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MotoGP Indonesia 2025 Round 18 Recap in S5 Ep 32 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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  Yeah, listen to the Beef River Cool podcast.
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  My name is Rex 45. This evening we got lots to talk
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  about Indonesia. A lot went down there.
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  A lot of first excited about that.
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  There's some, you know, tough things to talk about with some
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  of the riders. So we're going to jump into it.
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  But let me introduce our guests for tonight one at a time.
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  First, let's bring in TJ to the building.
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  TJ, what's going on? Man, How you doing?
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  Hanging in man, ready to talk motorcycles.
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  There's interesting weekend overall.
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  A lot happens, so ready to get into it?
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  Yeah, no doubt. And I saw that the Patriots won,
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  so you must be excited about that, but hopefully you're not
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  going to get your hopes up too much.
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  Everyone's afraid of us always. It's good to see us to get a a
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  big win, you know, take an undefeated team down.
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  But, you know, we do what we always do.
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  So we'll see. We don't have Tom Brady, but we
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  we still dogs in the end. We always fight so.
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  No doubt, no doubt. That's what's up.
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  We're going to keep it moving. Reese, man, welcome to the show.
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  See you behind the wheels. I know you're going to be
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  getting on a plane soon and and going to check out Portugal and
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  stuff like that. What's going on, man?
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  How things might have lost Reese there.
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  We, you know, we, we got, we don't get back to Reese Lewis,
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  man. Welcome to the show, man.
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  How you doing tonight man? Good, good man.
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  Glad to be back on camera. Last week I was in the I was
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  driving so I was blacked out the entire time, which is a good
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  thing because people couldn't see my face reacting to some of
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  the things. They just had to listen.
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  They just had to listen to the to the tone of my voice and know
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  that I had that look on my face. Yeah, hey, well, they're going
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  to see it tonight for sure, man. So everything's good.
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  Yeah, everything's good. Back home for a week.
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  Next week I'll be out in Cali for a few days and I'm back home
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  for a couple weeks and then I'm off to Italy for for 10 days and
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  then I'm back home again. So this next couple of months is
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  a lot of home and trip and home and trip and home and trip.
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  But everything else is good, man.
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  Season's over, so now I'm just putting all the pieces together
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  for the riders that are going to be working with me next year,
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  making sure that I got everything I need to take care
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  of them. And you know, for those of you
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  that think it's not, I mean it's hard enough doing bikes and
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  everything else, but it's just as hard doing gear, getting it
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  together. I mean, I sometimes it's a
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  little bit even more pressure because we'll have a suit
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  designed or we'll have, you know, suits made and they'll
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  ship and they'll get here. And literally the day they get
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  here, the riders like, oh, I got a new patch to add or I'm going
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  to change this. I'm going to change that.
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  And you know, it's not easy to make those moves, takes time,
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  but but we got a, we got a quick crew for next year.
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  No doubt it. It's not and I and I and I feel
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  you there with the traveling and stuff like that as I got in last
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  night and you know, I'm sitting here complaining about it today,
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  but it is what it is. And we're going to talk about
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  next season as well and what that looks like and and the
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  behind the scenes and stuff like that is we'll wait for Reese to
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  come back in. Like he might have had some
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  technical issues on his side. So we'll keep it moving until he
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  he he cuts, he cuts comes back. So let's let's talk about it.
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  The race Moto GP was Indonesia and I'm I'm going to mess up the
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  the name of the track but. Mandalika.
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  Thank you, Mandalika, which I didn't realize it was VR46
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  Academy team, you know, I guess home second home track and and I
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  didn't even notice their colors too much.
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  I was only seeing the yellow, but they were kind of further
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  back in in in in the situation this weekend.
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  But let's jump into it Aprilia, they look really good.
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  They're down to riders still were able to, you know, get, you
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  know, pole position and Raul Fernandez, even though he had a
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  contract for next year, you know, I think, you know, it's
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  what he's the closest thing to what did digit Antonio had to go
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  through and he was struggling with Grazini for for a bit and
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  then he found his way at the end.
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  I mean, I know indigenous case. He didn't have a contract weight
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  and then and he and his finish of the season allow him to get
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  signed with VR46 Academy. And now he's the he gets the 25
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  bike and he's he's one of the top riders.
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  And I mean he's one of the top five riders in the championship
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  or top six in the championship. And so the most impressive thing
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  was what Raul's doing and what he's been doing lately, you
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  know, getting on the podium and stuff like that.
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  That's huge. What are your thoughts, TJ?
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  Well, I mean, we don't hear much about these guys.
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  So at this point of the season is is kind of finally to, you
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  know, hear some names that we should be hearing.
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  He's been struggling for a while.
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  And to ride really well on the track where a lot of riders did
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  not, it's pretty good to see. And for him to go on the podium
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  is awesome, you know, well deserved and he needs the
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  confidence. So definitely going forward for
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  being on a 2025 bike, I think he definitely would be more
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  improved, but I think it's good to see him on the podium for
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  sure. And he got 6 in the the Grand
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  Prix, so the overall good weekend for himself.
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  Yeah, let me just check right now.
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  I think so. I mean, he he was close in the
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  beginning. And yeah, top six in the
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  championship, third in in the Sprint.
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  What are your thoughts, Lewis, on, on, on how Aprilia is is
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  doing? We'll talk about Bazecki's crash
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  and Mark crash. We probably jump into that right
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  after since we're talking about Aprilia.
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  But you know what, Raul, what he's been doing, you know, he,
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  he, you know, he's not going to be fighting for rookie of the
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  year because he's been in Moto GP now for a few years, you
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  know, But do you think this is something where if sponsors were
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  thinking about leaving or, you know, track house might have
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  been like, well, we won't see him in 27.
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  Do you think like he's doing enough now to sit here and say
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  hey man, I deserve a job and stay in Moto GP at least for
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  four years? Yeah, there's two things coming
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  together here at the same time. 1 I think he is, he's finding
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  his rhythm. He's, you know, he's been pretty
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  consistent when he's been finishing races, he's been very
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  consistent. He's been, you know, kind of
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  working his way up from the bottom of the grid.
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  If you remember at the beginning of the year, I mean, he, this
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  guy was written off. You know, his teammate was very
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  competitive. And then that, you know, when
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  his teammate went in One Direction, he started going in
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  the opposite direction. As his teammate went down, he
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  went up. And I think that's two things.
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  I think 1, he probably found the right mix of the setup that he
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  needed. But as I said previously, the
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  only other bike that's competitive to do Ducati right
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  now is the Aprilia. And I think Aprilia has kind of
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  taken these small steps throughout the season and you've
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  seen how they've gotten more and more competitive now, you know,
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  on a regular basis. They're right up up there at the
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  at the front, they're at the pointy end of the spear.
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  And I think he's just taking advantage of Aprilia getting its
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  rhythm under it of him getting his rhythm under him, finding
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  the right setups. The kid could ride.
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  It's not that the kid couldn't ride.
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  I mean, it's, you know, all these guys in Moto GB can ride,
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  man. You know, they show up at any
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  track day, they're going to wipe the floor with anybody.
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  They show up at most racing events, they're going to wipe
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  the floor with anybody. If it's competitive bike here,
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  you know, you're at the very tip of the sword, man.
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  It's just so narrow up there. I mean, you can finish in 15th
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  place and you're only, you know, 8 tenths of a second slower a
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  lap. But you finished in 15th place,
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  almost 8 seconds off the leader. Like, it's crazy, dude.
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  Like when you think about those numbers, 8 seconds, it takes me
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  longer than that to go from here to the garage and back and and
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  I'm I'm in 15 place. Yeah, no, it it's definitely
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  crazy to see that. I mean, and even in Moto 2 you
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  see it more when I, you know, Joe Roberts was like, you know,
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  point, you know, 7 seconds off off of the the number one guy
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  and it's just kind of like I'm in 15 place.
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  Yeah, that that doesn't make any sense.
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  So I think, I think Aprilia has made just a couple of right of
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  adjustments and he's made whatever adjustments he needs to
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  make and it's good to see him up there, man.
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  I like to see these young guys, you know, getting their, their,
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  their opportunities to be on the podium.
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  I love to see new faces on the podium, man.
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  There's nothing worse than seeing the same 3 or 4 guys
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  sharing the podium week in and week out.
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  And even if it's just a Sprint race, you know what man, Sprint
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  builds kind of confidence. If you get enough good sprints
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  under you, then you start thinking, hey, if I can do this
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  in the Sprint, I just got to double up the amount of time and
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  I can do this in the race. And we've seen that with other
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  young guys. I, I look forward to the rest of
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  the season. You know, I was thinking for a
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  while that Aprilia was only going to be competitive at
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  certain tracks, But I mean, they're proving to me now that
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  they're actually competitive in a lot of tracks, man, It's not
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  just a few tracks. They're definitely a step ahead
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  of Yamaha. They're definitely a step ahead
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  of a Honda. And they're, they're kind of
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  like the the up and coming manufacturer, the guys to look
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  out for. Right, right.
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  No, I, I, I agree with that. And you know, TJ, you know you
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  didn't. Let's talk about Bazecki.
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  He got pole position. He seems like he's the only guy
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  that been fighting with Marc Marquez in the races as of late.
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  And the Prelia is as as we heard, you just heard Lewis say
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  is it was one of the best bikes out there.
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  Granted, they still got to figure out their starts, but
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  what a way for Bez to come from 8:00 to win the Sprint.
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  And you know, and unless let's talk about Mark and Bez's crash,
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  was it really Bez's fault on that?
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  So what are you, what are your thoughts, TJ On, on, on.
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  You know what Bez is doing, what Aprilia is doing.
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  As far as you know, they're they're taking away points away
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  from Ducati. Yeah, I mean, like Lewis and you
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  guys are saying, Aprilia has definitely been the manufacturer
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  who's been the the most competitive to Ducati with
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  Ducati having so many bikes on the three and having the
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  championship being out and have to rely on your other factory.
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  Ryder Dazecki has definitely stepped it up for the
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  second-half of the season. They've been having great setups
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  and coming into this race for him to get polls awesome, you
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  know, it just shows that that bike has a good setup at most
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  tracks so far. His pace was just second to
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  none, like the start that he had was pretty bad in the Sprint
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  which put him back a lot of places.
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  And he just had a mentality I guess from following Mark so
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  much that you know how to fight from the back and just work his
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  way in the front. And it's pretty impressive for
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  the amount of laps that he had to do it.
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  And you know, just Al Daguerre could have pulled it out.
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  You know how to how to put that awesome weekend, but is that he
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  pulled out the 1st place and that was pretty cool to see him
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  fight and get to the podium going into the GPI.
