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ICE Chases and Runs Over “Dead” Man | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas · DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

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Good morning. This is DeProgram with Ted Rall
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and Jamarl Thomas. It's Friday, October 16, 2026.
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We are going to have Jamarl joining us in just
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a minute or two when he finishes up with his
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it is a Friday, is a truncated show. So we're
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only here for an hour. Got half a dozen stories
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to cover, so that's roughly 10 minutes each.
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Good morning, Jamarl. Good morning. And we are
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going to, no DMZ America. We're going to take
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the week off this week due to the fact that co
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-host Scott Stantis is traveling. TMI resumes
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next week. All right, here's what we've got for
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today. This is a really crazy story. To ICE, all dark-skinned people look the same.
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And now apparently dark-skinned dead
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people look the same as dark-skinned live people.
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Remember the guy that they ran into on purpose
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and lied about in Houston? They ran over him
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and broke his leg in a million pieces. Turns
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out that the guy they were actually looking for,
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and they claimed that he was, actually died nine
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years ago, himself being chased by other immigration
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agents and on a cliff on the US-Mexico border.
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I swear you can't make this stuff up. Prime Minister
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Mark Carney of Canada says that the US is trying
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to own Canada and break it apart. He's urging
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Alberta not to vote for independence or to start
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steps towards independence. Another school shooting.
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It had been a while. I was wondering what's
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going on. This one in Bend, Oregon. Three kids
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and a teacher dead so far. 16-year-old shooter,
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bystander saw him and killed him. It turns out,
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which this probably doesn't need a lot of time
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to talk about, but we had sort of speculated
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yesterday about who told Starlink to, or who
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shut down or throttled Starlink for Ukraine.
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That order, Reuters says, did come out, as we
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thought, from the White House. Trump apparently
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didn't know about it. I have some questions for
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you about that, Jamarl. Dublin, a hotel in Dublin
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cancelled a block of rooms reserved for an anti
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-Semitism conference. This is not an IDF or Israel
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thing. Obviously, now you're starting to see
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sort of a blowback against Israel that's
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migrating against Jews in general. And I have
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thought further thoughts about Ilhan Omar. And
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there's more details coming out about exactly
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what the DOJ is on about. And we'll talk about
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that. I think this is a wedge test for Democrats,
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Jamarl. So where shall we start? Let's start
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with. Oh, that was a story that you recounted.
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It wasn't the Ilhan Omar one. It was the two
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ones before Ilhan Omar. Two ones before, that
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would be Starlink. Yes, Starlink. Okay, okay.
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Yeah, so from my point of view, it was,
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okay, this is obviously coming out of the White
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House, right? Yep, you called it. Yeah, and we
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both called it, because it was, do we really
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believe that Elon Musk is sitting somewhere turning
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up and down the dials of Starlink? He has too
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many kids to create. He doesn't have time for
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that. Right. He has to procreate and get to Mars.
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He doesn't have time for all that. It's obviously
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the White House. Trump is being humiliated by
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Zelensky hitting refiners. Meaning when the White
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House comes out, the president of the United
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States, the beacon of democracy comes out, it
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says, stop hitting refiners. And you're telling
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your client, it's like you're telling your child.
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And they continuously do it. And then they go
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on Piers Morgan and bitch about it. Oh, we felt
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betrayed by our allies. They weren't helping
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us. We need patriots, blah, blah, blah, blah,
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blah. Okay, what does that mean for the president?
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Is the president too weak to control his proxy?
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And so, yeah, I can imagine the White House,
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we need to teach that little troll a lesson.
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So when you go off for your attacks, using the
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weapon in ways that technically, according to
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Elon Musk, aren't supposed to be used. Because
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they're not supposed to be used in offensive
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operations. Wink, wink. You have to
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say that for your just hashtag Russia
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don't blow my shit out the sky. Right. We turn
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it down. Now, the interesting part is what you
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point out. They claim Trump didn't know. That
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is the interesting part. That's wild.
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Didn't you connect this to the fiasco about the
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execution in Hegseth? The first thing I thought
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was Hegseth. I was like, how is he this in the
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dark? Did Hegseth tell the president that he was
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going to execute him on live stream? The president
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didn't seem to know. Or for that matter, him
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being in a wheelchair. The wheelchair, yeah.
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He barely knew about the live stream and he certainly
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didn't know about the wheelchair. Yeah. And now
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you get the situation where they're like, nobody
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told the president. OK, so who did it? Who did
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it? Who asserted that authority? You don't need
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a micromanager president. Right. But you
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do want the president to be read into the most
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important stuff. And this is important stuff.
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And obviously they're telling the truth. Right.
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It could be plausible deniability. Talk
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about extremes of plausible deniability. A lot
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of people don't know this. There's literally,
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he did know probably, but there's no
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historical evidence that Adolf Hitler ever knew
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about the Holocaust. In other words, there's
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no memo. There's no, he never signed off
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on it. He's like, go team. No,
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nothing like that. So it's maybe it's
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plausible deniability. The boss doesn't
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want to know. We just won't tell the boss. It
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could be that. But. This goes back to
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a lot of plausible deniability that takes place
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between the president, CIA, other agents.
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Ronald Reagan, the gipper. When Ronald Reagan
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was like, I didn't know anything about the Iran
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-Contra affair, but I'm the gipper and the buck
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stops with me. Okay, did Reagan actually know?
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Yeah, I believe Reagan knew. I think Reagan knew
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all about it, yeah. Yeah, and so I'm left with
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a situation like this where the president is
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being humiliated by a client. Could this be a
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Biden situation where the president
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is just out of it and mentally? And therefore,
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that's why he's not involved in
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these. But he's an empty husk like Joe Biden
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was. But it's humiliating. Anyway, you
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look at it, it's humiliating. You're telling
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your client. This puts me in the mind of
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Joe Biden and then Yahoo. That's what this puts
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me in mind of. Where Joe Biden is like, well,
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Israel needs to stop at so forth. And they blow
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past it. Well, Israel shouldn't do so forth.
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And they blow past it. Meaning over and over
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again, it's like he took every opportunity to
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humiliate Joe Biden. It feels a little bit like
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this. Hey, I need Zelensky to stop doing that.
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And Zelensky continues to do it. Then Zelensky
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goes and bitches about it. And even the White
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House thing where he gets into a pissing match
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with Vance and Trump in the middle of reporters.
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Meaning he knows what he's doing when he's bringing
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this stuff to the public because he believes
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that the public is his leverage. That I can tell
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the American public this and the American public
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would agree with me about this. And I can humiliate
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the president and force the president into doing
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X or Y based on public humiliation. He better
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be careful with that. The Europeans are
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freaking out. Well, the Europeans are basically
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like, shut the F up about Trump stuff. You realize
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we need him and the Starlink thing is a big thing
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right? The idea that they were not able to
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pursue their military objectives without the
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U.S. allowing them to do so. Well that's interesting
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right? It's super interesting yeah it's like well
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our allies didn't tell us so and by the way and
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who in the White House right? The White House
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told us right now that doesn't imply to me Hegseth
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or the cabinet or the CIA. It's the
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White House. Is this Susie Wiles?
