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Lights Out, Tech On: Power, Production & CarPlay Changes | TechtalkRadio - EP478 · TechtalkRadio

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  Speaker 1: The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean to Ward, and I'm actually
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  Speaker 2: here for once.
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  Speaker 1: Well. It's funny because the last like three four weeks,
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  Speaker 1: we've kind of opened the show talking about weather and
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  Speaker 1: how you know, Sean, You're you're in an area that
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  Speaker 1: just seems to be getting like.
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  Speaker 2: The brenhammered y ginhammered. And I don't know what it
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  Speaker 2: is about tech Talk like this show just draws the
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  Speaker 2: storms to us. Uh, you know, from have it you
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  Speaker 2: can hear what you've heard. It's interesting if you go
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  Speaker 2: back and listen to the show over the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of years, whenever we record, it's always it's always at night,
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  Speaker 2: right right, and it's you've we've heard the storms, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the thunder. You guys have seen the lightning when my
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  Speaker 2: computer was in a different spot. And this year we've
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  Speaker 2: we've just had a string of bad luck with storms
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  Speaker 2: rolling through. And we were gonna record last night, ye
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  Speaker 2: but justin ended up having a family thing come up,
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  Speaker 2: and then I had no power due to a what
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  Speaker 2: do they call them? A microburst? Wow, I think that
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  Speaker 2: came through there was so.
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  Speaker 1: How bad was this microburst?
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  Speaker 2: So for those of you who don't know what a
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  Speaker 2: microburst is, it's just a very quick, sudden downburst of
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  Speaker 2: low pressure that just comes through just it's just usually
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  Speaker 2: has like seventy eighty mili hour winds, And there was
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  Speaker 2: no indication that the weather was going to be severe.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday we had some thunders of lightning and some light rain,
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  Speaker 2: but it was all of a sudden, just ungodly windy outside, like,
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  Speaker 2: oh God, something's happening outside. It's like so I poked
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  Speaker 2: my head out and it was like you would have
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  Speaker 2: thought a tornado had just rolled through, like small branches,
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  Speaker 2: some big branches down in the front yard, in the backyard.
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  Speaker 2: And then I came back downstairs and a couple minutes later,
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  Speaker 2: the power flickered and then went.
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  Speaker 1: Out completely out. No power completely.
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  Speaker 2: Out, completely out. There were all over the Greater South
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  Speaker 2: Bend and Greater area was without power. Kaitlin was just
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  Speaker 2: picking up the boys from daycare. They had no power there.
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  Speaker 2: She had to go through pretty much every stop light
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  Speaker 2: on the way home as a four way stop like
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  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Right, So, and then up into
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  Speaker 2: Michigan it was pretty bad. And what happened was just
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  Speaker 2: this wind came through and just took out a ton
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  Speaker 2: of branches. They just fell onto power lines all out,
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  Speaker 2: and so it just took out power for a big
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  Speaker 2: chunk of our area.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't Some of the power lines that went down caused
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  Speaker 1: fires as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so up in Michigan, there's some videos. If you
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  Speaker 2: fear you're looking, just google portage Michigan power lines and
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  Speaker 2: you'll come up with some videos of like one fell
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  Speaker 2: in a car, caught the car on fire. There's some
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's some really interesting videos of like the
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  Speaker 2: arcing lines, like catching he's on fire and other things
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  Speaker 2: like that. It's it's pretty wild. I mean, power lines
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  Speaker 2: are dangerous obviously, right, So I never approach of a
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  Speaker 2: down power line, for one. And you have to be
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  Speaker 2: careful because when it's when it's a power line, it
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  Speaker 2: kind of the arcs make it go all over the
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  Speaker 2: place and it can energize other things around, including metal
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  Speaker 2: objects and you know, things like that. So it's like
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  Speaker 2: it can be dangerous just to be within fifty sixty
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  Speaker 2: feet of it.
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  Speaker 1: So do they do me like here? So we have
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  Speaker 1: monsoon seasons that like last year was kind of a
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  Speaker 1: nonsoon and you know that'll be starting up more towards
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  Speaker 1: our summer. But they have to remind people because power
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  Speaker 1: lines do come down. There was one time where an
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  Speaker 1: entire busy street that they just started, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: one after another coming down. Do they do public service
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  Speaker 1: messages of what to do in case one of these
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  Speaker 1: power lines falls in your car.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I would have. I I had a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of extra training on that because when I
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  Speaker 2: ran satellite trucks and live trucks for news, we had
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  Speaker 2: to go through the hole, like don't put the mask
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  Speaker 2: up into power lines and you know, ten feet or
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  Speaker 2: more and all this stuff. So you know, if I
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  Speaker 2: have to rely on my memory a little bit here,
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  Speaker 2: but if your car gets hung up by a power line,
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  Speaker 2: you just don't touch anything, the doorframe, anything, because it
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  Speaker 2: could it could be charged. And if you can get
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  Speaker 2: out or the door is open, you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: just step out and take steps right because they whatever
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  Speaker 2: they call it, I don't remember, ring potential I think
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  Speaker 2: is what it's called, right, where the energy disperses in
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  Speaker 2: rings outwards, So you actually are supposed to hop and
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  Speaker 2: try and hop in like three or four foot so
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  Speaker 2: to get away from your car, but trying not to
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  Speaker 2: touch anything. And yeah, so it's just I have a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of extra training on that, just from when
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  Speaker 2: I worked in news, but it it could be scary because.
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  Speaker 1: We were all talking about it last night and of
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  Speaker 1: course you mentioned, you know, power was out, and Justin
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  Speaker 1: of course had to say, don't you wish you would
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  Speaker 1: have had a power wall, which I know that you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna trading from from Tesla, but you what did you
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  Speaker 1: have to be able to get you through the night
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  Speaker 1: because power wasn't restored into what three o'clock the next morning? Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So we have a I have a predator thirty
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  Speaker 2: five hundred watt inverting generator right that runs on It
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  Speaker 2: runs on just regular onuletting gas. And last last last fall,
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  Speaker 2: I had an electrician come in and put it outlet
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  Speaker 2: and give me a breaker into my main breaker box
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  Speaker 2: so that I can in turn feed the bus bar
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  Speaker 2: in my breaker box with the generator and then interconnects
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  Speaker 2: like I kill my main power right, energize the generator line,
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  Speaker 2: and then I can then key on things in my
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  Speaker 2: house to have provide AC power to the house.
