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  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, man, if you just go to at Rose
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  Speaker 3: It's really fun, man.
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  Speaker 1: All right, sounds good? Well, we wanted to dive into
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  Speaker 1: some NFL talk and some storylines as this NFL season
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  Speaker 1: is almost upon us here, and of course we got
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  Speaker 1: to get into the Philadelphia Eagles right off the bat.
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  Speaker 1: This team the defending Super Bowl champions, Tony, and as
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  Speaker 1: Jillen Hurts has said though in the past here and
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  Speaker 1: more recent past, that super Bowl is in the rearview
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  Speaker 1: mirror and we need to start looking at and concentrating
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  Speaker 1: on this twenty twenty five twenty twenty six season here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so used to using the phrase We're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to temper our expectations for this coming season, Tony. I
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  Speaker 1: do it all the time. We've been doing it for
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  Speaker 1: years and years, right, But I feel like we don't
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  Speaker 1: need to temper our expectations given this team's winning identity
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  Speaker 1: right now at this point. Yet, Yet I do feel
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  Speaker 1: there are some areas of this team where we need
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  Speaker 1: to be cautious when it comes to some of those expectations,
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  Speaker 1: mainly with the cornerback room and even to an extent
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  Speaker 1: where the pass rush is going to take this defense
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  Speaker 1: this season. So those are my thoughts right here. What
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  Speaker 1: are your thoughts Tony about some of the quote cautious
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  Speaker 1: aspects of this team as we're moving forward here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I listen.
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  Speaker 2: It's easy to just say we're gonna be okay, right exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I get it. But this is such a deep team, man.
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  Speaker 2: Like every position, and I know people want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about the secondary.
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  Speaker 3: I get it. However, I'm not as worried.
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  Speaker 2: About the secondary everybody else wants to be right, because
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  Speaker 2: what team has a stud at every single position? Somebody's
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  Speaker 2: going to have to step up eventually, right Like last year,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't know Zach Bowm was going to be Zach Baum.
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  Speaker 2: We had no idea before he got injured. Kobe Dean
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  Speaker 2: was going to be to Kobe Dean. We didn't know this, right.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't know Jaylen was going to come on at
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  Speaker 2: the end. We didn't know Josh Schwett was going to
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  Speaker 2: be Josh Swett. So I'm not as concerned front of
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  Speaker 2: running back from the cornerback room as everybody else. I listen,
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  Speaker 2: when you have Kesean Mitchell, right, when you have Q, listen,
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  Speaker 2: that guy is an absolute stud. If you go back
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  Speaker 2: in the history of NFL when you usually have a
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  Speaker 2: stud like a Rebus Island, you know the guy. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: he does get targeted on the other side. But my
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  Speaker 2: biggest thing is I just want veteran leadership, and I
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  Speaker 2: do think that Dorr Jackson will give you that. Maybe right,
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  Speaker 2: I don't listen. I'm not talking about his play. Was
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  Speaker 2: talking about his leadership. And I do think that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the mix and mingle of certain guys. Maybe it's mc
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  Speaker 2: williams that they drafted the fifth round, right, Maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: Bennett that they get. I don't know, but I think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be a work of progress, and I
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  Speaker 2: think it'll probably be until like week five or six
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  Speaker 2: till we actually get that position settled.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking right after the second preseason game, to
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  Speaker 1: be honest, Tony, that a Dori Jackson was playing his
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  Speaker 1: way off the team. That was initially my thought really,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean the initial signing, I was kind of
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  Speaker 1: I hate to use the word baffled, because it's not
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  Speaker 1: that I was baffled, because we know Howie Roseman does this.
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  Speaker 1: He wants to see how coachable these guys really are
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  Speaker 1: able to be year after year, and especially with Vic
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  Speaker 1: Fangio coming in and doing what he did last year,
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  Speaker 1: there's absolutely no reason to believe that some of these
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  Speaker 1: guys can be coached up too. When it came to
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  Speaker 1: a Dori Jackson though, after that second preseason game, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I don't know about this. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: know about this here.
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  Speaker 3: It's tough, you know it is.
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  Speaker 2: But what I will say is I think the biggest
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  Speaker 2: the biggest thing that baffles me is the Isaiah Rodgers thing.
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  Speaker 2: I just it's a great you know that that money
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  Speaker 2: was not a lot, right, He's a guy that knew
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  Speaker 2: the system and you went out, you still spent money
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  Speaker 2: on other positions.
