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Jill Zarin’s Ultimate Girl Trip, BravoCon and more · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: The car is beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Where did you end up going for it? This exclusive
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  Speaker 2: place that Dad has connections with.
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  Speaker 1: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 3: You have to put me in touch.
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  Speaker 4: What's it called?
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  Speaker 2: It's Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 4: Where?
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  Speaker 1: Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 2: There's an accent on the E.
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  Speaker 1: Do you mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 4: Lift?
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  Speaker 1: Please. Are you going past Kimmage?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 6: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 7: When you're on the road, when you're on the go,
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  Speaker 7: Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales,
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  Speaker 7: her real-life business, and good serial data and serial sisters.
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  Speaker 2: Listen in, listen up. Woo, woo. Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I'm so excited to
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  Speaker 1: tell you guys you can get your tickets now for
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  Speaker 1: June 17th at my beautiful winery show. It's at heathermcdonald.net.
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  Speaker 1: Justin Martindale will be joining me. There are two shows
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  Speaker 1: at 530 and 830 and there is a meet and
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  Speaker 1: greet available for both of the shows. So get your
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  Speaker 1: tickets now. It will sell out. It will be a
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  Speaker 1: delight and it'll be really fun. I am wearing this
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  Speaker 1: shirt that says Scary Island. You probably are wondering why.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because I got it from Jill Zarin.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: She and her daughter Allie were in town in L.A.
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  Speaker 1: at the end of last week, and I went to
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  Speaker 1: her hotel room, and we set up the cameras, and
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  Speaker 1: I had questions for both of them, and it was
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  Speaker 1: really a great, juicy, fun interview. And now... Here for more,
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  Speaker 1: and oh, and you can get Scary Island t-shirts, all
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  Speaker 1: of their products. You go to, she's going to explain
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  Speaker 1: it later, but there's a discount, a juicy discount for
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  Speaker 1: you at 15% off at Jill and Allie's website of
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  Speaker 1: all their cool stuff. But now for a very juicy
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  Speaker 1: interview with Jill Zarin and her daughter, Allie Shapiro. Hello
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  Speaker 1: and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 8: We are out in the field at the One Hotel
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  Speaker 8: in the world-famous Sunset Boulevard with Jill Zarin, who would
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  Speaker 8: have thought, and her gorgeous daughter, Allie Shapiro.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to LA, girls, and welcome back to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: I am so excited to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Allie, are you not happy?
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  Speaker 2: I'm so excited. And by the way, can I just
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  Speaker 2: make a side note that about two blocks down is
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  Speaker 2: the office, the infamous office of Selling Sunset, the Oppenheimer Group.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Just thought I'd give you a little fast fact for
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  Speaker 2: those watching on Sunset Boulevard. I think Heather should walk
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  Speaker 2: in and do a little strut. Oh, yeah. In her
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  Speaker 2: head-to-toe Louis Vuitton. Oh, I think so.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, who knows who's really working there? Nobody.
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  Speaker 2: I've walked by there many times. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: the windows on the outside are blackout. Isn't that weird?
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  Speaker 2: Is that weird?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they probably don't want people like you putting
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  Speaker 1: your nose up to the window.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, but I don't think it's new. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it's new. I think they've always had blackout before
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  Speaker 2: they had a show.
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  Speaker 1: No, listen, they film it like they have their filming days.
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  Speaker 1: That's why nobody has anything on their computer screen. Nobody's calling.
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  Speaker 2: Do they film literally in there or do you think
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  Speaker 2: they film in a stage set?
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  Speaker 1: No, I think they film in there. You do? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but that day, like, no one else is there.
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  Speaker 3: They knock it out.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: They bring other outfits and all of that.
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  Speaker 2: They are the most gorgeous, beautiful. Those people should be
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  Speaker 2: on Beverly Hills, too. Like, they are so gorgeous.
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  Speaker 1: They probably will be.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure Christine. Oh, my God. Can I please talk?
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  Speaker 2: You know, she says she doesn't have a stylist. She
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  Speaker 2: does it all herself.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it.
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  Speaker 2: I do, too. No, no, she's got this incredible style. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so envious of girls like that. I really am. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I want to follow them for a day and see
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  Speaker 2: how they put themselves together. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: She has a lot of money and she's super skinny.
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  Speaker 2: You could have a lot of money and have a
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  Speaker 2: nice style.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. That's true.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to do lots of questions for you guys. Allie,
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  Speaker 1: what a life you've led. At the age of 14,
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  Speaker 1: you were thrust into the limelight.
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  Speaker 2: For better and for worse.
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  Speaker 1: And, I mean, one of the things I loved, and
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  Speaker 1: I've talked about this day many times, is when we
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  Speaker 1: were with Gloria.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Gloria was very diet conscious and a little critical
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  Speaker 1: of how Jill was looking in her tennis court, tennis,
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  Speaker 1: tennis outfit. And we get in the car leaving the
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  Speaker 1: country club. And, um, and you're like, look, Allie, what,
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  Speaker 1: you know what? That's what my mother was like.
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  Speaker 3: Aren't you lucky? I'm not like that.
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  Speaker 1: And you're like, mom, you put me on a reality
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  Speaker 1: show and sent me to a fat camp when I
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  Speaker 1: was 14 years old.
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  Speaker 2: That wasn't true. Allie kind of true. It wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: fat camp. I went to one of those too. So
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  Speaker 2: I also went to a fat camp that was not
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  Speaker 2: on TV. Okay. That was true. That was true. In
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  Speaker 2: California also. Camp California Fitness.
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  Speaker 1: It's true.
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  Speaker 2: It was a fitness camp.
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  Speaker 1: Was it fun?
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  Speaker 2: Was it fun? I'm sorry. Not a fat camp. A
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  Speaker 2: fitness camp. It was a fitness camp to teach you
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  Speaker 2: how to work out so you'd have a lifetime of
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  Speaker 2: health and fitness. And guess what? You have a personal
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  Speaker 2: trainer every day. Because I still have weight issues. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Not because of weight issues. You like the way I
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  Speaker 2: thought you did because you feel good.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think you look great.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. You look beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: Um.
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  Speaker 3: Now, okay, we have some of the things.
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  Speaker 1: Now, someone said, there has been a lot of talking
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  Speaker 1: about housewives' offspring being the next generation of housewives.
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  Speaker 3: As you see, Gia of.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: On Real Housewives of New Jersey.
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  Speaker 2: She's like a sub-star, right? Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, she's 21 years old. She looks gorgeous. She
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  Speaker 3: has her attitude with her nails and everything.
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  Speaker 1: And so, what if there was like a next generation
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  Speaker 1: or maybe they do.
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  Speaker 3: Ooh!
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  Speaker 5: Hello.
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  Speaker 1: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I thought the same thing. You guys should
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  Speaker 2: do a week.
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  Speaker 1: Together on a trip, girls trip, with the offspring of
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  Speaker 1: the different franchises.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that they should be the future housewives. They
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  Speaker 2: could be future housewives. But a little stick your toe
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  Speaker 2: in it kind of a thing. So it would be
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  Speaker 2: like you, who else could we get? You and Avery
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  Speaker 2: for sure. For sure.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, then other franchises.
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  Speaker 2: Luann's kids aren't going to do it. The OC kids
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  Speaker 2: I feel like are big. Oh, see, Caroline Manzo's kids
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  Speaker 2: might do it. The boys.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, you get a couple boys.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be, oh, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: Or do we want all girls?
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  Speaker 2: Vicky's kids are too old.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, it should be all girls. Okay, I'm changing my mind,
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  Speaker 1: and it should be all girls.
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  Speaker 2: The daughters and their moms, or just the kids?
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  Speaker 1: Just the kids. do like, I don't know, a three-day,
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  Speaker 1: maybe just like a three-day intensive weekend.
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  Speaker 3: And of like in questions.
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  Speaker 2: How about therapists?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, therapists.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, like a VH1 in one of those shows.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and like where they show clips.
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  Speaker 2: And are like, how traumatic was this?
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  Speaker 1: And we definitely have to have Gina Kino's daughter on there.
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  Speaker 3: Kara, right?