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  Speaker 1: So you could still have your refrigerator, freezer. Yep, you
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  Speaker 1: could have.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we ran pretty much everything except the water pump
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  Speaker 2: because the water pump runs on two twenty. I don't
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  Speaker 2: have a two twenty volt generator. My generator only does
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  Speaker 2: one ten, right, so it won't run my water pump,
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  Speaker 2: but it runs. And it's not going to be strong
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  Speaker 2: enough to run my huge AC unit either, but it'll
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  Speaker 2: run pretty much everything else. I'm obviously not gonna run
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  Speaker 2: my computer and waste energy just doing nothing, but it'll
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  Speaker 2: run the furnace because the furnace is powered financial gas, right,
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  Speaker 2: It's just not an electric feater and furnace, So it'll
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  Speaker 2: run the blower so we can provide heat if we
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  Speaker 2: had a power outage in the wintertime, et cetera. I
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  Speaker 2: could run it and have heat. But I also have
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  Speaker 2: my DJI power bank, my DJI one thousand, which at
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  Speaker 2: midnight last night, I didn't want to let the generators
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  Speaker 2: run all night by itself, Like I turned everything off
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  Speaker 2: and just ran my frame and freezer off of that
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  Speaker 2: power wall or power wall. But the DJA power one thousand,
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  Speaker 2: and it only got down to like seventy five oh
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  Speaker 2: from when I plugged it at midnight until we woke
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  Speaker 2: up at six thirty am. So from the Yeah, well
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  Speaker 2: so this is something that I do now everybody else does. Right.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people when they lose power, they just
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  Speaker 2: don't do anything. They just go go, go to bed whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And when the power comes back on, everything just comes
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  Speaker 2: back up hard. Right. The power surges right back.
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  Speaker 1: To it right right.
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  Speaker 2: Ideally, what you're supposed to do is go and turn
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  Speaker 2: your mane off right so that when the power does
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  Speaker 2: get restored, it's not going to surge into your line
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  Speaker 2: and have an in rush of current that could damage
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  Speaker 2: like some of your like here's some of your stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Say say somebody has a computer sean, and they don't
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  Speaker 1: do that and they leave the computer plugged in. Should
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  Speaker 1: they unplug? Like if we ever go through sitchuation where
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  Speaker 1: everything's off and they don't have a ups or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: so they just don't plug their computer?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you could. I mean, your power supplies only
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  Speaker 2: to do so much to protect from rush current, right,
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  Speaker 2: it's it does. Electronics are brace sensitive. They don't like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of current at once. Things get hot, they
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  Speaker 2: blow up. So a lot of times what I do
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  Speaker 2: is if we lose power, I'll go kill my mane.
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  Speaker 2: I'll unplug a bunch of stuff, like from the wall,
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  Speaker 2: like the power strip that has my computer in it,
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  Speaker 2: I'll plug it. The power strips to my racks, I'll
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  Speaker 2: unplug them, and then I go and I go power
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  Speaker 2: the generator, and then I turn on load you know,
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  Speaker 2: single breaker by breaker. Okay, I need just the upstairs power.
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  Speaker 2: I just need the furnace. So I'm very selective on
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  Speaker 2: what I turn on. And then like last night, at midnight,
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  Speaker 2: I came in, I turned the generator off and then
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  Speaker 2: just left everything off, turned everything off. Yeah, So I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what time the power came back on. I
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  Speaker 2: just know that when I got out to use the
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  Speaker 2: bathroom at four o'clock this morning, our neighbors front lamp
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  Speaker 2: post light was on, so I knew we had power.
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  Speaker 1: Good indusay at that point.
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  Speaker 2: At that point, I went downstairs, turned the mate on,
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  Speaker 2: and then went breaker by breaker and just turned things
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  Speaker 2: back on until we were back to fully restored power
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  Speaker 2: in the house.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's not ideal to have your main just
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  Speaker 2: left on with all your breakers on, because that interest
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  Speaker 2: current could damage sensitive electronics, your TV, your computers, your phones,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. So it's just not ideal to do it
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  Speaker 2: that way. So I don't necessarily know if that's the
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  Speaker 2: right way to do it. That's the way that I've
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  Speaker 2: always learned how to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, you've talked about possibly the idea like justin
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  Speaker 1: going you know, with the panels and you know, going
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  Speaker 1: the solar route. If you would have done that and
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  Speaker 1: you would have had like power wall, you would really
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  Speaker 1: not have been affected by this, would you or do
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  Speaker 1: they do so?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. So, yeah, so I would have had
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  Speaker 2: to switch over to the power. I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: justice is tied in. I don't know how they're all
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  Speaker 2: tied in because a lot of times with with DC
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  Speaker 2: generated power, you have to have some sort of inverter
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  Speaker 2: to flip it back to AC so that you can
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  Speaker 2: either feed your your house bus or feedback to the grid.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure how if we bought a system,
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  Speaker 2: how it would be tied in. I need to do
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  Speaker 2: more research on that. Yeah, And I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: I've go with Tesla. To be honest, I think Tesla.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Testla. Yeah, I think the Tesla option
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  Speaker 2: is probably the most common potentially where it's like you
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  Speaker 2: buy it from Tesla, or you lease it from them,
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  Speaker 2: You buy the panels, somebody comes in installs it all.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a lot of diy ones you can get.
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  Speaker 2: Anchor has a big power wall you can buy, and
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  Speaker 2: we've looked into it, and we've been saving up money
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  Speaker 2: to specifically build a small solar array in the backyard
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  Speaker 2: with some bigger panels because I'm not gonna I'm not
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  Speaker 2: gonna roof mount them. I don't. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: get into this business where we're gonna mount a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of stuff to the roof and then in three or
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  Speaker 2: four years say, well, crap, we need to replace the roof.
