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Sheriff Aaron Hanson on Shock Gloves · The KFAB Comment Line with Jean Stothert

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Speaker 1: very happy that you are with us today. I am
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Speaker 1: very happy to have Sheriff Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hanson
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Speaker 1: in the studio with us today. You're kind of around
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Speaker 1: here a lot, though, see you a lot in this studio.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they call me I come when they call it.
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Speaker 4: I happy to come.
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Speaker 1: I saw you creeping around in here early. You must
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Speaker 1: have your own key card to get in now, and
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Speaker 1: you're like part of the family.
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Speaker 3: I do not have my own key card, but law
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Speaker 3: enforcement officers typically find a way to get into building.
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Speaker 1: I yes, we didn't want to go into that, but yes,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you did.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us today, and we have
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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. But Sheriff Hansen, the topic
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Speaker 1: of the week is the shock gloves by Compliant Technology.
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Speaker 1: You know when the story first came out that ops
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Speaker 1: realized that these shock gloves were being used, and we
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Speaker 1: have proof now that they did know about it. They
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Speaker 1: were notified in twenty twenty three. The emails have been
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Speaker 1: made public now. They were communicating with the safety officers
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Speaker 1: and our directors in each of the school districts. So
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Speaker 1: this technology had been talked about for years now and
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Speaker 1: they were aware of it. Because a lot of the
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Speaker 1: testifiers at the Oma Public School meeting Wednesday evening.
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Speaker 2: We're saying we didn't know about it, We didn't know
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Speaker 2: about it.
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Speaker 1: And Matt Ray, the principal, our superintendent, said I didn't
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Speaker 1: know about it, but now we know they were communicated
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Speaker 1: with on it, but I want to talk to you
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Speaker 1: about it because I think a lot of people think
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Speaker 1: that the SROs, which are the school resource officers by
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Speaker 1: the way, they've been used in our public schools for
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Speaker 1: over thirty years, but that they are strictly in the
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Speaker 1: city of Omaha, and they're not. The Douglas County Sheriff's
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Speaker 1: Department has SROs in some of our West Omaha schools.
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Speaker 1: Talk about your involvement with the SRO program then, and
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Speaker 1: then we're going to talk about these gloves.
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Speaker 4: Sure.
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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I want to thank Peyton for
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Speaker 3: trying out our new shock socks. I know you haven't
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Speaker 3: been tried yet. I know you're wearing a pair. If
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Speaker 3: Jeane says something, she gives me the high sign, I'll
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Speaker 3: push the button there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah okay, and then Peyton will jump up out of
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Speaker 2: the chair.
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Speaker 3: Yeah I'm kidding temporarily, but yeah, you know, we're we're
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Speaker 3: in a similar situation to OPD. We contract with four
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Speaker 3: different school districts ops. I'm sorry, not Bennington anymore. Bennington
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Speaker 3: pds making ops, Millard, DC West, and Elkhorn to provide
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Speaker 3: school resource officer duties to ten schools in the western
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Speaker 3: part of the county. We've got eight SROs that cover
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Speaker 3: those those ten those ten locations and very similar to
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Speaker 3: to OPD. You know, we were proud of that program.
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Speaker 3: Got some great dedicated SROs and command team and they
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Speaker 3: work really well not only to be a protector of
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Speaker 3: the staff and the students, but you know, to be
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Speaker 3: a coach and a mentor and a friend to the
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Speaker 3: students in the building.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I always thought when even back when
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Speaker 1: I was on the school board that the relationship these
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Speaker 1: sr whether they're Douglas County sheriff are omall police that
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Speaker 1: they create with the students was so positive because the
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Speaker 1: students look at them as part of the staff. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they communicate with them, they learn that police officers and
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Speaker 1: sheriff's deputies they're not scary people.
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Speaker 2: They're good people. They're normal people, and they're there to
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Speaker 2: help them.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 3: I Mean we tell our soros it's like, hey, you're
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Speaker 3: kind of the police chief or your own small little town, right,
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Speaker 3: You're like the single officer at a single police chief
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Speaker 3: ats some small little Nebraska town out in the western
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Speaker 3: part of the state. Because it's true, they have to
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Speaker 3: have a relationship with the staff and the kids, and
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Speaker 3: they are the emissaries of our profession. There's a lot
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Speaker 3: of kids in these schools that someday might become law
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Speaker 3: enforcement officers because of the positive interactions they've had.
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Speaker 4: With our SRO.
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Speaker 3: They may join our Explorer program because of the positive interactions,
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Speaker 3: and even more importantly, it may help them deepen their
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Speaker 3: understanding of why we have law enforcement, how to interact
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Speaker 3: with law enforcement, and so that I think that's a
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Speaker 3: positive thing. And ultimately, they are that security. They are
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Speaker 3: that sheep dog for that flock inside that school in
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Speaker 3: the event that God forbid the unthinkable word to happen.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I've said this before on the air,
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Speaker 1: but when we have high schools with two thousand plus
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Speaker 1: students that to your point you just made, that's the
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Speaker 1: size of many small cities in Nebraska. A city and
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Speaker 1: they would have police, and these are like small little cities.
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Speaker 1: And when you have that many students in a school
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Speaker 1: day after day after day, you know, someday God forbid.
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Speaker 1: But somebody, someday, somebody is going to make a bad choice.
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Speaker 3: And they do, and I mean honestly, And here's here's
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Speaker 3: the thing we don't when assaults or crimes happen in schools,
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Speaker 3: and they happen more often than I think that people
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Speaker 3: would like to think, we don't publicize it, right.
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Speaker 4: We rarely talk about.
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Speaker 3: It because we value our relationship with each of the districts.