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  Speaker 2: She's been through a lot.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of the OC people.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's not a great idea.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think it would be great.
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  Speaker 9: I think me and Avery have a lot of history. Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: definitely Gigi and Bella.
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  Speaker 2: Their careers started on Housewives. It's true.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no offense, but Gigi and Bella are not going
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  Speaker 3: to do it.
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  Speaker 2: I know that. Sorry.
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  Speaker 9: I'm too good for it, too. I think if it
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  Speaker 9: was a few years ago, out of college, I would
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  Speaker 9: be very against it. But now I feel like our
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  Speaker 9: whole brand, everything I do now, stems from.
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  Speaker 2: This world, so. Right, Ali respects the fact that it
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  Speaker 2: came from this world. Yeah, and I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: different world today with, like, social media and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Some people do.
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  Speaker 2: Who, some, who are the people?
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  Speaker 5: Well, who?
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  Speaker 2: Well, like you just said, like, the Gigi Hadid's, like,
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't do it. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Well, they wouldn't do it because if you're making, like, $ 50, 000
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  Speaker 1: a day, maybe you don't want to, like, block off
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  Speaker 1: a week. I get it.
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  Speaker 3: To do something that's not paying that much. It's not, like,
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  Speaker 3: a snobby thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, like.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think they really were, like, house, even
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  Speaker 2: though they got, they, I think their fame started out. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: what about Delilah? They were on a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Delilah.
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  Speaker 2: They got their careers also started. I'm not saying they
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't have had it by the way.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see them probably a little bit on Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Did you read today? Somebody sent me an alert. What?
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  Speaker 2: Was it you? Who sent me a note? Oh, it's
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  Speaker 2: probably Patty. Patty always sends it. What is it? No,
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  Speaker 2: it's probably not news. That Kathy Hilton didn't invite Lisa
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  Speaker 2: Rinna and Jane. What's her name? Erica Jane to her
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  Speaker 2: birthday party. And, like, they'll never talk again or something
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  Speaker 2: like that. Something came out, some story.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't even know how much Kathy Hilton's going
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  Speaker 1: to be featured in this season at all.
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  Speaker 2: Something bad happened. I don't know what.
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  Speaker 3: She's not in the first episode.
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  Speaker 9: No?
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  Speaker 1: Don't mean to brag, but I saw it.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, thanks for sharing. When is it coming out,
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  Speaker 2: the first episode? The 11th. Oh, you got it real early. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it real early.
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  Speaker 1: Is it good?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 3: It's super juicy.
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  Speaker 2: I remember when they were filming, if you go back
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  Speaker 2: in your memory, because you have a much better one
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  Speaker 2: than I do, she wouldn't sign in the beginning. Remember?
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  Speaker 2: She wanted more money. Right. So that's why she's not
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  Speaker 2: on in the beginning. Oh, good point.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Do we agree?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably right.
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  Speaker 2: So she comes on as soon as she signs. But
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  Speaker 2: something happened, right?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do a couple of what would Jill do.
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  Speaker 1: What would Jill do if her friend overly facetuned all
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  Speaker 1: of her pictures on Instagram?
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  Speaker 2: Whose pictures?
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  Speaker 5: Mine or hers?
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  Speaker 1: Would you say anything or would.
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  Speaker 3: You leave her own?
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  Speaker 2: Would you say anything? The girl who posted it. Her pictures,
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  Speaker 2: not my pictures.
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  Speaker 5: You have a good friend who is popular on Instagram
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  Speaker 5: that overly facetunes her photos.
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  Speaker 1: Do you say anything?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And what?
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  Speaker 1: What have you said to Patty?
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  Speaker 2: No names. P.S. P.S. I told her that and she
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  Speaker 2: shooed me. Like, you know, I don't talk about him.
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  Speaker 2: And move me on. She denied it? She didn't deny it.
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  Speaker 1: She said it. Remember, I brought it up.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't deny it.
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  Speaker 3: We went to her house.
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  Speaker 2: She likes it, and she's all good with it.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: We went to her house, and we took a photo,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to?
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  Speaker 3: And please don't vote.
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  Speaker 1: She made Jill look like a completely different person.
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  Speaker 3: Like, her whole smile changed. And I'm like, what are you?
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  Speaker 3: I go, come on, Patty. What's the deal? And she goes.
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  Speaker 2: She goes, I enjoy it. I like it. It's my thing.
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  Speaker 3: She knows the world knows that she overreaches.
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  Speaker 1: Can I show you one?
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  Speaker 2: And it makes her joyful. So, whatever.
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  Speaker 9: I will say, though, there's a 99% chance that mom
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  Speaker 9: sent her that app to use.
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  Speaker 2: Because mom loves those apps, too. I do. Not as bad,
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  Speaker 2: but she loves them. But she looks great anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she's really pretty. She's really pretty in person.
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  Speaker 1: Great legs. Good body.
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  Speaker 2: Great body.
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  Speaker 3: But that app just, like, elevates it.
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  Speaker 1: So, okay.
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  Speaker 5: Um.
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  Speaker 1: Is there something that Jill would have changed in her
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  Speaker 1: approach to Allie's weight? Let's get back to that one.
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  Speaker 1: Is there something Allie would have wished her mom had
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  Speaker 1: changed or said differently?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you're fine today, but going back.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 9: We never really had that much of a healthy lifestyle
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  Speaker 9: in general. Like mom eats Diet Coke and ice cream
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  Speaker 9: every day, including today.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was frozen yogurt.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, frozen yogurt. Went to Kith today and had five
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  Speaker 2: Diet Cokes.
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  Speaker 9: So I think in general, if you want your child,
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  Speaker 9: I'm an only child, so there's no other evidence of
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  Speaker 9: anyone else. I think if you want your household to
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  Speaker 9: be a certain way or a child, you have to
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  Speaker 9: have your whole household be that way. We never were
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  Speaker 9: that active or healthy.
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  Speaker 2: Which is why the best thing I really ever did
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  Speaker 2: was to send you to Martha's Vineyard because Allie was forced,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to say learned, forced, if she wanted
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  Speaker 2: to survive, To drink all that green juice. Okay, but
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  Speaker 2: that's not. And you know what? Allie eats healthy because
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  Speaker 2: of that. But that's not realistic. Because I couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: For once a year. I couldn't provide it.
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  Speaker 9: But for once a year for me to go away
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  Speaker 9: to a camp and come back 10 days later and
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  Speaker 9: lost 20 pounds and then.
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  Speaker 2: Gain a back.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I'm saying like right now. That's
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  Speaker 2: what happened.
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  Speaker 1: No, no.
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  Speaker 2: But if we went downstairs and there was a green
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  Speaker 2: juice there, you would have one because you like it.
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  Speaker 2: I would never eat that. Yeah, but you made me
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  Speaker 2: go to a camp for them to teach me how
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  Speaker 2: to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So at least I did something right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Why?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if I can't give it to you, I
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  Speaker 2: tried to provide it for you. Right. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I did.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. We all do the best we can, right, moms?
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  Speaker 1: No, my biggest regret, I will say this, and I've
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  Speaker 1: said it before on the show, my biggest regret as
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  Speaker 1: a mother is that I didn't force my kids to
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  Speaker 1: eat better. I went to this parenting class and they
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  Speaker 1: were like, You know, it was this weird, like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: pick your battles.
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  Speaker 3: And, like, if your child, you know.
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  Speaker 1: If your child doesn't like what you're serving dinner, have
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  Speaker 1: a drawer of, like, healthy snacks or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: And you say, okay, you can have that.
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  Speaker 1: And so I kind of was like, yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to. The minute my sons would, like, push back,
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  Speaker 1: I was like. This could be the last day on earth,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't want to spend it fighting over carrots.
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  Speaker 1: You should fight over the carrots. You should do all
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  Speaker 1: those things that people say to do, where you make
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  Speaker 1: your own baby food, and you make them eat what
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  Speaker 1: you're eating, because a baby has to try it like
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  Speaker 1: five times, and then they get into it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's that philosophy, but I'm going to give you
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  Speaker 2: the other philosophy, which is, Allie was a very picky eater.
