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Zack Moss on the '26 Utah FB season, 63 days till kickoff, Wayshawn Parker poised to play bigger role (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: All right, halfway home here on a Thursday. Great to
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  Speaker 2: be with you today. We're halfway home on this show.
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  Speaker 2: We're only sixty three days until kickoff. The Utes open
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  Speaker 2: up their season on Thursday, September third against the Idaho Vandals.
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  Speaker 2: Big twelve Media days next week, I'll be down there
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  Speaker 2: You can hear Sean and Spence doing their show down
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  Speaker 2: there as well. Right here on ESPN seven hundred and
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  Speaker 2: ninety two one a FM, I thought we'd talk a
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  Speaker 2: little Big twelve at Utah football sixty three days out
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  Speaker 2: with one of my favorite seazy all time. I'm leading
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  Speaker 2: rusher and University of Utah football history. A retired NFL
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  Speaker 2: are now good to have Zach Moss back on the
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  Speaker 2: airwaves with us. What's up, buddy?
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  Speaker 1: How are you? What's up? My man? Doing good?
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  Speaker 2: I've been doing great. Can you believe we're nine weeks
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  Speaker 2: away till kickoff?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm moving fast, moving fast. But that's always a
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  Speaker 1: good thing.
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  Speaker 2: It is a great thing. I said this earlier. They're
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  Speaker 2: not going to probably do a preseason poll with the
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  Speaker 2: Big twelve. They stopped doing those a couple of years
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  Speaker 2: ago after the whole Arizona State sixteen to one thing.
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  Speaker 2: But I said, I if they did a preseason poll, Zach,
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  Speaker 2: I think Utah would probably be probably third in most
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  Speaker 2: people's mind. But as I've said the entire offseason, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think there's a big, great deal of difference between
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  Speaker 2: the top three Texas, Tech, BYU, and Utah.
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  Speaker 1: What about you? I believe saying if you look at
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  Speaker 1: hearing how all those three teams you know played each other,
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  Speaker 1: specifically Utah versus you know, BYU and Tech. You know,
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  Speaker 1: those are very very close games, So there's not much
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  Speaker 1: wiggle room between those top three. I think those three
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  Speaker 1: would be you know, pretty much everybody's top three, so
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  Speaker 1: you know it'll come down to what those guys do
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  Speaker 1: when that ball gets kicked off.
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  Speaker 2: So my question for you, Zach, and I'm just curious
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  Speaker 2: where you fall on this. Last year, Utah had arguably
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  Speaker 2: the best offensive line in college football. They were second
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  Speaker 2: in the NCAA. They ran for almost thirty five hundred
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  Speaker 2: yards last year. Between Wasshan and Rogers and Bray Devin Byrd.
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  Speaker 2: They just ran the hell out of the football last year.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's obviously been Utah's mentality back when
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  Speaker 2: you played before that. The whole thing, the physicality at
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  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. Wasshan's back, Devon's back, Bird is back,
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  Speaker 2: Bray is back. But the offensive line is going to
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  Speaker 2: be different this year. All five of those guys are
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  Speaker 2: going to be playing or at least in camps in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL. What's your read on what you think the
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  Speaker 2: offense looks like this year with an all new offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think the identity has to show up still.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's been running the ball and being
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  Speaker 1: physical upfront and things like that and set in tone.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, all those guys, uh, that's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: filling those roles for the type of office line we
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  Speaker 1: have last year, there's gonna be an expectation, not from
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  Speaker 1: that they'll hear from the outside, but the inside, right,
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  Speaker 1: like the coaches and and running backs in the quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: and things like that, for those guys to come in
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  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, step up and fill those big
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  Speaker 1: shoes early on, because this team has a great shot,
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  Speaker 1: and everything starts with the front, with those front five
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  Speaker 1: guys up front. So I think when we see something
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  Speaker 1: very similar when it comes to the productivity, that's hard
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  Speaker 1: to say, but I think if you can even get
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  Speaker 1: to you know, a little bit over half of that
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  Speaker 1: with the new weapons that we bring it in, you
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  Speaker 1: know on the outside and things of that nature, with
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  Speaker 1: the new offense, that's gonna be there, right. I think
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  Speaker 1: you got all the pieces still at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day when it comes to the skill guys. So
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  Speaker 1: I think if you can get to half of that
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  Speaker 1: still and then you added different elements to you know,
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  Speaker 1: pick up some of that where you're gonna be missing
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  Speaker 1: out on those thirty five hundred plus yards on just
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  Speaker 1: on the ground, I think they got they got a
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  Speaker 1: good shot. Obviously, you have to see it first with
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  Speaker 1: the new offensive coordinator and all that type of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: As well, so it'll be a little bumpy at first,
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  Speaker 1: most likely as expected. But you know, I'm sure, I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty sure it's hard to mess up a good run game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that the run game was so good last year.
