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Wired To Hunt Podcast #197: Over-Analyzing Our 2017 Deer Hunting Seasons · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This episode number one, and today
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  Speaker 1: on the show, Dan and I are doing a deep
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  Speaker 1: dive into our own two thousand seventeen deer hunting seasons
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  Speaker 1: to discuss the mistakes we made, the lessons we learned,
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  Speaker 1: and the areas were hoping to improve on in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand eighteen. Hey, guys, before we get into the episode,
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  Speaker 1: I want to point out two quick things. First, for
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  Speaker 1: some reason, my microphone on this recording was acting up
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  Speaker 1: and it resulted in lower quality audio on my end,
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  Speaker 1: So apologies for that in advance. And secondly, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to mention here in this intro, as you just heard,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be discussing me in Dance two thousand
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  Speaker 1: seventeen seasons and reviewing what we did right and what
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  Speaker 1: we did wrong. So you might be asking yourself, though,
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  Speaker 1: how is this, How is this valuable to me the listener? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think at the surface level you can learn something
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  Speaker 1: here from the specific examples we bring up, such as
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  Speaker 1: the unique hunting decisions or situations or challenges that we
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  Speaker 1: encountered throughout the season that we're talk about here over
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  Speaker 1: the next hour or so. So you can learn something
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  Speaker 1: from those actual hunting elements, but just as important, I
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  Speaker 1: think you can learn something about the process we went
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  Speaker 1: through here, the actual act of reflecting on the past
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  Speaker 1: hunting season. Our goals are expectations, are steps towards those goals,
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  Speaker 1: are failings towards those goals. And I think and I
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  Speaker 1: hope that by listening to us discuss these things and
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  Speaker 1: then thinking about how you could try this yourself, you
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  Speaker 1: can actually learn a little bit about how to better
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  Speaker 1: review your own season. And maybe you'll pick up some
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  Speaker 1: good ideas, maybe you'll know some things that you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to do. Um Either way, i'd encourage you to
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  Speaker 1: listen to this conversation through that lens of your own season,
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  Speaker 1: and then try doing some reflection like this on your
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  Speaker 1: own in the coming days. I hope that you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: find that to be a valuable exercise. And so with
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  Speaker 1: all that said, enough of me. Let's get right into it,
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  Speaker 1: all right, folks. Welcome back to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by sick gear
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  Speaker 1: and today it is just myself and Mr Dan Johnson
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  Speaker 1: there over in Iowa. And today what I wanted us
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  Speaker 1: to do, Dan, if you're up for this, is I
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  Speaker 1: want to look back at two thousand seventeen. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we are now in the first week or two of
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  Speaker 1: January two eighteen, and the hunting season is behind us.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to take a look at all the
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  Speaker 1: mistake because we made. I want to take a look
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  Speaker 1: at all the things that maybe we did well, um,
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  Speaker 1: the lessons we learned. UM. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: do this like I do, But as I get towards
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  Speaker 1: the end of the season, I spent a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time looking back and thinking through and kind of reflecting
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  Speaker 1: on you know, were there any themes that that I
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  Speaker 1: kind of noticed from the season. Was there any big
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  Speaker 1: things that should have done differently? Or Um? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I just spent a lot of time thinking back on
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  Speaker 1: those things. So I kind of want to do that
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  Speaker 1: on air, I suppose, because especially for me this year,
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  Speaker 1: I felt like this was just anyway. I mean, I've
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  Speaker 1: said it before, but this was a very challenging season.
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  Speaker 1: This was a frustrating season. Um, So I want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that I'm learning from this. Um. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's I think in any time you fail or come
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  Speaker 1: up against something tough, there's an opportunity to grow from that.
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  Speaker 1: So I should, as how better grow from this season
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't get anything else from it. So that's
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  Speaker 1: that's what I want to try to do today, is
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of verbalize some of that and talk through
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  Speaker 1: some of those things that that we learned, um, and
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully that then provides, you know, like an illustration
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  Speaker 1: for everyone listening, UM. So then maybe they can learn
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  Speaker 1: from some of the good things we did some of
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  Speaker 1: the bad things we did, um, and apply that to
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  Speaker 1: their own, you know, future seasons and all that. So,
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  Speaker 1: but I guess before we get into the meat of it,
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  Speaker 1: do you ever anything new on the leather side of things?
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any Dad's stories. I gotta tell you
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  Speaker 1: better take advantage of these now, Dan, because in a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks you will not be the only one that
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  Speaker 1: can tell dad stories. Dude. I'm actually looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: your dad's stories just like just to compare how your
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  Speaker 1: dad stories and my dad stories are. Because I will
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  Speaker 1: tell you this, I will tell you this, and I
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  Speaker 1: always you know, I I joke and a bit about
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  Speaker 1: my kids quite a bit. But I want to tell
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  Speaker 1: you this is gonna be a little sentimental. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't want to change the tone of the website,
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  Speaker 1: but you know I'm gonna I'm going to anyway. But
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  Speaker 1: you have you have these you have these blinders on
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  Speaker 1: almost when you know, like how important what what is
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  Speaker 1: important in life? Before a kid is born? Right, And
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  Speaker 1: I've always thought of what this other deer hunter told me.
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  Speaker 1: He's a hardcore deer hunter, and he told he told
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  Speaker 1: me this, and it was when I was when my
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  Speaker 1: wife was pregnant with my daughter, my my firstborn, so
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  Speaker 1: at that time I didn't have any kids. And he
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  Speaker 1: says to me, two things are gonna happen, Like you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna perspective in life is going to change, like what
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  Speaker 1: what's important is going to change. And you will not
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  Speaker 1: realize how much your parents loved you until the day
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  Speaker 1: that you have your kid. And the day that my
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  Speaker 1: daughter was born, and it happened really fast. They pulled
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  Speaker 1: her out of my wife. They set her on my
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  Speaker 1: wife's chest and she looked at me with these wide
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  Speaker 1: open eyes and she smiled. I swear to guy. She
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  Speaker 1: smiled and you know, babies can't smile at that. That's
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  Speaker 1: what it looked like, right, And I had this overwhelming
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  Speaker 1: feeling come over me that at that moment in my life,
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  Speaker 1: all of my priorities changed, all of you know, like
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  Speaker 1: what I thought was important in life changed, who how
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  Speaker 1: much I thought people loved me and how much I
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  Speaker 1: love people changed, And it just was like this, this
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  Speaker 1: this tectonic shift in life. And uh, you know, as
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  Speaker 1: much as I like today, my kid, my son is
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  Speaker 1: in the other room, which mac mac he got he
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  Speaker 1: got kicked on some ladies and gentlemen. Yep, he got
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  Speaker 1: kicked out of daycare today for hitting and pushing. So
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  Speaker 1: I had I had to leave work and that's why
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  Speaker 1: we're recording this podcast now with him in the other room.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully he doesn't interrupt. But you know, like as much
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  Speaker 1: as as much as I talked ship all my kids,
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  Speaker 1: I love them to death and it's it's just hashtag
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  Speaker 1: dead life. Man. You you mentioned that moment when your
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  Speaker 1: daughter arrived in the world, and how like that was
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful moment from you. Um, I just had my
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  Speaker 1: quote unquote diaper party kind of deal this past weekend
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  Speaker 1: so you know, a bunch of your buddies get together
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  Speaker 1: and you do something, and then they bring a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of diapers. Um, kind of get just set up a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. So we spent the day ice fishing and
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  Speaker 1: rabbit hunting and shooting longbows and guns and stuff like that. Um.
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  Speaker 1: We spent the whole day doing that. And then in
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  Speaker 1: the evenings, the wives met up with us at one
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  Speaker 1: of my buddies houses and we all, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: all got together. So that was a good time, really
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  Speaker 1: good time. Um. But that night, you know, I was
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  Speaker 1: with all these couples and they all had kids except
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  Speaker 1: for me. Um In Further Further was there and he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have any kids yet. Um. But all they basically
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  Speaker 1: did was tell like horror story is about babies. And
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  Speaker 1: one of the things I kept saying is that when
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  Speaker 1: it comes out right away, they were saying, it is
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  Speaker 1: not the most beautiful thing. They're saying, it's pretty disgusting.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't look like the cute little gerber baby you're
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  Speaker 1: seeing commercials, and that it's covered in like white stuff
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  Speaker 1: and cone headed. And I mean, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: my little dude is going to be smiling at me.
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  Speaker 1: I got a feeling he's gonna come out looking like
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, something alien. Yeah, I can't go. My
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  Speaker 1: daughter she came out, and you know, I'm I'm that
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  Speaker 1: I was that dad who I got. You know, my
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  Speaker 1: wife had one leg on my arm and you know
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  Speaker 1: I was leaning an into her when she started pushing.
