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How to reclaim the magic of summer, according to Gretchen Rubin · Silver FM 100.6

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  Speaker 2: Wherever you get your podcasts. I tend to romanticize summer,
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  Speaker 2: or at least I have in the past, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that's in part because of movies and TV shows
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  Speaker 2: that were on when I was growing up and in
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  Speaker 2: high school. Is this idea that, like, you were supposed
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  Speaker 2: to go somewhere, maybe far flung for a couple of
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  Speaker 2: months and completely transform, probably have a whirlwind romance, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: just come back renewed like a totally different person. And honestly,
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  Speaker 2: I have never had a summer like that. It's hard
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  Speaker 2: to live up to that. For me. My fantasy is
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  Speaker 2: more modest.
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  Speaker 4: But it's just the idea that somehow this summer is
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  Speaker 4: going to stretch out empty and full of just time
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  Speaker 4: to feel as I like the way it was when
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  Speaker 4: I was in fourth or fifth grade.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it does go back to childhood because
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  Speaker 2: I was wondering, like, where does this really stem from?
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  Speaker 2: This idea of summer as if it stands apart?
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  Speaker 4: You know the school calendar. Yeah, yeah, Hey.
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  Speaker 2: It's Mary el Sagara. You're listening to Life Kit from NPR.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember when summer meant something? When it felt special,
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  Speaker 2: The long days stretching into weeks, the feeling that there
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  Speaker 2: was more time and more possibility than at any other
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  Speaker 2: point in the year. Our guest today, Gretchen Rubin, has
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  Speaker 2: a plan to help you reclaim that feeling. Gretchen is
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  Speaker 2: a writer. You might know a few of her books,
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  Speaker 2: like The Happiness Project or her podcast Happier. She's also
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  Speaker 2: been on Oprah, and she's a pro at helping people
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  Speaker 2: create meaning from their life experiences. She says, now is
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  Speaker 2: the time to think intentionally about how to make the
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  Speaker 2: most of your summer before it slips away.
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  Speaker 4: So often that summer just flies by and we haven't
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  Speaker 4: taken the picnics, are gone for the day trip or
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  Speaker 4: whatever it was that we thought we were going to do,
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  Speaker 4: because it passes so quickly. I think we do have
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  Speaker 4: this romantic idea of what summer can be. But if
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  Speaker 4: we don't design our summer to hold that it's not
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  Speaker 4: going to happen on its own. That's something that if
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  Speaker 4: we really want it to happen, we have to plan
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  Speaker 4: for it. And like there's something about the fact that
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  Speaker 4: it's just this one season. I think that little bit
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  Speaker 4: of time pressure is actually useful for us because it
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  Speaker 4: gives you that feeling of like, well, I better do
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  Speaker 4: it now, and I need to make a plan now
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  Speaker 4: because otherwise this time is just going to slide by.
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  Speaker 4: Things that can be done at any time are often
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  Speaker 4: done at no time, and so by saying I want
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  Speaker 4: to get it done, this summer can be useful, gives.
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  Speaker 2: It a container, gives it a container exactly. On this
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  Speaker 2: episode of Life Kick, Gretchen and I talk about how
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  Speaker 2: to plan the summer you want, whatever that looks like.
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  Speaker 2: We talk about picking a word as you're guide, creating
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  Speaker 2: a bucket list, sticking to a challenge, and more. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to start though with the word. Gretchen says, one
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  Speaker 2: way to design the summer you want is to give
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  Speaker 2: it a theme. This is takeaway one. Pick a single
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  Speaker 2: word or phrase that you want to embrace this season,
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  Speaker 2: something that captures the feeling you want to have or
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  Speaker 2: whatever you're seeking over the next few months.
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  Speaker 4: So it could be adventure, it could be relaxation. When
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  Speaker 4: you look at people's one word themes, they're often opposite,
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  Speaker 4: like some people will pick more and then some people
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  Speaker 4: will pick less, and some people will pick now, and
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  Speaker 4: some people will pick weight, and some people pick bigger
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  Speaker 4: and some people pick smaller. It's all what you want,
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  Speaker 4: and part of the fun of it is coming up with, well,
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  Speaker 4: what is the theme.
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  Speaker 2: That is going to really please you?
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  Speaker 4: Like mine is ketchup, because I think ketchup is like
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  Speaker 4: a superfood. It has all five of the basic pace, sweet, sour, salty, bitter,
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  Speaker 4: and new mommy, which is extremely unusual. And it has
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  Speaker 4: a kind of a summer feeling because you think of
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  Speaker 4: putting ketchup on your burger or and there's something kind
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  Speaker 4: of whimsical about catchup. It's really just like look for
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  Speaker 4: the whimsy, look for like whatever I can add that's
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  Speaker 4: going to make something elevated and more fun.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, ketchup is a metaphor.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it's a metaphor for me. It's the symbolic idea
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  Speaker 4: of adding ketchup.
