of other stuff going on in
45:23
Speaker 3: the NBA. Lebron he's he's a Philadelphia seventy six er.
45:29
Speaker 3: He's just bouncing, bouncing again. So we'll talk a little
45:33
Speaker 3: bit about that, what that means to the dynamic overall
45:36
Speaker 3: in the league and more. By the way, they're apparently
45:39
Speaker 3: finalizing a deal Lebron and his people with ESPN to
45:43
Speaker 3: follow him around all year long for a documentary. They're
45:46
Speaker 3: trying to say, this is Last Dance esque. Does anybody
45:50
Speaker 3: really think any documentary? And I like Lebron James, but
45:54
Speaker 3: there's nothing nearly as interesting and compelling about Lebron James
45:59
Speaker 3: as there was about Michael Jordan because it's just a
46:02
Speaker 3: different time. You didn't have social media and constant cameras
46:07
Speaker 3: following you all the time and access. We didn't know
46:11
Speaker 3: much about Michael besides what we saw on game day
46:14
Speaker 3: and the rest of the Bulls. That's why that documentary
46:17
Speaker 3: was so interesting. In today's day and age, we know
46:20
Speaker 3: everything all the time about Lebron and athletes like Lebron,
46:24
Speaker 3: So I don't think comparing it to the last Dance
46:28
Speaker 3: is probably the right way to go, just my opinion. Anyway,
46:31
Speaker 3: we'll talk about the rest of the league coming up
46:33
Speaker 3: with Gordy. We'll have a list which I don't know
46:34
Speaker 3: what it is just yet, and more coming up on
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Speaker 3: a Thursday, Sean O'Connell Show. Bill Riley in for Sean
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Speaker 3: Today on ESPN seven hundred and ninety two ONEFM.
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Speaker 4: Let me tell you your tune to the Sean O'Connell
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Speaker 3: Gordy's in with us, and I'm in today too, O'Riley
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Speaker 3: and Treshan O'Connell. We'll talk some football in the noontime hour.
47:04
Speaker 3: Actually we'll talk football really after Gordy leaves. I've got
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Speaker 3: a question out there for you guys today. Hit me
47:09
Speaker 3: up with the text line. If you have questions for
47:11
Speaker 3: Gordy about the Jazz or about the NBA, you can
47:13
Speaker 3: hit us up on the text line as well too.
47:15
Speaker 3: I've got a bunch of text messages. I still got
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Speaker 3: To get you on board, Bill Riley, Gordy chiesa today
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Speaker 3: here on ESPN seven hundred. So I texted our good friend,
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Speaker 3: our common friend, our good friend, Tony Jones and said,
47:40
Speaker 3: you get to cover the circus this year because of
47:42
Speaker 3: course our friend Tony is now covering the Philadelphia seventy
47:45
Speaker 3: six ers for the Athletic and Lebron James is a
47:50
Speaker 3: member of the philadeph That Philadelphia team was going to
47:52
Speaker 3: be good already. Gordy with Tyrese Maxi vj Edgecombe. They
47:57
Speaker 3: added Jalen Brown in that trade. This summer. They got
48:00
Speaker 3: rid of Paul George, but I think was additioned by subtraction.
48:03
Speaker 3: And when he plays Joel mbij a really really good
48:06
Speaker 3: basketball player, the thing is he just gotta get him
48:09
Speaker 3: on the floor. But now you add Lebron James to
48:11
Speaker 3: that mix. What do you make of the Philadelphia seventy
48:13
Speaker 3: six ers and Lebron's decision to go to Philly.
48:15
Speaker 6: They're right there as far as contending in the East,
48:18
Speaker 6: so they can You're going to go against the Pistons,
48:20
Speaker 6: who in sixty games last year the Celts who overachieved
48:23
Speaker 6: and the world champion Nikobockers who really are eighteen. So
48:27
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a fascinating in the Eastern Conference. Who
48:30
Speaker 6: can come out of it as far as advancing to
48:33
Speaker 6: get to the NBA found Lebron. Here's the math about him.
48:36
Speaker 6: He turns forty two on December thirtieth. He's still in
48:39
Speaker 6: the top twelve players in the NBA. Will he fit
48:42
Speaker 6: in with the seventy six is? The answer is yes quickly.
48:45
Speaker 6: He should be the starting lineup for the sixties Terse
48:48
Speaker 6: Maxi All Star. Top of his game, a tremendous talent,
48:54
Speaker 6: plays to win at two guard. Should be jh O
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Speaker 6: Rookie Team last year from Baylor, second year player. Again
49:04
Speaker 6: major talent, can score the ball both over the top
49:07
Speaker 6: as far as shooting the ball and I penetrating at
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Speaker 6: small forward. Jeleen Brown second Team All Pro last year
49:13
Speaker 6: all around player. He gets a due over now with
49:16
Speaker 6: the seventy six is mentally and we'll see it. He
49:19
Speaker 6: should play out Lebron James. I'll call him a point forward.
49:24
Speaker 6: Last year he averaged twenty three points a game and
49:27
Speaker 6: eight rebounds and seven point three assist and Joel Embiid.
49:31
Speaker 6: Bill mentioned about Joelebbie's average for his Korea twenty seven
49:35
Speaker 6: points a game for his Korea. So when he is healthy,
49:39
Speaker 6: it's great. Anthony Simon's off the bench, can score the ball.
49:43
Speaker 6: Get Tavis Cole Pope, all around player, defensive minded. Then
49:48
Speaker 6: they go Justin Edwards from Kentucky. It will be a
49:51
Speaker 6: third year player that can make shots. Then then if
49:54
Speaker 6: they go also Dean Wade now part of the Cavaliers
49:57
Speaker 6: last year, off the bench, knockdown shooting, and then as
50:01
Speaker 6: the backup senate should be for Nickelbacker's. A young guy
50:04
Speaker 6: is the German descent, Ariel Hapordi who played for the
50:08
Speaker 6: Knicks last year, and he'll back up Joel Unbeid. So
50:11
Speaker 6: they're ten deep right now. Can they do it? The
50:14
Speaker 6: answer is we're gonna find out. But they're right there
50:17
Speaker 6: to seventy six ers.
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Speaker 3: Taking health out of the equation because you've got to
50:21
Speaker 3: be healthy to win this thing.
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Speaker 5: You just do.
50:23
Speaker 3: If they lose Embiid or what, it's probably going to
50:26
Speaker 3: side swipe you from being a champion. But what do
50:29
Speaker 3: you see as the biggest issue that Nick Nurse and
50:33
Speaker 3: the Sixers and this team have to deal with to
50:37
Speaker 3: win a championship, to contend in the East, to win
50:39
Speaker 3: that thing.
50:39
Speaker 6: Share the ball, okay, yeah, share the ball absolutely. So
50:43
Speaker 6: they have a lot of players that are used to
50:45
Speaker 6: having the ball to make place and as far as assist,
50:49
Speaker 6: and now the question is can you not have the
50:52
Speaker 6: ball and move without the ball? Meaning what screening action, backscreen, spacing,
50:56
Speaker 6: re screen, dribble, handoff, just making basketball decisions for the
51:01
Speaker 6: betterment of the team quickly. The last time that the
51:04
Speaker 6: Sixson won the championship bill was nineteen eighty three.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Moses Malone, Mo Cheeks, Bobby Jones, Doctor J, Doctor J,
51:14
Speaker 3: Andrew Tony, one of my all time favorite NBA players
51:17
Speaker 3: whose career was sidelined by injuries.
51:20
Speaker 1: But he was so good.
51:22
Speaker 3: Mo Cheeks, I said, Mo Cheeks, I believe, I believe
51:26
Speaker 3: you had Caldwell Jones on that team. He had to
51:29
Speaker 3: both the Jones. There's no relation Bobby and Caldwell, but
51:32
Speaker 3: they were. But it was Moses and Doctor J and
51:34
Speaker 3: Andrew Tony and Mo Cheeks.
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Speaker 1: They were good. They beat If I'm not mistaken, they
51:37
Speaker 1: beat the Houston Rockets or did they beat the Lakers Rockets.
51:41
Speaker 1: It was the Rockets.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and the last time he made the NBA Finals
51:44
Speaker 6: was two thousand and one with Allen Iverson.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that team had no chance because they were playing
51:49
Speaker 3: the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe.
51:51
Speaker 6: Kobe and that team that too. So again, the city
51:54
Speaker 6: of Bradley love. Remember Bill, Remember the time Bill that
51:57
Speaker 6: at an Eagles game they boots and threw icicles ice
52:02
Speaker 6: bowls at Santa Claus, Bill, what kind of city is this?
52:05
Speaker 3: I got hit with an ice ball once at Mile
52:07
Speaker 3: High Stadium by a Broncos fan when I was down
52:09
Speaker 3: on the sideline.
52:10
Speaker 1: I was battling the flu. It was the end of
52:12
Speaker 1: a game.
52:13
Speaker 3: The Jaguars were getting pummeled by the Broncos. What was
52:16
Speaker 3: her name, I don't know if it was a hymn.
52:19
Speaker 3: If it was, it was a female, it probably could
52:21
Speaker 3: have been. I was in a trench coat in the
52:22
Speaker 3: snow and somebody nailed me in the back of the
52:24
Speaker 3: head with an ice ball. I already had the flu.
52:27
Speaker 3: It was not a good day in Denver that day.
52:29
Speaker 3: I see you toughed it out. So me and Santa
52:31
Speaker 3: Claus have something in common. Getting pelted by mad, angry,
52:35
Speaker 3: nasty football fans. Philadelphia fans and Bronco.
52:38
Speaker 6: Fans very much so, as edetis intrigue right now with
52:42
Speaker 6: lebron slash Bill Rilly. As far as Philadelphia is that,
52:47
Speaker 6: it's a it's a typical East Coast city where they
52:51
Speaker 6: loved their passionate about their team, the Knickerbockers. Are you
52:55
Speaker 6: kidding me? Those guys won the championship for the first
52:58
Speaker 6: time since nineteen and three, and Jellen Brunson and that
53:04
Speaker 6: crew Mike Brown was the coach. They did a tremendous
53:07
Speaker 6: job as far as team building and playing as a unit.
53:11
Speaker 3: It felt like everything fell in place and came together
53:14
Speaker 3: for the Knicks this year. Do you feel like they
53:17
Speaker 3: would have a second run or was this year just
53:19
Speaker 3: kind of that perfect storm for them?
53:21
Speaker 6: Perfect storm? Yeah, perfect nothing.
53:23
Speaker 1: They'd be bad.
53:24
Speaker 3: But if I was picking a title contender, I don't
53:27
Speaker 3: know if I would pick the Knicks, which is weird
53:29
Speaker 3: to say because they were dominant in the playoffs too,
53:32
Speaker 3: But it just kind of felt like everything just fell
53:34
Speaker 3: perfectly into place for them this year.
53:36
Speaker 6: Good for them. They won fifty three games last year. Now,
53:38
Speaker 6: if you're in the Pistons, you're saying, kay Hunning, I'm
53:41
Speaker 6: their crew right now and Jelen Duran are saying that
53:45
Speaker 6: we can a year again, a maturity so much. Again,
53:48
Speaker 6: It's the question, as always for anybody that involved in sports,
53:52
Speaker 6: when does the maturity factor kicking for an individual player
53:57
Speaker 6: and the team. Is it twenty three years old? Is
54:00
Speaker 6: it twenty seven? Is it thirty one? Is it thirty four?
54:03
Speaker 6: Or by the way, is it never?
54:04
Speaker 5: Here's the question.
54:05
Speaker 3: Here's a question I have for you though. Okay, tight
54:09
Speaker 3: game one possession down the stretch. Who's the closer for Philadelphia?
54:13
Speaker 6: Tery S Maxey?
54:14
Speaker 3: So it's not Jalen Brown, No is Somebody gonna have
54:17
Speaker 3: to tell him that because I think he probably thinks
54:19
Speaker 3: it is. Yes, it does Lebron James think he's the
54:21
Speaker 3: closer still? Yes, Okay, Well, isn't that a problem if
54:25
Speaker 3: you're Nick there's something you probably have to address early
54:27
Speaker 3: in the season so very much when those occasions come up.
54:30
Speaker 3: Because I agree with you, Terse Maxey is a closer,
54:34
Speaker 3: but I can see why Jalen Brown would think he
54:35
Speaker 3: would be. And Lebron James is maybe the second best
54:38
Speaker 3: player in the history of the game.
54:40
Speaker 6: He probably thinks he could be too correct. And also
54:43
Speaker 6: Joel and b give me the ball, low block. I
54:44
Speaker 6: can score to anybody in the world, and he can.
54:47
Speaker 6: And that's the power of coaching. Now, Nick Nurse, that
54:50
Speaker 6: guy in a good way is a wild card coach.
54:52
Speaker 6: Who's the dealing it. And it's a compliment. Remember in
54:56
Speaker 6: the NBA slash NFL. You can't be like you have
55:01
Speaker 6: to be like this sort of like edgy person. That's
55:04
Speaker 6: a very that's a great communicator, but you're like edgy
55:08
Speaker 6: where the players really don't know where what you're going
55:11
Speaker 6: to say to them the next moment. And that is good.
55:15
Speaker 6: That is absolutely good, and that's how you communicate. And
55:18
Speaker 6: that's why Nick Nurse, he's ready for this challenge. Now
55:21
Speaker 6: the question is, well the players listen? Yo, Sometimes Bilt
55:24
Speaker 6: that players I call have invisible ear muffs. They're yes
55:28
Speaker 6: to you, they're saying, they're nodding. Yes, they are making
55:30
Speaker 6: a verbal nod, but they're not really listen. They're hearing you,
55:33
Speaker 6: but they're not really listening.
55:35
Speaker 3: All Right, we've got to grab a break. We'll come
55:36
Speaker 3: back on the other side. A few other NBA happenings.
55:39
Speaker 3: We got a list of the day, a couple of
55:40
Speaker 3: text messages for Gordy as well, if you have one.
55:43
Speaker 3: Gordy would love to hear from you. So what I'm
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Speaker 3: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred is
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Speaker 5: Thing.
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Speaker 4: She was listening to a Sean O'Connell show from the
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Speaker 5: One af AM.
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Speaker 1: Hour two.
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Speaker 3: OC's out today riles in with Gordy as we talked
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Speaker 3: some NBA stuff and.
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Speaker 6: Now it's Barkley Bill, and known that you were here,
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Speaker 6: Jains Peace and I our colleague, we decided that we
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Speaker 6: had to have some songs your personality, so of course
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Speaker 1: That's another one of your songs.
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Speaker 6: Bill. I don't want to go there, Bill, I don't
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Speaker 6: want to talk about my playlist.
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Speaker 1: You've got a great playlist. It's very diverse. Sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, nineties,
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Speaker 1: current times.
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Speaker 3: Bill, the Beastie Boys, what were you listening to during
56:51
Speaker 3: your workout this morning? The Beastie Boys are great. I
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Speaker 3: saw him a couple of times in concert.
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Speaker 6: Yes, smart worked out to the Beastie Boys.
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Speaker 2: You did?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I also was it like a mix? Was it a
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Speaker 3: particular album maybe Paul's boutique? Maybe licensed to Ill?
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Speaker 6: What was it a license to Ill?
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Speaker 3: That's part of it. That's the OG right there. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: that's the OG. But also I wore that cassette tape
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Speaker 3: out by the way, Gordy, this is why Bill, you're
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Speaker 3: successful and I'm a starving artist.
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Speaker 1: You're not artist.
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Speaker 6: But speaking of another starving artist, Bill Rally, let's lebron
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Speaker 6: let's quickly. It is a short many list by as
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Speaker 6: far as he is.
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Speaker 1: This our list list. No, okay, this is just a
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Speaker 1: mini list. You brought two lists in.
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Speaker 6: Today and your honor.
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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you?
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Speaker 6: All right, So this is the all time Korea on
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Speaker 6: court salary leaders in the NBA. How much money you
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Speaker 6: made in your career? The top ten in the NBA.
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Speaker 1: Just from your salary, endorsements and everything else.
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Speaker 6: That's correct, all right, And here's the question to you,
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Speaker 6: Bill and all listeners right now in the ESPN seven
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Speaker 6: hundred driving in the car, do you think this money
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Speaker 6: that these players made are worth the money? Okay, it's
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Speaker 6: the question now, But ten all time, Anthony Davis bit
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Speaker 6: his Korea three hundred and sixty million dollars in thirteen seasons.
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Speaker 3: No, okay, number nine, he's injured too much. That's that's
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Speaker 3: his problem. But my answer for him is No.
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Speaker 6: Number nine all time Dame Lillard Weaver State thirteen years.
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Speaker 6: Dames made three hundred and sixty five million dollars.
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Speaker 3: I will say yes because he was the face of
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Speaker 3: the Portland Trailblazers and he was their Marquis franchise guy
58:25
Speaker 3: for so many years.
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Speaker 6: A great Number eight all time Jimmy Butler fourteen years,
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Speaker 6: three hundred and sixty six million.
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Speaker 3: No, he's often injured, and he's a little moody. Odd
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Speaker 3: all right, odd in Moody.
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Speaker 6: Remember if your star if your most player, but besides
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Speaker 6: your point guard, if your best player is Moody, your
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Speaker 6: whole team is Moody. No, the guy selling hot dogs
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Speaker 6: is Moody. In the twenty seventh row, the marketing director
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Speaker 6: is Moody based on because the star player quote is
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Speaker 6: Moody at number seven all time, fifteen years in the NBA.
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Speaker 6: And let's say Bill right now, there's a lot of
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Speaker 6: contrarits about him. Kawhi Lennt he's made in his career
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Speaker 6: three hundred and seventy five million.
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Speaker 1: This is a tough one because one championship.
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Speaker 3: Got a championship in Toronto, didn't he get one in
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Speaker 3: San Antonio as well?
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Speaker 5: And two?
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Speaker 3: Yes, in twenty fourteen, So he's got two championship. No,
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Speaker 3: he lost in twenty fourteen. Oh, he lost in twenty fourteen.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say no.
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Speaker 6: No, pardon he won in twenty fourteen. Yeah, apologies me,
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Speaker 6: he's got two. My apologies.
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Speaker 3: I will say this, he hasn't been good as the
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Speaker 3: face of a franchise.
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Speaker 1: Does that make sense very much?
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Speaker 3: He's he had the one good year in Toronto, but
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Speaker 3: in the other stops like the Clippers and some other
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Speaker 3: places where they've expected him to kind of be that face,
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Speaker 3: he's Yeah. I'm gonna say, as much as I liked
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Speaker 3: the player, and I remember I called his games when
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Speaker 3: he was at San Diego State in the Mount West
59:57
Speaker 3: playing Utah, I never thought he would be this player.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no. On Kawhi Leonard, what would you say?
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Speaker 6: Agree?
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 6: Number six all time in the NBA for twenty years.