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She's large and in charge and just
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taking care of it. Tell
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that little Z to back off. Who at the White
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House? I don't know. I honestly don't know. That's
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what I mean. When I hear White House I think
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Trump. Trump did this. And now they're trying to
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create this delineation between Trump and the
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White House. Or he just has one of his pastel
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of dumb blondes call. What's going on?
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Well, somebody apparently told the Pentagon,
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turn it down. Who is that person? I'm still going
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with the assumption of Trump. The catch becomes,
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why doesn't Trump want anybody to know? Okay,
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well, maybe the White House or the president
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doesn't want to be associated with it. Because
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apparently they've turned Starlink back to
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its normal settings. Well, I'm reading
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this book that we're going to interview
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Stephen Kinzer the
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week after next about Ukraine
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and it reminded me. I was reading just yesterday
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this quote that you'll remember this. I wish
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I had the clip but Putin was being interviewed
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and he said I've been here a long
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time and I've seen Democratic and Republican
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presidents come and go and he said it seems
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like just when you start to feel like,
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oh, we're going to get a new president who's
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going to be able to talk to us and we're going
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to be able to do business and we're
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going to have some reason come in.
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That guys in suits come in and he's
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like, they wear different, same color suits as
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me, but different tie than me. Remember he said
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that? And he goes, and they come in and then
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they and then they have briefcases
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and they just tell the new president like. No,
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you're not allowed to make nice with Russia.
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And you have to suck up to Ukraine and
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you have to suck up to Israel. And this is how
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things are. And they read them in and then that's
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it. And he said, I've seen this happen over and
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over again. That's kind of what's going
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on here. I think, look, I think Donald Trump
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probably hates Zelensky and he's probably would
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love to cut the Ukrainians loose. I don't
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think anyone in Trump's position, Democrat or
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Republican, would not hate Zelensky.
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He's a pain in the ass. He's demanding. He's
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a pipsqueak. He doesn't hold the cards, as Trump
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likes to say. And yet he's making all these demands.
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And for what? What does the US get out of it?
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Just more trouble. It's like he's annoying. And
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so when you're in a situation where you're forced
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to deal with someone who you hate,
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you're going to be passive. Your only workaround
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is passive aggressiveness. I think that's what
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this is here. I would say that's the workaround.
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That's how it works. You've had that
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when you're in a situation where your boss or family member, your parents
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they're trying. You can't get out
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of it because they're holding the court
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the street. They're pulling the string somehow
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and you're like all right but I could be passive
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I could be slow on this. Defense is passive
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aggressiveness. I could be slow getting back to
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you. Yeah, did you see the interview between Trump
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and Zelensky? I'm sorry, between Trump and when
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they're asked, when Trump is asked about Zelensky,
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this took place, I think it was either last night
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or the night before last on Newsmax. I'm going
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to put it in. So I'm going to put this in the
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chat. Oh, great. Put it in the chat. Robby,
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please take care of that. And while you're doing
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that, we have a few comments. He trashes the
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hell out of Zelensky. He does? Oh, that's fantastic.
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Thanks for the dollar. He says he's going to
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see the Sex Pistols. I'm going to argue about
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this, okay? You're not going to see the Sex Pistols.
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The Sex Pistols is not the Sex Pistols without
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Johnny Rotten, okay? A.K.A. Johnny Lydon. But
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anyway, it's Steve Jones, Paul Cook, Glenn Matlock.
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Okay, the original members, except Glenn Matlock
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didn't tour with them. That was Sid Vicious,
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but he couldn't play. Glenn Matlock recorded
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the album. But Frank Carter, this is just like
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the Dead Kennedys. Dead Kennedys are touring
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without Jello Biafra. That's fucked up.
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It's like when The
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Doors put out a couple of albums after Jim Morrison
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died. What are you guys thinking? Or Mott the
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Hoople without Ian Hunter. What are you guys
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thinking? It's just Pink Floyd after
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Roger Waters left. What are you, nuts? Earth,
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Wind & Fire. What's his name? Maurice. What is
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his first name? I can't think of his name. The
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original lead singer. On the other hand, Pink
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Floyd carried on after Syd Barrett and things
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went well. But still. Okay,
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we have it here. Robby, can you go ahead and
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be so kind as to play this clip for us? And then
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we've got to move on to our other topics. Thank
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you, Robby. I don't hear it. No, I'm not a big
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fan of Zelensky. They've destroyed that country.
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Zelensky is not a good guy for us to deal with.
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Biden gave him hundreds of billions of dollars.
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Billions and billions of dollars. Have you lost
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faith in him? Well, I think if they're going
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to end up with a settlement of some kind, they're
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not going to do it with him. He doesn't want
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to settle. He says he wants to settle, but he
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doesn't. No, I'm not a big fan of Zelensky. They've
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destroyed that country. That country, look, it
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really began with Barack Hussein Obama when they
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made them give up Crimea. Crimea is the most
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valuable part by far of Ukraine. You know what
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I'm talking about. Four sides of ocean. Most
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beautiful piece of land. I'm a real estate developer.
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I know good land. Zelensky is not a good guy
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for us to deal with. Biden gave him hundreds
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of billions of dollars. Billions and billions
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of dollars. Well, I think if they're going to
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end up with a settlement of some kind, they're
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not going to do it. There's another part of that
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clip where Trump calls him like a clown or like
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a circus buck or something like that. Well
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he's literally a comedian. Literally
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not look. I'm a cartoonist. No shade
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on the comedians but it's still
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he is kind of a clown although so is
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Donald Trump which is funny to me right now
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he is trashing him out. Well comedians
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don't like each other. You ever notice that when
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they're on a panel together they're always
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trying to talk over each other. Yeah, yeah.
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I think, look, I guess from my point of view,
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Zelensky better be very careful in this situation.
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I think the Europeans in this are right. Tone
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it down, going after Trump. Yeah, without
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Trump, he's got nothing. Look,
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obviously it's so funny. Under normal
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circumstances, you would look at a clip like
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that and say, OK, the U.S. is done with Zelensky.
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Finished. And it's like at this point,
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Ukraine might be finished with the U.S. The
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only way around it would be for those for the powers that be in Ukraine to overthrow
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Zelensky and install someone new. Right. And
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you notice I don't say elect someone new because
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they don't have elections. Right. It's not they
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don't do that anymore. So but this is different.
