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Speaker 1: Jeez, it's the Gold Report.
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Speaker 2: Tonight. Kevin Rudd once said Labour's climate change policies would
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Speaker 2: cost you just one dollar a year, but guess what
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Speaker 2: it costs you now, And how Europe is revolting against
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Speaker 2: mass immigration now the politician called the Dutch Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: causes the collapse of the Dutch government after demanding aslum
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Speaker 2: seekers be deported. Also tonight, backfire is Anthony Oveneazy recruits,
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Speaker 2: to say a senator who's ratted on the Greens one
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Speaker 2: of her former staffers now through a sue her for
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Speaker 2: bad treatment and disgusting. Ela Musk tears into Donald Trump's
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Speaker 2: latest move. At first the apologies to Tasmanians, but for
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Speaker 2: most of strands, what you get up to down there
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Speaker 2: politically barely matters. I said, a look at the mess
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Speaker 2: the Liberal government is in. This seems about to be
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Speaker 2: forced to the polls after getting up to its neck
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Speaker 2: in debt. And I'm thinking, what an example of why
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Speaker 2: this country is in decline while we're all getting poorer.
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Speaker 2: And just look how poor I mean, today's Australian growth figures.
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Speaker 2: What a disaster. The overall growth figures are terrible enough,
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Speaker 2: I mean just zero point two percent growth for the
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Speaker 2: March quarter. That's half of what was expected. But the
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Speaker 2: real figure that you count is even worse. Growth per person.
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Speaker 2: That's once you share this tony little growth we've seen
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Speaker 2: nationally with all the extra people the immigrants pouring in
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Speaker 2: taking their share, well, then growth per person actually fell
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Speaker 2: by zero point two percent. In fact, per capita growth
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Speaker 2: has now gone backwards for eight of the past nine quarters.
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Speaker 2: Australia really is in decline to decline. That's shidden only
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Speaker 2: by the mass immigration propping up the overall figures. But
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Speaker 2: there was Treasurer Jim Chalmers today once more blaming the
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Speaker 2: world anyone but himself and telling us if we can
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Speaker 2: still see him, don't worry. We can then know that
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Speaker 2: things will be fine.
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Speaker 3: I firmly believe that there are good reasons to be
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Speaker 3: optimistic about our economy. If I believed that Australia had
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Speaker 3: peaked or at this was the best that we could
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Speaker 3: hope for, I wouldn't be here now.
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Speaker 2: I won't discuss all the reasons why Australia's in this
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Speaker 2: per capita of recession. You know how productivity is shockingly low.
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Speaker 2: Business being titled with the pro union laws green tape,
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Speaker 2: red tape, black tape, smash the high power prices caused
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Speaker 2: by this mad crusade for net zero missions. Let me
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Speaker 2: instead get back to Tasmania as an example of Australia's rot.
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Speaker 2: It's cultural rot too, Premier Jeremy Rockcliffe, he could become
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Speaker 2: the first Australian premier lose his job because we're just
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Speaker 2: too crazy about sport, too crazy about sport and not
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Speaker 2: crazy enough about finding the money to pay for our pleasures.
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Speaker 2: In Tasmania, the Labor opposition has now seen itself get
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Speaker 2: its nose in front of the polls, and it also
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Speaker 2: sees one of the government's big projects, the Plan You
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Speaker 2: Stadium in Hobart, built as a condition demanded by the
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Speaker 2: AFL for getting an AFL team the Tasmanian Devils. That
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Speaker 2: stadium is again blown its budget and isn't all that popular.
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Speaker 4: Tasmanians have had a bloody gut full over your stadium.
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Speaker 2: Stay, must Jackie Lamby always carry on like that? Is
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Speaker 2: that a Tasmanian thing? Anyway? The costs blow out. This
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Speaker 2: stadium was supposed to cost seven hundred and fifteen million dollars,
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Speaker 2: which is already crazy enough for a very small state
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Speaker 2: which has already had it's really got stadium. The latest
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Speaker 2: figure though, this new one will cost another two hundred
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Speaker 2: million dollars more than was first promised. It's on the
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Speaker 2: Victorian disease as well. You know, whatever the government builds,
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Speaker 2: be certain it's going to cost much more than they promise.
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Speaker 2: But then you know, this is Australia where sport is god,
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Speaker 2: and Labor doesn't want to say it's actually against this
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Speaker 2: stadium no matter what it costs. It's just saying, oh,
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Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, we're not against the stadium. We're
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Speaker 2: just looking at deb generally under this liberal government. So
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Speaker 2: Labour now says we're putting up a no confidence motion
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Speaker 2: against the premier, which will be held tonight. The vote
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Speaker 2: will be held tonight and if it's passed, it means
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Speaker 2: the premier should quit.
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Speaker 5: And if you can't be trusted with the finances, then
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Speaker 5: you cannot lead this state. When this premier got into
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Speaker 5: the job, there was barely a billion dollars worth of
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Speaker 5: net debt.
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Speaker 1: Three years later we're on a pathway.
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Speaker 5: Towards eleven billion dollars worth of net It is staggering, extraordinary, reckless,
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Speaker 5: irresponsible and how could anyone support that.
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Speaker 2: Now? Rock Cliffe says no. If he loses this vote,
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Speaker 2: it's not going to episode for a new premier. He's
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Speaker 2: going to call a new election.
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Speaker 1: This day.
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Speaker 2: It might not.
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Speaker 1: End well for me, but this day will define you.
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Speaker 5: This day will define you for the rest of your
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Speaker 5: political career.
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Speaker 6: Where you are now will have the stigma as leader
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Speaker 6: of being a wrecker.
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Speaker 2: But really, Labor does have a point and the Liberals
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Speaker 2: all over Australia should be frightened that they are losing
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Speaker 2: their reputation for being good with money. I mean the
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Speaker 2: Canberra Liberals as well. It's not just that AFL stadium
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Speaker 2: that's costing a fortune more than was promised. The most
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Speaker 2: embarrassing example, and I am talking about world class embarrassment,
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Speaker 2: is the government's plan to replace Tasmania's ferries ferries to Melbour,
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Speaker 2: which are key obviously to bringing over tourists. The new
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Speaker 2: and bigger Fairies of Order were meant to cost seven
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Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen million dollars and be delivered four years ago.
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Speaker 2: But first the German builders went bust, and then the
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Speaker 2: finished builders had all this trouble. Then there was a
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Speaker 2: nine month delay while the government thought well, what do
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Speaker 2: we do next? And then or more complicated, well all
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Speaker 2: in all, all in all, it sounded exactly like the
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Speaker 2: stuffing around about with the new submarines under the federal Liberals,
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Speaker 2: doesn't it. Oh we'll get the submarines from Japan, no France, Oh,
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Speaker 2: no from America. And with these fairies, with all that,
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Speaker 2: the costs just whar boom, from seven hundred and fifty
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Speaker 2: fourteen million dollars seven and fourteen to nearly a billion dollars.
