Latest / Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar / 2/18/26: Hillary Lies About Epstein, Israeli Gov Installed Surveillance For Epstein, Trump Nonsense On Iran, Trump Bombs More Boats
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- 0:36Speaker 3: day of Ramadan. Yes, well, it's one of those holiday
- 0:39Speaker 3: where I'm like, I.
- 0:40Speaker 4: Just I don't think I could do it. Yeah, it's tough,
- 0:42Speaker 4: but no water too.
- 0:43Speaker 5: Yeah, Lent, it's the first day of Lent for to day.
- 0:46Speaker 4: FasTIS do they always line up or no?
- 0:49Speaker 5: I don't know. Sure, let us know.
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- 0:55Speaker 3: Good luck on all of it. It's like I'm impressed
- 0:57Speaker 3: by the commitment to it.
- 0:58Speaker 5: Yeah, stick to it. We'll be rooting you on here
- 1:02Speaker 5: from behind the desk.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Yes, well quenched, well fed, from behind the desk exactly.
- 1:07Speaker 5: Oh that's the time you remember, well quenched, well fed
- 1:10Speaker 5: behind it perfect.
- 1:11Speaker 4: All right, So we got more Jeffrey Epstein news, sure do.
- 1:15Speaker 5: Uh.
- 1:15Speaker 3: We're going to talk about all of the Jeffrey Epstein
- 1:18Speaker 3: news and then we're also going to talk about some
- 1:19Speaker 3: new drop site reporting.
- 1:21Speaker 4: Uh wild story that I did with mos about how.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein and a hub Rock used the Boca Ram
- 1:29Speaker 3: crisis to say, you know, want you to let us
- 1:33Speaker 3: in with a little bit of a little bit of
- 1:35Speaker 3: surveillance technology and we'll see see see if we can
- 1:38Speaker 3: help you out. They even like they went to a
- 1:40Speaker 3: Christian school in Nigeria. We're like, don't you wouldn't you
- 1:43Speaker 3: guys like a little power plant near there so you
- 1:44Speaker 3: can power the school. They wound up with facial recognition
- 1:48Speaker 3: technology instead.
- 1:49Speaker 4: It was a package and then.
- 1:51Speaker 3: He flips those contacts into a deal for his buddy
- 1:53Speaker 3: over at due by Ports World to be able to
- 1:57Speaker 3: you know, get that Amorti company in there.
- 2:00Speaker 4: Just fun. And then we were also going.
- 2:03Speaker 3: Through the the emails continuing over Jmail and found that
- 2:10Speaker 3: the Israeli Consulate in the UN Permanent Mission had Jeffrey
- 2:16Speaker 3: Epstein's apartment under surveillance well a couple of years, so
- 2:22Speaker 3: a Barrock would stay there, and because he would stay there,
- 2:26Speaker 3: they then team linked up with the consulate to put
- 2:30Speaker 3: in surveillance technology into the apartment and an alarm system,
- 2:34Speaker 3: and if any guests went in and out of the
- 2:36Speaker 3: Epstein apartment they had to run them through the Israeli Consulate.
- 2:40Speaker 5: That's a big find, Yeah, I think so that's a
- 2:42Speaker 5: big thing.
- 2:43Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, I think that's a pretty It's gonna be
- 2:46Speaker 4: hard to explain that one.
- 2:47Speaker 5: We're going to break it down. So we've got lots
- 2:49Speaker 5: and lots of Epstein news today. Also a video of
- 2:51Speaker 5: Hillary Clinton having a meltdown getting asked some basic questions
- 2:55Speaker 5: about all of this. Ryan, there's a skinny for her.
- 2:59Speaker 5: Was that rough she's been having? This is the second
- 3:01Speaker 5: mom done.
- 3:02Speaker 3: I think it aways been pushed around over Munich.
- 3:04Speaker 5: Yeah, that was not a good showing for her. Also,
- 3:07Speaker 5: we're working on apparently an Iran deal. We'll see how
- 3:10Speaker 5: that turns out. But Steve what Coffiner Kushner were in
- 3:15Speaker 5: Geneva yesterday negotiating on that.
- 3:17Speaker 3: So it's some administration definitely serious about negotiations this time,
- 3:21Speaker 3: definitely not going to kill the negotiator.
- 3:23Speaker 5: Ryan found a really funny Trump quote on this that
- 3:25Speaker 5: we will save for that block another boat strike another
- 3:29Speaker 5: quote unquote narco strike on a vessel that was announced yesterday,
- 3:34Speaker 5: So we'll break that down. We are technically in a
- 3:37Speaker 5: partial government shutdown, you see. To forget in these insane
- 3:41Speaker 5: news cycles over DHS, that's it is vulnerable. The homeland
- 3:45Speaker 5: has never been less secure. And we also have what
- 3:49Speaker 5: Ryan mom, Donnie w is that what we're calling this?
- 3:51Speaker 3: Yes, and now he's also calling for some tax increases
- 3:55Speaker 3: to cover the budget shortfall. That is not his fault.
- 3:58Speaker 3: He's only been in there for five weeks. There is
- 4:00Speaker 3: a budget shortfall. But yeah, people said there's no way
- 4:04Speaker 3: he can freeze the rent. The rent Control Board has
- 4:07Speaker 3: nothing to do with the mayor. He can't appoint the
- 4:10Speaker 3: people till much later. No, he can, and he's getting
- 4:13Speaker 3: it done. We will break It's February and he's delivering
- 4:16Speaker 3: on like another one.
- 4:16Speaker 4: Of his promises.
- 4:17Speaker 5: We'll break all that down. And new updates in Sudan
- 4:20Speaker 5: that we have come in as well.
- 4:22Speaker 4: Hope. Yes, there's.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Finally some US pressure toward a resolution. We'll see what
- 4:29Speaker 3: comes of it, but we'll break.
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- 4:59Speaker 5: let's start with Hill Clinton, who was sitting for an
- 5:02Speaker 5: interview and as Ryan pointed out, has had a little
- 5:04Speaker 5: bit of a rough week. She's at the Munix Security
- 5:06Speaker 5: conference next week. They have technically what's supposed to be
- 5:09Speaker 5: their public Epstein hearing, so we'll see actually if that
- 5:13Speaker 5: ends up happening and how it ends up happening. But
- 5:16Speaker 5: Hillary Clinton sat for an interview with the BBC. Here
- 5:20Speaker 5: is her response to some questions about Jeffrey Epstein.
- 5:23Speaker 6: You regret the links that they have been.
- 5:26Speaker 5: You know, we have no links.
- 5:28Speaker 7: We have a very clear record that we've been willing
- 5:32Speaker 7: to talk about, which my husband has said he took
- 5:36Speaker 7: some rides on the airplane for his charitable work.
- 5:41Speaker 5: I don't recall ever meeting him.
- 5:43Speaker 6: Do you have a meeting?
- 5:45Speaker 7: I did on a few occasions, and thousands of people
- 5:49Speaker 7: go to the Clinton Global Initiative, So to me, is
- 5:53Speaker 7: not something that is really at the heart of what
- 5:58Speaker 7: this matter is about. They are accused, and in both
- 6:02Speaker 7: cases were convicted of horrific crimes against girls and women.
- 6:09Speaker 6: That should be the focus.
- 6:11Speaker 7: And we are more than happy to say what we know,
- 6:14Speaker 7: which is very limited and totally unrelated to their behavior
- 6:20Speaker 7: or their crimes. And we want to do it in
- 6:22Speaker 7: public because let's make this transparent.
- 6:25Speaker 8: There are calls for another individual who denies from doing
- 6:28Speaker 8: to go before Congress on this massa Andrew Mountbatten Windsor,
- 6:34Speaker 8: formerly Prince Andrew.
- 6:36Speaker 6: Do you think he should testify? I think everybody should testify, well,
- 6:39Speaker 6: including the former prince.
- 6:40Speaker 7: I think everybody should testify who was asked to testify.
- 6:44Speaker 7: I just want it to be fair. I want everybody
- 6:47Speaker 7: treated the same way. That's not true for my husband
- 6:51Speaker 7: and me. Because other witnesses were asked to testify, they
- 6:54Speaker 7: gave written statements under oath. We offered that they want
- 6:59Speaker 7: to pull us. Why did they want to pull us
- 7:01Speaker 7: into this? To divert attention from President Trump? This is
- 7:04Speaker 7: not complicated.
- 7:06Speaker 5: Quote we have no links. I will turn now to
- 7:09Speaker 5: the breaking points on Budsman known as Ryan Griham fact
- 7:13Speaker 5: check true false.
- 7:15Speaker 3: Well she I mean she fact checked herself immediately afterwards,
- 7:18Speaker 3: She's like, we have no links. Well, my husband took
- 7:20Speaker 3: some rides on his plane as part of his charitable work.
- 7:23Speaker 3: Epstein played and Maxwell played a role in like helping
- 7:27Speaker 3: to organize the charitable work to begin with. Yeah, Clinton
- 7:30Speaker 3: Global Initiative. So that's that's a link. But the plane
- 7:34Speaker 3: is not nothing, not at all. And there were people
- 7:36Speaker 3: at the time who were like, you, there's a lot
- 7:40Speaker 3: of people. There's a lot of planes that you could
- 7:43Speaker 3: be riding around on as the former president, as the
- 7:46Speaker 3: former president, why don't do Epstein? He also had that
- 7:49Speaker 3: that guy Berkele, who is a total creep. You can
- 7:53Speaker 3: you can look up it's this a family friendly show.
- 7:55Speaker 3: I'm not even going to tell you it's it's worse
- 7:57Speaker 3: than the lead Express almost No, actually, the Leader Express
- 8:00Speaker 3: is worse, but it was.