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  Speaker 2: Now everything's gonna get unmounted, right, and then the roof
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  Speaker 2: comes on and then you remount it to a brand
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  Speaker 2: new roof. I'm not doing that. So we'll build a
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  Speaker 2: couple of panels in the backyard. Because our backyard is
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  Speaker 2: completely open and face south facing so directs on light
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  Speaker 2: you almost year round, except for really close up to
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  Speaker 2: the house. But we have a couple of premium spots
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  Speaker 2: for where we could put a couple of large panels.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the plan. You know.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to the generators, though, Sean I'm kind
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  Speaker 1: of wondering because I know a lot of consumers that here,
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  Speaker 1: people listening to this may have gone to Costco or
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  Speaker 1: they may go to you know, Curse Hour or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and they look at some of these options there are
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  Speaker 1: for buy. It could be confusing, Like I sure can
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  Speaker 1: I bought a little anchor, you know, and I thought, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this would be great in case I ever needed, you know,
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  Speaker 1: power the phones, the computer. And then one day I
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  Speaker 1: remember I wanted to use our power blower, our leaf
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  Speaker 1: blower out in the backyard, and I basically would come
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  Speaker 1: on and go right off, shut right off. Wasn't enough.
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  Speaker 1: So people don't know what now the Predator when you
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  Speaker 1: want or was that pretty expensive? Or is it Predator
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  Speaker 1: or Patriot?
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  Speaker 2: You have? So I have a Predator Predator, almost had
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  Speaker 2: Predator drone. It's a Predator Generator. It's it's sold by
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  Speaker 2: Harbor Freight, and it's considered to be a medium line.
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  Speaker 2: It's not it's not a Honda e e I you
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  Speaker 2: know the Honda line, or it's not a Generak. It's
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  Speaker 2: not the top of the line ones you're you're going
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  Speaker 2: to see a lot of home installations. But it was convenient.
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  Speaker 2: It will power the our camper, it will power the
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  Speaker 2: home now, but it's only one ten one ten meanings
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  Speaker 2: one ten voltage, right, So it's it's an AC DC generator.
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  Speaker 2: So it's generating DC power converting it. It's called an
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  Speaker 2: inverting generator, converts it to AC power. It also has
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  Speaker 2: DC outputs if you need it, but again we only
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  Speaker 2: typically used it for the camper. Yeah, so if you
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  Speaker 2: wanted it to power most other things in your home,
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  Speaker 2: like your AC, your furnace, your range, your those kinds
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  Speaker 2: of things, those high draw things, you would want to
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  Speaker 2: get a two twenty generating inverting generator. There's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more.
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  Speaker 1: Expensive, kind of like I've seen the Genera, ad GENERACS
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  Speaker 1: or Champion.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Costco has a couple of big, big brands
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  Speaker 2: in there. So likely what I'll do is I will
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  Speaker 2: likely get another additional generator for the house that will
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  Speaker 2: do two twenty. Specifically so we can run the water pump.
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  Speaker 2: Our water pump says it'll run on one fifteen. I
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  Speaker 2: tried to run it in that mode yesterday. It does
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  Speaker 2: not work. So I think it needs the two phase
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  Speaker 2: of one ten to make it work properly, I need
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  Speaker 2: to have an electrician to comment and tell me if
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  Speaker 2: I'm right or wrong, or if I did something different,
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  Speaker 2: if I did something wrong. But I tried to make
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  Speaker 2: it work yesterday and it didn't. But it powered everything
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  Speaker 2: else in the house, except we didn't. We didn't try
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  Speaker 2: the AC because I don't wantn't want to. We didn't
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  Speaker 2: need the AC. We can run fans and it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not in Arizona. Now, is there a way
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  Speaker 1: that people can find like, Okay, this one can run this, this,
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  Speaker 1: this and this. I mean like when doing research for this,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it is just basically jumping on the web
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  Speaker 1: and reading reviews. What's yeah, I mean you.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of have to just go based off of the
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  Speaker 2: frustrating part about being without power is you have to
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  Speaker 2: give up convenience. Right, You're you are not going to
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  Speaker 2: be in a scenario where you're gonna be able to
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  Speaker 2: do a hair dryer, the waffle iron, the microwave. You're
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  Speaker 2: still top the air fryer, right, those things don't even
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  Speaker 2: those high draw things that pull a thousand watts or
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  Speaker 2: more out the window just you can't even don't even
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  Speaker 2: plan on using anything that's going to do high draw. Right,
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  Speaker 2: the generator and this is just my this is my
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  Speaker 2: personal belief on this right an everybody else can be
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  Speaker 2: their own thing. If you want a whole house generator,
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  Speaker 2: go buy one. They're gonna be expensive. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: do five six thousand watts and be able to run
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  Speaker 2: your hair dryer, and you're whatever. Those are expensive. They
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  Speaker 2: also require year by buy yearly maintenance or or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: buy annually maintenance, so you have to do it twice
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  Speaker 2: a year, and you're just running a risk of that's
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  Speaker 2: you're paying more money. So I went through and kind
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  Speaker 2: of categorized, Okay, what do we need? And I know, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I've got thirty five hundred watts to work with. What
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  Speaker 2: can I pull? How many amps am I going to
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  Speaker 2: pull off? Of one? Ten? I think yesterday with everything on,
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  Speaker 2: with the TV, running our internet router, some fans, and
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  Speaker 2: some lights, I was maybe pulling like four amps total. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so that would be a thousand watts maybe wow. But
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  Speaker 2: you know I'm not running the air fryer quick, right, yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it goes, it goes quick, right because voltage
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  Speaker 2: times amps equals wattage, right, So if I'm running four
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  Speaker 2: amps at one hundred and ten volt says.
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  Speaker 1: Four.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever the math. I hate math. But so you
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  Speaker 2: have to calculate that stuff right, and it's just it's hard.
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  Speaker 2: People don't typically know. They just plug stuff in and works.
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  Speaker 2: So you can't just be the mentality of I go
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  Speaker 2: out and buy a Predator two thousand generator and it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna run my ac that's not that's not realistic. So
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  Speaker 2: you kind of have to do an audit on what
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  Speaker 2: you what you want. So I have breakers labeled in
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  Speaker 2: our breaker box that says generator. No generator got it.