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  Speaker 2: Question, are you also trying to catch up on things
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  Speaker 2: this summer well, very well played.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even think of that, and that is so
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  Speaker 4: good because that is one thing I try to do
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  Speaker 4: in this summer. Because one of the things that is
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  Speaker 4: true of the summer is it includes July second, which
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  Speaker 4: is halfway day, and halfway day. We're halfway through the year.
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  Speaker 4: So if there have been resolutions that you've made or
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  Speaker 4: goals that you've wanted to achieve, it's good to stop
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  Speaker 4: July second and think, Okay, am I on track? How
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  Speaker 4: am I doing? Do I need to find a different approach?
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  Speaker 4: Do I need to re engage with this? Do I
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  Speaker 4: want to give it up? Have I decided that actually
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  Speaker 4: this isn't something that I want to pursue. Do I
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  Speaker 4: want to mindfully abandon it? That's a good strategy if
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  Speaker 4: something isn't working out, So catch up on July second.
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  Speaker 2: Perfect. Hmmm. I do love a wordplay, so.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a love a wordplay.
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  Speaker 2: I was an English major. Okay, were you also an
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  Speaker 2: English major? Yes? I was. As people are trying to
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  Speaker 2: come up with their theme, I mean, what advice do
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  Speaker 2: you have for them in brainstorming that?
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  Speaker 4: Think about what is the atmosphere you want to create
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  Speaker 4: or what is it that you want to point yourself
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  Speaker 4: to and then think of, like, what is a word
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  Speaker 4: like a creative, interesting word that has a lot of energy,
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  Speaker 4: and you want to think of a word that really
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  Speaker 4: does have like resonance. Like my sister basically one time
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  Speaker 4: wanted to have resilience, but oh my gosh, right, like
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  Speaker 4: we've all heard that word so many times, a heavy word,
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  Speaker 4: it's tired. So instead she picked bounce and the idea
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  Speaker 4: of like bounce back, bounce into the future, have energy
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  Speaker 4: and like it's a quirky, whimsical, memorable word, but it
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  Speaker 4: really captured the idea of what she wanted, which was resilience.
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  Speaker 4: So sometimes it is fun playing with what are the
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  Speaker 4: words that attract you that stand for the idea what
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  Speaker 4: you're trying to capture from this season, we'll have more
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  Speaker 2: this episode. I also have been trying to think about
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  Speaker 2: in terms of this what summer truly lends itself to,
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  Speaker 2: because I think we do we want it to do
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  Speaker 2: a lot, and maybe we're unrealistic about what we can
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  Speaker 2: get done, but also what are the opportunities, the realistic opportunities.
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  Speaker 2: And for me, I think it's like looking at the
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  Speaker 2: pleasures of the season, like a juicy ripe peach, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like eating a peach often over the sink so it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't drip fall down my face on my clothes, or
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  Speaker 2: wandering in nature, or watching the sun rise or sunset,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the longer days, allowing yourself leisure rather than
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  Speaker 2: rushing around from one thing to the next. To me,
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  Speaker 2: summer is about slowing down.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and that's a really good thing. Maybe that would
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  Speaker 4: be your one. Your phrase would be slow down or
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  Speaker 4: take your time, something that would capture the idea of
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  Speaker 4: settling into an experience. There is something about the longer
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  Speaker 4: days that just feels like you do have more time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe it also lends itself to exploration. And then
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  Speaker 2: also maybe it's abundance. Maybe juice is my word. Ooh,
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  Speaker 2: I like that word.
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  Speaker 4: That's a juicy word.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because like even just the fruit that are available
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  Speaker 2: in the summer, yes, are so very summary. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: just like squeezing the juice out of it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're squeezing the juice out of the summer. But
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  Speaker 4: then you're also enjoying the juicy tomato, the juicy peach. Yeah. See,
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  Speaker 4: that's a perfect example. It's a very summer word. But
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  Speaker 4: this is why I think it's so helpful to think
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  Speaker 4: about it in advance, because if you don't think about it,
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  Speaker 4: the whole summer could go by and you haven't had
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  Speaker 4: a single peach. As much as you love them, it
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  Speaker 4: just there was never the opportunity when you're like, now's
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  Speaker 4: the time, and if you haven't thought about the fact
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  Speaker 4: that it's something that is meaningful to you. It just
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  Speaker 4: might slip by and then they're not in season, and
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  Speaker 4: then you've missed your opportunity. Whereas if you design it
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  Speaker 4: into your summer, then you can really make sure that
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  Speaker 4: it happens and you really have that enjoyment.