- 8:01Speaker 4: It also had its own bad nickname.
- 8:04Speaker 3: So not once, but twice he wound up in planes
- 8:07Speaker 3: with like you know, sortid nicknames linked to exploitation of women,
- 8:15Speaker 3: and then they can like they continue to have relationship
- 8:17Speaker 3: out of it.
- 8:18Speaker 4: It's like, there's we got the photos from Clinton.
- 8:20Speaker 5: You can actually the pictures from their travels give you
- 8:24Speaker 5: a really good glimpse at how this was organized, because
- 8:27Speaker 5: it wasn't just some hands off It's clearly if you
- 8:29Speaker 5: look at the pictures, it wasn't just some sort of
- 8:31Speaker 5: like hands off flight. Epstein comes stays, you know, does
- 8:35Speaker 5: his own thing. Clinton does his own thing. No, they
- 8:37Speaker 5: were literally touring around together. They're standing next to each
- 8:40Speaker 5: other and many many pictures. Yeah, it's it's absurd.
- 8:43Speaker 3: No, this is before Epstein was charged or convicted the
- 8:47Speaker 3: first time. Yeah, so you can say that a lot
- 8:49Speaker 3: of people who met him or like as of creep.
- 8:51Speaker 5: However, well, he had young women massaging Bill Clinton.
- 8:54Speaker 3: Yes, and you also have to understand that this is
- 8:57Speaker 3: a world of total creeps. So so in Clinton's defense,
- 9:02Speaker 3: a lot of people he encounters at this level of
- 9:06Speaker 3: society are complete and total creeps, and many of them
- 9:10Speaker 3: are like actual mass murderers, like the way they got
- 9:14Speaker 3: into their position of powers by overseeing or ass violence
- 9:17Speaker 3: around the globe. And so I think you're probably your
- 9:21Speaker 3: moral radar probably is a little haywire by the time
- 9:25Speaker 3: you know you're in your post presidency and have yourself overseen,
- 9:29Speaker 3: you know, mass violence.
- 9:31Speaker 6: Now.
- 9:31Speaker 5: Andrew Kozinski did another fact check here. This is a
- 9:34Speaker 5: two just of Clinton's claim on the Clinton Global Initiative.
- 9:37Speaker 5: She says, oh, thousands of people go to the Clinton
- 9:39Speaker 5: Global Initiative. In response to questions about Gleeton Maxwell k
- 9:42Speaker 5: File notes Maxwell did not just go to CGI. Maxwell
- 9:45Speaker 5: and her charity partnered with CGI, and Maxwell as an
- 9:47Speaker 5: honored guest in twenty thirteen there for her Ocean charity,
- 9:51Speaker 5: making commitments at CGI, and as CNN reported, Andrew Kozinski
- 9:56Speaker 5: reported this at CNN, we saw that she had complementary access.
- 10:00Speaker 5: There's other reporting from Kazinski showing that the Clinton Global
- 10:04Speaker 5: Initiative Ryan just mentioned this was built in no small
- 10:08Speaker 5: part by donations and work coordination from Epstein and Maxwell.
- 10:14Speaker 5: Maxwell was intimately intertwined with Doug Band who was Bill
- 10:19Speaker 5: Clinton's It was almost what boris Nikolic was to Bill Gates.
- 10:23Speaker 5: This is almost what Doug Band was at that time
- 10:25Speaker 5: to Bill Clinton.
- 10:26Speaker 3: Band was seen as to people who were close to
- 10:28Speaker 3: Clinton at the time, he was sort of like an
- 10:30Speaker 3: almost an adopted son.
- 10:32Speaker 4: Was he was that close to him?
- 10:33Speaker 5: Yeah, and they were very clearly if you look through
- 10:36Speaker 5: their emails they're talking about it's you remember the one
- 10:38Speaker 5: that I'm thinking of, particularly the Boo Boo one. It's disgusting.
- 10:42Speaker 3: Yes, they're, Yes, extremely close would be an understatement.
- 10:45Speaker 4: We have we found emails. Yeah, where Band. I think
- 10:50Speaker 4: he went to.
- 10:52Speaker 3: University of Florida and wanted to see them play in
- 10:54Speaker 3: Indianapolis and the NCAA Championship back in oh seven to eight,
- 10:58Speaker 3: I think they were in it both here one of
- 11:00Speaker 3: those years. And he couldn't get any flights because there's
- 11:03Speaker 3: not a lot of flights sending Appolis. So he reaches
- 11:04Speaker 3: out to Maxwell and on Epstein, and Epstein's like, yes,
- 11:09Speaker 3: let him have the plane. He found a different plane,
- 11:12Speaker 3: you know, because he's in Bill Clinton storm, so getting
- 11:14Speaker 3: a plane was not going to be that big of
- 11:17Speaker 3: a problem. There's the thing to give him a watch
- 11:19Speaker 3: and stuff. Anyway, they're connected. Now one person who agrees
- 11:25Speaker 3: with Hillary Clinton on part of her point was Thomas
- 11:28Speaker 3: massew when he was here. His point was, yeah, she
- 11:31Speaker 3: should testify, but it's a distraction, it's theater. And her
- 11:36Speaker 3: point that if you're really trying to get to the
- 11:38Speaker 3: bottom of what's going on here, we're happy to answer
- 11:41Speaker 3: questions in writing like that. Actually, that's that's a pretty
- 11:45Speaker 3: like it's better, I think to be in person, but
- 11:47Speaker 3: like that's pretty useful, like if it's if it's on
- 11:50Speaker 3: the record and it's public and it's under oath. But yeah,
- 11:54Speaker 3: Massy's Massy point is like you need subpoena power, You
- 11:57Speaker 3: need to like, you need to talk to the banks.
- 11:59Speaker 3: You need to get much deeper than just trying to
- 12:04Speaker 3: embarrass the Clintons. Yeah, now, the public loves some embarrassment
- 12:11Speaker 3: of its top officials.
- 12:13Speaker 4: So I'm not going to stand in the way of that.
- 12:15Speaker 5: Top officials who have been incredibly accused of rape and
- 12:17Speaker 5: we know abuse. There are power in office for sexual exploits.
- 12:22Speaker 4: So Bill Clinton's record on this has just been bad.
- 12:27Speaker 4: This isn't the whole entire life, the.
- 12:29Speaker 5: Whole entire life some really big news in the business world.
- 12:33Speaker 5: We can put this an next element up on the
- 12:34Speaker 5: screen From New York Post, the Hyatt executive chair Tom
- 12:37Speaker 5: Prisker has stepped down over Epstein ties. This came out yesterday.
- 12:42Speaker 5: He said in a letter to Hyatt's bard. According to
- 12:43Speaker 5: the Post, that he was exiting effective immediately in an
- 12:46Speaker 5: effort to show quote good stewardship after more than twenty
- 12:49Speaker 5: years at the company, and would not seek reelection to
- 12:53Speaker 5: the board at Hyatt's annual shareholder meeting in May. Good
- 12:57Speaker 5: stewardship also means protecting high particularly in the context of
- 13:01Speaker 5: my association with Jeffrey Epstein and Gahlene Maxwell, which I
- 13:04Speaker 5: deeply regret, I exercised terrible judgment and maintaining contact with them,
- 13:08Speaker 5: and there's no excuse for failing to distance myself sooner.
- 13:12Speaker 5: Pritzker went on to say, Ryan Pritzker is featured in
- 13:16Speaker 5: some of your reporting. Why is he stepping down?
- 13:19Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he's in there. He's in there, and
- 13:23Speaker 3: he seems to be aware of the debaucherous behavior and doesn't.
- 13:29Speaker 5: Back out joking about it.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Yeah, and again like I'm half joking. But I feel
- 13:37Speaker 3: bad for some of the elites in the sense that
- 13:40Speaker 3: all of the people that they associate with are engaged
- 13:43Speaker 3: in terrible things all of the time. That's how they
- 13:46Speaker 3: got to where they are, and by some fluke chants,
- 13:53Speaker 3: Epstein and Maxwell get plucked out as the examples that
- 13:56Speaker 3: now the world agrees are horrifying and horrific people and
- 14:02Speaker 3: that anybody associated with them needs to go down. Who
- 14:05Speaker 3: knows like what other creatures crawl within that world that
- 14:12Speaker 3: if you get their emails, if you learned the private
- 14:16Speaker 3: details of what they're doing, that they may also have been.
- 14:20Speaker 3: Now are they running like a network like this that
- 14:23Speaker 3: had this pyramid scheme level of you girls, you know,
- 14:27Speaker 3: the teens become in the twenties, and then they become
- 14:29Speaker 3: the recruiters, and then they know it's like an industrial
- 14:33Speaker 3: scales type situation. You know, probably not, but you're talking
- 14:38Speaker 3: a matter of degrees rather than kind in depravity that's
- 14:43Speaker 3: like on public display inside these circles, and they're just,
- 14:47Speaker 3: I think, very used to seeing it and very used
- 14:49Speaker 3: to having no accountability. I was also thinking the other day, like,
- 14:53Speaker 3: let's say you were one of these elites and you
- 14:55Speaker 3: wanted to call out Epstein, who in the elite world
- 14:59Speaker 3: would even be leave you like they would just they'd
- 15:02Speaker 3: be like Oh, some business deal went south with you
- 15:05Speaker 3: and Jeffrey, So now you're trying to suck all of
- 15:09Speaker 3: us into your drama. Right, there's no mechanism for holding
- 15:14Speaker 3: these people accountable. Therefore they're not held accountable, and therefore
- 15:20Speaker 3: everybody just you know, coast along with it.
- 15:23Speaker 4: Now.
- 15:23Speaker 3: I'm the reason I'm half joking is because I'm happy
- 15:25Speaker 3: to see, you know, anybody associated with this, you know,
- 15:29Speaker 3: go down.