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We know what happened with that fiasco
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in the Oval Office with Vance. And
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so obviously with Trump, this is probably just
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sort of shooting across Zelensky's bow,
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cut the shit, quit being
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who the fuck do you think you are? Yeah. It's
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interesting. We're going to watch it. We've got
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to keep going, though, because we have a lot
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more to do. But all right. I don't even know.
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Let's get the school shooting. I don't have a
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lot to say about it. Here we go again,
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basically. Bend, Oregon, I've been there.
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It's for whatever that's worth. A
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16-year-old high school kid went in with a
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long gun, killed at least three kids and a teacher
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so far. We hope that's it. And it's
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the usual hearts and prayers. People calling
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for gun control on the left, people on the right
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saying, hey, thank God for the good guy with
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the gun. It's boring. Not for
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the people whose community has been decimated,
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but it's the same old, same old. This is just
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another day in America. Yeah. This is the
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ritual that we engage in after a school shooting
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in order to make ourselves feel okay until it
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happens again. We will go through the same ritual
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to make ourselves feel okay. It's
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I lose my job so I'm going to get ice
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cream. Right, you're okay, this is a horrible
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day, here we go again, feel better. It's
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this ritual of sorts. It's ritualistic
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without doing anything if that makes sense. But
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it's almost like the ritual itself takes priority.
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I'm trying to think of a better example. It's
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me doing something. It's me spinning
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my wheels. It's okay, I'm going to work
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on this thing. And yet, whatever I'm doing, it's
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not necessarily working on this thing. It just
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gives me the feeling as if I'm working on this
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thing when really you're not really doing anything.
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You're standing still. It's that. Which is the
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point about it being boring. Yeah, I feel that
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way. When Obama would come out and sing
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Amazing Grace every time somebody get killed
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some kind of mass shooting or school shooting
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or something like that. And it's dude,
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you're president. Yes, if only there was a person,
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only person who had a job with incredible influence
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and power. Yeah, it feels like that. I get it,
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right? The president is not a king. He's not
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a dictator, but it feels that way. It's kind
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of you seem to be in a position of authority.
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I don't need you to sing Amazing Grace. Somebody
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else can save my soul. I need you to do things
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of law and justice and shit like that.
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Yeah, okay, so listen, I'm really glad
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we got this comment from One Hair Maven, who
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says, why doesn't anyone ever call for better
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mental health care in America. And
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that is an angle that you do hear from
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time to time. Obviously, most of these
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school shooters are mentally disturbed.
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It's not hard to imagine what was going through
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the mind of a 16-year-old kid who did this.
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If you've ever been 16, it's probably
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not hard to imagine. It isn't for me.
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I hated school. I wouldn't have. Look, I would
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have. It would have crossed my mind
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to blow up my own school. Not an elementary school.
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I hated it. Obviously,
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I'm sure that those thoughts cross the minds
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of hundreds of thousands of American
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school kids every single day. Wait, wait, just
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to be clear, we're saying the thoughts of taking
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a weapon, a gun, and going through and murdering
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teachers and children. Yeah, I don't buy that.
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I don't buy that premise. But just if you
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could push a button and just make your school
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disappear, right? I don't buy the premise. I
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don't think there's that much hatred in school
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like that. Maybe you had a better school experience
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than I did. I guarantee you I did. I guarantee
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you I did. I'm just pointing out this idea. It
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never occurred to me to say at no point through
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my entire time in school, and this includes being
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at odds with people in that school in not good
20:25
ways, that I would have came to myself and thought,
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I'm going to take a gun. And I'm going to just
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murder people in school. That's mind blowing
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to me that you think that that's a normal thought.
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When Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold shot
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up Columbine, everyone thinks that's the
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first time that's happened. That's not true.
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But in the modern era, it's the one that we first
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started paying attention to. I remember just
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thinking, I'm surprised this doesn't happen
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more often. School. School is. There's so many indignities.
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There's bullying. There's bullying by
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the school itself. There's I don't know
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to what extent this stuff still goes on. But
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when I was a kid, there was corporal punishment
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in public schools. That's still true in a bunch
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of schools. There was also being
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picked last repeatedly for teams and everyone
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making fun of you. There's
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you run for school class president or whatever
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and you win but the school decides they don't
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want to let you have that office because
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this principal doesn't like you. There's
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just a lot of injustice and cruelty in school
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and it's not discouraged
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by the administration. Yeah but bullying is the
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only thing that I would understand if the person
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there's also a class hierarchy right? There's
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the jocks who are ruling over everyone
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else and there's different dynamics
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every school is unique and has its own dynamics
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but Heathers completely
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the movie 1988 plays off entirely off this dynamic
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the original ending has them blowing up the school
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and frying up marshmallows over the
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flames of the school and everyone laughing about
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it. It's obviously not the most deranged
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thought in the world. I'm not saying it's the
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most deranged thought in the world. There are
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all sorts of things that can be deranged. I'm
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not encouraging anyone to do this. I'm just making
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a point. I don't think that's the normal thought.
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Maybe it's a generational gap because you're
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a boomer. I don't know what the hell I am. Generation
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X or whatever the hell that is. That may be a
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generational gap. By the way, I don't mean boomers.
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The word is funny. It could be different because
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we didn't have corporal punishment in our schools.
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At the, let me see, I was in school, I graduated
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in 95. When did you graduate your high school?
22:58
81. That's a bit of a gap. It's a gap for sure.
23:04
I don't know if the gap makes a difference. Things
23:04
changed a lot. And also it depends on the state
23:07
you went in. It sometimes
23:11
felt like living in a fascist state. But school
23:15
is a fascist state. It's supposed to be. It's
23:18
instruction. Meaning you are programming
23:21
kids. It's a fascist state. But I don't see how
23:25
adulthood is all that radically different. Well,
23:27
we have more to cover, and I do want to keep
23:29
this moving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I literally thought
23:31
we'd be able to dispose of this one pretty quickly.
23:33
No, I just thought it was interesting, that thought,
23:36
that this is a thought that you think a lot of
23:38
people have. Skidso says, Ted, shouldn't get
23:39
sympathy because they're not in their right mind?
23:42
No.
23:47
The kid's
23:49
dead, unfortunately. So therefore, we don't have
23:51
the ability to ask him what was going on, right?
23:55
Yeah, they killed him. Yeah. Most of these school
24:00
shooters, FUSO says, were on SSRI drugs, which
24:07
some now call school shooter pills. That could
24:11
be true. Causation does not make causation.
24:15
But yeah, obviously, look,
24:18
school shootings aside and even we need
24:22
national health care including mental
24:25
health care and vision and dental right?
24:28
Nobody even talks about those as if they're
24:30
separate or something. Well your eyes don't
24:37
matter. It's ridiculous. Gum health is really
24:39
important to your overall health. But anyway,
24:42
the point is we need better. Even if it doesn't
24:45
save a single kid from being shot by a school
24:48
shooter in the future, we still deserve and need
24:50
public mental health care in this country.
