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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullimsells, John Oshan,
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Speaker 1: Brian Sex Jacks Drive Time and it starts right now
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Speaker 1: they're part I'm gladn't No, No, definitely, just that's just
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Speaker 1: a human element of it. Just send the results, you're
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Speaker 1: definitely like if there was in a Year to Miss,
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Speaker 1: I missed the grave one. Okay, every time I hear it,
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Speaker 1: I laughed. The clip that has gone absolutely viral from
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Speaker 1: Traves E t and and in the moment, you know,
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Speaker 1: it was funny, but I didn't think it would catch
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Speaker 1: the attention that it did on the path back a
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Speaker 1: few show it's on Rick Guys and show. Well, it's
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Speaker 1: just the man's just being honest. Well, that's it, And
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Speaker 1: I think we lack a certain candor, right and everyone
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Speaker 1: wants to say the right thing in the social media
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Speaker 1: age so that you don't go viral for the wrong reasons. Um,
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Speaker 1: and he just kind of laid it out there for
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Speaker 1: what it is and it's refreshing. Yeah, if for nothing else.
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Speaker 1: I mean that there are three and fourteen Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: of course it's the Year to Miss, and then there
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Speaker 1: is all the underlying you know what exactly was he
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Speaker 1: talking about what you know everything. So it was a
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Speaker 1: great quote. It was, and I appreciate the honesty. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Jaguars Drive Time on a Tuesday. A lot to
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Speaker 1: discuss here, as the draft is only nine days away.
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Speaker 1: We get into big things here. Big thing one's smart
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Speaker 1: Aidan Hunchinson is the smart choice and the most popular
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Speaker 1: draft choice as of now when you look at mock drafts,
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Speaker 1: adding a defensive end to this defensive line, and we
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Speaker 1: were talking to Shaq Griffin. He seems on board with
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Speaker 1: it as well. I think we just need someone scared.
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Speaker 1: We need one more scary name because I thought we
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Speaker 1: got amazing pieces on defense, amazing, but one more person
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Speaker 1: who can take pressure off either of me John's Allen.
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Speaker 1: We got Darius and Wills that We've got so many
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Speaker 1: great guys. You can get one more person on that
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Speaker 1: d line and really scared people to take pressure off
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, who fel is going to have amazing year.
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Speaker 1: Then we're gonna be a big thing too. Is rising
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Speaker 1: but risky. Now we go to the other popular draft choice,
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Speaker 1: not as Georgia defensive tackle tray Von Walker, and he
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Speaker 1: has seen as more of the risks can general manager
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Speaker 1: manager Trent Bulky handled the risk of taking tray Von
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Speaker 1: Walker over the smart choice. We just talked about an
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Speaker 1: age in Hutchinson, but Walker's athletic ability, if you fall
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Speaker 1: in love with it, maybe that's the smart choice. We'll
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Speaker 1: talk a lot about that. And finally, Big Thing three
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Speaker 1: is calm before the storm. It is very quiet around here,
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Speaker 1: but it will not be quiet. And about a week
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Speaker 1: that drafted him down the hallway is getting the final touches.
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Speaker 1: And I just showed a picture to Brian. My dad
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Speaker 1: is in Vegas right now and they are building the
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Speaker 1: stage in the Bellaggio Fountain where players will walk on
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Speaker 1: top of water, and they're gonna do a big in
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Speaker 1: Vegas on top of the way them does that. Uh
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Speaker 1: So I've been going to the draft since they moved
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Speaker 1: it out of New York, So Chicago, Philadelphia, Dallas, Nashville, Eveland.
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Speaker 1: And it's not a stage, right, it's a building. I
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Speaker 1: mean the when the NFL rolls in to bring the
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Speaker 1: draft to your town. I mean they roll in six
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Speaker 1: weeks early and start building out, you know, because of
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Speaker 1: all the television infrastructure they need. Um I I don't
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Speaker 1: think anybody will do it better than Nashville. I thought
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Speaker 1: it was amazing, but Vegas will do it in their
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Speaker 1: own unique way. And I'm excited to get there next
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Speaker 1: week and see yeah and the old man and me
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Speaker 1: laughs because I can remember as a kid, I was
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Speaker 1: a huge NFL fan and there were many years I
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Speaker 1: didn't like I didn't know in the draft was it was.
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Speaker 1: It was just not an event. And then really, Bryan,
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Speaker 1: since we started covering league, it was it was starting
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Speaker 1: to bubble at that point. But it's just gotten progressively
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Speaker 1: bigger and bigger and bigger. And I I always thought
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Speaker 1: it would be a terrible mood to move out out
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Speaker 1: of New York. Uh, and it it has put the
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Speaker 1: event on steroids in terms of popularity and in terms
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Speaker 1: of bigness, and it's it's remarkable how the NFL has
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Speaker 1: managed to make the seventeen weeks they play. Uh. I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna say it's it's ancillary, because obviously that's why
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Speaker 1: they play. But there are weeks and times of the
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Speaker 1: offseason that the news is just as big as it
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Speaker 1: is during the regular season, which is an amazing if
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Speaker 1: the amazing thing they've done. If you if you get
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Speaker 1: a set go and I'm sure you can find it
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Speaker 1: on YouTube and find ESPN's original broadcast of the draft.