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  Speaker 2: She was the kid who would only eat mac and
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: cheese and all this stuff when she was very, very young.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: I thought she would never eat a vegetable, and you
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: know what? She grew up, and now... On her own,
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: I don't eat sushi. She eats sushi. She eats tomatoes. Over.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: She started to pick things up as she got older.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: She just, kids do.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: My kids.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe they haven't gotten there yet.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: My kids are like starting to try different things.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: They're still young. Give me 10, give them 10 years.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: But literally, that is my biggest regret as a parent.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: So should you send them to the Martha's Vineyard Detox Center?
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: That's the question.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: No, I would not send them to the camp.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: I did send my son to two weeks Catalina camp
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: and he did end up liking it, but it wasn't
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: about food. They let him eat like burgers and stuff,
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: but he was horrified that he wouldn't get to take
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: his phone with him. And he was so mad. He goes,
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going to send you to mom camp where all
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: you do is drink.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: Wine and chop on your phone.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, everyone's like, can we go to the bread?
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Can we go to the bread and mom camp? Like
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: he just thought it was such cruel, unusual punishment.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Well, on the East coast, all children between the ages
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: of eight, and 18 go to camp for eight weeks
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: with no phones so rich kids can't be every kid
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: not every kid no no a lot of kids there
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of kids.
• 14:36
  Speaker 9: Just more common than it is in the west coast
• 14:38
  Speaker 9: i know and and definitely definitely yeah the kids don't
• 14:41
  Speaker 9: usually go no.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I would yeah definitely and that's where you get laid
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: right the first.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Time that's where you learn how to make a bed
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: but allison or get in it ally didn't stay long
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: enough to learn how to make a bed You go to.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: Camp and you learn how to make a bed?
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, they have inspection. And if you don't
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: pass inspection, you don't get to go to the state
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: camp and get ice cream.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: And what is this, $ 5, 000 a week and your kid's
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: living on a cot? They have to.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Do the laundry, they have to make their own beds.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: That should be the next Bravo series, actual camp. Hello,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: I want to pitch it. Adults going back to camp.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: That's my idea.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: All right. What would Jill do if her friend was
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: dating or was engaged to a guy she thought was bad.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: For her friend? probably keep my mouth shut.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Now the Jill now keeps her mouth shut or has
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: the Jill in the past not kept her mouth shut
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: and realized because of that experience it's better to keep
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: your mouth shut I don't.
• 15:36
  Speaker 9: Know Allison how have I been um would you tell
• 15:42
  Speaker 9: someone if you don't like them I feel like.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know am I honest Or do I hold back?
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: It depends on the person.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I think it does.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: If you're not that good of a friend, you know,
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: you just like, yeah.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: But if it is, if it is a good friend,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: like for me, let's say I'm part of Real Housewives
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: of New Jersey. Okay.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: And I would just say.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: To Teresa, I would be like, absolutely get married, do
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: all this stuff, but just be very careful with like
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: compiling up and making sure.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: That you have an exit strategy in case you're in trouble.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Your businesses, your money, uh, a post-nup needs to happen,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: a prenup and then a post-nup needs to happen. All
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff because you have four daughters and
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: because you're a business woman yourself, not, I would say
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: the way to not.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Be negative towards him.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I would say that to like any of my friends, um,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Even if they were marrying the greatest guy on earth,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, you're a 50-year-old woman.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: You have your own money.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: You have kids that are depending on inheritance and stuff.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: So, you know.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: You've got to protect your children.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't make it about the guy.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I also think slow down. I mean, there's so many marriages.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: You know, celebrities are the ones you hear about where
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: they rush to Vegas and they get married in three months,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: two months, one month, and then they end in divorce.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Just at least date someone a year. Give yourself four.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I always say you have to have four seasons with
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: someone to really know. They are ins and outs before
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: you should jump in. You can get engaged, but just
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: don't get married until you're four seasons in.
• 17:10
  Speaker 9: I don't remember if you spoke about it or not,
• 17:12
  Speaker 9: but that woman that was on the Housewives of Orange
• 17:14
  Speaker 9: County that married Joe Biden's nephew.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: And she was so happy and in love. And it
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: was amazing. And then a month later, they're divorced. What happened?
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: That was terrible.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: What she has.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Said was, I think she said, yes, she rushed into
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: it and she didn't really know him.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: And I don't think he really.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: understood what it was going to be like to suddenly
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: be a father of three little kids.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: And one of them is disabled.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: One has special needs.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: And just to have three little kids is a lot.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: And so I think she just checked it off as like,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Just a random mistake.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you can make a random mistake
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: like that, but okay.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I know. I mean, what are you going to do?
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: And now Jim Edmonds has announced that he is marrying.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: She's either wife number four or five. I can't remember
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: if Megan was four or three. But anyway, this next wife,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: she's like close to Megan's age because they were friends.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: They had a threesome.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: That's how they met. What?
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: She did threesomes?
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: She did a threesome with Jim and this girl. And
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: then this girl.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Came back around or whatever, and now they're madly in love,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: and they're getting married in Italy with all his kids
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: from his three different wives.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: What I remember with her is that she sniffed out
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: the whole Brooke cancer story.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Faking?
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: She sniffed that out, and I thought she was a
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: terrible person when I watched it. And, of course, in hindsight,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: it was the best thing. That's someone who actually called it, right?
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: She did. She could have kept her mouth shut. But
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: she thought he was bad for Vicki and tried to get.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Him away from her. Do you know what time we
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: were hanging out at Shannon Bedore's house with Vicki and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Brooks and my husband Peter was there.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: And this is before.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Anyone thought he had cancer and they were dating and
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: nobody disliked him.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Okay. This was like a long, long time ago. And
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Peter asked him how old he is, and he tells
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: him how old he is, and Peter's like.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: No way, you're so much older than that.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Peter?
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: He's not an aggressive person at all.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: No, he was, like, joking, but just really, he was, like,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: giving him shit, but the guy.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: How old did he say he is, 30?
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: No, he said he was, like, 49, but Peter just
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: thought he looked a lot older.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: And was Peter right?
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: No.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Peter was wrong, but Peter was wrong.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I think he was right.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Brooks got out his.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: His birth certificate and i was like oh my.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: God like we're trying to be friendly with these people
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: like what.
• 19:36
  Speaker 9: Anyway so peter said something was off though maybe it
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: wasn't his age but something was off i guess.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: No peter didn't think it was off peter's just can
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: be inappropriate.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: There's a case where megan did and guess what no
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: good deed went unpunished she was the mean girl that
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: season but she ended up being right. Who would have thought?
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yes. Well, I'm obsessed with any story that's about lying
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: about illness.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or free
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: click and collect.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: So easy.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: filed against me.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: what would you do if it was given back?
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I need a home dad.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: What happens next?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: When I came in, he started crying.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: happens next.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: every day was.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: You're worth the work.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: You can use your voice even if it shakes.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Okay what would you do if you're at a dinner
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: yes and you were talking to your friend you're being
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: aggressive not aggressive.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: But you're being direct being myself you're being.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Direct and she got up and she didn't flip the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: table but she pushed and smashed all the drinks onto.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: You onto me well other people got wet well i
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: don't know if you deserved it but you were she
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: you were just fighting you were just fighting and she
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: smashed the drinks one spilling all over your boobs Would you?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I'd be in shock. I mean, I don't think I'd
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: get physical because I've never hit anyone. I've never touched
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: anyone in my life. Believe me, I've thought about it,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: but it's never happened. I'm not physical. That's true.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: In all of your years of being on Housewives, what's
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the closest you've ever come?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Never.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: What was your fight with Alex McCord? You were in
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Brooklyn High School. That was a bit of a fight.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I just realized.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Have you ever? Have New York women never gotten physical?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You guys might be the only franchise that has never
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: gotten physical.
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: I feel like Dorinda might have thrown a glass or
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: something like that, but not really physical, yeah.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Congrats.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Classy ladies.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: They've fallen on each other.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: But I mean in an aggressive way. They certainly have
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: used their words, but that's it, you know?
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: That's true. We're classy. We're the classy group.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: never hurt me. That's what they say in New York.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Have you had any recent run-ins with Ramona since she
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: ignored Gary? What's the latest?