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Speaker 2: And that isn't even the worst of it. The government
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Speaker 2: just realized, oh, there are no berths in Devonport for
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Speaker 2: these bigger fairies. Ooh, have to build those first, And
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Speaker 2: they mentioned the whole same thing again. These are new
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Speaker 2: births who are meant to cost ninety million dollars and
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Speaker 2: be ready this year latest estimate. The cost is now
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Speaker 2: nearly half a billion dollars and the births won't be
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Speaker 2: ready until next year. It's all so stupid. The Liberal
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Speaker 2: Senator Jonathan Dunham was today having to plead with the
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Speaker 2: AFL to show that has mainly a government of mercy
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Speaker 2: and maybe drop some of its expensive demands for that
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Speaker 2: new stadium.
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Speaker 6: Of course, seeing increased costs concerns everyone, me included, especially
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Speaker 6: when you do have existing infrastructure like Ninja Stadium in
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Speaker 6: bel Reeve and you're parking Lonsest and as some have said,
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Speaker 6: but the AFL have set their deal there, maybe they
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Speaker 6: could come to the table and give Tasmanians a break
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Speaker 6: and perhaps reduce the burden on the taxpayers here and
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Speaker 6: let us play at these stadiums that we currently have,
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Speaker 6: rather than demanding the expenditure they want for.
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Speaker 2: Any begging of sporting code to ask a little less mean.
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Speaker 2: But like I said, this is Australia, this is sport.
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Speaker 2: You know how could we say no to the kiddies
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Speaker 2: and tell them are no, we can't afford to build
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Speaker 2: a billion dollar new stadium for you. I mean, just
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Speaker 2: look at the tears of the marketing manager of the
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Speaker 2: new Tasmanian Devil's AFL team. That is, if this team
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Speaker 2: actually goes ahead with the new stadium, perhaps in some doubt.
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Speaker 7: This can't be.
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Speaker 8: Is powered by our future generations, by our kids and
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Speaker 8: by our grandkids.
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Speaker 7: It's an opportunity to bring this state together. It's an
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Speaker 7: opportunity to create pathways.
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Speaker 2: What a farce? I mean, if ever, you've wondered why
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Speaker 2: China has since steaming her head or we're just bumping
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Speaker 2: along at the bottom. I mean, look at Tasmania and
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Speaker 2: weep for this country me by the misery for the
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Speaker 2: Federal Liberals just keeps piling up on Today, Teal candidate
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Speaker 2: Nicolae Boulle was declared the winner for the New South
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Speaker 2: Wales seat of Bradfield, winning by just twenty six votes
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Speaker 2: against the Liberal high flying candidate. She's el Capteririan, who
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Speaker 2: had seen so likely to win that new Liberal leader
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Speaker 2: Susan Lee had actually picked her in a shadow ministry.
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Speaker 2: I mean the Liberal machine, how hopeless is it? Clearly
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Speaker 2: let Lee down again telling her that Capterian did seem
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Speaker 2: the winner, and now she's got to wait to see
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Speaker 2: if the party will challenge that result. When the margin
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Speaker 2: of twenty six votes or so tight, so it could
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Speaker 2: be another month or two before Lee can replace Capterian
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Speaker 2: and then certainly with another woman join mister panel Michael
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Speaker 2: costs the former New South Wales Labor Treasurer Michael danby
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Speaker 2: Federal Labor MP Michael. Let's start with today's growth figures,
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Speaker 2: or shall we say shrink figure This growth in the
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Speaker 2: first three months of this year just zero point two percent,
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Speaker 2: but taking into account all the new immigrants, actually a
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Speaker 2: zero point two percent fall in GDP per capita. How
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Speaker 2: bad is this.
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Speaker 9: Well, Andrew, it's bad, but it's consistent with what the
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Speaker 9: trajectory was going to be in any event, that's the
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Speaker 9: whole point of having high interest rates to slow that
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Speaker 9: GDP growth. So I'm not surprised by that. What I'm
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Speaker 9: surprised about is what the point you made The Treasurer's response,
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Speaker 9: which was quite ridiculous. You know, we're really facing a
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Speaker 9: sort of situation where the Treasurer is completely clueless about
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Speaker 9: economic policy. I mean not only that, Andrew, I mean
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Speaker 9: I heard him today make a comment about those unrealized
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Speaker 9: capital gains that was just ridiculous, talking about it being
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Speaker 9: something the Treasury advocated, as if the treasure had no
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Speaker 9: responsibility for economic policy. No, I wonder where I've got problems.
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Speaker 9: You know, this bloke seriously is clueless this tax, Andre.
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Speaker 9: I know I'm harping on it, but it's indicative of
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Speaker 9: the problems that we face. If we get this wrong,
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Speaker 9: we won't be able to form capital in this country
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Speaker 9: to turn around those sorts of d DP figures we've got,
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Speaker 9: dan he's attacking it in a very blunt way.
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Speaker 2: Mate.
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Speaker 9: The guy ought to have studied rather than keening, he
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Speaker 9: ort to study the window tax they used in the
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Speaker 9: seventeenth century. They put a tax on windows, as you know,
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Speaker 9: and everybody bought it up their windows. That's what's going
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Speaker 9: to happen to our capital formation in this country. People
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Speaker 9: will avoid paying taxes. And he wants to base everything
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Speaker 9: on economic growth. He's got no idea, Andrew.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you're talking there about the proposed tax on
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Speaker 2: unrealized super games and accounts of more than three million dollars.
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Speaker 2: The absolutely correct Michael Danby. As Michael just Costa just
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Speaker 2: mentioned once again, the Treasurer is blaming foreigners.
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Speaker 3: Here is, with all of the uncertainty in the world,
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Speaker 3: any growth is a decent outcome.
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Speaker 1: Any growth is a good outcome.
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Speaker 10: Is the Australian Treasurer's rallying call. It's hardly inspiring two
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Speaker 10: international capital markets, let alone Australian industry. I encourage the
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Speaker 10: Treasurer to be more ambitious for growth in Australia.
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Speaker 2: I see the shadow treasure is one of those three
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Speaker 2: flag liberals. But anyway, how much of this per capita recession.
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Speaker 2: Do you think, Michael Danby is the government's fault.
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Speaker 11: Well, the percentage of the economy that's government expenditure has
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Speaker 11: never been higher.
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Speaker 1: I think this is sub.
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Speaker 11: Superannuation taxes, as Paul Keating says and Michael Costa says,
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Speaker 11: to a terrible idea.
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Speaker 1: One of the reasons Australia.
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Speaker 11: Has done so well is because our huge super funds
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Speaker 11: are available for invest in Australia, and this is going
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Speaker 11: to wind back the keeping reforms. So I think we've
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Speaker 11: been using our very very large Ponzi immigration scheme. I
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Speaker 11: was in favor of large immigration, but not a million
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Speaker 11: people in two years. That's going to come to an end.