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  Think it was just more of like, I don't know if it was that his
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  fault. I think he was just too eager
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  going into the corner knowing he had to follow Mark probably and
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  just keep up with the pace in the front.
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  I think Mark probably a little went a little wide in the corner
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  slightly. But yeah, I think it was just a
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  a freak accident. Obviously we don't think he did
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  it on purpose and and it's just I'm unfortunate that, you know,
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  we've been seeing this type of incidents in past couple of
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  races. So it's something going on
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  there. I I, I, I agree there's
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  definitely something going on. Lewis, what are you, what are
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  your thoughts on on on Bez, the accident, just how he's riding.
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  You know, when you look at this, I gotta look at the standings to
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  be sure. I could have been dreaming.
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  But when I looked at it, it was like, you know, Marc Marquez,
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  Alex Marquez back now. Yeah.
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  VR46 Academy riders, it seems like it's, it's Rossi and, and,
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  and the Marquez's because these are all Rossi students, right?
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  So you know, what are you, what are your thoughts on it?
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  Is it is it a fluke thing? Is it just because, you know,
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  he's part of the VR46 Academy? And it seems like, you know,
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  outside of Peko Bagnaya at the moment, like the the the VR46
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  Academy riders, they know how to talk to the engineers and get
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  what they want from the bikes. I mean, it could be a couple of
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  things because the VR46 riders, obviously they get a lot of
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  training in bikes set up and how to talk to mechanics and how to
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  understand data and so forth and so on.
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  And but they have a lot of talent too.
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  I mean, it's not like they accept anybody into the VR46
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  Academy. If they bring you into the fold,
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  it's because they see something in you that they believe they
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  can develop into a champion or into somebody that could be a
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  contender. Bazecki right now is probably
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  riding the best that I think he's ever ridden.
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  I think he's taking the Aprilia pretty far.
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  I mean, he's the only one that was giving them feedback.
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  He was a, he was a one man team. Out of four guys on an Aprilia,
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  he was the only one that was really getting the bike to do
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  anything that he wanted. And once they kind of fixed it,
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  figured out the issues, you know, he he kind of ran with it.
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  I, I still think that he, he keeps going at the pace he's
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  going. He's probably going to finish
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  ahead of back nine at the end of the year, which will be a a win
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  in itself. I mean, you want to you beat a
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  former champion, you beat a guy that's on the factory team in
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  Ducati, which everybody considers the penultimate or the
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  best bike in the in the grid. You're the second best bike in
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  the grid. So these are all little
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  victories he can walk away with and for the most part, he's
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  riding great. You know, coming back from, you
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  know, again, horrible start something with the Aprilia is
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  not right. These starts suck.
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  They can't keep doing this because it's eventually it's
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  going to catch up and it kind of caught up in the second rate in
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  the race itself. You know, in the Sprint he was
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  able to kind of get through a lot of people and and and get to
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  the front. But and the long race, you know,
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  I think he's trying to compensate for such a bad start
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  that you start making small mistakes.
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  And on this particular track, if you saw there were in a lot of
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  great places of passage, seemed there was a few places and maybe
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  he just got overeager and and clashed into Mark.
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  You know, I don't think he did it on purpose because he's out
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  there trying to win. Did it look like they had two
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  separate lines? It looked like they had two
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  separate lines, but again, that could be Mark's riding style
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  versus Bazecki's riding style. You know, until you're on the
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  bike, you can't, you know, you can't really say you can't.
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  You know, every bike has its different dynamics when you go
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  through a turn. You know, the, the Ducati is
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  known for being a great stable bike on the braking.
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  The Aprilia is known for, you know, having a a different type
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  of line and this and that. And then Mark himself can do
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  things other riders can't do in the mid corner.
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  And the way that he slows the bike and pushes it out of the
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  corner. I I just think again, it's
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  always the passing riders responsibility to pass safely.
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  So if you clash into somebody like that and that wasn't like a
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  small bump like that was a a legitimate clash.
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  Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Bez had
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  to stand the bike up. Yeah, you have to, you have to
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  kind of own it and, and Bez owned it, you know, Bez said his
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  apologies and everything else. And I think Mark did a class
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  acting by saying, you know, hey, this is a racing incident.
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  I don't take this is anything serious.
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  I don't believe it one moment that Bazeki did this on purpose.
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  And I think that was Mark trying to like change the, the, the
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  temperature in the room because you know what?
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  The what? Was the day before he had a long
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  penalty for bumping what you would call it?
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  So it's like, you know. He has to take it that way
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  because he was on the other side of it, but they stayed up right.
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  But you also have to think who hit him AVR 46 rider.
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  So, you know, right now, as soon as AVR 46 rider takes Mark
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  Marquez out, I mean, people are blowing their loads all over
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  Italy right now because they're like, hey, you know, like so
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  he's trying to change the narrative and lower the
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  temperature in the room and say there's a racing innocent.
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  I don't you know, I know that he didn't do it on purpose.
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  I think he mark is showing he has a lot of respect even though
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  they're banging when they're racing, you know, off the track,
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  he's trying to be that guy that shows a lot of respect to people
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  because he doesn't want to further go down that mud and get
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  pulled into that, that that quicksand again of like drama
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  with Italian riders, drama with VL 46 this.
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  And that's like, you know what, it just sucks that he's going to
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  miss the next two rounds because he's only, you know, 55 points
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  away from setting a new all time record 600 points.
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  So hopefully he'll take these next two rounds, he'll heal up,
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  he'll come back after the flyways, do a couple of rounds
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  in Europe and maybe get those last 55 points he needs and set
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  that 600 point mark, man. Yeah, OK, that's what's up.
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  Let's let's talk about it. You know, Ducati struggled this
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  weekend. Really a little bit, a little
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  bit. Ducati struggled a little bit
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  this weekend. A lot of it.
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  You know, you know, and, and I said this, I mean, I've been
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  saying this all. It's one of the things I really
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  do. And I'm I'm going to try to be
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  more like Lewis and say I'm right all the time.
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  Well, you have to actually be right all the time.
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  You. Know, you know, most times I am
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  when I say I am but Ducati's messing up I mean I, I, I think
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  that, you know, I think the 2025 Ducati's probably the worst bike
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  they've made since 2020 and 2020 was their worst bike because
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  they didn't give it to the satellite teams.
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  They, they all had 19 bikes and that bike didn't, didn't
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  survive. And it sounds like, you know,
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  Alex Marquez doesn't want a 2625 bike.
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  They're running from the 25 bike.
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  It it, you know, is it a situation where, you know, you
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  look back at when Vinales started struggling with Yamaha,
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  when you know Pedro's and these other guys are struggling with
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  Honda, But you know, Quatarara could ride the bike fast for
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  Yamaha, Mark could ride the bike fast for Honda.
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  Mark could not ride the bike fast for Ducati.
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  But the bike is not the same. It's not, it's not a they're
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  starting to slip. And we saw that then and it
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  just, we just thought, you know, they just kind of said, like,
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  you know, these riders are just going to they they have to
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  figure it out. It's the confidence thing.
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  It's a that thing. And then, you know, three years
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  later, the bike is bad and everybody, it's unanimous.
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  So I I say all that to say, like this is on Ducati, right?
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  The way, the way these bikes are running at this point, we can't.
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  I know, I know Petco gets a lot of Flack.
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  And welcome back to the show, Reese.
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  And, you know, but what are you, what are your thoughts?
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  We'll start with TJ. Yeah, I mean, I think, I think,
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  you know, Pekko is has been riding a Ducati for a good long
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  time. He's been the champion.
• 19:26
  So he's been, you know, putting the ends and out of that.
• 19:29
  So if if the talks like that, it should be like based around his
• 19:34
  riding style. But, you know, for for this
• 19:38
  year, I don't know if Mark and his riding style is if they
• 19:44
  developed more around him because, you know, they're just
• 19:47
  getting more WS and, you know, if you're winning, you have to
• 19:51
  go with what's what's, what's working.
• 19:53
  And so whoever is not doing good, you got to all right, this
• 19:57
  is what's working. So you got to figure out what's
• 19:59
  working. So Tycho is just not not it's
• 20:02
  not working for him going that route.
• 20:04
  She used to like, you know, send his way and his pace and, and,
• 20:11
  and it's just not working that way.
• 20:12
  But yeah, I think the the bike is, you know, I don't know who
• 20:17
  is who is balled around, but. I think, yeah, I just think that
• 20:22
  it's it's all how Mark set it up basically of how it's been
• 20:27
  winning. And you know how they did with
• 20:32
  the Honda, you know, like we were saying is like they they
• 20:35
  they developing his style. So now no one can really ride
• 20:38
  the bike. So they got to kind of start
• 20:40
  from scratch. So yeah, I don't know what the
• 20:43
  Ducati's problem is. The one good thing is that they
• 20:45
  have a lot of bikes out there, no matter what, that there
• 20:48
  always will be in the top five. Somehow, somehow, some way,
• 20:52
  another Ducati rider will end up pulling it up, yeah.
• 20:55
  You, you might have a point there for sure, Reese, man,
• 21:00
  let's, let's, let's, let's talk to you.
• 21:04
  Let's talk to you, man. We're we're talking about
• 21:06
  Aprilia first before, so you might miss that.
• 21:08
  So you might want to talk about Aprilia a little bit.
• 21:11
  Just how you know they have it together, although they they're
• 21:15
  still struggling on the start and stuff like that.
• 21:18
  They seem to be the most consistent bike this season,
• 21:22
  even though, you know, Raul had to find his way mentally, I
• 21:26
  believe. And maybe he just needed to be
• 21:29
  around different riders. I, I mean, Aleish Espragro it,
• 21:32
  it might be tough for somebody to talk to because he's so
• 21:34
  intense last year and stuff like that on the Aprilia.
• 21:38
  But any thoughts on Aprilia and what they were able to do this
• 21:41
  weekend and how competitive they were despite Bazecki's crash on
• 21:46
  Sunday? I mean, no, I mean, Bazecki was
• 21:50
  very competitive. I mean, he was one of the
• 21:52
  fastest guys out there. I mean, besides his mental
• 21:55
  breakdown of running in the back of Marquez, I mean, the Aprilia
• 22:01
  looks solid. I mean, he's he's he is the
• 22:04
  number one guy, you know, for that squad right now.
• 22:08
  So besides, like I said, he is the number one squad.
• 22:11
  He's taking that bike, He's been there through the thick of it
• 22:15
  and he's actually put that bike well back on the top.