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Well, the latest from that day is we went to
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: a mutual birthday party in Miami. Yes. And I knew
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: she was going to be there, and it was either
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: going to be ice or ice cream. That's a good expression, right?
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Either I was going to get ice or ice cream,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: meaning she was going to be either cold or delicious, right? Yeah, okay.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Ice or ice cream?
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Shucks.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's get to it.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, go.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: So it was delicious. It was great. And we got
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: up and took a picture together and posted. And I
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: sat at the table. There's about six girls. And I said,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting across from her. And I said, Ramona, I
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: have to tell you something. I don't know if you've
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: heard about this yet, but I was on Heather McDonald's show.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: And I shared with her that you slammed the elevator
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: door on Gary and it wasn't very nice. And I
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: told her. And she's like, doesn't remember it at all.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Exactly the way you said it. And I told her
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: what happened. And I said, you really have to listen
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: to the episode because Heather was spot on that I'm
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: apologizing to her at the end. You're going to die laughing.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: So I think she knew about it, but she said
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: she didn't. I think she had heard about it.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But she wasn't mad or anything.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I can't believe the only time I met her was
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: at your event in the Hamptons. And you're like, let's
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: get a photo with all the girls. And you had, like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: girls from the.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Canada.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Melbourne. And, yeah, you had all the housewives. And we
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: were standing around the pool and.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: About 20 of us.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And you're like, and then, oh, and then you go,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: get Heather MacDonald in here, too.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Because I said, she's an honorary housewife. With all the housewives.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: And Ramona's like, who's Heather?
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Who's Heather MacDonald?
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Who's Heather MacDonald?
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: And I think she had heard my, like, heard about me, whatever.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: And.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: But, you know, I met her. And then I had
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: met her once before.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Of course, she doesn't remember. When she was with Mario
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and I was doing that show in the Hamptons. And
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: we went on that. It was like the day after
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Fourth of July. We went on a big yacht party.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: And she and Mario had gotten back together. And we're
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: very romantic before the final divorce. And she was like,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I'll sell a lot of tickets to your show.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I'll get a lot of people to go. I have
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: a really popular Twitter. And I could actually put a
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: post out there about it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And she was being really nice. But I was like, actually,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: it's already sold out.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: But that's very sweet of you to offer.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: That was nice. Yeah. And no, no, we're good. In fact,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: she texted me this week. And she wanted a new
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: rug for her room, bedroom in her apartment in my building,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: in her building. And she likes to remind me it's
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: her building. And I said, absolutely. You know, she said
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: she'll post. That's nice. She commented on mom's Instagram saying,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: welcome to my building of three years.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Wait, so Ramona had been in the building.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: For three years? Yes. So mom moved into Ramona's building. Yeah,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: but what Ramona doesn't know is that Gary was there first.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Gary was there before. And then Mario came.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: And Gary and Ramona went on a date, right?
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: They did. You were Gary.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: They did. My Gary took Ramona out on a blind date,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: and then I guess they went on another date. Ramona
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: invited Gary to be her date at someone's bar mitzvah,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: and he went. You know, it's free pigs in a blanket.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Gary doesn't miss a meal.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Did they ever make out or anything?
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: No, he swears nothing happened.
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: I swear.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: And she also says nothing happened.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: And so what did he say? It was just not
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: a love connection?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Just not a love connection. But as mom would say,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: she could take him. Huh? What do you mean she
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: could take him? She can have him. She can have him.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: But no, but you know, she said something very nice. No,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: he said she said something very nice about me on
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: that date, which is that she really loved the relationship
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: that Bobby and I had. That she was envious of
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: that relationship. Because it was after she had left Mario.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: And, you know, after he did that really, really, really
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: shitty thing to her.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Called getting somebody else pregnant, that kind of thing.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Wait, but the girl didn't have the baby, right?
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. And who knows if that was even true.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: But there was a girl. The whole thing was shitty.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: She didn't deserve it.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: No matter how bad my relationship was with Ramona, never
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: deserved that. I would never wish that on anyone. No. No, but,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: you know, they're in a good place now.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Remember the psychic from Morocco?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I think we talked about that last time. Oh, how
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: could I forget?
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Did she tell you anything, God? The psychic?
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: No. Nothing I remember.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: No.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was all about her. I mean, when
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: she said that your husband's thinking of another woman, it
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: was like, are you kidding me? It is so wild
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: out of the 14 years. I feel like Morocco and
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Scary Island still go down as the best. Most memorable.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Most memorable trips, memorable episodes. Things that people talk about.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: In all houses of history.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I know, because Luann being like, you came down here.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: In her mother's shoes. Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes, darling.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was like, you're a Louis Vuitton.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes, darling. Oh, my God.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, you went to Luann's cabaret.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Did you enjoy it? It's beautiful.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: You all looked really cute.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I always enjoy Luann's cabaret.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: And not only was I there, I was there and
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Teresa was there that night. And I had brought Phaedra
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: with me because we had just filmed for the Ultimate
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Girls trip some stuff. And it was phenomenal. The fans love, love,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: love Luann. And Luann loves her fans.
• 28:19
  Speaker 9: And Gary hit it off with Teresa's fiance.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, Louie.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Louie.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I have to tell you, I had a great first
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: impression of Louie.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I said?
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: The thing is, on the show, and I said this
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: on my podcast recently, I said, you know, we only
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: saw him being very sweet to her, having fun with
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the guys, showing up. And yeah, there were moments when
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: he had to defend himself. And I never think, and
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: we never saw Kim get heated.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: About defending himself.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: We saw her get heated, which we've known has been
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: a personality trait of hers for years. So I'm like,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a bummer because there probably
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: was other footage maybe where he was like being kind
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: of more, a little more gregarious or delightful. Well, they
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: got him at the end.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: They did when he said, let's go in the last episode.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm saying that we didn't get to see
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: that much of, Like, his personality.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Like, they spend so much on the.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Other guys and how funny they are and how they
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: get along. Like, they cut it in a way to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: keep us guessing about him, which I can see why.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Because there's still a mystery.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: But I'm sure he is very nice.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: To me now. I'm going to tell you something. I
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: really had a good time that night. He's very smart.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: He's extremely successful. He's very generous. He loves her. They're
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: holding hands. You know, they're engaged now. Like, they've been...
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: together over the year and you know and that that
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: the pheromones disappear a little bit you know even if
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: you're together they're still holding hands and lovey-dovey it's beautiful
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: and i don't blame her for being in that love
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: bubble i felt part of her bubble and if somebody
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: came in my bubble i'd be pissed too i'll tell
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: you i would are you in a love bubble a
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: what yes Yes, I am.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Beautiful.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: As much as I hate him every day.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: What would Jill Zara do if she found out her
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: fellow castmate was a cult leader who enticed members of
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: her church to remortgage their houses to contribute to the cause?
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: She would join it. That was on another show.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: That was Real Housewives of Salt Lake.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Mom loves cults. You love a good cult. Well, I
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: don't want to be part of one, but I am
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: obsessed with them.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: There you go. Have you ever had a friend that
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: you felt was getting into something that wasn't right?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I had a friend who was in one. Which one?
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: The famous one in California.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Scientology?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, wait.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Didn't I meet this woman?
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: It was not named names. No names.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I can't remember her name anyway.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: But she left. But I'll be honest with you. I never,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: ever asked her to leave. Not for me to ask.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I never thought that she... I didn't think it affected
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: her in a negative way as far as my interaction
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: with her. that I was obsessed with it. I always
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: wanted information about it. I was curious about it. We
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: got Dianetics. We got the books. We got the DVDs.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: So she sent it to me. I never watched anything.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: But I was obsessed with questions. I was just so
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: curious about the whole thing. But she ended up leaving.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: She went all the way through the program, spent millions
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: of dollars, and she left ultimately and found something else.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because when you get to the ultimate thing,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to like.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I think she was disappointed.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're supposed to go on a spaceship and meet
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: these people. Really? Yeah, and then the spaceship never comes,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: and then they go, well, you just need to redo
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: these courses, and then you'll get to the.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it didn't work out so well.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: That's what I've heard.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: But she doesn't have any hostility there. There's no dead bodies,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: so to speak.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Allie, you know that there was a lot of talk
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: about you being de moi.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Can you talk on that, please?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I love Dumas. Big fan. Big fan.