- 15:30Speaker 5: So in Tom Pritsker, it's not like maybe people don't
- 15:34Speaker 5: know his name. They might know his last name. He
- 15:36Speaker 5: has cousins of JB. Pritzker, but he's, as we just mentioned,
- 15:40Speaker 5: the executive chair of Hyatt, one of the most powerful
- 15:45Speaker 5: businessmen in the world.
- 15:47Speaker 3: He was I believe it was the pretty Sacer family.
- 15:49Speaker 3: That's Penny Pritsker, like major dem donors. I was just
- 15:51Speaker 3: going to say, extremely wealthy family.
- 15:54Speaker 5: Yeah, there's so much. There's a lot of in the library,
- 16:01Speaker 5: in the Epstein library, the DOJ has so it makes
- 16:05Speaker 5: complete sense. There's the Post has this. They include this
- 16:09Speaker 5: back and forth he had with Karina Shuliac, who is
- 16:13Speaker 5: getting more attention recently as well, where in twenty eighteen
- 16:17Speaker 5: he quote agreed to help Epstein's girlfriend a arranger trip
- 16:20Speaker 5: to Southeast Asia and asked what she planned to do
- 16:22Speaker 5: during the trip. Quote going to find a new girlfriend
- 16:25Speaker 5: for Jeffrey Shuliac, wrote. Pritzker replied with a smiley face
- 16:28Speaker 5: emoji and wrote, May the Force be with you, lovely.
- 16:33Speaker 4: Right.
- 16:33Speaker 3: So, yeah, we don't know what he knew exactly, but
- 16:38Speaker 3: we knew he had window into some of it.
- 16:42Speaker 5: Yeah, andticipated exactly. Yeah. I was going to say, yeah,
- 16:46Speaker 5: we don't know who he participated, and we know that
- 16:48Speaker 5: he was cooperating to some extent with Jeffrey Epstein's camp
- 16:55Speaker 5: in regards to like organizing trips, and he's going back
- 16:59Speaker 5: and forth with Epstein. And I think I found one
- 17:00Speaker 5: last night where he says he responds to Epstein about
- 17:03Speaker 5: something that says too old even for me.
- 17:06Speaker 3: So they have we allowed this world to be created
- 17:11Speaker 3: where you have this ecosystem of people who operate above
- 17:14Speaker 3: accountability and with impunity.
- 17:16Speaker 4: And this is what we've gotten out of it.
- 17:18Speaker 3: And that's why I like Rocana's use of Epstein class,
- 17:23Speaker 3: Like there should not be an Epstein class.
- 17:26Speaker 4: Everyone should be accountable to the law.
- 17:29Speaker 5: So this is an email from Tom Pritzker twenty ten,
- 17:32Speaker 5: he says to Epstein, going to Turkey in Wednesday, having
- 17:35Speaker 5: dinner with foreign minister, then takabble for some cobos with McCrystal.
- 17:39Speaker 5: So Stanley McCrystal, Peter's telling of getting out of government
- 17:42Speaker 5: is perfect, not good perfect, assuming that's about Mandelson. This
- 17:45Speaker 5: is twenty ten, so I don't know. I am on
- 17:46Speaker 5: my way to DC to have someone at NSC explains
- 17:49Speaker 5: to me how it is that Turkey president is now
- 17:50Speaker 5: looking to Iran for friends, Afghan prez is now looking
- 17:53Speaker 5: to Taliban for friends, and the Israeli president is looking
- 17:56Speaker 5: in the mirror for friends, trying to looks at CNN
- 17:58Speaker 5: and says who needs friends? And the French look in
- 18:00Speaker 5: their wine glass for friends. A good one, Tom Pretsky
- 18:04Speaker 5: another bang.
- 18:06Speaker 3: There you go, well done, Tom, Yeah, seventy five. What
- 18:09Speaker 3: are you still work in any way? You're that rich? Serious,
- 18:11Speaker 3: which drives me crazy. He's seventy five years old. Seriously,
- 18:14Speaker 3: the villages needs needs your What are you doing the villages?
- 18:18Speaker 5: He's probably too rich for the villages.
- 18:20Speaker 3: They have like four bedrooms, though they get a big
- 18:23Speaker 3: one with a screen porch.
- 18:24Speaker 5: Sound's nice, all right, Well, now let's go to new
- 18:27Speaker 5: drop site.
- 18:28Speaker 3: We needn't have to do the like early bird, you
- 18:31Speaker 3: can just eat whenever he wants.
- 18:33Speaker 5: People forget the degree to which you are perhaps the
- 18:37Speaker 5: most prominent national reporter on the.
- 18:39Speaker 3: Villages need Well, we got to dive, actually, we need
- 18:42Speaker 3: to dive back into it. If the Villages is going
- 18:45Speaker 3: through an incredible scandal. You know, it's a corporation that
- 18:49Speaker 3: owns a giant city. And what happens after you can't
- 18:53Speaker 3: expand anymore to feed the profits of this corporation, then
- 18:57Speaker 3: you have to turn inward and just start extracting more
- 19:00Speaker 3: out of the people that you have living there. So
- 19:04Speaker 3: they started selling them all etiquer advantage plans. Oh gosh,
- 19:07Speaker 3: and it just became a giant scam and now they're
- 19:10Speaker 3: like facing bankruptcy.
- 19:12Speaker 5: Well, we will definitely have to return to the subject.
- 19:14Speaker 3: Yeah, we will, we will. And it's it's crazy, it's
- 19:18Speaker 3: and it's like, what would happen if you allow a
- 19:21Speaker 3: city profits seeking city to just extract things from elderly people. Oh,
- 19:27Speaker 3: it turns out it will just scam them until to
- 19:29Speaker 3: the point of its own bankruptcy.
- 19:31Speaker 5: That reminds me, speaking of pocket profit seeking cities. I
- 19:35Speaker 5: found an email last night between Epstein and Lawrence Krause
- 19:39Speaker 5: where they're talking about a trip to Disney World, and
- 19:42Speaker 5: Epstein suggests to Lawrence Kraus that he has quote special
- 19:46Speaker 5: access to Disney because Kraus is saying, I can't get
- 19:50Speaker 5: extra Disney tickets sent here for your guests. Too late
- 19:52Speaker 5: for that. We can get it when we are there.
- 19:53Speaker 5: I won't be able to link her ticket to ours.
- 19:54Speaker 5: They will do for yours, so I can deserve one
- 19:56Speaker 5: or two rides. But that is the only negative. This
- 19:58Speaker 5: is twenty thirteen. I've seen reply out of special access.
- 20:01Speaker 3: Don't worry all right, So ma Husein and I will
- 20:06Speaker 3: have a piece over at drop site later today. Might
- 20:09Speaker 3: be up by the time this show goes up. That
- 20:12Speaker 3: shows that the Israeli government installed you know, am alarms
- 20:16Speaker 3: and security equipment, surveillance equipment at Jeffrey Epstein's East sixty
- 20:21Speaker 3: sixth Street apartment. This stretch, stretching for years, according to emails,
- 20:27Speaker 3: have been released by the Department of Justice in twenty
- 20:30Speaker 3: sixteen and twenty seventeen at least, and it looks like
- 20:34Speaker 3: for periods that go beyond that. Because Ahud Barak was
- 20:40Speaker 3: staying so frequently in the apartment. He's the former Prime
- 20:43Speaker 3: Minister of Israel, and former prime ministers are entitled to
- 20:47Speaker 3: certain levels of security throughout the rest of their career.
- 20:50Speaker 4: Barack would be especially.
- 20:52Speaker 3: Entitled to it because of his time as Minister of
- 20:55Speaker 3: Defense and also as a top intelligence official. He was
- 20:59Speaker 3: staying for long stretches of time at Jeffrey Epstein's apartment,
- 21:02Speaker 3: which was technically owned by Mark Epstein but effectively controlled
- 21:07Speaker 3: by Jeffrey Epstein, mark Epstein's brother, that the Israeli Consulate,
- 21:15Speaker 3: the the UN Permanent Mission for Israel in New York,
- 21:20Speaker 3: became responsible for security at this Epstein apartment and they installed,
- 21:27Speaker 3: you know, different surveillance and security devices in that apartment.
- 21:31Speaker 4: You put up.
- 21:32Speaker 3: I don't know if we have either of these two
- 21:36Speaker 3: elements available, but they go back and forth, and.
- 21:41Speaker 4: It turns out that.
- 21:43Speaker 3: Basically anybody who had anybody who had to go one
- 21:47Speaker 3: to go into the apartment had to have a background
- 21:50Speaker 3: check and had to be cleared by the by the
- 21:52Speaker 3: Israeli government.
- 21:56Speaker 4: The and there was the.
- 21:57Speaker 3: Handler for the apartment even turned over a quarter to
- 22:00Speaker 3: the emails.
- 22:00Speaker 4: So like they're they're going back and forth.
- 22:03Speaker 3: With you know, then they say, Hey, we're going to
- 22:05Speaker 3: have some new new folks coming in and a different
- 22:07Speaker 3: perse different Israeli government official response.
- 22:10Speaker 4: I'm taking over for Rafi.
- 22:12Speaker 3: I'm now handling this this apartment security. That's the gist
- 22:16Speaker 3: of the of what we can glean, you know, just
- 22:20Speaker 3: from these documents. Of course, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. This
- 22:25Speaker 3: is like long after his his conviction, and the first
- 22:28Speaker 3: thing it does is blow away the claims by ah
- 22:31Speaker 3: Barack that they barely ever met. Okay, but I think
- 22:36Speaker 3: we have pretty convincingly blown away that one already gotcha.