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Speaker 3: When one of our SROs is assaulted or there's a
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Speaker 3: serious crime that occurs, you know, the last thing that
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Speaker 3: we want to do is, you know, paint with a
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Speaker 3: broad brush on an entire district of what happens, you know,
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Speaker 3: the result of what happened with one kid or a
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Speaker 3: couple kids. But the challenges do happen. And now I'm
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Speaker 3: starting to question, well, maybe we do need to paint
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Speaker 3: that picture, and maybe we do need to talk to
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Speaker 3: the districts because what I saw here recently from the
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Speaker 3: Omaha Public School School Board, yes, was concerning you know,
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Speaker 3: when I go to the dentist, the dentist just drills
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Speaker 3: my teeth or puts a filling in or could they
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Speaker 3: I don't say, well, you know, drill over here, or
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Speaker 3: don't you know, put the novacaine shot here. I the
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Speaker 3: dentist is trained to know their profession, and if I
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Speaker 3: start dabbling in their profession, bad things are going to
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Speaker 3: happen to my teeth in my mouth. Absolutely, very similar
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Speaker 3: thing here in my opinion.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you know, going back to your officers, and
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Speaker 1: they are all they are all active deputies of the
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Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department with OPD. Some of them are active and
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Speaker 1: some are retirees. And I'll get into that in a
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Speaker 1: minute because that makes a difference. But you know, there
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Speaker 1: is no bigger deterrent to I think any kind of
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Speaker 1: a crime or a bad incident that could happen in
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Speaker 1: a school, like a school shooting, because they do happen,
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Speaker 1: and they did happen in Miller several years ago when somebody,
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Speaker 1: a disgruntled student was suspended, came back in with the gun,
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Speaker 1: shot the principal and killed the assistant principal. But there's
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Speaker 1: no bigger deterrent in my estimation than a cruiser parked
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Speaker 1: in front of a school and the knowledge that there
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Speaker 1: is an armed officer in that school.
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Speaker 3: It happens all the time. March of March of this year,
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Speaker 3: a twelve year old girl was brutally assaulted on a
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Speaker 3: school bus up in North Omaha by a group of kids.
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Speaker 3: Her parents were outraged. That made the news that was
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Speaker 3: pretty well known. August twenty twenty five, there was a cutting,
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Speaker 3: a stabbing. Two kids were stabbed at Central High School.
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Speaker 3: September twenty twenty five, a student stabbed a teacher at
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Speaker 3: Northwest High School. September twenty twenty four, a fourteen year
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Speaker 3: old shot a fifteen year old on the campus at
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Speaker 3: Northwest High School. Look, these are real challenges, right, and
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Speaker 3: so when law enforcement comes to the table and you know,
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Speaker 3: I know we use the term less lethal tools, I'm
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Speaker 3: going to start changing that terminology to life saving tools
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Speaker 3: because in this case, and we don't have the glove
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Speaker 3: at Douglas County Sheriff's.
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Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to get to that. You do not
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Speaker 2: we are not trained, and you do not.
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Speaker 4: Have We don't have.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean we don't It doesn't mean we're opposed
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Speaker 3: to it. We just don't have it, right, But I
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Speaker 3: appreciate the fact the Chief, Smatter and OPD are thoughtful
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Speaker 3: enough to always look for that next life saving tool,
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Speaker 3: because again, when you're talking about an individuals, a student
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Speaker 3: or adult, or someone that's coming onto the school property
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Speaker 3: who is assaultive or actively resisting, that is not a
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Speaker 3: scenario for de escalation. De Escalation is to avoid the
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Speaker 3: violence once you are already past the threshold of violence.
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Speaker 2: That's where de.
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Speaker 3: Escalation is, unfortunately, to reoview mirror, and now you have
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Speaker 3: to utilize either force options or life saving tools to
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Speaker 3: try to stop that behavior and bring that person into control.
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Speaker 3: Here's why I always tell people.
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Speaker 2: That you are highly trained to do.
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Speaker 3: That exactly in a way that minimizes risk not only
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Speaker 3: to the people in the area, but to the suspect themselves.
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Speaker 3: And I often tell people get tired of hearing me
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Speaker 3: say this at work. When it comes to tough issues,
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Speaker 3: two things are usually true at the same time. Okay,
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Speaker 3: so let's look at the issue with the glove or
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Speaker 3: fill in the blank. On any life saving tool law
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Speaker 3: enforcement used in the school. It is completely reasonable for
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Speaker 3: a parent who doesn't know what these tools are, how
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Speaker 3: they work, or how they're going to be implemented.
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Speaker 4: To have questions.
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Speaker 3: Okay, it's completely reasonable for a parent to not want
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Speaker 3: their kid to be subjected to any use of force police.
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Speaker 3: That's completely reasonable. But on the other hand, it's also
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Speaker 3: reasonable and true that law enforcement wants to add as
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Speaker 3: many life saving tools to the mix as we can
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Speaker 3: to avoid physical force, to avoid injury. And it's also
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Speaker 3: true that parents want their good kids in the school
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Speaker 3: to be protected absolutely from the dangerous kids. Right, So
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Speaker 3: when you have a scenario, right.
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Speaker 1: It's a school district's responsibility to do that.
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Speaker 3: It's a school district's responsibility. But I think it's even
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Speaker 3: more so it's a school district's responsibility to be the
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Speaker 3: adult to slow down the conversation and say, you know what,
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Speaker 3: do think can be true? At the same time, let's
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Speaker 3: work this problem back to the middle, and let's find
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Speaker 3: a reasonable solution with all all the facts, not a
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Speaker 3: politically charged emotional react.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I do think I mean some of those parents.
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Speaker 1: I watched that public hearing at OPS the other night.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't there, but I watched it. Some of these
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Speaker 1: the name calling, I mean some of these parents actually
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Speaker 1: calling the police clansmen, calling them bullies, calling them a
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Speaker 1: lot worse than that. And it seemed like this, this
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Speaker 1: group of maybe twenty five parents that were irate, really
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Speaker 1: got the school board spun up. And then I think
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Speaker 1: Matt Ray got caught in between and just says, okay,
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Speaker 1: I didn't know about this, Well, Matt Ray, you should
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Speaker 1: have you know the district was contacted in twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 2: You should have known about it.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know about these students that had the equipment
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Speaker 1: was used on last year.
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Speaker 2: You should have but.
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Speaker 1: To react immediately and say these gloves, these compliance gloves
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Speaker 1: are not going to be used in ops. I think
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Speaker 1: he reacted too soon, in my opinion. Sheriff Ants. Aaron
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Speaker 1: Hanson is with us this morning. Get your opinion on that.
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Speaker 4: Well, my opinion is this.
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Speaker 3: I'm all for people getting animated and invested in important topics.
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Speaker 3: And here's here's some of the topics I wish the
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Speaker 3: school board and parents would be animated and invested in meetings.