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Speaker 1: People thought, you're crazy, who's going to watch this? And
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Speaker 1: you know, they're what. The electronics didn't exist to me.
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Speaker 1: There's like a white board, a chalkboard behind Pete Roselle
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Speaker 1: and they're putting names up and you have guys talking.
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Speaker 1: Then they have the video of all these college kids
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Speaker 1: that they do today and to see where it's become
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Speaker 1: from there, which is like what that they first did
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Speaker 1: it too. Now it's completely different. Um. The amazing thing is, Brian,
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Speaker 1: they're still guessing a lot of time. Oh there's no
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Speaker 1: matter how I mean, And they would never say that,
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Speaker 1: but when you're dealing with the young human beings who
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Speaker 1: you're trying to project. If you look at the first round,
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Speaker 1: as scientific as it as it's gotten, it is still
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Speaker 1: largely I don't want to say guessing game is more
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Speaker 1: to it than that, but there's a lot of misses.
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Speaker 1: So in two thousand fifteen, which was the first year
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Speaker 1: they took it out of New York, Um, I got
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Speaker 1: there on Tuesday. There's all kinds of off the field
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Speaker 1: stuff that they do with these players. They take them
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Speaker 1: to a school in a hospital and and but it
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Speaker 1: didn't feel like there was a huge event until Thursday morning.
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Speaker 1: That's when all the fans started arriving from all over
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Speaker 1: the country. You're gonna say that's when you got there. No,
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Speaker 1: I got there on two follow along here, um. And
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Speaker 1: so on Thursday all the fans and it was in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the country for the first time. So
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Speaker 1: you brought a lot of people from the West coast
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Speaker 1: in right, and from you know, Dallas and Phoenix that
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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have gone all the way to New York
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Speaker 1: and it all of a sudden it became an NFL festival, right,
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Speaker 1: And that's what it feels like. And again, Vegas is
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Speaker 1: going to feel off the chain. Yes, my absolute favorite
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Speaker 1: thing about the National Draft is when you have the
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Speaker 1: bachelorette parties being interviewed in They're like, are you kidding me?
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Speaker 1: What's going on? This is my time? Yeah? No, it
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Speaker 1: was psychotic to I mean, they were so there was
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Speaker 1: nowhere to stay. Um. The one thing that they did
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Speaker 1: really well and people who know Broadway, they had those
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Speaker 1: the zip line cameras right that they had overtatd going
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Speaker 1: all the way down Broadway to the stage and then
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Speaker 1: all the way back up it was. It was spectacular.
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Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to it. Hey, one thing that
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Speaker 1: I want to mention, big thing to Travon Walker. Um,
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Speaker 1: I just had this this idea. And you may or
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Speaker 1: may not remember the two thousand nine draft, but the
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Speaker 1: Chiefs took a guy, a rising guy that year, UH,
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Speaker 1: six ft five pound defensive end who had been a
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Speaker 1: four three defensive end at l s U named Tyson Jackson.
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Speaker 1: And Jackson was a workout warrior, and they surprised everybody
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Speaker 1: by taking him for the measurables. And he had seven
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Speaker 1: seasons in the NFL largely unremarkable. And that's the thing
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Speaker 1: that makes you go, where does this kid fit? Right?
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Speaker 1: You see him and he looks the part right down
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Speaker 1: to how quickly he can change direction. He looks like
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Speaker 1: a superior prospect um. But if you talk to people
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Speaker 1: who were in Kansas City back in two thousand nine,
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Speaker 1: they thought the same thing about Tyson Jackson. You really
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Speaker 1: have to have that crystal ball dialed in, because that's
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Speaker 1: what you're doing when you're projecting a guy to come
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Speaker 1: from college to the pros that didn't have the production,
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Speaker 1: uh in terms of big number sacks and that's what
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Speaker 1: you're looking from for this guy. So there are warning
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Speaker 1: signs that make you go, hey, teams have gambled and
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Speaker 1: lost before. Be careful. Yeah, late risers in the draft
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Speaker 1: scared some GMS because if you're rising, you're not rising
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Speaker 1: based on what you did in the field. The argument
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Speaker 1: for Trayvon Walker, despite the numbers, is he played at
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Speaker 1: Georgia and and and a megaloded defense, one of the
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Speaker 1: best defenses time but in a long long time. So
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Speaker 1: he didn't get some reps in certain situations that if
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Speaker 1: he had gotten them, perhaps his numbers are highed. Aidan
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Speaker 1: Hutchinson had many opportunities took advantage of him. Walker didn't
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Speaker 1: have as many opportunities. Um, that's why despite all the
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Speaker 1: technology and despite all of the manpower and eyes you
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Speaker 1: put into this thing, there is still a moment where
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Speaker 1: a couple of decision makers on a team have to decide,
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Speaker 1: am I willing to look at this or this or
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Speaker 1: this on a player and take a chance. And it's
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Speaker 1: why the draft is any sense talked about offensive line
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Speaker 1: and we have those two draft picks, and that's the
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Speaker 1: popular picks, but they could very easily go in the
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Speaker 1: complete opposite direction and not take either of them and
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be as easy as it was. Though. I think
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Speaker 1: they're gonna They're gonna get a long term deal done
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Speaker 1: with Cam and I understand I'm the best available player guy,
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Speaker 1: but boy, if they believe that Cam Robinson's a rising player. Uh,
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Speaker 1: I think they believe that they've improved things with Brandon
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Speaker 1: Surf and I think they believe that Walker little dwant.