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  Speaker 2: They were the number one rushing team of the Big
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  Speaker 2: Twelve by by over one thousand yards or just over
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  Speaker 2: one thousand yards last year, or just I should say,
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  Speaker 2: just under a thousand yards. They ran for thirty four
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  Speaker 2: hundred and sixty I think, and Texas Tech was at
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  Speaker 2: like twenty five hundred. So I still expect Utah to
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  Speaker 2: run the ball and run it well. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if thirty five hundreds in the cards, but Wayshan's back,
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  Speaker 2: and Braves back and Bird's back and Devn's those guys
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  Speaker 2: can all run it.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Wasyshan came up just shy of a thousand yards last year, Zach.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't like the bell cow number one guy till
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  Speaker 2: maybe four or five weeks in, and then they started
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  Speaker 2: feeding him that ball a little bit more. It's not
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  Speaker 2: quite like when you ran and you were getting twenty
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  Speaker 2: five and thirty yard carries a game, but he's getting
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  Speaker 2: twenty to maybe twenty three or twenty four I think,
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  Speaker 2: he gets a thousand this year, what about you?
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  Speaker 1: I agree, you know, I mean I was calling for
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  Speaker 1: him to get the ball early in the year just
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  Speaker 1: because you know, he definitely has a skill set and
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  Speaker 1: the top of all of this line they had last year,
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  Speaker 1: there was no reason for him to not be hitting
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  Speaker 1: those fifteen minimum carries a game. So you could see
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  Speaker 1: what he was able to do with the limited carries
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  Speaker 1: that he was getting and still turn it into a
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  Speaker 1: lot of productions. So I'll be very, very very shocked
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  Speaker 1: if he doesn't come away with a thousand plus dollars
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  Speaker 1: this year, you know, and adding another twelve fifteen touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think that's the expectation. Uh, you know
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  Speaker 1: he has for himself most likely. So I'm expecting a
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  Speaker 1: big year from him for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Take take me into a running back smine a number
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  Speaker 2: one running back way. Shaun's a number one back in
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  Speaker 2: RB one. You were in RB one when you were here.
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  Speaker 2: You know, other guys are going to carry it. But
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  Speaker 2: what what's your mindset?
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  Speaker 1: You?
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  Speaker 2: We always hear like you kind of build that momentum
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  Speaker 2: as the game. The more carries you get, the more
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  Speaker 2: comfortable you start building it. What's a mindset of a
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  Speaker 2: running back one you never want to come out. I'm
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  Speaker 2: guessing maybe just to get a little bit of a
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  Speaker 2: drink or a blow real quick. But outside of that,
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  Speaker 2: in today's day and age, even in the NFL, when
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  Speaker 2: you play there, it's very rare to see a guy
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  Speaker 2: get twenty five or thirty carries anymore. It's usually seventeen
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  Speaker 2: to twenty. But how do you how do you approach
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  Speaker 2: it as an RB one going in? You want to
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  Speaker 2: carry it as much as possible, but you've got to
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  Speaker 2: worry about the workload.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in college, the good thing is you
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  Speaker 1: can have a true RB one. In the NFL is
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot more politics that kind of
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  Speaker 1: go into it on that aspect things. But that's why
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to you see that. Nobody to see that anymore,
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  Speaker 1: even though a lot of guys in that league are
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  Speaker 1: very capable. But in college you can definitely have a
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  Speaker 1: true chew one, you know, mindset wise is you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think you train, you know, all off season to
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  Speaker 1: not come out to be in those situations right where
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  Speaker 1: you know your coaches can turn to you and say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he can handle five, six, seven, eight carries in a row.