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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four school year and
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five school year, we
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Speaker 3: had a sixty percent chronic absenteeism rate in high schools
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Speaker 3: and ops true.
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Speaker 1: And see we've talked about that on this show with
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Speaker 1: one of the Millard School board members, Mike Kennedy. That
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Speaker 1: is a problem. That is something that we should all
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Speaker 1: the parents should be concerned with.
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Speaker 3: That not only impacts those kids and those families, that
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Speaker 3: impacts their ability to have marketable job skills.
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Speaker 4: And soft skills in the future.
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Speaker 3: How can we expect kids to replenish our workforce when
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Speaker 3: they graduate from high school if sixty percent of them
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Speaker 3: aren't even showing up to high school. And also twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty five data, you know, thirty eight percent of OPS
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Speaker 3: students third grade eighth grade level do not have proficiency
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Speaker 3: in reading and writing at their grade level. That's well
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Speaker 3: below the sixty percent proficiency rate across the rest of
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Speaker 3: the state. That's a problem. I want my school board
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Speaker 3: I live in OPS, Okay. Number one, I want my
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Speaker 3: school board members to show up to the meetings. That's
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Speaker 3: number one. But number two, I want them to be
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Speaker 3: animated and passionate and engaged. And I want people filling
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Speaker 3: those school board meetings talking about these issues.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 3: I get it. It's fair to ask about police issues
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Speaker 3: and police interactions. One hundred percent. I think it's a
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Speaker 3: worthwhile conversation. But we have to have the adult, reasonable, rationable,
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Speaker 3: rational conversation. It's not just bomb throwings in emotions, right decision.
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Speaker 2: And calling names.
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Speaker 1: And you know, Sheriff Hansen, let's go back when we
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Speaker 1: were talking about if if Matt Ray, Superintendent of OPS says, now,
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Speaker 1: none of the SROs are going to have these shot gloves.
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Speaker 1: The first well, I will say Matt Ray should run
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Speaker 1: ops and Todd Schmaters should run the Ama Police Department,
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Speaker 1: and you should run the Douglas County Sheriff's Department.
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Speaker 2: And they shouldn't be telling each other what to do.
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Speaker 1: But now that they they say that they will not
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Speaker 1: carry him part of the o Almah Police Department. You
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Speaker 1: are a police officer for years. Uniform is a gun,
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Speaker 1: is a baton, is pepper spray and those that are
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Speaker 1: trained a taser? Correct, And nobody is going to say
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Speaker 1: these are I don't want those officers carrying a gun now,
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Speaker 1: or I don't want those officers carrying a baton now.
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Speaker 1: That's part of the uniform. And it's the same with
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Speaker 1: the sheriff's department.
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Speaker 4: Correct.
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Speaker 3: And Number one, I want to say, Matt Ray, I
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Speaker 3: think he's a great superta I do as good at
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Speaker 3: what he's great at as craft. I think he's in
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Speaker 3: a tough position because you know, any superintendent has to
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Speaker 3: answer to the to the school board, and that's ultimately
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Speaker 3: it's a schood my opinion.
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Speaker 1: They report to the school board, but they are very
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Speaker 1: responsive to the parents too, and By the way, Matt
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Speaker 1: Ray's wife was an Oman police sie.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I love they're both fantastic people.
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Speaker 3: Yes, as an elected official, as a police executive, I
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Speaker 3: look over to my counterparts on the OPS school board,
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Speaker 3: the elected officials, they should have been the ones to
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Speaker 3: kind of pull back on the reins on that meeting
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Speaker 3: bring and just say, hey, you know what, let's deescalate.
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Speaker 3: You know you want police to escalakes for your opinions.
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Speaker 4: Let's deescalate the emotion.
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Speaker 3: Let's step back, Let's take some time, and let's figure
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Speaker 3: out what's most important. Because again, two things are often
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Speaker 3: true at the same time. You have to work it
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Speaker 3: backwards into the middle to find that that smart balance.
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Speaker 3: And honestly, that's what most people in our community want.
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Speaker 3: They're tied. They grow so weary of the bomb throwing,
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Speaker 3: they grow so weary of the name calling. People just
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Speaker 3: want adults in leadership, and.
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Speaker 2: It's become rabid lately. It totally have.
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Speaker 1: Now you talk a little bit about I want to
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Speaker 1: know this agreement that you, Douglas County Sheriff's Department has
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Speaker 1: with the school district, and I'm sure it's the same
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Speaker 1: with Omaha Police Department. You're familiar with that one too.
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Speaker 1: Is the agreement between the school and the resource officer
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Speaker 1: and who pays.
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Speaker 3: It's a contractual agreement, just like many contractual agreements that
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Speaker 3: law enforcement or government will have with other subdivisions of government.
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Speaker 3: And so usually every two years or three years, there's
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Speaker 3: a new contract that will be drafted up between the
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Speaker 3: districts and the sheriff's office and it'll say how much
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Speaker 3: they're going to pay, and in our case, they'll pay
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Speaker 3: fifty percent of the salary and benefits of a of
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Speaker 3: a full time deputy. Okay, ultimately it still is the
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Speaker 3: Sheriff's office that is the employer. They're not the employee
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Speaker 3: of the of the school district.
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Speaker 2: You split the salary, we split? Is that the same
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Speaker 2: with OPD?
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Speaker 3: I don't know exactly how we do it, but I
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Speaker 3: know that historically we split the cost of the salary.
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Speaker 3: And there's there's also some some factors in the agreement
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Speaker 3: that you know will dictate how the relationship will continue.
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Speaker 3: But one important part of the agreement is the severability clause.
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Speaker 3: And so if either party it's it's in the contract.
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Speaker 3: If either party determines that that contractual professional relationship is
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Speaker 3: no longer in the best interest of either side.
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Speaker 4: You can give ninety days notice and you can you can.
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Speaker 3: Leave, You canvership, can sever it, you can try to,
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Speaker 3: you know, maybe renegotiate a new agreement.
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Speaker 4: You can sever the relationship.
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Speaker 3: And I think one thing about a relationship is you
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Speaker 3: can't be afraid to walk away if things aren't working,
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Speaker 3: so on all sides, on both sides, and I think
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Speaker 3: I don't see it ever coming to that, right, because
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Speaker 3: we hope, not hopefully. What we just experienced with the
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Speaker 3: OPS board is a good reminder to everybody that, hey,
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Speaker 3: look we're not des moin right that audit emotionally said
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Speaker 3: we want school resource officers out of our schools four
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Speaker 3: years ago, and one year later that a double shooting
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Speaker 3: at their high school, two kids killed.