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Speaker 1: When you've got that up front, it's tough. It will
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Speaker 1: be a tough. But then there's the Jonathan Ogden argument
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Speaker 1: of if you think it's elite, how do you pass
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Speaker 1: on it? And you can have in your face And
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Speaker 1: here's the question mark that's the problem. The question mark
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Speaker 1: is what's the difference between Aidan Hutchinson and Evan Neil
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Speaker 1: Or I can quantu if the grade is equal, well,
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Speaker 1: then need comes in right, and you heard Shack Griffin
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Speaker 1: talk about needing that one more player if the grade
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Speaker 1: is equal. Now, we don't know what their great is,
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Speaker 1: what their board says. If a quantity was above him,
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Speaker 1: take him, right, If Neil is above him, take him. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's my argument for the Jonathan Ogden and don't pass
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Speaker 1: on special they signed Leon Seriously, who was a really
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Speaker 1: good player, really good Pro Bowl player, And they took
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Speaker 1: Kevin Hardy, who was a good player, but they passed
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Speaker 1: on a Hall of famer. Don't pass on a Hall
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Speaker 1: of famer because he plays a position you think you're at.
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Speaker 1: You don't know what an injury gets hurt. Hey, remember
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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli was gone in two thousand and one. He
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Speaker 1: was done. Right. If you've had John Ogden playing right tackle,
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, your left tackle is solid. Don't
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Speaker 1: pass on elite because of need. And it's such an
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Speaker 1: easy discussion for us to have in retrospect and sound
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Speaker 1: like experts when you're in the room. That's a we're
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Speaker 1: thinking about this year. That's a projection discussion. Oddn't worked
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Speaker 1: out great? A million of those don't, so it's into yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: six ft nine. And I was doing a segment with
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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli last week and that was his argument for
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Speaker 1: Equanu was especially with the unstability of the offensive line
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Speaker 1: and possibly playing guard or pushing to write and pushing
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Speaker 1: Jowan Taylor, There's so many options that Tony's argument was,
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Speaker 1: you're not set of offensive line, and it is a
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Speaker 1: need maybe even bigger than defensive end. I think he's
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Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson. Yeah, you get a chance to Quentin Nelson
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Speaker 1: your offensive line, you're gonna pass on that, right, I wouldn't.
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Speaker 1: But are not set on the defensive line. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's the problem. There's so many right. Their issue is
11:04
Speaker 1: the same argument could be made if Tony had put
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Speaker 1: his hand on the ground and played a defensive end
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Speaker 1: pass rusher. He's probably making the same argument for I mean,
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Speaker 1: and he's probably right on the offensive line, but he'd
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Speaker 1: been making the same argument. Boy, how much better a
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Speaker 1: pass rushing team would they be if they had one
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Speaker 1: more element? Look at pick thirty thresh out and when
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Speaker 1: you look at the bottom of the first round to
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Speaker 1: you know about pick forty, there are some defensive ends,
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Speaker 1: maybe not six ft seven, two sixty pounds. But what's
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Speaker 1: the difference between Hutchinson and what's the difference between him
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Speaker 1: and the kid from Minnesota Mahafe? I mean, you start
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Speaker 1: looking at this a you gotta figure out And we
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Speaker 1: don't know, we don't know what they think. Nope, we
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Speaker 1: certainly don't. But one person that knows a lot about
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Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson is Lions team reporter Danny Rodgers. He's going
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Speaker 1: Nine days away from the NFL Draft, and we're gonna
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Speaker 1: bring in Danny Rodgers right now. Who is the Lions
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Speaker 1: team reporter? Danny? Good morning. You were at Hutchinson's pro day,
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Speaker 1: so I know you know him well. Can you give
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Speaker 1: us a little synopsis of what you know about him
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Speaker 1: in the prospect he might be Good morning you guys,
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Speaker 1: happy to be on here with you. Um. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'll first throw it out there, I'm a Michigan Aluve
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Speaker 1: although I try not to let any of that play
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Speaker 1: a factor in who I think the Lions might draft,
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Speaker 1: who Jacksonville might might draft, and certainly who Aiden Hutchinson is.
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Speaker 1: But we kind of go way back. I interned with
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Speaker 1: his sister at Michigan Football for Jim Harball, so I've
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Speaker 1: known about the hutch family for a minute. So to
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Speaker 1: see Aiden Hutchinson just rise the ranks through this Michigan
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Speaker 1: football program, especially what his dad was able to do
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Speaker 1: there as a former Wolverine, and then just how great
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Speaker 1: that family is. I don't know if you are seen,
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Speaker 1: but they travel very very well there with Aidan throughout
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Speaker 1: this entire process. So it's been really cool to watch.