• 22:19
  So I got to give it to Aprilia because he's actually turned it
• 22:22
  almost into a development rider. So.
• 22:27
  Yeah, I, I, I agree with that. You know, and, you know, we kind
• 22:30
  of mentioned that a little bit and talked about, you know, is
• 22:33
  that just kind of the the tutelage of Rossi, right?
• 22:36
  Because, you know, you look at the the top five guys, it's the
• 22:40
  Marquez brothers and then it's the BR 46 Academy riders.
• 22:44
  And and so is it it's not just the fluke when you see what Luca
• 22:48
  is doing and all these other guys are doing and stuff like
• 22:50
  that. So do you think it's a little
• 22:51
  bit more of, you know, he like Besseki?
• 22:55
  He's just he, you know, he, he, he's in the best Academy that
• 22:58
  you could be in a Moto GPI. Mean he is in one of the top
• 23:02
  academies I mean you got to look at everybody that's come through
• 23:04
  there even you know JDV just come through there, but you just
• 23:09
  got to look at all the guys that's come through there.
• 23:11
  You know, Rossi is giving you the knowledge, but if you don't,
• 23:15
  you know, use it and it's not worth anything.
• 23:18
  But he's actually taking what he learns and probably utilizing it
• 23:23
  and talking to her. For you coming from, you know, a
• 23:26
  Ducati bike going into Aprilia factory bike and learning what
• 23:31
  works and what don't works and trying it and telling it all
• 23:34
  comes down to the rider being able to talk to your crew chief
• 23:37
  and explain exactly what he needs to be done and trust in
• 23:41
  your team to get it done. That's where it comes down
• 23:43
  because if you can't talk to your crew chief and explain what
• 23:47
  the problem is, you know, then it's not going to work.
• 23:50
  So, but he's actually doing really well and I think he's
• 23:53
  utilizing from what he learned from Rossi, same thing as
• 23:56
  Marini. Right, right.
• 23:58
  OK, no, I agree. And and you know, just to get
• 24:00
  you caught up now. Yeah.
• 24:01
  So is is is this Ducati had a rough weekend overall, is Ducati
• 24:05
  messing up? I mean, it seems like the 24
• 24:08
  Viking is the best, is the best Ducati to date.
• 24:12
  You know what, what are your thoughts?
• 24:14
  Or is it just conditions in Indonesia?
• 24:18
  Like, you know, a lot of them, even Mark has struggled.
• 24:22
  I think it was a little bit of both.
• 24:23
  I think the conditions were a little crappy because I mean, if
• 24:25
  you look at a lot of people going down, there were a lot of
• 24:27
  bikes going down. And I think that the the 25 bike
• 24:31
  is one of the worst bikes versus the 24.
• 24:35
  You could have actually what they call over development the
• 24:38
  bike, you could have overdid it and take you need to step back a
• 24:42
  little bit and go back to the 24 platform.
• 24:45
  So I think that's where they're at.
• 24:49
  I think that's why, like you said, Alex Marquez doesn't even
• 24:51
  want the bike. He wants to stay where he's at
• 24:53
  on the bike. He's on Pekka is just, I think
• 24:58
  Pekka just threw in the towel. You know, I think he's pretty
• 25:01
  much done for the season. Marquez struggled this weekend a
• 25:05
  little bit. That's the first time I've ever
• 25:07
  seen him struggle that much. So, but yeah, I think it's, I
• 25:11
  think it's one of those things where the bike is just
• 25:13
  overdeveloped and it needs to revamp itself and pretty much
• 25:17
  start from that 24 mark, yeah. Yeah, I, I, I agree, Lewis, man,
• 25:23
  you heard all that. But you know, what are your
• 25:25
  thoughts is is Ducati messing up?
• 25:27
  Do we? Do we?
• 25:28
  When you go over to Italy, you need to go to the factory and
• 25:31
  and and tell some people who you are.
• 25:33
  No, I think they know who I am now.
• 25:40
  I don't think they're having any problems specifically.
• 25:43
  I mean, obviously the 25 bikes got its challenges and we see
• 25:48
  the guys that are on the 25 bikes sometimes have little
• 25:51
  flashes of brilliance and then struggle mightily.
• 25:55
  Obviously Marquez, because of his riding style and his
• 25:58
  adaptiveness to overcome issues, has been able to maybe mask some
• 26:03
  of the problems because if you look at everybody's on the
• 26:05
  actual 25 bike outside of Marquez, nobody's been
• 26:09
  consistent on that bike. You know, the, the guys on a 24
• 26:12
  bikes have been way more consistent.
• 26:14
  You know, Petco hasn't been able to put it together.
• 26:16
  He had one good weekend in Japan and then somebody, you know,
• 26:20
  didn't tighten the Val stem cap 100% tight this weekend.
• 26:24
  And obviously the bike was unrideable.
• 26:26
  You know, he went from from first to worst in in one week,
• 26:29
  man, which is unheard of. I I don't even understand how
• 26:32
  that happens. Yeah, no, I I agree.
• 26:34
  Yeah, I don't. I like, you know, and I give it,
• 26:38
  I mean, look, I give it to these guys, right?
• 26:40
  Because they're, they're as a, you know what Ross, he's done
• 26:44
  because they keep a tight lip for the most part.
• 26:46
  I mean, they don't, you know, we've yet to see Bagnaya give
• 26:49
  the bike a finger, right? So.
• 26:53
  I'm sure he's wanted to, but he also understands if that that
• 26:56
  finger is going to come back and get stuck somewhere.
• 26:58
  He don't want to get stuck in his contract because, you know,
• 27:02
  it only takes a couple of times pissing the wrong people off to
• 27:05
  find yourself outside of racing, outside of a good ride, you
• 27:08
  know, in a third tier team, not making the money you want to
• 27:11
  make or the results that you want to compete for.
• 27:15
  But yeah, there's definitely something about the 25 bike
• 27:18
  that's not working. And Mark was the only one that
• 27:21
  was able to mask whatever the problem was because of his
• 27:23
  riding style and his ability to adapt.
• 27:26
  And going into next year, I don't know what the solution is,
• 27:29
  man. I don't, you know, I don't think
• 27:30
  anybody that's on a 24 bike is going to want the 25 bike next
• 27:33
  year and I doubt the Ducati is going to want to keep pushing
• 27:37
  the 24 bike in 26. And did the 19 back then, yeah.
• 27:44
  But but how long do you also want to do that?
• 27:46
  Because remember, man, we're just, we're just less than, you
• 27:49
  know what, 20 months away from the 27 regulations kicking in
• 27:55
  and now you got a whole new, new problem.
• 27:58
  You know, so do you want to try to fix all the problems in one
• 28:02
  year for a bike that you're going to scrap?
• 28:03
  Because the following year you have to make so many changes to
• 28:05
  the package to adapt to the newer dynamics, the new motor,
• 28:09
  the new tires, the new, this, the new, I mean, there's so many
• 28:12
  new things. How much money does anybody want
• 28:15
  to invest in 26 knowing that that bike that they're
• 28:18
  developing in 26 is going to go right in the trash in 27?
• 28:21
  Right. No, I agree.
• 28:22
  I agree. Everybody write.
• 28:24
  Everybody write a 24 and that's it.
• 28:27
  Yeah, I, I, I, I agree with that.
• 28:31
  Let's talk about Honda. Honda, man.
• 28:35
  You know, I listen when, when I think Luka Marini was leading
• 28:38
  the race at one point or second, second, I I was rooting for him.
• 28:42
  I was, I was rooting for him outside of Aprilia.
• 28:46
  I mean, Honda's, you know, when we were when Zarko won at the
• 28:49
  French, you know, and, and kinda was, you know, going into Q2
• 28:52
  before that and stuff like that, we were like, OK, you know,
• 28:55
  they're going, they're going to do something.
• 28:56
  They should be really pretty good.
• 28:58
  But I didn't expect them to be doing as well as they're doing.
• 29:01
  Granted, you know, mayor crashed out, which is unfortunate, but
• 29:04
  they were very competitive this weekend.
• 29:07
  You know, I think they have a good chance to to do do really
• 29:10
  well at the next few rounds. What are your thoughts, TJ, on
• 29:14
  how Honda did and is doing? And you know, it's, it's safe to
• 29:19
  say they're the third best manufacturer in the championship
• 29:22
  at the moment. Yeah, no, it's always good to
• 29:26
  see like improvement. So from from where they started,
• 29:31
  from the beginning of the year, they were pretty much dead last,
• 29:34
  like the worst. And slowly but surely they've
• 29:38
  been improving. The second-half of the season.
• 29:41
  We've seen Luca Marini come back from his injury and he's been
• 29:44
  riding really well. Same with Mir for some reason.
• 29:48
  Mir still unfortunately, he has his incidence in the races, but
• 29:52
  he's been riding really well. It's pretty impressive to see.
• 29:56
  Zarko had a really, really tough weekend this weekend.
• 29:59
  I think he crashed like 3 or 4 times.
• 30:02
  Somehow he was still able to finish the GP, but I would say
• 30:08
  Luca Marini is definitely going to stand out from where he from
• 30:12
  what we know he's capable of and showing to do right now.
• 30:18
  And for him to be leading the race.
• 30:20
  Like, you know, sometimes when you see a rider that hasn't been
• 30:23
  upfront for so long, you like, do they know what to do right
• 30:26
  now or like, you know how they're going to like, you know,
• 30:29
  sometimes the riders like go too hard and then they crash out
• 30:33
  because, you know, they're not used to it.
• 30:34
  But it was cool to see even though he couldn't hold it.
• 30:37
  But you see the potential. Yeah, I agree.
• 30:42
  There's definitely potential there for Luca and I and I think
• 30:45
  these guys are going to, I don't know if they'll win before the
• 30:47
  end of the season, but they're they're really close.
• 30:50
  What are your thoughts, Reese, on Honda, what they're doing
• 30:52
  right now? I mean, whatever Honda's doing,
• 30:55
  I mean they're one of the only the the Japan brands that has
• 30:59
  got getting their act together and coming back to the stage and
• 31:02
  coming pretty much like we say, coming back to the party to come
• 31:06
  up to the top that front guys. So whatever they're doing, I
• 31:09
  mean, I commend them for their work.
• 31:11
  Took them a while, but I mean from Luca to mirror, I mean
• 31:16
  they're got those guys are coming up.
• 31:18
  I mean, I think that, you know, this year it shows what they're
• 31:22
  possibly able to capable to do. And I think next year, I think
• 31:26
  if they keep going in the direction they're going, I think
• 31:28
  next year, those are going to be some guys that you you got to
• 31:31
  look out for. Those are being with, you know,
• 31:33
  your dark horses right there. I think they may be the ones to
• 31:36
  come up and spoil a couple parties.