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  Speaker 3: Like I don't Again, I'm not in a room. We
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  Speaker 3: don't know what happened.
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  Speaker 2: But I still think that Jackson on this team, with
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  Speaker 2: this culture, he can be serviceable. Not gonna be great,
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be very inconsistent, but I think it
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  Speaker 2: can be serviceable.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Very good. Well. I do want to stick
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  Speaker 1: with the theme in terms of the NFC East as
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  Speaker 1: we're moving along here, because when it comes to this
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  Speaker 1: division to really trying to analyze what we're gonna see
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  Speaker 1: this year, I do feel like the commanders are going
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  Speaker 1: to take some steps back. I think we've seen in
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  Speaker 1: this league over the years, Tony, where when you have
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback, this happened with Jalen Hurts, certain teams quote
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  Speaker 1: figure you out. I think with Jaden Daniels, I think
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  Speaker 1: we may see that with the Commanders, they may take
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  Speaker 1: a step back offensively due to that perhaps. And yet
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  Speaker 1: I feel like with regard to another team here in
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  Speaker 1: the NFC East, Krescott, I think he's gonna have something
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  Speaker 1: to prove. Now can he actually do it, that's another thing.
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  Speaker 1: But he's one of those Okay, we got to prove
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  Speaker 1: it year after year after year, and Dak Prescott is
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  Speaker 1: not a terrible quarterback by any stretch of the imagination. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the Dallas Cowboys, we don't know necessarily
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  Speaker 1: what we're gonna see from them. I do feel the
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  Speaker 1: Giants they are gonna be the Giants and are gonna
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  Speaker 1: giants their way throughout this season. But how do you
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  Speaker 1: really feel about this NFC East Division? I mean, should
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles fans, should we all be concerned with any
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  Speaker 1: aspects of this division with opposing offenses or defenses here?
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 3: It's really tough to say no.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest, it's it's really really tough
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  Speaker 2: because every we know the commanders are to be commanders
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  Speaker 2: right exactly. And I get your point that they may
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  Speaker 2: take a step back, but whatever you have, Dan Quinn,
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  Speaker 2: and you know whether Jadon Daniels takes a couple steps
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  Speaker 2: back or no, sophmort slump. Who knows that kid's talented
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  Speaker 2: and so just looking at that Arry McLaurin as we
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  Speaker 2: as we go, breaking signs and extension. So he's going
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  Speaker 2: to be there, right. So I look at that team
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  Speaker 2: as a whole, and I'm like, they're always going to
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  Speaker 2: be there. I think that the Cowboys are done. Like
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm a big guy. Has nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with talent. I just think the circus, I think the
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  Speaker 2: body language, the culture.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's a ship.
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  Speaker 2: Sticks, it sticks, it does, and I look at it
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, how can that team really get on
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  Speaker 2: the next level? And then they bring in a guy
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  Speaker 2: in George Pickens who's not a great teammate. So here
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  Speaker 2: just killed the culture even more. I will tell you this,
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  Speaker 2: I am intrigued by the Giants. I know a lot
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  Speaker 2: of we're gonna say I think they played very good
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  Speaker 2: defensively last year. Dable, whether he's with the Giants after
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  Speaker 2: this or not, he's he's coaching for his next job.
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  Speaker 2: And whenever you get a guy that's smart like Dabel
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  Speaker 2: and he is respected no matter what you think, their
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  Speaker 2: defense played really well, that could be a team. And
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  Speaker 2: if Jackson Dark comes out after Week five, it takes
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  Speaker 2: over to that role.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what could be some Fountain youth.
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  Speaker 1: Energy and Tyron Tracy. Tyron Tracy coming out of the backfield,
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  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, a sleeper player in this division,
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  Speaker 1: for sure.
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  Speaker 3: He's been.
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  Speaker 2: He's on six out of seven of my fantasy football teams. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because I love what he can do.
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  Speaker 1: Seven. Man, I thought my six fantasy teams was ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. You've got seven, I've
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  Speaker 1: got six. Oh fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I wanted to stick with the NFC theme here, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like the NFC North is going to
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  Speaker 1: be an interesting division in many different ways. One, we
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  Speaker 1: keep waiting for the Bears to make some sort of waves,
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  Speaker 1: to make some sort of noise. I think this year
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  Speaker 1: they could. Now are they going to get into the playoffs?