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Speaker 1: But Aiden got to go to his pro day. Unfortunately
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Speaker 1: coach Harball doesn't let media, at least local media into
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Speaker 1: watch pro day. But yet another good showing. Really it
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Speaker 1: was the combine that slated him up there, if not
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Speaker 1: number one, at least there in the top three or so.
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Speaker 1: So he's put on quite a show this offseason leading
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Speaker 1: up to the draft, and um, I mean he's just
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Speaker 1: I feel like one of a kind in this draft
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Speaker 1: as well, so he certainly, um, he certainly deserves all
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Speaker 1: the recognition he's getting and certainly possibly that number one
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Speaker 1: overall pick. They're coming out of Michigan. So I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: put you on the spot, Danny, and and it's real simple.
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Speaker 1: If the Jaguars pass on him, do the Lions take
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Speaker 1: the full ten minutes or that they take ten seconds
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Speaker 1: before their card is turned in. That's a great question
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Speaker 1: based on the off season and what general manager Brad
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Speaker 1: Holmes and Dan Campbell has let us into see a
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Speaker 1: little bit. They've peeled back the curtain. It's not a
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Speaker 1: whole lot. There's a lot of smoke there um. But
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Speaker 1: just based on that, I think they're gonna at least
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Speaker 1: take about five minutes off the board. I don't think
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Speaker 1: they'll take the whole ten but I think they will
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Speaker 1: take at least five minutes off the board and just
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Speaker 1: make people guess and keep them entertained a little bit. Well,
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Speaker 1: you never know what offer might come in. You just don't.
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Speaker 1: I mean, somebody may get stupid and send something up
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Speaker 1: there that that you want anticipation. She can't. You can't
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Speaker 1: go in ten seconds. The television networks don't want you to
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Speaker 1: to go in ten seconds. But I think what you're
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Speaker 1: saying is is they would love to see him there.
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Speaker 1: I think Detroit would love to see it. And Hutchinson there,
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Speaker 1: I mean he has there are no questions about about
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Speaker 1: hutch On field off field. You know exactly what you're getting.
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Speaker 1: He was in the building just Monday for his visit
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Speaker 1: with the Detroit lines. You know that this team is
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Speaker 1: certainly interested in a in a defensive end that has
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Speaker 1: really good UH pass rusher capabilities. He uses his hands
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Speaker 1: really well, like I mentioned, had a really great showing
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Speaker 1: at the Combine. The only question sometimes is his athleticism,
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Speaker 1: UM and his abilities in the run game. Those are
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Speaker 1: the only times there might be a little bit of
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Speaker 1: weakness showing there. But UM, and I asked, a lot
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Speaker 1: of people might give me a weakness of Aiden Hutchinson,
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Speaker 1: and it is so difficult for them to give me one.
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Speaker 1: They can go on and on about his strengths and
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Speaker 1: his work ethics. I know at Michigan he was the
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Speaker 1: guy that would show up an extra hour early to
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Speaker 1: every single workout and practice. Is um he asked the
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Speaker 1: coaches and the staff to put him through the ring
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Speaker 1: like he needed to keep being humbled throughout this entire
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Speaker 1: senior season. Coming off of that injury junior year, and
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Speaker 1: I can only imagine what the stats would have been
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Speaker 1: his senior year if he had played junior year. Um,
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Speaker 1: but he was also really instrumental in just making everyone
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Speaker 1: else around him better at Michigan. This team went to
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Speaker 1: the national semifinal game and it was hot. She was
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Speaker 1: making everyone better, including David Ojabo, who was a late
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Speaker 1: bloomer to football in general. Hutch really brought Ojabo up
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Speaker 1: with him. UM really really awful to see what had
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Speaker 1: happened at Ojabo's pro day with with his injury. But um,
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Speaker 1: just just a guy that makes everyone better around him.
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Speaker 1: I talked with him about what he loves about the
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Speaker 1: Detroit lines right now. It's the culture that Dan Campbell's building.
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Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, I saw that that one press conference
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Speaker 1: where Dan Campbell wish I ended here because he was
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Speaker 1: so emotionally. He's like, that's just me. We want to
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Speaker 1: play for him even more so. UM, any team that
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Speaker 1: gets gets Hutch is going to get a relentless player.
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Speaker 1: That is the word that Hutch uses to describe himself.
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Speaker 1: He said, it was difficult to just pick one word
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Speaker 1: at his pro day when I talk with them, But
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Speaker 1: if anything, you're getting a very very relentless dude, and
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Speaker 1: Hutch this isn't a fair question because it involves speculation
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Speaker 1: that is there any talk around the team, meaning in
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Speaker 1: the media up there at the Pro day, about the
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Speaker 1: lines liking him enough to trade up. And I know
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Speaker 1: there's no way to know it, because trades happen out
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Speaker 1: of the blue, but any sense about that at all,
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Speaker 1: just from what people are talking about outside the team.