- 22:41Speaker 3: But it also means that the Israeli government, you know,
- 22:46Speaker 3: knew how close Epstein and Barack was. This is also
- 22:49Speaker 3: the same apartment where Yoni Korn was, another Israeli spy
- 22:53Speaker 3: and a protege of Barack state.
- 22:57Speaker 4: He stayed at that apartment as well.
- 22:58Speaker 5: So does this part.
- 23:00Speaker 3: So it's so East sixty sixth. This is the this
- 23:05Speaker 3: is not the townhouse. This is this is the It's
- 23:08Speaker 3: maybe a twenty minute walk from from this apartment to
- 23:14Speaker 3: the kind of Central Park famous townhouse. This is is
- 23:17Speaker 3: it a It's an apartment where he would have people
- 23:21Speaker 3: stay who are coming into town.
- 23:23Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I've seen this in the emails
- 23:25Speaker 5: and sometimes it's women, Yes, a.
- 23:26Speaker 4: Lot of times it's women.
- 23:27Speaker 3: Yeah, so they would have to clear He would have
- 23:30Speaker 3: to clear those women if it wasn't during these stretches
- 23:33Speaker 3: of time.
- 23:34Speaker 5: He often appears to be giving it as a fan
- 23:36Speaker 5: with the Consulate.
- 23:36Speaker 3: It's it is a favor like people. And he did
- 23:38Speaker 3: his Paris apartment this way too. Hey, i'm gonna be
- 23:42Speaker 3: in Paris, can I stay at your place? Or I'm
- 23:46Speaker 3: gonna be in New York and I stay at your place.
- 23:47Speaker 5: And sometimes you see him talking to girls where he says,
- 23:50Speaker 5: you know, at least give me the courtesy while you're
- 23:52Speaker 5: staying in my apartment to you keep me a prize.
- 23:56Speaker 4: She didn't get back to them like fast enough she
- 23:58Speaker 4: was out of town.
- 24:00Speaker 5: Yeah, so I assume that's the sixty six. Yes, yes, Well,
- 24:04Speaker 5: so that's very interesting.
- 24:05Speaker 4: Marx company owned like most of the building.
- 24:09Speaker 3: It seems like, okay, the development development company and yeah,
- 24:14Speaker 3: so you can read the story for some of the
- 24:16Speaker 3: from some of the details on it. But yeah, so
- 24:19Speaker 3: that's a that's a pretty tight link right there. This
- 24:23Speaker 3: is what the Israeli government was doing. The security for
- 24:26Speaker 3: Epstein's apartment.
- 24:28Speaker 5: This is one of the most significant stories to come
- 24:31Speaker 5: out of the entire do O J archive. I think, Ryan,
- 24:34Speaker 5: this this one from you and Mos is.
- 24:36Speaker 3: Human language, and people will say, well, yeah, it's because
- 24:39Speaker 3: it's because Barack was a foreign prime minister and you
- 24:42Speaker 3: know they all get security.
- 24:43Speaker 4: It's like, okay, but like follow that train of thought
- 24:49Speaker 4: a little further.
- 24:51Speaker 3: So clearly what this shows, to paraphrase bots music, is
- 24:56Speaker 3: that he was a KGB agent. Yeah, he clearly he
- 25:00Speaker 3: was working on behalf of the Russians.
- 25:02Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, but I mean it's this is the
- 25:06Speaker 5: type of thing that it's like, it's it's obvious, you know,
- 25:08Speaker 5: if a Barock is staying. It's one of those things
- 25:10Speaker 5: where it's like you can connect the dots A and
- 25:13Speaker 5: B and say it's happening. But here what you guys
- 25:15Speaker 5: did was prove right, like it's it's logical, it's a
- 25:18Speaker 5: logical follow on, but you guys found the actual proof
- 25:24Speaker 5: that it was happening. Everyone would know if a Barock
- 25:27Speaker 5: is is staying at a place, it's likely that this
- 25:31Speaker 5: is happening, but it's not just likely, you know, so
- 25:34Speaker 5: it really happened.
- 25:35Speaker 3: I know, we have Ma's and another interesting story on
- 25:39Speaker 3: Tuesday that if people missed, I think it's and if
- 25:42Speaker 3: you care about this kind of stuff, it's really interesting
- 25:45Speaker 3: because it's another window into what what Epstein was really
- 25:48Speaker 3: doing with Barack and with with the connections that he
- 25:52Speaker 3: was building between uh du baiports world, which is Stain
- 25:57Speaker 3: suele Am, who who quit recently under pressure. Although everybody
- 26:01Speaker 3: thinks he's put out in some type of garden, leave
- 26:04Speaker 3: that like he'll he's still probably in the mix, like
- 26:08Speaker 3: but you know, I'm sure facing real pressure and put up.
- 26:10Speaker 5: By the way, sorry, just before you go that I
- 26:12Speaker 5: found an email from him last night. He was Epstein
- 26:15Speaker 5: was asking him about another businessman. He said, well, this
- 26:19Speaker 5: man is not like me. He's faithful to his life.
- 26:21Speaker 5: That the Sultan said to.
- 26:22Speaker 4: Epstein, Sultan Sulton, what are you doing man?
- 26:25Speaker 3: Yes anyway, yeah Sultan, oh boy, so you put up
- 26:31Speaker 3: This is a four headline. Epstein flipped Israel's gods attested
- 26:37Speaker 3: biometric scanners into Nigeria ports deal for u A. The
- 26:43Speaker 3: kind of headlines that we've been putting on drop size
- 26:47Speaker 3: stories lately are kind of mind boggling. You read the
- 26:50Speaker 3: story and there is zero zero sensationalism. This is it's
- 26:54Speaker 3: just a straightforward like, yeah, literally what he did here,
- 26:58Speaker 3: So Boko Haram was going on its rampage in what
- 27:02Speaker 3: twenty thirteen and the and so Barack and actually through
- 27:08Speaker 3: his wife, he often used his wife to kind of
- 27:11Speaker 3: make the first entree to other officials. They reach out
- 27:16Speaker 3: condolences to you know for this broke of Haram massacre.
- 27:21Speaker 4: You know, we're all where, we are there for you.
- 27:24Speaker 3: And what the way that they are there for you
- 27:26Speaker 3: then becomes evident over the following years they offer, why
- 27:33Speaker 3: don't we come in and yeah, for this Christian private school,
- 27:38Speaker 3: build a power plant, like.
- 27:41Speaker 4: You know, move move that, you know, move this entire
- 27:46Speaker 4: community forward. Wonderful, That's that's terrific.
- 27:49Speaker 3: You're going to build a power plant, you know, for
- 27:51Speaker 3: this to power this this school, which will then benefit
- 27:54Speaker 3: the entire community.
- 27:56Speaker 4: That's that's tremendous.
- 27:58Speaker 3: That's that's that's what you want the like, the the
- 28:02Speaker 3: like Patrician elites, the good Davos crowd to be doing
- 28:05Speaker 3: lifting people up from poverty. Somehow along the way, the
- 28:09Speaker 3: instead of building a power plant, they accidentally install facial
- 28:13Speaker 3: recognition technology. What a mistake, Oh, did we say power plant,
- 28:19Speaker 3: we're going to So we have this product that we
- 28:22Speaker 3: have tested in Gaza that they used that they that
- 28:26Speaker 3: they used at the Rafa border crossing, which was involved
- 28:29Speaker 3: with and so Barack yes, bringing this in because Epstein
- 28:34Speaker 3: and Barack were deeply entrenched in the Israeli cyber security
- 28:38Speaker 3: in cyber weapons industry, So they tested this facial recognition
- 28:43Speaker 3: technology early in Gaza. And they come and they say, look,
- 28:48Speaker 3: why don't you just install this facial recognition technology here
- 28:53Speaker 3: in in this school and at the and at the time,
- 28:56Speaker 3: there's this big scandal going on in Nigeria because the
- 28:59Speaker 3: government had been exposed for using a lot of Israeli
- 29:02Speaker 3: surveillance equipment. And you can witness Epstein and Barack kind
- 29:06Speaker 3: of massaging and managing the pr and the fallout and
- 29:10Speaker 3: and despite the public outcry in Nigeria around this, managing
- 29:15Speaker 3: to muscle it through and then ultimately building enough connections
- 29:20Speaker 3: that Epstein is then able to bring Sultan and VP World,
- 29:25Speaker 3: DP World into the mix. Nigeria one of the wealthiest
- 29:31Speaker 3: countries in the world. It's people do not share in
- 29:33Speaker 3: that wealth. It's it's people like Epstein and Zuliam who
- 29:39Speaker 3: extract the wealth, funneled a lot of it to the
- 29:42Speaker 3: ue where it's laundered through there through their you know
- 29:49Speaker 3: makeshift you know mafia like kind of banking system, and
- 29:53Speaker 3: then it emerges in.
- 29:57Speaker 4: You know as like penthouses.
- 29:58Speaker 3: In Miami and work in Paris where it's where it
- 30:02Speaker 3: continues to be laundered and then drives up. But you know, property,
- 30:05Speaker 3: you know, drives up the price of housing for people
- 30:07Speaker 3: all over all over the world because it has to
- 30:09Speaker 3: find it has to find somewhere to park that is
- 30:13Speaker 3: quasi legitimate.
- 30:15Speaker 4: Uh So if you're asking how.
- 30:16Speaker 3: That affects you, it makes it so you can't afford
- 30:19Speaker 3: a house. So yeah, so they that's kind of what
- 30:26Speaker 3: they're doing.
- 30:27Speaker 5: And yeah, it's crazy.
- 30:30Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 30:30Speaker 3: And now Trump is like bombing Nigeria like and also
- 30:35Speaker 3: like bombing like even the wrong parts of Nigeria. Not
- 30:40Speaker 3: that any parts of Nigeria should be bombed bombed, but
- 30:42Speaker 3: he's like was like claiming he's like bombing the remnants
- 30:44Speaker 3: of Book of ram or the like whatever they've evolved into.