24:54
And that should even if nothing else, this were
24:57
to lead these kind of events were to lead to
25:00
that someday. That would be a positive outcome to a negative thing. Let me
25:03
ask you this. Do you think people have gotten
25:04
weaker over time? No, that's a great question.
25:08
Yes, I think it's definitively yes. Okay, I see
25:12
well because I see some of the stuff that takes
25:15
place in regards to kids and younger people today
25:17
and everything is traumatic. Everything is trauma
25:20
and I think some of the stuff that went on back
25:24
in my life and it's dude that's not trauma
25:27
that's just life and they get coddled by either
25:32
parents, especially on the left and even on the
25:35
right, right? They have their own pet ponies
25:37
that they get coddled by. It just seems like
25:39
the mental health thing is worse today because
25:43
of, and I hate to say this, maybe I'm sounding
25:46
old myself on this. It just seems like it's different.
25:50
What people would tolerate in the past is not
25:52
what people would tolerate now. And because there's
25:55
a, let's say a movement to the left on many of
25:57
these issues, then it becomes much more socially
26:00
acceptable to be traumatized by stuff that in
26:04
the past would just be considered living.
26:07
I think it's a positive thing that we're now
26:09
dealing. Maybe I'm biased about this
26:12
because I've been diagnosed by my shrink as having
26:14
PTSD but I think it's a positive thing that trauma
26:18
is something that we're more aware of and
26:21
that people know maybe are more likely
26:24
to go and seek help for rather than turning it
26:27
inward against themselves. But you may have
26:30
a point. Nowadays Gen X is finally
26:34
being noticed by Gen Z and it's
26:37
who's this other generation no one ever talks
26:39
about and and it's all over. There's all this
26:42
internet stuff right now about what exactly
26:44
is up with Gen X and how they'd have no time
26:47
for anything and it's basically look yeah
26:50
we don't really whinge because it's kind of
26:53
that thing well we could complain but who
26:56
would listen right? Nobody ever can listen to
26:59
Gen X complaining so we learned that from a young
27:01
age no one gives a what we think so we might
27:05
as well just when we have to when something
27:06
comes up we just have to deal with it and
27:09
we soldier through. It's not fun
27:12
it just is what it is and now I think with
27:15
Gen Z where they're living their entire
27:17
lives online and everything they're kind of
27:20
Those guys are kind of cool. What's with
27:22
that? We could maybe pick up a few hints from
27:24
Gen X. So it's kind of funny. It's
27:26
that sort of, are we weaker now?
27:29
Maybe, but I'm not sure weaker is bad.
27:32
But Math 536 brings up an excellent point. It
27:35
says, Ted, the biggest difference for kids nowadays
27:37
is cell phone and social media. Everyone has
27:39
a camera, and once it's posted, it's on the internet
27:42
forever. We're seeing that with the Cornell
27:45
rape case right where it's all these texts
27:48
are all screenshotted. Everyone's life is
27:51
online. The alleged victims comments
27:55
about herself oh I'm a and it's oh
27:58
she's a. It's just there's no privacy
28:02
. That is a way to be driven insane. True
28:06
true. I accept that. I didn't grow
28:10
up in a school where people can be chased
28:14
online, meaning you leave school and then you
28:17
have bullying online on top of being at school.
28:20
Yeah, it can drive a person crazy. Or you do
28:22
have an indiscretion and all of a sudden it's
28:26
online forever. Right, it's basically we
28:29
all live in a small town where everyone knows
28:31
every stupid fucking thing you ever did. Yeah,
28:34
and everybody has a comment. Everybody has words.
28:36
Everybody has things. I don't know.
28:38
That's a new... Okay, I accept that. That's
28:41
a new norm. That's a huge change between, yeah,
28:44
there's been changes between my high
28:48
school experience and yours, and I think between
28:50
yours and the kids today. That's the big difference.
28:55
It's going to have to be some kind of new social
28:57
norm that's developed for dealing with this shit,
29:00
especially growing up with it. Yeah. Robby?
29:02
Whenever, no, there's only really two absolutes
29:06
ever taught my kids. And by absolutes, I mean
29:08
just a corporate absolute. I didn't really go
29:12
to high school, so I didn't have the experience
29:13
that one of y'all had. I was just feral when
29:16
I was growing up. But the first lesson that I
29:19
taught my kids when they were around eight years
29:22
old, I gave them a blank sheet of paper. I said,
29:25
this is what you're owed by life. And my daughter
29:29
was like, dad, there's nothing on it. That's
29:30
correct. You're owed nothing. Whatever you put
29:35
on this paper is what you earn. You earn it.
29:38
You're owed nothing. I don't think that's true,
29:40
by the way. Well, maybe, maybe not. Well, the
29:44
reason why I don't think it's true. Okay, I'm
29:46
sorry. Finish your thought. But I'm just saying,
29:48
there's nothing special about you. You're
29:51
not owed anything by society. Or even if you
29:55
are owed something, you may or you may not get
29:57
it, right? Sure. Don't get me wrong.
29:59
I think there are times in education, things
30:01
like that. But as far as you specifically being
30:04
owed by virtue of being my son or being my daughter,
30:07
this is what you're guaranteed by. To put a finer
30:09
point on it, maybe it would be better to say
30:11
what you can expect to receive. Yeah, that'd
30:15
be fair enough. Remember, you don't have to do
30:17
with limited vocabulary here. Then the other
30:20
lesson I took them is I took them out to a clay
30:22
pit with a watermelon and I shot it with an SKS
30:25
rifle. I said, if you get a gun that's in the
30:29
closet and you shoot somebody, this is what happens.
30:32
Don't do it because there's no fixing this. And
30:35
that lesson is burned in there. Those two lessons,
30:37
I've stuck with them. And I'm thankful for that.
30:40
Simple works. You don't need to scrap someone
30:43
a bunch of pills just to drug somebody up and
30:46
then tell them, oh, you're special. You poured
30:48
a little thing. Somebody hurt your feelings.
30:50
Here's a teddy bear with Jackson pot chocolate.
30:52
Life doesn't work that way. Life is a costly
30:55
kicking the balls every single day. Get used
30:57
to it. Wear a cup. Yeah. All right. Anything
31:03
to add to that before we move on? By the way,
31:05
just a little bit of housekeeping. Guys, if you're
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31:32
we move on? Yeah, we can move on. I understand
31:35
the point. I understand the point. The only reason
31:38
I said initially disagree with it is because
31:39
if you bring a kid into the world, they're required
31:42
things just to exist. But we can move on. Okay.