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Speaker 1: To be honest, that for the first time that a
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Speaker 1: trade up was proposed um to me and in any
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Speaker 1: form of the media was about a week ago, So
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Speaker 1: it isn't something that has really been harved one as
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Speaker 1: of late. I it's it's really really tough to say
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Speaker 1: because this draft is so weird, and that's what really
17:49
Speaker 1: everyone is using to describe it. It's very weird. It's
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Speaker 1: very unique. You don't have a clear cut number one,
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Speaker 1: So if Detroit misses out on Aidan at number one,
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Speaker 1: it's really tough for me to say that they think
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Speaker 1: that there's no one else that can directly impact this
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Speaker 1: team and be a day one starter, and that's exactly
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Speaker 1: what they're looking for that number two overall spots. So
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Speaker 1: it's really tough for me to say that Detroit will
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Speaker 1: trade up to get hutch Um. So, I mean, we'll
18:17
Speaker 1: have to see Jacksonville. You guys know anything about a
18:19
Speaker 1: trade potentially coming, not at this moment, but I'll keep
18:23
Speaker 1: you posted. And let's just say that you have convinced
18:26
Speaker 1: us that Hutchinson is the guy here in Jacksonville. If
18:29
Speaker 1: that is the case, what are your feelings about what
18:32
Speaker 1: Detroit will take at number two? If that's the case.
18:36
Speaker 1: I am waiting until the very last second to do
18:39
Speaker 1: my mock draft because it is constantly changing. I mean
18:42
Speaker 1: I saw a mock draft that came out this morning,
18:45
Speaker 1: uh from NFL Network or ESPN, one of the two,
18:49
Speaker 1: and it had Trayvon Walker going number one overall to
18:52
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and then hutch following the number two overall to Detroit.
18:56
Speaker 1: So I am waiting until the very last second to
18:59
Speaker 1: how have to put myself out to the fire like that,
19:02
Speaker 1: because literally no one really knows what's going to go on. Um.
19:06
Speaker 1: I would like to see Lions pick up I think
19:08
Speaker 1: Walker at number two of Hutches not there. Um, But
19:11
Speaker 1: you have a really good playmaker in came on Thibodeaux,
19:13
Speaker 1: who has also been hovering around that top three spots.
19:17
Speaker 1: So I am waiting until the very last second to
19:21
Speaker 1: throw myself out to the dogs and and just not
19:24
Speaker 1: pick a quarterback. I won't pick a quarterback number two
19:26
Speaker 1: overall with Fort Detroit, I will say that. Okay, fair enough.
19:28
Speaker 1: I know it's tough to say. And thank you for
19:30
Speaker 1: letting us put you on the spot, Danny. We appreciate
19:32
Speaker 1: you joining us. Thank you. Guys absolutely have a great
19:36
Speaker 1: day coming up on Jaguars Drive Time. Tight and Chris
19:39
Speaker 1: man Hurts joins the program. Stay with us. We are
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Speaker 1: back Jaguars Drive Time, brought to you by Jet Home Loans.
19:51
Speaker 1: Very excited to have Jaguars tight end. Chris man Hurts
19:54
Speaker 1: joined Jaguars Drive Time. We were just saying, it has
19:57
Speaker 1: been a while since we have all been back here
20:00
Speaker 1: in person. How's it going on? How did the first
20:02
Speaker 1: week of back in the building go? Tell you what?
20:04
Speaker 1: It feels great just to be around the guys, being
20:07
Speaker 1: around a new environment of coaches and you know, um,
20:10
Speaker 1: it's pretty lively and guys are excited to be just
20:13
Speaker 1: to get back to it since there. Um yeah, it's
20:17
Speaker 1: it's new again. Uh and it's different. It's really different,
20:22
Speaker 1: isn't that? And I'm not asking you to put someone
20:23
Speaker 1: on the spot and that was terrible. But the reality
20:25
Speaker 1: of it is is that this just feels right right.
20:29
Speaker 1: Um And, like I said, it's it's kind of hard
20:32
Speaker 1: to compare from from last year, but UM, I could
20:36
Speaker 1: just tell just the energy of guys in the building,
20:38
Speaker 1: the coaches. UM. Coach Peterson is is obviously his resume
20:41
Speaker 1: speaks for itself, UM and and having a championship at
20:44
Speaker 1: agree and UM you know, the work that he has
20:47
Speaker 1: put in it as a player is just exciting to
20:49
Speaker 1: be around it. Now you're known as a run blocking
20:54
Speaker 1: tight end, but you also have clearly receiving capabilities. Doug
20:59
Speaker 1: pe are soon known for that position, known for getting
21:02
Speaker 1: the most out of that position. How excited are you
21:04
Speaker 1: about that and how do you feel like you can
21:06
Speaker 1: benefit from that? I'm very excited. UM. You know, you
21:09
Speaker 1: see a guy that heavily utilizes tight ends in his offense, UM,
21:13
Speaker 1: and there and integral part of the offense. I think
21:17
Speaker 1: it's good for our room. UM. We obviously have me
21:20
Speaker 1: Dan Arnold, um Evan Luke, UM And I think it's
21:24
Speaker 1: it's very complimentary for us to work off for each
21:26
Speaker 1: other and whatever the scheme entails for us in that
21:29
Speaker 1: particular week or you know, even so for this year.
21:32
Speaker 1: You mentioned Evan Ingram Press Taylor last week was mentioning
21:35
Speaker 1: how he can tell how in tune he is to
21:37
Speaker 1: the offense already by the questions he's asking. And now
21:40
Speaker 1: you've been in a meeting room with him for about
21:42
Speaker 1: a week. What have you seen out of him? Yeah,
21:44
Speaker 1: exactly that. Um, I think at this point in time,
21:48
Speaker 1: we're all just trying to get a grasp of off
21:50
Speaker 1: the offense and the nuance that comes with the offense.