- 30:48Speaker 4: Instead he is bombing completely different parts.
- 30:52Speaker 5: Well, let me ask if we combine both of these stories,
- 30:56Speaker 5: the extent to which we can say we're.
- 30:59Speaker 4: All I should have.
- 31:01Speaker 3: You can roll through A five while Emily's talking. This
- 31:03Speaker 3: is a slideshow of some of the pieces if you
- 31:05Speaker 3: want to read.
- 31:05Speaker 4: That, Oh yeah, go ahead.
- 31:06Speaker 5: Well, yeah, So if we combine these two stories, to
- 31:09Speaker 5: what extent can we say that, A, who Barack and
- 31:12Speaker 5: Jeffrey Epstein were state actors or extra state actors? What
- 31:18Speaker 5: do we know about how this was in some ways
- 31:23Speaker 5: connected with official Israeli government policy.
- 31:28Speaker 3: That's that's it's not the wrong question, it is it
- 31:32Speaker 3: kind of misunderstands the the distinction between state and non
- 31:38Speaker 3: state actors in what in this Davo set. And so
- 31:43Speaker 3: like Epstein is not like Epstein. To do what Epstein
- 31:48Speaker 3: was doing, he would never have had to have been
- 31:50Speaker 3: on the payroll of any spy service.
- 31:52Speaker 4: Yeah, no, anywhere.
- 31:54Speaker 3: Yes, And for Barack to do what he's doing doesn't
- 31:58Speaker 3: need an official portfolio. Some some times what he was
- 32:00Speaker 3: doing he was still Minister of.
- 32:01Speaker 5: Defense, That's what I mean. Yeah, because they're.
- 32:03Speaker 3: So sometimes he was actually Minister of Defense while he's
- 32:06Speaker 3: doing these deals with Epstein. For the most part, after
- 32:10Speaker 3: March twenty thirteen is when Barack leaves the office. He
- 32:13Speaker 3: then tries to make a comeback and eighteen and then
- 32:18Speaker 3: in the nineteen Bannon was going to run his campaign.
- 32:22Speaker 4: That it didn't it fizzled.
- 32:24Speaker 3: He I think they won like no seats or something
- 32:27Speaker 3: or one seat or something, because he was he formed
- 32:31Speaker 3: a new political party. He was a Labor party guy.
- 32:36Speaker 3: But they're constantly working with the Israeli cyber security industry,
- 32:45Speaker 3: which is fully aligned with Israeli state foreign policy and
- 32:52Speaker 3: is completely populated by Unit eighty two hundred and other
- 32:57Speaker 3: veterans of There's there's basically no membrane between these companies,
- 33:05Speaker 3: Paragon being a major one that Barack.
- 33:08Speaker 4: Is involved with.
- 33:09Speaker 5: It's like Lockheed.
- 33:09Speaker 3: It's like saying, yeah, there's probably more of a membrane
- 33:16Speaker 3: in some ways between our military industrial complex. But that's
- 33:21Speaker 3: the idea, like it is a it is a complex,
- 33:25Speaker 3: like when you the phrase military industrial complex, it's the
- 33:28Speaker 3: same in Israel, but probably even tighter because.
- 33:30Speaker 4: Of the way that.
- 33:34Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a small country.
- 33:35Speaker 3: It's it's a small country. Everybody's moving in and out
- 33:37Speaker 3: of these these positions. And and you see Epstein and
- 33:40Speaker 3: Barack frequently in contact with current intelligence officials, like in fact,
- 33:48Speaker 3: like when they go to when they go to Nigeria.
- 33:51Speaker 3: They get Barack gets like you know, has them like,
- 33:58Speaker 3: do up some intel for them on.
- 34:01Speaker 4: What's Jonathan good Luck?
- 34:04Speaker 3: Give me a background er on him. And that's not
- 34:08Speaker 3: just Wikipedia. Like the backgrounders you're going to get from
- 34:11Speaker 3: these intel guys are going to be much more interesting,
- 34:13Speaker 3: so they have a lot more information.
- 34:15Speaker 5: Well, I'm assuming that Ahod Baraka is former intelligence minister
- 34:19Speaker 5: and Prime Minister has access to whatever he wants for
- 34:22Speaker 5: the most part.
- 34:22Speaker 3: And then Johnathan good Luck, just to bring in full
- 34:26Speaker 3: circle for breaking points viewers, he was kind of the
- 34:29Speaker 3: head of the Commonwealth.
- 34:33Speaker 4: Election Advisory Commission that went to.
- 34:37Speaker 3: Oversee Pakistan's February twenty twenty four election, which they found
- 34:43Speaker 3: to be completely rigged and then buried their report until
- 34:48Speaker 3: we got a copy of it and published it.
- 34:51Speaker 5: Crazy. Yeah, this is such good reporting. Thanks Ryan for
- 34:55Speaker 5: breaking it down for us.
- 34:56Speaker 4: Interesting stuff for sure. All Right, war with Iran, let's
- 35:01Speaker 4: say you're tomorrow.
- 35:05Speaker 5: Well some news yesterday when it comes to Iran negotiations.
- 35:09Speaker 5: Let's put this first element up on the screen. New
- 35:11Speaker 5: York Post headline Iran US agree on quote guiding principles
- 35:14Speaker 5: of nuclear deal, as Vance says, dismantling atomic program among
- 35:19Speaker 5: red lines, right, I thought we all kind of understood
- 35:22Speaker 5: it was not a good idea to talk about red
- 35:24Speaker 5: lines explicitly when you're making foreign policy at this point
- 35:28Speaker 5: can come back to bite you. But that is where
- 35:29Speaker 5: the Admin landed yesterday.
- 35:31Speaker 3: Well SONNYA who keeps trying to add new red lines,
- 35:35Speaker 3: and you know it makes the the most cynical observers
- 35:41Speaker 3: of NNNYA, whose behavior appeared just pressient over and over
- 35:45Speaker 3: and over again. So when throughout the years, actually as
- 35:49Speaker 3: NETNYA who was fighting against the nuclear deal first, Obama
- 35:54Speaker 3: reached the nuclear deal with Iran back in twenty fifteen,
- 35:59Speaker 3: which if we had left it in place an, you know,
- 36:02Speaker 3: we could be moving towards just normalization, Like what like
- 36:06Speaker 3: if if if that's what we care about, is Iran
- 36:08Speaker 3: not having nuclear weapons and allowing inspectors in to make
- 36:12Speaker 3: sure that that doesn't happen. People back then said, this
- 36:15Speaker 3: isn't even the thing that who cares about. What he
- 36:18Speaker 3: cares about is smashing Iran like he wants it as
- 36:23Speaker 3: weak as possible, and preferably if he can broken up
- 36:28Speaker 3: into little failing statelets Allah like.
- 36:32Speaker 4: Libya or or Serious. So you've got the Voloak region.
- 36:36Speaker 3: You know, you'd have like insurgents going back and forth
- 36:38Speaker 3: between Pakistan and Iran who are part of the like
- 36:41Speaker 3: blocust on liberation side. You have the curds up in
- 36:45Speaker 3: the north of Iran, who would then you know, they
- 36:48Speaker 3: break that off, you like.
- 36:51Speaker 4: Just be and then and then you can go in
- 36:53Speaker 4: and kind of.
- 36:53Speaker 3: Take the oil fields in the south and just kind
- 36:55Speaker 3: of cording that off. So that's like the long term
- 36:59Speaker 3: goal and the total miseration of tens of millions of Iranians.
- 37:04Speaker 3: And so the idea that Okay, once we do the
- 37:06Speaker 3: nuclear thing, the next thing they're gonna say, well, we
- 37:08Speaker 3: want the ballistic missiles. You can't have ballistic missiles. You
- 37:12Speaker 3: can't have any missiles that go more than that can
- 37:14Speaker 3: reach Israel. And then if we could get that, then
- 37:18Speaker 3: we're gonna move and say, oh, you can't support anybody
- 37:20Speaker 3: else outside of outside I run. You can't support the
- 37:24Speaker 3: Iraqi militias, you can't support has supports Moss, you can't
- 37:26Speaker 3: support pid like whatever you case. You can't do any
- 37:29Speaker 3: of that. And Iran has been very clear we're not
- 37:32Speaker 3: agreeing to these things. You want to talk nuclear program,
- 37:35Speaker 3: let's talk nuclear program. So last time they were announcing
- 37:40Speaker 3: that they were making all kinds of progress on the deal,
- 37:42Speaker 3: and then boom, they like kill the negotiators and kill
- 37:45Speaker 3: the scientists, and then launched the twelve day war.
- 37:50Speaker 4: And so.
- 37:53Speaker 3: Now they're back and they're saying like, we've got the
- 37:56Speaker 3: contours of a deal. But so Iran is saying that,
- 37:58Speaker 3: which means that the US has agreed to keep.
- 38:01Speaker 4: It to nuclear talks. But Trump, if you you know.
- 38:05Speaker 3: He told Larry Cutlow, this is his quote. He says,
- 38:10Speaker 3: it's got to be a good deal. No nuclear weapons,
- 38:13Speaker 3: no missiles. Know this, Know that all the different things
- 38:16Speaker 3: that you want. Now, if you're Ron, like, does that
- 38:22Speaker 3: sound like somebody who's engaged in like genuine negotiations, Like
- 38:26Speaker 3: are you taking the negotiations seriously? It's got to be
- 38:29Speaker 3: a good deal. No nuclear weapons, no missiles, know this,
- 38:32Speaker 3: know that, all.
- 38:32Speaker 4: The different things that you want. Who's the U is to.