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Speaker 11: So we'll go down to less than the point two
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Speaker 11: percent growth that you just pointed to. Is a bit
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Speaker 11: of a fiction given the fact that there's another point
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Speaker 11: two percent that it hasn't been included in.
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Speaker 2: That look it didn't take into account. You're quite right
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Speaker 2: if immigration does come down, but I think the labor
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Speaker 2: will let it rip. Their predictions of falls in immigration
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Speaker 2: haven't come true yet, so we shall see the political
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Speaker 2: bonfard in Tasmania and Michael Costa, Labor's no confidence motion.
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Speaker 2: It's holding up the passage of the budget bills as
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Speaker 2: what a snap election? If that's how the premier response,
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Speaker 2: And then the question is with money for public servants
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Speaker 2: wages will be there? What is all this drama in
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Speaker 2: Tasmania telling you about either that state or this country.
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Speaker 9: Well, I don't want to comment on the state. I
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Speaker 9: don't regard it as state. I regard it as a
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Speaker 9: large local council. It's actually operating when you watch down there,
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Speaker 9: like a large local council. Given the politics of it.
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Speaker 9: What I find extraordinary is that that and I don't
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Speaker 9: even know his name, the opposition leader down in the
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Speaker 9: labor opposition leaders so worried about ten billion dollar debt.
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Speaker 9: If he's worried about debt, you ought to go and
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Speaker 9: take a plane ride up to camera and start talking
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Speaker 9: to charmers who's hedding for a trillion dollars of debt
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Speaker 9: and budget deficits forever. So look, that's just an excuse
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Speaker 9: for political opportunism. But it does raise the question about
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Speaker 9: the quality of our politicians. I've said on many occasions
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Speaker 9: we seem to be governed by credentialed fools that really
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Speaker 9: don't understand how economies run and the sorts of things
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Speaker 9: they need to do to keep growth.
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Speaker 1: There's this anti growth thing.
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Speaker 9: We see it most evidently of course in the you know,
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Speaker 9: the net zero, but it underpins all of this. The
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Speaker 9: only way out of all this dead is to grow
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Speaker 9: the economy, and I mean really grow it, not with
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Speaker 9: government funds.
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Speaker 2: Tasmania. Michael Michael Danby, what do you make of it?
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Speaker 2: I mean a premiere that promised what he shouldn't have
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Speaker 2: and couldn't afford for a sporting code. I mean, seriously,
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Speaker 2: is that what brings this country down?
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Speaker 11: Well, you said a number of very funny things in
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Speaker 11: the introduction to Andrew first of all, but you didn't
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Speaker 11: notice that sitting behind him was.
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Speaker 2: Eric Abbet. What is he doing? Back to.
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Speaker 11: It goes to Michael Coster's points. I mean, Eric's a
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Speaker 11: good bloke, but I never knew he got back into
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Speaker 11: state politics. And you've got Jackie Lamby abusing and foul
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Speaker 11: mouthing the public down there, and the huge cost of
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Speaker 11: those fairies. Are they insane?
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Speaker 12: Now?
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Speaker 1: I don't get it.
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Speaker 11: And in the meantime, it seems that a large part
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Speaker 11: of the Tasmanian body politic wants to destroy the fishing industry,
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Speaker 11: the salmon industry, which is some of the only productive
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Speaker 11: and capital things that they that they do down there.
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Speaker 11: I'm sorry, I'm not very impressed with Wilkie Lamby the
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Speaker 11: Greens and the prevailing political zeitgeist in Tasmania.
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Speaker 2: No, no, there's not much good that's coming out of
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Speaker 2: Tasmania at the moment. If this is the same for
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Speaker 2: example of it, Michael Costs and Michael Well I like Eric,
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Speaker 2: and Guy Barman is also down there resurrecting his federal career. Yeah, yeah, yeah, mate,
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Speaker 2: it's you've got Well here's also a nice guy like him. Gentlemen,
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much to you both, Michael, Damie, Michael Costa.
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Speaker 2: Everywhere around the West, immigration has become a massive issue
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Speaker 2: and a threat, seen as a threat by many voters.
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Speaker 2: Now you see Donald Trump, he actually won the US
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Speaker 2: election in my opinion, because Joe Barden led him more
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Speaker 2: than eight million illegal immigrants. In France last weekend we
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Speaker 2: saw more mass rights by mobs that seem to include
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Speaker 2: many people from immigrant communities. That country's being torn apart.
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Speaker 2: And in Britain, the labor government is under huge pressure
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Speaker 2: after a record twelve hundred legal immigrants arrived last Saturday
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Speaker 2: and Nigel Faraj, leader the anti Immigration Reform Party. He's
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Speaker 2: leading Labor and the Conservatives both in the polls Now
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Speaker 2: in the Netherlands get Wilders. Some call him the Holland's
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. He was the biggest winner at the last selection.
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Speaker 2: He has pulled this party out of the governing coalition
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Speaker 2: there were three other parties in it, and has caused
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Speaker 2: that government to fall. And he blames the other parties
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Speaker 2: in his coalition for not agreeing to his radical plan
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Speaker 2: to slash immigration from the Third World, to effectively suspend
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Speaker 2: the national asylum system, to haul's foundry reunions for refugees,
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Speaker 2: to send back all Syrian nationals, and to militarize the
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Speaker 2: Dutch borders.
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Speaker 5: I signed for the strictest to silent policy, not for
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Speaker 5: the downfall of the Netherlands.
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Speaker 2: Join me from Amsterdam is Dutch senator Annabel Nikah, co
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Speaker 2: founder of the Conservative Liberal Party JA twenty one. Annabel,
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Speaker 2: Always great to see you. Why is immigration such a
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Speaker 2: big issue?
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Speaker 1: Great to see you too, Andrew.
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Speaker 13: Well, as you explained previously, these are mostly immigrants from
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Speaker 13: a culture that clashes with the Dutch or European or
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Speaker 13: Western culture oftentimes that even despise it. You know, they
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Speaker 13: try to impose their own culture and cultural practices on
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Speaker 13: our society, making them less safe, less free, less liberal.
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Speaker 13: So obviously that's a problem. It's also a problem for
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Speaker 13: our social security system, on which those so called refugees
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Speaker 13: rely heavily.
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Speaker 1: And it's a big, big.
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Speaker 13: Problem because we have a huge housing crisis in the Netherlands.
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Speaker 13: Nobody can find a place to live and well. With
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Speaker 13: an influx of a small Dutch city per year, it's
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Speaker 13: just not feasible anymore to keep up this level of immigration.
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Speaker 2: Aftering people complain that they had to move out of
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Speaker 2: their house to make way for asylum seekers. It's just incredible.
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Speaker 2: Why does Skipwilders want an election when his party is
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Speaker 2: already part of the government.
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Speaker 13: Well, not only that his party has the Minister of
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Speaker 13: Asylum and Immigration, they had the tools to do something
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Speaker 13: about it now, I mean.