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  Speaker 2: That's another takeaway from Gretchen. Take away too. Come up
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  Speaker 2: with a bucket list of things you want to do
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  Speaker 2: this summer. Maybe you want to try kayaking, or see
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  Speaker 2: the sunset at least once, ride the ferris wheel at
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  Speaker 2: a summer fair, or make a tomato tart. You might
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  Speaker 2: even put something on there that you don't necessarily want
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  Speaker 2: to do but you've been trying to cross off your
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  Speaker 2: list for a long time, like cleaning out the garage.
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  Speaker 4: Or like, I'm a very fearful driver, and the more
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  Speaker 4: I drive, the more comfortable I am. But because I'm fearful,
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  Speaker 4: I often don't want to drive. So this summer I
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  Speaker 4: really saying. And I live in New York City, so
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  Speaker 4: I don't have a lot of opportunities to drive up,
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  Speaker 4: but I vowed anytime I have a chance to drive,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to drive. This doesn't make my summer more
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  Speaker 4: fun because I'm a fearful driver, but it makes it
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  Speaker 4: feel very satisfying because I'm working on something that I
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  Speaker 4: really want to tackle.
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  Speaker 2: But it could be.
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  Speaker 4: Something like fifty summer walks or ten new chicken recipes.
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  Speaker 4: Having a bucket list of things that you want to
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  Speaker 4: try really can make sure that those things get tackled,
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  Speaker 4: even if it's as simple as like a backyard picnic.
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  Speaker 2: How many things do you think one can reasonably put
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  Speaker 2: on a summer bucket list.
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  Speaker 4: Some people love a long list with a lot of
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  Speaker 4: easy things to cross off. I'm kind of a big
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  Speaker 4: fan of that approach myself. Some people like fewer things
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  Speaker 4: that are more ambitious. It's really whatever works for you.
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  Speaker 4: But I think you want to be realistic with yourself
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  Speaker 4: because sometimes it's easy to get discouraged if you set
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  Speaker 4: the bar too high, and then you feel like you've
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  Speaker 4: let yourself down. So pick the things that are really
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  Speaker 4: important to you and really try to follow through with those.
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  Speaker 2: Another idea takeaway three is to come up with some
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  Speaker 2: sort of challenge. Gamify your to do list a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to try ten new taco joints
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  Speaker 2: or eat it every diner in the neighborhood. Or read
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  Speaker 2: five romance novels this summer.
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  Speaker 4: People are so creative with this. I mean like Friday
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  Speaker 4: Freaky Flavor, where it's like every Friday they went to
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  Speaker 4: the ice Cream Story and had a Freaky Flavor. And
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  Speaker 4: it's like if you had Friday Freaky Flavor all summer long,
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  Speaker 4: that would really stand out in your mind for that summer.
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  Speaker 4: Right years later, you'd be like, oh, that's the summer
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  Speaker 4: when I discovered, you know, creamed corn ice cream. Sometimes
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  Speaker 4: they're really meant to help us explore, like many people
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  Speaker 4: do challenges related to I'm going to do ten new
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  Speaker 4: hikes or I'm going to try six new exercise classes
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  Speaker 4: to get out of my rut and see if there's
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  Speaker 4: a new kind of exercise that I would enjoy. Sometimes
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  Speaker 4: they're a challenge where it's really something that's difficult that
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  Speaker 4: you really are saying to yourself, Okay, I'm really going
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  Speaker 4: to do this, and I know that it'll make me
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  Speaker 4: happier in the long run, even if it's a challenge
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  Speaker 4: that I don't enjoy. Many adults do not know how
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  Speaker 4: to swim, and this is something that, in my observation,
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  Speaker 4: kind of weighs on them. So maybe this is your
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  Speaker 4: summer when you're going to take swimming lessons and really
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  Speaker 4: learn how to swim, even if that's something that's scary
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  Speaker 4: to you. Maybe this is your summer of dentists or
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  Speaker 4: doctor's appointments, where you're like, Okay, I've got a little
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  Speaker 4: bit more free time. Let me make some appointments that
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  Speaker 4: I've been putting off because I know in the end
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  Speaker 4: it's going to make me feel better to get these
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  Speaker 4: things done, but I need to get kind of work
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  Speaker 4: myself up to it. One of my challenges is to
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  Speaker 4: watch Girls. I've never seen the TV show Girls, and
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  Speaker 4: I want to just like.