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  Speaker 1: My daughter was born. It was a very beautiful thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, without going into too much detail, right, we
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  Speaker 1: all know where babies come from, but you know it
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  Speaker 1: was beautiful, Like I washed it and I was just like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, it's a birth. Now. I was in
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  Speaker 1: the same exact position when my nine percentile head measurement
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  Speaker 1: son came out, and that was a completely different experience
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  Speaker 1: where I don't know if you've ever seen the movie
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  Speaker 1: Um where where Jim Carey is inside of a rhinoceros
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  Speaker 1: and the fan breaks and he has to come out
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  Speaker 1: the back end of this fake rhinoceros is what it was.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was like just like the predator met like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: just like something coming out of the ground. Like I
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  Speaker 1: was like, it was gross, but that's life, right, It's
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  Speaker 1: not all beautiful. My wife is convinced that I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to pass out during that portion of the event. If
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  Speaker 1: I see that your adrenaline is pumping, Oh man, I
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  Speaker 1: think I want to stay top side. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: if you can. If you can gut a deer without
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  Speaker 1: passing out, then you can witness a birth. Al Right,
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  Speaker 1: well I can do that. I can't believe I just
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  Speaker 1: compared the two things. But don't you hear that she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't listen to this podcast anyway? No, definitely, Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: it's coming up just a few more weeks, more weeks,
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  Speaker 1: and that's happening. And that's It's kind of an interesting
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  Speaker 1: lens that I've been looking through this whole review of
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  Speaker 1: the past year through because I'm looking back at this
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  Speaker 1: and this is my last year and my last hunting
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  Speaker 1: season to my last adventure season pre baby. Um, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of looking at everything within this weird place,
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  Speaker 1: like I know things are going to change. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know exactly how they're going to change. I know there's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be all these crazy things happening. I don't really
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  Speaker 1: know how handle those or how they're going to impact
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  Speaker 1: all the other things I've got going on in my life.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I know they're going to change how much
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  Speaker 1: I care about those other things, but I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what that actually looks like and it feels like in
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  Speaker 1: real life. So I'm in this weird in between point
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  Speaker 1: right now that I'm just like, I just I'm just ready.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I'm just ready to get going with this
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  Speaker 1: because the in between stage, the unknown is killing me
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just ready to to dive in and figure
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  Speaker 1: things out and start moving forward um on on a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot of things. But baby baby is definitely a
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  Speaker 1: big part of that. So man, it's gonna be an
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  Speaker 1: interesting year. That's that is for certain. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: very different year, so absolutely, man, and it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: It might be interesting for people to have kids, but
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna lose Like the other forty percent of our
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  Speaker 1: audience that doesn't have kids would be so sick of
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  Speaker 1: us talking about babies. Dude. It's just that's part of life, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong. I mean, this can
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  Speaker 1: this this podcast has a great ton of a great
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  Speaker 1: amount of really really good content. And if you know
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  Speaker 1: you think that we talk about our kids too much,
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  Speaker 1: just wait till Mark has his kid. Man, We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about him a whole lot more. And as and
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  Speaker 1: as I start to get my kids deeper involved into hunting,
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  Speaker 1: you know, taking them out and actually getting them to
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  Speaker 1: experience because my daughter is going to be that age
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  Speaker 1: this upcoming season, you know, we're gonna be talking about
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  Speaker 1: kids more. I can't talk about what I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I talk I know my family, and that's
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  Speaker 1: that's when I talk about Yeah, man, And I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think people hopefully, um, that will be
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  Speaker 1: something that people can foul along with. And I think
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  Speaker 1: everyone will be going through different stages that Like everyone,
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  Speaker 1: we all go through different phases in our lives, right
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  Speaker 1: And there are listeners probably that are ahead of us,
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  Speaker 1: and their listeners that are behind us. And there are
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  Speaker 1: listeners that are maybe right on the same part of
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  Speaker 1: the timeline as we are, that can kind of follow
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  Speaker 1: along from their own perspective. Um. And so either you'll
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  Speaker 1: get to learn something about what to expect, you'll be
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  Speaker 1: able to relate to someone who's dealing something but that
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  Speaker 1: you're dealing with right now, or maybe you can look
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  Speaker 1: back on something you used to have to deal with
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  Speaker 1: and either laugh at us or or enjoy it. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what, but man, it'll be interesting. So baby, baby,
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  Speaker 1: just countdown. We'll be starting here very soon. It could
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  Speaker 1: be anytime now really, um, but probably you know, two
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  Speaker 1: or three more weeks. But she thirty seven weeks six okay, Um,
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  Speaker 1: but she just seems like, I don't know. We we
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  Speaker 1: just have this idea and I think I've said this before.
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  Speaker 1: We just had this feeling that it's going to come early. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And she is just big and uncomfortable and just ready
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  Speaker 1: to be done with it. So has she has? She said,
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  Speaker 1: look at you with all sorts of seriousness, looked at
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  Speaker 1: you straight in the eyes, and told you to go
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  Speaker 1: f yourself. Yet in so many words, yeah, she like,
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  Speaker 1: you did this to me right right? Well, when let
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  Speaker 1: me know, when she looks you dead in the eyes
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  Speaker 1: and she uses those exact words, then you know she's
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  Speaker 1: had enough. Now what's happening? Yeah? Yeah, so hashtag dead life? Right? Um?
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  Speaker 1: Anything else interesting in your world? Otherwise? Outside of that, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about dear. Before we do that,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: the let's take a quick second to hear our sick
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  Speaker 1: story of the day. For this week's Sitka story, we're
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  Speaker 1: joined by Don v Dash, who tells us about an
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  Speaker 1: eye opening encounter he had in southeastern Kansas. Well Spencer,
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  Speaker 1: It's an interesting UH. The sickest stories have been intriguing
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  Speaker 1: to me. I have a follower podcast and and I've
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  Speaker 1: had a couple UH defining moments in UH in my
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  Speaker 1: own career, and one really was an eye opener for me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm back in two thousand and fifteen. I had a
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  Speaker 1: particularly large book that I was after in Kansas, probably
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  Speaker 1: the biggest one I had ever chased, and had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of camera pictures of him, and UH, I was
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  Speaker 1: really waiting him out and got down to Kansas, just
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  Speaker 1: done a great cold front in November and got into
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  Speaker 1: where I thought he would be and share enough, around
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  Speaker 1: thirty am, he comes walking in UH into the field
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was sitting in with a few dos
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  Speaker 1: and UH, I snort wheezed at him, just trying to
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  Speaker 1: get aggressive, and he took one look over at me
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  Speaker 1: and just came charging in like a ball. UH stopped
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  Speaker 1: staring at me head on at ten yards eyeball to eyeballs.
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  Speaker 1: Is one of those moments where you know your camouflage
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  Speaker 1: really gets tested. And and right about then he looked
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  Speaker 1: away and took one step and and that that was
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  Speaker 1: one of his last and for me, that was really
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  Speaker 1: one of those moments where you wonder, you know, how
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  Speaker 1: things are working, and and I had the wind in
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  Speaker 1: my face and I just knew at that time that, um,
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  Speaker 1: the camouflage was working for me. Uh. You know, as hunters,
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  Speaker 1: I think we always have questions, you know, is my
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  Speaker 1: whin good? Is is my is my setup good? Is
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  Speaker 1: is my equipment solid? And in that moment, I knew
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  Speaker 1: that all that was clicking on Dawn's hunt, which was
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: a bitterly cold sit He was wearing Sitka's phonetic system.
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  Speaker 1: Dear and talk about all right game. I think I
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  Speaker 1: think there's a lot to talk about because we've kind
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  Speaker 1: of throughout the year, we've kind of talked about things
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  Speaker 1: as they have been happening, but we never have done
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  Speaker 1: a real serious kind of analysis of the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot to talk about here. Um,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't really know what the right way to
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  Speaker 1: go about it is. I mean, we could go through
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  Speaker 1: we go through and talk through our seasons individually from
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  Speaker 1: beginning to end in a couple of high level things,
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  Speaker 1: or we could talk through and kind of break them
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  Speaker 1: down by portion. Um. I don't know. I mean, how
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  Speaker 1: much how much do you have? Dan? Is there a
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  Speaker 1: lot that you came out of this season having learned
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  Speaker 1: or having felt good about or having wanted to change
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  Speaker 1: or do you feel like this is one of those
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  Speaker 1: years that kind of flew by and you don't know
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  Speaker 1: what she took from it yet? I mean, where are
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  Speaker 1: you from. I think that you're missing something if you
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  Speaker 1: can't take away some things that you would do differently
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  Speaker 1: on a hunting season, right. I mean, that's the way
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  Speaker 1: I look at it. There's always something that I feel
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  Speaker 1: I could do different, um, in order to uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: have a different outcome. You know, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: change the outcome, but next year, I don't want the
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  Speaker 1: same outcome, you know what I mean. So there's always
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  Speaker 1: there's always some kind of change that you can make
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  Speaker 1: to have that quote unquote perfect season that doesn't exist,
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  Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Okay, So before the season, if
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  Speaker 1: we were talking in September on a scale of one
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  Speaker 1: to ten and being the best. How would you rate
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  Speaker 1: your expectations for the season coming into it? Well, based
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  Speaker 1: off trail cameras and information. Man, I'll tell you what
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  Speaker 1: the farm, Like I said, the farm that I do
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: most of my hunting on was absolutely loaded, and I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: was just I was very happy with the amount of
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: mature deer that were on the property. So I had
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: really good expectations going into into that season. This up
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: this season, so one through ten. I'm gonna say eight
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: to nine to be honest with you. And then now
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the season is pretty much done. How would you look
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: back at the season and say this season went as
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: far as meeting those expectations or goals you had. Well,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I tell you what, um, I walked away from and
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: we've talked about this before. We I walked away from
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: this season with h harvest. And you know, just to
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: recap that, you know how that hunt played out where
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: that harvest, you know, it was really thick, it was
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: really nasty. Um. I I thought the buck that was
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: coming through was mature. I had a very short window
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: to harvest him. I shot him. And then as I
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: got down and walked up to this buck, it wasn't
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the buck that I thought he was when I you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: when I was in the tree, and you know, I'm
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: not disappointed in it, and I think it would be
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: unfair to the animal if I said, oh, man, I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: wish I never would have shot that buck, because you know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: if I could do it over again, yeah, I probably
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: would have passed him. But I you don't have Sometimes
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: you don't have the opportunity to do those things. So
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I did what I thought was right at the time,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: and I was very happy with the end result. I mean,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: it was a it's a great buck. It was immature.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: It was not mature. Uh, And that's something that I
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: need to do a better job at this upcoming year.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: That's one of the takeaways is to make sure I
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: identify some characteristics of these dear differently. And I think
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I got into this little moment there where I was
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: like blackout kill mode instead of saying, mmm, I'm okay
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: with eating my tag, you know, like, because there's that
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: there's that there's that fine line, right, So do you
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: think it was And it sounds like I think that's
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: what you just said, But are you saying that you
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: think you need to get better at learning to identify
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the characteristics of a mature, dear, so you are more
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: accurate in your aging or is it more so getting
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: your head right in the moment so you actually pay