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  Speaker 2: So we're on the generator. If you're on the generator,
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  Speaker 2: you can flip these ones up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So like I don't like, we don't care. I don't
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  Speaker 2: care about having stuff on in the basement. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: gonna run my computers. I'm not gonna do all that
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  Speaker 2: stuff that we don't power. So like most of the
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: basement states completely dark except some pump of the lights. Yeah,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: and like the furnace can come on because that doesn't
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: pull the blower motor doesn't pull a lot. But I
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: just did an audit, like, okay, if we run, if
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: we run all these breakers, i'm gonna pull five five amps.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: So it's just it's good, got it. You gotta be
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: you gotta be conservative about it, right. You can't just
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: go in expecting to have every convenience at your fingertips.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Went on a generator.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: So after a big storm like you you had, you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: obviously it got its use. Is there any prep that
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you have to do for the next storm?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Do?
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't obviously put a gas in it.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I mean keeping topped up on fresh gas. Right. Gas
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: does go bad? Ye, not in a not not in
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: a short amount of time, an couple of months, it'll
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: go bad. It'll varnish and start to not perform as well.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: But just running the generator every I usually try and
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: run it once a month for about hour to two hours.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Let it warm up, let it get to temperature, put
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: a load on it by running the AC and the
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: camper or you know, plunging the toaster into it and
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: letting it run for a minute, just to help burn
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: out some of the carbon the kunk and the carburetor
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: and some of the other stuff because it's not it's
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: not electrically fuel inject it's all carbureted. And then doing
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: oil changes, right, I do my own oil, my own
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: oil changes on it. I do it every I don't
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: know they say you're supposed to do it every twenty
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: hours or something. Other generator, I typically do it once
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: every season beginning of the season, end of the seasons,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: like camping season, right, I'll do it. I'll change the
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: oil before we go camping for Memorial Day weekend because
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I'll use the generator, and then I'll do it before
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I store it in case I need it over the wintertime.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: So just keeping up on general maintenance, keeping it clean,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: not letting it get too hot, not make you know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: not having it do a huge load where it's like
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: if you're running a ton of stuff and it bogs
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: down and it shuts itself off, that can damage it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: So and you know, and a lot of people don't
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: realize too. There are multiple fuel generators, so you can
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: buy trifuel generators which will run off of regular outleanded gas,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: natural gas or propane. So you can buy these trifuel generators.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: They have different draws on how much gas they use,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: how much propain they use. But if you have natural
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: gas at your house, typically that's an uninterrupted supply even
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: when you don't have power, so you could run a
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: natural gas generator pretty much unlimited. You'll still pay for
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: the gas you're using, but you potentially have an unlimited
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: supply of natural gas if you're doing it that way.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Propane doesn't really have a shelf life, so if you
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: have LP tanks that you've stored for a long time,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: they're still going to be good. That's kind of the
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: benefit of liquid propaine versus unleaded gas line. It has
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: a longer shelf life. But you know, the things to
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: be concerned about or be safe about, are storing the fuel,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: storing your LP tanks, just general safety. Right, it gets hot,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: its generator is generating heat, has an exhaust. I don't
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: let your kids touch it, don't point it at the
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: side of your house, let it melt your siding, like
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: turn it off, turn it off, and let it cool
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: down before you refill it with gas, because a lot
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: of times the gas pickets on the top and if
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: you spill it goes over the edge and could flame
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: up off off the exhaust or cause a fire, things
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: like that. So one of the things I do too
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: is whenever I run the generator, I have a fire
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: extinguisher and it goes right by the door. To the
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: outside where the generator is just in case, just in case,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: because if there's if it catches something on fire, or
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: we have a fire or an incident, I can just
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: quickly have it ready to go. But now this one,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: you're just taking it for some precautions.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I know, the anchor is portable, or the DJI is portable.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: The one you have is the Patriot. Is that one
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: a portable unit or is it? So?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: It's it's pretty big, right, it'll hold I think it
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: holds like four gallons of gas.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Oh man, it's a big.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: It's big. It's it weighs like one hundred pounds. It's
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: it's not something then I'm gonna tode around and you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I can toss it in the I can toss it
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: in the bed of my pickup truck and move it
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: and go camping with it. But I'm not I'm not
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: chucking it down the street to go to the beach
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: or something. Right, So, and it's and it's there, it's there.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's called whisper light. I think that's
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: a very Honda specific version. But it runs a lot
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: quieter then it's so it's got a muffler and it
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: was a lot quieter.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: The next question does it make a lot of noise, Because.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: It does make a lot of noise. It's it's not quiet,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: but it's not a open frame one like you see
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: on construction sites and stuff like that, So it's it's
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: probably half the volume of one of those. But when
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: it's underload, like if we're running it underload, it gets
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: pretty loud.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember a radio station I worked at in Tucson.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: They had it was the size of a sprinter van.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: That was a pretty thick. They had a generator. I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: want to say it might have been a hon uh.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they make them that big. All
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I know is when that thing kicked on it was diesel.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: It was the loudest thing. It was like a helicopter
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: taken off next to you, but it powered the entire
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: building everything.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When we when I worked at Fox and ran
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the SAT trucks and the MICROWAVEE trucks, they all had
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: their own on board inverting generators. So you just pop
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: out there it goes the genera running out of the generator.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: The only downside was it right off the same gas. Oh,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: so if if you had an improper dip for the generator.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: It could run your could run you dry right, So
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: thankfully the ones we had were not designed to do that,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: so you could only run to a quarter of a
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: take of gas off the generator, so that way you
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: had enough fuel to drive away.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering now, maybe you know, I don't know if
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: you know this because you've been out of that portion
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: of the TV broadcasting world for a while. In radio,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: we had a mobile boom box when I was in
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Palm Springs and it looked like a big boom box
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and it had you know, power radio on the side
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and the whole bit, and it had a mast and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the mask would go up and one time our guy
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: may he rest in piece he's no longer with us,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: not because of this. Bonte left it up and went
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: under a bridge and that was that was not good.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: But I'm wondering, now we broad the broadcast world, do
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: they even need those anymore? Because so much of us