• 31:49
  Speaker 9: I think I liked it more when it was mostly
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: focused on influencers, more relatable people.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Now it's kind of like everyone, every A-list celebrity is
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: on there. Is it like Chris Hilton? I hate to
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: confirm that I am not Dumas. So don't confirm it.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Just don't confirm it. Deny it, but don't confirm it.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Well, she just denied it. She just said she's not Dumas.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I think everyone knows that I'm not Dumas. No one
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: actually thinks I'm Dumas. Except these two.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Girls in the middle of the storyline. Do you know
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: who Dumas is?
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I don't, but I've spoken to Dumas a lot. We
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: have DM'd frequently. Oh.
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: But I don't know who they are. I feel like
• 32:24
  Speaker 9: it's two girls maybe. And they're based in the West
• 32:27
  Speaker 9: Coast is what I've heard. But I've not asked them
• 32:29
  Speaker 9: who they are.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I'm having a deja vu of that show. Bridgerton. Yeah.
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Kind of like Lady Bridgerton. Oh, okay. No, no, not...
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Lady Bridgerton is the person that does the.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a gossip play.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but her name isn't Lady Bridgerton. No, what was
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: the name of the character?
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Who cares?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Listen, I will say I.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I DM'd with Dumas a little bit just because there
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: would be a couple things that was written about me
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my God, I'm dying. I'm
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: so flattered. And then she started a podcast and I
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: was a guest on it. I'd listened to the podcast
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: prior and she does this voice thing so that you
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: can't hear, you can't detect her voice.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Almost like you.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Were like a mafia or whatever.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Witness protection.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: And so I, listening to the voice before I spoke
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: to her in person, not in person, but on a
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Zoom audio, I thought, Oh, I wonder if she's actually
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: a guy. Yeah.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: But then when I did the interview.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's Perez Hilton again. No.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: When I did the interview, it was just a normal
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: sounding 30-something girl in my opinion.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, so you did hear her voice.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I heard her voice regular because then I think after
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: they record it, then they put that voice thing on
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: her voice. To me, she just sounds like any white
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: 30-year-old girl.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: If I had to guess.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Not, no, not.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: No accent.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, not New Yorkie or anything.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: No, just kind of like normal, like hip voice.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: But anyway.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, big fan. Sound like Angie Wong. Yeah, not me.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Jill, what would you have done at the Seder dinner
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: on Real Housewives of New York with Ramona and Ebony?
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Do you remember it?
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Not really. I just remember them peeing. I just remember
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Sonia peeing outside in the driveway.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: That was bad. Right.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Have you gone to Sonia's comedy show?
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Not yet, but I'd like to. I reached out to her.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I wished her congratulations. And what did she say?
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I'm really happy for her.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: She said thank you, and she's going to be back
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: in New York next week, and I have it on
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: my calendar to call her. I actually wrote it down
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: to call her when she's back. I'd like to see her.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen her in a long time.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Jill, are you watching OC?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Of course. What would you do about Noella? What do
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: you think her deal is? Allie, you can chime in, too.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: She doesn't belong on that show. She doesn't fit in.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I think she's too quirky. Yeah. I mean, I just
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: think the whole, I think the whole idea of Orange
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: County is this kind of white vanilla, you know, lady,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: housewife with, you know, 2.2 kids and whatever. I mean,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: that's what I kind of fantasize about it. That's how
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: it started out with Vicky and whatever.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: With Behind the Gates.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole thing. And I'd like to keep it there.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can make another show.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Sure. Sure.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: But I think that she just has an alternative lifestyle.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I think the guy she's bringing to the table absolutely
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: does not fit in with Heather Dubrow's husband, Dr. Dubrow.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, you mean the new guy she's dating?
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with the tattoos from head to toe. I just
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: don't think that's the style of the show. And I
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: think she's isolated on an island. Nobody likes her. I
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: did meet Bronwyn and her new girlfriend, Vicka Trillian.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, talk about that. Love a late-in-life lesbian story.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I never met Bronwyn at any point, like before. I
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: never met her.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I met her very briefly at BravoCon.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Did you like her? Yeah, I mean, the husband was
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: really happy. I mean, they love.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Being famous.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: They just loved people seeing them. It was like outside
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: of the building where there was like your stuff and
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: like the museum.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep, the main building.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: So people, not the one where the panels were, the
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: other stuff.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: And they were just.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Like, and they were sweet to me, but I mean,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: they just, yeah, they thoroughly loved it.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: They love being famous. They seem really, really happy together.
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: Uh, Vicatrillion, I don't know her real name, Victoria, I guess.
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: Vicatrillion is her Instagram name.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: She's a model.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Um, but she was great. They seem in love, happy,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: like super genuine. Like I saw it firsthand. That's the
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: weird thing. She's like six children. I know. But she
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: spent most of her time in New York and Miami.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: So who's raising her three and four year olds?
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: So what I've read is, is, in the interview she's given,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: they do the nesting thing.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: So they have one house in Orange County.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, so she lives in a venue.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: So he's there with the kids for like 10 or
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: 12 days.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Taking them to school and stuff. While she lives a
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: single lesbian life.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: In New York.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: A childless lesbian life for 10 or 12 days. And
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: then she goes there and he goes somewhere.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: And his mommy, he goes away. Yeah. Well, I think
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: her mom was very... hippie-ish. I guess she was raised
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: that way, too.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: That was one of her storylines of how hard it
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: was that her mom had her very young. First, the
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: mom was in a band and would bring her mom
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: to the troubadour and put her on the corner of
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the stage at 8 and she'd be there until 2
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: in the morning or whatever and then go to school
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the next day. Then the mom was like, you know what?
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go to medical school. Which is really unbelievable.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Then the mom went to medical school and And again,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: she felt sort of abandoned.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's not like a chapter. That's like years. Yeah.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: But then the mom met a much younger man and
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: had two kids that are like, I don't know, 18
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and 22 or something. Wow.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: But they're still together.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: She and the younger man are still together.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Not with her father.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: And so then, but it is kind of interesting to
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: see like Bronwyn's life. A major change, and then, like,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: because everything she said is, like, everyone should be authentic,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: and everyone should do what they want to do and
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: live their own life. And it's, like, fine, but you
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: do have, like.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: You brought it to the world.
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: I mean.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's only been six months they've been together, but,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, they seem really happy.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Well, why did she ever, she met her in New York.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Why did she come, why did she have to come
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: to New York?
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: To begin with.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Like, if you were going to live separately from your husband,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: why wouldn't, and you're going to do the nesting thing,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: why wouldn't you get, like, a small condo and that
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: you'd switch off?
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Or even San Francisco's a lot closer. Yeah, she made
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: it seem like.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Well, why would you have to be, no, but, yeah, exactly.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: If you wanted to, like, have a whole new, like,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: gay vibe or something.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean.
• 38:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, she said she was very, she felt very, like,
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: separated from everyone else in Orange County from that lifestyle.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Right, because it's a very white vanilla. Yeah.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: But it's not.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: That's just such bullshit.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what she was saying.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Well, like, those aren't the only people you have to
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: hang out with that have cast me. It's like, there's
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: definitely gay people in Orange County, and there's definitely different people.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't say there aren't.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I know, but, like, I hate that when people act like,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: because that's, not you, but I'm saying, I hate when that's,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I hate when that's, like, when someone's saying that, like,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: nobody what do you want people knocking on your door every.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Day right hi hi we were.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Going to buy you lunch but then we heard you
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: were a lesbian so.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Now we're not like it's like bullshit.
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: New york is very different from orange county in general
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: she was looking for a change but yes well.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: There's clubs and there's access yes.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: In new york you're going out every night and orange
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: county is suburb does.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Orange county have a gay club life at all like
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: to meet people yeah laguna's gay Oh, I didn't know that.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Laguna's pretty gay.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I'm a Long Island Jewish girl. I have no idea.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: What's in Laguna. Yeah, but, you know, whatever.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: So she went to New York, and they met in
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: New York, huh?