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Speaker 1: He had a golden ticket.
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Speaker 13: This is a right wing coalition with only right wing parties,
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Speaker 13: and to be fair, I do respect mister Wilders and
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Speaker 13: his efforts for our country, but this seems to be
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Speaker 13: an opportunistic move. His polls were slipping, the focus was
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Speaker 13: getting more on the war in Ukraine on our continent,
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Speaker 13: and therefore he decided to make a brash move. But
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Speaker 13: what he has done effectively, I think is he handed
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Speaker 13: the nation's government on a silver pleasure to the le
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Speaker 13: left and center parties because he will no longer be
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Speaker 13: in government, I think after the next election, and then
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Speaker 13: we cannot realize all these fantastic points that we have
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Speaker 13: in our party program as well. You know, no family reunion,
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Speaker 13: stop on immigration. We agree with that, we supported. He
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Speaker 13: had the chance, and I think he blew it. I
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Speaker 13: think it's irresponsible what he did.
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Speaker 2: But the thing is too that he thinks, and quite rightly,
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Speaker 2: that making these sounds will make him a little more
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Speaker 2: popular than he was becoming. And we've seen that around Europe.
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Speaker 2: We've seen in Germany, we see in Italy, Britain, Swedeen, Ireland, France, Portugal, others.
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Speaker 2: I could mention the Netherlands. Of course, immigration is a
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Speaker 2: huge issue politically. How did it get to this point
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Speaker 2: where it's almost explosive in that regard.
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Speaker 13: Well, because it's difficult to tackle, and what he is
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Speaker 13: confronted with now is that it's easy to you know,
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Speaker 13: just get in front of the camera and say I'm
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Speaker 13: going to close all but then you have to do
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Speaker 13: the political handiwork.
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Speaker 1: You have to go to Europe, to the.
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Speaker 13: EU to change the rules there, to change international agreements
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Speaker 13: that we made. So it's not that easy. And of
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Speaker 13: course it's a big issue because as you showed us
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Speaker 13: before on this segment, the whole Europe is rioting terror attacks, Islamization.
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Speaker 13: There needs to be a stop to it. But especially
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Speaker 13: in the Netherlands we have a coalition government. You need
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Speaker 13: more parties to govern. It's just not just one candidate
21:31
Speaker 13: that can do what he or she wants, that can
21:33
Speaker 13: push their agenda. So you have to be able to
21:36
Speaker 13: cooperate and then well, sometimes it's a little more tricky
21:40
Speaker 13: to find your way to together make this possible. And
21:44
Speaker 13: there were also, of course in government some right wing
21:47
Speaker 13: parties that were a bit more squeamish about measures that
21:50
Speaker 13: need to be taken. But it's a fact that if
21:53
Speaker 13: we don't in Europe curb this mass immigration is uncontrolled
21:56
Speaker 13: non Western immigration, we will suffer for it economic, occulturally
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Speaker 13: and in terms of law and order.
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Speaker 2: Just look at France right now. Annabel and Naka, thank
22:07
Speaker 2: you so much indeed for your tone. Really appreciate it
22:11
Speaker 2: after the break. Kevin Rudd once promised that Labour's global
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Speaker 2: warming plants relax. He costs you just one dollar a year. Well,
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Speaker 2: the new study reveals exactly what you're really paying now,
22:24
Speaker 2: and you better ask have you been conned? This is
22:30
Speaker 2: classic frog in boiling water. How Australians have been lured
22:36
Speaker 2: gradually to this point of paying a truly insane amount
22:39
Speaker 2: of money to supposedly stop global warming. You see, I
22:43
Speaker 2: actually remember eighteen years ago when Kevin Rudd was the
22:48
Speaker 2: Labor leader pushing the great global warming scare parthage.
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Speaker 11: He is the great moral challenge about generation.
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Speaker 2: Then Rudd told Australians that Labor had a plan to
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Speaker 2: cut our emissions like twenty percent by twenty twenty and
23:08
Speaker 2: this would cost next to nothing. He told the ABC
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Speaker 2: between now and about twenty forty five that you'd be
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Speaker 2: looking at a total impact on the economy of somewhere
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Speaker 2: between six hundred and eight hundred million dollars or something like.
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Speaker 2: He said, one dollar per person per year, a dollar
23:27
Speaker 2: a person per year. Except Labor sins gradually ramped up
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Speaker 2: its targets and it's spending to something unbelievable in fact,
23:36
Speaker 2: the Institute of Public Affairs, now we should have studied
23:38
Speaker 2: saying that the albanies A government's spending on global warming
23:41
Speaker 2: is now hitting a nine billion dollars a year, without
23:48
Speaker 2: including the seven billion dollars spent on subsidizing energy bills
23:52
Speaker 2: or all the billions spent by say governments as well,
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Speaker 2: nine billion a year. Join miss Rowan Deane to a
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Speaker 2: in chief of the Spectator Australia on Outsiders and Sky
24:01
Speaker 2: News every Sunday at nine am and host of his
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Speaker 2: own show on Fridays at seven pm. Rowan for nine
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Speaker 2: billion dollars a year minimum, and that's just from the
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Speaker 2: federal government plus billionaire plus billions more from say gummers.
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Speaker 2: What actually are we getting for all that money?
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Speaker 14: Well, Andrew, I suspect that the nine billion is a
24:23
Speaker 14: massive low threshold and underestimation of what we're actually spending.
24:27
Speaker 14: Let's go with the nine billion dollar figures. Remember in
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Speaker 14: Britain they're already talking about forty to forty five billion pounds,
24:34
Speaker 14: so that's ninety ten times as much per annum that
24:37
Speaker 14: they're talking about over there. What have we got for
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Speaker 14: our nine billion? Normally if a government was spending with
24:44
Speaker 14: this sort of large s you'd have a football stadium
24:47
Speaker 14: or a new highway or something to show for it.
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Speaker 14: But what we have Andrew is ruination. We have ruination
24:54
Speaker 14: of the environment, we have ruination of our economy, and
24:57
Speaker 14: we have a ruination of our politics. And let me
24:59
Speaker 14: just explain, the ruination of the environment is absolutely catastrophic
25:03
Speaker 14: and tragic. These transmission lines, you go out and see
25:06
Speaker 14: them crisscrossing the beautiful farming land, destroying people's freehold land,
25:12
Speaker 14: crisscrossing the native bush, the wind turbines. Fortunately, Devocrits have
25:18
Speaker 14: fully blocked one of them up in Queensland. Others are
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Speaker 14: shutting down now because they're worthless. But anyway, the destruction
25:23
Speaker 14: they've done to the environment, Kowala bears being clubbed to
25:26
Speaker 14: death being the least of it. Out in our oceans
25:29
Speaker 14: as well. The destruction is not so much what's happening now,
25:32
Speaker 14: but when we have to clean up this mess in
25:34
Speaker 14: probably twenty years time, when they will be absolutely antiquated,
25:38
Speaker 14: people won't even know what they are or what they
25:41
Speaker 14: were ever for. People will be look at these weird
25:43
Speaker 14: things that have fallen down all over the countryside, impossible
25:47
Speaker 14: to decompose, cost of fortune cost farmers a fortune to
25:50
Speaker 14: clear from their land. Solar farms the same thing. The
25:54
Speaker 14: pollution of the environment by this stuff is catastrophic. That's
25:58
Speaker 14: just the environmental ruination. We've got the business and investment ruination.