• 31:38
  So I think they're I think they're on on the right path to
• 31:43
  to going back towards the top. And you know, as far as the
• 31:46
  other, you know, the other guys is all way back there and KTM
• 31:49
  seen lost away. But I don't know, I think
• 31:52
  Honda's on there on the verge of coming back.
• 31:55
  Yeah, I agree. I I think Honda is definitely
• 31:58
  there and close and it's nice to see Mia not crash as much even
• 32:02
  though, you know, he crashed out in in the main race.
• 32:07
  You know, that's the part that's crazy.
• 32:09
  We'll move to Lewis. Lewis, what are your thoughts on
• 32:13
  what Honda is doing and you know is it is Mia going to crash
• 32:19
  again before the season is over? That's a guarantee he's going to
• 32:23
  crash again at least a few more times before the season's over.
• 32:28
  But crash or not, I mean, his results are starting to show
• 32:30
  through. You know, he's starting to be
• 32:32
  competitive. He's starting to finish on a
• 32:34
  regular basis, a little bit higher up in that top 10, not
• 32:38
  just on the cusp of the top 1011 and 12 and so forth, but
• 32:42
  actually in the top ten. And he was starting to creep his
• 32:44
  way up in the closer to the top five man.
• 32:47
  And that's what you want to see. And Marini, same thing, man.
• 32:50
  You know, next year Honda's game plan is right before the start
• 32:53
  of the year, all the riders go to Japan, crash and it all come
• 32:58
  back and they're super good again for some reason.
• 33:01
  Like that's what it took is Marina to crash during the
• 33:06
  Super, the, what do you call it, endurance race, never actually
• 33:09
  race. Take a couple weeks off and come
• 33:11
  back and all of a sudden he's a great rider again.
• 33:13
  And me, I got to be sitting here saying, look, man, I'm better
• 33:16
  than all these guys. I was sunning all of them in
• 33:18
  Moto 2 because he was. He was.
• 33:20
  He was murdering them in Moto 2. Well, not only was he murdering
• 33:23
  them, he's he is a Moto GP champion.
• 33:27
  He's got the number one plate sitting in his house on his
• 33:29
  mantle. Like he's got to look at that
• 33:31
  sometimes and be like, you know what, I'm the best guy on the
• 33:34
  Honda. I need to step up and be that
• 33:37
  number one guy. I'm the number one guy on paper.
• 33:39
  But championships aren't one on paper.
• 33:42
  They have to go out. You have to go out there and
• 33:44
  perform. And he's starting to do that.
• 33:45
  And hopefully if he can stay rubber side down, he'll gain
• 33:50
  some more points. I mean, right now he's wearing
• 33:53
  the standings. Is he outside the top ten in the
• 33:55
  overall standings? I'll tell you in a second, hang
• 33:58
  on. I want to say he was like, last
• 34:00
  time I checked, I want to say he was like just outside the top
• 34:04
  ten in the standings. He's in the, he's 15th in the
• 34:09
  standings. So he's still got a ways to go
• 34:12
  to catch Zarko. Zarko is still the top Honda
• 34:15
  rider in the standings. He's #10 and even Marini's in
• 34:18
  front of Johan Meer at this point.
• 34:22
  Yeah, I mean he, he. Might be he could catch Marini
• 34:25
  and he could catch Zarko. Yeah, I was going to say he
• 34:28
  could catch a Zarko. Yeah, he, he, it's possible he
• 34:30
  can catch because Zarko's crashing too.
• 34:32
  So, you know, Zarko's been crashing for, for, for a little
• 34:35
  bit now. So, you know, so anything is
• 34:39
  possible there. Let's talk about KTM.
• 34:42
  You know, it, it's, you know, Bastionini is up and down.
• 34:47
  I, I feel like they need Benialis.
• 34:48
  Benialis is the glue to keep these, these guys steady.
• 34:52
  Cause I, I think, I think Vinyalis knows how to get the
• 34:57
  bike dialed in better than any of the other three riders on,
• 35:01
  on, on on the team. Pedro was close.
• 35:05
  Pedro, I mean, he had a chance. You know, I always said that
• 35:11
  Aldiger was the better rider out of Pedro in him, even though
• 35:15
  Aldiger had to go from the European Championship where
• 35:18
  Acosta just came through Moto 3 and and got the big shine per
• 35:23
  SE. But what are your thoughts, TJ,
• 35:26
  on where KTM is that is, is Acosta doing too much?
• 35:31
  Because you know, he's, he's, he's, he's crashing or trying
• 35:35
  to, you know, win. I mean KTM, I mean, at this
• 35:42
  point, I don't know, since they're up there down, they're
• 35:44
  up there down. Like you said, they do need
• 35:46
  their their glue piece there, the Maverick, you know, to be
• 35:52
  the veteran and kind of show them possibly what's needed, you
• 35:56
  know, But yeah, I think they're they're struggling.
• 35:59
  I think they kind of need a Pedro Costa typewriter.
• 36:02
  Like, you know, someone that's a little aggressive that would
• 36:05
  actually test the limits and and can show you like what's the
• 36:10
  limit and can dial you down a little bit.
• 36:14
  Sometimes there's demeanor, his attitude part needs to change.
• 36:17
  But I think you kind of need an aggressive writer.
• 36:20
  Like, you know, Bashanini is more of like a laid back type.
• 36:24
  I think it's kind of hard to get information out of him.
• 36:27
  I'm not sure how he really speaks to, you know, his boss
• 36:30
  and all that stuff. But, you know, he he doesn't
• 36:33
  really find his way until the second-half of the race.
• 36:35
  And sometimes he's really not around.
• 36:37
  So you need that Pedro to to, you know, keep you afloat and
• 36:44
  keep it exciting. And it was good to see out of
• 36:47
  gear and Pedro bat on each other as they were talking about their
• 36:50
  modal 2 days and stuff like that.
• 36:51
  So you see the future is bright between them two.
• 36:56
  But I think Pedro's as long as he stays more humble and keep
• 37:00
  his his and his his aggressiveness down.
• 37:03
  And when he's in in hot water, don't like, you know, show his
• 37:08
  emotions, just keep him inside and just ride.
• 37:11
  I think it'd be fine, take them. I just, I just don't know what
• 37:15
  they're, what they're really doing.
• 37:17
  I don't know if they're just on a budget.
• 37:20
  Obviously we know what they were going through before all this,
• 37:22
  but yeah, they just can't seem to get it together.
• 37:25
  It's it's not the chain, it's something else.
• 37:28
  And yeah. Right.
• 37:31
  I mean, Reese, I mean, how many, how much time do we do we as
• 37:34
  writers give you all engineers? I mean, you're a writer, but how
• 37:37
  much time do we give you all before we start, you know,
• 37:40
  leaving popcorn in your car and turning the heat off?
• 37:46
  Because KTM, it seems like, you know, they're struggling in the
• 37:49
  second-half of the of, of the races with grip.
• 37:53
  It seems like all the riders, you know, struggle with that.
• 37:56
  And and no matter how they fight, that's that's kind of
• 37:59
  like the Achilles heel. I mean, yeah, it is their
• 38:03
  Achilles heel. I mean, like it.
• 38:04
  Like it. Again, as TJ said, you said it
• 38:08
  seemed like KTM has lost their way and Viniales is that glue to
• 38:14
  actually figure out what the bike needs and how to develop
• 38:18
  that bike. He is that guy because when
• 38:21
  Viniales was there, he was one of the fastest KTM guys out
• 38:24
  there and it was like everybody else was following suit.
• 38:29
  Without him there, no one's there to give any kind of
• 38:33
  guidance. He's like the the OG that knows
• 38:37
  the game, knows how to develop a bike, knows how to set the bike
• 38:41
  up when the tires drop or when the tires are new.
• 38:45
  He knows how they what the bike needs and there's nobody there
• 38:51
  to do that. Acosta just he's pretty much one
• 38:54
  of the young kids that really didn't come through like the 125
• 38:58
  days with the electronics, no electronics.
• 39:01
  I mean, so it's all everything's electronics.
• 39:03
  It's just everything now is just twist the throttle and go for
• 39:06
  the kids nowadays and let the electronics do the rest.
• 39:10
  But it's like with Acosta, he's he's almost like a young
• 39:13
  vanilla. Sometimes he's either there or
• 39:15
  not there. He's a hot head.
• 39:17
  It's like, it seems like a lot of the blame is on the bike.
• 39:21
  Yes, but then it's you, you know, as a rider, you have to
• 39:24
  step back and take the blame for yourself.
• 39:26
  Like I could have did this better.
• 39:27
  I could have did this better or I could have let the tires come
• 39:30
  to, you know, settle myself in and then go hard at the end or
• 39:35
  however you need to do it. But it's just nobody there to
• 39:39
  help with KTM. And it's just like there's
• 39:41
  certain things that it's just, I don't know what mistakes they're
• 39:45
  making. It's like Bassini needs nowhere
• 39:48
  to be found. Chains are popping off.
• 39:51
  I I mean I I'm waiting for plastics to start falling off
• 39:54
  going down the front or wing lifts to fall off.
• 39:57
  Is it time for the CEOCEO to do like the Titans player to say,
• 40:01
  you know, we're we're playing like trash and that's not his
• 40:03
  exact words, but it's the Titans like we're better.
• 40:09
  Than something but. Right now we, we ain't just, we
• 40:11
  ain't there. Yeah, it's, you know, and you
• 40:15
  just, they're not there no more. It's just they're, you know, I'm
• 40:18
  surprised I've seen Brad Bender up there this this this past
• 40:21
  weekend. I mean, I was glad to see him
• 40:24
  there. I mean, Brad Bender is one of
• 40:26
  the guys that's had more chances than anyone.
• 40:29
  I'm I'm like, you should be further along than what you are,
• 40:32
  but he's not. And it's, it's there's, there's
• 40:36
  got to be some kind of revamp in the team itself.
• 40:40
  Right. And, and, you know, I think that
• 40:42
  I think Brad Bender had not necessarily has what Raul has,
• 40:47
  but when Pedro came to KTMI, think that rattled Brad a little
• 40:51
  bit. And, and, and, and I and, and
• 40:53
  he, he, he was just crashing a lot since since, you know, like
• 40:57
  just struggling a lot. And I, and I just wonder if
• 40:59
  it's, you know, sometimes, you know, you know, as when you try
• 41:03
  to stay Switzerland and neutral, if you're a boss and, and you
• 41:06
  got, you know, people that that are looking up to you, you can't
• 41:09
  show favoritism. And you know, if you're all
• 41:12
  extra excited when when one rider's coming in the building
• 41:15
  and you're not as excited as the other when the other rider comes
• 41:17
  in the building and people see that or the rider sees that,
• 41:20
  they're going to feel a way about that kind of things,
• 41:22
  right? Right.