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: And then do you know that she has 15 orgasms
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: a day each lasting 10 minutes?
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I'm jealous. That's a very busy day.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: It's a very non-productive day.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: How long do they last? Nothing lasts 15 minutes.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: No, 15 orgasms each lasting 10 minutes.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I've never heard of an orgasm lasting 10 minutes. There's
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: no way it lasts 10 minutes.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: It's 150 minutes.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: 60 seconds.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Divided by 60 minutes.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: So what is that? Three hours of boning.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: It's a good thing your kids aren't there.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, anyway.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: What would Jill do if Kanye was her son-in-law?
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'd be so happy.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: In what sense? Well, I'd love to give advice.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Well, what's your advice?
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: He needs a lot of advice. I definitely want to
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: be his therapist. Dr. Jill. First of all, he's so
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: freaking creative. You know, there's so many great things about Kanye.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: He is. He's like a genius.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't care if you walked into Ali's.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: House and she had a daughter and the daughter could
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: only wear black or cream clothes and the whole house
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: was cream. She couldn't have any Christmas decor... Well, she's Jewish, but.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what's fact from fiction from that
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: whole story. I really don't. I don't know what happened there.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Well, the fact is the house was all cream and candy.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: But then she liked it.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I know, but you wouldn't feel like she influenced.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: He.
• 40:51
  Speaker 9: Was very controlling and had OCD in general, so I
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: think he wanted things a certain way.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the problems in the marriage. I
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: saw a clip... When you say it like that as
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: a son-in-law, I didn't think of it that deeply as
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: being like the father of my grandchildren. Well, I mean,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I think... It's like, you know.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I think Chris is really good about staying out of
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the daughter's relationships until they need her.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: I think she always supports it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: There's not enough time.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: She's got so many.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: But I think she always supports it.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: She always is like, good, have a baby, get married,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: we love you, come to the Christmas party.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, very inclusive. Da-da-da-da-da.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: So then when it does fall apart, it's not like
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: she's ever going to have that I told you so moment.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: So.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: So I guess you wouldn't be either.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Listen, how could she be a judge either? You know
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: what I mean? She's had her own issues and her
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: own marriages in life, so she's not judgy. Yeah. She's not.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: True that.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Not judgy.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Oh, Jill, have you gotten an invite to
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: do BravoCon 2 yet?
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Nope. Has anyone? Yeah, Heather, have you gotten an invite
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: for BravoCon 2? Yeah, she's my plus one. What are
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: you talking about?
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: No, but I'm going.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: I'm going. You're always my plus one.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: No, I'm going.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Are you not invited?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't get invited. I don't plan on. I
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: hope I get invited, but I'm going no matter what.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Good. Oh, so not as my plus one. You're going
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: on your own.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: No, I'm going as your plus one.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Just checking.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Are you going as a plus one?
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I'm going to help you sell your stuff.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: You better whore me out. Hello, Beverly Hills Housewives. Here
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: we are. JillDarren.com. I have much better swag this time.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Last time I had nothing to sell. I was just
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: like promoting my rocks.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Had a couple of books. Was really just selling myself.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I honestly, during, I mean, COVID was so much up
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: and down. There was times where I was like, you
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: know what? They're never going to have it again. They're
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: going to use this COVID as an excuse. But now
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I feel that like, now that COVID is really done,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: like pretty, who knows?
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: But, Now I think it's going to be really fun.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: It's going to be at the Javits Center. I want
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: to show the one that's a Bravo one.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, show me your product. It's fine.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Ally's like, no, no.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, Ally, come on.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Pour it out.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: So unwrap it, bitch. You'll love it. By the way,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I took your advice. I just want you to know,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to show you pictures tonight at dinner. Well,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: we talked about our candles last time I was here.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: And you gave me some constructive advice.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: This one is, oh, that's Future Reality Star, but we
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: have one that says Final Rose. What does it say?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Final Rose Material. Isn't that great? Final Rose Material.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: To give your girlfriend or to give your mom Final
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Rose Material. I love it. And then we have merch.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: You know what's so cute with these is that you could,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: for like a bride, to give to her bridesmaid, she
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: could like Future Reality Star to one.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. you know, final rose material, such a great bridesmaid
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: to get the bride.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Allie, wait, show them the other ones. The crystal one.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Don't be bad. Anyway, so we're doing a whole bunch
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: of neutrals.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I have a question why she gets this.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: What would you do if your ex pooed in the
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: bed a la Amber Turd?
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, so do you see that color is more home-friendly?
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: She has to bring it out.
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: Look.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Look. Don't worry about it, sweetheart. It's more home-friendly. And
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: we're making it smaller, the words.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: They're going to be smaller.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: And this smells really good. It has crystals in here.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: And it has crystals.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: When it melts down, you have the crystals. Yes. Oh,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: this is really good. Argarwood. It smells really good. It
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: smells very like meditation.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: But the color, you see the color is gray, and
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: it goes in a gray house.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Wait, Jill, I asked you a question. What's the question?
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: What would you do?
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: You heard about Amber Turd leaving a turd in Johnny
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Depp's bed.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, so disgusting. I didn't hear that.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's part of their trial. What would you do
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: if your significant other shit the bed?
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I'm very spiteful. I mean, I would take that shit
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: and I would like do something with it worse.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Jill, you don't remember that this has already happened to you?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, it was It was Ginger. It wasn't Gary. Dog
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: poop is different than human poop. Dog poop is like
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: this and, you know, yeah. But you know what? Ginger
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: couldn't get off the bed and she shit on Heather's head.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: It's not Ginger's fault. R.I.P.
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: Ginger.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: We weren't Fisher Island and Carol Chris house.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: R.I.P. We were sharing a bed with Ginger.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: And Ginger, the bed was like up to here and
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: she couldn't get off. So at least she didn't jump
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: suicide like this one. Bossy's so stupid, she just suicides
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: off the bed and breaks a leg. I'm Patty Stanger's bed.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I'm Patty Stanger's bed.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: So the answer, what would I do? I would be
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: very spiteful, and I would probably take it and put
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: it in someplace really bad. Like, I'd probably put it
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: in his wallet.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, like, or, yeah, like, leave it for a week later, fine.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would really.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Hide it well for him. I mean, it would be everywhere,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: and he would never forget it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is a good one.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Jill, what would you do if Allie started dating a
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: man who was 20 years her senior?
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: My son-in-law? My future son-in-law? Is his name Elon Musk?
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: No, just any guy.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Well, it can't be just any guy.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, how old are you, Allie?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: 29.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Have you ever dated someone in their late 40s?
• 46:09
  Speaker 7: No.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I tried to get her someone even 10 years older.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I think Allison needs, or I'm not going to say now,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: but there were times when I thought... I'm currently dating
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: someone that's younger than me, so... Right.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: How much younger?
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: 27.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: That doesn't count.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: It doesn't count.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: It's still younger. It is younger. No, that's the same.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: At this age, it feels younger. But, you know, Gary's
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: two years younger than me.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: That's nothing.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Would you say 20 years older now? If you told
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: me the wrong person, at 33, I was with somebody
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: who was 50. I liked an older guy.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: So, you know, if you asked me if Allie fell
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: in love with someone who would give her children and
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: was 20 years older and she loved him and he
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: loved and adored her, it would not bother me. Because,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: you know, life is fun. I agree.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Do you have any advice for Lala at this time
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: in her life? That was another question.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Lala needs to get healthy. I haven't spoken to her.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I should have called her this trip. She needs to eat.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: She needs to give herself nourishment because she's taking care
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: of her baby. Because she admittedly stopped eating because she's,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: you know, going through all this, you know.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen her in a couple weeks, but yeah,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: she did get very thin. Yeah, she was definitely, I
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: ate with her.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: We ate.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Good, good. That's all, because she said I couldn't eat.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: She was in shock. I got that.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, but I think she'll get it. She's doing better now.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I adore her, and she needs to forestall, if that's
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: a word, men right now. She needs to take care
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: of her shit. and see where it falls, whatever that
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: may be. Um, I wish I could be a mediator
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: for her. I do. I wish I could, you know,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I could give her the gift of mediation because she'll,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: she'll go broke. He'll go broke. And at the end
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: of the day, they'll end up where they're supposed to
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: end up anyway. So, um, I just hope for the
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: baby's sake that, you know, she has a relate ocean
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: should have a relationship with her father and her mother.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: But in this case, I do think that the mother
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: should have physical custody and that he should not, and
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: he should have visiting, you know, visitation. I think I'm
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: a big, strong believer that children should be brought up
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: primarily in one location. For them. It's best for them.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: To go to school and get out of bed five
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: days a week in the same bed. I think it's
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: selfish when parents say two weeks. Monday, Tuesday, you're at
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: my house. Wednesday, Thursday. And you wonder why your kids
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: can't find their shit. And their homework is left here.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: And this and that. It's like so disruptive. And I
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: grew up in one house and one bed. And I'm
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: all fucked up with stuff. Can you imagine if I
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: had to live in two locations all the time?