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: to using the internet.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: You know, I actually just talked about so when I
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: went up to Faris to talk to the to the
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: senior class for the television program. Actually this was part
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: of my slide that I brought up was like, here's
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: what I worked on in twenty ten. Right, right, we
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: had a satellite truck. We had four microwave trucks. Bonded
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: cellular and cellular devices weren't a big thing yet. So
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: then in the emerging market of iPhones and smartphones and stuff,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: a lot more people were using more digital. And as
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the bandwidth got higher, and as we got three G
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: and four G and then now five G and six
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: G or whatever's coming next, these companies were able to
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: create what's called bonded cellular devices, meaning you have an
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: encoder that will take the video input, encode it and
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: then send those bits across six different cell phone modems.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Amazing, so and.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Multiple carriers even so to ATAT, to Verizon, to T Mobile,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: to Sprint whatever. So that goes all out and the
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: receiver on the other end receives it all and it
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: has information attached to those four error correction all that
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: stuff and puts it all back together and gives you
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: a final product. You know, the disadvantages the better the
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: quality of the higher the latency. So you could go
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: to a relatively low cell coverage carrier with six cell
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: phone motems and go live live if you will with
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: a seven to eight second delay but get a good
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: looking picture out because of how the bonded cellular modems
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: were working. So that essentially took out the live truck market, right.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Satellite trucks and live trucks. Microwave trucks were expensive, and
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: you're talking hundreds of dollars a lot hundreds of dollars
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: per live shot for whatever whatever amount of time you're using,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: and with how good the quality has gotten, there's no
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: need for those anymore.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it was, except except except for.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: High risk, high risk, high reward scenarios where you have
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: a no fail scenario. A lot of backups for major,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: major sporting events still go satellite. Typically they have a
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: one two redundancy whether it's okay, So your main your
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: main transmission path may be fiber, but your backup path
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: is satellite. So that way, if your primary IP fails,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: you just flip right over back to a redundant satellite path.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: So, speaking of that, an ab National Association broadcast NAP
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: took place. We're gonna take a quick break, we come back.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: We're going to cover some of the coolest news that
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: came out of that. Some news also from the World
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: of DJI and iOS car play some stuff on that.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: We'll be back with more of tech talk Radio. I'm
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Andy Taylor.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to wear find us on the web at
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: tech talk radio dot com. We'll be right back.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: And now fac to tech talk Radio.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: About two weeks ago now NAB came through and I
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: had to miss it.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember last year.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Last year, I did a lot I did last year
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: at Notre Day Day and Blue Gold talk about that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: After this. It was a long week last week, long week,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: but I had to miss ANAB, which is a bummer
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: because last year I did a segment with Andy where
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I walked the floor, which was really cool.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: That was awesome.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: It was also my first time at NAB, so I
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: was blown away. So an AB is a the largest
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: North American conference for broadcasting. It's the who's who broadcasting goes.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: You meet with vendors and all this stuff. So I just
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: wanted to kind of touch base on what I thought
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: was pretty cool what I saw out of the news
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: stuff that came out the big ones and sometimes they
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: get released spoiled before anyb which is a little bit
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: of a bummer.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: But for our listeners who don't know, National Eneby is
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: National Associational Broadcasters. This is technology that we're going to
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: see in broadcasting via radio, television, YouTube.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not just it's not just television and
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: radio anymore. It's content. It's I mean last year, so
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: just to segue a quick bit, last year, I met
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: the content like the lead content guy for Dude, perfect right. So,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I mean these are people that are doing content creation
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: at the largest scales for or the biggest platforms. So
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: not just television, it's the Internet, it's everything. So but
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: the cameras, we're talking about cameras first, like cameras that
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: actually turned heads like big time, the go pro mission.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that looks it's.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: It's an eight K, fifty megapixel, one inch censor. It's ridiculous.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: They're making a huge, huge play for the cinema, like
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: the like the low form factor cinema market. I mean,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: it's just gonna be cool. It's in cinema. It's just
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: gonna be cool. You're gonna get some cool stuff. I
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: just don't know.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Apple keeps, you know, kind of and we see this
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: a lot filmmakers saying I'm shooting my movie on an iPhone,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: you know, because the optics pretty much is everything good.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's what kind of GoPro wants to
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: get a piece of.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I think they just want to get into just better
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: looking stuff. I mean getting getting being being a platform
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: that cinema cinematographers can use to get those shots at
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: that cost level where if you put it into a
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: scenario where it's going to get destroyed, you don't care. Yeah,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: because you saw that a lot with the when you
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: went into DSLRs and mirrorless cameras when they first came out,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: a lot of cinematographers were putting those cameras into dangerous
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: positions because if they broke a eight thousand dollars you know,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: mirrorless camera, they weren't breaking a twenty eight thousand dollars
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: ari or you know whatever. So yeah, red or anything
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: like that too. So I think we'll see some really
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: great stuff coming out of GoPro. I just want to
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: know what it's time lasses look like, because that's what
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I want to see. There's a new Sony PXWZ three hundred,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: which is their broadcast camera, which turns some heads. Fujifilm
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: launched a large format cinema camera, So really yeah, wow.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: And then some other high speed and spatial cameras of
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: at Cannon. But Canon didn't really have anything that I
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: saw or didn't read about. I mean, they had some
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: some lenses, they talked about some new lenses and stuff
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: like that, but nothing in terms of cinema cameras. Black
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Magic has their Pixis camera that I think they announced it,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the sixteen K Pixis camera, which we'll talk about that
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Because black Magic has some lot of stuff,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of AI of Adobe with some AI stuff
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: into into Premiere and a couple other things, more AWS
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: data driven stuff. ABS is huge for broadcast cloud production.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Now AW is Amazon Web Services.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Amazon yeah, AMAS yeah yeah, and then cloud and
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: IP for broadcast. Right so twenty one ten is the
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: broadcast IP standard right now for broadcast. Were a twenty
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: one ten broadcast facility at NORDAIM and you're seeing more
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: and more compliance devices coming out, coming out, coming out.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: They're not all friendly, they don't all play the same
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the same way, they don't all shake hands nicely. So
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: it's just interesting to see what's coming out. Black Magic
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Design really pushed hard into the one hundred gig twenty
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: one ten market this year.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: What does that mean for them? Does that mean a
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: better maybe getting more? So?