1:00:09
Speaker 6: Just retired, Chris Paul. He's made in Korea earnings four
1:00:14
Speaker 6: hundred and four million dollars.
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Speaker 3: I'm not the biggest Chris Paul fan Spence Checkets loves
1:00:19
Speaker 3: Chris Paul, loved it, didn't ever win a championship. He's
1:00:25
Speaker 3: got an odd personality too, but he was always I
1:00:29
Speaker 3: always felt like he was a good leader for whatever
1:00:32
Speaker 3: team he was on. So I'm gonna say yes on
1:00:34
Speaker 3: Chris Paul.
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Speaker 6: Yes. So number five, Paul George, No sixth He finished,
1:00:41
Speaker 6: Hi way, you're so emotional.
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Speaker 3: You could say twelve dollars and seventy seven cents and
1:00:45
Speaker 3: I would say no on Paul George.
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Speaker 6: I'm saying right now, four hundred and six million.
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Speaker 1: And where's that put him on the list?
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Speaker 6: Fifth all time?
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that that is. That's criminal I like it.
1:00:56
Speaker 6: Bill Riley is talking about criminality.
1:00:58
Speaker 1: What do you say?
1:00:59
Speaker 6: A great?
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Speaker 5: Okay?
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Speaker 6: Number four all time? I love getting Bill Raley fired
1:01:05
Speaker 6: up like I'm fired up. James Harden four hundred and
1:01:09
Speaker 6: eleven million dollars in sixteen seasons. No, No, agreed?
1:01:14
Speaker 5: No? All right?
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Speaker 6: Number three?
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Speaker 1: You know, one of the great what ifs of all time?
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Speaker 5: Though?
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Speaker 3: What if Oklahoma City would not have traded him or
1:01:22
Speaker 3: let that I don't. They didn't trade him, they let
1:01:24
Speaker 3: him go. They don't even walk.
1:01:25
Speaker 6: They couldn't play me. They paid sergeabaka.
1:01:27
Speaker 1: Search of Bob.
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Speaker 3: It was a nice player, but they for all the
1:01:31
Speaker 3: credit that Sam Presty gets. That was But I would
1:01:34
Speaker 3: have loved to see he and Durant and Westbrook. I mean,
1:01:37
Speaker 3: you want to talk about a team, I don't know
1:01:39
Speaker 3: how Nick Collison and Nick Collison your guy who you
1:01:42
Speaker 3: coached in Seattle, and they had some other good players too.
1:01:45
Speaker 3: I just would have loved to see if that team
1:01:47
Speaker 3: stayed together. I think they might have won a championship.
1:01:49
Speaker 6: Agreed.
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Speaker 1: Okay, A big no though on James Harden.
1:01:53
Speaker 6: Okay, number three, the world's greatest shooter of all time,
1:01:56
Speaker 6: both off the dribble. Stayerry, you don't even have to
1:02:01
Speaker 6: tell me the number here, Steph Curry. In sixteen years,
1:02:05
Speaker 6: he's made as far as Korea earnings, four hundred and
1:02:08
Speaker 6: seventy million dollars.
1:02:09
Speaker 3: You could have told me you could have doubled that
1:02:11
Speaker 3: number and said he made nine hundred and forty million dollars,
1:02:14
Speaker 3: and I would have still said it was he was underpaid.
1:02:16
Speaker 3: Steph Curry, you can't put it. You could ask is
1:02:19
Speaker 3: it is it the Lakeups that own the Warriors. Yes,
1:02:23
Speaker 3: you could ask Joe Lacob and his family and they
1:02:26
Speaker 3: would tell you whatever we have paid him isn't nearly enough.
1:02:30
Speaker 6: So the answer is yes on Steph Curry number two
1:02:33
Speaker 6: all times. I agree one hundred percent. You remember were
1:02:36
Speaker 6: both alluding to it. Besides the winning, it's the signage,
1:02:40
Speaker 6: the whole thing about him, as far as it's economic,
1:02:44
Speaker 6: wherewithal he with the franchise.
1:02:46
Speaker 3: The people he has brought to the game of basketball,
1:02:49
Speaker 3: that he has put butts in the seats, Jersey, selling
1:02:52
Speaker 3: in Jersey, I mean, it's everything. He has been an
1:02:55
Speaker 3: ambassador for the game and for the Warriors, all of it.
1:02:57
Speaker 3: So yes on Steph Curry number two all time. Kevin Durant.
1:03:01
Speaker 3: In eighteen years, he's made five hundred and one million dollars.
1:03:07
Speaker 1: This one's tougher.
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Speaker 5: I just.
1:03:11
Speaker 1: Durant is a weirdo.
1:03:13
Speaker 5: He is.
1:03:13
Speaker 3: He's just one of those. He's a fantastic basketball player.
1:03:16
Speaker 3: He really plays one end of the floor. He's picked
1:03:19
Speaker 3: his spots career wise where he'll it's situationally, He'll play
1:03:22
Speaker 3: a little defense.
1:03:24
Speaker 1: He is a mercenary. Wouldn't you say that he is
1:03:26
Speaker 1: a hired gun. He is a mercenary.
1:03:29
Speaker 3: Whether it was Oklahoma City or Golden State, the Brooklyn
1:03:32
Speaker 3: thing was always the weird thing to me.
1:03:35
Speaker 1: He left a dynasty to.
1:03:37
Speaker 6: Go to Brooklyn with Kyrie Irving.
1:03:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it's we I mean, those two are
1:03:43
Speaker 3: made for each other. Although I will say Alex Jensen
1:03:46
Speaker 3: loves Kyrie Irving, he coached him in Dallas. Thinks Kyrie
1:03:49
Speaker 3: is a bit misunderstood great basketball player. How much did
1:03:53
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant.
1:03:53
Speaker 6: Make five oh one million second old time half.
1:03:58
Speaker 1: A billion dollars?
1:03:59
Speaker 3: Yes, he's got what two champion championships led by his sidekicks,
1:04:04
Speaker 3: and they were never his team that was stepped I'd
1:04:07
Speaker 3: even tell it was and Raymond he was. He may
1:04:10
Speaker 3: have been the second best player, but he was the
1:04:12
Speaker 3: fourth banana on that team.
1:04:14
Speaker 5: Correct.
1:04:14
Speaker 1: I'll say no on Kevin Durant.
1:04:16
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna lean towards it like yes, Okay, I'll
1:04:19
Speaker 6: thank you. Yes, And the number one player of all
1:04:21
Speaker 6: time we all know we talked about him in the
1:04:24
Speaker 6: recently a few minutes ago. Twenty three years in the NBA,
1:04:29
Speaker 6: Lebron James has made Korea wise salary five hundred and
1:04:32
Speaker 6: eighty one million dollars.
1:04:34
Speaker 3: It's a resounding yes. Lebron James is whether you like
1:04:39
Speaker 3: him or don't like him. What's funny to me, Gordy
1:04:42
Speaker 3: about even the seventies, he's always getting a choose accused
1:04:46
Speaker 3: of chasing the ring. Isn't that what everybody does? Doesn't
1:04:49
Speaker 3: everybody want to play with good players and do things
1:04:52
Speaker 3: like that. He showed early in his career his greatness
1:04:56
Speaker 3: when he carried that Cleveland Cavaliers team that had no
1:04:59
Speaker 3: business Think was it O seven? They went to the
1:05:02
Speaker 3: championship at seven team? Yeah, they had no business being there.
1:05:06
Speaker 3: It was like Booby Hobbes and was.
1:05:09
Speaker 1: It no boot?
1:05:10
Speaker 6: Sasha Plovich was a boot?
1:05:12
Speaker 2: Was was it? Was it?
1:05:13
Speaker 3: Movie Hobbs Gibson go Booby Gibbs, Booy Hobbs played for Utah. Yeah,
1:05:16
Speaker 3: but there aren't a lot of boobies in sports. I
1:05:19
Speaker 3: got my boobies mixed up. I don't cut that, James.
1:05:22
Speaker 3: I worry about leave that alone. Yeah, I worry about you.
1:05:25
Speaker 1: Uh yeah.
1:05:26
Speaker 3: I mean he's great and what he's done, I mean,
1:05:30
Speaker 3: he's he's just he's a great He's not the greatest
1:05:33
Speaker 3: player of all time. He's had the he's probably had
1:05:36
Speaker 3: the greatest lengthy career. I mean the level he's playing
1:05:40
Speaker 3: at for and his career earnings are five hundred and
1:05:43
Speaker 3: sixty million, is that what it is?
1:05:45
Speaker 5: One?
1:05:45
Speaker 3: And he's taken three point eight this year. I mean, yeah,
1:05:48
Speaker 3: Lebron James absolutely positively worth every penny that he's earned.
1:05:53
Speaker 3: That that the that the calves, the Lakers, the heat.
1:05:56
Speaker 3: Now the Sixers have paid him all right quickly.
1:05:58
Speaker 6: Just from a Jeff players there's four names Rudy Gobert
1:06:03
Speaker 6: made in his career in twelve seasons, two hundred ninety
1:06:07
Speaker 6: five million dollars to ninety five worth it.
1:06:11
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, he.
1:06:14
Speaker 5: Is what he is.
1:06:15
Speaker 3: I mean, you're not expecting Rudy to score twenty five
1:06:18
Speaker 3: a game. Rudy is an elite rebounder and rim protector
1:06:22
Speaker 3: and by the way, screener, screener, and he was a
1:06:27
Speaker 3: better teammate than people gave him credit for. Donovan Mitchell
1:06:31
Speaker 3: was the problem here, not Rudy Gobert.
1:06:34
Speaker 1: We know that now. We didn't know that at the time,
1:06:37
Speaker 1: but that that's that's the deal. So I yeah, I
1:06:40
Speaker 1: mean two hundred ninety five million over how many.
1:06:42
Speaker 6: Years twelve years.
1:06:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair for Rudy Gobert all right.
1:06:47
Speaker 6: Mike Conley twenty fifth all time, right behind him, really,
1:06:51
Speaker 6: Mike Conley, Yeah, nineteen seasons the NBA. It's the first
1:06:54
Speaker 6: thing he made for his Korea and celts right now,
1:06:58
Speaker 6: two ninety five.
1:06:59
Speaker 3: Also, I like Mike Connolly a lot. He's a really
1:07:02
Speaker 3: good guy and he seems like a good team man.
1:07:04
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that he's worth two undred ninety five million.
1:07:06
Speaker 6: I just two more former jazz people now, but thirty
1:07:09
Speaker 6: one all time career earnings Kevin Love in seventeen seasons.
1:07:13
Speaker 1: Are you really think Kevin Love is a jazz guy?
1:07:16
Speaker 6: Absolutely? One year? Absolutely? Okay, Kevin Love to seventy seven.
1:07:21
Speaker 3: Now, No, he's He was a good player with the
1:07:23
Speaker 3: t Wolves early in his career, helped Cleveland win that
1:07:26
Speaker 3: title with Lebron.
1:07:27
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's worth two hundred seventy seven million,
1:07:29
Speaker 1: do you?
1:07:30
Speaker 2: No?
1:07:30
Speaker 5: No?
1:07:31
Speaker 3: But i'd like I like his game and less injuries
1:07:33
Speaker 3: kind of I mean arouse body. Yeah, his body kind
1:07:35
Speaker 3: of broke down there.
1:07:36
Speaker 6: And the least one is this person that the thirty
1:07:40
Speaker 6: third highest ever Korea earnings former jazz man for nine seasons.
1:07:46
Speaker 6: I'm preferencing this Gordon Hayward in the NBA fourteen years
1:07:51
Speaker 6: he made seventy million. No, all right, so you no,
1:07:55
Speaker 6: I agree? Now, I mean, Gordon Hayward was just a
1:07:58
Speaker 6: one time also good player. I'm not begrudging him making
1:08:03
Speaker 6: the money. He didn't put that gun to anybody's head
1:08:06
Speaker 6: and say you've got to pay me this. They paid
1:08:08
Speaker 6: him the money, but I mean, he's just a good
1:08:11
Speaker 6: NBA basketball players. So much the economics of it is
1:08:14
Speaker 6: the timing of your career, like when you played and
1:08:17
Speaker 6: what the team needed, and are you coming off a
1:08:20
Speaker 6: really a stellar season and the year before that team
1:08:24
Speaker 6: let a good player go because they were arguing over
1:08:27
Speaker 6: a five million dollar increase. So the following year you're
1:08:30
Speaker 6: the benefactor of it. Will last year we let a
1:08:33
Speaker 6: guy go that we regret. Now we've got to sign
1:08:36
Speaker 6: this guy. And that's so much, as I called circumstantial,
1:08:39
Speaker 6: as far as beneficial to your career. So that's my
1:08:42
Speaker 6: mini list today. I wanted to see what people thought
1:08:46
Speaker 6: of it. Lebron James though with the seventy six ers,
1:08:48
Speaker 6: now I built I read a thing about it. Also,
1:08:51
Speaker 6: there's a twenty one players in college basketball that make
1:08:55
Speaker 6: more money than Lebron James this year in il money.
1:08:59
Speaker 6: So Lebron makes this year the lotion getting in the
1:09:03
Speaker 6: year which Bill lebrond He's making three point eight eight million.
1:09:07
Speaker 6: There's twenty one guys make more money and nil money
1:09:11
Speaker 6: in college basketball.
1:09:12
Speaker 3: Go back to your days of coaching in the Big
1:09:14
Speaker 3: East with the Providence Friars. Yes, who would have been
1:09:17
Speaker 3: the highest paid player nil wise when you were coaching
1:09:21
Speaker 3: in the Big East?
1:09:22
Speaker 1: Okay, Derek Coleman.
1:09:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, Derek Coleman, second, piggoted, Drew Patrick Ewing, Absolutely, Patrick Ewing.
1:09:30
Speaker 3: Chris Mullen, tell me the guy that you think would
1:09:32
Speaker 3: have would have gotten the most, Patrick Patrick?
1:09:35
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Patrick Ewing? Yeah, Okay, Patrick, well and well deserved.
1:09:40
Speaker 6: And Patrick Ewing right now, ironically is now assistant coach
1:09:43
Speaker 6: of the Wizards. He's in the coach agent de botxer.
1:09:46
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, ok So talk about going full circle and like, Bill,
1:09:50
Speaker 3: I love getting you fired up right now.
1:09:52
Speaker 6: I mentioned a few guys' names. Bill, you have your
1:09:54
Speaker 6: game face on, you have your utah fourth and one
1:09:57
Speaker 6: at the goal line, you describing it as the as
1:10:00
Speaker 6: the tackle makes a great block, and the running back
1:10:04
Speaker 6: tiptoes in.
1:10:06
Speaker 3: By the way, don't ever take the ball when you've
1:10:08
Speaker 3: got a quarterback like Devin dam Pierre, don't never take
1:10:10
Speaker 3: the ball out of his hands on.
1:10:11
Speaker 1: Fourth and short.
1:10:12
Speaker 6: Okay, I like it.
1:10:13
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he has to carry it, but I'm
1:10:15
Speaker 3: saying he has to touch it and make the defense reacting.
1:10:18
Speaker 1: Okay, would you agree? Do you ever take the ball
1:10:21
Speaker 1: out of Michael Jordan's hand and use him as a decoy?
1:10:25
Speaker 6: No, answers, absolutely no.
1:10:27
Speaker 2: No.
1:10:27
Speaker 3: When you've got a star player, especially at a quarterback spot,
1:10:30
Speaker 3: you make sure that they get they have the ball
1:10:33
Speaker 3: in their hands and let them make the decision.
1:10:35
Speaker 6: You just describe Patrick Mahomes.
1:10:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, him too. Got a text question for you, Gordy.
1:10:41
Speaker 3: Matt sends this in today, says Gordy, what did Sloan
1:10:45
Speaker 3: do during summer league?
1:10:47
Speaker 6: Okay, he observed. He's in the stamps observing.
1:10:51
Speaker 3: It was Saltly Community College back in those days. He
1:10:53
Speaker 3: would sit up in the stands because I sat up.
1:10:55
Speaker 3: I was sitting sitting in the sands too.
1:10:56
Speaker 6: You he hate observe it, and he would tell he
1:10:58
Speaker 6: would take them either visual notes or mental notes about
1:11:03
Speaker 6: the players and after the game become in the locker
1:11:05
Speaker 6: room and he would address the team and just talk
1:11:10
Speaker 6: to him a few minutes about what they should keep
1:11:14
Speaker 6: working on.
1:11:15
Speaker 1: What did you do during summer league?
1:11:16
Speaker 6: Okay, I used to coach the team YEP for sixteen
1:11:19
Speaker 6: years and we used to get the guy again. We
1:11:23
Speaker 6: always talked about your job is to try to The
1:11:27
Speaker 6: question is philosophically, how can we ask coaches showcase your
1:11:31
Speaker 6: talent individual talent within what a team game? That's the question.
1:11:35
Speaker 6: So when we say he has swing the ball from
1:11:37
Speaker 6: side to side on the second side of the floor,
1:11:40
Speaker 6: that's a great chance for you to go organized one
1:11:42
Speaker 6: on one and that's the reason we always tay organize
1:11:45
Speaker 6: one on one, and that gives a great chance for
1:11:47
Speaker 6: the rebounders to carve out space to offensive rebound to
1:11:51
Speaker 6: showcase what they're serious hops or what their attitude to
1:11:55
Speaker 6: rebound in traffic. Defensively, can you guard your own man?
1:11:59
Speaker 6: And you can you play help to help with defense.
1:12:01
Speaker 6: So that's what we talked about all the time in
1:12:03
Speaker 6: summer league. It transferred over to what game skills with
1:12:07
Speaker 6: the real team, the varsity, meaning what Utah Jess, did.
1:12:10
Speaker 1: You enjoy coaching summer league.
1:12:11
Speaker 6: Oh very much. Yeah, because you know that a lot
1:12:13
Speaker 6: of times your career, that probably a decree of a player.
1:12:17
Speaker 6: You're putting him in a game and encourage him. At
1:12:20
Speaker 6: one time, we'll say with a it was Howard Eisley
1:12:23
Speaker 6: where he struggled with his young player. He struggled. He
1:12:25
Speaker 6: struggled in a summer league gamehere, he couldn't make a shot.
1:12:28
Speaker 6: I remember saying. I remember saying to him, I am
1:12:30
Speaker 6: not taking you out of this game. You're gonna You're
1:12:32
Speaker 6: gonna fight through this. And he did, and then suddenly
1:12:35
Speaker 6: in that fourth quarter he goes five for five. It
1:12:38
Speaker 6: helps him give confidence. But more importantly, you remember, besides
1:12:42
Speaker 6: your own team looking at you, there's other twenty nine
1:12:45
Speaker 6: teams in European teams that are looking at you to
1:12:47
Speaker 6: see if you can play for them. So it's way
1:12:49
Speaker 6: beyond just the one team. It's the whole league watching you.