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: You know, it's hard because especially in California, they're very
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: much about 50-50. And I agree that the dad should
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: have the rights too.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: But you're right. You have to think about what's best.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: What's best for the kid?
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Because I just saw a TikTok and this mom was like,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I just asked my son this.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Like, what was the hardest time in your life?
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: And he goes.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: When you and dad had the thing where I had
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: to split the week.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Of course, it's hard.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Because now they had worked it out that a kid
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: was at the house the whole week.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: And then, like, you know, or whatever.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: And that's easier once they're older, too. Because once they're older,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: the dad's like, hey, buddy, can I take you to dinner, like,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: on Thursday?
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: And the mom is like, no problem.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Right, the truth is, right, let's be real.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: But when they're babies, it's hard.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: When they're little. And their friends, too, though, are going out.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: Right, no, no.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: And so when they're little... their life is revolved around school,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: a little bit of homework, dinner, and bed. So if
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: a husband's working a full day, a full job and
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: coming home, if he's lucky at five or six or seven.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: All he gets are the leftovers. He gets the bath
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: time and the hardest part, putting him to bed. So really,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: what did you get out of that? What you did
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: is you tortured your kid now because now he's going
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: to not remember that he left something at home or whatever.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: It's just torture, and it's about ego. It's always about
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: the parents. They like me more. The baby wants to
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: be with me. I feel so guilty that we're divorced
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: that I have to be with you half the time
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: because otherwise I'm not doing my job. If I don't
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: fight for half, then I'm a bad father. No, fight
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: for doing the best thing for your kid. And then
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: you'll have a healthy child and a great relationship when
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: they get older. I'm a really strong advocate. And you
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: know what? Allison's father never fought me on that. And
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: he had 50. He could have had whatever he wanted.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: You know, I was very open. And he said, Allie
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: needs to sleep in your house every night because that's
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: the best thing for her. And I will come to her. Yeah,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: when he moved to Jersey, it would have been much
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: more difficult for me to do Monday, Tuesday in his house.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: But legally, he had the right to. He didn't do it.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: We talked about it. That wasn't best for Allie.
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: So speaking of your juicy story last time you were
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: on about your donor family.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: By the way, she only talked to you about that.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: You know that. You broke a huge story.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: It was everywhere. I'm going to.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Just remind people really quickly of the story.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Update.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: How you found out later on, and we won't get
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: into how you found out. You found out only a
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: few years ago, right?
• 50:45
  Speaker 9: Yep, that my mom and dad used a sperm donor
• 50:48
  Speaker 9: to conceive me. And then we found out the sperm
• 50:52
  Speaker 9: donor that they chose wasn't actually the one that was used.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Correct. So the sperm bank mixed up the donor. Luckily,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: it didn't affect me at all that.
• 51:01
  Speaker 9: I know of because at the end of the day,
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: I'm still my mom's child and whatever.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: And we found him. His name is– I won't say
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: his name.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: So you found the correct one.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: We found him. We found the correct one.
• 51:11
  Speaker 9: However, I have not met him yet, but I have
• 51:13
  Speaker 9: met my half-sister through him.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: And do you like her?
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: She's great. We've hung out a bunch. She actually saw
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Gary in the street.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, you've hung out? Really?
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Hung out a bunch. She lives three blocks away from
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: my mom and Gary.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: She moved to the city?
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Why didn't you invite her over?
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: And is she your half-sister through, because you're both, because
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: of the sperm donor? Oh, not like his actual child
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: that he's raised.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. He's never, he doesn't have any children.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 51:39
  Speaker 9: It's all sperm donor children, and there's about four other
• 51:41
  Speaker 9: girls we know of, but I've only met this one.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: And she's great.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Does she look like you?
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Not really. Not really.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: She's tall.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: She has the eyes. She's blue.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: And so have you guys only talked over the computer
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: or have you talked on the phone?
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: No, we've met in person. The dad, I have not.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: The dad, I've only emailed.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: And do you have any desire to meet him? Or
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: does he have any desire? What's the holdup?
• 52:04
  Speaker 9: I think he has a desire because he's asked me
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: a few times to meet. I don't really because I
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: feel like I'm pretty fulfilled in terms of dads and.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: There is my dad. There is Bobby. There is Gary.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I wanted to meet him. Yeah, mom wants to meet him.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Ask him all the questions. I was like, no. I
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't really have a strong desire to.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Is that weird?
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: So the mix-up, it wasn't someone they chose, but it
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: was someone that was like a popular donor. Like he
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: had all the assets.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: People were choosing him as well.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: We have no idea. We think it could have been
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: just a mistake.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Well, at least it wasn't the doctor.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: You know, that's happened.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes, it has.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: The story with that fertility doctor in Texas, he got off.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Impregnated everybody.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: People would think they were choosing some California medical student.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was the doctor.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was the doctor.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: But who knows? I mean, the sperm bank could have
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: been choosing this guy for a reason. We have no idea. Wow.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, here's a good one.
• 53:04
  Speaker 9: That's my number one Google alert, so anyone Googles me.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Who is Ali Shapiro's dad?
• 53:10
  Speaker 9: Ali Shapiro.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I love it. How would you feel, Allie,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: if Jill, your mother, was killing it on Instagram and
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: TikTok by dancing in her bedroom in just her underwear?
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I think there is someone that does that now.
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: But she has a hot body. She has a hot body.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: If you have a hot body. If I had a
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: hot body. And could dance. And I could dance. I
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: think it'd be great. I think it's really funny. It's
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: not like you're nobody. She's got great rhythm. I know
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: you're talking about LR. She's got. Everyone knows who we're
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: talking about. Yeah. LR. She has the sickest body. She's
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: got great rhythm. Great dancer. Was she on Dancing with
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: the Stars?
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Yes. She should have won.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Her body's ridiculous.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Ridiculous.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: And I think her face is just stunning. I know
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: she's had a lot of work done. I don't care.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: She's a beautiful girl.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I love her face.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: And I love her personality.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: And I love her lipstick.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I'm wearing it. So am I. I'm wearing it. The
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Lisa Rinna lips.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, it's the best liner.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: It is, because it rolls, and you don't have to
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: sharpen it.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: You never have to sharpen it.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: It's a liner, and then the lip, and then this
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: gloss on top.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: It's really good.
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: I think anything a mom can do that's authentic and organic,
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: and you can post it yourself, would.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Make me very happy. Yeah. So if you want to dance...
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: And you're a t-shirt and underwear. That's fine. Okay.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Um, what would you do? This is for both of
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: you ladies.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: What would you do if you're on a sprinter van
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: and it was surrounded by Homeland security to arrest one
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: of your friends slash castmates? Well, you saw that in
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Salt Lake.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I might be looking for a future husband for Allie
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: if he's hot.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, like the Homeland security guy.
• 54:53
  Speaker 9: Every single person she meets that's decently good looking. She goes,
• 54:56
  Speaker 9: are you single?
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that's what's on my mind. I believe that. Um,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: I would be, you know, I'd call my sister, Judge
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Lisa Wexler.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, and ask her.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: What's going on?
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: You would get the scoop there.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: What do you think is going to happen with Jen Shaw?
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I think she's gone to jail. Yeah. What happened? She
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: didn't have a case?
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: No, I think it's like set for October or something.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: They moved it to October?