- 38:37Speaker 3: Larry Cutlow that Larry Cutlow wants, Yeah that, well.
- 38:42Speaker 4: All the things you want, know this, know that.
- 38:45Speaker 3: Like Trump is not even trying to put on an
- 38:48Speaker 3: act that these talks are serious, Like he has moved
- 38:55Speaker 3: anything that can float or fly and launch a missile
- 38:59Speaker 3: has been moved within striking range of Iran. Like the
- 39:05Speaker 3: build up outside there, I think we have a piece
- 39:08Speaker 3: that drops out on this as well later today by.
- 39:12Speaker 4: Mas and I think by Jeremy too.
- 39:16Speaker 3: The build up makes the previous armada, you know, look
- 39:21Speaker 3: like a pinprick.
- 39:24Speaker 4: And so I feel like Trump has.
- 39:27Speaker 3: Put himself in a position where he doesn't have the
- 39:30Speaker 3: strength to like back down from it.
- 39:32Speaker 4: He's put so many missiles over there, right, and.
- 39:36Speaker 5: He's made such like such intense threat saying, you know,
- 39:39Speaker 5: if you start harming protesters, and then he backs down
- 39:43Speaker 5: off of that one then sends another aircraft carrier. He's
- 39:48Speaker 5: talked very tough, so to your point, as he talked
- 39:51Speaker 5: himself into a corner.
- 39:52Speaker 3: And yeah, and what's interesting is that last time, I'm
- 39:57Speaker 3: curious how he gets out of this, you're or how
- 40:00Speaker 3: Trump thinks he gets out of this. So the last
- 40:03Speaker 3: time he did this, he's stopped the war at twelve days,
- 40:08Speaker 3: and people were glad because it could like they were like,
- 40:10Speaker 3: this could go on for a very very long time.
- 40:13Speaker 3: And the way he stopped it was by saying we
- 40:16Speaker 3: smashed the nuclear program to smotherings set them back many years.
- 40:23Speaker 4: Turns out leaked audio from Netnyahu.
- 40:25Speaker 3: Just days earlier had said they were years away already,
- 40:28Speaker 3: so he was correct. They're still years away. They were
- 40:30Speaker 3: they were years away, still years away. But they blew
- 40:33Speaker 3: up a lot of things. And he watched it on
- 40:36Speaker 3: his you know, video game console. Yeah, and so he's
- 40:40Speaker 3: and he's out there these handsome fighters.
- 40:42Speaker 4: You know, they did incredible job.
- 40:45Speaker 3: We did Top Gun three and we're so proud of ourselves,
- 40:49Speaker 3: and we're ending the wars.
- 40:50Speaker 5: So they're the jet in the White House. It's next
- 40:52Speaker 5: to the Resolute desk, like it has a model of it.
- 40:56Speaker 4: Yeah, he loves it. And so so that's how he
- 40:58Speaker 4: gets out of it.
- 41:00Speaker 3: Well, I guess he could say he blew up every
- 41:03Speaker 3: ballistic missile. Okay, they don't have ballistic missiles anymore. And
- 41:07Speaker 3: then you could say, well, and the proxies are so
- 41:09Speaker 3: weak that like needs to stop crying about them.
- 41:14Speaker 4: So maybe that's the way out. But yeah, how does Trump.
- 41:16Speaker 3: So Trump's gonna start, Let's say he starts the war
- 41:19Speaker 3: very much looks like he's going to. Iran has said
- 41:23Speaker 3: we're in a nothing left to lose situation, and so
- 41:27Speaker 3: they fire as much as they possibly can. Now the
- 41:30Speaker 3: US has such firepower there that they may be able
- 41:33Speaker 3: to just take out everything Iran has and be able
- 41:36Speaker 3: to stop it before it lands.
- 41:37Speaker 4: That's possible either way. They have said that.
- 41:41Speaker 3: They're going to launch strikes at American bases where there
- 41:47Speaker 3: are American troops, with the intent to kill hundreds of
- 41:51Speaker 3: American troops to set up a deterrent. We also reported
- 41:54Speaker 3: that there are hundreds of Afghan refugees still stuck at
- 41:58Speaker 3: this base and cut her because they got stuck in
- 42:02Speaker 3: this diplomatic limbo, like we moved them out of Afghanistan,
- 42:05Speaker 3: but we won't let them in the US, so they're
- 42:07Speaker 3: just like sitting ducks. That would be the worst outcome
- 42:13Speaker 3: like that. Iran just killed hundreds of Afghan refugees stuck
- 42:16Speaker 3: at an American base. Okay, so Iran launches all of
- 42:21Speaker 3: its missiles. Then you know Trump fires and blows up
- 42:25Speaker 3: with the nuclear plants. Again it's missiles. Like, how does
- 42:28Speaker 3: he end, right, especially if there are American troops killed?
- 42:33Speaker 5: Right?
- 42:34Speaker 4: I got his Trump? How do you see Trump ending
- 42:36Speaker 4: this one?
- 42:38Speaker 5: I have no idea. I mean, I think, on the
- 42:40Speaker 5: one hand, the quote that you read suggests a flippancy.
- 42:45Speaker 5: I think you're right about that. But on the other hand,
- 42:47Speaker 5: I wonder if it's because he feels like he dispatched
- 42:49Speaker 5: Jared Kushner and Steve Whitkoff and actually can find some
- 42:54Speaker 5: Gaza style historic agreement. Maybe it's only as good as
- 42:58Speaker 5: the paper that it's written on, but he can say
- 43:00Speaker 5: he did it. And that actually brings us to what
- 43:03Speaker 5: you all were reporting at drop Site. So, yeah, wik
- 43:06Speaker 5: Coffin Gushner were negotiating this in Geneva yesterday, and that's
- 43:09Speaker 5: where Vice President Advance came out and said negotiations went
- 43:13Speaker 5: well in some respects is what he told Fox News.
- 43:15Speaker 5: But on the other you know, President Trump has been
- 43:17Speaker 5: clearly has all these red lines. Let's just jump to
- 43:20Speaker 5: B three here. This is a drop Site exclusive that
- 43:24Speaker 5: says Hamas says it will not unilaterally disarm as Trump
- 43:29Speaker 5: and at Yahoo threatened a return to full scale war. Ryan.
- 43:34Speaker 5: That's a report from Jeremy yesterday, and so it's the
- 43:41Speaker 5: what's the best way to put this? That happening in
- 43:45Speaker 5: parallel to the Iran talks is quite interesting because I
- 43:48Speaker 5: actually I do think Trump to some degree thinks that
- 43:53Speaker 5: he's sending wit Coffin Kushner around with this mission of
- 43:58Speaker 5: putting together grand goals that can be marketed as major
- 44:03Speaker 5: wins for peace, world peace, and their business friendly and
- 44:07Speaker 5: they're not like what anybody has ever done before. And
- 44:10Speaker 5: so he just kind of, I don't know is the
- 44:12Speaker 5: right way to say, trust the process, like he trusts
- 44:15Speaker 5: the process that Wikoff and Kushner have and if.
- 44:17Speaker 4: It careabout because he knows he's going to do war.
- 44:19Speaker 5: Well, if it falls apart, then he's he's comfortable doing more.
- 44:24Speaker 5: It's almost like he it's a horse of peace. I
- 44:27Speaker 5: don't know. It's it's really hard to know what he
- 44:29Speaker 5: thinks about all of this because if you could maybe
- 44:32Speaker 5: even walk us through a little bit of what Jeremy
- 44:34Speaker 5: is hearing and Job says hearing from the Hamas side
- 44:38Speaker 5: related to Gaza, how serious was any of that? I mean,
- 44:42Speaker 5: we're learning in real time how serious the different points
- 44:44Speaker 5: of the peace plan were. So that gives us, I
- 44:47Speaker 5: think some clues as to the authority that Kushner and
- 44:50Speaker 5: Wicough have in negotiations with Iron two, right, And.
- 44:54Speaker 3: This goes back to reality versus reality distortion. So the
- 44:58Speaker 3: reality of the fire was that Hamas very explicitly never
- 45:05Speaker 3: agreed to disarm as part of the ceasefire. They agreed
- 45:10Speaker 3: to cease fire. That was it, and they were very explicit.
- 45:14Speaker 3: If you want to talk about disarmament, Hamas is willing
- 45:19Speaker 3: to participate in those talks in the context of a
- 45:23Speaker 3: national conversation among all Palestinian factions toward a process of
- 45:29Speaker 3: self determination and government, which means as long as there
- 45:33Speaker 3: is a Palestinian police force that is constituted, then Hamas is.
- 45:41Speaker 4: Open to disarming.
- 45:43Speaker 3: But we're not going to Hamas is saying we're not
- 45:46Speaker 3: going to just disarm and then allow the Israelis to
- 45:52Speaker 3: come in and massacre US. They never agreed to that,
- 45:57Speaker 3: and so there's everything they've agreed to. Islet was through
- 46:03Speaker 3: Phase one is now supposed to be leading into phase two,
- 46:06Speaker 3: which is the reconstruction. Israel is saying we cannot move
- 46:10Speaker 3: into phase two reconstruction until we have disarmed tom US.
- 46:15Speaker 3: So Israel couldn't win disarmament on the battlefield, they couldn't
- 46:20Speaker 3: win it at the negotiating table, and so now they're
- 46:23Speaker 3: just trying to state it as fact and then get
- 46:29Speaker 3: the US because Israel couldn't do it, get the US
- 46:32Speaker 3: to execute on it.
- 46:35Speaker 4: And from Trump's perspective.