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: attention to the things you know versus blackout kill mode.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I think it was it's this the ladder of the
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: two UM, because although I say I had a very
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: short period of time, you know what what keeps you
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: or what makes you better, is to be able to
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: make those decisions in shorter time periods. And I, instead
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: of taking that extra half second two seconds two observe,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I went into that kill mode. Right. So I think
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that next year, if the same type of scenario UM
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: presents itself, I instead of you know, turning that that
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: switch on saying kill not kill, I will probably leave
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: it at not kill as opposed to kill and and
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: you know, unless it's overwhelming, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I got a friend UM who has dealt with a
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: challenge similar to that, but he has the opposite side
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: where he goes into it. He's become so picky and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: so like UM focused on that. Well, I don't know
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: if it's he. He has the same issue where he
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: will him and Hall and him and haunt and him
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: and Hall over a buck for such a long period
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: of time that then he doesn't get himself in the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: right mind mindset to make a good kill. So he's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: had a couple of examples where he's been hemming and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: haun and thinking and going back and forth on a
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: buck too many times, and then you know, ends up
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: not getting a great shot or rushing the shot, or
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: something along along those lines. So his one of the
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: more recent things I remember him saying to me about
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: this was that kind of like you just said, he
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: now believes that either it's an instant yes, or it's
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: If it's not an instant yes, then it's a no.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to shoot something that I don't instantly know. Obviously,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: this is a mature buck I want to shoot if
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: it's one of those, and maybe's I shouldn't even sit
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: in him and haunt about it. Just it's a no then,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: right right. And I'll tell you what I think. And
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and this is going to tie into I think your
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: season and putting all your eggs in one basket for
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: a particular buck. I did that for several years, chasing
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: one particular or buck, and I ate my tag several
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: years um out of the last ten you know, going
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: for a one particular buck and to a higher age class,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: a very high standard age class. And I think that
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: has faded away over the last let me, let me
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: just say, uh, five years maybe and maybe five or
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: six years, and I think I'm kind of going back
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: to that get into a kill mode instead of identifying
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: maturity and shooting mature you know, like a mature animal
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: in those going back to that that light switch moment
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: kill pass, you know what I mean. So I need
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: to do a better job of identifying that. Yeah, I mean,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: it's definitely one of those things that's easier said than done.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's very easy to say from the computer
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: desk here or sitting there in the off season talking
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: with your buddies, Oh yeah, I know what a mature
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: buck looks like. I can make that decision easily in
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the woods. But when something like this shows up out
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: of nowhere, and you've got a few seconds to make
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: a decision, and you've been sitting in that tree for
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: ten straight hours, for day after day after day, or
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: whatever it might be, and you're cold and you're tired,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and you've been just dying to see a good mature buck,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden something comes through that gets
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: your heart pumping. I mean, it is very understandable that
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: you might get a little fired up and and get
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: sugar happy and and and I don't know, is there
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: is there something wrong with that? If you got excited
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: in a moment um by that deer you saw and
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: you were thrilled by that opportunity and you took that shot,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: was that necessarily the worst in the world. I don't know.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I understand. I mean, I understand what you're saying. And
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: it didn't it wasn't your goal, and that's something you
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: want to get better at. But I don't know if
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: it's um that goes back to the whole deeper slew
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: of questions than I guess about about our roles and
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: stuff going in the season. But yeah, I mean, you know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: some people say, some people say, you know, they say,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: one second mark in the chair. No, you gotta go
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: in the living room, Bubba, You're gonna be quiet. So
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Hashtag dad life right, So um, you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: some people say, you know, don't don't shoot a buck.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: You know, don't pass a buck that you would shoot
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: on the last day of the season. I don't know
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: if I like that idea. You know, if I have
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the time, I think my standards do change as a
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: season progresses. So if I was to say, you know,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you know, a certain caliber of deer comes through the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: timber and I pass it, but later on that that
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: caliber of deer becomes acceptable later on in the season,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you know what, I think, I'm okay with that. Yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I kind of tend to agree. For me too, I've
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: had that same thing happened myself. I don't stay what
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: people are saying. But at the same time, um that
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know your desire, My desires or hopes out
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: of a season do changes the year goes by, and
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: what would make me happiness season sometimes changes too. You know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, I go into a year,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm gonna hold out for a really
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: really old buck or one buck or a giant buck
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: or whatever it might be, because you know, you're naive
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and optimistic at that point and everything seems possible. Um.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: But then as you get to three months into it,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: then just the idea of you know, having some kind
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: of success or just putting me in the freezer, or
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: just killing a decent buck that might make you really happy,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: and what's wrong with that? You know? Right? Right? So
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: now I kind of want to ask that same question
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: to you because your your white Tail season got interesting
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: when holy Field showed up on camera again and remind
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: us all what that date was, so he would back
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: up on camera mid September two, so before the season started. Now,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: when you got that picture, how long did it take
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: for you to say it's holy Field or bust? That night?
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Basically when I decided that it was holy Field for sure. Um,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I started comparing pictures and as we talked
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: all year, and we talked to all of last year, right,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: holy Field was this deer that I've been trying to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: kill for now to two and a half years or
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: whatever it was. And yeah, if he if he made
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: it back, he was gonna be the one and he
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: was going to be what my whole season would revolve around.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And I went into the season, you know, knowing that
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and being okay with that. Um, but maybe naively I
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: thought it was gonna happen. I was there. I was
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: too confident that if he was there, I was going
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: to kill um. Despite challenges I've had doing that in
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the past, to a degree, Um. So I'll tell you, man,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I kind of agree with you there though. I mean,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: if you if you look at annual patterns. I had
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: a I had a really good conversation with a guy
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: yesterday actually about annual patterns. And if you were making
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: your decision based off of annual patterns, I would have
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: went into the season gunning for holy Field with a
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: very high level of certainty, you know what I mean? Yeah,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: And I mean as as much as you can be
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: confident in killing the mature buck in Michigan on essentially
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: forty acres of huntable ground. I mean, I had about
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: as good as circumstances coming to the seasons as you
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: could ask for, given the experiences I had seen the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: stare in the past. And um, in a lot of ways,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: it went about as good as I could ask for.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't go as as good as I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: could have asked for because I didn't kill him. Um,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: but a lot of things did go pretty darn close
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: to going well. Um, and you just don't. I've talked
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: to a lot of buddies, and here in Michigan, a
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: lot of the guys hunting in situations similar to this,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: and my situation with holy Field is just really unique
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: to this area. You just don't get many bucks that
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: make it to this age, and you don't get bucks
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: you get to see as often as I got to
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: see this here and have as many encounters and chances
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: at him. Um, there just aren't many mature bucks to
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: go around, especially not on a small property like this
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: with you know, just limited cover, etcetera, etcetera. So so
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I think, to one one way looking at things, I
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: should look at this season as I was really darn
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: lucky that I made a decision last winter, last late season.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I could kill him in
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: muzzletter season, but I think he can make it. If
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I don't kill him, it would be really awesome to
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: hunt him next year. That was the decision I made
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: in two thousand sixteen, and I knew that there was
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: a really good chance he might not make it till then.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: He could die over the course of the winter or
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: get hit by a car or something. But I got
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: really lucky and fortunate and he didn't. He made it
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: to the hunting season, and so I got what I wanted, right,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I got a chance to hunt him again. I got
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the chance for that excitement again. Um, the thrill of
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: chasing this deer. Um, I got that. So that is
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a win, I suppose. I mean that's a really that
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: was a positive thing to take from this season that
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I made a decision to pass a deer because it
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: wasn't about just putting antlers on the wall. It was
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: about extending this experience and having this experience in the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: way I wanted to have it, um, And I was
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: able to achieve that for the most part. So that
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: was pretty cool. Um. So I'm gonna just jump right
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: into it because I want to know. But from a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: strategy standpoint, this season, I mean, this deer was all
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: over the place. He made himself visible to you in
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: this this um certain amount of acreage that you have
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: access to. You know, you played cat and mouse with
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: him the entire season. You had uh several encounters with him.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: You had one mishap type of an encounter. With all
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: that aside, do you think that you did everything you
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: possibly could have done to put yourself into the best
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: possible position to to I guess, harvest this animal. No, Um,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I think I did a lot of things right. I did.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I almost did enough to kill him. Um. But there
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: were certainly still mistakes. So I've gone through and thought through,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: like all the different little things that maybe I've done wrong,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: um little mistakes. I've made things that could have done differently.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: So there definitely are things I picked out. I wish
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I had done this differently. I wish I'd done that differently.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: First and foremost, the very most obvious, and you can
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: look at this as a good thing. You can look
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: at this is a bad thing. On the good side,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I for the first time, um, for the first time
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: since two thousand fifteen, I was able to be in
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: shooting range, clear, easy, peasy shot at holy Field with
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: a bow on November seven. I had him at yards
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: and the wide open. I could have killed holy Field.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: So I put myself in the right place at the
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: right time without getting winded. I got in there the
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: right access, I picked the right place to be. So
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: those things were all good things that I can look
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: at and say, hey, that was good. Essentially did what
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I needed to do to kill that buck, except for
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the final most important thing, which was to be looking
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: up and see him come in and not be looking
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: at your cell phone. So that was a big, of course,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: the most obvious, glaring mistake of my entire season. Was
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I blew my opportunity at achieving my number one goal
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: because I was looking at my phone as he walked in.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't know he was there, and he saw me
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: when I did turn around to see him. So that
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: was the big one. Um. So let's let's expand that
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Did that affect you so much that
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: it's going to change your behavior in the tree stand