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Speaker 14: We've seen mining something like eighty percent of mines or
26:06
Speaker 14: I think it's higher than eighty percent of minds no
26:08
Speaker 14: longer get approved, So a massive investment that isn't coming
26:11
Speaker 14: into the country, That investment goes overseas, meaning jobs are disappearing.
26:16
Speaker 14: We've also had obviously manufacturing disappearing. If mining, an investment
26:21
Speaker 14: associated with mining disappears. So we've seen a massive loss
26:24
Speaker 14: of big business, but also small business because of the
26:27
Speaker 14: huge cost of electricity bills which drive small businesses to
26:30
Speaker 14: the wall. Many increasing numbers of people just simply can't
26:33
Speaker 14: afford to set up that cafe or run that small
26:36
Speaker 14: business or whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: So they pack it in.
26:39
Speaker 14: So we've had the ruination of the environment, the ruination
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Speaker 14: of business, and we've had the ruination of politics. Andrew,
26:44
Speaker 14: and that's perhaps the most corrupting of all the money
26:47
Speaker 14: you mentioned. The nine billion dollars goes somewhere. A lot
26:49
Speaker 14: of it goes to China, but also a lot of
26:52
Speaker 14: it goes into the pockets of investors, and those investors
26:55
Speaker 14: have totally corrupted our political system. I believe the last
26:58
Speaker 14: election showed that we don't have a major party that's
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Speaker 14: opposed to net zero. We don't have a major political party.
27:04
Speaker 14: We only have one nation really, and parts of the
27:06
Speaker 14: Nationals and a couple of other smaller parties who oppose
27:09
Speaker 14: to this absolute destruction of our economy and of our land.
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Speaker 14: The only logical conclusion is that our politics are completely
27:17
Speaker 14: corrupted by renewables investors, to the point that even those
27:21
Speaker 14: politicians you look up to and admire are probably somewhere
27:24
Speaker 14: or other in the pocket of these sinister corporations or
27:28
Speaker 14: organizations or lobby groups or investors.
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Speaker 1: So they've destroyed our environment.
27:32
Speaker 14: They've deroyed our investment, our business life, and they've destroyed
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Speaker 14: our politics.
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Speaker 1: Not a lot to show for our nine billion dollars
27:38
Speaker 1: that we've spent.
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Speaker 2: Andrew, well, there's another corruption you haven't mentioned, Rowan, and
27:43
Speaker 2: that is the corruption of truth selling. I mean, I
27:47
Speaker 2: don't know that they're all in the pockets of big
27:51
Speaker 2: business or big green dollars or whatever I reckon. It's
27:54
Speaker 2: also that they're afraid of simply telling the truth to people.
27:59
Speaker 2: Are kids that have been indoctrinated into this thing for
28:02
Speaker 2: two generations now grown up to be young voters, and
28:05
Speaker 2: so they've fed the lives that will get politicians reelected.
28:09
Speaker 2: We are not hearing enough people telling the truth about
28:12
Speaker 2: what's really going on with the climate. I mean that
28:15
Speaker 2: is a real corruption, a cultural corruption.
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Speaker 14: And an intellectual corruption, absolutely an academic corruption wherever you look, Andrew,
28:23
Speaker 14: it's ruination that this climate change nonsense has brought.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned Kevin Rudd saying it learn the cost a dollar.
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Speaker 14: I remember as well, Paul Howe's the AWU leader at
28:31
Speaker 14: the time in Gillards, in the Gillard Rudd years, saying
28:35
Speaker 14: that if climate change policies cost one job, the union
28:40
Speaker 14: movement would be against it. He committed that if one
28:44
Speaker 14: job went, the unions would stand up against this stuff.
28:47
Speaker 14: We've seen jobs destroyed in this country. Not a peep
28:51
Speaker 14: out of the unions. It's shameful.
28:54
Speaker 2: I think they jumped down his throat after he said that.
28:57
Speaker 2: And it's no longer in politics, so maybe it was
28:59
Speaker 2: all too much for him too. Yeah. Well, Paul Howes,
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Speaker 2: if you're watching, hello to you.
29:05
Speaker 7: Britain.
29:06
Speaker 2: Honestly, at least they're seeing a bit the loader they
29:09
Speaker 2: claim to be. Can I just ask you why to
29:13
Speaker 2: show this again? I played earlier a clip from Ted
29:16
Speaker 2: O'Brien Rohan. I've got to come back to this. Isn't
29:19
Speaker 2: new Deputy Liberal leader. What do you notice about this
29:23
Speaker 2: clip of him today about to deliver his little spiel
29:29
Speaker 2: on this new tax and superinnuation.
29:34
Speaker 14: Well it's signed of some very nice wallpaper, or some
29:36
Speaker 14: very nice flags behind him, three completely separate flags.
29:41
Speaker 1: Can't help.
29:41
Speaker 14: But notice that I thought the coalition had a policy
29:44
Speaker 14: that they were only going to have one flag. So
29:46
Speaker 14: obviously that went a lot disappeared with it. And well,
29:53
Speaker 14: and we need an opposition that is an opposition, and
29:56
Speaker 14: the Australian public deserve that. If the Liberal Party can't
29:59
Speaker 14: provide then it's up to someone else to provide it.
30:01
Speaker 14: But we definitely need an opposition that opposes the cultural
30:05
Speaker 14: madness being inflicted upon us by labor and also opposes
30:08
Speaker 14: this net zero madness. That's what we deserve as a democracy,
30:14
Speaker 14: otherwise we're not functioning properly.
30:16
Speaker 1: And it was the Liberal Party.
30:17
Speaker 14: It was Sir Robert Manzie who was opposed to socialism
30:20
Speaker 14: in any.
30:21
Speaker 1: And all of its forms.
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Speaker 14: There is no way you can describe net zero as
30:25
Speaker 14: anything other than modern socialism mixed with a bit of
30:28
Speaker 14: corporate fascism. The Liberal Party must oppose it, otherwise is
30:32
Speaker 14: not worthy of the name of opposition.
30:36
Speaker 2: I think it's even more raw than that. It's anti capitalism.