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Speaker 2: It can happen, and it will happened one of these days, right.
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Speaker 3: And so you know, I think it's a good reminder
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Speaker 3: for everybody. Look, the bomb throwers are going to throw bombs.
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Speaker 3: Let's stay focused on the adults in the conversation, regardless
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Speaker 3: of what political party they're in. Let's stay focused on
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Speaker 3: the facts. Let's make factual choices, not emotionally based.
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Speaker 1: True and Sheriff Aaron Hanson of Douglas County is with
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Speaker 1: us today. But at the same time, I still think
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Speaker 1: the number one priority that that every school board and
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Speaker 1: superintendent and every mayor and every sheriff has is to
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Speaker 1: keep citizens safe one hundred percent.
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Speaker 3: That's that's why we have government. Ultimately, it's the safety.
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Speaker 3: It's the safety of the of the public, and it's infrastructure.
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Speaker 3: And once you get beyond that, everything else is more
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Speaker 3: of a more of a want.
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Speaker 4: Not a need.
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Speaker 3: We need to be safe and have streets that are
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Speaker 3: that are safe so we can we can drive.
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Speaker 1: And trust street lights working and all of those things
18:54
Speaker 1: are part of public safety. But again, parents that I
18:59
Speaker 1: was looking online the other night, and of course my
19:01
Speaker 1: parents went all through the My kids went all through
19:03
Speaker 1: the Millard School, so I was.
19:04
Speaker 2: A parent too.
19:06
Speaker 1: But a lot of people saying we need just what
19:08
Speaker 1: we're talking about, We need the police out.
19:09
Speaker 2: We don't want the police out. Parents, you don't want that.
19:13
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, the biggest something is going to happen.
19:17
Speaker 1: There is somebody that is going to make a bad
19:19
Speaker 1: decision one day, and the biggest deterrent of somebody busting
19:23
Speaker 1: in a school is a cruiser out front and an
19:26
Speaker 1: armed officer inside.
19:27
Speaker 3: Well, think about who is going to be left holding
19:29
Speaker 3: the bag when either there's not an officer in the building,
19:34
Speaker 3: or an officer couldn't get there soon enough, like in
19:36
Speaker 3: the case of des Moines, or if officers life saving
19:40
Speaker 3: tools are limited, what's next Taser's OC spray, you know,
19:45
Speaker 3: and something happens, either a higher level of force has
19:47
Speaker 3: to be employed on a student or there's not an
19:50
Speaker 3: appropriate force response and a student gets hurt. Who's going
19:54
Speaker 3: to be left holding the bag? I'm gonna tell you
19:55
Speaker 3: right now. Unfortunately, who's going to let be holding the bag?
19:58
Speaker 3: Is that poor police officer, deputy on the scene, Just
20:02
Speaker 3: some normal Joe or Jan who's got a family and
20:06
Speaker 3: you know, pay their house payment and all they want
20:08
Speaker 3: to do is do a good job and they're not
20:10
Speaker 3: involved in all the politics. Unfortunately, it's going to be
20:12
Speaker 3: that cop and the kid that's okay, that's going to
20:15
Speaker 3: pay the price, that's right, because the politicians will run
20:18
Speaker 3: for the hills so fast.
20:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, not my fault and blame the cop.
20:21
Speaker 1: Well, you know, in the beginning, when this first came out,
20:23
Speaker 1: I first knew about it with a post that the
20:26
Speaker 1: young Democrats put out and calling for a press conference
20:32
Speaker 1: on Monday at one o'clock and they were furious about
20:36
Speaker 1: these shot gloves, and of course in their original press
20:39
Speaker 1: release it was and we all know that Mayor Jean
20:42
Speaker 1: Stothard signed off on these again trying to point the
20:45
Speaker 1: finger and alls. I've said on this show, and I've
20:48
Speaker 1: said many times, is yep, I sure did, and I'd
20:51
Speaker 1: do it again because it was it was the right
20:54
Speaker 1: thing to do.
20:55
Speaker 2: It was.
20:55
Speaker 1: I signed off on it after a seven to zero
20:58
Speaker 1: vote of the city Council, without any discussion at all.
21:01
Speaker 1: Four Democrats, three Republicans, they all agreed a nonpartisan agreement
21:06
Speaker 1: to buy these gloves, sixty six thousand dollars worth of gloves,
21:10
Speaker 1: and sure I signed off on it.
21:12
Speaker 2: It was the right thing to do. I'd do it again.
21:14
Speaker 3: And it's not for discipline. I mean, that's the thing
21:16
Speaker 3: we need, and that's where the adult conversation needs to
21:19
Speaker 3: come back into the mix. This is not for discipline.
21:23
Speaker 3: This is for situations, any of these life saving tools
21:26
Speaker 3: to de escalate. You're again, you're past the de escalation phase.
21:31
Speaker 3: You're to the point where someone is actually physically being
21:34
Speaker 3: dangerous or physically being disruptive, trending towards dangerous and you
21:40
Speaker 3: have no other option than to implement some action, whether
21:43
Speaker 3: it's physical response or using some type of life saving tool.
21:48
Speaker 3: And again, we're not talking about a kid being late
21:51
Speaker 3: for class, right or you find him smoking in the bathroom.
21:54
Speaker 2: And no, that is not going to happen to talking.
21:57
Speaker 4: About someone's that's acting in a dangerous man putting other.
22:01
Speaker 1: People in anymore than you would tase them if they
22:03
Speaker 1: were smoking in the bathroom.
22:04
Speaker 4: Exactly.
22:05
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been taste, I've been tased on purpose,
22:07
Speaker 3: and I've been tased on accident and no fun. Taser's
22:10
Speaker 3: a great tool. I love it. It's perfect life saving tool.
22:15
Speaker 3: But if we can avoid a student being you know,
22:20
Speaker 3: exposed to a taser, even if it was a legal,
22:22
Speaker 3: legitimate response, because we had a lesser option that gave
22:28
Speaker 3: a pain compliance stimulus selection, I'm in support of that.