- 46:37Speaker 3: I think he does get like, well, wait a minute,
- 46:38Speaker 3: hold on, you couldn't do it now, you want us
- 46:41Speaker 3: to do it for you. But Trump seems to be
- 46:45Speaker 3: willing to effectively just go along. And so they're saying, well,
- 46:48Speaker 3: we're going to give Hamas sixty days.
- 46:51Speaker 4: Now. The other problem for.
- 46:52Speaker 3: Israel here just rhetorically and optically, Nennahu's saying, there's basically
- 46:57Speaker 3: no soul programs left, know, like none of those types
- 47:04Speaker 3: of heavy munitions. And Hamas has said, we're actually willing
- 47:09Speaker 3: to agree to any limits that you want on rockets.
- 47:13Speaker 5: Sure disarming in that respect, right what.
- 47:16Speaker 3: You would call as Israel likes to call them offensive weapons,
- 47:20Speaker 3: but they don't want to give up defensive weapons. Notice,
- 47:22Speaker 3: how like even in here in the US, even a
- 47:26Speaker 3: people like AOC are like, no, but Israel deserves defensive weapons.
- 47:29Speaker 3: Even as she acknowledges they're carrying out a genocide, they're
- 47:32Speaker 3: still entitled to defensive weapons. So what about the armed
- 47:37Speaker 3: faction resisting the genocide, They're not entitled to defensive weapons
- 47:42Speaker 3: like that. Somebody tried to explain the logical consistency there.
- 47:46Speaker 3: So what Netna who says is that there are about
- 47:49Speaker 3: sixty thousand AK forty sevens that are in circulation in
- 47:54Speaker 3: the part of Gaza that Israel does not yet occupy,
- 47:58Speaker 3: and that he wants every single one of those out
- 48:01Speaker 3: before he will allow any reconstruction. Hamas is saying, no,
- 48:04Speaker 3: we don't trust you. We think that you will massacress,
- 48:07Speaker 3: you're carrying out a genocide. But from the from outsider's perspective,
- 48:12Speaker 3: you're like, wait a minute, aren't you like like the
- 48:15Speaker 3: most well armed military outside of the United States in
- 48:20Speaker 3: world history, And you're crying to us about sixty thousand
- 48:24Speaker 3: AK forty sevens and you're going to starve a civilian
- 48:29Speaker 3: population and refuse like reconstruction and over these AK over
- 48:36Speaker 3: AK forty sevens, Like how about you just stop doing
- 48:40Speaker 3: the war? Just how about that? Like they're agreeing to
- 48:43Speaker 3: no missiles so we can put up B two. The
- 48:46Speaker 3: border piece is meeting tomorrow, this Trump's Trump's boarder piece,
- 48:51Speaker 3: and they're going to push this, push this forward. But
- 48:55Speaker 3: and there's then there's talk about, you know, getting this
- 48:58Speaker 3: International Stabilization Force was Indonesia is talking about, you know,
- 49:03Speaker 3: getting closer to having truth. But we're telling you it's
- 49:05Speaker 3: like we're like a year out or something from that.
- 49:08Speaker 3: And so if you're Amas, you have said and all
- 49:11Speaker 3: of the resistance factions have have apparently agreed, like we're
- 49:15Speaker 3: not going to disarm until there is some type of
- 49:18Speaker 3: mutually agreed upon Palestinian led police force. And like unless
- 49:26Speaker 3: you're like completely blinkered by propaganda, how how is that
- 49:30Speaker 3: remotely an objectionable position? Like you, like, unless you're an
- 49:33Speaker 3: abolished the police type. Maybe that's net Yahoo, Like he's like,
- 49:38Speaker 3: what are you the police? This is just this Karcarle approach.
- 49:41Speaker 5: It's a criminal justice criminal.
- 49:42Speaker 3: He's a hardcore Kushner. Right, did the first step act? Maybe, yeah,
- 49:46Speaker 3: that's right. He's influenced by Kushner him. He's not all
- 49:49Speaker 3: the way at abolish the police.
- 49:51Speaker 5: The unjust prosecution of Netanyahu.
- 49:54Speaker 4: Himself, that's true.
- 49:55Speaker 3: He probably is feeling sympathy for the criminal justice reform
- 49:59Speaker 3: movement because of his own he's been brought into the fold,
- 50:01Speaker 3: he has been so yeah, so netasn abolish the police type,
- 50:05Speaker 3: which respect, but most people are not.
- 50:09Speaker 4: Like most people are like, no, you actually.
- 50:10Speaker 3: Need a police force, especially if there's a genocidal army
- 50:14Speaker 3: bearing down on you, that is on a daily basis,
- 50:20Speaker 3: uttering genocidal statements and promising to annihilate you.
- 50:24Speaker 5: That sounds like the type of negotiating point the Trump
- 50:27Speaker 5: administration of that Trump Camp would contra previous administrations. I
- 50:35Speaker 5: don't know compromise the right word, but accept in the
- 50:37Speaker 5: process of.
- 50:38Speaker 4: Getting a deal he has accepted in the past.
- 50:40Speaker 5: I was going to ask, Yeah, what do we know
- 50:41Speaker 5: about how that can go with border pieces meeting tomorrow?
- 50:44Speaker 5: They just left Geneva.
- 50:45Speaker 3: Yeah, Trump has said publicly and he gets it, like, yeah,
- 50:48Speaker 3: they need, you need to have security. He doesn't want
- 50:50Speaker 3: it to become like a rack means a depathification like
- 50:52Speaker 3: Trump Trump. Trump is in this interesting point in his
- 50:56Speaker 3: life I think where he goes in and out of it,
- 50:59Speaker 3: like he'll have moments clarity and then moments where he's like, yeah, whatever, yahoo,
- 51:05Speaker 3: do whatever you want.
- 51:06Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that's a that's a pretty good summary of
- 51:10Speaker 5: everything we just talked about. Moments of moments of clarity
- 51:13Speaker 5: and then moments where he's like, yeah, yeahoo, do whatever
- 51:15Speaker 5: you want.
- 51:16Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, we're I think we're right now at
- 51:18Speaker 3: a do whatever you want then yeahoo moment.
- 51:22Speaker 5: What a time to be alive. Speaking of Trump doing war,
- 51:28Speaker 5: let's move on to another boat strike. We but see
- 51:32Speaker 5: one up on the screen. This is from south Com.
- 51:36Speaker 5: This is video Southcom released just yesterday, less than twenty
- 51:41Speaker 5: four hours ago. Late on February sixteenth, at the direction
- 51:43Speaker 5: of Southcom Commander General Franchiselle Donovan, Joint Tax Force Southern
- 51:47Speaker 5: Spear conducted three lethal kinetic strikes on three vessels operated
- 51:51Speaker 5: by designated terrorist organizations. This is apparently what you're looking
- 51:55Speaker 5: at on your screen. Intelligence confirm the vessels we're transitting
- 51:58Speaker 5: along non narco tra trafficking routes and were engaged in
- 52:01Speaker 5: narco trafficking operations. Eleven male NARCO terrorists were killed during
- 52:06Speaker 5: these actions, four on the first vessel in the Eastern Pacific,
- 52:09Speaker 5: four on the second vessel in the Eastern Pacific, and
- 52:11Speaker 5: three on the third vessel in the Caribbean. No US
- 52:15Speaker 5: military forces were harmed.
- 52:17Speaker 4: Ryan there was incredible line.
- 52:19Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we carried out this attack from air conditioned
- 52:22Speaker 3: rooms in like Florida.
- 52:24Speaker 4: Nobody was No US military personal were injured in the operations.
- 52:27Speaker 5: Well, and once again we are relying on their claims
- 52:33Speaker 5: that the intelligence confirmed these were people quote engaged in
- 52:38Speaker 5: narco trafficking operations transitting along quote known narco trafficking routes,
- 52:43Speaker 5: and I have to say, reading between the lines them
- 52:46Speaker 5: saying one the boats were transitting along non narco trafficking
- 52:49Speaker 5: routes and two were engaged in narco trafficking operations, it
- 52:52Speaker 5: tells me that their intelligence is literally that the boats
- 52:55Speaker 5: were on the routes. We don't know, though. That's just
- 52:58Speaker 5: me reading between the lines. They don't tell us what
- 53:00Speaker 5: they knew. They aren't putting anybody on trial. They're just
- 53:04Speaker 5: blowing them up once again, right, And.
- 53:08Speaker 3: We wanted to cover this because the term normalized was
- 53:11Speaker 3: abused in the first Trump term. But if you don't
- 53:16Speaker 3: cover these like and you just kind of acknowledge that
- 53:20Speaker 3: it's just normal that one government is sending drones into
- 53:26Speaker 3: the sky and just blowing up boats like it is.
- 53:29Speaker 4: A criming as humanity.
- 53:32Speaker 3: And so they've now hit at least forty two boats
- 53:37Speaker 3: and killed at least one hundred and forty four people.
- 53:41Speaker 3: There are some lawsuits already, like from I think some
- 53:44Speaker 3: Colombia and Venezuelan citizens or they're loved ones of them,
- 53:49Speaker 3: for wrongful death the Coastguard when they intercepped boats. Oftentimes
- 53:59Speaker 3: they get it right, something like a third of the time.
- 54:02Speaker 5: Yeah, Rand Paul's pointing this.
- 54:03Speaker 4: Out, something like a third at the time they get
- 54:05Speaker 4: it wrong. And that's with.
- 54:08Speaker 3: You know, binoculars, and they're closer, they're like able to look.
- 54:12Speaker 3: They're like, okay, like we've been out here doing this
- 54:15Speaker 3: a long time. That looks like a drug boat toss.
- 54:19Speaker 3: And they stop it because you get stopped by the
- 54:21Speaker 3: American Coast Guard that you stop. Yeah, that's what happens.
- 54:26Speaker 3: They boored it, they start it, you oftentimes they find it.