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: moving forward a little bit? Yes, yes it did. But
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm I'm not gonna lie to you
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: and say I'm never gonna look at my phone again. Um,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: that's just impossible, probably at least for me personally, I
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: don't have that kind of focus. But I've definitely since then,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I've gotten better at it. I've spent much less time
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: on the phone, and when I do look at the phone,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I'm much more paranoid now, so I look at the
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: phone for like two seconds, look up, two seconds, look up. Um.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: So I've definitely gotten better and more aware of that. Um.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: And definitely I think if this will be a great
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: kind of learning moment for me for the future when
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: it comes to all day sits um. Because one of
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: the good things I did this year is I hunted
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of all day sits. I think I put
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: in like fourteen or fifteen days where I hunted the
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: entire day. Um, And I'm proud of myself for that.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I was happy, Like that was the thing I can
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: look back in the season say, hey, you did a
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: good job on that market. That was something you said
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: you would do, and you stuck with it and you
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: toughed it out, even though a lot of those days
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: were miserable, long didn't see anything, etcetera, etcetera. But this
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: was one of the situations where you know, it almost
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: paid off. I was there at eleven o'clock in the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: afternoon and so was he. Um. So I just need
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: to now get better at staying focused during that time period. Um.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: It's really easy to not think you need to be
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: focused because of the time you're not seeing anything. But
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I did see a lot of midday activity this year,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: so more so than any other year probably. I was
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: just reminded of the fact that this isn't just something
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: that they tell you in the magazines or that Mark
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: preaches on the podcast all the time. They're actually some
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: truth to it. Um. So this is another good reminder
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: of me for me. Of that, I on the flip side, Um,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I think that there were a handful of other small things. Well,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: let's take a step back here, Dan, because I am
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: looking at this through a lens um that that you
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: are not looking through it yet, and that the listeners
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: aren't looking through it yet, And that is this thing.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I believe that holy Field is dead. You believe that
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: holy Field is dead. I think the hunt for holy
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Field is done. Okay, Wait a second, Yeah, we haven't.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I've not. I've not said this publicly yet, but I
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: think it's done. Okay. So the last time I thought
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I talked with you is that the gun season was
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: over and you had trail camera pictures of him. It
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: wasn't a trail Cara picture of him. It was a
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: sight a sighting my wife. My wife had seen him
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: in a field from the road. She does a wonderful
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: job of being an extra set of scouting eyes for
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: me in the evenings when I'm not around, She'll she'll
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: check this area out every once in a while because
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: it's close to home. And um, she told me she
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: saw him the evening of December one. I was in
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Ohio that night, Okay, And that was the day after
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: gun season. So at that point I was really excited
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: he made it through guns season. I thought that there
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: were very good chances then that the worst of the um,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the worst of the threats to him being killed by
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: someone else were done. Um. So when I got back
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: from Ohio, I waited a couple of days for this
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: cold front I was supposed to hit, and once that
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: cold front hit, I started hunting. Um. But from that
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: point on I did not get another sighting of him.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I did not get a trail camera picture of him. Um.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this in a past episode, but
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't get a trailer I've not had a picture
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: of him since October. So even though even though I
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: was seeing him November, the last time I personally saw
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: him was November. And then, you know, like I said,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: no pictures all through that time period. Then my wife
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: got a sighting of him on December one, and I
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: believe he made it through the gun season, but again
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: no pictures. Um. No sightings or pictures through December, and
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: then around Christmas give or take. Sometime around that, I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: don't remember exactly what it was uh. Um, I heard
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: a rumor of a neighbor having killed a big buck.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: And so I've been trying to confirm this. I've been
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: texting some other people in the area. UM, and this guy. UM.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Basically the from a friend of a friend said that
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: a neighbor, a guy from a neighboring property, killed a
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: big buck over here. UM. I don't know, I don't know,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything more. Really, I don't know where
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: this was. I don't know what this person would off
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: would call a big buck. UM, but it would kind
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: of make sense that this guy killed him with a
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: muzzleloader if we saw him December one, and let me
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: take a step back, UM, my wife also heard a
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: really loud muzzleloader shot on December two, UM, the day
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: after she saw this buck. After she saw holy Field
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: out in the wide open field. The next day, she
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: she heard a really loud gun shot. UM. And that
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: that doesn't happen that often. So it was somewhere nearby, um,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: right after she had seen holy Field moving in daylight.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: So between those two things and then finding out that
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the neighbor supposed to kill a big buck and this
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: neighbor hunts a property, the interesting thing about this situation,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: if anyone was gonna kill holy Field I would not
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: have thought it would have been this gentleman. Um, because
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: this guy just owns field edge. Um, he owns no cover.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: He just has a big field. I don't even know
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: if any of the trees are on his property at all.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: So and he I've only ever seen this guy go
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: out hunt like two or three times in the last
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: like six or seven years. I've been hunting this property,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Like he's never out there. I don't think he's a
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: very serious hunt at all. Um, I don't I don't
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: know him personally, I don't know the details. So this
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: is just assumptions I'm making, but based on observation from
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: a distance. And you know, when I've been out there
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: a couple of times, have seen this person or someone
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: out there. Um, this was not where I thought holy
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Field's threat was, especially since this year. Although then, like
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: back in the back of the property, holy Field was
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: not moving out in the open fields too much, especially
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: out by the roads. But long story short, this person
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: supposed we killed a big deer that coincided closely with
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: when we stopped getting sightings of him and when a
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: gunshot was heard in the area. Um, and I don't know,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I have no pictures of him, no sightings of him,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and just like that gut feeling that tells me he's
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: probably gone. Now I could be completely wrong, because like
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I said, I mean I saw him a bunch in November,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: but didn't get a single trailcra picture of him despite that,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: So he certainly has the ability to avoid my cameras.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: And on the other hand, in October I didn't see
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: him at all, but I did get trailcare pictures of him.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: He definitely changed his behavior a lot this season. Um.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: In the past two years, he was much more visible,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: he was much more on camera, he was much more active.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: This year, he he became like old Bucks do, and
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: he became much more of a hermit. He didn't move
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: at all, except for at least I didn't see him
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: moving during daylight at all, except for a fourteen went
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: day window from Halloween to November. That was the only
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: daylight setting as I got. I think I had ten
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: settings or eleven settings or something like that in that window,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and that was it the whole season. I didn't see
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: him way off from the distance like I've seen him
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: in the past. Um, So he could be alive and
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: he could be hold up in some little cranny or
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: some swamp or somewhere else where, you know, he can
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: just get get by and not have any pressure from humans.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: And this neighbor maybe just shot some other buck that
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't know about. But just the fact that I
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: had only seen holy Field, Holy Feel was the only
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: big buck I was getting on trail camera. He was
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: the only big buck I was seeing. Um. I mean,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: there was no other buck that I would qualify as
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: big that I even got pictures of the whole season.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: So I just I'm thinking, you know, if this guy
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: is saying to kill a big buck, I don't know
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: what other big bucket could be because there haven't been
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: any others. But at the same time, to you know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: ten days ago or whatever, I saw a random giant
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: on this property that I've never seen before, and he
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: just showed up. So it's not to say that there
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: couldn't be some random other deer in the area that
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: just never came out of the property. I can hunt.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: But this guy, this guy killed. Um. I talked to
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: another neighbor today about this very issue, you know, talking
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: about what I think maybe what happened, and this guy
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: said that he saw like three or four different pretty
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: respectable big Bucks over on his side, UM, that I
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: never saw at all. And um, and that's not that
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: far away. So so I'm making assumptions. I'm maybe I'm
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: being too negative on this. I have not gotten confirmation.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I've stopped by this person's house, UM, trying to trying
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: to ask him if you know, he'll share me a picture,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you know, chatting with me about what happened, just because
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I'm curious to get confirmation on this, and he hasn't
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: been home, so I'm hoping to get some kind of
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: confirmation soon. Just hasn't happened yet. Um. But so I'm
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: looking through all of these things related to holy Field
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: and the decisions I made, the good things and the
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: bad things. I'm looking at them through the lens of
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: it being done right, um, which which I thought was
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: worth pointing out. So I I'm going to reflect back
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: on the buck I was chasing shipwreck, right, you know
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: that story. But at the end of every season, I
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: would make the assumption that I was never going to
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: see him again until I got confirmation that he didn't
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: you know, he didn't show up on trail cameras or
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't see him from the tree stand I mean,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: but I didn't allow that buck necessarily to dictate what
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I was going to do if I, you know, if
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't have conversations confirmation that he was alive or not.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: So you don't know the You don't know whether or
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: not he's dead. You have a gut fee thinking he's dead.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: How are you going to approach this upcoming season? Are
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you assuming? Are I mean, I guess are you? I
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: know you're assuming he's dead? But are you going to
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: let it dictate what you're doing from here on out
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: for say, maybe upcoming season with no verification? So so,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: first and foremost, I am going to try to get
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: confirmation at least from this guy to try to figure
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: out what buck he did shoot, so at least I
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: can have that question answer. I'm going to try to
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: talk to this person figure that out at least um.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: But otherwise I think that, yes, I'm gonna go into
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: the season assuming he's dead unless I see him or
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: get a picture of him. Even if this guy says, oh, no,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't shoot a big buck, or here's the picture
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: and it's some other deer. Um. Even if that's the case,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I'm still going to go into the season assuming he's dead,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: hoping for the best, but assuming he's probably gone. Um
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: but I will be taking the things I learned from
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: this past season applying them to next year. And um
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: you know, still going to be using that all that
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: the things that picked up from holy Field to to
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the next year, to the next opportunity. UM. So there's
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: no shorge of things. I definitely learned a lot from
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: this deer, this deer and this hunt over the past
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: two even three years if you count the first year
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: when I was passing him, um man, a wealth of information.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: It pushed me to try to understand things to a
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: level of detail that I never had before. Um. And
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I can look at so many little things that I