22:32
Speaker 1: I agree, And you know, Toad Schmater was very elemant
22:35
Speaker 1: on the radio on Tuesday morning with Scott Vorhe said, Okay,
22:39
Speaker 1: you don't want to use these compliant gloves, okay, but
22:43
Speaker 1: then we will use our other tools, and that could
22:45
Speaker 1: be the taser that could be a baton, that could
22:47
Speaker 1: be a gun.
22:49
Speaker 3: Chiefs Motter did a great job not only in his words,
22:51
Speaker 3: but also when he put his Resident Expert Officer Civatano
22:56
Speaker 3: out there to explain to the media the way that
22:59
Speaker 3: this life saving tool works. And I think that OPD
23:05
Speaker 3: really tried hard to kind of bring this back into
23:07
Speaker 3: a professional, rational discussion, and we needed more elected officials
23:13
Speaker 3: helping nudget that way, not throwing more gas on the fire.
23:17
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of regrets in my opinion.
23:20
Speaker 1: Aaron Hanson is with us, and I just got to
23:21
Speaker 1: hand it to you one time before we go off
23:23
Speaker 1: the air. What else is going on between you and
23:26
Speaker 1: your occupying army.
23:30
Speaker 3: A lot of positive things we're seeing, and that's a
23:32
Speaker 3: joke for working really well with our partners and OPD.
23:37
Speaker 3: I mean, every day we're seeing positive work being done,
23:40
Speaker 3: whether it's of course you are slowing down dangerous drivers,
23:43
Speaker 3: going after dangerous offenders. But the real area where we're
23:47
Speaker 3: growing right now is the court is relying on the
23:50
Speaker 3: Sheriff's office more and more to help supervise these high risk,
23:54
Speaker 3: mentally ill not guilty by reason of insanity individuals that
23:58
Speaker 3: before this really no one was functionally supervising, and so
24:02
Speaker 3: the role of the sheriff is becoming more and more
24:04
Speaker 3: important to keep our entire county safe from these high risk,
24:09
Speaker 3: mentally ill individuals that unfortunately are in our community with us.
24:13
Speaker 1: And in the last five years that has escalated more
24:16
Speaker 1: than we've ever seen it. Brenda Beetle was talking about
24:19
Speaker 1: that not long ago, about we're seeing more and more
24:21
Speaker 1: and more of these and I think it's important to
24:23
Speaker 1: point out that your department, the Douglas County Sheriff's Department,
24:26
Speaker 1: does cover the Hall of Justice where all the courts are.
24:29
Speaker 2: That's your responsible.
24:30
Speaker 4: Yes, we cover and city Hall too.
24:33
Speaker 3: Pairing it down from county wide jurisdiction, We've got the
24:36
Speaker 3: unincorporated Douglas County. Then we've got the Hall of Justice,
24:38
Speaker 3: City Hall, any county facility, the county Hospital, Corrections, the
24:44
Speaker 3: youth Center is our primary jurisdiction.
24:47
Speaker 2: And calling you an occupying army was a little jab.
24:50
Speaker 3: You know.
24:50
Speaker 1: I love the Dougas County Sheriff's Department and also Sheriff Hanson.
24:54
Speaker 2: There has always been a very.
24:57
Speaker 1: Good relationship between the Sheriff's Department the Omaha Police Department.
25:01
Speaker 1: There's always been that. It's there's some there's a lot
25:04
Speaker 1: of cooperation.
25:05
Speaker 4: Here's a deal. Politics is a contact sport. I get it.
25:08
Speaker 2: You know, it's a blood sport anymore.
25:11
Speaker 3: But you know, the nice thing is when you look
25:13
Speaker 3: at the two agencies, they work together well, they complement
25:17
Speaker 3: each other well. Abs we're so fortunate in Douglas County.
25:20
Speaker 3: We've got the best municipal police department in my opinion,
25:24
Speaker 3: and I'm biased because that was where I came from.
25:26
Speaker 3: So my two brothers still work hopefully my daughter will
25:29
Speaker 3: work there here pretty soon.
25:30
Speaker 4: And your son and well, he's a firefighter.
25:32
Speaker 2: He's a firefighter, that's right.
25:34
Speaker 3: But but we've got the best police department in the
25:36
Speaker 3: nation and one of the best police chiefs in the nation,
25:40
Speaker 3: and the best police chief I've ever worked with in
25:42
Speaker 3: my career at OPD in touch Maner paired up with
25:46
Speaker 3: in my opinion, the best, the best sheriff's office in
25:48
Speaker 3: the nation, and so we've really got a great one
25:51
Speaker 3: two punch combo. When it comes to professional, community oriented.
25:55
Speaker 1: Launch, we absolutely do and we are very fortunate to
25:58
Speaker 1: have that. In our crimes to statistics show it. I
26:01
Speaker 1: always go back to that our crime alls you get
26:04
Speaker 1: to look is at our crime statistics and Douglas County
26:07
Speaker 1: and in Omaha, and you could see how good a
26:09
Speaker 1: job people feel safe here. That's the one thing I
26:12
Speaker 1: hear a lot with the College World series when people
26:14
Speaker 1: say it's so clean here and it's so safe here,
26:17
Speaker 1: and I feel like, man, if you could have a clean,
26:19
Speaker 1: safe city, you have won right there.
26:21
Speaker 2: It's a really good thing. It's good.
26:23
Speaker 1: It's important to point out that the Douglas County Sheriff
26:27
Speaker 1: is required by state statue. Every county in Nebraska has
26:31
Speaker 1: an elected sheriff in this area. Omaha now occupies a
26:37
Speaker 1: little over eighty percent of Douglas County, but still Douglas
26:41
Speaker 1: County is all I mean, Omaha is in Douglas County.
26:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say if you're looking at population, so we
26:49
Speaker 3: actually I'm talking about land mass. Land mass actually unincorporated
26:54
Speaker 3: Douglas County is about half of the county. So it's
26:56
Speaker 3: like the upper you know, if you take it from
27:00
Speaker 3: Dutch Hall Road and Missouri River down to Platte River
27:04
Speaker 3: at the Equivlana Harrison, kind of that upper quadrant is
27:07
Speaker 3: unincorporated Douglas County with some small you know, Bennington and
27:10
Speaker 3: Valley in there, and then the lower half of the
27:12
Speaker 3: city of Oma, so Land mass. It's kind of an
27:14
Speaker 3: almost a fifty to fifty mix population. You know, we
27:18
Speaker 3: have one hundred and ten thousand people in unincorporated Douglas
27:22
Speaker 3: County that we're responsible for their primary jurisdiction, not to
27:25
Speaker 3: mention the courthouse and other areas down there. So i'd
27:27
Speaker 3: say it's about one fifth. We're responsible for about one
27:30
Speaker 3: fifth of the overall county population.