1:12:53
Speaker 6: It's a pretty intense.
1:12:54
Speaker 3: Another text question in here, This one comes in and
1:12:57
Speaker 3: says Gordy, with almost every star moving in today's game,
1:13:01
Speaker 3: Steph is on his last year. Do we think Steph
1:13:05
Speaker 3: is on his last year? Do we think he leaves
1:13:08
Speaker 3: or retires with Golden State.
1:13:11
Speaker 6: Golden State retires.
1:13:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not. He's not going to play. If he
1:13:15
Speaker 3: was going to play someplace else, I think he would
1:13:16
Speaker 3: have done that by now.
1:13:17
Speaker 6: By now, yeah, exactly the last two three years the Warriors.
1:13:20
Speaker 6: They're one in twenty two, which is really a wh's
1:13:23
Speaker 6: really a great accomplishment. So now this is this is
1:13:25
Speaker 6: already the twenty six, twenty seventh season. He's there right now.
1:13:28
Speaker 6: I hope he stays, really truly. And also I think
1:13:32
Speaker 6: that Cooper Flagg would also stay with the Maps because
1:13:36
Speaker 6: he's gonna be the face of the franchise. And then
1:13:38
Speaker 6: Bill the Spurs, Victor Wenbiamba, Stephan Castle, Dylan Harper, that
1:13:43
Speaker 6: crew if they should do everything possible to keep those
1:13:47
Speaker 6: guys together, goes. All three of those guys are young people,
1:13:50
Speaker 6: they have winning games, and all three are play in
1:13:54
Speaker 6: harmony and rhythm, and that's what makes the Spurs so interesting.
1:13:58
Speaker 6: Do you think Steve kurrys win?
1:14:01
Speaker 5: Yeah?
1:14:01
Speaker 6: Curry retires so well. The contracts well, there are two
1:14:04
Speaker 6: years left in his contract if you signed it, and
1:14:06
Speaker 6: he's the highest paid coach in the NBA at seventeen
1:14:09
Speaker 6: million dollars a year. He's worth it. I think he will.
1:14:12
Speaker 1: I just don't feel like he would want to stick
1:14:15
Speaker 1: around for a rebuild.
1:14:17
Speaker 5: No, he would not not.
1:14:18
Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna Draymond signed a one year deal.
1:14:20
Speaker 3: Steph's got a year or so left. Yeah, I just
1:14:23
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like.
1:14:24
Speaker 6: Well, Steph's got two years left.
1:14:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right now. Yeah, but they just kind of
1:14:28
Speaker 1: they kind of walk off together.
1:14:29
Speaker 6: Which you expect very much.
1:14:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, as far as the mathematics of it, Steve Kerr,
1:14:33
Speaker 3: he's born in sixty five, so now right now, he's
1:14:36
Speaker 3: sixty one years Bill young.
1:14:38
Speaker 6: Emphasize young. So he does stay for two years, he'll
1:14:41
Speaker 6: be eight sixty three, Bill in this generation as a
1:14:44
Speaker 6: young man.
1:14:44
Speaker 5: Still.
1:14:45
Speaker 1: Okay, another list? Or was that your only list?
1:14:49
Speaker 6: Another list? Bill? And I knew this purposely because you
1:14:52
Speaker 6: and James Peterson. There's annual list. Bill, I'm so happy
1:14:55
Speaker 6: you're here today for a lot of reasons. Or here
1:14:57
Speaker 6: we go quickly and listen to it right now, you
1:14:59
Speaker 6: drop fifteen, you're in traffic, think about us here in
1:15:03
Speaker 6: the studio. Fun and yell out the name and beat
1:15:06
Speaker 6: the horn. Fun nicknames are former or present NBA players.
1:15:11
Speaker 6: Fun nicknames names. Yes, some of the nicknames are self annoyed.
1:15:17
Speaker 6: I'm my dad. So here we go, Bill, You and
1:15:19
Speaker 6: James Peterson. First nickname Big Ticket?
1:15:22
Speaker 2: Who is it?
1:15:23
Speaker 5: Uh?
1:15:24
Speaker 3: The big Ticket is yeah, agreed? The Worm that's Denis
1:15:32
Speaker 3: Rodman z bo Zach Randolph correct, The BOSSI and Beast
1:15:39
Speaker 3: Nurkics correct, Yusif Nurkic who calls him that? Everybody who's
1:15:45
Speaker 3: self annoyed? And also I call him the Bosian Beasts
1:15:47
Speaker 3: of course.
1:15:48
Speaker 5: Yes.
1:15:49
Speaker 6: The Kangaroo Kid.
1:15:51
Speaker 1: Kangaroo Kid.
1:15:52
Speaker 6: You know, Bill, You're famous, You're famous, He's famous.
1:15:55
Speaker 3: Yesteryear, Yesteryear, Kangaroo Kid, make it jump, he can sky
1:16:00
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame.
1:16:02
Speaker 6: Billy Billy Cunningham. Really yeah, Kangaroo Kid. Uncle Jeff.
1:16:08
Speaker 1: That's Jeff Uh, he's Tony Jones. This guy, the guy from.
1:16:11
Speaker 6: Georgetown, Jeff Green.
1:16:13
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, Flesh, Ben Gordon, Dwayne Wade, Dryane Wade,
1:16:20
Speaker 3: the Great Wall.
1:16:23
Speaker 1: Yeah man correct?
1:16:26
Speaker 5: I love it?
1:16:26
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't you love? I love Don't you love basketball?
1:16:30
Speaker 5: All right?
1:16:31
Speaker 6: The Bald Mamba Alex Crusoe. Alex Caruso gave him that.
1:16:37
Speaker 1: Nickname Bill again.
1:16:38
Speaker 6: You again. I love your attitude.
1:16:40
Speaker 1: I love it. I like Alex Carusoe player, self anointed. Bill.
1:16:45
Speaker 3: People have nicknames, you know, or the white mamba, no
1:16:50
Speaker 3: bo bald mamba.
1:16:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, isn't it somebody a white mamba too?
1:16:54
Speaker 5: Yeah?
1:16:57
Speaker 2: What is it?
1:16:59
Speaker 6: See Bill?
1:17:01
Speaker 1: I mean she was friendly with Kobe, but hey whatever.
1:17:05
Speaker 6: The chef chef chef because he's always cooking chef curry.
1:17:13
Speaker 6: That's exactly right. Birdman Uh Anderson, Chris Anderson, the Dream,
1:17:19
Speaker 6: Elijah won Okay, Bill, up your confidence here, Human Highlight Film,
1:17:25
Speaker 6: Dominic Wilkins. See Bill, I'm trying to get your confidence
1:17:27
Speaker 6: up a little shaky before the Joker Yokovic, d book
1:17:34
Speaker 6: d Booker, Booker, that's right, Devin Booker, the Suns, the Custodian,
1:17:40
Speaker 6: Brian Cardinal, that's right, Brian Cardinal, sweet lout Lou Williams.
1:17:46
Speaker 6: You got that. But the Mini Van George and they
1:17:50
Speaker 6: all right, Iceman George Gervin. Bill again, I'm trying your
1:17:54
Speaker 6: confidence a little shaky right now, fus you a little shaky,
1:17:58
Speaker 6: That's right. I'm trying to help you. The glove Gary Payton,
1:18:02
Speaker 6: Ice Tray Ice Tray, Yeah, Ice, Tray, Trey Young, Trey
1:18:07
Speaker 6: Young half that again, self annoying. You guys have an
1:18:14
Speaker 6: attitude about this, because this is self annoyed, this is
1:18:18
Speaker 6: social media, this is twenty twenty six. Quickly, here we go,
1:18:23
Speaker 6: half man, half amazing. You know, you know, you guys
1:18:27
Speaker 6: know Vince Carter vinsanity, half man, half amazed, self annoyed.
1:18:33
Speaker 6: Uncle Dree that's Kyrie Irving.
1:18:36
Speaker 3: You got Jimmy Buckets, Jimmy Butler correct, Wodiny of the Hardwood,
1:18:44
Speaker 3: Bob Cousy correct, Doctor Dunkenstein, Darryl Griffith. Okay, just a
1:18:49
Speaker 3: few more. Truck Leonard Truck Robinson correct. I like your confidence.
1:18:54
Speaker 3: I gave you his first name, even Leonard. Most people
1:18:57
Speaker 3: just called him truck red velvet in the NBA right now,
1:19:03
Speaker 3: I don't know.
1:19:04
Speaker 1: Oh is that Kevin Herder?
1:19:06
Speaker 6: Correct? Kevin't heard it? See James Peterson is an historian.
1:19:10
Speaker 1: I don't know how I know the Seriously, Kevin Herder
1:19:13
Speaker 1: doesn't even deserve it.
1:19:14
Speaker 6: Nick love Bill, I love your attitude, your game based
1:19:18
Speaker 6: on playing right now, get the UTESA on the phone,
1:19:22
Speaker 6: football right now. You should be the linebacker today. I'm
1:19:25
Speaker 6: ready to go right the slim Reeper Reaper. Oh, it's
1:19:30
Speaker 6: you know, we just talked about him.
1:19:34
Speaker 3: Vin Duran is the last one, the last one, all right,
1:19:38
Speaker 3: mad Dog Mark Madson, that's exactly right.
1:19:41
Speaker 1: Former u v U Wolverine head coach and former Utah Flash.
1:19:46
Speaker 6: That's exactly right. Thust Bill ros head coach of the
1:19:49
Speaker 6: cal Bears. That's right, Cal Berkeley, thust Bill Rally. That
1:19:53
Speaker 6: is my list of today. I'm so happy that you
1:19:56
Speaker 6: have this attitude towards self annointed players given their own nickname. Amen, cousin, Amen,
1:20:05
Speaker 6: Gordon Chiason, Gordy, you can't make this stuff up. Oh
1:20:08
Speaker 6: you can, you can. I know, I know exactly what
1:20:11
Speaker 6: you're saying. This stuff you cannot make up. I agree
1:20:14
Speaker 6: you shun make this stuff up. He is my good
1:20:18
Speaker 6: friend and the great Gordon Chiasa. Always a thrill to
1:20:21
Speaker 6: have him on board to list today. Wow, Thanks big day,
1:20:25
Speaker 6: peace out, peace out to you, Gordy. We're gonna talk
1:20:27
Speaker 6: some college football coming up on the other side. Get
1:20:30
Speaker 6: you back on the text line as well. Eight seven
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Speaker 6: seven three five three zero seven hundred halfway home here?
1:20:36
Speaker 3: Where does time go? Time doesn't exist here? Or I
1:20:42
Speaker 3: don't know on the west side. Shat O'Connell show. Bill
1:20:46
Speaker 3: Riley sitting in on the ESPN seven hundred and ninety
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Speaker 4: half am.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much to Gordy jays If coming in
1:21:08
Speaker 3: for an hour today. Always good to catch up with
1:21:11
Speaker 3: gord one of my really, really really good friends. I
1:21:14
Speaker 3: love conversing with him on air, but even more so
1:21:17
Speaker 3: off air, so it's good to have him in today
1:21:19
Speaker 3: here on ESPN seven hundred. We're halfway home a little
1:21:22
Speaker 3: past a halfway mark on this Thursday. Filling in for
1:21:24
Speaker 3: Sean today. Ryan Leaf is going to join us at
1:21:26
Speaker 3: the top of the hour. College football insider. I am
1:21:29
Speaker 3: a big Ryan Leaf fan. He's doing a ton of
1:21:32
Speaker 3: Pac twelve football this year. But we'll get his thoughts
1:21:35
Speaker 3: on the Big twelve and other stuff as he will
1:21:37
Speaker 3: join us. And then we're gonna kind of look at
1:21:39
Speaker 3: one of Utah's early season opponents that it's hard to
1:21:44
Speaker 3: get a read on where they are right now. Just
1:21:46
Speaker 3: because Quin Grovey's gonna join us. He's the Arkansas color analyst.
1:21:50
Speaker 3: He was a former razorback football player have been part
1:21:52
Speaker 3: of the broadcast team for a while. I just I
1:21:54
Speaker 3: don't know what to make of this Arkansas team. It's
1:21:57
Speaker 3: an entirely new team from a year ago. Players roster
1:22:02
Speaker 3: was depleted because of the firing and guys moving on,
1:22:06
Speaker 3: as is the case of the portal, and got a
1:22:08
Speaker 3: new coaching staff and kind of a new outlook there.
1:22:10
Speaker 3: But how good are they going to be in the
1:22:11
Speaker 3: second game of the season. So we're gonna talk to
1:22:14
Speaker 3: Quinn Grove about that. I'll talk to you guys about
1:22:16
Speaker 3: anything on your mind college football related. I've asked a
1:22:19
Speaker 3: couple of questions of you today and this doesn't I've
1:22:23
Speaker 3: asked it specific to Utah because that's the team that
1:22:25
Speaker 3: I cover most and where the home of the Utes
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Speaker 3: here on ESPN seven hundred ninety two one a FM.
1:22:30
Speaker 3: But you know, if you're a BYU fan and you
1:22:34
Speaker 3: want to work this into the Cougars or any other
1:22:36
Speaker 3: fan team you're a fan of. Outside of the quarterback position,
1:22:39
Speaker 3: which we always know has the most impact on on
1:22:42
Speaker 3: field success, which position group are you expecting to have
1:22:46
Speaker 3: the biggest impact on on field success this year for Utah?
1:22:49
Speaker 3: Is it wide receivers, Is it offensive line, is it corners,
1:22:53
Speaker 3: is it linebackers, is it running backs?
1:22:54
Speaker 1: Whatever?
1:22:55
Speaker 3: Quarterback is off to the side, So what's the other
1:22:57
Speaker 3: position group for you? Seven three five three zero seven
1:23:02
Speaker 3: hundred is your text number to get in and on
1:23:04
Speaker 3: board today here on the Sean O'Connell show, I said,
1:23:07
Speaker 3: for me, I think for Utah to have great on
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Speaker 3: field success this year, outside of quarterback, I think their
1:23:13
Speaker 3: defensive line needs to step forward and be impactful. Can
1:23:18
Speaker 3: they rush the quarterback with four the way they did
1:23:20
Speaker 3: a year ago when they had John Henry Daily on
1:23:22
Speaker 3: one side and Logan Fano on the other. How much
1:23:25
Speaker 3: better is that defensive tend They spent a lot of
1:23:27
Speaker 3: equity in the transfer portal shoring up the defensive tackle position.
1:23:33
Speaker 3: How much better is that going to be this year
1:23:35
Speaker 3: for Utah? They brought in three big transfers. They bring
1:23:39
Speaker 3: some guys back like Kafusi and sept Balona Poopoo. So
1:23:43
Speaker 3: how much better are they going to be up front?
1:23:44
Speaker 3: Because I think they need to. If Utah is going
1:23:46
Speaker 3: to be good defensively, I think that line has to
1:23:49
Speaker 3: be good. I know a lot of people have told
1:23:50
Speaker 3: me already on the text line today that the offensive line.
1:23:54
Speaker 3: But I've said this, I think the offensive line is
1:23:57
Speaker 3: going to be solid this year.
1:23:59
Speaker 5: I do.
1:23:59
Speaker 3: I don't know what their ceiling is, but I think
1:24:02
Speaker 3: they're a high floor group with Jordan Gross coaching that group.
1:24:06
Speaker 3: Obviously they were such a high, high ceiling group last
1:24:10
Speaker 3: year with all the guys that are playing in the
1:24:11
Speaker 3: NFL or on NFL rosters now. So I'm going D line,
1:24:15
Speaker 3: but I'd be curious what you guys think. Which is
1:24:17
Speaker 3: the position group that will impact Utah's on field success
1:24:21
Speaker 3: the most this year outside of the quarterback position? Eight
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Speaker 3: seven seven three five three zero seven hundred and I
1:24:29
Speaker 3: also threw out some camp questions I had. Who's going
1:24:31
Speaker 3: to play cornerback opposite of Scooby Davis, Who's going to
1:24:34
Speaker 3: be the nickel or slot corner? How quickly does the
1:24:37
Speaker 3: offensive line come together? And another big question for me,
1:24:40
Speaker 3: it's not so much about individuals. I'm just very curious
1:24:43
Speaker 3: to see what Kevin mcgivens past game looks like. Kyle
1:24:47
Speaker 3: Whittingham used to call it the throw game, what's the
1:24:50
Speaker 3: pass game look like this year? And some of that
1:24:53
Speaker 3: might be predicated on how quickly the offensive line comes together,
1:24:56
Speaker 3: because if you can give Devin time to go down field.
1:25:00
Speaker 3: It's Kevin mcgiven like to take more downfield shots maybe
1:25:03
Speaker 3: than a guy like Jason Beck did last year.
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Speaker 1: So let me know.
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Speaker 3: Text lines open to you eight seven seven three five
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Speaker 3: three zero seven hundred that will get you in and
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Speaker 3: on board today. Here on the Shaan O'Connell Show, Bill
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Speaker 3: Riley filling in and share some college football thoughts you
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Speaker 1: Football thoughts that you might have today.
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Speaker 3: seven hundred and ninety two point one FM. Text message,
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Speaker 3: Hey Bill, this is Kraft. Hey Craft defensive line is
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Speaker 3: my answer. Good to hear your voice, Bill, Well, thank
1:25:48
Speaker 3: you Craft. It's good to be here. Text message in
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Speaker 3: from Ryan, He says, Hey Bill, this is Ryan. I
1:25:56
Speaker 3: called in yesterday and talked to Sean and told in
1:25:59
Speaker 3: my prediction was the Utes would go undefeated. I didn't
1:26:03
Speaker 3: even know they took telephone calls anymore. Maybe I'll open
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Speaker 3: the phone lines up a text lines open to you
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Speaker 3: today eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
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Speaker 3: I still feel strongly they will, especially if they stay
1:26:17
Speaker 3: healthy and everything goes well for the team this year.
1:26:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.
1:26:21
Speaker 3: I think the defense has got to be the especially
1:26:23
Speaker 3: the linebackers. They've got to be really good for them
1:26:26
Speaker 3: to be great's that's a bold prediction, certainly, Ryan, as
1:26:30
Speaker 3: you guys know that have listened to me for a
1:26:32
Speaker 3: long time, I never ever predict anybody to go undefeated
1:26:36
Speaker 3: because it's too improbable. Doesn't even though Utah has done
1:26:39
Speaker 3: it twice in the last twenty years. It just doesn't
1:26:42
Speaker 3: happen very often. But I've said here on these airwaves,
1:26:45
Speaker 3: I've said on my podcast, I think the ceiling for
1:26:47
Speaker 3: Utah this year could be an eleven in one season.
1:26:50
Speaker 3: If again everything comes together and clicks, and if they
1:26:54
Speaker 3: stay healthy. Those are some big gifts because football season
1:26:58
Speaker 3: is tough. I did say this earlier. I think the
1:27:02
Speaker 3: low end for Utah is probably a nine to three season.