• 41:24
  I mean, I mean, it would rattle anybody's cage when you're the
• 41:26
  old, the, the guy that's been there for a couple of years and
• 41:29
  now you got a new kid that's, you know, making headlines and,
• 41:33
  you know, they're, they're paving the way for him.
• 41:35
  Yeah, that's going to rattle anybody's cage because, you
• 41:38
  know, he, he could take my seat, he could take my job.
• 41:41
  So you're trying to go above, you know, ride almost above your
• 41:45
  head and push it to another limit.
• 41:48
  So that's going to rattles anybody's cage.
• 41:50
  You know there there's only one employee of the month, right?
• 41:54
  Right. That's pretty much it.
• 41:55
  There's only one employee of the month, only one top rider, a A
• 41:58
  rider and AB rider and I don't want to be that B rider.
• 42:02
  No doubt, no doubt, Lewis, man, we're going to we're going to
• 42:05
  keep it moving and, and, and get you in here.
• 42:08
  Yeah. What are your thoughts on KTM,
• 42:10
  what Acosta is doing? Just the struggles.
• 42:14
  I mean, you know, I, I think that Bialis's shoulder is a lot
• 42:17
  more serious. I think Bialis might be done for
• 42:20
  the season. They just don't want to say.
• 42:23
  Yeah, I mean, when when they pulled him out this weekend, I
• 42:26
  mean, that's a long way to fly, to not ride.
• 42:28
  So, you know, I don't know how serious his injury is or how
• 42:32
  it's become or maybe just from the course of riding, if
• 42:35
  something's gotten worse, you know, they typically don't like
• 42:38
  to give too many details, but you know, I, I hate to see a
• 42:43
  rider injured, especially somebody that has the talent he
• 42:45
  has. You know, I, everybody knows I
• 42:47
  think he's a basket case. He's either 100% on or 100% off
• 42:51
  like this. You know, he's a heck Doctor
• 42:53
  Jekyll, Mr. Hyde kind of rider. But for KTM, he's the only one
• 42:59
  that's been doing anything positive this year.
• 43:01
  He kind of put them in a position and gave them some
• 43:03
  setup and gave them some ideas and, and help them find their
• 43:06
  way that I still think they're a little bit lost.
• 43:09
  Obviously you can see it with the up and down season of their
• 43:13
  riders. And you know, at some tracks
• 43:15
  they look great. Most tracks they don't look
• 43:17
  great. One track, one guy looks great,
• 43:19
  the other three look horrible. Like it's, it's a, it's, it's
• 43:23
  really interesting to see a team that technically all the riders
• 43:28
  are on the same bike. They're on the same package.
• 43:31
  They're even in the same damn suits.
• 43:33
  You know, even though they're on two different teams, there are
• 43:37
  technically four guys racing for a factory team pretty much.
• 43:41
  And to see four guys struggle like that is crazy.
• 43:47
  You know, especially, you know, thinking about, I mean, Pedro
• 43:50
  Costa hasn't been with them too long, but, you know, we know
• 43:53
  that the talent that he is, Vinales hasn't been, you know,
• 43:57
  this is his first year with them, but we know the talent
• 44:00
  that he is. I think the only person that's a
• 44:03
  real question mark on that team is Brad Bender.
• 44:06
  I think Brad Binder just kind of leads to look in the mirror and
• 44:08
  decide do I want to keep riding for this team or do I?
• 44:11
  When this contract is up, do I really, is it time for me to
• 44:14
  move on? Is it time for me to look for
• 44:16
  another team to ride with? Because I think he's kind of
• 44:19
  gotten to as far as he's going to get with KTMI.
• 44:22
  Think the bike and him this is as far as they're going to get
• 44:24
  unless the bike does some some incredible jump in technology in
• 44:28
  the next 24 months. Bad Bender needs to sit down,
• 44:32
  look in the mirror and say, hey, do I want to be the perennial
• 44:35
  KTM guy for the rest of my life? Be that loyal always with the
• 44:39
  team. You know, once I retire, maybe I
• 44:41
  become a test rider, I become a brand ambassador or something
• 44:44
  like that. Or am I here to try to win?
• 44:46
  Am I here to try to get a number one plate and hanging in my
• 44:49
  house or or am I content with just riding around for 11th
• 44:53
  place for the rest of my life? All right, it's only Brad Pekko
• 44:56
  and Quadrara so far that's been on the same manufacturer since
• 45:00
  they got in Moto GP. Yeah, and we've seen Quadrara,
• 45:03
  you know, he's constantly pushing Yamaha, you know, and I
• 45:06
  and I think he's going to give them one last opportunity.
• 45:09
  But I think come 2027, if that Yamaha is not working the way he
• 45:12
  wants it to work, it's time for him to even start looking in the
• 45:15
  mirror because Honda's outperforming them right now.
• 45:18
  And that's not something that I would two years ago, I would
• 45:21
  have never said that, that Honda's going to outperform
• 45:23
  Yamaha, right, Right. That's crazy.
• 45:26
  Yeah, but let's Speaking of Yamaha.
• 45:28
  I mean, look, man, I I was rooting for this is a good race
• 45:31
  weekend. I'm not going to lie.
• 45:33
  You know, there's something about seeing 6 Ducatis in for
• 45:35
  one through 6. I got to throw that out there.
• 45:37
  But at the same time, it, it was, it was a pretty good
• 45:41
  weekend and I was. And when Renz was out there for
• 45:44
  a little bit out front, man, I'm like, he, he might be able to
• 45:47
  get away. It was like 17 like 7 laps, 7
• 45:50
  laps left, 8 laps left. And he was still competitive on
• 45:54
  that, on that Yamaha. What are your thoughts on Wrens
• 45:57
  that flash? Is it just one of those things
• 46:01
  or, or is he starting to come back into his own?
• 46:04
  I mean, he's not limping as much either too.
• 46:06
  What are your thoughts, TJ on on on on what Yamaha is doing and,
• 46:10
  and how they were and and and be and, you know, being in front of
• 46:12
  Cuatroara too, because that's that's the first.
• 46:15
  I mean, I think I think Rez is just trying to still show that
• 46:19
  he got it, but I don't think he got it anymore.
• 46:22
  I mean, he's still he's still a good rider.
• 46:24
  He's still a good rider. I mean, I know he's hurt.
• 46:26
  He has the broken leg he's trying to recover from for a
• 46:30
  little bit, but he's always been in the back like like the back
• 46:35
  back like the end, you know, So like not even getting any
• 46:39
  points, not even getting any points.
• 46:40
  So like it was, it was shocking to see him in front of
• 46:44
  Quarterano and being in the front and he did it for like you
• 46:48
  know, he did it for like 2 laps maybe.
• 46:51
  And then whatever tired choice he had, I don't know if he ran
• 46:55
  the soft rear, but yeah, just he just slipped down from 1st to
• 47:01
  10th like another two laps. So two or three laps.
• 47:04
  So like it was it was kind of weird, but it was cool to see.
• 47:09
  But yeah, I don't know. I think he's just still trying
• 47:11
  to show that he has it and don't give up on me kind of kind of
• 47:15
  thing. But I don't know what else he
• 47:18
  can prove. Like if it if he has a good
• 47:20
  package through when you see him back in the top ten.
• 47:23
  I don't know. Right, right.
• 47:25
  Yeah, I agree. I I don't, I don't, I don't know
• 47:27
  that either. What are your thoughts Theresa
• 47:29
  on Yamaha, what rinse did I think?
• 47:31
  I think he had the soft tires, pretty competitive and nice to
• 47:36
  mix it up with the KTM, you know.
• 47:40
  What are your thoughts? Where the hell did he come from?
• 47:43
  That was my question. I'm just keeping honest.
• 47:46
  I was like, where the where the hell did you come from?
• 47:48
  That's where was that all year long and and everything else.
• 47:52
  But like, like TJ said, I mean, it's almost like he's just
• 47:55
  trying to to prove a point that he still got it, which I don't
• 47:59
  think he's still got it. I think he's one of the guys
• 48:01
  that it's like it's it's time to look in the mirror for him and
• 48:07
  and say, Hey, I don't have it anymore.
• 48:11
  If this injury took it out of me, can I still do this at this
• 48:16
  high of a level? And, you know, is it time for me
• 48:20
  to move on to green of pastures or a super bike or something
• 48:24
  else or anything like that? But it's just I mean, that was
• 48:27
  great to see him up there finally.
• 48:28
  I mean, that was that was something different.
• 48:31
  But I mean, just it's almost like the same thing as Pekka.
• 48:35
  What Pekka did the last race? I mean, it's once in a blue moon
• 48:38
  that you do it. I mean you can't just say I'm
• 48:40
  going to do it one time here and 20 more times not.
• 48:45
  I mean you've been back there for the whole season fighting
• 48:47
  with guys in in 15 place and in the last place and you've been
• 48:52
  like the worst Yamaha rider all season.
• 48:55
  So you know me, I'm like great, you did it.
• 48:59
  It was good to see you up there. But you know, is it a little too
• 49:03
  late so. A little too late.
• 49:08
  What are your thoughts, Lewis on on on Rin's Yamaha, Did they
• 49:15
  switch bikes? Because, you know, we saw Peko
• 49:17
  tried more with Deli's bike in the test and so forth.
• 49:23
  Do you think like, you know, like TJ is saying or Smitty has
• 49:27
  said, these, these guys need to be out of Moto GP if they keep
• 49:30
  finishing at 15th or it's just, it's just giving him time to to,
• 49:35
  you know, to sort out the bike and.
• 49:37
  Also. The Yamaha is not the best bike.
• 49:40
  I don't want to hear nobody disrespecting Sideshow Bob, all
• 49:43
  right? The Sideshow Bob Moto GP You
• 49:46
  better need put some respect on his name, right?
• 49:48
  I agree, my daughter's a big fan of Rin's.
• 49:53
  I I'm a big fan of Rinz. I've always loved his riding
• 49:55
  style. He's got that smooth, silky
• 49:57
  smooth riding style like that, just fast corner speed, almost
• 50:01
  like Jorge Lorenzo ish riding style.
• 50:05
  And and he's very upright like whereas other guys are leaning
• 50:08
  and dragging elbows. If you look at him, he's a
• 50:10
  little bit more conventional in his upper body riding style.