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  Speaker 1: Right where it's a pivotal point in the game and
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  Speaker 1: we need them all. We can trust them to not
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  Speaker 1: put the ball in the ground, to fall forward until
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  Speaker 1: you get you know, positive yards and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: But overall is about being consistent right to your point.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you get better as you keep getting those
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  Speaker 1: carries right. So that's the consistency part. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think he has the ability. You know, it'll be
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  Speaker 1: hard just because you have so many guys that are very,
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  Speaker 1: very good as well, but that's where you were a
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  Speaker 1: real one. You've got to separate yourself and you know,
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  Speaker 1: make sure the coaches know even though we've got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of talent on his office side of the ball,
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  Speaker 1: right at the end of the day, this is I'm
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  Speaker 1: still the main person that you want to get going first.
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  Speaker 2: What was there ever a time, let's go back to
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  Speaker 2: like twenty nineteen you're running it like crazy. I think
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  Speaker 2: he ended up with almost four over to fourteen hundred
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  Speaker 2: yards that year. You've got you know, Will Moore is there,
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  Speaker 2: Devonte Henry Coles there. I think Brumfield was there a
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  Speaker 2: little bit too. Was there ever a time when you
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  Speaker 2: were like running it well and somebody came running on
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  Speaker 2: the field and you're like trying to wave them back.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, no, I want to stay in the game.
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  Speaker 1: Uh No, I can't remember if I ever hid. I
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  Speaker 1: know I probably felt like that in twenty seventeen my
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  Speaker 1: first four year started. Probably, But you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: like to my point, you know, I prepare all off
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  Speaker 1: seasons to not have to be able to come out
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  Speaker 1: right even after a long run, get right back in
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  Speaker 1: the huddle and there's a real opportunity that I can
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  Speaker 1: get the ball again on the next snap. Right. That
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  Speaker 1: puts the defense and stress. You know. The main thing
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  Speaker 1: is being a three down back, the guy I can
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  Speaker 1: do it on all three different levels, right, pass blocking,
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  Speaker 1: catching the ball, and running the ball, so you never
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  Speaker 1: have to come up the field because that makes the
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  Speaker 1: offense even more hard to stop because now right, say
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  Speaker 1: I'm in and I'm only able to play first and
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  Speaker 1: second down because I can't pick up blisz. They'll test
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  Speaker 1: the ball very well on third downs. Right. So that's
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  Speaker 1: that's a true one. That's a guy who's been we're
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  Speaker 1: all and that's from the conditioning standpoints, that beat on
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  Speaker 1: the field and being the guy that you know your coaches,
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  Speaker 1: the fans and the players can obviously count on.
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  Speaker 2: Every day Utah great Zach Moss with us here on
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  Speaker 2: the shott of Kyddle Show today Bill Riley sitting in
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  Speaker 2: for Sean as we sit sixty three days out until kickoff.
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  Speaker 2: So be really curious your perspective on Devin damp Pier
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  Speaker 2: and Bird Fickland. It's a really interesting dynamic, Zach, that
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  Speaker 2: you don't get very often. Usually the guy behind the
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  Speaker 2: guy wants to play and really wants to push and
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  Speaker 2: get in there, and if he doesn't get a chance
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  Speaker 2: to play, especially in today's day and age, he wants
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  Speaker 2: to go someplace else where you could play. Bird had
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  Speaker 2: a great year, sub and in last year could have
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  Speaker 2: probably gone to a lot of different places, have been
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  Speaker 2: a starter this year, but chose to stay around. What
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  Speaker 2: do you make of that dynamic in what those two
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  Speaker 2: guys bring to the Utah offense, both Ficklan and of
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  Speaker 2: course Devin.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, first you know that, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a real commendable thing that that Bird did, right, But
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  Speaker 1: obviously a lot of players right ninety five per center,
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  Speaker 1: players that would have just taken especially in the nil
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  Speaker 1: world right now, right, would have taken, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: better offer whatever than they have been right playing time
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  Speaker 1: and all this type stuff. But I think that just
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  Speaker 1: speaks to the character of both guys, right, because damn
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  Speaker 1: Pier all seas long, you know, and I've never spoken
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  Speaker 1: to him, but just watching all season long, he was
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  Speaker 1: never an eye guy, right, especially sometimes that quarterback when
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  Speaker 1: you you know, obviously you want to go play in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL and things of that nature, and a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: they never want to share the spotlight. They never want
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  Speaker 1: this coaching staff to see what the other guy can do.