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so one hundred gig right, so one hundred gig
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: ports will allow you to do four K, multiple four
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: K streams over one port. It's all over qsfps. Uh.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Just you just got to have something the does network.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so black Magic is really pushing into this hundred
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: gig market for twenty one ten.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Black Magic also made that big announcement for the and
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I have no if you've installed it yet. For iPhone users,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: you can actually install a black Magic camera control and
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: have the quality you get from Blackmagic devices on your smartphone.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: On your iPhone.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it allows you the black Magic iOS camera app.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I believe it's free even.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: To be free. Yeah, that's the other thing about it.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: But it allows you to unlock some of the more
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: professional features. Allows you to shooting raw lows, you shooting
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: proras from your iPhone, allows you to do some manual
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: iris control, manual aperture control. I said the same thing twice.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Gives you a little bit more freedom in terms of
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: doing camera work on your phone. So and that pairs
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: well with when you're running DaVinci Resolved twenty one, so
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I'm running twenty Yeah, so twenty one is the new one.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Some more real time collaboration, faster ingest and processing, and
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: some AI assistant editing tools. So the line between photo,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: video and editing pipelines is slowly disappearing. It's all becomes
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: one platform, right, yeah, so does in Resolve you can
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: now do a bunch more than just video editing.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: So the AI interfacing, I think is something that a
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: lot of creators look for. And you know, I know
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: we may have people that are listening to think, well,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: how do I edit my video and all that, and
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: you know it's easy to say cap cut, you know,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: just get an account cap cut. It's a good way
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: to do it. I used to love it on the
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: iPhone when I could cut with you know, iMovie. I
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: create videos and boom, have them up in seconds. And
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I haven't used it for that, and I don't know
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: how powerful that is. But now people that have a
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: PC or whatnot, they can they can use the da Vinci.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: There's a free version of da Vinci that they can
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: get and they'll find that that's a great stepping stone
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: if they move to other editing platforms like Adobe Premiere
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: or whatnot. You know, some people are happy with Da Vinci.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Premiere's doing some new stuff too. And I the other
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: day I needed I needed something. I'm like, I can't
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: go out shoot this, you know. With the account that
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I have, I was able to grab stock you know, okay,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: grab this and integrate it into the video. But I've
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: heard that Da Vinci is doing the same thing now.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so black Magic has really pushed Da Vinci. It's
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: probably the top color grading platform out there right now.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: So pick take your flavor of how you want to edit,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: but you're going to color grade in Da Vinci. So
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: black Magic's are doing really good things. They kind of
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: have a not a great reputation on the brocast side
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: for some of their hardware, but they're getting up there.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: They're getting better and and they're cheap, which is not
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: always good. Cheap and good don't always go are not
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: always synonymous.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: So we'll be at the the ATM, the Aten Mini,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so some of the more expensive hardware options are
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: really good. We have an a tem switcher at work.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I have the Attemp Mini here. We rely I rely
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: on black Magic year every day at work, right so,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: and so does the majority of the broadcast world because
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: it just it it works, especially their base band stuff.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's some good stuff that uh. And
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: these announcements that NAB made a lot of people pretty happy.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I know that there's some new mixer boards for radio.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: There's content creators, and that's what surprised me because I
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: always thought of ANAB and I've been once, but I've
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: always thought at a NEB it was all just hardware
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: for TV and radio.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Well that's what it was for the longest time.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, content creators that are benefiting.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Now because that's it was. It was for TV, radio,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: and film, okay, and now it's for content. Doesn't matter
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: what platform you're on because in the world of way
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: content is now, if you're in radio, you're probably also
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: creating content for social media. If you're in TV, you're
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: creating content for the web, you're creating content for radio. Right.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: It's like if you're on social media or if you're
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: doing content creation online, you're probably just doing all sorts
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: of content. Right. So it's like it's crazy.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like, do you think we're going to see
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: with all the regulation now because let's face a lot
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: of TV stations will use a drone, and they may
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: have the older drones that are being used, you know,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: whether it be that that big, gigantic DJI drone that
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: that is available, or you know, they use one of
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the smaller ones or the older evada. Is there are
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: we going to see a US manufacturer, somebody in the
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: US that's actually making a drone for professional use or
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: is it just gonna be just too much money.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: It's too much. It's gonna be too much money. It's
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: you can't compete with the Chinese electronics market.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Especially I'll go back to you twenty fourteen when GoPro
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: and three D Robotics should have partnered together and they
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: could have released a solid drone, but GoPro tried to
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: do their own thing and had a ton of internal
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: battery vailers because they tried to do it all on
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: their own with their own and then dj I just
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: swept up the pieces. And it's been Dji or nobody
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: really for.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Over a decade, and now dj I'm still making stuff.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Not to think you know, they're going away or it's
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: just like anti gravity, they're still making stuff.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: But it's it's just the security posture right now. Right,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: It's just it's just where does that data go. It's
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: all GPS tracking, right, it's all the content you're shooting,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: that's some of it goes to the cloud. So of
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: course people are worried that if you're shooting it, your
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: GPS data is going to China, your videos are going
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: to China, your photos are going to China. Yeah, yeah,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: that's what That's what the concern is, right, and then
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: what is China doing with that data and all this stuff?