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  Speaker 1: And be successful potentially getting there. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: Part of me doubts that, but I am interested in
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  Speaker 1: what their play is going to be like on both
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  Speaker 1: offense and defense. I do think the Packer may be
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  Speaker 1: a better team this year, and the Lions, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe in flux because they lost some of their coaching
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  Speaker 1: staff during this offseason. So I'm wondering, how are you
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  Speaker 1: viewing this NFC North Division. I think it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a fantastic division to watch and follow.
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  Speaker 3: I think it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's goba be like old school and North Football man like.
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  Speaker 2: And and you make a good point about the Lions
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  Speaker 2: because they lose both their coordinators.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, and that's not easy. We know that in Phildelpa.
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  Speaker 2: That's not easy to recover from right, and there's a
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  Speaker 2: learning period that comes along with that. So I take
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  Speaker 2: a step back a little bit on on the Lions.
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  Speaker 3: I really do.
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, I look at the Packers as
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  Speaker 2: great coach. No matter what we think about of his
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  Speaker 2: opinion at a touch push, he is still he's off
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  Speaker 2: that McVeigh tree. Yeah, he is the coach, right, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just questioning Jordan Love. I don't think we're in love
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  Speaker 2: was where he should have been last year. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what it was. It kind of bothered me. I
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  Speaker 2: love the Bears. You know, I was not a Ben
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  Speaker 2: Johnson guy until I watched his first press conference, until
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  Speaker 2: I start following that team, and this guy is an
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  Speaker 2: offensive mastermind and what he's doing out there. All you
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  Speaker 2: have to do is follow King and understand just how
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  Speaker 2: they are rejuvenated out there. I mean, cool man that
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  Speaker 2: the guy, original guy ever Fleus was a stiff. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I he terrible, And now you get this guy who
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  Speaker 2: was just call and plays out of his back pocket.
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  Speaker 3: I'm intrigued. I like the Bears a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the Bears a lot too. We didn't
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  Speaker 1: mention the vikings. I'll tell you right now. JJ McCarthy,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest fan of him. I didn't think
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  Speaker 1: he was a great, great quarterback coming out of Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I followed his career being a you know,
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  Speaker 1: being a Penn State alum, following a lot of what
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  Speaker 1: happened in the Big Ten during the course of his
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  Speaker 1: year coming out. I don't I don't think JJ McCarthy
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  Speaker 1: is going to be the type of quarterback it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be able to take Minnesota Vikings to the Promised Land
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  Speaker 1: at all, Tony, I don't think that.
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  Speaker 3: I agree. That's why I passed on Johnson Jefferson. Yeah, fancy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I know he's a start, but I don't trust the guy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I like Capit O'Connell too, but I just I'm just
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  Speaker 2: so surprised at teams like this.
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  Speaker 3: They just go so weak at quarterback. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 3: understand it. I don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's bizarre for sure. Well again, folks, we're talking
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  Speaker 1: get back, we're gonna dive into some AFC talk here.
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  Speaker 3: All right, sound good?
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  Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take that break now. We'll be
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  Speaker 1: back in just a bit, folks. All Right, we are
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  Speaker 1: back with our good friend Tony Katil here from the
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  Speaker 1: Tony Catillo Show. And as we're moving along with this
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  Speaker 1: conversation here and moving into now the AFC, what we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be seeing from certain teams, certain storylines here, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I want the Bills to be the team
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  Speaker 1: that makes it to the Super Bowl to face the
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, if that's both teams destinies this coming year, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills to me are so interesting watching
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  Speaker 1: them on Hard Knocks as of late, because there's still
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a top contender in the AFC. But like
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  Speaker 1: outside of Josh Allen, I feel like this team is
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  Speaker 1: just not the most talented team in the world, yet
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  Speaker 1: they are resilient. They come together to play every single
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  Speaker 1: game they've got. You know, Sean McDermott as the coach
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  Speaker 1: who is institute of this culture up there, at least
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, this is what I see so I'm wondering,
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  Speaker 1: where do you see the Buffalo Bill's fortunes taking them
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  Speaker 1: this season? And why?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, First of all, I'm going to say I was
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  Speaker 2: I was a McDermott guy, and so he came out
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  Speaker 2: about the touch pust and now I want to paunch.