27:33
Speaker 2: Okay.
27:33
Speaker 1: And just before we break here, Peyton's given a stink
27:36
Speaker 1: eye over there.
27:37
Speaker 2: He wants us to bring.
27:38
Speaker 4: You want to hit the button?
27:39
Speaker 2: He's yeah, oh on, okay, okay, okay, I'm good. Let's
27:42
Speaker 2: hit on the shock on the shock socks. I like that.
27:46
Speaker 1: Sheriff Hanson, how many deputies do you have in the
27:49
Speaker 1: Douglas County Sheriffs Department.
27:50
Speaker 3: We're authorized one hundred and sixty five deputies, and we've
27:53
Speaker 3: got a little over one hundred civilians.
27:55
Speaker 1: Okay, and how many on the street, how many on
27:58
Speaker 1: out on the street, I mean, and how many in
28:01
Speaker 1: the courthouse.
28:01
Speaker 3: Well, I'd say about half of our total agency is
28:05
Speaker 3: committed to serving the courts in various capacities, whether it
28:10
Speaker 3: be courtouse, security, warrants service, civil process, and then civilians
28:15
Speaker 3: that support them. And then the other half works out
28:19
Speaker 3: on the road, whether it's a ROE patrol or criminal
28:23
Speaker 3: investigations or special operations or SRO. So it's kind of
28:27
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty.
28:30
Speaker 4: Type.
28:30
Speaker 2: Agentcy good deal.
28:31
Speaker 1: Sheriff Hanson, Aaron Hanson, Douglas County Sheriff, and I can't
28:35
Speaker 1: even say your name, Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hanson. Thank
28:38
Speaker 1: you so much for being with us today and thanks
28:40
Speaker 1: for the great job that you and your deputies do
28:42
Speaker 1: for keeping all of us safe.
28:44
Speaker 4: Great. I'll take those socks back now, yeah.
28:46
Speaker 1: Hand them over Peyton again. Once again, think Douglas County Sheriff,
28:51
Speaker 1: Aaron Hanson. Sometimes I use the term interchangeably. I said,
28:55
Speaker 1: Douglas County Sheriff's Office, our Douglas County Sheriff's Department own
29:00
Speaker 1: as dcso Douglas County Sheriff's Office. But great, the Sheriff
29:06
Speaker 1: Aaron Hanson does a great job.
29:08
Speaker 4: You know.
29:08
Speaker 2: He was an Omah police officer.
29:10
Speaker 1: He was president of OPOA, the Omaha Police Officers Association
29:14
Speaker 1: for a while. When I was first running for mayor
29:18
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. He was president of the union and
29:22
Speaker 1: we had our days together that we didn't agree on things,
29:25
Speaker 1: but I think he does a great job, does a
29:28
Speaker 1: great job with that Sheriff's department, and I thought it's
29:30
Speaker 1: interesting to bring him in because it's not only the
29:33
Speaker 1: Omaha Police Department that has school resources officers. It is
29:37
Speaker 1: Douglas County two and those far western schools we have
29:40
Speaker 1: and to just really really reemphasize what an important job
29:45
Speaker 1: that armed officer is within a school. And the point
29:49
Speaker 1: that Todd Schmater has made over and over and over
29:52
Speaker 1: is if you forbid the Omaha Police Department from wearing
29:57
Speaker 1: the glove and using the glove technology in our schools,
30:01
Speaker 1: than if an incident happens, we have to go to
30:04
Speaker 1: the next technology. Are the next thing that we have,
30:09
Speaker 1: which would either what like I said before, on their
30:12
Speaker 1: duty belts, it's mace, it's a baton, it's a gun
30:15
Speaker 1: that's part of their uniform. Nobody's going to tell them
30:17
Speaker 1: that they can't have that on part of their uniform.
30:20
Speaker 1: Only officers that have been trained in tasing can carry
30:25
Speaker 1: a taser, so not all do that. On our school
30:29
Speaker 1: resource officers. All of the Douglas County Sheriff's Department or
30:33
Speaker 1: office are active deputies of the Sheriff's Department with Omaha Police,
30:39
Speaker 1: some are active officers and some are retirees. The retirees
30:44
Speaker 1: cannot use a taser, only the active officers. So if
30:48
Speaker 1: you have a retiree he's a certified police officer in
30:53
Speaker 1: your building, he's not carrying a taser. But the other
30:56
Speaker 1: part he could use would be, like I said, mace,
30:58
Speaker 1: a baton, or a gun. And so that's the options
31:01
Speaker 1: they have. They are always there to de escalate, they're
31:04
Speaker 1: not there to use their weapons.
31:07
Speaker 5: Geen, we had a great interview there with Sheriff Aaron Hanson,
31:10
Speaker 5: and I got a few emails here and we talked
31:13
Speaker 5: a little bit about this off the air, and I
31:15
Speaker 5: think this is a good conversation that we should bring
31:17
Speaker 5: to the show. This comes from Andrew a comment at
31:20
Speaker 5: kfab dot com. Quote informing the public about the shot
31:24
Speaker 5: gloves was poorly done.
31:27
Speaker 2: It had people known.
31:29
Speaker 5: If people had known or understood what they were or
31:32
Speaker 5: how they are used, I doubt people would have been upset.