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: So it's pretty amazing though when you see the quality
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: that you get with go pro mission. I've seen some
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: of the stuff and it's like, wow, that's pretty good.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really with the one inch sensor and the
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: fifty megapixel, right, I need to look do a little
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: bit more research on what the photo megapixel size is.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I want to see what the low light stuff looks
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: like the because I would love to do some long
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: nighttime exposure, some northern light stuff, some of the stuff
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I've been doing with the GoPros I have now, which
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: are the Hero four right.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: So surprises me though, is Sean and I don't know
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: how I knew we would see this effect on the
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: drone market, like people who wanted to get in drones.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: But you know, I have found like somebody had posted
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: a video and I got to say it was breathtaking
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: where they put on a pair of roller skates and
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: they rolled through a restaurant and they were carrying like
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the you know device that's basically got a kimbal It's
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: steady like the Osmo, right, and they would you know,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: swish it by and it just got some great footage.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: But even that is affected. It's not a drone. But
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: even you can't even get the Osmo pocket for it's
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: shipping but not in the US, and they have some
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: great features on that.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's just the way the administration is
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: trying to handle technology coming into the US and it's
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: coming from China, and it's the whole security posture. Right,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: it's like China bad.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna take another quick break. Come back.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: We talk about the iPhone iOS update what that could
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: mean if you've been wanting to get car play in
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: your car with more of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I'm sean to word. Find us on Facebook at tech Talkers.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Will we were about now.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Back to tech Talk Radio. Last week, we talked about
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: some you know, some of the things about the changes
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: at Apple, and of course, you know, Tim Cook could
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: be stepping down. But in the meantime, we're hearing about
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: new features for iOS twenty six point four. If you
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: have an iPhone, there's gonna be something to update some
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: new things. One of the things that people have found
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: to be pretty cool is car Play. I don't have
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: CarPlay in my car. My car is a twenty eleven,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: so it didn't have that available to it. You have
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: car Play and that that came with the car, right.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I have a twenty seventeen Chevy Colorado which
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: had Android Auto and car Play built in. So just
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: plug and play. Right, here's your phone, and it works
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: great with all most of the apps that you have,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: ice stream music with Pandora, I use Google Maps, ways.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: All available with a touch panel that's on your dashboard.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and my you know twenty seventeen. The dashboard's not
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: completely all touchscreen. It's just mostly touchscreen. I use CarPlay
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: every single day, and it's not wireless. It's wired. So
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I I have a USB port that I plug my
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: phone into and it allows me to make phone calls.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I see conceived text messages, that kind of thing. It's
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: been great. I think the only bummer. My only frustration
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: with CarPlay is that you have to have Syria enabled
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: to make it work, right, because it uses voice commands
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: to when it's plugged in, it disables. You can't search
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: your contacts, you can't like it makes you do it
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: by voice creat only, and you have to have Syria table,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: which is dumb because I hate having Syria enabled on
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: my phone. I don't want to talk to my phone.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: I want to talk to people on my phone. But
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Andy brought this up earlier and I mentioned, oh, did
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: you know that because I have a GM product. GM
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: is going to eventually stop offering Apple car Play and
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Android Auto on all of its gas powered cars.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: So why would so somebody shopping for a car wants
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: to have all these features. They're not going to be
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: able to get that feature.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: They're not gonna be able to get car Play wow,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: or it's going to be an extra, or it's going
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: to be whatever GM comes up with. Right, It just
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: says that GM announced details about a new centralized computing
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: platform developed in house. This new electrical architecture will debut
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: on the twenty twenty eight Cadillac Escalade IQ and it
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: will eventually be used in all moderns models under GM's
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: vast portfolio.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: So GM would offer an app, I would assume that
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: if you wanted special features that are part of GM,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: you'd have to get the app, and then you would
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: then whatever access.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Or I imagine it's going to be some sort of
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: OnStar our subscription that you're gonna have to pay to
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: be part of. You know, if you want to stream music,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: you gotta do pay this much money. If I wanna,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: you know, stream or if you want to have your
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: contact and be big phone calls, you got or it's
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: gonna be its own entertainment system, but it's going to
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: take away the look and feel of Gable car Play
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: to use use Apple car Play now, well you have
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: your you have your Android now. But I love Apple
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: car Play. It's been great. I can't use it every
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: single day. It's it's convenient, it works. H I think
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Another little weird thing is like when I'm just have
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: my radio on just the in the truck entertainment system,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I can see the temperature and the time.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: That makes it good.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when I'm in car play, I can see the
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: time and how much cell phone signal I have, but
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: not the time. So and even within the apps you
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: can't see it won't show you, like if the weather
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: apps up on your screen, it won't show you like
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: the temperature. Yeah, so it's like, oh, I want to
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: see what the temperature is. Well, it took over my
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: dash so now I can't see the temperature.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: It's just one of those weird, little little little quirks.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: But I mean I stream music off Pandora or Spotify.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: If I'm taking a break and I want to watch Netflix,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I can just play it on my phone and the
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: audio will come through the car.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: You know. The one thing that scares I will say
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: it scares me because you know, we like to have choice,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: and you know that's one of the things we get
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: a MFM. You had to choice for a MFM. Then
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: CDs came along. Well, okay, you had a track and
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: like I said, I think so there's even some model
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: cars way back when that you actually had a record
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: player in the car, which not good for summers in Arizona,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: but yeah, they little record player. It would come out.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: You could play a record on it. HW that worked.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: But you know, we had the choices, and then of
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: course MP three audio came out. That was that was
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: pretty good. And now you know my phone. My car
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: has Bluetooth so and it has a navigation system. However,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the navigation system has not been updated since well twenty eleven.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I bought it in twenty eighteen. It was used vehicle.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: If I want to have updated maps, I have to
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: pay for that. And that's I think what we're going
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: to see is more subscription base. You want to update
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the map, you want to update this, you want to
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: update that, Here's what it's going to cost you. But
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: there's been talk about them removing AM radio out of
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: some cars, because I.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Think that, yeah, I don't think that's actually going to happen.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I think some of it. I think Tesla did, yeah,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: but I think they have because it interfered with certain
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: parts of the actual computing process of the car, right, right,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: but coaching up back on your maps portion, right. I
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: still run a garment Nevie.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Oh there you go. Yeah.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: When I travel, when I travel long distances, I rely
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: on Google Maps for all the inner city stuff. But
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I got a garment movie when I graduated from college
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight. It spot it for me
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: as a graduation like a college like college graduation gift.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: About four years ago, I bought the in Perpetuity Map Update.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know they did that. That's great.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: So you can buy a lifetime map upgrade for your