30:39
Speaker 2: It's a way to the industrialized versus society, so that
30:43
Speaker 2: you know, the only healthy form of energy you can
30:46
Speaker 2: get us from rubbing two sticks together. Hey, how are
30:48
Speaker 2: we advanced? We're back in the caves. Very nice to
30:52
Speaker 2: talk to you again, Ryan, More next week, Thank you
30:55
Speaker 2: very much. After the break the end of the bromance,
31:00
Speaker 2: Elon Musk calls Donald Trump's latest move disgusting. I wonder
31:05
Speaker 2: can Trump forgive him? Elon Musk has really cut loose
31:14
Speaker 2: and savage Donald Trumps so called Big Beautiful Bill, the
31:18
Speaker 2: bill to spend even more the Tesla and tech billionaire
31:23
Speaker 2: did Ustad head Trump's Department of Government Efficiency, promising to
31:27
Speaker 2: cut two trillion dollars from America's huge deficit. Musk actually
31:31
Speaker 2: failed and now sis Trump adding to that deficit with
31:35
Speaker 2: this bill. And he posted this attack on the Republican
31:38
Speaker 2: politicians who have voted for it in the House. I'm sorry,
31:41
Speaker 2: but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous
31:44
Speaker 2: Portfield Congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame on
31:49
Speaker 2: those who voted for it. You know you did wrong.
31:52
Speaker 2: You know it well. Trump's spokesman Carolin Leavitt shrugged off
31:57
Speaker 2: Musk's attack.
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Speaker 8: This is one big, beautiful bill and he's sticking to it.
32:04
Speaker 2: Join me, is Donald Trump's first bite? Half spokesman Sean Spicer,
32:09
Speaker 2: Sean Spicer, great to see you again. Does Elon Musk
32:12
Speaker 2: have a point somewhat?
32:17
Speaker 15: I mean, look, it's a weird thing to me. It's
32:19
Speaker 15: sort of like, dude, you were in the room. I
32:22
Speaker 15: understand his frustration, right, He's done a ton of work,
32:26
Speaker 15: and I give him a lot of credit for exposing
32:28
Speaker 15: the waste in this management that exists in our federal budget.
32:31
Speaker 15: So he deserves a lot of credit first and foremost,
32:34
Speaker 15: and I want to thank him for that, and for
32:35
Speaker 15: his service and the continued effort of dog. But I
32:39
Speaker 15: understand the frustration of working that hard and then watching
32:43
Speaker 15: the government deficit rise and the size of government rise.
32:46
Speaker 7: I share that concern, but I think that.
32:49
Speaker 15: Unfortunately, the way that our Congressional Budget Office scores the bills,
32:55
Speaker 15: it's a wonky, stupid way in which they look at things.
32:59
Speaker 7: They don't take him to consideration growth.
33:01
Speaker 15: Unfortunately, the way that our process works over here doesn't
33:03
Speaker 15: allow you to enshrine some of the cuts that DOSE
33:07
Speaker 15: found into the overall score that they give it.
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Speaker 7: So it's an all around frustrating procedure.
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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering. Musk and Trump have been extremely close.
33:18
Speaker 2: I'd say, Sean, you might correct me here, but no
33:21
Speaker 2: one did more than eli Must get Trump elected, no
33:24
Speaker 2: single person with his donations, with his campaigning, with his
33:28
Speaker 2: posting on X which he owns. Where do you think
33:30
Speaker 2: this relationship is going now?
33:33
Speaker 15: So there's two points to this, Andrew that I think
33:35
Speaker 15: are important. Elon Musk enjoys what we call with Britain
33:39
Speaker 15: a special relationship. Trump doesn't just look at it in
33:43
Speaker 15: as some staffer or some supporter that raised money. He
33:47
Speaker 15: knows he's the richest man in the world, one of
33:49
Speaker 15: the most successful business people that's probably ever existed in
33:53
Speaker 15: terms of the breath and depth of the companies that
33:56
Speaker 15: he has been around. So there's a level of respect
33:58
Speaker 15: that most other people well, and the Trump orbit don't enjoy.
34:02
Speaker 15: On the other hand, you and I both know this
34:05
Speaker 15: that when you have a friendship with somebody, you know
34:07
Speaker 15: I've always told people. They say, well, President Trump doesn't
34:10
Speaker 15: like people pushing back and or, and I said, this
34:14
Speaker 15: is simply not true. How you do it matters. And
34:17
Speaker 15: I think it doesn't matter just to President Trump, but
34:19
Speaker 15: I think any two friends or business associates would respect
34:24
Speaker 15: the way that another colleague shares their concerns or displeasure.
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Speaker 1: What have your criticisms?
34:30
Speaker 15: And I, for one, I don't like the way that
34:32
Speaker 15: Elon's doing this. The way he's handling himself could use
34:38
Speaker 15: a little bit of refining.
34:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you might have made assumptions. There is
34:44
Speaker 2: sean that Elon Musk has friends. I think the way
34:48
Speaker 2: he's built, I'm not sure how strong a friendship gene
34:53
Speaker 2: is in his body that we shall see on immigration,
34:57
Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 15: You may be right on that. He No, I think
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Speaker 15: you're right. I mean, look, I don't. I think you're right.
35:04
Speaker 7: I think that, And when you're that, I think he's
35:06
Speaker 7: a brilliant man.
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Speaker 15: He's a successful man, and I don't think he viewsed
35:11
Speaker 15: those relationships the same way.
35:13
Speaker 7: Maybe you or I do.
35:15
Speaker 2: No. No, I think that's both of us are tiptoeing
35:18
Speaker 2: around there, and I think we're both correct on immigration. Sean. Look,
35:24
Speaker 2: it's such an issue around the West now, as I'm
35:27
Speaker 2: discussing on my show tonight, the Dutch government has just
35:30
Speaker 2: collapsed because of it, latest symbol of just how it's
35:34
Speaker 2: convulsing the West. I'd say that Donald Trump won the
35:37
Speaker 2: election most of all by promising to stop the massive
35:41
Speaker 2: flood of illegal immigrants flooding across the Mexican border. Had
35:44
Speaker 2: huge success there, but it seems that many in the
35:47
Speaker 2: media left still don't want to acknowledge what is actually
35:51
Speaker 2: done or appreciate it, leading to this again from Carolyn Levitt.
35:56
Speaker 8: Here she is the Washington Washington Post just ran one
35:59
Speaker 8: of the most ridiculous headlines ever, even by their standards.
36:03
Speaker 8: And on my very first briefing several months ago, I
36:06
Speaker 8: said I would hold anyone accountable in this room. The
36:09
Speaker 8: Washington Post actually had this headline, the mysterious drop in
36:13
Speaker 8: FETANL seizures on the US Mexico border. How is this mysterious?
36:18
Speaker 8: There is no mystery about why there is a decrease
36:21
Speaker 8: in fetanyl coming into the United States. This administration's strong
36:24
Speaker 8: border policies are the reason there has been a decrease
36:27
Speaker 8: in fetanal trafficking. His strengthened relationship with Mexican President Shinbahm,
36:32
Speaker 8: and all of the measures he has been taking to
36:34
Speaker 8: deter illegal human and drug trafficking at our United States
36:38
Speaker 8: southern border is the reason for plummeting fetanyl seizures at
36:43
Speaker 8: the US border. There is nothing mysterious about.