31:36
Speaker 1: Well, I would hope that people would before they would
31:38
Speaker 1: get upset. Would learn a little bit more about them
31:42
Speaker 1: and why we chose to use them. And again, you
31:45
Speaker 1: know when the Young Democrats came out with their press
31:48
Speaker 1: release and calling for a press conference on Monday at
31:51
Speaker 1: one o'clock, you know, part of their narrative was, of
31:54
Speaker 1: course Jeene Stothard signed this into law. They had the
31:58
Speaker 1: wrong date and what they were saying was wrong. But
32:01
Speaker 1: yes I did, and I'd do it again today and
32:04
Speaker 1: it was I signed it into law after the city
32:06
Speaker 1: Council voted seven to zero, four Democrats three Republicans without
32:10
Speaker 1: a question. In twenty twenty three is when we notified
32:16
Speaker 1: the schools that we were looking into this technology, notified
32:21
Speaker 1: the safety directors of all the schools, talked about it,
32:24
Speaker 1: never question, all thought it was a good idea. So
32:27
Speaker 1: for those saying Oma Public Schools, and I'm not just
32:31
Speaker 1: saying criticizing that board or the superintendent Matt Ray, but
32:35
Speaker 1: you should have known about it because it was communicated
32:37
Speaker 1: with you. And when Matt Ray was saying, why didn't
32:41
Speaker 1: I know that several of our kids in ops the
32:45
Speaker 1: glove was used on them, Well I would throw that
32:48
Speaker 1: right back at Superintendent Ray. Why didn't you know you
32:51
Speaker 1: have safety directors safety officers. It's not up to the
32:56
Speaker 1: city or the Oma Police Department to hand feed information. Now,
33:00
Speaker 1: when they get new equipment, sometimes upgraded equipment, we don't
33:05
Speaker 1: always do an announcement. There's not a big announcement that
33:09
Speaker 1: they're buying new guns, or they're buying new bullets or
33:12
Speaker 1: you know. I remembered when we upgraded and made all
33:15
Speaker 1: of them all of them, bought body cameras for all
33:18
Speaker 1: of them that had automatic triggers, and I talked a
33:21
Speaker 1: little bit about it in public, but it wasn't a
33:23
Speaker 1: big announcement. And automatic triggers means whenever they pull their
33:27
Speaker 1: revolver or pull their service weapon, then that body camera
33:32
Speaker 1: automatically turned on. There was never going to be a
33:34
Speaker 1: question again about they forgot to turn their body camera on.
33:37
Speaker 1: So a lot of these things that the police officers
33:40
Speaker 1: and the police department have for their use isn't made
33:44
Speaker 1: with a big announcement. But I do think that some
33:48
Speaker 1: of the parents that were testifying name calling just assuming
33:54
Speaker 1: that these gloves were going to be used Willy Nelly
33:56
Speaker 1: on these students.
33:57
Speaker 2: I mean, that was way an over reaction in my opinion.
34:01
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And this was something we were wrestling with during
34:04
Speaker 5: the break is in accordance with Andrew. I said, I
34:07
Speaker 5: feel like the presentation of the shot gloves was done poorly,
34:11
Speaker 5: and Gene you said, well, they didn't present it.
34:13
Speaker 2: They don't have to present these things.
34:15
Speaker 5: So I guess what I mean is after the Nebraska
34:19
Speaker 5: Young Democrats came out and announced this and accused you
34:22
Speaker 5: of doing this on the last day of your the
34:24
Speaker 5: day you lost the election, which was wrong. But after that,
34:28
Speaker 5: I felt like that there should have been some sort
34:30
Speaker 5: of comment or announcement that would give the public a
34:34
Speaker 5: better idea and informed them properly. And then Tim sent
34:38
Speaker 5: an email that said the crowd that was in an
34:41
Speaker 5: uproar are definitely adopt moonbats, and that was in.
34:46
Speaker 2: His email, adopted moonbats.
34:47
Speaker 5: And I think that sometimes these voices of people that
34:50
Speaker 5: are upset are so loud, yes, so aggressive, so hostile,
34:55
Speaker 5: even if there's so few of them, that somebody in
34:59
Speaker 5: a position of power or leadership just kind of says,
35:03
Speaker 5: I don't know if I want to deal with this.
35:04
Speaker 1: Well, they're reacting to it, and you know, it seemed
35:06
Speaker 1: to me like after you know, the Young Democrat press
35:09
Speaker 1: relief didn't get a lot of attention, but the school
35:13
Speaker 1: board meeting did and so it seems like to me,
35:16
Speaker 1: these gloves were introduced to the community with showing a
35:20
Speaker 1: lot of irate people at a school board meeting furious.
35:23
Speaker 2: That's how the media covered it.
35:24
Speaker 5: They didn't they didn't talk to the to the officer
35:26
Speaker 5: there that was demonstrating the shock gloves.
35:28
Speaker 1: They and that shame on them. I mean, they didn't
35:31
Speaker 1: even talk to the officer that was there. They just
35:34
Speaker 1: let parent after parent name calling, accusing them of things
35:38
Speaker 1: that were absolutely false, and the school board reacted to it,
35:41
Speaker 1: the superintendent reacted to it. But you know, there was
35:45
Speaker 1: a meeting called by Chief Schmater this morning as we speak,
35:49
Speaker 1: at ten o'clock and Chief Schmater's office, and he invited
35:53
Speaker 1: all of the SROs to be there, including those out
35:58
Speaker 1: of opsts. He invited Millard, he invited every SRO mandatory
36:05
Speaker 1: meeting in his office, and he invited Superintendent Ray. And
36:09
Speaker 1: now I don't know if Superintendent Ray will come, but
36:11
Speaker 1: he invited him and he said, I'd like you to
36:14
Speaker 1: be there because I'd like you to look face to
36:16
Speaker 1: face to these SROs and we'll have that conversation that
36:20
Speaker 1: you should have had before you reacted.
36:22
Speaker 5: A lot going on with these shot gloves, and this
36:24
Speaker 5: is going to continue to be a relevant conversation as
36:27
Speaker 5: time goes. On news radio eleven ten KFAB, the gene'st
36:30
Speaker 5: Author Show, the KFAB comment Line. I'm gonna get one
36:33
Speaker 5: more phone call in here about the gloves with Mark,
36:36
Speaker 5: but Gene, I want to bring something up to you
36:39
Speaker 5: when we're done here, Mark, thank you so much for
36:41
Speaker 5: calling Gene st author in the kfa B comment line.
36:43
Speaker 4: You are live.
36:46
Speaker 2: Good morning here. I wouldn't know where the story initiate
36:52
Speaker 2: as far as where.