31:47
Requiring things but being owed something are
31:49
two different things. I'm required to feed you,
31:52
provide for you, clothe you. Those are things
31:54
that you're entitled to by virtue of you being
31:57
alive. Yeah. But you're not owed a car. You're
32:01
not owed a six-figure salary. You're not owed
32:05
a scholarship. You're not owed any of the benefits
32:09
of this life. You're owed the necessities, but
32:13
you're not owed the extras. That's fine. Yeah.
32:16
And not everyone gets the necessities, obviously.
32:19
OK, let's talk about Ilhan Omar. So
32:23
we talked about her already. So to put a fine
32:25
point on what's going on here. So basically
32:28
her parents applied for her to come into the
32:32
United States on her immigration application.
32:35
Her birth date was listed as 1982. She was 17
32:39
years old at the time. So because she was not
32:42
yet an adult, you become an adult at 18 in the
32:44
US. She would have been under her parents' application.
32:48
She wouldn't have filled out anything herself.
32:51
Had she been 18, she would have been required
32:53
to fill out her own individual application as
32:56
an adult. So apparently Wikipedia, of all things,
33:01
which we know how incredibly reliable that is
33:03
because anyone and everyone can go and edit it,
33:06
stated that she was born actually in 1981. That
33:11
apparently is the basis for the Department of
33:14
Justice investigation. Wikipedia article. Wikipedia
33:18
article. So there's a conflict between
33:22
Ilhan Omar's birth date on Wikipedia and what she
33:26
says her birth date is which is 1982. What's
33:29
on Wikipedia shortly shortly after she be for
33:33
whatever you want to this also probably doesn't
33:35
mean anything but in May 2019 months after she
33:38
entered Congress, Ilhan Omar approached the Minnesota
33:42
Legislative Reference Library and asked to change
33:45
her birth date from 1981 to 1982 because it had
33:48
pulled the information from Wikipedia. That is
33:52
apparently the smoking gun that the DOJ is pointing
33:55
to. Now, here's where things get interesting.
33:59
I've been thinking about this. Okay, so
34:04
logically, it's probably she may not have a birth
34:09
certificate that she can point to because she's
34:12
from a war-torn country that was a failed state
34:15
at the time right? That's why she her family was
34:17
admitted as a refugee right? Somalia was
34:20
a failed state. So when she was born, the country
34:24
was falling apart. If the birth records ever
34:27
existed, she may have been born at home, but
34:30
even if she was born at hospital with official
34:32
records, those records probably were destroyed
34:34
during the war. So she probably doesn't have
34:37
a birth certificate. She can't point to this
34:40
document and say, otherwise, we have shades of
34:44
Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate.
34:47
Once again, this is birtherism. Right. This is
34:50
Donald Trump kind of again doing birtherism.
34:54
And in this case, she probably doesn't have a
34:57
good way around it. This reminds me of when I
35:00
was I worked in the admissions office at Columbia
35:02
in the early 90s. And we had some transfer applicants
35:07
who came from places where for various reasons
35:10
they didn't have all their birth records. They
35:13
didn't have their college transcripts.
35:16
I remember we had an applicant who had attended
35:18
college in China during the Cultural Revolution
35:20
and all the transcripts were destroyed during
35:24
the Cultural Revolution. And so we basically
35:27
had to interview her and try to determine
35:30
whether she was full of and had actually been
35:33
to high school and maybe had a year or two
35:36
of college in China. We wouldn't have. There's
35:39
no grades. We don't know anything about
35:41
and anyway so we had to basically take a flyer
35:45
. We decided to let her in. We were
35:47
it's not like I think it would have been a
35:49
problem if we had thousands of applicants like
35:51
that but because we're only a few we're
35:54
give her a chance and if she up she'll just leave
35:57
right? But and we told her
36:00
that we're we don't know. We just don't know
36:02
but we'll let. We're going to give you a chance
36:03
here. And I think this kind of so this is there's
36:08
this so there's that this angle I wanted to talk
36:11
to you about and I also wanted to talk get your
36:13
thoughts on. I realized this she's a wedge issue
36:17
this is why the Republicans have picked her and
36:19
are picking on her because they know that she's
36:22
on the Squad. She's a socialist and she knows
36:25
that the mainstream the DNC Democrats the Chuck
36:28
Schumer's of the world the Nancy Pelosi's of
36:31
the world don't care about her or like her and
36:34
they want that people like her out of the party
36:37
they don't and so it's Democrats have
36:41
issued a few strongly worded complaints online
36:44
about this but honestly this is a test for the
36:48
Democratic warning emergency warning system. If
36:51
I were in the Democratic leadership I'd say this
36:56
is a test for us. We have to defend our sitting
36:59
congressman. She's a fellow party member. She's
37:03
a member of Congress. Who cares? We'll never
37:05
fucking know what year she was born. But we should
37:09
do no business. There will be no military spending.
37:11
We will not raise the debt limit. We will not
37:15
do shit. There will be no quorum in Congress.
37:18
We will shut down the government. We back
37:21
off, leave her the fuck alone. And the fact that
37:24
they're not doing that plays right into the hands
37:26
of the president. Yeah, yeah, agree.
37:29
Aside from the racist element associated with
37:32
going after a Muslim. Yeah, it's because the
37:38
first, my first question was, okay, well, what
37:40
about her birth certificate? And as you point
37:42
out, she may not have one depending upon,
37:45
based on what was taking place when she
37:47
immigrated into the country, she immigrated from
37:50
a war-torn country. And so then the question
37:52
becomes, this is so, of all the things that a
37:59
government can look for, this is what they do.
38:02
You can lose your birth certificate under very,
38:04
even stupider circumstances than that. My
38:07
ex-wife, she was born in Taiwan. And in Taiwan,
38:12
your birth certificate is not stored at a public records office as it is in the United
38:16
States. It's stored by the hospital. Well, the
38:19
hospital where she was born was closed. She had
38:24
to have a relative go and basically find
38:27
out if those archives still exist. And they do,
38:31
but they're somewhere else. And they had to go
38:34
find a copy of her birth certificate. But
38:36
shit happens, right? But she's going to have,
38:39
this is obviously going to go to court
38:41
because it doesn't seem like they're going to
38:43
let this go. And obviously what they're trying
38:46
to do is denaturalize her so that she can be
38:48
deported. Exactly. That's what they want. That's
38:51
what they want. More facts don't seem to give
38:52
a shit. No. They don't seem to care. No. Meaning
38:56
they're not howling in the way that you would
38:58
think they would be howling as one of their own
39:00
is being picked apart. Because this is the test.
39:04
Of course they're going to start with someone
39:06
who they can otherize and who doesn't have a
39:10
lot of protection, institutional protection from
39:12
the system because the system doesn't care that
39:15
much about her. Right. Yeah. Agreed. And the
39:18
system being her political party. You would think
39:22
that the party would care. And yet they don't.