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  Speaker 3: Him in the mount. I do hope that we get
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  Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: We could do that, right, yes, but all kid aside,
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  Speaker 2: I actually disagree. I think at the Buffalo Bills have
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  Speaker 2: one of the most lethal offenses that people are completely overlooking.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at what they did last year. James
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  Speaker 2: Cook had a career. They signed on an extension Ray
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  Speaker 2: Davis when he filled in four James Cook unbelievable. Right,
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  Speaker 2: we already know about josh how you have Dalton Kka,
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  Speaker 2: one of the most athletic tight ends. He just hasn't
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  Speaker 2: clicked yet. It's not kind of like Kyle Pitts. Everybody's
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  Speaker 2: waiting for Dalton kk to just take that next step, right,
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  Speaker 2: But then you have key On Coleman who's on the
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  Speaker 2: second year. You have Khalil Shakir who's on a third year,
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  Speaker 2: and then you bring over Joshua Palmer. Uh, you know
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  Speaker 2: from the Chargers who's been having an insane can.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you forget about Palmer. Sometimes folks do.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So you have four weapons out there, and I just
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  Speaker 2: look at this team and go, you know what, man,
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  Speaker 2: you got a really good kicker and Tyller bass and
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  Speaker 2: you just look at everything that they have done as
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  Speaker 2: a whole.
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen just continues to excel.
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  Speaker 2: It's all gonna be on his shoulders because he does
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  Speaker 2: have moments where he's not great with the football right,
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  Speaker 2: and he does have moments where he takes upon himself
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  Speaker 2: a little too much.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: So I think if he can just garner that back
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, Pulwan takes the next step. I think,
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Man Shakier Shaquire, he can catch
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  Speaker 2: a hundred balls this year. Yeah, I think man so
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  Speaker 2: important to that offense.
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  Speaker 3: Man. I think people are overlooking the Bills.
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  Speaker 1: I genuinely think this could be a Bill's Eagle Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl this year.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: It would be so fun and entertaining, It would be
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  Speaker 1: so fun, absolutely all right, moving along here to the
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  Speaker 1: next topic I wanted to dive into with you, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: We know that there are some teams who definitely had
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  Speaker 1: stinkers of an offseason, and we've certainly seen it during
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: the course of these preseason games. Just various storylines as well,
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  Speaker 1: some teams made some mind boggling decisions. I'm wondering for you,
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  Speaker 1: which team do you think had the worst off season
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  Speaker 1: as it pertains this coming season, but even within the
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  Speaker 1: foreseeable future, you know, within these next couple of years
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  Speaker 1: and seasons as well. I'm going with the Pittsburgh Steelers
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  Speaker 1: because of what they've done and not done with the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback position. I think from a receivers standpoint, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you had a culture in Pittsburgh for a while where
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  Speaker 1: receivers really were the end all be all for quite
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  Speaker 1: some time. And maybe I'm getting old thinking about those
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  Speaker 1: days with Antonio Brown and thinking about just so many
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  Speaker 1: Santonio Holmes like those guys. I know it's been a while. Yes, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: even from a running back position, they've always kind of
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  Speaker 1: been strong, and I just feel like this organization has
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  Speaker 1: done a terrible job for themselves, not just this offseason,
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  Speaker 1: but into the future as well. I mean, is there
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  Speaker 1: a team for you that you're just scratching your head,
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  Speaker 1: being like, you know what they made some mind boggling
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  Speaker 1: decisions this offseason.
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  Speaker 2: And they're just it's a shame because I actually this
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  Speaker 2: team are going to say I really like their coach,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's the Browns man like I like
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Fans. I think he's done more with nothing than
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  Speaker 2: probably any other coach in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: But this team just the quarterback position, like.
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  Speaker 2: Are you really you're you're strutting out Joe Flacco like
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  Speaker 2: and it's still you know, I still look at this, Jeff,
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  Speaker 2: and it's still the haunting of Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield
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  Speaker 2: continues to haunt the Cleveland Browns because if you don't
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  Speaker 2: have a quarterback, you don't have a team. And I
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  Speaker 2: look at what they did this here again, they draft
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  Speaker 2: the kid at running back because Nick Chubb obviously with
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: the knee, he goes to Houston. But you draft the
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  Speaker 2: kid who got domestic abuse issues. Now right, we don't
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  Speaker 2: know where that's going to go. And then do you
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  Speaker 2: take Stor Shanders? Uh? You take Dylan Gabriel, kid who
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: can't even get on a field down that you took
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  Speaker 2: over Sanders. Sanders looks like he's going to have to mature.