• 50:15
  But I do think that whatever this injury is that's been
• 50:17
  nagging him, this leg injury, I think it's taking a lot longer
• 50:21
  for him to heal. And it might just be that, you
• 50:23
  know what, man, I don't bounce as as much as I as easily as I
• 50:27
  did when I was a kid. You know, he's not a kid
• 50:29
  anymore. He's a little bit older, he's a
• 50:30
  married man, he's got kids and it's just taking him a little
• 50:33
  bit longer to heal. And I'm hoping, praying that he
• 50:36
  continues to heal and he can come back and be as competitive
• 50:40
  as he can be for the package he's on, because on another
• 50:43
  package, I think he'd be even more competitive.
• 50:46
  I don't think that the guy is has lost any skill.
• 50:49
  I don't think he's lost anything.
• 50:51
  I think he's just been injured and he's not on a great package
• 50:54
  and he just has to work around what he's got.
• 50:56
  You know, don't go out there killing yourself.
• 50:59
  Don't do a Mark Marquez if the bike's not underneath you to to
• 51:02
  to to do anything worth doing. Right.
• 51:06
  I, I, I agree there. I, I think that Renz is again in
• 51:10
  Moto 2, he was killing these guys and you know, and you know,
• 51:15
  on the Suzuki, he was nice. I mean, I know Mayor won, but he
• 51:18
  was nice. He was nice.
• 51:20
  Man, silky, silky. I mean, I still think back to
• 51:25
  that one race in Silverstone. Where he?
• 51:30
  Where he overtook mark on the very last call.
• 51:32
  I mean he shot that Suzuki out of that corner like it was shot
• 51:35
  out of a cannon man and I was just like that's that's
• 51:40
  impressive. I like that like that was
• 51:43
  definitely the day that I was like wow man, this dude's got.
• 51:46
  I always knew he had skill back from the Moto 2 days and and
• 51:50
  it's time in Moto GP. But you know, I, I just hope
• 51:53
  that he can get over whatever injuries he has.
• 51:55
  I hope whatever package Yamaha rolls out next year is even 5%
• 52:01
  better than this year. So they get out of that, you
• 52:04
  know, seller that they're in right now because the only
• 52:06
  manufacturer worse than them right now is KTM in my eyes.
• 52:10
  And that's not good company to have.
• 52:12
  You know, the only company that's worse than you is one
• 52:14
  that's almost out of business. That's not where you want to be.
• 52:17
  No at all at all, which is which is and it's not good for, you
• 52:23
  know, you got top rock coming in and stuff like that.
• 52:26
  So you definitely want to you know, obviously, you know, we
• 52:30
  need we know all the manufacturers are doing
• 52:32
  everything to to get better, right.
• 52:35
  So I'm not going to sit here and say not doing it, but it is
• 52:37
  tough when when they struggle and it's tough arises to keep
• 52:41
  the confidence. Anything you guys want to touch
• 52:44
  on before we can talk about Miller, but anything you want to
• 52:47
  touch on before we talk about a little bit about Motor Moto 2
• 52:51
  and what's going on there I. Think that's it for for GP.
• 52:57
  All right. I think that's it.
• 53:00
  Was it was great. It was great to watch races
• 53:02
  though, right? I mean, it was it was good
• 53:03
  racing that you know, good, you know, good passing.
• 53:05
  Altiger was on fire, Altiger winning.
• 53:08
  And, you know, Pedro hasn't done it.
• 53:10
  And, you know, as a rookie, Aldigir did it and that's huge.
• 53:14
  I mean, I, you know, that's, that's kind of, I mean, I'm glad
• 53:17
  we didn't brush off it. You know, the second youngest
• 53:21
  rider to do it. Does does this kind of like make
• 53:25
  you? And I guess it's more rhetorical
• 53:27
  for me. I don't know if it's I, I, I
• 53:29
  overlook all the shenanigans he's done in Moto 2 and when he
• 53:33
  first got to Moto GP and stuff like that.
• 53:36
  But what are you guys thoughts on Al de Gear winning the the GP
• 53:40
  race? I mean, I, you know, we all you
• 53:42
  got, you got to show up, you got to finish.
• 53:44
  But obviously it might have been different if Bez was was was up,
• 53:48
  kept it up on two wheels. But you know, for him to fight
• 53:51
  against Acosta, who was hungry, Raul was hungry, Renz, everybody
• 53:55
  was hungry, Goes once they saw Marquez and and and Bez go down,
• 53:59
  you know, everybody was trying to get in the club door first.
• 54:03
  And I mean, it is, it is good to see this guy finally, finally
• 54:08
  get on top, you know, podium. And I could just think it back
• 54:12
  when we talked to Eli on the show, he was ruled for out again
• 54:16
  to finally get a podium and he finally got it.
• 54:18
  You know Eli Eli already. Text me.
• 54:24
  But you know, it is so close to beating, you know, or getting
• 54:29
  past Mark Marquez's record for being the youngest rookie in the
• 54:33
  Sprint. I think it was or I don't know
• 54:36
  if he did pass it, but yeah, so absolutely congratulating.
• 54:42
  It does now show why Ducati chose him so early.
• 54:46
  He's very smart, just found his way.
• 54:48
  He didn't really kind of like jump into it and and try to just
• 54:53
  throw it out the window at first.
• 54:55
  It took him a little while to get it under his belt and he's
• 54:58
  been a little more consistent as of late, but this was well
• 55:02
  deserving and and what better chance when you know these guys
• 55:05
  go down. It's like you got to fulfill
• 55:07
  your opportunity when it defends itself and and to show the pace
• 55:12
  he had in the Sprint. I mean, I knew in the GP it was
• 55:15
  going to be another fight with him, so it was just fortunate
• 55:20
  for him that he didn't have Bezeki and Mark behind him, but
• 55:24
  it was good to see him pull it out.
• 55:27
  Right, right. What are your thoughts, Reese,
• 55:29
  on what Acosta did? I mean Aldegir did I mean, and
• 55:34
  in magnificent fashion too. Over 5 seconds.
• 55:38
  He he seems like he's he seems like he he's he's like, you
• 55:43
  know, as we were talking off air, like Bobby Fong is is, you
• 55:47
  know, you know, bended to go home, right?
• 55:49
  He, he, he's full gas and, and he, he doesn't have a take it
• 55:53
  easy button. And, and, and I, you kind of see
• 55:56
  that on Saturday, on Sunday and you see when he crashes out.
• 56:00
  I mean, yeah, you do see it. I mean, like, I remember back in
• 56:02
  a couple shows ago, I remember Lewis said it once this kid
• 56:07
  figures out how to go as fast on new tire, on brand new tires
• 56:12
  when they are used, he's going to be dangerous.
• 56:15
  And what he just showed in this race was what he is capable of
• 56:21
  doing. And it shows the level of talent
• 56:23
  that is in Moto GP, but it also shows a level of respect or
• 56:29
  who's in front of Bazecki and Marquez.
• 56:32
  Because it was almost like sharks in the water.
• 56:36
  Like the chum went in the water. And soon them two went out.
• 56:39
  It was like the dinner bell went off.
• 56:41
  Hey, we can finish from first. And everybody went full gas.
• 56:45
  So to to know that, you know, this kid can actually win and,
• 56:52
  and do what he did when Marquez is in there, it shows that he's
• 56:57
  he's ready to step up and come up the level, you know, later on
• 57:01
  and give him a couple more, a little more time and he's going
• 57:04
  to be there. Like I said, he's he can be a
• 57:07
  dangerous person once he figures out the new tires and do the
• 57:11
  same thing on worn down tires. Yeah, I, I agree, Lewis, man, I,
• 57:17
  I'll, before you talk about Furman, it seems like Acosta was
• 57:22
  listening to us because he kept that train pretty slow.
• 57:25
  I don't know how he did it when he kept that train pretty slow
• 57:29
  to keep all those guys in the mix.
• 57:31
  But, you know, touch on that a little bit on Acosta's ability
• 57:35
  to do that, but also what Furman has done as, as the youngest
• 57:39
  guy, because I mean, he already had the factory contract.
• 57:41
  He had the factory contract before he rode AGP bike.
• 57:45
  He kind of cruised in the, the, you know, his second year in, in
• 57:49
  Moto 2. I, I didn't think it was a good
• 57:51
  look for, for the team he was on.
• 57:53
  But obviously, you know, Ducati knew what they were doing and it
• 57:56
  seems like they got it figured out.
• 57:58
  I mean, there's a, there's a couple of different questions
• 58:00
  and to, to, to recap on that. So I mean, Acosta, we, we know
• 58:05
  that the KTM in a straight line is the fastest bike.
• 58:09
  So if you could slow everybody in the corners and then get on
• 58:14
  the gas, it's going to be real hard to pass because you got the
• 58:17
  fastest bike. You know, they got to get a
• 58:19
  drive out of the corner. If you're screwing up
• 58:20
  everybody's drive like somebody else.
• 58:28
  You know, it's hard to pass a bike that's got a lot of grunt
• 58:30
  when you can't get any head of steam underneath you to actually
• 58:33
  past it. So, you know, Acosta was riding
• 58:36
  a smart race. And but we saw what happens when
• 58:40
  a guy that doesn't have pace gets passed by a guy that does
• 58:43
  have pace. It quickly becomes very, very
• 58:47
  visually stunning how much pace that person didn't have.
• 58:50
  And what they were doing was they were trying to ride an
• 58:53
  intelligent ride, to ride around the problems they were having on
• 58:56
  the bike. But again, once Furman got out
• 58:58
  front, I mean, a 5 second lead in Moto GP is a 5 second lead,
• 59:02
  especially for your first race win.
• 59:04
  Because you got to think about it when you start, when you got
• 59:06
  8 laps left and you're in the lead, you're thinking about just
• 59:10
  hitting your apex, hitting your corners, hitting your markers.
• 59:12
  It's not when you're done at 3 SEC, 3 laps left, you start
• 59:16
  thinking, oh shit, I might win. And that's where you start
• 59:20
  making these mental mistakes in those last three, two laps.
• 59:23
  That's when mental mistakes come in, especially when you got a
• 59:25
  lead like that. And he was able to manage it.
• 59:27
  He gave up a little bit of the lead in the last like lap or two
• 59:31
  just because he knew he had in his pocket.
• 59:33
  So he was pushing like 95% instead of 100%.
• 59:36
  And he was able to bring it home, man.
• 59:38
  And I've been saying for a while now that this kid, this kid was
• 59:41
  the truth. And he finally, you know, proved
• 59:44
  me right. You know, he was able to put the
• 59:45
  beginning of the race together with the end of the race and
• 59:48
  race a complete race and benefit from the ties when they're
• 59:52
  fresh, when the ties when they were worn.