36:45
Speaker 2: That, suld Spice. How critical do you think immigrations plead
36:49
Speaker 2: to Trump's selection we How is some mainstream media dealing
36:52
Speaker 2: with it?
36:54
Speaker 15: I mean, first of all, just the notion that the
36:56
Speaker 15: Washington Post is like, you know, I don't know how
36:59
Speaker 15: this possible happened, left ventanyl coming into the country after
37:02
Speaker 15: you close down the border. I mean, I just it's
37:06
Speaker 15: sort of you know, I can't There are days in
37:09
Speaker 15: which they continue to defy the stupidity that exists by
37:14
Speaker 15: saying things like this. It's like Jake Tapper writing a
37:17
Speaker 15: book about not knowing about.
37:18
Speaker 7: Biden's cognitive decline.
37:20
Speaker 15: I mean, it's there's a level of gas lighting, as
37:23
Speaker 15: the kids like to call it, where you're like, you
37:25
Speaker 15: literally don't think we have night after night, story after
37:28
Speaker 15: story about the border clamp down, about sending illegal aliens
37:32
Speaker 15: out of the country and making the border security a
37:36
Speaker 15: number one priority. And the Washington Post is the anasty
37:39
Speaker 15: to say, Gosh, I don't even know why this ventanyl
37:41
Speaker 15: stuff stops coming in. It's because not only is it
37:44
Speaker 15: coming in from our southern border through Mexico, he's made
37:47
Speaker 15: it a priority with China and talking about tariffs, some
37:50
Speaker 15: of the tariffs in direct response to how they're letting
37:53
Speaker 15: the ventanyl flow. He's also made it an issue at
37:56
Speaker 15: our northern border. I just the Washington Post continues to
37:59
Speaker 15: really show people how out of touch they are. But
38:03
Speaker 15: the broader issue, Andrew, is this is look, the President
38:07
Speaker 15: made a commitment. And the thing that fascinates me in
38:10
Speaker 15: this country about this is for the longest time, Barack Obama,
38:15
Speaker 15: Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi made border security an issue. It
38:19
Speaker 15: wasn't a Republican thing, a conservative thing.
38:22
Speaker 7: It was an American thing.
38:24
Speaker 15: This was an issue because it touched on so many
38:26
Speaker 15: communities in a way that another issue might only singularly touch.
38:31
Speaker 15: You're talking about crime and safety, economic issues all wrapped
38:34
Speaker 15: up into one single issue.
38:35
Speaker 7: Border security.
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Speaker 2: Look, I don't think the LIFT will be in a
38:43
Speaker 2: healthy position in the West unless it takes these issues seriously.
38:47
Speaker 2: It stops writing them off as some sort of five
38:52
Speaker 2: right wing racist whatever it is. National identity counts shown
38:57
Speaker 2: Spice to thank you so much indeed for your time.
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Speaker 1: Always a pledge ranger.
39:01
Speaker 2: Thank you. After the break back far Anthony Albanese's new
39:08
Speaker 2: recruit in trouble already as an ex staffer threatens to
39:11
Speaker 2: sue Anthony Albanese. He thought it was smart this week
39:17
Speaker 2: to invite a rat into Labor, and now it's backfired.
39:21
Speaker 2: The Prime minster Let's Senator Derinda Cox, joined Labor after
39:24
Speaker 2: she defected from the Greens, not caring that she's a
39:27
Speaker 2: rank opportunist who faces allegations of Bullinger's staff. Now Labour
39:31
Speaker 2: didn't actually need another senator to get things through the Senate.
39:34
Speaker 2: And I actually thought that Labour hated rats. Maybe a
39:38
Speaker 2: rat is only a rat if it's going not coming anyway.
39:42
Speaker 2: Albanese has caused the immediate strife for Labor with this
39:45
Speaker 2: because Cox was being investigated for alleged bullying after reportedly
39:51
Speaker 2: losing thirty staff in just three years, and today one
39:54
Speaker 2: of Cox's former staffers s the Montgomery said she and
39:57
Speaker 2: others were considering legal action against her.
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Speaker 4: We have had no option but to form a group
40:05
Speaker 4: of ex staffers and go down the legal road that
40:08
Speaker 4: will follow Derinda into the Labor Party because it is unfinished.
40:14
Speaker 2: Said what they've been leaded needed now having to defend
40:18
Speaker 2: from the get go a recruit from allegations of bullying staff,
40:23
Speaker 2: including female staff. Now Cox has said context has needed
40:27
Speaker 2: to these claims. In Albanizi on Monday claims, oh, it's
40:29
Speaker 2: all history.
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Speaker 7: Those issues were dealt with appropriately.
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Speaker 10: They were all dealt with in Senator Cox's case and
40:39
Speaker 10: dealt with appropriately.
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Speaker 2: The Cox's former staffer says it's simply not true.
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Speaker 4: Well, I haven't been dealt with.
40:47
Speaker 7: The party hasn't dealt with it at all.
40:49
Speaker 4: They bought in an independent investigator in terms of contacting
40:53
Speaker 4: all the staffers, inviting us to come in, let's sit down,
40:57
Speaker 4: let's parlay. That has never ever happened to staff as
41:00
Speaker 4: we have not had any closure.
41:03
Speaker 2: Joining me are two communications consultants, Jimmy Toninievsconi is regular
41:08
Speaker 2: and Chrissi McSweeney, who's worked for coalition prime ministers and
41:11
Speaker 2: Premiers Jemmy, Whye earth did Alberanezi think that Labor needed
41:15
Speaker 2: Torenda Cox?
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Speaker 16: Who knows what goes on in the Prime Minister's mind, Andrew,
41:20
Speaker 16: I don't know the answer to that. He, as you
41:23
Speaker 16: quite rightly point out, he didn't need her, doesn't need her.
41:27
Speaker 16: Perhaps it was ego. I have no rational strategic idea
41:31
Speaker 16: why he would have accepted her into the fold. In fact,
41:34
Speaker 16: the first thing that I thought when I saw that
41:37
Speaker 16: news breaking, isn't that the senator with all the bullying
41:39
Speaker 16: alli allegations against her? Isn't that the senator who has
41:43
Speaker 16: been accused of terrible behavior against her staff, and those allegations,
41:47
Speaker 16: as I understand it, are not resolved at all. So
41:50
Speaker 16: I'm not quite sure how this is going to play
41:52
Speaker 16: out for the Prime Minister. I think it might be
41:54
Speaker 16: a bit of a thorn in his side for a
41:56
Speaker 16: time to come.
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Speaker 2: So strange is that, Christie? I mean, why would you
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Speaker 2: want someone that comes right away as Labor having to
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Speaker 2: defend some with these allegations against her.