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  Speaker 1: And you hear a lot of a lot of football
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  Speaker 1: players always say that you never want to come off
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  Speaker 1: the field because you never know, right, But he always was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he wanted Bird to come in and play
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  Speaker 1: a big role to help, and that just comes down
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  Speaker 1: to winning. I think both of those guys at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the days just care about winning. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's a real, real selfless thing that you don't really
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  Speaker 1: find anymore in this landscape of football and erro in
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  Speaker 1: right now, it's just guys that's being super selfless and
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  Speaker 1: not caring about all the other outside noise and things
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  Speaker 1: like that. So with both of those guys, I mean
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  Speaker 1: it puts us in a really good spot because you
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  Speaker 1: can't get a real good key on the offense right.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes the quarterback you know exactly what they want to do,
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  Speaker 1: what they like to do, what he likes to do,
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  Speaker 1: what's the weaknesses are, right, And when you're kind of
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  Speaker 1: game plan for its quarterbacks, that is very very hard
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  Speaker 1: because you only gets so much time during the week
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  Speaker 1: for practice and now you got to figure out, okay,
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  Speaker 1: how do we script you know, fifteen places for this
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  Speaker 1: quarterback and in fifteen places for this quarterback, and then
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  Speaker 1: you add in the running ability from both guys are
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  Speaker 1: super dynamic. You know, that just makes it very very hard.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a big thing that they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna lean into, which they definitely should, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it'll make a lot of mismatches for offense this season.
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  Speaker 2: I agree Zach Moss with us here on the Shadow
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  Speaker 2: Condo Show today is a guy that ran it really well,
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  Speaker 2: more and better than anybody in Utah football history. These
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  Speaker 2: two guys run it well. Your guys Snoop could run,
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  Speaker 2: but he didn't look like a running back running. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: I watched Devin and Bird run and they look like
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  Speaker 2: running backs who are playing quarterback at times, what do
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  Speaker 2: you make of their running styles?
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  Speaker 1: I mean that just shows you how much the game is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, advanced, and just a quick little bit of time,
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy to see how much better the athletes are getting.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of quarterbacks, right, these quarterbacks are
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  Speaker 1: being taught now to be able to run, to be
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  Speaker 1: able to have that you know, that piece of uh
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  Speaker 1: to their game. They put that in their arsenal as well,
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  Speaker 1: because that only makes it even more valuable. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you know the traditional pocket passing quarterback right, Uh, you
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  Speaker 1: know that's kind of dying off a little bit. All
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  Speaker 1: these guys are such such great athletes. We've seen that
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  Speaker 1: in every position, not just the quarterback, defuse the ends,
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  Speaker 1: tight ends. Look at the NFL to combine and guys
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  Speaker 1: tight ends, you know, two hundred and fifty pounds running
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  Speaker 1: four five, four fours, things of that nature. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's something that we definitely need to get
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  Speaker 1: used to because these kids are now being taught that
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  Speaker 1: in Bird and Dampierre just great great athletes in their
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  Speaker 1: own right. So you know, that's a it's a such
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  Speaker 1: a special thing to watch because I mean, I forget
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  Speaker 1: what Gamer was and maybe Colorado where you know they
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  Speaker 1: were just tearing it up, and I'm just like, this
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  Speaker 1: is ridiculous because it's running back. If I'm Parker, you
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  Speaker 1: love having a running quarterback because it opens up the box.
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  Speaker 1: So now you only got to be one dude most
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  Speaker 1: of the time. And then you know it's a bad
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  Speaker 1: thing too, because sometimes you know they want to run
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  Speaker 1: into and they pull the ball out to hands and
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  Speaker 1: times it's true.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's the one challenge I think Kevin mcgiven's gonna
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  Speaker 2: have this year's the new OC as Zach is. He's
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of guys that can be dangerous weapons,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's Dan Pierre or Parker or Ficklin or Daniel
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  Speaker 2: Bray or Nate Johnson or Hunter Andrews. And then you've
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  Speaker 2: got that whole new group of wide receivers, which might
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  Speaker 2: be the biggest and deep deepest group they've had in
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  Speaker 2: a long time. You know, guys like Larry Simmons, who's back.