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: did this year, both good and bad, that I think
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: just just thinking through these things is making me a
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: better hunter. So so let me let me tell, let
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: me do this. I went through and try to look
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: at all the hunts that I made throughout the season
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: on this property, and I'm able to pick out all
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: these little, tiny things now that I think I could
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: have done better than in the past. There would have
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: been like dozens of things I did wrong, probably, but
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: every year I've been taking a little bit paying a
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: little more attention to detail, fixing up, you know, two
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: of four issues this year, and then one more out
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: of the four issues the next year. And now I'm
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: getting to the point where now it's these little things. Um.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: But I can look back and say, well, I sure,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that that thing I learned last year, I
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: did act on it, and man, look at the result.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I almost killed holy Field in that spot because I thought,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: from what I saw last year, I should have a
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: stand here or different things on those lines. Um. So
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: one thing that I learned from last year that one
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: of the big things that last year I said, or
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: even this, you know this past spring and winter when
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: we were talking about one are the things that I'm
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: going to do differently in two thousand and seventeen. One
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: of the big mistakes I thought I made in two
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: thousand sixteen was that I got the confirmation of holy
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Field was alive in two thousand and sixteen, and I
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: was gonna wait to try to hunt him sparingly in
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: October except for cold fronts um, because I thought I
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: had a good set set up. But then I hunted
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: that first day and then I was like the next
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: day looked pretty since so I hunt it again, and
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: then like six days later we had another coal front coming.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm gonna hunt this cold front
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: now and I take advantage. So I hunted that day
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: and the next day I didn't see him, and I
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna stay out. And then seven days
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: later we had another little front come through and I
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: got a picture of him on the other side of
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the propertis that, well, maybe I need to hunt now.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: So I tried. So I kept him, having all these
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: little reasons that maybe now is the time of strike.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Now was the time of strike. Now was the time
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: of strike. And it resulted me over hunting a portion
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: of this property. Um a lot. I hunted a bunch
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: more than I thought I should have, probably, and maybe
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: that impacted my ability to kill him. In two thousand
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: and sixteen, before gun season, um I did see him
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: a bunch, but it couldn't get him within range except
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: for one night I had him at forty yards, but
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: it was a little too dark. You guys know that story. Um.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: So in two thousand seventeen, my plan was to hunt
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: the first night and then unless there's just some very
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: very very obvious, glaring need to get in there and
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: hunt him like I saw him in daylight at this spot.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to go in there at all until
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: the annual pattern I identified dictates that he should start
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: moving daylight again. So, just to recap very briefly, in
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen, the first daylight setting ahead of him
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: was on October. In two thousands sixteen, the first daylight
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: setting ahead of him was October. Both of those were
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: from the same stand in the same food plot, and
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I had a shot opportunity to him on both of
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: those occasions. So my thought process was in two seventeen,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hunt him until October, assuming conditions are right. UM.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: And that's what I did. So I'm proud of myself
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: and the fact that I stayed out and maintained patients.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't go into this proper at all except for
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the opening night for three weeks UM. So I think
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: that was probably a good thing because he wasn't moving daylight.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I wasn't getting daylight trial camera pictures of him anywhere, UM,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: no long distance scouting observations. So I stayed out. I
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: was good. Now here's a mistake I made. October comes along.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: This is the pre pre prescribed date when I'm supposed
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: to start hunting him. I've been looking forward to this
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: day all season. I was like, all right, this is
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: when you should start moving. I gotta get out there.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I was so excited for the for weeks I was
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: looking forward to this, saying, all right, that's the day.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: That's the day, that's the day. And then I saw
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: this cold front coming up that was going to coincide
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: with that. I thought, all right, this is gonna be it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill him. October shows up. The cold front
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: was hitting, but not what I wanted. The wind was
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: way higher than I thought it was going to be.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: It looked like it was gonna be you know, mile
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: on our winds um higher than you're typically gonna see
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of deer activity in this area with those
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: kinds of conditions. But I was so kind of set
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: in my mind that I gotta be hunting in this day,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: like I've been just dying to get out and hunt.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I wanted to do it so badly that I convinced myself.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I kept looking at the weather. Looking at the weather,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, maybe it's gonna die down below twenty
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: and if it's in like the teens, it'll be okay.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: So I decided to go for it because I thought
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: the wind was going to die down. I didn't think
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: it'd be quite so bad the cold temperatures. I convinced
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: myself of this basically just because like in my gut,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to go. I was just so excited
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: to go. Convinced myself to go out there. I got
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: into my tree and it was way worse than even
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: the forecast was was calling for. It was like thirty
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: winds and then the winds were swirling and it was
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: just insane. And instantly got into the tree and I'm like,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: this is a disaster. I should have never come out here.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: So that was a mistake I made because I was
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: just over anxious. I was so set in my plan
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: that I had made. Um I've been patient for so long.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: But then because I had put this date on the calendar,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I wasn't able to look at it through clear eyes
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: and say, no, it's not worth pushing it. What's what's
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: waiting one more day? You can wait one more day.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: But I didn't. I went in there, and who knows,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: maybe he was in that area where the wind was
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: swirling he winded me. And the first time I went
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: in in three and a half weeks, and that screwed
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: up the next seven to ten days. I don't know,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: but that's possible. So there's a there's a mistake I made.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Now on the bright side, something I did right was
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: that I got in that tree. I realized this is
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: a disaster. This is even worse than I thought I
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: was gonna be, and I made the tough decision to
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: pull the plug. So immediately, within like five minutes, I
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: tore everything down and snuck right back out. Um So
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't make the problem worse. Um So there was
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: a mistake there, But then there was a tiny positive
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: decision to nor The next day, similar kind of scenario
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: pops up. Now it's October. The year before, I had
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: a shot at Holy Field at forty yards. I didn't
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: take it. Um. Then, now this cold front has hit,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: the wind speeds have died down. This is gonna be
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: the night. This is gonna be a great night. Um
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Now I'm finally gonna get that chance at him. But
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: with the wind direction we had, it was a little bit.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: It was it was straight west, if I remember right,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: And to hunt the spot where I had gotten these
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: shots at Holy Field the past. I really want a
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: northwest to know a wind. Um, So I've got This
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: is a food little food plot system We've talked about
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: a lot in the past. There's a box blind on
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: the south side of it, and then there's a tree
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: stand kind of in the middle of the food plot complex.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: I thought, okay, even though to do west wind, I
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: can hunt the box blind with that, do west wind
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: and be okay. So I go and hunt the box blind.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: And as I told the story earlier this year, I
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: got into the blind, opened the door and it was
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: loaded with bees, and so I got sworn by bees
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: and I ran down out of the blind, and I realized, well,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: what the heck am I going to do? I can't
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: hunt the box blind now. UM. So what I ended
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: up doing. I was so convinced that I had to
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: be hunting, and I was so excited to finally be
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: hunting that I made another potential mistake. I went and
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I said, well, I gotta hunt this food plot complex
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: because this is the spot to be UM. So I
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: hunted that tree stand that was in the middle of
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: the of the system there, and even though I had
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: to do west wind, which cuts into a portion of
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: the cover, and I said, screw it. I gotta swing
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: for the fences. I've been waiting three and a half weeks.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: All the other conditions are right, this is the right place,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: this is the right time, based on annual patterns of
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: the right conditions. Um, sometimes you gotta take a risk.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: So I went in there and hunted it because my
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: first option in the blind didn't work. And I sat
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: in there with my wind blowing into a substantial section
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: of cover that holy Field might have been coming from.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: It wasn't It wasn't the worst. Like if you imagine
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty degrees, Like if you're looking at
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: a pie and you put a line going from twelve
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: to six right down the middle of that pie. On
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: the left side of the pie is the food plot
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: system and cover in a little finger of timber. On
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: the right side of the pie is this big stretch
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: of cover where holy Field, I assumed where he was betting.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Most of the time. I was blowing my wind into
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: about a third of it. So a third of that
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: pine now was screwed. Um, So I was just hoping, well,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: hopefully it wasn't. In the bottom third hopefully he's in
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: the top two thirds. Um. Usually I'd like to try
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: to not blow into that at all, or just blow
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: into the bottom eighth of it. This time I didn't.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: And maybe that was a mistake. Maybe he was in
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: there and he winded me. And again, maybe that was
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: the time I screwed things up. Um. I don't know. Uh,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: that was a that was a bad decision. Possibly. On
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: the other hand, if he came from the northwest section
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: there and I was sitting there and I swung for
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the fences, it might have worked out. But you just
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: never know. I mean you can. I could do this
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: all day, right, I could second guess all my decisions,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. I
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: don't know how much is too much. I don't know
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: how much is healthy. Um. But that was another example
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: of like a small thing I observed that maybe I
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: screwed up. Um. Do you think you over analyze? Oh
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: my god, check yeah. But I mean listen to me.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I've just gone through this and I'm picking apart every
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: little thing. I think that there's I think who knows, right,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: this is me saying this, and I could be completely nuts.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I think there's value in the process. So I think
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: there's value in analyzing these things afterwards to at least
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: think about them, to like, look at, Okay, why did
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I make this decision? What were the things that you
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: know we're influencing making me making that decision, um, And
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: then just like reflecting on that, and I think that
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: will help me make better decisions in the future. I
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: do think there's value there, um. But at the same time,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I do know that during the season I over analyzed
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: some things to a point where, um, there can be
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: paralysis by analysis or I'll get overwhelmed by trying to
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: make the right decisions. I put a lot of pressure
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: on myself to make the right decisions. UM. So that's
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: been a big takeaway from me out of the two
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: thousand seventeen season is again just to like the pressure
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I put on myself and the stress that I let
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: myself get from some of these things because I'm so um,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I am. I am obsessive, Like I am admittedly obsessive
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: when it comes to goals and achievements and tasks, Like