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  Speaker 2: Were there you're going to Joe Flatty. You pay all
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  Speaker 2: the money to Watson like Jeff, This team, to me,
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  Speaker 2: it just breathes a loser like and it's a shame.
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  Speaker 2: But they're not gonna win for the next three to
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  Speaker 2: five years easy, So it's just, you know, it's mind
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  Speaker 2: boggling to me. And I feel beg because I do
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  Speaker 2: love having Spains.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think I think they've had a good
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  Speaker 1: defense too over these years too. We've seen it. We've
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  Speaker 1: seen it.
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  Speaker 2: Ball's Gyro that man, Yes, yes, obviously he wanted the money, absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: Hobby look it out.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's bizarre. It must be bizarre to be in
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  Speaker 1: some of these guys shoes where it's like, man, do
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  Speaker 1: I take that money knowing that I Am probably never
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  Speaker 1: going to get to that level that I want to
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  Speaker 1: get to, to win a Super Bowl, to even maybe
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: get to an AFC or NFC title game, But I
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: would rather take the money, like I couldn't imagine being
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: in that situation because of the game.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Part is the worst part is, you know, don't DeVante
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Adams at either you went to Vegas to take the money,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: you do the team was going to suck? Yeah, now
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: sudden I want to go win somewhere. Oh no, no,
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  Speaker 2: you got paid, bro, that's what you want it right right?
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  Speaker 3: I look at that like that's so hypocritical. It really is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, buddy, before I let you go, want to dive
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: into we love talking about under the radar storylines here,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you know, whether it's hockey, baseball, basketball, now with the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: NFL here, so I'm wondering, what is what is that
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: one under the radar storyline heading into this NFL season
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: with the NFL in general, that's really gonna be on
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: your mind that you're really gonna be honing in on.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: People are gonna love this, Pattie.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: It's a revival of Chip Kelly. I am telling you
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: right now, Schip Kelly and Pete Carroll in Vegas. I
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: am so excited to see what they do. And again,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: you know, Chip Kelly swallows a pride, goes to the
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: college ranks. But whatever, right, you can do whatever you
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: want about the guy. He knows how to utilize an offense.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: And if you look out there again, you got a
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: guy Gino Smith.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: I got it, Pee Caroll.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Trust I'm telling you right now, every single one of
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: my fantasy teams I have Geno Smith.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I have Jacoby Myers.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Right, you have brock Powers, you have Mike Meyer who's
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: actually getting a lot of Look, Chip Kelly is gonna,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: you know, Ashton Genty like you're You're gonna look at
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: this team and Chip Kelly is gonna put his imprint
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: on this offense where people are going, wow, what has.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Happened in Vegas?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: May not win a lot of games this year, right, however,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: they're gonna put up some points and they're gonna be exciting.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: So I am very interesting and not enough people talk
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: about Jeff that is talking about it. They're really not
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: that and I think it will be called week six
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  Speaker 2: or seven.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: You heard it here, folks from Tony Katillo.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: That to love that. But I'll hey, I am a
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Chip guy. I'm always going to be a Chip guy
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: when it comes to offense.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, folks again, he is Tony Katillo from
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• 19:51
  Speaker 1: watching us or listening to us on right now, Buddy,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: get some promos out before we head out here. And uh, man,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time. Get the promos out.
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  Speaker 2: Man, no problem, man, listen at Tony Catillo Show. I
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  Speaker 2: do that Wednesdays and Sundays, Unfiltered Philly Sports on Filter
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  Speaker 2: with Me and Tom Moren on at D Radio. And
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: then also I got my podcast Fighting for Overtime. You're
• 20:14
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• 20:17
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• 20:21
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• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Awesome, fantastic, fantastic man. We've talked to you sports on
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  Speaker 1: this show a lot, man, and keep doing good stuff.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Keep doing good stuff over there, and Buddy, come back
• 20:31
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• 20:33
  Speaker 1: on the show down the road.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: All I have to see about week seven May Week
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: seven we could talk about the Vegas you know, the
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: And Jake Kelly. That'd be great, good bad on my prediction.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: It sounds good, my man. We'll we'll talk soon for sure.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 20:46
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