1:27:06
Speaker 3: Somebody said seven and five. I think that would be
1:27:08
Speaker 3: pretty low to be very fair for Utah. I just
1:27:13
Speaker 3: think with the schedule they've got and the talent they've got,
1:27:16
Speaker 3: I think this team is better than a it would
1:27:19
Speaker 3: be better than a seven and five team.
1:27:20
Speaker 5: It would be.
1:27:23
Speaker 3: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. Chimney text,
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Speaker 3: I love to hear from you today. I don't get
1:27:27
Speaker 3: to talk to you as often as I used to.
1:27:30
Speaker 3: Gage Martinez says, position group, How about both lines of scrimmage?
1:27:37
Speaker 3: That's not one position group gauge, But yeah, the lines
1:27:41
Speaker 3: are going to be important. If you had to pick one, though, gauge,
1:27:44
Speaker 3: which way would you go? I asked for a position group,
1:27:48
Speaker 3: not a not two position groups, if that makes sense.
1:27:54
Speaker 3: Charles Sorensen, Hey, Charles, Charles says, Hey, Bill, I think
1:27:58
Speaker 3: the O line and D line should be in included
1:28:00
Speaker 3: with the quarterback. If any of these three is bad,
1:28:03
Speaker 3: the team and the season will follow.
1:28:06
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't. That wasn't my question though Today.
1:28:08
Speaker 3: My question isn't if they're bad, Which position group outside
1:28:14
Speaker 3: of quarterback will impact Utah's on field success the most?
1:28:21
Speaker 5: Yeah?
1:28:22
Speaker 3: All position groups impact success. That's why football is the
1:28:28
Speaker 3: ultimate team sport.
1:28:30
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:28:31
Speaker 1: Can you cover up a bad position group?
1:28:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that I'm not asking about being bad, I'm
1:28:37
Speaker 3: asking outside of quarterback, which position group will have the
1:28:41
Speaker 3: greatest impact on on field success for Utah. So if
1:28:48
Speaker 3: you want to say offensive line, that's fine, or defensive
1:28:52
Speaker 3: line that's fine. Charles goes on to say, beyond those three,
1:28:59
Speaker 3: I think defense backfield is crucial. I have zero concerns
1:29:02
Speaker 3: about the offense. Well, that's good. I have questions, I
1:29:10
Speaker 3: don't necessarily have concerns. If that makes sense. Eight seven
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Speaker 3: seven three five three zero seven hundred gets you in
1:29:21
Speaker 3: and on board today. Lincoln from Saratoga Springs, what's up?
1:29:26
Speaker 3: Lincoln says, I think running backs will have the biggest
1:29:30
Speaker 3: impact on controlling the clock and protecting leads. Not a
1:29:33
Speaker 3: bad call. It's a good running back room, too. Wyshawn Parker,
1:29:38
Speaker 3: probably your your I don't know if bell cow back
1:29:41
Speaker 3: is the right way to go anymore in today's just
1:29:43
Speaker 3: football in general, to be the bell cow back always
1:29:47
Speaker 3: implied that you're probably gonna get twenty five or thirty carries,
1:29:50
Speaker 3: maybe thirty five carries a game. I think was Shan
1:29:54
Speaker 3: is definitively your running back one. Though then I'm gonna
1:29:59
Speaker 3: be really interested to see how Kevin mcgiven employs the
1:30:07
Speaker 3: other running backs, meaning Daniel Bray, Steven Chavez Soto, Nate Johnson.
1:30:18
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would say way Shan running back one.
1:30:22
Speaker 3: If I had to say today, I would probably say
1:30:26
Speaker 3: Bray based on experience in the program and hit a
1:30:31
Speaker 3: good spring, and then maybe Chavez.
1:30:34
Speaker 1: Soto after that.
1:30:39
Speaker 3: Zach Nolan, Hey, Zach, I think it's the linebacker group
1:30:43
Speaker 3: they have to be better against the run. You're not
1:30:45
Speaker 3: wrong about that, but that kind of goes hand in
1:30:48
Speaker 3: hand with those defensive tackles because the tackles occupy the blockers,
1:30:57
Speaker 3: and then the blockers once they're occupied, that allows those
1:31:01
Speaker 3: linebackers to flow and make the plays. If those tackles
1:31:06
Speaker 3: don't hold up those offensive linemen, those guards and tackles
1:31:09
Speaker 3: and centers and those guys get to the second level,
1:31:13
Speaker 3: that makes it tougher on the linebackers. Jackson chiming in
1:31:19
Speaker 3: today from Kysville. Jackson says the secondary is going to
1:31:23
Speaker 3: be much better tackling group this year. Less big plays
1:31:27
Speaker 3: given up. It'll be noticeable, is that, Jackson? Benny, I
1:31:32
Speaker 3: don't think so. It'll be interesting to see how the
1:31:35
Speaker 3: secondary is though, because again, as far as corners go,
1:31:42
Speaker 3: Scooby Davis is really your most proven corner.
1:31:46
Speaker 1: And that's okay.
1:31:48
Speaker 3: They're bringing in some guys that had experience at the
1:31:51
Speaker 3: group of five level guys like Elijah Reed, guys like
1:31:54
Speaker 3: James Chinault. Those are probably your two most obvious choices
1:31:57
Speaker 3: to play opposite on the outside. Rock Caldwell's second year
1:32:01
Speaker 3: in the program. JC Hart second year in that program.
1:32:03
Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see. That's one of the
1:32:07
Speaker 3: things I'm going to watch early on. Martin says option
1:32:15
Speaker 3: to receivers tight end need to be key weapons. No,
1:32:18
Speaker 3: you're not wrong about that, Martin absolutely. Morgan Scalley has
1:32:24
Speaker 3: said one of the deepest position rooms he's had in
1:32:29
Speaker 3: a long time, that wide receiver room. Tight end's going
1:32:31
Speaker 3: to be interesting too, because you've got just a variety
1:32:34
Speaker 3: of different kinds of tight ends that are in the program. Now,
1:32:38
Speaker 3: you don't have a Dalton Kincaid or a Brant Keathy
1:32:43
Speaker 3: per se. You've got the big rhino tight ends, the
1:32:47
Speaker 3: big dudes, the blockers that are kind of converted from
1:32:50
Speaker 3: other positions. Then you've got kind of the smaller guys
1:32:54
Speaker 3: that aren't necessarily traditional tight ends, like a Hunter Andrews.
1:33:00
Speaker 3: Be interesting to see how they work.
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Speaker 3: more details on that when he returns next week. But
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Speaker 3: that's the latest on that. If you're into such things. UEFA,
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Speaker 3: up kind of the soccer cycle of the World Cup,
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Speaker 3: YUEFA has said it's gonna boycott all FIFA competitions, including
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Speaker 3: the World Cup, after an emergency meeting on Thursday resolved
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Speaker 3: to unequivocally read jack FIVA presidents Jiohnny Infantino's plan to
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Speaker 3: raise twenty billion dollars of outside investment with a share
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Speaker 3: sell off to private equity. In other words, Infantino wants
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Speaker 3: to basically sell off to private investors parts of the
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Speaker 3: World Cup.
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Speaker 1: Now, I'm not sure why you need to do this.
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Speaker 1: The World Cup is very, very very lucrative.
1:37:25
Speaker 3: Generally, when you do that, you are in need of
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Speaker 3: an influx quickly of cash. And I don't know that
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Speaker 3: FIFA and or the World Cup are, but he just
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Speaker 3: sees this as a means to make even more money. Well,
1:37:37
Speaker 3: apparently Germany, France, England, Spain, all of the all of
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Speaker 3: the major UEFA, that's the European nations I think there's
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Speaker 3: fifty five all told have basically said we're not going
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Speaker 3: to be part of this and we will not compete
1:37:54
Speaker 3: Men's or Women's World Cups. Now you might say, well,
1:37:57
Speaker 3: that's what's that matter. World Cup's four years Awaymen's World
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Speaker 3: Cup is next year, and if you don't have the
1:38:03
Speaker 3: major Europeans as part of it, the tournament doesn't mean
1:38:07
Speaker 3: what it is. Infantino apparently revealed earlier this week his
1:38:13
Speaker 3: plans to sell a steak in FIFA forward enterprises that
1:38:19
Speaker 3: would raise huge funds in exchange for influence over future
1:38:23
Speaker 3: World Cups, including broadcasting and commercial deals. He probably should
1:38:30
Speaker 3: have read the temperature in the room before he proposed this,
1:38:34
Speaker 3: because if you don't have Germany, France, England, Spain, you
1:38:40
Speaker 3: don't have men's or Women's World Cups.
1:38:41
Speaker 1: You just simply don't. So we'll see what happens with
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Speaker 1: this story moving forward.
1:38:45
Speaker 3: It kind of has the same feel that the Super
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Speaker 3: League proposal had a few years ago, and then that
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Speaker 3: thing fizzled out pretty quickly. All Right, a few more
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Speaker 3: to hear your win and lost predictions for each week
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Speaker 3: for the Utes. I'm not going to do that today.
1:39:10
Speaker 3: CAD might be another show. Maybe I'll do that on
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Speaker 3: my podcast. What I will say to you, though, is
1:39:16
Speaker 3: I've said I think the Utah season ranges somewhere between
1:39:20
Speaker 3: nine and three and eleven and one. Again, assuming they
1:39:25
Speaker 3: don't suffer catastrophic injuries, I think the team is well
1:39:29
Speaker 3: positioned to be a very good team and compete for
1:39:33
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve title this year. I feel the same
1:39:37
Speaker 3: way about BYU. I think that's probably BYU's range as well.
1:39:40
Speaker 3: For the regular season. BYU has a much more difficult
1:39:46
Speaker 3: non conference game this year in that they play Notre
1:39:51
Speaker 3: Dame in Provo, and Notre Dame might be the best
1:39:53
Speaker 3: team in college football. Talk about that coming up with
1:39:56
Speaker 3: Ryan Leaf, but I've kind of put that because I
1:40:01
Speaker 3: just I really believe in what Morgan Scalley's got going
1:40:03
Speaker 3: this year. I believe in the talent and the program.
1:40:06
Speaker 3: I believe in the staff that he's hired. I believe
1:40:09
Speaker 3: in the direction of the program. It wouldn't surprise me
1:40:13
Speaker 3: at all if Utah is eight and oh heading into
1:40:15
Speaker 3: the BYU game. November the seventh against BYU. I've said
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Speaker 3: this too, I bout my podcast on these airwaves two K.
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Speaker 3: I think the winner of the Utah BYU game is
1:40:25
Speaker 3: likely to play Texas Tech in the Big twelve championship game.
1:40:29
Speaker 3: Texas Tech schedule is very easy. They're a very good
1:40:33
Speaker 3: team with a very easy pat. They don't have to
1:40:36
Speaker 3: play Utah or BYU in the regular season. Most all,
1:40:41
Speaker 3: if not all, of their tough games are in Lubbock.
1:40:45
Speaker 3: So anyway, stay tuned to the podcast The Crimson Corner,
1:40:51
Speaker 3: or if I fill in again before the season begins,
1:40:53
Speaker 3: and maybe we'll do a week by week eight seven
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Speaker 3: seven three five three zero seven hundred.
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Speaker 1: Jr.
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Speaker 3: Says Hey, Bill, Once Bronco exposes the defensive line in
1:41:08
Speaker 3: the Utah State beats Utah, you'll understand that it's a
1:41:11
Speaker 3: defensive line that needs help. Well, I've said I think
1:41:16
Speaker 3: the defensive line is the position group that will have
1:41:20
Speaker 3: the biggest influence on Utah's potential success this year outside
1:41:23
Speaker 3: of quarterback. I would be surprised if Utah State would
1:41:28
Speaker 3: be a team that would expose it. But we'll see
1:41:29
Speaker 3: what happens. Bronco mended Hall very good football coach. Text
1:41:36
Speaker 3: message in from Ricky. Ricky says linebackers need to be
1:41:41
Speaker 3: good on the running game. Yes they do, Trey Reynolds,
1:41:45
Speaker 3: Jonathan Hall, Cyrus Polu. I think they've got a good
1:41:49
Speaker 3: group of linebackers this year Utah.
1:41:51
Speaker 5: I do.
1:41:55
Speaker 3: Connor and Syrahugh says defensive line will be the most
1:41:58
Speaker 3: important position group when it comes to success on the field.
1:42:02
Speaker 3: Since you already picked that, I'll go with the cornerback
1:42:04
Speaker 3: room reed or Chinault's step up on the outside with
1:42:07
Speaker 3: Caldwell at the nickel. How they play will be a
1:42:10
Speaker 3: good indicator on how the defense will be. Not a
1:42:15
Speaker 3: bad prediction there, Connor, not a bad prediction at all.
1:42:18
Speaker 3: I think the safeties are going to be really good, though.
1:42:20
Speaker 3: I love Jackson Benny. Jackson Benny, forgive me for saying this.
1:42:27
Speaker 3: I said this with Derek Odom on this week's edition
1:42:30
Speaker 3: of Under the Headset. It's a podcast series I'm doing
1:42:33
Speaker 3: with all the Utah stell a lot of the new
1:42:35
Speaker 3: Utah staff this year. The Derek Odom episode dropped on Tuesday.
1:42:43
Speaker 3: Jackson Benny gives me Eric Weddell vibes, and I don't
1:42:47
Speaker 3: mean that he's going to have a fourteen year career
1:42:50
Speaker 3: in the NFL and that he's going to be in
1:42:51
Speaker 3: the Ring of Honor as my friend Eric is. But
1:42:54
Speaker 3: what I love about Jackson is his versatility in the secondary.
1:43:00
Speaker 3: I don't think that there's a position in the secondary
1:43:02
Speaker 3: that Jackson Benny couldn't play. And that was how Eric
1:43:06
Speaker 3: Weddle was too. Jackson could play the slot if they
1:43:09
Speaker 3: asked him to.
1:43:10
Speaker 5: He has.
1:43:11
Speaker 3: He can play outside at corner, he can play both
1:43:13
Speaker 3: safety positions. He is a crazy athlete, good lineage athletically
1:43:22
Speaker 3: that Jackson Benny comes from. But I really like that
1:43:26
Speaker 3: Rabbit Evans is back and healthy. You've got Nate Ritchie
1:43:30
Speaker 3: in that secondary. You got another Nate, Nate Tillman in
1:43:32
Speaker 3: that secondary at safety. I think Utah's going to be
1:43:36
Speaker 3: I think they're going to be really good at safety,
1:43:37
Speaker 3: and I think they've got a chance to be really
1:43:39
Speaker 3: good at corner.
1:43:39
Speaker 1: Two Connor, thanks for your text message. Appreciate it.
1:43:43
Speaker 3: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. We'll
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Speaker 3: get you in and on board today here on the
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Speaker 3: Shot O'Connell show, Bill Riley filling in two hours down
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Speaker 3: by the way.
1:43:52
Speaker 1: Where does time go? Where does time go?
1:43:58
Speaker 5: It?
1:43:58
Speaker 3: Talk some college football here in the final hour of
1:44:00
Speaker 3: the program today, in about a half hour, we're gonna
1:44:04
Speaker 3: check in on the Arkansas Razorbacks, Utah's second opponent SEC
1:44:08
Speaker 3: team coming to Rice Eycle Stadium. Quinn Grovey. Their color
1:44:14
Speaker 3: analysts will join us. But coming up next, old friend
1:44:19
Speaker 3: of the program, I'm happy to say I bought Ryan
1:44:23
Speaker 3: stock Lee, Ryan Leaf Stock or Ryan stock Leaf early
1:44:30
Speaker 3: and he continues to have a great broadcasting career. We'll
1:44:33
Speaker 3: talk to Ryan coming up about the Utes, about the Cougars,
1:44:36
Speaker 3: about the Big Twelve. He's doing some Pac twelve football
1:44:39
Speaker 3: this year too. All that stuff on the table, the
1:44:41
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1:45:09
Speaker 1: No Sean O'Connell today.
1:45:10
Speaker 3: Shawn's out on assignments, so they'd asked me to come
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Speaker 3: sit in in my old time slot, and I'm always
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Speaker 3: back and fill in occasionally for Sean O'Connell. My day
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Speaker 3: job allows me to do it as well. I thank
1:45:28
Speaker 3: my boss is up at the U for letting me
1:45:30
Speaker 3: come down and fill in from time to time too.
1:45:32
Speaker 3: Five weeks from today, Utah opens up it's season against
1:45:35
Speaker 3: the Idaho Vandals and then the Arkansas Razorbacks, and then
1:45:40
Speaker 3: the Utah State Aggies come in before the conference season begins.
1:45:44
Speaker 3: Year one of Morgan Scalley's tenure as head coach. Also
1:45:48
Speaker 3: going to be year one of Ryan Leaf's ten year
1:45:51
Speaker 3: is lead college football analysts on USA Network for the
1:45:55
Speaker 3: PAC twelve, going back in time because his alma mater
1:45:58
Speaker 3: is still in the PAC twelve. It's quite the same
1:46:00
Speaker 3: PAC twelve Ryan played in, or the same PAC twelve
1:46:03
Speaker 3: that Utah played in. But it's still a good football
1:46:06
Speaker 3: conference nonetheless, And good to have my friend Ryan Leif
1:46:09
Speaker 3: join us here in my old time slid.
1:46:10
Speaker 1: How are you, Ryan?
1:46:12
Speaker 5: What's up?
1:46:13
Speaker 2: Bell?
1:46:13
Speaker 5: How are we doing?
1:46:14
Speaker 1: I'm doing great.
1:46:15
Speaker 5: How's your summer been a it's been hot, It's been long.
1:46:20
Speaker 5: You know, I shouldn't say it's been long. They're getting
1:46:23
Speaker 5: they get shorter and shorter every year. With my kids
1:46:25
Speaker 5: getting ready for school again. We just got back from
1:46:27
Speaker 5: Minnesota from a little work trip, but I brought the
1:46:30
Speaker 5: family along. It was like on this lake resort, so
1:46:34
Speaker 5: they had a lot of fun and so did we.
1:46:36
Speaker 5: So but I can see the wheels turning and football
1:46:40
Speaker 5: just around the bend.
1:46:41
Speaker 1: How excited are you about your new gig with USA Network?
1:46:45
Speaker 5: Oh? Man, I'm through the roof. I don't know if
1:46:48
Speaker 5: I could be more grateful for the opportunity. You know,
1:46:51
Speaker 5: they've invested a lot in me, as they've invested a
1:46:53
Speaker 5: lot in the Pac twelve conference, And Teresa Gould has
1:46:57
Speaker 5: done a tremendous job in those first two years to
1:47:00
Speaker 5: the conference rebuild. She knew exactly what she was trying
1:47:03
Speaker 5: to accomplish and build this new brand. And I feel
1:47:06
Speaker 5: like to your point, they put together an incredibly competitive conference,
1:47:09
Speaker 5: one that is probably gonna sit as the number one
1:47:12
Speaker 5: conference outside the power for that people would look at.