21:52
Speaker 1: But um, those type of questions, just being engaged it
21:55
Speaker 1: could only help us in a you know, by the
21:57
Speaker 1: time the season starts. What do you like about the
22:00
Speaker 1: offense in terms of Jaguars fans? I think have seen it.
22:04
Speaker 1: They saw it in Philadelphia a little bit. But how
22:06
Speaker 1: do you feel like it's going to fit the personnel
22:08
Speaker 1: you have here? I think it's very complimentary. And what
22:11
Speaker 1: I mean by that is that it's pretty much tailored by, uh,
22:16
Speaker 1: what the players can bring to the table, and that
22:18
Speaker 1: has also been a point of emphasis for us as
22:20
Speaker 1: a offense and what coach wants it's gonna be tailor
22:24
Speaker 1: to to to the skill sets the best skill sets
22:27
Speaker 1: on this team. So, UM, for me as a player,
22:29
Speaker 1: you can't really go wrong with that. Tell Us about
22:31
Speaker 1: the guys in that room, Um, in particular, you know
22:34
Speaker 1: Dan Arnold came in the trade and we didn't get
22:37
Speaker 1: the chance to sit with him like this because of
22:39
Speaker 1: the COVID UM, and you bring in Evan Ingram, who's
22:42
Speaker 1: a former first round draft choice who people are now
22:44
Speaker 1: looking going, that's a sneaky good move to have that
22:47
Speaker 1: kind of a talent. What do you know from the
22:48
Speaker 1: personalities of these guys, I wouldn't even say it's sneaky,
22:51
Speaker 1: it's it's a great move. Um, he's a hell of
22:54
Speaker 1: a player. And you know his tenure in New York.
22:56
Speaker 1: You know Afar watching from as far as a tight end,
23:00
Speaker 1: you see the type of dynamic player that he is. Um,
23:03
Speaker 1: he could stretch the field. Um, he's fast. He's almost
23:06
Speaker 1: like a big receiver in a sense. So having having
23:08
Speaker 1: guys like that to complement our room, you know, it
23:11
Speaker 1: kind of put to the defense and linebackers in particular
23:14
Speaker 1: in a buying to where they have to pick their poison. Now,
23:17
Speaker 1: guess who the most tenure Jaguars player in that room
23:21
Speaker 1: is now making me feel over. It shows you a turnover,
23:28
Speaker 1: But does that you feel like a leader in that room?
23:32
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm getting at. Yes, Um, that's certainly
23:35
Speaker 1: a role that I've been open to being to being
23:39
Speaker 1: a part of. UM. But at the same time, I
23:41
Speaker 1: have to give credit to the guys in the room
23:43
Speaker 1: as well, because although they're relatively young compared to me. Um,
23:47
Speaker 1: they've been in this league. Outside of Luke Farrell, the
23:49
Speaker 1: younger guy, they've been in this league for for quite
23:51
Speaker 1: a bit to get their feet wet. So as far
23:54
Speaker 1: as being a pro and and knowing how to go
23:56
Speaker 1: about your business, UM, you know, those guys do a
23:58
Speaker 1: great job of it. And we've beat off of each other,
24:00
Speaker 1: so that's that's always a good thing. We talked in
24:03
Speaker 1: here about Doug Peterson's approach to this offseason. Having been
24:07
Speaker 1: a guy who played it for fourteen years played quarterback
24:10
Speaker 1: and who coached it for a dozen more. UM, it
24:13
Speaker 1: seems like his approach to the voluntary portion of the
24:17
Speaker 1: off season would fit a veteran like you and like
24:20
Speaker 1: this locker room perfectly. Oh absolutely, UM, And we're we're
24:23
Speaker 1: kind of at least uh knowing from last week. We're
24:27
Speaker 1: taking a pretty methodical approach as far as implementing the offense,
24:30
Speaker 1: installing the offense, ensuring that all the guys know the
24:34
Speaker 1: nuances of the offense, the splits, the very fine details,
24:37
Speaker 1: so that we could all learn and download this information
24:40
Speaker 1: and you know, hit the ground running, come training camp
24:42
Speaker 1: and when the season starts. What's the toughest part of
24:45
Speaker 1: trying to learn an offense? I mean, you know, I
24:49
Speaker 1: went to college a long long time ago. Is it
24:52
Speaker 1: like that? Is it like a class where you're trying
24:54
Speaker 1: to look at it and just trying to figure it out. Yeah.
24:57
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is it's almost like learning
24:59
Speaker 1: a new land, which, um, as a whole. In the NFL,
25:02
Speaker 1: we all pretty run pretty much run the same place. Um,
25:05
Speaker 1: they're just called differently and it's it's there's there's different
25:08
Speaker 1: calls and you know, um, there's just a new language.