- 54:29Speaker 3: And then what you can do is you can then
- 54:32Speaker 3: ask them who paid you to do this? And that's
- 54:35Speaker 3: how you do these drug enforcement operations awful often with
- 54:39Speaker 3: the Cubans in the past.
- 54:40Speaker 5: Well, you can also take the alleged drugs off of
- 54:45Speaker 5: the boat and process them and such.
- 54:48Speaker 4: Yeah, process them up through your nose and sell them.
- 54:51Speaker 5: Yes, their process can be many things.
- 54:55Speaker 3: Yes, it's shockingly there's a lot of a lot of
- 54:57Speaker 3: shrinkage between the the seizure and the trial and often
- 55:04Speaker 3: oftentimes but you know, setting that aside, if the coast Guard,
- 55:10Speaker 3: which has been doing this for decades and can do
- 55:13Speaker 3: it from the sea, is getting it wrong one out
- 55:16Speaker 3: of three times, why do we think that Pete Hagsth
- 55:20Speaker 3: doing it as a video game is going to get
- 55:23Speaker 3: it right one hundred percent of the time.
- 55:24Speaker 4: That is setting aside the question.
- 55:28Speaker 3: Whether if the person is carrying drugs we are within
- 55:33Speaker 3: our rights to execute them.
- 55:35Speaker 5: That they are engaged in in active combat, right, that's
- 55:37Speaker 5: the argument, is that they are engaged in a concerted
- 55:42Speaker 5: government effort from Venezuela.
- 55:44Speaker 4: To our ally.
- 55:47Speaker 5: Now we're in charge of Venezuela. Yes, that they are
- 55:50Speaker 5: engaged in a concerted that's a great point. By the way,
- 55:52Speaker 5: this is post regime change, postmoduro. I mean, it's not
- 55:56Speaker 5: technically a regime change, but postmoduro. The argument is that
- 56:00Speaker 5: they are engaged in an act of war by trafficking. Again,
- 56:04Speaker 5: the reason that you arrest people and then you tell
- 56:07Speaker 5: the public what you're hearing. The reason you do that
- 56:11Speaker 5: is precisely so that you know where they're actually going.
- 56:13Speaker 5: Are they going to Trinidad? Are they going to other places?
- 56:17Speaker 5: Are these Is this going to Europe? A lot of
- 56:19Speaker 5: the cocaine from Venezuela goes to Europe, probably more than
- 56:22Speaker 5: goes to the United States. So we have no idea,
- 56:25Speaker 5: and I don't know how their intelligence tells them precisely
- 56:29Speaker 5: that this was narco trafficking coming to the United States
- 56:33Speaker 5: by the government, organized by government actors state actors to
- 56:38Speaker 5: commit war against the American people. That's all the burden
- 56:42Speaker 5: that has to be met for this to make any sense.
- 56:44Speaker 5: And to your point, that's why we're covering this. Yeah,
- 56:46Speaker 5: that makes no sense.
- 56:47Speaker 3: Yeah, you make a very good point, and so and
- 56:49Speaker 3: I think it's hard for people to like take seriously
- 56:52Speaker 3: the argument that the US is making here to make
- 56:55Speaker 3: these strikes quote unquote legal. But if you do for
- 56:59Speaker 3: a seconds, just the very important point that Emily is
- 57:02Speaker 3: making there. The US's claim that these are legal lethal
- 57:07Speaker 3: strikes is rooted in the false claim. But let's let's
- 57:11Speaker 3: accept the claim that trend de Aragua is a foreign
- 57:14Speaker 3: terrorist organization that is run by Maduro that is at
- 57:19Speaker 3: war with the United States, and that all of the
- 57:22Speaker 3: narco traffickers in the Pacific, which two of the strikes
- 57:25Speaker 3: are in the Pacific, Like, why is Trendragua sending people
- 57:29Speaker 3: out to Pacific Eastern Pacific?
- 57:30Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what they do.
- 57:31Speaker 3: Like no, like if if they're Venezuela and they're in
- 57:35Speaker 3: the Caribbean, not the Pacific.
- 57:37Speaker 4: But let's just pretend that all three of these ships.
- 57:40Speaker 4: We're going to grant.
- 57:41Speaker 3: Everything to the government's argument here, all three of these
- 57:44Speaker 3: ships are Torendo Aragua. There's no there's there's no evidence
- 57:48Speaker 3: that Tournio Aragua is a international narco trafficking group. They're
- 57:51Speaker 3: they're like thugs who like beat people up and like
- 57:55Speaker 3: extort people, and like one of those gangs.
- 57:57Speaker 5: They almost certainly have some integration the Venezuela government. Of course,
- 58:02Speaker 5: almost certainly, that is absolutely true. But whether they're being
- 58:06Speaker 5: used as a military force by the Venezuelan government.
- 58:09Speaker 3: Warnow, Let's pretend, just for the sake of argument, that
- 58:13Speaker 3: Maduro was in fact running Trendy Ragua, and that Trende
- 58:17Speaker 3: Ragua was running all of these drugs and that so
- 58:19Speaker 3: the argument from the US was, if we blow up
- 58:22Speaker 3: these boats they are, that is depriving the Maduro regime,
- 58:27Speaker 3: which is a narco terrorist regime that is at war
- 58:30Speaker 3: with the United States, from that revenue. And that's what
- 58:33Speaker 3: makes these legal strikes.
- 58:36Speaker 4: As you may have noticed.
- 58:37Speaker 3: From following the news, Maduro is now in jail in
- 58:42Speaker 3: the United States. Delsea Rodriguez is running Venezuela Trump just
- 58:47Speaker 3: yesterday said that Delca ron Rigaez is doing a tremendous job,
- 58:53Speaker 3: and that we are running Venezuela, and that she is
- 58:55Speaker 3: doing a tremendous job on our behalf of running Venezuela.
- 58:59Speaker 5: This is someone who was again organizing allegedly Trendi Arragua
- 59:02Speaker 5: to commit war against the United States government, and that
- 59:05Speaker 5: we are still striking people allegedly.
- 59:07Speaker 4: Right, So she's doing a tremendous job.
- 59:08Speaker 3: She's on our side, We in fact are running If
- 59:12Speaker 3: it's true that the Venezuelan government is still running Trenda Iragua,
- 59:15Speaker 3: then Trump is running it, right.
- 59:17Speaker 4: I mean, but.
- 59:18Speaker 3: According to you Trump's logic, he has Delsi is great,
- 59:23Speaker 3: she's an ally and Venezuela is not at war with
- 59:27Speaker 3: the United States. So then your legal justification that you
- 59:33Speaker 3: have put forward for these strikes has completely evaporated. It
- 59:39Speaker 3: was it never made any sense to begin with, to
- 59:42Speaker 3: be clear, but now it has zero basis, Like this
- 59:48Speaker 3: is now you're now just killing at best, narco traffickers,
- 59:54Speaker 3: at worst, innocent people, completely innocent people who are.
- 59:57Speaker 5: On the boats without a trial.
- 1:00:00Speaker 4: So if they are.
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: Narco traffickers at this point and the money is going
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: back to some government. It's either going back to Ecuador,
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: which is your your ally, Noboa, Colombia who he doesn't
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: like Petro but like not, we're not he doesn't claim
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: that Columbia's at war with us, or Venezuela, which is
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: our ally now which we run, or what else. Alvador
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: Hunter like, there's there's no one down there that we're
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: saying is at war with us other than Cuba.
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: And we're not saying.
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: That that Cuba isn't behind this now don't apparently. Yeah, anyway,
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: we're still total like utterly, completely, totally criminal, even by
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: the government's own attempted explanations, like your point is a
- 1:00:54Speaker 3: good one, that like the world changed when they took
- 1:00:57Speaker 3: Maduro and that and we we pulled out our rationale
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: for these strikes and continue the strikes anyway because we
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: do not care.
- 1:01:07Speaker 5: Well, we'll see if they I mean, we'll see if
- 1:01:09Speaker 5: they even bother to I mean, they're posting the footage here.
- 1:01:12Speaker 5: We'll see if they even bothered to say, you know
- 1:01:16Speaker 5: what state actor.
- 1:01:18Speaker 6: They mean.
- 1:01:19Speaker 5: All assumptions for the rest of the forty one other
- 1:01:22Speaker 5: strikes since what September would be that it was the Venezuelan.
- 1:01:27Speaker 5: It was Narco traffickers operating on behalf of the Venezuelan government,
- 1:01:30Speaker 5: on behalf of Madurero. This was happening to be a
- 1:01:33Speaker 5: shot across the bow to Maduro to either squeeze them
- 1:01:36Speaker 5: out or make a regime change operation seem justified. And
- 1:01:41Speaker 5: now that that's happened, we will see if they even
- 1:01:44Speaker 5: bother to say who they think these narco traffickers were
- 1:01:50Speaker 5: committing an act of war on behalf of because so
- 1:01:52Speaker 5: far it's nothing. So far, it's just almost bragging by
- 1:01:55Speaker 5: posting that video we played earlier of the strikes. So
- 1:02:00Speaker 5: I'm curious if they respond to that. Let's let's put
- 1:02:02Speaker 5: in a comment request with the State Department. Actually that
- 1:02:04Speaker 5: sounds good.
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: Hey, what's or in defense department? Like you're doing this
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: criminal activity?
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: Why? Yeah, what's your justification? Well, I mean, well it's Rubio,
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: like yeah.
- 1:02:19Speaker 5: Yeah, the well, because if it's Venezuela, I would love
- 1:02:21Speaker 5: to know. If we think that Riguez is organizing war, then.
- 1:02:26Speaker 4: Is Rubio the kingpin?
- 1:02:29Speaker 5: Or I think Trump is the king pin?
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: Yeah, Narco Rubio