1:47:15
Speaker 5: And if that's the case, they'll have probably the best
1:47:19
Speaker 5: chance year and year out of getting a college football
1:47:21
Speaker 5: playoff bid, which listen Washington State and Oregon State. They'll
1:47:25
Speaker 5: have a better chance of going to the College FOOTBA
1:47:27
Speaker 5: Playoff than they ever did in the old PAC twelve,
1:47:29
Speaker 5: and so they'll be sitting in a pretty pretty pre spot.
1:47:32
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you.
1:47:33
Speaker 3: I think it's a terrific college football conference with those
1:47:36
Speaker 3: two schools you mentioned that were the holdovers from the
1:47:39
Speaker 3: old PAC twelve, and then you sprinkle in some of
1:47:42
Speaker 3: the best of the others, some of the best from
1:47:44
Speaker 3: the Mount West Conference that you know, Utah State, and
1:47:47
Speaker 3: some of the others that have sprinkled in there as well.
1:47:49
Speaker 3: The financial gain isn't quite what it was in the
1:47:51
Speaker 3: old days, but maybe that comes along at some point
1:47:53
Speaker 3: in time. But you know this, Ryan, the path is
1:47:56
Speaker 3: to get to the postseason, and the passes path is
1:47:58
Speaker 3: to get to the playoff. Now, if this thing expands
1:48:01
Speaker 3: to twenty four teams, that that opportunity becomes even greater
1:48:05
Speaker 3: for the PAC twelve.
1:48:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, if you go to that many teams,
1:48:08
Speaker 5: then you're about multiple teams possibly from the conference. But
1:48:11
Speaker 5: as it sits right now, you know that that that
1:48:14
Speaker 5: fifth conference champion is an automatic bid and and the
1:48:20
Speaker 5: PAC twelve is certainly going to be at the top
1:48:23
Speaker 5: of that list in terms of what the American Conference
1:48:25
Speaker 5: brings to the champion to the table or the Mountain
1:48:29
Speaker 5: West the MAC. You know, that situation presents a real
1:48:35
Speaker 5: opportunity for the teams that are participating. We saw the
1:48:38
Speaker 5: boys the States from two years ago make it. Last year,
1:48:41
Speaker 5: you saw James Madison get in. You know, this is
1:48:45
Speaker 5: a real opportunity for the teams that's that got left
1:48:47
Speaker 5: behind and stay and built a conference you know worth
1:48:53
Speaker 5: playing for.
1:48:54
Speaker 3: Taking your PAC twelve hat off for just a minute,
1:48:57
Speaker 3: just being a college football guy. What format do you
1:49:01
Speaker 3: like the best from a competitive nature? Do you like
1:49:04
Speaker 3: the twelve where it is? Do you like the sixteen?
1:49:06
Speaker 3: Do you like them talking about going to twenty four?
1:49:09
Speaker 3: Where does Ryan Lee fall?
1:49:12
Speaker 5: I'm fine for as many as they want to, you know,
1:49:14
Speaker 5: I mean the Creeland is going to rise to the top.
1:49:16
Speaker 5: There could be an upset here last year. This is
1:49:18
Speaker 5: a really good example of the SCS blueprints. I think
1:49:21
Speaker 5: it's I think they're sixteen teams or twenty four, I
1:49:24
Speaker 5: can't remember. It doesn't matter. But North Dakota State, but
1:49:27
Speaker 5: for me, was far and away the best team in
1:49:31
Speaker 5: all of the SCS, and Illinois State got on a
1:49:33
Speaker 5: roll and upset them in an early round and that
1:49:39
Speaker 5: was fascinating to me. They played so well during that
1:49:41
Speaker 5: stretch they got themselves to the National Championship game. And
1:49:44
Speaker 5: I mean, the FCS has been doing it right for
1:49:47
Speaker 5: decades and I don't see why that's where there's anything
1:49:50
Speaker 5: wrong with it. I'd love to see more games being
1:49:53
Speaker 5: played at the home stadiums of these teams for playoffs.
1:49:56
Speaker 5: I get where the money's at in the bowl games
1:49:58
Speaker 5: and how much corporate they're throwing around to make those
1:50:02
Speaker 5: the games, but I think the teams to get to
1:50:04
Speaker 5: buy should then also get a home playoff game. They
1:50:08
Speaker 5: would make for such great matchups. I mean the idea
1:50:10
Speaker 5: of Alabama going to Oklahoma last year that was so cool,
1:50:15
Speaker 5: that was so fun to see play out, you know,
1:50:18
Speaker 5: and then Alabama having to go to play Indiana in
1:50:20
Speaker 5: the Rose Bul. I mean, make the Rose Bull more important,
1:50:23
Speaker 5: you know, than than a quarterfinal game or something like that.
1:50:26
Speaker 5: In my opinion, whether I'm up for anything more, college
1:50:31
Speaker 5: football is better for me. I just wish the format
1:50:33
Speaker 5: was a little different.
1:50:34
Speaker 3: I agree, And had it been twenty four last year,
1:50:36
Speaker 3: Utah would have hosted Michigan at Rice Cycle Stadium before
1:50:39
Speaker 3: going to play. I think it would have been either
1:50:41
Speaker 3: Indiana Ohio State in the second round. So I think
1:50:44
Speaker 3: Utah fans would have loved that. They'd really love it
1:50:46
Speaker 3: now if Michigan and Utah played in the postseason.
1:50:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, it would be a very fascinating When I was
1:50:51
Speaker 5: speaking at the Las Vegas bull a year ago when
1:50:55
Speaker 5: all of that transpired and Morgan took over, and so
1:50:59
Speaker 5: I got a chance to kind of see it all
1:51:01
Speaker 5: play out in real time, and yeah, that would be
1:51:04
Speaker 5: a heck of a matchup to see play out.
1:51:06
Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf's with us.
1:51:07
Speaker 3: We're done college football lead college football analysts for the
1:51:10
Speaker 3: USA Network this year on Pac twelve football. And by
1:51:13
Speaker 3: the way, who's your partner gonna be? Who's the play
1:51:14
Speaker 3: by play partner?
1:51:16
Speaker 5: I don't think they've announced it yet, so I don't
1:51:18
Speaker 5: want to step on anybody's toes here. They've only announced
1:51:22
Speaker 5: my participation, which I am very humbled. Boy, But we
1:51:25
Speaker 5: should we should hear something, I think in the next
1:51:28
Speaker 5: week or two. But I've worked I've worked with.
1:51:30
Speaker 2: Them in the past.
1:51:31
Speaker 5: Love him. You're gonna have a lot of knowledge and
1:51:34
Speaker 5: a lot of fun. We're gonna We're gonna be a
1:51:36
Speaker 5: lot of fun. Together.
1:51:36
Speaker 3: Okay, that'll be great. We'll look for that announcement coming
1:51:39
Speaker 3: up really soon. You mentioned being down at the Vegas
1:51:41
Speaker 3: Bowl last year.
1:51:42
Speaker 1: It was an odd time. There's no doubt about it.
1:51:43
Speaker 5: It was.
1:51:44
Speaker 1: It was odd.
1:51:44
Speaker 3: But that's nine months in our rear window now. And
1:51:48
Speaker 3: Morgan Scalley's had his head his hand on this program
1:51:51
Speaker 3: now as you watched it transpire. And obviously you've known
1:51:55
Speaker 3: Morgan having covered the PAC twelve for years when he
1:51:57
Speaker 3: was defensive coordinator. Here give me your ten thousand foot
1:52:01
Speaker 3: view on him now making this his program. He's been
1:52:04
Speaker 3: in the program his entire life, Ryan, now he's running it.
1:52:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely a different perspective because you take over
1:52:13
Speaker 5: management of so many different things. I talked to so
1:52:15
Speaker 5: many coordinators that have become head coaches, and you know,
1:52:19
Speaker 5: the idea of giving up play calling duties is always
1:52:22
Speaker 5: the bigger question and all that do I remove that
1:52:25
Speaker 5: part of the equation, which is what got me the
1:52:27
Speaker 5: job in the first place, to start micro managing everything
1:52:30
Speaker 5: that goes on. I mean, I don't know if he
1:52:31
Speaker 5: could have had a better teacher in Kyle Whittingham over
1:52:34
Speaker 5: this period of time when he was you know, head
1:52:37
Speaker 5: coach in waiting. So I don't foresee any sort of
1:52:43
Speaker 5: you know, missteps that come out of nowhere or things
1:52:45
Speaker 5: that surprise Morgan Scalley. I think that he's going to
1:52:48
Speaker 5: be incredibly prepared and and he'll tell you this like
1:52:52
Speaker 5: anybody will. It's all going to depend on whether we
1:52:54
Speaker 5: win and whether the Utah wins and loses. You know,
1:52:57
Speaker 5: that's that's the the fining factor in all this. You
1:53:00
Speaker 5: can be a pariah one minute, and if you win,
1:53:05
Speaker 5: you are beloved or vice versa. You know, it's just
1:53:08
Speaker 5: it's just how it goes. And so that's the way
1:53:11
Speaker 5: of the world of college football. I think he'll be
1:53:13
Speaker 5: I think he'll do very well. I've had a chance
1:53:15
Speaker 5: to talk to him in the past. I spoke to
1:53:17
Speaker 5: the team a few years back, spent some time with
1:53:19
Speaker 5: him personally. You know, the kids, the kids really seem to,
1:53:25
Speaker 5: you know, listen and kind of galvanized behind him. And
1:53:30
Speaker 5: then also I just think he's got an incredible football mind.
1:53:34
Speaker 5: Now you have to go out and win the football game,
1:53:37
Speaker 5: and if you do that, he's going to be very
1:53:38
Speaker 5: very well liked. In Salt Lake City.
1:53:40
Speaker 3: There's a real interesting new vibe and energy around it.
1:53:44
Speaker 3: There was nothing wrong with what Kyle Whittingham did for
1:53:47
Speaker 3: twenty one years, but it's a little bit different now.
1:53:49
Speaker 3: It's kind of he's put his imprint on it. He's
1:53:53
Speaker 3: made a real effort too. There's a lot of talk
1:53:55
Speaker 3: among the players and stuff that it used to be
1:53:57
Speaker 3: the offense and the defense, and I think Scout at
1:54:00
Speaker 3: least made a real effort to blend both those. It's
1:54:02
Speaker 3: one team, not an offensive room and a defensive room.
1:54:06
Speaker 3: How important is that in kind of today's football? Ryan
1:54:10
Speaker 3: that you know, it's not two different sides of the ball.
1:54:13
Speaker 3: It's one team that plays offensive plays defense.
1:54:17
Speaker 5: No, this is to win championships and to be a
1:54:20
Speaker 5: complete team, all three phases right, special teams, defense, and
1:54:23
Speaker 5: offense have to be clicking together. And you know everybody
1:54:27
Speaker 5: has a different way they're going to go about it
1:54:30
Speaker 5: if they're the man in charge. I always thought about
1:54:32
Speaker 5: it when I was an offensive coordinator. If I ever
1:54:33
Speaker 5: got a head coaching opportunity, what that would look like?
1:54:36
Speaker 5: You know, you know how much of Mike Price would
1:54:40
Speaker 5: I have invested in what I did as a head coach?
1:54:45
Speaker 5: You know what would be the hybrid of that in
1:54:47
Speaker 5: terms of offensive football and the way I went about things,
1:54:49
Speaker 5: and so I'm sure Morgan is the same way. You know,
1:54:54
Speaker 5: everybody has a certain philosophy on how things should go,
1:54:58
Speaker 5: and Kyle's philosophy worked for twenty one years, right, worked
1:55:02
Speaker 5: incredibly well. But sometimes you just need to hear a
1:55:06
Speaker 5: different voice. Sometimes you need to hear and see a
1:55:09
Speaker 5: different kind of perspective, and that's what you get. Whether
1:55:12
Speaker 5: that becomes a winning philosophy remains to be seen. You've
1:55:16
Speaker 5: got to go out and do the work and see
1:55:18
Speaker 5: how transpires afterwards. But it's, you know, rebirth newness. I mean,
1:55:23
Speaker 5: it's the cornerstone of what the NFL is built on
1:55:26
Speaker 5: every offseason.
1:55:28
Speaker 3: Ryan Leaf's our guests for a couple more minutes here
1:55:30
Speaker 3: on ESPN seven hundred. What do you make it a
1:55:32
Speaker 3: big twelve big picture? I kind of see it in tiers, Ryan,
1:55:35
Speaker 3: and I see it's kind of a Texas Tech BYU
1:55:38
Speaker 3: Utah top tier, and then maybe in Arizona, Houston, TCU
1:55:44
Speaker 3: Kansas State second tier. I'm not sure if anybody in
1:55:48
Speaker 3: the second tier can win the league, but they could
1:55:50
Speaker 3: mess it up. I think Tech's got an easy road
1:55:53
Speaker 3: with their schedule. I think the Utah BYU game, the
1:55:56
Speaker 3: Holy Wars they like to call it, sometimes might decide
1:55:59
Speaker 3: who placed Excess Tech. But that's all convert kind of
1:56:02
Speaker 3: conversing about it on paper.
1:56:04
Speaker 1: How do you kind of see it?
1:56:06
Speaker 5: I'm a little interested to see what Baylor brings to
1:56:08
Speaker 5: the table, Okay, this season, I really am. I think
1:56:12
Speaker 5: that you know, they they added a quarterback in the
1:56:14
Speaker 5: transfer portal out of Florida. I had a lot of steam.
1:56:18
Speaker 5: Never really lived up to kind of what the expectations
1:56:20
Speaker 5: were there during that fight, you know. And and Dave
1:56:23
Speaker 5: Miranda and is in a make or break year for him,
1:56:26
Speaker 5: I think. And so, uh there's a lot going on
1:56:29
Speaker 5: there in Waco, and uh, I'm fascinated to see what
1:56:32
Speaker 5: that that team looks like. But I'm with you, you know,
1:56:35
Speaker 5: Texa Tech has spent all the money, right they they
1:56:37
Speaker 5: put all the things out there. They don't have the
1:56:38
Speaker 5: quarterback maybe that they thought they were going to have,
1:56:41
Speaker 5: but they've added the pieces. They got to feel what
1:56:44
Speaker 5: it was like to get to the playoff last year
1:56:46
Speaker 5: and get embarrassed. Uh so they're wearing that a little bit.
1:56:49
Speaker 5: The Uyu's been really special. Uh Utah kept up with
1:56:53
Speaker 5: everybody a year ago. So yeah, I'm with you. I
1:56:57
Speaker 5: think there's probably those tiers. You know, don't ever don't
1:56:59
Speaker 5: have pushed anything that's to the side. When you talk
1:57:01
Speaker 5: about Kansas State, especially with Colin Quinn, yep, Colin Kline
1:57:05
Speaker 5: returning as the next head coach there in Manhattan, that's
1:57:09
Speaker 5: that's a that's a fascinating one. Washington State heads there
1:57:12
Speaker 5: in week two, so I'll get a good kind of
1:57:17
Speaker 5: look at it because watching film and getting preparing for
1:57:19
Speaker 5: the for the conference season to kick off there, I
1:57:22
Speaker 5: think I have Washington State and President State to kick
1:57:24
Speaker 5: off that that season in conference play, So you know,
1:57:29
Speaker 5: there's there's a lot of ups and that I think
1:57:31
Speaker 5: a lot of teams are looking directly at at the
1:57:34
Speaker 5: what's going on in Lubbock and UH and UH and
1:57:38
Speaker 5: in Salt Lake City. Wouldn't would be great to see
1:57:40
Speaker 5: those two teams when you get to the end of it,
1:57:42
Speaker 5: battling for for that conference championship. Yeah.
1:57:45
Speaker 3: Just to your point on Baylor, I'm interested to see
1:57:48
Speaker 3: what they do too. I agree on the make or
1:57:49
Speaker 3: break thing. They open with Auburn, but they close with
1:57:53
Speaker 3: b y U, Texas Tech, and Houston and two of
1:57:56
Speaker 3: those three on the road that is. I don't know
1:57:58
Speaker 3: that anybody of the Big twelve has a tougher close
1:58:00
Speaker 3: and what Baylor does.
1:58:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh, listen, these conferences have been built to
1:58:06
Speaker 5: be very, very difficult now, right. I mean there's been
1:58:09
Speaker 5: a lot of realignment, Like you have not built the
1:58:12
Speaker 5: conference outside the power or inside the power for that's
1:58:15
Speaker 5: not going to be on a week to week basis
1:58:17
Speaker 5: brutal and that's the way it should be.
1:58:19
Speaker 1: How's how's the How's the Pac twelve?
1:58:21
Speaker 5: Look?
1:58:22
Speaker 1: Who who's who's the team to beat? On paper?
1:58:24
Speaker 3: Is it boises somebody else? Who's who's the team to
1:58:27
Speaker 3: beat in your mind heading into the year in the
1:58:28
Speaker 3: Big two? In the Pac twelve?
1:58:30
Speaker 5: Well, I think you know, as you found out when uh,
1:58:34
Speaker 5: college football is the way it is, you have a
1:58:36
Speaker 5: different team every single year. When you see a team
1:58:38
Speaker 5: return with a lot of the same guys and that's
1:58:40
Speaker 5: the Boise State in this conference, do you have to
1:58:43
Speaker 5: probably you know, throw your chips in when when it
1:58:46
Speaker 5: comes to that team. So I would I would argue
1:58:48
Speaker 5: right now, Boise State is probably the team to beat
1:58:51
Speaker 5: in the conference. A lot of newness everywhere else. You
1:58:55
Speaker 5: have new head coaching in Oregon State, Washington State, Colorado State.
1:58:59
Speaker 5: Very interesting there in Fort Collins with Jim Mora now
1:59:02
Speaker 5: as the head football coach. New uh you know, new
1:59:06
Speaker 5: head coaches, new philosophies, new ideas, all of those things, uh,
1:59:11
Speaker 5: you know, coming to fruition. So I like Boise State
1:59:13
Speaker 5: right now. Listen, they start with Oregon and Memphis. Those
1:59:19
Speaker 5: are maybe two of the you know, Oregon maybe one
1:59:21
Speaker 5: of the top teams in the country. Memphis might be
1:59:23
Speaker 5: one of the top teams outside of the Power Forward Conference.
1:59:27
Speaker 5: They hit the road watching Boise State. In the situation
1:59:30
Speaker 5: we have that game. By the way, we have Memphis
1:59:32
Speaker 5: at Boise in week two. That could be for a
1:59:35
Speaker 5: lot of marvels, you know, to see a team that
1:59:38
Speaker 5: was supposed to be at the top. Now listen, they
1:59:40
Speaker 5: could lose all their non conference games and still win
1:59:42
Speaker 5: the conference. And that's just that's the way the things go.