39:25
They complain more about John Bolton.
39:30
The raid on John Bolton's house. Right. Right.
39:33
Fuck John Bolton. Yeah. But every
39:37
day on MSNBC, oh, my God, they raided John Bolton's
39:39
house. Yeah, true. I guess my point is, yeah,
39:42
they should be screaming to high heaven about
39:45
this. This is fucking outrageous. This
39:47
should be stop the presses. We're not doing
39:51
anything until you drop this bone.
39:54
Even if you personally think I hate Ilhan Omar
39:57
and she's fucking up the Democratic Party, even
40:00
if you privately believe all that, you've got
40:03
to know, first they came for
40:05
Ilhan Omar and I said nothing because she was
40:07
a socialist and in the Squad. Then they this is a Martin Niemöller moment.
40:12
Yeah you just can't let it pass. I have a question
40:15
is she really a socialist? Well for example
40:17
when is she ever? I think she's a corporate
40:20
Democrat. There's nothing socialist
40:23
about it. She's on the left
40:26
she's on the left side the left part of what
40:28
passes for the left and the Democratic. I'm sorry
40:31
the Squad is not the Jamarl Thomas or Ted
40:35
Rall version of socialism so y'all's point
40:39
about the Trump going after. Yeah, she's red meat,
40:43
and I think that she's probably done more damage
40:46
to herself by betraying the people that she thought
40:48
were going to fight for her, that she was going
40:50
to fight for. And that's why they're just hanging
40:53
out to dry. It's not because she's some persecuted
40:55
minority. It's because she's an ineffectual member
40:59
of Congress who lied to her constituents. Lying
41:02
to your constituents is a standard thing
41:04
that congressmen do. Yeah, but don't be surprised
41:06
that no one's rallying behind you. Yeah, that's
41:10
not why. But you have a political party and you
41:13
would think for God's sake they would
41:14
rally behind any other random corporate Democrat
41:16
they're just not rallying around her. They see
41:19
her as something meaning the members of
41:22
the Squad regardless of whether you think they're
41:23
ineffectual or not. It's secondary to the point
41:25
that the party hates them. Yeah right that's
41:29
the party doesn't like them and so the idea that
41:32
they're going after Ilhan has more to do with
41:34
the fact that they're going after a member of
41:36
this kind of quote rebel band of quote the lefties
41:40
in the way that they call them. That's exactly
41:42
it. No, I think there's an otherization of somebody
41:44
like Ilhan Omar or somebody like... What was
41:48
the other guy? The black guy that lost his seat.
41:50
He was very angry. Oh, was it Corey... I can't
41:55
think of his... He ran, I think, recently. He
41:56
has a bald head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I reckon he
41:59
was out of... He was accused of ringing the fire
42:01
alarm? That guy? Yes, that guy. Corey, I think,
42:05
something. He got into this big back and forth
42:07
with and I'm saying he's angry not because he's
42:09
black because he got into a fight with one
42:11
of the guys that was on nearly in a fight
42:13
with one of the guys yeah and it was his fault
42:15
he ran up on. I think he ran up on Ted Cruz if
42:18
I'm not mistaken. Yeah well I'm okay with that
42:22
Ted Cruz is an but I don't want you being randomly
42:27
pissed off. Yeah and he's also a. He let Trump
42:31
accuse his father of killing JFK right. Right.
42:36
Jamaal Bowman. Jamaal Bowman. That's it. That's
42:40
it. Jamaal Bowman. He says, by the way, go ahead.
42:44
I don't want to. Well, I'm just looking. He was
42:45
taken out pretty quickly by Israel, spending
42:47
a huge amount of money to take him out. And the
42:49
other woman who was part of the Squad was also
42:51
outspent ridiculously to be taken out. And Democrats
42:55
stood by and didn't say a word about this taking
42:59
place. Right. Despite the fact that they have
43:01
this kind of complete alliance to Israel. I'm
43:03
saying they're doing the same thing to Ilhan
43:04
Omar. Something is happening to one of the people.
43:07
They're being taken out based on, let's say,
43:09
inordinate spending by one of their groups that
43:12
they completely support. And they stand by and
43:15
say nothing as a Republican. No, it's a bad look.
43:19
Comment from Abdul about our previous comment,
43:21
Abdu Kid. Good morning, guys. Thanks for the
43:24
$5, by the way. I'm Gen X. We definitely had
43:26
corporal punishment and school administrations
43:28
and boards bullying kids. Small towns also have
43:31
bullies from family dynasties to contend with.
43:33
Big fish, small pond. Sorry, got to keep moving.
43:37
More to talk about. Main topic. So ICE was chasing
43:43
this dude in Houston. That's our main story today.
43:46
You've probably seen the video. ICE claimed that
43:50
he jumped in front of the car. I don't know
43:52
what would they say that he weaponized his leg
43:54
against the poor innocent SUV. But then a surveillance
43:59
camera showed the truth which is he's hauling
44:02
ass and the ICE guys run chase him
44:06
down run up onto the sidewalk in order to hit
44:09
him on purpose up his leg. The local police in
44:14
Houston are furious. They're investigating
44:17
ICE and they're thinking about charging them.
44:20
Apparently ICE also destroyed evidence at the
44:22
scene. They took off with the car without when
44:26
the Houston PD said don't do that we need to
44:28
look at that car. They refuse to cooperate so
44:31
the local police are pissed. Anyway. Now, to add
44:36
to the outlandishness of this, it turns out that
44:40
the guy that ICE was actually chasing and claiming
44:43
that this guy was died. Back in 2017, he was
44:47
running away from, wait for it, ICE at the U
44:50
.S.-Mexico border. He was climbing a cliff. They
44:53
scared the shit out of him. He fell to his death.
44:57
That guy was responsible, was wanted for a few
45:00
various crimes that they now attributed to the
45:02
guy whose leg they just fucked up. The guy whose
45:05
leg they just fucked up actually has no criminal
45:07
record. And just to be clear, an American. No,
45:10
he's not. He's a Mexican national, also illegal,
45:14
but he's a construction worker with no criminal
45:17
record whatsoever. He's been here. It's
45:20
what a shit show. Yeah, this is a shit show.
45:25
Again, I don't... They should charge the ICE
45:31
agents. Absolutely. They should charge them.
45:34
Stop this thing of... Because look, anywhere
45:37
you're looking at it, if they're... I think
45:38
they're going to. Because the cops say, hey,
45:41
don't take away the evidence. That's evidence.
45:44
Don't mess with Texas, man. Don't do that. Yeah,
45:46
we don't care. And it's, you're destroying
45:48
evidence. Yeah, we don't care. You can't touch
45:51
us. That untouchability needs to be touched.