36:55
Speaker 1: It initiated, you know, you know, I don't know what
37:01
Speaker 1: prompted it. But the first I knew that, I mean
37:05
Speaker 1: I knew about the gloves obviously, I've known about them
37:07
Speaker 1: for since twenty twenty three, But the first I knew
37:11
Speaker 1: that it became an issue was a press release that
37:14
Speaker 1: was released by the Young Democrats I think that's what
37:17
Speaker 1: their name they were going by, and it was like,
37:22
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they have these police department has these
37:25
Speaker 1: shot gloves and we're going to have a press conference
37:27
Speaker 1: on Monday at one pm. And then they did a
37:30
Speaker 1: brief press release and to me, that's where it's the
37:35
Speaker 1: conversation really started. And then the City Council, of course,
37:39
Speaker 1: had a meeting at two o'clock that same day. I
37:41
Speaker 1: don't think they covered anything because it wasn't on the agenda,
37:44
Speaker 1: and they can only cover things that are on the agenda.
37:46
Speaker 1: But then Monday night, same day was the OPS school
37:50
Speaker 1: Board meeting, and I think you know a lot I'm
37:53
Speaker 1: not pointing fingers here, but a lot of times it's
37:55
Speaker 1: how the media covers it and what the media decides
37:58
Speaker 1: to cover, and they decided to cover this. Keep in
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Speaker 1: mind at the OPS school Board meeting, there was an
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Speaker 1: officer there with the glove, and nobody would talk to
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Speaker 1: the officer. They just wanted to do a lot of
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Speaker 1: name calling against police in general and saying I didn't
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Speaker 1: know about this, and you're just going to be using
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Speaker 1: these things willy nilly. But again, they are so much
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Speaker 1: less damaging, less invasive than a taser. They are they
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Speaker 1: are not really They're a little shock. I would call
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Speaker 1: it a jolt. I would, you know what I would
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Speaker 1: I would compare it to my cat had one of
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Speaker 1: those shot collars one time because my cat kept.
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Speaker 2: On doing something on the dining room floor. I didn't
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Speaker 2: want my cat.
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Speaker 1: To do so we put we had, if you could
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Speaker 1: believe it, wires put under the carpet in the dining room,
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Speaker 1: and the cat wore this little collar and it kept
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Speaker 1: him out of it. But I grabbed the collar one
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Speaker 1: day and the little prongs were still activated, and I
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Speaker 1: had the prongs in my hand. I squeezed it and
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Speaker 1: the it shocked me a little bit. It just makes
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Speaker 1: you feel like, oh, something's happening here, but it doesn't
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Speaker 1: really hurt. Tasers will knock you off your feet, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: these will not. They're about a third to a fourth
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Speaker 1: of the number of volts that can come out of
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Speaker 1: a taser. They are about three hundred volts. A tasers
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Speaker 1: maximum I think is about twelve hundred volts. These are
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Speaker 1: about three eighty maximum. So it's a jolt. But I
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Speaker 1: think it came. I don't know what prompted the press
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Speaker 1: release with the Nebraska Democrats, but once again, you know,
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Speaker 1: they were trying to blame me. But then I had
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Speaker 1: to go back and say it was voted on by
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Speaker 1: the city council, four Democrats, three Republicans. They all voted
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Speaker 1: for it. They all wanted it.
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna jolt this conversation in a different way, Gene.
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Speaker 5: As we're wrapping up the show today. Last night there
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Speaker 5: was an event for the twenty twenty six Omaha Business
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Speaker 5: Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and this was with the Greater Omaha Chamber.
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Speaker 5: And it looks like the honorable Jean Stothart was inducted
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Speaker 5: into the Omaha Business Hall of Fame last night.
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Speaker 2: I was, and you know, it was a great event.
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Speaker 1: If you don't know about the Hall of Fame, it's
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Speaker 1: put on by the Great Elmont Chamber of Commerce. It
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Speaker 1: first started in nineteen ninety three. I was inducted last
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Speaker 1: night along with David Brown, who's the former CEO of
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Speaker 1: the Chamber, Derek Leathers, President CEO of Warner Trucking, Steve Menzie,
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Speaker 1: CEO president of Applied Underwriters, Rick and Carol Russell, Millard Lumber,
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Speaker 1: and myself. The last mayor that was inducted was Hal Dobb.
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Speaker 1: So not every mayor gets inducted in it. But let
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Speaker 1: me tell you it started in nineteen ninety three, and
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Speaker 1: I'm with a great group of people because guess who
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Speaker 1: the first inductees were in nineteen ninety three.
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Speaker 2: It was the first event.
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Speaker 1: Listen to this, Rose Blumkin, Warren Buffett, John Creighton, Robert Darty.
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Speaker 2: That's with Valmont, Peter Keewitt, and VJ. Scott. Well, congratulations, Jane.
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Speaker 2: That is quite the pool. Yeah, quite the pool.
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Speaker 1: And from them, so many business leaders in town were
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Speaker 1: recognized for their contribution to the business community in the
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Speaker 1: city of Omaha. So it was a great event. Lots
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Speaker 1: of people were there last night and it was good
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Speaker 1: to see everybody.
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Speaker 2: And day. For each inductee, they played a video.
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Speaker 1: We didn't get to see the video until we were there,
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Speaker 1: but they showed me here in this studio, Peyton Hilock,
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Speaker 1: and you were part of that video.
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Speaker 2: Let's go. So there. They started out with we're in
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Speaker 2: the Business Hall of Fame. Jean, Yeah, yeah, we are.
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Speaker 2: They started out with us being on the radio. It
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Speaker 2: was really fun.
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Speaker 1: And then I had my grandkids down in the Jean
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Speaker 1: Lahiel Mall and my grandson ended it perfectly. And I
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Speaker 1: was sitting there by him and I said you like
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Speaker 1: playing down here?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 1: And I said you have fun, yes, And I go
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Speaker 1: why do you like this so much? And he just
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Speaker 1: immediately said because my grandma built it.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, good kid, that's my boy.
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Speaker 1: But no, it was a really great event and great
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Speaker 1: people there, and the Chamber does a great job for
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Speaker 1: the city of Omaha. But that is it for us today.
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Speaker 1: Time flies when you're having fun. But thank you for
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Speaker 1: spending this hour with us. We'd love for you to
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Speaker 1: join us again tomorrow, taking your calls whatever we got
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Speaker 1: on your mind. And I am Jean Stoddert and this
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Speaker 1: is eleven ten. Hey, fab