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Speaker 12: Look, I don't know. There must be some strategy behind it,
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Speaker 12: because she's not needed for any vote carrying numbers whatsoever.
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Speaker 12: She's not needed to bolster their component in Western Australia.
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Speaker 12: She's not needed, certainly not needed. The Labor Party, as
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Speaker 12: we all have seen for the last two to three years,
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Speaker 12: has made a significant issue around gender and around workplace
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Speaker 12: safety and around the behaviors towards women in Parliament House.
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Speaker 12: It's a big glass house and I have happened to
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Speaker 12: live in it for the best part of twenty years,
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Speaker 12: and so I don't know why Labor, being so strategically
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Speaker 12: clever as they are, off the back of this huge majority,
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Speaker 12: would take on somebody with these allegations still presiding over
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Speaker 12: their reputation. And we can see today the Coalition hasn't
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Speaker 12: even had to prosecute this argument. The staffers themselves are
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Speaker 12: doing it and to my knowledge they haven't been stopped
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Speaker 12: for any legal reasons, so they are carrying on using
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Speaker 12: their voice as they are entitled to do.
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Speaker 5: Well.
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Speaker 2: It's going to make Albaneze look like a hypocrite because
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Speaker 2: he was the one that was prosecuting Scott Morrison for
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Speaker 2: allegedly letting Parliament be so unsafe for women in their workplaces,
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Speaker 2: and even got up in Parliament himself and said sorry
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Speaker 2: on behalf of the Labor Party to all those women
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Speaker 2: you know who didn't feel safe here and we didn't
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Speaker 2: listen to them. And now straight off the bat. I
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Speaker 2: don't get it, I really don't. But I think Jemmy,
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Speaker 2: you were right that it is another sign of his ego.
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Speaker 2: I've seen about three of them now since the election win.
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Speaker 2: A too shocking story. Well, I find it shocking. There's
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Speaker 2: a Jewish natural healer. I don't go for all this stuff,
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Speaker 2: but she does, Sharon Tale. She's been disinvited from Melbourne's
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Speaker 2: Mind Bodies Spirit Festival. She's been going to these things
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Speaker 2: for a decade, you know, putting up a little show
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Speaker 2: herself there. But she's been disavoted because a pro palison
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Speaker 2: in healer calling herself a birth dueler and a death
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Speaker 2: walker accuser of genocide, simply for writing in a biography
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Speaker 2: that she's spoken at charity events, including one for WESO,
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Speaker 2: the Women's International Zionist organization which helps women in troubled youth.
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Speaker 2: The head of the organizers told Charentale, your involvement has
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Speaker 2: unfortunately attracted significant public reaction. We believe this may pose
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Speaker 2: a risk to the safety and well being of not
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Speaker 2: only our staff, visitors, but also yourself. They're very generous there,
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Speaker 2: thinking of her as well as the overall reputation of
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Speaker 2: the festival. Gemma your reaction.
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Speaker 16: I would sue them out of existence if I was her.
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Speaker 16: I mean, it's not a very sort of like healing
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Speaker 16: journey to go on, is it really?
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Speaker 7: But if it was me, I.
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Speaker 16: Would go I would know because it's the only language
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Speaker 16: these people, these cowards understand. I would get myself a lawyer,
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Speaker 16: and I would go for the juggular because this is
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Speaker 16: just you know, this is what if it's not anti semitism, Andrew,
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Speaker 16: what is it? The only reason she's being excluded is
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Speaker 16: because she is a Jew. That is the only reason
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Speaker 16: she's being excluded. That cock and ball, you know answer
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Speaker 16: about oh you're not safe and nobody's safe. Try again,
45:23
Speaker 16: just try harder. That has just such a tired, dishonest,
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Speaker 16: cowardly answer. So yeah, I don't feel particularly zeno about it,
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Speaker 16: particularly sort of like my charkers are probably all out
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Speaker 16: of balance or whatnot. But lawyer up, lady, they don't
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Speaker 16: care about you. Go for it, That's what I do.
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Speaker 2: I love that. Less healing and more smiting. I'm really
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Speaker 2: don't get this thing. Christy the overall reputation of the festival.
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Speaker 2: Why would that be hurt by including someone who simply
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Speaker 2: spoke at a charity event for the Women's International Zonis Organization.
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Speaker 2: I have too look what they.
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Speaker 16: Do, Andrew, I have also spoken there.
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Speaker 2: Well there you well, I mean seriously, did you see
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Speaker 2: them organizing money for guns or something? I mean they
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Speaker 2: help use in need and women's programs. So how does
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Speaker 2: it hurt this mind, body, soul thing to have her there?
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Speaker 2: When I think they should be ashamed and vilified and
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Speaker 2: hurt for disinvading a Jewish lady.
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Speaker 12: Well, those should be exactly right. And of course it's
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Speaker 12: a fine organization, fantastic charitable organization in Australia which does
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Speaker 12: amazing work and anybody would be very happy to go
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Speaker 12: and speak and attend their events. But this organization, I'm
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Speaker 12: going to attack this from two points. One, that statement
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Speaker 12: that you had up there on the graphic was from
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Speaker 12: the managing director of the Events and Exhibition Conference Association
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Speaker 12: of Australia. I've worked in tourism events for a long time,
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Speaker 12: airlines tourism organizations with Tourism Australia. This organization is significantly
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Speaker 12: misguided and opens themself up to, as you say, litigious action.
47:13
Speaker 12: By putting that statement out, whoever is advising them to
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Speaker 12: do so, is wrong and I don't think that they
47:21
Speaker 12: are doing the right thing by speaking on behalf of
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Speaker 12: the entire events in conference and exhibition sector in Australia
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Speaker 12: by issuing that statement. Secondly, the accusation or the reasoning
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Speaker 12: behind this woman no longer being able to attend, is
47:36
Speaker 12: that people will feel unsafe. All those people who feel
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Speaker 12: unsafe are largely a vocal minority of ill informed people
47:44
Speaker 12: with little understanding of political events current or past, and
47:49
Speaker 12: simply are using their activist power to stand upon something
47:55
Speaker 12: that they believe for whatever reason they should be standing upon.
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Speaker 12: In regards to somebody's attendance at a conference, it's wrong
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Speaker 12: and I think this woman has been singled out for
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Speaker 12: no other reason apart from her ethnicity as a Jewish.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, if someone wrote to that organized and say, well
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Speaker 2: I don't feel safe being there to have that Jewish
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Speaker 2: woman there, I think the answer should be then you
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Speaker 2: don't come. Not tell the Jewish lady she can't come,
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Speaker 2: You don't come. Gemntini, Christian Ninsweeney, thank you very much
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Speaker 2: to you both thank Honestly, that's how that's how great
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Speaker 2: evils get done, because people don't have the guts to
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Speaker 2: stand by a victim and they instead aside, you know,
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Speaker 2: stand by and let the perpetrator go. That's it from me,
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Speaker 2: showing marts next. Good night,