45:54
Yeah. Even if it's unsuccessful. Right if for
45:57
no other reason as to send a message. We're
46:00
going to inconvenience you. We're going to subpoena
46:02
you. We're going to cause
46:04
you problems or just you're going to follow the
46:07
law right? They're because put us in context
46:12
right? They're going after somebody because they're
46:13
saying this person is breaking the law by being
46:15
in the country illegally as they break the law
46:17
repeatedly and they're not allowed to run people
46:21
over on purpose and they lied about it as usual
46:24
right? If there were if there hadn't
46:27
been survey this is just like Rodney King. If
46:30
there hadn't been surveillance footage nobody
46:32
would have ever known the truth. It's
46:35
just the same. I feel like when the government
46:38
lies and then they sit and then they get caught
46:41
out. Oh your narrative's been blown up by
46:43
a surveillance camera. At that point it should
46:47
just be they should just they should be
46:50
all charged. The people they were after should
46:52
be allowed to walk. This guy should be getting
46:55
given. The guy they ran over should just be handed
46:58
a U.S. passport. That movie
47:01
The Terminal the Tom Hanks movie where it's based
47:04
on a true story right? This guy was caught
47:07
between two terminals at the airport
47:10
in Paris because basically there was a civil
47:13
conflict and his passport became invalid from
47:17
his home country. And so he was trapped there.
47:19
He was living in the airport for months,
47:22
bathing out of the men's room. And ultimately,
47:26
the president of France read about it. And he
47:30
was this is ridiculous. And this is so
47:32
French. He's take me to the airport. He
47:36
goes to the airport. He apologizes to the guy.
47:39
He says, I am so sorry. Welcome to France and
47:42
hands him a French passport. You are now a French
47:46
citizen. That's so cool. Isn't that cool? Very
47:49
cool. That's how this should be handled. We're
47:52
sorry we ran you down. You were living in the
47:55
shadows. We're sorry your leg's fucked up. We
47:58
know you probably will. You're never going to
47:59
run in the Olympics again. But the
48:04
good news is you're now a U.S. citizen.
48:07
Technically, he was here illegally. Yeah, he
48:10
was here illegally. I hate to bring that up.
48:12
No, it's true. It's true. They had the
48:14
wrong guy. That's the law. Two wrongs do not
48:17
make a right in this situation. You had the wrong
48:19
guy. You wanted a dead guy. Also how did you
48:24
not know he was dead when wait you killed him
48:27
you killed. That's not in your records that
48:30
you killed a guy who was wanted. He died. You
48:33
didn't mark that check mark on the Excel
48:35
spreadsheet. What I'm not saying two wrongs make
48:37
a right. I'm saying he. See ICE is wild right because
48:43
it's not a police action. They could have
48:45
went to the guy's house gave him a thing to say
48:50
basically, hey, come to so forth. They had no
48:51
idea if the guy was going to run. He was living
48:53
his life. He hadn't committed any crimes. He
48:56
was effectively living in the United States.
48:58
And he wasn't the guy they were looking for,
49:00
right? And he wasn't the guy that they were looking
49:02
for. He literally could have knocked on his door
49:04
and been like, hey, we're looking for Hernandez.
49:06
I'm Rodriguez, man. I don't know any Hernandez.
49:09
Oh, really? Do you have some ID? Yeah, hold on.
49:12
Here's some ID. Oh, okay. Oh, you're here illegally.
49:15
We'll be back for you later. I just don't accept
49:20
that they need to behave this way. Especially
49:23
running people over. Meaning whether the guy
49:25
was here illegally or not is secondary to the
49:27
point. It's an administrative crime, right? It's
49:29
not even a misdemeanor. It's literally got the
49:33
seriousness of a parking ticket. A speeding ticket
49:37
is more serious than that. Imagine the mentality
49:40
of people behind a car and running a man over.
49:45
I imagine them going, yee-haw! They
49:48
think they're in Dukes of Hazzard, right? That's
49:51
what it seems like. It seems like these guys
49:53
are yahoos. It doesn't seem... The
49:56
cops at least have a certain formality about
49:58
them. If you're watching some of
50:00
the... Oh, I'm sure the cops hate ICE. Because
50:02
it's the cops are the cops are
50:04
actual professionals. They're trained.
50:07
They try to be, but most of them... Yeah,
50:10
a lot of them are assholes, but yeah. Yeah. But
50:12
they at least give the veneer of professionality
50:14
up until the point where they're beating the
50:15
shit out of somebody. Well, they're wearing uniforms
50:16
and shit. Yeah. Yeah. And it would be frowned
50:20
upon for a cop to run a man over with their car.
50:23
I'm not saying they wouldn't do it. It's gauche.
50:26
Yeah. It's frowned upon. They don't like doing
50:28
it, right? And so the town cops looking at this
50:30
are these people are out of control.
50:33
They could have hit other people who were not
50:36
here illegally. So meaning the town cops are
50:40
this is fucking outrageous. You just ran
50:42
a man down with a car and you lied about it.
50:44
And ICE agents are, we don't care. Yeah.
50:47
That doesn't seem professional to me, right?
50:49
That seems like something else. That's it. Two
50:52
more stories to cover. I think we're going to
50:54
get through them. Okay. Okay. I got to talk about
50:58
this Dublin thing. So there's a conference called
51:02
the Special Envoys and Coordinators Combating
51:05
Anti-Semitism Conference that happens annually.
51:09
This year, the conference was supposed to be
51:11
in Dublin. It's S-E-C-C-A, SECA for short.
51:15
Anyway, the Irish are very, very pro-Palestine.
51:21
They're very anti-Israel. They always have been,
51:24
and that's especially true now. They're at the
51:26
forefront of this. So the hotel took it upon
51:28
themselves to, when they found out who was staying
51:31
this block of 70 rooms, they're yeah, we're
51:34
canceling your reservations. The hotel's not
51:37
commenting to the press. I'm of two minds. I
51:41
looked into this to find out if SECA had any
51:43
ties to the state of Israel or to Zionism. They
51:47
don't. This is literally just a conference on
51:51
anti-Semitism. It is not conflating anti
51:55
-Semitism with anti-Zionism. It's a legit organization.
52:00
So this appears to be a high profile example
52:03
of a legitimately anti, an anti-anti
52:07
-Semitism thing that's being affected by
52:13
an anti by anti by anti-anti-Zionism. It's
52:17
interesting. Yeah look the problem is that
52:23
Israel runs around screaming to high heaven that
52:26
they are the home of Jews. That's their thing
52:30
right? We're the home of Jews. If you're a Jewish
52:32
person you can come here. You can steal somebody
52:33
else's land. It will have a plot for you. You have
52:36
the right to return, but the guys we kick out
52:38
don't. Right. They don't have rights to their
52:41
own land. They have the misfortune of being born
52:43
here as opposed to us being in Poland or in the
52:46
United States or somewhere else in Europe. But
52:49
then they also make the argument that anything
52:51
that is said about Zionism or the state of Israel
52:54
is blood libel. Have you ever heard them make
52:57
this argument? It's oh, that's blood libel
52:58
that you're saying. Every time. Every time. Literally.