1:59:45
Speaker 5: But I will tell you a lot about a team
1:59:48
Speaker 5: if after two weeks they're zero and two against two
1:59:51
Speaker 5: of the better teams in the country.
1:59:53
Speaker 3: In the big picture, for many years, the SEC was
1:59:57
Speaker 3: seen as the gold standard for college football and right
1:59:59
Speaker 3: to so it feels like we've had a shift now
2:00:03
Speaker 3: to the Big Ten, and the SEC is not toe
2:00:07
Speaker 3: to toe with them anymore. Still a very good league,
2:00:09
Speaker 3: but it feels like the Big Ten is overtaken and
2:00:11
Speaker 3: maybe separated just a little bit.
2:00:13
Speaker 1: Do you see that too, and why do you think
2:00:15
Speaker 1: that's happened?
2:00:17
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if I've seen that. I mean,
2:00:18
Speaker 5: I think the conferences are just as you know, competitive
2:00:23
Speaker 5: as anything. I think that the Big Ten has found
2:00:25
Speaker 5: a way to win a championship the last three years,
2:00:27
Speaker 5: right that's you know, for the longest time, the SEC
2:00:30
Speaker 5: was winning championships year in Europe. So people wanted to
2:00:32
Speaker 5: say the SEC. Doesn't mean the SEC is down. I
2:00:35
Speaker 5: still think they are. You know, suit and nuts, probably
2:00:37
Speaker 5: the best conference in all college football just because of
2:00:40
Speaker 5: the talent and when the draft happens, you see the
2:00:43
Speaker 5: collective that has set to the NFL ranks each and
2:00:47
Speaker 5: every year. But you know, it's silly to hear people
2:00:50
Speaker 5: just go back and forth about this conference is better
2:00:52
Speaker 5: than that conference. When the teams play each other on
2:00:54
Speaker 5: a Saturday, regardless of what conference they're in, we'll see
2:00:57
Speaker 5: who comes away the winner. I mean, the national championship
2:00:59
Speaker 5: year goes between an ACC team which the ACC was
2:01:03
Speaker 5: absolutely horrid a year ago, versus a team of the
2:01:06
Speaker 5: Big Ten where they had multiple good teams. So, you know,
2:01:09
Speaker 5: it's just it's just a matter of how it plays
2:01:11
Speaker 5: out when you play well. The SEC is gonna have
2:01:14
Speaker 5: a lot of great teams. They beat each other up
2:01:16
Speaker 5: every weekend. So does the Big Ten. You know, nothing's
2:01:19
Speaker 5: going to change. I don't like the narrative that like
2:01:21
Speaker 5: this conference is better than that conference. All for the
2:01:24
Speaker 5: power conferences now in place are incredibly competitive from weekend
2:01:28
Speaker 5: week out. You're gonna be playing difficult, tough football games
2:01:31
Speaker 5: to get you to that next level.
2:01:33
Speaker 1: Is there a team for you? I don't know that
2:01:35
Speaker 1: there's a definitive best team.
2:01:36
Speaker 3: There seems to be a handful of four or five,
2:01:38
Speaker 3: maybe six going into the season.
2:01:41
Speaker 1: Is there a team you like as the best on paper?
2:01:45
Speaker 5: You know, I usually trend towards the best quarterback you know,
2:01:48
Speaker 5: and I think it's Jeohnttier. I really like Oklahoma. You know,
2:01:52
Speaker 5: they found their way a little bit last year. He
2:01:54
Speaker 5: got injured, you know, a couple of weeks before the
2:01:59
Speaker 5: Texas game, tried to come back too quick, never was
2:02:01
Speaker 5: the same player. I think Oklahoma has a lot on
2:02:04
Speaker 5: their shoulders. I think Bret Dunnables needs to win and
2:02:08
Speaker 5: so I expect a lot of big things from him.
2:02:10
Speaker 5: You know that matchup in the Red River rivalry against
2:02:13
Speaker 5: Texas with arch Manny, I think he's going to play
2:02:15
Speaker 5: for a lot. I alse like Oregon Dante Moore coming back.
2:02:18
Speaker 5: You know, they've been on the precipice over the last
2:02:21
Speaker 5: few years, and I expect them to be right there
2:02:25
Speaker 5: once again. So if you ask me there, he got
2:02:27
Speaker 5: an SCC team and a Big ten team there when
2:02:30
Speaker 5: when it's all said and done. But look to quarterback
2:02:33
Speaker 5: play this year as the motivating factor like it normally is,
2:02:36
Speaker 5: but even more impressive. I think there's gonna be a
2:02:39
Speaker 5: quarterback this year that is just far and away above
2:02:42
Speaker 5: the talent pool that they kind of willed their team
2:02:45
Speaker 5: to a championship this year.
2:02:47
Speaker 3: There's a little kugan that John Mattier in Oklahoma pick
2:02:50
Speaker 3: there too from.
2:02:51
Speaker 1: His days at Wazoo.
2:02:54
Speaker 5: Definitely.
2:02:54
Speaker 6: I mean I thought he was the.
2:02:55
Speaker 5: Best football player in the country two years ago. I
2:02:58
Speaker 5: thought he should have been the heids Witch winner, not
2:03:01
Speaker 5: Travis Hunter, and I stick by that. I thought I
2:03:05
Speaker 5: was the best player in all of college football. He
2:03:06
Speaker 5: just of course wasn't being seen a lot at Washington State,
2:03:11
Speaker 5: you know, had an opportunity to jump to Oklahoma, and
2:03:13
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people have these expectations of them,
2:03:15
Speaker 5: and then the injury really you know, you know, kind
2:03:17
Speaker 5: of put them down the ladder, and I don't think
2:03:19
Speaker 5: a lot of people have a lot of expectations this year,
2:03:20
Speaker 5: which is pretty good. You can kind of go into
2:03:22
Speaker 5: it and you know you're gonna find out pretty quickly
2:03:26
Speaker 5: what a great quarterback quarterback he has running the same
2:03:28
Speaker 5: type of offense he did two years ago at Washington
2:03:30
Speaker 5: State with their offensive coordinators. So yeah, excited for that
2:03:33
Speaker 5: team to see what they can do there in Norman.
2:03:36
Speaker 3: All right, last thing for you, Ryan, You're a thinker.
2:03:37
Speaker 3: You're a smart guy. You you you look at things
2:03:40
Speaker 3: big picture and from a very interesting lens.
2:03:43
Speaker 5: Uh.
2:03:44
Speaker 3: Greg Sank is actually out here in Park City this
2:03:46
Speaker 3: week and doing some stuff out this direction. It's probably
2:03:49
Speaker 3: the closest thing we have to a I don't know
2:03:52
Speaker 3: face of college football from a administrative standpoint, but if
2:03:56
Speaker 3: I were to make you czar of college football, if
2:03:59
Speaker 3: you were the guy that was overseeing things, how do
2:04:03
Speaker 3: we make this thing work. How do we make this
2:04:05
Speaker 3: financial thing work so it benefits the game, universities and
2:04:10
Speaker 3: the players, because again, we don't have a lot of
2:04:14
Speaker 3: good guardrails, We don't have a lot of good oversight
2:04:17
Speaker 3: to this. There's some good thoughts, but if you were
2:04:20
Speaker 3: in charge right now, how do we make this thing
2:04:23
Speaker 3: work for the good of the of the sport so
2:04:25
Speaker 3: that this thing thrives moving forward?
2:04:29
Speaker 5: Well, I would institute a national collegiate football League with
2:04:33
Speaker 5: eighteen to twenty two teams in each conference, and you know,
2:04:38
Speaker 5: aside from the mp Double A, and then I would
2:04:40
Speaker 5: put in to play restrictions around nil. I wouldn't. I
2:04:45
Speaker 5: would make it nil. I would make it name, image
2:04:48
Speaker 5: and likeness, not pay to play. And that's the difference
2:04:52
Speaker 5: for me. You know, it's the most money in, it
2:04:55
Speaker 5: gets the most players. I want you to be on
2:04:57
Speaker 5: a roster. I want you to be compensated if you
2:05:00
Speaker 5: if ticket sales are through the roof, for your jersey's
2:05:02
Speaker 5: being sold in the bookstore a ton, if you're doing
2:05:06
Speaker 5: local commercials or national commercials come along that you're being
2:05:10
Speaker 5: paid for your name, image and likeness. That's what NIL is.
2:05:14
Speaker 5: I hate hearing people say nil these days because it's
2:05:16
Speaker 5: not nil, and then the transfer rule would have to change.
2:05:20
Speaker 5: You know, I would want to see a restriction on
2:05:23
Speaker 5: maybe a one time transfer deal. That's why I fix it,
2:05:28
Speaker 5: you know. Right now, it's just listen. I love college football.
2:05:32
Speaker 5: I'll never not love college football. So when the games
2:05:34
Speaker 5: are on, I will watch it. I'll be honest. Though,
2:05:37
Speaker 5: the college football Playoffs really didn't do much for me
2:05:40
Speaker 5: in the last two years. It wasn't something that I
2:05:43
Speaker 5: paid a lot of attention to. And maybe that would
2:05:47
Speaker 5: have had to do with the fact that I was
2:05:48
Speaker 5: calling games on the CW for the PAX twelve, which
2:05:50
Speaker 5: meant I was only calling Washington State and Oregon State games.
2:05:53
Speaker 5: That broad That broadens my view a little bit. This year,
2:05:57
Speaker 5: and of course, seeing a paxwall team get into college
2:05:59
Speaker 5: Football Playoff, I want to be up to speed with
2:06:01
Speaker 5: everything else is going on. But you know, the product
2:06:03
Speaker 5: for me hasn't been great. I'm excited for that to
2:06:06
Speaker 5: get back to being a great product this year. For
2:06:09
Speaker 5: whatever reason, I think some of the shifting landscapes and
2:06:13
Speaker 5: climates with some of the coaches I think have meant
2:06:16
Speaker 5: for some really great rivalries and I'm excited to see
2:06:18
Speaker 5: what this season holds.
2:06:20
Speaker 1: I am too.
2:06:20
Speaker 3: I'm excited around here because it's kind of a new
2:06:23
Speaker 3: era of football being ushered in with Morgan Scali at
2:06:25
Speaker 3: the U. I think the Big twelve is going to
2:06:27
Speaker 3: be really good and really competitive, and I'm also anxious
2:06:30
Speaker 3: to see what they end up doing with the expansion
2:06:32
Speaker 3: of the playoff, whether it goes to sixteen. It doesn't
2:06:35
Speaker 3: feel like sixteen, Ryan, it feels like everybody but the
2:06:38
Speaker 3: SEC and ESPN are behind the twenty fourteen model. I'm
2:06:42
Speaker 3: like you, I like good college football. I like more
2:06:45
Speaker 3: games is always a good thing, and inclusion isn't a
2:06:47
Speaker 3: bad thing. I just I wouldn't mind seeing that sixteen
2:06:50
Speaker 3: team step first to take it there. But if we're
2:06:53
Speaker 3: eventually going to get to twenty four, I think that's
2:06:55
Speaker 3: probably where we're going to go.
2:06:57
Speaker 5: And also I think if I was doing what you
2:06:59
Speaker 5: talked about, I would make you know, if you're going
2:07:02
Speaker 5: to play twelve games, then make them all in conference, right,
2:07:07
Speaker 5: you know, And if you're going to play a non
2:07:08
Speaker 5: conference game, make it a power for non conference opponent.
2:07:12
Speaker 5: You're going to have to start the season earlier and
2:07:14
Speaker 5: have less games. If you're going to go into a
2:07:17
Speaker 5: playoff with twenty four teams. In my opinion, maybe one
2:07:21
Speaker 5: less game. Maybe're playing eleven games a year and not
2:07:25
Speaker 5: making them play where you play a non conference opponent
2:07:29
Speaker 5: that's from the SCS level or something like that. You
2:07:31
Speaker 5: have to play, you know, games, every week's got to
2:07:36
Speaker 5: be a game, but playing and simple. It just can't
2:07:38
Speaker 5: be a walk through opportunity. Those games are just pointless
2:07:42
Speaker 5: to have. I understand the lift up and financially aid
2:07:47
Speaker 5: the lower divisions, and if you don't do that, it
2:07:50
Speaker 5: could be the collapse of a lot of those lower divisions.
2:07:52
Speaker 5: But I think that that is a necessity to keep
2:07:57
Speaker 5: the right teams playing for the right things, for the
2:08:00
Speaker 5: right championships down the line.
2:08:02
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for doing this. It's great to catch up
2:08:04
Speaker 3: and it had been too long. Congratulations on the USA
2:08:06
Speaker 3: Network gig. We'll look forward to see who your play
2:08:08
Speaker 3: by play guy is soon and maybe just maybe you're
2:08:11
Speaker 3: out this way doing a few Utah State Aggie games
2:08:13
Speaker 3: up in Logan.
2:08:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be the hope. I know that I
2:08:17
Speaker 5: won't be there this year. I think unless there is
2:08:20
Speaker 5: the final final game of the Flex game, I don't
2:08:24
Speaker 5: know if they have a home game for their flex
2:08:25
Speaker 5: game or not. But otherwise I won't be there this year,
2:08:28
Speaker 5: but I can't wait for the opportunity to get there.
2:08:32
Speaker 5: I love myself from Utah, that's for sure.
2:08:34
Speaker 3: Hey, Ryan, thanks so much for doing it. Take care
2:08:37
Speaker 3: all right, Bill, have a good day you too. Ryan
2:08:39
Speaker 3: leaf with us here. I'm a set of Connell Show.
2:08:40
Speaker 3: Bill Riley filling in today for Sean. He'll be the
2:08:43
Speaker 3: lead analyst of the USA Network as the PAC twelve
2:08:48
Speaker 3: is back kind of sort of. I mean, it really
2:08:50
Speaker 3: hasn't been there the last couple of years, but the
2:08:52
Speaker 3: league is back and certainly a better footing that it's
2:08:56
Speaker 3: been in recent years. Boise State, Colorado State, Presno State,
2:09:00
Speaker 3: Oregon State, Washington State, San Diego State, Texas State, Utah State.
2:09:05
Speaker 1: All every school in that league is a state.
2:09:09
Speaker 3: Interesting and it will probably expand a little bit more
2:09:13
Speaker 3: in the coming years.
2:09:14
Speaker 1: But those are the schools in the PAC twelve this year.
2:09:18
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna grab a brick, you go back
2:09:20
Speaker 3: and talk a little more college football. Utah's big name
2:09:24
Speaker 3: non conference opponent this year is the Arkansas Razorbacks.
2:09:28
Speaker 1: Where will Arkansas be this year?
2:09:31
Speaker 3: It's a rebuilding year for the Razorbacks, coming off what
2:09:34
Speaker 3: was a really tough year last year for Arkansas.
2:09:37
Speaker 1: They've got a new head coach and uh maybe maybe
2:09:42
Speaker 1: some new renewed hope. But how quickly will that hope come.
2:09:46
Speaker 1: We'll talk to their color analysts. Quin Grovey will join us.
2:09:49
Speaker 1: Coming up on the other side here on Utah's number
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Speaker 1: one sports talk and home of the Utes, ESPN seven
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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety two to one FM.
2:09:59
Speaker 4: You're tuned to us Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
2:10:02
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2:10:15
Speaker 1: All right, final half hour. Here Bill Riley filling.
2:10:18
Speaker 3: In today for Sean O'Connell. We have football five weeks
2:10:23
Speaker 3: from today, that's right, five weeks from today, thirty five days.
2:10:28
Speaker 3: The Utes open up against the Idaho Vandals. That's Thursday night,
2:10:31
Speaker 3: September the third, and then after that schedule gets a
2:10:36
Speaker 3: little bit better. An SEC team come into Rice Cycle
2:10:39
Speaker 3: Stadium on Saturday, September the twelfth, but an SEC team
2:10:42
Speaker 3: maybe in a little bit of a rebuild mode with
2:10:44
Speaker 3: a new head coach and a pretty new roster as well.
2:10:47
Speaker 3: Thought we could the insight on the Arkansas Razorbacks with
2:10:50
Speaker 3: a guy that's been part of their broadcast team and
2:10:52
Speaker 3: played for the Hawks back in the day. Quick Grove
2:10:55
Speaker 3: with us here joining us from I'm guessing somewhere in
2:10:58
Speaker 3: northwest Arkansas, Quinn, how are you, Bill?
2:11:01
Speaker 2: I'm doing good. I'm in Faydville, Arkansas, and getting ready
2:11:05
Speaker 2: to go play some golf after I've finished with you.
2:11:08
Speaker 1: Well, that's good.
2:11:09
Speaker 3: That's what you should be doing on a Friday, because
2:11:11
Speaker 3: once football season begins, it's harder to get out there
2:11:13
Speaker 3: and play a little golf for guys like you and
2:11:15
Speaker 3: II to travel on the weekends to do these football games.
2:11:18
Speaker 3: So what do the Utah fans and me in particular,
2:11:21
Speaker 3: who's going to be prepping to call this game? What
2:11:24
Speaker 3: do we need to know about this team? Last year
2:11:26
Speaker 3: was tough two and ten, You lost your last ten games,
2:11:29
Speaker 3: had some fourth quarter leads get away from you. So
2:11:32
Speaker 3: what's new? What's what needs to be known in coming
2:11:36
Speaker 3: out of Faydville.
2:11:38
Speaker 2: Well, I think what people really need to understand is
2:11:40
Speaker 2: that we're not as far away as people think. I mean,
2:11:43
Speaker 2: when you talk about losing your last ten games, I
2:11:45
Speaker 2: mean that's.
2:11:45
Speaker 5: Very difficult to do.
2:11:47
Speaker 2: But when you talk about having old myth on the rope,
2:11:49
Speaker 2: you should have beat them. I mean you had them down.
2:11:51
Speaker 2: I mean you lose forty one to thirty five to them,
2:11:54
Speaker 2: You lose the Memphis, you get beat by Notre.
2:11:58
Speaker 5: Dame pretty soundly.
2:11:59
Speaker 2: But then you come back and you played Tennessee tight.
2:12:01
Speaker 2: So when you look at all the games that Arkansas
2:12:04
Speaker 2: played last year, they were right there. It was just
2:12:06
Speaker 2: really you know, attention to detail, a lot of focus.
2:12:10
Speaker 2: You always expected something bad to happen. And that's what
2:12:13
Speaker 2: I love about coach Silverfield. Coach Silverfield is a guy
2:12:16
Speaker 2: that says, we're going to control everything that we can control.
2:12:19
Speaker 2: We're gonna be the best in the country at controlling that.
2:12:22
Speaker 2: And so that comes down to making sure you taken
2:12:23
Speaker 2: care of the football the way he runs his practice
2:12:26
Speaker 2: with offense, I mean there's a lot of protection with
2:12:29
Speaker 2: the football, making sure you understand where to go with
2:12:31
Speaker 2: the football when you're the quarterbacks, making sure you hold
2:12:34
Speaker 2: it on, to making sure you catch it. And so
2:12:36
Speaker 2: they're really focusing in on the protection aspect of it
2:12:40
Speaker 2: and then just really making sure you find a way
2:12:42
Speaker 2: to create turnovers, give yourself a chance. And we experienced ourselves.