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I can get really really serious about things, um. And
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: that can be a good thing to a degree because
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: it has allowed me to achieve my goals in many
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: cases and allows me to do things that I have
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: wanted to do, but sometimes it definitely leads to um,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: it leads to challenges to right well, I think now
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: we'll make for a good time to take a quick break.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Here for word from our partners at White Tailed Properties.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: This week with white Tail Properties, we are joined by
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Tony Hansen, a land specialist out of Michigan, and Tony
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: is gonna be telling us about how hunting strategy changes
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: in pressured states like Michigan. I'd say the biggest difference
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: is that just the availability the number of older deer
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: is much much lower, so you don't have, you know,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: a bunch of them to pick from, So you've got
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: to be pretty cure that you do have to hunt.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: And you know, for me, it's it's all about trying
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: to manage the girl that I've got so that I
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: do have that age structure because it's it's probably not
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: going to be there on the neighbors. If you'd like
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: to learn more and to see the properties that Tony
• 56:20
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• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Backslash Hanson that's H A N S E N. You
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: know along that same kind of thought process. This year,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: I did something a little bit different. And yeah, I
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: looked at maps at when I was at home or
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: you know, before the hunt, but I didn't make a
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: decision on what stand I was going to hunt until
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I pulled onto the farm because I felt like I
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: was doing the same thing that you were, and that
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: was over analyzing and having some kind of you're wasting
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: time at that point, You're you're not functioning at your
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: most efficient. And I think that what that time constraint
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: does is now you're on the farm and it's time
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: to make a decision or you're gonna get to your
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: stand late. So I think that helped me choose the
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: right stands, you know, and and put myself into a
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: position where I know this stands good. I know this
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: area is good because the wind direction, the terrain, all
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: that stuff. I have either pictures or they're signed there.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I just need to go do it. Yeah, I think
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: that there's something to that. Um. I don't know if
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: you have this struggle at all, But for me, one
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: thing I've noticed that I do this kind of applies
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: to life in general too. But when I make a decision,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: so in this case, like choosing a stand site. So
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I'll be looking at the weather, you know, all the all.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Let's say I'm trying to choose where I want to
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: hunt the next morning. We'll say, um, the night before,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the weather over and over again, checking that,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: thinking through what I want to do, and I try
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: to make a decision usually the night before, so based
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: on the weather, based on the wind direction, all the
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: things I know, or I think I know. I said, Okay,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I think tomorrow and hunt this stand the next day.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I have a really hard time taking in any new
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: information to change that decision. So if I arrive at
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: the property and then all of a sudden, I'm walking
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: out to the property and all of a sudden the
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: wind isn't exactly what the forecast said it was, but
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: my mind was already made up on I'm going to
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: stand X, I have a really hard time not wanting
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: to stick to that decision. Like if if I've decided
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: to hunt stand X, it's hard for me to adjust
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: at the last minute and switch it up, Like I'm
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: already so convinced of that that I'm like, uh, I
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: gotta stick with that. And sometimes maybe that's a mistake. Too.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: So there's something to be said about waiting to make
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: some of those decisions until you have the very most
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: recent information, and then you kind of allow your gut
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: to make the decision a little bit more to UM
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: versus getting so UM wound up in the details of
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: all the other factors. UM. That's something that I don't
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: know if that's an issue I've had in the past.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I think I've done a pretty good job over the
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: years of getting better and better at choosing the right
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: places to be UM. And I think for the most case, UM,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I've seen the results of that. But I definitely have
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: a tendency to second guest myself. There's no doubt about
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: that too. I did a lot less of that. I
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: think that's one maybe maybe that could even be a
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: takeaway from this season is I did a lot less
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: second guessing myself. You know, if I if I felt
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: an area was maybe burn getting burnt out. UM, that's
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: actually what led me to go into this new piece
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: of property and on night one and harvest the buck
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: that I harvested this year. Because everything that I wanted
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: to you know that I said this is good location
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: to be, it wasn't there at that particular time. So
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: I decided to go to a completely different area and
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: that worked. So I feel that maybe as a positive
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: for me, I did a lot less second guessing myself
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: this year. That's a I think it's a good sign, right,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: That's a sign of confidence, if nothing else. And I man,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: confidence I think is so important, um, when it comes
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: to just your mindset out there in the woods. If
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: you have confidence in something, I think you're just in
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: a better position as far as being there mentally. And
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: if you're not there mentally, you make mistakes like missing
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: a deer walking by you twenty yards. Um, So that's
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I think that's clutch. I think that's huge. So speaking
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: of your shift to a new property, that is one
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: of the things that I am happy that I did. Um,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: not switching to a new property, but I think I
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: did a better job this year of switching things up finally,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: like I did switch things up off my original game plan,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: um mid run. So I came into you know, as
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: we talked earlier that oct October two, I thought I
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: was going to kill him between and the thirty one,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I thought that last week in October was when I
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: was going to happen. And I had this whole game
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: plan like these properties food. They're sort of the stands
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: I had up by these food sources that I thought
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I could kill him on. And that just didn't happen.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: I wasn't seeing him anywhere. It wasn't getting daily pictures
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: of him anywhere. Um. But I in the past years,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I had always thought I had to hunt near the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: front of this property because this betting area where I
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: had always seen him in the past was up there. Well,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: when things weren't going right, I decided to switch things
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: up and try a different part of the property that
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I in the past never hunted for him because I
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: never got pictures of him down there. I never saw
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: him it all down there. Um But I switched it up,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: and I said, all right, I'm just gonna start doing
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: crazy things I've never done before because what I have
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: been trying isn't working. And when I started doing those
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: different things, then I started seeing him. I started I
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: started doing a bunch of different running gun sets. I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: hunted a new stand almost every day, so I wasn't
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: hunting the same stands over and over. I was bouncing
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: from place to place to place. Um And that at
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: least gave me, got me to the wheelhouse with him.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: I did see him. I had the shot opportunity of
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: one day. The next day, you know, three or four
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: days later, I had him within range, but there was
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: covering the way. Um So that was a positive that
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: I was proud of myself for doing, which was something
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: you know, it's always tough to do when you have
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: a bunch of pre hung sets. It's really easy to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: want to just hunt hunt those pre hung sets. Um
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: But I told myself that, no, you're not going to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: make excuses. You're not gonna take the easy way. So
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: I was getting up way away before daylight, HI, getting
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: these places and hanging and stand in the dark, like
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: three thirty or four in the morning, so I could
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: be hunting a new set in a new spot. And
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: that was a pain in the butt and didn't end up.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't end up killing him with that, But I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: do think that was a good thing. I think being
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: willing to switch. And then we talked about that a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: lot in the past. Um So that was a positive.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I want to elaborate on that a second. I had
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: this thought go through my brain. Oh man, probably the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: like the first two days, I I decided to hunt.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: You know, I started hunting this year, and that was
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: do I do I get a benefit from hanging my
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: stands so early and not doing running guns on these farms.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: I think there's a small benefit, but I almost I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: had this thought where where I said, you know, is
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: are these pre hung stands similar to what you said
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: subconsciously influencing me that I need to be in one
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: of those and not making a macro adjustment at the
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: moment that I need to be making a decision right
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: because the wind could you know, the weather chain says
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: north wind, but you get into your spot and it
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: could be north northeast or north northwest and it's just
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: a little bit different and that may influence you to
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: set up on you know, five yards different tier, five
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: yards difference there, and cause you're you know, you're sent
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: downstream to do something completely completely different. So I was
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: thinking to myself, Man, should I should I be prepping
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: like and hanging some of these early season stands that
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: kind of I don't I don't know what what how
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: how to say it, but I think it's somehow influencing
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: me to be satisfied with less than perfect stand location. Yeah,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: they're kind of a crutch. Like you said, if if
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: you know you want to be in a certain area
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: and you already have a stand there, you're gonna nine
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: times that tend you're gonna hunt that stand because you
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: already have it there, even if, like you said, really
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: it might be better to be ten yards further over.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: If you had to hang a news stand, you put
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: it in the perfect place. But since there's already one
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: there might as well just sitting that one. Now, agree
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: that you're saying. On the flip side, though, which which
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: one of these things is more important? Is what you
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: just said more important? Being in the right spot, the
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: exact right spot? Is that most important? Or is it
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: more important to be able to sneak into a spot
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: and very quietly go right up in the tree without
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: making an impact and be hunting right away versus the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: potential of cutting down limbs or banging your tree stand
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: against metal step or something like that. So like the
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: chance of spooking deer while setting up that tree stand,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: So which is which is more beneficial? I don't know,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: that's a tough question, man. Yeah, you know how many
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: times have you had a deer five yards out of
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: range that you wanted to shoot, you know what I mean,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Just like it plays, it can. It's one of those
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: things where it can it can really screw up your
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: thought process if you make a decision and that decision
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: is wrong, as opposed to making a decision in that
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: and then that decision is right. You know. Yeah. I
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: think I think we've mentioned like this that fooled by
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: randomness concept where something happens once and then you take
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: that to be like an indicator of a rule sort of.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: So if this one thing happened this one time, you think, Okay,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: that's the way things are. But it could have just
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: been a random thing to happen. And that's that's, you know,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: a risk of what we're doing right here really to
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: to a degree, especially what I do when I hyper
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: analyze things. Um, sometimes ship just happens. Yeah, Sometimes there's
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: things that are just out of your control, or bad
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: luck happens or um, things don't go your way and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: you can't control. We can't control a whole heck of
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: a lot when it comes to deer hunting. Um. So
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: I think one of the big lessons I can take