53:02
Two days ago, Jamarl, I posted on X that Zionism
53:07
is the belief that you're entitled to live on
53:10
someone else's ancestral homeland. You saw that,
53:13
right? As of this morning, there were over 68
53:16
,000 views and over 1,000 responses to it, mostly,
53:23
as you saw, from Zionist bots. And they said
53:31
that. They said that I was guilty of blood libel.
53:35
Blood libel, for the record, is not that. Blood
53:39
libel is this medieval slur against Jews that
53:43
they like to eat babies, literally. Well, not
53:47
Jewish babies, but Christian babies. Okay, for
53:50
the record, no, they didn't. And the point is
53:53
that that was a slur. It was a notorious anti
53:57
-Semitic slur. So they're every time you
53:59
criticize Israel, it's that's a blood libel.
54:02
No it's not unless unless we're accusing
54:04
you of eating babies. No no it's not. You
54:08
don't know what a blood libel is. You hear it
54:11
all the time on Piers Morgan. Yeah it doesn't
54:16
matter what it is that's blood libel. It's
54:18
okay dude for one I don't know how much that's
54:21
sticking. Now there's that and I ordered a medium
54:23
coffee but I got a small blood libel. Yeah the
54:27
problem obviously is you've accused everybody
54:31
of anti-Semitism to such a degree that nobody
54:34
fucking believes it. Right? If you continuously
54:37
call everything anti-Semitism, meaning every
54:40
criticism of Israel, by the way, criticisms that
54:42
are true, hey, you're starving the population.
54:46
Oh, that's anti-Semitic. That's blood libel.
54:49
No, dude, you're really doing that. If that's
54:51
anti-Semitic, then what you're literally saying
54:53
is that starving people is Jewish. And lo, it's
54:57
really not. Which is in and of itself anti-Semitic.
55:00
Even those, walking through with
55:02
IDF military uniforms in the statehouse, and
55:06
you're okay, dude, where are your priorities?
55:08
The U.S. or Israel? That's blood libel because
55:10
you're saying that I have foreign allegiance.
55:12
Yeah, don't. Asshole, you're walking around in
55:14
Israeli uniform. Don't wear a uniform for Croatia,
55:19
right? Any other country. Just don't. Yeah.
55:22
Right. I guess my point is, criticisms,
55:25
legit, honest-to-God criticisms, have gotten
55:28
to the point where they don't want to accept
55:31
so they consider it to be anti-Semitic or bloodline.
55:33
Okay, well, you lose credibility. And that's
55:35
going to affect other groups that may actually
55:37
care about anti-Semitism in real terms. This
55:42
is infinitely obvious to have happen. And
55:46
I don't have a mixed mind of it. This is
55:48
a direct result of Israel and the way that they
55:50
behave. Well, I feel like it's an injustice,
55:52
but it's also kind of fair. It's kind
55:55
of if an anti it's only
55:58
fair that in a way an anti-Semitism conference
56:01
gets caught in the crossfire. Maybe they need
56:03
to issue a statement and say listen we don't
56:06
believe that anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism
56:08
and then maybe they can get their hotel rooms
56:10
back. Yeah that's my proposal. Some delineation
56:14
but it's easy to make. It's easy to look at these
56:17
things and think these things are all equal. If
56:19
I'm the hotel the hotel may not look into the
56:21
group. They may just see anti-Semitic stuff and
56:23
they say, oh, this is nonsense. Mark Carney,
56:28
our last and definitely least story. So Alberta
56:32
is basically starting a, they have a non-binding
56:37
referendum that could theoretically start the
56:40
process toward a future separation vote, kind
56:43
of a Quebec Quad thing. Alberta has a lot
56:45
of oil. It's basically the Texas of Canada.
56:50
70% of Albertans do not want to leave Canada,
56:53
so it's not likely to happen. But anyway, Mark
56:56
Carney went to Alberta, and he's listen,
57:02
guys, the U.S. wants to own us, and they're
57:05
trying to break us, and that's what this is part
57:08
of. I just wanted to take note of the fact that
57:12
we now live in a world where Canada hates us
57:16
and is scared of us. That's due to Donald Trump.
57:19
That's fucking insane. Well, I don't know if
57:22
that's for domestic consumption, though. It's
57:24
kind of the United States saying the Russians
57:26
are interfering in our elections. It
57:28
may be true that the U.S. is perfectly fine
57:30
with Canada breaking up because it's easier to
57:32
manipulate independent states as opposed to this
57:34
country that's kind of one large conglomerate
57:36
country. So maybe, the European Union, for
57:42
example, or for... Or Europe wants to do
57:44
with Russia. They want to break Russia up into
57:46
smaller locations so they can have more control
57:48
over these various regions because each one will
57:50
have their own individual thing. The Soviet
57:52
Union, for example, in which case the U.S. immediately
57:54
starts gobbling up all of these countries in
57:57
order to put that much more pressure on Russia.
57:59
It's possible, I suppose. But Mike Carney could
58:01
also just be doing this for political consumption.
58:04
Totally. But look, there would be no domestic
58:08
political consumption for this to feed into,
58:13
if not for Donald Trump picking a fight with
58:15
our northern neighbor for no reason whatsoever.
58:18
The reason was issues of power. He did
58:23
it because he thought he could get away with
58:25
it. I think it's that simple. Yeah. But also,
58:28
what an asshole. Again, for the
58:32
Canadians, I'm sorry. I apologize. Yeah, this
58:37
is right. None of us, I've literally never heard
58:42
anyone say, you know what, fuck those Canadians.
58:45
Never. I've never heard anyone say that. Ever.
58:47
I've never heard one person say a bad word about
58:50
Canadians. No, we like you guys. It's our president
58:52
who's deranged. Toronto is fantastic. Yeah, yeah.
58:56
Toronto is fantastic. Okay well with that
58:59
that our weekend begins. Robby's got the
59:03
his Bible. I'm adding you in here Robby. Pitch
59:07
your pimp your Bible thing and we're out of here.
59:09
Yeah what's the topic for today? Oh Robby you're
59:14
muted. Today it will be two o'clock
59:18
mountain time. It will be about racism Zionism
59:21
and the Bible and how God is not a respecter
59:24
of your nation and he's not a respecter of people.
59:28
It's a good title. Tune into that. See you guys
59:31
Monday, 9am to 11am. I can thank my pastor for
59:35
that. We got into it this morning. Always getting
59:40
spicy. Bye, everyone. Have a good one, guys.