• 59:54
  And and one last thing, I mean, this is this.
• 59:58
  Here's another Spaniard man. And this Spaniard is in the the
• 1:00:02
  MMM 93 Academy. He's part of the Marc Marquez
• 1:00:05
  Bros and the Marc Marquez Bros seem to be kind of touching a
• 1:00:11
  lot of guys in different classes that are from Spain that are
• 1:00:16
  kind of like getting underneath the Marc Marquez umbrella and
• 1:00:21
  learning from the Marquez brothers.
• 1:00:22
  And if you look at, you know. Other winners that won this
• 1:00:26
  weekend, these are again, guys from Spain that are very close
• 1:00:29
  to the Marquez brothers. So without having an official
• 1:00:33
  Marc Marquez Academy, it almost feels like Marc Marquez is
• 1:00:35
  starting to put together a little Spanish mafia of his own
• 1:00:39
  to go up against the Italian mafia.
• 1:00:41
  I I. I agree.
• 1:00:43
  I, I, I agree for sure. And on don't that note, you
• 1:00:47
  know, let's talk about Moto 2. Diego Marira.
• 1:00:52
  Yeah, impressive. I mean, you know, I think he
• 1:00:55
  might have one of the most impressive resumes coming into
• 1:00:59
  Moto GP, even though it hasn't been officially announced yet.
• 1:01:03
  But it seems like he's going to be on LCR next season.
• 1:01:07
  What are your thoughts on on how he's riding and how he's doing
• 1:01:11
  and who Gonzales getting disqualified?
• 1:01:15
  Are we are we getting a little bit too ridiculous with
• 1:01:17
  software? What are your what are your
• 1:01:20
  thoughts, TJ? Yeah, man, Diego, Diego's
• 1:01:24
  definitely riding great. And then it's just leading this
• 1:01:28
  championship up to a great finish.
• 1:01:31
  And yeah, he's only down 9 points and this is just a good
• 1:01:36
  ride. He's been riding really well
• 1:01:38
  like the race before he got on the podium.
• 1:01:41
  So I'm very excited to see what he can do for the rest of the
• 1:01:44
  season and for for next year if he does get that, see if that's
• 1:01:48
  true as far as the software goes, like I'm still confused on
• 1:01:54
  that. I think we was chatting about
• 1:01:55
  this, you know, out there, But you know, it's just like, I
• 1:02:00
  don't know if they're trying to get an advantage for like the
• 1:02:03
  the the tech guys, you know, because they know they're riders
• 1:02:06
  in in a championship contending moments.
• 1:02:10
  And I, I, I just don't know, like if it's a certain track, if
• 1:02:13
  it was a whoopsie, if it was like, I don't know, but it
• 1:02:18
  sucks. And you kind of ride now you you
• 1:02:20
  lose a lot of points now. Now you put your championship at
• 1:02:24
  stake. So we'll see what they can do
• 1:02:28
  next round. You know, now Aaron Connett, I
• 1:02:30
  don't know where he came from, but now he's kind of back in
• 1:02:33
  contention for the championship as well.
• 1:02:34
  So but yeah, that's like the second time we heard that this
• 1:02:38
  year. I think the last one was with
• 1:02:40
  Ayer Gore and the track house team.
• 1:02:43
  But obviously it has nothing to do with the rider.
• 1:02:46
  I just don't know behind the scenes like exactly what what
• 1:02:50
  the software really means if it has to be track by track or
• 1:02:55
  yeah, so still confused on that, but it's interesting.
• 1:02:58
  But I'm sure they won't do that again because they have 3 rounds
• 1:03:02
  left. Right, right, Reese man, I mean,
• 1:03:06
  how, how does this work with the software?
• 1:03:09
  Every every whoever pulls the the short straw goes in at night
• 1:03:12
  and do the upload. No, I know the software is
• 1:03:17
  usually done by track by track, I mean they usually kind of if
• 1:03:22
  it's every year, they kind of use the same like baseline setup
• 1:03:26
  from that track from last year. And it kind of just, you know,
• 1:03:30
  you kind of use that base that's like a baseline and then you can
• 1:03:33
  kind of use that and and kind of go from there to see where
• 1:03:37
  you're at and kind of tweak and tune from there.
• 1:03:40
  But I mean, sometimes these guys just a ride, like I said before,
• 1:03:44
  rider always swears he knows what he wants and he wants to
• 1:03:46
  put this in and it kind of gets lost in the software when they
• 1:03:50
  try to go so much and do so much and it kind of just gets messed
• 1:03:53
  up. And then by the time you get
• 1:03:56
  into it, it's too late and it's race time and it's all said and
• 1:04:00
  done. It's, you know, somebody wants
• 1:04:04
  every turn is good, but hey, turn 6, it's I need a little bit
• 1:04:08
  more traction here. But then when you put that
• 1:04:10
  traction in turn 6, now you messed up 789.
• 1:04:14
  So, so you know. It's not something where there's
• 1:04:18
  like two different version of something.
• 1:04:20
  It's just more the configurations in the software
• 1:04:22
  that people make that makes it non homologated in, in in in
• 1:04:27
  Gonzales instance or is it like separate software well.
• 1:04:31
  Sometimes you can do different software.
• 1:04:33
  You can do a map A map B depending on what the the data
• 1:04:37
  guy your, your, your engineer puts in there.
• 1:04:40
  So it's different, different map settings you can put in.
• 1:04:43
  But usually with the map settings, one is for dry, one's
• 1:04:46
  for wet, less power depending on what how they set it up.
• 1:04:51
  So if you're in a dry setting and you want maximum power,
• 1:04:54
  you're probably going or you have a setting probably for
• 1:04:57
  fresh tires and a map setting for the tire settings when they
• 1:05:01
  drop off. So it just you don't want to
• 1:05:04
  keep and you put the wrong setting in there while you're
• 1:05:06
  riding in your, you're kind of up shit's Creek without a paddle
• 1:05:09
  now, so. So you're saying that it's the
• 1:05:11
  writer's fault the software is wrong?
• 1:05:14
  Sometimes, sometimes it could be, it could be a setup error.
• 1:05:19
  It could just, it's just or it's not the communication.
• 1:05:21
  There's communication errors. It's like I'm saying one thing,
• 1:05:25
  but you, I really mean this. So what you told your crew
• 1:05:29
  chief, he's telling he's doing what you told him, but it's not
• 1:05:33
  y'all, y'all not matching up. OK, all right, I see that.
• 1:05:38
  Let's let's bring Lewis in. I know Lewis got got got a lot
• 1:05:41
  to add. What you thought the?
• 1:05:44
  Numbers, man, that's all me so as as the only.
• 1:05:49
  There has to be a button that says you know that don't enable,
• 1:05:53
  right? As the only Spanish speaking
• 1:05:56
  person on the pod today, I actually went into Spanish
• 1:06:02
  Sports Channel to try to get a little bit more information
• 1:06:04
  because the information on Moto GP was very generic.
• 1:06:08
  And what the Spanish media is reporting is that he was
• 1:06:12
  disqualified because he had a previous version of the software
• 1:06:16
  that's no longer homologated uploaded to his ECU.
• 1:06:19
  And that previous version of the software allows for more
• 1:06:22
  parameters that are no longer allowed to be modified with the
• 1:06:26
  current new homologated version of the software.
• 1:06:30
  So he had a little bit more up, up, down, down, left, right,
• 1:06:33
  left, right than anybody else because the previous version of
• 1:06:36
  the software had additional parameters that are no longer
• 1:06:39
  allowed to be modified in the new version of the software.
• 1:06:43
  So this isn't something that the writer did.
• 1:06:46
  This is something that a data guy or the team manager was
• 1:06:49
  like, hey, we're having some problems.
• 1:06:52
  If we upload this old software, we can fix these couple of areas
• 1:06:57
  where we're having problems because the parameters no longer
• 1:07:00
  exist. So let's see how it looks on the
• 1:07:02
  old software. Ah, it looks good in the old
• 1:07:04
  software. Oh, it looks better than a new
• 1:07:06
  software. When I turn around, you might
• 1:07:11
  hit the enter button. Turn around.
• 1:07:14
  Don't tell me what you did. So did did did they say that in
• 1:07:17
  Spanish? That part.
• 1:07:18
  They didn't say that in Spanish, but they were.
• 1:07:20
  The Spanish media was very, very pessimistic that it was an error
• 1:07:26
  because it was an error that benefits the rider it it's a
• 1:07:29
  benefit to the team. And you know, obviously it's why
• 1:07:33
  do you even have the old version of the software in there?
• 1:07:36
  I mean, I can understand you having it there, maybe to
• 1:07:39
  compare the data between this year and last year to try to see
• 1:07:42
  how to fix the data to be a little bit more in alignment.
• 1:07:46
  But then you're going to overwrite the software that's in
• 1:07:49
  the ECU with this software knowing that the version number
• 1:07:53
  is going to upload. I mean, you, your data guy, you
• 1:07:55
  know what happens when you upload a patch, It automatically
• 1:07:58
  has the patch history, automatically has what the build
• 1:08:01
  number is. And if this is something that
• 1:08:03
  Moto, you know that Moto GP goes through all the bikes and checks
• 1:08:07
  this. They do this because they want
• 1:08:09
  to make sure there's parity, especially in that particular
• 1:08:13
  Moto 2, because it's, it's all about parity there.
• 1:08:15
  Everybody has the same motor, everybody has the same tires.
• 1:08:18
  You know, you can do a lot of change with the chassis, but you
• 1:08:20
  at least want to have a base setting that everybody has to
• 1:08:23
  work from, right? And if you have that extra
• 1:08:25
  advantage, it is an extra advantage.
• 1:08:27
  Right and and it's something we we, we may not know cuz is it
• 1:08:30
  every bite get tested or is it random?
• 1:08:33
  Cuz if it's random then you know they might.
• 1:08:36
  Luck of the draw. He could have been using it for
• 1:08:38
  for, for a lot of different races whenever he had problems.
• 1:08:41
  Yeah, it's, I mean, I, I would like to say it's something that
• 1:08:44
  they probably do at the tech inspection after the race
• 1:08:47
  because they obviously they check the fuel after the race,
• 1:08:51
  they check the ECU after the race and there's probably a few
• 1:08:53
  more things just for the homologation to make sure that
• 1:08:56
  they check in the post race inspection.