2:12:47
Speaker 2: We lost the coach Civerfield in Memphis. Over there at
2:12:50
Speaker 2: the Liberty Bowl. All they did was just hung around,
2:12:53
Speaker 2: hung around, hung around, waited for us to make a mistake,
2:12:56
Speaker 2: and finally found a way to win a football game.
2:12:58
Speaker 2: So I think what you're gonna find this Arkansas football team.
2:13:01
Speaker 2: While we may not be as explosive offensively under like
2:13:05
Speaker 2: a Bobby Petrino, we will be very good offensively. And
2:13:09
Speaker 2: I just think what you're gonna find is that we're
2:13:10
Speaker 2: gonna be fundamentally sound, and we're gonna be a team
2:13:13
Speaker 2: that's not.
2:13:13
Speaker 5: Going to beat itself.
2:13:15
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a team that's going to try to
2:13:17
Speaker 2: stick around to the fourth quarter and try to force.
2:13:18
Speaker 5: You to make a mistake.
2:13:19
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned Ryan Silverfield. He was the head coach
2:13:22
Speaker 3: at Memphis, win fifty and twenty five, twenty nine and
2:13:26
Speaker 3: nine over his last couple of seasons, a couple of
2:13:28
Speaker 3: Bowl wins over power forward teams. So he's got the
2:13:31
Speaker 3: good resume and he may have auditioned for that job.
2:13:33
Speaker 3: And that win over Arkansas that was at the Liberty
2:13:35
Speaker 3: Bowl as well, So what's he done? You know, there
2:13:39
Speaker 3: was a coaching James here, but Morgan Scalley had been
2:13:41
Speaker 3: on he played here, he'd been on staff here, He'd
2:13:43
Speaker 3: been around the program for twenty five years. It was
2:13:46
Speaker 3: an easy shift and changing of the guard when Kyle
2:13:49
Speaker 3: Whittingham decided to step aside and then eventually go to Michigan.
2:13:53
Speaker 3: What Silverfield had to do down there in Faddville.
2:13:57
Speaker 2: Well, he's had to just really re energize this program.
2:14:00
Speaker 2: And if you look at the higher I mean, I
2:14:02
Speaker 2: think a lot of people were expecting a much bigger name,
2:14:05
Speaker 2: but we got some really good football coach and this
2:14:08
Speaker 2: is the football coach that understands all parameters of the program.
2:14:13
Speaker 2: What I love about Coach Superfield he understands how to
2:14:15
Speaker 2: engage with the donors. He's done a fantastic job of
2:14:18
Speaker 2: just lacking into our donors and really getting people to
2:14:21
Speaker 2: really support his program at a high level. He's brought
2:14:24
Speaker 2: in a great staff of coaches, guys that have been around.
2:14:28
Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about a guy like Ron Roberts,
2:14:31
Speaker 2: he is like as the young kids will say, he's
2:14:33
Speaker 2: an OG when he comes down to being a defensiuppordinator.
2:14:37
Speaker 2: He's one of those guys that has been around that
2:14:39
Speaker 2: understands how to get defenses moving in the right direction,
2:14:43
Speaker 2: get a great job at Florida. Tim Cramsey is offensive
2:14:46
Speaker 2: coordinator from Memphis.
2:14:47
Speaker 5: Came over.
2:14:49
Speaker 2: He's brought in a nice coaching staff. But the thing
2:14:52
Speaker 2: about it is he's just put parameters in place. He said,
2:14:56
Speaker 2: you know what, we're going to be the best at
2:14:57
Speaker 2: what we can be the best at, which is control
2:14:59
Speaker 2: of what we can. We can control how we line up,
2:15:01
Speaker 2: we can control our effort, we can control all that.
2:15:04
Speaker 2: So I think he's set in the right mindset. Now,
2:15:06
Speaker 2: you still got some quality players here, don't get me wrong.
2:15:09
Speaker 2: Now we've got we've got a brand new roster pretty much.
2:15:12
Speaker 2: I mean, when you talk about forty four transfers and
2:15:14
Speaker 2: almost eighty new people, I mean, that's that makes it
2:15:18
Speaker 2: very very difficult. But at the end of the day,
2:15:20
Speaker 2: Coach Silverfield is very very solid in his mindset and
2:15:23
Speaker 2: his thinking. And uh, I mean, you know, he's coached
2:15:26
Speaker 2: in the NFL, he's coaching college, he's coaching high school.
2:15:30
Speaker 2: He understands how to communicate, and Uh, to me, that
2:15:34
Speaker 2: makes a difference. I mean, I'll just give you a
2:15:36
Speaker 2: prime example. We're at a donor event. His first week here,
2:15:39
Speaker 2: a bunch of donors big money. Got to have that
2:15:41
Speaker 2: big money, but when his players walked up, he was
2:15:44
Speaker 2: locked in and then he immediately went back to the dollars.
2:15:47
Speaker 2: And so I love the aspect of it. He gets
2:15:49
Speaker 2: all components of what it takes to build a program,
2:15:52
Speaker 2: and he's doing the right things. He's uh, he's given
2:15:55
Speaker 2: our fan base a lot of hope right now.
2:15:57
Speaker 3: Arkansas color analysts and caster and former player Quinn Grovey
2:16:02
Speaker 3: with us here on the Seat O'Connell show with Bill
2:16:05
Speaker 3: Riley filling in today. So replacing a lot of faces,
2:16:08
Speaker 3: you got to start at the quarterback. It's the most
2:16:10
Speaker 3: important position on the field. As you know, Quinn, Taylor
2:16:14
Speaker 3: Green's gone. He had a great year last year, part
2:16:16
Speaker 3: of that great offense. Mike Washington, the tailback's also gone.
2:16:19
Speaker 3: But tell me who you expect or is there a
2:16:22
Speaker 3: leader or is there a defined guy already at quarterback?
2:16:26
Speaker 2: You know that's a million dollar question, you know. I
2:16:28
Speaker 2: know kJ Jackson. kJ got a chance to play last
2:16:31
Speaker 2: year and he did well when Taylor Green was not
2:16:34
Speaker 2: in the football game. So he understands the University of Arkansas.
2:16:38
Speaker 2: He understands you know, where to go, eat, where to park,
2:16:41
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, and so he gets he
2:16:44
Speaker 2: doesn't have to learn all that. But then you got
2:16:46
Speaker 2: a guy like Aj Hill. He comes there from Memphis
2:16:49
Speaker 2: transferring with coach Soomerfield. He understands the offense and so
2:16:52
Speaker 2: he's got to understand some other players as well and
2:16:54
Speaker 2: other things at the University of Arkansas. At the end
2:16:57
Speaker 2: of the day, Coach Suomfield said, they're going to battle
2:16:59
Speaker 2: it out. And I've always said, being a quarterback at
2:17:01
Speaker 2: Arkansas myself, the team is going to select the quarterback
2:17:05
Speaker 2: by the way they perform. I mean, they're gonna move
2:17:07
Speaker 2: down the field when a certain guy walks into the huddle,
2:17:10
Speaker 2: guys respond differently. That's gonna be the difference in my opinion.
2:17:14
Speaker 2: Both these guys are extremely smart. They understand pre snap,
2:17:17
Speaker 2: they understand post snap, so they'll be very good there.
2:17:20
Speaker 2: They're both very very athletic. I'm not sure exactly who's
2:17:24
Speaker 2: going to be the starter. I mean, Coach Silverfield and
2:17:26
Speaker 2: coach Cramsey and those guys are keeping it close to
2:17:28
Speaker 2: the vest. I would say, basically, just based off of
2:17:31
Speaker 2: just a playing experience at Arkansas, I would think that
2:17:33
Speaker 2: kJ probably has the edge, but Aj is right there.
2:17:37
Speaker 2: With him, and you've got to have a quarterback if
2:17:39
Speaker 2: you want to win football games in this conference, and
2:17:42
Speaker 2: especially if you're talking about going to win a football
2:17:44
Speaker 2: game and way out in Salt Lake City at nine
2:17:48
Speaker 2: to thirty Central Standard time, which will be very, very
2:17:51
Speaker 2: difficult for us.
2:17:52
Speaker 3: You guys should like to talk about that kickoff time
2:17:54
Speaker 3: and awful lot you your ad.
2:17:56
Speaker 1: Everybody seems to be hung up. What does it matter what?
2:18:00
Speaker 1: You just gotta shoot up and play a little football.
2:18:02
Speaker 1: Utah is playing at nine.
2:18:05
Speaker 5: No, you're right about that.
2:18:08
Speaker 2: It's late. You know, I'm speaking. I'm speaking for myself now.
2:18:11
Speaker 5: I wouldn't care. I would not care.
2:18:14
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, at nine thirty,
2:18:16
Speaker 2: I'm usually in rem sleep. So that's one of the
2:18:19
Speaker 2: things where you got to you gotta get that. But no,
2:18:21
Speaker 2: they'll be excited about getting out there. That's gonna be
2:18:23
Speaker 2: a fun environment. We went out to BYU a couple
2:18:26
Speaker 2: of years ago and that was the nicest fan base
2:18:29
Speaker 2: that I've ever been associated with. I mean, they handing
2:18:31
Speaker 2: out ice cream and all that kind of stuff.
2:18:34
Speaker 5: I was like, are you kid?
2:18:35
Speaker 2: I mean, we're like from the SEC we're expecting to
2:18:38
Speaker 2: get cussed out as we walk in and they're clapping
2:18:40
Speaker 2: for So I don't expect that same environment in Salt Lake,
2:18:43
Speaker 2: but I expect it to be a fun environment. That's
2:18:46
Speaker 2: gonna be a big, big game, and that's that's one
2:18:48
Speaker 2: that a lot of people here are hanging their hats
2:18:50
Speaker 2: on to see how improove we are.
2:18:52
Speaker 5: Yeah.
2:18:52
Speaker 3: I don't know that North Alabama's gonna give you a
2:18:54
Speaker 3: good feel in week one, but Utah probably give you
2:18:57
Speaker 3: a little bit better feeling week two where you're at.
2:18:59
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's that's going to be a big time matchup.
2:19:03
Speaker 2: And I know you talked about the coaching change that
2:19:05
Speaker 2: y'all have as well, and that has the easy transition.
2:19:08
Speaker 2: But it's it's it's going to be a fun game.
2:19:11
Speaker 2: We can't wait to get out there and and experience
2:19:14
Speaker 2: that environment, and that kickoff time gives us a little
2:19:17
Speaker 2: bit more time to to go ahead and frolic and
2:19:20
Speaker 2: enjoy Saw Lake City in a little bit more.
2:19:21
Speaker 3: Well, you were talking about teeing it up and playing
2:19:23
Speaker 3: this afternoon. You can get up in the morning and
2:19:25
Speaker 3: play a little golf that morning, Quinn, and then get
2:19:28
Speaker 3: get get to the game at a little bit later.
2:19:30
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I'm looking forward to h to all of that.
2:19:34
Speaker 2: I'm looking for great restaurants, Bill, I love eating. I
2:19:37
Speaker 2: heard about a spot called it Alters. Is that a
2:19:40
Speaker 2: good Is that a good spot?
2:19:42
Speaker 3: Valters is pretty good. There's another Italian place called Mateo
2:19:45
Speaker 3: downtown and I could I could send you over to
2:19:47
Speaker 3: that place, to the Quinn. I'll take care of you
2:19:50
Speaker 3: and in the broadcast crew on a good spot to
2:19:53
Speaker 3: eat on Friday night.
2:19:54
Speaker 1: Don't you worry about that?
2:19:55
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that because we love to eat and
2:19:59
Speaker 2: we love to take people to.
2:20:00
Speaker 5: Eat with us.
2:20:00
Speaker 2: And so that's gonna be a fun trip. We got
2:20:02
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of fans coming out. We've
2:20:05
Speaker 2: got people putting together travel packages. So there's gonna be
2:20:08
Speaker 2: a huge Arkansas contingent out there. And we're excited about
2:20:12
Speaker 2: coming out there.
2:20:12
Speaker 3: Well, and Utah fans are excited too because you know,
2:20:15
Speaker 3: as you know, SEC teams don't really leave the South
2:20:19
Speaker 3: very much to play non conference games. Yeah, so to
2:20:22
Speaker 3: get to get an SEC Florida was out here a
2:20:24
Speaker 3: few years ago, Utah got them out here, and Utah
2:20:27
Speaker 3: made a trip and LSU is on the schedule in
2:20:30
Speaker 3: a few years as well. There's a home and home
2:20:31
Speaker 3: with LSU still, so I know Utah fans are excited
2:20:35
Speaker 3: about getting the Hogs out here and just getting some
2:20:37
Speaker 3: SEC teams out of Riceycle Stadium.
2:20:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's a it's a great trip for us,
2:20:42
Speaker 2: and you know, we're stepping outside of our normal footprint,
2:20:45
Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it. But playing against a team
2:20:47
Speaker 2: like Utah with the rich history that they have, I mean,
2:20:51
Speaker 2: it makes.
2:20:51
Speaker 5: A lot of sense.
2:20:52
Speaker 2: And uh, I mean that's a tough game. I mean,
2:20:54
Speaker 2: you look, you want to you want to play against
2:20:57
Speaker 2: somebody in conference. I could find twenty other people that
2:21:01
Speaker 2: I'd rather play than Utah. But at the end of
2:21:03
Speaker 2: the day, if you win that football game, that sets
2:21:05
Speaker 2: you up to put yourselves in a good position. But yeah,
2:21:09
Speaker 2: Utah is a quality opponent, and boy, we're excited about it.
2:21:13
Speaker 3: Then you get Georgia the next week back at home,
2:21:15
Speaker 3: so it's back to back. That is not easy for
2:21:17
Speaker 3: Ryan Silverfield early. All right, give me give us an
2:21:20
Speaker 3: idea of you know, obviously there's a lot of change,
2:21:23
Speaker 3: a lot of new faced quarterback battle right now. But
2:21:26
Speaker 3: if you feel is there a position, group or an
2:21:28
Speaker 3: area on this team you feel pretty good about heading
2:21:30
Speaker 3: into camp.
2:21:32
Speaker 2: Well, I feel really good about the wide receiver corps.
2:21:34
Speaker 2: A lot of we lost a lot of our wide
2:21:36
Speaker 2: receivers as well. We lost to make a Blake, we
2:21:39
Speaker 2: lost Fordon Sharp. Those are two guys that were very
2:21:42
Speaker 2: very effective for us. But now you've got to j
2:21:45
Speaker 2: Brown coming back. He's a guy that will be probably
2:21:47
Speaker 2: your tough returning receiver. Then you got Jaylen Brown who
2:21:51
Speaker 2: actually actually Jaylen Brown just left the program, but he's
2:21:54
Speaker 2: a guy that was going to be able to help
2:21:57
Speaker 2: this program in a big way. But Courtney Crutchfield is
2:21:59
Speaker 2: a guy from Bluff that can help you out. It's
2:22:02
Speaker 2: mel Cci, he's the transfer from Stanford. Uh. He's a
2:22:06
Speaker 2: guy that is big, that is strong, that can run.
2:22:10
Speaker 2: He can make a lot of plays. But I think
2:22:11
Speaker 2: the guy that's going to be probably the biggest difference
2:22:13
Speaker 2: maker in the wide receiver position is going to be
2:22:15
Speaker 2: Chris Marshall. He's a transfer from Boise State. He's a
2:22:18
Speaker 2: guy that's very athletic, and I think they'll be putting
2:22:22
Speaker 2: positions where they'll be able to catch the football. They block,
2:22:25
Speaker 2: they do a lot of different things from a wide
2:22:26
Speaker 2: receiver perspective, but they're very very effective in the spring game.
2:22:31
Speaker 2: They're very explosive and yards after the catch. So those
2:22:35
Speaker 2: guys are going to be one of the key calls.
2:22:37
Speaker 2: I think they'll help the young quarterback in kJ and
2:22:40
Speaker 2: Aj and then also and then you flip it over
2:22:43
Speaker 2: to the defensive side. I think the defensive front is
2:22:45
Speaker 2: going to be probably the strongest position group that we have.
2:22:50
Speaker 2: You lose some really quality guys in Campbell and Phillip Lee,
2:22:54
Speaker 2: Keyshawn black Stocks and all those guys, but Quincy Roase
2:22:58
Speaker 2: is the second team All SEC guy. And when you
2:23:01
Speaker 2: want to talk about somebody that can get after the quarterback,
2:23:03
Speaker 2: he can flat get after the quarterback. Last year he
2:23:06
Speaker 2: had fifteen and a half tackles for lost in eight
2:23:08
Speaker 2: and half sacks. He'll have more than that, even though
2:23:11
Speaker 2: he will be double teams in a lot of different ways.
2:23:14
Speaker 2: But the guy that transferred from Virginia, Hunter Osborne, number zero,
2:23:18
Speaker 2: a big fellow over three hundred pounds, likes to wear
2:23:21
Speaker 2: number zero. He wears number zero. He wants to look
2:23:23
Speaker 2: a little skinnier. But he's a guy that is very
2:23:27
Speaker 2: very effective. He's played a lot of snaps. I love
2:23:31
Speaker 2: what he does. I love what he did in the spring.
2:23:33
Speaker 2: The attitude that he showed with this football team. He's
2:23:37
Speaker 2: going to help this defense out an awful lot. And
2:23:41
Speaker 2: then you get into our linebackers. There's a linebacker by
2:23:44
Speaker 2: the name of Kamori House. He is very, very disruptive.
2:23:48
Speaker 2: He's a transfer as well. Reminds me a lot of
2:23:52
Speaker 2: the Honey Badger. Okay, I mean, just the guy that
2:23:55
Speaker 2: is just all over the place. He understands how to blitz,
2:23:59
Speaker 2: Like if you him on the blitz, he understands how
2:24:01
Speaker 2: to get back there and get the sack. He understands
2:24:04
Speaker 2: what his job is to do. But he can jump
2:24:07
Speaker 2: up and get in passing lanes. He can make a
2:24:09
Speaker 2: lot of play. So Kamario House is a guy that
2:24:12
Speaker 2: is electric and I think you're going to see him
2:24:14
Speaker 2: be somebody that's going to create a lot of impact
2:24:19
Speaker 2: defensively for Arkansas. But Ron Roberts is a defensive coordinator
2:24:22
Speaker 2: who understands how to put those guys in a great position,
2:24:25
Speaker 2: and I expect him to really turn those guys loose,
2:24:28
Speaker 2: moving them all over the field using them as chess pieces.
2:24:32
Speaker 3: Arkansas will come to Salt Lake City on September the twelfth.