25:11
Speaker 1: So just putting yourself in classroom mode whatever it is. However,
25:15
Speaker 1: which way you learn. Everybody learns differently. There's visual learners
25:18
Speaker 1: and some people write things down like myself. So whatever,
25:22
Speaker 1: you know, we need to do as a whole and
25:23
Speaker 1: individually to to learn and grasp the offense. You know
25:27
Speaker 1: it'll take time, but you know we now is the
25:30
Speaker 1: time where we could really sit down and learn. We
25:32
Speaker 1: talked a lot about the offensive brain power that the
25:36
Speaker 1: staff brings to the table here. Doug Peterson, Mike Cooy,
25:40
Speaker 1: Press Taylor, Jim Bob Cooder. Um, what have you seen
25:44
Speaker 1: from that group? You talk about doing a lot of
25:46
Speaker 1: the same things team to team, but they've got to
25:48
Speaker 1: bring you some wrinkles and some some things that have
25:51
Speaker 1: to get you excited about what's possible. And that's the
25:54
Speaker 1: most exciting part as a player. Um. You know, obviously
25:57
Speaker 1: across the board on this offense, I would say that
26:00
Speaker 1: we we've upgraded. Why receive a room position is great? Uh,
26:03
Speaker 1: the tightened room position isn't a better spot than it
26:07
Speaker 1: was uh last year talent wise, and you know those
26:11
Speaker 1: type of players, those type of moves. It just makes
26:13
Speaker 1: me excited just to work alongside with these guys and
26:16
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what what we could do with them.
26:21
Speaker 1: I think we'd be remiss if we didn't ask about
26:22
Speaker 1: Urvin Lawrence and what you expect from the young quarterback.
26:25
Speaker 1: What you saw from him at the end of the
26:27
Speaker 1: year with that brilliant performance against the Colts and and
26:31
Speaker 1: what sort of a jump is fair to expect from
26:33
Speaker 1: that young man. Uh. For me, it's just all about progress.
26:36
Speaker 1: And we know as a quarterback coming into this league
26:38
Speaker 1: last year in the situation that we was in, it's
26:41
Speaker 1: not the easiest. Um, So having a little bit of
26:43
Speaker 1: grace uh and knowing that and knowing that the second
26:46
Speaker 1: year is really the year usually in statistically that guys
26:49
Speaker 1: really made that jump and get over that hump. So, um,
26:53
Speaker 1: that's what I expect, just progress and he's well on
26:55
Speaker 1: his way. Um. I could tell that he's a lot
26:57
Speaker 1: more comfortable. He knows how how things are done, and
27:01
Speaker 1: you know, he's been a process. He set foot in
27:03
Speaker 1: this building, so that's not really issue in the draft
27:06
Speaker 1: is nine days away. I always think it's curious how
27:09
Speaker 1: many guys pay attention to this. Look at mock drafts.
27:11
Speaker 1: What's your approach to this? You do you research this
27:14
Speaker 1: at all? Or whoever comes shows up, to be honest
27:16
Speaker 1: with you, whoever comes just shows up. You know, I'm
27:19
Speaker 1: I'm I'm watching the draft scene seeing who's selected obviously
27:22
Speaker 1: and whoever we select, Um, it's a new teammate. You
27:25
Speaker 1: can't can't get ready can't wait to work with them
27:28
Speaker 1: and and see what they bring to the table as well.
27:30
Speaker 1: So it's it's pretty exciting. And tell us what you
27:32
Speaker 1: do for fun if you will. In this off seam
27:35
Speaker 1: you're learning a new offense, but I know you have kids,
27:37
Speaker 1: hopefully spending some more time with them. What is just
27:39
Speaker 1: your off season been like? My off season has been
27:42
Speaker 1: full blown dad mode. Uh and training obviously that's pretty
27:46
Speaker 1: much all I have the wiggle room for um and
27:49
Speaker 1: and having a baby. But it's been great. It's been
27:51
Speaker 1: very uh, humbling to to be more present, be around,
27:55
Speaker 1: especially in the off season and just you know, take
27:58
Speaker 1: a break from football and just focus on what really
28:01
Speaker 1: the priorities are. Love that well, Chris, thank you so
28:04
Speaker 1: much for joining Jaguars Drive time. We appreciate you. Appreciate
28:07
Speaker 1: absolutely much more to come here on the Jaguars Digital Network. Ye.
28:23
Speaker 1: The Jaguars are future focused and ready for a new
28:26
Speaker 1: look in join us at the bank this season as
28:29
Speaker 1: head coach Doug Peterson and quarterback Trevor Lawrence leave the charge.
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28:35
Speaker 1: tickets are called nine oh four six three three two
28:38
Speaker 1: thousand but I'll say just I think it's important to
28:44
Speaker 1: to just kind of learn from last year and always
28:47
Speaker 1: not necessarily think about that all the times. You don't
28:49
Speaker 1: want to think about the bad things, but you want
28:51
Speaker 1: to use what you learned and not make the same mistakes,
28:55
Speaker 1: especially as individuals as as players, like things that went
28:58
Speaker 1: right went wrong. We all have to as we get
29:00
Speaker 1: better at and for me, I learned so much, so
29:02
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's like starting over, because I'm I'm
29:05
Speaker 1: thankful for those things I learned. I don't want to
29:07
Speaker 1: start over, you know, I want to keep those in
29:08
Speaker 1: my back pockets. So stuff like that. I think it's
29:11
Speaker 1: a good way to look at it, and I think
29:12
Speaker 1: guys are doing that. Loves that answer from Trevor Lawrence.