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  Speaker 2: Do it. Prepare to be uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I know that's sort of what I've heard, but
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  Speaker 4: people say it's so good. So I'm thinking, okay, well,
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  Speaker 4: summer's passing. Maybe I just sit down and just watch
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  Speaker 4: a lot of girls.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a good idea to have some summer
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  Speaker 2: pursuits that are indoors, because sometimes it is unbearably hot
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  Speaker 2: outside in the summer, and I think there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of pressure to be outside all summer because it's like
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  Speaker 2: I've waited all year for this, but when it's one
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  Speaker 2: hundred degrees I don't want to be outside.
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  Speaker 4: Right, So maybe you have hobby summer and you're like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to experiment with renew hobbies or I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to knit something or build somethings, or maybe it's experimenting
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  Speaker 4: with like learning to make homemade ice cream or making
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  Speaker 4: homemade bread or something where you'd come out of the
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  Speaker 4: summer feeling like, oh wow, I really like I really
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  Speaker 4: learned something or did something. I'm playing scrabble with your
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  Speaker 4: family every you know, every night after dinner or something
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  Speaker 4: like that to give it a special flavor.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, after the break, we soak in the summer through
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  Speaker 2: our senses.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Takeaway four is to experience the summer through
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  Speaker 2: your five senses and then reflect what does summer look like,
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  Speaker 2: smell like, taste like, sound like, and feel like.
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  Speaker 4: Our five senses are so important and I think this
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  Speaker 4: summertime is a time where we really think about our
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  Speaker 4: five senses a lot. There's something like just very vivid
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  Speaker 4: about summer. And you can do a five census portrait
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  Speaker 4: either of your summer or of a specific adventure you
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  Speaker 4: had in your summer. Like let's say you took a
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  Speaker 4: family trip and you could do this by yourself, or
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  Speaker 4: you can do this with a group of friends or
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  Speaker 4: with your family and you just go seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching.
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  Speaker 4: So let's say you went on a July camping trip
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  Speaker 4: with your family. You'd say, okay, what were the five
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  Speaker 4: most notable sights that we saw? And then you would
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  Speaker 4: talk about, okay, well what like, oh, that was the
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  Speaker 4: time we saw the bear eating out of the trash
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  Speaker 4: can and we like we almost ran got right.
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  Speaker 2: Up on him.
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  Speaker 4: That would be something that you saw, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's one thing to look at photographs, but
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  Speaker 4: that's just very flat. But a five senses portrait really
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  Speaker 4: like puts you back into that experience. But maybe it's
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  Speaker 4: for your whole summer. Like what you know, is it
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  Speaker 4: the smell of sunscreen? Is it the smell of chlorine?
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  Speaker 4: Is it the smell of hot dogs, Is it the
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  Speaker 4: smell of cotton candy? Is it the smell of freshly
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  Speaker 4: cut grass? Like, for you, what is the smell of summer?
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  Speaker 4: So this can be a really creative, fun way to
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  Speaker 4: look back on summer and capture the memories that you've created.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that idea, and I'm sure people could
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  Speaker 2: get really creative with it in terms of I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to make it into an actual portrait, like I'm gonna,
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  Speaker 2: you know, illustrate it, or yeah, absolutely whenever it is.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask a question for the parents out there, because,
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  Speaker 2: especially if you have kids in the house, you're not
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  Speaker 2: just planning your summer for yourself, You're also planning for
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  Speaker 2: them and for your family as a whole. And so
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  Speaker 2: I wonder how can you get their input about what
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  Speaker 2: they want their summer to be like, but also make
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  Speaker 2: it something where you're meeting your needs as well well.
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  Speaker 4: I think that is a great idea, which is to
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  Speaker 4: sit down and think, like, as a family, how do
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  Speaker 4: we want to design our summer? What does everybody want
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  Speaker 4: from it? And I think sometimes for ourselves and for
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  Speaker 4: our children, we tend to overschedule and there's sort of
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  Speaker 4: a feeling of like we're rushing from one thing to
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  Speaker 4: another and we don't give ourselves a big margin. But
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  Speaker 4: that is another thing I think to think about as
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  Speaker 4: you design your summer is like what is your pace?
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  Speaker 4: What is your energy level? How crowded do you like
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  Speaker 4: your days to be? Because some people really do love
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  Speaker 4: running from one thing to another and like let's jump
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  Speaker 4: in the car and go here and go here, and
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  Speaker 4: they like that feeling and they like that pace, and
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  Speaker 4: then other people, like there's a quotation from throw where
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  Speaker 4: he said I like a broad margin to my life,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like, I need a broad margin. I don't
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  Speaker 4: like to rush. I like to have a lot of
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  Speaker 4: time in between things. I could spend a whole day puttering.