2:24:36
Speaker 3: Quinn will be part of that trip. He'll be on
2:24:38
Speaker 3: the radio side of things with his broadcast partner Chuck Barrett,
2:24:42
Speaker 3: and they'll call that game. You played a little QB
2:24:45
Speaker 3: back in the old Southwest Conference days. You ever miss
2:24:47
Speaker 3: those days? I mean the Southwest Conference? Man, that was
2:24:50
Speaker 3: some That was some good. I'm gonna guess. I'm just
2:24:53
Speaker 3: guessing because you and I are about the same age.
2:24:55
Speaker 3: So were you an option quarterback?
2:24:58
Speaker 6: Yeah?
2:24:58
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what they's what they call us back in
2:25:01
Speaker 2: the day. Now that they call them rpo.
2:25:03
Speaker 1: You know, so it's always going to be an option
2:25:05
Speaker 1: quarterback to me.
2:25:08
Speaker 5: Yeah.
2:25:08
Speaker 2: No, we won a lot of games back then. That
2:25:10
Speaker 2: was conference back then was one of the tougher conferences.
2:25:13
Speaker 5: Yep.
2:25:13
Speaker 2: When you talk about Texas, Texas A and M and
2:25:15
Speaker 2: Baylor and all those guys, they were very, very difficult
2:25:18
Speaker 2: to deal with. I was fortunate enough to win two
2:25:20
Speaker 2: conference championships.
2:25:21
Speaker 5: Very proud.
2:25:22
Speaker 2: I'm the only quarterback in school history to win two
2:25:25
Speaker 2: conference championships. And yeah, it was tough. But I don't
2:25:29
Speaker 2: I don't miss getting hit. I really don't miss getting hit.
2:25:33
Speaker 2: I do miss the you know, the adrilline aspect of it.
2:25:36
Speaker 2: But what I will say, I've done this radio broadcast thing.
2:25:38
Speaker 2: For this, I think this will be my twenty ninth
2:25:40
Speaker 2: year and so I get I get my fulfillment from
2:25:44
Speaker 2: traveling with the team and still being a part of
2:25:47
Speaker 2: all that. I you know, once I graduated and had
2:25:50
Speaker 2: to start flying commercially and going through TSA, I thought, man,
2:25:53
Speaker 2: what in the world is going on? And now you know,
2:25:56
Speaker 2: I'm back to flying with the team and joining all that,
2:25:59
Speaker 2: and so it's a it's really a cool deal.
2:26:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, those were back in the days where quarterbacks wore
2:26:04
Speaker 3: those half shirts, those meshy half shirts, and they were
2:26:08
Speaker 3: holding that ball and flipping it outside and well you
2:26:11
Speaker 3: you you you used to play against some old Big
2:26:13
Speaker 3: twelve teams. You Baylor was in the Southwest Conference back
2:26:16
Speaker 3: in the day, and yeah, I think Texas Tech was
2:26:19
Speaker 3: probably in the Southwest Conference back in the day. And yeah,
2:26:22
Speaker 3: some of those schools that are now in the Big
2:26:24
Speaker 3: Twelve with Utah were back those were old south Who
2:26:26
Speaker 3: was your head coach back back in those days?
2:26:29
Speaker 2: So my head coach was a guy named Ken Hetfield Haffield.
2:26:33
Speaker 1: Then he went to the Air Force.
2:26:34
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, that's right, and so he, uh, he
2:26:37
Speaker 2: came back to the university of Arkansas. He was my guy,
2:26:40
Speaker 2: and man, we won some conference championships. I love playing
2:26:44
Speaker 2: for him. He was the reason that I came to, uh,
2:26:46
Speaker 2: the University of Arkansas, and uh, you know, I caught
2:26:49
Speaker 2: a lot of heat for not going to Oklahoma and
2:26:51
Speaker 2: playing for Barry Switzer's So yeah, I still catch you
2:26:55
Speaker 2: every time I go across that state line being an
2:26:57
Speaker 2: Oklahoma guy and then coming back and coming back into
2:27:00
Speaker 2: the States. So but I've made my home here. I'm
2:27:03
Speaker 2: an Arkansas and I love doing what I do here
2:27:06
Speaker 2: with the University of Arkansas, and I'm thankful for everything
2:27:09
Speaker 2: that I did because it was the best decision I
2:27:11
Speaker 2: made my life.
2:27:11
Speaker 3: I was going to say that those were the days
2:27:13
Speaker 3: when J. C. Watts and Jamel Holloway and all those
2:27:16
Speaker 3: quarterbacks were over there at Oklahoma.
2:27:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those were It was a good crew over there.
2:27:22
Speaker 2: Now that The one thing I always like to say
2:27:23
Speaker 2: is I wasn't afraid of competition. But at the end
2:27:27
Speaker 2: of the day, when you know, Jamel Holloway was a
2:27:29
Speaker 2: freshman and they had won a national championship, and so
2:27:32
Speaker 2: that's going to be very, very difficult. So I like
2:27:34
Speaker 2: to say I'm just a I had to be smart
2:27:37
Speaker 2: about where I decided to go, and the University.
2:27:39
Speaker 5: Of Arkansas was a perfect fit.
2:27:41
Speaker 1: Well, you just showed your ability to read.
2:27:43
Speaker 3: You can read a defense and you can read a
2:27:45
Speaker 3: quarterback situation, and you made the right read, Quinn.
2:27:49
Speaker 5: That's right.
2:27:50
Speaker 2: Well I did, and I'm thankful for it. And this
2:27:53
Speaker 2: state has been so good to me. And the fan
2:27:56
Speaker 2: base is just off the charts crazy, and I'm I'm
2:28:00
Speaker 2: always grateful for the people of Arkansas.
2:28:02
Speaker 3: Win's camp begins begins Monday for Utah. When's it begin
2:28:05
Speaker 3: for Arkansas?
2:28:06
Speaker 2: Yep, Monday.
2:28:07
Speaker 5: Yeah.
2:28:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be getting ready to go, and so everybody
2:28:09
Speaker 2: be fired up and getting things ready to go. And
2:28:13
Speaker 2: once you get things started, I mean, you start that
2:28:16
Speaker 2: media day and you do all that, and then now
2:28:20
Speaker 2: it's just it's time to go. And then before you
2:28:22
Speaker 2: know it, Bill, we'll look up and it'll be week six.
2:28:24
Speaker 2: I say that, how fast that football season goes, Quinn.
2:28:27
Speaker 1: I say it all the time.
2:28:28
Speaker 3: It's the season we wait and count down the days
2:28:30
Speaker 3: to get here, but it flies by the fastest. Nobody
2:28:33
Speaker 3: ever says basketball season or baseball season fly by fast,
2:28:36
Speaker 3: But man, football season, it's gone in a blink.
2:28:39
Speaker 5: Of an eye.
2:28:40
Speaker 2: It is, it is, and I love every bit of it.
2:28:43
Speaker 2: It happens so fast, but it's one of the I
2:28:47
Speaker 2: like to say in the Grovy household, the holiday season
2:28:49
Speaker 2: starts when the first game kicks off, and then we
2:28:52
Speaker 2: just roll on in the Halloween, Thanksgiving, and Christmas in
2:28:56
Speaker 2: New Year's and it's just a big holiday for the
2:28:58
Speaker 2: Groovy family.
2:28:59
Speaker 3: I agree, same thing with the Rileys and the Smileies.
2:29:02
Speaker 3: So enjoy yourself. We'll connect again. I'll get with you
2:29:08
Speaker 3: and Chuck and we'll connect again, maybe get you on
2:29:10
Speaker 3: my podcast tape something for a pregame show. But I'll
2:29:13
Speaker 3: for sure you guys are gonna go to breakfast at
2:29:16
Speaker 3: Park Cafe. My friend Sean owns the place. It's the
2:29:19
Speaker 3: best breakfast spot anywhere in Salt Lake City. So breakfast
2:29:23
Speaker 3: for sure there, and I'll figure out some dinner spots
2:29:25
Speaker 3: for you too, all.
2:29:26
Speaker 2: Right, Bill, I appreciate it, Man, thanks for having me on.
2:29:28
Speaker 1: Talk to you. And Quinn, thank you.
2:29:30
Speaker 3: That's Quinn Grovey with us SEES, the color analyst, former
2:29:32
Speaker 3: Arkansas quarterback. You heard it won a couple of Southwest
2:29:35
Speaker 3: Conference championships over there for Kenny Hatfield. They'll be in
2:29:39
Speaker 3: Salt Lake City coming up on the twelfth of September.
2:29:43
Speaker 3: Practice kicks off Monday, five weeks from today. It's Idaho
2:29:46
Speaker 3: and then Arkansas goes right after that. So yeah, we
2:29:50
Speaker 3: can't wait for it. Best season of the year, absolute
2:29:54
Speaker 3: best season. You know, it's the best season because it's
2:29:56
Speaker 3: fall and the temperatures and the leaves chain and it's
2:30:00
Speaker 3: football season, and it's every Saturday and some case Thursdays.
2:30:04
Speaker 3: But then you within football season, you know what you have.
2:30:08
Speaker 3: You have Halloween, you have Thanksgiving, you have Christmas. All
2:30:11
Speaker 3: the best holidays are right there too. We'll be back
2:30:13
Speaker 3: to wrap it up next Shoon O'Connell show. Bill Riley
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Speaker 3: Af am, Well, I was expecting to see Spence check
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Speaker 3: it since the drive is coming up next. Apparently it's
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Speaker 3: I'm filling in here, Spence check it's out.
2:32:03
Speaker 1: Porter Larson filling in there. Where where's everybody at?
2:32:07
Speaker 2: Good?
2:32:07
Speaker 5: Question?
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Speaker 6: Undisclosed?
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm well.
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Speaker 3: How are you, boss man? I'm doing good. Former boss man, yes,
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Speaker 3: former boss man once upon a time. Yeah, well, I
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Speaker 3: guess forever whatever.
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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing well.
2:32:21
Speaker 6: I'm doing well.
2:32:22
Speaker 8: We're uh yes, maybe getting getting pto in before camp
2:32:27
Speaker 8: kicks off in the monday. The real sports, uh not
2:32:30
Speaker 8: no disrespect to soccer and golf and the like, no,
2:32:33
Speaker 8: but football season drives it. I mean, I love the month.
2:32:36
Speaker 3: I missed the fact that world we haven't had soccer
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Speaker 3: three times a day every day for the last couple
2:32:41
Speaker 3: of weeks.
2:32:42
Speaker 8: That was so much fun. And but you know, football
2:32:46
Speaker 8: is the season that drives it all. I mean you
2:32:48
Speaker 8: look at the studio absolute, especially on this station. That's uh,
2:32:52
Speaker 8: that's what drives folks. Even in July, we're talking World Cup.
2:32:57
Speaker 8: There's the top World Cup teams in the in the
2:33:00
Speaker 8: world playing on the television, right, and we've got Texters like, hey,
2:33:04
Speaker 8: where's the fall camp previous?
2:33:06
Speaker 1: Let's talk some mutes a right mix that.
2:33:09
Speaker 3: But they can't do it all. They can't do it
2:33:11
Speaker 3: three hours every day. You can in September, August, September, October,
2:33:15
Speaker 3: November though.
2:33:15
Speaker 8: Of course, of course, and plenty plenty bill of conversation
2:33:20
Speaker 8: of fodder this season with Utah football.
2:33:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be a great year.
2:33:24
Speaker 8: The scaley stuff, the transition, the transfer of power, if
2:33:29
Speaker 8: you will, but also just a whole lot beyond that, right,
2:33:33
Speaker 8: the assistant coaches that are filling roles, the roster which
2:33:39
Speaker 8: a lot of skill positions are set and ready to go.
2:33:42
Speaker 8: There's a lot of questions, maybe not concerns, but questions
2:33:46
Speaker 8: along the offensive and defensive fronts. And I'm excited to
2:33:50
Speaker 8: get into it all because it's it's gonna be fun.
2:33:52
Speaker 3: I think the offensive line is going to be good. Yeah,
2:33:55
Speaker 3: it's Is it going to be as dominant as it
2:33:57
Speaker 3: was a year ago? That that would be a stretch
2:33:59
Speaker 3: because that was a really that was kind of a generation.
2:34:02
Speaker 3: Once every five seven ten years. Good offensive line, but
2:34:05
Speaker 3: I think Jordan's got a bunch of good guys.
2:34:08
Speaker 1: I think they'll be good.
2:34:09
Speaker 3: I'm more curious about the defensive line because I think
2:34:11
Speaker 3: it's it's the position group that could most impact how
2:34:15
Speaker 3: good Utah season could be, say outside of quarterback. Obviously
2:34:19
Speaker 3: quarterback determines all that stuff, but I think they've got
2:34:22
Speaker 3: to figure you know, last year John Henry Daily was
2:34:24
Speaker 3: kind of a surprise, a very pleasant surprise. I don't
2:34:27
Speaker 3: think anybody had him getting eleven and a half sacks
2:34:30
Speaker 3: and ten and a half games last year.
2:34:32
Speaker 1: But who becomes that guy this year?
2:34:34
Speaker 3: Tackles were solid last year, but you know they gave
2:34:38
Speaker 3: up some running stuff late in the year. You know
2:34:40
Speaker 3: how good are those They brought in three tackles. They've
2:34:42
Speaker 3: got two returning in Kafusi and Poo Poo that are
2:34:46
Speaker 3: really good. So I'm really anxious to see the defensive.
2:34:50
Speaker 1: Line this year.
2:34:51
Speaker 8: Yeah, and the defensive line will tell you the ceiling
2:34:55
Speaker 8: of this defense.
2:34:56
Speaker 2: Right.
2:34:57
Speaker 3: You got a defensive line that's disruptive. That is, if
2:35:00
Speaker 3: you can rush four, that allows you to do so
2:35:03
Speaker 3: much more with you. You don't have to get super
2:35:06
Speaker 3: exotic with blitzes and things like that. If you can
2:35:08
Speaker 3: get pressure like they did with Fano and Daily last
2:35:11
Speaker 3: year off the edge with four and those four guys,
2:35:14
Speaker 3: that just allows everything else to be so much different
2:35:17
Speaker 3: defensively and.
2:35:18
Speaker 8: Simple, right, It simplifies everything else behind that defensive front.
2:35:21
Speaker 8: And it also allows, if you want to, your ability
2:35:25
Speaker 8: to take some risks, your ability to not blitz because
2:35:28
Speaker 8: you need to, but blitz because you want to, because
2:35:31
Speaker 8: you have that offense on their heels, right, And that's
2:35:34
Speaker 8: that's something that a defensive coordinator in his first year
2:35:38
Speaker 8: a defensive coordinator in Colton Swan, it would just make
2:35:41
Speaker 8: his life so much easier. And you know, I think
2:35:44
Speaker 8: that you mentioned Poop Poo and Carson a couple of
2:35:48
Speaker 8: transfer ends that they're really high on in Samsula and otherwise.
2:35:52
Speaker 8: I think that this is a defensive line that has
2:35:55
Speaker 8: a lot of bodies and a lot of guys that
2:35:56
Speaker 8: you can throw out there. But having seven guys is
2:36:01
Speaker 8: one thing. Having that one or two that are your
2:36:05
Speaker 8: John Henry Daily that our game changers, right, is something that.
2:36:09
Speaker 3: You need in order to have a top flight defense. No,
2:36:12
Speaker 3: I agree, it's going to be fun to watch kind
2:36:14
Speaker 3: of how those pieces move around. To Colton's point, he's
2:36:16
Speaker 3: been a coordinator before. He was a coordinator at Weber Right,
2:36:19
Speaker 3: and he's been part of this defense and knows the personnel.
2:36:21
Speaker 8: So I think that's a pretty smooth transition for him.
2:36:23
Speaker 8: And I talked about on the show a little bit yesterday.
2:36:26
Speaker 8: There was an inkling that he was going to be
2:36:28
Speaker 8: the defensive coordinator this year before the season ended. Things
2:36:32
Speaker 8: in the offseason were a little fluid, if you will,
2:36:36
Speaker 8: with Kyle and maybe changing some minds up there. But
2:36:39
Speaker 8: Colton was preparing as if he was maybe going to
2:36:42
Speaker 8: be the defensive coordinator this year, and there was some
2:36:47
Speaker 8: he had some more tasks to do later on in
2:36:50
Speaker 8: the year. He was he was calling some plays, he
2:36:52
Speaker 8: was being more involved.
2:36:53
Speaker 3: I think Morgan had I think Morgan kind of had
2:36:56
Speaker 3: him prepare because Morgan's been preparing. He knew he was
2:36:58
Speaker 3: going to be a head coach at some point in time,
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Speaker 3: and waiting on and off for I think he and
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Speaker 3: he and and Colton probably had those conversations when that
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Speaker 3: day comes, be prepared. Yeah, and he had on the
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Speaker 3: show today by way, Yeah, on the show today, We'll
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Speaker 3: we'll talk you top fall camp.
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Speaker 1: Of course, with it coming up on Monday.
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Speaker 8: Sammy Moore of You Zone is going to stop by
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Speaker 8: in studio and we're going to go all through the
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Speaker 8: entire roster, give a little preview of fall camp, what
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Speaker 8: question marks remain, what ones have been answered since springball
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Speaker 8: and and uh since the fall and we'll go from
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Speaker 8: there with Sammy Richard Smithy Smith is going to stop
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Speaker 8: by and talking studio all the NBA off season, all
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Speaker 8: the jazz stuff, NBA Draft and Darren Peterson in Salt
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Speaker 8: Lake City and more. And then Paul Pugmyer will have
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Speaker 8: a U went to golf PGA Tour update of course,
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Speaker 8: a fun golf season so far this summer.
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Speaker 3: All right, that's all coming up on the Drive with
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Speaker 3: Porter Larsen today as he pinched hits for Spence Checkets.
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Speaker 3: Thanks to Cordy for coming in studio, Thanks to Ryan Leave,
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Speaker 3: thanks for Kream Grove. Thanks to you guys for interacting
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Speaker 3: and listening in today. I absolutely positively love filling in
2:38:06
Speaker 3: for Sean when I get a chance and getting to
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Speaker 3: Listen to my podcast, The Crimson Corner. The latest episode
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Speaker 3: I have Bradley and I on this week. I've got
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Speaker 3: my Under the Headset podcasts as well. Earlier this week,
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Speaker 3: Derek Odom and Kevin mcgiven dropped. Chad bump Is drops
2:38:28
Speaker 3: a little bit later today Coach Bump, who's back coaching
2:38:31
Speaker 3: wide receivers for Utah. Find those wherever you find podcasts,
2:38:35
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2:38:37
Speaker 3: a video component to the Under the Headset podcast as well.
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Speaker 1: Five weeks.
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Speaker 3: Five weeks until Football Baby Camp begins on Monday. Porter's
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Speaker 3: next with the Drive. Talk to you soon. Bill Riley
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