29:16
Speaker 1: I thought it was really honest because it could have
29:18
Speaker 1: been very easy for him to say, you know what,
29:20
Speaker 1: last year's stunk, let's just forget about it and move on,
29:22
Speaker 1: but he didn't say that. Definitely a learning experience, if
29:26
Speaker 1: you will. Boy, this gonna sound stupid. As as I'm
29:31
Speaker 1: watching that, I'm thinking, Boy, I hope he's good, and
29:35
Speaker 1: not just for the franchise or whatever. Everybody hopes he's good.
29:41
Speaker 1: He he still has a chance, and his mental makeup
29:44
Speaker 1: and his approach is so off the charts good. It
29:47
Speaker 1: just feels like it's gonna be a fascinating year, almost
29:49
Speaker 1: like a rookie year of Brian in seeing what he
29:53
Speaker 1: really is. And it almost feels like we're back to
29:55
Speaker 1: square one with all the hope, all the acts. We
29:58
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, but way the mental makeup is right,
30:01
Speaker 1: and I can't help but think that he's going to
30:03
Speaker 1: turn it around. Well. They all talked about how he
30:05
Speaker 1: was the total package when he was at Clemson, and
30:07
Speaker 1: it wasn't just the arm strength or his mobility or
30:10
Speaker 1: or his desire to play. It was the way that
30:12
Speaker 1: he approached being a leader unbelievable. He said things last
30:16
Speaker 1: year that I had never heard Jaguars quarterbacks say. I mean,
30:20
Speaker 1: he's got it. Maybe I should be a little bit more,
30:24
Speaker 1: you know, um objective about it. But I don't have
30:29
Speaker 1: any doubt that he's going to be really good. I
30:31
Speaker 1: don't know that he's going to be Peyton Manning. I
30:33
Speaker 1: mean I don't. I don't know that you can say that,
30:36
Speaker 1: but I believe it's going to be really good at
30:38
Speaker 1: the his what is the floor is really good. His
30:43
Speaker 1: upside is outstanding. Yeah, and it helps when you hear
30:45
Speaker 1: a press conference like that in such a straight and
30:47
Speaker 1: everything like that. Well, quarterbacks so much mental and so
30:50
Speaker 1: many fail because they don't have that. That gives him
30:53
Speaker 1: the shot and you can't help but think with the
30:55
Speaker 1: physical ability, it's going to be there. I don't know
30:57
Speaker 1: how he misses. And by the way, what he dealt
31:00
Speaker 1: with last year, right, we all know that he went
31:02
Speaker 1: to Mr Kan's bote in December. He was for a
31:04
Speaker 1: young player to have to answer those kinds of questions
31:07
Speaker 1: because you know that John was pointed with him. Even
31:09
Speaker 1: if we don't know what he said, you know he
31:10
Speaker 1: was saying, what do you think about this? And what
31:12
Speaker 1: do you think about that? Well, most young quarterbacks are
31:14
Speaker 1: just thinking about the I don't know right, what do
31:17
Speaker 1: you think? Right? They're thinking about the game play not
31:21
Speaker 1: He went through an intensity last year of fire on
31:25
Speaker 1: the field and off the field at one point, and
31:27
Speaker 1: that will only make him stronger. Yes, that man went
31:30
Speaker 1: through a lot. You could write a book maybe one
31:31
Speaker 1: day and we'll be reading. I don't think he'll need to,
31:34
Speaker 1: but he could. John, what are you coming up this week?
31:37
Speaker 1: We are starting the draft coverage Bucky Brooks and myself
31:42
Speaker 1: with a position by position series. I would read that
31:45
Speaker 1: if you're if you're Jaguars fan, because Bucky gets into
31:48
Speaker 1: Jaguars specific things on that that you're not gonna anywhere else.
31:51
Speaker 1: So Bucky Brooks and parentheses, John Oser, uh, Jaguars draft
31:57
Speaker 1: coverage and Jaguars dot Com and Brian you're getting ready
31:59
Speaker 1: to fly to Vegas here shortly? Yeah, getting ready? Uh,
32:01
Speaker 1: you know, twenty eight years here, have met a lot
32:04
Speaker 1: of scouts, know a lot of people around the league,
32:06
Speaker 1: and they're they're calling around you. They're picking up a phone,
32:09
Speaker 1: calling everybody they can, uh, you know, just looking for
32:12
Speaker 1: little pieces of information here and there. So I like
32:15
Speaker 1: this last week before the draft because I kind of
32:17
Speaker 1: feel plugged into a little network and and I'm just
32:19
Speaker 1: hearing lots of stuff and it is just smoke. But
32:22
Speaker 1: it's fun. This week is fun to hear those things.
32:25
Speaker 1: You're a Vegas guy, Yeah, I am the furthest thing
32:29
Speaker 1: from Vegas. I'm I'm a nash Vegas guy. I like
32:34
Speaker 1: I like Nashville. Yes, a draft you'll still have fun, though,
32:37
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you'll find some way something enjoyed. Thank you.
32:41
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32:46
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