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: from that this year is to give myself for that,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: like to be okay with that to know that there's
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff I can't control. Mistakes are going
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: to happen. You're not gonna get it all right, and
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: that's okay. Like I'm really hard on myself, um, like
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I would, I really like as I think maybe if
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: you listen to me as I'm talking through all this,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I can be really nitpicky about this thing or that thing,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: and I do that to myself in my head like
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: all day, um when I'm thinking about you know, the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: hunting season really anything but um, but I think this
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: season helped me. Or I'm trying to look at this
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: season and use it as a lesson to say, you
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: know what, there's only so much you can do. It's
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: good to pay attention to the details. It's good to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: try to keep improving. Um. I'm gonna keep on trying
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: to do that. But sometimes you also need to understand
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: that you can't control at all and you need to
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: learn to um, accept that, embrace it, um and and
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: not beat yourself up too much as well. Oh man,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: I wish I could agree with you there. I think
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I think I think you can control a majority of
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: it if you learn from your mistakes. Right now, the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: rut brings a whole different kind of randomness to that.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: But I feel that you can do a if given
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: multiple opportunities, you can control a scenario so well that
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: you that you can win, like your your percentage of
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: winning goes up, I mean, on a on a completely
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: different scale than what we're used to. Take a look
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: at the druries right in the Lakaskis. They set up
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: their farms to put themselves in a in a scenario
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: where they have the highest percentage of winning, right, And
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: I think that if given certain circumstances, you can control
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: that way more than what you think. I think it's
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: it's a relative thing, right, So I'm not arguing that
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: you can't control more. You can always control more. And
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: I mean that's a huge portion of like my whole
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: mindset when it comes to deer hunting is controlling as
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: many different little tiny variables as you possibly can agree
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: with that, And so yeah, the juries, the Lakowsky's, they
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: to a tremendous degree control a ton of variables and
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: that's a huge part of what does make them successful.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: I agree. Um, I'm just saying you can't control everything.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: And Mark Jury still has things happen that he doesn't
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: want to have happened. Yes, he kills lots of big deer,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: but there are still mistakes that get made, or there
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: are still things that happen that piss him off and
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: the hunt gets screwed up a deer does the wrong thing,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: or coyote runs in, or his blind falls over, or
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: a step falls out of the tree. Like things happen. Um.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: So I'm simply saying, do as much as you possibly can,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: push yourself more and more every single year, to learn more,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: to improve more, to pay attention to the details. But
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: when something does go wrong, and this is maybe this
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: is just for me, because this is something I just
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: have I struggle with. I'm just saying, when something goes wrong,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: identify it, learned from it. But then don't beat yourself up, Like,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: don't hate yourself because that thing went wrong for me,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I need to be able to identify it, learn from it,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: and be okay moving forward from that, and not identify it,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: learn from it and then be pissed at yourself because
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: this thing went wrong and you're such a shitty deer
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: hunter because of it, Mark, and your season got ruined
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: because of this Mark, and you're never gonna kill holy
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Field blah blah bla blah blah blah blah. Yes, So
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: so this has been my Um, this has been me
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: just having to work on that that portion of it. Yeah, um,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: because and we talked about this a lot too. But
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: as much as killing a deer is what we strive
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: to do and we have our goals, and I think
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: it's great to have goals, and it's great to work
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: towards difficult things. And that's a big part of why
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: I love deer hunting and hunting mature bucks. But you're all,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: we're also doing this because it's fun, right, We're trying
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: to have a good time. We're we're trying to do
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: all those things and if if and then every single
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: year I say the same thing. So if you've been
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: following the word Time podcast, you realize that I'm maybe
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: not doing a good job of learning this because every
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: year I have the same UM challenge is that I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: need to continue to get better at like being happy
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: in the moment and like not overstressing about these things. Um.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: And so that's something that I think I'll probably just
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: continue to be working on my whole life, because like,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe a good thing about me is that I
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: take things really seriously and I work really really hard
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: and I want to achieve big things, um, but sometimes
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: that can be a detriment to UM. So that's that's
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: a constant balancing act that I'm trying to get better
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: at every year, right. And it just sucks because guys
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: like me and you are in a position of trying
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: to explain things right to people the listener, right when
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: there are certain things that you just can't explain, Like
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I wish I could sit here and
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: tell you that, you know, I have these certain goals
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: and I have you know that all these listeners, you know,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: the listeners out there need to do this and need
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: to do that. But at the end of the day,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: I think the most important thing is to just do
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: you do what you want to do and and not
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: worry about what others are thinking. Not worry about you know,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I have this, I have this thing
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: that kind of pisces me off about people who and
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a hypocrite at this point too, because
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: I provide content suggestions and strategy advice, you know, but
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: everybody has a different scenario, right, and every like so
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: I take that much advice from a guy who hunts
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: large pieces of highly managed property, you know, or food
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: plot advice, because it's just not relatable to me. And
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people try to put themselves
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: into a scenario where they're chasing seven year old you know,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Boot and Crockett deer when they're hunting public land in Michigan.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, oh yeah. You gotta
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: be able to look at your reality and separate that
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: from what else you're seeing there from other people. For sure,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: it's easy to fall into that trap though, you know,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: I mean even and to your point, I preach it
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: all the time. I preached this, I mean, we do.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: We talked about this in the podcast all the time
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: about how you need to look at your own stuff
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: of circumstances base your own goals and tactics based on
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: those unique situations and circumstances. But I still find myself
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: looking at people in other circumstances and being like, how
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: come I can't do that? Like, in moments and moments
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: of weakness, I find myself like piste off or jealous
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: when I see someone else having some great success to something,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, gosh, dang, it like I wish it was that,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Like for me, how can I and you can't do that.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: You can't, you can't let that happen. But it is
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: human nature. Um, it's definitely human nature. But I don't
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: know so much of I feel like so much of
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: what we Maybe this is one of the reasons why
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: deer hunting at the to the degree that we take
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: it seriously, UM, why it's so compelling is that it's
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: if you think about the things we're thinking about, it's
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: an interesting reflection of a lot of just basic life
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: challenges in that I think we're talking about some things here,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: like setting expectations, dealing with adversity, paying attention to other people,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: comparing yourself to other people, learning from mistakes, um, getting
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: back up off the ground when bad things happen. Um.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: These are all these things that we are talking about
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: in the context of deer hunting, but they're actually just
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: bigger life lessons that could apply to everything from your job,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: to school to relationships. Um. And maybe this is like
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: a way that idiots like you and me can learn
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: stuff about life because of our obsession with deer hunting. UM.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: And maybe that's part of why we love this thing
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: and taking it as seriously as we do because it's, uh,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: there's other things going on here than just trying to
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: fill the freezer. Of course, that's that's the core of
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: what we're trying to do, but there's there's bigger picture
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: of things to learn from these experiences too, right, absolutely, man, absolutely?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Can I can I tell you about another huge area
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: of disappointment has been for me this year. Please don't
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: say co host. Please don't say co host. Please don't
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: say co host. No. Um. And this is another thing
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: that we talked about a lot, but I think I've
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: I've I've not done a good enough job with it,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: and that is with having different places to go. So
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: a big mistake for me this year, and this kind
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: of revolves all around what we were talking about earlier,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: is that I put all my eggs in the basket
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: of holy Field. So I was so focused on that
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: that I didn't take advantage of the other places I
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: had to hunt. But then I also didn't have as
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: many other good places to hunt as I should have too.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: So for example, from October one through October, I didn't
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: want to hunt my best spot where holy Field was
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: because of the things we talked about already. But I
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: also didn't want to leave the area because I wanted
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: to be close enough that if I did get a
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: daylight picture of holy Field or something like that, I
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: wanted to still be a hunt him. So I didn't
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: go to North Dakota like I was gonna do. I
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: didn't go to Ohio at all like I could have done.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: And because I didn't do a good job this year
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: on trying to find new spots in the general area,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't have any other high quality local spots to hunt,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: so I I kind of wasted three weeks in my
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: hunting season. Um. I went and I spent three or
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: four days up North Um, which is fun, but it
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: really wasn't, you know, going to pan out as far
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: as killing the sure buck. I had done some scouting
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: in public land this summer, so I thought I'm gonna
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: hunt a bunch public lands during that time period. But
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't do a good enough job scouting that public
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: I should have scouted more. I should have found more
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: spots on the public um because I hunted three times
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: in public but that didn't pan out at all. I
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: didn't spend so either either. I should have scouted more
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: or should have spent more time trying to hunt it
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: during that three week period to be able to just
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: and make something happen. But I didn't do that. Um
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: I got permission on a spot this summer, and then
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: I got lazy and busy and I never followed up
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: with him again because he wanted me to come back
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: and talk to him about details and some other stuff,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: and just because of how busy things were, and I
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: thought I'll just focus on these other things, I never
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: went and tried to take advantage of that. That was
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: another mistake. Um There's another piece of property I have
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: locally that I had permission on in past years, but
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: I fell out of touch with him, and because I
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: fell out of touch with them, I felt bad about
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: trying to call him up and say, oh hey, I
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: just want to hunt your property again, so that I
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: never followed up in the end this year. UM I
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: should have been dealing with this over the past couple
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: of years, and instead now I don't have permission on
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: this place anymore. Um So. And and then again, on
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: top of all those things, I should have been knocking
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: on more doors this year locally to try to get
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: more quality places. The point of all that being is
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: that I put too much into this one property. I
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: let other opportunities slip by. I didn't work hard enough
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: to find more places locally, So I've either lost out
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: in places or I didn't have other options when I
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: should have been taking advantage of that time period. Through