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: garment devices. I don't know if it's on all the models,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: but it was on mine, and I can take the
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: SD card out and get current maps, like I could
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: go get it right now and come in and download
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: the upmost up to date versus of maps and go
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: and plug it back in and have up to date,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: which is great. And so I prefer relying on that
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: when I travel with the camper because a lot of
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: times where we go camping, you don't always have good
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: cell phone service. So I would prefer to have the
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: the address plugged in before we leave so that even
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: if we do lose cell phone service, I'm not trying
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: to hunt for the address or hunt for a map
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: while we're driving while we're in low cell phone coverage
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: and it's not going to find something or so the
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: but the GPS just gets GPS lock.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Well, since you have a g I'm kind of wondering
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: if you had a choice between Google maps or ways,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: which is actually Google they are owned by Google now
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: or Apple Maps, so you have an iPhone which.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Apple Maps is garbage. That's just there's no there's no
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: shying around that question. It's been bad since it came out,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: and it's not been good. And I think at one
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: point they even just said, you know what, we're just
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: gonna use Google information anyways.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the Armon's always been good for that respect.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Armon's always been fantastic. Yeah. Like I said, I have
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: a garment neuvie. It's still trugging along and it's been great.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Cartment cameras and I thought those were great.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the garment, the garment and you know, Garman made
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: an action camera at one point.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Right, No, I did no idea.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: The garment verb oh the verbal boy. Oh they made
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: an action cam. It was not that great and it
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: didn't last very long.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Well, there you go. All right, we'll tell you what.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: We're gonna take another break. H We actually have a
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: listener question, so we're going to share that with you.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: And this could be very helpful if you're archiving, so
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: we'll do that when we come back. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Sean to weird send us an x at tech talk
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: radio or Verbreck and now.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Back to tech talk radio. So this past weekend it
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: was kind of fun. U a somebody that I had
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: been connected to on Facebook for a long time, no
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: that I do video, and they hired me to do
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: a secret video for somebody that has something coming up
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: a birthday big seven to zero. So We're doing interviews
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: with people in his life and I'm getting some on
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Riverside FM. We're doing that for the ones that can't
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: be there. But actually went and shot, you know, two
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: cameras set up that whole bit and it was a blast.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: And one of them said, I have photos, you know,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: I what can I do? You know with these? Can
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: you put these in? I said sure? So I took
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: the photos and I scanned them. I don't have the
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: six to eighty like you have. I had to send
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: that back to EPSOM, but I'm gonna buy one eventually.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: So I have the flatbed EPSOM scanner. I had put
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: it on there. I had to scan it. I did
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: it in the photoshop, waited and did that whole bit.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: The thing is, as I got the photos and the
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: photo quality it was from this like eighties nineties they
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: were pretty pretty well. I thought, you know what, let's
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: go ahead and just let's go ahead and Gemini them.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: So I went ahead and went through and I have
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: the originals and then I at six hundred DEPI and
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: then I went ahead and popped him into Gemini and
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: had it. And it did such a great job. The
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Gemini that we saw from a year ago versus what
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: we get now. It doesn't overdo it, it doesn't give
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: it that uncanny.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Isn't it wild? How how far it's common a year?
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: In one we're like, oh, here's ai slop. Yeah, and
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: then like Christmas came around, like oh, actually these Christmas
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: pursons weren't that bad this year?
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So now what's this year of going to look like?
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: So it's pretty cool. But we got this question in
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: from from actually Sean in Tucson, not you, Sean different.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Sean says, I just recently found your show and caught
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: one of the episodes where you were talking about scanning,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: digitizing video and film. You have more experience with the
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: film stuff. My question is what about cassettes. I have
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: a big old box of them, but no cassette player.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Uh should I send them somewhere, or can you recommend
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: a process legacy box. Legacy Box doesn't yep, yeah.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: That's I would, that's I mean, that's just gonna be
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: the easiest, even if you go yep, yeah, all right.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I just looked it up. They do tapes, DVDs, cassettes,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: all the digital, so I actually did. I actually captured
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: probably about thirty or forty cassette tapes. Also. Oh wow,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: in this process, mostly music cassettes.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: How was a quality when you it was good?
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: So I used to Morant's multi channel cassette deck and
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I came out phono into my computer and just recorded
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: it into audacity.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Oh very cool.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, play pre record record right, and just let it
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: play and listen, listen to it. And but I had
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: also captured, right, because I also had some like here
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: was my in law's wedding captured the audio captured from
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: my in law's wedding on cassette cassettes. My grandfather had
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: recorded cassettes that I had recorded off the radio because
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I wanted to play specific meat, you know, because that's
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: what we did as kids. Right. You called the radio station,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Hey can you play this song? Play record?
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, the thing is when you want to
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: do it on your own, like you're talking the morants
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: and doing that, it is great. The problem is it's
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: real time. Yep, it's where scanning like with the six' eighty.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: It's super fast. Even film transfers now can be made
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: faster than having to watch the film. Video cassettes are not.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: That's real time, but cassettes are also going to be
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: real time. I will say there is one I looked
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: at Sean. It's called KLIM and it's a portable cassette
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: deck kl I am if you want to look this
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: one up. But it has an SD card in it.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: So when you go to hit play on the cassette
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: and you hit record on the SD card, basically you
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: hit a button there it will record. It will record
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  Speaker 1: that right onto the SD card. So if you have
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  Speaker 1: an SD reader you know, or you can buy one.
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  Speaker 1: I think it actually comes with a USB stick. You
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: could pop that SD card into it and then you
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  Speaker 1: could transfer it to your computer.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's relatively inexpensive, right, it's only forty bucks.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at forty dollars in The qualities pretty good on them,
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  Speaker 1: and it all depends on the quality of the cassette.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: But if you're going to use an old cassette player
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: for Sean and Tucson, the thing is remember that, you know,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: those heads get worn over time and it may not
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: give you the best audio. And that's what Legacy could do,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: or device like this from kale i Am.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Legacy will probably clean it. I mean, Legacy is
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: not inexpensive, right, But if it's serious audio that you
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: want to preserve at the highest fidelity, pay the money
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: to do it. If it's something you just want to
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: capture just because it's fun for you, it's something you
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: recorded two decades ago, three decades ago, whatever. This kale
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: i Am thing looks pretty awesome for forty bucks.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's it for this week's Tech Talk Radio.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Hopefully Justin will be back with us next week the
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: main time. I hope you have a great week. If
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: you've got a question for Sean or myself, they can
• 55:04
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• 55:07
  Speaker 1: dot com. Any big plans for the week, just other
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: than avoiding.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Storms trying to I just had such a long week
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: at work.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: I just want to relax, all right, now you can
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: go all right, I'm Andy Taylor, i'm Seandword have a
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: great week.