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  Speaker 4: And my family is kind of the same. So we
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  Speaker 4: take it pretty slow. We don't need a lot of
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  Speaker 4: activities to feel like we've had enough. But for other
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  Speaker 4: people like that pace might be different. And also you
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  Speaker 4: can get into the complication of like some people like
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  Speaker 4: to do a lot, some people want to do less.
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  Speaker 2: But the more you can talk.
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  Speaker 4: About that, the more you can figure out, well, how
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  Speaker 4: do we make this work for all of us?
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  Speaker 2: So this comes up a lot with new Year's resolutions
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  Speaker 2: where you get three weeks into January and you realize
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  Speaker 2: you're not doing the thing, and maybe you don't even
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  Speaker 2: want to do the thing. So what if that happens
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  Speaker 2: in the summer, you know, you set your theme or
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  Speaker 2: your intentions, you make your bucket list, and then you
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  Speaker 2: get to you know, end of July early August, and
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  Speaker 2: you're not doing it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's very common, We've all done it. I'm a
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  Speaker 4: big fan of helping yourself remember what you've set. So
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  Speaker 4: like I have an index card that's on the bulletin
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  Speaker 4: board right in my desk, so I see my theme
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  Speaker 4: every time I look to my right to remind to
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  Speaker 4: keep it uppermost in my mind. And then the same
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  Speaker 4: thing with a list so that I remember what's on
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  Speaker 4: my list. Because sometimes you make even so something's really
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  Speaker 4: important to us and we vowed that we're going to
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  Speaker 4: do it, we just sort of forget about it. This
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  Speaker 4: is often why it can be fun to have a
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  Speaker 4: visual representation that's maybe a T shirt or a piece
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  Speaker 4: of jewelry or something like a little thing on your
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  Speaker 4: desk that would help remind you of what you have
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  Speaker 4: set your theme to be, just so that you remember
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  Speaker 4: to do it now. If you get to a point
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  Speaker 4: and you realize, okay, I haven't been living up to this,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's never too late.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: There's an adage that I love, which is the best
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  Speaker 4: time to play it a tree is twenty years ago.
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  Speaker 2: The second best time is now.
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  Speaker 4: And the best time to have a terrific summer is
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  Speaker 4: when at the beginning of summer. But the second best
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  Speaker 4: time is whenever you think of it, so you're never behind.
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  Speaker 4: You can always just start where you are and jump in.
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  Speaker 4: I think that as much as you can remind yourself
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  Speaker 4: along the way is good. But if you you know
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  Speaker 4: you've lost some time, that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Just re engage, all right, Gretchen, thank you so much
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  Speaker 2: for this. I always love chatting with you.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I always love talking to you. I was looking
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  Speaker 4: forward to it. I love the juicy summer. I think
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  Speaker 4: that's a great thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that summer of juice, summer of jewz.
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  Speaker 2: All right, time for a recap. Take away One is
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  Speaker 2: to give your summer a theme. Pick a single word
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  Speaker 2: or a phrase that you want to embrace this season,
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  Speaker 2: something that captures the feeling you want to have over
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  Speaker 2: the next few months. Some other ideas that folks shared
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  Speaker 2: with Gretchen Appalachian granny summer, which means a season filled
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  Speaker 2: with gardening, handicrafts, canning, and learning to make sourdough. Summer
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  Speaker 2: of America's two fiftieth. The US turns two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty years old in July, so this person will be
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  Speaker 2: reading books about US history, incorporating red, white, and blue
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  Speaker 2: into their wardrobe, and taking a trip to Washington, DC.
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  Speaker 2: There's backyard summer or the summer of open water, And
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: of course, there are lots of single words that you
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  Speaker 2: could choose to remember. Mine is going to be juice.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Take Away two come up with a summer bucket list.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you want to try kayaking, or see the sunset
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  Speaker 2: or sunrise at least once, ride the ferris wheel at
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  Speaker 2: a summer fair, eat corn on the cob, make a
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  Speaker 2: tomato tart. Take Away three is to come up with
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  Speaker 2: some sort of challenge. Really gamify your bucket list, like
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to try five new types of juice or
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: read five romance novels. And take Away four experience the
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  Speaker 2: summer through your five senses and then reflect what does
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  Speaker 2: summer look like, smell like, taste, like, sound like, and
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  Speaker 2: feel like. I'll tell you what comes to mind for me.
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  Speaker 2: The smell of smoke from a crackling outdoor fire and
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  Speaker 2: the taste of toasted marshmallows on a stick. All right,
• 20:21
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