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, or maybe it's July. It's July or October.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Can you just look it up?
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: What do you think is going to happen?
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: I think she's going to get time for sure.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Real time in jail?
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Real time.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Like five years. I was going to say like six.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: But it's a first offense. Wow. It's a first offense.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: It's not. There's a lot more to it. It's not
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: necessarily the first offense. She kind of was caught for
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: doing it before. Oh. And then like figured a different
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: way to do it.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: She was arrested for that?
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: I think she'll get six years, but end up doing
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: like two and a half.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: As of March 10th, it was perspective July.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: July.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I wonder why.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Right around the corner.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Let's see. And I know they're filming right now.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: But you can imagine how she doesn't sleep at night.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't sleep at night not knowing.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: That you're going to be in jail.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: She is sleeping at night.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: She's, like, dancing around having the time of her life.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: She's sleeping at night.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: She's in long, long lines.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Does she have stressful moments, like, when she has a
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: meeting with the, you know, attorneys or whatever? But then
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I think she almost, like, compartmentalizes it and is able to, like,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: you know, go, it's amazing, and sell all her stuff
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and dance and have fun. And she was, like, up
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: on– she was doing some dancing with some person– Um,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: who was she with?
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Do you have any friends on the show? Do you
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: know what's going on there?
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Listen, I'm just saying she can still have a good time.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Does she have some really hard moments? Does she cry
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: at night and freak out? I'm sure she does, but
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: it's not like she can't have fun as well. And
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: she should, she might be in jail for six years.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: She should freaking be dancing.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: No.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: What happened to the, um, what?
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: No.
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: Lotto.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: She was dancing with Lotto.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: No.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: What happened with the one who didn't come back? What's
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: her name? Mary. What happened to her in the church?
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: I think the church is gone.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: You think it's gone? I went to the church. It's
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: all boarded up. It's over with.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: She might have moved the church.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: There's so few people left that are into this church.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: You think so? Yes. People have done the research that
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: it's not even like 100 people.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: She's probably starting it up somewhere else.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Now it's hard though. What kind of fools are you
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: going to get?
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of fools. I think it's pretty
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: hard to start again. Okay, we're going to let me
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: see if there's anything. Are you friends with any, Allie,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: any other of the Bravo kids that you keep in
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: touch with or really?
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: I'd say I'm friendly with most of them.
• 57:36
  Speaker 9: Like if I saw Avery and Victoria, we always get along.
• 57:42
  Speaker 9: I think Jersey kids, if I saw them. But it
• 57:46
  Speaker 9: was weird because we were one of the first housewives
• 57:48
  Speaker 9: and we were all young. I feel like now there's
• 57:49
  Speaker 9: a big age gap between older kids that.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Are older and then the new housewives, kids that are
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: much younger. So there's a big age gap. Yeah.
• 57:58
  Speaker 9: But I think like a BravoCon, we hang out with them.
• 58:00
  Speaker 9: It's nice to have this camaraderie and this shared experience.
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: But.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going to.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: No one's in a day. I'm going to... Oh, Brooke's more. Okay.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: I'm pitching something right now.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: BravoCon.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Because it's my idea.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: It's going to be really awkward if you don't ask
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: me to do it. We need to have a panel. Yeah.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: With the kids.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: OG kids or new kids?
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: OG. What do you mean?
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Like, the OG? It doesn't matter. It could be a variety.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: Well, no.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Kids of the past or kids of the present. Like,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Mook Mooks is now, and Ally's 10 years ago.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: I think we could mix them. I think that's what's interesting.
• 58:31
  Speaker 9: Well, do you remember there was a Watch What Happens
• 58:33
  Speaker 9: Live special where Andy invited the kids and didn't invite me,
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: and someone took it very personally.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, why weren't you invited for that?
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Then maybe I can't get this because it was kind
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: of already done. But anyway, I would like to.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: No, it was different when it wasn't.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: As a mother of kids that are 20s and teens,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I would like to do a panel.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: With whatever kids they want. I know every single one.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: And I can come up with questions and everything of
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: what what would you ask Allie? Well, I've asked her
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: a lot on this show, but, um, mostly, you know,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: mostly I really want to get to like the juice.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Like when, what, when was one time that being your
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: daughter's child was was, and this is good, that it
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: really helped you or was really beneficial or a super
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: fun night? What was one experience that you were like, wow,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: this wouldn't have happened.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Or this was great.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: This person approached me. And then when was one of
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: the times where it was really hurtful?
• 59:40
  Speaker 9: In my perspective, I would say that my mom was
• 59:43
  Speaker 9: always this like socialite person.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: So I never felt like our lives changed that much.
• 59:48
  Speaker 9: Like it was a very gradual shift because there was
• 59:51
  Speaker 9: no overnight social media.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: So for me, I always felt like we were always
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: this socialite. They were always her friends.
• 59:57
  Speaker 9: Nothing really changed that drastically for a very long time
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 9: until pretty much the past few years. Like we were
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 9: always kind of in magazines and stuff. So I never
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 9: really felt like it helped us that much when I
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 9: was younger.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: But I can give you an example.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 9: But I always felt like it hurt me because I
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 9: was embarrassed in school, going to college.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: I was embarrassed getting a job after school.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: You were embarrassed because would people.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Say it or you thought they were thinking it? Like, oh,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: that's Jill Zarin's daughter, Allie.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 9: Because I was scared when they Googled me, if I
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 9: had a job, they would see Jill Zarin's daughter, whatever
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 9: it is.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: And it was about weight loss and a diet camp
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: and whatever.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 9: But I feel like now with social media and stuff,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 9: everyone has a platform.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Everyone's some kind of a celebrity. And you have your
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: own voice.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's not that crazy anymore special to be recognized
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 9: or known.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: And so I feel like, yeah, I mean, it helps us.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's an interesting point.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: In general, being like semi-famous, but I wouldn't say like
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: the housewives... skyrocketed.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 9: Us specifically it was more of like this overall fame
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 9: that we've all you know but I remember there's a
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 9: club in New York that you went to I think
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 9: in the last couple of years and they recognized you
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 9: oh my god I won't say the name of it
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 9: no but it's funnier it's funnier so I went to
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 9: a club with my friends they were giving us a
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 9: very hard time me and my guy friends by a
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 9: table we get in and the bouncer was probably gay
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 9: I would say he was gay and he goes you
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 9: know these all of these curtains are from Zarin Fabrics
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 9: And so it was funny because, like, he knew me
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 9: and that it was there in Fabrics.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: I don't remember that.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: But it didn't really help me get into the club. So, yeah,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like you never know who.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Up in the club.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Well, all the gays love you.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, wasn't there a time where you
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: went to the door and the doorman recognized you?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: And he said, you can come in with all your friends.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: And Allie was like, was a big shot because she
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: got 15 people into a club that you couldn't get into.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Because they recognized her.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Right, so that's exactly.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: So that's a positive, right?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: You answered the question perfectly.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: It had those perks, but then it had this extra
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: anxiety or stress a little bit.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: So, well, girls, thank you so much.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Thank you for schlepping over here.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: When am I, let's get out the calendar.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: For when I'm coming to hang out, I'm inviting myself
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: to the Hamptons this summer.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: You are always invited. I'm your guest at BravoCon.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: And then I also want to get out and pick
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: out and buy some rugs today.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Today.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Because I keep saying I won't, and I never, so
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: while we're here, we're going to show me the stuff.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I need one for my house inside, and I need
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: one for my patio.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: Good.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: You know your sizes. That was the issue.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can show you here what my size is.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: I'll walk around and you tell me what it is.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: And we can share our code.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: What is the code for the Juicy Scoopers?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 9: Juicy15 on JillZarin.com and JillAndAllie.com for all of your gifts
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 9: and rugs and furniture and everything.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Thank you, girls.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having us. Thanks for having us.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: You're the best Housewives Juicy Scoopers ever.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm your number one fan. I am a member
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: of Patreon, too.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: So that's why I can never say anything.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Bad about you.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: I protect myself that way. It's an insurance policy. No,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: she's the best show. I don't know what to tell you.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: You are the best comedian.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:03:14
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