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: time period, I could have been doing a bunch more hunting,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: but I didn't. I hunted some subpar places just to
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: kind of pass the time until what I thought would
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: be prime time. Um, that was probably a mistake. I'm
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: missed out on some opportunities. So I think coming to
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: this next year, especially now that I'm gonna be putting
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: more time into Michigan, probably in the past because I
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: have this whole family thing going on that's going to
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: maybe change my travel schedule a little bit. Um, I
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: really need to find a bunch of good spots. I
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: can't just I can't just have a little, one little
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: good property in Michigan. Like the best deer hunters I
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: know that kill mature bucks consistently in Michigan have a
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: bunch of good places. I have a couple of decent
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: I've got one good spot and then a handful of
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: decent or Okay, spots. Um, and I've every year I'm like, oh,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: well that's okay. I need a bunch of good spots
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: if I want to consistently kill mature bucks and not
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: just get lucky every couple of years. Um. If I
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: want to be one of those people, it's going to
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: be doing that every year. I think I need to
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: have a lot more places. Because if you don't own
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: a couple, if you don't own a big place that
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: you can control, if you're in a situation like I am,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: where I'm hunting twenty maker little pieces and little pieces
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: and the nine piece and there's people everywhere, it's really
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: hard to get it done year in and year out,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: counting on one little spot to produce over and over. Um.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: So this year, hopefully I can practice what I preach
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: better than I have and do an even better job
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: this year finding us some new places. UM. And that
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: applies in Ohio too. I think my Ohio spots fizzling out.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: Um this year, I gotta find some new stuff there. Um.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: I need I need to rethink a lot of these
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: different things. I think I got a little comfortable. Over
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: the past maybe five years, things have been going well.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: I've killed a couple of bucks every year. The last
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: like five years or so, I was getting comfortable with
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: that um, and I maybe maybe let things slip. I
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: didn't push things as far as maybe I should have
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: as far as finding new areas, keeping other options open um,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: and I think that maybe bit me in the butt
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit this year. So that's that's another opportunity
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: area I think I've I've identified for all. Right, But
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: now we're gonna take our final break of the day
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: to thank our partners at Matthew's Archery. And as we've
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: been discussing over the past few weeks, Matthews has launched
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: their new boat for two thousand eighteen, the Matthews Try Acts,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: And today we've got Lelakowski of The Crush TV to
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: talk about the difference he's seen with the Try Acts
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: and how it stands out above other boats he's used.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: And it really it really hit home. You a lot
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: of times you need to pick up a bow for
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: the first time and you shoot it, it's like, yeah,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: it feels good, it feels quiet, and you know, vibration
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: free and everything, and it's but it's really kind of
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: hard to tell because you don't compare it to other ones.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: But when I got the try Acts, it was you know,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: in the summer, and it didn't even have a name
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: for it yet. It didn't have any limbo graphics or anything.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: It was just a boat. So I shot it, you know,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: a bunch of summer, just getting used to it. And
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: so right before we were going out to out West
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: to start our hunts, I said, well, I better grab
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: you know, my my hand on thirty two for my
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: backup boat, and I just said one shot with it.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: And I just was like, oh my gosh, what a difference.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, just like the vibration in your hand and stuff.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: And I was like, for how smooth and quiet that
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Haleen thirty two was, you know for me over the years,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: and I mean it was the I think last year
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: and all the comparison tests and everything, it was the
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: quietest and most libration for you have of any bow
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: on the market. I just couldn't believe how much different
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: the tracks was, even to the Halons. I was like, man,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: that's really where I saw the difference. And so I've
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: just been super impressed with it. If you would like
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: to learn more about the Matthews tracks, you can visit
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: Matthews Inc. Dot Com. Yeah, man, it's always always like
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: I'm always looking for new properties and that's just I
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: guess that's just a part of me. That number one.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: I like doing it, um And you know, I get
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: told no a lot, but I get told no a
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: lot outside of funding too, so UM, I'm used to it.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: But always looking for good ground is you know, it's
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: just I mean, I don't know, I just like to
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: hunt different places to um. Another thing that I want
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: to do kind of in regards to hunting new locations,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: and that is and I don't necessarily have a lot
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: to say on it right now, but the first thing
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: is I want to learn about crops and how they're
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: influencing the deer movement before the crops come out, because
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: I have a couple I had a couple of trail
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: cameras um on some crop field field edges this year
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: that showed a lot of promise. And I gotta learn
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: how to hunt those areas and when to hunt them
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: and just just put a little bit more focus on
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: them on the early season because some of I think
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: I maybe you know, that makes me hop into some
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: of my rut locations too early. If that makes sense, um,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: So before the crops come out, I really want to
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: take a look at some of those areas. You know,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: some of these places that once the crops come out,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: they go into the timber, but while the crops are in,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: they're living in buffer strips. They're living in these fields
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: or these very small, thin little sections of timber that
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: border or split up some of these big crop fields.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: And then I also want to learn what the deer
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: are doing that third week of November, maybe leading up
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: to maybe not even uh maybe not even this November,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: but that first week of December where the the rut
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: is in a kind of a trickling off mode, but
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: the big bucks are still on their feet. I want
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: to learn what the deer are doing and how to
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: hunt during that because I think I'm missing out on
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: some of my farms when it comes to like mature
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: buck movement on those two those two periods of time.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: So I agree with you a d. When it comes
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: to that, like that third week in November, that kind
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: of time period, I feel like I have done the
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: same thing. Um. That's It's it's tough in Michigan because
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: our gun season opens and that whole third and fourth
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: week and I've ever kind of gets blown out by
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: gun season, but I've always felt like I'm missing out
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: on that opportunity in states like Iowa, Ohio where they
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: don't have that gun season. UM. My challenge has always
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: been that that time period I think can definitely be good,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: but it's also like I've been hunting for three weeks
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: straight and my wife's about to kill me at that point,
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  Speaker 1: so I feel like I need to be taking some
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  Speaker 1: time away to spend out family, and then you got Thanksgiving. UM,
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  Speaker 1: And I always feel like I just have a hard
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  Speaker 1: time finding time to hunt at that point because of that. UM.
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  Speaker 1: But man if if I can figure out how to
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  Speaker 1: better balance that and still get some hunting opportunity in
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  Speaker 1: some of these places, I hud agree with you on
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  Speaker 1: figuring that time for about two but we need to
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  Speaker 1: wrap things up. I know you've got to get out
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  Speaker 1: of here. Dan, We've kind of rambled all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we've been like going on this thing
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  Speaker 1: that thing all over the place. UM. Maybe the moral
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  Speaker 1: of the story is that you and I both had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things go well. We also learned a
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  Speaker 1: lot from our mistakes. UM, and I gotta believe everyone
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  Speaker 1: else out there has had similar situations, whether you killed
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of deer and achieved your goals or you didn't. Um,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's always something to learn from it. So well,
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  Speaker 1: if you had to wrap it up, Dan, for you
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  Speaker 1: like your big your top couple of things that we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about here. Otherwise, if you're a big couple takeaways
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  Speaker 1: from this season, what were those most important things, um,
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  Speaker 1: that stand out above everything else? I guess number one
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  Speaker 1: would be continue to be fluid, to continue to let
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  Speaker 1: the the oh man, the situation like the like the
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  Speaker 1: weather or the wind direction or the temperature, or the
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  Speaker 1: knowledge you have of off trail cameras, let that dictate
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  Speaker 1: your I guess where your stand location is going to be,
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  Speaker 1: but then also use your gut to finalize that decision,
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  Speaker 1: if that makes sense. And then, um, the other the
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  Speaker 1: other thing would be, I don't know, man, just to
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  Speaker 1: continue to be observant and keep your eyes open and
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  Speaker 1: and if if there is failure, to embrace it, because
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: you don't get better, if you're perfect all the time.
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  Speaker 1: That's the truth right there. I agree with that for sure, UM,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that that Perris and well to then
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  Speaker 1: my big takeaways. Biggest takeaway from me has been not
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  Speaker 1: to get blinded by obsession, so so obsessed with killing
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  Speaker 1: holy Field this year, I think while that was it
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  Speaker 1: was a great goal and it was a fun goal
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  Speaker 1: to go after, I think it also caused me to
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  Speaker 1: again to overstressed, to overthink, to to miss out on
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  Speaker 1: other enjoyable parts of the hunting season. Um, and then
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  Speaker 1: also kept me from doing other things that maybe would
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  Speaker 1: have resulted in a better opportunities to Like I canceled
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  Speaker 1: a great trip to North Dakota, I didn't hunt the
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  Speaker 1: Ohio Rout almost at all. UM. So I missed out
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things because I was so so so
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  Speaker 1: focused on this one thing, which maybe that's a good thing,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's not. UM. And then I think we talked
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  Speaker 1: about this a lot, but just UM learning to learn
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  Speaker 1: from mistakes but not beat yourself up or overstressed about them.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big one. And then the final piece I
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  Speaker 1: think for me this year was the issue I just
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  Speaker 1: talked about a couple minutes ago, which was location. Like
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  Speaker 1: every year too, I'm constantly thinking about trying to find
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  Speaker 1: new places. I just need to do an even better job,
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  Speaker 1: like I need to just find more opportunities, because there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing more important, I think, when it comes right down
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  Speaker 1: to it, more important than location. You can't kill mature
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  Speaker 1: big bucks if you don't have anywhere to hunt that
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  Speaker 1: has them. And uh, that's especially true in a place
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  Speaker 1: like Michigan, where they're not everywhere by any means. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be knocking allowed doors or saving up pennies
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  Speaker 1: to try to buy up property someday or Lisa property
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  Speaker 1: somewhere or something, because you gotta get spots to hunt.
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  Speaker 1: So I hear we've been hearing a little person in
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  Speaker 1: the background, Dan, do you want to make your son famous? Hey, hey, Mac,
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  Speaker 1: can you say talk writing here and say stay wired
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  Speaker 1: to hunt? Yeah? That's awesome man. Alright, well, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a perfect way to write it up. Now say
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  Speaker 1: say Sai, say the October lull is a myth? Not
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: are we go now a we start talking dirty? All right,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: we're gone, We're gone, and that we'll do it for us.
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  Speaker 1: So big thank you to our partners who make this possible.
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  Speaker 1: Big thanks to Sit to Gear, YETI Cooler's Matthews Archery,
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  Speaker 1: Maven Optics, the White Tail Institute of North America, Trophy
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  Speaker 1: Ridge and hunt Terra maps. And finally, thank you for listening,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. I hope that you had
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  Speaker 1: an amazing two thousand seventeen season and hopefully one that
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  Speaker 1: you've been able to learn from and that you can
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  Speaker 1: take those lessons forward into the next one. So until
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  Speaker 1: next time, thanks again, and stay wired to Hunt.