• 1:09:00
  We see that in Motor America. We see that everywhere after the
• 1:09:02
  race. All the bikes go into the tech
• 1:09:05
  garage and it's run by the organization and they check, you
• 1:09:09
  know, fuel and this and that. And you know, Reese will tell
• 1:09:12
  you, I mean, there's been guys in Motor America that have been
• 1:09:15
  found to have non homologated fuel because they use the
• 1:09:18
  container that was contaminated with a different type of fuel.
• 1:09:24
  All of a sudden they do a fuel check and now the fuel is not
• 1:09:27
  100% your fuel and you get DQ D or you get points or something
• 1:09:30
  like that. So sometimes there are small
• 1:09:32
  errors that can happen, but an ECU error, I mean somebody
• 1:09:35
  physically has to hit the enter button and upload that software.
• 1:09:39
  Right. Unless it normally is a random
• 1:09:41
  check, normally is random checks or it's like the first three
• 1:09:44
  guys or whatever they want to do and it just hey, we want to
• 1:09:48
  instead of doing a normal check, they want to go a little deeper
• 1:09:51
  and dive in fuels and Pistons and stuff like that.
• 1:09:55
  Or somebody protests, somebody says, hey, you know what, man,
• 1:09:58
  this, this guy seems to have a little too much hot sauce going
• 1:10:01
  down that front straightaway. I mean, we're supposed to all be
• 1:10:03
  on the same bikes, but he, it seems like he got a little bit
• 1:10:06
  extra check his fuel, check this, check that.
• 1:10:09
  And then all of a sudden, you know.
• 1:10:12
  Could be a protest I I was. Going to bring that up, Yeah.
• 1:10:16
  Because it could be a protest, because, I mean, we could do
• 1:10:18
  that at club level. So, you know, yeah.
• 1:10:21
  I never did that. I never did that.
• 1:10:24
  The fact that you. Said.
• 1:10:28
  I never, I never had his motor torn down.
• 1:10:33
  Yeah, don't think about that, right?
• 1:10:37
  Of course not, not, not. We don't.
• 1:10:39
  We don't do whatever it takes to win.
• 1:10:41
  No, never, never, never ever did that fucked up somebody's whole
• 1:10:45
  weekend. I would, I would.
• 1:10:50
  No. And it's tough for his
• 1:10:51
  championship, right? I mean, I think he was
• 1:10:53
  struggling a little bit, but he would have saved his
• 1:10:55
  championship. But now he gets no points.
• 1:10:59
  Yeah, now, now it's a nine point difference.
• 1:11:02
  Now it's, you know, one race, one mistake.
• 1:11:05
  I mean, it's the difference between first place and 3rd
• 1:11:07
  place. He loses the this point
• 1:11:09
  standing. You know, the one thing in this
• 1:11:12
  series that I'm kind of confused about is, you know, at the
• 1:11:14
  beginning of the year, you know, everybody was super high on Jake
• 1:11:18
  Dixon and you know, he's kind of been struggling.
• 1:11:22
  And I think now that he's got a ride elsewhere, I think he's
• 1:11:25
  just riding out this season just to get the hell out of Moto 2.
• 1:11:28
  It that's kind of what I'm seeing.
• 1:11:30
  I, I don't see him having the urgency that he had earlier in
• 1:11:32
  the year. And then Aaron Connett, I mean,
• 1:11:37
  you know, the, the, the lifetime Moto 2 rider.
• 1:11:39
  I mean, he doesn't. He doesn't have a ride yet for
• 1:11:42
  next year. He does.
• 1:11:44
  He has he? Oh yeah.
• 1:11:45
  He's switching, he's switching. He's.
• 1:11:47
  On Cassini. Yeah, yeah, like I said, man,
• 1:11:50
  Lifetime Moto 2 rider. Yeah, yeah, no.
• 1:11:53
  And but he's one of the few lifetimers.
• 1:11:55
  You mean you got Jake Robertson there, You got Dixon, you got
• 1:11:58
  Kinet. I mean, who else we got that's
• 1:12:01
  that's kind of. And those are the Ogs.
• 1:12:04
  Yeah, What's his name? Lopez.
• 1:12:07
  You know, these, these, and, and it's, it's, I mean, it's, we
• 1:12:10
  talk about the, the, the closeness of, of the race, but
• 1:12:14
  these guys are so up and down throughout the season.
• 1:12:18
  You know, where it's kind of like the, everything has to be
• 1:12:21
  right for them to, they either win or they're struggling.
• 1:12:24
  Where you see a lot of these younger guys, maybe some of most
• 1:12:27
  of them coming out of Marc Marquez's camp these days.
• 1:12:29
  They seem to get every, they keep getting better and better
• 1:12:33
  every round. They're not like they're not
• 1:12:35
  kind of, it's not like, you know, the, the top five one
• 1:12:38
  round and then the top, the bottom, you know, 5, the next
• 1:12:41
  round kind of thing that's progressively getting better
• 1:12:44
  and, and coming towards the top. Have you guys noticed that?
• 1:12:47
  Yeah, no, I, I see the younger guys as time goes on, becoming a
• 1:12:52
  little bit more proficient and getting better and better.
• 1:12:55
  There's a couple of guys now that are, I think going on to
• 1:12:57
  their second or third year in Moto 2 and, and they're starting
• 1:13:01
  to worry me because they showed a lot of brilliance in Moto 3
• 1:13:04
  and now in Moto 2 they've kind of seem to be topping out.
• 1:13:07
  So either they need to switch teams and look for new people
• 1:13:11
  around them because the equipment is very, very close,
• 1:13:14
  you know, minus the the chassis. But you know, I, I look at
• 1:13:18
  somebody like an Azan Guevara, you know, in Moto 3, killer
• 1:13:25
  killer. And now he's in Moto 2 and you
• 1:13:28
  know, he's with Tony Avellino and both them seem to struggle
• 1:13:31
  on that same team. You know, it's like that team,
• 1:13:34
  for whatever reason, can't put it together.
• 1:13:36
  And it's not like these two guys can't ride, man.
• 1:13:38
  These two guys can ride so. Is it is that sometimes like
• 1:13:44
  stardom though, you know, is it like, you know, you, you get up
• 1:13:47
  there and now you're, you're, you're more known and stuff like
• 1:13:50
  that. And you just as a as a young
• 1:13:52
  kid, just having a little bit more fun because, I mean, do you
• 1:13:56
  really just think it's just a team?
• 1:13:58
  It's a combination. Sometimes it's a team and
• 1:14:01
  sometimes it's a rider. Sometimes it's both.
• 1:14:04
  You know, a good team will keep a not so good focused rider
• 1:14:08
  focused and but a good rider on a not so good team can't make
• 1:14:14
  the team necessarily better. You know, if the team is is
• 1:14:17
  capped out and, and so I'm going to say it's, it's 80% on the
• 1:14:23
  rider to know what he's doing and 20% percent on the team to
• 1:14:28
  make sure they have the right rider.
• 1:14:30
  Because you can take the not right rider and make them look
• 1:14:32
  good. You know, you can make them
• 1:14:33
  better, but you can't take a bad team and make the team better
• 1:14:36
  because as a rider, what input do you have other than I need
• 1:14:39
  more grip, I need this, I need that the team sucks and can't
• 1:14:42
  give you anything because they just don't have the technical
• 1:14:44
  knowledge or know how or just support people to make it
• 1:14:48
  happen. You know you're stuck.
• 1:14:49
  You're stuck on a bike and you're getting paid, but you
• 1:14:51
  know you're stuck in 18th place every weekend, no matter how
• 1:14:54
  good rider you are. Yep.
• 1:14:57
  Good analogy, man. All right.
• 1:15:00
  I've been around a while. That's why he's OG.
• 1:15:07
  OG. They had Phillip.
• 1:15:09
  Phillip Next next round or? Is it?
• 1:15:15
  We got we got two weeks off. I think it is Phillips, I think
• 1:15:19
  it is Australia next round. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:22
  I think it's like 2 weeks off right?
• 1:15:24
  Yeah, we got Australia, Malaysia and then Portugal.
• 1:15:28
  That last year at the Phillip Islands when Bazaki and Maverick
• 1:15:33
  crashed in Turn 1 and then like, what is it?
• 1:15:38
  Turn two or three is like always, bites a lot of riders
• 1:15:41
  too, so it's going to be an interesting race.
• 1:15:43
  I mean, the thing with Australia that's always interesting is the
• 1:15:46
  weather, man. It's either.
• 1:15:47
  It's either lava. It's right on the water.
• 1:15:50
  It's raining. You can.
• 1:15:52
  See waves crashing in the background.
• 1:15:54
  Or or the wildlife or the. Wildlife.
• 1:15:56
  Yeah, boy, get hit by get hit by a seagull.
• 1:16:00
  Or kangaroo. Or.
• 1:16:01
  Wallaby, OR. Whatever red flag for animals.
• 1:16:08
  I think it's one of the most exciting tracks because it's a,
• 1:16:11
  it's a speed track. It's got a couple of places
• 1:16:13
  where you really got a bonsai. It's got some elevation changes.
• 1:16:18
  You know, the last few years, as far as I remember, they've been
• 1:16:21
  exciting races that have come down.
• 1:16:23
  To like the last couple of. Corners or the last few laps
• 1:16:26
  hasn't been somebody getting out front and just walking away from
• 1:16:29
  everybody. And then after that we go to
• 1:16:32
  Malaysia, which that's a great track, but that's another lava
• 1:16:36
  track, man. Anybody that's is always 105
• 1:16:39
  degrees, 100% humidity and then we back, you know back in Europe
• 1:16:46
  for the what is it the last two rounds?
• 1:16:48
  Yeah, Portugal and Valencia. Yep.
• 1:16:52
  Portugal might have might have something really, really
• 1:16:55
  interesting for people to see. OK.
• 1:16:59
  That's all I'm going to say. All right, all right.
• 1:17:02
  You're going. To be there and interviewed.
• 1:17:05
  No, no. But there might be there might
• 1:17:08
  be a a possibly be a a new. Something.
• 1:17:13
  Something on No. Team out there?
• 1:17:16
  No, no, no. A new product.
• 1:17:18
  OK all. Right out.
• 1:17:20
  There all right, well, we're looking forward to it.
• 1:17:22
  All right, fellas. Well, I appreciate you guys
• 1:17:25
  coming on. It was a great weekend this past
• 1:17:28
  weekend, Reese, have fun over in Europe.
• 1:17:31
  You know, come back in one piece.
• 1:17:37
  I'll try man. No doubt TJ with two wheels and
• 1:17:42
  coffee. The real Luis Ortega, the
• 1:17:44
  numbers guy. Peace, Peace.