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  Speaker 2: But then you factor and Creed Whittemore, and you factor
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  Speaker 2: in Braden Pagan and Kyrie scholez. There's only one football, right,
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  Speaker 2: There's only one football, Zach, and they got to find
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  Speaker 2: a way to get in a lot of people's hands.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it kind of reminds me of just
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of the Philadelphia Eagles offense, where it's
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  Speaker 1: just you have so much talent. You know, obviously everything
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  Speaker 1: runs up front with the with the offensive line and
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  Speaker 1: having you know, the running backs in the backfield and
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  Speaker 1: you know, very talented duel threat quarterback. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: as you said that, the biggest thing this offseason that uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was hoping for was to get that
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  Speaker 1: receiving game going. So he's gonna have very very interesting
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  Speaker 1: time trying to figure out how to keep all those
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  Speaker 1: guys happy. Like I said before, I think you know,
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  Speaker 1: they got lucky because the head of the of the
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  Speaker 1: Snake with Dan Peter and Bird being the two leaders
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  Speaker 1: of the All Friends quarterbacks and being selfless and showing
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  Speaker 1: that each and every day is going to only triple
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  Speaker 1: down into all those guys. So you know, as the
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  Speaker 1: goal as they play as a group, everybody looks really
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  Speaker 1: good when you play as a group, and know it's
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  Speaker 1: never one person that makes anything go as always the group.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I was going to bring up,
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I'm glad you touched on it. When
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: you've got the two quarterbacks and they're selfless and they're
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: they're you know, they're they're it just has to fall
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: in line because if you're, if your leaders are doing that,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: everybody else has got to do that too, or you know,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: the rest of the room kind of pushes you aside,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: don't they. You don't want to be the guy that
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: steps out of line and says, hey, get me the
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: ball exactly.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to do that, you know, And
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I think you know they got I think that's why
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Coach Scaley wanted to have, you know, both of those
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: guys and let them know they're playing things like that because,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: like I said, like you said, you don't want to
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: be the guy that steps out and says, oh, be
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: the eye guy. Right, It's all about the team. Team, team, team, team,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: and you know that's what all you talk football is about.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Before I let you go, what what's the one thing
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: when fall camp comes rolling around that you're going to
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: be keeping your eye on as we get you sixty
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: three days still kickoff. But there's always questions heading into camp.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: So what's the biggest question on Zach Moss's mind.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I think the passing game. You know, I was pretty
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: vocal about it last year to some degree. You know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I think those were if you look back at it,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the tech game, well, we played extremely well for first
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: three quarters, right, but they shut us down the run game.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: You couldn't get any vertical pass game going, and you
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: know they were able to do it later in the game.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: And then you go back to the BYU game. You know,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I remember being there on the field and I'm looking
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: at the safety, super lowlos another linebacker down there, just
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: because they knew we wanted to, you know, only throw
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: five yard routes and we had no real vertical threats.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: So I think the biggest thing for this offense to
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: take a leap. Everything else is going to figure yourself out. Right,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: you got the athletes, you got this scheme. When it
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: comes to the run game and things of that nature,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I think the passing game is something that takes a
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: lot of time and a lot of work that could
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: be tricky depending on how you use it. Two quarterbacks too,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: which whichever one you feel is maybe probably you know
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: better act on the ball or hopefully you know, kind
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: of equal that would be nice. So the passing game
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: for me and giving us somebody becoming a real true,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: you know, vertical threat, which we have not had. You know,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I think in my time, you know, Darren Carrington uh
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: was our you know vertical threat, but we have not
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: had somebody that was just the true wide receiver one. Right,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: we talked about two quarterbacks and the RB one. But
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: now it's time to get us even even we have
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: some really good passing catching tight ends, but now it's
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and to find a real receiver ward. So that's the challenge,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: is somebody this stuff up be in that room. You know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: they got coach bumpers back and things like that, and
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: he he knows how to do that very well. So
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking forward to seeing that this offseason
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: and getting back into seeing what they can do with that.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Hey, it's great catching up with you. Have a great
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: weekend with the family. I'll talk to you soon.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir man, I appreciate it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: You thanks Zach. Zach Moss with us here on ESPN
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: seven hundred ninety two to one FM.